This will be Edifier Fan Club Version 4! Thanks to all of your support.

Continued from the previous topic, Edifier Fan Club V3.
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/388274

Fans of Edifier speaker systems.

Discuss it out here and be proud of what you have.

This post has been edited by shockk: Oct 29 2008, 06:24 PM

Who posted in: Edifier Fan Club V3

Congra on Edifier V4...always proud to be the owner of Edifier products...

Just came back from Lowyat, auditioned the S530D, S730D and S550 at 3 places: Edifier shop @ Level 4, All IT & Sri Computer.

S530D: I don't have any bad comment about this speaker, definitely a speaker that i want to replace my 'missing' C3. The satellites produce a very very good mids and highs. Crystal clear sound, very detail. The subwoofer produce thigh bass which is far better than my C3.

S730D: This speaker is very huge and the subwoofer produce very very good bass suitable for those who have a big/medium room. This one is not for me considering my room is small room i think will be a waste of such good speaker performance to be used in a small room. And i auditioned this speaker at All IT & Sri Computer. Donno why when i test this speaker at SrI Computer, i feel that the clarity lose out to S530D when playing the same sound.. Actually if S750 is arround i will definitely buy that speaker just because the 5.1 surround channel. But i think twice, better slowly upgrade.

what's the difference of 2.1 & 5.1?
i dont quite catch though

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Added on October 29, 2008, 9:03 pmi mean.. what is it about? ^^

This post has been edited by samsoong: Oct 29 2008, 09:03 PM

The Fine Art of Listening

Purchasing a new sound system, or even upgrading an existing one can be a daunting task. The following hints and tips we use at the Edifier Research & Development Facility may well prove useful for you to consider.

I have several stages for you. Firstly, try to establish your budget. From here, one can then start to look at your musical tastes, choice of movie soundtracks, and also gaming needs. Bear in mind, that the choice loudspeakers will affect the sound quality more than any other component in your system. With this in mind, try to purchase the best speakers you can if they are not in a pre-packaged system.

Next, comes shopping at the store you have chosen. Try to pick a quiet time of the day so you can listen in a more relaxed atmosphere. It is always a good idea to bring along a few of your favorite CDs and DVDs for reference. Try listening to a few systems in your price range, or if you are shopping for loudspeakers, choose no more than three brands and models. This will make your final decision easier after extensive auditioning.

Now you have a good idea of what your needs are for your new purchase or upgrade. Next, I am going to suggest the critical listening stage and what to listen for. All of the following topics are important, and are in no particular order.

Detail

The human voice is always a good test for this category. How convincing does the male or female singer sound? Can you hear breath, texture, and realism? Make sure the voice is clear of chestiness, nasality, and sibilance. Musical instruments should sound very defined and embody as many elements of a live or studio performance as possible. Remember, that bright sounding speakers may sound exciting at first, but can become quite tiring after a few hours of listening.

Bass Punch & Slam

These sonic characteristics tend to apply only to speaker systems that have either satellites and subwoofers, or that are of a larger size, for example, medium sized bookshelf and floor standing models. Pinpointing punch and slam refers to the rhythmic force which you feel as much as you hear, for example, in a kick drum or tympani. These attributes are a good guide of speaker power and transducer quality.

Overall Timing

This term describes the accuracy of the musical notes embedded within the recording. A good loudspeaker system should be able to communicate the rhythms within the music scores with high precision and tautness. As a result, you may well find that unknowingly, your hand or foot may have been tapping to time of the beat.

Imaging

A rather complex issue regarding phase and time, a fine system will convey the placement of voices, instruments, and sound effects, in front of and between your speakers. In the case of higher end loudspeaker systems with wide dispersion, you will find that the stereo image will extend past the far left and far right of the enclosures. If you close your eyes, you should be able to sense the atmosphere of the recording, and feel you are actually there at the performance.

Ambience

The ambience, together with imaging, will provide you with acoustical clues as to where the recording was made. For example, if you hear a rather spacious echo from a recording of say a sizeable Orchestra, the chances are it was performed in a large Symphony Hall. The best loudspeaker systems are also capable of reproducing the “air” around the voices and instruments within a recording. This attribute further enhances the realism of detail and spaciousness.

Now that you have purchased or upgraded your sound system, I have a few hints that can make your listening experience all the more enjoyable.

Try to set up your sound system for the best possible chance of success. Try to keep your speakers away from corners and sidewalls to avoid standing waves and unwanted room resonances.

Find the most comfortable chair or couch you can, and place it midpoint between the speakers. If possible, try to listen 6 – 8 feet away, if your speakers are about 5 – 6 feet apart. These distances will give you fine imaging and depth.

Try relaxing and listening to the music or movie soundtrack, and not to the sound system itself. You may find after 10 minutes or so, that you are completely immersed in the performance.

If you follow the above advice, you may well find that music that was once used for just background enjoyment, has now become your primary source of entertainment.

Happy Listening!

Peter Duminy Director of Research & Engineering
Edifier International Inc.
All Rights Reserved

This post has been edited by Edifier: Oct 29 2008, 11:02 PM


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Hey, I'm not sure if its okay to post these here, but i've got a few questions to ask. Noob in speakers here.

First off, i've bought a M3300SF today. I've seen alot of good reviews on it but I don't see much people having it. Was it a bad choice?

Secondly, what's the difference between M3300 and M3300SF?

Thirdly, is it normal to hear a loud crack every time i on my subwoofer?

Fourthly, when i plug in my headphone into the jack, there is still sound coming out from my main speakers. Why's that?

Yup that's all. Sorry for asking too much but as far as I've used it (the whole day), the speakers are awesome! Thanks in advance!

Anyone know where to buy the remote control for M3300 as mine already spoilt as one side got sound and another have no sound. Thanks alot.

Yeah, last time when i bought my S530D i also have the same consideration. S730D definately have a more powerful satellite and woofer. But in term of sound clarity, i think is quite the same.

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This post has been edited by Edifier: Oct 30 2008, 10:21 AM

Bro, 2.1 speaker has 2 satelites speaker and 1 subwoofer.

5.1 speaker has 5 sattelites. 2 front. 2 rear and 1 center. And 1 subwoofer.

Consider the 0.1 as subwoofer. the rest are sattelites.

oh...thank you thank you

Yes! I also amaze on S530D performance

Wah lao eh... shockk really NBTD aaa... compile that list of who posted... dont know spend how many nights there...

Anyway,
Im still waiting for Edifier to release a brand new hi-def series speaker. Edifier gonna stop after S2000? Not gonna released an updated version aa? At least release another update S3000 la. 100w, 1" tweeter 6.5" midbass. Add a sub if can, then even if RM1.5k also quite worth it. My S2000 already 2 years and most likely will last another 2-3yrs before the rubber start giving away.

my M2300 also like that. so, i think it's designed that way.

1. Don worry bro..coz it is quite new in the market (around 2 months old only compare to m3300 3 years old)
2. More or less the same. Only the appearance of the satellite are different. Becoz previously, some users feels that m3300 sound too bright, therefore Edifier engineer tune the m3300sf' satellite abit to suit different ppl taste.
3. Yes. It is common for most of the multimedia speakers.
4. This is to prevent the user to un-plug the earphone accidentally, if volume too loud it may spoil the speakers

Hope my reply can clear some of ur questions. Enjoy ur speaker.

Thanks alot man. I feel more relieved now. I thought mah speakers were already spoilt after i bought it. haha. But about the 4th answer, anyway to mute the main speakers completely while listening to your headphones? If its impossible, then its okay.

the M3300 remote control is designed that way, so that when u plug in headphone, u need to press the mute button to mute the speaker. without this feature, some user sometimes "shock" when they plugged out their headset because of louder sound from speaker. now u know why got the mute button right there in the remote.

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Oo. alright gotcha! thanks alot guys! so far the speakers had been working great! Well undergo further inspection

at edifier showroom can buy the remote control ~~~lowyat 4th 33&33A Edifier

Good news to iPod User - new Edifier iF500 availabe in Malaysia next week



if500 support iPhone and ipod



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The Picture of the 5 speaker at iF500 - 2 tweeter, 2 mid and 1 sub



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I compare it site by site with the B&W Zeppelin, the sq is better than the Zeppelin and also cheaper than the zeppelin

This post has been edited by Edifier: Nov 1 2008, 04:22 PM

Well, that is a great news for iPod users!

Now there is a minor "facelift" for the Edifier MP300.
Another news for laptop user:

Edifier MP300 PLUS







Edifier MP300





Based from source, MP300 Plus has improved spec from MP300.
I personally can't wait to listen it "live"

The MP300+ sq is far better than the MP300

Yeeha! I'm currently listening to my S530D now

Still in the process of burning in and finding the perfect placement of the speakers. But the sound is just great. The Tracy Chapman song - Baby Can I Hold You sound is very clear crystal. Next song i wanna test out is some of the Fourplay songs and Acoustic Alchemy songs :

Will try out some of BD movies tomorrow, now i can't boom boom my baby. People wanna sleep.

edit: But my new Creative X-Fi USB 5.1 surround is giving me problem. The sound is out of sync when watching movies. Will update the driver now, see what'll happen.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 6 2008, 02:47 AM

you bought for how much?

RM670.. my friend's staff purchase now the issue is solved already. No more out of sync after upgraded the driver..

Hello all...i am a new member here
i have been using my m3300 since 3 years ago...
recently i wanna upgrade to a better edifier
can anyone compare s330 and r1900tIII for me pls ??
100% usage for music ONLY...haha...

or any other better suggestion
bugget around rm400...thx all!!
and i don't want c3 it seems more suitable for movie and gamers right?


p/s:im looking for 2nd hand s330 or r1900tIII or even aego m.do kindly pm me thx~

This post has been edited by tommysasuke: Nov 6 2008, 12:36 PM

S530D users report in...
use it around 6months aredy...
but match with original sound card @.@
dunno buy which sound card should be better

Bro, i was using C3 for around half a year already. And i listen to music mostly. C3 is capable to produce sharp and clear sound from the sats, The sub also not bad, just that not enough power (RMS) that's all..

do u ever try out s330 and r1900tIII? whats the different with ur c3?

I never compared them together but i kow r=that the C3 is good. But r1900tIII is a bookshelf speaker right? I think it's good for music.. Try ask Edifier..

R1900TIII 2.0 speaker most nice for music ~~
S330 suitable for gaming music and movie very nice sq with solic bass ~
so get more media with S330
if don like sub just only music R1900 win ~~

If you are serious music listener, try out Asus Xonar D2X. But make sure you use analog connection rather than optical cause it sounds better.

i am newbie...
i am using digital connection now...
if using optical hv to buy new cable?

the S530D selling how much in lowyat now?

S530D RM759 @ All IT

hi all
s530d user here

Welcome to the club... Hope you enjoy your S530d

To tommysasuke,
I will recommend S330, Sounds perfect for vocal, intrumental sound... S330 bass is solid and the satelite is very special.. different tweeter and mid..

yes i think i will go for s330 too ...however i hope can get second hand if possible since im almost graduate zzzz...
anyway juz for curiousity, how is r1900t3 compared to m3300? any significant improvement?
i never use 2.0 speaker before

how about da5000? ^^

Da5000 is surround sound means 5 sattelite with 1 subwoofer.. The mid is rich and totally balance, clear sound..

R1900t3 soundstage is totally better than M3300.. For M3300 sounds balance in movie, gaming , music..

proud S330 user here!

Guys, i have a question. If i use the optical digital cable, can my speaker produce better sound compared to the normal jack cable?

If you use an optical digital cable (or coax) you will be using the DAC (digital to analogue converter) in your speakers (as I'm currently doing now with my S730's from my motherboard). If you use the normal jack cable, you will be using the DAC from either your sound card/motherboard/mp3 player or whatever and sending the analogue signal to the speakers.

The DAC converts digital signals (1's and 0's) into an analogue signal (waves). Mind you, you can easily spend thousands of $USD on quality DAC's.

Try both, let your ears decide.

If i use the optical cable means, my X-Fi USB will be useless then?

So which one is better actually in your opinion? The DAC in my speaker or in my X-FI?

And which one is producing better sound for your speaker?

so it is worth to upgrade to r1900t3 from m3300 right...
how about if compare r1900t3 to s330 anyone??
really wanna know how big the different
recently got no time to go for audition

m3300 is not bad in term of clarity, but i think the soundstage cant fulfill my ears...
and the sound is a bit too "thin"
i want a richer and thicker sound...

depend ur own taste lo,if u like to have some bass when it is necessary,choose a speaker tat has subwoofer,u can try S330.the tweeter of S330 perform very good treble and good bass.It uses The wave ripples silk tweeter can effectively reduce the high-speed diaphragm distortion caused by vibration, produce some unique treble compare to dome tweeter.M3300 is good at budget around RM230,if u have the budget,S330 is more recomended at RM400+-.

This post has been edited by xk2: Nov 9 2008, 12:48 PM

do u mean da5000 is meant for music & movie only?

u wan 'gaming' ? usually speaker that produce good sound in movie will perform good in gaming oso

maxizanc, I'm currently using onboard audio to my S730's. I've got a used Audigy 2 ZS coming to me in the mail. I'll also be testing the coaxial (digital) and the analogue outputs and just seeing for myself which one is better. I 'believe' there was minimal difference between my motherboard's analogue and digital. It sounded 'cleaner' to me via digital.

I'll let you know sometime next week if you like.

One other thing is that the quality of your analogue cable could also be a determining factor. A digital cable will either work or not work (ie. on or off) whereas an analogue cable has the potential to 'lose' information. So don't ever get conned into spending more money on a 'brand name' digital cable over another one. Analogue cables... there is a difference between crap and quality.

Which speakers do you have maxizanc?

I have S530D. Still new (4 days). And i really satisfy with the sound. That's why i wanna try using the optical cable, to test which one can provide better sound quality.. Thanks so much for the info and i really appreciate your simple and understandable answer.. My new optical cable will be coming tonight!

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 9 2008, 09:48 PM

how much u buy the cable ?

I ask my friend to buy. RM28? Is sit ok? Don't mind if it is a cap ayam one . Just for a beginner like me.. Is there any difference anyway?

Hii, just join here.
Was i has Edi C2 and now S330D. It is worth or not if i change it with C3.

And how about S530/D

Just wait for the seniors to answer your question bro. I never compared the C2 with C3 before but i know C3 is very good considering its price is only RM300++

S530D is far better. S530D is the mama of the 2.1 speakers. S730D is the papa

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 10 2008, 02:31 PM

From S330D to C3 worth or not ?

From S330D to S530D, it very worth, right.

Hi maxizanc, like I said before, there are no 'crap' digital cables or good ones. It will either work or it will not work. If it works, you know your sound quality get any better, no matter how much you spend on the cable. I would personally go for the cheapest one of the required length. Analogue cables are where quality matters.

:-)

From S330 to C3,not worth.it is something like downgrade.
From s330 TO S530d,worth.

but..why dun u straight buy S530D at the time u buy S330 ?

This post has been edited by xk2: Nov 10 2008, 04:29 PM

Thanks. Because that time only have money that enough for S330D .

i still prefer those custom made cable over the optical cable...i had try on the philips optical cable on my S530D b4, what i feel is the sound become louder only but the details is not there...but this just mainly my opinion only la, maybe u will like the performance of the optical cable....

anyway, wait til u fully burn in the speaker and u wil be more surprise of it's performance...

This post has been edited by skyliner66: Nov 10 2008, 06:11 PM

Where can i got those?

Ya lor, my speaker is only 5 days breaking in..

u can get it at garage sale there...but the price not cheap la...1m cost RM95...but believe me, u get what u paid for...

Oooh! No. Let me get the basic one. Suitable for a beginner like me.

But am planning to buy S750D in the future. Slowly building my HTPC..

@JustCallMeBob - Thanks again for the answer!

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 10 2008, 06:50 PM

the S550 performance is already superb to me...i never turn my S550 more than vol 25...reason it's too loud and i afraid will disturb the others...can't imagine how the S750 will sounds...

Just tested my fren's S530D few miniutes ago,the sounds obviously improved if compare to the time when he jus bought it ,which is 3 months ago. keep burn in guys

oh? ok ok... thanks for the info ^^

Nice advice. BTW anyone knows who selling the digital optical cable here? Can give me the link? Than you!

using S530d.. jz change to monster cable, grab frm my dad's old sound system... gonna chg those rca to 3.5mm plug to a better ones too.. hopefully da sound wil b nicer.. =)

long time din see u in forum,i tot u disappear oredi u still using the JBL satelites ?

I got myself M3300 and i modded the volume control cable to cat5e, sounds better but sometime just got humming noise

anyone of you did modding?

p/s: sorry for my pics, its taken by phone

This post has been edited by Cosef: Nov 11 2008, 10:51 PM

Jbl satellites??

steve tried to use his home JBL speaker as the satelites on his S530D last time.

This post has been edited by xk2: Nov 12 2008, 12:19 AM


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There are some differences when i'm using the Toslink for my S530D. The sound is louder and wider. Good, now i learnt something from my own experience. Pardon me for my noobiness, LOL.

This post has been edited by maxizanc: Nov 12 2008, 12:58 AM

How's the sound compare to the original satelites?

How about Edifier DA5000 5.1 speaker? is it classified as home theater speaker?

Just wait for the arrival of 5.1 digital speaker, S750D. Papa of 5.1 speaker. It has digital input, so u can use it with DVD or BD player.

Wow bro how u do it. Can recommend me place to do it . Im situated at KL. Thanks alot

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Eh is DIY one....
the plugs were found at pasar road one....
Cat5e I was bought it at pc shop, you can try find it at other places.

The pinout i tested myself, but so far i didn't found anything wrong. Hmm...is it ok to post it here??

This post has been edited by Cosef: Nov 12 2008, 11:56 AM

Wow cool mate. can teach me how to DIY as mine got problem with left speaker which is caused by wire. Wanted to do rewiring as its chepear than buying a new one. Thanks alot mate

i'll provide the pinout which i found myself.... for serial port and the 6 pin port.

hope you can understand it.

Erm the volume control quite hard to dismantle, the clips are at sideway and below the logo, have to becareful.
Carefully find a place which can solder the wire and on the circuit. Note that theres a black colour wire beside the 6 pin port is connected to GND.
As far as i know it needs 7 wires only...

Happy modding~

Hi there guys, just bought a S330 last week.




quite surprise with the performance despite its small size, the sound quality it produce is almost the same as my S530D..sweet

Thanks man. Will try going to Jalan Pasar to buy some electronic stuff for the weekend. Thanks again mate

Can someone (possibly an Edifier representative) please give me specifications (make/model) on the DAC used in the Edifier S730's?

Thanks

The s730 using CS8416 chip, a 192 kHz Digital Audio Receiver

another S330 user volt,share more ur experience here,i believe many ppl wan to know the ''value'' from S330 to S530D.