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TSWTF2008
post Mar 1 2019, 11:34 AM, updated 7y ago

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Hi All,

Have a quick question on self contribution for EPF.

I came thru across below statement in EPF portal. Does that mean if we want to deposit in money to EPF to earn the dividend. Max per year we only can put in 60k?

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Payment Limit

1. No minimum amount (only in Ringgit); AND
2. Maximum of RM60,000 yearly effective January 2013.

The accumulated maximum limit for Self Contribution, the i-Saraan (previously known as the SP1M) and Top Up Savings Contribution is RM60,000 yearly.

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post Mar 1 2019, 11:38 AM

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QUOTE(WTF2008 @ Mar 1 2019, 11:34 AM)
Hi All,

Have a quick question on self contribution for EPF.

I came thru across below statement in EPF portal. Does that mean if we want to deposit in money to EPF to earn the dividend. Max per year we only can put in 60k?

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Payment Limit

  1. No minimum amount (only in Ringgit); AND
  2. Maximum of RM60,000 yearly effective January 2013.

The accumulated maximum limit for Self Contribution, the i-Saraan (previously known as the SP1M) and Top Up Savings Contribution is RM60,000 yearly.

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This is i-Saraan is meant for those who currently don't have EPF especially freelancer and work on themselves.
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post Mar 1 2019, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 1 2019, 11:38 AM)
This is i-Saraan is meant for those who currently don't have EPF especially freelancer and work on themselves.
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Ahh ok, how about for those already have epf account with age over than 60 . Can they deposit in the money at their EPF account to earn the dividend?

If yes, is there any limit transaction per year? Or any else limitation.

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post Mar 1 2019, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(WTF2008 @ Mar 1 2019, 11:46 AM)
Ahh ok, how about for those already have epf account with age over than 60 . Can they deposit in the money at their EPF account to earn the dividend?

If yes, is there any limit transaction per year? Or any else limitation.

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Yes. max RM60K/Year
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post Mar 1 2019, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(helob @ Mar 1 2019, 11:53 AM)
Yes. max RM60K/Year
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So 60k per year regardless any amount in the EPF account itself right?

How the payment made? At the office itself with bank cheque? Or there is online transfer method?
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post Mar 1 2019, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(WTF2008 @ Mar 1 2019, 11:55 AM)
So 60k per year regardless any amount in the EPF account itself right?

How the payment made? At the office itself with bank cheque? Or there is online transfer method?
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can roughly base on this for maybank m2u...

http://www.misterleaf.com/9782/epf-self-contribution-online/

or this

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4437785/all

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post Mar 1 2019, 12:29 PM

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Till 75 yo, above that no more divident given to the all the money u got inside.
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post Mar 1 2019, 01:57 PM

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I think there is no age limit for the epf contributor to receive the dividen now.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 1 2019, 12:29 PM)
Till 75 yo, above that no more divident given to the all the money u got inside.
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True or not? dont simply say la fren...why should EPF chase $$$$$$$$ from its pocket ???

I did additional contrib fr CIMBclick on 25.2.2019 9.00am, reflected in KWSP online dated 26.2.2019 . 1 day lapse quite good.
easy and convenient unlike the hassle of ASX captcha.

curious if exceeded RM60k what happened to excess- no dividend?
money returned to bank?

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post Mar 1 2019, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 1 2019, 02:10 PM)
True or not? dont simply say la fren...why should EPF chase $$$$$$$$ from its pocket ???

I did additional contrib fr CIMBclick on 25.2.2019 9.00am, reflected in KWSP online dated 26.2.2019 . 1 day lapse quite good.
easy and convenient unlike the hassle of ASX captcha.

curious if exceeded RM60k what happened to excess- no dividend?
money returned to bank?
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No dividend given I believe.
Money sure won't return to the bank! laugh.gif
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post Mar 1 2019, 02:17 PM

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If you self contribute, can this be withdraw anytime or still have to wait 55 years old?
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QUOTE(aaronooiengsiang @ Mar 1 2019, 02:17 PM)
If you self contribute, can this be withdraw anytime or still have to wait 55 years old?
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Should be still subjected to withdrawal condition.
That's the purpose of government offered that to those who don't have EPF.
Otherwise if can simply withdraw, it'll defeat the purpose right?
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QUOTE(aaronooiengsiang @ Mar 1 2019, 02:17 PM)
If you self contribute, can this be withdraw anytime or still have to wait 55 years old?
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sure cannot withdraw la,
masuk anytime, keluar ada syarat.
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post Mar 1 2019, 06:14 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Mar 1 2019, 02:10 PM)
True or not? dont simply say la fren...why should EPF chase $$$$$$$$ from its pocket ???

I did additional contrib fr CIMBclick on 25.2.2019 9.00am, reflected in KWSP online dated 26.2.2019 . 1 day lapse quite good.
easy and convenient unlike the hassle of ASX captcha.

curious if exceeded RM60k what happened to excess- no dividend?
money returned to bank?
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True or not my friend u can verify with kwsp. The info from kwsp officer unless he is wrong la. There r just too many kwsp money without nominees, so many pass away. For those 75 yo and above, they allow u to keep ur money in, n put some more, but no give u divident liao. As long as u happy and can live longer no harm u wanna keep inside one. But problem when some kwsp owner pass away, that is the real headache since they have to handle the money properly. Malaysian median age of life span is around 78 for female n around 74 for male.
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QUOTE(Zhik @ Mar 1 2019, 06:14 PM)
True or not my friend u can verify with kwsp. The info from kwsp officer unless he is wrong la. There r just too many kwsp money without nominees, so many pass away. For those 75 yo and above, they allow u to keep ur money in, n put some more, but no give u divident liao. As long as u happy and can live longer no harm u wanna keep inside one. But problem when some kwsp owner pass away, that is the real headache since they have to handle the money properly. Malaysian median age of life span is around 78 for female n around 74 for male.
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EPF would not pay any dividend for all our money in there when we reach 75yrs old?
then sure must remove all out.......EPF chase old people away.......


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post Mar 1 2019, 07:35 PM

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EPF PAYS DIVIDEND UP TO AGE 100

The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) wishes to clarify that an old statement about EPF dividend payment until age 75, which is circulating primarily on WhatsApp as well as on other social media platforms is no longer applicable as it is outdated.


http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._19.07.2017.pdf

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post Mar 1 2019, 09:22 PM

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Just curious. If you are retired (at any age) and no longer work and don't earn any income, can you still do self-contribution to EPF (subject to the maximum of RM 60k).

Source of fund could be from FD interest or kids giving pocket money.
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Hi. I have a question.

My ma got EPF account but she had fully withdrew all the money from the account many years ago

Is the account still active?
Can I monthly contribute to the account and how can I do that?
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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 1 2019, 09:22 PM)
Just curious. If you are retired (at any age) and no longer work and don't earn any income, can you still do self-contribution to EPF (subject to the maximum of RM 60k).

Source of fund could be from FD interest or kids giving pocket money.
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Can. If get questioned, make sure can justify source of money.

QUOTE(RyuGW90 @ Mar 3 2019, 08:57 PM)
Hi. I have a question.

My ma got EPF account but she had fully withdrew all the money from the account many years ago

Is the account still active?
Can I monthly contribute to the account and how can I do that?
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Call EPF and ask if account still active. Make sure nomination is what she wants also.

Maybank2u can. Other banks I haven't explore.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 1 2019, 07:35 PM)
EPF PAYS DIVIDEND UP TO AGE 100

The Employees Provident Fund (EPF) wishes to clarify that an old statement about EPF dividend payment until age 75, which is circulating primarily on WhatsApp as well as on other social media platforms is no longer applicable as it is outdated.


http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10..._19.07.2017.pdf
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Thanks for the heads up.
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post Mar 6 2019, 11:08 AM

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I self contribution my epf through maybank2u yesterday.

Today it's still not shown the amount in kwsp online.

May I know when will it shown in my kwsp online? Thanks
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QUOTE(donhay @ Mar 6 2019, 11:08 AM)
I self contribution my epf through maybank2u yesterday.

Today it's still not shown the amount in kwsp online.

May I know when will it shown in my kwsp online? Thanks
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just wait for a day or 2 laaa..
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for self contribution
- can use CIMB and MBB
- enjoy dividend rate as usual

VS.


for I-Saraan/I-Suri
- only via MBB and Public Bank, others bank do not have this selection
- enjoy dividend rate as usual
- addition government incentives

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/contribution/i-saraan
Opted to contribute under i-Saraan
As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions.

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/insentif-suri
Housewives who are registered in the National Database on Poverty (eKasih) as of 30 Nov 2018
Receive government contribution of RM200* in 2018, and RM480 per annum in the subsequent year.
Must contribute a minimum of RM5 per month or RM60 per annum into your EPF account.
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Hi all.

I would like to confirm if students can invest in EPF for their retirement needs in the future.

I phoned EPF this morning and asked if a student (now 20 years old) who is about to enter university can open an EPF account and begin investing.

The EPF customer service representative said that I can begin investing in EPF now, even though I don't have a job.

I am afraid that sounds too good to be true, so I would like to seek confirmation here.

Anyone here begin investing in EPF when they are students who are not yet working?
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QUOTE(Nicholas Kang @ May 21 2019, 11:10 AM)
Hi all.

I would like to confirm if students can invest in EPF for their retirement needs in the future.

I phoned EPF this morning and asked if a student (now 20 years old) who is about to enter university can open an EPF account and begin investing.

The EPF customer service representative said that I can begin investing in EPF now, even though I don't have a job.

I am afraid that sounds too good to be true, so I would like to seek confirmation here.

Anyone here begin investing in EPF when they are students who are not yet working?
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Yes I think you can , just go open an account with them, normally an employer opens it for you but I would put it somewhere where is more liquid in case you need the money in the future. Not sure if can withdraw till 55 .



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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ May 21 2019, 11:38 AM)
Yes I think you can , just go open an account with them, normally an employer opens it for you but I would put it somewhere where is more liquid in case you need the money in the future. Not sure if can withdraw till 55 .
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Hi Krv23490. Hope everything is going well for you.

Thanks for the info. I opened my EPF account this morning. There is a nice retirement advisory service provided at my Seberang Jaya branch here.

The i-Saraan scheme is quite attractive, highly recommended for housewife, self-employed, and students alike. You pay any amount you like at anytime and the government will subsidize 11% up to a maximum of RM 250 per year.

Withdrawal is possible before 55. You can withdraw 30% of your EPF (i.e. Account 2) at the age of 50 and for housing, medical and education payments at any age. Link: http://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals

(Nice new webpage!)

You are right that there is liquidity risk but since we are saving for retirement, it does not contradict our (should be "my") goals here. A well-diversified investment portfolio should already have included other more liquid investment vehicles.

Just an off-topic question: Is it true that EPF is linked to the 1MDB scandal or had EPF invest in any "suspicious" companies before? Not that I don't trust the board of directors. I never heard any issues with PNB, but various rumours are out there. Not sure who to believe in.

Thanks.
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QUOTE(Nicholas Kang @ May 24 2019, 01:36 PM)
Hi Krv23490. Hope everything is going well for you.

Thanks for the info. I opened my EPF account this morning. There is a nice retirement advisory service provided at my Seberang Jaya branch here.

The i-Saraan scheme is quite attractive, highly recommended for housewife, self-employed, and students alike. You pay any amount you like at anytime and the government will subsidize 11% up to a maximum of RM 250 per year.

Withdrawal is possible before 55. You can withdraw 30% of your EPF (i.e. Account 2) at the age of 50 and for housing, medical and education payments at any age. Link: http://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals

(Nice new webpage!)

You are right that there is liquidity risk but since we are saving for retirement, it does not contradict our (should be "my") goals here. A well-diversified investment portfolio should already have included other more liquid investment vehicles.

Just an off-topic question: Is it true that EPF is linked to the 1MDB scandal or had EPF invest in any "suspicious" companies before? Not that I don't trust the board of directors. I never heard any issues with PNB, but various rumours are out there. Not sure who to believe in.

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Ah yes. 15% up to a maximum of RM 250.

The advisor didn't mention that the scheme will end in 2022 though. Thanks for the info. I wished that will continue forever...
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For voluntary contribution, can we decide which account we want to channel it to or it will still be proportion to 70:30?
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jun 30 2019, 11:05 AM)
For voluntary contribution, can we decide which account we want to channel it to or it will still be proportion to 70:30?
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looking at how the form is structured....looks like there is "no place" for us to them how we want the allocation to be...
but has this stated......
Amaun bayaran akan dikreditkan ke Akaun 1 ahli
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20126/147...dXfJvEj0LcYe2uL

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QUOTE(donhay @ Mar 6 2019, 12:08 PM)
I self contribution my epf through maybank2u yesterday.

Today it's still not shown the amount in kwsp online.

May I know when will it shown in my kwsp online? Thanks
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It takes 2 working days at the least.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jun 30 2019, 11:05 AM)
For voluntary contribution, can we decide which account we want to channel it to or it will still be proportion to 70:30?
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Distributed in ratio of 7:3


QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 30 2019, 02:18 PM)
It takes 2 working days at the least.
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That’s right. Just tried - 2 working days exactly.
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What is the maximum amount that can be transferred per transaction ? Can transfer RM60K one shot ? Since the annual limit for self cuntribution is 60K...
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 30 2019, 05:24 PM)
What is the maximum amount that can be transferred per transaction ? Can transfer RM60K one shot ? Since the annual limit for self cuntribution is 60K...
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they can contribute any amount to the retirement savings fund, the accumulated maximum amount to be contributed into each account, however, remains capped at RM60,000 per annum.

Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...5G2e7eqrTyiq.99

just don't over the RM60k max per calendar year.....
read in LYN....they will refund all the money from the latest contribution.....
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 30 2019, 05:24 PM)
What is the maximum amount that can be transferred per transaction ? Can transfer RM60K one shot ? Since the annual limit for self cuntribution is 60K...
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it depends on your bank. Most have a 50k limit like how you transfer money to other accounts, though I didn't explore extensively.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Jun 30 2019, 11:05 AM)
For voluntary contribution, can we decide which account we want to channel it to or it will still be proportion to 70:30?
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self contribution will appear in employee column and it will proportion to 70:30.
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QUOTE(Krv23490 @ May 21 2019, 11:38 AM)
Yes I think you can , just go open an account with them, normally an employer opens it for you but I would put it somewhere where is more liquid in case you need the money in the future. Not sure if can withdraw till 55 .
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If you have more than RM1 million in your EPF, you can withdraw the excess.
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...rm1mill-savings
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beLIEve,
1.)I want counting the date and time of i-Akaun appear money, because the appear mean below
if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.
Above I right or not?

2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02.
You self do a counting?
You have above situation or not?
I don't know where my wrong, so can use explain why like that?
Above look like not above rounding, I use .00 or .0000 also same, I just curios why like that only?
Thank you.
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beLIEve...knock, knock, you are summoned for, i believe the above post is for you too and are afraid you may missed it too.
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Jul 16 2019, 01:45 PM)
beLIEve,
1.)I want counting the date and time of i-Akaun appear money, because the appear mean below
if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.
Above I right or not?

2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02.
You self do a counting?
You have above situation or not?
I don't know where my wrong, so can use explain why like that?
Above look like not above rounding, I use .00 or .0000 also same, I just curios why like that only?
Thank you.
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- if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
No

- if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
Yes

- if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.
yes

- You self do a counting?
No. in EPF i trust/believe

- You have above situation or not?
No
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jul 16 2019, 03:02 PM)
- if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
No

- if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
Yes

- if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.
yes

- You self do a counting?
No. in EPF i trust/believe

- You have above situation or not?
No
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Thank you for your reply, so no brain ask again, I worry not clear.
That's mean want before 1 Feb 2020 saw the i-Akaun amount appear, that mean safe date is 31 Jan 2020 or before 31 Jan 2020 saw the i-Akaun amount appear, if the 1 Feb 2020 saw ready too late.

I need counting 3 days more, that's mean 25 Jan 2020 bank in, then make sure 31 Jan 2020 saw the amount in i-Akaun, I can assumed the Feb and all months enjoy interest?

Thank you for your wrote above before, if not saw your wrote, I though the EPF counting dairy no need full month also can, now thank you for your reply too.
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Jul 16 2019, 03:11 PM)
Thank you for your reply, so no brain ask again, I worry not clear.
That's mean want before 1 Feb 2020 saw the i-Akaun amount appear, that mean safe date is 31 Jan 2020 or before 31 Jan 2020 saw the i-Akaun amount appear, if the 1 Feb 2020 saw ready too late.

I need counting 3 days more, that's mean 25 Jan 2020 bank in, then make sure 31 Jan 2020 saw the amount in i-Akaun, I can assumed the Feb and all months enjoy interest?

Thank you for your wrote above before, if not saw your wrote, I though the EPF counting dairy no need full month also can, now thank you for your reply too.
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yes
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QUOTE(zapster79 @ Jul 16 2019, 08:16 AM)
If you have more than RM1 million in your EPF, you can withdraw the excess.
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...rm1mill-savings
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I read the excess amount can withdraw anytime. However, does is restricted to account 2 only?
Let say I have 1.5m.
In 70:30
1.05m and 0.45m

Meaning I can withdraw 500k or 450k?
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 16 2019, 09:26 PM)
I read the excess amount can withdraw anytime. However, does is restricted to account 2 only?
Let say I have 1.5m.
In 70:30
1.05m and 0.45m

Meaning I can withdraw 500k or 450k?
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500k

U can take from account 1 if account 2 is insufficient.
Also min withdrawal is 50k

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Below is my own experience.

if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.

- self contribution via bank on 1/3/2018. appear in EPF account in 2/3/2018. Dividend for Mar2018 till Dec2018. This year will try bank in say 27/28 of the month, to try out the dividend calculation.


2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02.
You self do a counting?

- yes, I do my own calculation. if total +/- 5 sen, I take it correct. unless you manual key in after the calculation like rm123.456, you re-key into the worksheet as rm123.46. then, it should be okay.


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Yes, that's correct.

Regarding the minimum withdrawal, it used to be minimum RM50K once per quarter, but it appears they have removed that requirement. It now states as follows:

What You Can Withdraw
Any Amount, Any Time in excess of RM 1 million in savings
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Thanks neverfap and zapster.

One more question, can I know how to make contribution into epf? I'm using cimb but couldn't find it. And is it we need to contribute under self contribution? I just wan to put inside like normal epf..not those what unit trust what fund
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 17 2019, 11:36 AM)
Thanks neverfap and zapster.

One more question, can I know how to make contribution into epf? I'm using cimb but couldn't find it. And is it we need to contribute under self contribution? I just wan to put inside like normal epf..not those what unit trust what fund
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try under payment option?

my PBB online was under that option....then select self contribution tab

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Thank you for answer.

1.)I also test, but I thought you better counting 3 days, because I find LOWYAT preview post, the KWSP reply the forumer answer is 3 days. One day I can't and you want remember 3 days fall on business day or not, so if ok give 5 days, better lose whole month interest if you put big sum. Others about EPF you should self check to consider your situation.

2.)Others start balance and ??? amount monthly I still not learn and try how to count, so I don't know. Below this example very simply, just start balance and without monthly, so just use the amount * day/day * interest * 100 like that. Another way is use start balance counting every month, the results is same, but when compared with EPF result each account less RM 0.02. I find Internet post, if I not wrong 2008 year some also have this question. Another Internet counting have example shown EPF give more cents. They wrote rounding problem, but feeling weird.

I guess not rounding problem, maybe the EPF member pass away, the help RM 2500, so depend the yearly situation, if many apply less RM 0.02, less apply less RM 0.01, use this support? but EPF news wrote this RM 2500 is EPF money and EPF want give help, if nobody apply also give back all EPF member, so I don't know.

Ok is ok, just for math only, don't know how to count, if counting wrong, this is mean I no brain don't know how to count can assumed wrong count. Math or account want match result. My count not same result of true EPF result, so not beauty count page shown, so if all counting also each account +- RM 0.02, so maybe I'll give up find above answer and follow EPF result then thought how to beauty count page. Beauty the count page just for hobby like that.
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Yes, that's correct.

Regarding the minimum withdrawal, it used to be minimum RM50K once per quarter, but it appears they have removed that requirement. It now states as follows:

What You Can Withdraw
Any Amount, Any Time in excess of RM 1 million in savings
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Thats great news. If any contributor has excess of RM 1 million in EPF, then its better to dump in extra cash into it and earn better interest rates than putting it into regular FDs. In case of emergency usage, can withdraw anytime with no fuss.
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Some told me that a salaried employee unable to contribute, is that true because I never try it.

My friends who contributed are housewife and businessman..but I'm just a normal employee, can i contribute up to 60k like those self employed and enjoy dividend as usual?
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I checked EPF website. It stated for salaried person can only increase the contribution %, please advise. Thanks
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 18 2019, 10:03 PM)
Some told me that a salaried employee unable to contribute, is that true because I never try it.

My friends who contributed are housewife and businessman..but I'm just a normal employee, can i contribute up to 60k like those self employed and enjoy dividend as usual?
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many people had mentioned they had done that self contribution, but if you are doubtful can try the this option
Simpanan Tambahan KWSP
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/ms/member/contribut...gs-contribution

QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 19 2019, 10:09 AM)
I checked EPF website. It stated for salaried person can only increase the contribution %, please advise. Thanks
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do you have online banking?
if YES, try goto payment option to see if your online banking portal has that option for self contribution or not.
some one mentioned that his PBE online has that option.

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 18 2019, 10:03 PM)
Some told me that a salaried employee unable to contribute, is that true because I never try it.

My friends who contributed are housewife and businessman..but I'm just a normal employee, can i contribute up to 60k like those self employed and enjoy dividend as usual?
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Can, I did it this year. I am salaried employee. Though maybank2u

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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 18 2019, 10:03 PM)
Some told me that a salaried employee unable to contribute, is that true because I never try it.

My friends who contributed are housewife and businessman..but I'm just a normal employee, can i contribute up to 60k like those self employed and enjoy dividend as usual?
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Can contribute upto RM60k regardless of your salaried contribution. I have been doing it for quite a number of years for my account and my wife.

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Can I know is there anyway to contribute without public bank online banking, I dont have pbb account.
I have cimb, hlb and rhb. Cimb has the option to transfer to epf but didn't state that it is self contribution, and I cant find any option to change the limit, it stated max rm5000.

Is that 60k additional savings into epf will earn dividends as usual?
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 19 2019, 10:57 AM)
Can I know is there anyway to contribute without public bank online banking, I dont have pbb account.
I have cimb, hlb and rhb. Cimb has the option to transfer to epf but didn't state that it is self contribution, and I cant find any option to change the limit, it stated max rm5000.

Is that 60k additional savings into epf will earn dividends as usual?
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I don't understand your confusion.

I have CIMB and there is option to transfer to EPF. It's pretty straighforward.
If you're talking about automatic deduction, isn't that done by your employee, not from your own CIMB account?

i just transfer whenever I want from my CIMB account, and it just shows up as self contribution on EPF statement.

>and I cant find any option to change the limit, it stated max rm5000.
Well, I'm not that rich but have you tried breaking it into multiple transactions over time?

>Is that 60k additional savings into epf will earn dividends as usual?
I'm trying not to sound snarky, but the answer is a pretty obvious yes.

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The option for self contribution is intended for those who are self employed but EPF didn't restrict salaried employees from self contributing. If you are doubtful, try to top up a small amount and check your EPF account 2 working days later.

As for maximum contribution via online banking, it's RM5K per transaction. If you want to contribute more, just do multiple transactions. Max is RM60K per year.
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 18 2019, 10:03 PM)
Some told me that a salaried employee unable to contribute, is that true because I never try it.

My friends who contributed are housewife and businessman..but I'm just a normal employee, can i contribute up to 60k like those self employed and enjoy dividend as usual?
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Well you can always try. Not true. Can put in max RM60k/year if you have the cash.

QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 19 2019, 10:09 AM)
I checked EPF website. It stated for salaried person can only increase the contribution %, please advise. Thanks
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See reply above.

QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jul 19 2019, 03:57 PM)
Can I know is there anyway to contribute without public bank online banking, I dont have pbb account.
I have cimb, hlb and rhb. Cimb has the option to transfer to epf but didn't state that it is self contribution, and I cant find any option to change the limit, it stated max rm5000.

Is that 60k additional savings into epf will earn dividends as usual?
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Key in your EPF account no. No need to state self contribution or what. I use maybank so cannot really comment about Cimb, HLB or rhb. Not sure which bank allows self contribute to EPF. Best to check with customer service
1) whether they support self transfer
2) if yes what are the steps.

Just drop them an email.

Whatever money you put into EPF will get dividend.

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1.)One year can RM60K, but I don't know want "your salary + self contribution = RM60K" -> This is want you ask and wrote here told back, if you want share info.

Now you not eligible of self contribution without intensif, so free use what bank, if this bank connect with EPF, so your situation use CIMB no problem. You also can OTC, but some bank will charge you.
If not wrong, only Maybank and Public bank if you self contribution with intensif, others bank only one choice, this is call "self contribution", so when you pay to EPF, then wait 3 days, you check your account, you can saw 70% money in Akaun 1 and 30% in Akaun 2.

You can filled form if for every month your salary want paid more % for your salary, this is not call "self contribution".
If you consider put RM60K, you no want take risk top up more than RM60K per year, so the 1.) you need ask.

Other questions about EPF you can consider self ask.

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QUOTE(magika @ Jul 19 2019, 01:53 PM)
Can contribute upto RM60k regardless of your salaried contribution. I have been doing it for quite a number of years for my account and my wife.
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Means that if a full time salary contributed RM12000 per year to Epf account:

A. then only left RM48000 per year quota for self contribution?

Or

B. Still have RM60k quota for self contribution (exclusive salaried epf contribution)
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QUOTE(dhui @ Jul 20 2019, 06:19 PM)
Means that if a full time salary contributed RM12000 per year to Epf account:

A. then only left RM48000 per year quota for self contribution?

Or

B. Still have RM60k quota for self contribution (exclusive salaried epf contribution)
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while waiting for his responses, I kaypoh abit googled and found this

read at the "PERINGATAN" on the top section of both these forms...

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20126/147...t=1551760897083

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20126/140...f7-b2bb146961f8

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/ms/member/contribut...lf-contribution
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/ms/member/contribut...gs-contribution
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QUOTE(dhui @ Jul 20 2019, 06:19 PM)
Means that if a full time salary contributed RM12000 per year to Epf account:

A. then only left RM48000 per year quota for self contribution?

Or

B. Still have RM60k quota for self contribution (exclusive salaried epf contribution)
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It's your own money. No one is going to question you if you put more inside EPF. If I were you, I will just taruh. At the end of the day I am the one going to withdraw. Not govt. So if they let you put just put and keep quiet about utm

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QUOTE(dhui @ Jul 20 2019, 06:19 PM)
Means that if a full time salary contributed RM12000 per year to Epf account:

A. then only left RM48000 per year quota for self contribution?

Or

B. Still have RM60k quota for self contribution (exclusive salaried epf contribution)
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Excluding salaried kwsp contribution (B)

Use Borang KWSP_ 6A_1 if deposit over the counter for amount RM60k. Internet banking dont need form but restricted each transaction limit

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EPF's interest reward really attractive....compare with saving, FD,insurance
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EPF's interest reward really attractive....compare with saving, FD,insurance
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If you're young at 20's, EPF will lock your money if you do self contribution for 30 years.
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When you are young, its better to invest in an own property instead of dumping any excess cash into the epf. Its hard to get it out in case of need for emergency usage.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Aug 31 2019, 04:14 PM)
When you are young, its better to invest in an own property instead of dumping any excess cash into the epf. Its hard to get it out in case of need for emergency usage.
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This doesn’t sound any wiser than putting into epf.

At least not at a loss. Property doesn’t “release” the fund until it is sold. And in reality, current value is at a loss.
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Ok, do what you think is best.
For me, I’m putting all excess into EPF. When in need, just withdraw. Any amount, anytime 😉
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Hi, anyone can share how does EPF calculates dividend, eg daily interest or based on certain date?

Should I deposit self contribution anyday, month end, or end of the year? Will there be a scenario where the funds I deposit into EPF sitting idle for few days or months and not counted for dividend?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(rooney77 @ Aug 30 2019, 07:53 PM)
EPF's interest reward really attractive....compare with saving, FD,insurance
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Problem is anything can happen in say 20 years.
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QUOTE(wjchay @ Sep 2 2019, 12:03 AM)
Hi, anyone can share how does EPF calculates dividend, eg daily interest or based on certain date?

Should I deposit self contribution anyday, month end, or end of the year? Will there be a scenario where the funds I deposit into EPF sitting idle for few days or months and not counted for dividend?

Thanks.
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https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/how-to-ca...e-epf-dividend/

if you plan to deposit, you need to ensure it's in EPF's record latest on the last day of the month to qualify for the subsequent month's pro-rated dividend.

From experience :
Day 1 - transfer money from bank to EPF
Day 3 - EPF online shows money received on Day 2.

QUOTE(bourse @ Jul 16 2019, 10:12 PM)
Below is my own experience.

if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.

- self contribution via bank on 1/3/2018.  appear in EPF account in 2/3/2018.  Dividend for Mar2018 till Dec2018.  This year will try bank in say 27/28 of the month, to try out the dividend calculation.
2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02.
You self do a counting?

- yes, I do my own calculation. if total  +/- 5 sen, I take it correct.  unless you manual key in after the calculation like rm123.456, you re-key into the worksheet as rm123.46.  then, it should be okay.
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thanks for the tips. was cracking my head how to qualify for the entire year 2020's dividend for self contribution. Still a bit risky though, if i were to bank in on Dec 31. If they treat as this year, will bounce back.

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I made an inquiry with EPF and this is what I got :

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the dividend calculation for the contribution is based on one day for the contribution month.  For example: January 2020 contribution and the payment was made within 1st January 2020 until 31th January 2020, dividend calculation is calculated as one day.

if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute any day in December 2019.

looks like my safest bet is to bank in on Dec 31 because already max out this year's.
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You so talent brain. I worry I not understand, so what you think, I feeling like below. Do you think, I can get and fully understand what you want inform of your situation? Thank you.

Before year 2019 any date you contribute max RM60K in EPF.
Now, you wish fully get 12 months dividend of year 2020, but if in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019 you contribute again RM60K, so total in year 2019 is RM120K.
This is ready broken the EPF rules 1 year cannot max RM60K?

Cause above, now, for safe reason, you plan bank in on 31 Dec 2019, then wait 2 days appeared in I-Akuan, so the date is 2 Jan 2020.
This is mean in year 2019 you not broken the rules, but you can make sure the money appeared in EPF is ready on year 2020, so
a.)You only unable get Jan 2020 whole month dividen, because date fall on 2rd Jan 2020, no 1st Jan 2020.
b.)Also mean in future 01 Jan 2020 - 30 Dec 2020 you unable contribution any money in EPF account.
c.)If you want repeat your step, next year when 31 Dec 2020 you contribution max RM60K again.

Combined all, so for new start and want plan of future is like below?
1.)Must need follow the EPF rules, so if you wish in year 2020 can get whole year 12 months fully dividen, can consider full max the EPF RM60K in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019.
2.)Then year 2019 ready max RM60K, wait till 01 Dec 2020 - 29 Dec 2020 repeat above step and this is for next year 2021...
3.)If you self contribute in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019, above still count in year 2019, so you ready contribute RM60k you can get max RM250 bonus dividen of year 2019, but only no dividen(6%) can get on year 2019, then RM60K dividen start get on year 2020 Jan - end
4.)If you in year 2020 not contribute any money, this is also mean in year 2020 you unable get max RM250 bonus dividen of year 2020, but can get dividen(6%) till end.

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2 is nd, not rd, I wrote wrong.

a.)You only unable get Jan 2020 whole month dividen, because date fall on 2nd Jan 2020, no 1st Jan 2020.
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You so talent brain. I worry I not understand, so what you think, I feeling like below. Do you think, I can get and fully understand what you want inform of your situation? Thank you.

Before year 2019 any date you contribute max RM60K in EPF.
Now, you wish fully get 12 months dividend of year 2020, but if in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019 you contribute again RM60K, so total in year 2019 is RM120K.
This is ready broken the EPF rules 1 year cannot max RM60K?

Cause above, now, for safe reason, you plan bank in on 31 Dec 2019, then wait 2 days appeared in I-Akuan, so the date is 2 Jan 2020.
This is mean in year 2019 you not broken the rules, but you can make sure the money appeared in EPF is ready on year 2020, so
a.)You only unable get Jan 2020 whole month dividen, because date fall on 2rd Jan 2020, no 1st Jan 2020.
b.)Also mean in future 01 Jan 2020 - 30 Dec 2020 you unable contribution any money in EPF account.
c.)If you want repeat your step, next year when 31 Dec 2020 you contribution max RM60K again.

Combined all, so for new start and want plan of future is like below?
1.)Must need follow the EPF rules, so if you wish in year 2020 can get whole year 12 months fully dividen, can consider full max the EPF RM60K in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019.
2.)Then year 2019 ready max RM60K, wait till 01 Dec 2020 - 29 Dec 2020 repeat above step and this is for next year 2021...
3.)If you self contribute in 01 Dec 2019 - 29 Dec 2019, above still count in year 2019, so you ready contribute RM60k you can get max RM250 bonus dividen of year 2019, but only no dividen(6%) can get on year 2019, then RM60K dividen start get on year 2020 Jan - end
4.)If you in year 2020 not contribute any money, this is also mean in year 2020 you unable get max RM250 bonus dividen of year 2020, but can get dividen(6%) till end.

QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 4 2019, 02:22 AM)

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Thank you for your reply. Sorry, my standard like that, I also don't know how, so want you take time read and make me understand.

No matter saving account or others low interest, why you not consider put in EPF on 28 Jan 2020 ?
If you choice the date 31 Dec 2019, then fall on 2 Jan 2020, also cannot get EPF Jan 2020 dividen.
If you choice 30 Dec 2019, maybe fall on 1 Jan 2020(I not sure EPF count the time or not, another reason is I think you risk of broken RM60K rules.)
So, you consider wait 31 Dec 2019 till 28 Jan 2020, at this range date RM60K put in saving account or others still can earn some interest.

The KWSP answers is
"payment was made" within 1st January 2020 until 31th January 2020.
if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute "any day in December 2019".

Above I confuse "payment was made" but still not appear in I-akaun, this is how to count.
"any day in December 2019", this is also meaning the last day 31 also can bank in, the problem still "payment was made" but not appear in I-akaun, how.

(I assumed if all mistake before.)
If "payment was made" no need appear in I-akaun, then "payment was made on 31 Dec 2019" you maybe broken the RM60K rules.

If your situation, I feeling you can consider put on 28 Jan 2020. Why you prefer 30 Dec 2019?
If new start, I get the conclusion is the money in I-akaun want sit on end of the month, this is can first day month with time 00:00 get full month dividen.
(The is depend EPF "payment was made with no need appear in I-akaun" vs "payment was made and need appear in I-akaun", impact bank in on last day of month or early date of month.)
(Honestly, I only ask you, so I believe you, if you never ask KWSP about "vs" question, this is my curious why you not prefer put on any date of Jan 2020? Put on 31 Dec 2019 maybe broken the RM60K rules, no EPF dividen on Jan 2020 too and wait late put on EPF can earn some interest in saving account.)

Yes, I feeling above really aggressive, but near not lost 28 days interest. You sure high than me, can you teach me again? What I wrote you can see where wrong? Thank you.

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No matter saving account or others low interest, why you not consider put in EPF on 28 Jan 2020 ?
QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 5 2019, 11:12 AM)

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you are welcome

end of Jan 2020 is a no brainer, no need to ask anyone.

people need to experiment or ask questions to know the definite answer. it'll be beneficial for future generations, not the pioneers who do the tests.

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Sorry, my bad English and others, I still cannot get. You willing wrote some again. Thank you.

If I'm same shoe, year 2019 max RM60K, then if wish get Year 2020 EPF dividen, the date I'll choice is end of Jan 2020.
Base on 3 reason.
a.)Worry broken RM60K rules
b.)No dividen on Jan 2020
c.)28 days can earn some interest in saving account

Really no brain?
What I wrote, if my situation same, I consider do like above.
OMG, I really very no brain, I unable know above where wrong, can you please like that?

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Guys,
What happen if u already max 60k self contribution and u try to put money in again via maybank2u.

Will we get refunded automatically or there will be an error?
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QUOTE(ywliang96 @ Sep 6 2019, 12:30 AM)
Guys,
What happen if u already max 60k self contribution and u try to put money in again via maybank2u.

Will we get refunded automatically or there will be an error?
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previously, a forummer mentioned that any money in excess of RM60k would be refunded without any interest....
I think Maybank2U would not know the details in your EPF a/c...thus they would not prompt error....
only after kwsp do the accounting then they would know...
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Sep 5 2019, 04:28 PM)
Sorry, my bad English and others, I still cannot get. You willing wrote some again. Thank you.

If I'm same shoe, year 2019 max RM60K, then if wish get Year 2020 EPF dividen, the date I'll choice is end of Jan 2020.
Base on 3 reason.
a.)Worry broken RM60K rules
b.)No dividen on Jan 2020
c.)28 days can earn some interest in saving account

Really no brain?
What I wrote, if my situation same, I consider do like above.
OMG, I really very no brain, I unable know above where wrong, can you please like that?

QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 5 2019, 02:37 PM)

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no brain means if dont want to chop the dividend in Jan, no need go through so much hassle. just deposit at the end of Jan, finish story.

anyway, hadn't have time to update here. EPF got back to me, and in short, if already max out self contribution this year, cannot put in this year, even end of Dec. one can do some tests, but I think I'll just wait for end of Jan 2020 to deposit.
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You really have a care heart, so responsibility and thank you for your reply.

Your QUOTE before
the dividend calculation for the contribution is based on one day for the contribution month. For example: January 2020 contribution and the payment was made within 1st January 2020 until 31th January 2020, dividend calculation is calculated as one day.
if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute any day in December 2019.

I read again, I think above sentences if mean you can contribute in last day(no need wait amount appeared in I-Akuan) also can get next month whole dividen.

I hope I can get accuracy answer, but I try get from you. You confirmed want wait or not?
Thant's mean if you end of Jan 2020 to deposit, the date you'll choice 28 Jan 2020 or 31 Jan 2020?

If last day through online bank pay to EPF no need count transfer time, this is much more easy and sure. You know?
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QUOTE(yourinfohere @ Sep 20 2019, 02:18 AM)
I read again, I think above sentences if mean you can contribute in last day(no need wait amount appeared in I-Akuan) also can get next month whole dividen.

I hope I can get accuracy answer, but I try get from you. You confirmed want wait or not?
Thant's mean if you end of Jan 2020 to deposit, the date you'll choice 28 Jan 2020 or 31 Jan 2020?

If last day through online bank pay to EPF no need count transfer time, this is much more easy and sure. You know?
Thank you.

QUOTE(beLIEve @ Sep 19 2019, 10:26 PM)

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I won't do it last day. I'll do it when my FD matures.

yes they said any time, but I have serious doubt Dec 31 is a good idea.
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How to add our EPF account to "Favorite EPF/KWSP Account" since it able to choose?

Add Favorite Management just allow to manage favorite BANK account, how about KWSP?
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KWSP withdrawal for sub sale unit....
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...a-house#subsale
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Thanks for your help. I wasnt aware that second-hand home is under the sub-sale category.
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Hi guys I apologise if my question was asked before. Im still a student and i have an epf account opened due to internship purpose. I came across with epf i-saraan we can self contribute it, i want to ask if the dividend calculation is same as in epf? Also, is i saraan the only way for self contribution. Thanks alot !
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QUOTE(issac96 @ Sep 25 2019, 12:37 AM)
Hi guys I apologise if my question was asked before. Im still a student and i have an epf account opened due to internship purpose. I came across with epf i-saraan we can self contribute it, i want to ask if the dividend calculation is same as in epf? Also, is i saraan the only way for self contribution. Thanks alot !
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i want to ask if the dividend calculation is same as in epf?
"should" be the same, never heard of different methods of calculation of dividend payment for different method of contribution

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/i-saraan

Also, is i saraan the only way for self contribution.
as the max for any or a combination of any of those voluntary contributing method (Self Contribution, i-Saraan, i-Suri, Top-up Savings Contribution) is still maxed at RM60k effective Jan 2013
thus, can consider this if next time when you are working and contributing to EPF, can seek to contribute a larger % of your income.
this larger % can be way above the minimum statutory employee rate

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...-statutory-rate

just a note,....as highlighted by a forumer recently...
if you are paying taxes, ..... your money to EPF are taxed before being contributed,....and then that money will be locked till 50+ yrs old
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QUOTE(issac96 @ Sep 25 2019, 12:37 AM)
Hi guys I apologise if my question was asked before. Im still a student and i have an epf account opened due to internship purpose. I came across with epf i-saraan we can self contribute it, i want to ask if the dividend calculation is same as in epf? Also, is i saraan the only way for self contribution. Thanks alot !
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If you already have an existing EPF account, you are not eligible to open an i-Saraan account because that account is meant for those who freelance without any official employment.
You can still self-contribute into your regular EPF account. Just go to any EPF kiosk to check your EPF account status. Once your account is opened, it should be with you for life.
Your regular EPF account will still work the same and would still continue providing you with dividends.
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If you already have an existing EPF account, you are not eligible to open an i-Saraan account because that account is meant for those who freelance without any official employment.
You can still self-contribute into your regular EPF account. Just go to any EPF kiosk to check your EPF account status. Once your account is opened, it should be with you for life.
Your regular EPF account will still work the same and would still continue providing you with dividends.
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how do i self contribute to my own account ya? sweat.gif
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how do i self contribute to my own account ya?  sweat.gif
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Can I withdraw EPF account 2 to pay my housing loan ? My house will complete next year April 2020. What are the conditions?
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You serious cannot search Google to solve such a general question?

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...em-housing-loan
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...hly-installment
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/...urchase-a-house

All the info you need is within. Just spend some time to read.
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after noticed Jordy had already responded to you90

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You can do it via online banking. It's convenient to just do a payment into your own EPF account.
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not all banks can do that right ? currently, is maybank is the only option?
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not all banks can do that right ? currently, is maybank is the only option?
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I think Maybank is NOT the only option to do EPF self contribution thru online banking.
could you tell what bank do you want to use to do online banking to do EPF self contribution?
your info will provide the opportunity to forummers that had used that bank to do EPF self contribution to provides they responses.
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I think Maybank is NOT the only option to do EPF self contribution thru online banking.
could you tell what bank do you want to use to do online banking to do EPF self contribution?
your info will provide the opportunity to forummers that had used that bank to do EPF self contribution to provides they responses.
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Hmm, OCBC Bank ? confused.gif
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QUOTE(issac96 @ Sep 28 2019, 03:35 PM)
Hmm, OCBC Bank ?  :confused:
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Maybank, CIMB and Public Bank. Not sure about other banks.
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Regarding the 60k max contribution per year:

If i contribute 60k in October this year,
Do i have to wait till october 2020 to contribute another 60k or can i do it on january 2020?
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QUOTE(INTEGRITYXXXXX @ Oct 3 2019, 06:49 AM)
Regarding the 60k max contribution per year:

If i contribute 60k in October this year,
Do i have to wait till october 2020 to contribute another 60k or can i do it on january 2020?
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read before...it was per calendar year
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Once contribute so much, its hard to take out. Make sure your cashflow needs are sorted out before you do this.
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If i do self contribution, may I claim income tax under PRS Scheme?
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No.
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Regarding the 60k max contribution per year:

If i contribute 60k in October this year,
Do i have to wait till october 2020 to contribute another 60k or can i do it on january 2020?
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January 2020.
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Need to declare income tax if do self contribution... for self employed?
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Need to declare income tax if do self contribution... for self employed?
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if I am not mistaken,...there is a max amount one can put in the tax declaration form for tax relief purposes
btw, self employed can do self contribution but must have an epf a/c first
self employed need to submit tax declaration to LHDN every year too
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Need to declare income tax if do self contribution... for self employed?
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Tax deduction for year 2019:-
EPF 4,000
Life insurance / Takaful 3,000
PRS 3,000
Medical 3,000
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QUOTE(Ewa Wa @ Oct 22 2019, 11:53 AM)
Tax deduction for year 2019:-
EPF 4,000
Life insurance / Takaful  3,000
PRS 3,000
Medical 3,000
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Can I know if saving plan such as Great wealth accumulator can be under PRS for tax rebate? hmm.gif
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Can I know if saving plan such as Great wealth accumulator can be under PRS for tax rebate?  hmm.gif
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is this Great wealth accumulator qualified as a something specifically like this, GE GREAT RETIREMENT PLAN?
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...ement-plan.html

Tax Treatment
6.1 Deduction for deferred annuity premiums paid by an individual

To encourage individuals to add savings for retirement, premiums paid for a deferred annuity are allowed as deductions in computing the chargeable income of an individual resident in Malaysia.
Subsection 49(1D) of the ITA provides that, in the case of an individual resident for the basis year for a year of assessment (YA) who has–
(a) paid premiums for a deferred annuity; or
(b) made or suffered the making of a contribution to a private retirement scheme (PRS),
there shall be allowed for that YA a deduction of the aggregate amount of the payments or contribution or both or a deduction of RM3,000 whichever is the lower.
The deduction is effective for 10 years from YA 2012 until YA 2021.
Note: Prior to the YA 2012 (YA 2010-2011), deduction for a deferred annuity is allowed under paragraph 49(1A)(a) of the ITA subject to the amount of deduction of contribution to the Employees Provident Fund and payment of premium for deferred annuity shall not exceed RM7,000.
more in there.....

http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/PR_4_2014.pdf
as that was a 5 yrs old article, please contact the insurance companies or LHDN for latest updates....

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QUOTE(FutureBuilder @ Oct 23 2019, 01:21 PM)
Can I know if saving plan such as Great wealth accumulator can be under PRS for tax rebate?  hmm.gif
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Great Wealth Accumulator can claim under life column ONLY.

PRS either Unit trust / Annuity (Great Retirement Plan- in Great Eastern).

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Great Wealth Accumulator can claim under life column ONLY.

PRS either Unit trust / Annuity (Great Retirement Plan- in Great Eastern).
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Thanks for confirming, guess my agent give me the false info...
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QUOTE(MUM @ Oct 23 2019, 01:34 PM)
is this Great wealth accumulator qualified as a something specifically like this, GE GREAT RETIREMENT PLAN?
https://www.greateasternlife.com/my/en/pers...ement-plan.html

Tax Treatment
6.1 Deduction for deferred annuity premiums paid by an individual

To encourage individuals to add savings for retirement, premiums paid for a deferred annuity are allowed as deductions in computing the chargeable income of an individual resident in Malaysia. 
Subsection 49(1D) of the ITA provides that, in the case of an individual resident for the basis year for a year of assessment (YA) who has–
(a) paid premiums for a deferred annuity; or   
(b) made or suffered the making of a contribution to a private retirement scheme (PRS),
there shall be allowed for that YA a deduction of the aggregate amount of the payments or contribution or both or a deduction of RM3,000 whichever is the lower.
The deduction is effective for 10 years from YA 2012 until YA 2021.
Note:  Prior to the YA 2012 (YA 2010-2011), deduction for a deferred annuity is allowed under paragraph 49(1A)(a) of the ITA subject to the amount of deduction of contribution to the Employees Provident Fund and payment of premium for deferred annuity shall not exceed RM7,000. 
more in there.....

http://lampiran1.hasil.gov.my/pdf/pdfam/PR_4_2014.pdf
as that was a 5 yrs old article, please contact the insurance companies or LHDN for latest updates....
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Thanks for confirming, guess my agent give me the false info...
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Every year, kindly request for Statement Of Life Assurance Premium Paid (SLAPP) from ur agent or E-connect portal. Through the SLAPP you can report ur tax more accurately which column to fill in.
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Every year, kindly request for Statement Of Life Assurance Premium Paid (SLAPP) from ur agent or E-connect portal. Through the SLAPP you can report ur tax more accurately which column to fill in.
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i'm not sure if i missed a reply to a similar inquiry. I would like to know if I need to change my form or account type if I decide to self-contribute.
I used to be employed but now self-employed. so, i have an existing EPF i-Akuan. appreciate if anyone can give insight. Thanks in advance.
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i'm not sure if i missed a reply to a similar inquiry. I would like to know if I need to change my form or account type if I decide to self-contribute.
I used to be employed but now self-employed. so, i have an existing EPF i-Akuan.   appreciate if anyone can give insight. Thanks in advance.
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effective 1 July 2018, members who contribute voluntarily to their EPF accounts, either through the 1Malaysia Retirement Scheme (SP1M), Self-Contribution or the Top-Up Savings Contribution, can now do so in any amount, as the requirement to contribute a minimum RM50 at any one time is abolished. The accumulated maximum amount to be contributed into each account, however, remains capped at RM60,000 per annum.
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/flexible-voluntar...ive-1-july-2018

What You Need
Self-Contribution Payment Form - KWSP 6A(1)
Payment through internet banking, cash, bank draft or cheque.
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 3 2019, 12:13 AM)
effective 1 July 2018, members who contribute voluntarily to their EPF accounts, either through the 1Malaysia Retirement Scheme (SP1M), Self-Contribution or the Top-Up Savings Contribution, can now do so in any amount, as the requirement to contribute a minimum RM50 at any one time is abolished. The accumulated maximum amount to be contributed into each account, however, remains capped at RM60,000 per annum.
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/flexible-voluntar...ive-1-july-2018

What You Need
Self-Contribution Payment Form - KWSP 6A(1)
Payment through internet banking, cash, bank draft or cheque.
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution
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Thanks very much for the reply. I did try to bank in an amount through my Maybank2U and it worked. Do i still need to go through the self-contribution payment form?
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Thanks very much for the reply. I did try to bank in an amount through my Maybank2U and it worked. Do i still need to go through the self-contribution payment form?
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check your KWSP i-akaun?
maybe it will takes a few days to update...

I think no need to submit form already.....I think think only ya
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Thanks very much for the reply. I did try to bank in an amount through my Maybank2U and it worked. Do i still need to go through the self-contribution payment form?
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Bolehkah saya membuat Caruman Pilihan Sendiri tanpa menggunakan borang?
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i wondered that how you guys self-contribution through online banking (maybank2u)

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i wondered that how you guys self-contribution through online banking (maybank2u)
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googled and found this....

How to Pay EPF Self Contribution Online
Updated: October 8, 2019
Step By Step Pay EPF Online, pay EPF or KWSP ourselves (self contribution) online using Maybank2U.
http://www.misterleaf.com/9782/epf-self-contribution-online/


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Hi Krv23490. Hope everything is going well for you.

Thanks for the info. I opened my EPF account this morning. There is a nice retirement advisory service provided at my Seberang Jaya branch here.


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Hey Nicholas... quick question. Were you able to open the account online or must show up at local branch with MyKad? hmm.gif
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Hey Nicholas... quick question. Were you able to open the account online or must show up at local branch with MyKad?  hmm.gif
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To register for the first time, you cannot do it online. If you are not an existing EPF member, then there are several ways to register as a member:-

1. Over the counter at any EPF branches
2. Through your Employer's i-Akaun
3. Self registration from kiosk at any EPF branches
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It’s a good form of FD with higher interest versus conventional FD. Only minus part is withdrawal is limited to certain condition (partial) and full withdrawal upon reaching certain age. Can topup EPF via Maybank online.
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QUOTE(hft @ Nov 9 2019, 10:52 AM)
It’s a good form of FD with higher interest versus conventional FD. Only minus part is withdrawal is limited to certain condition (partial) and full withdrawal upon reaching certain age. Can topup EPF via Maybank online.
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Yes, indeed. For past 10+ years, beats FD with little risks. Just keep it there till it accumulate up to 600K to 2mln, then
you can retire financial free and withdraw only the earnings/dividends, it's like money in perpetuity.
If you're young, just sock away as much as possible and if employer contribution cannot max out, just top up yourself to
max RM 60K per year. Just take 10 years to achieve 600K. At 600K, it will generate 3K/month for you.

Start early.. if starts at age 25 continue to work till 55, even not earning high income can retire financial free.


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For those who wish to receive the 15% government contribution (max rm250) from self contribution, pls make sure you select “i saraan” in the pop up menu and not “self contribution”. Otherwise they won’t make any payment into your account.

As informed by one of the EPF officer today. Attached is example for maybank transfer screen.


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QUOTE(birdman8 @ Nov 12 2019, 09:42 PM)
For those who wish to receive the 15% government contribution (max rm250) from self contribution, pls make sure you select “i saraan” in the pop up menu and not “self contribution”. Otherwise they won’t make any payment into your account.

As informed by one of the EPF officer today. Attached is example for maybank transfer screen.
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hmm.gif wondering what will the "penalty" like if one is working for someone/employed but click the I saran just to get the RM250?
I think the system will easily detect the "illegal" selection from the monthly majikan contribution....
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Nov 12 2019, 09:57 PM)
hmm.gif wondering what will the "penalty" like if one is working for someone/employed but click the I saran just to get the RM250?
I think the system will easily detect the "illegal" selection from the monthly majikan contribution....
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There is a form to fill in in EPF office to register oneself for i saraan
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QUOTE(birdman8 @ Nov 12 2019, 10:09 PM)
There is a form to fill in in EPF office to register oneself for i saraan
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yes, in the form it stated...."Mana-mana orang yang bekerja sendiri atau tiada pendapatan tetap"
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20126/140...41-fcf30293a1f1

i-Saraan Eligibility
Malaysian citizen
Registered as an EPF member (else can apply to be a EPF member)
Self employed

Self Employed Definition....
Defined as derive income from their work and not an employee (Salaried employees who receive regular income are not eligible)
Farmers/Fishermen/Taxi Drivers
Small Business Owners/Hawkers/Night Market Traders
Babysitters
Commission-receiving agents (eg. insurance agents, real estate agents)
Freelancers (eg. those who receive payment for services including deejays, singers, actors, fitness instructors, consultants)
Business Owners (sole proprietors/partners) involved in the trading of goods and services
Online Business Owners
Professionals with their own practice (eg. accountants, doctors, lawyers)
Housewives
Pensionable Employees

https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/

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QUOTE(birdman8 @ Nov 12 2019, 09:42 PM)
For those who wish to receive the 15% government contribution (max rm250) from self contribution, pls make sure you select “i saraan” in the pop up menu and not “self contribution”. Otherwise they won’t make any payment into your account.

As informed by one of the EPF officer today. Attached is example for maybank transfer screen.
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Max RM250 is monthly or annually?
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Max RM250 is monthly or annually?
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Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan)
As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions.
*Not applicable to members that receive a fixed employer contribution.
*Government contribution is limited to members who are below age 55.

If you are self-employed, you can look into i-Saraan contribution with the government incentive of 15% by contributing RM1,667 per year until Y2022.

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Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan)
As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions.
*Not applicable to members that receive a fixed employer contribution.
*Government contribution is limited to members who are below age 55.

If you are self-employed, you can look into i-Saraan contribution with the government incentive of 15% by contributing RM1,667 per year until Y2022.
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For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees.

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For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees.
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EPF Dividends: until age 100
EPF Death Benefit: RM2,500
EPF Incapacitation Benefit: RM5,000
EPF Tax Exemption: RM6k (shared with life insurance)**
2014-2017: Government matching contribution 10% up to RM120 (for up to RM1,200 contributed)
2018-2022: Government matching contribution 15% up to RM250 (for up to RM1,667 contributed)
Note: Government matching for contributors below age 55 only

https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 12 2019, 11:01 PM)
i-Saraan Benefits
EPF Dividends: until age 100
EPF Death Benefit: RM2,500
EPF Incapacitation Benefit: RM5,000
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2014-2017: Government matching contribution 10% up to RM120 (for up to RM1,200 contributed)
2018-2022: Government matching contribution 15% up to RM250 (for up to RM1,667 contributed)
Note: Government matching for contributors below age 55 only

https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/

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4k lah for 2019, 3k for life insurance separetely. So i-saraan got tax benefit after all?
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4k lah for 2019, 3k for life insurance separetely. So i-saraan got tax benefit after all?
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those qualified and have money to spare,...... only need RM1667 to get RM250
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QUOTE(bourse @ Jul 16 2019, 10:12 PM)
Below is my own experience.

if appear in 1 Feb 2020 whole Feb enjoy the monthly interest.
if appear in 31 Jan 2020 lose 1 day interest, but after this Feb and all month enjoy interest.
if appear in 2 Feb 2020 lose whole Feb month interest, but after this, Mac and all month enjoy interest.

- self contribution via bank on 1/3/2018.  appear in EPF account in 2/3/2018.  Dividend for Mar2018 till Dec2018.  This year will try bank in say 27/28 of the month, to try out the dividend calculation.
2.)If every month no top up, but have balance in EPF, this is not complicated counting and use the calculation(Base on counting others, the counting more complicated than above EPF, the results can call very absolutely not wrong count, even of 1 cent), but why use the same counting, the results of above EPF each account can less RM 0.02.
You self do a counting?

- yes, I do my own calculation. if total  +/- 5 sen, I take it correct.  unless you manual key in after the calculation like rm123.456, you re-key into the worksheet as rm123.46.  then, it should be okay.
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Sorry, ild thread. If Some1 bank in 60k lump sum in Nov, how much dividend will he get next year.
Is it gonna be pro rated by the number of month before December?
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QUOTE(Sean77 @ Nov 21 2019, 09:16 AM)
Sorry, ild thread. If Some1 bank in 60k lump sum in Nov, how much dividend will he get next year.
Is it gonna be pro rated by the number of month before December?
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As stated above, if bank in (cleared) into EPF on 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Nov & Dec (2/12 x % x amount)

If after 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Dec (1/12 x % x amount) only.



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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Nov 21 2019, 10:04 AM)
As stated above, if bank in (cleared) into EPF on 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Nov & Dec (2/12 x % x amount)

If after 1-Nov, then interest pro-rated for Dec (1/12 x % x amount) only.
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If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right.

If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right?

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 1 2019, 02:56 PM)
If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right.

If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right?

Thanks
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Based on my experience, it takes 2 working days to appear in your account.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 1 2019, 02:56 PM)
If I make the online transfer on 30-Dec, it should appear in EPF on 31-Dec right.

If my fund is in form of cashier order/banker's cheque dated 30-Dec, any idea how I can get it available on my savings account on the 30th itself so that I can make online contribution? It dies take a few days to clear the cheque right?

Thanks
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Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u?

I always thought it is in December, am I right?
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Dec 2 2019, 04:06 PM)
Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u?

I always thought it is in December, am I right?
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I think for those over 55 yrs old, and with money laying around in FD only,....January would be the best month....
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QUOTE(frostfrench @ Dec 2 2019, 04:06 PM)
Which month is the best month to do self contribution EPF by maybank2u?

I always thought it is in December, am I right?
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Why December ? hmm.gif

If you think EPF is stupid, no. EPF will pro-rate the contribution based on the month, so dividend is pro-rate depending on the month+1 it is banked in.

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The month is prorated, but not the day right? So near the end of the month is no different than early or the month.
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this link would explain everything about the dividend calculation

https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/how-to-ca...e-epf-dividend/
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this link would explain everything about the dividend calculation

https://1-million-dollar-blog.com/how-to-ca...e-epf-dividend/
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From the below example, does it mean that any contribution from the second half of the month gets the same interest regardless of the exact date? ie. 15th Feb gives the same dividend as 27th Feb for the month of February?

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From 15th until 27th February, dividend is calculated as follow,

Account 1 dividend = (70,000 + 700 – 1000) x 5.65% / 365 x 13 days = 140.26
Account 2 dividend = (30,000 + 300) x 5.65% / 365 x 13 days = 60.97

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 2 2019, 08:55 PM)
From the below example, does it mean that any contribution from the second half of the month gets the same interest regardless of the exact date? ie. 15th Feb gives the same dividend as 27th Feb for the month of February?
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hmm.gif looks like 15 ~ 27 is 13 days, thus the calculation is 13
thus I think if deposit on 27 Feb then only 1 day
don't you think so?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 2 2019, 09:15 PM)
hmm.gif looks like 15 ~ 27 is 13 days, thus the calculation is 13
thus I think if deposit on 27 Feb then only 1 day
don't you think so?
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That is why I am confused because from the example shown, it appears to be no different.

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 2 2019, 09:26 PM)
That is why I am confused because from the example shown, it appears to be no different.
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that example has a withdrawal in FEB, thus the balance is different...
I think that is the reason for 2 calculation in FEB using 2 different number of days
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 2 2019, 09:57 PM)
that example has a withdrawal in FEB, thus the balance is different...
I think that is the reason for 2 calculation in FEB using 2 different number of days
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Makes sense too. At least now I know that contribution on a date gives daily interest for that month too. I mistakenly thought that it will only take effect the following month.

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For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees.
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I used to thought this i saraan is eligible for tax relief, for pensionable gomen servant. But actually its not until I saw the latest 2019 relief table, made a call to LHDN, and they said term applicable also for 2018. What? where is the black and white? I want to see the term clearly. Feel like cheated.

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QUOTE(Wong Kit yew @ Nov 12 2019, 10:42 PM)
For i-saraan contributors, are they eligible for 4k tax relief annually? They are pensionable employees.
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QUOTE(Jack&Guild @ Dec 24 2019, 04:54 PM)
I used to thought this i saraan is eligible for tax relief, for pensionable gomen servant. But actually its not until I saw the latest 2019 relief table, made a call to LHDN, and they said term applicable also for 2018. What? where is the black and white? I want to see the term clearly. Feel like cheated.
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just the latest news on tax relief for pensionable employees that contribute to EPF....
According to the IRB's assessment year 2019 tax relief schedule for resident individual, those in the pensionable public servant category are entitled to a restricted RM7,000 tax relief for their life insurance premiums.

For individuals outside the pensionable public servant category, the IRB said life insurance premium tax relief is restricted to RM3,000 while contribution to the EPF or approved scheme is entitled to a restricted tax relief of RM4,000.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/high...-assessment-irb

on this..."But actually its not until I saw the latest 2019 relief table, made a call to LHDN, and they said term applicable also for 2018. What? where is the black and white? I want to see the term clearly. Feel like cheated."
check post 5483
income tax issues ....
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry94949930

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lots of informative answers in this Thread (amazing!)

would anyone happen to know what happens if,
- full RM60k contribution is made NOW via Bank Transfer for Y2020
- additional contributions continue to come in monthly due to Salary

do the additional contributions sit w/o Interest in our EPF accounts or do they “bounce” back out to the account which was used for the initial full RM60k contribution
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QUOTE(blu3chip @ Dec 27 2019, 11:25 AM)
lots of informative answers in this Thread (amazing!)

would anyone happen to know what happens if,
- full RM60k contribution is made NOW via Bank Transfer for Y2020
- additional contributions continue to come in monthly due to Salary

do the additional contributions sit w/o Interest in our EPF accounts or do they “bounce” back out to the account which was used for the initial full RM60k contribution
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Contribution from salary doesnt affect the RM60k contribution.

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 24 2019, 05:22 PM)
just the latest news on tax relief for pensionable employees that contribute to EPF....
According to the IRB's assessment year 2019 tax relief schedule for resident individual, those in the pensionable public servant category are entitled to a restricted RM7,000 tax relief for their life insurance premiums.

For individuals outside the pensionable public servant category, the IRB said life insurance premium tax relief is restricted to RM3,000 while contribution to the EPF or approved scheme is entitled to a restricted tax relief of RM4,000.

https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/high...-assessment-irb

on this..."But actually its not until I saw the latest 2019 relief table, made a call to LHDN, and they said term applicable also for 2018. What? where is the black and white? I want to see the term clearly. Feel like cheated."
check post 5483
income tax issues ....
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0#entry94949930
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wonder why lhdn initiated such move... wonder how many of us really go for 7k for life premium....

would like the combination of 4k + 3k
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Dec 2 2019, 10:06 PM)
Makes sense too. At least now I know that contribution on a date gives daily interest for that month too. I mistakenly thought that it will only take effect the following month.

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No. Contribution before the last day of the month does not yield any dividend on a daily basis. You only get 1 day, i.e. the last day.

So banking in money on Dec 30 = banking in money on Dec 1. It will be reflected as dec 31 on Jan 1 if you bank in on Dec 30. If you bank in on Dec 31, I don't know if you are entitled for the Jan 2020 dividend. A post earlier said yes, but I rather FD for 1 month and bank in Jan 30 than lose an entire month's dividend banking in on the last day of the month

For your bank draft question, I don't know. Borrow some money and return once it is cleared? I wired with public bank and those are the dates I have. Don't know how long maybank2me to me takes. I think EPF has accounts with these banks and will just follow the transaction date + 1 day.

QUOTE(blu3chip @ Dec 27 2019, 11:25 AM)
lots of informative answers in this Thread (amazing!)

would anyone happen to know what happens if,
- full RM60k contribution is made NOW via Bank Transfer for Y2020
- additional contributions continue to come in monthly due to Salary

do the additional contributions sit w/o Interest in our EPF accounts or do they “bounce” back out to the account which was used for the initial full RM60k contribution
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Likely bounce back. The reason limiting to 60k is avoid money laundering. Holding any amount beyond the yearly 60k, although without dividend is as good as money laundering

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Thanks for the quick responses. so in order for us to enjoy FY2020 dividend, we should perform a bank transfer Tomorrow (30-Dec) or New Year (1-Jan) itself?
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If we bank in a self contribution on 1-Jan 2020, we will not know its status until after the 2019 dividend is declared and full statement of 2019 released (together with the current statement of 2020 transactions) which is normally in mid-February.
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QUOTE(blu3chip @ Dec 29 2019, 12:28 PM)
Thanks for the quick responses. so in order for us to enjoy FY2020 dividend, we should perform a bank transfer Tomorrow (30-Dec) or New Year (1-Jan) itself?
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There is a 2-3 days delay, you can just deposit and see if the transaction is recorded as 2019 or 2020 lor, but likely the latter.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 10:44 AM)
If we bank in a self contribution on 1-Jan 2020, we will not know its status until after the 2019 dividend is declared and full statement of 2019 released (together with the current statement of 2020 transactions) which is normally in mid-February.
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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait as per the above to know the status?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 30 2019, 11:27 AM)
if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait as per the above to know the status?
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BTW the divs are prorated daily, if you deposit last minutes in 2019 you still get peanuts or nothing, might as well play safe and deposit in 2020 for tax relief benefits.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 30 2019, 11:27 AM)
if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait as per the above to know the status?
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Yes, it does not show in EPF online instantly even if you do bank online instant transfer. It may take 2-4 days to reflect in your EPF online i-akaun.

To be safe, I always do it few days before 1st of month, excluding weekends.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 10:44 AM)
If we bank in a self contribution on 1-Jan 2020, we will not know its status until after the 2019 dividend is declared and full statement of 2019 released (together with the current statement of 2020 transactions) which is normally in mid-February.
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do take note the below comments....

QUOTE(honsiong @ Dec 30 2019, 11:40 AM)
BTW the divs are prorated daily, if you deposit last minutes in 2019 you still get peanuts or nothing, might as well play safe and deposit in 2020 for tax relief benefits.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Dec 30 2019, 11:57 AM)
Yes, it does not show in EPF online instantly even if you do bank online instant transfer. It may take 2-4 days to reflect in your EPF online i-akaun.

To be safe, I always do it few days before 1st of month, excluding weekends.
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I have already maxed out this year’s 60K limit. Plan to dump in another 60K next mth Jan 2020. However ayam concerned that the credit status cannot be seen until after the 2019 dividend is declared in Feb 2020. If you check the i-akaun in Jan 2020, you will only see balance and transactions up till 31-Dec 2019.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 04:16 PM)
I have already maxed out this year’s 60K limit. Plan to dump in another 60K next mth Jan 2020. However ayam concerned that the credit status cannot be seen until after the 2019 dividend is declared in Feb 2020. If you check the i-akaun in Jan 2020, you will only see balance and transactions up till 31-Dec 2019.
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maybe this helps?

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Contribution from salary doesnt affect the RM60k contribution.
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Thats not what I am looking for.

When I credit in a self cont, I expect to see it within 3 working days. Not in 1.5 mths time. I think better wait til Feb after statement’s out.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 04:44 PM)
Thats not what I am looking for.

When I credit in a self cont, I expect to see it within 3 working days. Not in 1.5 mths time. I think better wait til Feb after statement’s out.
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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait 1.5 months to know the status?
the self contribution amount credited will not be reflected within 1 week?
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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait 1.5 months to know the status?
the self contribution amount credited will not be reflected within 1 week?
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Mine reflected in 2 days 😉
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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait 1.5 months to know the status?
the self contribution amount credited will not be reflected within 1 week?
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From my experience this year, it takes on average 3 working days to see it reflected on i-akaun. There was one time I could see it the next day.

If you credit in xx amount under self-contribution lets say, on 31-Dec 2019, you will only see it credited in Feb 2020 selepas new statement released.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 07:12 PM)
From my experience this year, it takes on average 3 working days to see it reflected on i-akaun. There was one time I could see it the next day.

If you credit in xx amount under self-contribution lets say, on 31-Dec 2019, you will only see it credited in Feb 2020 selepas new statement released.
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do you mean the experiences that you had (regarding the average 3 working days time taken for credit amount reflection) are not on the self contribution activities?

self contribution credit value activities will only be reflected 2 months later ....... confused.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 07:12 PM)
From my experience this year, it takes on average 3 working days to see it reflected on i-akaun. There was one time I could see it the next day.

If you credit in xx amount under self-contribution lets say, on 31-Dec 2019, you will only see it credited in Feb 2020 selepas new statement released.
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Your bolded quote above doesn't make sense. You don't have to wait for the monthly statement. You view it from your detail transaction history. Can see immediate within 2-4 working days as stated earlier.

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If I credit on 30-Nov-2019, I can see transaction history by about 1-Dec to 4-Dec. I don't have to wait for the monthly statement by end Dec-2019 or early Jan-2019.

Hence the same if I credit on 31-Dec-2019, I can see the transaction history by about 1-Jan to 4-Jan. I don't have to wait for the monthly statement by end Jan-2020 or early Feb-2020 rclxub.gif

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I was referring specifically to transactions in January. Thats the black out period before declaration of dividend.

Otherwise its usually 3 working days.

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would there be a confirmation email/SMS sent or do we just assume that the amount goes through eg. M2U Online Transfer and only can verify in Feb?
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Depends on the bank, but in my case there was no SMS except for the one for the TAC code. Thats the only proof that I did the payment.

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 31 2019, 12:38 AM)
I was referring specifically to transactions in January. Thats the black out period before declaration of dividend.

Otherwise its usually 3 working days.
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Monthly statement is not available in the beginning of the year until announced declared divided by mid/end February of every year. But with latest online, you can check the transaction details anytime.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 07:12 PM)
From my experience this year, it takes on average 3 working days to see it reflected on i-akaun. There was one time I could see it the next day.

If you credit in xx amount under self-contribution lets say, on 31-Dec 2019, you will only see it credited in Feb 2020 selepas new statement released.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 31 2019, 12:38 AM)
I was referring specifically to transactions in January. Thats the black out period before declaration of dividend.

Otherwise its usually 3 working days.
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just out of curiosity and
to "test" the availability of black out period of transaction details and
to determine if the self contribution amount will only be credited in Feb 2020 selepas new statement released (per above post)
I made a self contribution on 31 Dec 2019 (as suggested in the above post)

my EPF a/c's total balance was updated with the self contribution value & it also displayed the contribution details 3 days later. (on 3 Jan)

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Your bolded quote above doesn't make sense. You don't have to wait for the monthly statement. You view it from your detail transaction history. Can see immediate within 2-4 working days as stated earlier.

e.g
If I credit on 30-Nov-2019, I can see transaction history by about 1-Dec to 4-Dec. I don't have to wait for the monthly statement by end Dec-2019 or early Jan-2019.

Hence the same if I credit on 31-Dec-2019, I can see the transaction history by about 1-Jan to 4-Jan. I don't have to wait for the monthly statement by end Jan-2020 or early Feb-2020  rclxub.gif

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Monthly statement is not available in the beginning of the year until announced declared divided by mid/end February of every year. But with latest online, you can check the transaction details anytime.
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Looks like what you mentioned are happening .

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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait as per the above to know the status?
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if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait 1.5 months to know the status?
the self contribution amount credited will not be reflected within 1 week?
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I used the EPF I-akaun to check, it did reflects in 3 days, the self contribution amount in my total a/c balance

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would there be a confirmation email/SMS sent or do we just assume that the amount goes through eg. M2U Online Transfer and only can verify in Feb?
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tag the both of you because you seems to be following this.....

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just out of curiosity and to "test" the availability of black out period of transaction details.
I made a self contribution on 31 Dec 2019 (as suggested in the above post)

my EPF a/c's total balance was updated with the self contribution value/details 3 days later.

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Looks like what you mentioned are happening .

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I used the EPF I-akaun to check, it did reflects in 3 days, the self contribution amount in my total a/c balance

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I made a self contribution on 1.1.2020 unfortunately still not reflected in my online account sad.gif

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I made a self contribution on 1.1.2020 unfortunately still not reflected in my online account sad.gif
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 3 2020, 10:28 AM)
just out of curiosity and to "test" the availability of black out period of transaction details.
I made a self contribution on 31 Dec 2019 (as suggested in the above post)

my EPF a/c's total balance was updated with the self contribution value/details 3 days later.

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Looks like what you mentioned are happening .

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I used the EPF I-akaun to check, it did reflects in 3 days, the self contribution amount in my total a/c balance

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Thanks for confirming with proof icon_rolleyes.gif I also start to dump in for 2020 already on 1/1/2020

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Thanks for confirming with proof  icon_rolleyes.gif  I also start to dump in for 2020 already on 1/1/2020
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nice to hear that you did contribute on 1 Jan
can you do as what I had told ikanbilis? (per below)
just to confirm that, "that update happenings" is not only in my a/c.

QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 3 2020, 10:40 AM)
try on Monday, and tell if there is a change in your total balance and a mention of self contribution details as in my image....
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I contributed on 31st dec and being reflected on Dec statement although it says 2nd of January.

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I think the self contribution on 31-Dec 2019 is considered last year's input, and will reflect under Balance as of 31/12/2019.

If its done within the month of January 2020, then it will show under the Year 2020 tab, Balance as of xx/x/2020, after the 2019 dividend is released.

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I'm thinking of crediting 50K lump sum this month (January) into the EPF, but am worried it cannot be seen until next month. Worried about such a sum in limbo.

If any lab rat here can try it out, and it reflects on the i-akaun, please share the outcome here smile.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 3 2020, 11:38 AM)
I'm thinking of crediting 50K lump sum this month (January) into the EPF, but am worried it cannot be seen until next month. Worried about such a sum in limbo.

If any lab rat here can try it out, and it reflects on the i-akaun, please share the outcome here smile.gif
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2 forummers had mentioned that they did it on 1 Jan...
Have to see their findings.
Btw. I thought you had experienced that already...
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I contributed on 31st dec and being reflected on Dec statement although it says 2nd of January.
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thumbup.gif thanks for confirming. about the 31 Dec 2019 in and a/c balance updated in Jan 2020
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Make sure you audit annually your self contribution and keep receipt copy of transfer. Sometimes did not reflect in statement one of many transfers.
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Make sure you audit annually your self contribution and keep receipt copy of transfer. Sometimes did not reflect in statement one of many transfers.
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if not reflected in statement means money "missing"?
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Thanks for the prompt updates, friends! have made a contribution on 1-Jan as well and will be updating you guys as/when it is reflected on my end. should be fine as it was done via M2U
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Yes missing. Just drop them email with pdf copy of transfer.
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just curious,...happened to you before?

just curious in the computer and money inter banking FPX age.....for this to happens....

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just curious,...happened to you before?

just curious in the computer and money inter banking FPX age.....for this to happens....
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Yes to me. Say done Jan to July, one of them is missing say Mar. No way not updated after few months.

Method of transfer is same for all transactions, MayBen.
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Yes to me. Say done Jan to July, one of them is missing say Mar. No way not updated after few months.

Method of transfer is same for all transactions, MayBen.
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is the balance in that a/c updated with the additional money from Mar even when the statement is not updated?

thumbsup.gif anyway thanks for highlighting it....
I had been using FPX payment for my bills, purchases and expenses stuffs sweat.gif sweat.gif

hmm.gif wondering how their a/c tally with the transaction details from yr bank a/c with theirs?
one in, one out......basic account ledger?

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is the balance in that a/c updated with the additional money from Mar even when the statement is not updated?

:thumbsup:  any thanks for highlighting it....
had been using FPX payment for my bills, purchases and expenses stuffs  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

hmm.gif wondering how their a/c tally with the transaction details from yr bank a/c with theirs?
one in, one out......basic account ledger?
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Yes not tally/not updated.

Nothing will ensure what out from our account tally into other ledger, not like blockchain bitcrap.

I always keep PDF copy of every transaction saved into global google drive.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 3 2020, 12:46 PM)
2 forummers had mentioned that they did it on 1 Jan...
Have to see their findings.
Btw. I thought you had experienced that already...
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I hv just rung up EPF cust service to enquire, and the feedback is, any self caruman this month (Jan 2020) can only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released.

If you credit on 31-Dec 2019, then it will be reflected on your 2019 statement, as you hv just done.

Therefore I will wait till next mth to transfer my self cuntribution, to be on the safe side.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 30 2019, 04:44 PM)
Thats not what I am looking for.

When I credit in a self cont, I expect to see it within 3 working days. Not in 1.5 mths time. I think better wait til Feb after statement’s out.
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your concern and decision to wait is valid for the below....

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Yes not tally/not updated.

Nothing will ensure what out from our account tally into other ledger, not like blockchain bitcrap.

I always keep PDF copy of every transaction saved into global google drive.
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I hv just rung up EPF cust service to enquire, and the feedback is, any self caruman this month (Jan 2020) can only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released.

If you credit on 31-Dec 2019, then it will be reflected on your 2019 statement, as you hv just done.

Therefore I will wait till next mth to transfer my self cuntribution, to be on the safe side.
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if the self contribution this month (Jan 2020) can only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released.

so will the deduction of employees contribution and contribution from their companies in Jan 2020, will also only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released?

anyone kind enough to check and update this 2 weeks later (usually companies will submit before 15 of the month?)

I cannot check as I have not contribution.

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No dividend given I believe.
Money sure won't return to the bank! laugh.gif
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if the self contribution this month (Jan 2020) can only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released.

so will the deduction of employees contribution and contribution from their companies in Jan 2020, will also only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released?

anyone kind enough to check and update this 2 weeks later (usually companies will submit before 15 of the month?)

I cannot check as I have not contribution.
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Cuntributions from salary for January you will also see in the 2020 statement post-dividend declaration.
For February cuntributions, you might sight it together if the declaration is done after 15th of the month.
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Cuntributions from salary for January you will also see in the 2020 statement post-dividend declaration.
For February cuntributions, you might sight it together if the declaration is done after 15th of the month.
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Yes, the self contribution and deduction for January2020 will only be seen after dividend is released.
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Mine is under 2019 or 2020 contribution? I wanted it to be on 2020.
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This is accounted under 2019.
Not sure if you will incur dividend on it though.
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Mine is under 2019 or 2020 contribution? I wanted it to be on 2020.
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if the self contribution this month (Jan 2020) can only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released.

so will the deduction of employees contribution and contribution from their companies in Jan 2020, will also only be seen in the new statement for 2020 after dividend is released?

anyone kind enough to check and update this 2 weeks later (usually companies will submit before 15 of the month?)

I cannot check as I have not contribution.
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Yes, the self contribution and deduction for January2020 will only be seen after dividend is released.
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Mine is under 2019 or 2020 contribution? I wanted it to be on 2020.
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if you already maxed out 60k for 2019, means they would not have accepted another 2k for 2019 right? so it must have gone to 2020 ledger

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Sorry for asking dumb question but say now out of desperation I need to withdraw 50k from acc2 for Renovation can i Put back 50k into acc2 after selling off my car , bcos I need to start Reno but my car still not yet have buyer don't want sell to car dealer cheap
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Sorry for asking dumb question but say now out of desperation I need to withdraw 50k from acc2 for Renovation can i Put back 50k into acc2 after selling off my car , bcos I need to start Reno but my car still not yet have buyer don't want sell to car dealer cheap
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according to this site....
"......you cannot withdraw EPF funds for house renovation - it isn't listed in the types of withdrawals."

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/Duit-The-Ea...ithdrawals.html
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QUOTE(heng84 @ Jan 4 2020, 12:18 PM)
Sorry for asking dumb question but say now out of desperation I need to withdraw 50k from acc2 for Renovation can i Put back 50k into acc2 after selling off my car , bcos I need to start Reno but my car still not yet have buyer don't want sell to car dealer cheap
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Theoretically, short answer, yes.

Long answer, provided you meet all the requirements/eligibility/etc. You can withdraw 50k from account 2, there is a formula to calculate maximum withdrawal.
But when you put back 50k, as self-contribution, it will split 70/30 into account 1 and 2. At the end of day/year/55/life, the annual dividend % calculation is still the same whether is account 1 or 2. But it will affect future account 2 withdrawal.
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according to this site....
"......you cannot withdraw EPF funds for house renovation - it isn't listed in the types of withdrawals."

https://ringgitplus.com/en/blog/Duit-The-Ea...ithdrawals.html
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Ya but can withdraw under other purpose , but end up is my life savings that why I want to put back , and for high interest dividend
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 4 2020, 12:26 PM)
Theoretically, short answer, yes.

Long answer, provided you meet all the requirements/eligibility/etc. You can withdraw 50k from account 2, there is a formula to calculate maximum withdrawal.
But when you put back 50k, as self-contribution, it will split 70/30 into account 1 and 2. At the end of day/year/55/life, the annual dividend % calculation is still the same whether is account 1 or 2. But it will affect future account 2 withdrawal.
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Oh thanks for the clarification and answer that's what I'm looking for haha , 70/30 means If I take 100k fr acc2 put back future only left back 30k in acc2 right
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Ya but can withdraw under other purpose , but end up is my life savings that why I want to put back , and for high interest dividend
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will the withdrawal under other purpose is faster between selling your car and the withdrawal process as the timing of your plan to renovate is a priority.?

if withdrawal is faster, then it is as per forummer Cute_boboi's post....above
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will the withdrawal under other purpose is faster between selling your car and the withdrawal process as the timing of your plan to renovate is a priority.?

if withdrawal is faster, then it is as per forummer Cute_boboi's post....above
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Oh thanks for the clarification and answer that's what I'm looking for haha , 70/30 means If I take 100k fr acc2 put back future only left back 30k in acc2 right
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^^^ Yes.

One more point is EPF withdrawal is changing every now and then. Previously for first-time withdrawal for house purchase, EPF bank direct into my own savings account, not the loan account. Subsequent withdrawal is direct into loan account. FYI, this is many years ago.

Nowadays, I think EPF will direct into loan account. I'm not sure.

Also depends if current bank loan will lock-in or direct-reduce the loan principal balance or not. If like this, then you cannot withdraw also. Also depends if your bank loan is full/semi flexi or just regular loan that cannot withdraw.

You have to check with your bank loan and EPF.
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I'm thinking of crediting 50K lump sum this month (January) into the EPF, but am worried it cannot be seen until next month. Worried about such a sum in limbo.

If any lab rat here can try it out, and it reflects on the i-akaun, please share the outcome here smile.gif
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If your total already reached 1mil, then taking out the 50k wouldnt be restricted on the purpose of the money. If for house reno, i dont think can unless but if its for the first house, first time , they will bank in to your account. But later stages, whatever withdraw will to the loan account and you can not take it out even its a flexi loan account.

I suggest just go get some credit card cash out, i think HL giving like 3% plus pa. Still cheaper on this rather you take out the 50k from EPF as that 50k is giving you say 5-6%pa.

For short term roll ...
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Confirm that self contribution made on 1 Jan is not reflected in the online account.

Disappointed with EPF systems. Now is year 2020 and you cannot reflect members deposits until declared dividends? I am not even asking for real time, at least you should be able to do so after 2 or 3 days. Else how do we know our deposits are intact and not lost in transition?
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 7 2020, 09:05 PM)
Confirm that self contribution made on 1 Jan is not reflected in the online account.

Disappointed with EPF systems. Now is year 2020 and you cannot reflect members deposits until declared dividends? I am not even asking for real time, at least you should be able to do so after 2 or 3 days. Else how do we know our deposits are intact and not lost in transition?
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Did you try to see the 'Withdrawal eligibility' section to find any increment of sum due to your deposit? It's an indirect way of checking your up to date current balance if I am not wrong.
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Did you try to see the 'Withdrawal eligibility' section to find any increment of sum due to your deposit? It's an indirect way of checking your up to date current balance if I am not wrong.
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Thanks bro! Use your method and saw the increment which is the amount i deposited on 1 Jan biggrin.gif

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Thanks bro! Use your method and saw the increment which is the amount i deposited on 1 Jan biggrin.gif
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romuluz777 seems like they are able to see the updated balance of amount deposited during the "black out" period
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romuluz777 seems like they are able to see the updated balance of amount deposited during the "black out" period
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That only applies to self-contributions transacted up till 31-Dec 2019. If you make this transaction during 1-Jan 2020, you won’t see it until after the 2019 dividend declaration.
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 7 2020, 09:23 PM)
Thanks bro! Use your method and saw the increment which is the amount i deposited on 1 Jan biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 8 2020, 07:08 AM)
That only applies to self-contributions transacted up till 31-Dec 2019. If you make this transaction during 1-Jan 2020, you won’t see it until after the 2019 dividend declaration.
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He mentioned 1 Jan he deposited
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He mentioned 1 Jan he deposited
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OK, the indirect method works. Thanks for the tip guys.
Will proceed to dump the big sum in now biggrin.gif


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Please show the screenshot with the figures blanked out and transaction dates shown.
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not sure if he did keep screenshots of before and after transaction deposited on 1 Jan.
I think not many do that, unless they purposely want to proof something....
anyway I will ask

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Thanks bro! Use your method and saw the increment which is the amount i deposited on 1 Jan biggrin.gif
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can you do as per above post?
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Just for u guys info, the response from EPF.

Enquiry

If I were to make a self contribution in January 2020, will I be able to see the amount credited in my i akaun statement or do I have to wait until after the 2019 dividend is declared and the latest statement for 2020 updated ?

EPF Feedback

Mr xxx

Your e-mail dated 3 January 2020 is hereby referred.

Kindly be informed, contribution made during January 2020 can be viewed after the Dividend 2019 is declared.

For other enquiries, you may call EPF Contact Centre at 03-8922 6000, browse EPF official website, obtain EPF online feedback via Enquiry or visit any nearest EPF Offices.

Thank you.

"YOU ARE OUR PRIORITY"

With kind regards

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not sure if he did keep screenshots of before and after transaction deposited on 1 Jan.
I think not many do that, unless they purposely want to proof something....
anyway I will ask
can you do as per above post?
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There is no transaction date. You know your balance as at 31 Dec and the increment is your deposit. That is why its only an indirect method to check. Not directly show the amount and actual transanction
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not sure if it is the same, but maybe it is similar to as per this SSPN thread...

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If you use fpx through sspn website its updated instantly..

I deposit 8k on 2nd Jan 2020 even theres no 2020 transaction history the system still show it in the 2019 history..

System updated so 2020 transaction has already been reflected..
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There is no transaction date. You know your balance as at 31 Dec and the increment is your deposit. That is why its only an indirect method to check. Not directly show the amount and actual transanction
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As long as the money doesn't get suspended in limbo its fine.
Benefit of putting in $60K in January is that you get the dividend for the month.

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As long as the money doesn't get suspended in limbo its fine.
Benefit of putting in $60K in January is that you get the dividend for the month.
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what is the "last" date to put in, to be eligible for the FULL Jan dividend calculation?
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It is high time for epf to use fpx for members to deposit funds.

Sspn is using fpx and transaction immediately updated.

Asnb is using fpx and transaction immediately updated.

What about you, EPF, being the biggest fund in Malaysia?
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They are always the slowest adopters of latest features.
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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 8 2020, 10:41 AM)
It is high time for epf to use fpx for members to deposit funds.

Sspn is using fpx and transaction immediately updated.

Asnb is using fpx and transaction immediately updated.

What about you, EPF, being the biggest fund in Malaysia?
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Actually if u think carefully, it only limited ppl doing self contribution. Furthermore, not all of them using fpx. It might no worth the money spend (our money afterall) for such system enhancement. Existing channels are pretty sufficient to serve the need.

However, do agreed that their statements system should be enhanced. Its confusing and wander why they freeze the statement update till dividend being declared. The laps is a month plus!
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Actually if u think carefully, it only limited ppl doing self contribution. Furthermore, not all of them using fpx. It might no worth the money spend (our money afterall) for such system enhancement. Existing channels are pretty sufficient to serve the need.

However, do agreed that their statements system should be enhanced. Its confusing and wander why they freeze the statement update till dividend being declared. The laps is a month plus!
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Whilst i agree its only limited ppl doing self contribution, i dont agree with not spending money for system enhancement. Now payment gateway is so common and cheap not to mention Epf is managing hundreds of billions worth of fund. If Epf can loan RM200million to 1mdb easily, what is spending RM50k for upgrading systems?

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Whilst i agree its only limited ppl doing self contribution, i dont agree with not spending money for system enhancement. Now payment gateway is so common and cheap not to mention Epf is managing hundreds of billions worth of fund. If Epf can loan RM200million to 1mdb easily, what is spending RM50k for upgrading systems?
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Don't get me wrong. Spend money on important area and priorities stuff like statement enhancement. Fpx is pretty complicated by its design and outdated from technology perspective actually. Ppl shall more toward more elegant approach. On another front, abit out topic, do check who owned the fpx. Hehehe, why banks forced to support it.

50k u can buy a nuts only smile.gif. System vendor will as much more for such enhancement.
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Don't get me wrong. Spend money on important area and priorities stuff like statement enhancement. Fpx is pretty complicated by its design and outdated from technology perspective actually. Ppl shall more toward more elegant approach. On another front, abit out topic, do check who owned the fpx. Hehehe, why banks forced to support it.

50k u can buy a nuts only smile.gif.  System vendor will as much more for such enhancement.
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I'm not talking about upgrading the whole system. Im talking about designing a webpage that able to accept payment gateway such as fpx etc. You can check the iwk website how many types of payment they accept.

You talk about current channels are sufficient but do you actually know how many local banks that can make EPF self contributions? Do you think it's really sufficient?



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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 9 2020, 08:42 PM)
I'm not talking about upgrading the whole system. Im talking about designing a webpage that able to accept payment gateway such as fpx etc. You can check the iwk website how many types of payment they accept.

You talk about current channels are sufficient but do you actually know how many local banks that can make EPF self contributions? Do you think it's really sufficient?
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50k is not enough for fpx upgrade. U may check with any folk in IT line. Cease my case here as it way off topics. Just diff views and there is no absolute 'right' here.
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I see some of you put in the annual limit of RM60k self contribution.... why would you lock up the funds till age 55??? Even though the return is high...
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I see some of you put in the annual limit of RM60k self contribution.... why would you lock up the funds till age 55??? Even though the return is high...
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read before,...some has extra cash, some are nearer to age 55, some wanted the rate as it is easier than ASNB FP funds.
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read before,...some has extra cash, some are nearer to age 55, some wanted the rate as it is easier than ASNB FP funds.
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Unless close to age 55.... I think might as well put into stocks or if conservative just roll the FDs...

They say money is not really yours if it is not within your control now, and by that definition , EPF is not your money yet.... furthermore, rules might change to delay to 60 and beyond ( very likely) or to allow only staggered withdrawals ... u might never see the money in lump sum again... just voicing out my concerns for others to consider ...
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 10 2020, 08:46 AM)
Unless close to age 55.... I think might as well put into stocks or if conservative just roll the FDs...

They say money is not really yours if it is not within your control now, and by that definition , EPF is not your money yet.... furthermore, rules might change to delay to 60 and beyond ( very likely) or to allow only staggered withdrawals ... u might never see the money in lump sum again... just voicing out my concerns for others to consider ...
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different people has different views, different opinions and thinking....
some would also argue that 2% different (between EPF n FD) if rolled will snow balled will lead to a bigger numbers
some would argue that stock is much riskier than EPF
some would argue that EPF has already the age 60 rules in place.
different people has different views, different opinions and thinking....
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 10 2020, 08:46 AM)
Unless close to age 55.... I think might as well put into stocks or if conservative just roll the FDs...

They say money is not really yours if it is not within your control now, and by that definition , EPF is not your money yet.... furthermore, rules might change to delay to 60 and beyond ( very likely) or to allow only staggered withdrawals ... u might never see the money in lump sum again... just voicing out my concerns for others to consider ...
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This is just like saying “EPF will bankrupt”. Fairly certain everyone will get their money when they reached a certain age (be it 55 or even 65).

The main purpose of EPF is compounding interest no? Honestly I don’t see how that’s a problem since u would need to hold a stock for a damn long ass time for compounding dividend which would be the same as putting money in EPF and waiting till 55 or 65
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I would say, don't sai lang all surplus cash into ONE source of place to generate passive returns....this is especially important if it has lock in period. As this would lock your much needed cash in times of needs,....like during lost of jobs, failing business and etc etc...
just have it moderately, have some of it here and there.....
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QUOTE(ywliang96 @ Jan 10 2020, 09:49 AM)
This is just like saying “EPF will bankrupt”. Fairly certain everyone will get their money when they reached a certain age (be it 55 or even 65).

The main purpose of EPF is compounding interest no? Honestly I don’t see how that’s a problem since u would need to hold a stock for a damn long ass time for compounding dividend which would be the same as putting money in EPF and waiting till 55 or 65
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This is not saying EPF will bankrupt.. if EPF bankrupt, then stocks in Malaysia will be much worse.

The diff between holding stocks vs EPF is liquidity.. in times of need , you have access to funds immediately ..

An extreme example is if you are dying in a years time , u can liquidate your stocks and spend the money the way u want ... not with EPF, it will be locked up and then your beneficiary can spend..

A less extreme example ... 10 years down the road.. u want to migrate... and u need money etc etc...

Basically, u are saying u want to earn extra 2% for giving out a 30 year loan...this loan cannot be terminated prematurely ..

And, even the extra 2% is debatable .... stocks might be able to earn 10% quite easily Over the long term... so, you end up locking yourself up and earn less.... not saying stocks will do better ... but there is a chance it will do better than 6%
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 10 2020, 08:10 AM)
I see some of you put in the annual limit of RM60k self contribution.... why would you lock up the funds till age 55??? Even though the return is high...
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I do the 60k self contribution because of diversification. I have some money in KLSE, FD, bonds and bank structured products.

I tried ASNB FP funds, entering captca is a pain in the butt. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(donhay @ Jan 10 2020, 10:25 AM)
I do the 60k self contribution because of diversification. I have some money in KLSE, FD, bonds and bank structured products.

I tried ASNB FP funds, entering captca is a pain in the butt.  tongue.gif
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Diversification is ok I guess but not too much cos employees are naturally contributing already.
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Liquidity is no problem. Am at a level where xx amount above base level, can be withdrawn anytime. As long as they dont change the rules😂

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Liquidity is no problem. Am at a level where xx amount above base level, can be withdrawn anytime. As long as they dont change the rules😂
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Hi all,

I self-contributed to EPF a few days ago (in year 2020) but the money did not appear in my account after 2-3 days. In fact, upon login to i-akuan, only my account balance till 31 Dec 2019 appears.

If I click on the My Account tab, the contribution for 2020 is unavailable.

Can anyone who contributed early this year confirm this? Thanks
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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 10 2020, 10:10 AM)
This is not saying EPF will bankrupt.. if EPF bankrupt, then stocks in Malaysia will be much worse.

The diff between holding stocks vs EPF is liquidity.. in times of need , you have access to funds immediately ..

An extreme example is if you are dying in a years time , u can liquidate your stocks and spend the money the way u want ... not with EPF, it will be locked up and then your beneficiary can spend..

A less extreme example ... 10 years down the road.. u want to migrate... and u need money etc etc...

Basically, u are saying u want to earn extra 2% for giving out a 30 year loan...this loan cannot be terminated prematurely ..

And, even the extra 2% is debatable .... stocks might be able to earn 10% quite easily Over the long term... so, you end up locking yourself up and earn less.... not saying stocks will do better ... but there is a chance it will do better than 6%
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Give up MY citizenship, get new country citizenship, show to EPF that you surrendered M'sian citizenship, and EPF will lump sum give back to you (of course within reasonable processing time of weeks/months). No age restriction.
I have friends who migrated and withdraw all. Some still curi curi leave in EPF to compound interest.

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Give up MY citizenship, get new country citizenship, show to EPF that you surrendered M'sian citizenship, and EPF will lump sum give back to you (of course within reasonable processing time of weeks/months). No age restriction.
I have friends who migrated and withdraw all. Some still curi curi leave in EPF to compound interest.
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Lol.. nobody is giving up Malaysian citizenship..if take PR only then cannot withdraw ... money stuck
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Hi all,

I self-contributed to EPF a few days ago (in year 2020) but the money did not appear in my account after 2-3 days. In fact, upon login to i-akuan, only my account balance till 31 Dec 2019 appears.

If I click on the My Account tab, the contribution for 2020 is unavailable.

Can anyone who contributed early this year confirm this? Thanks
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login to kwsp, and check the "Withdrawal Eligibility". The Total Account Balance should reflect the actual balance, ie inclusive of your Jan's contribution.

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QUOTE(aspartame @ Jan 10 2020, 01:06 PM)
Lol.. nobody is giving up Malaysian citizenship..if take PR only then cannot withdraw ... money stuck
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Then, it is not called migration already rclxub.gif you should rephrase to work/stay at overseas for extended period of time.

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login to kwsp, and check the "Withdrawal Eligibility". The Total Account Balance should reflect the actual balance, ie inclusive of your Jan's contribution.
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can I ask....
can the contribution from the employee and employer that are deposited on 15 Jan be seen in that manner too after a few days, without having to wait till after dividend announcement?
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why worry about EPF going bankrupt? Due to our population demographic, EPF's aum kept on increasing by at least 10% per year, and mostly due to member's contribution.

Every employees contribute regardless of ethnicity, age, gender, etc. So if anything happens, gov will pump money. Just like TH and kwap. why worry.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 10 2020, 01:16 PM)
why worry about EPF going bankrupt? Due to our population demographic, EPF's aum kept on increasing by at least 10% per year, and mostly due to member's contribution.

Every employees contribute regardless of ethnicity, age, gender, etc.  So if anything happens, gov will pump money. Just like TH and kwap. why worry.
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Why u worry EPF bankrupt?
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can I ask....
can the contribution from the employee and employer that are deposited on 15 Jan be seen in that manner too after a few days, without having to wait till after dividend announcement?
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Yes and No. If your firm's HR processed it exactly on 15 Jan (and not like batch it to some later date), then yes it can be seen.

The issue is when HR pay salary for say Jan, and claimed it is 15 Jan payment (i guess due to CNY), your net salary into your salary bank account may appear on 15 Jan. But your HR may choose to do the payment to EPF on Feb 10.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Jan 10 2020, 01:14 PM)
Then, it is not called migration already rclxub.gif you should rephrase to work/stay at overseas for extended period of time.
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Migration with PR also migration what....

If you say extended stay/work overseas also face the same problem of not being able to withdraw from EPF if you need the money to start life overseas
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 10 2020, 01:18 PM)
Yes and No. If your firm's HR processed it exactly on 15 Jan (and not like batch it to some later date), then yes it can be seen.

The issue is when HR pay salary for say Jan, and claimed it is 15 Jan payment (i guess due to CNY), your net salary into your salary bank account may appear on 15 Jan. But your HR may choose to do the payment to EPF on Feb 10.
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what if they paid the end Dec salary on 31 Dec but EPF deducted from the 31 Dec salary, but paid/submit contribution on 15 Jan....will that EPF contribution be shown in the "withdrawal eligibility" method too...(maybe on 18 Jan)?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 10 2020, 01:22 PM)
what if they paid the end Dec salary on 31 Dec but EPF deducted from the 31 Dec salary, but paid/submit contribution on 15 Jan....will that EPF contribution be shown in the "withdrawal eligibility" method too...(maybe on 18 Jan)?
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this one yes. it should appear. At least it did in previous years when I checked.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 10 2020, 01:30 PM)
this one yes. it should appear. At least it did in previous years when I checked.
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QUOTE(mavistan89 @ Jan 3 2020, 06:12 PM)
Yes, the self contribution and deduction for January2020 will only be seen after dividend is released.
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 10 2020, 01:12 PM)
login to kwsp, and check the "Withdrawal Eligibility". The Total Account Balance should reflect the actual balance, ie inclusive of your Jan's contribution.
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This is not saying EPF will bankrupt.. if EPF bankrupt, then stocks in Malaysia will be much worse.

The diff between holding stocks vs EPF is liquidity.. in times of need , you have access to funds immediately ..

An extreme example is if you are dying in a years time , u can liquidate your stocks and spend the money the way u want ... not with EPF, it will be locked up and then your beneficiary can spend..

A less extreme example ... 10 years down the road.. u want to migrate... and u need money etc etc...

Basically, u are saying u want to earn extra 2% for giving out a 30 year loan...this loan cannot be terminated prematurely ..

And, even the extra 2% is debatable .... stocks might be able to earn 10% quite easily Over the long term... so, you end up locking yourself up and earn less.... not saying stocks will do better ... but there is a chance it will do better than 6%
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but if we ever plan to migrate, I do believe we can withdraw our funds completely.

I’m a stocks holder and a EPF contribution. I think doing both is the best of both worlds haha
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but if we ever plan to migrate, I do believe we can withdraw our funds completely.

I’m a stocks holder and a EPF contribution. I think doing both is the best of both worlds haha
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Migrate but still maintain citizenship la...if u give up citizenship then u can withdraw... but it is foolish to do so..
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QUOTE(Wedchar2912 @ Jan 10 2020, 01:12 PM)
login to kwsp, and check the "Withdrawal Eligibility". The Total Account Balance should reflect the actual balance, ie inclusive of your Jan's contribution.
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Thanks, I can confirm that is the right amount. Makes me wonder why EPF don't update the main page figures immediately but only the figures buried after accessing a few tabs and buttons.
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what is the "last" date to put in, to be eligible for the FULL Jan dividend calculation?
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Official responses from EPF :

1. the dividend calculation for the contribution is based on one day for the contribution month.<snipped>
Thus, if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute any day in December 2019.

2. Kindly be informed, any contribution payment made via electronic payment methods will be processed by the bank within three working days from date of payment. The Bank Website payment status will then be updated in the EPF system within the period.

So there is no definite answer to your question. From my experience with Public Bank, 2019, Day 1 pay EPF, Day 3 reflected on EPF online as Day 2.

I just repeated this yesterday, Jan 30 (Day 1). Will know after 2020 contributions are reflected, which is after dividend day, or maybe I can use the trick below on Feb 1. If there's any delay, I lose 1 month dividend.

QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 10 2020, 02:58 PM)
Thanks, I can confirm that is the right amount. Makes me wonder why EPF don't update the main page figures immediately but only the figures buried after accessing a few tabs and buttons.
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Because it's waiting for the 2019 dividend.

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jan 31 2020, 03:31 AM)
Official responses from EPF :

1. the dividend calculation for the contribution is based on one day for the contribution month.<snipped>
Thus, if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute any day in December 2019.

2. Kindly be informed, any contribution payment made via electronic payment methods will be processed by the bank within three working days from date of payment. The Bank Website payment status will then be updated in the EPF system within the period.

So there is no definite answer to your question. From my experience with Public Bank, 2019, Day 1 pay EPF, Day 3 reflected on EPF online as Day 2.

I just repeated this yesterday, Jan 30 (Day 1). Will know after 2020 contributions are reflected, which is after dividend day, or maybe I can use the trick below on Feb 1. If there's any delay, I lose 1 month dividend.
Because it's waiting for the 2019 dividend.
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thumbsup.gif thanks for getting the EPF's reply...
so if the contribution is "late" to enter EPF and assumed to be in EPF on 2 Jan,......then it will be pro rated (less 1 day) of the whole year dividend?
so assuming RM60k lump sum "late" at 6% = 3600/365 = approximately RM9.80 less for each 1 day late?
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thumbsup.gif thanks for getting the EPF's reply...
so if the contribution is "late" to enter EPF and assumed to be in EPF on 2 Jan,......then it will be pro rated (less 1 day) of the whole year dividend?
so assuming RM60k lump sum "late" at 6%  = 3600/365 = approximately RM9.80 less for each 1 day late?
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oh no worries. I asked this a few months ago.

If Jan 1 in, you only get 1 day for Jan's dividend. no pro-rates. pro-rate is for withdrawals. Jan 2, 3. 4, etc all get same amount of dividend for Jan, i.e. 1 day only

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oh no worries. I asked this a few months ago.

If Jan 1 in, you only get 1 day for Jan's dividend. no pro-rates. pro-rate is for withdrawals. Jan 2, 3. 4, etc all get same amount of dividend for Jan, i.e. 1 day only
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thumbsup.gif notworthy.gif thanks for pointing out.
will have to keep this in my mind.
I will only get 1 day of dividend payment for that month, no matter when the new contributed money is in the EPF for that month....no pro prorate benefits for contribution.
Only withdrawal date variance will have the pro rate benefits.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 31 2020, 11:27 AM)
thumbsup.gif  notworthy.gif thanks for pointing out.
will have to keep this in my mind.
I will only get 1 day of dividend payment for that month, no matter when the new contributed money is in the EPF for that month....no pro prorate  benefits for contribution.
Only withdrawal date variance will have the pro rate benefits.
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no worries.

I used Wedchar2912 method, my deposit yesterday already reflected under Withdrawal Eligibility already. Afternoon check still not reflected.

QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Jan 9 2020, 08:42 PM)
I'm not talking about upgrading the whole system. Im talking about designing a webpage that able to accept payment gateway such as fpx etc. You can check the iwk website how many types of payment they accept.

You talk about current channels are sufficient but do you actually know how many local banks that can make EPF self contributions? Do you think it's really sufficient?
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If you're employer, you can deposit with FPX. Personally, I think they are limiting the options for non-statutory deposits because their fund size is too big. They provide you options to buy trust funds etc to reduce their load.

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jan 31 2020, 03:31 AM)
Official responses from EPF :

1. the dividend calculation for the contribution is based on one day for the contribution month.<snipped>
Thus, if you wish to get dividend for 2020, you may contribute any day in December 2019.

2. Kindly be informed, any contribution payment made via electronic payment methods will be processed by the bank within three working days from date of payment. The Bank Website payment status will then be updated in the EPF system within the period.

So there is no definite answer to your question. From my experience with Public Bank, 2019, Day 1 pay EPF, Day 3 reflected on EPF online as Day 2.

I just repeated this yesterday, Jan 30 (Day 1). Will know after 2020 contributions are reflected, which is after dividend day, or maybe I can use the trick below on Feb 1. If there's any delay, I lose 1 month dividend.
Because it's waiting for the 2019 dividend.
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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Jan 31 2020, 10:30 AM)
oh no worries. I asked this a few months ago.

If Jan 1 in, you only get 1 day for Jan's dividend. no pro-rates. pro-rate is for withdrawals. Jan 2, 3. 4, etc all get same amount of dividend for Jan, i.e. 1 day only
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Precious info. Thanks a lot. So, it will be better to deposit (self-contribute) towards the end of the month rather than at the beginning since I can park my money in a money market fund to earn extra interest, right?

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Thanks for replying me at 4 a.m. in the morning. tongue.gif
Precious info. Thanks a lot. So, it will be better to deposit (self-contribute) towards the end of the month rather than at the beginning since I can park my money in a money market fund to earn extra interest, right?
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No problem. Was searching for some earlier posts and saw your post.

I guess so. at least, don't contribute too early.
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No problem. Was searching for some earlier posts and saw your post.

I guess so. at least, don't contribute too early.
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But if this is the case, wouldn't EPF expect sudden surge in inflow of cash towards the end of the month? If they want to make their cash flow smoother, I guess a daily accrued compounding interest dividend calculation would help. That way, people would contribute only when they feel they have to but not "stockpile" the cash and only release them to EPF at the end of the month.

Maybe the calculation is too tedious for them. tongue.gif

So, for ASNB FP fund it is the first day of each month for extra one month dividend, whereas for EPF it is towards the end of the month. Well timing indeed.
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But if this is the case, wouldn't EPF expect sudden surge in inflow of cash towards the end of the month? If they want to make their cash flow smoother, I guess a daily accrued compounding interest dividend calculation would help. That way, people would contribute only when they feel they have to but not "stockpile" the cash and only release them to EPF at the end of the month.

Maybe the calculation is too tedious for them. tongue.gif

So, for ASNB FP fund it is the first day of each month for extra one month dividend, whereas for EPF it is towards the end of the month. Well timing indeed.
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Not many would self contribute to get their money locked for years, so the time of deposit doesn't really matter for now. Employers don't care since it's not their money.

Not really extra month. They differ by 1 day only. Just think this way - some companies pay salary on last week of the month. Dump salary into EPF or ASN, you still get the same number of months. There is only difference if a company pay salary on last day of the month.

On the other hand, when you withdraw, you get prorated until the day before you withdraw from EPF and don't have to spend hours to hunt for units.


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Millions of Malaysian highway users started to enjoy an 18% reduced toll rates starting Saturday (Feb 1)

Millions of new Malaysian EPF depositors started to enjoy lower earnings from PLUS starting Saturday (Feb 1)

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QUOTE(beLIEve @ Feb 1 2020, 12:00 PM)
Not many would self contribute to get their money locked for years, so the time of deposit doesn't really matter for now. Employers don't care since it's not their money.

Not really extra month. They differ by 1 day only. Just think this way - some companies pay salary on last week of the month. Dump salary into EPF or ASN, you still get the same number of months. There is only difference if a company pay salary on last day of the month.

On the other hand, when you withdraw, you get prorated until the day before you withdraw from EPF and don't have to spend hours to hunt for units.
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Hello, can i create an epf account myself? (am a freelance for a long time)

What are the benefit of epf when self contributing?

Are there any other better way to "self contribute" (dunno better wording; for enjoying dividend or even just for saving that grows) other than epf (employed/freelance)?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(VannM @ Feb 1 2020, 02:00 PM)
Hello, can i create an epf account myself? (am a freelance for a long time)

What are the benefit of epf when self contributing?

Are there any other better way to "self contribute" (dunno better wording; for enjoying dividend or even just for saving that grows) other than epf (employed/freelance)?

Thanks!
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Yes, I self-contribute under the i-saraan scheme. You can read up on the different ways to self-contribute at the link below.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/contribution/i-saraan

i-saraan was meant for those who are self-employeed, including freelancer. One of the main perks is the 15% bonus (up to 250 MYR) given by the government till 2022 for those who contributed under the i-saraan scheme.

As for other ways to self-contribute, I can think of PRS (Private Retirement Schemes) and your own investment across various asset classes through different means such as unit trusts, ASNB fixed price funds, or direct exposure to stock, bonds or derivative products. Other gurus will be able to provide more info on the relevant investment products available out there.

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QUOTE(Feb 1 2020 @ 12:50 PM)
Millions of Malaysian highway users started to enjoy an 18% reduced toll rates starting Saturday (Feb 1)
QUOTE(beLIEve @ Feb 1 2020, 12:50 PM)
Millions of new Malaysian EPF depositors started to enjoy lower earnings from PLUS starting Saturday (Feb 1)
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interesting concerns,....thus I googled and found this....

‘PLUS concession restructuring entails RM7.5b securitisation’

"To make up for the shortfall of toll collection from the 18% rate cut, the government will step in to guarantee the concessionaire’s debts amounting to approximately RM22 billion, on top of RM13 billion that it has already guaranteed.

The government’s fresh guarantee will help PLUS to reduce borrowing costs as well as enable it to free up cash that is required to maintain PLUS’ AAA bond rating.

........A source noted that this structure saves the government billions on compensation.
The restructuring exercise also allows the authorities to cut toll rates without breaching its covenant with bondholders. Should the annual traffic growth exceed 1%, being the SPV owner, the government will gain from the additional toll collection.
With the extra money, the government will have the option to either reduce toll rate further or shorten the concession period".
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/plus...-securitisation

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The government’s fresh guarantee will help PLUS to reduce borrowing costs as well as enable it to free up cash that is required to maintain PLUS’ AAA bond rating.

........A source noted that this structure saves the government billions on compensation.
The restructuring exercise also allows the authorities to cut toll rates without breaching its covenant with bondholders. Should the annual traffic growth exceed 1%, being the SPV owner, the government will gain from the additional toll collection.
With the extra money, the government will have the option to either reduce toll rate further or shorten the concession period".
https://www.theedgemarkets.com/article/plus...-securitisation
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First paragraph - reduced borrowing cost higher or lower than 18% tol income?

Second paragraph - maybe it will benefit EPF. not an expert, but a lot of projections in old and new Malaysia are off by a whole lot.
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QUOTE(donhay @ Mar 6 2019, 11:08 AM)
I self contribution my epf through maybank2u yesterday.

Today it's still not shown the amount in kwsp online.

May I know when will it shown in my kwsp online? Thanks
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Do we need to fill up any form for self-contribution or top-up?
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Do we need to fill up any form for self-contribution or top-up?
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QUOTE(donhay @ Mar 6 2019, 11:08 AM)
I self contribution my epf through maybank2u yesterday.

Today it's still not shown the amount in kwsp online.

May I know when will it shown in my kwsp online? Thanks
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may i know how long u wait? i wait for 5 working days still not yet show up in my epf account
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may i know how long u wait? i wait for 5 working days still not yet show up in my epf account
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u need to wait till epf declare dividend then it will show online

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u need to wait till epf declare dividend then it will show online
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Same as epf reply me through email. Send an enquiry, received reply within 15 mins. Super fast.
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When will the 15% insentive of i-saraan be credited to the account?



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How does the government credit the contribution to member’s account?
The EPF will routinely make government contribution claims based on accumulated contribution for the first (January to June) and second (July to December) halves of the year.
Upon receiving the contribution payment from the government, the amount will be credited into members' Account 1 (Retirement Account).
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/i-saraan
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When will the 15% insentive of i-saraan be credited to the account?
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Last year I got it in Aug

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u need to wait till epf declare dividend then it will show online
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Just login to epf online and look at the withdrawal eligibility... you will find your actual amount from there instead of wait till declare dividend
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QUOTE(VannM @ Feb 1 2020, 02:00 PM)
Hello, can i create an epf account myself? (am a freelance for a long time)

What are the benefit of epf when self contributing?

Are there any other better way to "self contribute" (dunno better wording; for enjoying dividend or even just for saving that grows) other than epf (employed/freelance)?

Thanks!
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For self contribution, bear in mind that you can only take it out when you age till 55. The money going to stuck there till you reach the retiring age. Unless you really have extra money, then can self contribute.. max rm60k per year.

I tried equity, didnt monitor much n got burnt, i pump some PRS just to reduce income tax but the PRS going stuck there till 55 n return juat maybe 3-4% pa... UT tried that, also maybe 5% return but will up n down.. still hv risk.. very much depend timing..

Well, i prefer self cobtribute epf to top up my salary monthly contribution, as long as you pump it till more than 1mil, then the self contribution is like different game means you can treat it like a safe no risk good return.

Anyway, just my view
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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Feb 14 2020, 12:10 AM)
For self contribution, bear in mind that you can only take it out when you age till 55. The money going to stuck there till you reach the retiring age. Unless you really have extra money, then can self contribute.. max rm60k per year.

I tried equity, didnt monitor much n got burnt, i pump some PRS just to reduce income tax but the PRS going stuck there till 55 n return juat maybe 3-4% pa... UT  tried that, also maybe 5% return but will up n down.. still hv risk.. very much depend timing..

Well, i prefer self cobtribute epf to top up my salary monthly contribution, as long as you pump it till more than 1mil, then the self contribution is like different game  means you can treat it like a safe no risk good return.

Anyway, just my view
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i have been doing self contribution also... for the same reason... of cos i have UT and equity as well... but cannot beat EPF performance and stability so far...
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guys.. am contemplating to switch my monthly saving to ASNB into EPF (self contribution)

for easy reference.. say my current EPF is 100k and ASNB is 20k.. lets assume return from both EPF and ASNB is about 5% going forward

and because my EPF fund is higher than ASNB, does it make sense to grow my EPF fund through monthly contribution to maximise the compounding effect?

my understanding is that by switching, the compounding effect can be realise sooner when compare to ASNB where i have to slowly build up from the 20k (and its hard due to the unavailability of units when u want to buy)
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Feb 19 2020, 11:08 AM)
guys.. am contemplating to switch my monthly saving to ASNB into EPF (self contribution)

for easy reference.. say my current EPF is 100k and ASNB is 20k.. lets assume return from both EPF and ASNB is about 5% going forward

and because my EPF fund is higher than ASNB, does it make sense to grow my EPF fund through monthly contribution to maximise the compounding effect?

my understanding is that by switching, the compounding effect can be realise sooner when compare to ASNB where i have to slowly build up from the 20k (and its hard due to the unavailability of units when u want to buy)
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the EPF will have lock in period...

try to think of it as How much $$ you have now....the compounding effect will be based on the rate of returns X number of years
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 19 2020, 11:23 AM)
the EPF will have lock in period...

try to think of it as How much $$ you have now....the compounding effect will be based on the rate of returns X number of years
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understand with the lock-in for EPF..

i should mention too this is for long term..

would assume by adding cash into 100k can build-up the fund faster through compounding interest when compare to adding cash to 20K?


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QUOTE(jas029 @ Feb 19 2020, 11:46 AM)
understand with the lock-in for EPF..

i should mention too this is for long term..

would assume by adding cash into 100k can build-up the fund faster through compounding interest when compare to  adding cash to 20K?
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just ensure you have enough cash flow for other needs while money in EPF are locked away.

Your Question:
would assume by adding cash into 100k can build-up the fund faster through compounding interest when compare to adding cash to 20K?
if both samples have RM20K at start, for A & B
if you add in RM100k into A, then you will have RM120k x 5% pa X 20 yrs
if you add in RM20k into B, then you will have RM40k X 5% pa X 20 yrs

so which one will have more money in the end?...is this the query you asked?
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Feb 19 2020, 11:52 AM)
just ensure you have enough cash flow for other needs while money in EPF are locked away.

Your Question:
would assume by adding cash into 100k can build-up the fund faster through compounding interest when compare to  adding cash to 20K?
if both samples have RM20K at start, for A & B
if you add in RM100k into A, then you will have RM120k x 5% pa X 20 yrs
if you add in RM20k into B, then you will have RM40k X 5% pa X 20 yrs

so which one will have more money in the end?...is this the query you asked?
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pardon for the confusion..

i should re-phrase as follow..

if i have 100k in epf to begin with.. and i self contribute 500 every month starting from now for 20 years.. at 5%, i should have more money than if i were to do it with ASNB right? ASNB is only 20k now to begin with
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Feb 19 2020, 01:44 PM)
pardon for the confusion..

i should re-phrase as follow..

if i have 100k in epf to begin with.. and i self contribute 500 every month starting from now for 20 years.. at 5%, i should have more money than if i were to do it with ASNB right? ASNB is only 20k now to begin with
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the number of 100k vs 20k variance is too big....
PLUS you add RM500 pm into EPF....
uneducated guess winner is clear...EPF will has more money 20 yrs later
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QUOTE(jas029 @ Feb 19 2020, 01:44 PM)
pardon for the confusion..

i should re-phrase as follow..

if i have 100k in epf to begin with.. and i self contribute 500 every month starting from now for 20 years.. at 5%, i should have more money than if i were to do it with ASNB right? ASNB is only 20k now to begin with
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surely EPF will be better instrument to grow your money.

on the assumption , the interest rate for both are the same.

because u are starting off much higher amount and it compounds.

just as per others mentioned, you will not be able to withdraw.
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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 19 2020, 01:49 PM)
the number of 100k vs 20k variance is too big....
PLUS you add RM500 pm into EPF....
uneducated guess winner is clear...EPF will has more money 20 yrs later
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thanks

the big variance is the caused to my confusion.. if it were 100k epf vs 100k asnb, i wouldnt be asking the question in the first place

QUOTE(PrincZe @ Feb 19 2020, 02:05 PM)
surely EPF will be better instrument to grow your money.

on the assumption , the interest rate for both are the same.

because u are starting off much higher amount and it compounds.

just as per others mentioned, you will not be able to withdraw.
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u answer exactly to my query
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thanks

the big variance is the caused to my confusion.. if it were 100k epf vs 100k asnb, i wouldnt be asking the question in the first place
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even if there is NO variance...
and because your ASNB rate is NOT much variance with the EPF rate thus if you keep on putting money inside EPF at a rate of RM500pm....(1yr = RM6000) X 20 years = RM120000 extra in EPF over the ASNB....excluding compounded interest.


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For self contribution, bear in mind that you can only take it out when you age till 55. The money going to stuck there till you reach the retiring age. Unless you really have extra money, then can self contribute.. max rm60k per year.

I tried equity, didnt monitor much n got burnt, i pump some PRS just to reduce income tax but the PRS going stuck there till 55 n return juat maybe 3-4% pa... UT  tried that, also maybe 5% return but will up n down.. still hv risk.. very much depend timing..

Well, i prefer self cobtribute epf to top up my salary monthly contribution, as long as you pump it till more than 1mil, then the self contribution is like different game  means you can treat it like a safe no risk good return.

Anyway, just my view
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QUOTE(PrincZe @ Feb 19 2020, 02:05 PM)
surely EPF will be better instrument to grow your money.

on the assumption , the interest rate for both are the same.

because u are starting off much higher amount and it compounds.

just as per others mentioned, you will not be able to withdraw.
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if epf is > rm1 mil, the extra money can be withdrawn at any time correct ?

btw...rm60k self contribution, what is the ratio for account 1 and 2 ?
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a quick check...self contribution to EPF remains at RM5000 x 12 = RM60k per annum ??????? Thanks in advance
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sifus sekalian...

need some help, i did a test rm10 top-up with cimbclicks last thursday...

but today i login to kwsp...the detail summary is not showing that rm10 top-up...can advise ?

thnx
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sifus sekalian...

need some help, i did a test rm10 top-up with cimbclicks last thursday...

but today i login to kwsp...the detail summary is not showing that rm10 top-up...can advise ?

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It takes 2 working days to appear in your account. Try checking tomorrow.
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It takes 2 working days to appear in your account. Try checking tomorrow.
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actually the top-up was done on last wednesday...already been 2 working days

lemme check epf account again tomorrow...
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Yes, I self-contribute under the i-saraan scheme. You can read up on the different ways to self-contribute at the link below.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/en/member/contribution/i-saraan

i-saraan was meant for those who are self-employeed, including freelancer. One of the main perks is the 15% bonus (up to 250 MYR) given by the government till 2022 for those who contributed under the i-saraan scheme.

As for other ways to self-contribute, I can think of PRS (Private Retirement Schemes) and your own investment across various asset classes through different means such as unit trusts, ASNB fixed price funds, or direct exposure to stock, bonds or derivative products. Other gurus will be able to provide more info on the relevant investment products available out there.
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Hi there,

Can I check with the gurus here, this i-sarran needs to be registered? Currently I have an EPF account which I have not used for the last 10 years. If I can do internet banking transfer to EPF with options to i-saraan (eg Maybank), do I still need to print out the form to submit to KWSP office?

Alternatively if I already have EPF account, I do not have to register or submit any forms if I do normal self contribution to EPF via online banking. Am I right? Thanks.

Seems like putting in 60k at end Jan would be the best to get div... Hope I am right.

ps: just checked. Seems CIMB click only allows you to transfer money to EPF account based on Account number. Unless this i-saraan scheme has a different account number?

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Hi there,

Can I check with the gurus here, this i-sarran needs to be registered? Currently I have an EPF account which I have not used for the last 10 years. If I can do internet banking transfer to EPF with options to i-saraan (eg Maybank), do I still need to print out the form to submit to KWSP office?
Read post 128, page 7 by cybpsych...

Alternatively if I already have EPF account, I do not have to register or submit any forms if I do normal self contribution to EPF via online banking. Am I right? Thanks.
Read post 128, page 7 by cybpsych...

Seems like putting in 60k at end Jan would be the best to get div... Hope I am right.
YES, but if you want to get the full year dividend, then end Dec would be best for NEXT year's dividend
btw, you don't need 60k to get the max from the I-saraan benefits.

ps: just checked. Seems CIMB click only allows you to transfer money to EPF account based on Account number. Unless this i-saraan scheme has a different account number?
read post 135, page 7 by birdman8,  
is there a selection in CIMB as in Maybank's as shown in that post for you to choose?

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actually the top-up was done on last wednesday...already been 2 working days

lemme check epf account again tomorrow...
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hhm...i the top-up still not reflected on my account today......

so i sent an enquiry form to EPF...hopefully will get answer soon
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I, on the other hand, got more money than calculated using the EPF calculator! So, sent an email to them to ask for correct computations of dividend.

Ok, KLCI dropped more than 40 points now, below 1490.

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Hi there,

Can I check with the gurus here, this i-sarran needs to be registered? Currently I have an EPF account which I have not used for the last 10 years. If I can do internet banking transfer to EPF with options to i-saraan (eg Maybank), do I still need to print out the form to submit to KWSP office?

Alternatively if I already have EPF account, I do not have to register or submit any forms if I do normal self contribution to EPF via online banking. Am I right? Thanks.

Seems like putting in 60k at end Jan would be the best to get div... Hope I am right.

ps: just checked. Seems CIMB click only allows you to transfer money to EPF account based on Account number. Unless this i-saraan scheme has a different account number?
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Thanks MUM for pointing out. But just to be sure, I did read all 16 pages before posting. The post 128 I think only applies to online transfer.

Anyway I just called up EPF and got the answers.

Not sure why so much calculation on the way dividend/interest works in this forum. Like if I deposit 5th Mar, I will only get dividend from April onwards etc. Maybe I interpreted the posts wrongly. According to the agent I spoke to, interests are calculated daily. So it doesn't matter which day I put in, it will start calculating interest after my i-akuan reflects the amount in.

1. For i-saraan, you have to go to EPF counter to register first and need to wait until it takes effect (5 to 6 working days). Put in 1800 and you will get the govt 250 max. If you never register and try to do online transfer over, according to the agent it will still be put into the i-saraan account 1 but govt will not give you the 15%. A bit troublesome but now still left 3 years unless govt change it again.

2. Only certain banks allow i-saraan online transfer. You can technically do a self contribution of 58k conventional and 2k i-saraan (after register and approval) to get the govt 15%.

All in all quite troublesome, you still need to go down to epf to do this, but 3 years of rm750. Hope this makes sense.
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QUOTE(joeblow @ Feb 24 2020, 03:49 PM)
Not sure why so much calculation on the way dividend/interest works in this forum. Like if I deposit 5th Mar, I will only get dividend from April onwards etc. Maybe I interpreted the posts wrongly. According to the agent I spoke to, interests are calculated daily. So it doesn't matter which day I put in, it will start calculating interest after my i-akuan reflects the amount in.

1. For i-saraan, you have to go to EPF counter to register first and need to wait until it takes effect (5 to 6 working days). Put in 1800 and you will get the govt 250 max. If you never register and try to do online transfer over, according to the agent it will still be put into the i-saraan account 1 but govt will not give you the 15%. A bit troublesome but now still left 3 years unless govt change it again.

2. Only certain banks allow i-saraan online transfer. You can technically do a self contribution of 58k conventional and 2k i-saraan (after register and approval) to get the govt 15%.

All in all quite troublesome, you still need to go down to epf to do this, but 3 years of rm750. Hope this makes sense.
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For dividend calculations, I suspect that the calculations of dividends for i-saraan members are different from those calculated through online calculators. Not sure if you can verify this, but I have emailed EPF this afternoon to ask for a detailed explanation of dividend calculations.

By the way, "Like if I deposit 5th Mar, I will only get dividend from April onwards etc." this is indeed what online EPF calculators do, and I also get the same answer when I calculate according to this formula manually. But for my case, I got more dividend instead.

As for days to wait till it takes effect, I think it is not as long as 5-6 working days. For my case, if memory serves, it can be done within 24 hours (just wait for the system to update overnight). Actually, just contribute 1667 will do, no need to contribute more than that amount if your aim is the 250 government incentive.

3 year 750 is worthwhile for me, after deducting transportation cost, and some waiting time to subscribe to i-saraan. (Maybe my house is near to an EPF office.) tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 24 2020, 01:51 PM)
hhm...i the top-up still not reflected on my account today......

so i sent an enquiry form to EPF...hopefully will get answer soon
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last time i deposit 10k . from maybank. took 3 working days to reflect in epf account
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sorry if this Q's were raised before.

1. For self contribution, is it parked under account 1, 2 or spread as per the standard ratio (70/30)?

2. Withdrawal from contributors who has more than RM1mil, withdrawal is from which account? Again account 1, 2, or standard ratio applies?

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sorry if this Q's were raised before.

1. For self contribution, is it parked under account 1, 2 or spread as per the standard ratio (70/30)?

2. Withdrawal from contributors who has more than RM1mil, withdrawal is from which account? Again account 1, 2, or standard ratio applies?

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1. Standard ratio.
2. Account 2.
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1. Standard ratio.
2. Account 2.
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but when i checked mine rm10 (test topup):
1. all under acc #2 (self)
2. acc #2 as well
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but when i checked mine rm10 (test topup):
1. all under acc #2 (self)
2. acc #2 as well
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u r lucky to get all in ac2 coz ac2 can get easier withdrawal.
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but when i checked mine rm10 (test topup):
1. all under acc #2 (self)
2. acc #2 as well
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QUOTE(bronkos @ Feb 26 2020, 05:30 PM)
u r lucky to get all in ac2 coz ac2 can get easier withdrawal.
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is there a way to withdraw monthly .....like salary ?
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is  there a way to withdraw monthly .....like salary ?
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Upon reaching age 55, our members officially enter retirement age.
After years of growing your retirement savings, you now have the choice of how you want to manage your retirement funds, either to make a full withdrawal or flexible withdrawal.

Monthly Payment Withdrawal
(Min. RM100/month or RM1,200/year for at least 12 months or until age 100)
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/full/age-55-60

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QUOTE(MUM @ Feb 26 2020, 06:54 PM)
Upon reaching age 55, our members officially enter retirement age.
After years of growing your retirement savings, you now have the choice of how you want to manage your retirement funds, either to make a full withdrawal or flexible withdrawal.

Monthly Payment Withdrawal
(Min. RM100/month or RM1,200/year for at least 12 months or until age 100)
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/full/age-55-60
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QUOTE(zapster79 @ Feb 26 2020, 03:50 PM)
1. Standard ratio.
2. Account 2.
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 26 2020, 05:29 PM)
but when i checked mine rm10 (test topup):
1. all under acc #2 (self)
2. acc #2 as well
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thanks for the replies.

so assuming if one does have more than RM1mil in epf, and he/she chooses to carry out self contribution of RM60k max, potential downside may be withdrawal of the self contribution amount may be capped to 30% of it in account 2 only if the self contribution is deposited and spread as per the ratio.
whatever self contribution that lands in account 1 will be permanent until the age limit is achieved, right?


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QUOTE(kochin @ Feb 27 2020, 08:13 AM)
thanks for the replies.

so assuming if one does have more than RM1mil in epf, and he/she chooses to carry out self contribution of RM60k max, potential downside may be withdrawal of the self contribution amount may be capped to 30% of it in account 2 only if the self contribution is deposited and spread as per the ratio.
whatever self contribution that lands in account 1 will be permanent until the age limit is achieved, right?
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i have yet to test with big amount self-contribution...will see what is the ratio

having said that, if you check under "withdrawal eligibility", it shows anything excess of 1 mil can be withdrawn, i.e regardless which account (1 or 2)...as long as it's extra money > 1 mil, it can be withdrawn at will (based on my understanding)

but i may be wrong...any sifu here has tried withdrawing the excess money > 1 mil ? issit only limited to acc #2 ?

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This is an old article which says that withdrawals will be made from Account 2 first, and once that is depleted, then only from Account 1.
https://www.theborneopost.com/2012/03/21/ho...an-rm1-million/

Some of the info here is outdated already, so not sure if it still holds true.

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If i am a employee with epf,
still can i still open i saraan and get 15%?
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If i am a employee with epf,
still can i still open i saraan and get 15%?
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while waiting for responses, you can try read page 7, post 135 by Birdman....
then read replies and counter posts following that discussions.

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If i am a employee with epf,
still can i still open i saraan and get 15%?
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dont think so..

saraan is only applicable for self-contributor
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while waiting for responses, you can try read page 7, post 135 by Birdman....
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Thks. I read already. He says cant..😥
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When will the 15% insentive of i-saraan be credited to the account?
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May-Jun19 contribution = 15% incentive bank in Oct 2019

Jul-Dec19 contribution = 15% incentive bank in Feb 2020.



Jan-Sep18 & Jan-Feb19 using CIMB, no 15% incentive bank in. Email complain.

EPF explain have to use MBB and PBB with the feature of i-Saraan contribution. Refer Page6 Post135 by birdman8 for the outlook.

CIMB at that point of my contribution did not have the selection of i-Saraan contribution.


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I would presume its not automatic that the EPF contribution will be reduced from 11% to 7%?
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I would presume its not automatic that the EPF contribution will be reduced from 11% to 7%?
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You need to submit a return form like previous 2 rounds.
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I would presume its not automatic that the EPF contribution will be reduced from 11% to 7%?
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QUOTE(kochin @ Feb 27 2020, 08:13 AM)
thanks for the replies.

so assuming if one does have more than RM1mil in epf, and he/she chooses to carry out self contribution of RM60k max, potential downside may be withdrawal of the self contribution amount may be capped to 30% of it in account 2 only if the self contribution is deposited and spread as per the ratio.
whatever self contribution that lands in account 1 will be permanent until the age limit is achieved, right?
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you can withdraw any amount that is above 1m
eg. acct 1 - 1.2m, acct 2 - 700k
you can withdraw 900k total
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QUOTE(kochin @ Feb 27 2020, 09:13 AM)
thanks for the replies.

so assuming if one does have more than RM1mil in epf, and he/she chooses to carry out self contribution of RM60k max, potential downside may be withdrawal of the self contribution amount may be capped to 30% of it in account 2 only if the self contribution is deposited and spread as per the ratio.
whatever self contribution that lands in account 1 will be permanent until the age limit is achieved, right?
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Any amount above rm1M can be withdrawn anytime. It doesnt matter whether its in acct 1 or acct 2. Probably
the funds will be drawn from acct 2 first followed up acct 2z
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QUOTE(bourse @ Mar 1 2020, 06:55 PM)
May-Jun19 contribution = 15% incentive bank in Oct 2019

Jul-Dec19 contribution = 15% incentive bank in Feb 2020.
Jan-Sep18 & Jan-Feb19 using CIMB, no 15% incentive bank in.  Email complain. 

EPF explain have to use MBB and PBB with the feature of i-Saraan contribution.  Refer Page6 Post135 by birdman8 for the outlook.

CIMB at that point of my contribution did not have the selection of i-Saraan contribution.
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Have you receive the incentive in Feb 2020?
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Jul-Dec19 contribution = 15% incentive bank in Feb 2020.
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Have you receive the incentive in Feb 2020?
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The incentive also calculate for dividend payment. double happy rclxm9.gif
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I like to ask to get the RM4k tax relief for income tax deduction, i need to put RM4k to self contribution EPF?
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I like to ask to get the RM4k tax relief for income tax deduction, i need to put RM4k to self contribution EPF?
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Are you still employed?
It covers self contribution too.
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 7 2020, 10:39 AM)
Are you still employed?
It covers self contribution too.
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Yes, employed.
So i need to like use M2U to place 4k self contribution in order to get the 4k relief?
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Yes, employed.
So i need to like use M2U to place 4k self contribution in order to get the 4k relief?
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Thus if Yr employee portion of the epf deduction is already 4k...you cannot get extra tax relief if you do self contribution.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 7 2020, 10:17 AM)
anyone knows what is the maximum limit if using Maybank payment into EPF? i asked them in FB, they say 15K per transaction but when I make the payment, it says my limit is 5K.
How to raise the limit? I look under payment limit but dont see anything relevant.
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may not answer your query, but hope that this would be just an added info to you and others

not sure about Maybank, but for PBB there is a forummer posted
"For self contribution, its possible to transfer RM60K one shot on PB e-banking."
"Using PBB ebanking, no security device.
For Rm60K one transaction, just using fone and TAC number."

if interested can check out more of his postings in
page 195, post 3900
page 196, post 3906, 3910
page 197, post 3929
EPF DIVIDEND, EPF
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461/+3900

thus if confirmed Maybank has limits of 5K, then maybe you can consider PBB online then?
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may not answer your query, but hope that this would be just an added info to you and others

not sure about Maybank, but for PBB there is a forummer posted
"For self contribution, its possible to transfer RM60K one shot on PB e-banking."
"Using PBB ebanking, no security device.
For Rm60K one transaction, just using fone and TAC number."

if interested can check out more of his postings in
page 195, post 3900
page 196, post 3906, 3910
page 197, post 3929
EPF DIVIDEND, EPF
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461/+3900

thus if confirmed Maybank has limits of 5K, then maybe you can consider PBB online then?
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 7 2020, 10:17 AM)
anyone knows what is the maximum limit if using Maybank payment into EPF? i asked them in FB, they say 15K per transaction but when I make the payment, it says my limit is 5K.
How to raise the limit? I look under payment limit but dont see anything relevant.
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Just make multiple 5k via M2U into EPF, can do multiple transactions in a single day.
Cannot raise limit, that is the max.
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 7 2020, 11:37 AM)
Just make multiple 5k via M2U into EPF, can do multiple transactions in a single day.
Cannot raise limit, that is the max.
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ah thats what i have been doing, multiples of 5K
thanks for letting me know, strange this maybank told me 15K limit
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QUOTE(cute_boboi @ Mar 7 2020, 11:37 AM)
Just make multiple 5k via M2U into EPF, can do multiple transactions in a single day.
Cannot raise limit, that is the max.
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 7 2020, 11:38 AM)
ah thats what i have been doing, multiples of 5K
thanks for letting me know, strange this maybank told me 15K limit
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just for knowledge.....
what is the max amount of times or & value can be made PER DAY?
is there a limits?
like max 10 times (transaction/transfers) or max RM100k ....in a single day?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 7 2020, 11:42 AM)
just for knowledge.....
what is the max amount of times or & value can be  made PER DAY?
is there a limits?
like max 10 times (transaction/transfers) or max RM100k ....in a single day?
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Max I have tried is 3x RM5k in a day from M2U into single EPF. Have not tried other options.
My assumption could be linked to your from-account transaction limit per day which could be 30k/50k?
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M2U (MBB) -> EPF rm20k 1 transaction is doable. Maybe need to set daily transaction threshold in MBB.
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I’ve transferred $60K in a single transaction from PBB e-banking to EPF for self-cuntribution. Works fine.
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Just curious, how well that u guys , the self-contributors have faith in epf since the fund is kinda locked down until 60 years old
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Just curious, how well that u guys , the self-contributors have faith in epf since the fund is kinda locked down until 60 years old
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some are >55 yrs old
some has extra cash,...sort of asset diversification
some just put a little extra % into it for retirement purpose, that amount put in does not affect their cash flow
some are near 50 yrs old, thus can take out 30% of it if and when needed at 50
etc, etc


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The lowest it can get is 2.5% plus if it goes bust, so as the government then.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 7 2020, 05:06 PM)
some are >55 yrs old
some has extra cash,...sort of asset diversification
some just put a little extra % into it for retirement purpose, that amount put in does not affect their cash flow
some are near 50 yrs old, thus can take out 30% of it if and when needed at 50
etc, etc
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Asset diversification is a good point there for younger ppl to self-contribute in this low risk investment tool

QUOTE(Cookie101 @ Mar 8 2020, 10:36 AM)
The lowest it can get is 2.5% plus if it goes bust, so as the government then.
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Legally, the EPF is only obligated to provide 2.5% dividends (as per Section 27 of the Employees Provident Fund Act 1991). The 2.5% is cited from her right.But i heard a few aunty, uncle very scared of government, can withdraw then fast fast withdraw. Is there any protecting mechanism like PIDM for FD or we solely trust the gov.
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QUOTE(akhito @ Mar 8 2020, 11:45 AM)
Asset diversification is a good point there for younger ppl to self-contribute in this low risk investment tool
Legally, the EPF is only obligated to provide 2.5% dividends (as per Section 27 of the Employees Provident Fund Act 1991). The 2.5% is cited from her right.But i heard a few aunty, uncle very scared of government, can withdraw then fast fast withdraw. Is there any protecting mechanism like PIDM for FD or we solely trust the gov.
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PIDM is a Government agency...
you trust PIDM and not trust the Govt?

https://www.pidm.gov.my/en/for-public/frequ...bout-pidm-faqs/


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EPF is protected by Employees Provident Fund Act 1991
Not safe enough?
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PIDM is a Government agency...
you trust PIDM and not trust the Govt?

https://www.pidm.gov.my/en/for-public/frequ...bout-pidm-faqs/
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 8 2020, 11:50 AM)
EPF is protected by Employees Provident Fund Act 1991
Not safe enough?
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Well, i just want to know how u guys thinks. If aunty uncle also think like, no ppl will panic withdraw ald. It is a fun thing to see different kind of opinion.
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Well, i just want to know how u guys thinks. If aunty uncle also think like, no ppl will panic withdraw ald. It is a fun thing to see different kind of opinion.
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QUOTE(akhito @ Mar 8 2020, 12:02 PM)
Well, i just want to know how u guys thinks. If aunty uncle also think like, no ppl will panic withdraw ald. It is a fun thing to see different kind of opinion.
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you dont have to wait till 60. 50 also can withdraw.
and the more you put, the faster you can withdraw, dont even have to wait till 50
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QUOTE(akhito @ Mar 8 2020, 12:02 PM)
Well, i just want to know how u guys thinks. If aunty uncle also think like, no ppl will panic withdraw ald. It is a fun thing to see different kind of opinion.
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aunties and uncles withdraw could not be due to panic only
aunties and uncles withdraw could be that they wanted to "enjoy" the fruits of their labour before the end of time
aunties and uncles withdraw could be they wanted to use that money to further the educations of their family members
aunties and uncles withdraw could be they wanted to move to a higher yielding instrument that they think could increase to ROI.
aunties and uncles withdraw could of many things other than "panic" only
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you dont have to wait till 60. 50 also can withdraw.
and the more you put, the faster you can withdraw, dont even have to wait till 50
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This is actually a sensible answer. Epf faster reach 1 million, the rest of compounding interest will be yours (freely withdrawable).

QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 8 2020, 12:09 PM)
aunties and uncles withdraw could not be due to panic only
aunties and uncles withdraw could be that they wanted to "enjoy" the fruits of their labour before the end of time
aunties and uncles withdraw could be they wanted to use that money to further the educations of their family members
aunties and uncles withdraw could be they wanted to move to a higher yielding instrument that they think could increase to ROI.
aunties and uncles withdraw could of many things other than "panic" only
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Well i am not talking about non-panic situation at all. I have seen one real case where my uncle say he could not trust the gov then take out put all fd, not to be spent and the answer to that behavior is as stated by forumer
QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Mar 8 2020, 12:03 PM)
If the government of the day is above the law, then you need to afraid.
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At least he had the that perception during that time.

Anyway guys thanks for the answers thumbsup.gif
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QUOTE(akhito @ Mar 8 2020, 11:45 AM)
Asset diversification is a good point there for younger ppl to self-contribute in this low risk investment tool
Legally, the EPF is only obligated to provide 2.5% dividends (as per Section 27 of the Employees Provident Fund Act 1991). The 2.5% is cited from her right.But i heard a few aunty, uncle very scared of government, can withdraw then fast fast withdraw. Is there any protecting mechanism like PIDM for FD or we solely trust the gov.
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That differentiates between fake news / panics / gossips with reality and substance.

Their money. Their choice.

That’s like how some perceived cc as debt while others look at them as free pocket money.

And u don’t trust government but pidm? That’s kinda funny lol

Insurance terms can change over time.


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QUOTE(akhito @ Mar 7 2020, 04:54 PM)
Just curious, how well that u guys , the self-contributors have faith in epf since the fund is kinda locked down until 60 years old
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force savings for those who cant discipline themselves which is good consider than epf declares reasonable rates, tax free and risk free.
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Just curious, how well that u guys , the self-contributors have faith in epf since the fund is kinda locked down until 60 years old
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I can't think of any investment vehicle which is risk free and gives consistent returns of more than 5% annually. Plus, majority of our savings are already in KWSP through our employment, and it's the easiest way to accumulate funds to reach RM1 million quickly. We are allowed to withdraw amounts in excess of RM1 million even before reaching 50 or 55 .
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QUOTE(idoblu @ Mar 7 2020, 11:38 AM)
ah thats what i have been doing, multiples of 5K
thanks for letting me know, strange this maybank told me 15K limit
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weird... end of Feb, I just do one transaction to epf around rm7k using MBB. no issue at all.
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seems like transferred money doesnt "register" at EPF during the weekends.
normally it takes 2 days to appear but over the weekends, nothing is happening. suspense only now... smile.gif
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Just curious, how well that u guys , the self-contributors have faith in epf since the fund is kinda locked down until 60 years old
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I remember there's one country, on the brink of bankruptcy, using their citizen money in bank account to save the country

Apparently it is legal and Malaysia, if I am not mistaken, there's such law as well.

Sorry but I have forgotten that country name. Perhaps some member here remember
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seems like transferred money doesnt "register" at EPF during the weekends.
normally it takes 2 days to appear but over the weekends, nothing is happening. suspense only now... smile.gif
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It's 2 working days, hence weekend is not counted.
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Hi, May i know can i open i-saraan for my child <5 yrs old and also get the incentive?
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Hi, May i know can i open i-saraan for my child <5 yrs old and also get the incentive?
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Voluntary Contribution with Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan) allows our members who are self-employed and do not earn a regular income to make voluntary contributions towards your retirement, and at the same time receive additional contribution from the government.

Who are the people who fall under the self-employed category?
1. Farmers/Fishermen/Taxi Drivers
2. Small Business Owners/Hawkers/Night Market Traders
3. Babysitters
4. Commission-receiving agents (e.g. insurance agents, real estate agents)
5. Freelancers (e.g. those who receive payment for services including deejays, singers, actors, fitness instructors, consultants)
6. Business Owners (sole proprietors/partners) involved in the trading of goods and services
7. Online Business Owners
8. Professionals with their own practice (e.g. accountants, doctors, lawyers)
9. Housewives
10. Pensionable Employees

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/i-saraan

I don't think so.
I think there's also a min legal age for employement.

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Hi guys.... in order to get full RM4k relief for EPF self contribution for next year relief..... how much must i contribute to the EPF self contribution in this year? Is it equal value meaning need to put RM4k to EPF self contribution account?
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Hi guys.... in order to get full RM4k relief for EPF self contribution for next year relief..... how much must i contribute to the EPF self contribution in this year?  Is it equal value meaning need to put RM4k to EPF self contribution account?
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If you're self employed, then it'll be RM 4k.
If you're salaried employee, you need to supplement whatever short from your own contribution via salary deduction.
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i miss when it was 7k before - now is 4k epf and 3k life insurance ... aihs
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Was 6k combined before.

Was a stupid move by LGE. Must have been lobbied pretty hard by the insurance industry.
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Hi guys, for self-contributors.. Is it still advisable to continue contributing to my own EPF now ?

read something above about gov is using EPF money to save employer or something like that? .. that means using our EPF money right? feel unsafe .. shocking.gif
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QUOTE(27needles @ Apr 8 2020, 10:10 PM)
Hi guys, for self-contributors.. Is it still advisable to continue contributing to my own EPF now ?

read something above about gov is using EPF money to save employer or something like that? .. that means using our EPF money right? feel unsafe ..  shocking.gif
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You just asked here few hours ago:

Thread link: https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461/+4260#entry96242039

Post link: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=96241901

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QUOTE(27needles @ Apr 8 2020, 10:10 PM)
Hi guys, for self-contributors.. Is it still advisable to continue contributing to my own EPF now ?

read something above about gov is using EPF money to save employer or something like that? .. that means using our EPF money right? feel unsafe ..  shocking.gif
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read this to see how the RM50 billions is derived.....
see if it is EPF or contributors is using the RM50 billions....

Not right to allow RM500 monthly withdrawal from EPF, says MTUC
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-epf-says-mtuc/
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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 8 2020, 10:22 PM)
read this to see how the RM50 billions is derived.....
see if it is EPF or contributors is using the RM50 billions....

Not right to allow RM500 monthly withdrawal from EPF, says MTUC
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-epf-says-mtuc/
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thank you T231H ! will read up on it smile.gif

QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Apr 8 2020, 10:14 PM)
whoa.. take it easy, lol. that thread is actually for dividend questions, no? that's why i decided to post here instead . thank you for noticing my previous post.. Do you have any input though?

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QUOTE(T231H @ Apr 8 2020, 10:22 PM)
read this to see how the RM50 billions is derived.....
see if it is EPF or contributors is using the RM50 billions....

Not right to allow RM500 monthly withdrawal from EPF, says MTUC
https://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...-epf-says-mtuc/
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just read it .. yes, i do know about gov allowing us contributors to withdraw until end of the year.. this i believe is fine, as it is up to us whether we need to withdraw .. But could there be any other factors that could make it unsafe for us to keep 'saving' it into EPF until old age? considering the country's situation, etc.. hmm.gif

i do appreciate your patience and comment, even if my questions are 'dumb' in any sense notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(27needles @ Apr 8 2020, 10:47 PM)
just read it .. yes, i do know about gov allowing us contributors to withdraw until end of the year.. this i believe is fine, as it is up to us whether we need to withdraw .. But could there be any other factors that could make it unsafe for us to keep 'saving' it into EPF until old age? considering the country's situation, etc.. hmm.gif

i do appreciate your patience and comment, even if my questions are 'dumb' in any sense notworthy.gif
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My take is, if you really need the money or you have another investment vehicle that can offer you liquidity, then go for it.

If you withdraw to buy your wants and not needs, then don’t touch that money.

I myself is taking the money out because it’s not always the Gov let you withdraw from Acc 2 without question.

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QUOTE(27needles @ Apr 8 2020, 10:47 PM)
just read it .. yes, i do know about gov allowing us contributors to withdraw until end of the year.. this i believe is fine, as it is up to us whether we need to withdraw .. But could there be any other factors that could make it unsafe for us to keep 'saving' it into EPF until old age? considering the country's situation, etc.. hmm.gif

i do appreciate your patience and comment, even if my questions are 'dumb' in any sense notworthy.gif
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on this....
"But could there be any other factors that could make it unsafe for us to keep 'saving' it into EPF until old age? considering the country's situation"....

there had been posting mentioning/suggesting those that has this "feelings" can stop self contribution to EPF,
use that money to buy and keep USD or SGD or any other foreign currencies that has less likely to have depreciating monetary value than MYR until OLD age.
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it was 6k previously, no?
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Guys, for I -Saraan, has anyone contributed without filling up the form first?
Cos there's a I-saraan button in Maybank2u.

According to the FAQ need to fill up form. If self contribution no need.


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Guys, for I -Saraan, has anyone contributed without filling up the form first?
Cos there's a I-saraan button in Maybank2u.

According to the FAQ need to fill up form. If self contribution no need.
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while waiting for responses,
try page 7, post 135...
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Guys, for I -Saraan, has anyone contributed without filling up the form first?
Cos there's a I-saraan button in Maybank2u.

According to the FAQ need to fill up form. If self contribution no need.
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No you need to go down to EPF to fill up the form.
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Any of you pumping more to EPF considering that FD rate is very low?
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i already maxed out my 60k this year...

btw if I accidentally contributed more than 60k (via cimb)...like rm10 extra , what would happen to the extra rm10 ?
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i already maxed out my 60k this year...

btw if I accidentally contributed more than 60k (via cimb)...like rm10 extra , what would happen to the extra rm10 ?
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This post said will refund all the money from the latest contribution.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=93140192
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i already maxed out my 60k this year...

btw if I accidentally contributed more than 60k (via cimb)...like rm10 extra , what would happen to the extra rm10 ?
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Meaning RM60,000.00k + 5% dividend (Assuming) = RM63,600.00 u'll be getting right ?
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ May 23 2020, 01:37 AM)
i already maxed out my 60k this year...

btw if I accidentally contributed more than 60k (via cimb)...like rm10 extra , what would happen to the extra rm10 ?
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Have you call to EPF customer service regarding this issue? Hope you could update here if you receive any feedback from EPF. Thanks.
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 23 2020, 01:41 AM)
This post said will refund all the money from the latest contribution.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=93140192
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my latest top-up was rm5k...that means rm5k would be refunded ?
these few days epf on holiday...no update on my account yet

QUOTE(doremon @ May 26 2020, 05:57 AM)
Meaning RM60,000.00k + 5% dividend (Assuming) = RM63,600.00 u'll be getting right ?
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ermm...i am not sure how to calculate the dividend
but don't think it would be 3.6k in dividend
i hope it's 5% too ! haha...

QUOTE(CyFrozenFoods @ May 26 2020, 10:25 AM)
Have you call to EPF customer service regarding this issue? Hope you could update here if you receive any feedback from EPF. Thanks.
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not yet, maybe tomorrow will try giving them a call..
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ May 26 2020, 11:07 PM)
my latest top-up was rm5k...that means rm5k would be refunded ?
these few days epf on holiday...no update on my account yet
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can you check online to see if that money is in?
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Using M2U to transfer funds to EPF is limited to <= rm5000 per transactions, so have to do 12x for rm60k. What about other banks?
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 27 2020, 11:17 AM)
Using M2U to transfer funds to EPF is limited to <= rm5000 per transactions, so have to do 12x for rm60k. What about other banks?
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Same goes to CIMBClicks.
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Using M2U to transfer funds to EPF is limited to <= rm5000 per transactions, so have to do 12x for rm60k. What about other banks?
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from
EPF DIVIDEND, EPF
https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461

from page 195 discussions....

QUOTE(,Feb 19 2020, 07:40 PM)
For self cuntribution, its possible to transfer RM60K one shot on PB e-banking.
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QUOTE(,Feb 19 2020, 08:41 PM)
I can confirm this is possible as I’ve done it myself.
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Using PBB ebanking, no security device.
For Rm60K one transaction, just using fone and TAC number.
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Bro what is FSM ? No idea.

My replies above are specifically on the EPF Malaysia only.
As explained earlier, its 60K per transaction.
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QUOTE(MUM @ May 27 2020, 12:59 PM)
from
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461

from page 195 discussions....
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When I put RM 60k in PEe for KWSP self-contrition payment I got this error:

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Transaction Unsuccessful.
Maximum transaction amount for open payment is RM9,999.99.
Please register biller as favourite or apply for SecureSign Token if the payment amount is RM10,000.00 and above.


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When I put RM 60k in PEe for KWSP self-contrition payment I got this error:
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thanks for the checking out...
then perhaps have to "register biller as favourite or apply for SecureSign Token if the payment amount is RM10,000.00 and above", to be able to like posted in Feb 2020
or maybe it was a new requirement?

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 27 2020, 12:59 PM)
from
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https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2705461

from page 195 discussions....
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Thanks for this info. I just realised that better to do it yesterday 40k and today 20k cos only 3 working days to 1-Jun even though my last few transfers in 2019 were credited in EPF acc the next day.
May be TS WTF2008 can put it on 1st page.

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Thanks for this info. I just realised that better to do it yesterday 40k and today 20k cos only 3 working days to 1-Jun even though my last few transfers in 2019 were credited in EPF acc the next day.
May be TS WTF2008 can put it on 1st page.
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but do take note of GrumpyNooby test out results as above
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When I put RM 60k in PEe for KWSP self-contrition payment I got this error:
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Thanks, so need to do abide by these condition:
Maximum transaction amount for open payment is RM9,999.99.
Please register biller as favourite or apply for SecureSign Token if the payment amount is RM10,000.00 and above.
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Was 6k combined before.

Was a stupid move by LGE. Must have been lobbied pretty hard by the insurance industry.
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 27 2020, 11:17 AM)
Using M2U to transfer funds to EPF is limited to <= rm5000 per transactions, so have to do 12x for rm60k. What about other banks?
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U just need to up m2u limit.

It is not limited to 5k. You can do 50k one go.
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U just need to up m2u limit.

It is not limited to 5k. You can do 50k one go.
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U mean change the 3rd party limit (max 30k)?

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U just need to up m2u limit.

It is not limited to 5k. You can do 50k one go.
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CIMB allows 5000 per transaction too if not mistaken
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CIMB allows 5000 per transaction too if not mistaken
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Yes. I had shared few posts above.

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 27 2020, 10:02 PM)
U mean change the 3rd party limit (max 30k)?

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Maybe you don’t have to change at all.

You can transfer any amount.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Edit: just tried adding in another account- u don’t have to change the limit. There’s no restriction.

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CIMB allows 5000 per transaction too if not mistaken
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That’s for CIMB. But m2u has no limit.

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Maybe you don’t have to change at all. Can’t remember exactly. But after you added it, it appears on mobile app.

You can transfer any amount.

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

That’s for CIMB. But m2u has no limit.
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I used M2u desktop not app, n when tried with 30k, it gave a msg that max is 5k. May be u have previously change the 3rd party limit from the default 5k to 30k?
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QUOTE(MGM @ May 28 2020, 08:36 AM)
I used M2u desktop not app, n when tried with 30k, it gave a msg that max is 5k. May be u have previously change the 3rd party limit from the default 5k to 30k?
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I just tried adding in another Maybank account and there’s no limit restrictions either. It didn’t restrict to 5k or 30k.

Did you set up pay limit to 5k?

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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ May 28 2020, 08:41 AM)
I just tried adding in another Maybank account and there’s no limit restrictions either. It didn’t restrict to 5k or 30k.

Did you set up pay limit to 5k?
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Didnt tried the option of changing the 3rd party limit, cos I was in a hurry to transfer the funds when I read someone said here it takes 2 working days. Also didnt realise that could the reason.
I transfered on 26/5 8pm and they were credited on 27/5 but only reflected online on 28/5. So should be "transfer completed the next working day not 2 working days".

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QUOTE(MGM @ May 27 2020, 12:17 PM)
Using M2U to transfer funds to EPF is limited to <= rm5000 per transactions, so have to do 12x for rm60k. What about other banks?
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No limit for PBB e-banking.
In January this year I transferred $60K one shot.

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 28 2020, 10:16 AM)
No limit for PBB e-banking.
In January this year I transferred $60K one shot.
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just asking,...did you register biller (EPF) as favourite before doing that transaction in January?
since you did not use the Securesign token device but just used the phone and TAC only...

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QUOTE(MUM @ May 28 2020, 11:28 AM)
just asking,...did you register biller (EPF) as favourite?
since you did not use the Securesign token device but just used the phone and TAC only...
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No, I've never signed up EPF as a fav payee, this is not necessary and I think the system doesn't allow you to do this.
Just TAC number sent to the smartphone.


Payment -> Other Payment -> EPF Payment - > Fill in yr name, MyKad No, EPF Acct Number, Month of Caruman, Amount of Caruman,
select self cuntribution....kaotim.


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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 28 2020, 10:33 AM)
No, I've never signed up EPF as a fav payee, this is not necessary and I think the system doesn't allow you to do this.
Just TAC number sent to the smartphone.
Payment -> Other Payment -> EPF Payment - > Fill in yr name, MyKad No, EPF Acct Number, Month of Caruman, Amount of Caruman,
select self cuntribution....kaotim.
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But why I encountered such error:

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Transaction Unsuccessful.
Maximum transaction amount for open payment is RM9,999.99.
Please register biller as favourite or apply for SecureSign Token if the payment amount is RM10,000.00 and above.


I don't have SecureSign Token with me.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ May 28 2020, 10:33 AM)
No, I've never signed up EPF as a fav payee, this is not necessary and I think the system doesn't allow you to do this.
Just TAC number sent to the smartphone.
Payment -> Other Payment -> EPF Payment - > Fill in yr name, MyKad No, EPF Acct Number, Month of Caruman, Amount of Caruman,
select self cuntribution....kaotim.
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notworthy.gif thanks,...try post 412,...seems like the requirements (added/changed/amended)?

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But why I encountered such error:
I don't have SecureSign Token with me.
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Hmm, that's strange. I didnt encounter this.
Why don't you call up the Cust Service to ask how to manage this.
Maybe requirements hv been tightened since then.


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Hmm, that's strange. I didnt encounter this.
Why don't you call up the Cust Service to ask how to manage this.
Maybe requirements hv been tightened since then.
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till then,...try to update us again the procedure in Jan 2021, after you had made another lumpsum of 60k into EPF again notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(Cookie101 @ May 28 2020, 08:41 AM)
I just tried adding in another Maybank account and there’s no limit restrictions either. It didn’t restrict to 5k or 30k.

Did you set up pay limit to 5k?
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DID u use [EPF Open Payment] or [EPF Registered Payment]?
Just now I changed the 3rd Party Limit from 5k to 7k and still got the same problem:

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till then,...try to update us again the procedure in Jan 2021, after you had made another lumpsum of 60k into EPF again  notworthy.gif
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can you check online to see if that money is in?
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i made 8x rm5k via cimbcliks on 22/5...at this point of time, i accidentally deposited extra rm10 on the 8th transaction

only 7x rm5k shown in my epf account

till today i haven't received the rm5k (8th transaction) back in my cimb account...given 25 & 26 May are public holidays

should i call ?
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ May 28 2020, 12:38 PM)
i made 8x rm5k via cimbcliks on 22/5...at this point of time, i accidentally deposited extra rm10 on the 8th transaction

only 7x  rm5k shown in my epf account

till today i haven't received the rm5k (8th transaction) back in my cimb account...given 25 & 26 May are public holidays

should i call ?
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I was at the kwsp counter a number of years ago depositing , when the counter told me to be careful not deposit above the max limit as the amount will be "tergantung" , whatever it means .

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DID u use [EPF Open Payment] or [EPF Registered Payment]?
Just now I changed the 3rd Party Limit from 5k to 7k and still got the same problem:

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QUOTE(magika @ May 28 2020, 12:54 PM)
I was at the kwsp counter a number of years ago depositing , when the counter told me to be careful not deposit above the max limit as the amount will be "tergantung" , whatever it means .
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that means i need to pay a visit to kwsp counter...sigh


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Registered payment
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I wonder what else did u do differently that circumvent this 5k limit restriction? hmm.gif
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that means i need to pay a visit to kwsp counter...sigh
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just to update here:

i went to epf office, and was informed i need to call epf hotline to check

but epf hotline not entertaining epf self contribution matter until cmco is over...

while my rm5k still stuck somewhere after 7 working days

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ May 28 2020, 01:38 PM)
i made 8x rm5k via cimbcliks on 22/5...at this point of time, i accidentally deposited extra rm10 on the 8th transaction

only 7x  rm5k shown in my epf account

till today i haven't received the rm5k (8th transaction) back in my cimb account...given 25 & 26 May are public holidays

should i call ?
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I once tried to transfer $5 into my EPF (for testing purposes to find out what happens if I accidentally over-credited more than allowed),
even though already maxed out $60K annual limit.

A lady from EPF phoned me and asked for me for my bank account for her to transfer it back.
She then emailed to me and I responded, the 5 bucks was duly returned to my bank account within 2 weeks, followed up a letter from EPF saying the 5 bucks was credited back to me.

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 5 2020, 10:07 AM)
I once tried to transfer $5 into my EPF (for testing purposes to find out what happens if I accidentally over-credited more than allowed),
even though already maxed out $60K annual limit.

A lady from EPF phoned me and asked for me for my bank account for her to transfer it back.
She then emailed to me and I responded, the 5 bucks was duly returned to my bank account within 2 weeks, followed up a letter from EPF saying the 5 bucks was credited back to me.
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until now nobody from epf called me yet...epf informed that self contribution section not operating yet till 8th june

but with your feedback i am glad it can be resolved
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 5 2020, 10:12 AM)
until now nobody from epf called me yet...epf informed that self contribution section not operating yet till 8th june

but with your feedback i am glad it can be resolved
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On 9Aug2019, i contributed excess of rm5k. On 16Aug, they called me and then follow up by an email to my registered email. They need veeification for you to reply their email..

"Mohon tuan/puan kemukakan maklumat-maklumat berikut untuk tujuan pengembalian bayaran berkenaan :-

a. Alamat terkini ahli
b. Nombor akaun bank ahli yang masih aktif
c. Nama Bank (bagi no.akaun bank tersebut)
d. No Telefon

Untuk sebarang pertaanyaan, sila hubungi Pn. Haliza Zainuddin di talian 03-2694 8566 (samb. 2619)"

They are very helpful. I suggest you can call them for the KL branch provided this lady still handle this matter
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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 5 2020, 06:37 PM)
On 9Aug2019, i contributed excess of rm5k. On 16Aug, they called me and then follow up by an email to my registered email. They need veeification for you to reply their email..

"Mohon tuan/puan kemukakan maklumat-maklumat berikut untuk tujuan pengembalian bayaran berkenaan :-

a.    Alamat terkini ahli
b.    Nombor akaun bank ahli yang masih aktif
c.    Nama Bank (bagi no.akaun bank tersebut) 
d.    No Telefon

Untuk sebarang pertaanyaan, sila hubungi Pn. Haliza Zainuddin di talian 03-2694 8566 (samb. 2619)"

They are very helpful. I suggest you can call them for the KL branch provided this lady still handle this matter
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i did call KL branch for this matter...however they only handle i-lestari matter for now

only after 8th june onward will they entertain self contribution matter...

but my 5k is stuck in another dimension...
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Any thoughts on the i-saraan matching grant for EPF?

I guess there should be a limit to it, otherwise if someone deposited several thousands, the government will have to fork out a huge sum for everyone.

But no information on the limit though?
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Any thoughts on the i-saraan matching grant for EPF?

I guess there should be a limit to it, otherwise if someone deposited several thousands, the government will have to fork out a huge sum for everyone.

But no information on the limit though?
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Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan)
As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions.

*Not applicable to members that receive a fixed employer contribution.
*Government contribution is limited to members who are below age 55.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/i-saraan
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 6 2020, 09:42 AM)
Retirement Incentive (i-Saraan)
As a member under this incentive, you will receive a 15% government contribution (a maximum of RM250/year [Effective 1 Jan 2018]) on top of your own contributions.

*Not applicable to members that receive a fixed employer contribution.
*Government contribution is limited to members who are below age 55.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution/i-saraan
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So, you are saying that the 15% contribution up to 250 by the government is the matching grant?
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So, you are saying that the 15% contribution up to 250 by the government is the matching grant?
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I believe so.

https://financemalaysia.blogspot.com/2019/0...-incentive.html
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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Jun 6 2020, 09:56 AM)
I beg to differ.

If that's the case, the announcement by the PM yesterday is utterly useless. i-saraan scheme was launched back in 2018/2019 and the 15% incentive is already known to the public for quite some time. There must be some differences between the matching grant incentive announced yesterday and the original government incentive then, I hope?

After all, matching grant should be based on employee's contribution (with a factor of 1 to 1), completely unrelated to the 15% incentive.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 6 2020, 09:40 AM)
Any thoughts on the i-saraan matching grant for EPF?

I guess there should be a limit to it, otherwise if someone deposited several thousands, the government will have to fork out a huge sum for everyone.

But no information on the limit though?
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this matching grant that you mentioned....is it about this?
Matching grant for gig workers
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2020/06/...timely-says-epf
"Yesterday, Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin announced that the government will provide a matching grant of up to RM50 million for gig economy platforms who contribute towards their gig workers' Social Security Organisation's (Socso) employment injury scheme and the EPF's i-Saraan scheme.
The initiative is among 40 outlined in the RM35 billion allocated under the Penjana Economic Recovery Plan."??

if YES, then,...from the same article...
"The move by the government to provide a matching grant for gig economy workers to contribute towards the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) via the i-Saraan scheme comes at the right time, taking into consideration developments in the country's workforce sector.
i-Saraan allows EPF members who are self-employed and do not earn a regular income to make voluntary contributions towards their retirement and at the same time, receive additional contribution from the government."

for its rate and others...do refer to GrumpyNooby's earlier postings

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jun 6 2020, 10:06 AM)
this matching grant that you mentioned....is it about this?
Matching grant for gig workers
https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2020/06/...timely-says-epf
"Yesterday, Prime Minister Tan Sri Muhyiddin Yassin announced that the government will provide a matching grant of up to RM50 million for gig economy platforms who contribute towards their gig workers' Social Security Organisation's (Socso) employment injury scheme and the EPF's i-Saraan scheme.
The initiative is among 40 outlined in the RM35 billion allocated under the Penjana Economic Recovery Plan."??

if YES, then,...from the same article...
"The move by the government to provide a matching grant for gig economy workers to contribute towards the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) via the i-Saraan scheme comes at the right time, taking into consideration developments in the country's workforce sector.
i-Saraan allows EPF members who are self-employed and do not earn a regular income to make voluntary contributions towards their retirement and at the same time, receive additional contribution from the government."

for its rate and others...do refer to GrumpyNooby's earlier postings
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Appreciate that. Yes I am referring to that announcement. But I am trying to understand how this new "matching grant" is different from the 15% incentive earlier. No details are released except the total amount is 50 million. Both Grumpy and you are directing me to the original 15% incentive by the government which I am fully aware of.

What I want to know is how this new "matching grant" is different from the old/original 15% incentive? Or are they the same thing (in which case, the announcement yesterday is useless.)?

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Whatever announced by PM is just expanding the scope of coverage to include gig economy workers.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jun 6 2020, 10:11 AM)
Appreciate that. Yes I am referring to that announcement. But I am trying to understand how this new "matching grant" is different from the 15% incentive earlier. No details are released except the total amount is 50 million. Both Grumpy and you are directing me to the original 15% incentive by the government which I am fully aware of.

What I want to know is how this new "matching grant" is different from the old/original 15% incentive? Or are they the same thing (in which case, the announcement yesterday is useless.)?
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I think it was meant to allow/encourage those in the gig economy to participate in those scheme....
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Ah, useless to me, but useful for gig workers. Got it!

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post Jun 10 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 5 2020, 06:37 PM)
On 9Aug2019, i contributed excess of rm5k. On 16Aug, they called me and then follow up by an email to my registered email. They need veeification for you to reply their email..

"Mohon tuan/puan kemukakan maklumat-maklumat berikut untuk tujuan pengembalian bayaran berkenaan :-

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Untuk sebarang pertaanyaan, sila hubungi Pn. Haliza Zainuddin di talian 03-2694 8566 (samb. 2619)"

They are very helpful. I suggest you can call them for the KL branch provided this lady still handle this matter
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did they ask for bank transaction as evidence...?

they requested for mine

is it safe to share my bank transactions to them ?
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 10 2020, 03:24 PM)
did they ask for bank transaction as evidence...?

they requested for mine

is it safe to share my bank transactions to them ?
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They didnt asked me previously.

I think should be safe as its just like a transaction, like you made a payment and share the transaction detail to a friend. Do make sure they didnt ask you for login and password 😅
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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:42 AM)
They didnt asked me previously.

I think should be safe as its just like a transaction, like you made a payment and share the transaction detail to a friend. Do make sure they didnt ask you for login and password 😅
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just to update:
i sent them a screenshot of the said transaction and a form...

few days later the money has been credited back into my cimb...along with extra money !

haha...
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 14 2020, 04:05 PM)
just to update:
i sent them a screenshot of the said transaction and a form...

few days later the money has been credited back into my cimb...along with extra money !

haha...
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so how many days from over contribution of >60k to finally get back the returns into your bank account?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 14 2020, 04:09 PM)
so how many days from over contribution of >60k to finally get back the returns into your bank account?
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from the day i furnished them with the form and transaction info...about 4 days
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 14 2020, 09:58 PM)
from the day i furnished them with the form and transaction info...about 4 days
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that was fast...
they return just the "extra" RM10 (exceeded RM60k) or the whole sum of the last transaction?
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 14 2020, 10:05 PM)
that was fast...
they return just the "extra" RM10 (exceeded RM60k) or the whole sum of the last transaction?
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whole sum of the last transaction...

so i need to transfer the exact correct amount this time to avoid getting the money stuck in nowhere
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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:17 PM)
whole sum of the last transaction...

so i need to transfer the exact correct amount this time to avoid getting the money stuck in nowhere
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thanks for the all information you had provided.... thumbsup.gif
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Hi all, tumpang topic,
I just applied i saraan via counter. The staff told me they will registered for me next day. They say can direct bank in money inside ady.

How am i supposed to know that I ady under I saraan? When i check my i Akaun, nothing difference.

Is it i can bank in any money from Maybank2u ady? Thanks in advance
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jun 30 2020, 10:46 PM)
Hi all, tumpang topic,
I just applied i saraan via counter. The staff told me they will registered for me next day. They say can direct bank in money inside ady.

How am i supposed to know that I ady under I saraan? When i check my i Akaun, nothing difference.

Is it i can bank in any money from Maybank2u ady? Thanks in advance
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try read page 7, post 130 and important tips on post 135 by birdman8
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QUOTE(MUM @ Jul 1 2020, 12:31 AM)
try read page 7, post 130 and important tips on post 135 by birdman8
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Thank you.
I just wanted to know wether the officer ady registered for me or not. worry later I do the transfer, then the money didnt enter my EPF.
Worry the officer forget to register or what biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jun 30 2020, 10:46 PM)
Hi all, tumpang topic,
I just applied i saraan via counter. The staff told me they will registered for me next day. They say can direct bank in money inside ady.

How am i supposed to know that I ady under I saraan? When i check my i Akaun, nothing difference.

Is it i can bank in any money from Maybank2u ady? Thanks in advance
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when u're about to transfer/deposit from ur m2u, u will have the option to choose self-contribution (without saraan) and self-contribution (with saraan).. opt for the one that apply to ur situation then
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Anyone knows what happens if put over 60k into the self-contribution account? Money seems to be stuck somewhere, but haven't been able to reach EPF yet.

Edit: lyc1982, saw you were in the same situation. Which form did you use? Thanks.

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QUOTE(BboyDora @ Jul 1 2020, 09:51 AM)
Thank you.
I just wanted to know wether the officer ady registered for me or not. worry later I do the transfer, then the money didnt enter my EPF.
Worry the officer forget to register or what biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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after u success transfer the money, and the money oledi reflect in ur account, u will see "self contribution i Saraan"

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Anyone knows what happens if put over 60k into the self-contribution account? Money seems to be stuck somewhere, but haven't been able to reach EPF yet.

Edit: lyc1982, saw you were in the same situation. Which form did you use? Thanks.
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If last transaction exceeds the threshold, EPF will contact you to refund the last transaction amount, regardless how much extra. It's a manual process, it will take time.
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Any idea this "Sumbangan I-Saraan" still available? Has it been given out for 2020 cos I cant check at EPF website due to maintenance? hope it will return b4 year end.

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Any idea this "Sumbangan I-Saraan" still available? Has it been given out for 2020 cos I cant check at EPF website due to maintenance? hope it will return b4 year end.

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just asking,....when did you make the I-saraan contribution?

i think reading from their FAQs

The EPF will routinely make government contribution claims based on accumulated contribution for the first (January to June) and second (July to December) halves of the year.
Upon receiving the contribution payment from the government, the amount will be credited into members' Account 1 (Retirement Account).

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...he%20government.

looks like those that contribute i-saraan on the 2nd half of the year will "get" it next year.
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 26 2020, 06:49 PM)
just asking,....when did you make the I-saraan contribution?

i think reading from their FAQs

The EPF will routinely make government contribution claims based on accumulated contribution for the first (January to June) and second (July to December) halves of the year.
Upon receiving the contribution payment from the government, the amount will be credited into members' Account 1 (Retirement Account).

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...he%20government.

looks like those that contribute i-saraan on the 2nd half of the year will "get" it next year.
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I did my i-saraan contribution on 19 May 2020 and received RM250 gov contribution on 24 Sep 2020

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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Dec 27 2020, 11:31 AM)
I did my i-saraan contribution on 19 May 2020 and received RM250 gov contribution on 24 Sep 2020
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thanks for telling and confirming the latest info
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thanks for telling and confirming the latest info
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I check my 2019 statement and noticed my contribution made during April 2019 and gov contribution credited October 2019.

So i guess gov contribution will be made in Sep/Oct for i-saraan deposited before June. I have no idea when will be the gov contribution be credited for i-saraan made from July onwards. So everyone try to deposit the i-saraan before June to be safe.
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Hi all, I am a salaried worker with epf account, can i self-contribute extra to my epf account random amounts whenever I want? Do I need to isi any borang?

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QUOTE(laceruffles91 @ Dec 31 2020, 09:44 PM)
Hi all, I am a salaried worker with epf account, can i self-contribute extra to my epf account random amounts whenever I want? Do I need to isi any borang?
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Additional self contribution no need to fill any form but there's annual cap for it.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution

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QUOTE(GrumpyNooby @ Dec 31 2020, 09:47 PM)
Additional self contribution no need to fill any form but there's annual cap for it.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/contribution...lf-contribution
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Thanks! Then i can save some in epf instead of fd ✌🏻
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Thanks! Then i can save some in epf instead of fd ✌🏻
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Do take note of the availability of lock in period in epf...
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Dec 31 2020, 10:29 PM)
Do take note of the availability of lock in period in epf...
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Haha yeah I will only keep some in epf... some in fd...


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QUOTE(ikanbilis @ Dec 27 2020, 04:39 PM)
I check my 2019 statement and noticed my contribution made during April 2019 and gov contribution credited October 2019.

So i guess gov contribution will be made in Sep/Oct for i-saraan deposited before June. I have no idea when will be the gov contribution be credited for i-saraan made from July onwards. So everyone try to deposit the i-saraan before June to be safe.
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Jan19 - Feb19 did not pick I-saraan at bank option, so no gov contribution for it.
May19 - Jun19 I-saraan, gov contribution RM70.05 in Oct 19.
Jul19 - Dec19 I-saraan, gov contribution RM179.95 in Feb 20.
2019 I-saraan, gov give RM250 in total.

Jan20 - Jun20 I-saraan, gov contribution RM250 in Sep 20.
Jul20 - Dec20 I-saraan, gov contribution should be next year Feb.
2020 I-saraan, gov already give max RM250, dunno next feb/mar still receiving or not.

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Today 1-Jan already...u can transfer 60K terus for self-contribution.


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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 1 2021, 11:22 PM)
Today 1-Jan already...u can transfer 60K terus for self-contribution.
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Doing it on 1st or end of the month also get same dividend amount for tis month?

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 2 2021, 12:38 AM)
Doing it on 1st or end of the month also get same dividend amount for tis month?
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I think there is a cut-off date within the month which determines the div calc for that month itself,
but I'm not entirely sure how the mechanics.

I'm not bothered to count pennies here, just transfer when you have the funds ready.
A few bucks not gained are negligible, small potatoes
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I think there is a cut-off date within the month which determines the div calc for that month itself,
but I'm not entirely sure how the mechanics.

I'm not bothered to count pennies here, just transfer when you have the funds ready.
A few bucks not gained are negligible, small potatoes
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possible of 2%pa interest for 29 days for 60k ...not a small potatoes for me thou...

read previously it is just 1 day interest no matter when you put in for that month....to have full month calculation...had to be in by "last" month

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 2 2021, 01:27 PM)
possible of 2%pa interest for 29 days for 60k ...not a small potatoes for me thou...

read previously it is just 1 day interest no matter when you put in for that month....to have full month calculation...had to be in by "last" month
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Its approx 100 bucks, give or take.
Just let it be lah

I hv just transferred online to EPF just now.
You need to uprate the max limit for the payment feature in the internet banking, so that 60K can lepas one shot.
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 2 2021, 03:08 PM)
Its approx 100 bucks, give or take.
Just let it be lah

I hv just transferred online to EPF just now.
You need to uprate the max limit for the payment feature in the internet banking, so that 60K can lepas one shot.
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It will reflect instantly in kwsp I account once you transfer?
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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 2 2021, 03:11 PM)
It will reflect instantly in kwsp I account once you transfer?
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about 2- 3 days.

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Jan 2 2021, 03:11 PM)
It will reflect instantly in kwsp I account once you transfer?
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Pls note that any transfer to kwsp now will only be updated after dividend declaration. I faced the same thing when i made self-contribution on 1 Jan last year.

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Pls note that any transfer to kwsp now will only be updated after dividend declaration. I faced the same thing when i made self-contribution on 1 Jan last year.
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So, it will backdate to 1 Jan right?
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So, it will backdate to 1 Jan right?
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Yes. It was shown as contribution made on 2 Jan on my i-account.

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It will reflect instantly in kwsp I account once you transfer?
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At least 3 working days.
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It will reflect instantly in kwsp I account once you transfer?
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do you meant the deposit transfer done during the Jan~Feb period or normal (non Jan~Feb (after dividend) period)?
seems like the reflection period differs
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Today 1-Jan already...u can transfer 60K terus for self-contribution.
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Noted. tq tq boss but would the rm60k max reflect after 3 to 4 working days or it comes after the dividend declared around mid/end of feb?
sorry if it is a silly question. tq sir notworthy.gif

Uncle saw this message over the kwsp main portal website. Was just curious and would like to be sure.

"Note: The up to date balances only available after declared dividend. Please check your balance again later"

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QUOTE(immobile @ Jan 4 2021, 01:13 AM)
Noted. tq tq boss but would the rm60k max reflect after 3 to 4 working days or it comes after the dividend declared around mid/end of feb?
sorry if it is a silly question. tq sir  notworthy.gif

Uncle saw this message over the kwsp main portal website. Was just curious and would like to be sure.

"Note: The up to date balances only available after declared dividend. Please check your balance again later"
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Obviously no.
Your self contribution is meant for 2021.
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I checked i-akaun last evening, it was credited already.
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I checked i-akaun last evening, it was credited already.
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Directly displayed at the main page or hv to view it indirectly at the amount eligible for investment method as told by forummers last year?

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I checked i-akaun last evening, it was credited already.
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A silly question. Last year I checked through "withdrawal eligibility", last weekend I saw that but now the section disappeared. How do you check?
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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jan 2 2021, 03:08 PM)
Its approx 100 bucks, give or take.
Just let it be lah

I hv just transferred online to EPF just now.
You need to uprate the max limit for the payment feature in the internet banking, so that 60K can lepas one shot.
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What bank do you use? 2020 and 2019 i used 1 hour to transfer 12 split transaction of 5k each
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do you meant the deposit transfer done during the Jan~Feb period or normal (non Jan~Feb (after dividend) period)?
seems like the reflection period differs
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Jan and Feb period...
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What bank do you use? 2020 and 2019 i used 1 hour to transfer 12 split transaction of 5k each
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Tiger can do one shot max.

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