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totally_skint
post Nov 6 2010, 12:07 PM

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YES(YTL) is suppose to be Pay-As-You-Go, so there shouldn't be any cap on downloads.
They will probably charge by per megabyte.
You use more, you pay more.

I don't like the no-sim concept though.
It would be too easy to steal account and hijack.

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post Nov 7 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 7 2010, 10:34 AM)
However, I feel people who tend to torrent and p2p at home, instead of going to movie theatre to pay for RM12 for a movie will be willing to pay for the service.
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It's not the money, it's the content we can't get or get easily in a timely manner.
Many films are not screened locally.
Same for tv or is several seasons late.
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post Nov 7 2010, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserreich @ Nov 7 2010, 12:56 PM)
What if their pay-as-you go model charges as high as existing competitors?

i.e. the data usage for 5GB is Rm100, for example.

At any rate, wireless broadband is not meant to be unlimited. To get unlimited data, fixed line is the way to go.
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Pay-As-You-Go (PayGo from now on - less typing smile.gif ) means F-L-E-X-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y.
So what if you don't use much one month and a lot the next?
With existing ISPs, you pay the same even if you don't go online the whole month and throttled if you go over your allocation.

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post Nov 8 2010, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 8 2010, 04:01 PM)
u are half right. they do have internet service but it means the amount u paid is for internet service or phone service. so it's either one.

u can choose to make phone calls or choose to spend it on internet service.

or both

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I'm guessing that YES will charge for data by volume, phone calls by time (different mobile and fixed line charges) and SMS by message.

You all do realise that YES stands to make money terminating calls to your YES 018 numbers too (paid by originating telcos) ?

Also maybe free or one time per call charge between YES subscribers.
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post Nov 8 2010, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Nov 8 2010, 07:28 PM)
Do remember that a real 4G network is completely IP based meaning everything travels with data.

Observing how modern day SIP based voip providers operate, on-net calls can be totally unlimited with just a small monthly fixed fee.
Off-net calls can also be unlimited to fixed/mobile networks if pricing structure is right at RM150-200.
When a network is totally IP-based even an overseas call can be [b]FREE[/b]

Just like how you make a Skype call from Malaysia to a friend who might be in the Himalayas who happen to have a good internet connection as well.
Since both uses the same soft app, Skype, your calls will be FREE.

The internet has no boundaries.It'll only get better with speed.

But then we are still operating the per-minute calls over here with our ageing networks.
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But with Skype on-net calls while free, you still pay your ISP for the bandwidth.
With YES, your ISP is now also your telco
That's why I suggested that YES might simply give free calls between YES subscribers or for a simple one time connection charge (say 10 sen untimed)

And since YES promos suggest a prepaid model (refer "no expiry" claims) they won't be charging monthly calls packages.
However in future they might offer different call packages ala current celco practice.
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post Nov 9 2010, 10:20 PM

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QUOTE(chron3z @ Nov 9 2010, 09:29 PM)
should i sign up for a 018 number?
cause it asked for my ic
not sure if it's okay to do so since (call me one of them frogs under the coconut shell but) i've never heard of ytl before
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YTL is Malaysia's largest listed non-GLC company.

The Star Biz
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post Nov 13 2010, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(Slekerz @ Nov 13 2010, 01:32 AM)
I clueless about their internet package and will wait after official launch to see how good their service.whistling.gif
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Everyone's clueless too. Just have to wait till next Friday.
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post Nov 16 2010, 09:52 PM

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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Nov 16 2010, 09:08 AM)
wow, how many money  blush.gif

registered edi... lets c wat happen this friday
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This is the longest week. sigh...
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post Nov 17 2010, 09:43 PM

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How does the call and sms charges compare to others?

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post Nov 18 2010, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(rifles @ Nov 18 2010, 12:32 PM)
I'm also using 4M at rm140 per month.Plan to take YES for office usage because too many blocked website.But have to wait for teh confirmation about the auto subscription .The device itself already almost Rm100.
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Any idea how much the phone costs?
And can you tether the phone to your laptop?
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post Nov 18 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(rifles @ Nov 18 2010, 04:56 PM)
The phone itself is about RM599.You can use the phone as modem for your laptop.
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Hope they come out with cheaper "dumb" phone.
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(tanhks @ Nov 18 2010, 09:09 PM)
If i want to use a hardware VPN firewall....than how...?
The phone does not has a built-in hardware firewall and it is connect to laptop by USB cable.
but the hardware VPN firewall only has a WAN port and four LAN port.

(click spoiler below to view picture of the hardware VPN firewall)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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Get the YES Zoom. It should have a LAN port.
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post Nov 18 2010, 10:36 PM

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So much for the promise of one simple plan.
9 sen/3Mb, then use xx amount get $$ rebate.
Use more get more rebate.
Why not just REALLY, REALLY charge everyone one true flat rate?

The devils in the details (or fine print).


Added on November 18, 2010, 10:40 pm
QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 18 2010, 10:34 PM)
it's still depand ur usage :/ if u use less pay less, use more pay more
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Actually, use less pay less and use more pay more unless you use even more then pay less, use even more pay less still.
On top of that monthly must use at least RM30.
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 18 2010, 10:42 PM)
rm 30 still affordable :/ it's the lowest entry cost
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But it's no longer Pay-As-You-Go anymore is it?
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(p4n6 @ Nov 18 2010, 11:14 PM)
It encourages to use more but at the same time use less also okay. I think the idea is not bad after all.

However I do have suspicion on:

1. If I don't retain usage of RM30 per month, what will happen?
2. In order to get this month rebate on next month, is that means the next month also need to retain usage of RM30 as well or it can be 0?
3. If this month rebate is RM50 and my next month usage is RM30, is that means I can have free credit of RM20 or it will be zeroed?
4. If there is credit in my account, let say RM10 and I decide not to use, is that means I will lose the RM10 and cannot cash it?
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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 18 2010, 11:18 PM)
1. they will auto credit rm 30 on ur credit limit. Just to keep ur ID active
2. their min usage for every month is rm30
3. take a example, u got FREE rebate rm 50, and u left Rm30 Credit, if this current month, u nvr use their data, they will minus the rm 30 from ur rm 50 rebate, and they will bought forward ur rm 20 rebate to ur next month, and ur rm 30 credit to ur next month. They minus the Rebate first then ur Credit.
4. u will lose it,  and ur next month account limit will become 0.
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So much for simplicity. doh.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 18 2010, 11:32 PM)
the best way is go for tmr launch :/
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Only if you live in KL.

Please, someone report for us out-of-towners
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post Nov 19 2010, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(HeartMePlz @ Nov 18 2010, 11:49 PM)
yea. they will still charge u RM60. but remember, u dun have any more credit to credit..if they really provide good service. i think u will be easily hit their min usage of Rm30
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But their website says RM30 usage per month meaning you must use up RM30?
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post Nov 19 2010, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(ks98 @ Nov 19 2010, 03:30 PM)
From all the info i got thus far.... looks like NO... you need to buy all the device urself, with RM50 activation fee some more...

So minimum start-up price will be, at minimum, RM99 (for the USB modem)+RM50 (Activation Fee) = RM149 (plus first month RM30, may be) And RM10 stem duty... whatever thing, government sure share some "profit"
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I think the USB dongle is free with the first RM100 starter credit.

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post Nov 19 2010, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Nov 19 2010, 04:01 PM)
arghhh~ they put the time to be 4PM just now, now they delayed another 2 hours to 6pm. kanasai.
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I take it you are at Lot 10 now?
Shake leg for two hours.
Post us some pictures.
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post Nov 19 2010, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Nov 19 2010, 05:00 PM)
One good thing abt the yes launch is tat now the 3 celcos and tm can giv us better deals cause we hav more choices biggrin.gif
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On the other hand the incumbents can look at YES's offering and think "Ha! No worries. Not competitive!" and then maintain their current pricing. hmm.gif

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