V8RS is old model isn't it... now new model is evo V12


PP2 for 195/55 R15 is less than RM250 only... if you are looking for that size... y not try out Hankook V12...
I changed from PP2 to V12... feel softer side wall hence more comfort drive also...
is just like Handling PP2 better...
but in terms of comfort is V12 better...
traction both also very good indeed

so far no ppl bought that...
maybe economy downturn kua...

so far in AW forum 1 guy bought it or asked the price...

235/40/R18
Toyo DRB - rm 650 ( yet to neqot ) Hup Shun, SS3 (may2009)

This post has been edited by michael9413: Jun 17 2009, 10:32 AM

well V12 i bought at Klang only cost around the Falken price that he mention... RM180...
so i think he can afford tat...

my size on the vios is V12 195/55 R15... RM180...
some place cheaper also...

comment on wat???

Potenza i haven use b4...
i only can say Michelin PP2 is a good tire on Hydroplanning and Handling...good braking performance also...
ride comfort suffer a bit as the side wall is a lil on hard side... traction also good on dry n wet...
whereas the Hankook V12 is on comfort side which the handling not as good as PP2 in high speed...
traction on both dry n wet also comparable to PP2, so as the braking...

bro ceo684, NCT5 you dare to do hard corner... haha... good luck...
careful when it is raining... even drizzling...

PP2 will give you the confidence coz of the harder side wall compare to NCT5...
it give u good handling and it will grip well on heavy rains also... don fool by the traditional pattern on a UHP tire...

PP2 is not means rich man tire... if u use 17" rim sure rich... good tire will cost u a bomb...
haha... of course u will see a lot of "nice" tire fitted on the 17" rim... especially Ah Beng car...

haha... well you know lo... ppl wanna buy cheaper stuff mah...
there is demand and so there is a chance for those brand to survive...
ppl don really know mah until they really use once good/well known tires then they will feel it...

well Federal i heard is model 535 ar... not that bad...
but of course there is some pros and cons...
Hankook V12 also not that bad... but Noise is a bit louder than PP2 at new...
well depends lo... as long as it provides me good grip in wet and dry...
but like NCT5 which is very poor in Hydroplanning...
which is F**king dangerous... especially you always drive more than 80km/h and also ppl whom always traveling up and down slopes and hills...

Pilot Preceda 2 which is the lowest in Pilot Range... don get cheated by its thread look... it is pretty good...

225/45/R18
Michelin PP2 - RM770
Falken ZE 912 RM575 at Continental sungai besi hi-way near U-turn (Date ???)
Bridgestone Potenza RE050 (Japan) - RM960.00 - CN TWO SERVICES Ulu Klang (24/3/2009)
Michelin PP2 - RM690, Goodyear Jalan Tiong hua, Kluang April 09


hmmm... y T1R b4 PP2??? i asked some of the shops b4... they said side thread wore off quite fast for that...
have not try that... PP2 thread wear ok la... around 35k km... you have to rotate it every 3 month or so...
it lasted me around 1yr and 3 months... i did around 30k km... i drove to SG 3 times and KL-Ipoh-Penang monthly...
A Drive R1(Performance only) cannot compare with that 2 different Categories... PP2 and T1R is UHP...

BTW i live at Kelana Jaya that time... do U-turn a lot... so wearing on the left must monitor...

Falken 912... haha... not that bad lo as said by some AW Forummer...
it is not UHP tires... gripping is not fantastic like UHP and extreme tires...
if you want comfort and low profile then this is one of it...

well but if you really go for Extreme tires do not expect the grip in the wet will be good...
driving at 80km/h during heavy downpour consider dangerous

well see what is your size... if you are using 55 series... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
good for comfort + a bit if performance tire... but a bit noisy la...

we it depends what you wan... what is the speed you normally drives...
My dad XM1 is good for him... no need others woh...
me i feel that PP2 is best of me... handling in both dry and wet... and good aquaplaning...

hehe... all my dad's car is fitted with Michelin... even his KE70 which recently change back to Sime...
my family and i nag him about that... coz old old car still use Michelin which cost RM130/pc...
Vios - Hankook V12... previously 1.5 set PP2 after the stock NCT5
Avanza - After Stock straight Michelin XM1
SEG - After stock all the while Michelin XM1 till now 15" PP2...
VW - Continental i change that wanna try out Conti CC1 vs Mich XM1...
KE70 - Michelin after he bought back... then recently changed to Sime...

so all the while is prefer to use Michelin coz soft and good amount of grip for normal + occasionally aggressive driving...
all my record which i had done during my 17~20 yo time are Michelin XM1 13"... hehe...

This post has been edited by michael9413: Aug 12 2009, 11:34 AM

haha... better u go for Michelin PP2 then... after safety mark it still grip when i drive it during raining...
of course i'll not drive more than 100km/h if the tire wears until that stage la...

federal some good feedback from the AW forummers also...
duno about the real gripping after 50%... but PP2 serve me well on that...
you really can use until the wear indicator safety mark... i use more than that actually...

yea... the price is a bit steep... i used in total 3 set already...
but the quality did not disappointed...

aiya... trunk road you must not use extreme tires more dangerous...
light drizzling also dangerous... but all tires purchase is very personal indeed...

bro NCT Family very bad la... don buy that... most of the GY lower family is not good...
the top range family is good... like GY Eagle F1 & F1 Assy... that is different story...
if you wan to have comfort and you are using 55 series for R15 and above... you can give Hankook V12 a try...
it is directional thread and you have to bear with the noise as is it louder than PP2 if both in NEW...
otherwise it's grip nearly on par with PP2 in Dry and Wet condition... aquaplaning is around 90% if PP2...
price wise it is quite cheap indeed if i compare my size 195/55 R15 the difference is RM50... so quite ok lo...

I just change CC1 onto VW golf 1.6l... not bad in general but i got know that the tires sometimes will have problem...
it is side wall become uneven (bulge) if you hit a lot of potholes... so careful lo...
as i'm not driving this car long distance so it is ok...

Yes Hankook, it is like Falken 912 in price range but better in handling and also it is directional thread... RM185 for 195/55 R15...
not bad in term of performance vs price ration as PP2 at that size will cost you around RM240...
you can try Primacy LC also from Michelin as the price range is around RM210...
Hankook is cheapest but the cons is directional thread tends to creates more vocal than 2 of the Michelin PP2 and Primacy LC...
Michelin have the good reputation in my heart as this Hankook V12 set that i'm using is the 1st set out of Michelin...
It give me good confidence to corners until now in dry and wet also... not hard cornering... around 80km/h kua...
PP2 give me more confidence indeed on handling and cornering... Aquaplaning also it is the best in the UHP range...
trust me... PP2 will give you all they have even you reach the safety marks...
My SEG PP2 once pass the safety mark i still drive around even heavy rains...
although not pass 80km/h but it still give you the grip...

not sure... but there are still stock...
what i mean is the GY lower range tire is not good for driving...
for slow slow driving ok... but like city driving is not alrite... coz our cruising speed is quite fast...
it does not give you the gripping that you need during you brake hard...

nope it depends...

Falken 912 still very quiet compares to Hankook V12... coz it is soft tire not UHP...
Yokohama depends which you get... A drive and C drive is also same cat. with 912...
but not S drive... it give you good vocal... haha...
Michelin XM1 and Primacy LC is a quiet tires and give you decent amount of grip...
Primacy LC is new launched... the target is Luxury Passenger cat...
Toyota Vios??? 185/60 R15??? you can switch to 195/60 R15 or 195/55 R15...
if you want quiet tires i recommend to you to get 195/60 R15...
on that size you can get Yokies A/C drive, Mich XM1/Primacy LC, Falken 912 and Conti Premium Contact...
Mich, Yokies & Conti is abit higher in price while Falken is lowest...
what is your driving style? What is your driving criteria...
Comfort, Noise, Handling???

Noise is important hence you will not get really performance tire...
but PP2 noise is quite decent compare to Hankook V12 and Yokohama S Drive...
which both noise is slightly higher... Hankook has softer side wall towards comfort...
while Yokohama S drive has harder side wall...
when you saw the thread don get cheated by PP2 traditional design...
it gives you good amount of grip in Dry and Wet...
last but not least it has it best aquaplaning performance in UHP categories...