Fresh grad, if im not mistaken the minimum requirement now is master, wether engineering or geoscience. At least thats what my current company is doing.
For you guys that still doing spm or matriculation, think carefully when you want to choose your majoring. There is a big shortage in Oil and Gas, especially in geoscience (geologist, geophysicist). Many people opt for engineering because they think its the most highly paid job around. Believe me man, that is not always the case. My friends earn like 12-13k a month, and they are geology graduate, mid 20s. I myself is a geologist, not as high as them though but enuff to feed me and my family.

That apply to Oil and Gas Co only. For other service company (schlum, halli, weather, baker, ILO etc), I dont think so.

No man, my friends one of them with services company, and the other one is oil company. Both of them doing office work. The reason their salary is high is because they jump company.
Yes, most company (esp oil company) required master for fresh grad. I myself is not a master graduate, luckily it was not required during that time. I think petronas they dont require master for freshies.

Well, schlumberger always pay better, but the job is abit tough/demanding also. Years ago before the oil and gas booming, they have this notorious habit to sack people. Not anymore nowadays.
A friend of mine keep asking me to join them, but Im not that keen.

No, you are absolutely wrong.
Geophysics has two main discipline (atleast ONG), one is processing geophysicist and one is what we called.... geophysicist, or seismic interpretor. Processing geophysicist is a guy who process seismic data to create a readable data so the geophysicist can interprete those data. The PG dont need you to have a proper geophysics degree (but it will help you alot). You need to have a good computer skills and some basic knowledge on geology. For SI you need to have one of GNG related degree. That's why its pay more and demand is high.
Again, for those people who are looking into ONG industry, dont just aimed for the big guns (slb, hally, exxon, shell etc). There is a lot other small company which can give you proper training to equip you later in the future. Heck, you can even work as a mudlogger first, after afew years become a wellsite geologist.

If you choose, petronas, once you are in, its very hard (or impossible) to get out. Petronas have this rules among O&G and service company in Malaysia, that they cannot hire any petronas staff. In fact starting last year if I'm not mistaken, they even have an agreement with aramco that they cannot hire anymore petronas staff. Thats why I never send my cv to them (at least not yet).
But its not all bad, it is still an O&G company with many operation outside malaysia. And you can always jump ship to other company abroad (excluding aramco of course).

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Added on July 30, 2008, 8:32 amHow soon? Sabah still got plenty of deep water area to explore. Sarawak and peninsular still got many small oil field that havent been develop.
Maybe exploration wise its not as many as before, but field production and management we still have plenty. We also have others alternative fuel though, like coal bed methane.

This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Jul 30 2008, 08:32 AM

Ha ha... CGG veritas. I've been there about a year or so, than cannot tahan. Keep doing the same thing over and over again. Jump ship after that.
I think slb is better in terms of work variety i think. Because they have so many branch you can always try and ask to be transferred if you are getting bored.

Why do you want to join shell so badly? Do you lived in Miri?
My advise is, try other oil and gas company, plenty of them.

This is a company who specialized doing seismic attribute work, like volume inversion and stuff. I thing they are quite good. It is pretty similar like Jason or Hampson-Russel. If I were you, i'll take it since it will give you an opportunity to get familiar with O&G environment. Besides it will look good on your CV.

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Added on November 13, 2008, 8:10 amA lot. Look for CGGVeritas or Western-Geco, or PGS (im not so sure whether they have oofice in Malaysia).
Even if you are lucky you can apply for any oil company as a geophysicist.

This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Nov 13 2008, 08:10 AM

Another good way to find out list of O&G and service company is by going to any O&G related event/seminar/conference. Usually they have books with list of companies together with the contact person.
PGCE is coming soon, 2-3rd march at KLCC. Its a really important event for lots of company. try to go there.

Yes, but if you are students and member of GSM, it is alot cheaper.

6 to 9k? Don't you think its rather small?

Well, Im not a project engineer so I cant say how much. But if you are an engineer in O&G sector and you've been offered that kind of salary as an expart which is basically almost similar to a fresh graduate geologist with master in australia, than I think its rather small.

And what makes you think the 6-9k is clean cut money as you mentioned? I always see offers that give you the gross package, unless it stated otherwise or you yourself demand it to be net during negotiation.
And i dont think its right to say that office job pay is way less than offshore job. Alot off this desk job pays well too. Its the amount of responsibility and task that define the pay package, not just the work environment alone.



So Do I. And for a company who looks for project engineer from other country, Im pretty sure they are looking for someone with decent experience, not a fresh-grade that they need to teach.
Again, I wouldnt really know as Im not a project engineer. It just I happen that I knew some of them during some projects that i involved with.


This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Mar 15 2009, 07:55 PM

Lets just say that i have a decent 'personal experience'.
Anyway, offshore, onshore, site, office, doesnt matter. All are trying to earn decent living.

That exactly what im trying to say. Simply put, why managers get high pay? Because they have to make decision. And who do you think making all these decisions about where to drill, what kind of completion to use, how many wells to optimize production, what kind of production forecast the company should aware after certain period of time? The deskjob people, G&Gs, REs, PTech, petrophysicist.
I have work with service industry, operator and consultation. So I can safely say that these people behind desk do earn alot.
I never say offshore job earn shit. All I want to do is explaining/correcting IDK perception that working behind desk in O&G earn nothing compared to people who work in offshore. Somehow he kind of offended when i said people doing desk job can earn comparable with people in offshore. Im pretty sure IDK is experience enough to talk about offshore part, but I dont think he knows the whole thing about upstream.
And IDK, if you really believe that these desk-sitters earn shit, well, I cant say anything. Hope you are matured enough to listen to other people experience and not limiting your view only to the offshore side of the industry.
As for me, I'll settle with my 'shitty money' desk job as you describe.....

This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Mar 16 2009, 08:55 AM

You mean this comment is not meant to say my deskjob got shitty pay?


Mate, I think you did not really understand what im trying to say. I only using the manager argument as a reference to make a discussion more understandable (looks like it didnt work). The main point is people who make decision, such as RE, G&G and other desk sitters also is sought after and quite rare, thus making them high earners in this industry, not just operation people in offshore.
Again, I never argue people working offshore earns alot, I really agree with it, but I couldnt really understand why it is hard for you to atleast accept that SOME deskjob do earn more than SOME offshore workers, just like been mentioned by other forumers here. Just because you never saw it doesnt mean its not possible. Like I said, dont limit your view on just the area you are familiar with. O&G is pretty vast for you to understand everything.

You know what, I think I'll just make my own conclusion here so we can end this pointless discussion. Offshore people do earns alot (never doubt that), but SOME desk sitters can earn similar if not higher than SOME offshore workers.

And the RM6-9k for experience project engineer is still considered too low for me (this what we discussing about right?)

Spot on mate, its all depends on your experience.
I just having this thought that for an australian company who is looking for project engineer from other country, it must have to be someone that have enough experience (7 years or more).

Jeez, enuff already. Grow up and move on....
You really showed me how narrow minded a person can be. Its pretty pointless to say anything more.

Indeed its true. Lot of company now halting taking new employees, especially those expatriate. Im not sure about fresh grade though. But the company that I previous worked with is not continuing most of these expat contract.
Regarding results vs experience. Its true that with high cgpa it give you bigger chances to be hired. But as for myself I always believe that experience is as important as your cgpa. Recently we interviewed few candidates with superlative results, 10As, best students, dean list for 5-6 semesters running, etc, but when we ask a basic question, most of them couldnt answer it. It shows that they can memorized, but they dont really understand it.