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post Nov 8 2010, 04:01 PM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 8 2010, 01:46 PM)
They need to get their priorities straight. Service > speed test.

A lot of promises have been made around this time - is any one going to keep them?


Added on November 8, 2010, 3:27 pmOn YES' website it says 11+ more days.

But I am truly disappointed that it is a phone + internet service. No info on internet service itself.
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u are half right. they do have internet service but it means the amount u paid is for internet service or phone service. so it's either one.

u can choose to make phone calls or choose to spend it on internet service.

or both

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post Nov 18 2010, 04:54 PM

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guys, no worries smile.gif

The plan is true, but do remember about the rebate smile.gif


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post Nov 18 2010, 09:53 PM

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1mb=0.03cents

so if u use 10GB per month, they will charge u for 0.021 cents for 1mb

so 1gb=1024mb
10g=10240mb
10gb=Rm 215.04

For Every 4GB and Above, u will get Rm9 Rebate for Each GB

so u will get Rm90 rebate on ur next month..

Anyway Stay Tuned for Tmr smile.gif

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post Nov 18 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(zellleonhart @ Nov 18 2010, 09:57 PM)
Please rephrase, should be RM0.021 not 0.021cents..

And the RM0.021 price for 10gb is already deducted the rebate, so RM215.04 is wad u pay for 10GB... price already rebate...
am i right?
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u are wrong, the rm0.021 is the rate if u use more than 4gb, and the rebate will be given out the next month
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:34 PM

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it's still depand ur usage :/ if u use less pay less, use more pay more
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:42 PM

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rm 30 still affordable :/ it's the lowest entry cost
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:02 PM

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1GB internet fees= Rm30

OR Rm 30.00/ 9 Cent= 333 mins

Bro, use caculator please :/
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 18 2010, 11:10 PM)
But it's no longer Pay-As-You-Go anymore is it?
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It's still pay as u go method, ehh should be pay as u use.

It's all in one plan, mobile internet, mobile boardband, mobile voice..

for those 3, they just need RM 30 to keep u active.

its a prepaid method...not postpaid


Added on November 18, 2010, 11:23 pm
QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:14 PM)
It encourages to use more but at the same time use less also okay. I think the idea is not bad after all.

However I do have suspicion on:

1. If I don't retain usage of RM30 per month, what will happen?
2. In order to get this month rebate on next month, is that means the next month also need to retain usage of RM30 as well or it can be 0?
3. If this month rebate is RM50 and my next month usage is RM30, is that means I can have free credit of RM20 or it will be zeroed?
4. If there is credit in my account, let say RM10 and I decide not to use, is that means I will lose the RM10 and cannot cash it?
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1. they will auto credit rm 30 on ur credit limit. Just to keep ur ID active
2. their min usage for every month is rm30
3. take a example, u got FREE rebate rm 50, and u left Rm30 Credit, if this current month, u nvr use their data, they will minus the rm 30 from ur rm 50 rebate, and they will bought forward ur rm 20 rebate to ur next month, and ur rm 30 credit to ur next month. They minus the Rebate first then ur Credit.
4. u will lose it, and ur next month account limit will become 0.

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post Nov 18 2010, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(totally_skint @ Nov 18 2010, 11:29 PM)
So much for simplicity. doh.gif
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the best way is go for tmr launch :/
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:41 PM)
Not special.

Actually it's the same model like what Maxis/Digi/Celcom are doing.

Maxis plan is minimum RM30 also and you can use it for voice/sms/data as well.

http://www.maxis.com.my/personal/mobile/ra...p?iStruct=0:1:0

The only difference is the rate for voice/sms/data. YES is cheaper as compared to Maxis/Digi/Celcom.

However, I do want to point out one fine print, it mentions the voice and sms rates are 9 cents per min/sms however I believe it's only for on-net but not off-net. And note that majority mobile and fixed line numbers are OFF-NET to YES subscribers. Subject to the rate for off-net call, it's the real deal whether it's cheap or expensive for voice and sms.

For data, after all the rebates, it's quite comparable to other 3G operators.

We can split to two ranges of subscribers, Voice+Data User (like android/iPhone/BB) and Broadband Internet user

If you are a existing Maxis/Celcom/Digi Android/iPhone/BB subscribers, I don't see any advantage in subscribing to YES actually (not to mention the silly phone).

For Broadband user, the rate will be slightly cheaper as compared to Maxis/Digi/Celcom Wireless Broadband but more expensive as compared to P1.
So, you can see YES is here to challenge MAXIS/DIGI/CELCOM existing mobile voice + data operators.

We will see a red ocean war happening very soon ... hehe ...

Unless YES can come out with some phones that's not as silly as the YES BUZZ, sorry I won't consider.
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ehh bro.. u are wrong.. Lowest Entry Cost Per Month. Maxis- Rm30 ( Voice). Boardband (RM 48) Internet, Rm 18(Mobile Data) so 30+48+18=96.

Well Yes are offering All in One Plan.

I do a research on them doh.gif

but i still think YES is offering to Lite User instead on HARDCORE user, unless they willing to pay more


Added on November 18, 2010, 11:52 pm
QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:48 PM)
Thanks for your clarification.

Indeed i'm a little confused because i thought it's prepaid but it seems that they can auto-debit my account now.
If what you say is right, even if I don't use their service for 2 months, they are still charging me RM60.
Then it's not prepaid. It's postpaid !!!! Similar with Maxis Plan 30,50,80,120 etc.
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yea. they will still charge u RM60. but remember, u dun have any more credit to credit..if they really provide good service. i think u will be easily hit their min usage of Rm30

Maxis Plan Rm30 is only for Voice, not internet :/ so they are different concept.



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post Nov 18 2010, 11:54 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:52 PM)
No no no no ... I'm currently subscribing to Maxis Plan 80. But I can use Mobile Internet at Pay Per Use Basis (10kb for 10cents) without adding additional data package. The data charges for pay per use is part of my RM80 minimal commitment.
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Yea. Mobile Internet and Voice Right?

But how bout mobile boardband? 10kb for 10 cents is crazy priced
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:06 AM)
yea i know the price is expensive but what I mean it's still the same type of charging mechanism for Maxis Plan and Yes Plan only the rate is different.

It depends whether the subscribers need to combine Broadband with Mobile Internet and voice. From my point of view, I don't need all three together, so I will tend to compare the price differently.

Cause people who want to subscribe to YES Broadband will not even need the 018 voice and the phone so they will tend to compare the price based on the Mobile Broadband with YES Broadband.

So for people who want to subscribe for voice+data, they will compare differently.

To be honest, YES is good for voice+data but not for broadband judging from their charging rate that can really cut throat.

Note that Maxis 3G broadband despite after FUP, you can still use with throttled speed but YES will continue cutting your throat.
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i agree on you. anyway it still depands on the speed :/ we shall see those customer feedback on 1 year time smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:26 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 19 2010, 12:14 AM)
I will say it will be better than the rest.

Reason: Heavy users won't subscribe to it.

That's why I say they are using the right strategy to phase out those heavy users.

I also will not subscribe to its broadband service. Hahaha ... I need one drama per night, with that rate, I can buy original DVD from Speedy Video.

The Voice+Data maybe depends on their charging rate for OFF-NET calls and of course on their phone type.
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Basically, i can tell u that, they got one rate 9 sen, so u call to their YES user 9 cents, Other Opeartors 9 cents. Even u are using Yes ID, and u are overseas, u use that to call to malaysia operators, 9 cents as well.. just that u from msia, u call to overseas will be charged as IDD rate.


Added on November 19, 2010, 12:29 am
QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 19 2010, 12:26 AM)
Basically, i can tell u that, they got one rate 9 sen, so u call to their YES user 9 cents, Other Opeartors 9 cents. Even u are using Yes ID, and u are overseas, u use that to call to malaysia operators, 9 cents as well.. just that u from msia, u call to overseas will be charged as IDD rate.
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if i am not mistaken, they are 60 secs block charge

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post Nov 19 2010, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 19 2010, 12:30 AM)
and u are overseas, u use that to call to malaysia operators, 9 cents as well.

sure or not?
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Sure. rclxms.gif
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 19 2010, 12:42 AM)
Works like Skype? Call US line from your PC anywhere around the world, at US rate. Makes sense. Buy the account and give your children studying overseas to make VoIP calls to Malaysia line at 9sen/min rates. rclxms.gif
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Skype Cost much more. Yes is much more cheaper smile.gif

Yea, it's something like skype, the different is Skype only can deal with PC to PC.

and the best is Yes can do PC to phone, PC to PC


Added on November 19, 2010, 12:44 am
QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 19 2010, 12:40 AM)
then its the "cheapest" voice fr overseas back to malaysia celcos thumbup.gif
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from the time being, they are cheapest smile.gif
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post Nov 19 2010, 12:52 AM

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QUOTE(Forum-Modding Newb @ Nov 19 2010, 12:45 AM)
How about phone to PC? Like I call my friend in another country with a Yes (crap) phone, his PC ring.
I checked on Wimax roaming, it seems Japan and US got roaming agreements.... if YTL can join their roaming, wow you can use your Yes account in US (Clearwire) and Japan (UQ Communications), and can theoretically call users of the two networks from Malaysia to US/Japan at 9sen/min? GG to IDD rates! rclxm9.gif
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why not use internet to call? instead of the crap phone? laugh.gif

yea. Phone to PC, Pc to PC, Phone to Phone, Pc to Phone

*Phone(Yes Phone ONLY)

Join the launch tomoro smile.gif

Trust me, there are alot of things happen there
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post Nov 19 2010, 08:55 AM

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QUOTE(LightningFist @ Nov 19 2010, 03:11 AM)
No, No, and No!

I cannot believe someone here actually called this "cheaper than other ISPs". You must live in a fantasy world.

If 3Mb = RM0.09 that is terrible (Costs in excess of 7000 ringgit for 30 GB).

If 3MB = RM0.09 it is still very expensive (costs hundreds for 30GB) even for 6GB.

And don't bother saying Maxis etc can still be used at throttled speed without extra charges. Throttled speed is ~2kBps (bandwidth ~16kBps) so it is virtually zero and inaccessible.

This country's internet services for public consumers sucks, period.
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as i mention, use more pay more, use less pay less =/

and yes, this is a prepaid method, i dun think it's suitable for hardcore internet surfer

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post Nov 19 2010, 08:57 AM

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post Nov 19 2010, 09:09 AM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 19 2010, 09:06 AM)
Thanks for the information. Wah you wake up so early? hahahaha ...

Yea, you are right on the Google Talk. I believe it's capable but didn't turn it on because it will contradict to the voice operator which will be selling their devices.

How about SKYPE? Those app can be installed on smartphone to do voice call. If my smartphone has a SKYPE and someone else has SKYPE on PC. I can talk for free (paying data)


Added on November 19, 2010, 9:07 am
Means RM200 bucks lo
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they goin to roll out the applications to smartphone soon.


Added on November 19, 2010, 9:11 am
QUOTE(CalvinCLK @ Nov 19 2010, 09:09 AM)
Should be 16 x 30 = 480.
After rebate 30%, 480 * 0.7 = RM336.

Not sure if they have maximum cap on the bill amount or not. Eg. more than certain amount, you dun need to pay anymore...
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Bro, whenever usage exceed 4 GB, the rate will become rm0.021

so Rm0.021x 1024 x 16= Rm 344.064

It's a Prepaid Method, As long as u got credit left, u can browse whatever u want.

And No, they dun have the cap to give u unlimited download.

For me, i think this is the best way to control bandwidth

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post Nov 19 2010, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(CalvinCLK @ Nov 19 2010, 09:14 AM)
Sorry. Forgotten that they charge per MB.. not used to this ler.. 1GB = 1024MB..
Still expensive.. Say No dy..
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yea. it's for hardcore user then no..

unless u are rich enough drool.gif

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