Intel have been producing Sandy Bridge samples in volume since Q1 2010, and have begun shipping thousands of Sandy Bridge CPU samples to its customers. Just posted some pic:
Due in part to the fact that Sandy Bridge processors require a new 6-series chipset, socket H1 and H2 won't be compatible with each other and in good old Intel's transition philosophy, you will need to swap out and upgrade your motherboard in order to make your new 32nm desktop CPU work.
@.@ gawd.. how many socket change is intel going to make la... I'm still on LGA775 and looking for an upgrade path... but it looks like going with Intel is a big risk as they'll probably change the socket before i can even go through 2 processor cycle..
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There is the enthusiast socket with LGA2011... quad channel memory... will expect 8 memory slots... You are looking a 4, 6 or 8 cores cpu/socket with HT for 8, 12, 16 threads.
The LGA1155 socket mainstream CPU will have integrated graphics.
This post has been edited by BeastX: Apr 22 2010, 12:00 PM
There is the enthusiast socket with LGA2011... quad channel memory... will expect 8 memory slots... You are looking a 4, 6 or 8 cores cpu/socket with HT for 8, 12, 16 threads.
The LGA1155 socket mainstream CPU will have integrated graphics.
They can change as many socket as they want, but I am gonna use my PC for at least 5 years.
If u are not into imaging/gaming/development. I cannot see a reason to upgrade PC. Even if u still need some gaming to burn some of ur time, u can go back to the classic arcade, they are just as good in game play.
Infact the only good new thing fancy me is the low power Fanless PC. Atom isnt that "fast enough" for everyday general use yet. I am still waiting for it to get faster.
This post has been edited by billytong: Apr 23 2010, 10:25 AM
They can change as many socket as they want, but I am gonna use my PC for at least 5 years.
If u are not into imaging/gaming/development. I cannot see a reason to upgrade PC. Even if u still need some gaming to burn some of ur time, u can go back to the classic arcade, they are just as good in game play.
Infact the only good new thing fancy me is the low power Fanless PC. Atom isnt that "fast enough" for everyday general use yet. I am still waiting for it to get faster.
nevermind bro.. the new celeron still got for good..
A Core i7 930 is the best for most gamers/ multimedia editors without breaking the bank. 980 wipes the floor with all other system and will remain that way for some time for the hard users.
By the time LGA 2011 hits the market in late 2011 or 2012, its time to change platform anyway. Quad memory channel, PCIE 3.0, 10 SATA ports, all the new improvement that is beneficial.
LGA 1366 is still here to stay for awhile (my only complain is current intel's I/O H only support 6 SATA, (thank goodness for Gigabyte additional SATA controller)
All my upgrades requires the change of processor, mobo and RAM. It's nothing new. I'm pretty sure the number of pins will bottleneck when there are too many cores.
Didnt have a chance using any xtra SATA controller, wonder what r u doing connecting so many HDD on ur system..
Nice for the new Chip but wont go for this gimmick really soon..demet!
With the size of the HDD these days + the hot swap ESata, USB HDD, it is hard to find a reason to run multiple HDD other than RAID. Lets not forget one need to buy bigger PSU/Casing to run many HDD, and then backup HDD is best to keep in bookselfs than running it on PC letting it wear and tear. I got 5 backup HDDs in my drawer now. but I am only have 1 running on each of my PCs
This post has been edited by billytong: Apr 23 2010, 06:01 PM
Well, most Intel new processor will usually require a new chipset to run. So, you probably still need to change the mobo even Intel keep using the old socket...
Well, most Intel new processor will usually require a new chipset to run. So, you probably still need to change the mobo even Intel keep using the old socket...
Well tbh there is an advantage of being in same socket, such as I can use back my old CPU until the new one drop its price, for me it makes no reason to pay the premium to intel when u can get the same product cheaper months later.
@.@ gawd.. how many socket change is intel going to make la... I'm still on LGA775 and looking for an upgrade path... but it looks like going with Intel is a big risk as they'll probably change the socket before i can even go through 2 processor cycle..
Intel has been doing that (LGA1366 and LGA1156) ever since integrating the memory controller into the processor. LGA775 still the longest socket around and as for the upgade path, the highest supported is Core 2 Extreme QX9770 which is still a pretty fast processor already (examples: Core 2 Extreme QX9770 vs Phenom II X4 965 and Core 2 Extreme QX9770 vs Core i5 750) unless Intel decides to releases the six core monstrous Dunnington (from server size).
QUOTE(jinaun @ Apr 22 2010, 09:00 AM)
IIRC intel changes sockets for every new generations of processor uarch.. save for process shrink
Except for LGA775 generation (Prescott, Cedar Mill, Presler, Conroe, Allendale, Kentsfield, Wolfdale and Yorkfield).
They can change as many socket as they want, but I am gonna use my PC for at least 5 years.
If u are not into imaging/gaming/development. I cannot see a reason to upgrade PC. Even if u still need some gaming to burn some of ur time, u can go back to the classic arcade, they are just as good in game play.
Infact the only good new thing fancy me is the low power Fanless PC. Atom isnt that "fast enough" for everyday general use yet. I am still waiting for it to get faster.
Atom no fast for "general usage"? I don't think that would be too "general" unless you are referring to something specific task? Normal usage such as web browsing, word processing, spreadsheets, flash content, multimedia, etc.. runs fine with the Atom. The only task that the Atom will have some issues would be 1080p videos (which would be solved by using NVIDIA ION's platform) and games (possibly the only thing that Atom doesn't fare that well, even with NVIDIA's ION GeForce 9300/9400 integrated solution).
QUOTE(HMMaster @ Apr 24 2010, 11:49 AM)
Well, most Intel new processor will usually require a new chipset to run. So, you probably still need to change the mobo even Intel keep using the old socket...
Yups, but ocassionaly that really depends on the board design (especially the VRM) and manufacturer's BIOS support. For example: fancy this ASRock ConRoe865PE which is using ancient Intel 865PE chipset (from Socket-478 generation) and supports Core 2 Duo processors.
QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 24 2010, 06:36 PM)
Well tbh there is an advantage of being in same socket, such as I can use back my old CPU until the new one drop its price, for me it makes no reason to pay the premium to intel when u can get the same product cheaper months later.
Do note that AM2 and AM2+ processors cannot be used on AM3 socket. However older LGA775 processors can be used on newer motherboards (provided that the manufacturer has BIOS support, example: ASRock P45XE).
Intel has been doing that (LGA1366 and LGA1156) ever since integrating the memory controller into the processor. LGA775 still the longest socket around and as for the upgade path, the highest supported is Core 2 Extreme QX9770 which is still a pretty fast processor already (examples: Core 2 Extreme QX9770 vs Phenom II X4 965 and Core 2 Extreme QX9770 vs Core i5 750) unless Intel decides to releases the six core monstrous Dunnington (from server size).
Except for LGA775 generation (Prescott, Cedar Mill, Presler, Conroe, Allendale, Kentsfield, Wolfdale and Yorkfield).
Atom no fast for "general usage"? I don't think that would be too "general" unless you are referring to something specific task? Normal usage such as web browsing, word processing, spreadsheets, flash content, multimedia, etc.. runs fine with the Atom. The only task that the Atom will have some issues would be 1080p videos (which would be solved by using NVIDIA ION's platform) and games (possibly the only thing that Atom doesn't fare that well, even with NVIDIA's ION GeForce 9300/9400 integrated solution).
Yups, but ocassionaly that really depends on the board design (especially the VRM) and manufacturer's BIOS support. For example: fancy this ASRock ConRoe865PE which is using ancient Intel 865PE chipset (from Socket-478 generation) and supports Core 2 Duo processors.
Do note that AM2 and AM2+ processors cannot be used on AM3 socket. However older LGA775 processors can be used on newer motherboards (provided that the manufacturer has BIOS support, example: ASRock P45XE).
Please show me a Intel LGA775 processor working on a Intel Socket 1156. You said can work on newer motherboards.
I bet this will be taken off soon by the moderator. Prove me wrong by keeping the post.
This post has been edited by Piros: Apr 28 2010, 11:54 AM
LoL obviously non of the LGA775 processor will works on LGA1156..didnt heard any backward compatible on these current socket neither support the memory controller by the LGA775 itself..HuhU
This post has been edited by Hiruka: Apr 28 2010, 12:33 PM
Please show me a Intel LGA775 processor working on a Intel Socket 1156. You said can work on newer motherboards.
You must be too dumb to check the post that I've replied to, as well as examine my replies properly. Tell me if there is any Socket-754, Socket-939 and Socket AM2/AM2+ processor that can be used on newer AM3 motherboards? All that while Intel is still using LGA775, and even those older LGA775 Pentium4 can be used on newer LGA775 motherboards (including those with DDR3 memory support).
QUOTE(Piros @ Apr 28 2010, 11:52 AM)
I bet this will be taken off soon by the moderator. Prove me wrong by keeping the post.
Most of your posts are "flame baits", telling others being "ignorant" which definitely will end up in the trash bin (after looking back into your posting history), even this post itself. As for the "ignorance" of people still buying Intel when AMD had the advantage then you should be aware that majority of normal PC buyers and corporate/business IT purchases usually bought branded PCs which are mostly "Intel inside". Many of them don't even know what's inside. Why do you think AMD wanted the Dell account? Your statement "the i series from Intel are meant for workstations not desktop" is obviously one big fat lie itself..
QUOTE(Hiruka @ Apr 28 2010, 12:31 PM)
LoL obviously non of the LGA775 processor will works on LGA1156..didnt heard any backward compatible on these current socket neither support the memory controller by the LGA775 itself..HuhU
I was replying to raist86 about his LGA775 upgrade path and jinaun on socket changes with every processor microarchitecture, and its not about LGA775 being backward compatible with LGA1155 or LGA1156. Very obviously Piros did not bother to read properly (I think the word ignorant is what best describes that).
This post has been edited by lex: Apr 28 2010, 02:32 PM
@.@ gawd.. how many socket change is intel going to make la... I'm still on LGA775 and looking for an upgrade path... but it looks like going with Intel is a big risk as they'll probably change the socket before i can even go through 2 processor cycle..
Maybe you could wait till Q 2011 and see. I'm another lga 775 user. Well, it's worth the wait. By that time, direct x 11 newer cards would be out and better 32nm proc would be available.
I believe we come to the point (except for gaming, rendering, etc.) where the technology is overkill for normal usage. Seeing ppl buying i5 for movieing and normal surfing. Lots of money.
Maybe you could wait till Q 2011 and see. I'm another lga 775 user. Well, it's worth the wait. By that time, direct x 11 newer cards would be out and better 32nm proc would be available.
I believe we come to the point (except for gaming, rendering, etc.) where the technology is overkill for normal usage. Seeing ppl buying i5 for movieing and normal surfing. Lots of money.
i bought i5 is bcoz q9550 very expensive, and e8400 hard to find liao
I was replying to raist86 about his LGA775 upgrade path and jinaun on socket changes with every processor microarchitecture, and its not about LGA775 being backward compatible with LGA1155 or LGA1156. Very obviously Piros did not bother to read properly (I think the word ignorant is what best describes that)..
Yeah i just want to highlight him for the things that obviously wont happen..No further argue should take part nor provocation shud be made..
This post has been edited by Hiruka: Apr 28 2010, 02:39 PM
Do note that AM2 and AM2+ processors cannot be used on AM3 socket. However older LGA775 processors can be used on newer motherboards (provided that the manufacturer has BIOS support, example: ASRock P45XE).
Magnificent isnt it? I am on Pentium D 2.66GHz now, I mobo died(support up to 3.6GHz Pentium D only), got a new mobo, use back the DDR2, put back my old Pentium D, work like charm..... so are my graphic card, everything else.
And now my new limit is Core 2 Quad/Quad extreme, which is a huge performance jump from my Pentium D. Can I upgrade it now? no, CPU are known to last longer and less problem than mobo. May be 2years later the Core 2 Quad might only cost RM100-200. I'll let someone to bare the depreciation.
So the fact is socket change is never beneficial to customer only the manufacturer.
that's the reason why i bought celeron E3300 n g41 mobo last week.. it's nice though the youngest 45nm siblings.. now on 3.3ghz due to no proper cooling.. i bet can push more.. maybe 4ghz.. can get both with <rm350..
i bought i5 is bcoz q9550 very expensive, and e8400 hard to find liao
You can always buy a lesser quad and overclock which helps. Well, still we do follow recommendations eh. Everyone been giving good reviews about i5. Even mod lex uses it.
Nobody knows exactly how long 775 socket would stay but I think it won't be soon. Almost every low budget intel and some mid stream users still use 775 socket. Good thing their mobo and proc getting cheaper.
The only downside is ridiculous price of the rams.
This post has been edited by n3w: Apr 28 2010, 06:05 PM
Maybe you could wait till Q 2011 and see. I'm another lga 775 user. Well, it's worth the wait. By that time, direct x 11 newer cards would be out and better 32nm proc would be available.
I believe we come to the point (except for gaming, rendering, etc.) where the technology is overkill for normal usage. Seeing ppl buying i5 for movieing and normal surfing. Lots of money.
Some folks simply buy the best because they don't want to "feel" outdated, some worry about performance (and bottleneck), while some simply have lots of funds to spend on hardware.
QUOTE(geforce88 @ Apr 28 2010, 02:19 PM)
i bought i5 is bcoz q9550 very expensive, and e8400 hard to find liao
Could have taken any quad core plus a mild overclock (to 3.2GHz+), and matches some of the top quad core processors today. The fact the comparison above shows that both of those new quad cores (Core i5 750 and Phenom II X4 965) are yesteryear's 2007 top performance (QX9770) which is 3 to 4 years ago. Should last another few more years (IMHO at least another 6 years or more, looking at the line of quad core processors today )
QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 28 2010, 05:33 PM)
And now my new limit is Core 2 Quad/Quad extreme, which is a huge performance jump from my Pentium D. Can I upgrade it now? no, CPU are known to last longer and less problem than mobo. May be 2years later the Core 2 Quad might only cost RM100-200. I'll let someone to bare the depreciation.
You can get a Celeron or Pentium Dual Core nowadays for around RM200 or less, which are much faster than your Pentium D.
QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 28 2010, 05:33 PM)
So the fact is socket change is never beneficial to customer only the manufacturer.
Motherboard and processor manufacturers always have to change something (new chipset, new socket, new processor, new VRM, etc), otherwise cannot "cari makan". For example: make new processor but can use on older motherboards means they can't sell much of their new chipsets. Usually new processors would coincide with the launch a new chipset. Backward compatibility is always welcomed though new features such as better power management, new bus signalling, integration of memory controller, GPU integration and/or change in memory controller would sometimes bring about a new socket (like LGA1155). Of course they also have to bring some improvements and new stuff into the mix (e.g. USB 3.0, SATA 3.0, LightSpeed, AVX, etc). Right now the problem is that software needs to play catch up..
This post has been edited by lex: Apr 28 2010, 07:26 PM
You can get a Celeron or Pentium Dual Core nowadays for around RM200 or less, which are much faster than your Pentium D.
Motherboard and processor manufacturers always have to change something (new chipset, new socket, new processor, new VRM, etc), otherwise cannot "cari makan". For example: make new processor but can use on older motherboards means they can't sell much of their new chipsets. Usually new processors would coincide with the launch a new chipset. Backward compatibility is always welcomed though new features such as better power management, new bus signalling, integration of memory controller, GPU integration and/or change in memory controller would sometimes bring about a new socket (like LGA1155). Of course they also have to bring some improvements and new stuff into the mix (e.g. USB 3.0, SATA 3.0, LightSpeed, AVX, etc). Right now the problem is that software needs to play catch up..
At first thanks for the recommendation of the Celeron and Pentium processor. I am very well aware that they are faster than my silly Pentium D. But no, I am more happily to take Core 2 Quad for <RM200 2 years later. my pentium D is fast enough to my everyday job it is idle mostly due to I am only using web surfing, light applications.
IMO, the practicality of new improvement is really depends on individual. Unlike olden days where every gen of CPU actually make ur daily task faster. Right now if u are not dealing with Multimedia Editing, VideoGames even a 5 years old PC can still do a decent job without any lagging.
for example Sata 3.0 is overrated, HDD are not gonna be using all that bandwidth, they are not fast enough for even Sata 2. USB3.0? I dont often use my external HDD. It is only the external HDD that is bottleneck by the USB transfer speed.
I think my only concern is the reliability of a motherboard. Because if a old motherboard is down, every old standard/socket devices you have become unusable with any new motherboard. (I got 3 AGP gfx cards in my drawer now after 4 dead motherboards ) Thankfully the new motherboard are coming with good quality component, solid cap/mosfet etc. or whatever gimmicks things they are selling now, at least they are more reliable than the older generations.
Yes, software need to catch up, so until the software can come up something useful like 99% reliable voice recognition(the old keyboard/mouse combo need to be gone), language translator or a computer that think for u. (AI), that I need a powerful CPU to do it. Then may be I might be paying RM1000+ for a CPU. Right now I think there is no way I will pay> RM250 for a CPU, the same could say for GPU, HDD, optical drives etc.
according to fudzilla i read a post a few days ago , they said that the quad core 32 nm sandybridge will be 65W tdp at best which is really cool i mean suppose if ita 2.8ghz quad core on a 65w beating i7 930/i7 860 due to new architecture will be awesome.
I really want to upgrade to i7 930 from my Q9400 to try some multi gpu setups but problem is 130w is too high for a proc also i am scared for the fact that if i upgrade now it will be obsolete by april next yr as 65w tdp quad proc will give better performance.
any news on how many pcie lanes will be supported by x68/p67 chips hopefully x8/x8/x8 minimum
i am also holding out on my laptop upgrade
This post has been edited by Riddhy: Apr 28 2010, 09:48 PM
for example Sata 3.0 is overrated, HDD are not gonna be using all that bandwidth, they are not fast enough for even Sata 2. USB3.0? I dont often use my external HDD. It is only the external HDD that is bottleneck by the USB transfer speed.
SATA 3.0 is more useful for SSDs since they are bottlenecked by SATA 2.0 speeds.
QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 28 2010, 08:47 PM)
I think my only concern is the reliability of a motherboard. Because if a old motherboard is down, every old standard/socket devices you have become unusable with any new motherboard. (I got 3 AGP gfx cards in my drawer now after 4 dead motherboards ) Thankfully the new motherboard are coming with good quality component, solid cap/mosfet etc. or whatever gimmicks things they are selling now, at least they are more reliable than the older generations.
I've never had motherboard failures before though. Everyone of them (even from Pentium II generation) lasted until today. Thus I rarely change motherboards and processors, though just sold off my Pentium D just recently (refer to my siggy, can run at 4GHz+ easily).
SATA 3.0 is more useful for SSDs since they are bottlenecked by SATA 2.0 speeds.
I've never had motherboard failures before though. Everyone of them (even from Pentium II generation) lasted until today. Thus I rarely change motherboards and processors, though just sold off my Pentium D just recently (refer to my siggy, can run at 4GHz+ easily).
I dont think I would bother paying the huge premium for SSD Besides, my HDD is idle 90% of the time, so the upgrade to SSD wont make any diff.
according to fudzilla i read a post a few days ago , they said that the quad core 32 nm sandybridge will be 65W tdp at best which is really cool i mean suppose if ita 2.8ghz quad core on a 65w beating i7 930/i7 860 due to new architecture will be awesome.
I really want to upgrade to i7 930 from my Q9400 to try some multi gpu setups but problem is 130w is too high for a proc also i am scared for the fact that if i upgrade now it will be obsolete by april next yr as 65w tdp quad proc will give better performance.
any news on how many pcie lanes will be supported by x68/p67 chips hopefully x8/x8/x8 minimum i am also holding out on my laptop upgrade
Well worth the wait.
Check here and here. The quaddies have better turbo boost functions and lower TDP. Don't bother with the 6 cores and 8 cores. Really not practical with us average users.
Even the laptop proc seems promising in providing better 1080p playback.
i'll try to stay with quad.. coz sufficient edy.. but if system for more cores priced cheaper.. can consider then..
Looking at the task manager, most of my cores are hardly fully utilized even in majority of games unless running some synthethic benchmarks to stress them out. Quad core would be more than sufficient nowadays as well as future usage.. For normal usage such as word processing, internet browsing, audio/video playback, simple flash games, etc.. a quad core is a bit of overkill..
This post has been edited by lex: Apr 30 2010, 11:41 AM
Looking at the task manager, most of my cores are hardly fully utilized even in majority of games unless running some synthethic benchmarks to stress them out. Quad core would be more than sufficient nowadays as well as future usage.. For normal usage such as word processing, internet browsing, audio/video playback, simple flash games, etc.. a quad core is a bit of overkill..
yup.. i like to open alot of things.. i noticed in dual cores cpu a little bit slow on the process.. on quad it's more smooth.. switching between program make it faster to act.. though it's mostly idle.. but really need that 'critical move'.. can't bear the cost of waiting..
Intel Sandy Bridge processors rumored to be named Core i3/i5/i7-2000 series
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According to the fresh rumor, Intel's upcoming 32nm chips will keep the Core brand and will still be divided in the i3, i5 and i7 families but the model number will be 'updated' to the 2000 range. For example, there could be a Core i3-2300, a Core i5-2500, and a Core i7-2800. Please note that these names are supposed to be of LGA 1155 parts although the higher-end LGA 13xx+ CPUs should be in-line with them. Expect Intel to be mum on these rumors, at least until Q4.
Intel’s Next Generation CPUs Leaked These specs are unconfirmed by Intel, so for now they cannot be assumed as completely accurate. Expect to see these released sometime in 2011.
All of them officially support DDR3-1333 (unfortunately). Higher than that consider overclocking
what i mean is sandy bridge still stuck at DDR3-1333 just as most bloomfield still stuck at DDR3-1066.
Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?
Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.
Correct me if wrong.
With Sandy Bridge being introduced, PCI will going to be obsolete too.
huh... higher ram is consider overclocking?? then if i slot in ddr3-1600 ram is consider overclocking?? i thought the MB manufacture will provide some headroom to support higher speed RAM up to ddr3-2000 or more
Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?
Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.
Correct me if wrong.
That one have to tweak a bit. If it has XMP ( Extreme Memory Profile) then just select it from the BIOS and the RAM goes all the way up to the level it is supposed to run at.
hmm... i never knew that.... but i always follow the MB ram support list so i have never been trouble by such thing b4 and so i thought is something like plug and play
is there any news on 8 core desktop proc?? xeon (x7560, x7550, L7555) already have few proc run on 8 core 16 thread....== sigh even the corei7 970 not yet lunch...
Since there are RAM supporting DDR3-1600 or more, u will need to set the multiplier or clock to achieve higher performance. isn't that overclocking?
Why not u try putting a DDR3-1600 into an i5 rig, set bios to auto-configure or default, see what speed your RAM will be running. I've never tweak an 1366 or 1156 before, but i think it'll go for 1333MHz. Anything faster is out of spec.
Correct me if wrong.
QUOTE(ronaldlee007 @ Jul 16 2010, 12:28 AM)
I thought the DDR3-1600 will run at 1600 automatically..
QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 16 2010, 01:55 AM)
hmm... i never knew that.... but i always follow the MB ram support list so i have never been trouble by such thing b4 and so i thought is something like plug and play
it's all based on the SPD. EAch SPD set has 3 speed rating programmed into it.
e.g. a DDR3-1600 module has 3 speed rating: 1600, 1333, and 1066. But the chipset is only qualified at 1333. So, if u put in a DDR3-1600 module, the 1333 mobo will auto-select the 2nd speed rating (1333).
as jeopardise mentioned earlier, any speed higher than the official qualified speed is considered overclocking.
remember: each chipset has a maximum qualified speed (jeopardise stated up there). Bloomfiled at 1066. Sandy Bridge at 1333. It's a normal progression.
but however, DRAM speed will always defined higher. Again, it must be qualified against the chipset maker (this is called validation).
This post has been edited by cybpsych: Jul 16 2010, 08:35 PM
However based on Wiki, Sandy Bridge memory controller may support DDR3-1600
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# Integrated Memory Controller with maximum 25.6 GB/s bandwidth, supports DDR3-1600 dual channel RAM.
Until the new architecture being launched, things may change.
QUOTE(yinchet @ Jul 20 2010, 10:45 PM)
is there any news on 8 core desktop proc?? xeon (x7560, x7550, L7555) already have few proc run on 8 core 16 thread....== sigh even the corei7 970 not yet lunch...
What u mean? u eat core i7-970 for lunch?
This post has been edited by jeopardise: Jul 20 2010, 10:33 PM
Intel to limit Sandy Bridge overclocking? At least according to leaked slides by Lars-Göran Nilsson
July 23, 2010
IF WE'RE TO believe what is meant to be Intel presentation slides of its upcoming Sandy Bridge processors that were embedded in a video posted on YouTube by HKEPC, it looks like Intel's LGA-1155 processors will have very limited overclocking potential. The reason for this is because Intel decided to "help" with the cost cutting by implementing a clock generator built into the chipset, rather than relying on an additional chip on the motherboard.
However, by doing so, Sandy Bridge processors on the LGA-1155 platform won't be easily overclocked as the way Intel implemented the clock generator means that all the busses are tied to it. The end result of this is that if you try to increase BCLK you'll also increase the speed of all other busses in the system, such as USB, SATA, PCI Express, DMI etc. Not exactly a great implementation, at least not for anyone that's interested in overclocking their system as Intel claims that you won't be able to push the bus by more than two to three percent.
Well, it is still pointless despite even after optimized. How would a daily internet surfing, office documents, youtube, watch movies, music can use up quad core? Even dual core is hard be full use. Unless u are dealing with gaming or multimedia it is pretty hard to make use of it.
Have u guys seen CSI? those computer screen with 3D interface really shine. We have this in window yet? not even window blinds come close..
I would buy a 6 core for that if Microsoft really make a window look like that. And we dont even have window that incorporate some AI to think for us. I need to open my web browser with my eye focus, can i do that? yes. Nintendo Wii have motion sensor that is quick enough without delays, so it is plotable to PC too. When I type a forum reply like this i shouldnt even type all my characters, my PC will read what I type and able to predict what I am going to say & type my words for me. When u put all this fancy features in, u can expect people start jumping the fastest processor they can buy again like when they did in Pentium 1/2 Era.
This post has been edited by billytong: Jul 22 2010, 08:15 PM
Intel to announce next-generation desktop platform at CES 2011
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As Intel plans to ship its next-generation 6-series chipsets (Cougar Point) in the week 42 of 2010 (October 2010), sources from motherboard makers believe Intel will officially announce its new Sugar Bay desktop platform at CES 2011 in the US, but the makers will start distributing their motherboards to the channel in December of 2010.
The initial launch of the Sugar Bay platform will include a Sandy Bridge-based processor, featuring a quad core CPU and integrated GPU; and will be paired with P67 chipset-based motherboards, targeting mainstream markets.
The new platform will support the latest Hyper-Threading technology and Intel Advanced Turbo Boost technology.
Intel, at a later time, will continue to launch more Sandy Bridge CPUs with unlocked multipliers and dual-cores.
Meanwhile, Intel will launch the Waimea Bay platform for high-end markets to replace the existing Tylersburg. Waimea Bay consists of a Sandy Bridge E-based processor and motherboard based on Intel's Patsburg chipset. Sandy Bridge E will feature an integrated memory controller and PCI Express connection , and will support memory up to DDR3 2666.
For the company's server line, Intel will launch the Bromolow platform, which also adopts Sandy Bridge processors.
Intel in the week 50 of 2010 will start shipping its Huron River platform for notebooks to partners and related products are expected to start appearing in the channel after mid-January 2011. In 2012, Intel will launch 22nm Ivy Bridge processors.
Intel declined the opportunity to respond to this report saying it cannot comment on unannounced products.
More Sandy Bridge performance numbers (+Rumoured Pricing)
Compared to Bulldozer there already is a nice collection of benchmark numbers for Sandy Bridge. For example those posted by Coolaler, a few BOINC benchmark results and a video with a mobile Sandy Bridge running Cinema 4D. The video analysis done in the Planet3DNow forums resulted in a deciphered score of 19641, confirmed by the measured run time (44 s). This means, the tested mobile Sandy Bridge processor was as fast as a Core i7-975 Extreme. Another comparison could be done by using a recently published Geekbench result of a 1.6 GHz Sandy Bridge CPU. So I compared it to a Core i7 also running at 1.6 GHz and made following table with overall results and a diagram showing the differences in detail.
So the average performance increase with those CPUs at the same base clock, but with different Turbo Boost implementations, is about 20%.
Price is lovely ... perhaps I will skip upgrading to Lynnfield LGA1156
Sandy Bridge Socket Pictures Leak
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In the usual fashion, JCornell over at XtremeSystems has posted a teaser image about Intel’s 32nm Sandy Bridge processors. In this case, the teaser comes in the form of socket shots of the 2011 pin 32nm Sandy Bridge chips. Looking at the pictures below we notice a few things…
First of all, these sockets are almost perfectly square which indicates a larger socket due to the increase from 1366 to 2011 pins. In addition to that, the socket now requires not one, but two retention latches to hold down the processor. This is a relatively unheard of thing simply because both AMD and Intel have both sufficed in the past with just one retention latch. The added latches and pins may cause issues for motherboard manufacturers in the future considering the fact that the likelihood of an inexperienced customer forgetting to use both latches or having a larger socket to possibly damage.
The reason for the increase in pins from 1366 to 2011 is fairly understandable considering the additional things that Intel has included over 1366. With the 1366 socket, there was only a triple channel memory bus, but with Sandy Bridge it will be quad channel meaning 4 sticks per channel. In addition to that, the 1366 socket did not have integrated graphics included while the 2011 socket will. Adding integrated graphics also requires quite a few more pins. And as if that wasn’t already enough Intel has also decided to follow the path of all their recent mainstream chipsets and to integrate the PCI-Express bus into the socket as well. Intel is continually increasing their consolidation of silicon into one socket which explains the increases in size and pins.
Just looking at these pictures gives a small indication of the behemoth that Sandy Bridge is expected to be. With the improved memory bandwidth and lowered manufacturing process, we can only expect Intel to give AMD a good run for their money once they launch Bulldozer.
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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 23 2010, 10:22 AM)
They can change as many socket as they want, but I am gonna use my PC for at least 5 years.
If u are not into imaging/gaming/development. I cannot see a reason to upgrade PC. Even if u still need some gaming to burn some of ur time, u can go back to the classic arcade, they are just as good in game play.
Infact the only good new thing fancy me is the low power Fanless PC. Atom isnt that "fast enough" for everyday general use yet. I am still waiting for it to get faster.
Atom is a piece of shit. Just use a low power Celeron 3300 with dual core...only 50W or so more (total system consumption) and performs 10x faster (maybe more!).
Atom is a piece of shit. Just use a low power Celeron 3300 with dual core...only 50W or so more (total system consumption) and performs 10x faster (maybe more!).
50w doesnt not allow you to run on Fanless PSU, fanless heatsink.
I'am looking for a ITX casing PC that is fast enough for basic use without fans may be even SSD, and stay below 100w & does not have huge Heatsink/heatpipe. Can celeron do that? No. So Celeron is a piece of shit for me for these kind of task.
Atom now may not be quick, but may be another 2-3years it will be quick enough for HD movies, basic web-surfing, flash games, word processing. I am looking forward on that thing.
Throw away gaming and photo editing out of window then u dont need all these cpu power.
On the other hand, I am looking forward on this Sandy bridge for my power usage.
Most likely I will get a PC next year which is base on Sandy bridge. I am skipping the core i series. Jumping from Pentium D
So I am guessing 6 cores is not going to be mainstream anytime soon. More like limited to extreme edition only....
Oh btw, I do not understand why Intel still brand Pentium as low end. Why cant they cut that silly brand name. Change it to i1. It is easier for consumer.
This post has been edited by billytong: Aug 11 2010, 07:05 PM
The Sandy Bridge desktop and mobile offering for Q1 is detailed in the table below and it contains no less than 19 CPUs - 12 quad-cores and 7 dual-cores, going from 2.3 GHz to 3.4 GHz. The chips listed come in LGA 1155 packaging and feature an integrated (dual channel) DDR3 memory controller as well as a graphics core.
The mobile models all include Hyper-Threading technology but this will apparently be absent on certain desktop chips (the Core i5-2500s and i5-2400). To keep things complicated Intel will have several flavors of the same model available, these being set apart with an end letter (or lack of a letter). For example K means an unlocked multiplier, S - lower frequencies and a lower TDP, while T - even lower clocks and TDP ratings. Pricing info hasn't been revealed as it's probably still in the works.
Sandy Bridge roadmap leaked, Intel plays with the numbers
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Details of Sandy Bridge CPUs have turned up on the web thanks to a leak by a German magazine.
Computer Base seems to have managed to get its paws on some details of some of the mobile Sandy Bridge processors. They are a little different to the roadmap slides which have been seen so far.
To throw a spanner in the works, Intel has made some changes to its model number scheme. Desktop CPUs will carry K, S, T as their suffixes. K is the same as the current K models, S is similar again to Intel's current S suffix CPUs. Models with a T on the end have a TDP of 35-45W, will a reduced clock speed. All Sandy Bridge processors will have a four digit model number, plus a potential suffix letter. We are glad they sorted that one out.
Looking at less esoteric details, it seems that Intel has almost completely dropped support for hyperthreading on the quad core models. Only the Core i7 LGA-1155 processors still support it.
The Core i7s are also the only models that will have 8MB of L3 cache. The Core i5's have 6MB of L3 cache. The Core i5 2930T has 3MB L3 cache.
The Core i3s become dual core processors with Hyperthreading, but no Turbo boost and a mere 3MB of L3 cache.
Only two K models will see the light of day. These are the Core i7 2600K and the Core i5 2500K.
There might be a Core i7 2600S with a default clock of 2.8GHz instead of 3.4GHz.
There are seven Core i5 models mentioned, but only three model numbers so we can't really tell what Intel is up too here.
The new mobile Sandy Bridge processors seem to have four Core i7 models and only two Core i5 models. There is an Extreme Edition here which uses the XM suffix and two quad core models that carries the QM suffix. Those listed alongside the XM model are all quad cores.
The 2920XM and the 2820QM come with 8MB of L3 cache while the 2720QM has 6MB. The Core i7 2620M is dual core with Hyper-Threading and 4MB of L3 cache. The Core i5 models are both dual core, but with 3MB of L3 cache.
The leaked slides are mostly for Intel's business platforms so it is fairly likely that we will see other models for other markets.
There are some other interesting stuff in the slides. The Sandy Bridge processors will use AES-NI with Advanced Vector Extensions support which can improve performance for some tasks.
It looks like Intel has been tinkering with its Turbo Boost feature if only because it is called version 2.0 which is supposed to manage clock speeds better.
Intel has been talking about a new IGP which is referred to as "GT2" on the roadmaps. Intel has been talking about sticking the IGP on die for a while.
Source: www.computerbase.de
Sandy Bridge Core i7 2600K name explained The second generation Core
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The name of the fastest Sandy Bridge is Core i7 2600K and we can give you an inside in the new naming scheme. First of all you will know that it’s a Sandy Bridge if you see a name with four digits starting with a number two.
Let’s dissect the Core i7 2600K moniker in segments and explain it. Intel Core is the brand of the CPU, i7 is the brand modifier that will help you distinct the features on a different cores. Number two in 2600 is the generation indicator meaning that this is the second generation of Intel’s Core architecture.
The 600 is the SKU numeric digits that will tell you which CPU you are getting and of course once again bigger numbers mean a better CPU.
The suffix K tells you that the CPU is unlocked and the other iterations such as suffix S will tell you that this is a CPU with performance optimised for lifestyle computing and T has Power Optimised Lifestyle whatever that would mean.
Once again, Intel has new chipset, new socket, new names and of course if you want the Sandy Bridge you will have to throw or sell your Nehalem Core i based system and get a new one with a socket that is only one pin shy of its predecessor
The mainstream quad-core market has been neglected ever since we got Lynnfield in 2009. Both the high end and low end markets saw a move to 32nm, but if you wanted a mainstream quad-core desktop processor the best you could get was a 45nm Lynnfield from Intel. Even quad-core Xeons got the 32nm treatment.
That's all going to change starting next year. This time it's the masses that get the upgrade first. While Nehalem launched with expensive motherboards and expensive processors, the next tock in Intel's architecture cadence is aimed right at the middle of the market. This time, the ultra high end users will have to wait - if you want affordable quad-core, if you want the successor to Lynnfield, Sandy Bridge is it.
Sandy Bridge is the next major architecture from Intel. What Intel likes to call a tock. The first tock was Conroe, then Nehalem and now SB. In between were the ticks - Penryn, Westmere and after SB we'll have Ivy Bridge, a 22nm shrink of Sandy.
Did I mention we have one?
While Intel is still a few weeks away from releasing Sandy Bridge performance numbers at IDF, we managed to spend some time with a very healthy sample and run it through a few of our tests to get a sneak peak at what's coming in Q1 2011.
Intel's Core 2011 Mobile Roadmap Revealed: Sandy Bridge Part II
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Late last week we pulled back the covers on Intel's next-generation Core architecture update: Sandy Bridge. Due out in Q1 2011, we learned a lot about Sandy Bridge's performance in our preview. Sandy Bridge will be the first high performance monolithic CPU/GPU from Intel. Its performance was generally noticeable better than the present generation of processors, both on the CPU and GPU side. If you haven't read the preview by now, I'd encourage you to do so.
One of the questions we got in response to the article was: what about Sandy Bridge for notebooks?
While Sandy Bridge is pretty significant for mainstream quad-core desktops, it's even more tailored to the notebook space. I've put together some spec and roadmap information for those of you who might be looking for a new notebook early next year.
A big unknown was the state of Sandy Bridge graphics. As I mentioned in the preview, there will be two types of integrated graphics enabled on Sandy Bridge parts: 1 core and 2 core parts. Intel refers to them as GT1 and GT2, respectively. The GT1 parts have 6 execution units (EUs), while the GT2 parts have 12.
Intel's P67, H67 and H61 chipsets will lack native PCI support Bridge chips to the rescue by Lars-Göran Nilsson
August 19, 2010
INTEL'S NEXT GENERATION of consumer desktop chipsets will lack native support for the good old PCI bus which dates back to 1993. However, most of the motherboards, if not all, that we saw at Computex back in June still featured PCI slots and it only just dawned how this can be. It turns out that the bridge chip makers are going to be making some bucks here by selling PCI Express to PCI bridge chips.
IDT issued a press release today proclaiming that MiTAC has chosen them as the supplier for their needs of PCI Express to PCI bridge chips for MiTAC's next generation of desktop PCs. IDT's chip is called the PEB383 and it supports 32-bit PCI devices operating at either 33 or 66MHz. It's available in either a QFP or QFN package at 14x14 or 10x10mm and is priced at $4.95 in quantities of 10,000.
This means that every motherboard with Intel's P67, H67 and H61 chipsets that has PCI slots will cost an extra $4.95 to make, well, at least as long as the motherboard maker uses the IDT PEB383. We had a look at some of the board pictures we'd taken at Computex and just about all of them either had an additional chip next to the PCI slots, or space for one. We know for sure that ITE and Nuvoton will be offering solutions, but we'd expect companies like Texas Instruments, PLX, Marvell and others to join the fray.
The picture above is of the ITE IT8890E which we spotted on one of the boards that was on display at Computex, but there are no details of this chip on ITE's website. Presumably products from companies like ITE and Nouvoton will be cheaper than some of the big brand competitors and there will likely be something of a price war in this market segment in the near future. As always it's likely that the lowest bidder will emerge victorious, but it will also come down to how well the various bridge solutions work.
One concern here is for those that are still using PCI cards that are sensitive to latency, something that can be an issue when working with audio related products. Considering the cost of high-end audio production equipment, this could prove to be an issue for certain niche markets, although it's unlikely to cause any real problems for the general consumer.
Intel's business and enterprise oriented B65, Q67 and Q65 chipsets will retain support for the PCI bus for the time being, so businesses won't have to worry about older add-on cards not being fully compatible. It almost seems like Intel is doing this to kill the PCI bus by force than out of necessity. We'd much rather see a swift death to the serial, parallel and floppy drive interfaces that are still hanging around despite being much older than the PCI bus.S|A
Oh btw, I do not understand why Intel still brand Pentium as low end. Why cant they cut that silly brand name. Change it to i1. It is easier for consumer.
You should know that Pentium is the LARGEST selling CPU brand even today. I think Intel will keep this legendary name and no way to kill it.
IDF 2010: Intel shows confirmed at 4.9 GHz overclocked Sandy Bridge PC with air cooling; problems with the reference clock-OC In the IDF back showed us a PC with an Intel processor from the next generation of Sandy Bridge, which was overclocked to 4.9 GHz. For this purpose, filed a cooler and a small voltage increase. However, Intel admitted that the reference clock can not overclock very far.
Xfastest have posted high quality pictures of Intel's Sandy Bridge bare die package, with the heatspreader removed. Pictures of the same silicon were previously published, but this time, Xfastest have revealed high quality pictures, as well as a shot of the notebook package.
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The above die is the quad core version, and is rumoured to have a die size of approximately 225 mm2. It continues Intel's recent tradition of rectangular dies, though Sandy Bridge is further elongated by the addition of an on-die IGP.
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The above shot is the die package of the notebook Sandy Bridge. Do note that the die is identical to the desktop version, and the apparent size seems different due to the much more compact notebook package.
What the ....? What's with those K, T and S? So many models to confuse those customer???? The Core i5 is still quite expensive, I believe this is 1,000 units price, RRP will be much higher.
1156 and 1366 probably will stopped late next year, if Intel rush to challenge AMD next release. Now lets pray AMD go slow with theirs LOL... (not going to happen)
Might be good if the PCI-E can be turned off to allow graphic card change on the fly, but the PCI-E power is another problem Anyway, those processor that support integrate graphic card might become much common, and that allow the graphic card to be turned off to save power, for those who run their heavy gaming rig 24/7 for BT, this may be a good news. (Hopefully it's for that purpose)
it is unnecessary now, because the latest Radeon 6800 series consume as little as 19w when idle. What I am saying is why would Intel disable the display capability on P67 chipset, when it could have been use as a backup display card, especially since it is onchip(CPU) now, it doesnt add any extra cost nor affecting the chipset overclockability.
Maybe they'll be using H6x chipset for that purpose? =.=" Intel is going to confuse more customer @.@" Thus, makes us much busier to answer those same topics over and over again in this forum... LOL
Was thinking of Bulldozer too but they suck on release date. I am not gonna wait for another year to get it. Sandy bridge is around the corner. I am going to stick with Intel. Besides there is a possibility that Sandy bridge mobo can support up to future Ivy Bridge CPU. Something like Nehelem & Westmare.
Was thinking of Bulldozer too but they suck on release date. I am not gonna wait for another year to get it. Sandy bridge is around the corner. I am going to stick with Intel. Besides there is a possibility that Sandy bridge mobo can support up to future Ivy Bridge CPU. Something like Nehelem & Westmare.
Bulldozer tentative release date is Q2 2011 (although according to a recent news report may indicate some select models may be released late Q4 2010). So anyway it is less then a year.
*ahem* don't out topic till AMD oooo.... xD" So any confirmed date that they'll release this mid-range socket? My friend just purchased Core i5 760 recently and got so upset cause it'll outdated next year and plan to get AMD cause of the unchanged socket for unforeseen future, should he keep it? 0.=;;
*ahem* don't out topic till AMD oooo.... xD" So any confirmed date that they'll release this mid-range socket? My friend just purchased Core i5 760 recently and got so upset cause it'll outdated next year and plan to get AMD cause of the unchanged socket for unforeseen future, should he keep it? 0.=;;
y so upset...?? normally ppl seldom go upgrade their proc... the ppl normally upgrade r ram, graphic card...
This post has been edited by yinchet: Nov 4 2010, 07:30 PM
Bulldozer tentative release date is Q2 2011 (although according to a recent news report may indicate some select models may be released late Q4 2010). So anyway it is less then a year.
When Sandy bridge out + high end mobo out, if AMD are still not out, then I will be Sandy bridge customer. It is not like bulldozer will be 25-30% faster than sandy bridge. infatc the benchmark not even out. Who ever out first get my money. It seems Sandy bridge is winning this time
2600k at usd 294 which means it will replace i7 950 at rm 899? will it be really 899 are you kidding ? that cheap? wow if 900 i will start saving now my budget is arnd 650 though
Gigabyte releases early sneak peek at Sandy Bridge compatible motherboard lineup
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Gigabyte has given the world a sneak preview at their upcoming motherboards for Intel’s Sandy Bridge platform. Like usual, Gigabyte has a widespread amount of boards for every budget.
Most of the boards will support will support USB 3.0 as well as SATA 6Gbps speed for lightning fast data transfers. There are even a couple of boards with black PCBs for those who may prefer that over Gigabyte’s familiar light blue color scheme. Gigabyte’s 3x USB Power design with On/Off Charging USB ports, DualBIOS technology, and Ultra Durable™ 3 design with 2x Copper PCB will also be implemented. Not much on launch dates or prices at this time, but there’s tons more photos after the break.
B65, Q67 and Q65 for Business Markets includes Native PCI Support P67, H67 for Consumer Market that lacks Native PCI Support (will include 3rd party PCI-PCIE Bridge Chip for PCI Support) No USB 3 SATA 6Gb (only 2 ports) Standard Base Clock of 133MHz ( USB, SATA, PCI, PCI-E, CPU cores, Uncore, and RAM reportedly tied to the base clock, meaning OC will be difficult)
Manufacturers
ASROCK > P67 EXTREME3
MSI > P67A-GD65
ASUS > P8P67D > P8P67D LX > P8P67D EVO > P8H67D-M > P8H67D-M PRO > P8P67D DELUXE
GIGABYTE > P67A-UD3R > P67A-UD3 > H67MA-UD2H
ECS > P67H2-A > P67H2-A2
INTEL > DP67BG
This post has been edited by jinaun: Nov 5 2010, 10:17 AM
Chipzilla will launch its next-generation Sandy Bridge chip line on January 5 at the Consumer Electronics Show.
According to an official statement from Intel, the launch will take place at Venetion Hotel in Las Vegas. In Sandy Bridge, the CPU and graphics processing unit (GPU) will be combined in one 32-nanometer piece of silicon. Intel, already the largest graphics chip supplier in the world, will be competing against Nvidia's higher-performance stand-alone GPUs and AMDs' integrated CPU-GPU products and higher-performance standalone GPUs.
When the launch is made, almost every manufacturer in the world will come up with Sandy Bridge. HP, Dell, Apple, Sony, Acer, Lenovo, and Toshiba have all announced that they are up for it. Although Intel had refused to name a launch date, the smart money was on it being at CES.
some motherboards are already showing sneak peek of their board. Waiting for green light from Intel. I hope 1155 platform will endure longer than 1156.
This post has been edited by jeopardise: Nov 5 2010, 10:54 AM
It wont be cheap, probably like what when Nehelem first launch & nehelem will be replacing the 775 market. Intel will send 775 platform to Museum.
But AMD's late launch on bulldozer is really pushing my patient limit. I dont think I can wait that long. I was planning to get Nehelem CPUs, but I held up a bit for sandy, I dont think I can push back further lol
This post has been edited by billytong: Nov 5 2010, 09:03 PM
Every brand make end user confuse , too much model , socket and etc. So , anyone have latest price list for the motherboard ? heard that it's not cheap , better start saving from now.
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QUOTE(mcchin @ Nov 18 2010, 09:50 AM)
i7 950 is still far from i7 980x and the latest leaked 995x
later when LGA2011 come out and become mainstream, hopefully the 1366 proc will be cheaper
the way i see it, the normal user, its better to skip a gen I totally skipped Core 2 series and now aiming for the Core i7
That won't happen. You can't buy high-end proc of previous gen at cheap price. They'll simply phase it out and put it out of production. Even higher end C2Q chips today not that cheap.
That won't happen. You can't buy high-end proc of previous gen at cheap price. They'll simply phase it out and put it out of production. Even higher end C2Q chips today not that cheap.
That's how to do business.
what i mean is 2nd hand types like the recent influx of Q9000 series of Core 2 extreme
for me the difference between i7 920 to even 965 is minimal at normal usage
the 970 980x is different cant underestimate the extra 2 core in the future
Latest Intel's Sandy Bridge desktop line-up detailed and priced
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According to a fresh report, the first half of 2011 will see Intel release no less than 18 desktop Sandy Bridge processors, the first wave of 10 chips being scheduled to hit in early January, just as CES 2011 draws to a close.
Listed below, the 18 upcoming LGA 1155 CPUs bear the Core i3, i5 i7 and Pentium brands, have integrated graphics, and will be paired up with Intel's 6 series chipsets (P67, H67 etc). In terms of frequencies, the new processors go from 2.2 GHz all the way up to 3.4 GHz (the Core i7-2600K reached 3.8 GHz in Turbo mode), while price wise, they move from $64 to $317. Get ready...
Nobody noticed this? Hope Z68 board can overclock via BCLK !
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If you do not want to choose not to lock frequency of the Sandy Bridge, Intel also offers other overclocking solution. Reported a new generation of fever platform, is based on Sandy Bridge E processor, chipset, code-named Patsburg, Intel will equip them with the external bus frequency generator, so that enthusiasts will be able to use the traditional method of regulation of DMI overclocking frequency.
Intel has also learned that plans Z68 chipset for LGA1155 processors, the chipset can be Sandy Bridge processor FSB overclocking, but for high-end market, currently scheduled for the first quarter of 2011.
This post has been edited by stasio: Nov 26 2010, 06:02 PM
Cheapest 2400 will be at RM 560 and 2600K will be price at RM 999 So need to wait for benchmark to judge the price vs performance ratios
Added on November 26, 2010, 11:36 pmStill the main part to concern is the price of the motherboard. It wouldn't be cheap though , processor price is fix but motherboard price will be higher
This post has been edited by Maxieos: Nov 26 2010, 11:36 PM
i5 2500K should be RM7XX. This is the one that should be interesting. Minus the hyper treading from i7 2600K + minus 100Mhz only but u get it minus RM300.
Sandy 4 cores with K gonna give those 1366 socket 4 core i7 a really hard time.
AMD should start cutting price already, their Phenom X4 BE selling is starting to get ridiculous.
lol after sandy bridge socket 1155,there'll be socket 1356 released and socket 2011.. then maybe Q4 2011 or Q1 2012, ivy bridge will released with 22nm technology and 8cores by default,most probably using ddr4.. double the performance o.O
I am more interested in the old platform price such as 775, 1156, AM3. if Sandy is about 5-10% faster than Nehelem clock for clock. @ 3.3GHz @ RM7xx. It is really making all old platform unattractive. Even the i5 2300 @ 2.8GHz selling @ RM4xx could have out perform i5 760, AMD 965 BE.
well the bridges does segregates the chips into multiple groups with more OC capability on the pricier ones whereas 1156 chips have almost equal opportunity to OC
duno how do u define the 10% difference. RM100 of RM1000 is a lot at least for me.
if rm100 is alot for u then someone shld feel more pain if someone is buying sandy bridge , he gonna fork out 1k+ for new platform for just a "rm100" improvement duh , 1 year life 1156 change to 1155 with 10% improvement , ouchhh
This post has been edited by Irishcoffee: Dec 13 2010, 08:19 PM
x47-48 multiplier is the maximum for i5-2500K, the Retail have the same problem as the ES that they´re limited to a frequency and won´t do more as this limit. The limit is on every CPU different....
but here 4.7GHz air cooled...
Anand said "However, Intel will allow overclocking through modifying the unlocked clock multiplier of up to 57 times the speed of base clock, which will be available in K-edition processors."
if rm100 is alot for u then someone shld feel more pain if someone is buying sandy bridge , he gonna fork out 1k+ for new platform for just a "rm100" improvement duh , 1 year life 1156 change to 1155 with 10% improvement , ouchhh
But for people who haven't upgraded (dual core/478/775). Especially those who wants crossfire or SLI ready. It's worth it for them. Pay 10% more for 10% improvement. Why not?
Now we just need lower price motherboards to drive the price down. It will take some time though.
This post has been edited by TristanX: Dec 14 2010, 02:54 AM
Wow, Core i5 2500K is going to be sold like hot hot cake
I am getting the 2500K, even with the hot whether like ours it should hit 4.3GHz on air no sweat. 4.3GHz on Sandy is really really fast. Good enough for the Console emulators like pcsx2. hehe
Right now the more interesting part is how would AMD respond on this Sandy bridge pressure. With the performance difference like this their 965 BE Selling @ RM200 cheaper are starting to look less attractive.
This post has been edited by billytong: Dec 15 2010, 12:49 PM
It'd be nice having a i5 2400 since it's 3.1Ghz for non overclocker . , too bad the motherboard price will be at least RM 450 for the cheapest model.Better board will cost more than RM500. Just wait till the board price drop below RM 400
Can you kindly name the model of motherboard having vga/dvi and pci slot ? It'd be nice having a i5 2400 since it's 3.1Ghz for non overclocker . , too bad the motherboard price will be at least RM 450 for the cheapest model.Better board will cost more than RM500. Just wait till the board price drop below RM 400
I'm not sure which board yet as the websites for it is not available. Gigabyte H67MA-UD2H is at RM449 and Asus P8H67-M is at RM439 from C-Zone but it's not printed VSGL.
I'm not sure which board yet as the websites for it is not available. Gigabyte H67MA-UD2H is at RM449 and Asus P8H67-M is at RM439 from C-Zone but it's not printed VSGL.
Thanks but Gigabyte H67MA-UD2H doesn't have pci x4 and I cant find the Asus P8H67-M spec.
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QUOTE(ukimaro @ Dec 16 2010, 11:40 AM)
bro ! so when u gonna sell sandy bridge cpu ?
Yes but wont be so soon anyway it's too early to say. Somehow from the benches observed, 1366 is still a lot better than 1155. Something like 4.7ghz 1155 = 4.5ghz 1366.
Yes but wont be so soon anyway it's too early to say. Somehow from the benches observed, 1366 is still a lot better than 1155. Something like 4.7ghz 1155 = 4.5ghz 1366.
but how easy is achieving maximum on a 1155 vs 1366 though you say a 1366 @ 4.5 most ppl would oc-ed to 4ghz + @ air
where as mass produced 1155 potential is yet to be seen
Yes but wont be so soon anyway it's too early to say. Somehow from the benches observed, 1366 is still a lot better than 1155. Something like 4.7ghz 1155 = 4.5ghz 1366.
Well thats only if u count those 32nm 6 core gulftowns because i think they are the only reason 1366 to survive. It is hard to justify getting bloomfield over sandy K series.
btw, base on the conversion 2500K is below RM700. this one is really a steal!
This post has been edited by billytong: Dec 16 2010, 02:11 PM
Lauded as a security feature, Intel’s new Sandy Bridge processor can be remotely disabled by a hardware/software combination known at Anti-Theft 3.0. Systems can be disabled over 3G networks, even while the OS is not running. Even when the hard drive is replaced, the critical systems will still be terminated.
At first this sounds great: if an owner loses a laptop it can be remotely disabled to ensure no sensitive data is compromised. But.. MORE>>>
now.. i dont think we should go around whispering 'be afraid.. be very afraid!' yet rite? care to shed some light on this..?
Processors prices are not as high as I expected. But motherboards prices are really high right now. Hope they'll drop fast. Itching to get a new system
like tat i use ratio to calculate 2600K based on the above table: RM939/USD294 x USD317 = RM1012
QUOTE(paradis3lost @ Dec 16 2010, 08:33 PM)
Processors prices are not as high as I expected. But motherboards prices are really high right now. Hope they'll drop fast. Itching to get a new system
haha hopefully, waited this for few months! finally can upgrade my old rig to i series xD how u guys think 2600k pair with asus p8p67 deluxe + 8 GB of corsair vengeance DDR1600? would they perform good?
They already removed the list of LGA1155 processors based on the latest price list(hardware-dec-16.pdf), the previous price list(hardware-dec-15.pdf) is the one they leak the price. Maybe they got warning from Intel.
They already removed the list of LGA1155 processors based on the latest price list(hardware-dec-16.pdf), the previous price list(hardware-dec-15.pdf) is the one they leak the price. Maybe they got warning from Intel.
They've already overcharged the SB processors price, but it's not the worst. Just look at the LGA1155 motherboard price list, overcharge even more than SB processors.
The motherboard price is really expensive eventhough the process is in a good price position . Anyhow , this complete new 1155 setup will cost 2k for setup with monitor without GC.
Added on December 18, 2010, 8:20 pmAnyone the the pricelist for GA-H67A-UD3H motherboard ?
This post has been edited by Maxieos: Dec 18 2010, 08:20 PM
do you think it's available at All IT low yat too?
LoL yes all it have it on sale but price a bit pricy but i would recommand u get from the worldwide-recognized-malaysian-it-shop which will hav lots cheaper prices
picture added as proof
This post has been edited by Mr.Lonely: Dec 23 2010, 02:33 AM
LoL yes all it have it on sale but price a bit pricy but i would recommand u get from the worldwide-recognized-malaysian-it-shop which will hav lots cheaper prices
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From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan
Few page back there is a table showing prices for all Sandy Bridge procs. Same as wiki. I think the prices are correct. As for mobo, check out lingloong threads
Yupe can also be seen in the coretemp vid 1.375v But very low for such clock. 1156 procs u need insanely high vcore to do tat. The GFLops is almost similar to my i7 920 at 4.6Ghz HT off 1.435v.
That would be an utterly stupid move if Intel does that. I don't think it's even possible for them to disable the CPU anyway even though they implement this kill switch thing.
i been read things like Intel don't really care about the secret selling of S1155 processor, just don't over do , they want to know the sales and momentum of Sandy Bridge
@owikh84 , 4.8GHz on stock cooling? 20C on 0% load, super impressive
Thanks ! for the picture, as I saw , it has a PCI x 4 slot , 1 slot for wireless pci network adapter.But still why Asus website doesn't show the motherboard details ?
still no1 can confirm on the thermalright bolt thru-kit for 1156 is compatible with 1155? >< very sad to stay on stock cooler until today i wan to OC my 2600k NOW xD!
still no1 can confirm on the thermalright bolt thru-kit for 1156 is compatible with 1155? >< very sad to stay on stock cooler until today i wan to OC my 2600k NOW xD!
I read some in the net say that LGA 1155 has the same mounting holes as LGA1156. Might be leaked out news, anyway, just wait till Jan 5. Few more days only. By then, all the questions have been answered.
still no1 can confirm on the thermalright bolt thru-kit for 1156 is compatible with 1155? >< very sad to stay on stock cooler until today i wan to OC my 2600k NOW xD!
hoe much you bought ur 2600k for? whats the cheapest sandy bridge mobo for sli at min 8x/8x speed?
1k =D
QUOTE(Kr0ll3R @ Dec 28 2010, 03:12 AM)
I read some in the net say that LGA 1155 has the same mounting holes as LGA1156. Might be leaked out news, anyway, just wait till Jan 5. Few more days only. By then, all the questions have been answered.
=.= i decided wait for official launching =D
QUOTE(kEazYc @ Dec 28 2010, 05:01 PM)
Don't worry its the same, confirmed.
really? so mean i can go buy 1156 bolt thru kit for my 1155 now?
QUOTE(bad melatonin @ Dec 29 2010, 07:25 AM)
I7-2600K RM1020 @ viewnet
20 bucks higher =D
QUOTE(dupont200 @ Dec 29 2010, 12:27 PM)
between i7 2600k and i5 2500k, which 1 is the bang of the buck?
if not going into quad core era, i5 2500k is best bang !
All 1156 coolers will fit on 1155 mobos coz both hv the same size of retention holes n distance among the holes is identical Google dude
lol exactly, on top of that, Sandy board is already out in the market, just put a Sandy board + Nehelem board side by side and compare with any measurement tool will get the answer.
As for the 2500K vs 2600k, by dumping that 300 into a better cooler,you can squeeze extra Ghz from the 2500k perform as good as a 2600k. Hyper threading are less useful if the all 4 cores is fulload.
2600K is for those for want absolute high performance = multi-threading softwares, I personally think 4 sandy bridge cores(with OC to 4Ghz+) is more than sufficient for a few years in the future already.
This post has been edited by billytong: Dec 30 2010, 09:53 PM
coolermaster already has a list of coolers for 1155, they just redirect you to the coolers for 1156. lol.
anyway there are some numbers up at www.cpubenchmark.net for 2400, 2500 and 2600 for a while now.
both 2400 and 2500 were below 7000 while 2600k was above 9000 (980x is around 10k) but those numbers aren't exactly reliable as people run them with highly varied configs. it still serve as a good reference though if anyone is still curious about the relative performance difference.
anyway it's never a good choice to go 2600k if you're only gaming as by the time a game can take full advantage of 2600k's performance, significantly faster chip would already be in the market and the money saved from going mid end and not high end would net you another mid end chip.
This post has been edited by romentheposmen: Dec 30 2010, 09:59 PM
i can confirm that 1156 and 1155 can use the same cooler.
i was worried when i buy my 2400, then later i tried my geminII on it dosen fit, forgeting the fact that it only support 775. Later on after asking around i try my even older 212 plus and it fitted just fine, now the core on idea are around 16c, amazing how cool this proc can be.
i can confirm that 1156 and 1155 can use the same cooler.
i was worried when i buy my 2400, then later i tried my geminII on it dosen fit, forgeting the fact that it only support 775. Later on after asking around i try my even older 212 plus and it fitted just fine, now the core on idea are around 16c, amazing how cool this proc can be.
i can confirm that 1156 and 1155 can use the same cooler.
i was worried when i buy my 2400, then later i tried my geminII on it dosen fit, forgeting the fact that it only support 775. Later on after asking around i try my even older 212 plus and it fitted just fine, now the core on idea are around 16c, amazing how cool this proc can be.
May I know what cooler are you using? Stock hsf? What's your room temperature? 16c is lower than our ambient temperature in Malaysia. It doesn't quite make sense. Bad reading?
This post has been edited by ALeUNe: Dec 31 2010, 03:08 AM
since there's plenty of question about HSF on 1155 platform, i'm pretty sure you can use any 1156 platform HSF. it fit perfectly. i did my testing with AVF 1156 HSF. Sorry i have only this picture.
This post has been edited by Sanko: Dec 31 2010, 08:50 AM
Is around 16 - 20c la, it jump around between these number. ambient temp, not sure, don have themometor around, but maybe cost of is raining all the time, and my room is always on aircon . HSF is Hyper 212 with 2 artic cooling fan from craw hammer.
Guys, thinkin to get the 2400 or 2500k. Which do you think its best in terms of pricing? I dont really oc much. Will 2400 3.1ghz handles game like starcraft 2 properly?
seem like your were right to ask me to use cpuid, speedfan show highest 21c at ideal but cpuid show 33c, then load highest at speedfan 30c and 46 at cpuid. dono which one to trust now
Added on January 1, 2011, 1:49 ambtw, kahje bro, my 2400 with 4830 at starcraft2 high setting 1080p no lag.
This post has been edited by Aiphos: Jan 1 2011, 01:49 AM
this is pretty much all i spend, others i took from my old rig after the motherboard fried. You edi got a really decent rig there, surely you will spend less hen me.
Added on January 1, 2011, 3:16 amregret... well, from old first gen phenom to this is allot difference, i photoshop allot, now nvr need to wait for effect to apply is like magic to me. but i do complain on the booting time, seem too slow sometime, old rig took like 30 second to finish boot, this new rig need like 1 minute plus plus.
One more thing, overclocking head room too low, 3.5 max for me. but since your not overclocking the 2400 seem decent for you.
This post has been edited by Aiphos: Jan 1 2011, 03:20 AM
this is pretty much all i spend, others i took from my old rig after the motherboard fried. You edi got a really decent rig there, surely you will spend less hen me.
Added on January 1, 2011, 3:16 amregret... well, from old first gen phenom to this is allot difference, i photoshop allot, now nvr need to wait for effect to apply is like magic to me. but i do complain on the booting time, seem too slow sometime, old rig took like 30 second to finish boot, this new rig need like 1 minute plus plus.
One more thing, overclocking head room too low, 3.5 max for me. but since your not overclocking the 2400 seem decent for you.
hey,how did the intel i5 2400 and gigabyte P67A - us3 perform? thinking of getting it
This post has been edited by centaurious25: Jan 1 2011, 12:47 PM
kahjye Posted Today, 03:41 AM Its because its locked rite? Well 3.5ghz is good already!
yeap, must buy the K series if wanna do overclock. But 2400 is really decent to perform all my task, so not complaining la.
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MystiqueLife Posted Today, 08:59 AM Aiphos, can you show some LinX benchies to measure GFlops and SuperPI 1M result?
Here you go.
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centaurious25 Posted Today, 12:46 PM hey,how did the intel i5 2400 and gigabyte P67A - us3 perform? thinking of getting it
Good i think compare to my old gear, photoshop no lag, process video no lag nor crash. i also uploaded some result here, Pass Mark, you can get a good idea how well it perform.
motherboard wise, i pick this coz of its the cheapest Full ATX P67 mobo, which comes with the old PCI slot, so i can use my sound card, so if you have old pci card that you need to use, this will be a good choice.
I got myself i5-2500 and Gigabyte P67A-UD4. Now I'm not too sure if my version is the unlocked version. The box doesn't have the code K.
But CPU-Z reports "Intel Core i5 2500K".
Anyway, using Gigabyte's EasyTune 6, I overclocked this CPU to use multiplier 38x, so the speed can reach 3.8GHz (from 3.3GHz).
I'm using Coolermaster Hyper 212+. Ran Prime95 stable for more than 8 hours.
Idle temp at about 40 C, and load at 63 C. Not sure about ambient temp, but my room (work/store room) is sure warm. (no aircond, not even fan, poor me!)
I also have 2 x Sapphire 6850 Toxic running in CrossfireX mode. Guess this contributes to the heat.
This post has been edited by willaw: Jan 1 2011, 06:45 PM
my suggestion: get "K" version rather than normal -2600 just a few hundred ringgit. but soooooo tempting!
and P67 chipset make BCLK overclocking become more complicated. so, go get "K".
i am "idling" user so i always set C1E & speedstep on. but changing the turbo ratio inside the bios give me appropriate power when needed! and the bios GUI is quite nice; called "EFI".
regards: ASUS P8P67+i7-2600K user since 27th december 2010
thanks man. think i will make a visit to either digital mall or lowyat soon.. their prices seem better than our garage sales here
yup, true enough.
QUOTE(mohdazuan @ Jan 1 2011, 07:54 PM)
my suggestion: get "K" version rather than normal -2600 just a few hundred ringgit. but soooooo tempting!
and P67 chipset make BCLK overclocking become more complicated. so, go get "K".
i am "idling" user so i always set C1E & speedstep on. but changing the turbo ratio inside the bios give me appropriate power when needed! and the bios GUI is quite nice; called "EFI".
regards: ASUS P8P67+i7-2600K user since 27th december 2010
at 4.5GHz, how much is your GFlops? show some benchies!
I got myself i5-2500 and Gigabyte P67A-UD4. Now I'm not too sure if my version is the unlocked version. The box doesn't have the code K.
But CPU-Z reports "Intel Core i5 2500K".
Anyway, using Gigabyte's EasyTune 6, I overclocked this CPU to use multiplier 38x, so the speed can reach 3.8GHz (from 3.3GHz).
I'm using Coolermaster Hyper 212+. Ran Prime95 stable for more than 8 hours.
Idle temp at about 40 C, and load at 63 C. Not sure about ambient temp, but my room (work/store room) is sure warm. (no aircond, not even fan, poor me!)
I also have 2 x Sapphire 6850 Toxic running in CrossfireX mode. Guess this contributes to the heat.
RM710. Deducted from RM720 I think, because I pay cash.
710?wow refer to the pc depot price show by owikh84, 2500k's price is 725...15 bucks difference oni? anyways,thx for sharing the price...n thx aiphos gonna go lowyat and get myself one sandy bridge soon
Oh, i5-2500K can overclock to 4.5GHz? I haven't try. Will try and post the results here.
Added on January 1, 2011, 9:46 pm
QUOTE(centaurious25 @ Jan 1 2011, 09:20 PM)
710?wow refer to the pc depot price show by owikh84, 2500k's price is 725...15 bucks difference oni? anyways,thx for sharing the price...n thx aiphos gonna go lowyat and get myself one sandy bridge soon
I'm not sure if mine is 2500K.
Anyone got the normal 2500 and post your CPU-Z info?
This post has been edited by willaw: Jan 1 2011, 09:46 PM
I know it can OC to 4.0 ~ 4.2 without much problem, only thing is if it can run on 4.5 with air cooling stable. Do check your temperature when you OC, cause it might get too hot.
btw, some people can reach until 4.9GHz (almost 5GHz) based on google result and youtube result. i just to 4.5 using single core turbo mode using prime95, by adjusting turbo core ratio.
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MSI intros Big Bang Marshal board with eight PCIe x16 slots
With Intel's Sandy Bridge processors set to debut at CES 2011, MSI has taken the opportunity to unveil its new flagship P67 motherboard offering, the "Big Bang Marshal." Demonstrating the very definition of overkill, MSI's upcoming board utilizes the XL-ATX format and sports eight PCI Express x16 slots, eight USB 3.0 ports, and three BIOS chips.
The PCIe slots can pump x16 speeds on up to four slots or x8 when occupying all eight. That bandwidth is courtesy of a new Lucid Hydra chip, which may not support the ability to mix and match different graphics cards (and that's probably for the best). The four true x16 slots can be disabled manually via onboard DIP switches dubbed "PCI-E CeaseFire".
The Big Bang Marshal also features a 24 phase DrMOS PWM design, two 8-pin CPU power connectors and one 6-pin for the PCIe slots, four DDR3 DIMM slots with support for up to 32GB of RAM, an LED POST display, power, reset and OC Genie buttons as well as a multimeter measurement point. There's also talk of "ClickBIOS," which is MSI's name for UEFI.
Connectivity includes four SATA 3Gb/s ports, four SATA 6Gb/s ports, and headers for six USB 2.0 and four USB 3.0 ports. The rear I/O plate is populated with two USB 2.0 ports, eight USB 3.0 ports (via a single host controller and two hubs), a PS/2 port, FireWire, dual-Gigabit Ethernet, and 7.1-channel audio with optical and coaxial S/PDIF output.
I know it can OC to 4.0 ~ 4.2 without much problem, only thing is if it can run on 4.5 with air cooling stable. Do check your temperature when you OC, cause it might get too hot.
What's the multiplier max limit?
I just confirmed that mine is NOT the K version.
The only way I can change the multiplier is through Gigabyte ET6's Quick Boost (Level 3 - highest level).
Once set, restarting the PC will show CPU settings with multiplier 38.
The multiplier however, cannot be changed from within the BIOS, nor can it be changed within ET6. So I can't change anything higher than 38.
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MSI intros Big Bang Marshal board with eight PCIe x16 slots
With Intel's Sandy Bridge processors set to debut at CES 2011, MSI has taken the opportunity to unveil its new flagship P67 motherboard offering, the "Big Bang Marshal." Demonstrating the very definition of overkill, MSI's upcoming board utilizes the XL-ATX format and sports eight PCI Express x16 slots, eight USB 3.0 ports, and three BIOS chips.
The PCIe slots can pump x16 speeds on up to four slots or x8 when occupying all eight. That bandwidth is courtesy of a new Lucid Hydra chip, which may not support the ability to mix and match different graphics cards (and that's probably for the best). The four true x16 slots can be disabled manually via onboard DIP switches dubbed "PCI-E CeaseFire".
The Big Bang Marshal also features a 24 phase DrMOS PWM design, two 8-pin CPU power connectors and one 6-pin for the PCIe slots, four DDR3 DIMM slots with support for up to 32GB of RAM, an LED POST display, power, reset and OC Genie buttons as well as a multimeter measurement point. There's also talk of "ClickBIOS," which is MSI's name for UEFI.
Connectivity includes four SATA 3Gb/s ports, four SATA 6Gb/s ports, and headers for six USB 2.0 and four USB 3.0 ports. The rear I/O plate is populated with two USB 2.0 ports, eight USB 3.0 ports (via a single host controller and two hubs), a PS/2 port, FireWire, dual-Gigabit Ethernet, and 7.1-channel audio with optical and coaxial S/PDIF output.
The only way I can change the multiplier is through Gigabyte ET6's Quick Boost (Level 3 - highest level).
Once set, restarting the PC will show CPU settings with multiplier 38.
The multiplier however, cannot be changed from within the BIOS, nor can it be changed within ET6. So I can't change anything higher than 38.
What about the BCLK adjustment?
QUOTE(owikh84 @ Jan 2 2011, 09:15 AM)
4.5Ghz 4C/4T my Bloomfield
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Nice benchmarks!! Not quite worth the upgrade though from current Lynn/Bloomfield series
BTW, how do you make it stable @ 4.5GHz? I can barely pass the bootscreen at that frequency. =( And both on air cooling? You should have included the temperature for Sandy Bridge vs Bloomfield
This post has been edited by MystiqueLife: Jan 2 2011, 10:38 AM
Thanks for the information. Looks like the best way is to get the K series or unless some motherboards manufacturer comes with a way to "increase locked multiplier".
I wonder, what's your load temperature with LinX @ 3.8GHz?
Thanks for the information. Looks like the best way is to get the K series or unless some motherboards manufacturer comes with a way to "increase locked multiplier".
I wonder, what's your load temperature with LinX @ 3.8GHz?
Agreed. Just get the K series.
Load temperature:
Core 1: 59 C Core 2: 59 C Core 3: 62 C Core 4: 60 C
BCLK can be overclocked, but I didn't try to overclock it due to information I find like this one:
they are going back to single clock generator, caused me to remember at the pentium III era
QUOTE(willaw @ Jan 2 2011, 12:18 PM)
Mainboard temp: 41 C
i think your hardware inside your casing don't have enough air & space to breath. full of accessories? my room temperature is same like my body's temperature but i have front & back casing fan to help air flow inside casing.
they are going back to single clock generator, caused me to remember at the pentium III era i think your hardware inside your casing don't have enough air & space to breath. full of accessories? my room temperature is same like my body's temperature but i have front & back casing fan to help air flow inside casing.
Oh, you must remember that he is using IBT. Prime95 doesn't stress CPU like IBT.
You read that correctly. This little $26 heatsink used three skinny heat-pipe rods and an Intel push-pin mounting system to tame an overclocked 5.2 GHz CPU to 68°C. It didn't require a ProlimaTech Megahalems or Thermalright Venomous-X, and even our beloved Scythe Mugen-2 would have been wasted on this effort. I think you get my point: it was the lowest possible denominator on the aftermarket cooling scale, and most impressive overclock could be done without all of the extra heat-pipes and copper fins. It's also why there may now be an entire industry poised to collapse as a direct result.
68C, maybe +10C in Malaysia, lol. But still very cool.
This post has been edited by romentheposmen: Jan 2 2011, 07:54 PM
a quick question since most ppl will use dedicated graphic card anyway is there any way to ultilize the internal graphics for others purpose? maybe for physic? becoz it seems like a big waste the graphic core can perform calculations also
a quick question since most ppl will use dedicated graphic card anyway is there any way to ultilize the internal graphics for others purpose? maybe for physic? becoz it seems like a big waste the graphic core can perform calculations also
a quick answer: gpu inside sandy bridge disabled by P67 chipset because there are no onboard graphic port. you may want to use it on H67.
a quick answer: gpu inside sandy bridge disabled by P67 chipset because there are no onboard graphic port. you may want to use it on H67.
i know p67 wont ultilize it i mean, it is so waste of resource while the gpu is there, but we cant use it for others purpose. the gpu core is a quite big portion in the cpu
maybe they can enabled it for others purpose like parrallel processing or somtin else?
later z68 come, say wait for bulldozer/ivy bridge already.
this waiting game very mind boggling.
Z68 should be around Q2,if Bulldozer is not delayed then it's going to go head to head with SB + Z68
QUOTE(881118 @ Jan 3 2011, 09:50 PM)
i know p67 wont ultilize it i mean, it is so waste of resource while the gpu is there, but we cant use it for others purpose. the gpu core is a quite big portion in the cpu
maybe they can enabled it for others purpose like parrallel processing or somtin else?
Anandtech said Intel has some sort of use for the unused IGP planned,maybe like hybrid graphics later down the road.But as of now imo it's such a waste P67 doesn't support video output/H67 doesn't support CPU OC
Z68 should be around Q2,if Bulldozer is not delayed then it's going to go head to head with SB + Z68
Anandtech said Intel has some sort of use for the unused IGP planned,maybe like hybrid graphics later down the road.But as of now imo it's such a waste P67 doesn't support video output/H67 doesn't support CPU OC
hybrid graphics means? if the integrated graphic can works as cuda or physic then it will be great!
you should submit your suggestion to intel. maybe they listen
anyway, if processor architecture can be "custom made" by consumer (like dell notebook which you can choose custom hardware and ask them to build it), i am sure 90% around the globe want the gpu to be removed and put something useful inside it, or just leave the core alone in it.
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From: Butterworth, PG / Machang, Kelantan
QUOTE(flexus90 @ Jan 4 2011, 12:06 AM)
On air? Or watercooling
On air. Source is from the 2600K + Maximus review * ASUS Maximus IV Extreme (BIOS 0504) * Intel Core i7 2600K * Prolimatech Megahalems with an Adda AD1212UB-A7BGL fan * 2×2GB Corsair Dominator GTX2 DDR3-2250 with fan * MSI GTX 580 (reference) – Nvidia FW 263.99 (performance settings) * 74GB Western Digital Raptor HDD * Corsair AX1200 1200W PSU * Windows 7 Ultimate x64 or Windows XP Pro x86 SP3
Intel never quite reached 4GHz with the Pentium 4. Despite being on a dedicated quest for gigahertz the company stopped short and the best we ever got was 3.8GHz. Within a year the clock (no pun intended) was reset and we were all running Core 2 Duos at under 3GHz. With each subsequent generation Intel inched those clock speeds higher, but preferred to gain performance through efficiency rather than frequency.
Today, Intel quietly finishes what it started nearly a decade ago. When running a single threaded application, the Core i7 2600K will power gate three of its four cores and turbo the fourth core as high as 3.8GHz. Even with two cores active, the 32nm chip can run them both up to 3.7GHz. The only thing keeping us from 4GHz is a lack of competition to be honest. Relying on single-click motherboard auto-overclocking alone, the 2600K is easily at 4.4GHz. For those of you who want more, 4.6 - 4.8GHz is within reason. All on air, without any exotic cooling.
Unlike Lynnfield, Sandy Bridge isn’t just about turbo (although Sandy Bridge’s turbo modes are quite awesome). Architecturally it’s the biggest change we’ve seen since Conroe, although looking at a high level block diagram you wouldn’t be able to tell.
Ever since the Sandy Bridge preview, we’ve been waiting to see what Intel’s new architecture could do for mobility. No longer would quad-core notebooks require discrete graphics solutions, and performance would improve as well. While many of the desktop parts make do with a trimmed down graphics controller, nearly all of the mobile Sandy Bridge processors are packing a full set of 12EUs. Combine the improved efficiency of Intel’s new HD Graphics solution with double the clock speed of Core 2010’s IGP, and you have a recipe for mainstream graphics that may finally move out of their parents’ basement. We’ve been vigorously testing our Sandy Bridge notebook for the past couple of weeks, throwing everything we had available at it. Processor and graphics performance are markedly improved over Arrandale and Clarksfield, and battery life shows promise as well. Sandy Bridge may be a nice upgrade on the desktop, but for laptops and notebooks it’s nothing short or revolutionary.
finally after 2 weeksseveral days on market, major manufacturer of mainboard, top computer hardware reviewer finally release a story about 1155 mainboard and finally after a decade, intel changing their mind about locked-multiplier's policy
lets discuss about it soon when the manufacturer's release that kind of product. right now it just only appear from a website which has nothing to do with asus. they can predict, can give rumour, but only asus responsible to deliver that. right now i don't see any so-called P67-I which has built-in gpu ports on-board. so, i cannot comment anything
yeap, must buy the K series if wanna do overclock. But 2400 is really decent to perform all my task, so not complaining la. Here you go. Good i think compare to my old gear, photoshop no lag, process video no lag nor crash. i also uploaded some result here, Pass Mark, you can get a good idea how well it perform.
motherboard wise, i pick this coz of its the cheapest Full ATX P67 mobo, which comes with the old PCI slot, so i can use my sound card, so if you have old pci card that you need to use, this will be a good choice.
Here some pic of my rig
How much u pay for the 2400
Added on January 4, 2011, 9:54 am
QUOTE(Aiphos @ Jan 1 2011, 01:56 PM)
yeap, must buy the K series if wanna do overclock. But 2400 is really decent to perform all my task, so not complaining la. Here you go. Good i think compare to my old gear, photoshop no lag, process video no lag nor crash. i also uploaded some result here, Pass Mark, you can get a good idea how well it perform.
motherboard wise, i pick this coz of its the cheapest Full ATX P67 mobo, which comes with the old PCI slot, so i can use my sound card, so if you have old pci card that you need to use, this will be a good choice.
Here some pic of my rig
How much u pay for the 2400
This post has been edited by centaurious25: Jan 4 2011, 09:54 AM
K version doesn't have VT-d but have HD 3000, while the non-K have VT-d but only HD 2000.
I want VT-d with HD 3000!!!!
Is like that , that's how they do business , remove one function but adding an extra function . without K series have VT but K without VT. Maybe 2011 will have both VT + 3000 ?
That's how business runs , for me VT-d is more important , but I am sure you guys actually buying K series for gaming right ? so VT-d is less important maybe for gaming user.And now , most VT able to use software base VT.
This post has been edited by Maxieos: Jan 4 2011, 06:38 PM
Many places including shops in Digital Mall selling the mobos openly, and CPUs are also available if you ask over the counter. But not many shops have the unlocked K CPUS tho.
like 860/870 and 875K, thats how they build 2600/2600K, with and without vt-d, but still has vt-x both of it.
can you guys tell me what is so important about vt-d? previously when i using 32-bit os as host, the only matter for me is only vt-x, since it allow 64-bit virtual guest os running on 32-bit host os using that instruction.
All other processors cease to matter in the wake of Intel’s new high-performance CPU
When your only competition is yourself, what do you do when you have to introduce your latest and greatest CPU? Commit fratricide against your own chips? If you have the muscle and war chest of Intel, then yes.
At least, that’s what Intel’s new Sandy Bridge CPU family does to the company’s existing lineup of processors—lines them up on a cliff and pushes them off, one by one.
The stellar Core i7-870? Off you go. Core i7-975 Extreme Edition? Who needs your luxury-priced ass, anyway? Core i7-950? We’ll see you in hell!
In essence, Intel’s Sandy Bridge has rendered all previous quad-core and dual-core processors obsolete in both performance and price. Yes, the top chips in Intel’s Sandy Bridge family are that fast. And they’re pretty damn cheap, too. The fastest Sandy Bridge chip, for example, will outrun the $1,000 Core i7-975 Extreme Edition, yet it costs just three bills.
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The top-end Core i7-2600K smashes every other quad-core Intel chip by healthy margins. This is aided by the new microarchitecture, the ring bus, and other magical stuff, we suppose, but we see no reason to buy any other CPU for the money. Even the once-powerful Core i7-975 Extreme Edition is flatly punched in the nose by the 2600K. While the 975 is long gone, you can extrapolate that the 2600K will outgun the Core i7-950, i7-930, and the poorly priced i7-960. Against non-Intel chips, it’s no contest. AMD’s hexa-core Phenom II X6 1090T, which was already getting beaten up by existing Hyper-Threaded Core i7 chips, also takes a serious thrashing from the Core i7-2600K.
All reviewer seems to recommend 2500K as best bang for buck, of course you can go higher to 2600K, if you happy with your Core i something right now, you don't need to upgrade, if you are on some Pentium 4, it is time to purchase it
On other fact, most motherboard hovering RM430 range, and 2500K around RM700, are you okay to purchase RM1100 range CPU and Board?
All other processors cease to matter in the wake of Intel’s new high-performance CPU
When your only competition is yourself, what do you do when you have to introduce your latest and greatest CPU? Commit fratricide against your own chips? If you have the muscle and war chest of Intel, then yes.
At least, that’s what Intel’s new Sandy Bridge CPU family does to the company’s existing lineup of processors—lines them up on a cliff and pushes them off, one by one.
The stellar Core i7-870? Off you go. Core i7-975 Extreme Edition? Who needs your luxury-priced ass, anyway? Core i7-950? We’ll see you in hell!
In essence, Intel’s Sandy Bridge has rendered all previous quad-core and dual-core processors obsolete in both performance and price. Yes, the top chips in Intel’s Sandy Bridge family are that fast. And they’re pretty damn cheap, too. The fastest Sandy Bridge chip, for example, will outrun the $1,000 Core i7-975 Extreme Edition, yet it costs just three bills.
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The top-end Core i7-2600K smashes every other quad-core Intel chip by healthy margins. This is aided by the new microarchitecture, the ring bus, and other magical stuff, we suppose, but we see no reason to buy any other CPU for the money. Even the once-powerful Core i7-975 Extreme Edition is flatly punched in the nose by the 2600K. While the 975 is long gone, you can extrapolate that the 2600K will outgun the Core i7-950, i7-930, and the poorly priced i7-960. Against non-Intel chips, it’s no contest. AMD’s hexa-core Phenom II X6 1090T, which was already getting beaten up by existing Hyper-Threaded Core i7 chips, also takes a serious thrashing from the Core i7-2600K.
Yeah, really powerful words that makes you convinced that only Sandy Bridge is the answer to the upgrade dilemma.
i would wait until ivy bridge, but lightning spoilt my pc, so i've been forced to upgrade
I was forced too blown mobo that can't even power on , I'll better get surge protectors and UPS too my house 's Power supply is unstable, damn you TNB.
I was forced too blown mobo that can't even power on , I'll better get surge protectors and UPS too my house 's Power supply is unstable, damn you TNB.
I highly recommend Belkin SurgeMaster series. Get those that has 1x1 exchange, lifetime warranty. Mine got burn once, and I changed it, no questions asked.
I'm using one of this (just googled this, I'm in no way affiliated with this seller ):
theres no use buying sandy bridge processor nw............ivy bridge will come out dis december wif 22nm instead of 32nm..........32nm is old technology and sandy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
its more worth to wait for ivy bridge ..........and intel said that ivy bridge will hav at least four cores and a maximum of 8 cores.......
theres no use buying sandy bridge processor nw............ivy bridge will come out dis december wif 22nm instead of 32nm..........32nm is old technology and sandy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
its more worth to wait for ivy bridge ..........and intel said that ivy bridge will hav at least four cores and a maximum of 8 cores.......
What about Intel Dual Core user? Do they hve to wait for ivy for its worthness too?
theres no use buying sandy bridge processor nw............ivy bridge will come out dis december wif 22nm instead of 32nm..........32nm is old technology and sandy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
its more worth to wait for ivy bridge ..........and intel said that ivy bridge will hav at least four cores and a maximum of 8 cores.......
Ivy bridge is rumored to be out q3 2010 but is expected to be out at CES2012...
In any case Ivy will still use socket 1155... the cheapest socket 1155 mobo is RM499... I'd go AMD on sandy for my money sake if i need to...
What about Intel Dual Core user? Do they hve to wait for ivy for its worthness too?
The better answer to this is, do dual-core users need the extra CPU power for their usage? In all honesty, if not... then no upgrading is needed, be it Sandy bridge or Ivy bridge.
Users need to understand that they don't have to just upgrade and then be able to show off some e-peen on the internet to get some virtual cookies then end up doing nothing with all that extra power.
Of course, user's money... user's will. My point is, upgrade if theres a need otherwise don't, unless you really have NBTD and have pockets so deep you can blow your nose with RM100 bills.
theres no use buying sandy bridge processor nw............ivy bridge will come out dis december wif 22nm instead of 32nm..........32nm is old technology and sandy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
its more worth to wait for ivy bridge ..........and intel said that ivy bridge will hav at least four cores and a maximum of 8 cores.......
One year later......theres no use buying Ivy bridge processor nw............Haswell will come out dis december wif ground up new microarchitecture technology and Ivy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
Two year later.......theres no use buying Haswell processor nw............Rockwell will come out dis december wif 16nm instead of 22nm..........22nm is old technology and Haswell will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
mehh I don't wanna play this waiting game, since we have supa good deal with Core i5 2500K, that's good enough for at least another 3-4 years.
One year later......theres no use buying Ivy bridge processor nw............Haswell will come out dis december wif ground up new microarchitecture technology and Ivy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
Two year later.......theres no use buying Haswell processor nw............Rockwell will come out dis december wif 16nm instead of 22nm..........22nm is old technology and Haswell will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
mehh I don't wanna play this waiting game, since we have supa good deal with Core i5 2500K, that's good enough for at least another 3-4 years.
Thats true.
If you keep waiting and waiting, u will end up not buying anything.
One year later......theres no use buying Ivy bridge processor nw............Haswell will come out dis december wif ground up new microarchitecture technology and Ivy bridge will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
Two year later.......theres no use buying Haswell processor nw............Rockwell will come out dis december wif 16nm instead of 22nm..........22nm is old technology and Haswell will b obsolete in 11 months time.........
mehh I don't wanna play this waiting game, since we have supa good deal with Core i5 2500K, that's good enough for at least another 3-4 years.
f*** intel! why cant they jz release new architecture and shrink the processor at the same time and release them every 2 years instead of their 'release new architecture this year, but keep the processor size, then keep the architecture nex year but shrink the processor, then release another architecture for the following year, but keep the processor size...........and keep repeating this for the years to come'
this is wat they call the 'tick tock' model adopted by intel to rip customers off......dont b fooled by intel.......they are bloody money suckers!
no use for fanboys either AMD side or Intel side to keep bragging of their platform superiority, what matters now is this:
-Intel dont mind to "force" user to upgrade the entire mobo+cpu if they wanna get sandy bridge, as there are entirely no competition from AMD, and ppl willing to buy sandy bridge. And Intel is making a huge profit from cpu and mobo(chipset) the same time, see the 1 bird kill 2 stone analogy? No point for intel to keep the same platform upgradability from Clarkdale to Sandy bridge, if u stand on Intel's ground, u will make the same move too.
-AMD are forced to lower their profit margin, AGAIN, history repeating itself. But good for budget users, cheap quad core Phenom X4 available under RM250 very soon
-AMD Bulldozer optimistically at best only match on Sandy bridge and not the Ivy Bridge@22nm. Even if AMD released Bulldozer as early as mid of this year(which I highly doubt ), Bulldozer will be bulldozed away by Ivy Bridge 6months later.
-CPU technology advancement is not as great as it was used to be, thnx to AMD lacked of competition. which i hate it very much.
This post has been edited by techmostwanted: Jan 7 2011, 12:17 AM
Off Topic Reply. Using a 4870. Going to upgrade to 6870. Suddenly 6970 comes out. WTH?! Sambung menabung. Based on my exp, a Wolfdate: OCs easy and cool enuff on air. Try it.
I upgrade based on these 2 articles from Tom's hardware.
Back to topic. Although I will not be upgrading to a Sandy for the time being, the i7 2600k is indeed a monster of a CPU. But have you guys read the reviews on the new Phenom X6? Even I am now considering of getting one of the 1090T.
Off Topic Reply. Using a 4870. Going to upgrade to 6870. Suddenly 6970 comes out. WTH?! Sambung menabung. Based on my exp, a Wolfdate: OCs easy and cool enuff on air. Try it.
I upgrade based on these 2 articles from Tom's hardware.
Back to topic. Although I will not be upgrading to a Sandy for the time being, the i7 2600k is indeed a monster of a CPU. But have you guys read the reviews on the new Phenom X6? Even I am now considering of getting one of the 1090T.
............... Thats different market segment!
Phenom X6 nothing really impressive actually, just additional two cores. thats it, if u didn use any heavily threaded apps. it is best to use X4 or even X2.
-AMD are forced to lower their profit margin, AGAIN, history repeating itself. But good for budget users, cheap quad core Phenom X4 available under RM250 very soon
Well they have too, but the reality is nothing/nonews about any recent price cut, I still see the same old price on AMD cpu ,there is no reason to buy AMD right now if anyone is looking for price/performance. Sandy bridge has make buying almost all AMD CPU pointless. They even threaten 1156/1366 socket too. Only the highest end gulftowns are still ahead of Sandy, but thats way more expensive.
QUOTE(fadhfuad @ Jan 7 2011, 12:24 AM)
Although I will not be upgrading to a Sandy for the time being, the i7 2600k is indeed a monster of a CPU. But have you guys read the reviews on the new Phenom X6? Even I am now considering of getting one of the 1090T.
if check the benchmark in sites like tomshardware/anandtech 2600K is beating the faster amd cpu 1100T almost every single benchmark, no offence but I wouldnt want you to get cheated by AMD, the 1090T should not be selling @ those price anymore. Base on the performance/watt AMD need at least 30-50% price cut on almost all their CPU. On mobo side the different between the same spec amd and Intel mobo can go as low as 250 bucks or less. We are not even talking about overclock sandy bridge yet.
Well they have too, but the reality is nothing/nonews about any recent price cut, I still see the same old price on AMD cpu ,there is no reason to buy AMD right now if anyone is looking for price/performance. Sandy bridge has make buying almost all AMD CPU pointless. They even threaten 1156/1366 socket too. Only the highest end gulftowns are still ahead of Sandy, but thats way more expensive.
if check the benchmark in sites like tomshardware/anandtech 2600K is beating the faster amd cpu 1100T almost every single benchmark, no offence but I wouldnt want you to get cheated by AMD, the 1090T should not be selling @ those price anymore. Base on the performance/watt AMD need at least 30-50% price cut on almost all their CPU. On mobo side the different between the same spec amd and Intel mobo can go as low as 250 bucks or less. We are not even talking about overclock sandy bridge yet.
price cut wont be happening overnight, it will happen only when AMD's inventory piling up in the warehouse and there are no demand for their stuff.
I do agree on AMD phenom II x6 performance, it is power hungry and the arch already passed its 2nd year birthday which is inferior to Intel's old Core2Duo arch. the price however, AMD couldnt afford to lower that much as it is an expensive piece of silicon to produce, they are mainly targetting X6 for enterprise and AMD users who prefer to upgrade their CPU instead of a whole platform which saves some $ in some sense.
I think people will buy Intel QuickSync tech, it is really an hidden gem in Sandy Bridge
AMD don't have a thing on Sandy Bridge, they are busy on Zacate, crashing CES party
Except it is stupid that you can only use it if you're on a H67 or Z68 mobo or you'd need to have 2 monitors. The fact of the matter is that majority would still opt for a CPU + descrete GPU.
Except it is stupid that you can only use it if you're on a H67 or Z68 mobo or you'd need to have 2 monitors. The fact of the matter is that majority would still opt for a CPU + descrete GPU.
Gem? Yes. Equally stupid? Definitely.
Intel obviously realizes this.
aha that is intel point....they have "power" to pull the string...but let them sell it well first...then they release new mobo can "SLi-ish" internal + Descrete GPU.. but i cant blame them...If I were them...also do the same move =PROFIT
btw Does Lucid Hydra apply to those thing? hope to see some review in near future
f*** intel! why cant they jz release new architecture and shrink the processor at the same time and release them every 2 years instead of their 'release new architecture this year, but keep the processor size, then keep the architecture nex year but shrink the processor, then release another architecture for the following year, but keep the processor size...........and keep repeating this for the years to come'
this is wat they call the 'tick tock' model adopted by intel to rip customers off......dont b fooled by intel.......they are bloody money suckers!
GO FOR AMD!! AMD ROCKS!
Why settle for second grade performance when you can get better? Especially when you have the budget. My Q9450 lasted me 2 1/2 year and still kicking while I see plenty of people recommending dual core at the time I buy it. I've been using computer for more than 20 years. Changing processor, mobo and RAM is nothing new for me.
Been maxing out games without the need of overclocking at 1920x1080 except for games that is made by fail programmers like Crysis and Metro 2003. My graphic card will need an upgrade though. It has no DirectX 11. I will only touch that when I have games that I will play.
Right now, i5 2500K is worth buying for people who wanna upgrade from dual core or slow processor. I will also go for that if my current setup has hardware defect.
AMD? Sorry, I don't wanna settle for low class performance. I use my PC for everything, not just for gaming.
This post has been edited by TristanX: Jan 7 2011, 07:02 PM
Off Topic Reply. Using a 4870. Going to upgrade to 6870. Suddenly 6970 comes out. WTH?! Sambung menabung. Based on my exp, a Wolfdate: OCs easy and cool enuff on air. Try it.
I upgrade based on these 2 articles from Tom's hardware.
Back to topic. Although I will not be upgrading to a Sandy for the time being, the i7 2600k is indeed a monster of a CPU. But have you guys read the reviews on the new Phenom X6? Even I am now considering of getting one of the 1090T.
Why get the 1090T when it gets pwned by the 2500k in gaming?
Solved with the latest @bios posted by u bro, now I'm using F6X @ 4.9GHz stable. Thanks!
Good to hear this,I still study my 2600K and UD7 BIOS.Will post some results later. Btw, only occurate voltage monitoring soft is atm : HWiNFO32 v3.66-1083 Beta
This post has been edited by stasio: Jan 9 2011, 09:28 AM
Hi guys, need your help this time. I just bought myself an I5 2500K. However, i still haven't buy a motherboard yet coz i dunno which one to pick.I dun wan regret later since P67 boards are so freakin expensive. I'm aiming to run 4.5ghz 24/7 settings. I've shortlisted a few mobo in my mind and yet i've difficulty on choosing the one.Please dont suggest me MSI mobo, i had a bad experience with them during my pentium 4 days.
Gigabyte P67-UD3 Asus P8P67
I dun need many features of the mobo, just need it to have good OC capabilties and the EFI bios is not important for me (i'm not going to meddle with it everyday ). I only need to operate 1 GC with the mobo, SLI /CFX capability is just optional. The motherboard must have enough clearance for my Xigmatek S1283 cooler. Btw, any shop in LYP sells the crossbow kit for it (for LGA1156)?? (the bolt-on kit, instead of using intel push-pin)
Please advise on the pros and cons of both the motherboards. I only noe the asus has 12 digital power phase but i cant find any info abt the gigabyte one.
Hi guys, need your help this time. I just bought myself an I5 2500K. However, i still haven't buy a motherboard yet coz i dunno which one to pick.I dun wan regret later since P67 boards are so freakin expensive. I'm aiming to run 4.5ghz 24/7 settings. I've shortlisted a few mobo in my mind and yet i've difficulty on choosing the one.Please dont suggest me MSI mobo, i had a bad experience with them during my pentium 4 days.
Gigabyte P67-UD3 Asus P8P67
I dun need many features of the mobo, just need it to have good OC capabilties and the EFI bios is not important for me (i'm not going to meddle with it everyday ). I only need to operate 1 GC with the mobo, SLI /CFX capability is just optional. The motherboard must have enough clearance for my Xigmatek S1283 cooler. Btw, any shop in LYP sells the crossbow kit for it (for LGA1156)?? (the bolt-on kit, instead of using intel push-pin)
Please advise on the pros and cons of both the motherboards. I only noe the asus has 12 digital power phase but i cant find any info abt the gigabyte one.
i already checked their website. If you compare ud3p and ud3, it only stated that ud3p has 12 phase power design but did not mention anything about ud3
Added on January 9, 2011, 7:13 pm
QUOTE(kahjye @ Jan 9 2011, 07:03 PM)
guys , should i take
asus p8p67 LE rm510 or
giga p67 ud3 rm475?
is the cfx speed of asus same as gigabyte ? 16x/4x
Dont take the Asus LE version, not worth it, non LE only RM599 but 12 phase power vs LE is 4 phase power design. Refer here
The Asus you listed there should be same cfx speed as gigabyte since the more expensive non LE version also 16x/4x
This post has been edited by k!nex: Jan 9 2011, 07:17 PM
Added on January 9, 2011, 7:33 pmmy pick is only between the asus LE and the ud3 ...above than that i cant afford anymore...
gigabyte is better than asus LE in terms of pricing?
if u nid more storage connectivity go for the asus, else the rest is almost the same. or choose the brand u prefer anyway i personally will choose asus over gaygaybyte due to some bad experience
I love the review about Quick Sync of the new architecture. Seems better than Nvidia CUDA and AMD Stream (APP). Seems it's Intel secret weapon against the other competitor.
After some quick read of early review, I see that Sandy Bridge has a dedicated silicon that just do video.
I love the review about Quick Sync of the new architecture. Seems better than Nvidia CUDA and AMD Stream (APP). Seems it's Intel secret weapon against the other competitor.
After some quick read of early review, I see that Sandy Bridge has a dedicated silicon that just do video.
If we are using discrete graphic, that's mean graphics core will be unused or disabled. So it means Quick Sync will be disable?
Am I right?
Yes, if you use discrete graphic, the quick sync will be disable. Unless you also connect a display to the on board graphics. Just hate this limitation, have to wait for Z68.
Yes, if you use discrete graphic, the quick sync will be disable. Unless you also connect a display to the on board graphics. Just hate this limitation, have to wait for Z68.
WHICH you have to use H67 for... And that means losing OCing for the K processors, which is what most people are going for right now.
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anyway i'm sticking with P55 till the 8 core is out haha
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price cut wont be happening overnight, it will happen only when AMD's inventory piling up in the warehouse and there are no demand for their stuff. 
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