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EPF - self contribution, need advise
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Wedchar2912
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Jan 10 2020, 01:12 PM
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QUOTE(TOS @ Jan 10 2020, 12:53 PM) Hi all, I self-contributed to EPF a few days ago (in year 2020) but the money did not appear in my account after 2-3 days. In fact, upon login to i-akuan, only my account balance till 31 Dec 2019 appears. If I click on the My Account tab, the contribution for 2020 is unavailable. Can anyone who contributed early this year confirm this? Thanks login to kwsp, and check the "Withdrawal Eligibility". The Total Account Balance should reflect the actual balance, ie inclusive of your Jan's contribution.
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Wedchar2912
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Jan 10 2020, 01:16 PM
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why worry about EPF going bankrupt? Due to our population demographic, EPF's aum kept on increasing by at least 10% per year, and mostly due to member's contribution.
Every employees contribute regardless of ethnicity, age, gender, etc. So if anything happens, gov will pump money. Just like TH and kwap. why worry.
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Wedchar2912
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Jan 10 2020, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 10 2020, 01:15 PM) can I ask.... can the contribution from the employee and employer that are deposited on 15 Jan be seen in that manner too after a few days, without having to wait till after dividend announcement? Yes and No. If your firm's HR processed it exactly on 15 Jan (and not like batch it to some later date), then yes it can be seen. The issue is when HR pay salary for say Jan, and claimed it is 15 Jan payment (i guess due to CNY), your net salary into your salary bank account may appear on 15 Jan. But your HR may choose to do the payment to EPF on Feb 10.
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Wedchar2912
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Jan 10 2020, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Jan 10 2020, 01:22 PM) what if they paid the end Dec salary on 31 Dec but EPF deducted from the 31 Dec salary, but paid/submit contribution on 15 Jan....will that EPF contribution be shown in the "withdrawal eligibility" method too...(maybe on 18 Jan)? this one yes. it should appear. At least it did in previous years when I checked.
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 8 2022, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 6 2022, 06:17 PM) i think they changed it....just unknown when...  when i was just over 55, i saw this image.. will have to schedule time to go to EPF office to register Oh thank you for this info. Didn't know have this.... soon will be able to apply for free 250rm...
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 8 2022, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(saintmikal @ Mar 8 2022, 12:56 PM) What happens if you do more than RM 60k self contribution? What happens at 60,001 onwards? The last transaction that causes the year's self contribution to exceed 60K rm exactly will bounce back. Say for example you have contributed 45K rm. Then the latest self contribution was 15,001 rm. They will reject the whole 15,001 rm contribution.
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 8 2022, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 8 2022, 06:24 PM) Mine is based on my actual experience. any forumer who wish to contribute 60K and willing to test out the system can give this a try. contribute 55K rm at start... and then the final one more time transaction 5,005 rm. See if 5 rm was refunded or 5.005K refunded. The worst that can happen is the 5.005K refunded and then redo it again at exactly 5K rm. This post has been edited by Wedchar2912: Mar 8 2022, 07:36 PM
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 11 2022, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Mar 11 2022, 03:50 PM) so, out of curiosity - what happens when we exceed 100 year old age?  unless there is a miracle cure or a fountain of youth type remedy, I would think the majority would just wish that one is dead at 100 years old.
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 12 2022, 10:53 AM
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QUOTE(magika @ Mar 11 2022, 06:30 PM) With the world equities tumbling, it would be a nice surprise if epf can give a 5% dividend for 2022. Couldnt wait for 1st quarter result. Personally if can give 4% above also nice already. so fast you are looking forward to 2022's dividend already.... 2021 result barely out for 10 days...
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 23 2022, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(Human Nature @ Mar 23 2022, 03:08 PM) Contribution via CIMB clicks is capped at RM5k per transfer. Is there such limit per transaction for Public Bank? Thank you same limit using Maybank. just have to do it x12 times
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Wedchar2912
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Mar 23 2022, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(c64 @ Mar 23 2022, 03:17 PM) Only for classic Maybank. Use the new one lah. Much better. ah cool... tq for the info. I've been using the classic one last year. Well, this year have to use the new one, but I ran out of FD to throw in. Finally...
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 6 2022, 07:57 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Apr 6 2022, 04:34 PM) I already transferred today. How long does it take EPF to deposit into my account. I just checked and it's not in yet. It will take a short few days. But the good thing (actually it can be bad thing depending on when within the month the money went in and appear in EPF's system) is that the interest earning calculation only starts at the end of the month. So, you are not losing anything vs depositing in next week. ie, you still get 1 day interest for the month of April 2022.
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 6 2022, 10:16 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Apr 6 2022, 10:11 PM) Why does it start from end of month instead of the day it appears on the account? No idea actually. I didn't bother to ask EPF (plus don't even think their customer service rep will actually tell us the real truth. Nothing we can do about it also).
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 7 2022, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Apr 7 2022, 10:50 AM) The one year wait is normal if we put it under FD for 1 year. But they should pay out the dividend on January instead of Mar/April every year. The dividend is only known to us when it is declared and cleared by MOF. But agree that this day and age, they could do their end of year valuation and politicking a lot faster than to wait till end quarter. However, the said dividend amount is still backdated to start of the year. Not like anyone is losing any accrual on the dividend. Not the worst inconvenience around…
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 7 2022, 12:35 PM
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 7 2022, 10:47 AM) Then the one year wait for the dividend to be paid out must be outrageous... well... funds in EPF is not a deposit in the form of FD.... plus the minimum 2.5% return beats any FD around today....
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 7 2022, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(gooroojee @ Apr 7 2022, 12:57 PM) yeap... already guessed that.... I just like to highlight to forum readers the 2.5% minimum return ( vs hunting around for better FD return today)
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 7 2022, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Apr 7 2022, 01:26 PM) If you ever see how the government staff work, you will know that they take their own sweet time to do things with many breaks. It's not crucial for rich people to wait for 3 months, but for retirees with no income, they want the dividend as soon as possible. By right, the dividend should be declared by early Jan and paid by mid Jan. Sure, I do agree that this day and age, this part of the process can be improved. But would any politician (lets be frank... not like us commoners can really influence EPF to do anything) take up the mantle to solve this? If anything, they the politicians are already looking at locking up our hard earn savings in EPF as long as they can.
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Wedchar2912
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Apr 8 2022, 02:14 PM
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QUOTE(ericthai @ Apr 8 2022, 10:09 AM) I just checked my EPF account on 8 April, it was credited on 7 April. I transferred via Maybank2u on 6 April. So it took them one working day to credit into my account. It was put into my 'over 60 years old emas account' So maximum two working days for people who want to deposit in the future, so the best time to deposit would be 28 of the month? I think best maybe 5 biz days before end of month? To give a bit of buffer in case of.... sistem tergendala.... This is Malaysia.... Don't mean to pry... mine last year when I do self contribution, it goes into Account 1 and Account 2. Yours into 'over 60 years old emas account'... would it be because you are above 55 years old?
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Wedchar2912
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May 30 2022, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(sben525 @ May 30 2022, 08:54 AM) i saw the document need IC, so partial withdraw also need go EPF branch? To do first time withdrawal in any method, must go to a EPF branch to fill some forms. I suggest you get your online access setup in same time and enable online withdrawal (or maybe once have online access, the allowed online withdrawal will be auto-setup??? I did mine many years ago and so I forgot the full process). Then if you ever need to do withdrawals in the future, you can do so online. Bring along your IC for sure, and bank statements as well, just in case.
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Wedchar2912
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Oct 18 2022, 12:00 PM
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QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Oct 18 2022, 09:59 AM) Quick one, Does the maximum self-contribution amount of RM100K start this year(YA22) or does it only begin in YA23 since it's a budget 2023 thing? Govt raises voluntary EPF contribution cap to RM100,000 in Budget 2023 (via The Edge Markets)From that posts, it says : 1) The government has raised the cap for voluntary retirement contribution for Employees Provident Fund (EPF) contributors to RM100,000 2) The second para, " The proposal comes as EPF also reported ....." So has it been raised? or is it just a proposal ?  The budget proposed was not passed. So we all can just ignore whatever was mentioned that day in parliament.
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