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post Jun 11 2009, 10:06 AM, updated 16y ago

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yo,everybody~
pls come in n discuse about ur ride's tires rather than discussing in pricelist's thread which for other member to look for pricelist~ smile.gif


*serious for discussion only~



*hope mod will pin my thread up like price list~ blush.gif

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post Jun 11 2009, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Jun 11 2009, 10:23 AM)
the wearing of the shoulder thread is faster compare to others like Michelin PP2 and Hankook V12...
that is for a bit aggressive driving style, but for normal use i think it should be ok...
not quite sure about the price as the tire price list does not have Falken912 in your size...
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if wear both shoulder means not enuf air pressure on d tires~
but if only wears only 1 side shoulder means aggresive driving or alignment not proper done~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:08 AM)
if wear both shoulder means not enuf air pressure on d tires~
but if only wears only 1 side shoulder means aggresive driving or alignment not proper done~
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My P.saga only use tyre size 13 whistling.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:09 AM)
My P.saga only use tyre size 13  whistling.gif
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my slk using 12" n camber both side set camber -1.5 n total toe is 0 still wearing outside~ laugh.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 10:17 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:12 AM)
my slk using 12" n camber both side set camber  -1.5 n total toe is 0 still wearing outside~  laugh.gif
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wan adjust camber 1 bolt RM45 + fee RM 45 time 2 side=RM 180 cry.gif
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:17 AM)
wan adjust camber 1 bolt RM45 + fee RM 45 time 2 side=RM 180  cry.gif
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so expensive~
u should nego 9 9 wit them ah~
btw y do u need change camber nuts ? ?
cuz u wan 2 drive more aggresively n more stable on da road during high speed??
bte my case is cuz i likes 2 play corner a lot tat's y i need a lots on camber,otherwise my car will like a turtle over turn~ laugh.gif
btw i'm a Riken tire user for my slk n michelin tire for my satria~ blush.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:22 AM)
so expensive~
u should nego 9 9 wit them ah~
btw y do u need change camber nuts ? ?
cuz  u wan 2 drive more aggresively n more stable on da road during high speed??
bte my case is cuz i likes 2 play corner a lot tat's y i need a lots on camber,otherwise my car will like a turtle over turn~  laugh.gif
btw i'm a Riken tire user for my slk n michelin  tire for my satria~  blush.gif
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nego also cant cry.gif cry.gif but alligment accepteble around RM 15 rclxm9.gif : btw on road i become more aggresive n not dangerous to other ppl(the fast and the safe)brows.gif
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:27 AM)
nego also cant  cry.gif  cry.gif  but alligment accepteble around RM 15  rclxm9.gif : btw on road i become more aggresive n not dangerous to other ppl(the fast and the safe)brows.gif
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alignment for ur saga rm20 only~
but ur camber side really kena chop 9 9~
u should tell them either cheaper or u go other workshop n do lo~
in kl many workshop tat u can go~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:39 AM)
alignment for ur saga  rm20 only~
but ur camber side really kena chop 9 9~
u should tell them either cheaper or u go other workshop n do lo~
in kl many workshop tat u can go~  laugh.gif
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whoa.....go to kl juz wan go make re-camber-ing n alligment....the worse case scanario
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:51 AM)
whoa.....go to kl juz wan go make re-camber-ing n alligment....the worse case scanario
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oh,sorry lo~
din't know u from sekudai~
but u can go other shop which can do it cheaper lo~ tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:55 AM)
oh,sorry lo~
din't know u from sekudai~
but u can go other shop which can do it cheaper lo~  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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all at my place use old school technology der......
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:58 AM)
all at my place use old school technology der......
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like then jus 2 bad for u loh~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:01 AM)
like then jus 2 bad for u loh~
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last 2 week change 1 set front tyre..balancing n allingment.you how mecha make alligment to my car ?? whistling.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:05 PM)
last 2 week change 1 set front tyre..balancing n allingment.you how mecha make alligment to my car ?? whistling.gif
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wat tire u install? ?
goodyear ducaro? ?
if u wanna alignment wit me then mai come kl look for me loh~ tongue.gif
but toll+petrol u sendiri jaga loh~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:18 AM)
wat tire u install? ?
goodyear ducaro? ?
if u wanna alignment wit me then mai come kl look for me loh~  tongue.gif
but toll+petrol u sendiri jaga loh~  laugh.gif
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sime tires astar 100 13
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:22 PM)
sime tires astar 100 13
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oh,budget tires~ biggrin.gif
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 10:12 AM)
my slk using 12" n camber both side set camber  -1.5 n total toe is 0 still wearing outside~  laugh.gif
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u using L5 abs?..
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:23 AM)
oh,budget tires~  biggrin.gif
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budget tyre ok lorh.rather buy new 1 than buy lorek tyre
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QUOTE(Oly @ Jun 11 2009, 12:23 PM)
u using L5 abs?..
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stock worn out kayaba only~ blush.gif
goin 2 change GAB/improve soon~ brows.gif
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my 2009 city uses 185/16 which is terribly hard to find in Kedah. last time i had a pancture (got stone inside) and we had to wait like 2-3 days before they can find the same excellence 185/16. i guess not all manufacturers have this size.

the cost is like, after he took my 98% good thread tire (worth RM10 i think), is RM213. a piece.
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jun 11 2009, 11:25 AM)
my 2009 city uses 185/16 which is terribly hard to find in Kedah. last time i had a pancture (got stone inside) and we had to wait like 2-3 days before they can find the same excellence 185/16. i guess not all manufacturers have this size.

the cost is like, after he took my 98% good thread tire (worth RM10 i think), is RM213. a piece.
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wait?you mean your tyre bocor??
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:25 AM)
stock worn out kayaba only~ blush.gif
goin 2 change GAB/improve soon~ brows.gif
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lol...sapura not bad too...
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post Jun 11 2009, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
budget tyre ok lorh.rather buy new 1 than buy lorek tyre
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sum ppl dunno how 2 different between those re-treaded tires
n it's cheap~ ohmy.gif ohmy.gif



QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jun 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
my 2009 city uses 185/16 which is terribly hard to find in Kedah. last time i had a pancture (got stone inside) and we had to wait like 2-3 days before they can find the same excellence 185/16. i guess not all manufacturers have this size.

the cost is like, after he took my 98% good thread tire (worth RM10 i think), is RM213. a piece.
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time to downsize to 15" wink.gif
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:32 PM)
can observe..see bent thread that re-thread tyre.dangerous lor  ohmy.gif  dun say you sell it to brows.gif  brows.gif
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if u can find 1 re-thread tires in my dad's shop tat is selling on da rack i give u whole shop~
u wan take my challange? ?
i've seen sum famous shop in sunway selling re-thread tires 2 my fren n i was so surprise n ask him go back change back his old tires~
even if i got sell also will sell it to u only~ rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif


QUOTE(Oly @ Jun 11 2009, 12:27 PM)
lol...sapura not bad too...
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i know but wanna try sum thing else~



QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:32 PM)
can observe..see bent thread that re-thread tyre.dangerous lor  ohmy.gif  dun say you sell it to brows.gif  brows.gif
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anyway if u wan 2 keep slandering me wit nonsence n contribute nothing pls go off from my thread s it's for tires discussion thread~
otherwise i'll report on u~

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wow...first time im hearing of 185/16....

arent people who run on 16" wheels usually use 205 tires? why arent u using that instead? clearance issues?
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 11:40 AM)
wow...first time im hearing of 185/16....

arent people who run on 16" wheels usually use 205 tires? why arent u using that instead? clearance issues?
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stock city 2009 rim bro...even satria neo use 195/55/16...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 12:40 PM)
wow...first time im hearing of 185/16....

arent people who run on 16" wheels usually use 205 tires? why arent u using that instead? clearance issues?
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yes,new city is using 185/16~


QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 12:42 PM)
ai yo...jk only ler.... whistling.gif
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anyway i'm reporting u already~
it's not for joking in here~

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oooooooooo.....new citys running 16s ah?? didnt know that....

but factory tire sizes has a tendency of being a lil weird one la...especially the city...15" oso they use 185... really weird...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 12:46 PM)
oooooooooo.....new citys running 16s ah?? didnt know that....

but factory tire sizes has a tendency of being a lil weird one la...especially the city...15" oso they use 185... really weird...
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got 2 model~
higher model like vtec using 16"
while idsi using 15" tongue.gif
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im gonna get falken ze912, 195/50/15 for rm180/pc...ok or not?
have to change tyres soon...thread left just under 4/32 depth...
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QUOTE(GMS FearLess @ Jun 11 2009, 11:27 AM)
wait?you mean your tyre bocor??
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ya la. bocor. got a sharp edge stone inside. it happened very early in the morning and i was kinda afraid to stop on the roadside. u know cruelity of the car hijackers these days ite? luckily i managed to hold on and also no damage to the rim. otherwise i kinda screw up because i dont think honda sell the rim separately.

cheean,

no go 15. its kinda...horrible? hoho. naaahh, on 16 its nicer. and of course 15 save kinda quite some money, but for the moment, atleast until the time i have to change all of them, its 16 for me. nod.gif but yearh 185,16 is hard to find.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 11 2009, 12:50 PM)
im gonna get falken ze912, 195/50/15 for rm180/pc...ok or not?
have to change tyres soon...thread left just under 4/32 depth...
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no comment~
but u can try ask for free balancing+free new rubber valve if u're a good nego type of ppl~
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@Everdying
check the price for Hankook V8RS....currently using it and so far im impressed with it's dry performance (havent been able to test in the wet yet)


used to use the older Ziex model (ZE326 i think) and i wasnt too impressed with it performance wise, but for normal usage, theyre pretty decent.....

performance wise for falken, id rather stick with the Azenis line.
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jun 11 2009, 12:51 PM)
ya la. bocor. got a sharp edge stone inside. it happened very early in the morning and i was kinda afraid to stop on the roadside. u know cruelity of the car hijackers these days ite? luckily i managed to hold on and also no damage to the rim. otherwise i kinda screw up because i dont think honda sell the rim separately.

cheean,

no go 15. its kinda...horrible? hoho. naaahh, on 16 its nicer. and of course 15 save kinda quite some money, but for the moment, atleast until the time i have to change all of them, its 16 for me.   nod.gif  but yearh 185,16 is hard to find.
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i've seen d 15" not bad thou~
better than 16" on da road where many potholes here n there till normally 16" n above alway get dented especially 'P' licence driver~ laugh.gif



QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 12:52 PM)
@Everdying
check the price for Hankook V8RS....currently using it and so far im impressed with it's dry performance (havent been able to test in the wet yet)
used to use the older Ziex model (ZE326 i think) and i wasnt too impressed with it performance wise,  but for normal usage, theyre pretty decent.....

performance wise for falken, id rather stick with the Azenis line.
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falken azenis kinda pricey also but if i'm not mistaken is no more on production edi~

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QUOTE(AiRBooM @ Jun 11 2009, 12:59 PM)
cheeann , can check with your father's shop... Goodyear Eagle LS 2000 Hybrid II for 225/45/R17 how much per piece ? and for size 215/50/R17 also how much ?
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tis is for discussion thread not checking pricelist thread~
sorry for in convinience n i'll not answer ur question here~
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:54 AM)
falken azenis kinda pricey also but if i'm not mistaken is no more on production edi~
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yeah expensive....the old ST115 EOL already la...

but now got new azenis (forgot model..RT-sumthin)...damn expensive... rated as ultra high performance tires....but not sure if theyre for road use or semi-slicks
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 11:51 AM)
no comment~
but u can try ask for free balancing+free new rubber valve if u're a good nego type of ppl~
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yea, getting free balancing, metal valve.
this one is from eneos 1u.

i wanted to get xm1, but 15" only got 195/60...
right now for 195/50 its between PP2 or 912 la...
but the shop near my place here who sell PP2 want to charge for balancing / nuts / valve somemore...so screw them la.

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 01:09 PM)
yeah expensive....the old ST115 EOL already la...

but now got new azenis (forgot model..RT-sumthin)...damn expensive... rated as ultra high performance tires....but not sure if theyre for road use or semi-slicks
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now waiting for my other ride come back 2 me then i wan 2 upgrade to PP2 cuz XM1 cannot take my style of aggresiveness even thou i've set my car's camber -1.5 all front n back~
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 11 2009, 11:50 AM)
im gonna get falken ze912, 195/50/15 for rm180/pc...ok or not?
have to change tyres soon...thread left just under 4/32 depth...
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Ed, 50 series tyres is damn noisy. That Falken is actually in my consideration as well, but the shop (which is a friend's) recommend A drive (which is in my option) instead. I was looking at 195/55/15 tyres.


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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 11 2009, 12:11 PM)
yea, getting free balancing, metal valve.
this one is from eneos 1u.

i wanted to get xm1, but 15" only got 195/60...
right now for 195/50 its between PP2 or 912 la...
but the shop near my place here who sell PP2 want to charge for balancing / nuts / valve somemore...so screw them la.
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whats the xm1 price they quote u? u have any experience using that?
some random shop quote me 3xx/pc for 15" PP2 wink.gif

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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
Ed, 50 series tyres is damn noisy. That Falken is actually in my consideration as well, but the shop (which is a friend's) recommend A drive (which is in my option) instead. I was looking at 195/55/15 tyres.
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but the shop i talk to say between 195/50 and 195/55 not much of a difference.
afterall the thickness is only 9.75mm difference...plus i can always turn up my ICE tongue.gif
also i was thinking 185/55/15 just to maintain within the 3% rule...but that one for falken they say must special order from japan.

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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 11 2009, 01:25 PM)
Ed, 50 series tyres is damn noisy. That Falken is actually in my consideration as well, but the shop (which is a friend's) recommend A drive (which is in my option) instead. I was looking at 195/55/15 tyres.


Added on June 11, 2009, 12:29 pm

whats the xm1 price they quote u? u have any experience using that?
some random shop quote me 3xx/pc for 15" PP2  wink.gif
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pp2 got so expensive for 195/55-15? ? hmm.gif hmm.gif




QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 11 2009, 01:29 PM)
but the shop i talk to say between 195/50 and 195/55 not much of a difference.
afterall the thickness is only 9.75mm difference...plus i can always turn up my ICE tongue.gif
also i was thinking 185/55/15 just to maintain within the 3% rule...but that one for falken they say must special order from japan.
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indeed 185/55-15 for tat model a bit special~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 11 2009, 12:29 PM)
but the shop i talk to say between 195/50 and 195/55 not much of a difference.
afterall the thickness is only 9.75mm difference...plus i can always turn up my ICE tongue.gif
also i was thinking 185/55/15 just to maintain within the 3% rule...but that one for falken they say must special order from japan.
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I tried both series b4 , it seems that in 55, the noise level is cut down drastically. But the 50 series i'm using sime la tongue.gif Maybe its the brand problem biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(cheeann @ Jun 11 2009, 12:35 PM)
pp2 got so expensive for 195/55-15? ?  hmm.gif  hmm.gif

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Thats wat i think also....simply quote me so high...I just goes off wothout saying a word

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Jun 11 2009, 11:52 AM)
@Everdying
check the price for Hankook V8RS....currently using it and so far im impressed with it's dry performance (havent been able to test in the wet yet)
used to use the older Ziex model (ZE326 i think) and i wasnt too impressed with it performance wise,  but for normal usage, theyre pretty decent.....

performance wise for falken, id rather stick with the Azenis line.
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V8RS is old model isn't it... now new model is evo V12


QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
Ed, 50 series tyres is damn noisy. That Falken is actually in my consideration as well, but the shop (which is a friend's) recommend A drive (which is in my option) instead. I was looking at 195/55/15 tyres.


Added on June 11, 2009, 12:29 pm

whats the xm1 price they quote u? u have any experience using that?
some random shop quote me 3xx/pc for 15" PP2  wink.gif
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PP2 for 195/55 R15 is less than RM250 only... if you are looking for that size... y not try out Hankook V12...
I changed from PP2 to V12... feel softer side wall hence more comfort drive also...
is just like Handling PP2 better...
but in terms of comfort is V12 better...
traction both also very good indeed


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QUOTE(vreis @ Jun 11 2009, 12:25 PM)
whats the xm1 price they quote u? u have any experience using that?
some random shop quote me 3xx/pc for 15" PP2  wink.gif
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currently im on xm1 13" la...so looking for replacement soon...
wanna change to 15" also...and since xm1 15" is got no 50 or 55 series...have to look elsewhere...
for 195/50 my choice came down to PP2 (RM200) or 912 (RM180)...
probably go for the 912...since eneos gives free balancing / metal valve etc...the PP2 shop (MW tyre) must pay for those extras...somemore ask me to pay for the nuts too.

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have anyone tried toyo DRB???

how is it?
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so far no ppl bought that...
maybe economy downturn kua...

so far in AW forum 1 guy bought it or asked the price...

235/40/R18
Toyo DRB - rm 650 ( yet to neqot ) Hup Shun, SS3 (may2009)

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V8RS is old model isn't it... now new model is evo V12
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but read his post... the V12 is definitely gonna be above his budget and he doesnt seem to be looking for high performance tires. just good tires that performs well enough for daily use...

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well V12 i bought at Klang only cost around the Falken price that he mention... RM180...
so i think he can afford tat...
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whoah...if V12 is that cheap than of course id recommend the V12 over the V8....

was expecting the V12 to be more than 200...
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my size on the vios is V12 195/55 R15... RM180...
some place cheaper also...
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im actually surprised that the V12 is that cheap...

my V8 165/50/15 is RM169 in sunway.. so i was expecting the bigger V8 195/55/15 to be around the 180-200 region...and V12 of the same size to be more than 200...


now if only they start having the V12 in my size...was actually looking for it before i accepted the fact that they dont make it in that size and settled for the V8 instead.

n the V8 is still a damn good tire though
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I use BS Potenza-Adrenalin RE001 195/50/15 for my vios.
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comment on wat???

Potenza i haven use b4...
i only can say Michelin PP2 is a good tire on Hydroplanning and Handling...good braking performance also...
ride comfort suffer a bit as the side wall is a lil on hard side... traction also good on dry n wet...
whereas the Hankook V12 is on comfort side which the handling not as good as PP2 in high speed...
traction on both dry n wet also comparable to PP2, so as the braking...
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To all tyres sifus,

Any recommended tyres for Vanette C22? Van drivers needs safety too. So far I'm seeing thread for passenger cars only. Normal van size is 175/70/R13.

For this size I only saw recommended XM1, A Drive & CC-1 being the most popular. But are they suitable for van drivers too? Please enlighten us all.
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Aug 5 2009, 08:57 AM)
WTB 215/45/r17

Potenza re001 vs Yoko S.Drive. Which one is better? Please give me some advice.
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any peformance tyre for 13inch RIM?
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any peformance tyre for 13inch RIM?
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14 got...i oledi sell 185/60/14 re01r for rm300 for 2 piece...95% tread...
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13 inch.... Toyo T1R?
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lol...cata...that one semi slick...cannot kira...laugh.gif
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To all tyres sifus,

Any recommended tyres for Vanette C22? Van drivers needs safety too. So far I'm seeing thread for passenger cars only. Normal van size is 175/70/R13.

For this size I only saw recommended XM1, A Drive & CC-1 being the most popular. But are they suitable for van drivers too? Please enlighten us all.
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13 inch.... Toyo T1R?
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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Aug 6 2009, 01:02 PM)
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Hi there guys...
Is yokohama AD07 (195/55/15) still available in the market right now...?
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QUOTE(mirin @ Aug 6 2009, 06:38 PM)
Hi there guys...
Is yokohama AD07 (195/55/15) still available in the market right now...?
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wait for ad08 better... brows.gif
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ad07 stock vr hard to find d...
wait for ad08 better...  brows.gif
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Erk, if AD08 klua, confirm out of budget punya coz item still new in da market...

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Erk, if AD08 klua, confirm out of budget punya coz item still new in da market...
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15 rm5++ at japan price...
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Waaaa...
Very expensive, confirm cannot afford...
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QUOTE(mirin @ Aug 7 2009, 12:00 AM)
Waaaa...
Very expensive, confirm cannot afford...
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re001 is not bad...195/50/15 at rm260...sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 7 2009, 09:56 PM)
re001 is not bad...195/50/15 at rm260...sweat.gif
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u will suffer on parada spec 2...laugh.gif
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parada spec 2 worse den pp2 ka??...
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parada spec 2 worse den pp2 ka??...
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 7 2009, 11:48 PM)
yes...if pp2 got 7/10...parada got 5/10...laugh.gif
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yes...if pp2 got 7/10...parada got 5/10...laugh.gif
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so teruk ka??  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 7 2009, 11:31 PM)
parada spec 2 worse den pp2 ka??...
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Parada Spec 2 Tayar bising mah~ laugh.gif

Should be bsing than PP2.

But i tot PP2 is tayar orang kaya? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Aug 8 2009, 01:49 PM)
Parada Spec 2 Tayar bising mah~ laugh.gif

Should be bsing than PP2.

But i tot PP2 is tayar orang kaya? hmm.gif
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mahalnya... my next tyre try parada spec 2 enuff la den...  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 8 2009, 11:33 AM)
the sidewalls is soft...overall is so so oni...
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QUOTE(ronzai89 @ Aug 8 2009, 01:49 PM)
But i tot PP2 is tayar orang kaya? hmm.gif
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pp2 normal normal only la... re001 la tayar orang kaya....

QUOTE(ceo684 @ Aug 8 2009, 02:07 PM)
PP2 low maintainance mah.. pressure holds for longer compared to GY/Parada 2


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tat Parada 2 is cheap for a reason.. its an uncle comfy tyre with aggressive looking tread oni
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tu cosmetic sudah menang lo...

how come pp2 can hold pressure longer compare to parada2??...
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i had PP2 front and Parada S2 on from early last yr till mid this year.
PP2 is indeed quiet, and good gripping at hard corner on dry.

Now i have the Parada infront and PP2 goes at the back.
Its true that its noisy, but i feel its more grippy than PP2 on hard braking.
Saved me few times from faggots that simply change lane w/o signals

*I drive an olde non-vtec civic, on 15"
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parada spec 2 worse den pp2 ka??...
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need extra pressure if u wan 2 pek cornar~
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QUOTE(e-jump @ Aug 8 2009, 06:56 PM)
i had PP2 front and Parada S2 on from early last yr till mid this year.
PP2 is indeed quiet, and good gripping at hard corner on dry.

Now i have the Parada infront and PP2 goes at the back.
Its true that its noisy, but i feel its more grippy than PP2 on hard braking.
Saved me few times from faggots that simply change lane w/o signals

*I drive an olde non-vtec civic, on 15"
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i seconded that. Yokohama fan here. their tyres are well known for grip.
but Parada's soft sidewall pattern is a big let down sweat.gif
i personally prefer C.drive and S.drive. noisy tyre but good in karak highway thumbup.gif
currently trying Yokohama AVS 205/55/r15 rear to go with the 195/55/r15 C.drive front.
btw, last time using PP2, thread can't last as long as those from Yokohama.

guys, any feedback about this Kumho Ecsta SPT tyre?

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QUOTE(e-jump @ Aug 8 2009, 06:56 PM)
i had PP2 front and Parada S2 on from early last yr till mid this year.
PP2 is indeed quiet, and good gripping at hard corner on dry.

Now i have the Parada infront and PP2 goes at the back.
Its true that its noisy, but i feel its more grippy than PP2 on hard braking.
Saved me few times from faggots that simply change lane w/o signals

*I drive an olde non-vtec civic, on 15"
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oh... parada s2 good on dry because semi slick alike threads... what i worrying is the soft sidewall only... i tried pushing it with my thumb, soft... but in other hand on my pp2, hard...

QUOTE(cheeann @ Aug 8 2009, 07:05 PM)
side wall soft only~
need extra pressure if u wan 2 pek cornar~
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There IS a diff between hard sidewall normal pressure VS soft sidewall high pressure.. I prefer the former.

Grip wise Parada compound is good for short braking distance vs NCT5, but predictability wise I am more comfortable with NCT5 - although NCT5 compound sucks but when u pump it hard, its sidewalls becomes hard - whereas Parada even up to 300kpa also feel very lembap, tyre flex alot, I also had to back off.. whereas with NCT5/PP2 i feel v comfortable to layan the same corner.

Dare not put 350kpa cos the Parada being so called performance tyre did not state max inflation pressure anywhere on the tyre doh.gif cmon yokohama..even NCT5 also got max pressure stated there lah

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i guess big cars aint suitable to use parada spec 2 due to its soft sidewall unable to handle the weight of the car and stress during lateral load....

lightweight cars should have less problems with it...
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So is there any other tyres that can match AD07 hard sidewall...?
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bro ceo684, NCT5 you dare to do hard corner... haha... good luck...
careful when it is raining... even drizzling...

PP2 will give you the confidence coz of the harder side wall compare to NCT5...
it give u good handling and it will grip well on heavy rains also... don fool by the traditional pattern on a UHP tire...

PP2 is not means rich man tire... if u use 17" rim sure rich... good tire will cost u a bomb... smile.gif
haha... of course u will see a lot of "nice" tire fitted on the 17" rim... especially Ah Beng car...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 11 2009, 11:50 AM)
PP2 is not means rich man tire... if u use 17" rim sure rich... good tire will cost u a bomb... smile.gif
haha... of course u will see a lot of "nice" tire fitted on the 17" rim... especially Ah Beng car...
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haha... well you know lo... ppl wanna buy cheaper stuff mah...
there is demand and so there is a chance for those brand to survive...
ppl don really know mah until they really use once good/well known tires then they will feel it... smile.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 11 2009, 01:21 PM)
many unknown brand will surface  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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Well, some cheap tires aint as bad as u guys think. Consider trying Maxxis and Federal, value for money. smile.gif
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well Federal i heard is model 535 ar... not that bad...
but of course there is some pros and cons...
Hankook V12 also not that bad... but Noise is a bit louder than PP2 at new...
well depends lo... as long as it provides me good grip in wet and dry...
but like NCT5 which is very poor in Hydroplanning... smile.gif
which is F**king dangerous... especially you always drive more than 80km/h and also ppl whom always traveling up and down slopes and hills...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 11 2009, 04:09 PM)
well Federal i heard is model 535 ar... not that bad...
but of course there is some pros and cons...
Hankook V12 also not that bad... but Noise is a bit louder than PP2 at new...
well depends lo... as long as it provides me good grip in wet and dry...
but like NCT5 which is very poor in Hydroplanning...  smile.gif
which is F**king dangerous... especially you always drive more than 80km/h and also ppl whom always traveling up and down slopes and hills...
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to me noise is not the main prob...cos my car oledi noisy...tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 11 2009, 04:31 PM)
to me noise is not the main prob...cos my car oledi noisy...tongue.gif
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that rsr magic is damn noisy...
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 11 2009, 04:22 PM)
595 la...
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 11 2009, 04:30 PM)
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federal 595 berapa??.. dat day saw got 195/45/r15 size... tempted sial... wub.gif
it killed me before sad.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 11 2009, 12:50 PM)
bro ceo684, NCT5 you dare to do hard corner... haha... good luck...
careful when it is raining... even drizzling...

PP2 will give you the confidence coz of the harder side wall compare to NCT5...
it give u good handling and it will grip well on heavy rains also... don fool by the traditional pattern on a UHP tire...

PP2 is not means rich man tire... if u use 17" rim sure rich... good tire will cost u a bomb... smile.gif
haha... of course u will see a lot of "nice" tire fitted on the 17" rim... especially Ah Beng car...
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i've seen him driving+tackling corner at high speed in pp2 n nct5 cornering n perform much better than his latest yokohama parada~ laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 11 2009, 05:54 PM)
for my size, 225/45/17 was 290. ask Oly, his place kinda cheap.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 11 2009, 05:11 PM)
federal 595 berapa??.. dat day saw got 195/45/r15 size... tempted sial... wub.gif
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u sure got that size?..

after checking...got...tongue.gif

QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 11 2009, 05:54 PM)
for my size, 225/45/17 was 290. ask Oly, his place kinda cheap.
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 11 2009, 09:34 PM)
u sure got that size?..

after checking...got...tongue.gif
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dat day drift event in melaka... got drifter brought it along... brand new lagi... haha..
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weird size maa...
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weird size maa...
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sifu, any recommendation for 225/45r18 and 245/45r18 tires? PP2 is pilot power rite? how much is it? but i remember its not available for that size tho sad.gif
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QUOTE(Taman Linkin @ Aug 12 2009, 02:14 AM)
sifu, any recommendation for 225/45r18 and 245/45r18 tires? PP2 is pilot power rite? how much is it? but i remember its not available for that size tho sad.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 12 2009, 02:39 AM)
pp2 is pilot preceda la... apa pilot power...  doh.gif
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hahaha.. i couldn't stop laughing.. PP2. Pilot Power 2.

Anyway, PP2 vs T1R or A-Drive R1? Can this 3 tires be compare together?
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Aug 12 2009, 08:54 AM)
hahaha.. i couldn't stop laughing.. PP2. Pilot Power 2.

Anyway, PP2 vs T1R or A-Drive R1? Can this 3 tires be compare together?
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QUOTE(Taman Linkin @ Aug 12 2009, 02:14 AM)
sifu, any recommendation for 225/45r18 and 245/45r18 tires? PP2 is pilot power rite? how much is it? but i remember its not available for that size tho sad.gif
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Pilot Preceda 2 which is the lowest in Pilot Range... don get cheated by its thread look... it is pretty good...

225/45/R18
Michelin PP2 - RM770
Falken ZE 912 RM575 at Continental sungai besi hi-way near U-turn (Date ???)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050 (Japan) - RM960.00 - CN TWO SERVICES Ulu Klang (24/3/2009)
Michelin PP2 - RM690, Goodyear Jalan Tiong hua, Kluang April 09


hmmm... y T1R b4 PP2??? i asked some of the shops b4... they said side thread wore off quite fast for that...
have not try that... PP2 thread wear ok la... around 35k km... you have to rotate it every 3 month or so...
it lasted me around 1yr and 3 months... i did around 30k km... i drove to SG 3 times and KL-Ipoh-Penang monthly... smile.gif
A Drive R1(Performance only) cannot compare with that 2 different Categories... PP2 and T1R is UHP...

BTW i live at Kelana Jaya that time... do U-turn a lot... so wearing on the left must monitor...

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avoid falken ZE-912 please...suck...


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Falken 912... haha... not that bad lo as said by some AW Forummer...
it is not UHP tires... gripping is not fantastic like UHP and extreme tires...
if you want comfort and low profile then this is one of it...
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how about Eagle RS huh? i'm looking to get those la.. 225/45/17.. got a friend offered me just RM375 each. yum yum yum...
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eagle rs quite hard to get...if u can find one...go for it...nice tires...
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really? i can get a lot leh.. ehehe but 225/45/17 la. biggrin.gif around 375 to 400 each.

my fren using it for his drift car... very nice grip.. very predictable and best of all, it's better in the wet than NEOVA!
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neova is suck on wet...tongue.gif

got for 16?..try to ask for me...205/50/16...
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well but if you really go for Extreme tires do not expect the grip in the wet will be good... smile.gif
driving at 80km/h during heavy downpour consider dangerous
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last time using re001...doing 200 on wet at sepang track...brows.gif
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 12 2009, 10:31 AM)
last time using re001...doing 200 on wet at sepang track...brows.gif
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Neova really sucks in the wet. ehehehe..

i'll try and ask about the 16s. if got, i'll PM u man.
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RE01r is the best...better than ad07...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 12 2009, 10:16 AM)
Falken 912... haha... not that bad lo as said by some AW Forummer...
it is not UHP tires... gripping is not fantastic like UHP and extreme tires...
if you want comfort and low profile then this is one of it...
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Got a friend recently purchased Falken 912 for his Satria. When in the car, I think the tires are quite comfortable and he also said the grip is good. Price is affordable too. Maybe I'm switching to this for my car too.

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falken 912 only good til about 60%. believe me.. u will regret it.
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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 12 2009, 10:40 AM)
Got a friend recently purchased Falken 912 for his Satria. When in the car, I think the tires are quite comfortable and he also said the grip is good. Price is affordable too. Maybe I'm switching to this for my car too.
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well see what is your size... if you are using 55 series... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
good for comfort + a bit if performance tire... but a bit noisy la... smile.gif

QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 12 2009, 10:41 AM)
falken 912 only good til about 60%. believe me.. u will regret it.
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we it depends what you wan... what is the speed you normally drives...
My dad XM1 is good for him... no need others woh...
me i feel that PP2 is best of me... handling in both dry and wet... and good aquaplaning... smile.gif

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my dad still want potenza series...he now use turanza...he said its sucks...all my family car on bridgestone actually...moms car on potenza re030...my bro on re001...hilux on dueler...dads car on turanza...me once on re001...

912 more to comfort...
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hehe... all my dad's car is fitted with Michelin... even his KE70 which recently change back to Sime...
my family and i nag him about that... coz old old car still use Michelin which cost RM130/pc...
Vios - Hankook V12... previously 1.5 set PP2 after the stock NCT5
Avanza - After Stock straight Michelin XM1
SEG - After stock all the while Michelin XM1 till now 15" PP2...
VW - Continental i change that wanna try out Conti CC1 vs Mich XM1...
KE70 - Michelin after he bought back... then recently changed to Sime...

so all the while is prefer to use Michelin coz soft and good amount of grip for normal + occasionally aggressive driving...
all my record which i had done during my 17~20 yo time are Michelin XM1 13"... hehe...

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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 12 2009, 10:31 AM)
last time using re001...doing 200 on wet at sepang track...brows.gif
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When its new, yes, you can do that, but once reaching 60 or 50% of its lifespan, i have a hard time maintain grip in wet even at 120kmh. Even sunnyboi can drift with a 90% re001 in wet in 5th gear. tongue.gif
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thats why i oledi selling it...whistling.gif
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haha... better u go for Michelin PP2 then... after safety mark it still grip when i drive it during raining...
of course i'll not drive more than 100km/h if the tire wears until that stage la...
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didnt prefer pp2 since tread wear is quite high...wanna test federal...
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federal some good feedback from the AW forummers also...
duno about the real gripping after 50%... but PP2 serve me well on that...
you really can use until the wear indicator safety mark... i use more than that actually...
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maybe after federal and pocket stable oni wanna try pp2...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 12 2009, 01:28 PM)
haha... better u go for Michelin PP2 then... after safety mark it still grip when i drive it during raining...
of course i'll not drive more than 100km/h if the tire wears until that stage la...
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yea... the price is a bit steep... i used in total 3 set already...
but the quality did not disappointed... smile.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 12 2009, 03:09 PM)
yea... the price is a bit steep... i used in total 3 set already...
but the quality did not disappointed... smile.gif
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its okay, but not for me when i push it to the limit since i travel touge/trunk roads a lot. smile.gif
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PP2 not for the shallow pocket. ehehehe.. simple as that..

as for me, i've been on Evol8 since 2007. changed 2 times already. grip very good, even in wet. price? a lot cheaper than others, even cheaper than Federal. biggrin.gif

for performance, i'm only sold on 2 tyres, RE01R and Eagle RS. used to trust Neova until i spun out in the middle lane, in the middle of nowhere (Sepang - Nilai hiway) at 60kmh in light drizzle. phew.... nightmare still! hahahaha


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i know someone who by ad07 on dry season,sell it after 2 month when rain season coming,bought re001 for rain season,then sell it again after 2 month use and dry season coming and bought ad07 again...tongue.gif
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Bro oly, where to buy good priced RE001s in Ipoh? Heard someone say Batu Gajah is very cheap but never try
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QUOTE(Oly @ Aug 12 2009, 04:38 PM)
i know someone who by ad07 on dry season,sell it after 2 month when rain season coming,bought re001 for rain season,then sell it again after 2 month use and dry season coming and bought ad07 again...tongue.gif
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fuh... crazy... print money is he?
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QUOTE(jeremy0 @ Aug 12 2009, 04:44 PM)
Bro oly, where to buy good priced RE001s in Ipoh? Heard someone say Batu Gajah is very cheap but never try
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actually re001 average price everywhere is plus minus rm30...

QUOTE(sakaito @ Aug 12 2009, 04:45 PM)
fuh... crazy... print money is he?
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dunno la him...but 15 inch size one la...
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beb... just got info.. 205/55/16 Eagle RS can get.. u want aa?
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beb... just got info.. 205/55/16 Eagle RS can get.. u want aa?
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dont think so...too thick...
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Aug 12 2009, 03:38 PM)
its okay, but not for me when i push it to the limit since i travel touge/trunk roads a lot. smile.gif
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aiya... trunk road you must not use extreme tires more dangerous...
light drizzling also dangerous... but all tires purchase is very personal indeed...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 12 2009, 10:44 AM)
well see what is your size... if you are using 55 series... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
good for comfort + a bit if performance tire... but a bit noisy la... smile.gif
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Me normal driver only. Highway 130-140km/h only. I want comfort tire. Zoom down to either Yokohama or Falken. Hankook? First time heard that name, haha. Michelin too expensive for me lah, other ppl I know la print money everyday ;p

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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 12 2009, 05:36 PM)
Me normal driver only. Highway 130-140km/h only. I want comfort tire. Zoom down to either Yokohama or Falken. Hankook? First time heard that name, haha. Michelin too expensive for me lah, other ppl I know la print money everyday ;p
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How about Michelin LC. 15"
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 12 2009, 02:39 AM)
pp2 is pilot preceda la... apa pilot power...  doh.gif
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Aug 12 2009, 08:54 AM)
hahaha.. i couldn't stop laughing.. PP2. Pilot Power 2.

Anyway, PP2 vs T1R or A-Drive R1? Can this 3 tires be compare together?
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it exist noob tongue.gif Pilot Power dun be mad, just kidding. i know wat is pp2 smile.gif but i make you two heppi, so all good i guess.
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Pilot Preceda 2 which is the lowest in Pilot Range... don get cheated by its thread look... it is pretty good...

225/45/R18
Michelin PP2 - RM770
Falken ZE 912 RM575 at Continental sungai besi hi-way near U-turn (Date ???)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050 (Japan) - RM960.00 - CN TWO SERVICES Ulu Klang (24/3/2009)
Michelin PP2 - RM690, Goodyear Jalan Tiong hua, Kluang April 09
hmmm... y T1R b4 PP2??? i asked some of the shops b4... they said side thread wore off quite fast for that...
have not try that... PP2 thread wear ok la... around 35k km... you have to rotate it every 3 month or so...
it lasted me around 1yr and 3 months... i did around 30k km... i drove to SG 3 times and KL-Ipoh-Penang monthly... smile.gif
A Drive R1(Performance only) cannot compare with that 2 different Categories... PP2 and T1R is UHP...

BTW i live at Kelana Jaya that time... do U-turn a lot... so wearing on the left must monitor...
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so far on 15" rim i've used...

nct5 < cct-1 < pp2

pp2 has vr normal looking thread... but it performs well due to its material and hard sidewall... pp2 quite predictable, though so far i havent driven it to the limits on the street...

comfort contact 1... predictable tyres as well... but grip is less than pp2... used to drive it till its limits...

nct5... quite bad... had a horrible accident due to it... once it loses grip, it skids like nobody business... and once it locks up, no traction at all...
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bro NCT Family very bad la... don buy that... most of the GY lower family is not good...
the top range family is good... like GY Eagle F1 & F1 Assy... that is different story...
if you wan to have comfort and you are using 55 series for R15 and above... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
it is directional thread and you have to bear with the noise as is it louder than PP2 if both in NEW...
otherwise it's grip nearly on par with PP2 in Dry and Wet condition... aquaplaning is around 90% if PP2...
price wise it is quite cheap indeed if i compare my size 195/55 R15 the difference is RM50... so quite ok lo...

I just change CC1 onto VW golf 1.6l... not bad in general but i got know that the tires sometimes will have problem...
it is side wall become uneven (bulge) if you hit a lot of potholes... so careful lo...
as i'm not driving this car long distance so it is ok...

QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 12 2009, 05:36 PM)
Me normal driver only. Highway 130-140km/h only. I want comfort tire. Zoom down to either Yokohama or Falken. Hankook? First time heard that name, haha. Michelin too expensive for me lah, other ppl I know la print money everyday ;p
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Yes Hankook, it is like Falken 912 in price range but better in handling and also it is directional thread... RM185 for 195/55 R15...
not bad in term of performance vs price ration as PP2 at that size will cost you around RM240...
you can try Primacy LC also from Michelin as the price range is around RM210...
Hankook is cheapest but the cons is directional thread tends to creates more vocal than 2 of the Michelin PP2 and Primacy LC...
Michelin have the good reputation in my heart as this Hankook V12 set that i'm using is the 1st set out of Michelin...
It give me good confidence to corners until now in dry and wet also... not hard cornering... around 80km/h kua...
PP2 give me more confidence indeed on handling and cornering... Aquaplaning also it is the best in the UHP range...
trust me... PP2 will give you all they have even you reach the safety marks...
My SEG PP2 once pass the safety mark i still drive around even heavy rains...
although not pass 80km/h but it still give you the grip...

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i thought Eagle F1 no more in production?
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not sure... but there are still stock...
what i mean is the GY lower range tire is not good for driving...
for slow slow driving ok... but like city driving is not alrite... coz our cruising speed is quite fast...
it does not give you the gripping that you need during you brake hard...
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so far on 15" rim i've used...

nct5 < cct-1 < pp2

pp2 has vr normal looking thread... but it performs well due to its material and hard sidewall... pp2 quite predictable, though so far i havent driven it to the limits on the street...

comfort contact 1... predictable tyres as well... but grip is less than pp2... used to drive it till its limits...

nct5... quite bad... had a horrible accident due to it... once it loses grip, it skids like nobody business... and once it locks up, no traction at all...
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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 13 2009, 11:48 AM)
parada spec 2 no good?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 13 2009, 09:56 AM)
Yes Hankook, it is like Falken 912 in price range but better in handling and also it is directional thread... RM185 for 195/55 R15...
not bad in term of performance vs price ration as PP2 at that size will cost you around RM240...
you can try Primacy LC also from Michelin as the price range is around RM210...
Hankook is cheapest but the cons is directional thread tends to creates more vocal than 2 of the Michelin PP2 and Primacy LC...
Michelin have the good reputation in my heart as this Hankook V12 set that i'm using is the 1st set out of Michelin...
It give me good confidence to corners until now in dry and wet also... not hard cornering... around 80km/h kua...
PP2 give me more confidence indeed on handling and cornering... Aquaplaning also it is the best in the UHP range...
trust me... PP2 will give you all they have even you reach the safety marks...
My SEG PP2 once pass the safety mark i still drive around even heavy rains...
although not pass 80km/h but it still give you the grip...
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Wow, thanks bro! That's a wealth of information.

Anyway, the mere mention of "noise" or "more noisier than x-brand" will trigger a small alarm in me. Since I really want a quieter tire than my current Bridgestone Potenza RE080 (stock from Toyota).

So any ranking of quietness from Yokohama to Falken to Hankook to Michelin?

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nope it depends...

Falken 912 still very quiet compares to Hankook V12... coz it is soft tire not UHP...
Yokohama depends which you get... A drive and C drive is also same cat. with 912...
but not S drive... it give you good vocal... haha...
Michelin XM1 and Primacy LC is a quiet tires and give you decent amount of grip...
Primacy LC is new launched... the target is Luxury Passenger cat...
Toyota Vios??? 185/60 R15??? you can switch to 195/60 R15 or 195/55 R15...
if you want quiet tires i recommend to you to get 195/60 R15...
on that size you can get Yokies A/C drive, Mich XM1/Primacy LC, Falken 912 and Conti Premium Contact...
Mich, Yokies & Conti is abit higher in price while Falken is lowest...
what is your driving style? What is your driving criteria...
Comfort, Noise, Handling???

Noise is important hence you will not get really performance tire...
but PP2 noise is quite decent compare to Hankook V12 and Yokohama S Drive...
which both noise is slightly higher... Hankook has softer side wall towards comfort...
while Yokohama S drive has harder side wall...
when you saw the thread don get cheated by PP2 traditional design...
it gives you good amount of grip in Dry and Wet...
last but not least it has it best aquaplaning performance in UHP categories...
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Yes, my Vios is has 185 tire which is non-standard. I don't mind switching to 195 for slightly better handling (and infinitely small FC decrease).

Driving style? Non-aggressive. Comfortable highway speed is 130km/h. I do notice 185/R15 tire is not too good when cornering at Karak highway.

So what I want? Priority is Comfort. Then handling slightly better than Bridgestone Potenza RE080 is already OK (since I don't do sharp cornering every day).
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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:18 PM)
Yes, my Vios is has 185 tire which is non-standard. I don't mind switching to 195 for slightly better handling (and infinitely small FC decrease).

Driving style? Non-aggressive. Comfortable highway speed is 130km/h. I do notice 185/R15 tire is not too good when cornering at Karak highway.

So what I want? Priority is Comfort. Then handling slightly better than Bridgestone Potenza RE080 is already OK (since I don't do sharp cornering every day).
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u go for 195/50 series...potenza re030 and 080 series is actually good...im using re030 on myvi...quite nice to me...if got extra budget go for re001 ka...
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I thot Re001 is performance tire, so very noisy?
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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:29 PM)
I thot Re001 is performance tire, so very noisy?
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not noisy...if u want comfort...go for re030 or re080...
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I checked falkentire.com and the 912 threading looks very impressive.
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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:35 PM)
I checked falkentire.com and the 912 threading looks very impressive.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 13 2009, 09:56 AM)
bro NCT Family very bad la... don buy that... most of the GY lower family is not good...
the top range family is good... like GY Eagle F1 & F1 Assy... that is different story...
if you wan to have comfort and you are using 55 series for R15 and above... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
it is directional thread and you have to bear with the noise as is it louder than PP2 if both in NEW...
otherwise it's grip nearly on par with PP2 in Dry and Wet condition... aquaplaning is around 90% if PP2...
price wise it is quite cheap indeed if i compare my size 195/55 R15 the difference is RM50... so quite ok lo...
although not pass 80km/h but it still give you the grip...
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Aug 13 2009, 10:41 AM)
oh,i tot u said pp2 lousy edi? ? ?  rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 13 2009, 10:48 AM)
parada spec 2 no good?
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soft sidewall mar unker... wira heavy car... some more u join GRA...
but if u get used to the tyre flex, the dry level grip should be great for GRA...
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OK many ppl complain too soft, what does it mean? Sorry, total noob here, hahaha
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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:29 PM)
I thot Re001 is performance tire, so very noisy?
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when you come to the noise term is very subjective... coz diff ppl have diff requirement...
you try to use PP2 i think that tire is ok for you... it have harder side wall, but wit ur suspension it should be ok...
I used with my Vios 05 2 set... ok la... slightly bumpy... since new Vios will be more softer it should be ok...
the noise will increase after 50% of wear but still ok for me... smile.gif

soft tire also... since you did not corner hard you can use softer side wall tire also...
Michelin Primacy LC, Yokohaam C Drive, Falken 912, Hankook V12...
Hankook V12 and Falken 912 is cheaper around RM180 can get already...
Yokohama C Drive and Michelin Primacy LC is a bit expensive... RM200 and above...

QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 13 2009, 02:42 PM)
i tried 55 series on my current suspension... damn bumpy... i sendiri also pening after few hours of driving... rclxub.gif
now after 50% of the tyre, heavy rain dun dare go above 140kmh d lo... especially if hit some standing water sure sway... lolz...
soft sidewall mar unker... wira heavy car... some more u join GRA...
but if u get used to the tyre flex, the dry level grip should be great for GRA...
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bro what you wan... after 50% and you are driving 140 woh... haha... very fast leh... smile.gif
but it is better than other kind in this UHP categories la...

which tire you tired??? PP2??? try Hankook V12... which has softer side wall you will not feel bumpy... smile.gif

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QUOTE(my44 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:43 PM)
OK many ppl complain too soft, what does it mean? Sorry, total noob here, hahaha
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we are talking about soft sidewall... this will affects ur handling characteristics.... having soft sidewall tyres is like using high profile tyres... sidewall flexes upon cornering due to lateral force induced on the outer wheel/tyre during cornering g-forces.... datz why performance cars usually have lower profile tyres which eventually u will have less tyre flex... hence, u will have more predictable and precise cornering...

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 13 2009, 02:57 PM)
when you come to the noise term is very subjective... coz diff ppl have diff requirement...
you try to use PP2 i think that tire is ok for you... it have harder side wall, but wit ur suspension it should be ok...
I used with my Vios 05 2 set... ok la... slightly bumpy... since new Vios will be more softer it should be ok...
the noise will increase after 50% of wear but still ok for me... smile.gif

soft tire also... since you did not corner hard you can use softer side wall tire also...
Michelin Primacy LC, Yokohaam C Drive, Falken 912, Hankook V12...
Hankook V12 and Falken 912 is cheaper around RM180 can get already...
Yokohama C Drive and Michelin Primacy LC is a bit expensive... RM200 and above...
bro what you wan... after 50% and you are driving 140 woh... haha... very fast leh... smile.gif
but it is better than other kind in this UHP categories la...

which tire you tired??? PP2??? try Hankook V12... which has softer side wall you will not feel bumpy... smile.gif
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but bumpy la...
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I like my Potenza-Adrenalin RE001 195/50/15.
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Aug 13 2009, 03:29 PM)
we are talking about soft sidewall... this will affects ur handling characteristics.... having soft sidewall tyres is like using high profile tyres... sidewall flexes upon cornering due to lateral force induced on the outer wheel/tyre during cornering g-forces.... datz why performance cars usually have lower profile tyres which eventually u will have less tyre flex... hence, u will have more predictable and precise cornering...
oh... dat 55 series was on nct5... lolz... didnt like the thick tyres anyway.... if can wanna get 45 series.... tongue.gif
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how is 55 compared to 50 series? in term of comfort/ handling ?
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55 more to comfort...50 to handling...
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comfort or not still depends on the tire characteristic la...
if think if Hankook V12 on 50 series also it will be quite ok...
since the side wall is softer than PP2...

@the_catacombs,
NCT5 don say la... 45 series sure u don wanna go thru those bumpy roads...
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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 13 2009, 05:52 PM)
Archiless semi-slicks manufactured 06/09 195/50/15 i have 8 pieces, letting go rm 320 per piece  brows.gif

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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 13 2009, 05:52 PM)
Archiless semi-slicks manufactured 06/09 195/50/15 i have 8 pieces, letting go rm 320 per piece  brows.gif

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wait... eh... my Eagle RS cost just a bit more only. biggrin.gif ehehe
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with that price...i better buy toyo r888...
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QUOTE(fstrader @ Aug 13 2009, 05:52 PM)
Archiless semi-slicks manufactured 06/09 195/50/15 i have 8 pieces, letting go rm 320 per piece  brows.gif

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hi all sifu, i'm totally noob and know nothing on choosing tire. currently my ride(previously was my bro's ride) -wira with 16" sport rims which using sime tire is getting older. planned to change new tire. my budget is around 200-250 per pcs.. so which 1 will be recommended..?

my driving style - semi aggressive. sometimes like to do cornering as i will go genting twice in a week(working as technician).. sime tire = thumbs down. @@ scary~ sometimes drive fast but safe.. hope some sifus here can lead me the way for choosing the right one. thank you..

btw, i'm staying at puchong. any shop reccomended..?

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cheap and good...federal 595...


Added on August 16, 2009, 3:18 amat my place rm240 with balancing...205/50/16...

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very hard to get that price for 16"...
you can try Federal or Hankook V12...
Hankook V12 only cost around RM250 at 205/45 R16
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I need your suggestions on tyres for my Unser.
My Unser uses 195/70/14 tyres.
Which brand is suitable for the Unser?

One shop sell Michelin XM1 for RM220 each.
Another shop sell Bridgestone AR10 for RM255 each.
Some shops do not have stock for this tyre size.
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that size is quite odd... maybe you can upgrade to 15" or 16"
i think you can get more choice on that size... smile.gif
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may i know what is the quietest tire i can find for 195/60/15?
budget around 200 per tire. possible?

im looking at yokohama a.drive currently but if anyone has better idea, i will apprecaite the input
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at that kind of budget...
you can choose... Falken 912, Yokohama A drive, Michelin XM1 only...
if you can raise a lil maybe RM240~250... you can look for Yokohama C Drive or Michelin Primacy LC
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Aug 27 2009, 08:58 AM)
that size is quite odd... maybe you can upgrade to 15" or 16"
i think you can get more choice on that size... smile.gif
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How much does it cost to upgrade to 15" or 16" rims?

Might as well just go for the 14" XM1 tyres.
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i just bought yokohama cdrive 195/50/15 82v for my satria.

is it a great tire in dry ? for occasional drag
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my peugeot 406 currently runs on Dunlop SP Sport 230 195/65/r15 all round.

planning to get my tires changed since all wear out quite badly already. i was thinking of turanza AR10 first.. but i heard its noisy.. now thinking of getting michelin primacy LC.

any better tires you guys would recommend for my car? and also is the yokohama range better than the michelin primacy LC? i'm looking for comfort and low noise/silent tires.. budget not a issue.. please advice guys.. tq
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QUOTE(zftrans @ Aug 27 2009, 11:42 PM)
my peugeot 406 currently runs on Dunlop SP Sport 230 195/65/r15 all round.

planning to get my tires changed since all wear out quite badly already. i was thinking of turanza AR10 first.. but i heard its noisy.. now thinking of getting michelin primacy LC.

any better tires you guys would recommend for my car? and also is the yokohama range better than the michelin primacy LC? i'm looking for comfort and low noise/silent tires.. budget not a issue.. please advice guys.. tq
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whats the best and cheap 17" tire out there?
i wan to change mine becos the treads is getting flatter and flatter..
feels out of control sometimes when cruising high speed.. no grip at all
don tell me neova becos out of my budget..
just cheapo and reliable will do
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WTA is it good to continue driving after the tyre botak? icon_question.gif
due to budget constraint i delayed to change my tyre...
now fully botak liao and i often pump air... is that a botak tyre tend to leak more air? icon_question.gif

just now driving to work, the car sway away when running over a large spot of trap water... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(cucubud @ Aug 27 2009, 06:06 PM)
How much does it cost to upgrade to 15" or 16" rims?

Might as well just go for the 14" XM1 tyres.
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well you can just get XM1 for your tires... for rim upgrade you can go to Klang... they hv a lots of 2nd rim there...
not that expensive... got my Ori Toyota Avanza 15" for RM400 if not mistaken... maybe they can go lower now...

QUOTE(bluhapp @ Aug 27 2009, 06:48 PM)
i just bought yokohama cdrive 195/50/15 82v  for my satria.

is it a great tire in dry ? for occasional drag
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still ok ok lo... that tire is more towards comfort... if you wanna have more grip in the dry or wet...
you have to use Michelin PP2 or Yokohama S Drive which have good traction in both condition...... or Hankook V12 for a lil more comfort...
this 3 tires is under UHP categories... if you wanna have dry tires... you can try out Bridgestone Adrenalin...


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whats the best and cheap 17" tire out there?
i wan to change mine becos the treads is getting flatter and flatter..
feels out of control sometimes when cruising high speed.. no grip at all
don tell me neova becos out of my budget..
just cheapo and reliable will do
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cheap??? how cheap??? Hankok V12, Falken 912, Federal 595... try out these... what is your size??? 17" wat?

QUOTE(! Love Money @ Aug 28 2009, 02:29 AM)
WTA is it good to continue driving after the tyre botak? icon_question.gif
due to budget constraint i delayed to change my tyre...
now fully botak liao and i often pump air... is that a botak tyre tend to leak more air? icon_question.gif

just now driving to work, the car sway away when running over a large spot of trap water... shakehead.gif
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size please... what type of tire you want? comfort, handling??? do you mind it is a bit noisy???
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Can some one recomend me a 16' tyre for my persona?
my priority is

1) Quiet
2) Good road grip
3) Reasonable price

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195/60 R15 ori size isn't it???
you can maintain the size and change to Michelin XM1, Falken 912 or Yokohama A Drive that is for comfort and quiet ride...
for a bit expensive i believe you can try Michelin Primacy, Yokohama C Drive or Continental Premium Contact series...

if you changed to 205/50 R16 already... comfort ride is a bit hard... haha... coz 50 series tires quite hard...
you have Falken 912 on the cheaper size and Michelin Primacy LC on the lil expensive side...
depends which you want my fren...

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im looking for 205/45/17...i wan comfort +quiet+handling
budget RM400+- each tyre
i hv no ideal with it....=.=
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Get the BS Potenza-Adrenalin RE001.But,no comfort.Have a try....
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QUOTE(rabbit3773 @ Aug 28 2009, 09:55 AM)
im looking for 205/45/17...i wan comfort +quiet+handling
budget RM400+- each tyre
i hv no ideal with it....=.=
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Comfort and quiet too... smile.gif
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QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 28 2009, 03:13 AM)
whats the best and cheap 17" tire out there?
i wan to change mine becos the treads is getting flatter and flatter..
feels out of control sometimes when cruising high speed.. no grip at all
don tell me neova becos out of my budget..
just cheapo and reliable will do
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not exact sizing like 215/45 or 205/40 or 205/40 or 225/45? ? hmm.gif




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my priority is

1) Quiet
2) Good road grip
3) Reasonable price
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upgrade will b most ideal is 205/50-16 or slightly heavier ride will b 205/55-16
u can try hankkok,michelin or falken~ smile.gif
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How is Hankook S1 Evo compared with V12 in terms of performance and comfort??? I think S1 Evo is better and higher performance than V12 right??

I'm using 205/40/17.......


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QUOTE(cheeann @ Aug 28 2009, 11:11 AM)
not exact sizing like 215/45 or 205/40 or 205/40 or 225/45? ?    hmm.gif
upgrade will b most ideal is 205/50-16 or slightly heavier ride will b 205/55-16
u can try hankkok,michelin or falken~  smile.gif
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okay, this might sound stupid.. anyway
215/45 or 205/40 or 205/40 or 225/45
the width of the tires (bold numbers) isnt universal application?
about the height of the sidewall (italic numbers) i prefer higher numbers to protect the lips of my rim..
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QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 28 2009, 01:05 PM)
okay, this might sound stupid.. anyway
215/45 or 205/40 or 205/40 or 225/45
the width of the tires (bold numbers) isnt universal application?
about the height of the sidewall (italic numbers) i prefer higher numbers to protect the lips of my rim..
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Universal application? No la...It depends on the width of your rims.

What is your rims spec currently? and what is the current tyre spec that you are using?
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okay, this might sound stupid.. anyway
215/45 or 205/40 or 205/40 or 225/45
the width of the tires (bold numbers) isnt universal application?
about the height of the sidewall (italic numbers) i prefer higher numbers to protect the lips of my rim..
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wat car r u driving then? ? hmm.gif
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Universal application? No la...It depends on the width of your rims.

What is your rims spec currently? and what is the current tyre spec that you are using?
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205/40ZR17

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wat car r u driving then? ?    hmm.gif
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"what car i'm driving" plays a big role here?
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QUOTE(sukun @ Aug 28 2009, 10:12 PM)
205/40ZR17
"what car i'm driving" plays a big role here?
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of cuz~
if u're driving a merc or bmw then smallest size will b 225/45-17 up to 225/45-17
while our malasian's car below 1.8 recommended 205/40-17 or 205/45-17
while 2.0 n above will b 215/45-17
so wat do u think? ?
i'am a noob? ? doh.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Aug 28 2009, 10:09 PM)
of cuz~
if u're driving a merc or bmw then smallest size will b 225/45-17 up to 225/45-17
while our malasian's car below 1.8 recommended 205/40-17 or 205/45-17
while  2.0  n above will b 215/45-17
so wat do u think? ?
i'am a noob? ?    doh.gif
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whats the big reaction there? chill dude..
is was jst a question.. whats the big deal..
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size please... what type of tire you want? comfort, handling??? do you mind it is a bit noisy???
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size is 165/55R14... budget concern, about RM500... dun care watever comfort, ahndling or noisy...
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size is 165/55R14... budget concern, about RM500... dun care watever comfort, ahndling or noisy...
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Goodyear F1 Asymmetric - RM390 @ Quicksave
Comfort and quiet too... smile.gif
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how bout the handling??when wet izit good?
im using yoko a drive 205/40..a bit noisy..=.= i bought RM300 each+ trade in old tyre!!let ppl chop liao ..lol
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QUOTE(rabbit3773 @ Aug 30 2009, 05:50 PM)
how bout the handling??when wet izit good?
im using yoko a drive 205/40..a bit noisy..=.= i bought RM300 each+ trade in old tyre!!let ppl chop liao ..lol
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well according to some frens whom using 17" and 18" rim it is quite good... smile.gif
of course the dry performance cannot compare with those extreme tires... but its wet handling is quite good in surprise...
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one question.. i bought all tyre for my car  at the same time.. but the front left thread wear n tear more than others.. whats seems to be the problem... should i just changed both front tyre or changed all 4 tyre..  my tyre size is 195/55/R15.. wht type of tyre that can give more comfort.. can suggest to me.. budget is not more than Rm200
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pls do rotation of tire occasionally... once in every 3~6 months... or every 10k km...
that will ensure you have a even wear...
if it is too late to do so... you can try out this 3 tires for your change...

195/55/R15
Falken Ziex 912 - RM 167/pc @ Hock Li, Klang (Aug 09) balancing + install
Falken ZIEX-912 - 4 x RM 190/pc @ Weng Tat SS14, Subang Jaya (Jul 09) incl. balancing + valves - Trade-in 4 pc GY NCT 5 for RM 20.

Hankook V12 Evo - RM 184 @ Ban Hooi, Jln Kapar, Klang (16th May 09)

Yokohama A drive- RM 180-Tmn Sentosa klang
Yokohama C drive- RM 190-Tmn Sentosa klang

you can change your front tires only as it only affect the fronts left tire...
next time please do a schedule for rotation either in your mind or ask the tire shop to give u a sticker at the windscreen...

BTW there is a thread for tire discussion...
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1059355/+180
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if i upgrade to 195/60/r15, what should i gain and what should i loose.. is there a big differences..
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well bro... 60 series is more towards passenger tires where comfort is very important... handling will lose a lil there... traction also of course lower series will be better if you purchase the correct tires...

i think you better stick to the 55 series that you are using now...
go for falken 912... which is towards comfort... or Hankook V12 which has soft side wall also...
the Michelin PP2 and Yokohama S Drive have a harder side wall which make them good in handling...
in terms of performance from 1 to 3...
1 - Goodyear NCT5, Dunlop D-01, Bridgestone MY-1...
2 - Falken 912, Hankook V12, Yokohama C Drive, Michelin Primacy LC...
3 - Yokohama S Drive, Michelin PP2, Toyo T1R

this is my summary after some feedbacks from some of the forumers...
but if you wanna see better u look for tire which have Traction AA grade... or Grade A minimal...
Traction B grade is lousy... although some of the Tire have good Traction grade it traction sucks after 40% of wearing...
like NCT5 which i used 2 set as no choice... some with the Rim/Cars...
I have use 3 set of Michelin PP series which gives me good handling and traction in wet also...
you have to choose... Comfort... Handling... and did noise is very important to you????
then u have a summary there

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Need help here,
I going to buy a new set tyres for my car, So due to my budget I only can buy Dunlop or Silverstone. Between both of it, which want is the best?
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Sep 2 2009, 01:39 PM)
Need help here,
I going to buy a new set tyres for my car, So due to my budget I only can buy Dunlop or Silverstone. Between both of it, which want is the best?
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i'll say silverstone if u dun mind da noise after 20k km~ icon_idea.gif
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i'll say silverstone if u dun mind da noise after 20k km~  icon_idea.gif
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noise? current tyres I using is silverstone, I din heard any noise smile.gif By the way about the price, Dunlop is more Rm100++ then silverstone(4piece).
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Sep 2 2009, 02:01 PM)
noise? current tyres I  using is silverstone, I din heard any noise smile.gif  By the way about the price, Dunlop is more Rm100++ then silverstone(4piece).
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wat model is tat dunlop? ?
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Sep 2 2009, 01:07 PM)
wat model is tat dunlop? ?
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205/45/16
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thats is size...
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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Sep 2 2009, 01:17 PM)
205/45/16
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205/45/R16
Hankook V12 Evo - RM 255 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)
Falken Ziex ZE-912 - RM245 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)
Federal RS-R - RM350 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (Aug 09)

fren this size mostly is RM200++... you can use silverstone and dunlop...
of course we do not recomment you to use this 2... but if you budget limitation so no choice...
i don think you can get RM100++ tires for that size except you get 2nd hand tires....

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QUOTE(D.K.Prince @ Sep 2 2009, 02:17 PM)
205/45/16
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model i mean~
like silverstone kruzzer or ftz or dunlop digi-tyre or etc etc~
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bro recommend me tyre for viva.full set 4 tyre.wat tyre got both handling and comfort..size is 165/55R14... budget concern,,thanks
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potenza re030...
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potenza re030...
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u recommend me this tyre bro?how much per set?
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u recommend me this tyre bro?how much per set?
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yes...i use it on myvi...185/55/15...quite nice for me...good on wet too...
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bro recommend me tyre for viva.full set 4 tyre.wat tyre got both handling and comfort..size is 165/55R14... budget concern,,thanks
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if budget is ur concern then y not hankook or falken ? ? smile.gif
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budget <rm150 for each one since my viva just for driving go n back from office everyday within 3km.huhu.falken wat type?cn gv me specific one?
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budget <rm150 for each one since my viva just for driving go n back from office everyday within 3km.huhu.falken wat type?cn gv me specific one?
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not sure if they got ze912 or not~
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i got quote yokohama a drive aao1 for rm180 per piece.. ok a..
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i got quote yokohama a drive aao1 for rm180 per piece.. ok a..
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wat size? ?
can it b 14 or 15 or even 16? ?
next time pls state wat size r u being quote by ppl so can give u a 2nd opinion~

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guys need your opinion, im using nct5 195/55/15 on gen2 currently.

Front 70-80% rear 60%

During rain, the rear side like gliding and sway, very licin..

what should i do..

1) buy new pair for front, front move to rear
2) use until front left 60-70%, change whole new set

Plan to get this Hankook V12 Evo, this 1 good in wet?
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buy for rear...


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new pair for front better or rear better, i always put infront.
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didnt u see the video i post?..or u blind?..
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didnt u see the video i post?..or u blind?..
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sorry, didnt notice there is a video.. office blocked youtube.
ill go back and check..
thanks anyway
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wat size? ?
can it b 14 or 15 or even 16? ?
next time pls state wat size r u being quote by ppl so can give u a 2nd opinion~
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oh sorry2 its for 195/55/r15 Rm180 per piece at batu pahat.. ok a
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QUOTE(pokgaizai @ Sep 6 2009, 09:21 PM)
sorry, didnt notice there is a video.. office blocked youtube.
ill go back and check..
thanks anyway
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change rear first...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Sep 2 2009, 01:27 PM)
205/45/R16
Federal RS-R - RM350 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (Aug 09)
bro , where's this shop Jooi Seng Klang aer ?

do they have 205/50/16 for Federal RS-R ?

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change rear first...
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finaly i watched the video ! thanks

gota try v12evo this wednesday...
hope can find nice price around kl/pj..

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QUOTE(Reyz @ Sep 6 2009, 12:36 AM)
budget <rm150 for each one since my viva just for driving go n back from office everyday within 3km.huhu.falken wat type?cn gv me specific one?
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try to find what CheeAnn said... that 2 is very reasonably priced...

QUOTE(pokgaizai @ Sep 6 2009, 08:57 PM)
guys need your opinion,  im using nct5 195/55/15 on gen2 currently.

Front 70-80% rear 60%

During rain, the rear side like gliding and sway, very licin..

what should i do..

1) buy new pair for front, front move to rear
2) use until front left 60-70%, change whole new set

Plan to get this Hankook V12 Evo, this 1 good in wet?
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aiyo... buy 4 pcs lo... 1 time... then can get good grip....
change the back... if front turning brake also die... i have mine Ori stock of Vios changed after 50%...
cannot tahan... really it will break the traction very easily...
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just a reminder..jonkor(real account) is back..so get ready ur gunz...lol
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QUOTE(pokgaizai @ Sep 6 2009, 08:57 PM)
guys need your opinion,  im using nct5 195/55/15 on gen2 currently.

Front 70-80% rear 60%

During rain, the rear side like gliding and sway, very licin..

what should i do..

1) buy new pair for front, front move to rear
2) use until front left 60-70%, change whole new set

Plan to get this Hankook V12 Evo, this 1 good in wet?
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previously im using nct5 and it easy to skid (especially wet road) and noisy...
so i change to continental cct1 and its better than nct5 for grip and noise reduction..
now using falken ze912... grip even better but noise reduction slightly less than cct1

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as Hankook V12's user, i personally recommend this tyre. excellent grip in dry & wet. no drop in FC, as previously using kelly sport plus.
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guys,

Between Toyo T1R , Yokohama S drive or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3,

which one has better dry grip?

For spirited driving/hard driving.

Noise is not an issue.

Can some1 also indicate the price for Yokohama S drive and Goodyear for size 195/55/15.

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QUOTE(Wira_lover @ Sep 13 2009, 12:24 AM)
guys,

Between Toyo T1R , Yokohama S drive or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3,

which one has better dry grip?

For spirited driving/hard driving.

Noise is not an issue.

Can some1 also indicate the price for Yokohama S drive and Goodyear for size 195/55/15.
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tis two is quite good on dry but in term of wet i would sat toyo sux big time cuz i had an major accident wit it n it's not very wet sum more~
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QUOTE(Wira_lover @ Sep 12 2009, 11:24 PM)
guys,

Between Toyo T1R , Yokohama S drive or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3,

which one has better dry grip?

For spirited driving/hard driving.

Noise is not an issue.

Can some1 also indicate the price for Yokohama S drive and Goodyear for size 195/55/15.
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y not try the Bridgestone Adrenalin?? it is good in dry...
it wet grip is a bit issue for you... Toyo T1R thread wear index is very low... 240 if not mistaken...
so the thread will wear off faster... pls do note about this...
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haha still unknown... a lot of ppl still waiting for it... if you wan...
try SG... they have stock already if not mistaken...
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hopefully... a lot of ppl waiting for it... smile.gif
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I just change to goodyear duraplus

any comment on this!
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Any recommendation for 164/55/R14? Currently considering V8...which seems to be cheaper and better performance...and anyone knows any Hankook tyre shop in PJ?
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singapore also not yet released...AD-08.
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QUOTE(Wira_lover @ Sep 12 2009, 11:24 PM)
guys,

Between Toyo T1R , Yokohama S drive or Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3,

which one has better dry grip?

For spirited driving/hard driving.

Noise is not an issue.

Can some1 also indicate the price for Yokohama S drive and Goodyear for size 195/55/15.
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tested all. toyo is an excellent performer in dry and wet condition / cornering. i could say good traction in wet but less grip. F1 and S drive are all rounder. currently using S drive at the rear.
noisy tyre but quite satisfied with it. plan to swap it with friend's F1 soon and get a better feel of the tyre with nice directional thread thumbup.gif

QUOTE(Magician @ Sep 14 2009, 03:05 PM)
I just change to goodyear duraplus

any comment on this!
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tested. avoid this tyre for spirited driving. it took longer distance to stop under heavy braking compare to even a yokohama C drive.
wet grip 'ma ma tei only'. am not willing to sacrifice the pleasure of driving by going into 'extra mileage' with this tyre.
then again, this is merely my personal opinion icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Magician @ Sep 14 2009, 03:05 PM)
I just change to goodyear duraplus

any comment on this!
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haha... that is anot a good tire for spirited drive or high speed drive... careful man...

QUOTE(zeroshift @ Sep 14 2009, 03:23 PM)
Any recommendation for 164/55/R14? Currently considering V8...which seems to be cheaper and better performance...and anyone knows any Hankook tyre shop in PJ?
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nothing else is cheaper as i told you on the Tire Price List thread... try Hankook V12... it is better but similar priced...

QUOTE(Wira_lover @ Sep 14 2009, 07:09 PM)
singapore also not yet released...AD-08.
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ya ka... damn... i heard from ppl SG got stock... doh.gif
sorry... but i'm not waiting for it... cos hard side wall tires... suffer on ride quality...
what i want is Good dry and wet traction... then Comfort and Noise... i can't give away the wet traction and comfort...
Michelin PP2 is marginal already... but i heard from someone that S drive is similar with PP2...
but noisier coz directional thread... now duno which to buy b4 CNY... T1R, S Drive or stick back to PP2... now using V12...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Sep 15 2009, 10:22 AM)
haha... that is anot a good tire for spirited drive or high speed drive... careful man...
nothing else is cheaper as i told you on the Tire Price List thread... try Hankook V12... it is better but similar priced...
ya ka... damn... i heard from ppl SG got stock...  doh.gif
sorry... but i'm not waiting for it... cos hard side wall tires... suffer on ride quality...
what i want is Good dry and wet traction... then Comfort and Noise... i can't give away the wet traction and comfort...
Michelin PP2 is marginal already... but i heard from someone that S drive is similar with PP2...
but noisier coz directional thread... now duno which to buy b4 CNY... T1R, S Drive or stick back to PP2... now using V12...
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cheap n durablae+budget~
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i swear to myself never get that again... haha... it is a tires which kills...
50% wear already then all the wet traction performance drop vertically...

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my dad said there is a JPJ rule which all the four tyres must having the same grip, izzit true?

currently using dunlop duraplus @ rear, planning to get michellin m1 at front....
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no la... a lots of cars don have that la...
i even saw i car which they seldom seldom drive... show car... VW Beetle 1960's...
they have 4 different tires with same size all round... different brands also...
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my dad said there is a JPJ rule which all the four tyres must having the same grip, izzit true?

currently using dunlop duraplus @ rear, planning to get michellin m1 at front....
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Guys new tires test results from Tire Racks...

for Comfort passanger...2009 Toyota Prius fitted with 185/65 R15
* Fuel Economy: Michelin Energy Saver A/S
* Ride Comfort: Goodyear Assurance ComforTred
* Noise Comfort: Goodyear Assurance ComforTred
* Road Handling: Yokohama dB Super E-Spec
* Wet Braking: Bridgestone Ecopia EP100
* Dry Braking: Goodyear Integrity (OE)
* Wet Cornering: Michelin HydroEdge with Green X
* Dry Cornering: Goodyear Integrity

Link to More details of test...


for Extreme Tires... test with 2008 BMW E92 328i Coupe fitted with 225/45 R17

Tires Tested:
Continental ExtremeContact DW (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 91W)

* What We Liked: Good road manners and exceptional dry and wet braking traction
* What We'd Improve: Steering response and a little more precise dry handling
* Conclusion: Continental moves closer to the front finishing as close to 1st place as 3rd can be
* Latest Test Rank: 3rd
* Previous Test Rank: Not previously tested

Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 94Y)

* What We Liked: Excellent wet traction and reasonable ride quality
* What We'd Improve: A small reduction in road noise
* Conclusion: One of the best tires in the wet
* Latest Test Rank: 2nd
* Previous Test Rank: 1st (Oct '07)

Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 91Y)

* What We Liked: responsive steering and fun-to-drive factor
* What We'd Improve: A modest improvement in wet traction
* Conclusion: Still a well-rounded Max Performance Summer tire
* Latest Test Rank: 1st
* Previous Test Rank: 2nd (October '07), 2nd (August '07), 1st (June '04)

Pirelli P Zero (Max Performance Summer 225/45R17 94Y)

* What We Liked: Excellent traction in both dry and wet conditions
* What We'd Improve: A moderate reduction in tread pattern noise
* Conclusion: Excellent dry and wet performance, but sacrifices some road comfort
* Latest Test Rank: 4th
* Previous Test Rank: 1st (August '07)


Link to More details of test...
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BFGoodrich G-force sport, any comments?

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BFGoodrich G sport, any comments?
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Because currently I am using that
Ditched my paradas after my 2nd tyre punctured within 7 months
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hi guys...

i'm looking for something around 16"...

i tried toyo t1r... i love the grip, quiet and pretty good with wet surface.. i would love to try other tires which is as good as this but wif lower budget.. sometwhere around 250-300 would match my wallet the best... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

btw, my tire size is 205/45/16... recommendation is reli reli much appreciated.. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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205/45/R16
Hankook V12 Evo - RM 255 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)
Falken Ziex ZE-912 - RM245 @ Jooi Seng, Klang (May 09)

you only have this 2 choice which is cheap and nice...
if you wan directional thread go for V12... but sure it will be noisier than 912... its grip is better...

for comfort n quiet drive Falken 912... but you can ask for Michelin Primacy LC also... around RM300 if not mistaken...

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is falken nice? somehow i heard many bad reviews on it rather than good ones..hmm
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well fren... there is nothing as cheap and very good...
Falken is good if you wanna hv comfort and not bad traction...
of course the best tire around is Michelin PP2, Yokohama S Drives, Yokohama AD08, BS Adrenalin RE-001 or even Toyo's also not bad...
Hankook V12 is directional tires from Korea it will give you comfort + performance of course not on the par of those i mention above...
if you really wan pure handling and gripping... pls skip falken 912 or Hankook V12...


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bro maxximus, from the price list thread...

GY F1 Assy should be affordable... it is quite comfy with performance...
try to ask the price 1st...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 1 2009, 09:58 AM)
bro maxximus,  from the price list thread...

GY F1 Assy should be affordable... it is quite comfy with performance...
try to ask the price 1st...
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For GY F1 Assy, only 225/40/18 available, 2ndly is way out of my budget, was quoted RM778 (German made). Me not affordable for that price. biggrin.gif
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sorry then... then Falken is your choice...

u can try Hankook also... not bad... but 225/40 R18 or 235/40 R18 only...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 1 2009, 10:22 AM)
sorry then... then Falken is your choice...

u can try Hankook also... not bad... but 225/40 R18 or 235/40 R18 only...
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Its ok. Already change to Falken ZE912, within budget and same size as the stock tyre. Furthermore, wifey is not an aggressive driver. So I think it is good enough. biggrin.gif



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ok...


Added on October 1, 2009, 11:41 amok...

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do anyone heard of wanli tires. It is good? The website is below:
http://www.wanlitires.com/
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tat is all heavy vehicle tires or 4X4 tires la...
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ops, but i saw they selling wanli tyres here is 195/55/15. so weirdo.
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duno i went to their website... all heavy truck tires... better don buy... sorry to say that...
if you want cheap tires.... and reliable... try Falken 912 and Hankook V12 for that size... smile.gif only around RM180
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QUOTE(nightzstar @ Oct 2 2009, 01:51 AM)
ops, but i saw they selling wanli tyres here is 195/55/15. so weirdo.
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yupp. they are available in those size too. but wanli 'could be' in the same league with nangkang. was fixed on my rented car while on vacation in taiwan sometimes ago.
wet braking and grip sux'.
from my experience, falken ze912 or even the cheaper dunlop d01 perform better overall.
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i see, that tires noisy also. Want to ask thinner sidewall tires more noisy compared to stock or thick sidewall tires?

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thinner side walls??? low profile tires u mean la... yes... because of it's thread design and also it's compound...
lets say the size is 225/45 R17... u got Yokohama S Drive and Yokohama C Drive...
surely the Yokohama C drive will be more quiet as it's design for comfort and quiet...
as for Yokohama S Drive is designed for performance and its directional thread generate more noise...
so different design and also different cat. (UHP vs Extreme) will have different results...
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Can any1 please comment on the below tire for size 205/55/16? i am more into comfort ride and have a more lasting rubber

Bridgetone My01
Bridgetone Turanza AR10
Yokohama A drive
Yokohama C drive

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:16 PM)
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yokohama loyalist here. from my experience, C.drive is quieter on even surface but it was noisier than S.drive on uneven surface sweat.gif btw, both excelled in all road condition with the C.drive being more comfortable
on normal driving.

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if you are not into spirited driving, you can always go for A.drive. more comfortable than C.drive but offer less
grip in high speed cornering. never try MY01, but Bridestone RE001(??)'s thread isn't as lasting as those of C.drive.
comfort wise, A.drive and My01 is your choice.

guys, a tyre shop foreman told me a Goodyear F1 of 205/60/r15 cost around 200 bucks each. anyone can confirm
the price? hmm.gif
even my Yokohama 205/55/r15 cost me a bomb the last time around.
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hi there..currently using 205/45/16 for my saga blm, want to change tyres soon..just want to know ur opinions between hankook v12 evo and yokohama A drive R1...thx u guyss...
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yoko a drive r1...good on wet...
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QUOTE(pky @ Oct 3 2009, 11:57 AM)
Can any1 please comment on the below tire for size 205/55/16? i am more into comfort ride and have a more lasting rubber

Bridgetone My01
Bridgetone Turanza AR10
Yokohama A drive
Yokohama C drive
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for that size you can try out Michelin Primacy LC also... smile.gif a bit more expensive...


QUOTE(a2hara2i2an @ Oct 4 2009, 10:08 AM)
hi there..currently using 205/45/16 for my saga blm, want to change tyres soon..just want to know ur opinions between hankook v12 evo and yokohama A drive R1...thx u guyss...
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Hankook V12 is more agreesive looking... and it is not bad in terms of handling and comfort...
A drive R1 not sure though...
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hankook v12 offer better comfort.
handling and overall grip / traction goes to A.drive R1 though.

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 2 2009, 04:16 PM)
thinner side walls??? low profile tires u mean la... yes... because of it's thread design and also it's compound...
lets say the size is 225/45 R17... u got Yokohama S Drive and Yokohama C Drive...
surely the Yokohama C drive will be more quiet as it's design for comfort and quiet...
as for Yokohama S Drive is designed for performance and its directional thread generate more noise...
so different design and also different cat. (UHP vs Extreme) will have different results...
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icic. That is something i learnt today. I feel the tires give better grip or handling compared to my stock tires but more noisy compared to my stock tires. Hmm, is there any 15" tires recommended for me? I want a silent tires. Thanks notworthy.gif
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silent tires... what is ur size BTW...
u have Falken 912, Yokohama A drive for cheaper solution...
for higher range you have Yokohama A Drive, Toyo DRB, Michelin Primacy LC...
all the tires that i mention is meant for quiet drive and occasionally spirited drive not aggressive driving everyday...

QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 4 2009, 09:22 PM)
hankook v12 offer better comfort.
handling and overall grip / traction goes to A.drive R1 though.
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sure bo... i thought Hankook beat some of the so call better tires than A Drive R1...

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please give me some good suggestion on this tyre 195/55R15...
n of coz, it must be budget+good grip+handling+average comfort tongue.gif!

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federal...cheap and good...
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federal tires... cheap and good woh... Taiwan brand and also made... 595 is the model...
you can try Hankook V12... comfort + directional thread... smile.gif RM180/pc at Klang only...
but it is limited in stock coz a lot ppl bought it already...
even disty also low on stock...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 5 2009, 09:05 AM)
silent tires... what is ur size BTW...
u have Falken 912, Yokohama A drive for cheaper solution...
for higher range you have Yokohama A Drive, Toyo DRB, Michelin Primacy LC...
all the tires that i mention is meant for quiet drive and occasionally spirited drive not aggressive driving everyday...


sure bo... i thought Hankook beat some of the so call better tires than A  Drive R1...
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performance differ in real life. that was based on my own conclusion after driving my friend's car fitted with a hankook ventus....
pesonal opinion may differ though icon_rolleyes.gif

btw, new goodyear f1 tyre of 205/60/r15(is this size even available?) at 200 a piece. is this cheap??
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Some feedback on Lim Tayar TTDI and Weng Tat SS14 Subang Jaya. Went to Lim Tayar to do alignment and balancing, was told by the boss one of the rims bent, need to replace. I ignored it, plan to repair later.

Few months later, went to Weng Tat, told the guy there about my bent rim and asked for repair cost. He said test first. After testing, alignment, balancing, he said that the rim was not bent, just tyre not properly fitted (guess Lim Tayar just wanted to promote their own rims). Happy with Weng Tat.

Few months later, need to do alignment and balancing again, went to Weng Tat again. The previous guy had left. Now another guy did for me. After did everything (plus the usual camber sales pitch), we went for a test spin together.

Him: Wow your tyres very noisy! You should use quieter tyres. I'm using PP2 on my Kenari, you can tell I'm so selective!
Me: I'm using Falken Ziex 912 wor.
Him: *quiet*
Me: 10k+ km only.
Him: Oh Falken 912 lifespan is 30k+ km only. Gets very noisy about mid-lifespan. You should try Bridgestone AR-10 next time.

Few weeks later, went Penang with frens. One of my fren sat in my car. Fetched him for <1 minute, he said, "Something wrong with your wheels. Bearing must be faulty. Seems like coming from the left." Went to SC after that for checkup, indeed left front bearings faulty, replaced under warranty. Car nicely quiet again.

No more Lim Tayar (fake diagnosis to promote own products) and Weng Tat (lousy diagnosis for tyre man) for me ever again.

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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 6 2009, 06:53 PM)
performance differ in real life. that was based on my own conclusion after driving my friend's car fitted with a hankook ventus....
pesonal opinion may differ though  icon_rolleyes.gif

btw, new goodyear f1 tyre of 205/60/r15(is this size even available?) at 200 a piece. is this cheap??
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GY F1 wat??? the model???

Price list from AW Forum...
205/60/R15
Pirelli P6 - RM 260 (penang) including allignment + balancing +install only.
Yokohama AA01 - RM180 @ ULS, Skudai Johor (Feb 09)
Falken Ziex 912 - RM190 @ Ban Hooi Klang (Mac 09)
Michelin Primacy LC - RM255 (Hin Leong, Klang) - March 2009
Michellin Primacy LC -RM335 including allignment + vavle +install only.
Michellin PP2-RM355 including allignment + vavle +install only.

GY tires some times really don like it... except F1 Assy... which a lot of good feedback...



QUOTE(Dannyl @ Oct 7 2009, 08:46 AM)
No more Lim Tayar (fake diagnosis to promote own products) and Weng Tat (lousy diagnosis for tyre man) for me ever again.
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well sometimes they make assumption as they like... but always stick to your believe...
912 if you take good car... i think you can last 40k km... but you have to check the tire pressure always
PP2 is different class with Yokohama A drive and also Falken 912...
PP2 really gives you good feedback and also handling...
for Kenari u have rear tires uneven wear issues... my fren is facing that issue also...
try out A Drive or A Drive R1 (Directional) by Yokies... so that u can flip to other side easily...
that is wat my fren is doing...

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QUOTE(Dannyl @ Oct 7 2009, 08:46 AM)
Some feedback on Lim Tayar TTDI and Weng Tat SS14 Subang Jaya.  Went to Lim Tayar to do alignment and balancing, was told by the boss one of the rims bent, need to replace.  I ignored it, plan to repair later.

Few months later, went to Weng Tat, told the guy there about my bent rim and asked for repair cost.  He said test first.  After testing, alignment, balancing, he said that the rim was not bent, just tyre not properly fitted (guess Lim Tayar just wanted to promote their own rims).  Happy with Weng Tat.

Few months later, need to do alignment and balancing again, went to Weng Tat again.  The previous guy had left.  Now another guy did for me.  After did everything (plus the usual camber sales pitch), we went for a test spin together.

Him:  Wow your tyres very noisy!  You should use quieter tyres.  I'm using PP2 on my Kenari, you can tell I'm so selective!
Me:  I'm using Falken Ziex 912 wor.
Him:  *quiet*
Me:  10k+ km only.
Him:  Oh Falken 912 lifespan is 30k+ km only.  Gets very noisy about mid-lifespan.  You should try Bridgestone AR-10 next time.

Few weeks later, went Penang with frens.  One of my fren sat in my car.  Fetched him for <1 minute, he said, "Something wrong with your wheels.  Bearing must be faulty.  Seems like coming from the left."  Went to SC after that for checkup, indeed left front bearings faulty, replaced under warranty.  Car nicely quiet again.

No more Lim Tayar (fake diagnosis to promote own products) and Weng Tat (lousy diagnosis for tyre man) for me ever again.
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No idea about Weng Tat, but Lim Tayars are famous for their never ending con sales on asking you to do camber nuts and camber setting. Never go to them. I know my own needs on the alignment setting i like. smile.gif
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1. GY Excellence
2. GY Revspec RS-02
3. GY Eagle F1 GSD-3
4. GY LS2000 Hybrid2

thanks smile.gif need new rubber soon....

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My new Fiat Bravo GT came with Continental CSC3, size 225/40/R18.

Bloody hell they're really noisy.
Anyone here tested CSC3s and their alternatives - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric/Pirelli P Zero Rosso/Michelin PP2? Care to comment? Especially on the tyre roar.

Thanks.
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Curious to know,
what is the correct air pressure we should pump on the 16" 205/50 tires? hmm.gif

currently i on 31psi for front, 30psi for rear.
should i go higher?
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QUOTE(igor87 @ Oct 18 2009, 07:33 PM)
My new Fiat Bravo GT came with Continental CSC3, size 225/40/R18.

Bloody hell they're really noisy.
Anyone here tested CSC3s and their alternatives - Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetric/Pirelli P Zero Rosso/Michelin PP2? Care to comment? Especially on the tyre roar.

Thanks.
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Feedback from some forummers that F1 Assy is the best choice as it is still reasonably priced...
its noise and grip level also at satisfaction level... smile.gif


QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Oct 18 2009, 09:12 PM)
Curious to know,
what is the correct air pressure we should pump on the 16" 205/50 tires?  hmm.gif

currently i on 31psi for front, 30psi for rear.
should i go higher?
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it depends what is ur tire and also your ride... then it comes to what is ur priority... handling or comfort... smile.gif
my 195/55 R15 V12 on Vios already 34 PSI (front) & 32 PSI (rear) at when i pump at petrol station... urs depends...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 19 2009, 09:36 AM)
Feedback from some forummers that F1 Assy is the best choice as it is still reasonably priced...
its noise and grip level also at satisfaction level... smile.gif
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Thanks mate. Yeah I've been getting really good feedback regarding the F1 Asymmetric. I'll probably use the original CSC3s for a few months or so, then think about replacing them as I've just lowered the pressure down to 32psi for all 4 tyres, and the noise is slightly more tolerable now.
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dear broz,

still haven't finalize what to get yet..

Eagle F1 GSD (thai)- RM289
V8 - RM215 V12-RM249 Evo-350 RS2-RM299
Yoko ADrive- RM238


Added on October 19, 2009, 6:58 pmi'm looking for quiet, hard side walls and does good wif wet surface smile.gif

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QUOTE(ahpaul82 @ Oct 18 2009, 10:12 PM)
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what is the correct air pressure we should pump on the 16" 205/50 tires?  hmm.gif

currently i on 31psi for front, 30psi for rear.
should i go higher?
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for ur gen-2 on 16"
if u wan good fc then put front 33-34psi n rear 32psi
if u wan more comfort+performance then front 31-32psi n rear 29-30psi




QUOTE(mattchin @ Oct 19 2009, 07:56 PM)
dear broz,

still haven't finalize what to get yet..

Eagle F1 GSD (thai)- RM289
V8 - RM215 V12-RM249 Evo-350 RS2-RM299
Yoko ADrive- RM238


Added on October 19, 2009, 6:58 pmi'm looking for quiet, hard side walls and does good wif wet surface smile.gif
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QUOTE(mattchin @ Oct 19 2009, 06:56 PM)
dear broz,

still haven't finalize what to get yet..

Eagle F1 GSD (thai)- RM289
V8 - RM215 V12-RM249 Evo-350 RS2-RM299
Yoko ADrive- RM238


Added on October 19, 2009, 6:58 pmi'm looking for quiet, hard side walls and does good wif wet surface smile.gif
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what is your size??? as bro CheeAnn said... u never get wrong with the over priced Michelin PP2...
it is quiet... but if you can bear a bit of noise... try Hankook V12... it comes witha lil comfort also...

QUOTE(cheeann @ Oct 19 2009, 07:35 PM)
for ur gen-2 on 16"
if u wan good fc then put front 33-34psi n rear 32psi
if u wan more comfort+performance then front 31-32psi n rear 29-30psi
u'll neva get wrong wit overall ratingg will b michelin pp2
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Softer pressure to get more performance???
if you have PP2 and ur fren have Primacy LC means same pressure to get same performance... ???
it is all depends on individual la isn't it???
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After done with some reading on the interwebs and feedback here, i have decided and bought myself a set of Michelin PP2. Previously i was on OEM tyres which is the Goodyear NCT5 and finally rest at peace clocking 67000km with less 10% thread.


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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 21 2009, 11:41 PM)
After done with some reading on the interwebs and feedback here, i have decided and bought myself a set of Michelin PP2. Previously i was on OEM tyres which is the Goodyear NCT5 and finally rest at peace clocking 67000km with less 10% thread.
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 21 2009, 11:41 PM)
After done with some reading on the interwebs and feedback here, i have decided and bought myself a set of Michelin PP2. Previously i was on OEM tyres which is the Goodyear NCT5 and finally rest at peace clocking 67000km with less 10% thread.
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good choice...but now...u will go around 30k km oni...then the tire botak...laugh.gif
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 21 2009, 11:41 PM)
After done with some reading on the interwebs and feedback here, i have decided and bought myself a set of Michelin PP2. Previously i was on OEM tyres which is the Goodyear NCT5 and finally rest at peace clocking 67000km with less 10% thread.
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QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 22 2009, 01:06 AM)
good choice...but now...u will go around 30k km oni...then the tire botak...laugh.gif
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Botak that fast meh PP2 o.o"?
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er.. not like that la... if you drive like normal then 40k ~50k... if you drive aggressively about 30k la...
but NCT5 u dare to use until left only 10%... i throw it away when 40% or more left...
u get better confidence in wet and also better handling... traction much more better than NCT5...
but in return of safety it will burn ur wallet a bit more... what size have u changed to and how much???
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Oct 19 2009, 07:35 PM)
for ur gen-2 on 16"
if u wan good fc then put front 33-34psi n rear 32psi
if u wan more comfort+performance then front 31-32psi n rear 29-30psi
u'll neva get wrong wit overall ratingg will b michelin pp2
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thanks for your recommendation,
now i'm on 33psi front, 32psi rear.
hopefully it can give me better FC...

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 20 2009, 10:18 AM)
Softer pressure to get more performance???
if you have PP2 and ur fren have Primacy LC means same pressure to get same performance... ???
it is all depends on individual la isn't it???
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previous air pressure give me so-so FC,
so i try increase tire air pressure,
hopefully can give better FC lor... blush.gif
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QUOTE(SK_C @ Oct 22 2009, 08:13 AM)
Anyone use Nexen tire (korean) before?? Highly recommended by a tire shop in SS3..195/55/R15 cost RM175, same as Falken..
The thread look very sporty, V shape all the way..
still dunno how to choose...my NCT5, 2 times raining also ABS...and kena hit too...just 60km/hr
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SK-C I brought over ur post in Tire Price thread...
going to Nexen, i recommend u to try Hankook V12 evo which is similar price range with Nexen...
NCT5 useless tire... i throw mine away when it left more than 40% of thread... read thru some old post here...
i have some review about it... smile.gif cheers...
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according to experts the higher Pressure the less roll resistance will be... so u will get better FC... smile.gif
got get good performance u must have the right pressure not too hard or soft...
under inflated tire ur tire outer parts will wear off faster while over inflated tire ur tire will loss comfort...
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that's why i'm curious to know what is the correct/suitable air pressure for my Gen2 CPS on 205/50R16 RE001 tires ... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(maxximus @ Oct 9 2009, 06:09 PM)
sifus, advice and commends needed for tyres listed below:

1. GY Excellence
2. GY Revspec RS-02
3. GY Eagle F1 GSD-3
4. GY LS2000 Hybrid2

thanks  smile.gif need new rubber soon....
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I'm using LS2000 Hybrid II on my Airtrek Turbo, very nice so far. Good balance between performance and comfort, very quiet and good ride with low noise.

It's one step below the UHP range so you can't really compare with 2 and 3.

If you want UHP I suggest you look at Falken FK452 as well, I wanted to get those but they don't manufacture the size I need (215/55/R17).
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QUOTE(ShaolinTiger @ Oct 22 2009, 12:49 PM)
I'm using LS2000 Hybrid II on my Airtrek Turbo, very nice so far. Good balance between performance and comfort, very quiet and good ride with low noise.

It's one step below the UHP range so you can't really compare with 2 and 3.

If you want UHP I suggest you look at Falken FK452 as well, I wanted to get those but they don't manufacture the size I need (215/55/R17).
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haha, cools powerful SUV u have there.

Thanks for sharing, bro smile.gif

Mind to share with me how much u pay for the LS2000 with the size 215/55/17 ?

I was quoted RM503/= for both the LS2000 and Revspec RS-02


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QUOTE(maxximus @ Oct 22 2009, 01:01 PM)
haha, cools powerful SUV u have there. 

Thanks for sharing, bro  smile.gif

Mind to share with me how much u pay for the LS2000 with the size 215/55/17 ? 

I was quoted RM503/= for both the LS2000 and Revspec RS-02
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I paid RM480 per piece at that size including install/balancing/alignment at Hup Shun in Sunway, Revspec is around the same price but harder, not such a comfort ride.

Depends what you want really. I would get FK452 over Revspec tho.

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QUOTE(ShaolinTiger @ Oct 22 2009, 01:14 PM)
I paid RM480 per piece at that size including install/balancing/alignment at Hup Shun in Sunway, Revspec is around the same price but harder, not such a comfort ride.

Depends what you want really. I would get FK452 over Revspec tho.
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wow that is good, at least better then what I was quoted. Will check out FK452 ... thanks
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QUOTE(maxximus @ Oct 22 2009, 01:20 PM)
wow that is good, at least better then what I was quoted.  Will check out FK452 ... thanks
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http://www.shaolintiger.com/2009/10/22/pro...-airtrek-turbo/

For that range you can also consider Hankook S1 Evo, Bridgestone Adrenalin RE0001 and Toyo T1-R.
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Adrenalin is just too expensive so do T1R...
i think Hankook S1 is a safe bet... cheaper... it's review by german car magazines also pretty good...

btw u have nicely written up there... smile.gif
if not mistaken Falken 452 is not that recommended as the grip is not up to some ppl levels...

I'm using Hankook V12 at this moment and it impress me... wet grip is comparable with PP2 (my previous set) and its braking distance also... or should i say most of the performance is good for occasionally aggressive driving... but u might need 1~2 days to get use to it's handling characteristic coz it is just 0.5 sec slower in response compare to PP2, i'm driving around 110km/h at tat time... it is because PP2 has a harder side wall but V12 have a softer which makes V12 has a lil more comfort... this is suitable for them whom wants grips and performance while it does not loose a lot in comfort... smile.gif I'm driving Vios only... but PP2 really not suitable with Honda's car if you wan a lil comfort...

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:40 PM)
Adrenalin is just too expensive so do T1R...
i think Hankook S1 is a safe bet... cheaper... it's review by german car magazines also pretty good...

btw u have nicely written up there... smile.gif
if not mistaken Falken 452 is not that recommended as the grip is not up to some ppl levels...


Yah some other Airtrek driver is using S1 Evo, seems like a good tyre.

Never heard any complain on FK452 on grip, only that it wears down faster cos soft compound.

PP2 is good, but a bit expensive as well.
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yea... actually too soft or not depends on individual... we duno... coz my fren say PP2 too hard... but for me still ok... on the boder line...
V12 is comfort... but handling a lil loose out... thats all... i think S1 also a lil softer than PP2... but not sure though since it have 17" and up... not for me then...
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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 22 2009, 12:26 AM)
after you use PP2 i doubt you will go back for NCT5

the difference is just too much.
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QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 22 2009, 01:06 AM)
good choice...but now...u will go around 30k km oni...then the tire botak...laugh.gif
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What the ?

Dunno yet bro, let me test first ermkay ? tongue.gif

I'm not track 'kaki' like my friend tongue.gif . This year only, he already changed 3 sets of tyres. All this due to Sepang HPCs and Genting whacked out session.

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 22 2009, 09:24 AM)
er.. not like that la... if you drive like normal then 40k ~50k... if you drive aggressively about 30k la...
but NCT5 u dare to use until left only 10%... i throw it away when 40% or more left...
u get better confidence in wet and also better handling... traction much more better than NCT5...
but in return of safety it will burn ur wallet a bit more... what size have u changed to and how much???
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I drive slow like an uncle tongue.gif

It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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I was using NCT5 on my previous car Satria GTi, worst tyre I've used so far. Damn noisy man.
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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falken 195/60/15 can get RM175... continental around that figure
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 22 2009, 05:45 PM)
rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(the_catacombs @ Oct 22 2009, 05:45 PM)
rm225/pc for 195/55/r15 NCT5??.... not expensive meh??... unsure.gif
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Looking back to the question raised by michael and my other previous post, I was referring to the pp2 and not nct5.

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 22 2009, 07:48 PM)
huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 20 2009, 11:18 AM)
what is your size??? as bro CheeAnn said... u never get wrong with the over priced Michelin PP2...
it is quiet... but if you can bear a bit of noise... try Hankook V12... it comes witha lil comfort also...
Softer pressure to get more performance???
if you have PP2 and ur fren have Primacy LC means same pressure to get same performance... ???
it is all depends on individual la isn't it???
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 08:01 PM)
Looking back to the question raised by michael and my other previous post, I was referring to the pp2 and not nct5.
Good price you got there, can I know which production stock ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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ok la... not too expensive... with PP2 straight line braking in wet is ok... not to worry about that... smile.gif
but during the rain always careful during cornering,very dangerous for emergency braking... for what ever tire u use...

QUOTE(ShaolinTiger @ Oct 22 2009, 03:49 PM)
I was using NCT5 on my previous car Satria GTi, worst tyre I've used so far. Damn noisy man.
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not only noisy man... no grip (for me la) during wet after 50% of usage... sweat.gif it activated my ABS most of the time when i brake a lil hard during declining a hill... gripping also not that superior... most of the AW forummer call it the tire to kill... haha

QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 22 2009, 07:48 PM)
huh??...pp2 i got it around RM210...at klang.. brows.gif
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yea you can get it at that price in Klang... smile.gif in PJ around RM240... i got my Hankook V12 for only Rm180 a lil more comfort compare to PP2 but handling about 0.5 secs slower... but other performance is comparable with PP2... not bad... this tire good for ppl which have hard suspension setup... coz it is a UHP tire wif a lil comfort... smile.gif

QUOTE(benmah @ Oct 22 2009, 09:36 PM)
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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the moment the vios arrive at my house, i junked the NCT5 and throw in T1R...
laugh.gif

actually u can try trail braking into corner its nice if done correctly... ... but only for the new dugong vios... because the new dugong vios can downshift and hold 3rd gear which is just about the nice balance between weight shift and power to throttle out of trouble if arises...

the older vios is either u maintain D (if GB maintain on 4th gear, u are screwed if obstacle come up) or stick the gear to 2 and u get too much power if u decided to throttle... lol
a cheat way for the previous vios is to disable the O/D ratio but somehow it is not the same as the dugong vios... lol

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i recall u sed trail braking is crazy -.-" sweat.gif

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LoL
the moment the vios arrive at my house, i junked the NCT5 and throw in T1R...
laugh.gif

actually u can try trail braking into corner its nice if done correctly... ... but only for the new dugong vios... because the new dugong vios can downshift and hold 3rd gear which is just about the nice balance between weight shift and power to throttle out of trouble if arises...

the older vios is either u maintain D (if GB maintain on 4th gear, u are screwed if obstacle come up) or stick the gear to 2 and u get too much power if u decided to throttle... lol
a cheat way for the previous vios is to disable the O/D ratio but somehow it is not the same as the dugong vios... lol
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 23 2009, 10:55 AM)
ok la... not too expensive... with PP2 straight line braking in wet is ok... not to worry about that... smile.gif
but during the rain always careful during cornering,very dangerous for emergency braking... for what ever tire u use...
not only noisy man... no grip (for me la) during wet after 50% of usage... sweat.gif it activated my ABS most of the time when i brake a lil hard during declining a hill... gripping also  not that superior... most of the AW forummer call it the tire to kill... haha
yea you can get it at that price in Klang... smile.gif in PJ around RM240... i got my Hankook V12 for only Rm180 a lil more comfort compare to PP2 but handling about 0.5 secs slower... but other performance is comparable with PP2... not bad... this tire good for ppl which have hard suspension setup... coz it is a UHP tire wif a lil comfort... smile.gif
er... Advan 07 i think mostly sold out... 08 is here... sorry can't help... call up quicksave +603 5636 0917 for info...
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if can get also old stock
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QUOTE(moon* @ Oct 23 2009, 10:53 AM)
i recall u sed trail braking is crazy -.-" sweat.gif
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memang crazy if your rear lost grip...

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I'm not kaya to use Toyo like you tongue.gif

Nevertheless, I'm seldom trash my daily car because it serves its own purpose and wouldn't burden my pocket for petrol as well.
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195/55/15 only about RM 280
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QUOTE(igor_is300 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:43 PM)
Ic. Thanks
What the ?

Dunno yet bro, let me test first ermkay ? tongue.gif

I'm not track 'kaki' like my friend tongue.gif . This year only, he already changed 3 sets of tyres. All this due to Sepang HPCs and Genting whacked out session.
I drive slow like an uncle tongue.gif

It takes skills and guts to handle NCT5 during wet and corner especially when the thread is almost thin. As far as I remember during using the NCT5, I had 2 times controllable skid during high speed. The rule of the thumb is never ever hit your brake hard when driving on wet or emergency braking. Try to control the accelerator first when slowing down and slowly pressing the brake carefully. When entering corner always practice brake first and enter and not braking during cornering. While cornering the only thing you have to do is control the accelerator carefully when taking the apex. Unless there is urgency to press the brake then you have to do so.

I'm using 195/55/R15. Bought it around RM225/piece with production date of 'Week 38 2009'.
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QUOTE(amduser @ Oct 23 2009, 11:33 AM)
dont risk your life lar, will harm the other as well, never put trust in NCT5, even a whole new tires can skid like no tomorrow.
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normal driving is ok....
but not for "performance" or shall we call it spirited driving...
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but i add raining time better becareful about emergency brake... and highway drive... a few small patches of water in a roll can send u spinning around...
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I'm using Continental Comfort 195/60/R15 currently and would like to hear the review from you guys.

Hope you guys can share with me.
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QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 22 2009, 01:06 AM)
good choice...but now...u will go around 30k km oni...then the tire botak...laugh.gif
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not so fast la oly. it will last slightly under 50k with normal driving style. 30k km is for speed freak whistling.gif

QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 22 2009, 09:26 AM)
NCT5 useless tire... i throw mine away when it left more than 40% of thread... read thru some old post here...
i have some review about it... smile.gif cheers...
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car, btw tongue.gif )
traction totally sux in wet... equally no grip in corner and hard braking sweat.gif using that nct5 when i was still a complete noob about cars and the goodyear shop in miharja recommended me that hopeless tyres a few years
back mad.gif

guys, any news on the AD08 here yet?
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AD08 is here
195/50/r15 costs RM4xx
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 24 2009, 12:56 PM)
AD08 is here
195/50/r15 costs RM4xx
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Any one use Nexen (Korean brand) before? Recommended by 1 of the famour tyre shop in Taman University, SS3...
195/55 R15 cost RM175, same as Falken..

Agreed NCT5 tak boleh pakai...2 times accident during raining....with ABS...when driving 60km/hr


Added on October 24, 2009, 2:55 pmwhere can get V12 around PJ or Cheras area? Need to change for my old Vios too..

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QUOTE(Andy0625 @ Oct 24 2009, 12:55 AM)
I'm using Continental Comfort 195/60/R15 currently and would like to hear the review from you guys.

Hope you guys can share with me.
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came as stock along with the car....smooth at the begining but after about one year (25k) of using...the steering vibrate no matter how much balancing is done..and when its being rotated on the balancing machine..i can see its "jumping"/not smooth....but not when the tire is new .....my opinion might be wrong.... laugh.gif
but grip during corning on dry is good and wet not bad as well...and if u want to get better cornering..pump extra 1 or 2psi for this tire...
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 24 2009, 12:56 PM)
AD08 is here
195/50/r15 costs RM4xx
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yeah! just got the news from a friend which is a Yokohama fanatic too. he was looking for 17" but
AD08 entry level size of 17" cost around 9xx bucks rclxub.gif
look like gonna hold on for a while till the price drop....slightly!
there are still quite a number of AD07 available in Pandan Indah, btw.
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better go for re070...oem tires for r35,civic type r and ver 10 scooby...brows.gif
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hello bro and sis, wanna change tire soon... currently using sports contact 1 ... ok ok but noisy..
after helping my mom change primacy lc on her ride.. definitely love it.

can anyone tell me the ride confort and noise between michelling pp2 and ziex ze912 ?? i know handling michelling gonna be much better.. but i wanna know about the comfort and noise if michellin is a little noiser and harsher then i wouldnt mind.. if its alot of difference then i think ill stick to my decision on going for the ziex
and also anyone can recommend me those tire that provide good comfort and noise oso good for ocassional harsh driving thanks beside those two.
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michelin pp2 quite nice...falken ziex 912 also not bad...but make sure made in thailand...if made in indonesia dont buy...suck...
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ya i know they are nice tyres.. but if u have used before can let me know hows the noise and comfort of these tyres?
about indonesian tyre... which brand are you refering to?? both of them? thanks
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QUOTE(shinjite @ Oct 24 2009, 12:56 PM)
AD08 is here
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Oct 25 2009, 09:06 PM)
hello bro and sis, wanna change tire soon... currently using sports contact 1 ... ok ok but noisy..
after helping my mom change primacy lc on her ride.. definitely love it.

can anyone tell me the ride confort and noise between michelling pp2 and ziex ze912 ??  i know handling michelling gonna be much better.. but i wanna know about the comfort and noise if michellin is a little noiser and harsher then i wouldnt mind.. if its alot of difference then i think ill stick to my decision on  going for the ziex
and also anyone can recommend me those tire that provide good comfort and noise oso good for ocassional harsh driving thanks beside those two.
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if you wanna compare PP2 with 912... sorry to say but i have not used 912 b4 coz that is performance level not UHP...
comfort - 912
handling - PP2
Grips - PP2
Quiet - 912
912 sure more comfort as it aim is performance comfort... not like PP2 where is focus more on its handling.. if about handling then PP2 beats 912... because of it's harder sidewall it give you harsher ride but better handling... grips for PP2 in Wet and Dry also will be better than 912 again... PP2 hydroplaning/aquaplaning is one of the best in it's class... but in terms of quietness i still choose 912 coz PP2 will get a lil noisier when it thread wears after 60%...
2 of the tire is in total different categories...
u need better comments and recommendation please give us ur car model, tire size also... then choose... priority... Noise, Handling, Grip, Comfort... 1~4 rank it... there is nothing to perfect but just u can to compromise a bit on certain area...
u can try Hankook V12 if you are using some sizes as it give you similar performance like PP2 but noisier, a lil more toward comfort and the last cheaper...


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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:28 AM)
How much i can get hankook v12 or michelin primacy?. Is michelin primacy lc cost more than PP2.
Another tire I'm interested in is conti sport-contact. Anyone knows the market price now. Currently on standard tyres silverstone kruizer ns500. Time to change since more than 40K using the standard tires. Tyre size is 195-55-R15
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try Hankook V12... as it's performance is comparable with PP2 but the only down side it is a lil noisier than PP2...
its comfort also better than PP2, in return PP2 will be superior in Hydroplaning and also Handling... for Primacy LC, i would say if you driving style is a lil aggressive then it is not suitable for you... this tire is for those luxury saloon which will be driven by non-aggressive driver... as it is soft (comfort) and quiet...
so if you wanna switch from ur current tire i think Hankook V12 evo is ok for you... smile.gif
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Guys...

How does all this 3 tires do, in GRIP, WET and STEERING RESPONSE

Size
215/45R17

Toyo T1R vs Yokohama S-Drive vs Michelin PP2
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I'm hunting for tires. Good reviews on v12 PP2. Taking those tires into consideration. Anyone can comment on michelin primacy. Also what about conti premium contact and sportcontact. Anyone can give review on them?
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QUOTE(Intrigue @ Oct 26 2009, 10:46 AM)
Guys...

How does all this 3 tires do, in GRIP, WET and STEERING RESPONSE

Size
215/45R17

Toyo T1R vs Yokohama S-Drive vs Michelin PP2
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well PP2 did fairly well is all expect... but for that size y don u try out GY F1 Assy which is a lil better than all of these???
Toyo T1R have a softer compound... PP2 have a harder side all and it has 1 of the best aquaplaning/hydroplaning in the class...
S Drive is also did fairly good in every expect... so all this 3 tires really depend on ur preference... T1R and S Drive is directional thread hence it will be noisier than PP2... for a lil comfort GY F1 Assy and Toyo T1R is the choice... but T1R got ppl complaint that it is comfort but the thread life is short... S Drive ppl complaint is noisy that ll what i heard of... but that is your drive??? which is ur priority??? I presume Traction is the most important... choose urself Handing, Noise, Comfort???

QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:49 AM)
I'm hunting for tires. Good reviews on v12 PP2. Taking those tires into consideration. Anyone can comment on michelin primacy. Also what about conti premium contact and sportcontact. Anyone can give review on them?
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look a the top i have answered ur question...
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A little confused I thought i posted my question about price on another thread. Anyway Thanx for your suggestion.

Actually my preference would be moderate performance and comfortable but not noisy. Also good performance in wet. The perfect choice might be v12 but i read that alot of tyre shop is out of stock. So i need to have a backup choice. My current silverstone kruizer just so so in wet. On comfort, kruizer not really bad really. So my choice of tires should be a level above kruizer.

What about conti sportcontact or premium contact? I've eliminate comfortcontact because i think it's not really an upgrade from my current tires. Conti doesn't seem to be the favourite choice here. I think conti tyres are good too. Not a lot of user review on conti.
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well what is ur ride... V12 or PP2 is your choice... smile.gif
in order to give you a more accurate info we need to know ur ride...
coz if ur ride have stiff or hard suspension system... then PP2 might be out of the list... coz it has harder side wall

try to look for Ban Hooi Klang i think they do have stock... call up Teik Ming Sunway to ask also... smile.gif

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hows dunlop D01???...i see quite alot people using it... smile.gif ...and even my friends just changed their tires also dunlop d01...
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After using this Federal 595 EVO for about 3 weeks and have drove about 2k plus km
Noise level is high 7/10
Tire side wall stiff 6/10
Dry grip 7.5/10
Wet grip 6/10
Rubber wear 5/10

Dry grip tire very easy to reach optium temperature and dont need to push to warm up it... after reach working temp it will grip very well if you know how to take cornering line in high speed the tire dont make noise, for Understeer in some corner rarely happen in medium & high speed but if entering corner at high speed to a slow speed corner it do understeer due to cornering & braking at the same time

Wet road i just push in strait line ... grip is well to cut alot water, Cornering i dint push much as our normal road got oil on the road surface so it will be make it more slippery so GUYS dont push your luck till the edge some time.
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my car is gen2 2008. Current suspension all is standard.

Tek ming sunway quite popular. Their price can match klang?

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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:23 PM)
hows dunlop D01???...i see quite alot people using it... smile.gif ...and even my friends just changed their tires also dunlop d01...
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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:25 PM)
After using this Federal 595 EVO for about 3 weeks and have drove about 2k plus km
Noise level is high 7/10
Tire side wall stiff 6/10
Dry grip 7.5/10
Wet grip 6/10
Rubber wear 5/10

Dry grip tire very easy to reach optium temperature and dont need to push to warm up it... after reach working temp it will grip very well if you know how to take cornering line in high speed the tire dont make noise, for Understeer in some corner rarely happen in medium & high speed but if entering corner at high speed to a slow speed corner it do understeer due to cornering & braking at the same time 

Wet road i just push in strait line ... grip is well to cut alot water, Cornering i dint push much as our normal road got oil on the road surface so it will be make it more slippery so GUYS dont push your luck till the edge some time.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 26 2009, 10:28 AM)
yes and that is crazy... expensive...
if you wanna compare PP2 with 912... sorry to say but i have not used 912 b4 coz that is performance level not UHP...
comfort - 912
handling - PP2
Grips - PP2
Quiet - 912
912 sure more comfort as it aim is performance comfort... not like PP2 where is focus more on its handling.. if about handling then PP2 beats 912... because of it's harder sidewall it give you harsher ride but better handling... grips for PP2 in Wet and Dry also will be better than 912 again... PP2 hydroplaning/aquaplaning is one of the best in it's class... but in terms of quietness i still choose 912 coz PP2 will get a lil noisier when it thread wears after 60%...
2 of the tire is in total different categories...
u need better comments and recommendation please give us ur car model, tire size also... then choose... priority... Noise, Handling, Grip, Comfort... 1~4 rank it... there is nothing to perfect but just u can to compromise a bit on certain area...
u can try Hankook V12 if you are using some sizes as it give you similar performance like PP2 but noisier, a lil more toward comfort and the last cheaper...
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thanks michael for great information and quick feed back. . well now my satria neo tyre going bald soon, tyre stock 195/50/r16 still undecided whether wanna stick to stock profile or go 205/50 or 205/45 series haha.. does the extra width provide a little more comfort? im not really looking for UHP tyres cos i oredi have falken rt-615 on my weekend ride. this satria is used for daily run and sometimes need to go to construction site. so i need some comfort . my priority 1st is comfort and noise then only performance then only thread wear rating. but since u said the car will get a little noisier when reaching 60% then i think i will stick to 912, but do you know these both tyre thread wear rating at?


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QUOTE(heng84 @ Oct 26 2009, 01:13 PM)
thanks michael for great information and quick feed back. .  well now my satria neo tyre going bald soon, tyre stock 195/50/r16 still undecided whether wanna stick to stock profile or go 205/50 or 205/45 series haha.. does the extra width provide a little more comfort?  im not really looking for UHP tyres cos i oredi have falken rt-615 on my weekend ride. this satria is used for daily run and sometimes need to go to construction site and also some occasional harsh drive. so i need some comfort . my priority 1st is comfort and noise then only performance then only thread wear rating.  but since u said the car will get a little noisier when reaching 60% then i think i will stick to 912, but do you know these both tyre thread wear rating at?
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QUOTE(loong2020 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:23 PM)
hows dunlop D01???...i see quite alot people using it... smile.gif ...and even my friends just changed their tires also dunlop d01...
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it sucks.... smile.gif ppl duno about oothers or wanna cheap stuff go for that...


QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:25 PM)
After using this Federal 595 EVO for about 3 weeks and have drove about 2k plus km
Noise level is high 7/10
Tire side wall stiff 6/10
Dry grip 7.5/10
Wet grip 6/10
Rubber wear 5/10

Dry grip tire very easy to reach optium temperature and dont need to push to warm up it... after reach working temp it will grip very well if you know how to take cornering line in high speed the tire dont make noise, for Understeer in some corner rarely happen in medium & high speed but if entering corner at high speed to a slow speed corner it do understeer due to cornering & braking at the same time 

Wet road i just push in strait line ... grip is well to cut alot water, Cornering i dint push much as our normal road got oil on the road surface so it will be make it more slippery so GUYS dont push your luck till the edge some time.
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yea most of the ppl say it is good... smile.gif ur ride pls... smile.gif

QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 26 2009, 12:35 PM)
my car is gen2 2008. Current suspension all is standard.

Tek ming sunway quite popular. Their price can match klang?
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Oct 26 2009, 01:13 PM)
thanks michael for great information and quick feed back. .  well now my satria neo tyre going bald soon, tyre stock 195/50/r16 still undecided whether wanna stick to stock profile or go 205/50 or 205/45 series haha.. does the extra width provide a little more comfort?  im not really looking for UHP tyres cos i oredi have falken rt-615 on my weekend ride. this satria is used for daily run and sometimes need to go to construction site. so i need some comfort . my priority 1st is comfort and noise then only performance then only thread wear rating.  but since u said the car will get a little noisier when reaching 60% then i think i will stick to 912, but do you know these both tyre thread wear rating at?


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use 205/50 for u if u wan comfort... Falken 912 will be nice... smile.gif
or PP2 is 240 or 280 can't really remember...912 haven use b4 so duno..
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Any one could comment on the Bridgestone MY01 performance? Compare with Yokohama 912?

195/50/R15....
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MY01... almost similar with 912 but 912 is is towards comfort...
if you are looking for good and cheap UHP tires... Hankook V12 is the one... i'm using 1 now... 195/55 R15 on my '05 Vios... nice balance of comfort and performance... smile.gif
if not mistaken MY-01 and D-01 traction's rating is only A only... whereas PP2, S Drive, V12, T1R, and few others UHP tires is AA is a step better than those 2 commonly used...
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well im do alot of cornering.

So far dont talk about semi slicks.

below Rm200. no need to pick anymore. prada spec 2. is the best. people said sidewall is soft. yes correct. but i manage to make it better by pump more air in it. im usually pump while do cornering at 255 pressure.
normal drive mayb just go 245 or 240.

so about not semi slicks.

potenza Re001, is the best but price. Wow. but not sure is very nice. cuz my 1st performance tire i try in low budget is prada spec 2. and now wanna go between 200 to Rm250.

any suggestion? so far Rs2 hancook is that price. V12 how much is it same as Rs2? and how about Hero molenza H1 i think.. the tire thread look like Rs2 hankook as well.

About semi slicks, so far is Ad07 but no more production and the next best and cheap semi slicks is Federal 595S. i heard alot.

but the rubber do hard core cornering thread will split out.. hmm like u use pencil rubber and u try to erase it and that Rubber Shit tongue.gif tat peel off like that.

and also must well taken care of the tire or else the sidewall can split. like old people strip line u know ?

so i wanted people have giv more option for me as well plz! pro and really do lot of cornering people. i dont care about noise. since prada spec 2 are not that quite as well.

my choice for non semi slicks are Rs2, or hero milanza HR1 .
and yet also got someone recommended me. Achilles 123. the thread look a like R888 toyo.
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QUOTE(bizzy @ Oct 26 2009, 03:25 PM)
well im do alot of cornering.

So far dont talk about semi slicks.

below Rm200. no need to pick anymore. prada spec 2. is the best. people said sidewall is soft. yes correct. but i manage to make it better by pump more air in it. im usually pump while do cornering at 255 pressure.
normal drive mayb just go 245 or 240.

so about not semi slicks.

potenza Re001, is the best but price. Wow. but not sure is very nice. cuz my 1st performance tire i try in low budget is prada spec 2. and now wanna go between 200 to Rm250.

any suggestion? so far Rs2 hancook is that price. V12 how much is it same as Rs2? and how about Hero molenza H1 i think.. the tire thread look like Rs2 hankook as well.

About semi slicks, so far is Ad07 but no more production and the next best and cheap semi slicks is Federal 595S. i heard alot.

but the rubber do hard core cornering thread will split out.. hmm like u use pencil rubber and u try to erase it and that Rubber Shit tongue.gif tat peel off like that.

and also must well taken care of the tire or else the sidewall can split. like old people strip line u know ?

so i wanted people have giv more option for me as well plz! pro and really do lot of cornering people. i dont care about noise. since prada spec 2 are not that quite as well.

my choice for non semi slicks are Rs2, or hero milanza HR1 .
and yet also got someone recommended me. Achilles 123. the thread look a like R888 toyo.
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what size?..achilles 123 not that good...u can try federal rsr that im selling...on track oni 0.5 slower than r888...

re001,pp2 n t1r is on same league...

that rubber that peel off is semi slick compound...its normal actually for semi slick...
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well im looking around 200 to 250. and 15inch rims here.

federal 595 all semi slicks grade or ?

cuz i never really double check on the model. look at ur thread only know there have 3 model of 595.

well i wanted to get from u but. im in penang sad.gif

but hero milanza thread look like the 595 SS.



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well Hankook is not Hancock... haha...
Hankook V12 is a good all rounder if you wan a bit comfort + performance... and it is cheap RM190 for 195/55 R15 fitted on my Vios more than 6 months...
Federal is ok also but depends what you want... for you, the ride might be a lil harsh... depends...
what is ur priorities... Handling, Ride comfort??? choose 1... then u need to consider about noise also... smile.gif

btw u pump 255??? about 34 PSI only??? my Vios i'm using 35~36 PSI in front already with my Hankook V12...
the ride is still accceptable for my side... if you cannot give up the ride comfort then better u skip those semi slick tires...

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No conti user here to give review? Hope v12 will be available again next month when i go to klang.

Went with a friend to batu gajah yesterday to survey tyres and ask for michelin primacy. One worker pointed to a set of tyres he called MICHELIN MAXXIS!
Totally clueless that guy. Another worker proudly said they don't sell cheap tyres(Since when michelin is cheap). They only have michelin made in Italy? price at RM350 for 15 inch!!! Ask him what type he don't know just claim it's from Italy. Hopeless shop.
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bro, yokohama never come out with 912. you could be referring to falken ze912.
both are almost equal but comfort and noise wise, falken912 is a lil' ahead.

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i finally got hold of the v12 on my friend's car. the overall performance is up to my expectation thumbup.gif
slightly more comfortable than c.drive.

btw, from my experience, sime astar 300 perform slightly better than d-01 in wet tongue.gif
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Yoko a drive is available below rm200. Anyone knows about this tyre. Should i consider it?
S drive is available too in my tyre size but is way above my budget.
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Yoko a drive is available below rm200. Anyone knows about this tyre. Should i consider it?
S drive is available too in my tyre size but is way above my budget.
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what size?..its quite good...

michael:u using 34 psi?...im using 32 front and rear 30 oni...im using 2.0 turbo engine woo...
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here is my car setup, basically i was doing 2 testing Tire & suspension

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By the way my car Setup for Titan suspension is
Car: vios manual
Car weight : 1020KG as per spec but mine abit lighter weight
Wheel Setup 15"
Rim weight: 3.9kg per wheels.
Tire : Federal 595EVO .... tire spec UTQG 260.A.A for tread wear and grip level performance.
Tire Preasure: Front 260/kpa Rear 220/kpa normal gas station air.

Camber Setting
front 1.5
Rear 0 as OEM cant be adjust

Titan suspension setup
Spring Rate
Front 5kg/mm Rear about 2~2.5kg/mm (rear is about standard spring from toyota and supply by APM)

Day 1
Before Install...
when to test drive at ampang lookup point/ little genting
-Road condition not all part of the road is smooth, some part of the road is patch here and there and some part of the road is deeps in maybe road patch is not very well... like this ------_________---------
-Car Condition all stock just sport rims ..
-test run 1 stock speed up about 70kmh~90kmh, during corner the car very unstable speed was drop to 60kmh when coming downhill, during cornering the car feel like in a boat ride when wave is strong... so i backoff try not to risk

then when to install Titan suspension

After install Titan suspension, they check the setting and have some driving around the office ...

After all the done, Titan son and me when for test drive we use some short cut road to Ampang lookup point ...
i start with slow drive to feel how it respond on slow speed at 60kmh... good ride feel like using sport spring not too stiff ...cornering is stable ...
Then i increase the speed to 100kmh ~ 120kmh in strait road and corner the feel is much more better very control suspension damping & rebound is very well set.... then we reach a part of corner with patch road with deeps in ------_______-------- is during cornering speed at that time was 110kmh... i was scare the tail of the car will let go (oversteer) cause happen to me before ... sad experince that time ... so i dint think much continue to speed dont care much ...surprise dint Oversteer at all so i continue few more corner .... hehe really happy then on the way back to Titan office i take a 90 degree turn and jam brake during turning ... surprise the rear part of the car dint power slide off ..... even Titan son also surprise

Day 2 testing is on hill road with high speed corner and medium speed corner road was very smooth...

Day 2 Medium speed & High speed corner ( #Dont Try this At home# )
Location from shah alam to KL to Berjaya Hill resort

-ride from Shah alam to Gombak toll was fine, even my co-driver dint notice i have install Titan suspension at the early stage... dint tell him about the installation ..hehe when reach road that have yellow line to slow your car speed ... it feel stiff if the yellow line is thicker at some road ... i had that ride feel even in stock suspension...

-Going up hill was fine then i told my co-driver i have install titan he was shock, he say the car dint bounce much on the slow speed and ride is confort car speed follow speed limit hehe then after the Genting tunnel i increase speed abit on the long strait downhill, after that long strait got few medium speed corner (last time on my old car max ever go is 100/kmh) then i try to push with Titan at that time was doing 130kmh ~ 140kmh got some G force feel hehe... surprice the Federal 595EVO tire dint not loss traction dint feel understeer during turning and even increase speed in the corner

-When arrive at Berjaya hill resort at the early guard house before arrive the hill up there the road surface is smooth but the tar is not so nice tire killer road ...hehe during that time my tire have reach optium temperature small stone stick on the tire when drive slow slow 20/kmh... continue to drive the road designer was very good for berjaya hill resort if drive FR can play drifting haha... continue to attack corner after corner... push and push want to feel when is the tire oversteer and understeer but it just continue give more traction really good tire

#Dont Try this at home#
-on the way back to KL from berjaya hill resort slow drive after the tunnel cause rain that time, then from tunnel after that got few medium speed also driving slow wet road hehe... after that long strait the road was dry and nice then a myvi over take me outside, i continue to push in corner he dare not to push hehe ... then a lotus elise on my tail .. he tail gate me then when strait he over take me then in a fast corner i follow him very close bumper to bumper that time in front of him was no car he was pushing in corner and i follow him very close that time during cornering i was doing 160/kmh ~ 170/kmh my friend was so silent dare not to say any things that time ...haha tire grip still very good dint feel understeer or oversteer after that corner come to main strait again then i loss out on topspeed but good fight on the high speed corner sedan 1.5 VS sport car 1.8 with MR drive system...haha our Vios really can kick some butt even lotus cant pull away in high speed corner (maybe driver issue)...haha

After that follow speed limit ...that is Day 2 testing


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QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 27 2009, 01:03 AM)
what size?..its quite good...

michael:u using 34 psi?...im using 32 front and rear 30 oni...im using 2.0 turbo engine woo...
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Yoko a drive size 195/55//15 can get around 185-200. Quite tempting price for me since I'm looking for a good set of tires below 200 a piece. Although if the tyres not good then there's no point.

Yoko S drive that size close to 300. Too expensive for me.
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wow, vios 160 km/h in karak
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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 27 2009, 06:29 AM)
Oly & michael9413

here is my car setup, basically i was doing 2 testing Tire & suspension
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quite nice eh...
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 26 2009, 08:12 PM)
@michael9413@
i finally got hold of the v12 on my friend's car. the overall performance is up to my expectation  thumbup.gif
slightly more comfortable than c.drive.

btw, from my experience, sime astar 300 perform slightly better than d-01 in wet  tongue.gif
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yea it is quite amazing for me at first coz the comfort is there but the grip for corners is quite well also...

QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 27 2009, 01:03 AM)
michael:u using 34 psi?...im using 32 front and rear 30 oni...im using 2.0 turbo engine woo...
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well it depends on individual preference... my Hankook V12 is a lil comfort but i can give pump the pressure a bit higher to obtain the handling that i prefer... but in over all it is a bit more comfort than PP2 and its just perform like it also except the hydroplaning PP2 still hold the upper hand... smile.gif for noise i'm still yet to determine as my hankook V12 still not reach 50% yet...

QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 27 2009, 06:29 AM)
Oly & michael9413

here is my car setup, basically i was doing 2 testing Tire & suspension

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After that follow speed limit ...that is Day 2 testing
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good review... this tire is in my mind also when i wanna do my next change... smile.gif
actually u can try out Hankook V12 also... not bad it gives u comfort while it got most of the performance of PP2...
u better becareful in Karak... not that good to drive that fast although i drive that fast there b4 but careful... smile.gif
My SEG and Vios i did that b4... but not now lo... after hear so many horror stories i think better be safe than regret...
will try my old toy if i have the chance... but still i will say safety 1st...

QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 27 2009, 07:39 AM)
Yoko a drive size 195/55//15 can get around 185-200.  Quite tempting price for me since I'm looking for a good set of tires below 200 a piece. Although if the tyres not good then there's no point.

Yoko S drive that size close to 300. Too expensive for me.
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yea S Drive is a lil expensive... try Michelin PP2 it cost less than RM240 if not mistaken... A drive is not good for you if you wan handling... if you wanna take A Drive u better try Falken 912 which has good review also... try to look around for Hankook V12 it is around A drive's price but it's performance is much better... smile.gif it give you comfort while it's performance is comparable with Michelin PP2 and Yokohama S Drive also... smile.gif

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Yoko tires thread quite cun for me. Looks aggressive. But you don't buy tires because of their thread right.
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:27 PM)
Yoko tires thread quite cun for me. Looks aggressive. But you don't buy tires because of their thread right.
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but some people buy because of the thread...such as parade spec 2...very nice and aggressive looking tires...
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yes do not buy the tire cos of thread... if u r like that then u never will touch PP2... but it is quite good although the wet handling could be better... otherwise it is a good tire...
because it is asymmetric pattern... not aggressive looking...
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QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 25 2009, 09:15 PM)
michelin pp2 quite nice...falken ziex 912 also not bad...but make sure made in thailand...if made in indonesia dont buy...suck...
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why indonesia dont buy?
any reason? icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:50 AM)
Yoko a drive is available below rm200. Anyone knows about this tyre. Should i consider it?
S drive is available too in my tyre size but is way above my budget.
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a.drive is an entry level tyre from yokohama. comfort level is on par with ze912 / pp2 but it wasn't designed for spirited driving.
sux in fast corner.
195/60/r15 of c.drive is available around 200 bucks too. more grip in corner but ride is firmer than a.drive.
then again, we can never have the comfort and performance at the same time... either one have to be compromised by the suspension setup tongue.gif


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Noted, as last time i was asking high speed balancing ...

during that day 2 testing chasing lotus in the cornering, during cornering at i think 180kmh + my steering was vibrate .... cause when i try to reach topspeed steering also start to vibrate at that speed 180kmh ...

after that when i look at the meter it was 160~170 ... can say fast ... i was that time try to push what it the limit of the tire...

so i was asking where can do high speed balancing to stop the wheel vibrate issue...in another thread

i only can advise is dont push your luck till the edge in the rain no mater how good is the tire are
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 01:26 PM)
yes do not buy the tire cos of thread... if u r like that then u never will touch PP2... but it is quite good although the wet handling could be better... otherwise it is a good tire...
because it is asymmetric pattern... not aggressive looking...
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pp2 is among the normal looking tires...if put side by side with re001,t1r surely people will ignore it...laugh.gif

QUOTE(feralee @ Oct 27 2009, 01:28 PM)
why indonesia dont buy?
any reason?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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quality suck...not as good as thailand...

QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 27 2009, 01:41 PM)
a.drive is an entry level tyre from yokohama. comfort level is on par with ze912 / pp2 but it wasn't designed for spirited driving.
sux in fast corner.
195/60/r15 of c.drive is available around 200 bucks too. more grip in corner but ride is firmer than a.drive.
then again, we can never have the comfort and performance at the same time... either one have to be compromised by the suspension setup  tongue.gif
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go for 205/55@60 la bro...better...
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 27 2009, 01:41 PM)
a.drive is an entry level tyre from yokohama. comfort level is on par with ze912 / pp2 but it wasn't designed for spirited driving.
sux in fast corner.
195/60/r15 of c.drive is available around 200 bucks too. more grip in corner but ride is firmer than a.drive.
then again, we can never have the comfort and performance at the same time... either one have to be compromised by the suspension setup  tongue.gif
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sorry u cannot compare comfort level of 912 n A drive to PP2...
PP2 is more towards handling tire... it has harder side wall than even C Drive how can u say it is comfort as 912 or A drive???
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michael9413 - u using V12 now?

how is the noise level?
this tire from thailand?

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 02:49 PM)
sorry u cannot compare comfort level of 912 n A drive to PP2...
PP2 is more towards handling tire... it has harder side wall than even C Drive how can u say it is comfort as 912 or A drive???
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cheeann, PP2 not that good ler. rolleyes.gif
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cheeann, PP2 not that good ler. rolleyes.gif
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in term of handling it's better than wat he state lo~
but in term of wear n tear sure not tat good la~ whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(cheeann @ Oct 27 2009, 03:14 PM)
r u sure? ?
in term of handling it's better than wat he state lo~
but in term of wear n tear sure not tat good  la~  whistling.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif
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pp2 is entry level oni...same under re001,t1r,s drive maaa...
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QUOTE(Gouki @ Oct 27 2009, 05:07 PM)
for me its so so UHP tires only. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(feralee @ Oct 27 2009, 02:41 PM)
michael9413 - u using V12 now?

how is the noise level?
this tire from thailand?
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not from Thailand la... Korean Tire made in Korea... Directional thread what do you expect... but still ok ok for my lo...
compare to PP2 it is still noisier... but S Drive much more noisier than V12 if not mistaken...

QUOTE(cheeann @ Oct 27 2009, 02:43 PM)
guess he neva use PP2 like u do lo~  rolleyes.gif
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well bro how can u compare a entry level tire to UHP... sweat.gif the softness of A drive is like Primacy LC... for comfort...
PP2 if you say comfort... then i duno y ppl who drives honda complaint about... FYI got a few reviews from ppl who use PP2 in their CT or Civic... 1 word "harsh" ride...

QUOTE(Oly @ Oct 27 2009, 04:10 PM)
pp2 is entry level oni...same under re001,t1r,s drive maaa...
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are you sure ar... the test done by Opel S drive falls behind Hankook V12 evo and Michelin PE2 (PP2 thread but different tire compound) RE001 not to mention but it is darn expensive, but not as expensive as AD08... T1R thread life also very short...

Bro Gouki, ya it is not that good in wet cornering but dry it still do what ever it takes... and also it is Asymmetric tires not directional and it is more quiet compare to a lot of UHP tires... thumbup.gif
i know tat nothing comes with all but for me at least V12 noise is still bearable but it have good amount of grip... i did not dare to try others UHP tires which a AW forumer told me to forget about others as i look for UHP with quiet drive... PP2 give me quiet until about 40% left... Hankook V12 used about 6 months already still bearable... now Federal 595 Evo and also Toyo T1R i'm quite interested but not sure about their noise level, but i expect T1R to be quite quiet also coz it has soft compound also...
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@michael9413@
yeah! agree with you. pp2 was good in fast cornering but losing out on wet grip and thread life sweat.gif
my opinion could be biased; caused by the suspension setup and tyre presure in my car the last time around. tongue.gif
feel comfy' with pp2 back then; while am still on comfort suspension. ever since i shifted to 'stone hard' tein adjustable on my lousy car,
the slight different in tyre can be feel straight away sweat.gif

btw, among the directional thread i've d try, v12's noise level was the most tolerable.


am tempted to try federal. oly, any federal tyre on 205/55/r15?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 05:32 PM)
not from Thailand la... Korean Tire made in Korea... Directional thread what do you expect... but still ok ok for my lo...
compare to PP2 it is still noisier... but S Drive much more noisier than V12 if not mistaken...
well bro how can u compare a entry level tire to UHP... sweat.gif the softness of A drive is like Primacy LC... for comfort...
PP2 if you say comfort... then i duno y ppl who drives honda complaint about... FYI got a few reviews from ppl who use PP2 in their CT or Civic... 1 word "harsh" ride...
are you sure ar... the test done by Opel S drive falls behind Hankook V12 evo and Michelin PE2 (PP2 thread but different tire compound) RE001 not to mention but it is darn expensive, but not as expensive as AD08... T1R thread life also very short...

Bro Gouki, ya it is not that good in wet cornering but dry it still do what ever it takes... and also it is Asymmetric tires not directional and it is more quiet compare to a lot of UHP tires... thumbup.gif
i know tat nothing comes with all but for me at least V12 noise is still bearable but it have good amount of grip... i did not dare to try others UHP tires which a AW forumer told me to forget about others as i look for UHP with quiet drive... PP2 give me quiet until about 40% left... Hankook V12 used about 6 months already still bearable... now Federal 595 Evo and also Toyo T1R i'm quite interested but not sure about their noise level, but i expect T1R to be quite quiet also coz it has soft compound also...
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Hup Shun isn't good right. How bout Teck Ming. or L.S


Or any other place that is in the Klang Valley with several which is awesome and your favourite place.
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Been using AD07 and lovin it, now ard 60% left so im wondering what shud i get next? For 195/55/15 whats the current price for AD08 and RE001? Thx biggrin.gif
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haha got info... no la... talk a lot with gang... i'm from USJ... have a gang who like tire and grooming... we are having TT every month... smile.gif

Bro CheeAnn... i know, all PP series tire will not have soft side wall... PP or PP2 same cos i used both b4
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:57 PM)
haha got info... no la... talk a lot with gang... i'm from USJ... have a gang who like tire and grooming... we are having TT every month... smile.gif

Bro CheeAnn... i know, all PP series tire will not have soft side wall... PP or PP2 same cos i used both b4
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yea but u can skip both if you wan comfort... am i correct???
some feedbacks is when u put it with Honda CT and Civic the ppl behind will have buttock massage... the ride is harsh...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 12:21 PM)
good review... this tire is in my mind also when i wanna do my next change... smile.gif
actually u can try out Hankook V12 also... not bad it gives u comfort while it got most of the performance of PP2...
u better becareful in Karak... not that good to drive that fast although i drive that fast there b4 but careful... smile.gif
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at karak alot accident is caused by purpose.
example : puting poil on road so ur car can skid n hit something , 15min time you'l see a tow-car come offer u help
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Also genting-batang kali road. Be very-very careful. ALways on the lookout for anything strange on the road.
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 10:57 PM)
haha got info... no la... talk a lot with gang... i'm from USJ... have a gang who like tire and grooming... we are having TT every month... smile.gif

Bro CheeAnn... i know, all PP series tire will not have soft side wall... PP or PP2 same cos i used both b4
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well as i said becareful lo... there sometimes suddenly got jam one... u know what happen in front lo...
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:28 PM)
Also genting-batang kali road. Be very-very careful. ALways on the lookout for anything strange on the road.
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last time me & my friend got go batang kali to test tire too but 1st 1~2 run was check the road condition ... the road was very smooth but some time got falling branch or falling land ... becarefull
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 27 2009, 04:32 PM)
i know tat nothing comes with all but for me at least V12 noise is still bearable but it have good amount of grip... i did not dare to try others UHP tires which a AW forumer told me to forget about others as i look for UHP with quiet drive... PP2 give me quiet until about 40% left... Hankook V12 used about 6 months already still bearable...
I've Hankook shoes... it's actually OK only... but in wet, quite bad.. even in dry.. it's acceptable.. quite squishy
I've moved on to Falken Ziex... it's cheaper and better in everything compared to Hankooks... which surprised me really
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yea u r correct and also sometimes ppl take over ur lane during corner... careful and pls remind urself dafety 1st and ur beloved ones...
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@loong2020@
batang kali -genting and certain strecth at karak highway...esp. near the river is kinda like haunted brows.gif
btw, be extra careful when driving at midnight too. once, i saw a big signboard in the middle of the road.
luckily i managed to avoid it. could be purposely put there by those unresponsible tow truck driver.

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aren't the ride is a bit harsh on 35 - 36 psi? are you on stock suspension, btw? hmm.gif
have you try the federal tyre? considering that the price of 16" ad08 is still sky high,
am kinda tempted to give it a go.
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well have not try Federal... but Hankook V12 has soft compound and also soft side wall still ok lo...
almost like PP2 with 34 PSI but still more comfort...
my Vios all stock... smile.gif

if you want harder side wall tires you can consider S Drive also but it is a lil noisy la... RE001??? 15" for AD08 already RM400 16" around RM500 kua... at that price i duno whether i wanna try or not... next might be Federal.. smile.gif

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noted. thanks.
currently on s.drive 205/55/r15 rear. as expected from directional thread....it's not just a lil noisy but damn noisy tongue.gif tlr and re001 wasn't in my mind. wanna try other brand. looking around for avid hs4 but to not avail.
since i prefer directional thread at the rear. next up could be federal.


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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 28 2009, 11:05 AM)
noted. thanks.
currently on s.drive 205/55/r15 rear. as expected from directional thread....it's not just a lil noisy but damn noisy  tongue.gif  tlr and re001 wasn't in my mind.  wanna try other brand. looking around for avid hs4 but to not avail.
since i prefer directional thread at the rear.  next up could be federal.
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if you scare noisy try Hankook V12 lo... coz it can be consider as quiet for a directional tire... if not i'll straight away change back to PP2 when i notice that lo... coz i need to change just bcos my SEG's PP2 finish already... i realise that Hankook V12 wear and tear quite ok... since it did not have really visible higher wear rate at the shoulder compare to the middle... PP2 i have to really take good care of it... coz if you miss it... the shoulder will wear much faster...
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never hav good comment on A or S drive. non of my friend look on any yoko tire, accept cheap state that prada spec 2.

so far rs2, and federal comment lately, ad07 had no more stories lol.

Re001 remain, and Ad08 expensive. Woot.

im still stuck dunno wanna get federal semi slicks or not hahah

or mayb go for rs2 hankook.

yawnn... please bring out good cornering tire which is cheap and good LOL
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re001 quite good...last time i using it...my bro still using it...1 years and still got more than 70% thread...

my other bro use parada spec 2...he swearing when corner...laugh.gif

me now using ziex 912 for temporary use...comfort dey...laugh.gif

federal rsr anyone?..brows.gif
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pp2 vs hankook ventus v12? anyone

many ppl recomend pp2..but then i read review hankook ventus v12 vs ps2...hehe...hankook trail behind ps2 quite near

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Federal they got few type range from
Semi slick 595 Rs-R performance very close to Toyo R888 on track and the best is alot cheaper the toyo

Street 595 Evo i think cheapest street performance tire, Im using now

Street 595 SS ppl say for drift use ... but saw some MPV using it...


bizzy,
since AD08 is over price why not give a try on Kumho performance is very close to AD08 and price is about half of them ... that subject to size too cause i only check for 15'

another tire is toyo R888 cheaper then AD08 performance is alot better the AD08...

If u all the time is corner kaki try to look for low number UTQ grade >200
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@bizzy,
S drive is still ok ok but if you are aggressive freak and u don mind wet grip pls go for semi-slick...

@xshiro,
if you really read thru the forum i have review it countless time to other members... tired already talking... please search around...
i'd used 3 set of PP series which 2 of them PP2... then currently on Hankook V12 changed on May '09... all 195/55 R15 size...

PP2 is more towards high speed handling (harder side wall), a lil quieter than V12 and hydroplaning is best in it's class...
but u get harsh ride if you have already a sport suspension (not suitable for ppl driving Honda's) for me Vios still ok, Wet cornering may understeer sometimes

V12 offer you better comfort (softer side wall) and also wet cornering...
but u have a slower steering response about 0.5 sec when u are driving around 100km/h and it is noisier than PP2

just a summary pls look back for my post on more details...


@vios2002,
how mcuh is the 595 evo??? i'm using 195/55 R15... what is the previous tire u had used b4??? how does it fair with it?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 28 2009, 02:44 PM)
PP2 is more towards high speed handling (harder side wall), a lil quieter than V12 and hydroplaning is best in it's class...
but u get harsh ride if you have already a sport suspension (not suitable for ppl driving Honda's) for me Vios still ok, Wet cornering may understeer sometimes
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Yeah, maybe because of the harder sidewall, I'm currently using 'wannabe sports setup' as well (tanabe spring with monroe reflex), during highspeed (120 km/h and above) i can feel the hardness but during corner it really response.
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@michael9413,
I can say cheap i get the federal 595 Evo at RM198 pc i dint trade in my old tire...

Last time my old car i use Dunlop & goodyear tire with super hard rubber like taxi driver use cheap cheap good good .... then upgrade to Yokohama A-drive then chop shop tire ... yokohama DNA/ES100 and dunlop something also chop shop ... go genting no issue even from chop shop maybe make in japan... then now Federal 595EVO

before buying 595Evo i was looking for Goodyear RS sport ... every hard to find then look for toyo R1r... price issue ...then 595Rs-R i was worry wet road and high wear rate cause semi slick rubber and i think with 180UTQ ... then skip...

Im still looking for GY RS sport...any idea where got for 15"?
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then u should try out Hankook V12... oh u are looking for that... hmmm not sure though some of the size they seldom have stock..
i duno now i wan some one who use V12 and 595 Evo to compare for me...
coz V12 is comfort and it's performance comparable with some others... and it's noise still bearable and some one did told me it can be consider as quiet for directional tires... what is ur drive... hmmm maybe we can have TT and test the tire...
BTW V12 only cost me RM180 at Klang without any trade in as the old PP2 will be fitted to my SEG... smile.gif
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@michael9413,
if u wan test 595evo can ... maybe TT and some open place ...hehe
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nah no need i only do high speed at some stretch then can feel already... wet grips still need to test during wet condition...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Oct 28 2009, 02:44 PM)
@xshiro,
if you really read thru the forum i have review it countless time to other members... tired already talking... please search around...
i'd used 3 set of PP series which 2 of them PP2... then currently on Hankook V12 changed on May '09... all 195/55 R15 size...

PP2 is more towards high speed handling (harder side wall), a lil quieter than V12 and hydroplaning is best in it's class...
but u get harsh ride if you have already a sport suspension (not suitable for ppl driving Honda's) for me Vios still ok, Wet cornering may understeer sometimes

V12 offer you better comfort (softer side wall) and also wet cornering...
but u have a slower steering response about 0.5 sec when u are driving around 100km/h and it is noisier than PP2

just a summary pls look back for my post on more details...
ok thanks for the info micheal, i will search around. thats really help..
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is ok... smile.gif just trying to help...
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QUOTE(vios2002 @ Oct 28 2009, 01:55 PM)
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i am currently looking at other alternative. seems like 205/55/r15 is quite rare here.
no slick tyre for now cuz they sux' during rainy season sweat.gif
currently using S.Drive(rear), besides, i can't find the softer looking Yokohama Avid H4S.
does the Federal available in that size? where did you bought yours from?
me 'kaki corner' depending on mood brows.gif but i need the tyre as a replacement for my daily ride.
hence, it's only 15" tongue.gif
btw, a friend recommend me a barum bravuris but i've had a bad experience with that tyre before.....
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QUOTE(yngwie @ Oct 31 2009, 11:10 AM)
i am currently looking at other alternative. seems like 205/55/r15 is quite rare here.
no slick tyre for now cuz they sux' during rainy season  sweat.gif
currently using S.Drive(rear), besides, i can't find the softer looking Yokohama Avid H4S.
does the Federal available in that size? where did you bought yours from?
me 'kaki corner' depending on mood  brows.gif  but i need the tyre as a replacement for my daily ride.
hence, it's only 15"  tongue.gif 
btw, a friend recommend me a barum bravuris but i've had a bad experience with that tyre before.....
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Bro i thinkfor size u need to check Federal web page...
current i using 595evo size 195/55/15 but after install look like 205/55/15 ..

this month Hypertune magazine got some review on Federal 595Evo tire on their demo ride subaru Ver8... more review in next month as they say will go for track testing....

yesterday came back from outstation ... will write more info and feedback ... very heavy rain in highway..
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Try BS Potenza Adrenalin-RE001.(Semi slick)
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Hey there, i m on SEG 1.6 M and now using 195/55/15 sport rims with Dunlop Formula D01...

previously on stock rims 185/65/14 ( think) and yokohama S306

changed to dunlop due to s306 making me VERY VERY paranoid in wet conditions....

s306 nice 2 skid/slide in d dry through controllable slide....

dunlop is on rails in dry but once traction breaks threes NO control

dunlop is much better in wet with a pretty good price 2 years back.

its time to change and i am looking for comfort + quiet + good wet handling.

Please share comments experiences on those 2 tires mentioned above as well as recommendations on future choices and prices.

not into spirited driving everyday jus once in a bLUE MoOn

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er... throw all away... ???
well if you are using 195/55 R15 and u wan control during wet condition you have few choices.... Michelin PP2, Hankook V12, BS Adrenalin RE001, Toyo T1R... those tire if not mistaken all rated AA in traction standard... while D-01 is only A or B not sure...
Michelin PP2, BS RE001 is a bit hard but if you SEG is on stock then it should not be a problem for you... i had PP2 installed to my SEG 2 set already...
Hankook V12 u get all those u wan... but it's Hydroplaning is not that good that day i went back from KLIA to USJ at ELITE... raining quite heavy and i drive around 120km/h it loose to PP2 in hydroplaning but it's cornerning and also braking ability is good also... and the best is it only cost RM190 in Klang Valley... while PP2 cost around RM240, Toyo T1R around RM260 (not that sure) and lastly the most expensive RE001 is around RM300
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Formula D-01 is on A rating.. hows D01 rated on hardness/sidewall stiffness compared to PP2 BS RE001 and hankook?....

SEG stock kayaba back and tokico front
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ok... well side wall hardness i duno as i never use Dunlop and BS b4... i only stick to Michelin PP2 for 3 years at least when i put 15" on my SEG... i can say PP2 harder side wall will give you superb handling and also god hydroplaning, since your absorber is quite soft i assume it suits the car...
while Hankook V12 which i install on my vios after 2 set of PP2, my summary is PP2 will give you harder ride while V12 gives u comfort and gripping at cornering, but the downside is the ability of hydroplaning and the handling which PP2 strong at... it is your choice to choose which one u wan...
but the traction of all those tire for sure is better than D-01...
RE001 i heard it is a bit on the hard side like PP2 or slightly harder...
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got chance to try dunlop D01 where just installed in my mom's car.....well..i can say its good for normal driving and slight average cornering.....but once you break the traction, the tire screeches and whole car understeer badly...and i tested the same stretch where i use my PP2 to corner but different car..la... D01 definitely suitable for normal driving, slightly hard still ok but if trash it then rclxub.gif ......quiet tire also.... rclxms.gif
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that y i said nvr intend to buy BS MY-01 and Dunlop D-01... scary... got some ppl even tell me... this is good good tires... sweat.gif they really duno how good is it until they use UHP tires...

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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:14 PM)
that y i said nvr intend to buy BS MY-01 and Dunlop D-01... scary... got some ppl even tell me... this is good good tires... sweat.gif they really duno how good is it until they use UHP tires...
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haha...yeah...when u corner on D01 okok..but if u become wild abit..then habis...screeching sound suddenly appear and understeer.... sweat.gif ....but for old people is ok..la.... brows.gif .....PP2 is still my choice...not really noisy also... tongue.gif
its a good tire for normal people...best bang buck for not bad tire for daily driving... and both of my parents prefer dunlop and say its good tire... blush.gif

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yea... compare to others UHP tires it is quite quiet and also among the best Hydroplaning tire... V12's can compare to it when u say traction and braking performance but Hydroplaning lose to it... really shock when i felt skidding a bit during quite heavy rain on highway... only 110 ~120 km/h nothing compare to previously when i'm using PP2 usually it can go up to 140~150km/h
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anyone has feedback on Federal?

i switched out my PP2 today to Federal 195/55/R15 595EVO tires. so far seems quiet but would love to hear comments about the handling in wet weather.
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so far no much ppl used... am waiting for feedbacks also... smile.gif
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QUOTE(ihawk98 @ Nov 5 2009, 01:49 PM)
anyone has feedback on Federal?

i switched out my PP2 today to Federal 195/55/R15 595EVO tires.  so far seems quiet but would love to hear comments about the handling in wet weather.
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How much price you get the federal tires. Tomorrow I'll be changing my tires. Looking for v12 but your tyre size matches my tyre too so if price is ok i;ll consider it too.
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:05 PM)
How much price you get the federal tires. Tomorrow I'll be changing my tires. Looking for v12 but your tyre size matches my tyre too so if price is ok i;ll consider it too.
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got it at RM225 per piece with the valve and alignment, balancing all thrown in of course.

after driving for the first few hours, i can say that these tires are quieter than the PP2. very smooth ride and cornering grip is nice. i guess this is not a surprise considering that the threadwear rating is only 240. haven't had a chance to test it in the rain yet though.
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new tires all like that one... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(fazron80 @ Nov 5 2009, 08:05 PM)
How much price you get the federal tires. Tomorrow I'll be changing my tires. Looking for v12 but your tyre size matches my tyre too so if price is ok i;ll consider it too.
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bro nice to see u try out 595evo tire...
last week i was coming back from outstation ... that day the sky was very dark in day time ... dry time i was doing 100~110/kmh then when almost reach senawang area the rain fall was very heavy ... i reduce speed ... slow traffic ...

when road clear ... start to push increase speed ... doing 130/kmh.. when saw got some water clog at the fast lane ... try to run over it ... when approach the steering pull abit then it grip back in the road ... #dont try on deep water clog# some things bad may happen...

after that less and less water clog then i continue push and push ... in front of me was a red persona... high beam him to move off but fail then very close tail gate him till he was scare off ... then he move off... i continue push .. average was doing 150~170kmh ... grip was good ... then there was a car accident on the road ... slow down then tire grip was ok too dint feel slide even apply medium brake force ...

when coming to nilai ~ KLIA corner ... normally in dry road was doing 140~150/kmh... that corner was wet that time ... rain too .. that time i slow down abit and taking that corner 120/kmh ... it slide during entering then i start to push in the corner feel some G-force ... it grip well too... wet road all the time stay away white & yellow line...

wet/rain test drive on 595Evo ... becarefull when driving in the rain...
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if deep water clog even pp2 anr re001 will slide abit...NEVER EVER TRY TO RUN OVER WATER CLOG
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U have the best tires in the world but still shit can happen, so be careful always
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@loong... yea Dunlop D01... cannot push ... push either get wild understear or wild overstear... no control... not subtle and controllable.... but to get to to do either is also quite hard....hav to really drive rough... under rain conditions... almost similar but easier 2 push it and lose control.... its a bit hard... quite quiet for an old tire... plus not to mention bang for the buck!

Loong and michael ......i wonder how pp2 sound and harshness and wet driving is compared to dunlop???

@michael... hmm v12 hydroplaning not as good as PP2? i m considering v12 now after reading some of ur comments.... hmmm

i jus wonder how v12 is compared to dunlop..... any comparison on dunlop formula D01 ... hankook v12 and pp2?
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taq...given mark based on my experience...RE001=80%...PP2=80%...Toyo T1R 80%...Dunlop D01=40%

u get my point?..

Hankook v12 70% vs pp2 80%

pp2 win all over for performance...
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if deep water clog even pp2 anr re001 will slide abit...NEVER EVER TRY TO RUN OVER WATER CLOG
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yes i agree DONT RUN OVER WATER CLOG...

Raining season now ... dont push your luck till the edge ...
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QUOTE(TaQ @ Nov 6 2009, 12:10 PM)
@loong... yea Dunlop D01... cannot push ... push either get wild understear or wild overstear... no control... not subtle and controllable.... but to get to to do either is also quite hard....hav to really drive rough...  under rain conditions... almost similar but easier 2 push it and lose control.... its a bit hard... quite quiet for an old tire... plus not to mention bang for the buck!

Loong and michael ......i wonder how pp2 sound and harshness and wet driving is compared to dunlop???

@michael... hmm v12 hydroplaning not as good as PP2? i m considering v12 now after reading some of ur comments.... hmmm

i jus wonder how v12 is compared to dunlop..... any comparison on dunlop formula D01 ... hankook v12 and pp2?
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hmmm...pp2 noise not that bad either & its much harsher than dunlop d01.....but the steering feedback is good and when you corner dont feel any softness/bodyroll on PP2.....but for dunlop D01 on the other hand, its a value for money quiet tires...but the tires only run about 1k++ which fitted on my mom's car recently.....in terms of harshness, i think, D01 not bad and less harsh than PP2 but taking corners i can definitely feel the softness of the tire...and when its being corner hard, it dosent give any squeaking sound frm the tire...unless it looses control only will squeek.... laugh.gif
based on my opinion....PP2 is harsher than D01...but it is being tested frm the two different cars that will not proof a solid feedback since the suspension,nvh all different....
but for those who want a affordable tires D01 is great choice to grab...heck even my friends uses D01 as their new tire replacement.....and only one of my friend uses PP2 on honda city.....others were goodyear,silverstone & etc
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for tires....never TRIED never KNOW!

depend how much is ur budget...

they r many catagories normal/sport/HP/UHP/extreme/semi-slick tires

i think the review from tirerack is not back!
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@nestun tirerack?

@leong are ypu sure body roll with d01? mine's flat biggrin.gif and what do you mean 1k++; price? and also may i know what car did you try on pp2 and wat car on d01? thx biggrin.gif

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currently using Hankook V8RS 165/50/15 on my kelisa.

previously using Falken ST115.


ST115 is so much better. the hankook is good....but cant compare with the falken in dry or wet....especially in wet. the ST115 feels like the road is dry even when its raining. really good tires for wet weather....and hell of alot more quiet too. sux that its out of production for other sizes already though



anyway...curious to know... after the D01 feedbacks... i wonder how these tires compare to Silverstone Evol8?


EDIT: typo

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@oly opts i jus saw ur reply for me.... as i was reading the newest feedback... =.= anyway ....

when you say performance... u mean?

all over aka dry win wet win, less sound and more comfort? or under which category does the performance fall under?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 5 2009, 12:19 PM)
yea... compare to others UHP tires it is quite quiet and also among the best Hydroplaning tire... V12's can compare to it when u say traction and braking performance but Hydroplaning lose to it... really shock when i felt skidding a bit during quite heavy rain on highway... only 110 ~120 km/h nothing compare to previously when i'm using PP2 usually it can go up to 140~150km/h
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QUOTE(TaQ @ Nov 6 2009, 05:35 PM)
@oly opts i jus saw ur reply for me.... as i was reading the newest feedback... =.= anyway ....

when you say performance... u mean?

all over aka dry win wet win, less sound and more comfort? or under which category does the performance fall under?
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dry win,wet win,less sound and less comfort...where got performance and comfort under one package...tongue.gif
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if anyone of you guys ever come across on Yokohama Avid H4S 205/55/r15, just let me know ya... icon_rolleyes.gif
kinda hard to get a tyre of this size... sweat.gif

btw, any comment on the dunlop direzza d101? hmm.gif

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DZ101?..or D101?..

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QUOTE(Oly @ Nov 7 2009, 11:37 AM)
DZ101?..or D101?..
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oppps! typo error. dz101 as in direzza thumbup.gif seems like they have it in 205/55/r15...
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Advice needed..
When i swapped the rear tyre to front, 1 of the old GY tyre have some "wind" sound, the shop said this is due to the absorber problem at rear...and the new tyre I put in rear now should have no warranty due to the absorber problem....
Feel like kena con...
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check ur absorber is there any leakage or not is yes then absorber problem cause uneven wear maybe... ppl tends to give wrong info even mechanics they just wanna do more business some times...
and u should always put new tires at the back not front... that is the standard procedure advised by most of the tires companies...

BTW have you buy ur tires??? actually V12 is still ok, sure 1 tires have its pro and cons... just like the V12 and PP2... PP2 handling better at higher speed and the Hydroplaning is good good even after 50% wear... but V12 give you more grip on the corners and also provide you with a lil more comfort... and further more V12 is directional tires which is a lil more noisier than PP2 which are in Assy pattern...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 6 2009, 04:46 PM)
currently using Hankook V8RS 165/50/15 on my kelisa.

previously using Falken ST115.
ST115 is so much better. the hankook is good....but cant compare with the falken in dry or wet....especially in wet. the ST115 feels like the road is dry even when its raining. really good tires for wet weather....and hell of alot more quiet too. sux that its out of production for other sizes already though
anyway...curious to know... after the D01 feedbacks... i wonder how these tires compare to Silverstone Evol8?
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ST115 i heard is pretty good.. V8RS cannot compare lo... hehe.. smile.gif
Silverstone never used b4... but saw a lot ppl using it also... i think is on par with D-01 or slightly better kua... what is your size...???
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 9 2009, 09:13 AM)
check ur absorber is there any leakage or not is yes then absorber problem cause uneven wear maybe... ppl tends to give wrong info even mechanics they just wanna do more business some times...
and u should always put new tires at the back not front... that is the standard procedure advised by most of the tires companies...

BTW have you buy ur tires??? actually V12 is still ok, sure 1 tires have its pro and cons... just like the V12 and PP2... PP2 handling better at higher speed and the Hydroplaning is good good even after 50% wear... but V12 give you more grip on the corners and also provide you with a lil more comfort... and further more V12 is directional tires which is a lil more noisier than PP2 which are in Assy pattern...
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Hi Micheal,
Thx for the advice, there is no leaking on my rear absorber....but feel that the "spring" is too soft, as mentioned, always have sound when passenger come in and out...

Ya, I have purchased 2 new tire (Yokohama C drive 195/55 R15), RM195 each including everything (+alignment). and I put the new tire at the back.

Ya, I believe the V12 is good...since I believed every tire have it limitation...

Advice? given a 2008 WW27 new PP2 (RM210 each), and V12 (dunno where can find and what price now)...which one you choose?

And, is there any different compare current Michelin Energy vs. the pld PP2?

Thx.
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that is good price... Energy is entry level tires la... PP2 will work better and it is UHP tires... cannot compare...
bro wanna ask what is ur ride... see if it is (PP2) suitable for your ride or not... coz it has harder side wall hence the comfort level will suffer a lot if you have hard suspension setup... it will be nice to fit on Vios (both gen) coz it will improve the handling, but for Dugong the body roll still there coz the softer suspension setup... but it still depends on individual preference lo... whether is hard to soft...
C Drive is like Primacy LC quite ok but give us feedback after usage around 40%...
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michelin primacy lc or pp2.....im going to change it all on dec...very licin on highway,when bad weather...
my ride is latio sport....215/45/17....(65%highway 35%city) so....soft or hard tyre i need??

both are expenciv...= =
so...must survey ....any1 help me....thanks

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that size try GY F1 Assy... good one there... smile.gif around PP2 price also but a lil comfort than PP2
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 10 2009, 09:54 AM)
that is good price... Energy is entry level tires la... PP2 will work better and it is UHP tires... cannot compare...
bro wanna ask what is ur ride... see if it is (PP2) suitable for your ride or not... coz it has harder side wall hence the comfort level will suffer a lot if you have hard suspension setup... it will be nice to fit on Vios (both gen) coz it will improve the handling, but for Dugong the body roll still there coz the softer suspension setup... but it still depends on individual preference lo... whether is hard to soft...
C Drive is like Primacy LC quite ok but give us feedback after usage around 40%...
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Thx....my worry is the 2008-26 for the PP2, isn't it too old (1.5yrs)..
my ride..normal loh..usually 80 to 110km/hr..when possible..
my Vios, '06, is the original suspension...feel that is too soft..
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not even 1.5 yrs yet la... around there... ours Vios is not that soft la... wait until u drive Dugong... my Vios '05 also stock condition..
for the Manufacturing date still ok as PP2 will last max 40k km only... if you really use it 1.5 yrs gone already so about 3 yrs only... tires life is not more than 4~5 yrs so it should be ok for you but check it the new tire mark is still there or not... it has red line on top of the thread... RM210 is consider cheap, is it in Klang? last time i ask RM220~230 leh... now better...
if you wanna fix on your Vios the ride still bearable but u can feel u really go up and down the hump/bump. and also small strip also u can know it... coz it's side wall is hard good for spirited drive and high speed drives... but cornering during wet careful a bit... it will not loose it traction easily but still it is not as grippy as directional tires during corners...

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QUOTE(SK_C @ Nov 11 2009, 08:36 AM)
Thx....my worry is the 2008-26 for the PP2, isn't it too old (1.5yrs)..
my ride..normal loh..usually 80 to 110km/hr..when possible..
my Vios, '06, is the original suspension...feel that is too soft..
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if u wan purely for comfort then u can get d latest primacy LC which is available in 195/50-15[old vios b4 facelift] n 195/55-15[facelift vios] n it's slightly cheaper than PP2
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how much is the price for toyo t1r for 15" ?
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GY f1 asy...uhp tyre??noisy??
izit good on wet?
michilin plc better?
@@!!!sakit kepala...some say plc some say pp2..some say GY f1 asy ...
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QUOTE(rabbit3773 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:36 PM)
GY f1 asy...uhp tyre??noisy??
izit good on wet?
michilin plc better?
@@!!!sakit kepala...some say plc some say pp2..some say GY f1 asy  ...
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i just bought eagle f1 asy 235/40r18 and 245/45r18 for my z. so far dry really good. i speed 188kmh in putrajaya, hit a bump at a corner ( long sweeper of course ), and my car goes dangdut, screech a bit then back on rails, without VDC. great tyres thumbup.gif recommended. cheaper than my old potenza too.
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QUOTE(Shawnzz @ Nov 11 2009, 06:36 PM)
how much is the price for toyo t1r for 15" ?
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er... around RM260~280 if not mistalen...

QUOTE(rabbit3773 @ Nov 11 2009, 09:36 PM)
GY f1 asy...uhp tyre??noisy??
izit good on wet?
michilin plc better?
@@!!!sakit kepala...some say plc some say pp2..some say GY f1 asy  ...
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Michelin la... Primacy LC not PLC or we call it LC... is a comfort tire which is not suitable for aggressive drive or high speed manoeuvrings and it is comfort, means it has softer side wall... GY F1 Assy is not UHP is Extreme tires but u get almost everything on that... ample of grip in dry and wet and it is surprisingly quiet for a low profile tires...
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may i ask how much does it cost for 195/55/15 for goodyear F1 Assy?
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there is not such size... smile.gif 17" and above...
for ur size u have Hankook V12, Michelin PP2, Yokohama AD08, Yokohama S Drive, Federal 595 Evo, Toyo T1R, BS Adrenalin RE001... for performance
Toyo DRB, Falken 912, Michelin Primacy LC, Yokohama C Drive for comfort...

ur choice... the price is around RM170 up to RM300, but Yokohama top range tire AD08 will cost you more than RM350 for ur size...
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sigh manufacturers keeping the good stuff from small wheel users sad.gif
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haha no choice... smile.gif but AD08 is good and pricey...
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okok...thanks..sifu....
i check the price....gy f1 asy 215 4517 RM425 include balancing aligment +credit card charged...now still the same?
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 12 2009, 01:56 PM)
haha no choice... smile.gif but AD08 is good and pricey...
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Hi Michael9413, by any chance you would know the price for this tyre (185/60/15)? Care 2 share ur experince of AD08....Noob here icon_question.gif

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AD08 = KING!

the steering respon r quicker...
u can go in corner very accurately...even with original satria neo suspension(my customer)...

in japan...AD08 r much more famous compare with RE11 BS...
1 of the japan salesman told me!
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QUOTE(nestum @ Nov 13 2009, 10:20 PM)
AD08 = KING!

the steering respon r quicker...
u can go in corner very accurately...even with original satria neo suspension(my customer)...

in japan...AD08 r much more famous compare with RE11 BS...
1 of the japan salesman told me!
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u're really keng~
not even tested d tire already said very good cuz of d salesman told u~ notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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guys, any comment on the dunlop direzza dz101?
am currently looking at this one cuz it's available in 205/55/15.

thanks!
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QUOTE(nestum @ Nov 13 2009, 09:20 PM)
AD08 = KING!

the steering respon r quicker...
u can go in corner very accurately...even with original satria neo suspension(my customer)...

in japan...AD08 r much more famous compare with RE11 BS...
1 of the japan salesman told me!
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AD08 is very good tire but the price is over price i think to have same performance Kumho Ecsta XS KU36 perform and respond as good as AD08 and also half the price thumbup.gif
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but many complaint ad08 not that durable tire like ad07...
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QUOTE(JimboXE @ Nov 12 2009, 03:03 PM)
Hi Michael9413, by any chance you would know the price for this tyre (185/60/15)? Care 2 share ur experince of AD08....Noob here icon_question.gif

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Sorry did not use AD08 b4 coz i know i don like harsh ride that the tire will give me... extreme tires will have hard sidewall to give operation knife sharp kind of precision... 185/60 R15??? change to 195/55 R15 if you wan more grip and also performance tire... what is your ride???

QUOTE(yngwie @ Nov 15 2009, 06:03 PM)
guys, any comment on the dunlop direzza dz101?
am currently looking at this one cuz it's available in 205/55/15.

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Dz101 is ok ok kua have not use it b4 but according to review not bad... can't comment much on that
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I haven't even tried AD07 be4 also.....
No moolah~~best also BFGoodrich Gsport nia sad.gif
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[quote=michael9413,Nov 16 2009, 10:00 AM]
Sorry did not use AD08 b4 coz i know i don like harsh ride that the tire will give me... extreme tires will have hard sidewall to give operation knife sharp kind of precision... 185/60 R15??? change to 195/55 R15 if you wan more grip and also performance tire... what is your ride???

I'm drivin a Nissan Sentra 1.6 XE (N16)....Still using standard tyre 185/60 R15 Goodyear NCT 5....a bit of thread noise. Anything much quieter & slightly better grip plus comfort will do....of coz not too expensive ..hehe... blush.gif

By d way what is 195...55.... as R15 means 15 inch right? rclxub.gif

Thanks Michael... biggrin.gif
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u can try falken 912 made in thailand...195/55/15...195 is the tire width...55 is the tire thick percent from the tire width...eg 55% of 195...15 is the rim size...
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Any of you guys here know which shop carries 185/55/14 tyres?
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QUOTE(Oly @ Nov 16 2009, 03:23 PM)
u can try falken 912 made in thailand...195/55/15...195 is the tire width...55 is the tire thick percent from the tire width...eg 55% of 195...15 is the rim size...
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Yup....I've heard bout it many times.....I am still pondering hmm.gif as I wish to take d Goodyear NCT 5 as a benchmark...I appreciate your enlightenment on the 195....thing....infomative....

Cheers! icon_rolleyes.gif
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Falken 912 is better than GY NCT5... NCT for me is killer tires... i can kill u any time... the traction of the tire makes me throw it away after 50% of usage...
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QUOTE(michael9413 @ Nov 16 2009, 06:29 PM)
Falken 912 is better than GY NCT5... NCT for me is killer tires... i can kill u any time... the traction of the tire makes me throw it away after 50% of usage...
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in terms of comfort,low noise of cuz 912 is better than nct5
but nct5 is better than 912 in terms of performance n durability
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Wow I didn't know NCT5 is better then Falken 912

and is MY01 better than the 2 of the above? All along in my mind, NCT5 is crap, MY01 is crap, never bother about Falken 912

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u sure nct5 better than ze912?..ohmy.gif



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