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post Jan 14 2011, 12:35 AM, updated 15y ago

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Liverpool Football Club



Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Martin Broughton

Manager/Caretaker :
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Kenny Dalglish
Assistant Manager:
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Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
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2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
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Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad 2010/2011


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BPL:
Steven Gerrard 2
David N'Gog 1
Fernando Torres 1

Europa League:

David N'Gog 5
Joe Cole 1
Lucas Leiva 1
Steven Gerrard 1
Ryan Babel 1
Dirk Kuyt 1

Carling Cup :

David N'Gog 1
Milan Jovanovic 1
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Liverpool FC 2010/2011 Fixtures


July 2010

17 Jul 2010 Friendly Al-Hilal A 18:00 [canceled due to flooded pitch]
21 Jul 2010 Friendly G'hopper A 18:30 [0-0]
24 Jul 2010 Friendly K'slautern A 15:15 [0-2]


August 2010
1 Aug 2010 Friendly Borussia M A 13:30 [1-0]
15 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Arsenal H [1-1] -David N'Gog
23 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League Man City A 20:00 [3-0]
28 Aug 2010 Barclays Premier League WBA H 15:00 [1-0] -Fernando Torres


September 2010
12 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Birmingham A 16:00 [0-0]
19 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Man United A 13:30 [3-2] -Steven Gerrard x2
25 Sep 2010 Barclays Premier League Sunderland H 15:00

October 2010
2 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool H 15:00
17 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Everton A 13:30
23 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackburn H 15:00
31 Oct 2010 Barclays Premier League Bolton A 13:30

November 2010
7 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Chelsea H 16:00
10 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Wigan A 19:45
13 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Stoke City A 17:30
20 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League West Ham H 17:30
28 Nov 2010 Barclays Premier League Tottenham A 16:00

December 2010
4 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Villa H 15:00
11 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League N'castle A 15:00
18 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Fulham H 15:00
26 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Blackpool A 15:00
28 Dec 2010 Barclays Premier League Wolves H 15:00

January 2011
1 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Bolton H 15:00
5 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Blackburn A 20:00
15 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Everton H 15:00
22 Jan 2011 Barclays Premier League Wolves A 15:00

February 2011
2 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Stoke City H 20:00
5 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Chelsea A 15:00
12 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League Wigan H 15:00
26 Feb 2011 Barclays Premier League West Ham A 15:00

March 2011
5 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Man United H 15:00
19 Mar 2011 Barclays Premier League Sunderland A 15:00

April 2011
2 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League WBA A 15:00
10 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Man City H 15:00
16 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Arsenal A 15:00
23 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League Birmingham H 15:00
30 Apr 2011 Barclays Premier League N'castle H 15:00

May 2011
7 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Fulham A 15:00
15 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Tottenham H 15:00
22 May 2011 Barclays Premier League Villa A 16:00
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The Quotes


Roy Hodgson



Journalists suggested to Hodgson that he had arrived at the club ahead of a pivotal season. Again the tactician was philosophical.

"Every day I drive into the training ground I see the year 1892," he said. "In two years' time the club will be 120 years old. I won't get involved in discussions about pivotal seasons. I realise you people have got to do that because every day's pivotal in your promotion of the news.

"If you don't mind, I'll take the 120-year view. There'll be plenty more games to be played and titles to be won."


Reporters quizzed Hodgson on whether he was envious of the financial clout available to City boss Mancini.

But the boss replied: "I'm never jealous. I am in a position I want to be in.

"I am working for a club I have always wanted to work for, and I think it is for other people to be jealous of me - not for me to be jealous of other people.

"It would be very, very sad if someone as fortunate as I have been in my career starts getting jealous of other people."

Rafa Benitez
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Steven Gerrard
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Fernando Torres
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Xabi Alonso

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Reina


from Martin O'Neill after 0-1 defeat against Reds

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"Their keeper made a great save in each half, particularly the one from Stewart Downing - it was a great, great save. And then there was the one from Gabby later on. We had two go inches past the post too.


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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

Jonno was speaking to Joe Curran

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Match Highlights


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Summer Transfer In and Out



IN:

- Player In - Team
- Brad Jones - Middlesbrough
- Christian Poulsen - Juventus
- Fabio Aurelio - Unattached
- Danny Wilson - Rangers
-Joe Cole - Unattached
-Jonjo Shelvey - Charlton Athletic
-Milan Jovanovic - Standard Liege

OUT:


- Player Out - Team
- Alberto Aquilani - Juventus
- Phillip Degen - VfB Stuttgart
-Alberto Riera - Olympiakos
- Yossi Benayoun - Chelsea
- Mikel San Jose - Athletic Bilbao
-Robbie Threlfall - Bradford City
-David Martin -MK Dons

New season, bring it on !!!

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Alright, can start posting for new thread but please keep it clean and as constructive as possible.

If there are trolls, just hit the report button. Thank you. smile.gif
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hopefully this derby will be the start of our winning ways..
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The manager is still Woy at the first post tongue.gif.
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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Jan 14 2011, 02:14 AM)
The manager is still Woy at the first post tongue.gif.
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Since Liv will be playing at home for the 1st time under KK, Liverpool is going to win this match. Mark my words. Because I just played Liverpool in PES and my first 2 games was away and I lost. The 3rd game was home, and I win biggrin.gif
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KD first home WIN at home turf this weekend?

its Everton rite?

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 13 2011, 05:38 PM)
And I call myself a Rafa lover, damn it. I do not know about any of you but I love seeing Kenny managing the team with not much regards about the result, the reason there was no more love if there were any towards Woy was because of his tactics, his press conference, etc. King Kenny did not manage a club for a long period but we can't deny that he's light years better than Woy in terms of words, tactics still not there yet, but looks promising.

Rafa's interviews or press conferences were good, but King Kenny is better and he knows what is Liverpool about and most importantly, the boot room.
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I blame RHogson for turning us into scared pus*y cats. He was apologetic to ferguson's attack on torres (the last time we played with them: 2-3 lost) & only came to torres defense much later, RH even appeared to be undermining all our efforts & even before we played the opposition. We were 'defeated' before any game with the lack of motivation, defeatist style. And unless ROy had prior knowledge of the game at hand from the referees or the English FA (like fergie does) he has to prepare the team to go out & fight (play). not succumb like sacrificial lambs offerings. I dont know, maybe he (RH) learned that from his old friend & we got *cough, cough* saboteured in the process rolleyes.gif

KD is back to help instill what was stripped of us. Like how the roman soldiers were motivated to fight with a gallant war call by their general. Even its was dramatised in a movie, (it was inspiring to say the least), A true leader must gather & prepared his soldiers. The players then will need the right strategy, motivation for the task ahead. Of course, after the defeatist approach we had early this season it wont be easy. only at the training ground (at melwood) a new belief be instilled.

Looking back we were desperate to catch up with the money game with ManU, chelsea, arsenal, and we were hoodwinked by some slick texans with mountains of promises but instead they punctured a hole into a bulldozing tanker which eventually ran aground last season. I would absolve any blame of rafa, .. maybe he took too much upon himself to fight the 2 devils that he lost the focus to motivate & prepare the players but it was the 2 devils that cursed LFc soul.

I'm glad the last relic time-bomb G&H left behind was finally removed. It wont be easy. I wish RH all the best. we was a nice man put to manage a wrong club.

Its not the time for us to press the panic button if KD couple of games didnt turn out as planned. We need to be formidable like how we were under rafa. It's not luck, or chance situation that rafa choose to have KD back in liverpool. He knows KD has an aura & rafa was right.

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tuncay has made a promotional video for himself... see it at http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=132529883476777 . the full news regarding it at http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...n-video?cc=4716

Would be good if Liverpool buys him and partner him with Torres upfront, no? biggrin.gif
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new thread......may luck be on our side this time YNWA
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QUOTE(Perunding @ Jan 14 2011, 08:38 AM)
Blackpool 2 Liverpool 1

should change this thread to blackpool football club. LOL
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errr...what?

Just because Blackpool beat us twice, we should change our thread name huh. Then MU should change their thread name too in 2008/2009 since we did beat them twice as well. Stupid troll wink.gif
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QUOTE(uNeVErwaLkaloNe @ Jan 14 2011, 10:26 AM)
errr...what?

Just because Blackpool beat us twice, we should change our thread name huh. Then MU should change their thread name too in 2008/2009 since we did beat them twice as well. Stupid troll    wink.gif
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Can you imagine how loud the crowds would chant KD name at Anfield this Sunday?

Hope KD able to sort out the line up problem. LB for Glen Johnson just doesn't work IMO, if Aurelio not available I would choose Konchesky instead, at least that's his natural position.

While Maxi Rodriguez should start as LM for this game. Jovanovic on our previous game is pretty rusty. Joe Cole maybe can play an attacking role linking up Torres or as RM to replace the tired Kuyt.

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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jan 14 2011, 11:22 AM)
Can you imagine how loud the crowds would chant KD name at Anfield this Sunday?

Hope KD able to sort out the line up problem. LB for Glen Johnson just doesn't work IMO, if Aurelio not available I would choose Konchesky instead, at least that's his natural position.

While Maxi Rodriguez should start as LM for this game. Jovanovic on our previous game is pretty rusty. Joe Cole maybe can play an attacking role linking up Torres or as RM to replace the tired Kuyt.
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Another option is play 5 at the back
Johnson - Kelly - Agger - Skrtel - Aurelio

Let the 2 full back going forwards, as Johnson is good in attacking but weak in defending, while Aurelio is good at putting crosses in.

One thing is that, Liv doesn't have aerial attacking power in attack, which is one of weak link.
If on the ground cannot break down opponent, aka you cannot play fluid football on the ground, then you need to use the aerial route.
Somemore, without aerial attacking power, it just means, little chance to score in corner kick. Only Krygiakos has the aerial power for corner, like Hyypia, but Krygiakos defending is questionable.
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Viola linked with Agger move


By ESPNsoccernet staff

Liverpool defender Daniel Agger is reported to be negotiating terms with Fiorentina.

Daniel Agger
PA PhotosDaniel Agger could be on his way out of Anfield

• Agger demands first-team football
• Babel accepts FA charge

Agger, 26, warned recently that he would look to leave the club if he was not a first-team regular. There appears little reason for the player to act on that threat - he has made four appearances already in January, starting both games since Kenny Dalglish took charge - but FIFA agent Bernardo Brovarone has claimed he is now discussing a move to Italy.

"The Viola have put forward a contract proposal to Agger, offering him €1.5 million, but he wants €2 million per season," he told Lady Radio. "Now we have to wait and see what Liverpool say about it."

Agger, who joined Liverpool from Brondby in 2006, has also been linked with Tottenham, Arsenal and Juventus.

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Dude, pages ago you're the one calling for his head.  shakehead.gif  doh.gif
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Looking back we were desperate to catch up with the money game with ManU, chelsea, arsenal, and we were hoodwinked by some slick texans with mountains of promises but instead they punctured a hole into a bulldozing tanker which eventually ran aground last season. I would absolve any blame of rafa, .. maybe he took too much upon himself to fight the 2 devils that he lost the focus to motivate & prepare the players but it was the 2 devils that cursed LFc soul.   


That is my gripe with Rafa. Whilst I completely understand the frustration at not being given what he was promised i.e. money, I expect him to get on with his job and not jepordise team morale by constantly undermining the team that he has by stating repeatedly that he needs money to buy new players. Almost anyone could empathise with his predicament but if you ask me, it does the team no good that you blame our poor form last season squarely on the lack of money. While he could do nothing to change that, he could address morale issues which he failed to do so. Are the players to blame? Sure but a part of being a manager i.e. leader is to ensure that you instill fire in their bellies. Maybe we weren't going to win the league, but we should not have dropped points at home against relegation candidates.
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I think the Rafa situation was far more complex rather than a simple case of Rafa should just focus on his job.

The crux of it was that he became far too attached to Liverpool and tried to do too much. He took it upon himself to fight for the fan's corner and the lack of football minds and leadership in the Liverpool hierarchy meant he had to do the bulk of the work of developing not just the first team, but the entire football aspect of the club. So naturally, things became far too complicated and Rafa was overwhelmed by the sheer amount of responsibilities.

I really do feel at the end of the day, Rafa himself became the victim of the mess that was created by G+H. The toxic working environment made him bitter and he became increasingly agitated to just carry on with his job.
Rafa of last season wasnt the same Rafa we first knew. He fought for us and the club, but at the end he was consumed by the G+H cancer.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 14 2011, 01:02 PM)
He's an attention seeking gooner who posts rubbish.
That is my gripe with Rafa. Whilst I completely understand the frustration at not being given what he was promised i.e. money, I expect him to get on with his job and not jepordise team morale by constantly undermining the team that he has by stating repeatedly that he needs money to buy new players. Almost anyone could empathise with his predicament but if you ask me, it does the team no good that you blame our poor form last season squarely on the lack of money. While he could do nothing to change that, he could address morale issues which he failed to do so. Are the players to blame? Sure but a part of being a manager i.e. leader is to ensure that you instill fire in their bellies. Maybe we weren't going to win the league, but we should not have dropped points at home against relegation candidates.
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"i need more (quality) men" rafa. "we have talent but the keys players do get injured in a season, & we rely too much on ...". I sure that is the exact scenario at melwood.

yes the way i see it, we are on the same page on rafa's failure to nip it & instead the constants fighting or griping. I cannot & could not defend his misjudgement to his first piority which was to manage the lfc. (even with constants media harping, fans expectations etc), but as hfi pointed out the are my sympathies too for rafa

a pararell situation if one would allow me to draw, AW work at arsenal now. (in todays bob holmes column, the gunners are liken to a 'best-dressed' guy at the dance but never getting the girl. the fans & esp media have been patient. (i know he won with gunners b4 & its more than 5 years at a single trophy)

I'm saying if rafa had not the media & the owners grovels to shovel & with some pocket change for better quality players just maybe we'll still be in a fight.

Yes, your are right, rafa lost sight in his final season but we were building quite nicely untill the owners said what we accumalated in winnings, CL gates attendances $$ will not go to buying new players but you have to sell to raise funds. deadwood players dont raise much, to chase good talent, go hire the better ones.

ok lets move on, rafa is yesterday now.

back to KD. the first thing (as i have said) we need some belief. At the current situation we'll be realistic even if we win all games in hand, we cant win the league. not this year, not in the foreceable future unless we invest & have the academy chums graduate well.

but look across to london, great academy, (almost) stingiest buys (still better then us)..

even at arsenal with all the young talented players, they havent the opportuntiy to court the 'pretty girl' in seasons. (no disrespect to fan of AW, we all (non gunners fans) like he did but somehow we all know you have to dig in or play ugly to win)

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I want to win the league as much as the next fan but the best we can hope for is that club is run professionally and implement a long term plan to reinvent this club.

I want us to break away from the image that players come here because we so happen to be a prestigious European club some 20 odd years ago. Basically i want to see us become a football institute in the caliber of Barca - a club with a clear vision and built to materialize that vision. They're not just a club that play good football but they have this unique football culture and philosophy that is light years ahead of everyone else.

If that prove to impossible then i wouldnt mind settling for something less like Lyon - a club that has been designed to not be player or manager dependent. They are not as massive and pretty as Barca but they do have a stable structure, progressive youth development and can adapt to whatever situation.
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liverpool confirmed want to buy luis suarez?
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 14 2011, 02:30 PM)
I want to win the league as much as the next fan but the best we can hope for is that club is run professionally and implement a long term plan to reinvent this club.

I want us to break away from the image that players come here because we so happen to be a prestigious European club some 20 odd years ago. Basically i want to see us become a football institute in the caliber of Barca - a club with a clear vision and built to materialize that vision. They're not just a club that play good football but they have this unique football culture and philosophy that is light years ahead of everyone else.

If that prove to impossible then i wouldnt mind settling for something less like Lyon - a club that has been designed to not be player or manager dependent. They are not as massive and pretty as Barca but they do have a stable structure, progressive youth development and can adapt to whatever situation.
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Couldn't agree with you more on this. We're not gonna be a running water tap like Man City.

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i heard ajax claimed that the striker valued around 15 million pounds and i hope we can get him. he is strong right? and young?
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15 mil is cheap nowadays for a well known striker.
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QUOTE(PPZ @ Jan 14 2011, 03:40 PM)
i heard ajax claimed that the striker valued around 15 million pounds and i hope we can get him. he is strong right? and young?
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We have Torres, Ngog, Babel, Cole, Jova, Kuyt in attacking department, so would prefer to spent a lot of money on a strong aggressive ball winning defensive midfielder... Poulsen or Lucas are too soft and slow to play that role. Our defenses are over exposed and forced to make a lot of mistakes.
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Eh? We're buying a well known blatant cheater and we are supposed to be happy about it? Flaming heck, I'd rather see konchesky as a striker than have that fella onboard. Wouldn't sign him even if he paid us instead!!!
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can change the manager info on first page , still the Roy there .. rclxub.gif

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+1 too. Remember how much we paid for Dossena, Keane, or Morientes?  blush.gif
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Eh? We're buying a well known blatant cheater and we are supposed to be happy about it? Flaming heck, I'd rather see konchesky as a striker than have that fella onboard. Wouldn't sign him even if he paid us instead!!!
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I dont know what you're on about, honestly, calling Suarez a cheater? He put his hands to stop the ball, admitted to it and gets a red. What sort of cheating is that ? We dont go around and call every guy who puts his hands up to stop the ball a cheater do we ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 14 2011, 05:20 PM)
Eh? We're buying a well known blatant cheater and we are supposed to be happy about it? Flaming heck, I'd rather see konchesky as a striker than have that fella onboard. Wouldn't sign him even if he paid us instead!!!
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a good player and dont mind him here. diouf is far more worst than him. not that i'm okay with what he did but tbh henry and maradona should get the same cheater treatment...

make you wonder, how many player would respond like fowler did when seaman 'tripped' him years back? not many..
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he sacrificed himself for the team, and it wasn't his fault when the opponent missed the penalty... he's a good player.
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Jan 14 2011, 06:14 PM)
I dont know what you're on about, honestly, calling Suarez a cheater? He put his hands to stop the ball, admitted to it and gets a red. What sort of cheating is that ? We dont go around and call every guy who puts his hands up to stop the ball a cheater do we ?  laugh.gif
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Huh ? The fact that he did use his arm to stop the ball proved he cheated in the game. Just because he got caught doing it doesnt make it any less of a cheater. Having said this, i really dont care about the incident, Suarez was punished. The thing is majority of players have cheated at some point in their career. Be it diving, faking injury, time wasting, ball hugging etc. I dont condone it but cheating is a very human behaviour.
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Cristiano Ronaldo is a proven Diver, hence "Cheater" as some guys labeled it

would you sign him for the club for 20Million Pounds if RM is willing to let him go?

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tuncay sanli is quite good too, no? i mean for his price.. he's also quite the ganas type if i'm not mistaken.. means he won't fall down easily, and he will fight for the ball.. would make a good partner for torres..?
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i wonder, was everton has so much passion with their club? so i look around on the web and see what they post on everton forum...ouch!.. there's so much hatred in their post..
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i wonder, was everton has so much passion with their club? so i look around on the web and see what they post on everton forum...ouch!.. there's so much hatred in their post..
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He can play both the strikers position and goalkeeper if my memory serves me right tongue.gif
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QUOTE(normeck @ Jan 15 2011, 12:06 AM)
i wonder, was everton has so much passion with their club? so i look around on the web and see what they post on everton forum...ouch!.. there's so much hatred in their post..
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The situation was a lot more different if u go back to 15 years or 20 years ago.
We Kopites and the Toffees used to sit together when ever there's a merseyside derby match played.
U can see , Blues and Reds fans sitting next to each other and enjoy the game with a lot of chit chatting or hugging.
In some merseyside family , the father might be a Kopite, however the son or daughter might be a Toffee and the grandchildren are Reds.

However, things have turned around quite a lot for the last 10 or 15 years , many thanks to the English Media for turning the heat up between us.
I know that since Shankly's era, there's hate between us , but not to this extreme smile.gif

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I dont know what you're on about, honestly, calling Suarez a cheater? He put his hands to stop the ball, admitted to it and gets a red. What sort of cheating is that ? We dont go around and call every guy who puts his hands up to stop the ball a cheater do we ?  laugh.gif
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I'm with madmoz on this one. So he admitted to it but he was happy to do it. I really feel for Gyan and his team. Would Suarez have done what he did if the match had just kicked off? Very unlikely. Opinions are still split and I imagine they will be for the foreseeable future. I don't care about other teams, I care about bringing in "Liverpool type players", in terms of attitude anyway. Did anyone greet Diouf's signing with excitement? Perhaps but I hated him from the moment I saw him flopping about during the World Cup. Maybe Suarez will redeem himself and maybe not, but until then...

Yes Gerrard cheated and worse, he openly condemned diving so there, no bias on my behalf. His actions disappointed me. When I say "Liverpool type player", I refer to Jamie Carragher, a good honest, hard working bloke who plays his heart out each time.


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QUOTE(normeck @ Jan 15 2011, 12:06 AM)
i wonder, was everton has so much passion with their club? so i look around on the web and see what they post on everton forum...ouch!.. there's so much hatred in their post..
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There is a reason they're called "the bitters".

You should pick up a copy of Carra's biography and see what he has to say about the matter, having been a boyhood Evertonian.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 15 2011, 04:13 PM)
I'm with madmoz on this one. So he admitted to it but he was happy to do it. I really feel for Gyan and his team. Would Suarez have done what he did if the match had just kicked off? Very unlikely. Opinions are still split and I imagine they will be for the foreseeable future. I don't care about other teams, I care about bringing in "Liverpool type players", in terms of attitude anyway. Did anyone greet Diouf's signing with excitement? Perhaps but I hated him from the moment I saw him flopping about during the World Cup. Maybe Suarez will redeem himself and maybe not, but until then...

Yes Gerrard cheated and worse, he openly condemned diving so there, no bias on my behalf. His actions disappointed me. When I say "Liverpool type player", I refer to Jamie Carragher, a good honest, hard working bloke who plays his heart out each time.


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There is a reason they're called "the bitters".

You should pick up a copy of Carra's biography and see what he has to say about the matter, having been a boyhood Evertonian.
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Time had past. Player mentality had change since then. I don't thing we had much off the player nowadays...
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let's talk abt tomorrow's game.

hopefully KD will give a chance to our youngster like pacheco and jay spearing.

kelly should start on the right.

my starting XI would be:-


----------------------------reina----------------------------

----kelly--------skrtel---------agger---------aurelio------

---------------------meireles-------------------------------

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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Jan 15 2011, 08:13 PM)
let's talk abt tomorrow's game.

hopefully KD will give a chance to our youngster like pacheco and jay spearing.

kelly should start on the right.

my starting XI would be:-
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----kelly--------skrtel---------agger---------aurelio------

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take out skrtel and put in wilson
put pacheco in the sub bench and play him in the 70th min if either maxi or babel suks
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QUOTE(mr_nobigdeal @ Jan 15 2011, 08:13 PM)
let's talk abt tomorrow's game.

hopefully KD will give a chance to our youngster like pacheco and jay spearing.

kelly should start on the right.

my starting XI would be:-
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we short one player....
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QUOTE(normeck @ Jan 15 2011, 08:40 PM)
we short one player....
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we short one player....
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well there are rules in the game, and why there are punishments for tackling, for holding back players, for delibrately pulling down opponents through on goal. if a hand ball is considered cheating, why arent all those cheating?

you commit a foul, and you get punished for the crime. that is not cheating. cheating to me is you commit something with the intention of getting away with it.


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as long as suarez doesnt mess up the backroom, who cares?
he a good player...
but i disagree with his handball..
it kills all the hardwork....

4 years of hardwork, and get knocked out by handball, then the players need to wait another 4 years

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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 16 2011, 12:33 AM)
well there are rules in the game, and why there are punishments for tackling, for holding back players, for delibrately pulling down opponents through on goal. if a hand ball is considered cheating, why arent all those cheating?

you commit a foul, and you get punished for the crime. that is not cheating. cheating to me is you commit something with the intention of getting away with it.
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Not really. Cheating is basically an act of breaking some rules for the sake of gaining an advantage. It doesnt matter whether or not you had the intention of getting away with it. The moment you consciously break the rules to gain an advantage, you already commiting yourself to cheating. Diving to gain a penalty or free kick or to get someone sent off is cheating. Handballing to prevent a goal bound strike is cheating. Handballing to prevent the ball from going out of bounds ala Henry against Ireland is also cheating. Pulling a man down to prevent him from going on goal when you're the last man is cheating.
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Not really. Cheating is basically an act of breaking some rules for the sake of gaining an advantage. It doesnt matter whether or not you had the intention of getting away with it. The moment you consciously break the rules to gain an advantage, you already commiting yourself to cheating. Diving to gain a penalty or free kick or to get someone sent off is cheating. Handballing to prevent a goal bound strike is cheating. Handballing to prevent the ball from going out of bounds ala Henry against Ireland is also cheating. Pulling a man down to prevent him from going on goal when you're the last man is cheating.
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Its not really clearly defined though. Maybe to someone else, cheating can be a different thing or a heavier thing on the pitch.
How you define cheating does not necessarily means that its the only definition.
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Celebrating and being held up as a hero after a blatant unsporting act is a big no no for me. You can call it heroics etc, but I hardly feel the need to have a character like his in the squad. I am sure they are better options out there.

As for Gerrard, I believe you all already know what I think of his hypocrisy.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 16 2011, 10:49 AM)
Celebrating and being held up as a hero after a blatant unsporting act is a big no no for me. You can call it heroics etc, but I hardly feel the need to have a character like his in the squad. I am sure they are better options out there.

As for Gerrard, I believe you all already know what I think of his hypocrisy.
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Thing is, nobody would know what you would do for a game like this. Take for an example, you are representing your country in the world cup. Yes you might say all the more reason not to behave like he did. But you really dont know until you are in that situation, that cross from the side and your last thing that stoods between a goal or not. Adrenaline starts to kick in, professionally or not, you are going to stop the ball at all cost from going across the line if you think you got a chance to win the game. He did, gambled and gambled well. Can't really feel that sorry for the opposing team as they were awarded fair accordingly.

And i hardly find a player that doesnt do that in the game today. I believe every player or most will at least had done something that you called unsporting be it a small dive or intentional hand ball. Maybe you have seen some players that are that 'sporting' but who knows, the moment hasn't come to them yet.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 16 2011, 01:33 AM)
well there are rules in the game, and why there are punishments for tackling, for holding back players, for delibrately pulling down opponents through on goal. if a hand ball is considered cheating, why arent all those cheating?

you commit a foul, and you get punished for the crime. that is not cheating. cheating to me is you commit something with the intention of getting away with it.
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i'm sure if 'such' a situation arises, instingtively the defender 'saves' a goal bound , of course there are consequences (red) in the rules, but for the sake/need of saving the team, i'm would think there a high chance even a Lfc would be in the situation risks it. There is no chance to think but a reflex actions. its difficult to label him a cheater unlike..

as going down without a any contact in a non threatening part of the pitch (look at last night korea vs iran). thats fooling the ref.

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I stress again that it wis the 'celebrating like a hero' part that really irks me. Hardly any need to rub it into the faces of your opponents when you have won via an unsporting act.

At any rate, is he not a quick nimble fella like Torres and we are instead looking for a battering ram.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 16 2011, 12:33 AM)
well there are rules in the game, and why there are punishments for tackling, for holding back players, for delibrately pulling down opponents through on goal. if a hand ball is considered cheating, why arent all those cheating?

you commit a foul, and you get punished for the crime. that is not cheating. cheating to me is you commit something with the intention of getting away with it.
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cynically holding back players, for delibrately pulling down opponents through on goal is cheating ... current punishment is not a deterrent enough to stop these cheats ... i would support a 10 minutes sin bin for each one of them .. so instead of 'taking it for the team' if they do it, they will inconvenience their team even more...

for the Suarez part, Uruguay should be punished by playing with 10 man or a goal down from the start for the next 3 matches...


if Suarez can think of a way to get away with it, he would have... but its too blatant to even bother doing it... if a cheat get caught for his act and got punished, he is still a cheat...


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Thing is, nobody would know what you would do for a game like this. Take for an example, you are representing your country in the world cup. Yes you might say all the more reason not to behave like he did. But you really dont know until you are in that situation, that cross from the side and your last thing that stoods between a goal or not. Adrenaline starts to kick in, professionally or not, you are going to stop the ball at all cost from going across the line if you think you got a chance to win the game. He did, gambled and gambled well. Can't really feel that sorry for the opposing team as they were awarded fair accordingly.

And i hardly find a player that doesnt do that in the game today. I believe every player or most will at least had done something that you called unsporting be it a small dive or intentional hand ball. Maybe you have seen some players that are that 'sporting' but who knows, the moment hasn't come to them yet.
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The Ghana penalty taker does not have to be put in a position where the weight of the continent be put on his shoulder.... its not his fault.... you dont want to wish that position on anybody...

a fair compensation to Ghana for what Suarez did is a penalty kick without the goalkeeper...

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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 16 2011, 12:38 PM)
The Ghana penalty taker does not have to be put in a position where the weight of the continent be put on his shoulder.... its not his fault.... you dont want to wish that position on anybody...

a fair compensation to Ghana for what Suarez did is a penalty kick without the goalkeeper...
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Well, everybody has his or her opinion to what is the fair compensation.
The compensation im referring to is based on the rules of FIFA. In the sense of FIFA, they were fairly awarded. If you do convert or don't, thats a different matter. Anyway to me, he should be aware as to be the no.1 penalty spot-taker for your whole country, to duly deliver when needed to no matter what the circumstances is.
I rest my case and saying i would welcome Suarez to the club.

Lets get the ball rolling today. We just have to get a result tonight.
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King kenny left Liverpool after the game againts everton that finished 4-4 in the FA CUP...at that time Liverpool is still at the top of the league..quite sad when he said that he leave because of pressure...but he able to handle it after few weeks and want to be back at anfield but liverpool never call him back...so he decided to join blackburn...ermmm...if he still there...i wonder...
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guys, wat time the game start? 0900 or 1000?

got different sos from internet.

plan to watch online.
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The Liverpool team in full is: Reina, Kelly, Johnson, Skrtel, Agger, Meireles, Lucas, Spearing, Maxi, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Kyrgiakos, Cole, Aurelio, Shelvey, Pacheco, Babel.


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hm... 451 ??
lets see how Meireles, Lucas, Spearing, Maxi combining..
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hm... 451 ??
lets see how Meireles, Lucas, Spearing, Maxi combining..
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Good to see Spearing given a start. Anyone could see that he's at least as good as Poulsen. Being a local lad, he'll be up for this one. Just hope his enthusiasm doesn't get the better of him.
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can anyone let me know wer to watch the game online.
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taik.. mase ni pulak 60 saat.. ader live streaming?


Added on January 16, 2011, 10:17 pmfantastic kelly!

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Kelly is dominating his area. GOod!
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Who says we don't have quick centrebacks? Kelly is 6'3" and look at him go! Also not many beat Fellaini in the air
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Torres runs up to Moyes, shows a finger (as if to say SHUT UP) EPIC!


Added on January 16, 2011, 10:23 pmOh no, Torres! yawn.gif

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Try this link http://atdhe.net/32688/watch-liverpool-vs-everton

Make sure to bookmark it... biggrin.gif

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Who says we don't have quick centrebacks? Kelly is 6'3" and look at him go! Also not many beat Fellaini in the air
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great game so far..meireles giving away ball at times
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meireles always overkick the ball. and its not his first time...
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We're terrible at set-piece defending, not surprisingly.

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in the mean time, meireles not giving enough support to our No. 9...
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yeah...meireles...
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placing is fantastic...credit to superb header too...

and GJ should be a winger....not a rightback..


Added on January 16, 2011, 10:37 pmMaxiii!! haiyaaa!!!

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great play by our player now...start attacking but dont forget to defend also...
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good first half, and Torres is helping alot!

Good Jay Spearing!
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spearing adds something to midfield... since lucas and meireles cant do any good long and adventerous pass
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The youngsters are really performing so far. Pity that Maxi didn't manage to drill the loose ball in too.
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its a good half,its been a while we play such eye catching attacking football!
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Credit to all players for encouraging performance and in particular Torres n Merieles. Both are on fire. Any chance fall on anyone of them will result in goal. Mark my word. We showed that we want it more than Everton.
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since the departure of Xabi Alonso & Javier Mascherano, till now our team fail to fill up that position (defensive midfielder)...Poulsen fail to do the job at the moment...Lucas also needs a lot to learn...Meireles & Spearing more on central midfielder (similar to Stevie G's role)...

what say u my fren?
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QUOTE(shinzan @ Jan 16 2011, 10:59 PM)
since the departure of Xabi Alonso & Javier Mascherano, till now our team fail to fill up that position (defensive midfielder)...Poulsen fail to do the job at the moment...Lucas also needs a lot to learn...Meireles & Spearing more on central midfielder (similar to Stevie G's role)...

what say u my fren?
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We've been giving credit to the players but let's not forget the fans who are in full voice. Chants of "Dalglish" are echoing around Anfield. Good also to see King Kenny celebrating like he just scored! I've always liked a manager who displays emotion.
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Everton's defending has been poor so far. I think they are slow and at times lazy. Liverpool are really unlucky not to score more than they did sweat.gif
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hoping for more good football from our boys in 2nd half...


Added on January 16, 2011, 11:09 pmaiyaa...agger injured?

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skrtle lagi....
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poor defence -.-................... agger injured? again?

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hmm...still the same mistake...as always, Skrtel didnt deserve to play at center back...
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lol we're losing confidence eh? i'm thinking Liverpool should really crack Everton if they're really playing fragile.
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my uncle is really getting pissed now..he was so happy wif King Kenny back..right now he is boiling hot..he saying Liverpool got the wrong King..he say the players would still play badly if they had the real King..King Raja..Rajagobal..really pity my uncle this season..

He is just so passionate since all those glory days..but this season. every game he is sad..
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We will get another goal...
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its a very low confidence among the players just now...
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QUOTE(apiy @ Jan 16 2011, 11:27 PM)
sebab itu saya kata xpayah tukar pemilik kalau  tak boleh beli pemain yg bagus..sama saja yg lama ...
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QUOTE(apiy @ Jan 17 2011, 12:27 AM)
sebab itu saya kata xpayah tukar pemilik kalau  tak boleh beli pemain yg bagus..sama saja yg lama ...
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substitution incoming! we need to inject more passion!
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defense is poor, torres is getting his yellow card already. he's been poor in the second half n his negative playing affects the attacking. im not sure he's going to score 1 towards the end so i reckon better sub him with ngog
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dont forget to defend...
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Kuyt picks up the ball to restart the game fast.

MAXI!!! Why do you give away such easy fouls and free kicks!?!?!?!
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Yes ! That's the spirit!. Come on ! Kuyt scored against Everton once again. His 3rd goal in as many derby against Toffees
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we're still not good enough in set piece (corner taking)...
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Meireles out for Jonjo.
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come on...we 1 more 3 point
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1 goal is gud enuf...
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we've got another decision against us.

But I think for a 2-2 (full time), its still a good result.

We're improving.
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Kelly shouldn't go soft with Anichebe , afterall it is a derby , kick that @ss out .I cant believe with body like him , he hardly give Anichebe hard time when dealing with high ball.Shelvey has some good vision compare to Meireles , for me now Meireles is like mascherano player if he try to improve his tackling.Torres is been back to his best now and luck is not on his side today.I can see he is hungrier to score against those dirty evertonian
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tahun lepas dengan 10 orang pun kita boleh menang dengan everton
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we got to a promising start under kenny first home game but were undone by two skrtel's schoolboy defending. great
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FT 2-2.

Better result.
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not happy at all with the result.

maxi shud be gone next season. this player is not up to EPL standard.

and why liverpool especially kuyt always like to pass with high ball?

bcoz we always kept losing the ball with this style of passing.






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not happy at all with the result.

maxi shud be gone next season. this player is not up to EPL standard.

and why liverpool especially kuyt always like to pass with high ball?

bcoz we always kept losing the ball with this style of passing.






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QUOTE(apiy @ Jan 16 2011, 11:59 PM)
mana liverpool 08'-09...masa tu memang sedap tengok..berbeza betul dengan sekarang
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maxi was nowhere to be seen in 2nd half...
we are lucky cahill is in qatar though tongue.gif
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The youngsters are great...

Kelly - Great decision making. Pretty solid barring that goal-leading header
Shelvey - Causing some chaos when he first subbed in
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QUOTE(leaF @ Jan 17 2011, 12:02 AM)
Kelly shouldn't go soft with Anichebe , afterall it is a derby , kick that @ss out .I cant believe with body like him , he hardly give Anichebe hard time when dealing with high ball.Shelvey has some good vision compare to Meireles , for me now Meireles is like mascherano player if he try to improve his tackling.Torres is been back to his best now and luck is not on his side today.I can see he is hungrier to score against those dirty evertonian
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his only good pass was for torres goal agains chelsea.....
he is aggresive and willing to chase any players...
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you guys should look from more positive side , we are playing proper football now compare to RH time , Torres getting more chances nowaday , you can see a 32 old man that run for his life in right flank ..that is the spirit of Liverpool Football Club..if you want Glory and win all the time here is not the right place
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we got to a promising start under kenny first home game but were undone by two skrtel's schoolboy defending. great
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skrtel frequently making mistakes this season and punished for it
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dari apa yg saya lihat midfield kita banyak berjalan dr berlari utk dapatkan bola..tak macam team lain...contoh bale,nani
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mana liverpool 08'-09...masa tu memang sedap tengok..berbeza betul dengan sekarang
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if you just want to support the team during their ups and keep on complaining while they are trying to regain their form and confidence, plus your constant banter for "beli la pemain yg bagus...kalau x boleh beli xpayah tukar pemilik hari tu..sama je" BS, then you're better off supporting those mega-rich clubs(i.e. City, Chelsea, Man U etc) geez...

back to the game, Our defense was ripped apart the moment agger left the field. poor defending by Skrtel costs us the 3 points today. He's way below his best, most probably negative football that's being employed for the greater part of this season affected his confidence level. I still have faith in him and in KD to instill confidence back into Skrtel so that he could perform to the level that he used to be. Kelly on the other hand has been doing his job quite well, and his overlapping is quite promising. A great prospect for our future.

On the engine room, while we have a bunch of dynamos in our team in the form of kuyt, meireles and lucas, today's game clearly shows that we are lacking in creativity. we can't keep on depending on gerrard for some dose of creativity. and both maxi and kuyt, they should stop trying to dribble past defenders at all time. a simple 1-2 passing will do much better in this kind of physical game.

Upfront, Torres finally looks hungry for goal, something amiss from him for most of the first half of this season. He fights for the ball upfront, he closes down the opposing def almost all the time, and his touches, almost at his best. with better support from the midfield in supplying quality ball up front, he could be back into his scoring self.

Looking at the games ahead, I'm still waiting at how the current team would play with Gerrard and Carra commandering them with KD at the sideline shouting instructions. The players need to take one game at a time and regain their confidence.

p.s. am thinking, how would KD utilize Joe Cole? somehow, I do have this feeling that negative football during RH's time put a limit on Cole's efficiency upfront. who knows..
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saw a group of reds at tropika corner,melatiwas it myrawk gathering or something?

btw again we had a very good start but luck wasn't on our side
everton's first goal was supposed to be a goal kick :/

skrtel should buckle up a bit,he's kinda too soft, we should play more through passes instead of changing sides

overall,it was okay but we should've win it
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When are we gonna get luck?not in my lifetime i guess.its always mu that gets that luck.just watch the tottenham game and u guys will understand what i mean cry.gif

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Well the result slowly but surely improves under KD. Only mistake in defending corners and unlucky strike denied us 3 points. After Blackpool game, KD demanded improvement in final third and the players responded positively especially in the first half.

Btw is Meireles the best player to take the corner? I think he is better stay in the midfield to capitalize on loose ball and unleash his thunder bolt.
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I would sum up the performance tonight, 2 sloppy defence cost the game.
Unchallenged header on 1st goal
CB out of position on 2nd goal.

Skrtel is very shaky this season, rarely win header in the penalty box during opponent corner time.
Krygiakos is average in defending.

If Carra not coming back soon, a CB is needed in the transfer window, Agger is too injury prone.

Changing the CB during half time, straight away conceded 2 goals. sweat.gif

Good thing, more football play on the ground.
and Kelly know how to send thru pass to Torres, this is something missing quite sometimes.
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its time to replace Skrtel with Danny Wilson...
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QUOTE(elnino @ Jan 17 2011, 12:20 AM)
if you just want to support the team during their ups and keep on complaining while they are trying to regain their form and confidence, plus your constant banter for "beli la pemain yg bagus...kalau x boleh beli xpayah tukar pemilik hari tu..sama je" BS, then you're better off supporting those mega-rich clubs(i.e. City, Chelsea, Man U etc) geez...

back to the game, Our defense was ripped apart the moment agger left the field. poor defending by Skrtel costs us the 3 points today. He's way below his best, most probably negative football that's being employed for the greater part of this season affected his confidence level. I still have faith in him and in KD to instill confidence back into Skrtel so that he could perform to the level that he used to be. Kelly on the other hand has been doing his job quite well, and his overlapping is quite promising. A great prospect for our future.

On the engine room, while we have a bunch of dynamos in our team in the form of kuyt, meireles and lucas, today's game clearly shows that we are lacking in creativity. we can't keep on depending on gerrard for some dose of creativity. and both maxi and kuyt, they should stop trying to dribble past defenders at all time. a simple 1-2 passing will do much better in this kind of physical game.

Upfront, Torres finally looks hungry for goal, something amiss from him for most of the first half of this season. He fights for the ball upfront, he closes down the opposing def almost all the time, and his touches, almost at his best. with better support from the midfield in supplying quality ball up front, he could be back into his scoring self.

Looking at the games ahead, I'm still waiting at how the current team would play with Gerrard and Carra commandering them with KD at the sideline shouting instructions. The players need to take one game at a time and regain their confidence.

p.s. am thinking, how would KD utilize Joe Cole? somehow, I do have this feeling that negative football during RH's time put a limit on Cole's efficiency upfront. who knows..
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At least we don't see a frustated Torres.
Play with confidence.

Kyut is simply magnificent in dynamo way.
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sloppy defence.....our def player juz look soo....beatable....n torres havent get back to his form yet.....sight...
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Skrtel is very shaky this season, rarely win header in the penalty box during opponent corner time.

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Our defense is pretty bad...I think our defense is worse than Wolves' when Carra or Agger is not around (esp. Carra)! Very bad marking and awareness in the box...I've supported Liverpool since about 10 years ago but I've never seen our defense so shaky and lack of confidence to win headers. Everytime Everton take a corner or free kick my heart is pounding...

No wonder we are terrible under Uncle Woy, he's trying his best to play a defensive approach with counter attacks and long balls/hoofs....but our defense is the one causing all sorts of problems to ourselves and losing confidence in the process.

I think all the other EPL teams will know how to break down our defence...by simply delivering high or long balls with or without set pieces. Sigh...we need to get a CB fast. Agger has issues with his injuries and if it continues, It will not do us any good. We were too reliant on Carra's shouting and instructions, and hell break lose when he's not around.

Skrtel still doesn't seem World Class to me, I've seen him day in and day out...and he's just an average mistake prone CB. We could get rid of him or injury prone Agger and get another proper CB please. Someone who can shout and command in case Carra isn't around.

In our attacking department, things are looking not bad. Even when we are missing Gerrard, we still have shots on target and Torres just lack a bit of luck today to nick at least one goal. I hope Gerrard returns and make the whole team stronger by supplying more passes, make more forward runs and open up more spaces for the others.

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Sad to see Liverpool struggling to qualify for next season Europa League spot...
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No need to further elaborate on our defensive frailties I see. We just collapsed in the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. Skrtel in particular has been looking out of depth in the heart of our defence. He had a good first season but since then, has looked distinctively average. Now Skrtel isn't a small bloke at 6' 3" but he seems to have lead in his feet and isn't as strong in the air as one would expect of a bloke his stature. He looks increasingly uncomfortable dealing with players who dance over the ball as well. Daniel Agger on the other hand I can see staying. King Kenny clearly sees the importance of having a centreback who is composed on the ball and can build from the back ala Alan Hansen. It's just a matter of finding him a defensive partner to complement him. No wonder Kenny's looking.

All in all, I have to say that it was a good derby game despite us dropping 2 points. We had chances which we failed to convert most notably Torres smacking the ball of the post, Kuyt missing the follow-up and Maxi hitting his volley straight into the arms of Howard. I think Phil Dowd did an excellent job last night so props to him. Derbies aren't easy to officiate and I think he was fair and clean in all his decisions. Props to him especially after Mr. Webb's poor outing in our last match.

I just have to give credit to the young lads as well. Jay Spearing hasn't played too many games this season but he took to it like a duck takes to water. He gave away a cheap ball at the start but other than that, had a spotless game if you ask me. I can't see why he's been shelved for Poulsen all this while. Maybe it's because he is a local lad that Kenny chose to start him but he repaid the gaffas faith in him with interest. Anyone remember that full blooded challenge he made on Leighton Baines was it towards the end of the second half? Here's a tiny guy (he's only 5'6") that plays with a giant heart and with his inclusion, not since the mid 80s have we not fielded at least one local lad in the Merseyside derby.

Jonjo Shelvey did well coming on late and showed a lot of maturity in the way he played his teammates into space. He clearly has a creative mind and I think its only a matter of time before he blossoms and plays for the England U-21s. Lets not forget that he is only 18 years old at the moment.

The best performer for me however was Martin Kelly. A natural centreback but playing at rightback, you'd think that's where he starts each game for the ressies. He got forward well and unlike certain fullbacks who forget they need to defend, he is a pillar of strength at the back as well. In the opening 10 minutes he beat Feillani in the air, and that doesn't happen often. In the game against the mancs, Fergie clearly wanted to take advantage of the fact he was raw and played the ball down our right flank frequently only to find a formidable opponent in Kelly. It was the same last night and as much as Kelly got forward, he got back when it matters. Lets not forget that he's 6'3" but did you see the legs on him as he raided Everton's left early in the second half? He got by 2 defenders before reaching the byline to play a cross him. Heck with him an Agger in the centre, we'd have the quickest (and certainly not the smallest) central defensive pairing in the league.

Ah well, a frustrating result but a good game nonetheless.
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again...defend & midfield was our biggest weaknesses..we hasnt yet replace masch & alonso! cry.gif cry.gif
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Spearing did well last night, some of his tackling was very rigourous (but fair).
Kelly was good in the first half but he was left a bid exposed in the 2nd half when Everton had more possession.
Jonjo impressed with his passing when he came on.

Lucas impressed me in his deep-lying role. He just needs to toughen up a bit.

Might as well salvage something from this season & play the young boys including Wilson & Pacheco. It would be worth finishing mid-table if some young came players came through to the starting 11.
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will KD play Wilson to replace the useless Skrtel?

or buy a better CB now
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QUOTE(berzerk @ Jan 17 2011, 09:08 AM)
Spearing did well last night, some of his tackling was very rigourous (but fair).
Kelly was good in the first half but he was left a bid exposed in the 2nd half when Everton had more possession.
Jonjo impressed with his passing when he came on.

Lucas impressed me in his deep-lying role. He just needs to toughen up a bit.

Might as well salvage something from this season & play the young boys including Wilson & Pacheco. It would be worth finishing mid-table if some young came players came through to the starting 11.
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Liverpool really need a good center defender and a holding-midfielder. The second goal for Everton is a really bloody lame defend from Liverpol, we should not have conceded the second goal!!!
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Liverpool really need a good center defender and a holding-midfielder. The second goal for Everton is a really bloody lame defend from Liverpol, we should not have conceded the second goal!!!
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seems like KK wants to buy downing and mark van bommel..
MVB is a good buy although he's kinda old but I pity poulsen and the youngsters tongue.gif
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is it true king kenny doesnt want to buy any player?
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QUOTE(redkord @ Jan 17 2011, 11:56 AM)
is it true king kenny doesnt want to buy any player?
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It's more like he's trying to motivate the current players, without publicly announcing the area that need to bring new faces.

You're only as good as your last game. There is no need for us keep looking backward of our glorious moment.
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QUOTE(Yluxion @ Jan 17 2011, 01:08 PM)
It's more like he's trying to motivate the current players, without publicly announcing the area that need to bring new faces.

You're only as good as your last game. There is no need for us keep looking backward of our glorious moment.
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Our defense is pretty bad...I think our defense is worse than Wolves' when Carra or Agger is not around (esp. Carra)! Very bad marking and awareness in the box...I've supported Liverpool since about 10 years ago but I've never seen our defense so shaky and lack of confidence to win headers. Everytime Everton take a corner or free kick my heart is pounding...

No wonder we are terrible under Uncle Woy, he's trying his best to play a defensive approach with counter attacks and long balls/hoofs....but our defense is the one causing all sorts of problems to ourselves and losing confidence in the process.

I think all the other EPL teams will know how to break down our defence...by simply delivering high or long balls with or without set pieces. Sigh...we need to get a CB fast. Agger has issues with his injuries and if it continues, It will not do us any good. We were too reliant on Carra's shouting and instructions, and hell break lose when he's not around.

Skrtel still doesn't seem World Class to me, I've seen him day in and day out...and he's just an average mistake prone CB. We could get rid of him or injury prone Agger and get another proper CB please. Someone who can shout and command in case Carra isn't around.

In our attacking department, things are looking not bad. Even when we are missing Gerrard, we still have shots on target and Torres just lack a bit of luck today to nick at least one goal. I hope Gerrard returns and make the whole team stronger by supplying more passes, make more forward runs and open up more spaces for the others.
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i find it comical and ironic that Carra's stock has improved no end by virtue of him not playing! laugh.gif


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Puts paid to the it's a reaction arguement init? Blatant unrepentant cheat. I wish he would go and win his trophies somewhere else.

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i just read back a few pages to find our discussion regarding suarez's handball debate. its a bit late i know but lemme just erm, give my last opinion on this...

football perhaps should adopt basketball's rule of goal tending. if a shot is goal bound, and a player delibrately use illegal ways aka hands to try to divert it, the goal should just stand, and its up to further debate as to whether to red card, yellow card, sin bin etc for that player. i think this will stop such events from occuring again, and i think is the fairest to all parties especially the attacking team

i dont know, if carra one day uses his hand to prevent an everton goal, this will surely spark a mega debate laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 17 2011, 02:29 PM)
i just read back a few pages to find our discussion regarding suarez's handball debate. its a bit late i know but lemme just erm, give my last opinion on this...

football perhaps should adopt basketball's rule of goal tending. if a shot is goal bound, and a player delibrately use illegal ways aka hands to try to divert it, the goal should just stand, and its up to further debate as to whether to red card, yellow card, sin bin etc for that player. i think this will stop such events from occuring again, and i think is the fairest to all parties especially the attacking team

i dont know, if carra one day uses his hand to prevent an everton goal, this will surely spark a mega debate laugh.gif
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i dont know, if carra one day uses his hand to prevent an everton goal, this will surely spark a mega debate laugh.gif
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I'm pretty sure carra will instinctively prevent it.
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He probably will. The real question will be if he openly flaunts the act in public or show remorse (in public). Suarez is too keen to show that he is proud of what he did, which is why I dislike him so much.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 03:09 PM)
He probably will. The real question will be if he openly flaunts the act in public or show remorse (in public). Suarez is too keen to show that he is proud of what he did, which is why I dislike him so much.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 03:09 PM)
He probably will. The real question will be if he openly flaunts the act in public or show remorse (in public). Suarez is too keen to show that he is proud of what he did, which is why I dislike him so much.
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lets face it. nowadays players coming out to confess something, how many are just doing another PR exercise? at least the bloke is honest and brave enough to confess it. anyway he should have just kept quiet abt it biggrin.gif
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Yesterday we are a little bit lucky not to lose the game to Everton. Second half Liverpool play poorly, really really poor, the midfield can't control the ball well, we conceded the ball too easily to opponents and luckily Everton also not in shape yesterday, if not Everton will be the winner.
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i think KD replace Agger is the biggest mistake because Agger player better than Skertel (or maybe Skertel cannot perform without Agger)... Both goals are from Skertel's fault. On other note, Lucas is too slow... i am very tense when Lucas got the ball, eventho he played key role in midfield in stopping Everton's attack but his controlling really needs to improve and speed up because opponents press him very fast and easily he lost the ball... anyway, Anfield was very lively because of KD, not necessary to win game but to impress the fans is more important (remember "Gladiator" movie - win the spectator) smile.gif

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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jan 17 2011, 03:28 PM)
Yesterday we are a little bit lucky not to lose the game to Everton. Second half Liverpool play poorly, really really poor, the midfield can't control the ball well, we conceded the ball too easily to opponents and luckily Everton also not in shape yesterday, if not Everton will be the winner.
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The early 2nd half equaliser doesn't helps. Given Liverpool recent runs, we're low in confidence. I'm sure the players are asking questions in their mind & having doubts, those negative thoughts are costing us.

But I can see there's improvement with just 1 week KD in charge even without both captain & vice captain on the lineup. I'm sure we'll get better. Have faith fellow reds. smile.gif
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QUOTE(feelfree @ Jan 17 2011, 03:28 PM)
Yesterday we are a little bit lucky not to lose the game to Everton. Second half Liverpool play poorly, really really poor, the midfield can't control the ball well, we conceded the ball too easily to opponents and luckily Everton also not in shape yesterday, if not Everton will be the winner.
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sorry bro...i tot everton were the one who were lucky not to loose...i cant remember they create many chances,but i'm surely remember liv got 2-3 good chances including torres which came back off the post..overall liv played good futbol but individual mistake cost us! shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(manx @ Jan 17 2011, 03:41 PM)
i think KD replace Agger is the biggest mistake because Agger player better than Skertel (or maybe Skertel cannot perform without Agger)... Both goals are from Skertel's fault. On other note, Lucas is too slow... i am very tense when Lucas got the ball, eventho he played key role in midfield in stopping Everton's attack but his controlling really needs to improve and speed up because opponents press him very fast and easily he lost the ball... anyway, Anfield was very lively because of KD, not necessary to win game but to impress the fans is more important (remember "Gladiator" movie - win the spectator) smile.gif
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Based on last night commentator, Agger was injured (so far none of news I came across saying what kind of injury), I don't think any manager would want to change the CB at half time, with little threat from opponent.
It was a forced move, I reckon.

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They are a different team. This was the first derby since 2002 that they entered without the men deemed their heart and soul. Minus Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher, Dalglish ensured the natives had two representatives. A couple of surging runs furthered Martin Kelly's burgeoning reputation but Jay Spearing was the surprise inclusion. Compared to Gerrard, whose position he occupied, Spearing is the second-rate Scouser. But one man with an affinity to the club selected another.

"Steven might not get [back] in, you never know," said Dalglish mischievously. "But I don't care where they're born. If Jay had been born in Scotland, he'd still have played."


Interesting comment from KD.

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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 17 2011, 03:10 PM)
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laugh.gif Maybe because i am not by nature a very competitive person and winning is actually secondary for me... I love the fact that Liverpool FC brings so many of us together and also the values that have always been associated with the club and its supporters.

QUOTE(manx @ Jan 17 2011, 03:41 PM)
i think KD replace Agger is the biggest mistake because Agger player better than Skertel (or maybe Skertel cannot perform without Agger)... Both goals are from Skertel's fault.
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Wasn't Agger ill and unable to continue? Although how can one suddenly fall ill baffles me, unless if he was indeed ill before the match. In that case, the lad's not going anywhere - KK must deem him more important than any of the other CBs! laugh.gif

KK tweets, do any of the other managers do that? Seeing him thank the supporters for cheering the team on last night was a refreshing and pleasant change!

Also, Stephen Warnock seems to be coming back on loan! hmm.gif Not too sure about this one, but it is telling that the revamped management seems to have booted Woy's team selection and tactics right out the door... now if we can only convince Mascherano's wife that living in Liverpool is a worthy sacrifice to keep the hubby's career prospects alive laugh.gif

@cherroy KK was being cheeky. brows.gif

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QUOTE(manx @ Jan 17 2011, 03:41 PM)
i think KD replace Agger is the biggest mistake because Agger player better than Skertel (or maybe Skertel cannot perform without Agger)... Both goals are from Skertel's fault. On other note, Lucas is too slow... i am very tense when Lucas got the ball, eventho he played key role in midfield in stopping Everton's attack but his controlling really needs to improve and speed up because opponents press him very fast and easily he lost the ball... anyway, Anfield was very lively because of KD, not necessary to win game but to impress the fans is more important (remember "Gladiator" movie - win the spectator) smile.gif
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Agger was out due to illness. i thought both Skrtel and Krgriakos share the blame for both Everton's goals. Anfield was very lively thanks to the return of KD but if KD don't get to produce a win soon, he will risk of losing the fans support too and also his legendary status will be tarnished. It is important for KD to win ASAP since EPL already entered the 2nd half of the season. One thing i noticed is the confidence growing and the fans no longer abusing the players which should give players a moral boost. Now it is up to the players to step up their game and get a result.


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I doubt anything will ever tarnish our support and love for KK.

He's been at the helm for 7 days only and the specter of Rafa has effectively been banished. Rafa's sitting twiddling his thumbs in Liverpool an not one person is currently campaigning for his return. Woy did not manage to do this in the seven months that he was in charge.

The wins have not come, but the performances and spirit are slowly but surely returning. The fans are no longer bickering internally. We're not out of trouble yet, but we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Having said that, a win would do wonders.

To add to my earlier post, it is telling that Woy's 'boys' barring Meireles seem to have been phased out. Konchesky hasn't made the bench yet so far has he? Even Aurelio seems to have been deemed a lesser player compared to Johnson in an unfamiliar position hmm.gif Poulsen was given a game and quietly discarded. What of Joe Cole? Is he injured or unavailable, or also deemed 'not good enough'? I was under the impression earlier that with KK's approach, he would be favouring players who can actually play?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 04:12 PM)
I doubt anything will ever tarnish our support and love for KK.

He's been at the helm for 7 days only and the specter of Rafa has effectively been banished. Rafa's sitting twiddling his thumbs in Liverpool an not one person is currently campaigning for his return. Woy did not manage to do this in the seven months that he was in charge.

The wins have not come, but the performances and spirit are slowly but surely returning. The fans are no longer bickering internally. We're not out of trouble yet, but we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Having said that, a win would do wonders.

To add to my earlier post, it is telling that Woy's 'boys' barring Meireles seem to have been phased out. Konchesky hasn't made the bench yet so far has he? Even Aurelio seems to have been deemed a lesser player compared to Johnson in an unfamiliar position hmm.gif Poulsen was given a game and quietly discarded. What of Joe Cole? Is he injured or unavailable, or also deemed 'not good enough'? I was under the impression earlier that with KK's approach, he would be favouring players who can actually play?
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i think KD experimenting the squad to see who really worth to play in his first team choice. that's why he release a statement that Stevie G might not get into his team. maybe a challenge statement to pull Gerrard out of his comfort zone and start work very hard to earn his 1st team recognition.

Regarding Woy's mens, not sure. no reports on Joe Cole's injury. Kelly was excellent in RB position which justified his selection. Both Aurelio and Konchesky not very solid in the left back position.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 05:12 PM)
I doubt anything will ever tarnish our support and love for KK.

He's been at the helm for 7 days only and the specter of Rafa has effectively been banished. Rafa's sitting twiddling his thumbs in Liverpool an not one person is currently campaigning for his return. Woy did not manage to do this in the seven months that he was in charge.

The wins have not come, but the performances and spirit are slowly but surely returning. The fans are no longer bickering internally. We're not out of trouble yet, but we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Having said that, a win would do wonders.

To add to my earlier post, it is telling that Woy's 'boys' barring Meireles seem to have been phased out. Konchesky hasn't made the bench yet so far has he? Even Aurelio seems to have been deemed a lesser player compared to Johnson in an unfamiliar position hmm.gif Poulsen was given a game and quietly discarded. What of Joe Cole? Is he injured or unavailable, or also deemed 'not good enough'? I was under the impression earlier that with KK's approach, he would be favouring players who can actually play?
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I dont think he (KD) really cares who's who but would want an inspired team performance & that will need to help from players to ball boys.

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Truth be told, if Suarez does indeed come to Liverpool, I will support and cheer him on. Will never warm up to him though. He will forever be a blatant cheat, but as least he'd be 'our blatant cheat' and deserves a temporary stay of execution laugh.gif


One more thing, if the owners had any doubt about reappointing KK, the ovation he got and the buzz around Anfield last night would have forever dispelled those thoughts.

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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Jan 17 2011, 04:21 PM)
KK? kevin Keagan? it's KD bro. Kenny Dalglish.

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anybody experienced 3D football last night? How was it?
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 03:57 PM)
laugh.gif Maybe because i am not by nature a very competitive person and winning is actually secondary for me... I love the fact that Liverpool FC brings so many of us together and also the values that have always been associated with the club and its supporters.
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Winning or no, I'm just glad that the King is back, I did tell a friend a couple of days ago, winning is secondary now that King Kenny is back, winning is just a bonus and perhaps us finishing mid table may do us, supporters good as well. Less expectation, less pressure towards the players and we can see how many "loyal" players are there in Liverpool.

Kind of like Juventus and Newcastle Utd. They did come back pretty well didn't they?
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Word has it that Liverpool have officially bid for Suarez, this is what i read from the Rawk forums. So take it with a pinch of salt i urge y'all biggrin.gif

Lots of you peeps have put your forth thoughts on Suarez, from being a cheat, right up to being a national hero in Uruguay, I guess that stems from his competitiveness to win cant blame him for being that way although one could wish that he could curb that habit.

If he does indeed come, which looks more likely now, of course ill support him like any other players currently at the club. Gerrard isnt labelled "Starfish" for nothing does that stop us from supporting him?

I dont see the point of chastising a player for his past, could only hope that he can tone down on his antics, & lets not overreact now shall we? Suarez is effin' quality, if we can accept that Diouf, Suarez is miles better off than him!

P.S: We'll be facing United at Anfield, Suarez can dive how many times he wants! laugh.gif

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 04:12 PM)
I doubt anything will ever tarnish our support and love for KK.

He's been at the helm for 7 days only and the specter of Rafa has effectively been banished. Rafa's sitting twiddling his thumbs in Liverpool an not one person is currently campaigning for his return. Woy did not manage to do this in the seven months that he was in charge.

The wins have not come, but the performances and spirit are slowly but surely returning. The fans are no longer bickering internally. We're not out of trouble yet, but we can see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Having said that, a win would do wonders.

To add to my earlier post, it is telling that Woy's 'boys' barring Meireles seem to have been phased out. Konchesky hasn't made the bench yet so far has he? Even Aurelio seems to have been deemed a lesser player compared to Johnson in an unfamiliar position hmm.gif Poulsen was given a game and quietly discarded. What of Joe Cole? Is he injured or unavailable, or also deemed 'not good enough'? I was under the impression earlier that with KK's approach, he would be favouring players who can actually play?
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We dont deserve to lose.. the ref was completetly cluuless to award the corner kick which lead to the first goal...
even second goal was questionable when achinebe challenged the ball unfairly ...

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I love the fact that KD is not afraid to throw in Spearing and kelly even in big games. Let's hope one day Wilson will get his chance too... Out Skrtel, in Wilson tongue.gif
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sorry bro...i tot everton were the one who were lucky not to loose...i cant remember they create many chances,but i'm surely remember liv got 2-3 good chances including torres which came back off the post..overall liv played good futbol but individual mistake cost us! shakehead.gif
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i see Kelly's style of playing and body gesture just like Carra...
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 17 2011, 03:57 PM)
laugh.gif Maybe because i am not by nature a very competitive person and winning is actually secondary for me... I love the fact that Liverpool FC brings so many of us together and also the values that have always been associated with the club and its supporters.
Wasn't Agger ill and unable to continue? Although how can one suddenly fall ill baffles me, unless if he was indeed ill before the match. In that case, the lad's not going anywhere - KK must deem him more important than any of the other CBs! laugh.gif

KK tweets, do any of the other managers do that? Seeing him thank the supporters for cheering the team on last night was a refreshing and pleasant change!

Also, Stephen Warnock seems to be coming back on loan! hmm.gif Not too sure about this one, but it is telling that the revamped management seems to have booted Woy's team selection and tactics right out the door... now if we can only convince Mascherano's wife that living in Liverpool is a worthy sacrifice to keep the hubby's career prospects alive laugh.gif

@cherroy KK was being cheeky.  brows.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 17 2011, 06:41 PM)
I love the fact that KD is not afraid to throw in Spearing and kelly even in big games. Let's hope one day Wilson will get his chance too... Out Skrtel, in Wilson tongue.gif
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thinking the same thing too...Wilson might be novice in EPL but his first team appearances in the Scottish league should help.....thing is Skrtle looks less like a EPL defender each day...sad...really had high hopes for him when he first arrived....

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QUOTE(nando @ Jan 17 2011, 08:24 PM)
convince Mrs Alonso and Alonso jr to build their future at Merseyside will be more important...


Added on January 17, 2011, 8:27 pm

thinking the same thing too...Wilson might be novice in EPL but his first team appearances in the Scottish league should help.....thing is Skrtle looks less like a EPL defender each day...sad...really had high hopes for him when he first arrived....
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Anyway, on another note, seems like KD is very very daring indeed. Publicly talks about Konchesky and Poulsen tongue.gif

Kenny Dalglish: I've got to rebuild shattered duo Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen to make my squad stronger

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1BIORd4x5

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aqua is not coming back and dont blame him either. a mistake made by purslow (not RH mind you) loaning him to juve.

kelly need at least another year to blossom in RB before converting him to CB. much like Carra.. Rafa transform him from average utility player to a top CB in Europe. lets hope KD can do the same with kelly.
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the luis suarez transfer getting stronger by the day!! thumbup.gif

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/...go-hunting.html


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QUOTE(triple02 @ Jan 17 2011, 05:54 PM)
Word has it that Liverpool have officially bid for Suarez, this is what i read from the Rawk forums. So take it with a pinch of salt i urge y'all biggrin.gif

Lots of you peeps have put your forth thoughts on Suarez, from being a cheat, right up to being a national hero in Uruguay,  I guess that stems from his competitiveness to win cant blame him for being that way although one could wish that he could curb that habit.

If he does indeed come, which looks more likely now, of course ill support him like any other players currently at the club.  Gerrard isnt labelled "Starfish" for nothing does that stop us from supporting him?

I dont see the point of chastising a player for his past, could only hope that he can tone down on his antics, & lets not overreact now shall we? Suarez is effin' quality, if we can accept that Diouf, Suarez is miles better off than him!

P.S: We'll be facing United at Anfield, Suarez can dive how many times he wants! laugh.gif
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post Jan 18 2011, 10:44 AM

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news bout our young reds...

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proof that Suso is a massively talented player...they even created his thread at m.u forum!!

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/fernandez-suso-318258/

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haha so excited with all the new players and transfer rumours smile.gif
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He seem like skillful and most importantly not a selfish player...
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Here's that video of the match. The lad makes the rest of our boys look bad which is no small feat.
Especially since, finishing aside, the youth make our first team's play look really bad.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 18 2011, 11:35 AM)


Here's that video of the match. The lad makes the rest of our boys look bad which is no small feat.
Especially since, finishing aside, the youth make our first team's play look really bad.
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Amazing skills from Suso. First time watching him play. I gotta say he's a little like Messi, ball is stuck to his feet. Great control of the ball, has good vision. He'll make a good winger or AM. Eagerly awaiting for his debut. This are the type of players we need in Liverpool.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 18 2011, 10:44 AM)
news bout our young reds...

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TonyBarretTimes: Suso & Conor Coady promoted to Melwood today by Dalglish. Well deserved. Youth really getting a chance now.
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proof that Suso is a massively talented player...they even created his thread at m.u forum!!

http://www.redcafe.net/f7/fernandez-suso-318258/

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Yup, that Fernando Suso is talented alright. I have watched a couple vids of him. Maybe need to bulk up a bit if he's going to play in BPL. You know, to fend off those physical challenges.
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Suso' skills makes me remember our former player, Luis Garcia...
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i hope suso can be on the bench during our away game with wolve this saturday.. thank you king kenny!!
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QUOTE(fzul07 @ Jan 18 2011, 01:19 PM)
i hope suso can be on the bench during our away game with wolve this saturday.. thank you king kenny!!
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Hopefully, not only will he be on the bench but be a super sub and eventually play regular first team football. I agree he needs to buff up a bit cause it ain't like in the reserves team football no more. It's going to be physical and harsh on him since he's small in size but I believe he's got what it takes to be on the first team. Feeling nostalgic, seeing a young player from Liverpool playing so well, almost like when Owen and Gerrard made it to Melwood.
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Jan 17 2011, 09:39 PM)
Arrived like a big solid defender that we called man, leaves as a sissy that cant even head well.  tongue.gif

Anyway, on another note, seems like KD is very very daring indeed. Publicly talks about Konchesky and Poulsen  tongue.gif

Kenny Dalglish: I've got to rebuild shattered duo Paul Konchesky and Christian Poulsen to make my squad stronger

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz1BIORd4x5
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& KD is right, they have not been an apple to us, they like any current players need to dig in. (even joe cole). their careers could just end at the end if they collectively didnt care (esp poulsen who most fans thinks he isnt pulling his socks)
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 18 2011, 02:00 PM)
Hopefully, not only will he be on the bench but be a super sub and eventually play regular first team football. I agree he needs to buff up a bit cause it ain't like in the reserves team football no more. It's going to be physical and harsh on him since he's small in size but I believe he's got what it takes to be on the first team. Feeling nostalgic, seeing a young player from Liverpool playing so well, almost like when Owen and Gerrard made it to Melwood.
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read some funny story bout suso at rawk while training with the 1st team..he'll say sorry everytime he dribbled past senior player laugh.gif laugh.gif
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i dont think he will feature at all this season.
he's not registered to first-team.

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QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 18 2011, 02:16 PM)
read some funny story bout suso at rawk while training with the 1st team..he'll say sorry everytime he dribbled past senior player laugh.gif laugh.gif
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lol...senior player pawn by suso....
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Jan 18 2011, 02:55 PM)
i  dont think he will feature at all this season.
he's not registered to first-team.
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I think he can play..
check out tis new squad rules

- Clubs register a squad of up to 25 players, which must include at least eight 'home-grown' players, at the end of each transfer window.
- Home-grown players do not have to be English; home-grown players are defined as those who "irrespective of nationality or age, have been affiliated to the FA or Welsh FA for a period of three seasons or 36 months prior to 21st birthday"
- Clubs can supplement squad with unlimited number of players under the age of 21.
- Changes can be made only during transfer windows, although in exceptional circumstances (eg goalkeeping injury crisis) moves could be allowed.
- Players loaned to Football League clubs cannot be replaced, but can regain their spot on return to parent club.
- Rules apply only to Premier League matches, not European, FA Cup or League Cup action.
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Jan 18 2011, 02:55 PM)
i  dont think he will feature at all this season.
he's not registered to first-team.
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under King Kenny..even spearing getting a start! notworthy.gif
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%93...ool_F.C._season

look at the squad list. he doesnt even have a first team number. which is needed for a place in first team.
dont get me wrong, i'd love to see him playing for first team, but first i think he might need to hit the gym. EPL players always need good physical.
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Suarez lines up Anfield move after telling Ajax he wants to join Reds
By Rory Smith
Tuesday January 18 2011

Liverpool target Luis Suarez is believed to have made it clear to Ajax that he would be prepared to leave the Dutch club for Anfield should a suitable offer arrive in the remaining two weeks of the January transfer window.

The Eredivisie side's new boss, Frank de Boer, has stripped the Uruguayan international of the club captaincy after a number of controversial incidents and is thought to be resigned to losing the striker in the coming weeks.

Liverpool have emerged as favourites to secure Suarez's services after Tottenham chose not to further their interest in the 23-year-old, who will only contemplate a move to England should he be able to join a club with a core of Spanish-speaking players.

Though Ajax are prepared to listen to offers substantially below the £35m valuation they placed on the striker after an impressive World Cup, the Dutch club will not countenance selling the player for less than £18m.

Whether Liverpool match that fee will depend on whether the club's owners, Fenway Sports Group, believe Suarez's age, potential and marketing power make him a worthwhile investment.

Manager Kenny Dalglish and director of football strategy Damien Comolli will doubtless attempt to convince the group's principal backers -- John W Henry and Tom Werner -- of that in the coming days.

Dalglish and Comolli have also scouted Wigan winger Charles N'Zogbia intensively in recent weeks, and the Frenchman may prove a cheaper alternative to another long-term target, Aston Villa's Ashley Young.

The England international would cost around £15m should Villa choose to release him, roughly twice what N'Zogbia may cost.

Another Villa player, left-back Stephen Warnock, is also being monitored. Dalglish may look to bring the 29-year-old back to the club he left in 2007 on an initial loan until the end of the season.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/sua...ds-2499958.html

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yeah, looks like suarez rumors shaping up to be true
will he play straight away, i mean he's suspended for 7 games right?
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I'd take N'Zogbia over Young any day if given the choice..Young has stagnated at Villa hasnt he? was a world-beater once, probably the managerial change had a detrimental effect on him?


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QUOTE(anip94 @ Jan 18 2011, 04:00 PM)
yeah, looks like suarez rumors shaping up to be true
will he play straight away, i mean he's suspended for 7 games right?
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I think that would only be in effect if he plays in the Dutch league

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QUOTE(anip94 @ Jan 18 2011, 03:54 PM)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010%E2%80%93...ool_F.C._season

look at the squad list. he doesnt even have a first team number. which is needed for a place in first team.
dont get me wrong, i'd love to see him playing for first team, but first i think he might need to hit the gym. EPL players always need good physical.
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having a gud physique is an advantage but not a must..fabregas is not that big..same as nasri..most important thing is game intelligence..if u have that,size was juz a small matter nod.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 18 2011, 03:46 PM)
wanna bet??? brows.gif
under King Kenny..even spearing getting a start! notworthy.gif
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And play the whole 90 mins.

When KD made substituition time, everyone taught it would be him to be substituted, who know it was Miereles.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 18 2011, 01:16 PM)
Amazing skills from Suso. First time watching him play. I gotta say he's a little like Messi, ball is stuck to his feet. Great control of the ball, has good vision. He'll make a good winger or AM. Eagerly awaiting for his debut. This are the type of players we need in Liverpool.
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his distribution and vision look good. also his passing look neat. promoting him to the 1st team would be a good idea. just like when Arsene Wenger promoted Fabregas into the fisrt team which proven to be a good decision.

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jan 18 2011, 01:18 PM)
Yup, that Fernando Suso is talented alright. I have watched a couple vids of him. Maybe need to bulk up a bit if he's going to play in BPL. You know, to fend off those physical challenges.
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Suso might need to adjust with the harsh treatment from the EPL defenders.
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QUOTE(triple02 @ Jan 18 2011, 04:01 PM)
I'd take N'Zogbia over Young any day if given the choice..Young has stagnated at Villa hasnt he? was a world-beater once, probably the managerial change had a detrimental effect on him?


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I think that would only be in effect if he plays in the Dutch league
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The only reason to go for N'Zogbia is the fee. tongue.gif

QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 18 2011, 04:03 PM)
having a gud physique is an advantage but not a must..fabregas is not that big..same as nasri..most important thing is game intelligence..if u have that,size was juz a small matter nod.gif
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I wouldn't thinks so, the 1st thing RB did was telling Torres to beef up physically to handle the rough & tumble of BPL.
Even Alonso improves physically compare to when he first arrived.
The worry is, with such slight frame, he'll be shoved of easily by the defenders, prone to injury or even loss of confidence.

QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 18 2011, 04:04 PM)
And play the whole 90 mins.

When KD made substituition time, everyone taught it would be him to be substituted, who know it was Miereles.
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Actually think Spearing should be the one taken out as we're chasing the game & from what I saw, he offered next to nothing in the final third.
I'm not slighting him but don't he be better equipped as water carrier role aka Deschamps role? As I noticed he played much higher than Lucas & Meireles. Maybe KD wish him to close down opponents deep in their own half but really, he's limited attacking wise.
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QUOTE(anip94 @ Jan 18 2011, 03:54 PM)
look at the squad list. he doesnt even have a first team number. which is needed for a place in first team.
dont get me wrong, i'd love to see him playing for first team, but first i think he might need to hit the gym. EPL players always need good physical.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jan 18 2011, 04:17 PM)
The only reason to go for N'Zogbia is the fee.  tongue.gif 
I wouldn't thinks so, the 1st thing RB did was telling Torres to beef up physically to handle the rough & tumble of BPL.
Even Alonso improves physically compare to when he first arrived.
The worry is, with such slight frame, he'll be shoved of easily by the defenders, prone to injury or even loss of confidence.
Actually think Spearing should be the one taken out as we're chasing the game & from what I saw, he offered next to nothing in the final third.
I'm not slighting him but don't he be better equipped as water carrier role aka Deschamps role? As I noticed he played much higher than Lucas & Meireles. Maybe KD wish him to close down opponents deep in their own half but really, he's limited attacking wise.
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what RB tell torres was true..the physique will make a huge advantage if u are a striker!.. ..suso is more of a fabregas+iniesta mould..not a finisher but more of a creator nod.gif




if u saw the video compilation of him..he's not that easy to shove off the ball from bigger,taller opponents..u can see how gud he creates space for himself..think thats the quality that makes fabregas & other small frame player successful in EPL nod.gif
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suarez wants join LIV mainly bcoz he wants to play alongside torres ..
there's also rumours KD linked with downing, maybe bcoz we dont have any natural left winger, maxi is not up to standard ...
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why is our LUCK so bad lately?

simple, we dun hav a number 7

our last wearer of number 7 is Kewell or Smicier, if i am not mistaken

so if we buy Suarez, let him wear number 7 and we will drift back to number 7 by March

fyi, KD is also a number 7 wearer too

7 is a mystical lucky number
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QUOTE(mkaz @ Jan 18 2011, 05:15 PM)
suarez wants join LIV mainly bcoz he wants to play alongside torres ..
there's also rumours KD linked with downing, maybe bcoz we dont have any natural left winger, maxi is not up to standard ...
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Maxi is ok actually, he moves from left wing to the 'hole' position to assist in attacks and he's always in the penalty box to try score goals. If we were to replace, I'd say Dirk Kyut. He has the stamina of a horse but even with that, his performance has been lacking. The only reason Liverpool put Kyut at RW is to help defend the RB position. We need some new faces and new attacking options. Joe Cole has been a MAJOR let down this season. I was all hype-d up about him and thought he'd be raining crosses and passing for Torres but dammit we really need someone at RW!


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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 18 2011, 05:26 PM)
Maxi is ok actually, he moves from left wing to the 'hole' position to assist in attacks and he's always in the penalty box to try score goals. If we were to replace, I'd say Dirk Kyut. He has the stamina of a horse but even with that, his performance has been lacking. The only reason Liverpool put Kyut at RW is to help defend the RB position. We need some new faces and new attacking options. Joe Cole has been a MAJOR let down this season. I was all hype-d up about him and thought he'd be raining crosses and passing for Torres but dammit we really need someone at RW!
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 18 2011, 05:19 PM)
why is our LUCK so bad lately?

simple, we dun hav a number 7

our last wearer of number 7 is Kewell or Smicier, if i am not mistaken

so if we buy Suarez, let him wear number 7 and we will drift back to number 7 by March

fyi, KD is also a number 7 wearer too

7 is a mystical lucky number
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The last 7 was Robbie Keane...dun be too harsh on him, can we? sad.gif
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Luiz Suarez bites.


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suso plays a bit similar to iniesta than messi, having said that, he looks more like pacheco...anyway, what happen to pacheco, never heard anything from him ..
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was at royal oak for the viewing of the match, but was kinda disappointed with the crowd. thought there will be more reds around. anyways apart from that, the match against everton, to be honest, very disappointed with how the 2nd half went for us, i thought we got a little complacent and went for safety instead of killing the game off.. many of u say there are progress but in my eyes, its only because we were at home.. still lacking a slight cutting edge upfront when it comes to the final ball. welcoming news about suarez and downing tho if i had to choose, i'd rather have downing first and then suarez in the summer.
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i rather have Nzogbia than Downing rolleyes.gif


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suso plays a bit similar to iniesta than messi, having said that, he looks more like pacheco...anyway, what happen to pacheco, never heard anything from him ..
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 18 2011, 05:26 PM)
Maxi is ok actually, he moves from left wing to the 'hole' position to assist in attacks and he's always in the penalty box to try score goals. If we were to replace, I'd say Dirk Kyut. He has the stamina of a horse but even with that, his performance has been lacking. The only reason Liverpool put Kyut at RW is to help defend the RB position. We need some new faces and new attacking options. Joe Cole has been a MAJOR let down this season. I was all hype-d up about him and thought he'd be raining crosses and passing for Torres but dammit we really need someone at RW!
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I disagree.

Kyut has plenty to offer. From defending to attack, he contributed a lot in most match, although occassionally dip in form, passing went missing etc in certain match.

Against Everton, it is his attempt on goal, both, which lead to the 1st goal.
As well as provide a thru pass to Miereles that 1 v 1 with GK.

If there is loose ball from opponent GK, I can bet Kyut is the one going forward try to take advantage of the loose ball.
And in the past several occassion lead to goal as well.

Yes, Kyut is not a fancy, dribbler type of player, but he has his share of contribution to the team.

Most team nowadays no longer play winger type of system.
Chelsea under JM, only play diamond, not a 4-4-2, no midfield winger system.
So does Arsenal, playing well, without a real winger.

Winger type of player is a rare breed nowadays.
Also, with no good header of ball in the attack, winger system may not suitable as well. As traditionally winger playing cross in, with aerial attack is one of weakest link of Liv, crosses may just wasted like that.
Liv seldom score thru a corner kick stat speak all, and a lot of time, opponent defender has easy clear out only, without much challenge.



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http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankak..._aa1c91d6c.html

http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankak..._abf4ead08.html

iniesta?messi?pacheco?ozil?

exciting time ahead
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The Bundesliga Club have now been given permission to discuss personal terms with the player, who has travelled to Germany.

maybe the money spent will use to buy suarez ??
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babel out.. is it good?
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Suso = The Next Steven Gerrard!!!
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Babel out, Suarez in!
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Darn keep goin into liverpool's website just to check that bloody news of suarez transfer confirmed

when is it goin to exist sad.gif
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QUOTE(redkord @ Jan 19 2011, 12:51 AM)
babel out.. is it good?
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is it good if we can find his replacement....

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the lad never really did find his feet at Liverpool huh? A waste if you ask me, cause he had the talent and the physical attributes.
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babai babel...you're a legend when u had howard webb on ur twitter the other day..YNWA!! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif


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Darn keep goin into liverpool's website just to check that bloody news of suarez transfer confirmed

when is it goin to exist sad.gif
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apparently ajax wants 22m for suarez..whereas we only bid for 17m...all we have to do now is wait...plus we have other options in hazard,lukaku & young..no need to act desperately rolleyes.gif

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the lad never really did find his feet at Liverpool huh? A waste if you ask me, cause he had the talent and the physical attributes.
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i dont know why but whenever i see him play, his feet feels like sotong sweat.gif
bad education by rafa perhaps the reason why he is not what we all expect of him

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 09:27 AM)
the lad never really did find his feet at Liverpool huh? A waste if you ask me, cause he had the talent and the physical attributes.
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suarez wants join LIV mainly bcoz he wants to play alongside torres ..
there's also rumours KD linked with downing, maybe bcoz we dont have any natural left winger, maxi is not up to standard ...
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He will be missed but it would be the best thing to do letting him go because we are wasting his talents and hopefully he'll be able to prove himself a world class player.
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Honestly, I cannot seem to accept the fact that we are selling Babel and at the same time are keeping folks like that Jovanovic, Poulsen, Cole and even to a certain extent Maxi and Kuyt on the payroll...

I suppose those lot are old timers waaaay pass their sell by date whereas Babel is young enough to warrant a gamble sad.gif

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
Honestly, I cannot seem to accept the fact that we are selling Babel and at the same time are keeping folks like that Jovanovic, Poulsen, Cole and even to a certain extent Maxi and Kuyt on the payroll...

I suppose those lot are old timers waaaay pass their sell by date whereas Babel is young enough to warrant a gamble sad.gif

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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You want to sell, also need buyer or bidder for them.

This is not a football manager, simply press a sell button then the player is sold.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
Honestly, I cannot seem to accept the fact that we are selling Babel and at the same time are keeping folks like that Jovanovic, Poulsen, Cole and even to a certain extent Maxi and Kuyt on the payroll...

I suppose those lot are old timers waaaay pass their sell by date whereas Babel is young enough to warrant a gamble sad.gif

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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i'm sure you are aware that of all those players you mention, babel is most delicious to any suitor out there
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@cherroy football manager also need to have bidder only can sell lor. Damnit we sure have a lot of players that nobody wants sad.gif

However, with players like Joe Cole and Jovanovich (free signings on massive wages iinm) we could probably 'earn' more than selling Babel just by giving them away to any takers who are willing to offer them a replacement contract.

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:28 AM)
@cherroy football manager also need to have bidder only can sell lor. Damnit we sure have a lot of players that nobody wants sad.gif

However, with players like Joe Cole and Jovanovich (free signings on massive wages iinm) we could probably 'earn' more than selling Babel just by giving them away to any takers who are willing to offer them a replacement contract.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
Honestly, I cannot seem to accept the fact that we are selling Babel and at the same time are keeping folks like that Jovanovic, Poulsen, Cole and even to a certain extent Maxi and Kuyt on the payroll...

I suppose those lot are old timers waaaay pass their sell by date whereas Babel is young enough to warrant a gamble sad.gif

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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3 managers and none of em fancied the Dutch, so perhaps another failed purchase by RB, lol
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Cheapo??

Mascherano went to Barcelona. Alonso and Arbeloa to Real Madrid. Torres, Reina and Gerrard will probably be welcomed into any Champions League team.

Stop self abasing our team. Our real problem is that we have to a lot more players who are destined to make a downwards move as opposed to an upward one.


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3 managers and none of em fancied the Dutch, so perhaps another failed purchase by RB, lol
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 19 2011, 10:25 AM)
i'm sure you are aware that of all those players you mention, babel is most delicious to any suitor out there
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Most delicious @ 7mil Euro? Thats like half the price we bought him. Might as well keep him, since the fees not going to help much in pursuing other attackers.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:28 AM)
@cherroy football manager also need to have bidder only can sell lor. Damnit we sure have a lot of players that nobody wants sad.gif

However, with players like Joe Cole and Jovanovich (free signings on massive wages iinm) we could probably 'earn' more than selling Babel just by giving them away to any takers who are willing to offer them a replacement contract.
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I don't play football manager, so I don't know. tongue.gif

Wages and age are always a stumbling block for bidders.

What is the contract tenure for both of them?


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Most delicious @ 7mil Euro? Thats like half the price we bought him. Might as well keep him, since the fees not going to help much in pursuing other attackers.
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Most delicious @ 7mil Euro? Thats like half the price we bought him. Might as well keep him, since the fees not going to help much in pursuing other attackers.
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most delicious in terms of age/talent. nod.gif
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I don't know whether Suarez is suitable for Liverpool, but hope he can adapt the EPL playing style and control his temper if he really move to Reds.
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I don't know whether Suarez is suitable for Liverpool, but hope he can adapt the EPL playing style and control his temper if he really move to Reds.
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Not gonna have high hopes for this guy. We've had many signings this season and many has unproven themselves worthy 'enough' to help our team's crisis. Just something of a caution cause it was almost similar when Joe Cole signed for us and in the end didn't deliver nuts. I hope I'm wrong about doubting Suarez if he does come to Liverpool.
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We need new players to create different pattern of play in the field. The combination right now is just not working.

New management, new coach but still our team cant perform well. New players will help to give a different energy in our team although it may contribute little part only. So after getting new players, then KG can sort new play strategy on the field.
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dont play joe cole as a winger, play him alongside gerrard, just behind torres
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I cannot say I'm surprised but I am saddened to see Babel leave. I've been vouching for him all this while and I've always felt that he deserved a run in the first team. He is big, strong, quick and good on the ball. If anything, its his awareness and reading of the game that needs improvement, and this comes with game time. Ah well, good luck to him in Germany.
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QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 19 2011, 11:08 AM)
Not gonna have high hopes for this guy. We've had many signings this season and many has unproven themselves worthy 'enough' to help our team's crisis. Just something of a caution cause it was almost similar when Joe Cole signed for us and in the end didn't deliver nuts. I hope I'm wrong about doubting Suarez if he does come to Liverpool.
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He caught my eyes during last year World Cup. He's a good finisher and able to shoot with both feet but he did have attitude problem which most of us here worry about.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 19 2011, 10:56 AM)
I don't play football manager, so I don't know.  tongue.gif

Wages and age are always a stumbling block for bidders.

What is the contract tenure for both of them?


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If want to raise money for transfer window, only a few player could fetch higher value, while those players is a big no no for selling.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 19 2011, 10:58 AM)
most delicious in terms of age/talent.  nod.gif
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I'm sure Babel potential & ability far outweight the 7 mil Euros. If selling ard 10mil GBP will be more accurate to his ability/talent.
If only someone in the backroom can harvest those talents.

QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 19 2011, 11:21 AM)
dont play joe cole as a winger, play him alongside gerrard, just behind torres
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Then the formation will be like christmas tree, too narrow & rigid. Christmas tree or diamond works best if there's a pivot at the base like Xavi, Alonso, Pirlo which we have nil.
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QUOTE(vreis @ Jan 19 2011, 11:29 AM)
I'm sure Babel potential & ability far outweight the 7 mil Euros. If selling ard 10mil GBP will be more accurate to his ability/talent.
If only someone in the backroom can harvest those talents.
Then the formation will be like christmas tree, too narrow & rigid. Christmas tree or diamond works best if there's a pivot at the base like Xavi, Alonso, Pirlo which we have nil.
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4321 formation

just throw in a winger or 2 me thinks
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Although im a bit disappointed with the results, but im happy that KD give Kelly and Spearing a role in this game. Rome isnt built in one day, so does we. Did the owner said it will take KD after end of the season?

Suarez

I dont mind if he come to Liverpool and score goals. Jose also a bit arrogant isnt it? But he delivered results.

Babel&Suso

I believe also Babel should give a chance to shine. Maybe in training ground he cant pass our defender?

Suso has a potential to be next Fab/Messi?Inesita? i hope so

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:21 AM)

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jan 19 2011, 01:13 PM)
and which manager in their right mind would buy konchesky? tongue.gif
roy hodgson at his new club? tongue.gif
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really gutted to see babel go. would've preferred to see him go on loan as he does require first team football. if he goes to the german/dutch league, he will be a big hit. i think the suarez deal is on, thats why babel has opted to go, due to even more limited game time. as for the downing and young rumours, no chance villa will be selling them unless we offer silly money. the only deals i see happening are suarez and warnock (whom rafa should never have sold) and perhaps another centreback. anyways good luck to Ryan Babel, he deserves to be playing week in week out. hope to see him return to anfield one day YNWA
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roy hodgson at his new club?  tongue.gif
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Added on January 19, 2011, 1:43 pmfrom a poster at RAWK today early morning..oddball2514

F me boys. You can sign a playing contract with your terms and clauses, and if the fee arent agreed between the teams, then it doesnt apply! F me. As Ive said, I have 2 ITK's...if either of them tell me something that is wrong, I wont post thier stuff again.

To clarfiy

ITK 1 - Deal will be done by the end of the week
ITK2 - Playing contract signed fee to be agreed with Ajax.

Dont like it, dont f-ing read it!

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Hmm...just curious...with all this talk about ppl leaving and coming etc...who do u guys think should be our starting 11? What formation would you play and why? In my opinion we should play a 4-3-1-2. Currently we don't have any reliable wingers so I'd prefer penetration through the middle. GK - no contest...definitely Reina. Back 4 - tricky; I'd say LB Aurelio, CBs Agger and Carragher/Skrtel, RB Kelly/Johnson. Now in a good formation, I'd say we need a player who breaks up play like Makelele/ Essien and Masch...currently at Liv...maybe only Gerrard can do this? So until we can find a dedicated DM, my 3 CMs would be Gerrard, Miereles and Lucas (?). Joe Cole should play in front of the CMs and strikers probably Kuyt/Torres...with Kuyt doing the hard work and Torres being the finisher...what do u guys think? This also leaves our flanks open for good runs by Kelly/Aurelio...both of whom we know can be wingbacks.
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Liverpool have already made offer for Anderlecht whiz Lukaku

Liverpool have already made a bid for Anderlecht starlet Romelu Lukaku.

Anderlecht's president has already declared he expects the teen to move to England.

Liverpool originally presented an offer that would reach €23 million including add-on payments for appearances at club and international level, according to reports. It is now understood that the Belgian champions want a fee in the region of £25 million.

An attacking foil for Fernando Torres is thought to be the priority for the Merseysiders, and Liverpool have money to spend following the arrival of NESV as the new owners at the end of the summer.

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reina
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maxi/kuyt/johnson-gerrard-suarez
torres

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I've never seen us play 4-3-3 before. 4-3-3 formation you can switch to 4-5-1 at anytime needed.
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is jamie o'hara any good ??
spurs bought pienaar and i think he will be loan out ..
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http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/tim...-torres-1387551

'Self Confessed' Torres fan writer saying Torres has lost enthusiasm for football. Hell, does she even KNOW Torres???
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Jan 19 2011, 10:21 AM)
Honestly, I cannot seem to accept the fact that we are selling Babel and at the same time are keeping folks like that Jovanovic, Poulsen, Cole and even to a certain extent Maxi and Kuyt on the payroll...

I suppose those lot are old timers waaaay pass their sell by date whereas Babel is young enough to warrant a gamble sad.gif

I think Konchesky and Kyriakos should also be sold, but then again we are pretty thin at the back... sigh.
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might as well keep them and sell them during summer transfer window.

QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 19 2011, 11:21 AM)
dont play joe cole as a winger, play him alongside gerrard, just behind torres
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QUOTE(leftist @ Jan 19 2011, 01:47 PM)
Liverpool have already made offer for Anderlecht whiz Lukaku

Liverpool have already made a bid for Anderlecht starlet Romelu Lukaku.

Anderlecht's president has already declared he expects the teen to move to England.

Liverpool originally presented an offer that would reach €23 million including add-on payments for appearances at club and international level, according to reports. It is now understood that the Belgian champions want a fee in the region of £25 million.

An attacking foil for Fernando Torres is thought to be the priority for the Merseysiders, and Liverpool have money to spend following the arrival of NESV as the new owners at the end of the summer.

tribalfutbol
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RT @kop_that: Anderlecht president Herman van Holsbeeck has confirmed that Liverpool have enquired about their striker Romelu Lukaku. #LFC
happy if its true..suddenly we are a rich club arent we??? laugh.gif
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the new Drogba?

QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 19 2011, 02:11 PM)
I've never seen us play 4-3-3 before. 4-3-3 formation you can switch to 4-5-1 at anytime needed.
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i guess the managers don't prefer that kind of formation.

QUOTE(chenwfng @ Jan 19 2011, 02:34 PM)
http://www.tribalfootball.com/articles/tim...-torres-1387551

'Self Confessed' Torres fan writer saying Torres has lost enthusiasm for football. Hell, does she even KNOW Torres???
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maybe she judge that based on Torres recent performance and body languange?
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QUOTE(Petre @ Jan 19 2011, 11:02 AM)
i dont know why but whenever i see him play, his feet feels like sotong sweat.gif
bad education by rafa perhaps the reason why he is not what we all expect of him
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babel had some skills but not a (proper) footballers brain/awareness (unfortunately). He over overdoes sometimes & if any comparison to aquilani, he's only half of the former technical awareness.

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Suddenly Liverpool become very active in the transfer market, don't know whether this is a good sign or a bad sign. Really hope King Kenny can get those talented player and help Liverpool back to good form and fight for the Champions League place for next year.
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Has Babel signed the new contract with Hoffenheim? Thought it is just a bid accepted and Babel did said that he would rather get loaned out only.

Still hoping Aquilani will be back soon and does not get signed off permanently to Juventus - we should give him a chance before anyone jumps to a conclusion about him.
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Wolves boss Mick McCarthy looks set to win the race to sign Barnsley midfielder Adam Hammill.

The Mirror reports that Hammill could join Wolves in a bargain £500,000 deal today.

There has been late interest from the 22-year-old's old club Liverpool, but Hammill looks set to join Wolves.

New Liverpool boss Kenny Dalglish had scouts watch the midfielder in action for Barnsley last weekend.

Read more: http://www.ontheminute.com/news/news.php?n...4#ixzz1BT26DzTO
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QUOTE(ik3da @ Jan 19 2011, 03:30 PM)
Has Babel signed the new contract with Hoffenheim? Thought it is just a bid accepted and Babel did said that he would rather get loaned out only.

Still hoping Aquilani will be back soon and does not get signed off permanently to Juventus - we should give him a chance before anyone jumps to a conclusion about him.
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Aquilani probably wont be back, Juventus has the the option to sign him up provided if they stump up the money agreed in the pre-loan arrangement which I heard is 10M pounds, unless of course Aquilani wants to be back,

As for Babel, eventhough there's no word of him confirmed leaving, Its kinda sad to see him being ushered out of the club to be frank, not one of the best performers without being overly sentimental Im kinda attached to him. Never really got a fair whip of the crack like other players, such a prospect in the first season. Partly the blame should be shouldered by the club for not nurturing a talent like him, another player's career ruined potentially by the club.

Ill be waiting him closely in Hoffenheim, if any player deserves a break that is Babel.

Go and get your career back on track Babel! You'll Never Walk Alone!

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This week Liverpool will visit to Wolve, hope our lads can show something different and beat the home team.

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When and what time are they playing?
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When and what time are they playing?
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if any player deserves a break that is Babel.

Go and get your career back on track Babel! You'll Never Walk Alone!
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sat 12.45pm uk time...8.45pm m'sia time if not mistaken rolleyes.gif
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How about Lukaku, heard City almost close the deal, I hope Liverpool can get this talented youngster signature before other clubs close the deal.


Added on January 20, 2011, 12:11 amSeem like Liverpool linking with another talented youngster from Portugal Coentrao, and the most important is he is interested to come to Anfield, but have to wait for the right price Liverpool willing to pay.

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Liverpool FC : Is Defense The Greater Crisis That Liverpool Needs To Deal With?


Liverpool have been on a downward slide for two years now after the near-league victory two years back.

The fingers were pointed at the lack of creativity in the midfield following the departure of Alonso. In all fairness, Liverpool did have an exceptional season in 2008-09 when they scored 77 goals.

Last season Liverpool scored 61 goals which was blamed for Liverpool's dismal showing in the league. Lets look at the figures from the previous years and the number of goals scored by Liverpool and compare it with the league standing in that year:

2007-08 : 67 Goals (3rd)

2006-07 : 57 Goals (3rd)

2005-06 : 57 Goals (3rd)



So, 61 Goals in a season does not seem to be too bad comparing it with the three seasons prior to 2008-09 when each year the team managed to finish 3rd in the league. This year Liverpool have scored 27 in 22, owing mainly to the loss in form of Torres and the defensive tactics used by Roy for a major part of the season.

So, where did it all go wrong. Lets compare the corresponding figures for goals conceded and clean sheets. (GC = Goals Conceded , CS = Clean Sheets)

2009-10 : 35 GC - 17 CS

2008-09 : 27 GC - 20 CS

2007-08 : 28 GC - 18 CS

2006-07 : 27 GC - 20 CS

2005-06 : 25 GC - 22 CS



One can clearly see the difference in the goals conceded in the last season, which was somewhat greater than the previous seasons. This year, the defense seems to be in absolute turmoil with the team already conceding 31 goals in 22 games, which is more than the season totals in the previous five season barring the last one. Pepe also has managed only 6 clean sheets to date in 22 games and seems to be headed nowhere near the 15+ clean sheets he has always been able to manage since moving to Anfield.

Agreed, that goal-scoring has been a problem this year, but the bigger concern, going by the statistics seems to be the defense.

So, what changed in the last two years in the defense? Sami Hyypia was released from his contract, and Liverpool lost a great deal of experience as a result. Agreed that younger players were required in defense, but Liverpool could have done more to have that bit of extra experience in the dressing room, especially in the unforeseeable absence of Carragher due to injury this season.

Furthermore, Glen Johnson was bought from Portsmouth for a mammoth 17 million. He may be a England international, but he always has been better going forward than as a defender. His shortcomings in the defensive department has been exposed more than once in the last two years.

Daniel Agger, who is still highly rated as a center-back, has spent more time dealing with injuries than the opposition forwards and hence has not been able to make the impact that the team expected him to make.

Jamie Carragher, in spite of his age has been a leader in the defensive unit and was crucial in marshaling the defense. His injury this season has left the Martin Skrtel as the leader of the defense at center-back. Skrtel seems to be too ill-equipped as a defender against top forwards and the number of glaring mistakes he has made this season are unpardonable.

Kyrgiakos, to be fair to him was only a backup center-back and was called upon this season only due to the injuries to Agger and Carragher. He is good in the air but lacks the technique against top quality attacking units.

Liverpool had somehow managed with Aurelio and Insua at LB over the last two years following the departure of Riise but this year with Konchesky coming in and Aurelio still battling his injuries, the problem has been exploited by most teams.

Martin Kelly seems to be the only bright spot in an otherwise dismal picture for the Liverpool defensive unit. The form he has shown in the matches that he has played, has endeared this young lad to the Liverpool faithfuls already.

The glaring difference this year seems to be the departure of Javier Mascherano. He was the wall that often stood between the opposition midfield and the Liverpool defense. He was never shy of making those hard tackles and taking cautions from the referee for the team. Lucas, has tried to fill those boots for the team this season and has managed to put up some decent performances, but has been far too inconsistent to provide the kind of impact that Mascherano was able to make.


Liverpool have bought a young CB in Wilson from the Rangers but seems to be some years away from being a starter at Anfield.

So, Liverpool seems so in need of urgent enforcements in the defense if they want to get back on track . They need at-least two players, namely a LB and a CB to reinforce the squad. There have also been talks to bring in Van Bommel to fill up the void in the Defensive Midfielder department.

All the transfer talk or gossip has been focussed far too much on the attacking reinforcements. Hope that the owners and Kenny don't neglect the crisis in the defensive department as well, which seems to be a bigger problem and in more urgent need of new signings.

The position that the new owners and King Kenny find themselves in is not an enviable one. But all the Liverpool fans hope that they are well-equipped to help the great club to weather the storm and make the right decisions for the club.

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i dunno where i read it from but once u got urself a reliable defence, then only ur attacking players will be able to attack without worrying much on helping the team to defence.

take a look at the way steve bruce's sunderland + mark hughes's blackburn back then. both will priortise on strengthening their defense, and then move on to the midfield and strikers.

for u guys, get rid of the dead wood, slowly build a team post carra and gerard. both of 'em ain't young anymore.

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arbeloa and aurelio, risse..was once a good liverpool team but now everything changed because epl becomes more and more competitive.

we need cruel players ie vidic , evra...ivanovic, those players tackle ppl without showing up they are innocent fouling. those who tackle dam hard and the other team sked of him.

skrytel has been ***** for me, agger too handsome...i think we need cruel players...seriously cruel.
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Jan 20 2011, 06:57 AM)
arbeloa and aurelio, risse..was once a good liverpool team but now everything changed because epl becomes more and more competitive.

we need cruel players ie vidic , evra...ivanovic, those players tackle ppl without showing up they are innocent fouling. those who tackle dam hard and the other team sked of him.

skrytel has been ***** for me, agger too handsome...i think we need cruel players...seriously cruel.
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jan 20 2011, 06:16 AM)
i dunno where i read it from but once u got urself a reliable defence, then only ur attacking players will be able to attack without worrying much on helping the team to defence.

take a look at the way steve bruce's sunderland + mark hughes's  blackburn back then. both will priortise on strengthening their defense, and then move on to the midfield and strikers.

for u guys, get rid of the dead wood, slowly build a team post carra and gerard. both of 'em ain't young anymore.

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seems like suarez is getting closer to sign for Liverpool.

the question is whether he can adapt to EPL style.

just watch youtube how he made a goal under Ajax but obviously it's a different class of football.

EPL is more physical compare to Bundesliga defenses.

Hopefully anything will be good for us if we can get him to Liverpool squad.

Cant wait to see Torres and Suarez partnership.

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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Jan 20 2011, 06:57 AM)
arbeloa and aurelio, risse..was once a good liverpool team but now everything changed because epl becomes more and more competitive.

we need cruel players ie vidic , evra...ivanovic, those players tackle ppl without showing up they are innocent fouling. those who tackle dam hard and the other team sked of him.

skrytel has been ***** for me, agger too handsome...i think we need cruel players...seriously cruel.
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what we need is to defend as a unit. to harass the opponent and to get the ball back ASAP once we lose possesion. i love the way we defend as a unit under rafa. we rarely concede (not his last season anyway)

i thought skrtel is supposed to be our Teenage Mutant Ninja Skrtel? he just need to get his confidence and form back. furthermore, i remember he once dribbled to the edge of opponent's penalty box. i think he can play the ball. with proper instructions and guidance, together with agger, we can have 2 CBs who are comfortable with the ball

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see wat happened to Chelsea's Defence once Carvalho was sold?

we need a big size, dark skinned defensive player like Bramble

any suggestion?
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liverpool is going for suarez and not Honda?

good luck then.just hoping his ego didn't went overboard and makes everyone(especially Torres) to have bad blood on him.

Affelay is still the best performer in eredivisie compared to him.sadly he joined the dark side of football doh.gif


Added on January 20, 2011, 9:39 amoh and he joined them on the cheap too.

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Bramble? Really?

Well, there are reports that Konchesky is leaving on loan back to Fulham and also many tweets and reports on Susrez's deal being nearly done.

I do not like the player but this will indeed show all the right signs of intent that Liverpool is back and means business. As for Konchesky leaving... our defence is short handed enough as it is, imho he is decent as a backup.

Joe Cole was given 45 minutes in a reserve game yesterday! Maybe the rest of the underperforming players should also suffer the same indignity!

Edit: typo - stupid auto corrected phone

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Bramble? Really?

Well, there are reports that Konchesky is leaving on loan back to Fulham and also many tweets and reports on Susrez's deal being nearly done.

I do not like the player but this will indeed show all the right signs of intent that Liverpool is back and means business. As for Konchesky leaving... our defines is short handed enough as it is, imho he is decent as a backup.

Joe Cole was given 45 minutes in a reserve game yesterday! Maybe the rest of the underperforming players should also suffer the same indignity!
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Added on January 20, 2011, 10:20 amReading several threads here, I see one commonality. Posters are always talking about which positions to bolster. Seriously, new players come secondary to me. To what you say? To developing a system of play. The latter is long term of course but every new manager should work hard on getting whatever players he has at his disposal to play his way. The reason Liverpool were so successful in the past over 4 managers i.e. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish, is because we played good football and regardless of which players came or left, our style never changed. It is also the reason Man Utd are doing so well despite fielding average players in various positions over the years. What I would like to focus on is what Dalglish is trying to do to address this issue. Its been said to death that we used to pass and move, and with Dalglish focusing on 5-a-sides, I'm hoping it will only be a matter of time when we see the team attacking in pockets of 3-5 players. We've already seen signs of this. When we have an established style, you don't need too many expensive big signings because each player makes the other stronger and better.

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Aye and the ressies beat your team as well, Man City  smile.gif


Added on January 20, 2011, 10:20 amReading several threads here, I see one commonality. Posters are always talking about which positions to bolster. Seriously, new players come secondary to me. To what you say? To developing a system of play. The latter is long term of course but every new manager should work hard on getting whatever players he has at his disposal to play his way. The reason Liverpool were so successful in the past over 4 managers i.e. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish, is because we played good football and regardless of which players came or left, our style never changed. It is also the reason Man Utd are doing so well despite fielding average players in various positions over the years. What I would like to focus on is what Dalglish is trying to do to address this issue. Its been said to death that we used to pass and move, and with Dalglish focusing on 5-a-sides, I'm hoping it will only be a matter of time when we see the team attacking in pockets of 3-5 players. We've already seen signs of this. When we have an established style, you don't need too many expensive big signings because each player makes the other stronger and better.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 20 2011, 10:32 AM)
our team was used to be a FEARED team under those Managers

hope those Aura will be back if KD is still the manager by next season

Feared team means we are already one Nil up b4 the match even begin thumbup.gif
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Don't know why, I'm not one bit excited about any new signings, I'm just looking forward to the next game, wanting us to win it for the king.

Like Duke mentioned earlier, pass and move, I see us going that direction from our recent football. Suarez or not, I refuse to believe that our squad is in fact that week. Lucas has pretty much taken over 50% of Mascherano's work and in fact added a little bit of spices himself. Meireles added some mobility as well as the "don't mess with me" look to boss the midfield, both players pretty much complement each other with their habit of passing short as well as move around to find spaces.

Personally, I do not like to talk about formations or tactics, I'm no expert there and I find it hard to discuss as I believe there are more to things than just formation. Rafa Benitez (Here we go again) once mentioned 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3, etc are all similar, it just depends on how much you wanna push the wingers, the defenders as well as how many strikers you wanna go with, if you intend to play with 4-3-3, from a 4-5-1, we just need to push our wide players up front, from a 4-4-2, which in our case, Gerrard to support the strikers and so on. So to judge a formation based on the players on the field is pretty shallow imo.

Suarez will definitely contribute some, but I do believe, with Kenny back at helm, it could be back to the old Liverpool style, keep everything private till done. So I'm not optimistic about this signing, plus 18 million quid, it's hard to imagine that the owners would spend that much on a temporary manager.
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QUOTE(lilredridinghood @ Jan 20 2011, 10:45 AM)
Don't know why, I'm not one bit excited about any new signings, I'm just looking forward to the next game, wanting us to win it for the king.

Like Duke mentioned earlier, pass and move, I see us going that direction from our recent football. Suarez or not, I refuse to believe that our squad is in fact that week. Lucas has pretty much taken over 50% of Mascherano's work and in fact added a little bit of spices himself. Meireles added some mobility as well as the "don't mess with me" look to boss the midfield, both players pretty much complement each other with their habit of passing short as well as move around to find spaces.

Personally, I do not like to talk about formations or tactics, I'm no expert there and I find it hard to discuss as I believe there are more to things than just formation. Rafa Benitez (Here we go again) once mentioned 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3, etc are all similar, it just depends on how much you wanna push the wingers, the defenders as well as how many strikers you wanna go with, if you intend to play with 4-3-3, from a 4-5-1, we just need to push our wide players up front, from a 4-4-2, which in our case, Gerrard to support the strikers and so on. So to judge a formation based on the players on the field is pretty shallow imo.

Suarez will definitely contribute some, but I do believe, with Kenny back at helm, it could be back to the old Liverpool style, keep everything private till done. So I'm not optimistic about this signing, plus 18 million quid, it's hard to imagine that the owners would spend that much on a temporary manager.
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Added on January 20, 2011, 10:20 amReading several threads here, I see one commonality. Posters are always talking about which positions to bolster. Seriously, new players come secondary to me. To what you say? To developing a system of play. The latter is long term of course but every new manager should work hard on getting whatever players he has at his disposal to play his way. The reason Liverpool were so successful in the past over 4 managers i.e. Shankly, Paisley, Fagan and Dalglish, is because we played good football and regardless of which players came or left, our style never changed. It is also the reason Man Utd are doing so well despite fielding average players in various positions over the years. What I would like to focus on is what Dalglish is trying to do to address this issue. Its been said to death that we used to pass and move, and with Dalglish focusing on 5-a-sides, I'm hoping it will only be a matter of time when we see the team attacking in pockets of 3-5 players. We've already seen signs of this. When we have an established style, you don't need too many expensive big signings because each player makes the other stronger and better.
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You can have 10x Torres on the field, but still lose the game.

The most important thing is know how to play football, fluid football, and water-tight defence.
AF and AW is the example, player come and go, while style of football, ability to play football rather remain intact.


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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 20 2011, 09:34 AM)
see wat happened to Chelsea's Defence once Carvalho was sold?

we need a big size, dark skinned defensive player like Bramble

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QUOTE(coolmast3r @ Jan 20 2011, 01:40 PM)
Wouldn't it mean that King Kenny will be at the helm for a long time?
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It's now or never. if the board don't act fast to help KD rebuild the squad during the current transfer window and remainder of the season, Liverpool will go nowhere except down. For long term or not, KD is a Liverpool manager and the board must provide with what KD needs that might be able to help Liverpool climb back to the top half of the table and safe from the relegation zone.

Once the players adopted to the playing system establish by KD, Liverpool will get the stability needed. As long Liverpool are still in EPL, KD and the players can live to fight for another day.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jan 20 2011, 03:15 PM)
I agree, team play is the most important, not players.
You can have 10x Torres on the field, but still lose the game.

The most important thing is know how to play football, fluid football, and water-tight defence.
AF and AW is the example, player come and go, while style of football, ability to play football rather remain intact.
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and Liverpool has lost it. I believe. Looking back at Liverpool game play while still having luis garcia, risse, kewell, xabi.
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Titus "I can't focus" Bramble? We seriously need to set out sights higher. I don't see why being "dark skinned" has anything to do with it but Bramble is nothing more than a capable backup. Once a promising youngster, he never fulfilled his potential because he couldn't keep his concentration and as a defender, you can never swich off..


Added on January 20, 2011, 7:31 pmKewell? Didn't do anything in a red shirt and pissed McMahon off whilst testing during the 2nd leg against Barcelona.

I was thinking further back. If you think we played riveting football under Benitez, try to d/l older games during the days of Dalglish or earlier.

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Even Evan's boys were entertaining. The McManaman lad could dribble as well as anybody, although his crosses and finishing often left much to be desired. Good thing we had Fowler up top back then eh?
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errr...im agree with 'team play' not the player. what about 'manager must bring out the best from the player?'
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those who disagree with me that we brought in too many flops previously is really an ignorant egoist.

don't forget how much we spend on Robbie Keane, Bellamy, Johnson, Pennant, Aquilani, Josemi, Krompkamp, Leto etc...

and we let go Peter Crouch and these players easily ie. Smicer, Hypia, Hamann, these players can still play actually. They can be like Scholes or Giggs in the team, where we lack off now.

We shouldn't release players or sell for profit just for that few millions, see why Brown, O' shea never complain of not getting enough matches? Because they know....and respect SAF.


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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Jan 20 2011, 11:50 PM)
those who disagree with me that we brought in too many flops previously is really an ignorant egoist.

don't forget how much we spend on Robbie Keane, Bellamy, Johnson, Pennant, Aquilani, Josemi, Krompkamp, Leto etc...

and we let go Peter Crouch and these players easily ie. Smicer, Hypia, Hamann, these players can still play actually. They can be like Scholes or Giggs in the team, where we lack off now.

We shouldn't release players or sell for profit just for that few millions, see why Brown, O' shea never complain of not getting enough matches? Because they know....and respect SAF.
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Liverpool director Damien Comolli has revealed the club ARE interested in Luis Suarez and Ashley Young, although there is no movement over their potential transfers to Anfield.

"We are looking primarily for an offensive player because the team is short on pace,'' he said. ''As for Suarez, At the moment there is no dialogue with Ajax but he is one of the players we are interested in. Will he be available in January? It's another issue.

"As for Young, if he is available then he will be of interest for us. But I do not think that this is the case."
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 20 2011, 05:37 PM)
Titus "I can't focus" Bramble? We seriously need to set out sights higher. I don't see why being "dark skinned" has anything to do with it but Bramble is nothing more than a capable backup. Once a promising youngster, he never fulfilled his potential because he couldn't keep his concentration and as a defender, you can never swich off..


Added on January 20, 2011, 7:31 pmKewell? Didn't do anything in a red shirt and pissed McMahon off whilst testing during the 2nd leg against Barcelona.

I was thinking further back. If you think we played riveting football under Benitez, try to d/l older games during the days of Dalglish or earlier.
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those who disagree with me that we brought in too many flops previously is really an ignorant egoist.

don't forget how much we spend on Robbie Keane, Bellamy, Johnson, Pennant, Aquilani, Josemi, Krompkamp, Leto etc...

and we let go Peter Crouch and these players easily ie. Smicer, Hypia, Hamann, these players can still play actually. They can be like Scholes or Giggs in the team, where we lack off now.

We shouldn't release players or sell for profit just for that few millions, see why Brown, O' shea never complain of not getting enough matches? Because they know....and respect SAF.
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Aquilani weren't given much chance to prove his worth given that he just recover from serious injury. about the others, yeah, a failure but Bellamy look ok to me during his time at anfield. Harry Kewell was the biggest dissapointment among them all i guess.

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Liverpool director Damien Comolli has revealed the club ARE interested in Luis Suarez and Ashley Young, although there is no movement over their potential transfers to Anfield.

"We are looking primarily for an offensive player because the team is short on pace,'' he said. ''As for Suarez, At the moment there is no dialogue with Ajax but he is one of the players we are interested in. Will he be available in January? It's another issue.

"As for Young, if he is available then he will be of interest for us. But I do not think that this is the case."
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Ashley Young eh? English players don't come cheap. He's good nonetheless; pacy, tricky, good delivery but this season he's not the ashley Young we knew last season.
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Jan 20 2011, 11:50 PM)
those who disagree with me that we brought in too many flops previously is really an ignorant egoist.

don't forget how much we spend on Robbie Keane, Bellamy, Johnson, Pennant, Aquilani, Josemi, Krompkamp, Leto etc...

and we let go Peter Crouch and these players easily ie. Smicer, Hypia, Hamann, these players can still play actually. They can be like Scholes or Giggs in the team, where we lack off now.

We shouldn't release players or sell for profit just for that few millions, see why Brown, O' shea never complain of not getting enough matches? Because they know....and respect SAF.
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kromkamp free..josemi was a cheap buy..bellamy was never a flop..we sold him for a profit...keane i agree..biggest flop under Rafa..crouch was making noises bout not getting a game..rafa have to sell unhappy player..and we got profit from it..johnson flop??...yea rite!!..but to compare with other clubs..our transfer record is not that bad...sheva for 30m & now where he's playing?..remember Veron for 28m??..crocked hargreaves for 17m??...every club has their bad buys..u will never see a club got their transfer 100% right! nod.gif
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QUOTE(kamkamparadise @ Jan 21 2011, 09:42 AM)
Still have many proven centre backs out there such as Kjaer (a Liverpool fan), Gary Cahill, Ryan Shawcross (unless u don't mind that he is once an MU player), and Matthew Upson who would open to a chance of joining Liverpool.
Actually, I would love to see how Martin Kelly will do there. From what I've seen this season, he's more physically adept than Martin Skrtel. Both are the same height but Kelly has been stronger in the air, and he's definitely the quicker of the two. Skrtel doesn't read the game particularly well either and with a little more exposure, Kelly could just turn out to be Carra's replacement. No need to look elsewhere unless we absolutely have to. Having said that, signing a centreback is crucial to address our immediate defensive woes what with Skrtel out of sorts, Carra looking like he's getting on and Kyrgiakos vulnerable against quicker forwards.

Sami Hyypia? Fantastic player but I've nothing against the club letting him go. He constantly found it a struggle to keep pace with the game in England and I do think it was time for him to find greener pastures. Looking forward to him returning in the capacity of a coach though.
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Actually, I would love to see how Martin Kelly will do there. From what I've seen this season, he's more physically adept than Martin Skrtel. Both are the same height but Kelly has been stronger in the air, and he's definitely the quicker of the two. Skrtel doesn't read the game particularly well either and with a little more exposure, Kelly could just turn out to be Carra's replacement. No need to look elsewhere unless we absolutely have to. Having said that, signing a centreback is crucial to address our immediate defensive woes what with Skrtel out of sorts, Carra looking like he's getting on and Kyrgiakos vulnerable against quicker forwards.

Sami Hyypia? Fantastic player but I've nothing against the club letting him go. He constantly found it a struggle to keep pace with the game in England and I do think it was time for him to find greener pastures. Looking forward to him returning in the capacity of a coach though.
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Leading 1-0 comfortably, suddenly 2 error defending causing 3 points gone.

Krygiakos is particularly useful for corner kick, as aerial ability/attacking sense is good, but defending wise sometimes very shaky and no confidence enough.

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On the issue of transfers, looks like we're weighing up a bid for James Milner. Seems like he's been around for ages but he's still only 25. Of all the players we've been linked with recently, I think Milner is the most exciting. He can play anywhere across the middle and he's quick enough to play wide.

On another note, Xabi says "hi".

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You'll never walk alone: Real Madrid ace Xabi Alonso declares his love for Liverpool supporters
By Ashley Gray

Xabi Alonso has paid a glowing tribute to Liverpool supporters and admits the time he spent at Anfield will always have a special place in his heart.

The Spain midfielder quit Merseyside for Real Madrid before the start of last season and has impressed as much in La Liga as he did in the Barclays Premier League.

But back in an environment where supporters are quick to wave white handkerchiefs of surrender in a show of dissent against the clubs they love, Alonso remembers a very different attitude from The Kop.

'To play for Liverpool is something very special,’ he told the Spanish editition of Vogue magazine.

‘There is a very intimate connection between the fans and players that doesn’t exist at other clubs.

‘Even in bad times, the stands do not whistle, instead they sing, “You’ll Never Walk Alone”.’

The 29-year-old’s wife Nagore has equally fond memories of her former home after making the life-changing decision to move when Alonso moved from Real Sociedad to Liverpool in 2004.

Nagore, who had their first child Jontxu on Merseyside in 2008 and has since added daughter Ane to the family, said: ‘It was the best move I made (coming to Liverpool).
‘The relationship went a step further. I had been working on a film production team (at the time), but I packed my bags and went.’

And while many WAGs worry that their partners will appear in lurid newspaper headlines, she has few fears about the man she married eight years ago.
‘I can’t complain,’ she said. ‘I am lucky - Xabi doesn’t go to parties. He spends all his free time with us. After a match or training, he comes straight home.’

Liverpool fans may wish he never left them and there is still a bond with his old club.

Alonso was a surprise visitor to Anfield when Liverpool beat Aston Villa 3-0 in December and, earlier this month, he sent new Reds boss Kenny Dalglish a good luck message via Twitter.
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we need strong wing back like Riise and Finnan do in the past times ...

rumours said Sergio Ramos want to leave Real Madrid, you are most welcome to Anfield Sergio !!! but Real Madrid are too greedy !!!
Keisuke Honda/Alvaro Negredo/Lassana Diarra = good prospect for Liverpool

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A couple of days ago, I mentioned that above all, I want to see King Kenny re-establishing the pass and move football we used to play back in the late 80's/early 90's. I expressed my opinion on how I thought signing big players came secondary to this. Since then I've come across this article.

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LIVERPOOL manager Kenny Dalglish is keen for the club to rediscover the style of their glory days — as it is the only way he knows how to play football.

Read more: http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/...l#ixzz1BdRj7UQ5


1 point in 3 games may appear to be a slow start for any manager but we all know that numbers only tell half the story. If I may, I'd like to quote an analogy I read somewhere regarding oil tankers. It has been said that if you were to turn to engines off on an oil tanker, it would drift another 4-5 miles before it came to a full stop and could be turned around. The article continued to express how we were like this oil tanker. Results or change would not come instantaneously and any fan with half the gift of thought can see that.

I've read that some people have begun to criticise King Kenny and I can only say that these bunch of people don't know football. They likely read the papers and note that we've lost 2 and drawn 1. Are they completely blind to the other signs??? Let me list a few, what I think to be obvious signs of improvement.

1) Morale has improved amongst players and fans. Players like Torres and Reina have reiterated their desire to see out their contracts. Almost everyone else has expressed their confidence in King Kenny who is revered and well respected.

2) Our football has improved. Even though we lost against the mancs, it took King Kenny only 59 minutes to make a positive double change, even when we were a man down. He threw caution to the wind, and best still, he had a plan B. Sure beats seeing your gaffer rub his face or stroke his chin when you go behind eh?

3) His interviews have been brilliant and he clearly knows what he wants and needs to do at the club.

Aren't these 3 points alone cause to be optimistic?

On a side note, does anyone follow Ryan Babel on twitter? You should. It's hilarous now that he's in "twitter jail".


Added on January 21, 2011, 11:28 amHere is an article I came across which echoes my thougths.

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By Ben Thornley
Jan 20 2011

LIVERPOOL’S playing and backroom staff may be under orders not to talk up Kenny Dalglish’s credentials for the full-time Anfield job, but they don’t have to.  Judging by their  response on the field, it’s clear how the players feel.

To the casual observer a single point from two Premier League games preceded by an FA Cup exit would appear to reaffirm what the cynics said about  Dalglish’s romantic return.

Points, however,  can’t  measure the impact Dalglish has had on Anfield since resuming where he left off in 1991.

For the first time in years there is an air of optimism and excitement about the future of the club, with supporters, players, management and owners sharing the same vision for the Reds.

The focal point of this transformation is Dalglish, who  has provided the  leadership, inspiration and passion missing from the disastrous six-month tenure  of Roy Hodgson, the last symbol of the destructive  Hicks and Gillett regime.

Crucially he has also given belief to players and  supporters.

While the  team may be a pale imitation of the one the Liverpool legend left behind 20 years ago – although far better than his predecessor would ever admit – off the field it’s as if he’s never been away.

To a man less conceited and stuck in his ways than Hodgson, how Dalglish has gone about his business would provide a lesson in what it means to be the manager of Liverpool FC.

Press conferences are now a source of pride rather than embarrassment. When Dalglish addresses the media you hear a man fighting for Liverpool rather than himself, with cutting one liners replacing forced verbosity,  inspiration in place of demotivation.

The 59-year-old has inherited a host of problems from the Londoner. A squad shorn of spirit, resolve  and confidence by the former Fulham boss’ archaic approach and littered with poor buys.

Yet, refreshingly, at no point  has Dalglish attempted to assign blame to Hodgson, as he would be entitled to do.

He recognises now is the time to look to the future to recreate past glories.

Rather than alienate flops Christian Poulsen and Paul Konchesky, the Scot has attempted to bring them in from the cold, albeit partly through necessity, fostering a spirit of togetherness.

He’s put his faith in youngsters Martin Kelly, Jay Spearing and Jon-Jo Shelvey and been rewarded with excellent displays.

Kelly  has been the major success of Dalglish’s return but it is how he has begun to rejuvenate  Fernando Torres that will offer Liverpool fans the most encouragement about the rest of the season.

The Spain striker, in particular, suffered under the dispiriting reign of Hodgson, his regressive  tactics at odds with the number nine’s strengths.

It’s telling that Torres’ finest display under the ex-UAE boss, against Chelsea, coincided with Liverpool  playing  an aggressive pressing game high up the field.
It is an approach partly adopted by Dalglish.

That Liverpool have again  begun to  play football is also benefiting players like Torres, who has rediscovered  the hunger and willingness to chase possession that made his opening seasons such a success.

Like his team-mates, Torres now just needs a lucky break to relaunch  his season. And once Steven Gerrard returns from his three-game ban  to reopen the supply line the striker craves, lift off for Torres and Liverpool will surely follow.

None of this, of course, disguises that the Reds  have yet to win under Dalglish and that  there remains several challenges the manager must overcome.

Some, like a lack of creativity and quality back-up to Torres will hopefully be resolved in the transfer market, while the addition of Steve Clarke will help to remedy defensive weaknesses.

However, Liverpool’s fragile confidence,  chief among their problems, will only improve with  results.

Given the new found spirit at Anfield it’s only a matter of time before they improve and Liverpool are back challenging at the right end of the table.
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I've read that some people have begun to criticise King Kenny and I can only say that these bunch of people don't know football. They likely read the papers and note that we've lost 2 and drawn 1. Are they completely blind to the other signs??? Let me list a few, what I think to be obvious signs of improvement.

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 21 2011, 10:47 AM)
Actually, I would love to see how Martin Kelly will do there. From what I've seen this season, he's more physically adept than Martin Skrtel. Both are the same height but Kelly has been stronger in the air, and he's definitely the quicker of the two. Skrtel doesn't read the game particularly well either and with a little more exposure, Kelly could just turn out to be Carra's replacement. No need to look elsewhere unless we absolutely have to. Having said that, signing a centreback is crucial to address our immediate defensive woes what with Skrtel out of sorts, Carra looking like he's getting on and Kyrgiakos vulnerable against quicker forwards.

Sami Hyypia? Fantastic player but I've nothing against the club letting him go. He constantly found it a struggle to keep pace with the game in England and I do think it was time for him to find greener pastures. Looking forward to him returning in the capacity of a coach though.
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I think Liverpool defence just lack that experience needed. When Carra was around, he would be the key as his experience boost confidence among his fellow defenders. with him currently injured, Agger and skrtel rarely played together, it will take time. Even though Kyrgiakos is old, he's not a regular which hardly a commanding figure. Carra presence for years to come would benefit the likes of Agger, Skrtel, Kelly to gain knowledge.

QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 21 2011, 10:56 AM)
On the issue of transfers, looks like we're weighing up a bid for James Milner. Seems like he's been around for ages but he's still only 25. Of all the players we've been linked with recently, I think Milner is the most exciting. He can play anywhere across the middle and he's quick enough to play wide.

On another note, Xabi says "hi".
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Milner eh? he's a good player. the stumbling block would be the wages and the transfer fee since he is currently in Man City. I don't think they will let him go cheap considering he is also an English.
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Yea man...Gerrard and Torres who is pretty quiet during RH's reign has both spoken out and show passion to keep King Kenny in the club. It sure helps if a trophy winning legend comes to lead us on. thumbup.gif

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Rafa effort to revitalized the academy finally acknowledged by the king himself.

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Kenny Dalglish today paid tribute to Rafael Benitez for his part in reviving Liverpool's youth academy.

Conor Coady and Suso, two mainstays of the current under-17 squad, were familiarised with Melwood, the club's training ground, this week as part of plans to blood more youngsters from the previously ailing centre of excellence in Kirkby into the senior ranks in the long-term
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Kirkby underwent a significant transformation in the summer of 2009 when Benitez, then manager of the Reds, enlisted the services of Rodolfo Borrell and Pep Segura - key figures in Barcelona's La Masia academy set-up.

In addition to recruiting his compatriots, the Spaniard also brought one-time chief scout Frank McParland back to his former club to oversee the progression of Liverpool's rising stars.

And Dalglish has hailed Benitez, who left the club acrimoniously last summer, for his efforts in restoring the Anfield production line following more than a decade of decline.

He said: "I wouldn't go and say there are any kids who played in the Youth Cup against Crystal Palace are going to be first team [yet] but the progress at the Academy in the last year and a half has been absolutely fantastic.

"That's great credit to Rafa who brought in Pep Segura, Rodolfo Borrell and Frank McParland. He reorganised the whole Academy and you can see the benefit in the kids now. It's fantastic to see.

"The reserve team's average age has been drastically reduced. Whether we get them through or not, we'd never put that pressure on them, but we're clearly encouraged by the work that's being done there and it's a work in progress."


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Anyone read the news about Konchesky might be used as a bargaining chip for Dempsey?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...verpool-dempsey
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 21 2011, 11:20 AM)
A couple of days ago, I mentioned that above all, I want to see King Kenny re-establishing the pass and move football we used to play back in the late 80's/early 90's. I expressed my opinion on how I thought signing big players came secondary to this. Since then I've come across this article.
1 point in 3 games may appear to be a slow start for any manager but we all know that numbers only tell half the story. If I may, I'd like to quote an analogy I read somewhere regarding oil tankers. It has been said that if you were to turn to engines off on an oil tanker, it would drift another 4-5 miles before it came to a full stop and could be turned around. The article continued to express how we were like this oil tanker. Results or change would not come instantaneously and any fan with half the gift of thought can see that.

I've read that some people have begun to criticise King Kenny and I can only say that these bunch of people don't know football. They likely read the papers and note that we've lost 2 and drawn 1. Are they completely blind to the other signs??? Let me list a few, what I think to be obvious signs of improvement.

1) Morale has improved amongst players and fans. Players like Torres and Reina have reiterated their desire to see out their contracts. Almost everyone else has expressed their confidence in King Kenny who is revered and well respected.

2) Our football has improved. Even though we lost against the mancs, it took King Kenny only 59 minutes to make a positive double change, even when we were a man down. He threw caution to the wind, and best still, he had a plan B. Sure beats seeing your gaffer rub his face or stroke his chin when you go behind eh?

3) His interviews have been brilliant and he clearly knows what he wants and needs to do at the club.

Aren't these 3 points alone cause to be optimistic?

On a side note, does anyone follow Ryan Babel on twitter? You should. It's hilarous now that he's in "twitter jail".


Added on January 21, 2011, 11:28 amHere is an article I came across which echoes my thougths.
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such an ace of an article! thanks Duke! gotta say Dalglish's return really has some effected the players and club and not to mention the supporters in a positive way.The last remnant of the attrocious G&H era are completely wiped out
I for one wouldnt mind him taking reigns longer than this season, yes he's only been 3 games in charge but at least the management owes it to the man at least a full season. Never had a chance to watch him lead the team during the 80's, so glad I get a chance now.undoubted legend.

I for one am looking forward to every Liverpool matches now compared to the dross we've been serving up under Hodgson's time. If rumors are to be true we might just have Young and Suarez by the end of January. Interesting times smile.gif


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Anyone read the news about Konchesky might be used as a bargaining chip for Dempsey?

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/media-watch...verpool-dempsey
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Dempsey? If its at the cost of getting rid of the PFK then by all means..but dont see if happening, rules state that a player can represent no more than 2 clubs in a season. PFK played for Fulham and Liverpool already this season which makes it highly unlikely that he will leave. plus Warnock's loan isnt confirmed just yet so we might not be seeing the back of him just yet


Added on January 21, 2011, 7:48 pmTriple POST!

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...verpool?cc=4716

came out from the horses mouth itself. another legend in the making. gotta love Reina!

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Villa signed Bent for £24m, they are strengthening their attack, I can't see them letting A. Young to leave unless for a crazy amount of money....

Our defenses start to crumble apart since the departure of Hyypia... he's not having much of playing time but his experiences and leadership as senior defender in training ground is a huge loss. That's is why both Rafa and Hodgson offered him a coaching role's contract. Unfortunately he refused, cos he still want to play... the departure of Masch later, makes thing worst. Our weaken defenses is now over exposed.. like I've been saying a thousand times earlier, we need a ball winner midfielder, a link between attack and defense. If there's no one in the market, maybe, just maybe, we could convert Kuyt to play that role, I bet he can chased down the opponents all day long... what Lucas 'the statue' failed to do... yet.

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Liverpool Football Club today unveiled plans for a new supporter consultation group that it hopes will allow fans to help shape the club's future through regular and constructive dialogue with senior LFC officials. real business now?
http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news...rters-committee
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Villa signed Bent for £24m, they are strengthening their attack, I can't see them letting A. Young to leave unless for a crazy amount of money....

Our defenses start to crumble apart since the departure of Hyypia... he's not having much of playing time but his experiences and leadership as senior defender in training ground is a huge loss. That's is why both Rafa and Hodgson offered him a coaching role's contract. Unfortunately he refused, cos he still want to play... the departure of Masch later, makes thing worst. Our weaken defenses is now over exposed.. like I've been saying a thousand times earlier, we need a ball winner midfielder, a link between attack and defense. If there's no one in the market, maybe, just maybe, we could convert Kuyt to play that role, I bet he can chased down the opponents all day long... what Lucas 'the statue' failed to do... yet.
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Added on January 21, 2011, 9:26 pm
QUOTE(Dev_RuchI @ Jan 21 2011, 12:51 AM)
Too many mediocre signings... and we ended up spending a lot overall.  Would you buy 10 Wiras, or just one BMW?  One would think it would be obvious, especially you really need ONE good car.
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yea thats what i wanna say haha...

so many mediocre signings, some dont even make it to bench lah...sigh.

but i think jack hobbs is still a good lad, i watch him play in leeds game v arsenal...eh quite good better than skrytel summore.

guthrie also not bad, he's in newcastle now btw...

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such an ace of an article! thanks Duke! gotta say Dalglish's return really has some effected  the players and club and not to mention the supporters in a positive way.The last remnant of the attrocious G&H era are completely wiped out
I for one wouldnt mind him taking reigns longer than this season, yes he's only been 3 games in charge but at least the management owes it to the man at least a full season. Never had a chance to watch him lead the team during the 80's, so glad I get a chance now.undoubted legend.

I for one am looking forward to every Liverpool matches now compared to the dross we've been serving up under Hodgson's time. If rumors are to be true we might just have Young and Suarez by the end of January. Interesting times smile.gif
Same here buddy. Now I greet each upcoming match with enthusiasm and not pessimism when Hodgson was in charge. I also love the fact that Dalglish displays some emotion from the touchline. I've always been a fan of managers who celebrate as though they've just scored when the team does. We've not had one since... Dalglish? Well Souness maybe. Oh wait a minute, Roy did though most of the time it was a defeated face rub.

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Stevie: This is how you clear the ball out of the danger zone people! I call it the Istanbul header!

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ian ayre is the last regime left by G&H....

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tell that to skrtel!
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---------------Reina---------------

Kelly-----Soto----Agger----Aurellio

-------Spearing----Lucas----------

Johnson-------Meireles--------Maxi

---------------Torres-------------


we will win tonite's match if KD field this lineup, KD first away Win
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---------------Reina---------------

Kelly-----Soto----Agger----Aurellio

-------Spearing----Lucas----------

Johnson-------Meireles--------Maxi

---------------Torres-------------
we will win tonite's match if KD field this lineup, KD first away Win
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hey duke, were u in royal watching the derby match ?
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Poulsen start..huhuhu

Reina, Kelly, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi, Lucas, Poulsen, Kuyt, Meireles, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Cole, Konchesky, Aurelio, Spearing, Kyrgiakos, Shelvey.

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Kenny Dalglish has made one change from the derby, with Jay Spearing dropping to the bench.

The Liverpool team in full is: Reina, Kelly, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi, Lucas, Poulsen, Kuyt, Meireles, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Cole, Konchesky, Aurelio, Spearing, Kyrgiakos, Shelvey.
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was tat ryan babel in the last pic? so he is nt going anyway... abit disappointed nt to see pacheco, spearing n suso in the starting line up thou
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QUOTE(digilife @ Jan 22 2011, 07:51 PM)
Kenny Dalglish has made one change from the derby, with Jay Spearing dropping to the bench.

The Liverpool team in full is: Reina, Kelly, Johnson, Agger, Skrtel, Maxi, Lucas, Poulsen, Kuyt, Meireles, Torres. Subs: Gulacsi, Cole, Konchesky, Aurelio, Spearing, Kyrgiakos, Shelvey.
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That is interesting. We have no strikers and only one attacking mid on the bench ? Should at least squeeze in Pacheco on the bench.
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LFC Correction: Dani Pacheco on the bench today v Wolves and not Paul Konchesky.
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hmmm....unlike previous matches..the high tempo not present in early minutes...

maybe this time we slowly but surely dominate the match instead of becoming flat as previously..
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Good decision by the lineswoman to allow play to go on. Maybe we'd get some decisions if they had more female referees
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it seems like Wolves are trying to play a physical game with us..
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Looks like hunt instead of ward biggrin.gif

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Some two months ago, we were well beaten by Wolves at Anfield. Few can argue that Wolves did not deserve their 3 points. This time round we're deserving of our lead having had more posession and attempts on goal.

Same players, different manager, much better football. Let's hope we take all 3 points.
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I have a feeling someone would sent off soon. Nobody in particular but I feel as though it's gonna happen.
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Tactically we improved a lot. Torres looks aggresive (a bit over) but better than an uninterested Torres...

3 points will do a lot to secure table position, first win for Kenny and provide the much needed confidence.

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Good first half. Wolves up to their usual nonsense, trying to break us down by roughing up our boys. The ref done nothing to clamp this down and made some poor decisions through out.

But we presevered and outplayed them. We looked defensively solid, the back four looking comfortable and Kelly is looking good by each game. Midfield wise, the trio Lucas - Meireles - Poulsen have been quite impressive. Im quite impressed with Poulsen's performance especially. He's been tidy and he supports the attacks quite well.

Upfront, Torres looking sharp and is up for it. He's looking 'happier' on the pitch - he drags everyone everywhere. He's back!

Cant wait for the 2nd half.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 22 2011, 09:39 PM)
Some two months ago, we were well beaten by Wolves at Anfield. Few can argue that Wolves did not deserve their 3 points. This time round we're deserving of our lead having had more posession and attempts on goal.

Same players, different manager, much better football. Let's hope we take all 3 points.
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And we wonder why, this ain't Kenny's team either if according to Woy's theory. whistling.gif
I'm bad, to take a dig at Woy even after he left rolleyes.gif
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Speaking of Poulsen, it has to be said that he played Mereiles through with a good pass. When looking at the starting lineup on paper, one could easily have been fooled to think we were playing with two midfielders sitting in front of the back four. Whilst Poulsen has been sitting back, Lucas has however been getting forward to support Mereiles. Positive football at last!

Anyone notice Torres give Stearman an earful after scoring?
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Jan 22 2011, 09:39 PM)
Same players, different manager, much better football. Let's hope we take all 3 points.
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Yes hopefully. Wolves is surely capable of finding the net. They did scored 3 against City last week. Let's hope our defenders are a their best.

Btw everytime the camera focus on KD I just want to thank him. I can see the pass and move gradually fitting in the system. The pass was intuitive at times and evey player is seems on the same page.
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QUOTE(hfi @ Jan 22 2011, 09:43 PM)
Good first half. Wolves up to their usual nonsense, trying to break us down by roughing up our boys. The ref done nothing to clamp this down and made some poor decisions through out.

But we presevered and outplayed them. We looked defensively solid, the back four looking comfortable and Kelly is looking good by each game. Midfield wise, the trio Lucas - Meireles - Poulsen have been quite impressive. Im quite impressed with Poulsen's performance especially. He's been tidy and he supports the attacks quite well.

Upfront, Torres looking sharp and is up for it. He's looking 'happier' on the pitch - he drags everyone everywhere. He's back!

Cant wait for the 2nd half.
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Yeah the trio quite impressive especially runs by Lucas. Cant believe its the same Lucas I berated couple of seasons ago laugh.gif Even Poulsen looks half decent. laugh.gif
& we wonder why Torres under a '35 years internationally experienced manager' looks lame doh.gif
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Haha yeah. Stearman has been winding up Torres the entire first half. They've done the same with Maxi as well - Torres stood his ground but they got to Maxi, coz you can actually see Maxi backing out of challenges after that.


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yeah, its refreshing to see less hoofing & hope while more pass & 1 touch footie. rclxms.gif

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Beautiful goal from Mereiles. Not everyday you hit a volley over. 6'5" keeper
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Adam Hamill's coming on. Heard good things about him when he was at our academy. Local lad. Hope he does well but we still win:)
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Shelvey in, Poulsen out...
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Rafa is still very much a gentleman...catch his latest interview with BBC and his comments on Kenny...brilliant!

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congratulations. A very entertaining match and a very convincing win for Liverpool. Hope to see this kind of performance more often.
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KD have the same goal celebration style as SAF. Typical Scotsman?

anyway, a nice and entertaining game. not only Liverpool but credit to Wolves also. they don't sit back but take the game to Liverpool.
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much better football by the lads with beautiful short passing game. good confidence boost for the team. next up, 2 home games before our meeting with chelsea. let's keep the momentum going, lads! congratz.

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Good game and well deserved win. Strange to see Steve Clark there celebrating our goal haha. But i think its clear now that the healing process is well under way and we just need to keep the momentum going.

Mereiles is the motm for me. Inspiring performance by him - his movement, passing and vision really helped the team to find its feet again.
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Much Improved Game.. If Luis Suarez transfered in.. then we would make double at Chelsea .. More improved game and tactic's .. Raul Meireles was superb today ! cant wait for net game when Raul Meireles and Gerrard Combine !!
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is it so hard to win an away game???..biggest different i noticed..under Roy he put Raul on right wing...under Kenny he encourage Raul to get into penalty box...not only Raul,even polsen got into scoring position in penalty box...ur 30 years experience is full of shit Roy!!!! shakehead.gif
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for the next game, am hoping for gerrard to play in poulsen's position, playing as deep-lying playmaker. his hollywood passing could be of good use from that deep position, and let meireles continues to roam just behind torres.

p.s. 2 games for poulsen under KD, and he doesn't look that bad either. the through ball that leads to the 1st goal is especially wonderful. congrats, poulsen!
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sometimes i think when Gerrard is not around, our midfielders are more expressive...
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maybe we can start thinking playing without Gerrard in the team...
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