Common Kelvin White Balance Settings : 2500K - very strong orange tungsten light 2800K - strong orange tungsten light 3200K - yellowish tungsten light 4500K M6 - flourescent light (most flourescent tubes are green even though our eyes don't see it) 5500K - flash 6500K - daylight (or daylight-balanced flourescent light) 9900K - strong blue stage lighting or evening light
Xenon lighting is rare but that should be between 7000-9000K.
Whenever you enter a new situation that has different WB, just set your Kelvin WB again and test with one shot. You
should be able to do this with practice.
With the Sony A300 and A350, you can use Live View and see the effect of changing Kelvin WB... live!
M = Magenta G = Green 2500K = Blue 9900K = Amber
Take a picture. Supposing the picture is very Green, you need to add the opposite which is Magenta. If the picture is
too Blue you need to go closer to Amber. So if the picture is very blue-green-ish, you will need to go closer to 9900K
M9.
To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
New APS-C / DT Crop Lenses -------------------------------
Sony 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 DT = RM20xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA = RM25xx Sony 16-105mm F3.5-5.6 DT = RM16xx Sony 18-250mm F3.5-6.3 DT = RM16xx Sony 50mm F1.8 DT SAM = RM5xx Sigma 50-150mm F2.8 EX DC HSM Macro = RM30xx
New Full-Frame Lenses ---------------------------
Sony 16mm F2.8 Diagonal Fisheye = RM25xx Sony 20mm F2.8 = RM19xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA = RM54xx Sony 24-105mm F3.5-4.5 = RM18xx Sony 28mm F2.8 = RM8xx Sony 35mm F1.4G = RM45xx Sony 50mm F1.4 = RM10xx Sony 50mm F2.8 Macro = RM14xx Tamron 70-200mm F2.8 Macro = RM30xx Sigma 70-200mm F2.8 EX DG HSM Macro = RM38xx Sony 70-200mm F2.8G SSM = RM54xx Sony 70-300mm F4.5-5.6G SSM = RM25xx Sony 70-400mm F4-5.6G SSM = RM54xx Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA = RM50xx Sony 100mm F2.8 Macro = RM23xx Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA = RM48xx Sony 135mm F2.8/T4.5 Smooth Transition Focus = RM36xx Sony 500mm F8.0 AF Reflex = RM25xx Sony 300mm F2.8G SSM = RM20xxx Sony 1.4x Teleconverter = RM15xx Sony 2.0x Teleconverter = RM15xx
This post has been edited by amadeo: Oct 28 2009, 02:40 PM
taken at Grand Indonesia's Food Court. Their food court is the best i've seen so far:
p.s: taken hand-held and on waist length coz photography is prohibited there. so pardon for the lousy compo and noise. and this 1 taken at Blok M, Jakarta. Shot this blindly coz photography is prohibited here too:
i enquired from boeng...CZ 16- 80...even 5 units ...rm2499
i remember last time , there's 3 of us hunting for whole new set of Alpha plus other acc. like flash the shop hardly give us any discount except add-in cheapo small small goodies only
QUOTE(amadeo @ Oct 27 2009, 08:24 PM)
price list updated.. but yesterday my friend called Zaloon, they said body only can give ±RM2.75k
i enquired from boeng...CZ 16- 80...even 5 units ...rm2499
wow thats too expensive... i PM zaloon but they haven get back to me... u guys know mutt frm LYN... he is selling all sorts of lens and the best price he can give for cz1680 is RM2320... let me ask him if got 3 units can he go lower...
Thanks guys for the RAW PP demos, especialy ahchew It will give me a good long tutorial before reaching that level of PP Is it me, or RAW and JPEG by the camera is not exactly the same (i shoot RAW+JPEG, and my JPEG looks more Vivid)?
pic spam for v33 *no additional PP except watermark n noiseninja sharperning
This post has been edited by e-jump: Oct 27 2009, 09:18 PM
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wow thats too expensive... i PM zaloon but they haven get back to me... u guys know mutt frm LYN... he is selling all sorts of lens and the best price he can give for cz1680 is RM2320... let me ask him if got 3 units can he go lower...
2320 is very good price.. even sony staff purchase is 2328 + 20 (shipping)...
Thanks guys for the RAW PP demos, especialy ahchew It will give me a good long tutorial before reaching that level of PP Is it me, or RAW and JPEG by the camera is not exactly the same (i shoot RAW+JPEG, and my JPEG looks more Vivid)?
pic spam for v33 *no additional PP except watermark n noiseninja sharperning
nicely done... love it.. but should apply some highlight recovery.. give abit of detail to the back... but, nice composure & pose...
weixuan, like your #2 and #3 one! Very nice color! Why don't get a550 and cz1680 from wcs? RM4750 for both in the same time upgrade your body? That means u got your cz at rm2000.
This post has been edited by 5564321: Oct 27 2009, 10:42 PM
Achew, Should bring forward ur CZ samples from V32 to here on first page A new beginning!
QUOTE(Kul | Mo0 @ Oct 27 2009, 09:11 PM)
Seems like everyone getting CZ dy. Now holding a 1680 nothing special dy. Must upgrade to 2470. LOL.
I love the Huge diameter of the 2470... Looks Woaa GOOD on big bodies.. ..Tats Aesthetic comment.. IQ cant comment.... no chance to own one.
Just now cant resist go to The curve Sony again to try the MS10 AGAIN!!!... This time i try to transfer Everything from my current bag to that bag... Once fill up it is so compact n feel so good... BUT...end up not buying... because it fail to fit in my A5 Notebook (not laptop, paper 1) which i need to bring everywher i go... Checkout the nice camera leather stripe... but find it TOO HARD!!!
Leaving the curve with hands empty.. YEAH..!
QUOTE(e-jump @ Oct 27 2009, 09:17 PM)
Thanks guys for the RAW PP demos, especialy ahchew It will give me a good long tutorial before reaching that level of PP Is it me, or RAW and JPEG by the camera is not exactly the same (i shoot RAW+JPEG, and my JPEG looks more Vivid)?
pic spam for v33 *no additional PP except watermark n noiseninja sharperning
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tammy1750 F2.8. cropped 1:1 (not resized), no PP.
Ahahah.. Happy with the Sharpness? hm.. mayb i should start posting Tammy 1750 F2.8 photos too... but no much photo yet... previously taken all cannot be used...
weixuan, like your #2 and #3 one! Very nice color! Why don't get a550 and cz1680 from wcs? RM4750 for both in the same time upgrade your body? That means u got your cz at rm2000.
i got the 1680 last month... now am so broke that i have no extra money for A550 ... probably will only get it next year
Yup, Uncle Chin confirmed the price to be RM2750 (still can nego if you are seriously buying) when I was there on Sat....
Darn it.... choices.... do i...
1. Sell off my A300, and top up RM1700 for the A550 body??
or
2. Get the WX1 at RM1200....
get the A550 if you need the better high ISO (3200,6400, 12800!!), or the 7 FPS (machine gun!!), the better screen, the bigger viewfinder or the manual LV check.
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(clivengu @ Oct 27 2009, 11:02 PM)
Ahahah.. Happy with the Sharpness? hm.. mayb i should start posting Tammy 1750 F2.8 photos too... but no much photo yet... previously taken all cannot be used...
yes, the sharpness is wayyyyyyyy sharp... i am going to start a free sony focus calibration for people of MIRI. help those who gotten bad calibration unit due to the shipment handling from JPN to SG to port Klang to Sonywarehouse to port klang again, to kuching, to miri... wow... long journey~ could get back the sharpness they suppose to have.
Added on October 27, 2009, 11:19 pm
QUOTE(achew @ Oct 27 2009, 11:16 PM)
find it familiar??all the shots were taken at ur current place bro
no wonder la.. the sunlight cast is so different,... malaysia sun is too harse... easily overexpose/burnout everything..
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 27 2009, 11:19 PM
yes, the sharpness is wayyyyyyyy sharp... i am going to start a free sony focus calibration for people of MIRI. help those who gotten bad calibration unit due to the shipment handling from JPN to SG to port Klang to Sonywarehouse to port klang again, to kuching, to miri... wow... long journey~ could get back the sharpness they suppose to have.
Added on October 27, 2009, 11:19 pm
no wonder la.. the sunlight cast is so different,... malaysia sun is too harse... easily overexpose/burnout everything..
Wow GREAT.. i oso feel that every owner should know bout the calibration... UNLEASED THE POTENTIAL!!!
I think Achew means "korea" since ur avatar shows that u r from KOREA!! not sarawak.. haha
Joined: Jan 2003
From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
i know i been to korea too, everything u shoot there, the bg color sure match ur model very well. and the shadow cast by the face or human, are softer there
*edit: even people under the shed also expose well with the background, here malaysia, under shed is well underexpose
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 27 2009, 11:28 PM
yes, the sharpness is wayyyyyyyy sharp... i am going to start a free sony focus calibration for people of MIRI. help those who gotten bad calibration unit due to the shipment handling from JPN to SG to port Klang to Sonywarehouse to port klang again, to kuching, to miri... wow... long journey~ could get back the sharpness they suppose to have.
Added on October 27, 2009, 11:19 pm
no wonder la.. the sunlight cast is so different,... malaysia sun is too harse... easily overexpose/burnout everything..
yup max..or maybe just 2k if just 2k which should i buy??
Are you looking for new units or old units?
If new, then A230 twin lens or A330 single lens will be nice...
If used, i would recommend A300 + single (or twin) + flash (F42 or F58).... hunt arnd, u shld be able to get all them within 2-2.5 (depends if u get single or twin and which flash)...
Read the Garage Sales, or WTS section in Alphanatics.
after looking through the pricing for the cz and tamron, its double the pricing.. so considering, under budget.. clive.. cepat.. pioson us with the tamron 17-50f2.8.. CZ its too expensive to be poisoned ler..
yes, the sharpness is wayyyyyyyy sharp... i am going to start a free sony focus calibration for people of MIRI. help those who gotten bad calibration unit due to the shipment handling from JPN to SG to port Klang to Sonywarehouse to port klang again, to kuching, to miri... wow... long journey~ could get back the sharpness they suppose to have.
U mean manual re-calibration following the guide from Dyxum ?? I wanna try mine later..
finally get my sony a200 twin kits + f42 for only 1.6k. but the seller told me that the pic has some kind of dust in pic?its confirm not fungus. may i know where can i service it and how much?
Its not that hard to use, u just need to know the characteristics of the Raynox.
U have to set it to manual focus, then infinity. You need to shift yr body to get clear pic as the magnification with 55200 is really really good and sharp. (need to find where i parked my few macro shots).
Ensure you have enuff lighting (flash gun preferred) as you need as much light as possible thru the Raynox into the sensors. And having a tripod helps a lot with any macro shots.
shoot this while waiting for man utd match...found out the atmosphere i had in mind wasnt really created..but my soccer match already started 1/2 way..hehe..so lazy to shoot again =p
iso200 1/30 F2.8 90mm table lamp(warm) snooted on danbo torch light(cold) snooted on trooper no flash used
fuyoo.. poadster.. im tempted to get ur raynox.. but i keep thinking, the way we try to shoot during the TT, the bug fly di lorr.. i keep shooting myself for not testing the raynox on every lens thaat day, i only tried it on my 75-300.. didnt get to test it on the kitties and the 55-200.. i got distracted by the 50mm..
achew, ur sp90, i notice u use it for portrait as well.. how does it fare? i mean it is 90mm.. there has to be some distance between u and the subject i suppose?
Its not that hard to use, u just need to know the characteristics of the Raynox.
U have to set it to manual focus, then infinity. You need to shift yr body to get clear pic as the magnification with 55200 is really really good and sharp. (need to find where i parked my few macro shots).
Ensure you have enuff lighting (flash gun preferred) as you need as much light as possible thru the Raynox into the sensors. And having a tripod helps a lot with any macro shots.
I've loved macro-ing with Raynox and pair-ed it with my lx3. But cjlai's macro is totally different level. This week will get a flash gun (hopefully can find good deal ) and try it with Raynox + 55200. One question : The flash gun is pointed directed to the bug or bounce it?
>< 1680 CZ...woah, heavy poison... btw, any recommendation for nice zoom lense? :3 plan to try panning with it rather than using kitty...
cheap zoom, u can try SAL55200 .. around RM400 2nd hand or around RM680 new... expensive one, u can try either SAL70200G = RM5550 or SAL70300G = RM2550
SAL70200G is a constant f2.8 lens and it's white.. and SAL70300G is not constant aperture.. (f4.5-5.6)
constant 2.8, ....jz the same as canon 70200 L hmm...did tat 16105 can serve as zoom lense as well?cz i check...quite alot good review abt the sharpness n etc...
lanusb: Face Detection adjusts WB, exposure and focus. Yes it tracks faces automatically.
SHOfrE3zE: Welcome back! Sometimes I like how nice blind angles turn out to be.
amadeo: Got RM2650 for the A550 body only at one shop. So you can put RM27xx for any shop lah.
SiLVeRClIdGe: No, the A230/A330/A380 cannot use the VG-B30AM.
Uzumaki NaruTo: Nice hairlight!
Kul | Mo0: The Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA is the rarest of them ZAs. It's also the only Planar (flat focus field) and yet ironically brighter than the Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA, Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA, Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA and Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA (Sonnar means bright).
e-jump: Aiya, forgot to try! Yes, you need to enhance your colors in the RAW processor as it does not understand Sony Creative Style settings.
If you can make 2 exposures, you can pull out extra color tones from her hair and face.
Hair = bluegreen = mostly blue and green channels. So if you make your WB more reddish (nearer to 9900K) it could look more 3D (but may go in the opposite direction of the art.)
Face = orange = mostly red and green channels. So if you make your WB colder (nearer to 2500K) her lips will be tonally 'further' away from her skin and more distinct.
These 2 exposures can then be merged, using either layer as a layer mask, inverted where necessary. That said the current picture already has a very nice color balance, but if you want more tones out of it, I've just told you what you can do!
weixuan: Love #2!
achew: I would crop it tighter; chop off 1/3rd off the left, and 1/3rd off the right.
hkhk: Some filters can reduce contrast. Also show us some pictures! I find the Zeiss lenses to be contrasty no matter where you go, even in soft ambient low light.
Zeiss 135mm F1.8 1/5s ISO6400
Zeiss 135mm F1.8 1/5s ISO6400 (most of the light is candlelight bounced off walls)
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 35mm F2.4 (M42)
The captions say it all.
mcline_007: Don't bother with the Minolta 28-80mm F3.5-5.6; it is not an upgrade from your Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT. It certainly does not do much better at portraits. The light stand/umbrella adapter/flash shoe can be gotten at Digicolor, Mutiara Complex, around Batu 4 of Jalan Ipoh.
mcline_007: Don't bother with the Minolta 28-80mm F3.5-5.6; it is not an upgrade from your Sony 18-70mm F3.5-5.6 DT. It certainly does not do much better at portraits. The light stand/umbrella adapter/flash shoe can be gotten at Digicolor, Mutiara Complex, around Batu 4 of Jalan Ipoh.
thanks buddy
Added on October 28, 2009, 12:02 pm
QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Oct 28 2009, 11:55 AM)
woah.. i smell studio!!
This post has been edited by mcline_007: Oct 28 2009, 12:02 PM
Kul | Mo0: The Sony Carl Zeiss Planar T* 85mm F1.4 ZA is the rarest of them ZAs. It's also the only Planar (flat focus field) and yet ironically brighter than the Sony Carl Zeiss Sonnar T* 135mm F1.8 ZA, Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT ZA, Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 16-35mm F2.8 SSM ZA and Sony Carl Zeiss Vario-Sonnar T* 24-70mm F2.8 SSM ZA (Sonnar means bright).
constant 2.8, ....jz the same as canon 70200 L hmm...did tat 16105 can serve as zoom lense as well?cz i check...quite alot good review abt the sharpness n etc...
the SAL16105 serve me very well....u can check my travel blog for the photo
tjq: It is rare as in, very few people buy it, compared to the Zeiss 16-80mm F3.5-4.5 DT, 135mm F1.8 and 24-70mm F2.8 SSM. Not many people understand 85mm, but it's a great lens on both APS-C and full-frame.
countdracula: Flat focus field meaning when you face a flat surface, all of the surface is evenly in focus.
A lot of lenses have curved focus fields, meaning the focus to the side is slightly shifted. This might annoy some people.
I really having hard time in snaping picture indoor-ly and nighttime, the pics are so blur and when ppl moving, all also blur, how to solve this issue ya? I using A100 with stock lens and stock flash
This is a shot during morning 6.30am from my house balcony.
I really having hard time in snaping picture indoor-ly and nighttime, the pics are so blur and when ppl moving, all also blur, how to solve this issue ya? I using A100 with stock lens and stock flash
..
Time to get external flash gun bro. even better pair it up with some prime lens. It'll make a good people shooting setup.
This post has been edited by Uzumaki NaruTo: Oct 28 2009, 02:10 PM
I really having hard time in snaping picture indoor-ly and nighttime, the pics are so blur and when ppl moving, all also blur, how to solve this issue ya? I using A100 with stock lens and stock flash
This is a shot during morning 6.30am from my house balcony.
get a flash..it makes lotsa diff....bright lenses help alot too..altho not as much as flash..
yeah.. using external flashgun will improve ur picture indore a looooooooooooooooooooooot more than on-camera flash.. it can bring wonders to ur pics.. with external flash u can bounce left, right, up, back .. use diffusers and wireless flash summore..
yes yes...agree.....ext flash helps alot...even with kit lens, picture quality can improve alot...hehehehehe....i experienced tat...but a bright aperture lens, will help further...like the tammy 17-50 F2.8....hahahahahah....
Added on October 28, 2009, 4:06 pmYes, guys btw....my batt in the ext flash (F58) runs out quite fast....usually it only last about 200++ shots...why ar? I am using alkaline batts.....
This post has been edited by Melv: Oct 28 2009, 04:06 PM
yes yes...agree.....ext flash helps alot...even with kit lens, picture quality can improve alot...hehehehehe....i experienced tat...but a bright aperture lens, will help further...like the tammy 17-50 F2.8....hahahahahah....
Added on October 28, 2009, 4:06 pmYes, guys btw....my batt in the ext flash (F58) runs out quite fast....usually it only last about 200++ shots...why ar? I am using alkaline batts.....
im using the sony quick rechargable, uncle chin recommended me that.. last me around 450 - 500 shots?
I only use alkaline batteries for backup power only coz it cannot last long... recycle time also very slow for continous shoot... u got to use rechargeable batteries with high mAh rating and from reputable brand.. currently i'm using Maha PowerEx 2700mAh NiMH Rechargeable AA Batteries.. can tahan a lot.. using flash for the whole day wedding shoot also still not finish..
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
using maha imedion, one charge can last me about 600++ shot on F58, also it's firepower dependent, if u shoot at high ceiling, maybe it last till 500++, if fire at 1/16 most of the time, it last up to 800 shots
sony sanyo..blablabla..all same..coz all OEM from sanyo...lol...so basically inside is the same..only labeling diff..
Wah like tat wan ar? Doesnt matter la....as long as rechrg batts....the ting is i got few other thing in my 'list' rdy....so adding this, haiaaahhhhhhh......already burn a big hole in the pocket afta getting lens and flash....
i think i bought it pretty cheap in singapore...30~40sgd...4batt + charger + from freebies + delivery...not sure the price in msia tho... but batt..aiya..ok la..it just cost roughly like ur uv filter...lol..compare to those 1k~6k lenses...whats the big deal
hahahahahahaha.......yes yes! simply ni ma....
Added on October 28, 2009, 6:32 pm
QUOTE(soket @ Oct 28 2009, 06:19 PM)
me flash gun pun takda
HOW COME??????? .....lol! Just kidding....u shud get a flash gun fasssttttttttt......the cobra is awesomeeee!
This post has been edited by Melv: Oct 28 2009, 06:32 PM
flash should be ur priority.. it helps a lot when taking pictures indoors and not brightly lit places.. cobra around RM1.1k ... even bright f1.7 lens cannot help when taking indoor pics.. u try then u know..
Hi..im still a noob with taking photo and i wanna buy an external flash for my aunties wedding reception..My bdgt is around rm600 n i c dat dis 2 flash fits my bdgt Metz 36AF-4AF and Sunpak PZ42X TTL auto..which one of this flash is better and why?(like answering SPM paper..hehe)
see who says kitlens sucks...hmm i have one i wanna post up too.. .kitlens at a function that me and my buddy was paid to cover... oh yea..for those who wanna make their lives easier in windows VISTA...google PRISH RESIZER... ....just sharing stuff ive picked up...
pss...for the photo with the fire...it seemed weird at first but the camera actually picked up .... AIR....the heated air flow around the fire distorts light...funky...plus i didnt have much equipment to work with..just a built in flash...(wish i had a f42 then.. )
This post has been edited by braindead_fr3ak: Oct 28 2009, 10:01 PM
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Oct 28 2009, 09:11 PM)
see who says kitlens sucks...hmm i have one i wanna post up too.. .kitlens at a function that me and my buddy was paid to cover... oh yea..for those who wanna make their live easier in windows VISTA...google PRISH RESIZER... ....just sharing stuff ive picked up... pss...for the photo with the fire...it seemed weird at first but the camera actually picked up .... AIR....the heated air flow around the fire distorts light...funky...plus i didnt have much equipment to work with..just a built in flash...(wish i had a f42 then.. )
i been looking for the powertoys resizer for window vista for many months, THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! now i easy resize and upload
Just recently i really go into detail n check how my flashgun actually works n how to control it...(i seldom played with it cause if outside, too much flashing could irritates ppl especially in cafe etc)
.. I want to ask...If im to use Wireless Flash... I hv my pop up flash on.. Sync with my F42... then Okey it fires... I can control the Power of the F42 manually.. but is there a way to control the power of my Pop up Flash. I always find the pop up flash is annoying powerful. I used to think the Flash compesation in d camera controls the power of pop up flash, but i'll hv to manually adjust my F42 power for it to do so...If let the Flash/camera to decide the F42 power.. i'll hv no control over the pop up flash...is getting a bit confusing here.. er.. get wat i mean? mayb there r still many things i dont understand...
Just recently i really go into detail n check how my flashgun actually works n how to control it...(i seldom played with it cause if outside, too much flashing could irritates ppl especially in cafe etc)
.. I want to ask...If im to use Wireless Flash... I hv my pop up flash on.. Sync with my F42... then Okey it fires... I can control the Power of the F42 manually.. but is there a way to control the power of my Pop up Flash. I always find the pop up flash is annoying powerful. I used to think the Flash compesation in d camera controls the power of pop up flash, but i'll hv to manually adjust my F42 power for it to do so...If let the Flash/camera to decide the F42 power.. i'll hv no control over the pop up flash...is getting a bit confusing here.. er.. get wat i mean? mayb there r still many things i dont understand...
You could get a pop up flash diffuser . Or set the flash power lower in menu, try search for it. For me I'd go for diffuser. Just gotten my Lambency, the amber(orange) dome is so bad and awkward when used. It doesn't warm up the picture instead adding orange color to it. I should get Demb Flash Diffuser when I got enough money...
Is 50mm 1.8 SAM ideal for portrait? Going to get it soon..
This post has been edited by 5564321: Oct 28 2009, 10:16 PM
Just recently i really go into detail n check how my flashgun actually works n how to control it...(i seldom played with it cause if outside, too much flashing could irritates ppl especially in cafe etc)
.. I want to ask...If im to use Wireless Flash... I hv my pop up flash on.. Sync with my F42... then Okey it fires... I can control the Power of the F42 manually.. but is there a way to control the power of my Pop up Flash. I always find the pop up flash is annoying powerful. I used to think the Flash compesation in d camera controls the power of pop up flash, but i'll hv to manually adjust my F42 power for it to do so...If let the Flash/camera to decide the F42 power.. i'll hv no control over the pop up flash...is getting a bit confusing here.. er.. get wat i mean? mayb there r still many things i dont understand...
there is a tip at the 1st page of this thread regarding this matter..
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To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
This post has been edited by hafeez71: Oct 28 2009, 10:17 PM
You could get a pop up flash diffuser . Or set the flash power lower in menu, try search for it. For me I'd go for diffuser. Just gotten my Lambency, the amber(orange) dome is so bad and awkward when used. It doesn't warm up the picture instead adding orange color to it. I should get Demb Flash Diffuser when I got enough money...
Is 50mm 1.8 SAM ideal for portrait? Going to get it soon..
I think the 50mm is a nice potrait lens. Some prefer 85mm or above. Is the Lambency diffuser really that bad? I was about to get one myself but cant find the one tat fit my F42 yet. They say is best to shoot potrait oh.. Demb flash diffuser look like how?
QUOTE(hafeez71 @ Oct 28 2009, 10:16 PM)
there is a tip at the 1st page of this thread regarding this matter..
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To prevent the built-in flash from appearing in pictures when in wireless flash mode, you can use any of these
methods, or a combination of them:
- use a darker aperture (e.g. F11) - use a lower ISO (e.g. ISO100) - use a shutter speed faster than your flash sync speed so that High Speed Sync is activated (e.g. 1/320th of a
second) - use a piece of exposed, developed negative film in front of your pop-up flash
But then I do wan to have environment ambience light & lower Iso/ darker aperture will make these go away... creating black background... If shooting on a studio setting that rely on 1-2 flashgun then the power of pop up flash will surely gone. So there is no direct way to control the pop up flash right? hv to use negative film /popup flash diffuser..
I think the 50mm is a nice potrait lens. Some prefer 85mm or above. Is the Lambency diffuser really that bad? I was about to get one myself but cant find the one tat fit my F42 yet. They say is best to shoot potrait oh.. Demb flash diffuser look like how? But then I do wan to have environment ambience light & lower Iso/ darker aperture will make these go away... creating black background... If shooting on a studio setting that rely on 1-2 flashgun then the power of pop up flash will surely gone. So there is no direct way to control the pop up flash right? hv to use negative film /popup flash diffuser..
if that the case...u really need a diffuser for the pop up
I think the 50mm is a nice potrait lens. Some prefer 85mm or above. Is the Lambency diffuser really that bad? I was about to get one myself but cant find the one tat fit my F42 yet. They say is best to shoot potrait oh.. Demb flash diffuser look like how? But then I do wan to have environment ambience light & lower Iso/ darker aperture will make these go away... creating black background... If shooting on a studio setting that rely on 1-2 flashgun then the power of pop up flash will surely gone. So there is no direct way to control the pop up flash right? hv to use negative film /popup flash diffuser..
May be I haven't discover the potential of it yet The size of it is really big . Haha, might get it soon. Octopus Pop up flash diffuser<<try this one(good thing is it support alpha flash hot shoe). The normal method I used is using my hand to block the flash. Suddenly I'm so excited about flash photography. I thought Lambency which fit 430EX should fit F42 as well? Some one clarify this...
This post has been edited by 5564321: Oct 28 2009, 10:35 PM
see who says kitlens sucks...hmm i have one i wanna post up too.. .kitlens at a function that me and my buddy was paid to cover... oh yea..for those who wanna make their lives easier in windows VISTA...google PRISH RESIZER... ....just sharing stuff ive picked up... pss...for the photo with the fire...it seemed weird at first but the camera actually picked up .... AIR....the heated air flow around the fire distorts light...funky...plus i didnt have much equipment to work with..just a built in flash...(wish i had a f42 then.. )
note to people using prish resizer, it is good.. can resize in an instant to upload on fb or twitter.. BUT it lowers down the pics quality sooooooooo much, that it looks like a cheepo cam shot.. <- at least thats what i get lar.. not sharp any more laar.. uploading pics on flickr with that quality also paiseh.. lol.. i keep thinking my kitties suck.. but its actually, the details are abit gone..
So in conclusion to me lar, (you guys can have some input in as well ..) uploading pics on fb, u want a quick resize, can useee.. but if u wanna keep ur details, ur better off doing it manually..
edit: typos
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Oct 28 2009, 11:49 PM
lildaredevil : yes..i noticed that about the prish resizer..but its great for uploading to forums.....and the low quality is an added bonus coz then people who love to SAPU other pplz work of the net cant get proper photos.......because even if u watermark..most ppl watermark at the lower regions or extermities which can be cropped....so ..ahaks...
also it depends on your original JPEG which u compress.. my original for the photo was 5.7 mb....which was a jpeg converted from RAW...so in my opinion...the noise level increased slightly but the rest is fine..
May be I haven't discover the potential of it yet The size of it is really big . Haha, might get it soon. Octopus Pop up flash diffuser<<try this one(good thing is it support alpha flash hot shoe). The normal method I used is using my hand to block the flash. Suddenly I'm so excited about flash photography. I thought Lambency which fit 430EX should fit F42 as well? Some one clarify this...
Thats wat i usually did. block it off with my hand... but is so inconvenient especially without assistant.. i hv one hand holding my camera another hand holding the F42 from the side.. then no hand to block the pop up flash..look like i need Flash stand... (got such thing tat can hold sony flash?)
QUOTE(soket @ Oct 28 2009, 11:58 PM)
oo i always forgot bout tat forum tyty
btw, last sat i was playing wit a100, how come the pic taken abit dark eventho EV at 0? it was lwliam a100
Ahhh.. look like William A100 has been inherit to you... Try changing ur metering mode.... mayb u r using Spot n focus on smthing bright?
Thats wat i usually did. block it off with my hand... but is so inconvenient especially without assistant.. i hv one hand holding my camera another hand holding the F42 from the side.. then no hand to block the pop up flash..look like i need Flash stand... (got such thing tat can hold sony flash?) Ahhh.. look like William A100 has been inherit to you... Try changing ur metering mode.... mayb u r using Spot n focus on smthing bright?
haha. im not the 1 bought the dslr but i was the 1 giving the info bout william having extra a100
my sis took the a200 so hav to pinjam from my fren the a100.
i took few shots of the same scene. up to +1 EV. still look abit dark. forgot wat metering i was using. camera not wit me now. maybe later i post some of the pics
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QUOTE(lildaredevil906 @ Oct 28 2009, 11:49 PM)
note to people using prish resizer, it is good.. can resize in an instant to upload on fb or twitter.. BUT it lowers down the pics quality sooooooooo much, that it looks like a cheepo cam shot.. <- at least thats what i get lar.. not sharp any more laar.. uploading pics on flickr with that quality also paiseh.. lol.. i keep thinking my kitties suck.. but its actually, the details are abit gone..
So in conclusion to me lar, (you guys can have some input in as well ..) uploading pics on fb, u want a quick resize, can useee.. but if u wanna keep ur details, ur better off doing it manually..
edit: typos
u can set the quality to 100% (less compression).... but i usually use 85% where it has less noticeable compression noise... but still noticable if u are pixel peeper, but trust me, a good photographer will critic/comment on ur composition, not ur compression result.
*edit: wahhh, i fell in love with prish resizer, isnt he the same author as the powertoys resizer?
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 29 2009, 12:41 AM
yea...hehhee..glad u like it...its SUPER convenient! hahahahah ...i dont know about the author...i got this program like 5-6 months back when i upgraded from xp...dem frus coz vista din hv power tools...
most ppl will know that photos uploaded to internet will have additional noise wan...but a good photo is a good photo
So there is no direct way to control the pop up flash right? hv to use negative film /popup flash diffuser..
Go to Menu, u can set the Flash Compensation to -2. This will lower the power of the pop up yet can still trigger the wireless.
To lower the power more, get the pop up diffuser. It works very well on the pop up flash, for times where yr flash is batt dead....
Added on October 29, 2009, 1:02 am
QUOTE(5564321 @ Oct 28 2009, 10:34 PM)
I thought Lambency which fit 430EX should fit F42 as well? Some one clarify this...
The 430EX size does not fit the F42 very snugly, there are much loose space for it to fit nicely. I have tried both stofen and lambency type. Ended up buying the cloth with internal reflected type from Uncle Chin - Studio Zaloon.
This post has been edited by Poadster: Oct 29 2009, 01:02 AM
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QUOTE(Tainted @ Oct 29 2009, 01:17 AM)
Just got a sony a200 last few weeks. New user here. Pls enlighten me on taking photos.
Im having difficulty taking night shots, could someone enlighten me here. What aperture and shutter speed?
i would say, ALL camera under rm6k, would have trouble shooting night shots... (except A550! revolution! rm2999 only, come come upgrade~ spread the poison~ okay kidding), your best shot is to grab a flashgun. once u get a flash gun, whatever lens u going to own,purchase or free gift, will benefit from the flash
apperture, u always need as wide as possible, F1.4 is the widest in sony market. SS determine the motion blur of subject, the faster the better, but u need it to balance out the exposure, ur last option is to pump up iso to 3200 or higher...
but if u started to add layers, the default save as is .PSD, so when i select jpeg option, they disable the copy tickbox >.<
I think i know wat you mean.. In Cs3.. when u hv layers.. but u choose to save in Jpeg.. it will automatically add the COPY behind the title to prevent overwrite ur original file.. So the Cs4 actually doesnt work like that???
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QUOTE(braindead_fr3ak @ Oct 29 2009, 01:20 AM)
oh..ier.......photoshop cant save jpeg as a copy when there is layers....ull have to merge the layers then save then ctrl z .....
apuuuu, i own a slow pc la... die la like that, then i better downgrade to cs2 balik... cs4 already so lagging with the so much simulation effects... sigh... but cs4 engine now is soo much powerful and accurate... i think the only way is to manual type in _copy everytime lor.. >.<
cs3 crashes often on me, so i use back cs2 last time, never think of upgrading to cs4, because they say the interface is like cs3 (which i dont like at all) but now, due to the photomerge and HDR function on cs4 is farrrrrr superior then cs2, no choice to use it, also i need the camera raw convertor, but i realise, sony original one is better, as they give more proper color output when export to jpge then adobe raw...
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 29 2009, 01:28 AM
yea..probably..ahahha....im running cs4 too...a lot smoother than cs2....definitely....but some things are new.....
i upgraded coz photoshop got this annoying thing when u try to add text to a photo...sometimes it just WONT.... finnaly overcame that problem ... hahaha
oh yea..im running a gtx260 with 4g ram and quad core processing also the photoshop lag when rendering blur and reducing noise...
Thats wat i usually did. block it off with my hand... but is so inconvenient especially without assistant.. i hv one hand holding my camera another hand holding the F42 from the side.. then no hand to block the pop up flash..look like i need Flash stand... (got such thing tat can hold sony flash?) Ahhh.. look like William A100 has been inherit to you... Try changing ur metering mode.... mayb u r using Spot n focus on smthing bright?
Just put the flash foot on. Then u can mount the flash on a normal camera tripod. Look under the flash foot, the screw mount fits tripod 1.
Just got a sony a200 last few weeks. New user here. Pls enlighten me on taking photos.
Im having difficulty taking night shots, could someone enlighten me here. What aperture and shutter speed?
try to understand the basic exposure rules like aperture..shutter..iso..i ..try to play around wth it..it helps to understand better..lastly share ur result here so the gurus can tell u wads wrong =)
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QUOTE(achew @ Oct 29 2009, 02:23 AM)
try to understand the basic exposure rules like aperture..shutter..iso..i ..try to play around wth it..it helps to understand better..lastly share ur result here so the gurus can tell u wads wrong =)
@ier i luvvvvvvv cs4 =p
give me a macccccccccc sure i love cs4~ but i heard cs4 on mac have problem processing files/project larger then 500mb?..... hungry, wan go out for big mac?
give me a macccccccccc sure i love cs4~ but i heard cs4 on mac have problem processing files/project larger then 500mb?..... hungry, wan go out for big mac?
well..i never really try to render anything that big...i did tried to create some gif for games..but at most 200-300mb only...no issue...no chance to try anything larger than 500mb..
and how do we make the new open document to be floated window? why is it always maximised, hate it like that... dont waste ur money, save it enough, go straight to F58... u get F20 also 1 month later u wan to upgrade again.
for the marco, u still need flash to shoot it properly, so flash first.
Ahaks straight to F58 eh any other noticeable feature than the whole body can be tilted? Hehe suddenly poisoned by your statement
Any users of the Sony Alpha LCS-AMLC3 Leather case ? Any comments ?
jika u upgrade items.. lens, flash etc etc.. the leather case willl collect dust.. cause if your like me, i tend to chuck everything in one bigbag (im carrying L size bagman) then carry the whole load out.. I previously wanted to get the leather case.. looks so nice.. but come to think of it.. when i go out, i need my flash.. cannot fit lar.. samore im carrying another additional zoom lens..
if ur going on 1 lens all the way no flash.. then should be ok lar.. if u like to lug ur gear around, then no point..
Added on October 29, 2009, 11:25 am
QUOTE(Uzumaki NaruTo @ Oct 29 2009, 09:00 AM)
Ahaks straight to F58 eh any other noticeable feature than the whole body can be tilted? Hehe suddenly poisoned by your statement
more powwaaaa.. u take the f42 and the f58 from the sony website and do side by side comparison lar.. but really i got no regrets by going staight to f58.. its a nice toy to have
This post has been edited by lildaredevil906: Oct 29 2009, 11:25 AM
jika u upgrade items.. lens, flash etc etc.. the leather case willl collect dust.. cause if your like me, i tend to chuck everything in one bigbag (im carrying L size bagman) then carry the whole load out.. I previously wanted to get the leather case.. looks so nice.. but come to think of it.. when i go out, i need my flash.. cannot fit lar.. samore im carrying another additional zoom lens..
if ur going on 1 lens all the way no flash.. then should be ok lar.. if u like to lug ur gear around, then no point..
Added on October 29, 2009, 11:25 am
more powwaaaa.. u take the f42 and the f58 from the sony website and do side by side comparison lar.. but really i got no regrets by going staight to f58.. its a nice toy to have
F58 is good when shooting in portrait (camera vertical) mode too. because the flash head will be closer to be camera...without that feature the flash head is actually slightly left/right when shooting in portrait mode causing the flash to be seen coming from left/right side. if u get what i mean
jika u upgrade items.. lens, flash etc etc.. the leather case willl collect dust.. cause if your like me, i tend to chuck everything in one bigbag (im carrying L size bagman) then carry the whole load out.. I previously wanted to get the leather case.. looks so nice.. but come to think of it.. when i go out, i need my flash.. cannot fit lar.. samore im carrying another additional zoom lens..
if ur going on 1 lens all the way no flash.. then should be ok lar.. if u like to lug ur gear around, then no point..
Added on October 29, 2009, 11:25 am
more powwaaaa.. u take the f42 and the f58 from the sony website and do side by side comparison lar.. but really i got no regrets by going staight to f58.. its a nice toy to have
True true...i agree with u...the F58 is a nice toy to have....really helps alot....especially when u have the tammy togather! Lol.....and also the lambency diffuser on....niceee.....
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not forgeting F58 was the only flash that can even bend -ve 15 degree to shot marco!~~~~~ (saying 0degree is straight front) and with such precise TTL control, ur marco also wont become overexpose~~ F58 i think has the smartest WB exposure AI~
used to play with canon 580exII, erm it tend to rely on the canon's iso a lot, so the flash i not sure is really not so powerful or the iso is the one compasate it lack of exposure~ summore it cannot withstand the weight of the garyfong bowl thingie, coz the lock is at 90degre or 0 degree, so u garyfong it at 75degree, it will fall down...
*edit: garyfong = lambency diffuser
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This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 29 2009, 01:03 PM
i went to sepang for motogp but i cant take pict there i m working with SABO.only can wandered around after 5 o'clock. anyone with nice pict? saw few sony user @ training session. dunno if they r from here. one guy give thumb after see my camera.anyone from here?
This post has been edited by irienaoki: Oct 29 2009, 01:23 PM
clivengu: Refer to page 1 on how to reduce the effect of the WL flash signal from appearing in your pictures. The WL flash signal is always the same power no matter what EV/flash EV you have, but your settings can affect how strong it appears.
bro, ur shot.. nosebleed.. i can feel the static from here.. nice one edit: its pouring rain and the lightning is striking and the thunders are roaring, it IS a good time to take ur cams out ladies and gents
carefull mite get struck by lightning....lol! then left skeleton only!
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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 29 2009, 02:08 PM)
clivengu: Refer to page 1 on how to reduce the effect of the WL flash signal from appearing in your pictures. The WL flash signal is always the same power no matter what EV/flash EV you have, but your settings can affect how strong it appears.
hey bro boyz, last time I pm you about benro tripod never reply me yeah. Ah, just go buy one, I'm poisoned myself from those web photos, haha, 3" 640x480 flip LCD, 7fps, iso 12800,dual live view mode, all damn nice to me.
oo basiclly they r same thing coz i read some forum some got state beercan some not like got diff
i can't understand what u trying to say.. beercan maxxum is a minolta lens.. got baby beercan , beercan and big beercan.. they are named like that because the size and look similar to a beercan..
i can't understand what u trying to say.. beercan maxxum is a minolta lens.. got baby beercan , beercan and big beercan.. they are named like that because the size and look similar to a beercan..
Studio Zaloon said RM2750.. still can nego if u really wanna buy.. pm albnok to know where to get RM2650..
or.. the fastest way, call/sms him at
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LOL! Not that rush lar, already pm him... A550 is really poisonous. ISO 6400 looks like ISO1600 in A200 and much better lol Ah, perhaps the price will drop if I wait. For the moment I want to get a 50mm 1.8 first. Bro wcs din reply me, I think last unit was sold.
Oh ya, if MF LV check turn on in A550, will the mirror still be flip when the shutter be pressed?
This post has been edited by 5564321: Oct 29 2009, 08:13 PM
waiting for my bonus at the end of year, either i get a550 for replacement my a200 or make down payment for kawasaki zxr 250r for replacement my kapchai... lol.
waiting for my bonus at the end of year, either i get a550 for replacement my a200 or make down payment for kawasaki zxr 250r for replacement my kapchai... lol.
Buy the bike maaaaaaaaan. Big bike get chics. Camera dont get no chics.
lol..u r more pro in taking photo for danbo.. eh, frm a lowyat mmber who do shipping service for amazon.jp or mayb u can try ask in the toy shop name: xl shop if u're in kl...
lol..im not pro la...anyway..everyone pro was once a noob...
i saw lots of sellers in garage sales keep mentioning 'unfill warranty card' where that doesnt mean anything at all actually. it purposely to attract buyer attention with somewhow to 'cheat' the buyer into thinking the item still can get the warranty even it is 3-4 years old already!
hey bro boyz, last time I pm you about benro tripod never reply me yeah. Ah, just go buy one, I'm poisoned myself from those web photos, haha, 3" 640x480 flip LCD, 7fps, iso 12800,dual live view mode, all damn nice to me.
Oppss..missed you PM. Just checked and replied ....Sorry Please check
the combo with ZA lense is dem tempting...hahahhah..HDR onboard..., uses my A300 Batts which i have 2. not sure if the grip fits...sigh..
[quote=mcline_007,Oct 30 2009, 12:29 PM] [quote=sonyx,Oct 30 2009, 12:26 PM] go to digicolor la...more option and some with good price..(if you can live with china brand lah)
okcool but where is tis digicolor? add pls
[/quote] mutiara complex jln ipoh. if you travel along jln ipoh, you will definately see mutiara complex. digicolor at 1st flr i think
Photo Miami?? the one in ss14? last time was 1050 leh.. like that uncle chin cheaperr.. uncle chin quoted 11xx
yup...that one....someone got for 1015 if not mistaken la....in digital mall they qouted 1180...bargain abit can get 1160....in the curve,cam world qouted 1150....
boeing is located on 2nd floor of sgwang plaza....in Bukit bintang...
Added on October 30, 2009, 11:46 pmhere kitty kitty kitty......such an addodoooorable one...
CLEEFT ..who didya get it from..???? the link i provided?.. PM ME THE DETAILS NOWWWWW...or i HARIMAU U!!! RAWRRRR CZZZ CZC CZ CZC ZZ ohh ohhhhhhhhhh ohhhhhhhhhh oh
This post has been edited by braindead_fr3ak: Oct 30 2009, 11:46 PM
hhahaha..ok....nvm...different ppl different skill..who knows... underwater then suddenly see a whale giving birth..takkan wanna take photo ony... could be useful
hhahaha..ok....nvm...different ppl different skill..who knows... underwater then suddenly see a whale giving birth..takkan wanna take photo ony... could be useful
if that time whale giving birth ada underwater casing for DSLR baru cakap...
aiya...if u are looking at a whale..takkan u and having ur dslr takkan its not in a casing hahahaha.... aduui....unless.................ur in a submarine...
weh weh weh..dun say impossible..malaysia GOOT u KNOeeeee
aiya...if u are looking at a whale..takkan u and having ur dslr takkan its not in a casing hahahaha.... aduui....unless.................ur in a submarine...
weh weh weh..dun say impossible..malaysia GOOT u KNOeeeee
want take video/photo of whale fast fast dive in water, then say 'eh, y my DSLR not working 1?'
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QUOTE(bangkai @ Oct 31 2009, 02:49 AM)
can i record video using sony a330 dunno which 1 better for starting and start to think for nikon d5000
up to u video mode on DSLR is not mature, how? D5000 is manual focus for video. good luck with that~ if u wan HD video with AF, get HX1... LOL
QUOTE(phat @ Oct 31 2009, 07:19 AM)
I've decided to buy a sunpak pz42x...or r there any other suggestion?im in a tight budget though..huhu
you may think u are in tight budget for a flash, but how long did u save up to able to afford this flash? why not save a little more and get a proper Sony flash? trust everyone here when we all (will) say, get a sony flash, and u wont regret. especially when they come to power, bounce, build in zoom motor, and precise TTL
jangan because u needed flash badly u to rush to purchase a flash, that u made a wrong choice
(or was it u are using a nikon? because the photo shows a nikon.)
just wondering either to get a 50mm f1.8 or F42 flash first.. Any suggestion?
i hold a slightly diff opinion from the rest...i think its all depend on ur style n need..did u feel u need flash badly??like shooting in dark rooms..or bright sunlight behind ur model..blablabla...or u r a bokeh sucker like me..cant live without bokeh in ur shots..?i think u know ur needs better than any of us...in either way...u going to get both..so its just a matter of time.....haha..
just wondering either to get a 50mm f1.8 or F42 flash first.. Any suggestion?
get a flash bro,
i never regret my decision to have a flash first since i know what disappoint me most when using pns camera while taking picture indoor especially during party or event.
while in pns,when i switch to indoor mode if my hand got a bit goyang, the pic will becomre blurry very bad. swith to auto mode, then the subject will be clear but the background will be very bad.play with iso in pns for me is still not a satisfying method for me.
bought a dslr a while ago + flash, and hola! no more worries! all pics come out awesome even in auto mode with my f42. now im learning the technique of ss,aperture and the rest.
SAL1118, wow! im thinking to get either 50mm or 1118 first but 1118 really look marvellous! might get one too soon.
My suggestion .. If u travel a lot n love to take landscape pic - then go for SAL1118 If u love potrait or product shot or doing wedding assign - then better go for 50mm
flash ftw!! the bounce light pictures really looks nice.. better then direct stock flash if u ask me..
50mm later can get lar..
but as achew said.. if your a bokeh freak, then u need the 50mm.. im more to bokeh but you still need flash if your planning to shoot people at night..
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if u are planing for wedding/product even portrait, reconsider for tammy 1750 F2.8, for 1.5k,
although some will say the 1.4/1.8 is very much different with F2.8, my experince with 50F1.4, wedding assignment, i dont use 1.4, as the bokeh is too much, usually i will use F2.0-2.8, as for product, i uses from F2.8-F8 depending, F1.4 dof is too shallow when going close up. tammy has wide angle so u may shoot group photo too. they create diff perspective on close up for portrait, wedding or products (oh dear, tammy the next poison?) but, many claim that 50mm prime has very very high IQ(sharpness) then tammy and i agree (tammy iq is better then kitlens), but with all the photo that we going to resize to 800px (or 1024px) to upload or develop out (only req 2mp quality)... our >10mp pic wont matter anyway.
as for the flash issue, do u often shoot at night? or mostly daylight? i) if daylight/outdoor, and sucker for bokeh, tammy or 50mm way to go... if on perform so so indoor, unless u have A550/700/850/900 for it's marvelous iso800-3200. A380 and below, thier iso800 are just not really brings out the sharpness of 50mm ii) but if u are night shooter/lowlight/indoor...you MUST get flash first, always flash, not because of WL or bounce or marco etc, but because, once u get it, any lens u purchase later, the lenses will benefit from it.
my 2 cent of experince
so, depend on ur shooting style if u right, buy all 3, 50mm, tammy, F58
Added on October 31, 2009, 10:36 amnaruto-kun~~, why not bring ur camera along and test kao kao? fast fast lor... F58~~ (hehehehehehehehe)
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 10:39 AM
i hold a slightly diff opinion from the rest...i think its all depend on ur style n need..did u feel u need flash badly??like shooting in dark rooms..or bright sunlight behind ur model..blablabla...or u r a bokeh sucker like me..cant live without bokeh in ur shots..?i think u know ur needs better than any of us...in either way...u going to get both..so its just a matter of time.....haha..
hehe achew same gang with me. Gila bokeh gang. achew go buy the 35mm G maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Maaaaaaaaaanyak sui itu lens on A850.
btw can anyone please help enlighten me whats wrong with the pic? i got the feeling that the it was overexposed and the background quite dark. play thru the exposure -+g. i direct the flash to bounce off the ceiling.
shutter speed 1/60, f 4.0, spot metering. iso 100, +0.3 EV.
btw can anyone please help enlighten me whats wrong with the pic? i got the feeling that the it was overexposed and the background quite dark. play thru the exposure -+g. i direct the flash to bounce off the ceiling.
shutter speed 1/60, f 4.0, spot metering. iso 100, +0.3 EV.
spot metering can be tricky.. use center weighted, local metering (choose ur local point focus), ISO200, raise ur F42 90degrees.. try this,
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QUOTE(wuszhtag @ Oct 31 2009, 11:19 AM)
btw can anyone please help enlighten me whats wrong with the pic? i got the feeling that the it was overexposed and the background quite dark. play thru the exposure -+g. i direct the flash to bounce off the ceiling.
shutter speed 1/60, f 4.0, spot metering. iso 100, +0.3 EV.
first, i think u activated vivid color, thus the red is very deep red (not excately overexpose)
as for the flash, open up the white card (diffuser) to push a little light into the front) as for the background, well, learn the bouncing ball technique, at which angle the light goes up the ceiling, at what angle it comes down... the light is almost impossible to brighten up the whole room (unless u have high ceiling), maybe u can try the buildin wideangle diffuser plate... or, boost ur iso to 400 to able to absord the background light(dont worry bout the flash, it will auto adjust not to overexpose)
*edit: oh, MechaHerc was right, i didnt notice u wrote spot metering, use the multi metering or centre.
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 11:46 AM
Buy the bike maaaaaaaaan. Big bike get chics. Camera dont get no chics.
lol, my fren wish to buy infra red lens to see thru clothes got such lens in market? very curious
offtopic recently warn level awarded and suspended 3 days due to no constructive comment. but "Congra V33' is consider non constructive commend, is that true? amadeo, v33 bring bad luck to me
This post has been edited by jimlim007: Oct 31 2009, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 31 2009, 12:13 PM)
lol, my fren wish to buy infra red lens to see thru clothes got such lens in market? very curious < this is real off topic, better stay away the intention to prevent getting warn again
offtopic recently warn level awarded and suspended 3 days due to no constructive comment. but "Congra V33' is consider non constructive commend, is that true? amadeo, v33 bring bad luck to me
yes there is. fullstop.
erm,... it's not really non constructive, but it's catagory as spam, prehaps a warning was issued before in the pass, i dont know. anyway, welcome back friend.
erm,... it's not really non constructive, but it's catagory as spam, prehaps a warning was issued before in the pass, i dont know. anyway, welcome back friend.
where none constructive by asking a infre red lens for alpha is it available in market...
offtopic, if ppl post photo, other reply, good shot etc
amadeo open new thread, ppl reply congra v33, what so different compare to above. it is a congra to new thread for the momentum to continue..
erm,... it's not really non constructive, but it's catagory as spam, prehaps a warning was issued before in the pass, i dont know. anyway, welcome back friend.
I got suspended too hope the staff will act also on other threads, all across the board, not just alpha thread... for fairness sake.
rare.... rare... making me thirsty... (btw, nice one, how did u made the last pic, the color lights etc?)
i guess he shoot in bar, the bottle is basically transparent , so the shot could be able to capture the bokeh light. my thought only
QUOTE(Banzai_san @ Oct 31 2009, 12:43 PM)
I got suspended too hope the staff will act also on other threads, all across the board, not just alpha thread... for fairness sake.
well come back to join alpha
offtopic, your point is true; i used to see other mod have pm warning note before real action taken. hopefully uncle Ho could advice to the board of adminstrators about this fairness.
This post has been edited by jimlim007: Oct 31 2009, 12:59 PM
maybe if someone joins Alpha Orange League, cannot congrat too... as not constructivee?
anyway... thinking of getting the A550 + 1680CZ bundle...
Congra Congra to plan for A550, very good camera as i see alpharians feedbacks, powered by Exmor with CZ, that will cost a boom, why not go for STF unique lens by minolta
This post has been edited by jimlim007: Oct 31 2009, 12:59 PM
Congra Congra to plan for A550, very good camera as i see alpharians feedbacks with CZ, that will cost a boom, why not go for STF unique lens by minolta
the a550 + CZ bundle is sooo tempting la... ( ~rm4700) if buy separate a550 body rm2700 + CZ 1680 rm2500 .... meaning save rm500 la haiyya
STF maybe later on la... I need a walk about lense... and the 1680 range is so ideal for the purpose... CZ summore ...
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Oct 31 2009, 01:01 PM
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(jimlim007 @ Oct 31 2009, 12:42 PM)
where none constructive by asking a infre red lens for alpha is it available in market...
offtopic, if ppl post photo, other reply, good shot etc
amadeo open new thread, ppl reply congra v33, what so different compare to above. it is a congra to new thread for the momentum to continue..
naa, it's the intention.... to shoot through cloth, even thou u said it was good intention, some might not think so,... i send art shots of see through cloth,... something like bikini shots, very nice... but i forgot the site...
i think the admin primary send those who said first second third... and those who said congrat in between got it too. bad luck i guess.
hokc77: wow, nice hehehe then i should go hang out at bars tonight
hmmm... then how bout used a300 body only priced at rm1300? my budget is only rm2k, need to reserve some for other accesories also... really need all the sifus' advice...
hmmm... then how bout used a300 body only priced at rm1300? my budget is only rm2k, need to reserve some for other accesories also... really need all the sifus' advice...
thanks!!
a300 body only can get slightly cheaper than that The rest of the money you can purchase a F42 flash and a 18-70 for a good starter kit
edit : eh.. depends if you get a good deal for the a300 body la. I got mine cheaper
This post has been edited by laszlo: Oct 31 2009, 03:42 PM
i was like what is tammy went to google, and TAMRON,haha!
that so many poison already. last time for xbox, the xbox geng kaw2 racun me for elite set. end up i sold my xbox white and get an elite set instead!
so many hobby can kill u!....or ur wallet.
That what friends and forummers are for.... to poison their friends kow kow...
I got bitten by fighting stick poison, ended up custom building a X360 wireless fight stick (sanwa buttons, custom artwork, etc)...... crappy friends...
Me oso poisoned here, 50mm la..., STF la...., CZ la...., lucky pokai all the way liao......
hi sifus, any comment on the minolta 28-75 f2.8 and the tamron 70-210 SP LD f2.8 (yup, 70-210, not 70-200) having someone going to the US, so hope to find some bargain old but gold lense in addition, can the minolta flash be used on alpha, cos if can find cheap (again) might want to try
hmmm... then how bout used a300 body only priced at rm1300? my budget is only rm2k, need to reserve some for other accesories also... really need all the sifus' advice...
thanks!!
Yeah.... there are very little diff to A300 and A350, in fact the higher resolution of the A350 does produce more noise than the A300.
Moreover, u can get a F42 flash with the balance left over from the RM1300....
hi sifus, any comment on the minolta 28-75 f2.8 and the tamron 70-210 SP LD f2.8 (yup, 70-210, not 70-200) having someone going to the US, so hope to find some bargain old but gold lense in addition, can the minolta flash be used on alpha, cos if can find cheap (again) might want to try
.. u can read the reviews and decide.. not many ppl use that lens.. especially the Tamron..
..and yes minolta flash can be used on Alpha.. not all.. the one that can be used are : - Minolta 5600HS - Minolta 3600HS(D) - Minolta 2500(D) - Minolta Macro Ring Flash 1200
This post has been edited by amadeo: Oct 31 2009, 04:19 PM
Is time for me to Spam Photos!! Finally i get to do a more proper shooting. My friend wanna do site visit round kl for college project so I teman her around when i simply snap snap everything... Some might find donno wat am i shooting cause there r really no meaning behind d photos.. kekeke. C& C most welcome!
.. u can read the reviews and decide.. not many ppl use that lens.. especially the Tamron..
..and yes minolta flash can be used on Alpha.. not all.. the one that can be used are : - Minolta 5600HS - Minolta 3600HS(D) - Minolta 2500(D) - Minolta Macro Ring Flash 1200
hhahah clivengu!! u took part in the KL heritage contest also! merit prize?
Nope i din join that contest.. even if got join oso impossible to win anything.. cause i shoot in raw
QUOTE(Tainted @ Oct 31 2009, 07:46 PM)
Nice shots. Love the 1st, 2nd and 4th shot.
Thanks..look like u love architectural shooting
QUOTE(weixuan @ Oct 31 2009, 07:57 PM)
nice shot!
Im glad there are sm1 who like this.. hahaha.. Abstract photo with artist Jackson Pollock paint.
QUOTE(amadeo @ Oct 31 2009, 08:26 PM)
i like this shot a lot.. nice composition, timing and all.. colour also very artistic..
Thanks. take continious shots n choose the one hv the best compo... i wish there r some ppl standing on the opposite site though.
QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 31 2009, 09:30 PM)
guys, wanna ask, is it possible to set the shutter to 20 minutes? is there any other body aside sony could do it? because i plan to do star trail
repeat, not 20 seconds, 20 minutes.
Can bulb mode work? using a remote control.. Press one to start n press the secondtime to stop? I'll wish to see the Star Trail will b cool...
Another thing i wish to try is doing a TIMELAPSE video.. shooting 1 photo every 10-20 seconds.. for an hour during evening.. n combine them to video ..But will hv to get a exterior timer device bcause A700 don hv build in timelapse function..
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
star trails.... mmmmmm was thinking to go to the beach now to shoot, but beach usually now is full of fog... mmm or the hill side? now i realise, my hometown is wonderful, got hill, got sea, got beach, got river, got lake, got sail dock (marina bays)... all also got @.@
Added on October 31, 2009, 11:24 pmbut no train stations
Added on October 31, 2009, 11:25 pmand no mei nv for portraitures
This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 11:26 PM
star trails.... mmmmmm was thinking to go to the beach now to shoot, but beach usually now is full of fog... mmm or the hill side? now i realise, my hometown is wonderful, got hill, got sea, got beach, got river, got lake, got sail dock (marina bays)... all also got @.@
Added on October 31, 2009, 11:24 pmbut no train stations
Added on October 31, 2009, 11:25 pmand no mei nv for portraitures
UR HOMETOWN GOT BEACH!!! so nice... my hometown is in d middle of nowhere..no Beach... only got Teh ais River & Nice sky... do more shots of ur hometown.. I find that those places usually u can find nicer n more unique places to shoot than KL...
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(clivengu @ Oct 31 2009, 11:55 PM)
UR HOMETOWN GOT BEACH!!! so nice... my hometown is in d middle of nowhere..no Beach... only got Teh ais River & Nice sky... do more shots of ur hometown.. I find that those places usually u can find nicer n more unique places to shoot than KL...
well, i prefer street walkaround~... and sibu has that smell, the street smell of photography.... miri is like... urggg... too much landscape in miri but doesnt bring the ump much out, maybe is because i haven manage to scout a rare sight yet...
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
Spam image... well not as geng as clivengu's.... just a shot i did yesterday for a piano school for their 'piano circle', like a small performance.
also, to show the power of tamron 17-50 F2.8, somewhen in the middle of the shooting, the batt of my flash went out, didnt expect it to run out so fast, went reach home only knew i brought the wrong sets ... but still alright when some i shot with iso1600
*edit: the color are warm because of the lighting in the room was 3 holegen tungsten little spotlight on the grand piano, and they prefer the color as it, so i used color gel to fire soft warm color. forgive me for the White Balance issue as it's client's request.
This post has been edited by ieR: Nov 1 2009, 12:27 AM
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Nov 1 2009, 12:44 AM)
but exif says 50mm le...
p/s: I also want get tamron 1750VC..i hope i can get decent bokeh from it
hmmm i dont know... maybe because i shot a large area? summore the booksshelves behind aren't that far away. or maybe when u see the large files, u see the bokeh, but resized make the photo sharp? but i am pretty sure i didnt manage to turn my tammy to 50mm, coz the room was small.
This post has been edited by ieR: Nov 1 2009, 12:54 AM
hmmm i dont know... maybe because i shot a large area? summore the booksshelves behind aren't that far away. or maybe when u see the large files, u see the bokeh, but resized make the photo sharp? but i am pretty sure i didnt manage to turn my tammy to 50mm, coz the room was small.
*edit: now i even more confuse, after checking the exif... i notice the one with (2nd pic) has more bokeh then the other 2 50mm(1st and 3rd pic). @.@
hahah...wht could be the problem? lol! btw shopping spree on? 70200 is damn poisonous le....
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
its always my wishlist, final unit would be the 70200G, coz well, that is the last lens u going to get and stop upgrading... but that, requires a half year savings... meaning i wont be heading for any vacation or traveling...
Added on November 1, 2009, 12:57 amwait, 1 more, that is the 2x teleconvertor, for the 70200, that teleconvertor is meant to pair with it
This post has been edited by ieR: Nov 1 2009, 12:57 AM
Wanna ask... If i upload photo in flickr.. n set them the Private (only myself can see) but then i copy the img link to this forum.. will ppl here be able to view?
No photography allowed in the MRT subway ler. Wanna get arrested as terrorist kar?
Ahhaha!! Didnt know bout that!!!
QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Nov 1 2009, 12:31 AM)
somehow i don feel the bokeh is enough lol..
QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Nov 1 2009, 12:44 AM)
but exif says 50mm le...
p/s: I also want get tamron 1750VC..i hope i can get decent bokeh from it
ok here some example of what d Tamron 1750 F2.8 can do at F2.8...to show bokeh of course best to hv lighting behind n some distance All photo should be shot at Iso 1250 , F2.8, Shutterspeed varies.
Don bother checking my exif.. i just realise bcause im using the same psd file to do all my watermark.. therefore the picture info is oredi gone... Pls dont save the picture too or criticize d girl.. later my friend angry (din get permission from her to post )
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This one taken using SAL 50 F1.4 at F 2.0
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No photography allowed in the MRT subway ler. Wanna get arrested as terrorist kar?
Oh is it? Never notice that.. Sometime I bring camera shoot a bit while waiting for the train... nexttime take train must see got NO camera sign or not..
even if selling at rm 50 I wouldnt want le...... cause i know it wil be just left in the house .. i'll prefer to hv the 1870kitlens around...unless u buy n u sell it at higher price then thr will b a purpose of getting that...
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
paper weight lor, mean u going to leave it at home... hakakaka... save the 150... u never know when it gonna come in handy with the extra money to flow ;P
even if selling at rm 50 I wouldnt want le...... cause i know it wil be just left in the house .. i'll prefer to hv the 1870kitlens around...unless u buy n u sell it at higher price then thr will b a purpose of getting that...
lol.. haha... im still bothered by not having a flash.. but people here say f20 is not worth it. so i ... coz f42 is rm700 and f58 is ....
ist always a question of "do i get lenses first or flash first?" ... lol.
Added on November 1, 2009, 1:41 am in the process..
Dude, get the minimum F42, which has a guide number of... 42 (dont u love the way Sony names their flash. This means at ISO100 and F4 and the flash at 0 degrees, the flash can reach 42/4 = 10mtrs.... (i think thats how the instructors calculated it)....
The F20 will only reach (20/4) 5 mtrs, which may not be strong or powerful enuff to reach or illuminate the entire room.
Decide if this is worth the RM200 savings.... by the same method, the F58 has the longest reach and as its the latest flash in the Sony's family, it has the latest technology and is worth every sen...
(Sifus, pls correct my maths above if i screw it up... but i hope MIKE gets the idea)
The eternal question of noobies.... flash or lens? I would strongly suggest FLASH, as someone has said it... no light = no pictures, irregardless what lens u have....
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From: Incheon, Korea.. currently in Miri, Soviet Sarawak
one month save rm100 from your allowance is not that hard..., if u are student, u can always grab a work from the student council, they have part time arrangement for oversea student and some locals if you are interested. prob can get urself a salary of rm200 for parttime... that only like 2-3 month saving or 1 semester. why so hard? i am also once a student i spend almost rm500 each semester on computer parts upgrades, that is where my money comes from...
Added on November 1, 2009, 2:07 amnow i am working, i spend even worst >.< funny thing is, from the college years, i learn how to save, and i am a good saver, thus why, some ppl ask me, how i manage to spend over 9k of equipment only in 10 months... 1 body, 5 lens, 1 flash, drybox and accesories.
Added on November 1, 2009, 2:09 amMikeshashimi : miri? or KL now? btw, u got ur answer pretty well, grab a better flash. btw, what major u in?
This post has been edited by ieR: Nov 1 2009, 02:09 AM
lol.. haha... im still bothered by not having a flash.. but people here say f20 is not worth it. so i ... coz f42 is rm700 and f58 is .... ist always a question of "do i get lenses first or flash first?" ... lol.
where u got F42 for that price...??nice already woo...i didnt regret buying F42....
QUOTE(ieR @ Nov 1 2009, 01:36 AM)
flash first... come on, F42 is only add rm200 from F20... what's so hard?
i think he needs motivation la....can F20 do this...??? (dis one not F42....dis one Cobra...)
Added on November 1, 2009, 1:41 am in the process..
Boeing @ Sg wang plaza (Level LG) sells at 750 bucks. If you ask me its a totally different level even with a bit more of makan meggi
Just depleted all of my rechargeable batteries. Seriously dude go for flash. Its a totally new experience Now planning to get 2 sets of rechargeable for my f42. . Back home test almost everything (bounce , hss, 1/1 rate i think this what kills my rechargeable batt and not to forget the wireless mode hehe.
QUOTE(amadeo @ Nov 1 2009, 01:42 AM)
with a flash, u can do wonders even with ur kit lens
Now using my kitty 1870 for portrait shooting. Ask wifey to be model and she really impressed and happy with the output. Now poisoning her with prime lens. Tammy sp90 for teh win
i just see the sony user video teaching. the HDR mode very usefull when take photo of scenery of super dark abd bringht area in one photo. using HDR mode, the output pic quality very nice as we can see the dark area more clear and bright area no over explosure.
is there any setting we could to for those old series alpha that dont have HDR mode to get the same result w/o pp...?
example like this:
This post has been edited by jimlim007: Nov 1 2009, 11:22 AM
ok here some example of what d Tamron 1750 F2.8 can do at F2.8...to show bokeh of course best to hv lighting behind n some distance All photo should be shot at Iso 1250 , F2.8, Shutterspeed varies.
Don bother checking my exif.. i just realise bcause im using the same psd file to do all my watermark.. therefore the picture info is oredi gone... Pls dont save the picture too or criticize d girl.. later my friend angry (din get permission from her to post )
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This one taken using SAL 50 F1.4 at F 2.0
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omg it's really nice!i mean not just the girl but the pic as a whole.. somehow i think the bokeh of SAL50f1.4 is nicer...im so gonna get 1 of that...but flash 1st =p
this is my first dslr camera, after reading a lot of comment about this camera. i decide buy it. need tons of advice n guidance from sifus here how to use this camera. right now, still reading manual.
This post has been edited by bernama7: Nov 1 2009, 03:17 PM
this is my first dslr camera, after reading a lot of comment about this camera. i decide buy it. need tons of advice n guidance from sifus here how to use this camera. right now, still reading manual.
tell you what bro...you start with a good camera. do share us your pic later. welcome to orange world
no lah, not reporter. just nick name. anyway, i'm from pasing gudang johor.
buy body, sal1870 at sonystyle teberau. need find a bag for this item. any suggestion for beginner?
well... the usual advise is ... keep shooting to familiarize yourself with your new a550. post your pictures here for comments to learn from the sifus and veterans here another website for alpha owner is the alphanatics.com
and... dont forget to PM bro amadeo to put you in the A550 owner list you can use the a550 user bar from page 1 of this thread if you wish, so that easy for others to know which camera you are using
Added on November 1, 2009, 4:19 pm
QUOTE(sucka3 @ Nov 1 2009, 02:37 PM)
is a550/a500 is out in the market???..went n survey around..couldnt see any of them....wanted the a550..or should i wait for the a700 replacement...
A550 IS out. A500 is NOT. Should you wait??? donno. depends. I would not
QUOTE(mcline_007 @ Nov 1 2009, 04:10 PM)
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Muhahahahah!!!! i got it
Congrats bro
QUOTE(jcjk @ Nov 1 2009, 04:13 PM)
i still a newbie to DSLR i wonder is there any good web tht will teach me how to take good picture..?
which camera are you using?
This post has been edited by Banzai_san: Nov 1 2009, 04:24 PM
Oct 27 2009, 07:14 PM, updated 17y ago
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A new beginning!
.....lol! Just kidding....u shud get a flash gun fasssttttttttt......the cobra is awesomeeee! 
. Haha, might get it soon. 
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