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 Intel LGA1155 P67/Z68/Z77, Sandy/Ivy Bridge Architecture

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post Aug 10 2010, 09:31 AM

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QUOTE(billytong @ Apr 23 2010, 10:22 AM)
They can change as many socket as they want, but I am gonna use my PC for at least 5 years.

If u are not into imaging/gaming/development. I cannot see a reason to upgrade PC. Even if u still need some gaming to burn some of ur time, u can go back to the classic arcade, they are just as good in game play.

Infact the only good new thing fancy me is the low power Fanless PC. Atom isnt that "fast enough" for everyday general use yet. I am still waiting for it to get faster.
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Atom is a piece of shit. Just use a low power Celeron 3300 with dual core...only 50W or so more (total system consumption) and performs 10x faster (maybe more!).
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post Oct 29 2010, 05:13 PM

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That photo is obviously a mobo with 2 x Xeon processor with 8 cores each. So it's 16 cores and 32 threads.
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post Nov 15 2010, 11:29 AM

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ASUS launched SandyBridge mobo in Singapore.

http://www.atomicmpc.com.au/News/238643,as...-singapore.aspx

Who is going down to Singapore today and get one?? tongue.gif
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post Nov 18 2010, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(mcchin @ Nov 18 2010, 09:50 AM)
i7 950 is still far from i7 980x and the latest leaked 995x

later when LGA2011 come out and become mainstream, hopefully the 1366 proc will be cheaper

the way i see it, the normal user, its better to skip a gen
I totally skipped Core 2 series and now aiming for the Core i7
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That won't happen. You can't buy high-end proc of previous gen at cheap price. They'll simply phase it out and put it out of production.
Even higher end C2Q chips today not that cheap.

That's how to do business.
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post May 26 2012, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ May 22 2012, 11:31 AM)
Well, I say u hold onto ur CPU unless u feel that ur Phenom II X4 are fully max out that you couldnt bare any slow/lag anymore. You might not even know what AMD gonna plan for AM3+, until AMD decide to phase out socket AM3+ for good, stay what u have if u didnt max it out yet.
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already confirmed AMD dropping out of the race with intel. they will now focus on mobile and thin client platform only. so forget about am3+ or am4 because it is not gonna happen.

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post May 26 2012, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ May 26 2012, 10:31 AM)
doesnt mean they gonna stop producing desktop CPU. They mean they are not gonna hit high end market like Intel
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low end market also cannot fight in price and performance. whats the point.?

Anyway this is intel thread,, stop talking about losing platform like AMD already.....lol

btw, want to ask intel users, the virtu lucid thing....does it really shutdown your discrete gpu to near 0 power usage when nt in use? Planning to
upgrade to Z77....rig will be on 24/7 for download also. Btw, there seems not much diference between Z68 and Z77? z68 cheaper wor...i am now eyeing that Asus VLX mobo. Around rm430.

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post May 26 2012, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ May 26 2012, 10:41 AM)
I was talking about someone who want to dump an expensive AM3+ motherboard for 1155, you are the one who quoted me, have u read all my post lol.
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No. Dont care. Intel thread. no wan talk AMD(Another Massive Disaster).
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post Jun 5 2012, 12:33 PM

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Got myself an ASUS P8ZZ7-VLX board and i3 2120. Got some questions.

I am playing around with the Lucid thing, it works with my discrete GTX-460. However, the claims of power consumption reduce when using the IGP is not true...i get the same power reading either using IGP or PCIE mode (when only using 2D, websurfing etc, no 3D games running)....or is it the power saving only works with Ivy Bridge processor??? i3 2120 is SAndy bridge.
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post Jun 5 2012, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 5 2012, 01:10 PM)
It doesn't need that many. In fact it is less efficient to have too many and number of VRMs in use will still be in the increasing order instead of using all VRMs at the same time with lower load. To some, it is nothing more than a marketing tool similar to more cores = more performance.
Your GTX460 will still consume a bit of power at idle to keep it running unlike AMD's ZeroCore, depending on the power gating feature that was implemented for that particular generation. The only benefit you'll gain is that your GTX460 will ramp up less, it will not have a usage spike which reduces power consumption but too little to even bother, most of the workload you've placed during the test is not GPU intensive in any way. You'll have to remove the GTX460 physically to actually see some actual difference in power usage.
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That's the whole idea lor...to get it to pump up when in use while in 2D mode, the IGP suppose to kick in while the discrete GPU is sleeping. This is what was said about the Lucid technology, you can find this info at Lucid website and other reviews.

But overall, it still use less power than my old C2D platform....smile.gif...currently idle is around 78W. If no discrete GPU installed, about 55W-60W. Last time my old C2D idele also around 115W or more....once on load...goes to 250W tops...now max usually around 150W!!!

The reason i concerned about power is this rig for downloading 24/7 and to play games...so when not playing games, target to use as little power as possible. For most part, the objective is met 90% lor....if idle can drop to 60W, then perfect!!!


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post Jun 5 2012, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Boldnut @ Jun 5 2012, 03:45 PM)
to be honest having a separate rig like E-350 probably better than using same one if u are really pushing for power saving.

I have my 2500K + GTX570 as gaming rig while my E-350 do all the downloading stuff. E-350 platform can hit as low as 20w for the entire system.
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I want one PC only...previously doing just that...kepala pusing-pusing switching the monitor or remote access...sienz...now only want one PC. One PC to rule them all!!!

Btw, the E-350W can do 20W?? No lar...i3 is lowest...

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/displ...3-2100t_11.html

I am talking TOTAL SYSTEM POWER CONSUMPTION at the wall...not just processor. I test with power meter at the wall socket. smile.gif

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post Jun 5 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 5 2012, 04:03 PM)
It did work as stated as your discrete GPU will not have any spikes in usage because most of the work is done by the IGP. IF difference is small then it is within the margin of error. You can't expect miracles because the GTX460 needs power to idle as well.

If you have the money, it would be a lot better to build a separate downloading rig as stated by Boldnut. You'll save more power that way and your maintenance interval for your main rig is reduced because you no longer need to keep it up 24/7. Your main rig would definitely have a lot of fans which leads to more dust. A separate E-350 rig can run almost passively.
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Where got mang...idle...both also around 78W regardless i plug into the IGP or Discrete GPU. Like i said, sienz multiple PC...and i don't want to waste money on another rig....looking foward to buy a hard disk enclosure to dump all my hard disk instead...smile.gif
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QUOTE(dma0991 @ Jun 5 2012, 06:15 PM)
Lucid Virtu is not something that completely turns off the discrete GPU, it doesn't work like that. Lets just say that the discrete GPU needs about 10W to idle. Even if you switched to the IGP, the discrete GPU will still need about 10W to idle. That is why you don't see the difference till you remove the discrete GPU physically, since there is no discrete GPU to power it at idle, you get less power consumption. That is Fermi's power gating method or almost any GPU till this point will never have 0W power consumption at idle because it doesn't turn off like a light bulb.

You'll only see the power savings when you apply some GPU intensive load to the IGP. Most browsers these days got GPU acceleration and when you compare a IGP vs discrete GPU at certain load necessary to do that GPU intensive task, the IGP will sip less power. You don't measure the power savings of the IGP by comparing IGP versus discrete GPU at idle because both will be the same as mentioned in my first paragraph. You have to test it with some load.
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Thanks for the very informative tips! Will test it out when i have time. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 6 2012, 09:55 AM

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Wolverine??? I smell Marvel rage and suing ASUS.....ASUS been ripping trademark starting with the Transformer Prime thingy.....
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post Jun 10 2012, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(JustForFun @ Jun 10 2012, 10:21 AM)
Wait for Euro bankrupt then USD will drop again

Of course praying for that is pathetic
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Then Malaysia follow bankrup and the price is 10x.
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post Jun 11 2012, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(Smithmaster @ Jun 11 2012, 03:50 PM)
100-1000

4usb 3.0 and 8 usb 2.0 if in io is what i want.. Not the mid-board things
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Most board has 4 x USB 3.0...2 at the back, another 2 on the board...just buy the connectors.
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post Jun 11 2012, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(Smithmaster @ Jun 11 2012, 03:52 PM)
I have already mention that in io i want to have minimum 4usb 3.0 and 4usb 2.0 which the sabertooth has...
What other option is possible..
I want it to be on the back cuz standard sure got alot of of usb on board...
Get it??
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Who the heck understand your weird term...just say 4usb 3.0 at back panel lar...what 'in io'....doh.gif...and you can get a bracket at the rear to hook it to the back...still get 4 x USB 3.0...get it???
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post Jun 14 2012, 11:58 PM

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QUOTE(MazeLoL @ Jun 14 2012, 01:23 PM)
Guys,

Performance wise,What the different between i7 2600k and i7 3770k??

Because i saw my friend rig's was using i7 3770k render a 3D to image in Sketchup Twilight had 5x progressive render in 5 minutes.

As for me (i7 2600k) was only capable of doing 2x - 3x time progressive render in 5 minutes.

Both had 16GB G.Skill ram different only the mobo which is Z68 V-Pro and Z77 V-Pro and He was using SSD and i m NOT... izzit that Virtu Luciq is messes up ??

So anyone can give a clue?

Do note that twilight is a 32-bit system so basically it just use 4gb ram + only and both rig was OC to 4.2ghz
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Most likely his CPU+SSD (speed up temp files generation) which beats your system. Nothing you can do. And nothing to do with Virtu....processing 3D renders usually relies on CPU rather than GPU unless your software support certain stuff like Nvidia CUDA/ ATI Stream or something.
btw, 32-bit apps can only use 2GB max in each instance.
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post Jun 17 2012, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(ketapang @ Jun 16 2012, 10:47 PM)
Never think of that b4. But i do think what if something goes wrong to the built-in wifi. The last thing i would want is rma mobo just because wifi gone wrong..
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Plug in a new USB or PCI/PCI-E adapter lar. What's so difficult?? doh.gif
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post Jun 17 2012, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(ketapang @ Jun 17 2012, 07:54 PM)
What's the point im buying built-in wifi mobo if i just replace it when the wifi rosak? laugh.gif

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So scare rosak no need to use. Put it in museum in a vacuum box.
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post Jun 29 2012, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(tesh94 @ Jun 28 2012, 10:21 PM)
any cheap z77 board support cf and sli ?
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If you can afford to SLI AND CFX...you can't afford to be cheap....hehe...make sense??? biggrin.gif

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