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honsiong
post Nov 12 2019, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Nov 12 2019, 11:01 PM)
i-Saraan Benefits
EPF Dividends: until age 100
EPF Death Benefit: RM2,500
EPF Incapacitation Benefit: RM5,000
EPF Tax Exemption: RM6k (shared with life insurance)**
2014-2017: Government matching contribution 10% up to RM120 (for up to RM1,200 contributed)
2018-2022: Government matching contribution 15% up to RM250 (for up to RM1,667 contributed)
Note: Government matching for contributors below age 55 only

https://mypf.my/investing/retire/sp1m/

** before the recent amendment?
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4k lah for 2019, 3k for life insurance separetely. So i-saraan got tax benefit after all?
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post Dec 30 2019, 11:20 AM

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QUOTE(blu3chip @ Dec 29 2019, 12:28 PM)
Thanks for the quick responses. so in order for us to enjoy FY2020 dividend, we should perform a bank transfer Tomorrow (30-Dec) or New Year (1-Jan) itself?
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There is a 2-3 days delay, you can just deposit and see if the transaction is recorded as 2019 or 2020 lor, but likely the latter.
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post Dec 30 2019, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Dec 30 2019, 11:27 AM)
if use online I-akaun to check, still need to wait as per the above to know the status?
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BTW the divs are prorated daily, if you deposit last minutes in 2019 you still get peanuts or nothing, might as well play safe and deposit in 2020 for tax relief benefits.
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post Oct 11 2022, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(Natsukashii @ Oct 11 2022, 09:19 AM)
Very hard to believe a lot of people have high contribution into EPF means high salary but still ask this question..

If self contribution limit is 100k, salary already contribute 60k.. can self contribute 40k only or still 100k?

The 100k is for self contribution. Even if your salary contributed 1m into EPF, you still can contribute another 100k on your own.
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I also find it hard to believe so many ppl invest so much in Malaysia and Ringgit denominated assets.

Like man, do you guys have contingencies for when MYR plummets?
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post Oct 11 2022, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Oct 11 2022, 12:52 PM)
I am not surprised. Lots of people are super conservative in sg Nd Malaysia. When FD rates drop, all crying.
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FD is just my CASA for emergency fund LOL. And got ppl here compare FD to EPF which has lots of equities + real estate exposure.
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post Oct 12 2022, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Oct 12 2022, 10:20 AM)
do you have contingencies if ringgit goes up ?

or Taxman eyeing your oversea remittance?

Some guy told me unless you are planning to live or  migrate oversea, parking money in oversea account isn't worth the risk of currency fluctuation, conversion commission, taxation scrutiny - you are better off with finding ringgit returns that beat inflation rate - which is what EPF is doing , no?
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This guy doesn't understand the concept of hedging.

Not diversifyingn currency means you are solely at the mercy of Malaysia BNM monetary policy and Putrajaya's fiscal policy.

By investing abroad, I am not betting if Malaysia will outperform or underperform, or if Malaysia currency will moon or doom, I am hedging against MYR to ensure total ruin does not happen to me personally.

EPF is denominated in MYR and unlike PRS, your portfolio doesn't fluctuate along with market condition. If MYR hyperinflates, your EPF and FD are done for.

Do you want to end up like people in Venezuela, Argentina, Zimbwabwe, Brazil, Weimar Republic, Colombia etc?


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post Oct 12 2022, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(Rinth @ Oct 12 2022, 10:49 AM)
I believe majority of average malaysian doesnt have the luxury to diversify their portfolio to overseas, or even have extra funds to perform currency hedging.....

What are the average Malaysia financial position? will have car loan, housing loan for own stay, maybe 1 more properties for investment...with the accrued loan and interest ongoing, normal average malaysian will priortising of settling their loan 1st before even think of investing/hedging abroad.....

And ya, i'm just another average malaysian.....
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Look, this thread's title is "EPF - Self contribution".

If one can put extra into EPF, they have extra funds. I am actually suggesting AGAINST putting extra into EPF because it's a risky move.

The self-contrib portion could have gone to robo-advisors low-mid risk portfolios and that's a good hedge against MYR. Most robos take deposits as low as RM 1~100.

Seriously if you can sendiri top up extra to EPF, you owe it to yourself to at least put a bit of $ in other places and not all in EPF.
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post Oct 13 2022, 04:21 AM

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Ramjade and I may not agree on certain things, but he understands what I am saying about hedging at least.

I am not saying to bet ON or AGAINST Malaysia economy, monetary and fiscal policies btw. I am merely saying you guys should at least put your hard earned $ in different places to not be ruined totally when Putrajaya screws up.

You should factor in the risk at the tail end. If so many countries can hyperinflate, or see their currency plummet so hard like GBP JPY, what makes you think Malaysia will never screw up in coming decades until your retirement?
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post Oct 14 2022, 11:53 AM

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QUOTE(AsiaPacificIB @ Oct 13 2022, 01:27 PM)
You may want to consider some open ended capital preserved bond fund.
Our bank currently offer some USD & MYR bond fund with a rate of ranging 5-8%p.a.

Money would be keeping offshore and is regulated under Malaysia authority which can be cross checked by anyone.
Welcome PM to know more if you are interested.
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If you aint scamming, you wont need people to PM you.

Why not buka thread and share websites, prospectus, fact sheets for us to see?
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post Oct 26 2022, 02:35 AM

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If it means EPF having less AUM and can generate better alpha, judging from this thread's sentiment, I support tiered dividend now.

 

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