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post Feb 9 2011, 08:49 PM, updated 15y ago

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~The Home Of Liverpool Supporters~


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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Tom Werner

Manager/Caretaker :
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Kenny Dalglish
Assistant Manager:
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Sammy Lee

Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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Jamie Carragher

League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
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Walk on, walk on with hope in your heart
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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
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Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad 2010/2011


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Top Scorers For

BPL:
Steven Gerrard 2
David N'Gog 1
Fernando Torres 1

Europa League:

David N'Gog 5
Joe Cole 1
Lucas Leiva 1
Steven Gerrard 1
Ryan Babel 1
Dirk Kuyt 1

Carling Cup :

David N'Gog 1
Milan Jovanovic 1

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Liverpool FC 2010/2011 Fixtures


July 2010

17 Jul 2010 Friendly Al-Hilal A 18:00 [canceled due to flooded pitch]
21 Jul 2010 Friendly G'hopper A 18:30 [0-0]
24 Jul 2010 Friendly K'slautern A 15:15 [0-2]


August 2010
1 Aug 2010 Friendly Borussia M A 13:30 [1-0]
15 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Arsenal H [1-1] -David N'Gog
23 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Man City A 20:00 [3-0]
28 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League WBA H 15:00 [1-0] -Fernando Torres


September 2010
12 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Birmingham A 16:00 [0-0]
19 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Man United A 13:30 [3-2] -Steven Gerrard x2
25 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Sunderland H 15:00

October 2010
2 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool H 15:00
17 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Everton A 13:30
23 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackburn H 15:00
31 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 13:30

November 2010
7 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Chelsea H 16:00
10 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Wigan A 19:45
13 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Stoke City A 17:30
20 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League West Ham H 17:30
28 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Tottenham A 16:00

December 2010
4 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Villa H 15:00
11 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League N'castle A 15:00
18 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Fulham H 15:00
26 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool A 15:00
28 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Wolves H 15:00

January 2011
1 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Bolton H 15:00
5 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Blackburn A 20:00
15 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Everton H 15:00
22 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 15:00

February 2011
2 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 20:00
5 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Chelsea A 15:00
12 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Wigan H 15:00
26 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League West Ham A 15:00

March 2011
5 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Man United H 15:00
19 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Sunderland A 15:00

April 2011
2 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League WBA A 15:00
10 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Man City H 15:00
16 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Arsenal A 15:00
23 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Birmingham H 15:00
30 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League N'castle H 15:00

May 2011
7 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Fulham A 15:00
15 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 15:00
22 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Villa A 16:00
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The Quotes


Roy Hodgson



Journalists suggested to Hodgson that he had arrived at the club ahead of a pivotal season. Again the tactician was philosophical.

"Every day I drive into the training ground I see the year 1892," he said. "In two years' time the club will be 120 years old. I won't get involved in discussions about pivotal seasons. I realise you people have got to do that because every day's pivotal in your promotion of the news.

"If you don't mind, I'll take the 120-year view. There'll be plenty more games to be played and titles to be won."


Reporters quizzed Hodgson on whether he was envious of the financial clout available to City boss Mancini.

But the boss replied: "I'm never jealous. I am in a position I want to be in.

"I am working for a club I have always wanted to work for, and I think it is for other people to be jealous of me - not for me to be jealous of other people.

"It would be very, very sad if someone as fortunate as I have been in my career starts getting jealous of other people."

Rafa Benitez
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Sammy Lee
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Steven Gerrard
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Xabi Alonso

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Reina


from Martin O'Neill after 0-1 defeat against Reds

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"Their keeper made a great save in each half, particularly the one from Stewart Downing - it was a great, great save. And then there was the one from Gabby later on. We had two go inches past the post too.


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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

Jonno was speaking to Joe Curran

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Match Highlights


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Summer Transfer In and Out



IN:

- Player In - Team
- Brad Jones - Middlesbrough
- Christian Poulsen - Juventus
- Fabio Aurelio - Unattached
- Danny Wilson - Rangers
-Joe Cole - Unattached
-Jonjo Shelvey - Charlton Athletic
-Milan Jovanovic - Standard Liege

OUT:


- Player Out - Team
- Alberto Aquilani - Juventus
- Phillip Degen - VfB Stuttgart
-Alberto Riera - Olympiakos
- Yossi Benayoun - Chelsea
- Mikel San Jose - Athletic Bilbao
-Robbie Threlfall - Bradford City
-David Martin -MK Dons

New season, bring it on !!!

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post Feb 9 2011, 08:55 PM

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New Thread yeah! I'm a KOP Liverpool through and through
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You might wanna edit some details on the first page solstice...Torres is not the current Liverpool No.9 nod.gif
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posting in 1st page, bring it on wigan!
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I'm beginning to realise that there is a need to remind people how to use "The Kop" correctly.

"The Kop" is a stand at Anfield that houses our most ardent fans. "Kopites" is a term generally used for Liverpool fans. If you were to therefore say something like, "I am Kops", it is akin to saying, "I am Penangs", instead of "I am a Penangnite".
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Feb 9 2011, 09:07 PM)
You might wanna edit some details on the first page solstice...Torres is not the current Liverpool No.9 nod.gif
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Updated. Forgotten it since the transfer did after the last thread was opened. Thanks for reminding.


Anyway, for the rest of the first page will be updated in the next thread. CNY and other stuffs just drained too much of my time... tongue.gif
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new house..new manager..new spirit...new player...the real liverpool are back!!! rclxm9.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 9 2011, 09:40 PM)
new house..new manager..new spirit...new player...the real liverpool are back!!! rclxm9.gif  laugh.gif
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Yeah baby.. When is Liverpool vs Wigan and what time? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eugene_tan6 @ Feb 9 2011, 09:47 PM)
Yeah baby.. When is Liverpool vs Wigan and what time?  hmm.gif
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its on saturday bro...11p.m if not mistaken
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am i posting on d 1st page?


hell yeah. haha.

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I know KD is flexible but this is an interesting article....

Jonathan Wilson is one of the best columnist on tactics...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/...ilson-liverpool


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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 9 2011, 09:50 PM)
its on saturday bro...11p.m if not mistaken
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ah, non-stop football action for me then. Manchester derby follow by Liverpool-Wigan. I'm still learning to understand KD's method of pass and move though.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 9 2011, 11:03 PM)
ah, non-stop football action for me then. Manchester derby follow by Liverpool-Wigan. I'm still learning to understand KD's method of pass and move though.
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pass the ball and immediately make yourself available to receive the next pass?
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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 11:16 PM)
pass the ball and immediately make yourself available to receive the next pass?
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really? so far i still haven't quite catch up. maybe i will concentrate more during this weekend match.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 9 2011, 11:19 PM)
really? so far i still haven't quite catch up. maybe i will concentrate more during this weekend match.
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oh, that was just a classic quote from the golden days of Liverpool in the 70's 80s. It simply described the passing game Liverpool is famous for. To remind every players to pass the ball properly to a mate (as opposed to a hoof or speculative long ball) and then immediately run to a position ready to receive the next pass (very much like the way Xavi and Iniesta is doing it now eh?). that is why Liverpool was often regarded at the most `continental' team in Britain. One forummer even have a signature where a football personnel said that its easy to know which is Liverpool during the days of black & white tv. They are usually the team with the ball.



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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 11:28 PM)
oh, that was just a classic quote from the golden days of Liverpool in the 70's 80s.  It simply described the passing game Liverpool is famous for.  To remind every players to pass the ball properly to a mate (as opposed to a hoof or speculative long ball) and then immediately run to a position ready to receive the next pass (very much like the way Xavi and Iniesta is doing it now eh?).  that is why Liverpool was often regarded at the most `continental' team in Britain.  One forummer even have a signature where a football personnel said that its easy to know which is Liverpool during the days of black & white tv.  They are usually the team with the ball.
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wow new thread di?!! YNWA thumbup.gif

cant wait for the next win,now i know what so great bout King Kenny back then,im thankful he took the job to guide LFC again,now im a believer notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 10:56 PM)
I know KD is flexible but this is an interesting article....

Jonathan Wilson is one of the best columnist on tactics...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/...ilson-liverpool
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Good read and the analysis is so detailed ! biggrin.gif
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Anyone seen the latest transfer gossip of lfc? If it's really the interests of lfc,not saying that i trust each of them,but if it's really are then i think we are going more into young prospects which is a good thing.



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Agger scored for denmark smile.gif
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and kuyt just scored a penalty biggrin.gif
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Our summer target, Benzema scored for France against Brazil
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 08:23 AM)
Our summer target, Benzema scored for France against Brazil
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and where u got the idea we target benzema in the summer after juz capturing carroll?? blink.gif
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and where u got the idea we target benzema in the summer after juz capturing carroll?? blink.gif
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well, if Benz is surplus to RM, and if we hav the cash, its not a bad idea to buy this youngster and turn him into a feared shooter b4 reselling it to another "chelsea" anyway SAF ady hav an eye for him b4 his move to RM.....
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 10 2011, 08:50 AM)
and where u got the idea we target benzema in the summer after juz capturing carroll?? blink.gif
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laugh.gif a front 3 of suarez carrol benzema
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QUOTE(berzerk @ Feb 10 2011, 09:08 AM)
laugh.gif a front 3 of suarez carrol benzema
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we can play wif 3 2 2 3

3 central defenders
2 wingbacks
2 defensive midfielders
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QUOTE(berzerk @ Feb 10 2011, 09:08 AM)
laugh.gif a front 3 of suarez carrol benzema
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and we'll ended up like chelsea where two target striker playing together..it wont work i tell ya..u have to drop one of them rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 10 2011, 09:12 AM)
and we'll ended up like chelsea where two target striker playing together..it wont work i tell ya..u have to drop one of them rolleyes.gif
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the wingbacks can supply the strikers

the DM can also supply the strikers and fall back to defend

remember we still hav 3 defenders to cover Reina


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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:15 AM)
the wingbacks can supply the strikers

the DM can also supply the strikers and fall back to defend

remember we still hav 3 defenders to cover Reina
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remember Suarez can also be the supplier to Benz and Carroll

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we only play 3 CB when we dont have suarez and carroll. KD will change to 4-3-3 once they can play.3-4-2-1 formation is good tactic but risky. u wont get many goals but the good thing is we have solid defend.
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Every formation has its merits ... on paper; every tactic has its strong points ... again on paper. I think formations and tactics are secondary to how the players apply themselves on the field.

Remember how Kuyt remarked that the way Liverpool is playing now is like the Dutch "total football". I believe it's because every player is moving and running now. Remember those days (no need to mention under who) when a winger/fullback got behind the opposition's defence and crossed .. only to find that there was hardly any red shirt in the box to meet the cross. The players were almost static.. keeping the formation, keeping the shape ...!

Now, under KD's old bootroom philosophy, there's plenty of off-the-ball running and players are constantly moving. This results in the opposition not knowing where our attack is going to switch to. If we have many players who can score, this will certainly cause panic as our opponents have to watch out for all these players who are running towards their goal!

Flashback to our goal against Chelsea with Meireles (whose strength is in his tireless running and willingness to shoot) running behind Kuyt and you can imagine what can happen when we play like this every time.

Keeping in motion and running up and down is sheer hard work. That is precisely why KD said the players have to work hard.

Wigan cannot be underestimated. Nobody should be underestimated - that is also another old bootroom principle - we should field the best line-up possible and play the best possible. If the opponent turns out to be in good form, then at least we can grind out a hard-fought win. If our opponents are in bad shape, then we should just be professional and clobber them!

This is one thing that KD still has to work on : to get the players to push on for as many goals as possible even after we have taken the lead..

Looking forward to see these qualities displayed by our players and hence, another good performance ..
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Our priority is still left and right wing, we have enough striker at the moment with carrol, suarez, kuyt, ngog, pacheco
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:11 AM)
we can play wif 3 2 2 3

3 central defenders
2 wingbacks
2 defensive midfielders
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remember, playing with 3 strikers doesnt guaranteed u a win whistling.gif brows.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:11 AM)
we can play wif 3 2 2 3

3 central defenders
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2 defensive midfielders
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No offence but that formation aint gonna work. Just last Sunday Chelsea has shown when u pack your team with strikers you will only end up getting bullied in midfield. Charlie Adam should be the priority, as well as a fast-winger, maybe a left back too...but I don't think we should buy anymore CF during summer (unless Carroll turns out to be a huge flop that is...touchwood!!). And at any rate Ngog is becoming a quite reliable backup..so why waste money on Benzema who is another unproven striker in BPL?
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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 10:56 PM)
I know KD is flexible but this is an interesting article....

Jonathan Wilson is one of the best columnist on tactics...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2011/...ilson-liverpool
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Good read which reinforces my point that we did not go to Stamford Bridge to park the bus. Those who didn't watch the game would automatically assume we did when they saw 5 defenders on the team sheet. Watch the game however and you'll note that we did attack in numbers. It's just the players had to start buidling from a deeper position than usual. When we did go forward, we often threw caution to the wind. Instead of having players line up behind the ball like Houllier and Rafa used to, Dalglish instructed the players to make forward runs, leaving us exposed to counterattacks.

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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 10 2011, 10:27 AM)
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We also played 5 defenders against Stoke at home, if I'm not mistaken. KD's belief is the defence must be rock solid. Remember how leaky our defence has been this season?

With 3 in the centre, the fullbacks can support the attack according to their capabilities. It's enough to play with one recognized forward when we have 4 or 5 proven scorers - Gerrard, Meireles, Maxi, Kuyt ..

call them whatever!
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our defense is more solid since KD took over. we are playing with 3 CB and it is good..
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Well not surprising really because SC is good in defensive that's why KD bring SC in.
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same with Arshavin, fashion designer. doh.gif
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We are scoring goals from everywhere since that certain someone left the club. But suddenly i do miss stevie G scoring goals like he used too, but the club is above any players, so i don't care who scores, as long its for the team.

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Denmark prodigy Christian Eriksen leaves England and Arsenal midfielder Jack Wilshere in the shade

England came with eyes on Jack Wilshere but, in Copenhagen, it was a Dane, once again, who was the young Prince: Christian Eriksen. Little wonder Liverpool and AC Milan are monitoring him closely.
Wilshere, we were told, was to play in the Claude Makélélé role but that was quickly eschewed. Wilshere played in the Wilshere role, trying to shape the game with quick darts forward and also setting the tempo from deep.

He played well. His problem was that Eriksen played better and, time and again, stole in behind Wilshere who twisted his neck from side to side to see where his rival had gone.

It was never in more evidence than in the opening minutes. Wilshere was caught with Eriksen 10 yards beyond his left shoulder and the ball was threaded through. The Dane ran on and it was only because Nicklas Bendtner had sprinted too early that he was offside when the ball was then played through to him.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...land-Henry.html


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Yes, it must have hurt. But Daniel Agger probably didn't mind.

The Liverpool and Denmark centre back, who scored the opening goal on Wednesday night, showed off his huge tattoo which depicts a Viking graveyard in the middle of his back.

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He also has a Latin proverb 'Mors Certa, Hora Incerta' across the top of his back, meaning 'Death is certain, its hour is not' and inscriptions on his ankles along the lines of 'Pain is temporary, victory is forever'.

He is not alone in loving tattoos in the Anfield dressing room with team-mates Martin Skrtel and Raul Meireles sporting their own artwork.

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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 9 2011, 11:28 PM)
oh, that was just a classic quote from the golden days of Liverpool in the 70's 80s.  It simply described the passing game Liverpool is famous for.  To remind every players to pass the ball properly to a mate (as opposed to a hoof or speculative long ball) and then immediately run to a position ready to receive the next pass (very much like the way Xavi and Iniesta is doing it now eh?).  that is why Liverpool was often regarded at the most `continental' team in Britain.  One forummer even have a signature where a football personnel said that its easy to know which is Liverpool during the days of black & white tv.  They are usually the team with the ball.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 10 2011, 09:05 AM)
well, if Benz is surplus to RM, and if we hav the cash, its not a bad idea to buy this youngster and turn him into a feared shooter b4 reselling it to another "chelsea"  anyway SAF ady hav an eye for him b4 his move to RM.....
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Benzema still at RM so he still available for anyone to sign, with the right money of course.

QUOTE(RedSiglap56 @ Feb 10 2011, 09:46 AM)
Every formation has its merits ... on paper; every tactic has its strong points ... again on paper.  I think formations and tactics are secondary to how the players apply themselves on the field.

Remember how Kuyt remarked that the way Liverpool is playing now is like the Dutch "total football". I believe it's because every player is moving and running now. Remember those days (no need to mention under who) when a winger/fullback got behind the opposition's defence and crossed .. only to find that there was hardly any red shirt in the box to meet the cross. The players were almost static.. keeping the formation, keeping the shape ...!

Now, under KD's old bootroom philosophy, there's plenty of off-the-ball running and players are constantly moving.  This results in the opposition not knowing where our attack is going to switch to. If we have many players who can score, this will certainly cause panic as our opponents have to watch out for all these players who are running towards their goal!

Flashback to our goal against Chelsea with Meireles (whose strength is in his tireless running and willingness to shoot) running behind Kuyt and you can imagine what can happen when we play like this every time.

Keeping in motion and running up and down is sheer hard work.  That is precisely why KD said the players have to work hard.

Wigan cannot be underestimated. Nobody should be underestimated - that is also another old bootroom principle - we should field the best line-up possible and play the best possible. If the opponent turns out to be in good form, then at least we can grind out a hard-fought win.  If our opponents are in bad shape, then we should just be professional and clobber them!

This is one thing that KD still has to work on : to get the players to push on for as many goals as possible even after we have taken the lead..

Looking forward to see these qualities displayed by our players and hence, another good performance ..
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I know we should be looking forward to the next game against Wigan. But I find this article below from the us soccernet site to be very funny indeed:


Liverpool 1, Team Torres 0

Well, so much for the conventional wisdom that Kenny Dalglish had been out of soccer too long to understand the modern game. Either the game hasn't changed all that much in the 13 years since he last managed in the Prem or Liverpool's talent was better than anyone realized under Roy Hodgson. What a brilliant psychological gambit by Dalglish not to throw Luis Suarez into the deep end of Stamford Bridge after the Uruguayan scored in his debut midweek. Astonishingly, the Reds didn't need him or their $55 million injured striker Andy Carroll to beat Team Torres on Sunday.

History was made at the Bridge, as Liverpool secured its second league double over Chelsea, the only club to have managed the trick during the Roman Abramovich era. Dalglish basically employed the same bunch of players (with the notable exception of Fernando Torres) who had stifled the Blues 2-0 at Anfield in Uncle Roy's one memorable moment in charge. The difference, of course, is that when Dalglish wins with this collection of workhorses and international stragglers, it's the result of motivation, confidence and tactics -- not sheer dumb luck. With its fourth consecutive win of the King Kenny 2.0 era, Liverpool is now in sixth place, only six points behind Chelsea and those two beautiful words, "Champions League," are no longer spoken by just deluded Reds supporters.

This overly hyped meeting was always going to be about the turncoat Spaniard, especially after his midweek references to "going to a big club" and "kissing the badge." It looked friendly enough in the pregame handshakes, but clearly Liverpool had something else in mind for Fernando to kiss.

It was, truth be told, a dull, ragged affair. After Saturday's pyrotechnics, which included 41 goals scored around the league, the tedium of the match made for long stretches when the traveling supporters drowned out the home congregants, booing Torres' every touch and willing the likes of Jamie Carragher, back from injury, into a heroic performance at the back.

Carlo Ancelotti made it easy on Liverpool's three center backs by returning to the dreaded diamond formation with little boy lost Nicolas Anelka at the tip. Frank Lampard was nowhere to be found as the presence of Steven Gerrard must have had the poor man thinking he was wearing his England shirt. Chelsea lacked width, imagination and even a hint of danger, and surely Roman expected a greater return on his $80 million investment -- perhaps something more than a single shot on target.

On balance, Liverpool deserved to take home the three points. Maxi Rodriguez missed a goal so open that Dalglish may take away his Argentine passport and make him Welsh. But Raul Meireles continued his run of being the best player on the field during Liverpool's resurgence. On the sole goal of the match, it was his relentless effort and run that allowed him to latch onto Gerrard's vicious cross as Petr Cech could only scramble across his goal mouth.

Ironically, Liverpool showed the very grit and character that Torres complained was lacking as he thrust himself out the Kop front door. Such was the speed at which he racked up goals at Anfield that there's little doubt Fernando will eventually find his scoring tough -- and ability to smile. But on Sunday, I'm afraid he was dead on arrival.

http://espn.go.com/sports/soccer/news/_/id...prang-back-life

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OMG!!! new thread already n im so late....
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 10 2011, 12:04 PM)
We are scoring goals from everywhere since that certain someone left the club. But suddenly i do miss stevie G scoring goals like he used too, but the club is above any players, so i don't care who scores, as long its for the team.
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Interesting you should post this. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend some time back. Whilst its nice to see your team score spectacular goals, it is at the some time discerning that we had to rely on the spectacular to win games. I'm sure goals like Riise's freekick against the mancs, Gerrard's against Olympiacos/West Ham or Xabi's against Luton provide good talking points but I'd much rather we work out how to score simple ones, because this means the team played well, not the individual. Its good to know we can score 30 yard screamers but its more important to know that we can create opportunities for simple tap-ins. Look at how the team attacks now. Often you see players attacking in triangles, or 3's, passing the ball about and running into space. When you have players playing ahead of the one in possession, you give him options to move the ball forward. Not long ago, we struggled to get past average sides because they had more men behind the ball, and we were afraid to over commit men forward, hence our forward players were always outnumbered. Quite often we played the ball up to their penalty box and either lost possession or had to pass it back to a deeper player coming from midfield to belt it towards goal. Nowadays, we play the ball into the opposition box, to feet more often.

I agree. I don't care so much for spectacular goals anymore. I prefer scoring goals as a result of good team work.

QUOTE(�resentScythe @ Feb 10 2011, 01:28 PM)
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Good looking oriental dragon there. If it were on the back of some China man, I would've thought he'd be a Klang taiko.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2011, 04:09 PM)
Good looking oriental dragon there. If it were on the back of some China man, I would've thought he'd be a Klang taiko.
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Guys I watched this compilation of Lucas vs Chelsea and it made me appreciate his contribution in the game even more... enjoy
Credit to MilanKakaBaros

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Just came in to say this: those tattoos on agger , spectacular, i read up the whole explanation of his tattoos with interest. i dont think anyone in chelsea is that tattoo heavy. maybe drogba hv some but not visible cause he is black , ok bad joke.

on a more footballing side of things, liverpool did not play negatively at stamford bridge. from the start till finish. nvr in my mind thinking they are only coming to look for just 1 point.

a very good win against chelsea , a win that solidify the team spirit and hopefully will be making a come back to the champs league sooner rather then later.

NOT AT CHELSEA'S EXPENSES PLS YEAH. (hopefully)

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QUOTE(farisq @ Feb 10 2011, 03:56 PM)
Guys I watched this compilation of Lucas vs Chelsea and it made me appreciate his contribution in the game even more... enjoy
Credit to MilanKakaBaros

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Wow, those tackles he made didnt look great or very manly but heck, he won a lot of balls. Credits to him for making himself available most of the time which allow his teammates to pass the ball to him and us, managed to retain the possession. Still, I cant stop but keep wondering WHAT IF he continues his regular attacking role that won him the award in Brazil during his time with Gremio. rolleyes.gif
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Wow, those tackles he made didnt look great or very manly but heck, he won a lot of balls. Credits to him for making himself available most of the time which allow his teammates to pass the ball to him and us, managed to retain the possession. Still, I cant stop but keep wondering WHAT IF he continues his regular attacking role that won him the award in Brazil during his time with Gremio.  rolleyes.gif
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when this anak (mark) add to his canvas?  tongue.gif
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Slowly mate. Need to wait for my next moment of inspiration. In my opinion, you need to be inspired to get one, and not just have one for the sake of fashion. Also, it does hurt man and I can only imagine how excruciating it must have been for him to get it done on the insides of his arms the sides of his body where it tickles. Try pinching yourself there and see how long it hurts for. Then imagine using a blade to cut yourself in that region because thats what it feels like when the needle is punching holes in you at high velocity continously. Its why I chose my arm mate smile.gif It is the least painful place if you ask me.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 9 2011, 03:35 PM)
On a less serious note, we're the most twitted Premiere League team by far (http://sports.yahoo.com/soccer/news?slug=goal-liverpooltoppremierleaguetw). Reckon its the fact that Dalglish is the only manager who tweets. I personally follow Babel (RyanBabel), Lucas (LucasLeiva87), Jonjo Shelvey (J_Shelvey), Nathan Eccleston (NE39), MyRAWK and LFCTV. Anyone follow any of the other players? Address please? Also most major LFC resource sites tweet updates of their own. Its one good thing that G&H did at the club, look into social networking channels.
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guys may want to follow the following people on twitter:-

kenny dalglish (kennethdalglish)
john henry (John_W_Henry) - new owner
darren burgess (darrenburgess25) - head of fitness & conditioning
glen johnson (glen_johnson)
nathan eccleston (NE39)
lucas leiva (LucasLeiva87)
dirk kuyt (Dirk_18_Kuyt)
jonjo shelvey (J_Shelvey)
brad jones (Brad_Jones1)
ryan babel (RyanBabel) - mostly english, some german
xabi alonso (XabiAlonso) - mix of spanish & english
emiliano insua (EmilianoInsua) - mostly english
alvaro arbeloa (aarbeloa17) - spanish

found some funny tweets on twitter on why players don't tweet:-
soto tried tweeting however he broke his computer when he touched the enter key
el hadji diouf is on spitter, not twitter
joey barton doesn't tweet because his computer has a restraining order against him
michael owen wants to tweet however he is looking for a bigger twitter
harry kewell would tweet, but he sprained his keyboard
houllier claims that they are all his tweets
saf will not tweet until twitter allows him more than 140 characters
konchesky was tweeting however his mum was upset he switched from facebook
drogba tried to tweet, but after barely touching the keyboard he collapsed in agony and rolled around for 5 minutes
hodgson won't tweet because the computer he inherited isn't his
pennant tried to tweet but he forgot his laptop in a carpark in spain
heskey tried his best to tweet but fell over on the way to the keyboard
torres tried to tweet, but then decided to go with the bigger technology - morse code
moyes doesn't tweet because everton can't afford to provide him a computer
hodgson won't tweet because he can't find a keyboard with a 442 layout
maxi tried to tweet but he missed the keyboard from 3 yards out
sir alex ferguson writes howard webb's tweets
arsene didn't see the offending tweet
craig bellamy can't tweet, his keyboard has a golf club lodged in it
carra doesn't tweet, he's a facebooker through and through
el hadji diouf doesn't tweet because his computer screen is full of spit

have fun tweeting people!

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follow @anfieldonline too ..
they'll bring up latest news about LFC and commentate (in words ofcoz) the match if u cant watch it live ..
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Feb 10 2011, 03:13 PM)
If anyone wanted to know what Dagger's tattoo meant

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amazing tats really...
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dun forget during chelsea time mourinho assistant steve clark always wan the team to defend even leading 1-0.

so i think pass and move just a sham..liverpool way is good in defend, and then good in attack especially counter attack.

3 cb is dam good weh, i play FM using the same formation by kenny dalglish, i took fulham to champions.


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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 10 2011, 03:09 PM)
Interesting you should post this. Reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend some time back. Whilst its nice to see your team score spectacular goals, it is at the some time discerning that we had to rely on the spectacular to win games. I'm sure goals like Riise's freekick against the mancs, Gerrard's against Olympiacos/West Ham or Xabi's against Luton provide good talking points but I'd much rather we work out how to score simple ones, because this means the team played well, not the individual. Its good to know we can score 30 yard screamers but its more important to know that we can create opportunities for simple tap-ins. Look at how the team attacks now. Often you see players attacking in triangles, or 3's, passing the ball about and running into space. When you have players playing ahead of the one in possession, you give him options to move the ball forward. Not long ago, we struggled to get past average sides because they had more men behind the ball, and we were afraid to over commit men forward, hence our forward players were always outnumbered. Quite often we played the ball up to their penalty box and either lost possession or had to pass it back to a deeper player coming from midfield to belt it towards goal. Nowadays, we play the ball into the opposition box, to feet more often.
may not be directly related but there used to be a debate (when Gerrard was considering a huge money move away from Liverpool) about Gerrard the midfielder. Everyone agrees he is spectacular- full of energy, hollywood passes, tireless running, grab game by scruff of neck, bombastic long distance strikes...
i remember reading some comments that this hollywood style of play is not alway effective and lack consistencies. The argument is that true midfield leaders/winners are not spectacular but are rather simple players. They keep the formation of the team and makes things simple. People like Keano or Vierra. Gerrard is sometimes guilty of wanting to do too much himself or aiming for the impossible.

Anyway, the Agger pic made me realised that most of our players, have been playing in a series of competitive matches without resting?

IF these same players do well against Wigan this weekend, it will provide a compelling argument against the need to rest/rotate players who are healthy/fit and motivated.

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baru dengar di radio sinarFM liverpool letak Riena 20m...betul ke??

memang betul nak jual Riena ke
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QUOTE(apiy @ Feb 10 2011, 06:12 PM)
baru dengar di radio sinarFM liverpool letak Riena 20m...betul ke??

memang betul nak jual Riena ke
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QUOTE(apiy @ Feb 10 2011, 06:12 PM)
baru dengar di radio sinarFM liverpool letak Riena 20m...betul ke??

memang betul nak jual Riena ke
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Well thats his release clause...so if any club bid 20mil for reinal, the club got no choice but to accept it..
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Feb 10 2011, 04:51 PM)
guys may want to follow the following people on twitter:-

kenny dalglish (kennethdalglish)
john henry (John_W_Henry) - new owner
darren burgess (darrenburgess25) - head of fitness & conditioning
glen johnson (glen_johnson)
nathan eccleston (NE39)
lucas leiva (LucasLeiva87)
dirk kuyt (Dirk_18_Kuyt)
jonjo shelvey (J_Shelvey)
brad jones (Brad_Jones1)
ryan babel (RyanBabel) - mostly english, some german
xabi alonso (XabiAlonso) - mix of spanish & english
emiliano insua (EmilianoInsua) - mostly english
alvaro arbeloa (aarbeloa17) - spanish

found some funny tweets on twitter on why players don't tweet:-
soto tried tweeting however he broke his computer when he touched the enter key
el hadji diouf is on spitter, not twitter
joey barton doesn't tweet because his computer has a restraining order against him
michael owen wants to tweet however he is looking for a bigger twitter
harry kewell would tweet, but he sprained his keyboard
houllier claims that they are all his tweets
saf will not tweet until twitter allows him more than 140 characters
konchesky was tweeting however his mum was upset he switched from facebook
drogba tried to tweet, but after barely touching the keyboard he collapsed in agony and rolled around for 5 minutes
hodgson won't tweet because the computer he inherited isn't his
pennant tried to tweet but he forgot his laptop in a carpark in spain
heskey tried his best to tweet but fell over on the way to the keyboard
torres tried to tweet, but then decided to go with the bigger technology - morse code
moyes doesn't tweet because everton can't afford to provide him a computer
hodgson won't tweet because he can't find a keyboard with a 442 layout
maxi tried to tweet but he missed the keyboard from 3 yards out
sir alex ferguson writes howard webb's tweets
arsene didn't see the offending tweet
craig bellamy can't tweet, his keyboard has a golf club lodged in it
carra doesn't tweet, he's a facebooker through and through
el hadji diouf doesn't tweet because his computer screen is full of spit

have fun tweeting people!
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Thanks for the twitter links.

Also, the twitter jokes are hilarous.

Konchesky's mom rclxms.gif

Drogba's low threshold for pain rclxms.gif

Torres going back to morse code rclxms.gif What's the code for SOS? ___ . . . ___
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 10 2011, 07:02 PM)
Well thats his release clause...so if any club bid 20mil for reinal, the club got no choice but to accept it..
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Well thats his release clause...so if any club bid 20mil for reinal, the club got no choice but to accept it..
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And the player also has the say either he wants to leave or not smile.gif
Next time all new £20m and above player bought need to have buyout clause atleast £60m (3X)
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he ended with an extract of reina's comments last year
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we still a long way but there's been many promises. the same team RH dish us to the media & how rafa left a depleted squad is showing some guts with some flexibility on strategies/formation to churn some solid results.

if fergie's good friend had carried on at Lfc, i sure the bookies are placing us to be the likes to relegate.
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it seems nowadays barcelona always put obscene amount of buyout clause for their players. liverpool should do that too.
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it seems nowadays barcelona always put obscene amount of buyout clause for their players. liverpool should do that too.
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i'm not sure if that is a good exercise. because even though the club can reject offers from other clubs for their players, but it is down to the player himself whether he want to commit or not. If the club reject good offer for a certain player, when the player clearly want to move on, it could upset the player. if the player have positive mindset, he might wait and give it all for the club until the right moment come to move on. But if the player chose to sulk, behave like crap, play without giving 100% effort and skip training, better let him go. that player not only will dissapoint the manager, but also other players and fans.

Barcelona able to do this perhaps because of their current dominance in Spanish league.
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pfftt ,.. Jonjo Shelvey faces 12 weeks out with a knee injury:


Added on February 11, 2011, 12:36 amKD shud get taiwo, coz he will be available on a free transfer at the end of the season ..

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QUOTE(mamet @ Feb 11 2011, 12:22 AM)
pfftt ,.. Jonjo Shelvey faces 12 weeks out with a knee injury:
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Very bad news sad.gif Well it is time for others to shine

Speaking of Barca, I just realised few days back that they have bought Ibrahim Afellay for £2.5 million. I don't know about you guyz, but I think that is quite a bargain. He is not yet considered as a great player, but I think he has the potential to be one. I would put him in the same class as Marko Marin. But again I don't really follow Dutch League or Germany Bundesliga. Maybe somebody who has constantly watching them can shed some light.
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After Shelvey's injury we could have done with Adam in midfield. Spearing is out as well. Poulsen should get some playing time and maybe Conor Coady perhaps?

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QUOTE(triple02 @ Feb 11 2011, 12:49 AM)
After Shelvey's injury we could have done with Adam in midfield. Spearing is out as well. Poulsen should get some playing time and maybe Conor Coady perhaps?
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Coady is a good shout indeed, he's quite an athelete and is highly regarded in the Academy. Don't forget there's also Suso, whose been trained to play in CM this season.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 11 2011, 01:16 AM)
Coady is a good shout indeed, he's quite an athelete and is highly regarded in the Academy. Don't forget there's also Suso, whose been trained to play in CM this season.
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ahh yes Suso..but just have a feeling Coady will nudge it since he did represent England U19's midweek, at least he has that little bit of experience of playing on a bigger stage compared to Suso but i wouldnt mind at all if Suso is selected..afterall both of them are quite highly rated in the Acacemy

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Have to say, i feel so relieved to know we have young CM talents like Coady and Suso waiting in line. The fact that they're both highly talented makes the competition even more fierce and intriguing. Reckon Dalglish is spoilt for choices, he could go for the sturdier built Coady or the silkier Suso. Eager to see if either of them get any minutes.
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why so easily injured jonjo shelvey...he's like never injure in the field ma...funny, these youngster come out play then injured...funny la..why so easy wan?
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Never in my life had I so excited and eager to watch Liverpool match, I had supported Liverpool for more than 10 years, I can say earlier of the season was the most horrendous feel for every Liverpool fans in the world.

But now, things had changed, tides had turned. Now we can all look forward to every Liverpool match with great hope and expectation because we know the new "Liverpool" is the old Liverpool of the 80s.

The spirit is there, the enthusiasm is there, the spirit of Shankly is evidently there.

And more so, King Kenny is there.

As aligned to our golden motto, You'll Never Walk Alone.
Never had I seen a football club with greater support for their beloved club than the famous Kopites.

We are not glory hunter, we don't support a team that suddenly rise to fame because of wealth and richness in terms of cash.

We support Liverpool because it is LIVERPOOL.

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Why Suarez will be a HIT

Hope he will start against Wigan...buy whoever King kEnny put out is fine ny me, in The King we trust!
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Feb 11 2011, 12:49 AM)
After Shelvey's injury we could have done with Adam in midfield. Spearing is out as well. Poulsen should get some playing time and maybe Conor Coady perhaps?
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It's a long shot but our back four is fit and let's not forget than Dagger had expressed some interest in playing the holding role before. Boy am I delighted that finally, we have a boss who appreciates his ability.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 10 2011, 10:34 PM)
i'm not sure if that is a good exercise. because even though the club can reject offers from other clubs for their players, but it is down to the player himself whether he want to commit or not. If the club reject good offer for a certain player, when the player clearly want to move on, it could upset the player. if the player have positive mindset, he might wait and give it all for the club until the right moment come to move on. But if the player chose to sulk, behave like crap, play without giving 100% effort and skip training, better let him go. that player not only will dissapoint the manager, but also other players and fans.

Barcelona able to do this perhaps because of their current dominance in Spanish league.
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Which was one on the reasons I wanted to see King Kenny reinstalled as manager. Nobody is bigger than Kenny Dalglish, not Carragher, not Gerrard. If any player goes up against him, the fans will back Kenny. Said a lot that Dalglish was voted no.1 ahead of Gerrard in the list of "Players Which Shook the Kop". One man to rule them all. One man to find them. One man to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. The Return of the King...
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Agger vents his anger at Torres for unacceptable move

Duno whether it's real or not, but I really like this from Dagger :

When asked about Torres's decision to join Chelsea, though, Agger was fiercely critical. Speaking to Danish newspaper Ekstra Bladet, Agger said "it is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals".

"For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey, and will never go to another club in England. I will never go to play for Manchester United or Everton. It's about a form of respect for the club."


I think this sentence is also taking a poke at RH tongue.gif :

"First of all because he likes to play positive football, going forward, and keeping the ball on the ground and I think he is good among the players. The training sessions have been really good and I think everything starts at the training ground. If you can get that right you have a big advantage in the games."

I think I heard Johnson mentioning before Woy's training session didn't really involve using football much. Even in the pictures on LFC.tv, they mostly cycling, jogging, and using exercise ball. wtf.
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Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger



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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 08:30 AM)
Which was one on the reasons I wanted to see King Kenny reinstalled as manager. Nobody is bigger than Kenny Dalglish, not Carragher, not Gerrard. If any player goes up against him, the fans will back Kenny. Said a lot that Dalglish was voted no.1 ahead of Gerrard in the list of "Players Which Shook the Kop". One man to rule them all. One man to find them. One man to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. The Return of the King...
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exactly, only shanks and paisley is bigger than him. he is liverpool royalty. this is almost impossible but i dunno later down the road when whether or not FSG will suddenly feel threaten by kenny influences. H&G maybe, but FSG is a class act so far.
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Feb 11 2011, 02:42 AM)
why so easily injured jonjo shelvey...he's like never injure in the field ma...funny, these youngster come out play then injured...funny la..why so easy wan?
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freak injury? jatuh katil while bangun tidur?

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 08:01 AM)
It's a long shot but our back four is fit and let's not forget than Dagger had expressed some interest in playing the holding role before. Boy am I delighted that finally, we have a boss who appreciates his ability.
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Dagger have that ability to play in that role. As a CB, he is good but must shake off that school boy play or fancy play. Plus he don't have the stature to battle against the likes of Drogba, Carew, Heskey. Maybe when play in holding role he can express himself more. plus he will have more chance to shoot from distance often than when he play as a CB.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Feb 11 2011, 10:21 AM)
exactly, only shanks and paisley is bigger than him. he is liverpool royalty. this is almost impossible but i dunno later down the road when whether or not FSG will suddenly feel threaten by kenny influences. H&G maybe, but FSG is a class act so far.
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As long as FSG don't do what Abramovich does to his managers then it should be ok. FSG just managed the club in terms of marketing and leave the football to Kenny. Prepare the transfer fund for KD to buy his own choice of players. Don't force KD to buy a certain player that although world class but not in KD's plan. remember Shevchenko? Mourinho didn't want him but Abramovich for Mourinho to use shevchenko. Just do what Glazer did which is leave football matter to SAF although Glazer leave a huge pile of debt on MU. lol.
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oh ok, now we know where that elbow came from!

always thought he was one of the quieter, calmer lads... and that Carragher would be the one to put a boot up Torres' butt laugh.gif


Added on February 11, 2011, 10:30 am
QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 11 2011, 10:28 AM)
As long as FSG don't do what Abramovich does to his managers then it should be ok. FSG just managed the club in terms of marketing and leave the football to Kenny. Prepare the transfer fund for KD to buy his own choice of players. Don't force KD to buy a certain player that although world class but not in KD's plan. remember Shevchenko? Mourinho didn't want him but Abramovich for Mourinho to use shevchenko. Just do what Glazer did which is leave football matter to SAF although Glazer leave a huge pile of debt on MU. lol.
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I am still uncertain if CA or the other Chelsea players actually want Torres.

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 10:29 AM)
oh ok, now we know where that elbow came from!

always thought he was one of the quieter, calmer lads... and that Carragher would be the one to put a boot up Torres' butt laugh.gif


Added on February 11, 2011, 10:30 am

I am still uncertain if CA or the other Chelsea players actually want Torres.
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If I not mistaken, CA last season said he prefered Drog over Torres. The obsession for Torres (and Gerrard in the past) is start by Roman Abramovich himself. He got his man and CA have to play him, or else...see what happened to Mour. tongue.gif
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Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 11 2011, 10:07 AM)
Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/fe...ol-daniel-agger
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Feb 11 2011, 10:36 AM)
If I not mistaken, CA last season said he prefered Drog over Torres. The obsession for Torres (and Gerrard in the past) is start by Roman Abramovich himself. He got his man and CA have to play him, or else...see what happened to Mour. tongue.gif
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I'd rather no one else in Liverpool colours elbow Torres again. Hard enough to beat them with eleven men.

One thing I will miss about Torres though... back when he first joined he would take any punishment, get up and make the defenders pay by scoring. Unfortunately towards the end he was more focussed on whining. if he sets his head straight, methinks he will be a success at Chelsea. If not, RA's probably looking at another Shevchenko hmm.gif
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The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.


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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 11 2011, 10:07 AM)
Daniel Agger has denounced Fernando Torres for showing a lack of "respect" for Liverpool by joining Chelsea but admitted the Merseysiders' dismal start to the season had contributed heavily to the Spaniard's inconsistent form.

The Denmark centre-half has been a key member of the Liverpool side revitalised under Kenny Dalglish, rising to sixth in the table and six points from the fourth Champions League qualification place. The arrival of the £23m Luis Suárez from Ajax and Newcastle's Andy Carroll for a club record £35m could add even more impetus, potentially offsetting the £50m departure of Torres to Stamford Bridge.

The Spaniard's move, triggered by a desire to leave Anfield, frustrated Agger. "It is unacceptable to play for one of Liverpool's arch rivals," he said. "For a Dane, it's about having respect for the club you play at. I am proud to be able to pull on my Liverpool jersey and will never go to another club in England. I would never go to Manchester United or Everton, for example. It's about a form of respect for the club.

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Exactly what I've been trying to lay out since the last few posts. This is not about accepting the reality or not. I know each and everyone has their own dream or target and moving on is inevitable in football. But joining a rival club is just plain unacceptable. You join Chelsea because Lampard is better than Gerrard? You join Man Utd because Fletcher is more hardworking than Kuyt? Where's the respect for King Kenny? CA or SAF will give me more confidence as compared to KD?
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Agger is a class lad. his interview says alot about who he is. The best part in the interview was that he said "we were shit" laugh.gif brutally honest but true nonetheless..and so the man crush on him grows even more

He is vital to how we play, hope that he stays injury free after all the injury he's had over the years. Lucas as well, i took sometime to read about him, his upbringing and his interviews are so genuine, i wonder how some people in our camp can bring themselves to hate him. jeez..

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As long as FSG don't do what Abramovich does to his managers then it should be ok. FSG just managed the club in terms of marketing and leave the football to Kenny. Prepare the transfer fund for KD to buy his own choice of players. Don't force KD to buy a certain player that although world class but not in KD's plan. remember Shevchenko? Mourinho didn't want him but Abramovich for Mourinho to use shevchenko. Just do what Glazer did which is leave football matter to SAF although Glazer leave a huge pile of debt on MU. lol.
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i dont think FSG act like Roman, u can see how they give a time to Roy, they not fired him, it is mutual between them. It is pressure for roy to handle a big team like liverpool. but still Roy leave with a respect from owner and fans. FSG already mention they come to liverpool for a long time plan to revive liverpool. It means no short cut. This is to improve youth academy, bring youngster to liverpool and at the same time they want to make profit. I prefer this way rather than billionaire spoil the sport way.

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Exactly what I've been trying to lay out since the last few posts. This is not about accepting the reality or not. I know each and everyone has their own dream or target and moving on is inevitable in football. But joining a rival club is just plain unacceptable. You join Chelsea because Lampard is better than Gerrard? You join Man Utd because Fletcher is more hardworking than Kuyt? Where's the respect for King Kenny? CA or SAF will give me more confidence as compared to KD?
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At this point in time, Man Utd look like being Prem League champs and are in the Champ League. They have had unrivalled success in the past 20 years so they are still miles ahead of us. Unfair to compare Dalglish and Fergie at this point.
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one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 03:27 AM)
At this point in time, Man Utd look like being Prem League champs and are in the Champ League. They have had unrivalled success in the past 20 years so they are still miles ahead of us. Unfair to compare Dalglish and Fergie at this point.
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but the last time Liverpool won it under KD, and after KD leave, AF start to dominate. but KD success with Blackburn. If KD stay with liverpool, I think KD can be a good rival for AF.

and KD first game in charge liverpool after Roy, can you see AF red face. he looks worry in 90 minutes even when we're played with 10 men.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 11 2011, 11:25 AM)
i dont think FSG act like Roman, u can see how they give a time to Roy, they not fired him, it is mutual between them. It is pressure for roy to handle a big team like liverpool. but still Roy leave with a respect from owner and fans. FSG already mention they come to liverpool for a long time plan to revive liverpool. It means no short cut. This is to improve youth academy, bring youngster to liverpool and at the same time they want to make profit. I prefer this way rather than billionaire spoil the sport way.
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Please pass me some of that stuff that you're smoking laugh.gif
I find it amazingly amusing that the "Roy for England" calls have subsided in a non sarcastic way.

Imho John Henry isn't even close to being as rich as any of the other owners, but I suspect he has a lot more access to other peoples' money - which is even better because aside from having potentially more funds than anyone else, he also needs to be held accountable for his use of said funds, hence less knee jerk or impulsive splurges?

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QUOTE(mkaz @ Feb 11 2011, 03:29 AM)
one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??
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dont think so mate, if u follow liverpool match this season, he's one of the good and consistent liverpool player in the field. he does a good dirty job. but under the KD we can see more from him


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Please pass me some of that stuff that you're smoking  laugh.gif
I find it amazingly amusing that the "Roy for England" calls have subsided in a non sarcastic way.

Imho John Henry isn't even close to being as rich as any of the other owners, but I suspect he has a lot more access to other peoples' money - which is even better because aside from having potentially more funds than anyone else, he also needs to be held accountable for his use of said funds, hence less knee jerk or impulsive splurges?
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eheheh. yes, he leaves. thats y fans respect him, no need to wait until owner to sack him. ofcourse he receives a lot of pressure to step down and he took it by mutual between owner and him. if he has a lot of ego, he will waits until owner to sack him

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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 11 2011, 11:33 AM)
dont think so mate, if u follow liverpool match this season, he's one of the good and consistent liverpool player in the field. he does a good dirty job. but under the KD we can see more from him


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eheheh. yes, he leaves. thats y fans respect him, no need to wait until owner to sack him. ofcourse he receives a lot of pressure to step down and he took it by mutual between owner and him. if he has a lot of ego, he will waits until owner to sack him
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Wasnt Roy sacked? that turd wouldnt have the dignity to resign without getting his payoff.
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84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.
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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 11 2011, 11:25 AM)
i dont think FSG act like Roman, u can see how they give a time to Roy, they not fired him, it is mutual between them. It is pressure for roy to handle a big team like liverpool. but still Roy leave with a respect from owner and fans. FSG already mention they come to liverpool for a long time plan to revive liverpool. It means no short cut. This is to improve youth academy, bring youngster to liverpool and at the same time they want to make profit. I prefer this way rather than billionaire spoil the sport way.
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currently what Liverpool, MU, and Arsenal are doing is trying to produce homegrown players from their academy although Arsenal have more French based players in their squad. a good sign for England when top clubs begin producing rather than buying only.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 11:27 AM)
At this point in time, Man Utd look like being Prem League champs and are in the Champ League. They have had unrivalled success in the past 20 years so they are still miles ahead of us. Unfair to compare Dalglish and Fergie at this point.
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One thing for sure KD is a proven. of course, no one can deny SAF achievements. Kd might not having the same trophy filling cabinet as SAF but that is down to his long hiatus from management. i'm sure next season Liverpool will be a strong force once more.

QUOTE(mkaz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:29 AM)
one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??
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every player have his own off day. i still remember when everyone criticise him for last season performance but he come good this season. same as the like of Fletcher.

QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:43 AM)
84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.
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Lucas might not be flashy but he is certainly effective.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:43 AM)
84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.
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Well said Madz. It's hard for someone like Lucas to be appreciated because most fans dwell too much on individual performances and neglect to take notice of the more none-glamorous stuff like team work contributions. I also agree that Kenny would prefer Lucas over Xabi and Masc simply because the two of them are specialists where as Lucas is the more all rounder midfielder - doesn't require much tactical changes to accommodate him. In a sense, Lucas is a 'plug n play' kinda player - he looks good in any formation.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:43 AM)
84% pass completion all season supposedly... that does imply some degree of consistency.

I suppose the real problem with Lucas' game is that it isn't flashy. Aside from his mistakes, there isn't anything memorable about it. Accordingly, it is glaringly obvious when he does make a mistake that gifts a goalscoring chance to the opposition.

Unlike our previous two midfield anchors - Alonso was always remembered for his looooong accurate passes (although his forte imho were not his passes but his many many interceptions) while Mascherano attracts more attention with his scampering runs across the pitch, gobbling up space and making that crunching tackle on some unfortunate sod... Both very spectacular and pleasing to look at.

Lucas on the other hand plays a simple understated game. I would go as far as say that Lucas is a better player in KK (oh oh ok, KD and not King Kenny) KD's system than either Alonso or Mascherano will ever be.

Pass and move isn't spectacular - it is simple and effective. Imho anyways.
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funny just last season lucas was a scapegoat for many games.. even got boo-ed by own fans. people questioning RB why he stick with this blonde dude.. now we got the answer

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QUOTE(mkaz @ Feb 11 2011, 11:29 AM)
one thing bout lucas is he's not consistent, good in one game, shit on another..
but he's improving dats for sure ..
btw iinm he played as attacking mid in gremio, no ??
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That is a myth actually, he was arguably our best player last season and the most inspirational one this season. He was a box to box midfielder in Gremio but when he came to Liverpool, Rafa played him in DM to 'toughen' him up and to improve his overall game. Reckon it's paying off quite handsomely now. He already had the natural attacking instinct, all that's left was to improve his defensive side of the game and by playing in CM/DM, it helped to improve his game awareness and positioning.
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since the departure of alonso, we've been more or less playing a different ball game with lucas as the fulcrum of the team. we haven't been playing flashy football that i can tell, but at least for the time being lucas has been the midfield general that nobody took notice of. the lad is improving still, and that's good news. he'll never be the star of the team, but at least we can be glad that somebody's doing the dirty work on the pitch to allow the others to shine.

agger's interview simply reflects what kind of person he is. not the best with words, but brutally honest. hostile too if you ask me, but that man deserves some praise for painting out the meaning of wearing the liverpool jersey, although not with the most beautiful vocabulary. you can see how he got screwed in his previous interview on hodgson's tactics, agger is not the type that offers diplomatic words. it's either you're with us, or you're against us. good spirit, and now let's see how he'll grow into the team.

personally i thought we did quite well in the january transfer window. some said that we're spending huge on the last day but sometimes some people think with their a$$, our expenditure last month was less than 2mil. lazy journalists would write that chelsea and liverpool alone spent about 130mil on the final day but failed to point out that the 100mil figure only fizzed through our account and out. we obviously didn't spend big, in fact barca spent more than us during the window, but journalists aren't known for intelligence.

still early days, but am a little impressed with how john henry runs his business. he made himself looking like a generous chap who can spend a lot when actually little money came out from the pocket. suarez and carroll may come with hefty pricetags attached, but he did mention that the reason why the carroll-torres deals will always have a 15mil difference, which in the end sort of makes up the suarez transfer fee.

torres needs the new environment, he'd probably excel in the chelsea team in the near future, but the same can be said for suarez and carroll. the minutes suarez spent on the pitch he looked far more determined and lightfooted compared to torres, and at least we saw somebody who wants to win the game while wearing the liverpool jersey. carroll has done well in his games this season, typical english forward. not pretty, but shearer made his name that way, so let's hope the young man can gear up and show the world what he's capable of.
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if he turns out to be as good as shearer - knees, elbows, stamps, headbutts (wait did shearer ever headbutt anyone?) included, 35 million will seem like a bargain.

I won't judge Henry as yet, but I have seen enough to respect (and truth be told, fear) the man. He's ruthless and manipulative. Everything he does seems cold and calculated. Spent peanuts, yet made himself look like a hero in very difficult times. Shrugged off criticisms about sticking with Uncle Roy for waaay to long. Then our best player left, yet how many are actually missing him? This yank is not a cowboy... he is much more dangerous - he's an media savvy wall street b@st@rd!!! laugh.gif

Also, on another sad note about Torres' demise... was wearing Torres' myRAWK tee yesterday... an ang mo stopped me in the middle of the street and said he was surprised to see me wear it. So I asked him if he was a disgruntled Liverpool supporter (secretly hoping to lecture someone the merits of appreciating ones past contributions brows.gif). He said no. Apparently he doesn't even watch football but he has heard and read enough to know that Torres is a lying turncoat shocking.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 01:07 PM)
if he turns out to be as good as shearer - knees, elbows, stamps, headbutts (wait did shearer ever headbutt anyone?) included, 35 million will seem like a bargain.

I won't judge Henry as yet, but I have seen enough to respect (and truth be told, fear) the man. He's ruthless and manipulative. Everything he does seems cold and calculated. Spent peanuts, yet made himself look like a hero in very difficult times. Shrugged off criticisms about sticking with Uncle Roy for waaay to long. Then our best player left, yet how many are actually missing him? This yank is not a cowboy... he is much more dangerous - he's an media savvy wall street b@st@rd!!! laugh.gif

Also, on another sad note about Torres' demise... was wearing Torres' myRAWK tee yesterday... an ang mo stopped me in the middle of the street and said he was surprised to see me wear it. So I asked him if he was a disgruntled Liverpool supporter (secretly hoping to lecture someone the merits of appreciating ones past contributions brows.gif). He said no. Apparently he doesn't even watch football but he has heard and read enough to know that Torres is a lying turncoat shocking.gif
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sad isn't it? i won't hurl abuses at torres for that one decision he made, but in the minds of most people the man has done what very few people dared to do. my wife who does not watch football was upset and for the first time watched a liverpool match with me at the mamak, and made cheeky remarks aimed at torres on FB after that chelsea-liverpool match. there are just some things people hate to see, and people who don't really understand will forever bear grudges. unfortunate torres did just that.

that does not take away all the great moments he's given us in the short spell wearing our jersey, torres will be a good player wherever he goes. just a poor manner of exit and the reputation's gone.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 01:07 PM)
if he turns out to be as good as shearer - knees, elbows, stamps, headbutts (wait did shearer ever headbutt anyone?) included, 35 million will seem like a bargain.

I won't judge Henry as yet, but I have seen enough to respect (and truth be told, fear) the man. He's ruthless and manipulative. Everything he does seems cold and calculated. Spent peanuts, yet made himself look like a hero in very difficult times. Shrugged off criticisms about sticking with Uncle Roy for waaay to long. Then our best player left, yet how many are actually missing him? This yank is not a cowboy... he is much more dangerous - he's an media savvy wall street b@st@rd!!! laugh.gif

Also, on another sad note about Torres' demise... was wearing Torres' myRAWK tee yesterday... an ang mo stopped me in the middle of the street and said he was surprised to see me wear it. So I asked him if he was a disgruntled Liverpool supporter (secretly hoping to lecture someone the merits of appreciating ones past contributions brows.gif). He said no. Apparently he doesn't even watch football but he has heard and read enough to know that Torres is a lying turncoat shocking.gif
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HAHaHa. One word to say about liverpool supporters. Deluded and ignorant. Wearing a Torres tee on the street = 100 % Stupidity. Obviously no passion for the club and still have the cheek to write about it here. What does this say about u. The Ang Mo who is not a Liverpool supporter loves Liverpool more then you. What a joke. I really enjoy reading things in this forum. Makes me laugh and drives my stress away. Why dun u think that he should not know that Torres has left Liverpool. You mean everyone is as ignorant as you? Liverpool is a "big" club with history but no future so of course any tom, d*** and harry would have known that. The funny thing is that you actually wrote this on the forum embarassing yourself. Seriously, does anyone in this forum actually knows you personally?

If Mr Caroll does turn out to be as good as Shearer, even then, 35 million is not a bargain. Just to accentuate your ignorance, Mr Caroll was a panic buy and he was just worth 2 million pounds 2 years ago. You would have been lucky if he was good but you have just wasted money on someone who is not even worth half that at this point of time.

Ruthless? If he was ruthless, Woy would have been gone much earlier. Spent peanuts? You mean 300 million is only peanuts? Liverpool is not even worth half of Manchester United why would you think he actually spent peanuts.  You are talking about the transfer market I guess. Losing your tailsman for sureez who is considered a good player and Roy Caroll who is currently an unknown is good business. Seriously, even darren bent is worth much more then Roy Caroll as he is proven and has premier league experience and yet people are laughing that he actually gone to Aston Villa for 24 million. For someone who has only been on the big stage for 6 months you actually spent 35 million and you still think it is not a big mistake. Well goes to show how financial savvy you really are

Well , I guess loads are missing him even though who are not liverpool supporters who are secretly cursing him. I mean if you dun miss someone you would not even talk about him rite? Actually what is the problem with Torres leaving. He has already shown his disgrunt so it is obvious that he is going to leave sooner or later. I mean did he lie when he said that Liverpool are not winning trophies?
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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 01:55 PM)
HAHaHa. One word to say about liverpool supporters. Deluded and ignorant. Wearing a Torres tee on the street = 100 % Stupidity. Obviously no passion for the club and still have the cheek to write about it here. What does this say about u. The Ang Mo who is not a Liverpool supporter loves Liverpool more then you. What a joke. I really enjoy reading things in this forum. Makes me laugh and drives my stress away. Why dun u think that he should not know that Torres has left Liverpool. You mean everyone is as ignorant as you? Liverpool is a "big" club with history but no future so of course any tom, d*** and harry would have known that. The funny thing is that you actually wrote this on the forum embarassing yourself. Seriously, does anyone in this forum actually knows you personally?

If Mr Caroll does turn out to be as good as Shearer, even then, 35 million is not a bargain. Just to accentuate your ignorance, Mr Caroll was a panic buy and he was just worth 2 million pounds 2 years ago. You would have been lucky if he was good but you have just wasted money on someone who is not even worth half that at this point of time.

Ruthless? If he was ruthless, Woy would have been gone much earlier. Spent peanuts? You mean 300 million is only peanuts? Liverpool is not even worth half of Manchester United why would you think he actually spent peanuts.  You are talking about the transfer market I guess. Losing your tailsman for sureez who is considered a good player and Roy Caroll who is currently an unknown is good business. Seriously, even darren bent is worth much more then Roy Caroll as he is proven and has premier league experience and yet people are laughing that he actually gone to Aston Villa for 24 million. For someone who has only been on the big stage for 6 months you actually spent 35 million and you still think it is not a big mistake. Well goes to show how financial savvy you really are

Well , I guess loads are missing him even though who are not liverpool supporters who are secretly cursing him. I mean if you dun miss someone you would not even talk about him rite? Actually what is the problem with Torres leaving. He has already shown his disgrunt so it is obvious that he is going to leave sooner or later. I mean did he lie when he said that Liverpool are not winning trophies?
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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 01:55 PM)

Ruthless? If he was ruthless, Woy would have been gone much earlier. Spent peanuts? You mean 300 million is only peanuts? Liverpool is not even worth half of Manchester United why would you think he actually spent peanuts.  You are talking about the transfer market I guess. Losing your tailsman for sureez who is considered a good player and Roy Caroll who is currently an unknown is good business. Seriously, even darren bent is worth much more then Roy Caroll as he is proven and has premier league experience and yet people are laughing that he actually gone to Aston Villa for 24 million. For someone who has only been on the big stage for 6 months you actually spent 35 million and you still think it is not a big mistake. Well goes to show how financial savvy you really are

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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 01:55 PM)
HAHaHa. One word to say about liverpool supporters. Deluded and ignorant. Wearing a Torres tee on the street = 100 % Stupidity. Obviously no passion for the club and still have the cheek to write about it here. What does this say about u. The Ang Mo who is not a Liverpool supporter loves Liverpool more then you. What a joke. I really enjoy reading things in this forum. Makes me laugh and drives my stress away. Why dun u think that he should not know that Torres has left Liverpool. You mean everyone is as ignorant as you? Liverpool is a "big" club with history but no future so of course any tom, d*** and harry would have known that. The funny thing is that you actually wrote this on the forum embarassing yourself. Seriously, does anyone in this forum actually knows you personally?

If Mr Caroll does turn out to be as good as Shearer, even then, 35 million is not a bargain. Just to accentuate your ignorance, Mr Caroll was a panic buy and he was just worth 2 million pounds 2 years ago. You would have been lucky if he was good but you have just wasted money on someone who is not even worth half that at this point of time.

Ruthless? If he was ruthless, Woy would have been gone much earlier. Spent peanuts? You mean 300 million is only peanuts? Liverpool is not even worth half of Manchester United why would you think he actually spent peanuts.  You are talking about the transfer market I guess. Losing your tailsman for sureez who is considered a good player and Roy Caroll who is currently an unknown is good business. Seriously, even darren bent is worth much more then Roy Caroll as he is proven and has premier league experience and yet people are laughing that he actually gone to Aston Villa for 24 million. For someone who has only been on the big stage for 6 months you actually spent 35 million and you still think it is not a big mistake. Well goes to show how financial savvy you really are

Well , I guess loads are missing him even though who are not liverpool supporters who are secretly cursing him. I mean if you dun miss someone you would not even talk about him rite? Actually what is the problem with Torres leaving. He has already shown his disgrunt so it is obvious that he is going to leave sooner or later. I mean did he lie when he said that Liverpool are not winning trophies?
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Just report and ignore. Create new account to flame is already automatically a keyboard warrior. A real warrior won't hide behind a new account name and do stuff like this. He must have forget to bring his balls along to work/college.

Back to topic, I have a good feeling Dagger will be a Liverpool legend if KD stays and knows how good he is in supporting the front line with his runs. biggrin.gif
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True, wouldn't want the poor coward to post QQ in his facebook.

Anyway onwards to the Wigan game
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Anyone got any info for Liverpool visit to SG this year? date etc?
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TheArgumentMan. grow a pair and learn to post with your original nick fella..

I see your post was deleted, I know quite a number of civil and knowledgeable in here but quite frankly you sir are an embarrassment to the club you support. Roy Carroll laugh.gif

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oh dang. my fan's got deleted. probably ban hammered too while I was away for lunch.

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it's a nature of a troller to enjoy the attention, even if u reply his post by callin his mom as a b**ch, they still enjoy it... the more reply he gets, the more satisfy he'll be... so STOP responding to them...

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Now who made whose day brighter? So much of "What a joke. I really enjoy reading things in this forum. Makes me laugh and drives my stress away."

ROY CARROL HAHA!!! TheArgumentMan FTW!

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guys, let's discuss our formation for tomorrow's game.

since SG and Jonjo both get injured, maybe slightly changes on the midfield. what abt Joe Cole?

Recently, KD always surprise us with new formation.

Hopefully Suarez will be in starting XI.


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guys, who will play for next game?

I hope suarez will play.
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i hope suarez will play. believe he is geared up for his first full match
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Feb 11 2011, 03:27 PM)

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QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Feb 11 2011, 03:27 PM)
guys, who will play for next game?

I hope suarez will play.
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Kenny Dalglish remains hopeful Steven Gerrard will be fit for Saturday's clash with Wigan.

The Reds skipper withdrew from international duty after picking up a groin injury in the 1-0 win at Chelsea last weekend but the boss has not ruled him out of making a quick return to action against the Latics.

"It's only Thursday so we will find out as we get nearer to the weekend," Dalglish told his pre-match press conference.


I really hope SG can fully fit for Wigan's game.
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Isn't he away for international duties? or he didn't go?
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maybe KD wont risk SG for tomorrow match. we can see suarez plays tomorrow while Kuyt back to right wing. maybe Poulsen and Lucas start for 1st 11.

or Aurellio plays at SG position. everything possible in KD formation.
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shud put Kuyt instead;

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its wigan at home.. aiiyyooo
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Oh yeah, whatever happened to Joe Cole?
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QUOTE(ftptwistedclown @ Feb 11 2011, 03:43 PM)
haha i know our opponent. but which player will play?  icon_idea.gif
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I hope kelly and SG can play.

I think KD will let Suarez play because. all the other player have done international duty and maybe a bit tired. So a fresh pair of leg in front would be a plus.

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 03:48 PM)
Oh yeah, whatever happened to Joe Cole?
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haha i know our opponent. but which player will play?  icon_idea.gif
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actually gerrard play a free role..started on the right but cut inside when needed juz like in chelsea game
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16 more hours to go.

Hope this international break not affecting Liverpool. Wonder L. Suarez will starts or not.
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Feb 11 2011, 03:42 PM)
shud put Kuyt instead;

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i think lucas is a crap. any1 wit me? lol
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i think lucas is a crap. any1 wit me? lol
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sorry but i have to disagree with u. Maybe few seasons ago he was. if u looking at individual feat he might not as flashy or fluid as Alonso but he's a real fighter. Lucas to me is in the same category as Fletcher, Catermole. U might not even notice his contribution but if u watch closely, u will notice how much improvement he had in this few seasons.

Gerrard was out due to groin injury right? Liverpool can get a result against Wigan even without captain Marvel but prepare for a fight back from Wigan.
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Did anyone pick this one up yet? KD quotes.

"The supporters know where the staff and players loyalty lie. If supporters like myself, then that's not half as much as I like them"

If you also lurk in the RAWK forums, some claim that when asked what formation will we be playing he replied
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And he also supposedly quipped that Andy Carroll tried to claim Suarez' goal laugh.gif
Unlike some other managers' attempts at humour, methinks KD is genuinely funny!

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Something i wanna share with you guys....

King Kenny has returned~~~

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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 11 2011, 04:37 PM)
sorry but i have to disagree with u. Maybe few seasons ago he was. if u looking at individual feat he might not as flashy or fluid as Alonso but he's a real fighter. Lucas to me is in the same category as Fletcher, Catermole. U might not even notice his contribution but if u watch closely, u will notice how much improvement he had in this few seasons.

Gerrard was out due to groin injury right? Liverpool can get a result against Wigan even without captain Marvel but prepare for a fight back from Wigan.
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correct. safe type wit fletcher. dats y i said crap.

IMHO, his contribution is not up to d standard of highly top clubs.
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Feb 11 2011, 05:01 PM)
correct. safe type wit fletcher. dats y i said crap.

IMHO, his contribution is not up to d standard of highly top clubs.
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I used to critise Lucas a lot but this season, I have to eat humble pie because I think he's our most improved player. He has established himself as the link between our defenders and the midfielders.
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Something i wanna share with you guys....

King Kenny has returned~~~
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We will win all our remaining matches and strom into position number 4 when the season ends


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Lucas started from '-' (negative) .. even if he can reached '0' (zero)... it's still considered as a massive improvement... long way to go to be considered as a regular central midfielder for a top team... not bad but not the best! If his English is good he would've asked for transfer already after reading all the criticism against him...
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I am so tempted to rub it in... hmm... yeah why not? Not everyday do you get to say "Told you so!" to Duke and company.

I really like Lucas, he has always been the model 'pass and move' kinda player.

I am no scout, and my footie exposure is limited to the EPL and scraps of the La Liga at best, but I personally only know of one player that does what Lucas does better than Lucas and that is Fabregas laugh.gif Fabregas plays the same kind of short assured passes and has the same kind of movement off the ball... only he gets into more forward positions while Lucas prefers to patrol the middle of the park...

A midfield pairing of Lucas and Fabregas rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 05:27 PM)
I am so tempted to rub it in... hmm... yeah why not? Not everyday do you get to say "Told you so!" to Duke and company.

I really like Lucas, he has always been the model 'pass and move' kinda player.

I am no scout, and my footie exposure is limited to the EPL and scraps of the La Liga at best, but I personally only know of one player that does what Lucas does better than Lucas and that is Fabregas laugh.gif Fabregas plays the same kind of short assured passes and has the same kind of movement off the ball... only he gets into more forward positions while Lucas prefers to patrol the middle of the park...

A midfield pairing of Lucas and Fabregas rclxub.gif
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Also, judging by Lucas' tweets, he is a genuinely nice, down to earth kinda chap.

I doubt anyone hires a PR firm to write one's tweets laugh.gif



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yeah second that...in rafa era a lot of criticism has been thrown at him....
i think start from woy era he start to improve...ball winner & hardworking...
the best of him so far i think when we play against chelsea at home,we win 2-0

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 05:30 PM)
Also, judging by Lucas' tweets, he is a genuinely nice, down to earth kinda chap.

I doubt anyone hires a PR firm to write one's tweets laugh.gif
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Ok, hands up, i admit..i am not a fan of Lucas....but i do know he is is nice guy and a representative of what's good in the game today- down to earth, sleeves roll up, work hard and be a team player...

I do admit Lucas has improved. tremendously. But there is still a long way to go before he becomes a title-winning kind of midfielder...I hope he will...a nice role model..


Does that mean i can expect Poulsen to improve next year also? haha

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Lucas will be our MOST improved player for season 2010/2011

He will even have higher rating than Alonso Or Masch, watch him improve under KD and Steve Clarke (SC)


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 11 2011, 05:27 PM)
I am so tempted to rub it in... hmm... yeah why not? Not everyday do you get to say "Told you so!" to Duke and company.

I really like Lucas, he has always been the model 'pass and move' kinda player.

I am no scout, and my footie exposure is limited to the EPL and scraps of the La Liga at best, but I personally only know of one player that does what Lucas does better than Lucas and that is Fabregas laugh.gif Fabregas plays the same kind of short assured passes and has the same kind of movement off the ball... only he gets into more forward positions while Lucas prefers to patrol the middle of the park...

A midfield pairing of Lucas and Fabregas rclxub.gif
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I'm more than happy to be proven wrong.

At the time however he was a lemon and you have to call it like you see it.
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So Christian Eriksen does linked with a move to Liverpool after all.

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i dont blame lucas of his bad form before, it is because of defensive midfield is not his origin role, when he played at Gremio, he used to play same role as Gerard. also with lack of experience, different culture play, it is totally hard enough for him to adapt english play. but he is very tough guy, if fans critics alonso, masch or even torres, i'm sure they leave liverpool earlier. but different with lucas. hope he can still with us.
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QUOTE(low yat 82 @ Feb 11 2011, 05:01 PM)
correct. safe type wit fletcher. dats y i said crap.

IMHO, his contribution is not up to d standard of highly top clubs.
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Read this
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he has won alot of fans over for the past 2 years, with his passion and humility, contrast that with what torres did, he is a great player for us.



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hodgson has been appointed as wba manager...........suitable club for him
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There is no 30 day rule allowing the return of faulty goods bought in the january sales

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Grow some balls. Are you actually referring to  yourself. Then why are you doing such a cowardly act such as deleting my post. We do know who the real coward is. Using my real account? Are you retarded? I would not want to get my real account banned. I guess some people really cannot think. You guys are really not civilized and are incapable in engaging in debates. So what if I used a fake account. You have just shown that  you are incapable of holding a debate whether my account is real or fake. Seriously, I dun even take your posts seriously. In fact I laugh at every post i see here.


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How is Liverpool being valued at that price really boggles my mind. When it comes to marketing or on match day revenue or other revenue, they lag so far behind and yet they are being valued so highly. Seriously, they have been making huge loses recently and yet they are being valued so high. I guess they must have falsified their accounts. or there must be some hanky panky going on. BTW I am not a Man U fan. I am just using it as a reference. How can I be a fan of a bankrupt club
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sigh, if there's a good argument no harm writing using your own account.

anyway, i'll try to ignore all the trolls and flames and talk about other stuff.

suarez tweets as well and for all you twitters out there you'll be able to find him at luis16suarez.

now everyone be nice.
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Troll sure is hungry today. laugh.gif

Anyhoo, the match on saturday couldn't come soon enough! I like what KD said about giving their best in every match, and not take things for granted because the opponent's presumably a 'weaker' team.

This mentality will take the team far. biggrin.gif
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I am not a man u fan. But this show how insignificant the player is that I cannot even remember his name. You got a "virtual" unknown for 35 million pounds. Really good business.
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so u can open new thread in Football lounge about wolver then.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 06:50 PM)
At least I am not as retarded as you who cannot hold an argument properly but have to rely on cheap tactics. But I guess that is the value of your club rite
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if u have a personal problem just keep it to ur self....

kinda sick when see this kind of KB warrior+super troll.... doh.gif doh.gif

ah...btw ROY CAROLL FTW!!!
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ignore mode on ,previously report his nonsense post and he came and make some noises here.

Lucas is type of player Brazil need at the moment , a good DM that allow the brazillian to play the samba style.
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Just saw on @anfieldonline that Woy has been appointed as the new manager for WBA, and we'll be facing them on the 2nd of April laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leaF @ Feb 11 2011, 07:43 PM)
ignore mode on ,previously report his nonsense post and he came and make some noises here.

Lucas is type of player Brazil need at the moment , a good DM that allow the brazillian to play the samba style.
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In the same mould as Gilberto i reckon??
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 05:13 PM)
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he is good, but not great.he still needs more time..champion needs more than good. somethin like alonso / essien / makelele, or d more agressive type like roy keane.

d year i thought they r ready challenging for BPL, but..dats d year they sack rafa n appoint crappy roy...
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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 07:48 PM)
You sure have got a cheek to ask me to show manners when you dun show any manners to me. What manners do I need to show towards Liverpool Supporters who cannot think clearly. Personal problems. You mean you are having them? Did I ever hint in any of my threads as to whether I have any personal problems? I guess you really need to go and see a psychiatrist. You really have some mental issues.

I wun be wasting any of my time anymore but I promise to come back when you get relegated. Just watch this space.
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relegated??i dont think so...u really made my day....i mean really....
who do u think u are to judge that we will be relegated??HOWARD WEBB??
keep dreaming on that....[ok i want this space to be reserved for me too]
btw the one that should see psychiatrist is u coz u kenot keep ur feelings to ur self<--this ur personal problem & trolling here using a fake nick w*f*k??no balls or u just left it in ur washing machine when u wash ur pants....doh.gif doh.gif

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eh...woy appointed as WB head coach,good for him.... nod.gif

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QUOTE(TheArgumentMan @ Feb 11 2011, 07:48 PM)
You sure have got a cheek to ask me to show manners when you dun show any manners to me. What manners do I need to show towards Liverpool Supporters who cannot think clearly. Personal problems. You mean you are having them? Did I ever hint in any of my threads as to whether I have any personal problems? I guess you really need to go and see a psychiatrist. You really have some mental issues.

I wun be wasting any of my time anymore but I promise to come back when you get relegated. Just watch this space.
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u didn't answer my question huh wolver fans. smile.gif
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Grow some balls. Are you actually referring to  yourself. Then why are you doing such a cowardly act such as deleting my post. We do know who the real coward is. Using my real account? Are you retarded? I would not want to get my real account banned. I guess some people really cannot think. You guys are really not civilized and are incapable in engaging in debates. So what if I used a fake account. You have just shown that  you are incapable of holding a debate whether my account is real or fake. Seriously, I dun even take your posts seriously. In fact I laugh at every post i see here.


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How is Liverpool being valued at that price really boggles my mind. When it comes to marketing or on match day revenue or other revenue, they lag so far behind and yet they are being valued so highly. Seriously, they have been making huge loses recently and yet they are being valued so high. I guess they must have falsified their accounts. or there must be some hanky panky going on. BTW I am not a Man U fan. I am just using it as a reference. How can I be a fan of a bankrupt club
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ermm. i don't know what is the sudden issue here but at least u could use a better statement or words rather than attacking or making false accuse. Surely we can talk about just anything regarding Liverpool here but a more mature and polite discussion would have sufficed. I get your point by saying 'Roy' Carroll maybe overvalued but that already happen and now we only have to see the player himself the price tag slapped on him. Regarding Liverpool being on of the richest club maybe the people who come out with article measured Liverpool financial in different terms such as merchandise profits, sales ticket profits and bla bla bla but we would appreciate it if you could put your opinion in a more mature statement rather than attacking and accusing.
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Roy Carroll is good.... At least he's better than R.Green.


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Sorry if this is a repost.

Hodgson move to West Brom hot seat.

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QUOTE(Belphegor @ Feb 11 2011, 10:03 PM)
Sorry if this is a repost.

Hodgson move to West Brom hot seat.
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we're going to sign bojan krkic?
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we're going to sign bojan krkic?
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Liverpool To Submit €20 Million Summer Offer For Barcelona Striker Bojan Krkic - Report
Liverpool set for summer swoop for Barcelona striker Bojan Krkic.

Liverpool are set to launch a summer approach for Barcelona striker Bojan Krkic, according to reports from Spain.

Publication Sport comments that despite the Merseyside club adding two strikers in the January transfer window in the form of Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez, they remain on the hunt for attacking talent.

As a result, they have identified the Blaugrana product as a potential addition, and are willing to spend up to €20 million to prise the 20-year-old from the Camp Nou.

It is unlikely that current coach Pep Guardiola will want to part with a player that he sees playing a key role in the long-term future of the Catalan giants.

However, despite signing a new contract until 2015 and being given the number nine jersey, he has failed to impress on his rare first-team outings this season, scoring just three goals in eighteen appearances this season.






So far only Goal.com report about it so im not sure whether its true or not


Added on February 11, 2011, 11:38 pmEriksen not interested in Arsenal or Liverpool move


The Danish wonderkid Christian Eriksen had many admirers watching him during the match against England on Wednesday, including Liverpool’s chief scout Sammy Lee, amidst constant rumours that Kenny Dalglish would like the 18 year-old to move to Anfield.

Even one of his England opponents, the Arsenal winger Theo Walcott, admitted that he would be a great buy for Arsene Wenger. Walcott said: “He has a good touch. You can see he is technically gifted, very comfortable and doesn’t lose the ball that often.

“As for him coming to Arsenal, it’s a question to ask the boss – but he would be a great addition.” It was reported last year that Dennis Bergkamp, who trains Eriksen at Ajax, had recommended the youngster to Wenger and thinks it would help his progression if he moved to Arsenal.

But Eriksen himself rebuffed the rumours and emphasised that he is more than happy to spend the next five years at Ajax, and even then may not appreciate a move to England!

He was asked what he thought of the rumours after the game, which Denmark lost 2-1.

“Everytime Ajax play there are clubs watching me,” said Eriksen. “That’s just the way it is at Ajax. So yes, Liverpool have probably seen me, but I am not spending time wondering about it.

“If I had to think about speculations, I could do nothing else. No matter what, the Premier League is not the most obvious place for me to go.

“I’m not sure that I’ve got the physical ability to play there. Serie A or La Liga would suit me better but a change of clubs is not going to happen now.

“I think I’m going to play with Ajax until my contract expires in 2014.

“There are a lot of young players who are busy looking at other clubs but that’s not the way I think.

“There is still lots for me to learn and improve, and I can do that at Ajax, which is one of the best clubs in the world to develop talent.

“When it comes to that, I can’t be in a better place than where I am now.”

So it sounds like Arsenal and Liverpool would be better off deploying their scouts to look at other more accessible targets…..

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haha..King Kenny pick the safest answer rclxms.gif
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Now im watching Liv vs Wigan at channel 817.. For 2008/2009 season..

Really hope suarez can start for tomorrow match.. thumbup.gif

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Can't wait for the game tmrw smile.gif
I hope Suarez starts, and Gerrard as well.
Sitting in the Kop!
Will post a photo of my ticket tomorrow morning (UK time) smile.gif
Come on you reeeeedsssss biggrin.gif
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goal.com or not, i have always had a tingling sensation when some said Bojan. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(DayahKuComeL @ Feb 12 2011, 01:17 AM)
haha..King Kenny pick the safest answer rclxms.gif
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hoping that luis suarez will start tonight and score...
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 11 2011, 05:13 PM)
I used to critise Lucas a lot but this season, I have to eat humble pie because I think he's our most improved player. He has established himself as the link between our defenders and the midfielders.
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Soon or rather later, Lucas will play an integral part of the Liverpool team.. nod.gif
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rclxms.gif  Another young star forward ^^
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He is the Darren Fletcher at ManU  laugh.gif
Soon or rather later, Lucas will play an integral part of the Liverpool team.. nod.gif
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not soon, but now he is our main midfield.


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QUOTE(Max_07s @ Feb 12 2011, 12:25 PM)
he's good in football manager game. ehhehe. but his physical not suitable in BPL aggresive tempo.


Added on February 12, 2011, 12:25 pm

not soon, but now he is our main midfield.
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well, soon or rather later, Lucas is turning 24 already this year...

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liverpool is looking to sign Lorenzo Ebecelio from ajax...anyone heard anything about it?
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 12 2011, 03:24 PM)
liverpool is looking to sign Lorenzo Ebecelio from ajax...anyone heard anything about it?
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who the hell is he???..never heard of him...from ajax rather we sign cristian eriksen
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 12 2011, 03:44 PM)
who the hell is he???..never heard of him...from ajax rather we sign cristian eriksen
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he is a winger and only 19 years old..he is in dutch U21 side as well..i would appreciate if someone can tell us more about this fella
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The Chelsea boss Carlo Ancelotti was rumoured to be lining up the Rennes winger Sylvain Marveaux to replace Florent Malouda next season, as his contract with the Ligue 1 club runs out in June, but it has been revealed today that Marveaux has instead agreed a pre-contract with Liverpool.

The 24 year-old is currently injured, but his great record of 10 goals from the wing for Rennes last season had persuaded many teams to compete for Marveaux when he became available for a Bosman.

Marveaux was seen at Anfield in December for discussions, and it is being reported that Damien Comolli has now concluded the talks successfully and Marveaux will join Liverpool officially on July 1st this year.

Marveaux has had a troubling groin injury this season, and is scheduled to undergo an operation to fix it next week, so his next game is now certain to be for Liverpool next season.

Rennes general manager Peter Dreossi announced yesterday: “We will never see Sylvain Marveaux in the jersey of Stade Rennais again,”

“He has hardly played this season… Other players have taken his place and showed they are ready – Yacine Brahimi and Abdul Camara, for example.”

If Marveaux recovers well from his surgery he could have many good years ahad of him at Anfield.




if the story bout marveaux are true...I cant see we'll be going for this Lorenzo guy
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About to head up to liverpool in about 20 minutes smile.gif
Should be in the city around 1ish I reckon - and probably in the stadium by 2.30pm (UK time)

Here's a photo of my tickets as promised smile.gif

COME ON YOU REDSSSSS rclxms.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 4:43 pmHopefully both Gerrard and Suarez will start smile.gif

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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 12 2011, 04:42 PM)
About to head up to liverpool in about 20 minutes smile.gif
Should be in the city around 1ish I reckon - and probably in the stadium by 2.30pm (UK time)

Here's a photo of my tickets as promised smile.gif

COME ON YOU REDSSSSS  rclxms.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 4:43 pmHopefully both Gerrard and Suarez will start smile.gif
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have a great time bro!!
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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 12 2011, 04:42 PM)
About to head up to liverpool in about 20 minutes smile.gif
Should be in the city around 1ish I reckon - and probably in the stadium by 2.30pm (UK time)

Here's a photo of my tickets as promised smile.gif

COME ON YOU REDSSSSS  rclxms.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 4:43 pmHopefully both Gerrard and Suarez will start smile.gif
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So jealous, i wanna go too sad.gif

Anyway have an awesome time there yo! rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 12 2011, 04:42 PM)
About to head up to liverpool in about 20 minutes smile.gif
Should be in the city around 1ish I reckon - and probably in the stadium by 2.30pm (UK time)

Here's a photo of my tickets as promised smile.gif

COME ON YOU REDSSSSS  rclxms.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 4:43 pmHopefully both Gerrard and Suarez will start smile.gif
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38 pounds = RM180?

its not cheap man thumbup.gif
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maybe we shud organize a group of lyn forumer trip to anfield =D
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For those who cant afford a trip to Anfield...

Liverpool vs. Wigan Athletic
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maybe we shud organize a group of lyn forumer trip to anfield =D
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agreed nod.gif

need to know the budget for the trip. the flight ticket for 2 ways to UK roughly rm3k(air asia).

plus accomodation.







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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 12 2011, 04:42 PM)
About to head up to liverpool in about 20 minutes smile.gif
Should be in the city around 1ish I reckon - and probably in the stadium by 2.30pm (UK time)

Here's a photo of my tickets as promised smile.gif

COME ON YOU REDSSSSS  rclxms.gif


Added on February 12, 2011, 4:43 pmHopefully both Gerrard and Suarez will start smile.gif
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Nice. Post some pictures after the game. You're seated at the Kop? Sweet.

If you're taking a connecting flight via Dubai, you're looking at almost a full days worth of travel time. The journey is tiring and I reckon one should stay for at least 3 nights. Fly in a day before the game, visit the stores, watch the game the following day and tour Anfield the next. Reason being if you tour the stadium the day before a live game, they won't let you in the dressing room and tunni because the press will be setting their equipment up. Best to go the day after I reckon. I think you're looking at somewhere between RM 5 - 6 K in total.
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BREAKING NEWS.

Caroll and Suarez having a bust up in training ground. Suarez fist was seen drenching in blood. shocking.gif

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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Feb 12 2011, 05:53 PM)
agreed  nod.gif

need to know the budget for the trip. the flight ticket for 2 ways to UK roughly rm3k(air asia).

plus accomodation.
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We can stay in their traveler's hostel or something,which is a cheap accomodation biggrin.gif
We should really do this haha
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I have to agree too I want to go to anfield last time I when to UK I just pass through liverpool and anfield by bus. How about going next season when or before we win BPL hehe
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if we book now it will be cheap rite? i mean the flight and accommodation. dunno bout the tix price.
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right now u can just take Airasia to london and take a bus to Liverpool. the bus ride should be 40-50 quid. it just a matter of what you want to experience that will cost the doe. smile.gif
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big game awaits! cant wait to see ManU being ripped apart!
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big game awaits! cant wait to see ManU being ripped apart!
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take it easy pal...let's take a game at a step..let's ripped wigan tonite!!

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QUOTE(tape23 @ Feb 12 2011, 07:24 PM)
right now u can just take Airasia to london and take a bus to Liverpool. the bus ride should be 40-50 quid. it just a matter of what you want to experience that will cost the doe. smile.gif
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Haha nah it'd be a lot cheaper than that by bus. A return train ticket from london euston would be about £38 and takes 2 hours. I wouldn't recommend taking the bus because it'd take like 4 hours from london and you'll be really tired after - unless you're running on a really tight budget. I'd recommend to book a train but early. Book Atleast 3 weeks - 6 weeks before your journey.

If it's not a huge number of people I wouldn't mind volunteering to get you guys the tickets. But don't forget, the larger the number of people the less likely it is for tickets to be available.
Also, it's a lot easier to get tickets (especially for larger groups) if you pick a stand other than the Kop.

Anyway, let me know if you guys end up making plans as I'll be in the UK all year except for April, December and the summer.
Hope you guys end up going because it truly is a wonderful experience.
I remember my first game at anfield - Liverpool 1 - 1 Middlesbrough two seasons ago, we were down 0-1 when mido scored in the 70th minute.
Then carragher had a deflected shot go in on the 83rd minute. Then good ol' Stevie G scored on the 94th minute and anfield went wild tongue.gif

Still doesn't beat the Liverpool 4-4 Arsenal though, that was the most amazing experience, bloody arshavin!! tongue.gif

Hopefully Suarez starts and scores today, that'd be great smile.gif
COME ON YOU REDS biggrin.gif
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cant wait for more Dalglish magic today,cmon King Kenny show us the way to success! notworthy.gif i say LFC wins 3-0 tonite! flex.gif
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QUOTE(Burningsunz @ Feb 12 2011, 07:52 PM)
take it easy pal...let's take a game at a step..let's ripped wigan tonite!!
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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 12 2011, 08:11 PM)
Haha nah it'd be a lot cheaper than that by bus. A return train ticket from london euston would be about £38 and takes 2 hours. I wouldn't recommend taking the bus because it'd take like 4 hours from london and you'll be really tired after - unless you're running on a really tight budget. I'd recommend to book a train but early. Book Atleast 3 weeks - 6 weeks before your journey.

If it's not a huge number of people I wouldn't mind volunteering to get you guys the tickets. But don't forget, the larger the number of people the less likely it is for tickets to be available.
Also, it's a lot easier to get tickets (especially for larger groups) if you pick a stand other than the Kop.

Anyway, let me know if you guys end up making plans as I'll be in the UK all year except for April, December and the summer.
Hope you guys end up going because it truly is a wonderful experience.
I remember my first game at anfield - Liverpool 1 - 1 Middlesbrough two seasons ago, we were down 0-1 when mido scored in the 70th minute.
Then carragher had a deflected shot go in on the 83rd minute. Then good ol' Stevie G scored on the 94th minute and anfield went wild tongue.gif

Still doesn't beat the Liverpool 4-4 Arsenal though, that was the most amazing experience, bloody arshavin!! tongue.gif

Hopefully Suarez starts and scores today, that'd be great smile.gif
COME ON YOU REDS biggrin.gif
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lol well yea. was in the UK last 2 years and didnt get the chance to go up northwest. a friend reccomended me the bus though, but yea, someone told me the train was much more comforting. planning to go next season. i have a friend there workin as a dr. Nik Hazleigh.

anyways, ENJOY the KOP! YNWA
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-Reina-

-Kelly--Carragher--Kyrgiakos--Agger--Johnson-

-Gerrard--Lucas--Aurelio-

-Suarez--Kuyt--

any chance?


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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 12 2011, 08:29 PM)
-Reina-

        -Kelly--Carragher--Kyrgiakos--Agger--Johnson-

                    -Gerrard--Lucas--Aurelio-

                              -Suarez--Kuyt--

any chance?
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Swap him with Aurelio and it will be great...
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I don't see us playing 5 at the back again at home to Wigan. Reckon Suarez will be The extra body in attack.
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suarez will score again..and reina will keep his clean sheet streak
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Suarez! Suarez! Suarez! Come on Liverpool
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Luis Suarez makes his full Liverpool debut against Wigan Athletic at Anfield this afternoon - listen live online from 2.55pm.

The Uruguayan striker is handed his first Reds start in attack alongside Dirk Kuyt in a 4-4-2 formation, though Steven Gerrard misses out through injury.

Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Johnson, Maxi, Meireles, Lucas, Aurelio, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Wilson, Poulsen, Pacheco, Jovanovic, Ngog.
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QUOTE(fullmetal90 @ Feb 12 2011, 10:09 PM)

Liverpool: Reina, Kelly, Carragher, Skrtel, Johnson, Maxi, Meireles, Lucas, Aurelio, Kuyt, Suarez. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Wilson, Poulsen, Pacheco, Jovanovic, Ngog.
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Looks good. Carragher as captain or Reina?
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Added on February 12, 2011, 11:23 pmhim again...

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Miereles again...goall
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Should be a comfortable win for us..close the gap with Spurs. Hope Black Cats beat Spurs..
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shit..suarez shot kena tiang!
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its not 90 mins yet. Pray for good goal margin for a cushion!
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i've seen enough of Luiz to convince me he will be a glorious player for us...dangerous and full of confidence...

Oh Torres...you've could have benefited from such an intelligent player...

oh well, Carroll will benefit from it...
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Meirelles is our goal machine now. Lets hope Suarez will also score in his starting debut.
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wish him best at west brom

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as usual our midfield sux...we must got hold of the ball more in order to make dangerous moves..thank god our defense is good



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Meireles knows how to take advantages in a messy situation. Really, he has a poacher's instincts.
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QUOTE(nando @ Feb 12 2011, 11:31 PM)
i've seen enough of Luiz to convince me he will be a glorious player for us...dangerous and full of confidence...

Oh Torres...you've could have benefited from such an intelligent player...

oh well, Carroll will benefit from it...
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not happy with what i am seeing......living dangerously...hopefully a 2nd will come soon...
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Caldwell missed the victory over Blackburn at the weekend because of the injury, but was given permission to train with the Scotland



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1-1..fakk
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fakk man... comeon pick it up liverpool!
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does he get any endorsement to use that, like Cech?
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Lucas is not performing well tonite... goshhh
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Most of them are making ridiculous errors. =.= including the linesman. shit lah. Come on come on liverpool. Come on Come on Suarez!
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omgwtfbbq kena tiang again!!!
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Suarez..twice tiang..what a day..
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The passing today has been really horrible.. Come on! fire up liverpool! Fire up Anfield!
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arghhhhhhhhhh.... come onnnnnnn...
10minits more...
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To be honest, dont mean to be jinx or anything but KK made blunder with Ngog. He really is more of a poacher. I hardly find him to run into a position, now i only see-ing him passing and waiting right at the exact same spot.
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errors are good. Means we need to rectify them.
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1-1 ..waste 2 point..
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Very disappointed today.. Best player of the game was suarez. Passing from liverpool was absolutely horrible! Sighhhhh!!!!!! Lucas really made too much errors. Disappointing result. Jovanovic ball control fakk man. Noob shit.

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it's just not our luck tonite. but still a good effort till d end..
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I dont see the pass n move maneuver this time around..just hoof and hope for the best..what are the players really thinking? carroll is not on the pitch yet..
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gutted with the draw today seems suarez hit the woodwork twice but wigan worth a point!
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guys, i barely watch the game...

what actually went wrong to our side?

who's the flop? was suarez perform tonite?
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Wigan played very well today...


We need another 1-2 more potent attackers. Clearly Suarez is class. But Jova, Ngog, Maxi are quite ordinary players...few runs and passes here and there but nothing `deadly' about them...

hopefully Carroll will provide the answer....

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maybe they think can win chelsea at stanford bridge then wigan at home will be peace of cake. overconfident and simply play resulting in terrible performance
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This could be the result of our captain and agger not being arround. Defense was always open in the middle, Don't know why. KD made an error by subbing out meireles and bringing in jovanovic ( no ball control at all! )
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ngog sucks

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we just cannot score from corner....set piece very2 poor...why maxi take fk instead of suarez? sad.gif
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overall ,we just dont have luck today..
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Critic is because it's the truth by how they performed today. Ko x tengok country lain kritik ke?
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damn draw. unlucky suarez and those shitty pose
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bah, what luck not to win this game. true though the players are playing badly
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i can see Suarez not have full stamina yet. Draw..!! nevermind blush.gif
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simple as this, we dont have many quality players

Jova, Maxi, Ngog...all are typical players

Hopefully KD can sort this off by next season

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The draw was a fair result though we really should have been more clinical in front of goal. Suarez showed a high work ethic which endeared him to the crowd. Good close control and always a handful to contain. Unlucky not to have scored.

King Kenny kept to his word and has given everyone in the first team a run now, with the introduction of N'Gog and Jovanovich although neither made any significant contribution.

We lacked creativity in the middle tonight especially after Mereiles was pulled off and Aurelio was thrust into a central role. We kept having to play the ball out to wide areas.

We made ground on City at least. Let's see if Sunderland can hold Spurs.
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may i know which manager bought jovanovic to liverpool?
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wasnt a bad game guys..we played really good especially during the first half..wigan played well too..with a little bit of luck, we could have win it..

the play changed since we sub out meireles and kuyt..we just couldnt score and stop wigan's attack confidently..
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jova, uncle rafa bring him!
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btw i can see the different between team with torres & team without him...of course he can do some 'magic'...but most of time his work rate is awful...he more depends on individual skill rather than teamwork...btw, if you notice, we will lost ball when caragher made long passing...he tends to do that...all player tends to made short passing except for him
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i think some of the players are tired.. maybe due to the international match.
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if Sunderland can hold Spurs, then its status quo for us, it would be better if Sunderland can beat them, which is unlikely doh.gif
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Miss Torres? Hard to do so when Suarez played so well. Like Shamsul said, Torres' work ethic was poor when he was sulking. Suarez was tracking back, showed good close control, was quick on the turn each time the ball was played into him, drew free kicks in dangerous positions, plus he hit the post twice. When was the last time Torres did all that?
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Oh.. Why KD sub Meireles with Ngog doh.gif doh.gif
After that our midfield has gone AWOL until the last 10 minutes.. haishh...
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Jova shouldn't be brought into the match...I doubt if he loses his football tactics.

Pity Suarez twice hit bar.
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if Sunderland can hold Spurs, then its status quo for us, it would be better if Sunderland can beat them, which is unlikely doh.gif
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i have no idea why KD will sub kuyt the ironman off for ngog / jova..
pacheco > jova & ngog

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Ngog, Jova rclxub.gif

Don't know why King wanna substitute these two guys on the pitch shakehead.gif
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on positive note, Suarez had 90minutes smile.gif. The rest were rested for UEFA cup i think. not a bad game but we really really need a natural left footed winger... glen had nothing to contribute playing left and lucas really gave me heart attack few times with his dilly dally and caught in few situations (Dunga's replacement??)... overall, good game with not much luck smile.gif
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QUOTE(�resentScythe @ Feb 13 2011, 01:15 AM)
i have no idea why KD will sub kuyt the ironman off for ngog / jova..
pacheco > jova & ngog

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Sunderland is one Team tat can hav a fair chance to beat Spurs and we can overtake them later on

On the other hand Spurs can pip us to the forth spot if they win this encounter bearing in mind tat we win all our remaining matches from the next game onwards

but i hope they wont score and the final result is nil nil


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QUOTE(�resentScythe @ Feb 13 2011, 01:15 AM)
i have no idea why KD will sub kuyt the ironman off for ngog / jova..
pacheco > jova & ngog

and maxi is shitt too rclxub.gif
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A lot of the lads played in the midweek international fixtures.

I don't blame Dalglish for using his full squad, especially since so many were away on international duty. People forget that N'Gog began the season with a bang. If my count is accurate, he has 7 goals to his name so far this season.
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i for one dun want sunderland to win,let spurs beat chelski to top 4 if we cant,and we just unlucky not to score 2nd goal,the wigan goal was weak defending from us again,should hv deal with the ball di,but to be fair wigan play good game oso
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I'll reserve my thought for Jova, but honestly, Ngog and Lucas aren't worth first team.. Perhaps Lucas is improving this season, but he's clearly no Masc, Xabi, or even Dunga doh.gif doh.gif

Meireles is more like Xabi, so we need another Masch.. hope we'll find one in the summer..
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Meireles looks uncomfortable, that's why he's been subbed.
Kuyt looks tired, when he can't make those run to all over the places, then he's no good anymore, that's why he's been subbed.
Too bad there's no replacement for Lucas, he should has been taken out too..

Top performer:
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Worst performer:
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 13 2011, 01:21 AM)
Sunderland is one Team tat can hav a fair  chance to beat Spurs and we can overtake them later on

On the other hand Spurs can pip us to the forth spot if they win this encounter bearing in mind tat we win all our remaining matches from the next game onwards

but i hope they wont score and the final result is  nil nil
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Still yeah, i remain quiet when Lucas was playing contentfully well. But it shows that you can't give much media hype or this boy will go over-confident with himself.
Still, may prove me wrong, but the only thing i see thats still not there, is a special ability for him to be a starting 11 material.
Don't get me wrong when im targeting it at Lucas, other players too didn't show up today and deserve some critiscm too.

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ok i understand why liaw

just 4 more days to our next europe game @ czech

but wasted 2 pts cry.gif cry.gif

the goal from wigan which was clearly a off-side position but still counted in...zz
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Hw was Suarez full debut? Dint get to watch it...
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In the past few games, kuyt isn't a really good passer. Really poor when we're counter atking. Lucas makes a blunder most of the time behind the midfield line. Always taking his sweet time to spot a pass. No pace at all, not deadly at all during set pieces ( corner ) Overall wigan had tons of luck ( offside goal ) Jovanovic is a fail player, joe cole > maxi ? What a bad night..
Suarez's a fantastic player, he creates chances, very deadly as well. Can't wait to see carroll + suarez combo.

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Our failure to secure 2 goal cushion has cost us 3 points. But we did put enough effort. Kuyt slowed down our attack
in one or two occasions. I would have sub him before Merieles. But I guess his work rate is too important for the team.

Jova is not good enough to be on the pitch. I would rather have Johnson as winger ahead of him anytime.

Luck is not on our side today. Few players who were involved in international friendlies looked tired.
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I agree that Kuyt and Maxi both had quiet games but what did Lucas do wrong? I thought he did a good job anchoring the midfield. Wigan always looked dangerous going forward and I think Lucas gave an energetic performance and made a nuisance of himself. His wasn't a fancy role but it was important nonetheless. Kinda reminds me like how some didn't see how good Didi was.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Feb 13 2011, 01:35 AM)
I agree that Kuyt and Maxi both had quiet games but what did Lucas do wrong? I thought he did a good job anchoring the midfield. Wigan always looked dangerous going forward and I think Lucas gave an energetic performance and made a nuisance of himself. His wasn't a fancy role but it was important nonetheless. Kinda reminds me like how some didn't see how good Didi was.
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Lucas seems lost when Meireles went out, lost a lot of possession.. Kuyt is not his oldself anymore.. He still energetic but getting slower, and somehow lost his touch (passing ability).. Not sure why..

Honestly, we lost the midfield battle when Meireles went out.. And the worst part is, Ngog replacing him.. Only in the final 10 minutes we get our midfield back, but then Wigan has already decided for one point only.. sad.gif
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He was good getting the ball back, but often takes too long to spot a pass and not aware of the surroundings ( opposition players )
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Love or hate, Lucas?
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Feb 13 2011, 01:40 AM)
Oh.. I favoured Didi over Lucas anytime!!
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Lucas far way better.. becos Didi now almost reaching 40's... the safest answer from me...  icon_idea.gif
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none of u guys said Wigan are parking the bus in front of their goal, and rely on Nzogbia to do counter attack on us..
it's normal for a mid-team like Wigan playing defensively once they got a goal. to them, a draw could be more than satisfaction....
it's totally different when we're with uncle Woy before that, our opponents really dun afraid of us and we keep conceding goal that time..
no offence guys, it just that we dun have a luck tonite. we did okay, kept possesion, a lot of shot on n off target...
but luck wasn't with us.. that's the conclusion..

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we certainly did not play very good in the 2nd half...i agree with kenny about bringing meireles off..as you can see in 2nd half everytime meireles got the ball wigan players close down on him very fast..
Liverpool build up play was good, just that they cant seems to find their finishing moves..we were unlucky not to be winning even though we play faily bad today but judging by how luck was not on our side this is not a bad result.

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Okay, so a draw wasn't the result we wanted. but, no Gerrard, no Agger, and Wigan have been a jinx side for us over many seasons.
ask yourselves this, if somebody said 2 months ago that our next 5 games would be WON 4, DRAWN 1, LOST 0 (Manyoo lost was exception for KD), only 1 goal conceded, i think we would all have reached for the nearest bottle and laughed.
the turn around has been dramatic, look at the bigger picture, this is the same side (apart from Suarez cameos) that couldn't put 3 passes together before.
if we can get into Champion League next season, then it could be a Bonus for us.
But the Real challenge for the top will begin after this season is over.
so keep the faith....
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i tot wigan was realllllly lucky!..their goal was offside!...and 2 shot from suarez hits the bar...on another day we should win this game comfortably...but today wasnt our day..i know its not the best liv performance,but i think we do enough to win the game after that stupid international frenly on midweek
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 13 2011, 01:33 AM)
Hw was Suarez full debut? Dint get to watch it...
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he hit to post twice too. wink.gif
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maybe i'm watching a different game because i think lucas not as bad as you guys described. one draw game.. its not like we lost. wigan always a boogey team for us. the team didn't play that bad. after meireles taken out (injury?) we lost the playmaker thus losing the midfield. we resorted to long ball from defense.

suarez did ok.. he was lively and always wanted the ball. now i kinda understand why ajax fans describe his style as 'fumble football' smile.gif unlucky to not get a goal today.
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QUOTE(bearbear @ Feb 13 2011, 02:27 AM)
not bad i would say, some lose passing but ya he looked decent.

he hit to post twice too. wink.gif
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Disappointed that the boys didn't bag the full 3 points, but at the same time I have to give credit to wigan; they really put up a tough fight tonight.

Now it's time take what we can from this game, and move onto the next game with full efforts! laugh.gif
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Kuyt is having a bad day today. He was off the pace. Unlucky Suarez hits the post twice. Wigan were lucky to score and not to be one man short but to be honest we were flat in the middle of the 2nd half. Disappointing player on the pitch has to be Kuyt.
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Feb 13 2011, 01:55 AM)
none of u guys said Wigan are parking the bus in front of their goal, and rely on Nzogbia to do counter attack on us..
it's normal for a mid-team like Wigan playing defensively once they got a goal. to them, a draw could be more than satisfaction....
it's totally different when we're with uncle Woy before that, our opponents really dun afraid of us and we keep conceding goal that time..
no offence guys, it just that we dun have a luck tonite. we did okay, kept possesion, a lot of shot on n off target...
but luck wasn't with us.. that's the conclusion..
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the International friendly spoilt our good run

wat the fak did FIFA do this international friendly doh.gif

really stupid of FIFA to interrupt the smooth flow of the domestic league matches

hope this Sepp Blatter gets substituted soon

and btw, Sunderland lost cool2.gif
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Sunderland lost?good then!really hope Spurs beat chelski to top 4 if we cant,no CL for torres next season,Europa for him again LMAO
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so Liverpool is a mid-team last week?  hmm.gif
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I watch the game. I felt we were a bit out luck because Suarze 2 shot hit the post. else we have won the game but that's football the ball is round and anything can happen. on the plus side we did get a point and still climbing to the to four. A great game from KD Side. Hope we have more luck against Sparta next Thursday.
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missed the game... a draw at home is not ideal i guess. but at least we maintain our unbeaten run. happy.gif
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i think besides raul is the best player, suarez is the best player on the pitch. always look sharp and always look hungry. i seriously think that liverpool should buy some good winger in the summer. we lack of fast pace and creative winger to feed the ball into the box.
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give lucas and kuyt a break. travelling abroad and playing 90 mins (45mins with 10man-lucas) and 75mins(kuyt) on wednesday isnt ideal. u cant expect the players to perform week in week out all the time. nobody does that. even top teams have lacklustre days, barcelona drew after a 16 match winning streak, so does that means they played are entitled to criticism ? what defines a champion is being able to win games tho not playing well n i hope we are slowly building towards that.. the introduction of ngog and jova was becaused they played the full90 mins in the reserve game with the former netting twice. what frustrates me is pacheco not given a chance.. i thought to me myself, 20mins, give the boy a chance to provide some spark.. a chance to prove himself in front of the own crowd, instead of jova who imo doesnt seem to made the cut here in bpl is introduced.. if shelvey n kelly is getting lotsa mins and experience, pacheco should too unless kenny doesnt fancy him.

suarez looked lack match fitness as expected but he was so unlucky. if the freekick would have gone in, i'm sure us liv fans would have found a new hero wink.gif

the games comes fast, next up, sparta prague on thursday smile.gif
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QUOTE(-nana- @ Feb 13 2011, 11:57 AM)
give lucas and kuyt a break. travelling abroad and playing 90 mins (45mins with 10man-lucas) and 75mins(kuyt) on wednesday isnt ideal. u cant expect the players to perform week in week out all the time. nobody does that. even top teams have lacklustre days, barcelona drew after a 16 match winning streak, so does that means they played are entitled to criticism ? what defines a champion is being able to win games tho not playing well n i hope we are slowly building towards that.. the introduction of ngog and jova was becaused they played the full90 mins in the reserve game with the former netting twice. what frustrates me is pacheco not given a chance.. i thought to me myself, 20mins, give the boy a chance to provide some spark.. a chance to prove himself in front of the own crowd, instead of jova who imo doesnt seem to made the cut here in bpl is introduced.. if shelvey n kelly is getting lotsa mins and experience, pacheco should too unless kenny doesnt fancy him.

suarez looked lack match fitness as expected but he was so unlucky. if the freekick would have gone in, i'm sure us liv fans would have found a new hero  wink.gif

the games comes fast, next up, sparta prague on thursday  smile.gif
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i lol at some forumers who was holding their criticism and lash it out when lucas play deservedly dissent last night, wasnt that typically great but when u consider he just came back from an international duty, u should at least understood the situation..

this season apart from meireles goals n contribution, lucas is there, best player so far for liverpool this season, i guess for being that good, 1 silly poor game is unacceptable by some
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QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Feb 13 2011, 01:39 AM)
Lucas seems lost when Meireles went out, lost a lot of possession.. Kuyt is not his oldself anymore.. He still energetic but getting slower, and somehow lost his touch (passing ability).. Not sure why..

Honestly, we lost the midfield battle when Meireles went out.. And the worst part is, Ngog replacing him.. Only in the final 10 minutes we get our  midfield back, but then Wigan has already decided for one point only.. sad.gif
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Judge too quickly..
Dirk Kuyt played his international game at mid-week weih...
Of course there will be fatigue accumulated...
That explains your "not sure why" smile.gif

QUOTE(fenzodahl512 @ Feb 13 2011, 01:40 AM)
Oh.. I favoured Didi over Lucas anytime!!
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Lucas did okay lar! thumbup.gif
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cant u guys give the considerations for their international duty? brazil played with 10men including lucas. and now u guys bashing his form? chill guys. he did seriously well.
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QUOTE(RyanHo @ Feb 13 2011, 01:56 PM)
cant u guys give the considerations for their international duty? brazil played with 10men including lucas. and now u guys bashing his form? chill guys. he did seriously well.
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Plz sell Maxi jovanovic,ngog,poulsen.Raise the 10million added to the owners budget to buy charlie adam,ashley young and arda turan.The current squad wont perform even if mourinho or ferguson is the manager, sweat.gif
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i disagree ngog is playing badly yesterday. he was creating space and chances.

i was only dissappointed in maxi and kuyt yesterday, especially maxi. kuyt might had a burnout from the wednesdays friendly but maxi was fresh. instead of putting maxi, i'd rather we play dani pacheco yesterday, coz i think he'll do a great job in creating chances.
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Maxi is garbage.Players like maxi are why we always fall short of united.

united always have someone who comes up with the goods

even when rooney or berbaflop is not playing well,nani or hernandez scores.

We really should sell off ngog.brings nothing to the team.
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nothing? Ngog's goals for us are priceless!
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We need someone who can come up with the goods when we are not performing,

just like how manc win games ugly.otherwise we can dream on for the next 20 years about winning the league.

torres made the right decision to go to chelsea.We always win against these big teams and the next week,we lose or draw

pretty much the story of the club for the past 10years.

but i excuse this game as agger,gerrard,carrol,cole were injured as well as meireles was ill.and those stupid internationals.

Btw what the hell is joe cole doing?missing for more than a month
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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 13 2011, 03:20 PM)
Maxi is garbage.Players like maxi are why we always fall short of united.

united always have someone who comes up with the goods

even when rooney or berbaflop is not playing well,nani or hernandez scores.

We really should sell off ngog.brings nothing to the team.
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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 13 2011, 03:38 PM)
We need someone who can come up with the goods when we are not performing,

just like how manc win games ugly.otherwise we can dream on for the next 20 years about winning the league.

torres made the right decision to go to chelsea.We always win against these big teams and the next week,we lose or draw

pretty much the story of the club for the past 10years.

but i excuse this game as agger,gerrard,carrol,cole were injured as well as meireles was ill.and those stupid internationals.

Btw what the hell is joe cole doing?missing for more than a month
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I think currently Liverpool is on the process of recovery. I didn't watch the game last night during the 2nd half as i fell asleep during the half time anaysis.

sometimes players have their own day off which they played badly and not up to standard. Surely the fans would want players step up and deliver in every game they play but reality is like that. Maybe Maxi had a bad game yesterday. Surely it's a waste for Liverpool not to wrap all 3 points especially when at home turf but i'm sure they will come back strong next game.

As for Ngog, he's not featured in the first team for a long period therefore it is quite understandable for him not performing well. other than that he's been good.

Cole still training with the reserve if i'm not mistaken.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 13 2011, 03:50 PM)
I think currently Liverpool is on the process of recovery. I didn't watch the game last night during the 2nd half as i fell asleep during the half time anaysis.

sometimes players have their own day off which they played badly and not up to standard. Surely the fans would want players step up and deliver in every game they play but reality is like that. Maybe Maxi had a bad game yesterday. Surely it's a waste for Liverpool not to wrap all 3 points especially when at home turf but i'm sure they will come back strong next game.

As for Ngog, he's not featured in the first team for a long period therefore it is quite understandable for him not performing well. other than that he's been good.

Cole still training with the reserve if i'm not mistaken.
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Forget about other players.Maxi doesn deserve to be in the team.At least kuyt scores and makes through passes.

Maxi is not only bad in this game,he is crap in the previous.Imagine if meireles didn score against chelsea,everybody will be calling for maxi's head.

If we are happy wit this kind of players,then we are doomed.it also confirms the liverpool fans are delusional and will never win the league for the next few years.

As much as i love the club,i cant stand rubbish players like maxi or jovanovic.its been going on for the past ten years and i am sick of it.Just sick of it. shakehead.gif

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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 13 2011, 04:02 PM)
Forget about other players.Maxi doesn deserve to be in the team.At least kuyt scores and makes through passes.

Maxi is not only bad in this game,he is crap in the previous.Imagine if meireles didn score against chelsea,everybody will be calling for maxi's head.

If we are happy wit this kind of players,then we are doomed.it also confirms the liverpool fans are delusional and will never win the league for the next few years.

As much as i love the club,i cant stand rubbish players like maxi or jovanovic.its been going on for the past ten years and i am sick of it.Just sick of it. shakehead.gif
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All free players are crap.Liverpool dont seem to learn this lesson

Voronin,jovanovic,degen and if joe cole fails,add him to the list.
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Yesterday was not a good performance, Wigan got more dangerous attack several occassion.

But with a little bit of luck, Liv can win the game, with Suarez hit the post in the first half and hit the cross bar in second half. Poor finishing and final third passing.
Wasted freekick in good position.
Somemore, Wigan goal was clearly offside, other than that, Reina has not much to do.
Even though Reina has nothing much to do, it was a poor performance, and lack of spark in general.
Players simply look jaded.

A big disappointment, when watching the game.
But positive note is that Liv is scoring in every match now since after KD took over.

No more PL game until end of the month for Liv.
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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 13 2011, 04:20 PM)
Maxi is garbage.Players like maxi are why we always fall short of united.

united always have someone who comes up with the goods

even when rooney or berbaflop is not playing well,nani or hernandez scores.

We really should sell off ngog.brings nothing to the team.
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agree. but on the other side, rafa responsible for buying the players.

this is the list of players we shud sell end of season

1)maxi
2)jova
3)ngog

with the money, we can get best winger like a.young, johnson or adam

i didnt expect very much for this season as this is the only choice KD has for the team.




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Hm... i have to agree on selling Maxi and jova. Maxi player bad yesterday and even when I have my Fifa 11 using maxi played just as bad as the real one. but ngog is okay for a backup striker. but we have a young Eccleston just don't loan this guy and sell him. I hope summer transfer we can get more better player replacing them.
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Having Maxi, Jova and Cole is better than having NOTHING when it comes to squad depth.

True, that we're very reliant on a non-rotated first team (and here we are, if triggered we're going to rant about having rotation basis).

As far as I have noticed, Meireles will get subbed now and then, together with the strikers if there's a need of a pressing game.

Somehow the pattern here is that defenses don't get switched, but rather there's a "LINE UP 1" and "Line UP 2" selection (heavily based on tactics) and from what I can see, the real issue is having the balls flowing from defense->midfield->strikers in reference to the 'tailor' designs.

I'm not sure if I'm the only person that notes this, but KD has never played the same 11 players in the same formation. There's always a tailor to the needs, with exception of injuries and illegible players.
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I dunno about you guys but I guess it's about time to stop comparing player in game with player in real life. Kinda ridiculous, no?
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But yesterday he was rubbish,shouldn't switch Raul with him.
Frankly speaking we weren't playing quite well yesterday,our first touches were out of place and quite a lot of misunderstanding passes.

It's okay though,a draw is better than a lost.

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QUOTE(darth6 @ Feb 13 2011, 09:00 PM)
But yesterday he was rubbish,shouldn't switch Raul with him.
Frankly speaking we weren't playing quite well yesterday,our first touches were out of place and quite a lot of misunderstanding passes.

It's okay though,a draw is better than a lost.
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the reason kenny sub meireles because he is sick. you can read it here:

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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 13 2011, 03:20 PM)
Maxi is garbage.Players like maxi are why we always fall short of united.

united always have someone who comes up with the goods

even when rooney or berbaflop is not playing well,nani or hernandez scores.

We really should sell off ngog.brings nothing to the team.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 13 2011, 07:39 PM)
I dunno about you guys but I guess it's about time to stop comparing player in game with player in real life. Kinda ridiculous, no?
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Ngog is our weapon for Europa, so is Pacheco

btw, Woy is perhaps the ONLY LFC Manager tat is undefeated in Europa matches
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 13 2011, 02:03 AM)
why was Pacheco not used? doh.gif
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because Pacheco is freaking good and he is Young, google his feat b4 you blast me dude
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Feb 13 2011, 09:00 PM)
x abis2 Pacheco Pacheco dari dulu....kalau betul budak tu terrer xdenya Benitez, RH & Kenny x bagi dia main doh.gif
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but i think, pacheco will be valuable if we continue play pass & move because this kid have talent for this style of play...he has talent but not ready yet...maybe tactical awareness is still poor
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Dani Pacheco EU Under 19s Compilation- Golden Boot

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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Feb 13 2011, 09:00 PM)
x abis2 Pacheco Pacheco dari dulu....kalau betul budak tu terrer xdenya Benitez, RH & Kenny x bagi dia main doh.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 13 2011, 10:13 PM)
Dani Pacheco EU Under 19s Compilation- Golden Boot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nE14YqFwvY
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Yeah I did aware about his reputation with his international team but it must be something wrong in training ground when someone like N'Gog get ahead of you sweat.gif
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Think one of the major drawback will be his built which it seems is too slender to handle BPL defenders, so is Suso. Both of them looks like under nourish kids compare to BPL defenders
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QUOTE(vreis @ Feb 13 2011, 09:45 PM)
Think one of the major drawback will be his built which it seems is too slender to handle BPL defenders, so is Suso. Both of them looks like under nourish kids compare to BPL defenders
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samir nasri looks under nourish kids..he's not that bad is he??...fabregas is not that big either..lets not go into luka modric shall we..sorry bro i'm juz sick & tired with all these small slender slim player not suitable for EPL crap! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Feb 13 2011, 05:31 PM)
Yesterday was not a good performance, Wigan got more dangerous attack several occassion.

But with a little bit of luck, Liv can win the game, with Suarez hit the post in the first half and hit the cross bar in second half. Poor finishing and final third passing.
Wasted freekick in good position.
Somemore, Wigan goal was clearly offside, other than that, Reina has not much to do.
Even though Reina has nothing much to do, it was a poor performance, and lack of spark in general.
Players simply look jaded.

A big disappointment, when watching the game.
But positive note is that Liv is scoring in every match now since after KD took over.

No more PL game until end of the month for Liv.
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maybe it is because they lost their creative spark when Meireles was subbed. With Gerrard injured, surely the players relied on Meireles for the creative spark. With joe Cole nowhere in KD plan, Liverpool might facing a shortage of creative players.

QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Feb 13 2011, 07:22 PM)
Having Maxi, Jova and Cole is better than having NOTHING when it comes to squad depth.

True, that we're very reliant on a non-rotated first team (and here we are, if triggered we're going to rant about having rotation basis).

As far as I have noticed, Meireles will get subbed now and then, together with the strikers if there's a need of a pressing game.

Somehow the pattern here is that defenses don't get switched, but rather there's a "LINE UP 1" and "Line UP 2" selection (heavily based on tactics) and from what I can see, the real issue is having the balls flowing from defense->midfield->strikers in reference to the 'tailor' designs.

I'm not sure if I'm the only person that notes this, but KD has never played the same 11 players in the same formation. There's always a tailor to the needs, with exception of injuries and illegible players.
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hmmm. i'm not quite get the point you're trying to highlight here. is it like LINE UP 1 defence = kelly, Carra, SKrtel, Johnson and LINE UP 2 defence = Johnson, Kgryakos, Agger, Aurelio?

The real issue u're trying to highlight is there is no player capable of linking defence and attack such as what the likes of Makelele and Scholes are doing, is it? sorry, me quite slow in trying to understand what are u trying to point at. sweat.gif rclxub.gif

QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 13 2011, 07:39 PM)
I dunno about you guys but I guess it's about time to stop comparing player in game with player in real life. Kinda ridiculous, no?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 13 2011, 08:39 PM)
Respect, Unity, Trust, Patience

Although someone will probably have to remind me of that too the next time Poulsen has a bad game and I start hurling pleasantries at him!
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 13 2011, 10:36 PM)
samir nasri looks under nourish kids..he's not that bad is he??...fabregas is not that big either..lets not go into luka modric shall we..sorry bro i'm juz sick & tired with all these small slender slim player not suitable for EPL crap! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Sifha238 @ Feb 13 2011, 09:16 PM)
Yeah I did aware about his reputation with his international team but it must be something wrong in training ground when someone like N'Gog get ahead of you sweat.gif
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Well we have quite a number of promising player such as pacheco,suso,sterling,ayala,shelvey and david amoo who can produce magic in the pitch..hopefully we can see them in action soon but let's not rush them into action..we got to make sure they are ready..





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Somehow something got lost in translation! I'm hardly running out of patience, the small worded part was merely me chastising myself for picking on Poulsen earlier this season... although he is still remains subpar at best in my books!
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QUOTE(darth6 @ Feb 13 2011, 08:00 PM)
But yesterday he was rubbish,shouldn't switch Raul with him.
Frankly speaking we weren't playing quite well yesterday,our first touches were out of place and quite a lot of misunderstanding passes.

It's okay though,a draw is better than a lost.
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KD has little choice, Meireles was subbed due to sickness.

Sub Meireles with Ngog is a positive substituition, KD can go for Poulsen, play ultra-defensive, to see out the draw 1-0, but opt for striker to get second insurance goal.

Yes, yesterday was a lacklustre performance in general. Just hope it is one off match.

I prefer the 5 man defender with wing back like against Chelsea, more fluidity in passing.
The diamond formation yesterday, seem players cannot adapt with it, passing go hair-wired.
May be more training needed.


Added on February 14, 2011, 12:41 amOne thing I noticed that in yesterday match, there was a lot of discussion between Steve Clark and KD during the match.

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Hey guys!
I got back really late from Liverpool last night - i was absolutely knackered.
I'm uploading some photos onto facebook - then ill upload some videos - i've got videos of suarez hitting the post and the bar.
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Some ppl here are really critical about Eggnog, Dirk and Lucas.

There seems to be no way to please everyone.
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Not a big fan of Ngog myself to be honest
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QUOTE(daidzz @ Feb 14 2011, 01:06 AM)
Hey guys!
I got back really late from Liverpool last night - i was absolutely knackered.
I'm uploading some photos onto facebook - then ill upload some videos - i've got videos of suarez hitting the post and the bar.
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Magic. If you have time please do write and account beginning with your trip there to after the game. No need to talk about the match since we watched it. Am interested in the atmosphere and all. If you have the time lah.

On Pacheco, I'll not second guess Dalglish. He's been working with the academy for some time now and I can only imagine the king doesn't feel he's quite ready. Dalglish has shown that he's not biased against youth players having already played Spearing, Kelly and Shelvey.

Not an area I can commen much on since I don't watch youth matches. All I can say is I was surprised that Kelly kept getting picked ahead of Darby who was captaining the youth team but now I understand why. Not sure about Pacheco.
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watched the full match on saturday. some of my views:
1) lucas made quite a number of miss/intercepted passes, but he will always make it up few seconds later later by winning balls, mostly through interception
2) wigan looks more crisp in their passing. the useless international friendly has again, take it tolls on liverpool players.. come on la after the int friendly, even barca who previously slayed their opponents 3, 5-0 can only draw with a lowly team.
3) seems the team haven't clickin yet with suarez's style of play.
4) agger is 99999>skrtel
5) when is carrol coming? ngog is not that bad if he's playing for a midtable team.. but for a supposed-to-be top team like liverpool, ngog just doesn't have it
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To me, I would like to take the positive to the game like;

1. Overall jaded but still we kept the game in tempo (not as fast as everyone wants it but at least we don't sit back.. hey its Anfield after all)

2. Back 4 seems lively and getting used to playing with one another. Agger is indeed more reliable than Skrtel but hopefully the Carra and Agger influence will get him back on his defensive best

3. Meireles is a friggin give from out of nowhere (Woy was right about this one)

4. Suarez is showing the kind of 22.8 mil quality we paid for him. He is going to be our new goal contributor very soon.

5. And still I am in Awed of King Kenny, the way our players play "pass and move" and the morale is astounding.

Yes it is a draw and yes we dropped 2 points but we are in a transition, as long as the goal is still there, playing like the LFC of old and with a touch of flair here and there, I am more than a happy fan smile.gif

Still a joy to behold after months of disappointments it's putting the smile.gif back on my face. YNWA!!!
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Feb 14 2011, 02:33 PM)
To me, I would like to take the positive to the game like;

1. Overall jaded but still we kept the game in tempo (not as fast as everyone wants it but at least we don't sit back.. hey its Anfield after all)

2. Back 4 seems lively and getting used to playing with one another. Agger is indeed more reliable than Skrtel but hopefully the Carra and Agger influence will get him back on his defensive best

3. Meireles is a friggin give from out of nowhere (Woy was right about this one)

4. Suarez is showing the kind of 22.8 mil quality we paid for him. He is going to be our new goal contributor very soon.

5. And still I am in Awed of King Kenny, the way our players play "pass and move" and the morale is astounding.

Yes it is a draw and yes we dropped 2 points but we are in a transition, as long as the goal is still there, playing like the LFC of old and with a touch of flair here and there, I am more than a happy fan smile.gif

Still a joy to behold after months of disappointments it's putting the smile.gif back on my face. YNWA!!!
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Yup, we're still heading in the right direction. Internationals always effects bigger teams, especially with fatigue and injuries taking its toll.

Plus luck wasn't on our side in the match...injuries, illness, denied by the bar and offside goal counted. We still play pretty lively football to be honest, but everybody needs a little bit of luck in any football game.

YNWA, on to the next match!
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Feb 14 2011, 03:37 PM)
Yup, we're still heading in the right direction. Internationals always effects bigger teams, especially with fatigue and injuries taking its toll.

Plus luck wasn't on our side in the match...injuries, illness, denied by the bar and offside goal counted. We still play pretty lively football to be honest, but everybody needs a little bit of luck in any football game.

YNWA, on to the next match!
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ngog is not good enough for liverpool. maybe he's good for mid-table team, certainly not good enough for liverpool.
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I think maxi should not take any freekick from now afterwards. Gerrard, Aurellio and Suarez can do the job.
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ngog is not good enough for liverpool. maybe he's good for mid-table team, certainly not good enough for liverpool.
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Wigan played with alot of determination, as expected. It is also true that our players suffered from fatigue due to the international matches. This is a small hiccup but I believe we will recover.

I was impressed by Suarez. Had he scored in the first half with that beautiful move into the box, our confidence would have been boosted and we could have buried Wigan.

Nevertheless, I'm elated to see such a skillful player in the red shirt!
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Pity N'Gog have to take all the bashing. Didn't play for months then suddenly appeared as sub and everyone bashing him like he is worthless piece of junk. Just not long ago, everyone was praising him for standing up when Torres was injured and sidelined. Just not long ago, everyone was having high hope of him being a good(if not quality) player. Now, he is a worthless piece of junk that no team wants because he cant score a shit in 45minutes cameo. Bullcrap, if you ask me... You guys should be really ashamed of yourself.First Lucas, then N'Gog. Why is there a need to find someone as a scapegoat ? Poor guys have to take all these blames because of you all being selfish and ignorant.

P.S: He was the one leading the scoring chart when Gerrard and Torres actually off form. He was the one created us chances when the deadly duo buried themselves in shitty form and never look good ever since.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 14 2011, 04:24 PM)
Pity N'Gog have to take all the bashing. Didn't play for months then suddenly appeared as sub and everyone bashing him like he is worthless piece of junk. Just not long ago, everyone was praising him for standing up when Torres was injured and sidelined. Just not long ago, everyone was having high hope of him being a good(if not quality) player. Now, he is a worthless piece of junk that no team wants because he cant score a shit in 45minutes cameo. Bullcrap, if you ask me... You guys should be really ashamed of yourself.First Lucas, then N'Gog. Why is there a need to find someone as a scapegoat ? Poor guys have to take all these blames because of you all being selfish and ignorant.

P.S: He was the one leading the scoring chart when Gerrard and Torres actually off form. He was the one created us chances when the deadly duo buried themselves in shitty form and never look good ever since.
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Agree with you sols...thats why im stay away from this discussion. I also dont understand, on 1st half of the season, he was the one that we praise as a backup for torres...and suddenly being a sub, cant score, then we straight call his head. Let take kelly as example. Im not so confident when King play him at 1st time. But time to time, he develop. And something that shock me more is, he consistently play better at right back.

Just a reminder to myself, that football is a played by a team, not individually. Win as a team, loose as a team.
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I'm no Ngog fan but I agree that people shouldn't be bashing Ngog HOWEVER, it was not a good form he displayed. He still needs time to develop into a better striker. So far, I don't see him being the goal hungry type or the playmaker type. I agree also that football is played by a team BUT in order to play as a team, EVERYONE must do their respective jobs and a team works as a single unit moving forward and backward. One person fails to do so and the formation and strategy will fail. But yea, in the end don't blame Ngog, he needs time to be a better player, from the way I saw it, the whole team wasn't doing very well in the 4-4-2 formation, was even worse without Mereiles. We had a couple of chances from Suarez but still, it was a draw in the end. I'm not being a sh*t head here but in my perspective, when we play and draw against a team at a bottom of table and at home, I consider that a lost.

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 14 2011, 04:24 PM)
Pity N'Gog have to take all the bashing. Didn't play for months then suddenly appeared as sub and everyone bashing him like he is worthless piece of junk. Just not long ago, everyone was praising him for standing up when Torres was injured and sidelined. Just not long ago, everyone was having high hope of him being a good(if not quality) player. Now, he is a worthless piece of junk that no team wants because he cant score a shit in 45minutes cameo. Bullcrap, if you ask me... You guys should be really ashamed of yourself.First Lucas, then N'Gog. Why is there a need to find someone as a scapegoat ? Poor guys have to take all these blames because of you all being selfish and ignorant.

P.S: He was the one leading the scoring chart when Gerrard and Torres actually off form. He was the one created us chances when the deadly duo buried themselves in shitty form and never look good ever since.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 14 2011, 04:24 PM)
Pity N'Gog have to take all the bashing. Didn't play for months then suddenly appeared as sub and everyone bashing him like he is worthless piece of junk. Just not long ago, everyone was praising him for standing up when Torres was injured and sidelined. Just not long ago, everyone was having high hope of him being a good(if not quality) player. Now, he is a worthless piece of junk that no team wants because he cant score a shit in 45minutes cameo. Bullcrap, if you ask me... You guys should be really ashamed of yourself.First Lucas, then N'Gog. Why is there a need to find someone as a scapegoat ? Poor guys have to take all these blames because of you all being selfish and ignorant.

P.S: He was the one leading the scoring chart when Gerrard and Torres actually off form. He was the one created us chances when the deadly duo buried themselves in shitty form and never look good ever since.
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100% agree with u.. Last time Lucas got all the 'bashing game' but u have to think back - they are young - & seems like they can develop like wat Lucas is now.. Every player had their bad day.. We can critics but please not insult them.. And i believe KD will do smthng about this matter.. In everyone we trust..

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N'gog may need a loan somewhere outside to get more playing time and confidence. I fear the return of Andy Carroll will severely limit his playing time. It may do good for him.

I'm pretty satisfied with Suarez, he has some nifty flicks here and there...just give him sometime to understand his teammates, improve his English and understand Kenny Dalglish's tactics...he'll be awesome.

Same for Roy Carroll. I still think he's a beast with his height and speed. He's Peter Crouch V2. tongue.gif
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1 person start bashing N'gog after the match, 20 people follow bashing like they don't know he's a shitty striker before....

Now soli come out to defend him, 5-6 start to follow....qoute the statement and say agree agree

That's also the case with lucas and maxi or kuyt sometimes....it happen everytime after game before kenny daglish take over from woy

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Feb 14 2011, 04:24 PM)
Pity N'Gog have to take all the bashing. Didn't play for months then suddenly appeared as sub and everyone bashing him like he is worthless piece of junk. Just not long ago, everyone was praising him for standing up when Torres was injured and sidelined. Just not long ago, everyone was having high hope of him being a good(if not quality) player. Now, he is a worthless piece of junk that no team wants because he cant score a shit in 45minutes cameo. Bullcrap, if you ask me... You guys should be really ashamed of yourself.First Lucas, then N'Gog. Why is there a need to find someone as a scapegoat ? Poor guys have to take all these blames because of you all being selfish and ignorant.

P.S: He was the one leading the scoring chart when Gerrard and Torres actually off form. He was the one created us chances when the deadly duo buried themselves in shitty form and never look good ever since.
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Obviously, I not one of those, never praised any of those two, neither Lucas nor Ngog not even when them both in great form.. hopefully one day I will as much as I hope every player signed for Liverpool will succeed... but rite now both of them are not good enough to be in the first team, at least not yet, unless we'd settled for where we are rite now - a mid-table team. I can see that they work very hard but sometimes the best you can is still not good enough...

P.S: Though I do remember been heavily criticized here for criticizing everyone's favorite - Torres before... maybe it's true there are a few that always looking for someone as a scapegoat'... but for some, they are looking at bigger picture.
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QUOTE(sahathai @ Feb 14 2011, 05:42 PM)
Obviously, I not one of those, never praised any of those two, neither Lucas nor Ngog not even when them both in great form.. hopefully one day I will as much as I hope every player signed for Liverpool will succeed... but rite now both of them are not good enough to be in the first team, at least not yet, unless we'd settled for where we are rite now - a mid-table team. I can see that they work very hard but sometimes the best you can is still not good enough...

P.S: Though I do remember been heavily criticized here for criticizing everyone's favorite - Torres before... maybe it's true there are a few that always looking for someone as a scapegoat'... but for some, they are looking at bigger picture.
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i dunno.im not hoping for champs league this season. its been bad season honest to say. hope kenny will stay and lets see how he gonna utilise carroll and suarez, bet these players would be under dalglish for next season..else its like hangging only.
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1 person start bashing N'gog after the match, 20 people follow bashing like they don't know he's a shitty striker before....

Now soli come out to defend him, 5-6 start to follow....qoute the statement and say agree agree

That's also the case with lucas and maxi or kuyt sometimes....it happen everytime after game before kenny daglish take over from woy
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Respect, Unity, Trust & Patience

Is it really that hard? Give the lads a break. At least N'gog tries his best, unlike us keyboard warriors or some other players/managers/wannabe managers who can't be arsed to think about anyone but themselves.

By the way, how much does it cost to fly over to the UK nowadays on Air Asia? Been too long since I last made the pilgrimage, anyone game for sometime around winter this year? Bring the missus along to see some snow (hopefully) and catch a game?
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N'gog may need a loan somewhere outside to get more playing time and confidence. I fear the return of Andy Carroll will severely limit his playing time. It may do good for him.

I'm pretty satisfied with Suarez, he has some nifty flicks here and there...just give him sometime to understand his teammates, improve his English and understand Kenny Dalglish's tactics...he'll be awesome.

Same for Roy Carroll. I still think he's a beast with his height and speed. He's Peter Crouch V2. tongue.gif
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Suarez look fit to play in EPL. under KD i can see that he will get better and better. As for Andy Carroll, he certainly not as tall as Crouch but he does have the physical and pace advantage that Crouch does not have. If he can adapt well in KD's tactics, then he surely will be a top striker. lets hope he will not be injury prone. With Meireles playing in the center, i'm sure KD will deploy Gerrard on the right, Liverpool will have that aerial advantage in the opponent's box.
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Seriously, some of us need to ditch FM2011/PES2011/FIFA2011. Some of the comments are purely based on the games. Surely, I sense some rate the players based on the stats in the games.

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QUOTE(kenlimfornication @ Feb 14 2011, 07:01 PM)
Seriously, some of us need to ditch FM2011/PES2011/FIFA2011. Some of the comments are purely based on the games. Surely, I sense some rate the players based on the stats in the games.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 14 2011, 06:24 PM)
Respect, Unity, Trust & Patience

Is it really that hard? Give the lads a break. At least N'gog tries his best, unlike us keyboard warriors or some other players/managers/wannabe managers who can't be arsed to think about anyone but themselves.

By the way, how much does it cost to fly over to the UK nowadays on Air Asia? Been too long since I last made the pilgrimage, anyone game for sometime around winter this year? Bring the missus along to see some snow (hopefully) and catch a game?
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bro, fyi flight ticket price during winter (end year) always hell expensive.
highly recommended u go to UK during Spring season (April-June), and the ticket also not so expensive (costing around RM700-800 via Air Asia)...

btw i'm planning to fly over to UK by next year May, becos that time our team is in the Final Champion League... tongue.gif (always think positive)... heheh
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Former Liverpool managing director Christian Purslow claims that the sale of the club to FSG (formerly NESV) was a “bottom of the barrel outcome”.

An email dated September 15 2010 intended for the eyes of Sir Martin Broughton, Ian Ayre and Phillip Nash detailing Purslow’s thoughts on the proposed sale was disclosed by Tom Hicks & George Gillett’s legal team in court yesterday. One month after the email in which the former MD questioned the credentials of our American suitors, a £300m deal was concluded.

Liverpool’s former owners are back in High Court this week trying to overturn an anti-suit injunction which is preventing them seeking billions of bounds in damages. This email could work in their favour, although it is unlikely that they will ultimately prevail.

In the email Purslow cast doubt on NESV’s ability to fund a new stadium and urged his colleagues to “avoid the natural temptation to jump straight into the deal with NESV”. He also and said principal owner John W Henry’s hedge fund finance links “could not be worse” for publicity.

Purslow said of their credentials: “So what is positive? Answer, they exist. Which is not a lot, but it is not to be underestimated in importance.”

He went on to insist that the club “double check that none of the possibles who have come and gone in the last 18 months to apparent levels lower than Sharjah but higher than NESV are not there.”

“Sharjah” refers to the ruling family of the third largest United Arab Emirate, who were reportedly readying a £600million bid for Liverpool before the sale to NESV went through.

“So I repeat this is a bottom of the barrel outcome.” Purslow concluded.

Though this email will be embarrassing for Purslow, who remains a non-executive board member at Anfield, it is unlikely to sway any court decision in favour of Hicks & Gillett.
taken from http://www.kopsource.com/purslow-nesv-were...-of-the-barrel/

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http://www.kopsource.com/purslow-nesv-were...-of-the-barrel/
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Purslow doesnt know the runneth of a proper football club?

well, these show a few of the series of gaffe's by him. though im sure some may come out to defend him (for being a puppet of gillet & hicks. )

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 14 2011, 09:31 PM)
Purslow doesnt know the runneth of a proper football club?

well, these show a few of the series of gaffe's by him. though im sure some may come out to defend him (for being a puppet of gillet & hicks. )
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He wanted the Sheikhs to come in.

As much as we all may have wanted it, but knowing the Arabs... NESV would be a better pick, back then.


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Goodness sake,when will our trophy drought end? i m sick of this already.i feel like leaving football once and for all.

Somebody give me a proper reason not to do so. cry.gif
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huh? you mean the EPL drought?

Take a game, take a competition one at a time. Come on. We're still a 'work in progress'.

The only mistake that King Kenny did was he left us because he broke down, and didn't leave it to a better manager.

That was his 'only' major mistake, if you ask me.

He's here to finish the job. Give him the support, get behind the team, lad!


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QUOTE(hyperyouth_firepower @ Feb 14 2011, 09:35 PM)
He wanted the Sheikhs to come in.

As much as we all may have wanted it, but knowing the Arabs... NESV would be a better pick, back then.
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the sheikhs may have $$$$$ as deep as the 10 folds of oil wells but they wont have stability. as much as chelsea & man city can buy the planet, they cant buy history.

its has been frustrating 20 odd years of us not landing the english league title & to rub it in our noisy (sometimes seemed arrogance to few) neighbour will overtake us for 19th. I dont like it (soon the bragging rights will echo endlessly) but I'll draw more positives with NESV & now KD back at the helm. He's not & wont promise miracles but it doesn't take an idiot to see the effect it had on LFc of late.

some may quip it can be alike a false dawn like under rafa, but this time the owners appears to back with ballsy transfer.granted we receive a monsterous fee for torres, in the last 20 years we (LFC) had never paid back to back or even such high amount for top players (some may say andy carroll isnt proven top player just yet)

more positives ahead then negatives for me
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our main weakness

1) set piece is poor

2) corner kick seldom turn into goal opportunity

whereas our opponent have brilliant set pieces and corner kicks, juz look at Wigan's goal, (although it is an offside goal)
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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 14 2011, 08:37 PM)
Goodness sake,when will our trophy drought end? i m sick of this already.i feel like leaving football once and for all.

Somebody give me a proper reason not to do so. cry.gif
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be patience. Rome isn't build in one day. Give KD at least a season. i reckon Liverpool to become a stronger force in football by next season and once they have that stability, they shall win trophies again. EPL will be much more entertaining next season not like La liga where on RM and Barca conquer the league. although Barca football was breathtaking, the whole league will be boring. just like SPL once were when only Celtic and Ranger battling for the title.
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kamkamparadise,

I watched few matches of Valencia and A.Madrid as well as Villarreal.
The last thing I want to describe bout La Liga is boring.
In terms of points yes, that two are dominating but that doesn't mean the team below them are playing bad football. It is just as exciting as premier league if it's not better.




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QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 14 2011, 08:37 PM)
Goodness sake,when will our trophy drought end? i m sick of this already.i feel like leaving football once and for all.

Somebody give me a proper reason not to do so. cry.gif
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No offence bro, but your whining make me feel you are like a glory hunter. If you think it's not easy to support LFC, then you got two choices : Leave us and go to another winning team like Torres did OR stick with us. Either way is fine with us.

Only the strong survive and stick with their club. YNWA.
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 14 2011, 10:50 PM)
be patience. Rome isn't build in one day. Give KD at least a season. i reckon Liverpool to become a stronger force in football by next season and once they have that stability, they shall win trophies again. EPL will be much more entertaining next season not like La liga where on RM and Barca conquer the league. although Barca football was breathtaking, the whole league will be boring. just like SPL once were when only Celtic and Ranger battling for the title.
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every team in the world have their own up and down period..
maybe this time your MU team is the best team at the moment, but dun forget, the world is round, what goes around comes around...
we LFC will get our champs mode on the track back, only times will tell.. we always have faith in our team...
we'll see what's going to happen next season... notworthy.gif YNWA

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QUOTE(Junn @ Feb 14 2011, 11:14 PM)
kamkamparadise,

I watched few matches of Valencia and A.Madrid as well as Villarreal.
The last thing I want to describe bout La Liga is boring.
In terms of points yes, that two are dominating but that doesn't mean the team below them are playing bad football. It is just as exciting as premier league if it's not better.
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Rite! EPL were also conquered by Manutd and Chelsea for quite sometimes now. They even have the big four tittle for the dominance team in the league. Plus in La Liga big team can be outplayed by lower team, something rarely happened in EPL which you can be out-muscled but rarely you see lower team fully controlling the game. Serie A might be boring to watch but La Liga and Bundesliga is very exciting indeeds...
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:16 PM)
No offence bro, but your whining make me feel you are like a glory hunter. If you think it's not easy to support LFC, then you got two choices : Leave us and go to another winning team like Torres did OR stick with us. Either way is fine with us.

Only the strong survive and stick with their club. YNWA.
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Couldn't agree more.

Please join the plastic together with Torres

Anyway, today is the day where one of our greatest left us 15 years ago.

R.I.P Bob Paisley.

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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:16 PM)
No offence bro, but your whining make me feel you are like a glory hunter. If you think it's not easy to support LFC, then you got two choices : Leave us and go to another winning team like Torres did OR stick with us. Either way is fine with us.

Only the strong survive and stick with their club. YNWA.
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Small boys like u should read my sentence again.I said i wanted to quit football once and for all.That doesnt mean i m gonna support another team.Never would it

cross my mind to do that.I hate blind supporters and i want the team to start winning trophies again.Or else we r gonna fade away like leeds or nottingham forest.

Already we have a poor squad and over reliance on gerrard.At least win the league for gerrard.He has done so much for the club.I wish we win it soon for him.he

deserves it more than anyone else.
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take megabus from london would be cheaper as hell but must book online ticket early
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QUOTE(joekruger @ Feb 15 2011, 12:41 AM)
take megabus from london would be cheaper as hell but must book online ticket early
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if u r booking early, book train via megabus website instead.

yes its more expensive than bus but faster and much more comfortable, im sure they offer less than 10P/trip between London and Liverpool. smile.gif

oh and don't be late for any train, if it says it departs at 11:55 the train is already moving when the clock shows 11:55 biggrin.gif

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tis guy is celaka or what?

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...parture?cc=4716


Added on February 15, 2011, 12:57 amhttp://www.empireofthekop.com/anfield/?p=29336

expansion of anfield - an idea

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i rate Ngog = macheda. ngog's not the type of player who can make something out of nothing.. other top 4 teams have better backup strikers: imho crouch,chicharito, bentdner > ngog. yes, I really agree he should be loaned out somewhere to gain experience. and yes, really hope the arrival of carrol will make ngog work harder
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dem chelski almost lost with last min injury time penalty,dempsey really should done better,dem...if not we 5points oni with them,oh and torres who? whistling.gif
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Torres, the name is bigger than the Man
He is still the same player tat sulk like Berbaflop when he missed chances, whereas Suarez wont and Suarez hav the edge of being an exciting creative player
If we din sell him, he will be taking up a "non scoring striker slot" in our first 11 juz like it is happening in Chelsea now. Yes , 50Mil is a good SALE price for us.
Btw, for those of you who din watch the Chelsea match, Torres was again sub out around the 65min mark laugh.gif
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i think if chelsea misses CL spot next season, torres will beg to come to liverpool again. chelsea will sell him at half the price liv sold him. but I think Liv should teach him a lesson first before accepting him again. let him play in the reserve for a full season first before allow him to play in the 1st 11 again biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(imin @ Feb 15 2011, 08:35 AM)
i think if chelsea misses CL spot next season, torres will beg to come to liverpool again. chelsea will sell him at half the price liv sold him. but I think Liv should teach him a lesson first before accepting him again. let him play in the reserve for a full season first before allow him to play in the 1st 11 again biggrin.gif
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we have a fair chance to overtake Chelsea in the table when the season ends, ie; if we win all our remaining matches

let see if tat happens thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 15 2011, 08:13 AM)
Torres, the name is bigger than the Man
He is still the same player tat sulk like Berbaflop when he missed chances, whereas Suarez wont and Suarez hav the edge of being an exciting creative player
If we din sell him, he will be taking up a "non scoring striker slot" in our first 11 juz like it is happening in Chelsea now. Yes , 50Mil is a good SALE price for us.
Btw, for those of you who din watch the Chelsea match, Torres was again sub out around the 65min mark laugh.gif
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Let's not poke fun at Chelsea or belittle Torres anymore. We have our own troubles to sort out.
And honestly, so does Torres it seems.
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u guys made a lot of money with torres..he is simply not worth the money
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Let's not poke fun at Chelsea or belittle Torres anymore. We have our own troubles to sort out.
And honestly, so does Torres it seems.
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I agree. we dropped 2 points against Wigan (although i must admit they played very well). Hopefully the boys will put together a series of fine run and bring in the points. And hope Sunderland, Spurs and Chelsea falters...

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 15 2011, 09:41 AM)
Let's not poke fun at Chelsea or belittle Torres anymore. We have our own troubles to sort out.
And honestly, so does Torres it seems.
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He betrayed us in the first place, if he really wanna win thropies, then go elsewhere, like Barca or Real, why to our rivals and knowing tat our next game is against them too.

Anyway, we will see how well he play for them. now we hav Suarez and Carroll, we can concentrate and consolidate out climb for the 4th spot, its still possible mathematically though thumbup.gif
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a good performance from our u18s last night, 9-0 win in the FA youth cup with sterling scoring 5. that's something that hasn't happened at anfield for almost 2 decades.
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QUOTE(livingmonolith @ Feb 15 2011, 10:02 AM)
a good performance from our u18s last night, 9-0 win in the FA youth cup with sterling scoring 5. that's something that hasn't happened at anfield for almost 2 decades.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 15 2011, 09:54 AM)
He betrayed us in the first place, if he really wanna win thropies, then go elsewhere, like Barca or Real, why to our rivals and knowing tat our next game is against them too.

Anyway, we will see how well he play for them. now we hav Suarez and Carroll, we can concentrate and consolidate out climb for the 4th spot, its still possible mathematically though thumbup.gif
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First, Barcelona doesnt need Torres, they have far more enough depth, from Villa, Pedro, Messi, Bojan and Jeffren...
2ndly, soon or rather later, he will face us... so it makes no difference weather it happens straight away or at the end of the season...
So, just because of the next game is against Liverpool, Torres has to stop chasing his dreams?!


Added on February 15, 2011, 11:09 amand yeah, given that having Suarez and Carroll, i think Liverpool is heading to a brighter side...

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sterling's highlight....as usual,prepared by mkb


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Madness. I think we may have a genuine no 7 in the making here. Got some real pace and skills. He just waltzed through the defense like they were bunch of 10 year old kids haha. Future looks good, really good. Suso, Rahem, Coady, Silva, and by the time they break through the first team, the likes of Carroll, Suarez, Lucas, and Wilson will be at their peak.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 15 2011, 11:37 AM)
Madness. I think we may have a genuine no 7 in the making here. Got some real pace and skills. He just waltzed through the defense like they were bunch of 10 year old kids haha. Future looks good, really good. Suso, Rahem, Coady, Silva, and by the time they break through the first team, the likes of Carroll, Suarez, Lucas, and Wilson will be at their peak.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Feb 13 2011, 10:36 PM)
samir nasri looks under nourish kids..he's not that bad is he??...fabregas is not that big either..lets not go into luka modric shall we..sorry bro i'm juz sick & tired with all these small slender slim player not suitable for EPL crap! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Feb 13 2011, 10:54 PM)
agree with this. Players like Makelele, Shaun Wright Philips, Nasri, Fabregas, Scholes, Juninho, Park Ji Sung, Zola, etc have small frame compare to your normal players but instead of being bullied by bigger players, they turn to be the most influential players ever grace in EPL. It is the matter of determination and football brain that will ensure those players able to play in EPL.
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I figure both u lot did came up against players of Shawcross size when young? It'll f***ing destroyed the players confidence when & if they did terrible against those players. They only way to blood them is thru cup matches ( which we edi screwed up by losing to the mighty Northampton) & few mins here & there in the league matches.

Some of those mentioned though small have some experience playing in full fledge leagues before BPL with the exception of Fab. I'm not sure... but how about compare fab to Pacheco & Suso? Last I saw, Fabs already a fully built guy compare to those 2.
& pls google Makelee , SWP & Zola, pics before saying they're slender & small frame, they might be short but definitely not slender/small frame. Their upper body strength may put some of the big guys to shame.
As for Nasri & Modric, I thought they take some times to get used to the league & also pack up some muscle compare to when they arrived.

Personally me think the physical part is important in the sense that it'll gives them more confidence when facing some big guys. Else it may mentally break them as well. Lets not forget that young players have the tendency to be mentally not as strong as matured players. At least by being able to hold themselves up, they eliminates 1 potential weakness.
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Madness. I think we may have a genuine no 7 in the making here. Got some real pace and skills. He just waltzed through the defense like they were bunch of 10 year old kids haha. Future looks good, really good. Suso, Rahem, Coady, Silva, and by the time they break through the first team, the likes of Carroll, Suarez, Lucas, and Wilson will be at their peak.
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well, it's easy to brand them as great prospects, but we all know from 100 promising youngsters often only one or two makes it to the starting 11 of a top team. so i guess we can keep our expectations modest for the time being and see how they progress in the next 4-5 years.

having said that, apart from sterling who scored majority of the goals, the two fullbacks had a great show last night, jack robinson and john flanagan, according to paul dalglish anyway. robinson already made his debut a while ago, good to see him doing well in the u18 team. surprised that he still hasn't broken into the reserves squad yet though.

a curious stat for those interested in liverpool's youngsters, apparently before benitez took control of the academy, liverpool has been churning out 3-4 youth internationals the most, 2009 onwards after RB in charge, we have around 25-28 youth internationals. gotta give credit to RB and king kenny for revamping the youth teams in liverpool.


Added on February 15, 2011, 1:29 pm
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You forgot Pacheco  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 15 2011, 11:37 AM)
Madness. I think we may have a genuine no 7 in the making here. Got some real pace and skills. He just waltzed through the defense like they were bunch of 10 year old kids haha. Future looks good, really good. Suso, Rahem, Coady, Silva, and by the time they break through the first team, the likes of Carroll, Suarez, Lucas, and Wilson will be at their peak.
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Apart from those mentioned, I'm also impressed with Flanagan last nite. Calm and composed on the ball.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Feb 15 2011, 01:23 PM)
I figure both u lot did came up against players of Shawcross size when young? It'll f***ing destroyed the players confidence when & if they did terrible against those players. They only way to blood them is thru cup matches ( which we edi screwed up by losing to the mighty Northampton) & few mins here & there in the league matches.

Some of those mentioned though small have some experience playing in full fledge leagues before BPL with the exception of Fab. I'm not sure... but how about compare fab to Pacheco & Suso? Last I saw, Fabs already a fully built guy compare to those 2.
& pls google Makelee , SWP & Zola, pics before saying they're slender & small frame, they might be short but definitely not slender/small frame. Their upper body strength may put some of the big guys to shame.
As for Nasri & Modric, I thought they take some times to get used to the league & also pack up some muscle compare to when they arrived.

Personally me think the physical part is important in the sense that it'll gives them more confidence when facing some big guys. Else it may mentally break them as well. Lets not forget that young players have the tendency to be mentally not as strong as matured players. At least by being able to hold themselves up, they eliminates 1 potential weakness.
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Shawcross dont meet up with a midfielder like suso & pacheco ont the field right?...so a midfielder like suso,pacheco,sterling wont meet up with those big,tall CB...their area of the pitch wont let them to meet against shawcross or other big built C.B...of course big physical body gave u an advantage but its not the MUST HAVE criteria...nasri,modric do take some time to get used to EPL...so do a player called Thierry Henry!!..he's not that slim,slender right?





i bet while in liverpool michael owen was trembling like hell when he met against big brutal martin keown ehhhhhh
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 15 2011, 09:54 AM)
He betrayed us in the first place, if he really wanna win thropies, then go elsewhere, like Barca or Real, why to our rivals and knowing tat our next game is against them too.

Anyway, we will see how well he play for them. now we hav Suarez and Carroll, we can concentrate and consolidate out climb for the 4th spot, its still possible mathematically though thumbup.gif
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plz la.... when he was in liverpool every1 praised him to heaven then when he leave u guys curse him to hell. its no wrong for sm1 to think about whats best for them. ie, if the company u r working in now done have much future will u still continue n work with them for the rest of ur life? i believe deep down ur heart u will say no unless u have no ambition kind of person.

going to rivals? rivals of what? be honest la, liverpool is no where near challenging for title tis season. u might argue next season, but if he went to a team like wigan n wigan win against liverpool or they finis better in the standing next season, u guys will still curse him like hell.

com'on la juz be a true supporter to ur beloved team. 4get bout torres n concentrate how to get the best out of the players u have now

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@Partygaljapan:

I find your post pretty amusing. Don't mind me, please I'm not trying to incite any arguments at all.

I think alot of forumers are basically very unhappy with the way Torres left.
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Feb 15 2011, 10:23 AM)
sterling's highlight....as usual,prepared by mkb


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exciting ahead at Anfield. I hope KD will helm us till we get our number 19

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@Partygaljapan:

I find your post pretty amusing. Don't mind me, please I'm not trying to incite any arguments at all.

I think alot of forumers are basically very unhappy with the way Torres left.
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of coz as a supporter of ur club when 1 of ur star key player left u will feel very unhappy. same as the time when C.R left man utd tat time. after alot of nice speeches he still left for R.Madrid. it wont chg anyting even torres play like shit in chelsea. life goes on, u might never know, liverpool might be well better without him. then u guys will thank him for leaving?
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QUOTE(PaRtYgAlJaPaN @ Feb 15 2011, 05:10 PM)
of coz as a supporter of ur club when 1 of ur star key player left u will feel very unhappy. same as the time when C.R left man utd tat time. after alot of nice speeches he still left for R.Madrid. it wont chg anyting even torres play like shit in chelsea. life goes on, u might never know, liverpool might be well better without him. then u guys will thank him for leaving?
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so another Mu troller sign in wif a new id to disturb us again?

nevermind dude, Carroll will be fit to face Mu , lets see we can derail Mu chance of testing number 19 laugh.gif

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...92534-28170922/
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QUOTE(PaRtYgAlJaPaN @ Feb 15 2011, 06:10 PM)
of coz as a supporter of ur club when 1 of ur star key player left u will feel very unhappy. same as the time when C.R left man utd tat time. after alot of nice speeches he still left for R.Madrid. it wont chg anyting even torres play like shit in chelsea. life goes on, u might never know, liverpool might be well better without him. then u guys will thank him for leaving?
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The situation of C.R leaving Man Utd, and the circumstances behind Torres leaving Liverpool... are 2 very different scenarios. Very, very different. I don't wish to dwell too deep into it, but as far as I could say, the issue with Fernando Torres and Liverpool F.C is more than just about broken trusts. Football, is a matter more than life and death, as Shankly puts it (not literally, but to a Kopite it means alot) so although its bittersweet, people will still rant. In the eyes of many, Torres is about nearly the rank of a certain Michael Owen. Believe me, what you see is a little different from the way we see it.

In that same case we do and we are quite aware of the plight of Newcastle United when they lost Andy Caroll to us, but then again his circumstances leaving Newcastle United is very different from how C.R and Fernando Torres left their former clubs. Again, there's need for light to be shed in.




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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 15 2011, 05:15 PM)
so another Mu troller sign in wif a new id to disturb us again?

nevermind dude, Carroll will be fit to face Mu , lets see we can derail Mu chance of testing number 19 laugh.gif

http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverp...92534-28170922/
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u tok wat, he is trolling in MU thread himself doh.gif
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QUOTE(pyroboy1911 @ Feb 15 2011, 07:11 PM)
u tok wat, he is trolling in MU thread himself  doh.gif
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not everyone who come in here and question Ngog is fickle minded or unreasonable.

While I dont immature fans coming here to scapegoats 1-2 players everytime we have a poor result, lets be fair to those who have a fair point to make.

Regarding Ngog, I am not crying for the management to sell him or ship him out. He's young and he has scored for us. He probably needs time to develop.
But i do have my doubts if Ngog can be a leading, menacing striker for us to win the league. Of course, in terms of hierarchy, we know that there is higher expectancy on Suarez, Carroll or evey Kuyt to score as compared to Ngog. But this is where the issue of our squad being a bit too thin to challenge for the title. Once the first 11 are injured/tired, players like Ngog are still finding it a bit too difficult to come in and do the job.

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not everyone who come in here and question Ngog is fickle minded or unreasonable. 

While I dont immature fans coming here to scapegoats 1-2 players everytime we have a poor result, lets be fair to those who have a fair point to make.

Regarding Ngog, I am not crying for the management to sell him or ship him out.  He's young and he has scored for us. He probably needs time to develop.
But i do have my doubts if Ngog can be a leading, menacing striker for us to win the league.  Of course, in terms of hierarchy, we know that there is higher expectancy on Suarez, Carroll or evey Kuyt to score as compared to Ngog.  But this is where the issue of our squad being a bit too thin to challenge for the title.  Once the first 11 are injured/tired, players like Ngog are still finding it a bit too difficult to come in and do the job.
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My take on Ngog is that he's still quite raw and its more of an issue of mental development rather than technical. He has one of the best first touches in this team, he looks so comfortable with the ball at his feet - contrast that to say Babel and Kuyt. He needs to toughen up mentally - be more confident and ruthless, and not smile all the time haha. It's pretty early to say what kind of striker he will become but i would like to see he plays the role of a deep lying striker like Anelka. Despite the obvious limitations, I still think he's a very decent back up. He's twice the player Babel was and a major improvement to our previous back ups like Mellor etc.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Feb 15 2011, 08:44 PM)
My take on Ngog is that he's still quite raw and its more of an issue of mental development rather than technical. He has one of the best first touches in this team, he looks so comfortable with the ball at his feet - contrast that to say Babel and Kuyt. He needs to toughen up mentally - be more confident and ruthless, and not smile all the time haha. It's pretty early to say what kind of striker he will become but i would like to see he plays the role of a deep lying striker like Anelka. Despite the obvious limitations, I still think he's a very decent back up. He's twice the player Babel was and a major improvement to our previous back ups like Mellor etc.
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hope so. to be fair, a backup striker is a difficult job. Sporadic appearances and people expect you to dribble like a wizard and score a miracle goal.
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tat reminds me about Milan Baros and Benayoun, a good dribbler, lets hope Carroll can fill in the shoes of a good dribbler


Added on February 15, 2011, 9:14 pmThere has been a lot of excitement in the OurKop.com office today following the Liverpool Under 18’s demolishing Southend United in the FA Youth Cup on Monday night by 9-0. All the talk has been about Raheem Sterling who scored 5 goals in the game.

Now some people have been saying that it was only a Youth Cup game but the simple matter of the fact is that it is not easy to score 5 goals in a single game even if you are playing Sunday football in the park. What Sterling did needs to be applauded and commended.

For many Liverpool fans, today was the first day they have heard about Raheem Sterling as they had no idea who he is. I hope today we will all know who Raheem is and hope that he will be a future Liverpool star in years to come.

Here are some important facts you need to know about Sterling:
1. He was born in Harlesden in North London in December 1993.
2. He joined Queens Park Rangers aged 10.
3. He signed a contract with Liverpool in 2010 when he left QPR.
4. He is a lightening-quick striker with good all-round ability, he has already been compared to Theo Walcott, while some coaches rate him as highly as Wayne Rooney at the same age.
5. He can pass, shoot, head it, score goals, tackle, defend, basically he can do anything!

The future looks bright for Liverpool as our youth and reserve teams seem to be doing very well. One prospect I am looking forward to is seeing Sterling and Suso leading the Liverpool attack in a couple of years time.

They say a picture is worth a thousand words, below is a video showing the talents of Raheem Sterling.


http://www.ourkop.com/2011/02/15/video-who...aheem-sterling/

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oh hai guise i just got my Meireles4 home jersey for 330 , is that price ok
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And i'm pretty sure KD knows better than me thou... just hopefully it'll be a winning formation.
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still torres ka? nobody excited tat carroll is training again?
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caroll to be fit for mu match.Hopefully he beats the shit out of vidic and ferdinand. rclxms.gif
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Err, I rather he scores more goals... not fighting with the players tongue.gif
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thats what i meant la.beat not as in pukul but torment and torture the defenders during the match with runs and passes

phail english la u.
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Still got another 11 matches left in the BPL... i keep my fingers cross hoping we could make it to qualify for the CL Spot...
we haven't meet MU, ManCity, Gunners, and Spurs... we should win againts them to secure our CL place next season... sweat.gif

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He wrote on Twitter: 'Not being funny but he should go blond again to bring him good luck.

'He used to score as a blond. How technical is that.'
Exactly like I said it last year tongue.gif
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Did you guys heard bout the Chavski song for Torres?

They nicked our Torres song and take a spite at us.

How inventive, just like their Torres banner.
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kamkamparadise,

I watched few matches of Valencia and A.Madrid as well as Villarreal.
The last thing I want to describe bout La Liga is boring.
In terms of points yes, that two are dominating but that doesn't mean the team below them are playing bad football. It is just as exciting as premier league if it's not better.
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yeah. i'm sorry for calling La liga quite boring. what i meant was the league will be boring if every season only two teams battling for the crown. i watch La liga football too and yes, their football are breathtaking only then it will always between RM and Barca. Thank you for highlighting.

QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Feb 14 2011, 11:41 PM)
every team in the world have their own up and down period..
maybe this time your MU team is the best team at the moment, but dun forget, the world is round, what goes around comes around...
we LFC will get our champs mode on the track back, only times will tell.. we always have faith in our team...
we'll see what's going to happen next season...  notworthy.gif YNWA
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yup. i always believe that one day Liverpool will be restored as the conquering force they once were. no doubt about that. of course as a MU fan i will surely afraid that will happen but as a football fan, i would love to see that happen. i can already imagine the competitive and crunchy match between MU and Liverpool when that time comes.

QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 15 2011, 12:19 AM)
Small boys like u should read my sentence again.I said i wanted to quit football once and for all.That doesnt mean i m gonna support another team.Never would it

cross my mind to do that.I hate blind supporters and i want the team to start winning trophies again.Or else we r gonna fade away like leeds or nottingham forest.

Already we have a poor squad and over reliance on gerrard.At least win the league for gerrard.He has done so much for the club.I wish we win it soon for him.he

deserves it more than anyone else.
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U wanted to quit football just because Liverpool aren't winning anything? if u're a truly a Liverpool fan by heart, u won't leave your club while in their darkest days. So u will not support other team but by leaving and not support your club when they not winning anything is just purely unacceptable. surely it's your choice but your action just don't justify what Liverpool fans are all about.....faith. When i was first enter this thread, i was amazed by the support toward Liverpool by fellow LYN supporters here. Eventhough Liverpool haven't won any league title for a long time, their support for this club never cease instead, they continue to support Liverpool and enjoy the football. These guys here have faith which i think you don't have for Liverpool.


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Did you guys heard bout the Chavski song for Torres?

They nicked our Torres song and take a spite at us.

How inventive, just like their Torres banner.
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hahahaha...i noticed it as well..banner and now song!...not surprise it came from those plastic waving flag fanz laugh.gif
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someone mind post a comparison between their version and ours?
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i love to hear that too....
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someone mind post a comparison between their version and ours?
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Heard from other forums saying that "You'll never walk alone" is still in the lyrics. LOL
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QUOTE(digilife @ Feb 15 2011, 10:54 AM)
He betrayed us in the first place, if he really wanna win thropies, then go elsewhere, like Barca or Real, why to our rivals and knowing tat our next game is against them too.

Anyway, we will see how well he play for them. now we hav Suarez and Carroll, we can concentrate and consolidate out climb for the 4th spot, its still possible mathematically though thumbup.gif
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what rubbish, firstly only chelsea can/could pay good money (midseason), barca doesnt need torres & will need to big loan to buy. RM? after buying the earth, you think they can spend, afterall the preseident has already mentioned to temporary repreive of galaticos type of spending spree. I'll say we ended a better by having 2 good players & 'probably' may be better bargain. We definately need reinforcement to save this season after have roy-gillet-hicks destroyed the legacy by stripping us & hung us to death.

Sure we are hurt by torres leaving us but he has done & serve us with excellent goal, What about Roy hogson, you defend him with 'having a impeccable record of not losing an europa match at lfc', he has singlehandily handed LFc to the worse start to the english premier league, tactically naive in changing the course of a game by selecting an ancient formation & not introducing better players at any giving game. in comparison we dish him simply because he offered us no better off at anytime, some may defend him by saying he sign meireles, goodness ROY-liverpool-dont-love-me-whiner-Hodgson didnt even know raul & which position he plays!! (btw he complained again at the owners & lfc fans last weekend). under the circumtances if we had been tops in our form, torres may not have left us nor us having the uninmaginable thoughts of even reina has any thoughts he might think of leaving.

torres is class act, we'll remember he once served us with great goals, & we got 2 good players in return. things are as such players move on, so will we. anyone wish torres well but just not against us.

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so thank you gillet& hick & royFHodson. yawn.gif




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i think we are FORCED to let him go, hence the bitter feeling. unlike so many of our previous stars, we let them go although with a heavy heart

walk on... kinda tired of torres issue now

let talk bout carroll
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 16 2011, 11:46 AM)
what rubbish, firstly only chelsea can/could pay good money (midseason), barca doesnt need torres & will need to big loan to buy. RM? after buying the earth, you think they can spend, afterall the preseident has already mentioned to temporary repreive of galaticos type of spending spree. I'll say we ended a better by having 2 good players & 'probably' may be better bargain. We definately need reinforcement to save this season after have roy-gillet-hicks destroyed the legacy by stripping us & hung us to death.

Sure we are hurt by torres leaving us but he has done & serve us with excellent goal, What about Roy hogson, you defend him with 'having a impeccable record of not losing an europa match at lfc', he has singlehandily handed LFc to the worse start to the english premier league, tactically naive in changing the course of a game by selecting an ancient formation & not introducing better players at any giving game. in comparison we dish him simply because he offered us no better off at anytime, some may defend him by saying he sign meireles, goodness ROY-liverpool-dont-love-me-whiner-Hodgson didnt even know raul & which position he plays!! (btw he complained again at the owners & lfc fans last weekend). under the circumtances if we had been tops in our form, torres may not have left us nor us having the uninmaginable thoughts of even reina has any thoughts he might think of leaving.

torres is class act, we'll remember he once served us with great goals, & we got 2 good players in return. things are as such players move on, so will we. anyone wish torres well but just not against us.

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so thank you gillet& hick & royFHodson.  yawn.gif
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Did you guys heard bout the Chavski song for Torres?

They nicked our Torres song and take a spite at us.

How inventive, just like their Torres banner.
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The banner was a huge joke. Little did the "copy & paste" fan know that the fancy little design below Torres' head, is in fact the Shankly Gates.

Oh and Torres would never join Real since they are Atletico's biggest rivals. If he did, it will take treachery to another level.
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He’s still our number 9

He’s now a blue he was a red, Torres! Torres!

He left the Kop to join the shed Torres! Torres!

He used to go out on the rob, but now he’s got a proper job Fernando Torres, Chelsea’s no.9!!!

I don't know if this is true or not...
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Ahhh...torres again tongue.gif What Torres did to us, some can accept it, some cannot. Just wish him all the best, and move on. When we look it at a moral values, we might say torres is a traitor, when we look at it as business entity, we should not dump the 50M that offered for him. So the best approach to let go all the story behind it, just wish him all the best.


QUOTE(Savado89 @ Feb 15 2011, 12:19 AM)
Small boys like u should read my sentence again.I said i wanted to quit football once and for all.That doesnt mean i m gonna support another team.Never would it

cross my mind to do that.I hate blind supporters and i want the team to start winning trophies again.Or else we r gonna fade away like leeds or nottingham forest.

Already we have a poor squad and over reliance on gerrard.At least win the league for gerrard.He has done so much for the club.I wish we win it soon for him.he

deserves it more than anyone else.
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I know you are the big boys, not seeing Liverpool as a blind supporters. But all of your post not seems like to praise our club or our player. Try not insults our club, player and fans. Do some positive thinking and we can move forward.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Feb 15 2011, 09:41 AM)
Let's not poke fun at Chelsea or belittle Torres anymore. We have our own troubles to sort out.
And honestly, so does Torres it seems.
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Precisely. I would like to think that we are not a bitter lot. I just think that some posters are more interested in bad mouthing him than trying to understand where he's coming from. I mean if you truly loved Torres, you'd do all you can to understand his predicament. This is merely my opinion. Like I said, I feel hurt but the club remains and we move on. In the end, everyone has his own opinion on what he did and we can at least expected to be consistent, and not fickle. Are the same guys who burned Gerrard's kit still angry at him or do they sing his name now when he scores? Do the same fans who insulted Rooney for wanting to leave the mancs still insult him, or did they cream in their pants when he scored that overhead against City?

Fans have short memories these days. I choose to remember the man who brushed Ben Haim aside before side footing the ball past an oncoming Petr Cech. I choose to remember a man whose goals meant we only lost 2 games the whole season, giving us our highest points total in Premiership history. Although we finished a disappointing 7th the season after, he still scored 22 goals in 32 games. Where would we have finished if not for this goals one wonders? He's also the fastest guy in our history to reach the 50 goal mark. I'll always appreciate what he's done in his time here. I'll remember the bloke in red who made the whole of Anfield bounce and sing his name even if he was just warming up. The guy at Chelsea now, I don't know who that is.

We didn't lose Torres merely because he wanted more medals. We lost him also because Chelsea just about doubled his salary (http://sportsxplorer.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=252:chelsea-close-to-signing-liverpool-start-striker-fernando-torres&catid=45:international-news#) so if you want to lambast him, do it because of this. Obviously we couldn't afford to match their offer or we would have. Didn't read anywhere that we tried. It wasn't that we weren't going through a revival under King Kenny as much as it is about mulah if you ask me.

My 2 cents.
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Raheem Sterling, a 16-year-old schoolboy, could become the youngest player in Liverpool’s history after he was named in Kenny Dalglish’s party for tomorrow night’s Europa League tie away to Sparta Prague.

Such is Sterling’s youth, he is able to make the trip to the Czech capital because he is on half-term holiday from Rainhill High School, where he is in the final year of his senior education.

One of the first moves Dalglish made after taking over as caretaker manager in early January was to promote the highly rated teenager to the A list of Liverpool’s Europa League squad, a clear indication of his growing belief that Sterling’s precocious talent makes him worthy of being fast-tracked into the first-team picture.

Dalglish was at Anfield on Monday night to see Sterling score five goals for Liverpool’s youth team in their 9-0 rout of Southend United in the FA Youth Cup, a glittering virtuoso performance that served only to underline why the Merseyside club signed him from Queens Park Rangers for an initial fee of £500,000 last March.

The Jamaican-born youngster was one of the final recruits of Rafael Benítez’s reign, although Dalglish, who was working at the club’s academy at the time, was also instrumental in securing his signature.

Given his age and talent, Sterling will inevitably be seen as a symbol of the renaissance that is taking place at the academy, a revival that will lead to three further products from Liverpool’s youth ranks being included in Dalglish’s squad for the tie in Prague.

Conor Coady, a midfield player who captains the England Under-18 team, and Jonathan Flanagan, an 18-year-old right back whose progress in recent months has caught Dalglish’s eye, have both been called up to the squad.

Jack Robinson, a left back who holds the record for being Liverpool’s youngest player at 16 years and 250 days, has also been included. But his record will be broken should Sterling be given any playing time in Prague as the England Under-17 player will be 16 years and 71 days on the day of the game.

The production line of talent that once thrust the likes of Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher into Liverpool’s first-team ranks had ground to a halt in recent years, prompting a recent overhaul in which Frank McParland was appointed as academy director and the Spanish coaches, Pep Segura and Rodolfo Borrell, were recruited to oversee technical development.

Benítez’s decision to utilise Dalglish’s expertise and experience by handing him a role at the academy was also significant, one of a number of changes that Dalglish himself believes is already paying dividends.

“That’s great credit to Rafa who brought in Pep Segura, Rodolfo Borrell and Frank McParland,” Dalglish said recently. “He reorganised the whole academy and you can see the benefit in the kids now. It’s fantastic to see. The reserve team’s average age has been drastically reduced.”




congratz to him...a player who scores 5 goals in a youth match deserve this reward! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Feb 16 2011, 01:58 AM)
still torres ka? nobody excited tat carroll is training again?
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yes, we all are, true liver blooded fans are silavating the prospects of having a young new giant to slay our arch rival. together also with our latin flair suarez.

as john henry just said, they weren't interested for a short haul investment but to knock MU of their perch. like it or not MU has been the bench mark for success in milking the football club's & trophies in recent years & they have been quite consistent on it.

our No9 is now andy carroll, & once he makes his debut with lfc, people cant help but notice his calibre.

We dont need some 'A' pretenders lining up fake accounts just to name assassinate our newest recruits . if i may say, signing anonymously only illustrates they are afraid, maybe by notching their unprecedented 19th may signal the inevitable decline thereafter, who knows.

there are so more positives in having the current owners willing to spend torres fee. it's unlike our past regime where the profits of the CL money/club success under the Spaniard was used to pay their bank interest.


come march 6. its one massive game but we know its the other games that will now form our destiny.



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Is it time for Liverpool to knock man utd off the perch since they have knock us down?
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that sterling kid is great. though he will need a few more years before he is ready to take on the PL defenders. suso, cody and sterling.. the future is bright.

why we still talking about torres chelski no 9, again? he moved on so should we..
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QUOTE(madfag @ Feb 16 2011, 12:58 PM)
class fan. +1
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i'm certainly am nothing. its a collective of liverpool fans who wants whats best for liverpool Fc.
the current Lfc team works together, supports the cause & so will we.

I'm exasperated of fans who have short memory. narrow sighted & unable to see the bigger picture.





QUOTE(aiyish @ Feb 16 2011, 05:08 PM)
Is it time for Liverpool to knock man utd off the perch since they have knock us down?
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in recent times, they have the upperhand in banters, weather we like it or not. This season league title is for them-to-lose. we are realist.

its undeniable that the top 3 richest & most protitable fottball clubs have the devils in there. on paper they may appear to be in debt, but there is no denying they have the massive funds to dip, along with manc city, chelsea, RM.

we have or at least being aligned by our new owners to succeed where we failed the last 20+ year in managing modern day football club. its still early days & may seem so but as even dalglish has admitted, rafa has overhaul the academy for the better, it only a matter of time & naturing the good seeds.
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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Feb 16 2011, 04:22 PM)
its undeniable that the top 3 richest & most protitable fottball clubs have the devils in there. on paper they may appear to be in debt, but there is no denying they have the massive funds to dip, along with manc city, chelsea, RM.

we have or at least being aligned by our new owners to succeed where we failed the last 20+ year in managing modern day football club. its still early days & may seem so but as even dalglish has admitted, rafa has overhaul the academy for the better, it only a matter of time & naturing the good seeds.
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i watched the manc derby last week and when i saw the attendance (close to 76k) it crossed my mind that anfield could only get bit more than half of that if managed to get full house. so (just to simplify it) their revenue is almost double from what we get per game. i hope John Henry is planning to expand Anfield in very near future. 75k seater is too much and i doubt we could fill it up. 55k - 60k is more realistic.

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