Obviously, I not one of those, never praised any of those two, neither Lucas nor Ngog not even when them both in great form.. hopefully one day I will as much as I hope every player signed for Liverpool will succeed... but rite now both of them are not good enough to be in the first team, at least not yet, unless we'd settled for where we are rite now - a mid-table team. I can see that they work very hard but sometimes the best you can is still not good enough...

P.S: Though I do remember been heavily criticized here for criticizing everyone's favorite - Torres before... maybe it's true there are a few that always looking for someone as a scapegoat'... but for some, they are looking at bigger picture.