hi guys, YTL wimax launch already? how much the package?

Didnt hear any news about tat @.@ In Fact oni recently i kn tat YTL got broadband ~.~ Lolx... Waiting for the launch ~~~~~~

Possible launch: 18 November 2010

http://www.mobileworld.com.my/v3/news/778-...es-in-2011.html

For real? Looking for a new ISP since I have been very unhappy with Streamyx. Any idea what they are coming up with? YTL has a good brand name so I am sure they won't screw it up.

Exciting. I need new internet services. There was this hype about AMAX but their site is down, and it's terribly expensive.

Currently using Maxis but hate the cap. I want something like Unifi with good speed.

What is dual play?

"initially covering 65% of the population of Peninsular Malaysia in one go, and 80% by January 2011." sounds good eh?

"this service could actually be available from as early as the middle of 2011." But it'll take awhile.

No word on speed?

maxis have unlimited package rm99/month. Please read maxis wireless bb thread.

YTL ? Where is beta tester ? They canot just open service for everyone nationwide on 18 November 2010 without testing. Better wait and see.

I think they are conducting trials with TARC students at the Kampar campus.

Very likely YTL will start big at Ipoh area since YTL Power has lots of investments in Perak such as their power generation plant at Segari and the world award winning Pangkor Laut Resort all located here.

It's good to wake TM up because there're still companies who are willing to cover Ipoh and its surrounding suburbs when TM is for some reason avoiding investments in Ipoh due to its large population mainly which consists of ethnic Chinese.

There are many other isps which see the potential here such as Jaring, Umobile and DiGi.

pcbase would you please direct me to this "unlimited package" information since I cannot find it at all. Thanks.

so they launch mid of november, oh, just 2 weeks later, good!

Yeah but "launch" does not carry the same meaning as "available to customers".

For example, UMobile 42Mbps HSPA+ has been "launched" but they have not even set up the hardware/base towers and are not prepared to offer it to customers, as far as I know.

already pre - lunch. it has given a name. YES Broadband. Quite interesting concept. no sim whatsoever. just an id for use.YES id will cover it all.

just type www.yes.my

Please tell me how I can get this.


My internet is working fine but http://www.yes.my/ is not loading.

check your browser setting. should be fine with flash apps.

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Added on November 5, 2010, 12:21 amYes Wimax


Check their ads.nice.

This post has been edited by cengkoi: Nov 5 2010, 12:21 AM

Congested? It won't load even after waiting or refreshing.

Could you post info?

no info yet.just soft pre-launch.just a basic concept on what they will use.

Oh, I see, like the UMobile launch. It's an ahem launch.

At least we are getting somewhere.

The government minister said 2x companies have 100Mbps services available in March 2011, that better be true - not 100Mbps "service", but only 10Mbps or 3Mbps download...

that what u get when menteri kebudayaan, kesenian dan warisan talking about the internet.

dont know bout you guys after P1 make a mess I dont think I ever wanna get Wimax again...

You sure about your comments?
My 4mbps Streamyx is even less reliable than all the mobile HSDPA providers.

I have to resort to Umobile to surf properly at night when I get back from work. Notice I only mentioned "surf".It's that bad that you can't even load sites properly even with a 4mbps line.

i doubt that it wont be any better than other ISP in Malaysia

Agree, Streamyx quality is bad. Don't use it anymore. What is your 4Mbps price per month?

And one cannot generalise Wireless broadband because there are all sorts or services from all sorts of companies, 3G, 3.5G, HSPA, HSPDA, GPRS, 2G, yada yada, and now supposed "4G / WiMax" and HSPA+...

And atrocious claims - e.g. UMobile has 42Mbps HSPA+ but only predicts average speeds of 3-10Mbps.

Even at half or a quarter of 42mbps is still impressive.
That's an average of 10mbps..

Anything faster than Streamyx 4mbps will sure enough to give TM a run for its money.
Believe a not?

If Jaring comes out with 3mbps ADSL, P1 returns with the early 10mbps Wiggy plan with more consistency or Umobile starts the 42mbps HSPA+ MIMO plan with similar prices, people will start abandoning their 4mbps Streamyx.

Even better if they include call plans/voice.

Consumers will have more options in fixed lines and start to "potong".

It's time we start to get "data only lines" into our homes.
All calls, video, and internet routed through the same "dry" line.Conventional POTs is obsolete.

I lol at this one anyway, anybody knows what is the advertised speed for this YTL?

YTL/YES has not proclaimed their speeds yet.

In fact one of their "employees" just touted the website. But you know it doesn't say anything.

I'll see if I can get some tangible info.

Don't have to worry about unlimited data for YTL wimax

It won't happen.

Even if it does, you'd get capped speed when you breach a certain limit, thats the way it is for wireless stuff. Limited bandwidth with the airwaves. But I wonder if they'd give a more generous cap than the ones than 'P1 Fake 4g' is giving right now.

LOL at P1 fake 4G... but we are powerless to stop it, short of a class action suit. But we are not (or at least most of us aren't) their customers anyway.

Airwaves are limited in bandwidth, base stations are limited, coverage is limited etc, but data volume is not. So a 6GB or 5GB cap is ridiculous.

I thought P1 has a 30GB cap plan (much more generous than your average 6GB plan).

www.yes.my claimed 3-5 times faster than 3G
how many times faster than HSDPA?

HSPA+ is almost here... perhaps YTL should revise their speed offer
if it is not competitive, better dont offer

I hope this will work out. Malaysia needs better internet providers.

YES(YTL) is suppose to be Pay-As-You-Go, so there shouldn't be any cap on downloads.
They will probably charge by per megabyte.
You use more, you pay more.

I don't like the no-sim concept though.
It would be too easy to steal account and hijack.

This post has been edited by totally_skint: Nov 6 2010, 12:08 PM

I prefer unlimited account... if I pay I cant imagene 50GB of data will come to my bill.... I will get heart attack...

excited for the YES!!! hopes its really YES we can download smoothly!!! lol

How it works without sim? CDMA?

Oh god. skint if you are right then that totally blows.

Since airwaves are limited, it does not matter if you build a large amount of base station. A certain area can only support so many people, this is from my understanding anyway.

As such, the bandwidth cap is to, on one hand, try to reduce to amount of people using the waves at the same time, and to a certain extent, limit their expenditure on the international bandwidth. I think that is the best way people can think of to limit the use of the airwaves. The way YES is presenting the charge as you go system, it kinda sucks. Bandwidth is probably going to be expensive for the end users.

I wonder if there is a tiered charge, like the more you use, the less you pay, up to a certain limit. And after that, charge an very high amount to discourage people to go over that set limit.

This post has been edited by kaiserreich: Nov 6 2010, 06:40 PM

They don't even have a large enough number of base stations anyway, to saturate the entire country, or at least for major cities.

You can have different base stations together operating on different carrier frequencies, with the same signal broadcast. But yes, high frequencies limit the number of channels (different networks).

But they don't even have adequate base stations yet to cover every area, so this is moot. No use putting them too close together (if they operate on the same carrier frequency), but they should be everywhere.

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Added on November 6, 2010, 11:59 pmIt is not a bandwidth cap, it is a tiny volume cap, after which they cut your bandwidth (to virtually zero).

Your "tiered charge" system may be too complex and idealistic.

Nevertheless, heavy users are disadvantaged by the majority of plans and services available, because at the moment there is no service that provides affordable, yet high speed, and higher than a few measly GBs volume internet.

This post has been edited by LightningFist: Nov 6 2010, 11:59 PM

I'm not sure how YTL rate the 5X because maximum throughput (based on their spectrum - to use 10Mhz configuration) is ~40Mbps.

HSPA is 14Mbps and HSPA+ is 21 Mbps (the 40Mbps claimed by U Mobile is by using multiple carrier - more frequency - it's not the tech capability).

So where is the 5X coming from?

I heard they are going to offer 11Mbps DL/1 Mbps UL with pay as you go model. So there won't be any quote/FUP.

So people can enjoy the maximum-if-available-speed of 11Mbps DL/ 1Mbps UL forever, as long as you can afford to pay.

I personally feel is a good model for those people who like to complain that they are being throttled or provide a quota that is too low based on the price they paid.

YES will be happy if people use its service to torrent or P2P, the more these group of people use, the more YES will earn.

So it's a win-win solution.

However, I feel people who tend to torrent and p2p at home, instead of going to movie theatre to pay for RM12 for a movie will be willing to pay for the service.

It's not the money, it's the content we can't get or get easily in a timely manner.
Many films are not screened locally.
Same for tv or is several seasons late.

Flash SIM just like TM EVDO modem or CDMA phone.

What if their pay-as-you go model charges as high as existing competitors?

i.e. the data usage for 5GB is Rm100, for example.

At any rate, wireless broadband is not meant to be unlimited. To get unlimited data, fixed line is the way to go.

Early adoptee will enjoy pretty good speed, just wonder if they can sustain

Agree with skint, MAJORITY of movies are not shown, TV is the same. Who wants shows 4 seasons late or movies that nobody else would ever care to watch...

Price is expensive, just like other services which charge a bomb after 5GB. Hence it is ineffective.

Here's to hoping that YES realize the problem with P1 Fake 4g, and the other 3G/HSDPA competitors. I mean, it is pretty easy to figure out the problems right?

If they invested in 60% coverage, they should no doubt invest in the pipes.

Pay-As-You-Go (PayGo from now on - less typing ) means F-L-E-X-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y.
So what if you don't use much one month and a lot the next?
With existing ISPs, you pay the same even if you don't go online the whole month and throttled if you go over your allocation.

This post has been edited by totally_skint: Nov 8 2010, 01:06 AM

Fast is one thing. But majority user like use still prefer some bitorent usage. Surf net and simple video files, any of the ISP can provide w/o much issue. But as some of us download HD movies, series, software. How should this wimax can match such demand. I wonder country like Taiwan and China, how suppose their bittorent preform, it is very good speed? If yest, ISP here should somehow able to provide such service.

oh, ytl yes.my got a speedtest program too? self-created?

http://www.yes.my/en/why-yes/speed-test.aspx

same speedtest software from Ookla which also being used in speedtest.net

They need to get their priorities straight. Service > speed test.

A lot of promises have been made around this time - is any one going to keep them?

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Added on November 8, 2010, 3:27 pmOn YES' website it says 11+ more days.

But I am truly disappointed that it is a phone + internet service. No info on internet service itself.

This post has been edited by LightningFist: Nov 8 2010, 03:27 PM

you should be grateful that u can even start to do torrenting, because outside our country, yes they have freaking high speed, but if u start some torrenting for illegal usage (download hd movies, series WITHOUT paying), you gonna get urself some sort of fines. You DONT expect an ISP to provide a better service for you to do torrenting, period.

u are half right. they do have internet service but it means the amount u paid is for internet service or phone service. so it's either one.

u can choose to make phone calls or choose to spend it on internet service.

or both

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This post has been edited by HeartMePlz: Nov 8 2010, 04:01 PM

I'm guessing that YES will charge for data by volume, phone calls by time (different mobile and fixed line charges) and SMS by message.

You all do realise that YES stands to make money terminating calls to your YES 018 numbers too (paid by originating telcos) ?

Also maybe free or one time per call charge between YES subscribers.

Do remember that a real 4G network is completely IP based meaning everything travels with data.

Observing how modern day SIP based voip providers operate, on-net calls can be totally unlimited with just a small monthly fixed fee.
Off-net calls can also be unlimited to fixed/mobile networks if pricing structure is right at RM150-200.
When a network is totally IP-based even an overseas call can be FREE

Just like how you make a Skype call from Malaysia to a friend who might be in the Himalayas who happen to have a good internet connection as well.
Since both uses the same soft app, Skype, your calls will be FREE.

The internet has no boundaries.It'll only get better with speed.

But then we are still operating the per-minute calls over here with our ageing networks.

But with Skype on-net calls while free, you still pay your ISP for the bandwidth.
With YES, your ISP is now also your telco
That's why I suggested that YES might simply give free calls between YES subscribers or for a simple one time connection charge (say 10 sen untimed)

And since YES promos suggest a prepaid model (refer "no expiry" claims) they won't be charging monthly calls packages.
However in future they might offer different call packages ala current celco practice.

still wondering how this yes service is...

already pre reg on the website..

c how it goes on 19th..

i really hope they use google voice service or something similar

But apart of free movies and songs, what else we want for 4G? Fast loading? Maybe for video call and simple video viewing. Then what else this 4G can offer to us?
Or should we stick to streamyx at home, while phone stick to 4G for simple video calls and surf net outside home.

Most of us have high latency, low speed internet.

This is not able to load webpages smoothly.

Assuming you do not watch tv, even youtube, news, stocks, websites for studies, email, are all tremendously slow.

High speed internet would greatly improve our quality of life in many respects.

In European countries and America they are making internet a basic necessity or human right.

Note : WiMax in Malaysia not 4G

it says no throttling and no capping. 4G is supposedly also good for gaming, also bandwidth good enough for HDTV. a stable and consistent 2mbps would be wonderful

should i sign up for a 018 number?
cause it asked for my ic
not sure if it's okay to do so since (call me one of them frogs under the coconut shell but) i've never heard of ytl before

YTL owns almost all the shopping centre along Jalan Bukit Bintang.. Developer for Saffron Sentul... Owns an island resort Pangkor Laut

YTL is big and respectable.

Today, my phone is without dial tone and I can't go online - I've lost count of the times I encountered this problem during my 10 years as a customer of you-know-who.

So, Yes, I'm eager to jump ship and I've registered, got myself auspicious numbers

YTL is Malaysia's largest listed non-GLC company.

The Star Biz

So they are not funded by the government?

We shall see how good the service is and whether that matters.

I clueless about their internet package and will wait after official launch to see how good their service.

Everyone's clueless too. Just have to wait till next Friday.

I dont care about their speed and what so ever but i need an internet at least 512kbps and UNLIMITED..... an unlimited mobile broadband im searching for.... most of our mobile broadbang cap at unreasonable speed such as 64kbps and 128kbps.... the hell at this rate, loading lowyat webpage takes 2min...damn.......

I will give YTL a try on next Fri after so long with Digi BB (who turned me down recently)... but, personally i don't put a very high expectation on the service quality as i still haven't see any guarantee speed yet... (if anyone see that kindly let me know).

I'm 110% willing to pay whatever i use but the quality must be consistently maintain at >=512kbps/256kbps ul at all the time.

I think YTL WiMAX is your cup of tea, it's pay-per-use model ... so I will say not many people will dare to use it to P2P or heavy usage. So their basestation will not go congest easily.

Since you are willing to pay, I think shouldn't be a problem.

I heard some of them already started using the service. Can anyone verify this?

Well, 512kbps = 64kBps, so still an ok speed, not great for downloading. But if it was stable, then good. I highly doubt this will be the minimum speed.

so still no details yet? ytl even going setup a large booth at KL sentral which close tho the exit to sentral plaza.... and p1 / maxis just got a small booth at centre...

Yes, i'm not a heavy downloader. I use broadband mainly for surfing, conference (audio), some movie streaming (~10% of the time). And so far, i've never finished my Digi BB monthly quota (average about 60% only of the 3GB quota). That's why, to me, stable and reliable speed are much more important than the big monthly quota.

This post has been edited by ks98: Nov 14 2010, 02:19 PM

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This post has been edited by prole: Sep 30 2024, 09:11 PM

Today got info from 1 of their promoters in front lot10... they quote their minimum speed would be 7Mbps!!

i'd prefer to wait until the full info reveal to public... base on my personal experience, some time the promoter would give me a wrong info on what their service can do... for example, when i subscribed to Digi last time, got one promoter even told me that Digi BB can go up to 14.4Mbps... but, I know this is just the total speed what HSPA can give and it's impossible for user to get that kind of speed...

This post has been edited by ks98: Nov 16 2010, 08:40 AM

wow, how many money

registered edi... lets c wat happen this friday

This is the longest week. sigh...

Bullshit lah. Minimum 7 Mbps is theoretically not possible for WiMAX. No ISP will dare to guarantee minimum speed for wireless broadband.

yeah i also go visit their booth at Rawang and they say the same thing...

Went shopping at low yat plaza today. Notice there are banners promoting YES service with

9 sen = 3mb
or
9 sen = 1min
or
9 sen = 1 sms

Go figure it out whether it value for money.

Yes it can. Distance from tower and the actual hardware (ISP side) plays a whole lot of role giving those speeds. Not to defend YTL, but just saying it is possible. The theoretical maximum speed IIRC is around 70Mbps.

OR? Have to pick one over the other?

This post has been edited by exentric_nova: Nov 17 2010, 07:18 PM

If based on that rate:

3GB would be RM90.

30GB would be RM900.



I do hope this rumour isn't true. But who knows, it might be.

The dangerous thing is the password. If it falls into wrong hands, many people will go bankrupt.

They better put a monthly maximum cap of RM250 to their bills or else if your password gets stolen, you're going to pay thousands for your negligence.

I did some study of my own on why wireless broadband under deliver.

Based on the 10Mhz channel bandwidth the local WiMAX ISP is deploying, the theoretical should be around 35Mbps.
Note that 35Mbps is if you are in the best signal region using the service by yourself.
Subject to how far the ISP blast their signal, only <100m or LOS is qualified to be called the best signal.

So mix-n-match the subs under poor,moderate and good signal, you will probably only be getting average 15Mbps maximum throughput per sector shared by everyone under the sector.

In short, the actual speed and the theoretical speed can be very very far apart.

Same applies to 3G as well.

COMMON WIRELESS BROADBAND CONCEPT:
The more station = smaller cell = more bandwidth for every subs = more investment for ISP = less profit for ISP

So, more profit for ISP translates to more unhappy subs hahahaha

so, what does everyone think of the pricing?

9 sen = 3mb

3GB would be RM90.

30GB would be RM900.

i don't even know how much i use on home broadband these days, my guess it could be almost 10gig cause of downloads? imagine PS3 download DLC / mini game?

How does the call and sms charges compare to others?

This post has been edited by totally_skint: Nov 17 2010, 09:44 PM

He might have said some crap but maybe he meant the minimum or smallest "package" bandwidth was 7Mbps.
I hope it is fast though. With my current internet I hit maximum 7.44Mbps but it usually goes at a quarter of that or less. But it's bloody capped.

9 sen for 3Mb/0.375MB?
Then 1MB = RM0.24
1GB = RM240
6GB = RM1440
30 GB = RM7200

This is crazy. Even if it were 9 sen for 3MB, it is RM180 for 6GB, which is UBER expensive.

Whoever posted that ad, online or elsewhere, just doomed YES. Because this info will spread.
And once Friday rolls around, and this is confirmed, GG.

0.09 = 3mb

0.03 = 1mb, miscalculation bro

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Added on November 17, 2010, 11:19 pmor is it my mistake? Mb = megabit?

This post has been edited by hi54ever: Nov 17 2010, 11:19 PM

i think its rate will be like electric la.. 1st few gb is 0.09 sen then after few gb another few sen increment..

You guys sure about the rate??

This is not looking good at all for YES.

I think i am gonna use the YES my mobile surfing only if this rate applies.

If they implement this kind of broadband, most people will say NO! and stick to current broadband... I think it will not last long and they will make a package later.... Although capped at 128kbps, in one week i can exceed almost 2GB...

we will see tomolo after the launch.............

its a NO for me if this is what YES gonna be.

am not comfortable with "surprises" on internet usage bill !

i rather lack of discipline, so i'd go for something lumpsum and caps.

unifi not reach my area yet so... i most probably will go for u-mobile...

If it's GB then I will go.. but sadly latest news to date is 9sen / 3MB.. which is only good for mobile phone surfing (iphone etc), and not for normal pc surfing. RM30 for 1GB is too expensive. 3GB will make up RM90, which I can get 10GB Digi plan already (RM108 without rebate), or other telcos plan which is way cheaper.

What's more YTL is a new player, and with that rate, they will not be able to capture much of the market share. May be it's cheap for prepaid mobile phone users to jump ship, but not for home internet user. Let's hope that the rate is only for prepaid mobile phone package (which I think will be more likely), and not for Mobile Broadband.

Hahahahaha...

Those rates are freaking daylight robbery!!

Bravo YES! Bravo! You're no better than the rest of the crooks sucking up peoples money!!

I'll stick to my RM 140 p/m 1+ TB 4 Mbps Screamyx combo kthxbai

This post has been edited by solarmystic: Nov 18 2010, 10:21 AM

If the rate is same as mentioned over here, i think I'll pass.

I rather stick with my P1 and Digi Prepaid Internet.

oh so many negative feedback already...

sure some guy from YTL is monitoring feedbacks from lowyat.net.... they better revise or come with a unlimited but throttled speed plan...otherwise all other 3g and P1 would keep smiling away...