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lyc1982
post Feb 20 2020, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Feb 14 2020, 12:10 AM)
For self contribution, bear in mind that you can only take it out when you age till 55. The money going to stuck there till you reach the retiring age. Unless you really have extra money, then can self contribute.. max rm60k per year.

I tried equity, didnt monitor much n got burnt, i pump some PRS just to reduce income tax but the PRS going stuck there till 55 n return juat maybe 3-4% pa... UT  tried that, also maybe 5% return but will up n down.. still hv risk.. very much depend timing..

Well, i prefer self cobtribute epf to top up my salary monthly contribution, as long as you pump it till more than 1mil, then the self contribution is like different game  means you can treat it like a safe no risk good return.

Anyway, just my view
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i never contributed PRS because the money can't be withdrawn until 55yo...so i parked my money elsewhere

QUOTE(PrincZe @ Feb 19 2020, 02:05 PM)
surely EPF will be better instrument to grow your money.

on the assumption , the interest rate for both are the same.

because u are starting off much higher amount and it compounds.

just as per others mentioned, you will not be able to withdraw.
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if epf is > rm1 mil, the extra money can be withdrawn at any time correct ?

btw...rm60k self contribution, what is the ratio for account 1 and 2 ?
lyc1982
post Feb 23 2020, 08:40 PM

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sifus sekalian...

need some help, i did a test rm10 top-up with cimbclicks last thursday...

but today i login to kwsp...the detail summary is not showing that rm10 top-up...can advise ?

thnx
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post Feb 23 2020, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(zapster79 @ Feb 23 2020, 10:21 PM)
It takes 2 working days to appear in your account. Try checking tomorrow.
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actually the top-up was done on last wednesday...already been 2 working days

lemme check epf account again tomorrow...
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post Feb 24 2020, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Feb 23 2020, 11:10 PM)
actually the top-up was done on last wednesday...already been 2 working days

lemme check epf account again tomorrow...
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hhm...i the top-up still not reflected on my account today......

so i sent an enquiry form to EPF...hopefully will get answer soon
lyc1982
post Feb 26 2020, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(zapster79 @ Feb 26 2020, 03:50 PM)
1. Standard ratio.
2. Account 2.
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but when i checked mine rm10 (test topup):
1. all under acc #2 (self)
2. acc #2 as well
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post Feb 27 2020, 10:37 AM

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QUOTE(kochin @ Feb 27 2020, 08:13 AM)
thanks for the replies.

so assuming if one does have more than RM1mil in epf, and he/she chooses to carry out self contribution of RM60k max, potential downside may be withdrawal of the self contribution amount may be capped to 30% of it in account 2 only if the self contribution is deposited and spread as per the ratio.
whatever self contribution that lands in account 1 will be permanent until the age limit is achieved, right?
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i have yet to test with big amount self-contribution...will see what is the ratio

having said that, if you check under "withdrawal eligibility", it shows anything excess of 1 mil can be withdrawn, i.e regardless which account (1 or 2)...as long as it's extra money > 1 mil, it can be withdrawn at will (based on my understanding)

but i may be wrong...any sifu here has tried withdrawing the excess money > 1 mil ? issit only limited to acc #2 ?

This post has been edited by lyc1982: Feb 27 2020, 10:40 AM
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post May 23 2020, 01:37 AM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 21 2020, 06:43 PM)
Any of you pumping more to EPF considering that FD rate is very low?
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i already maxed out my 60k this year...

btw if I accidentally contributed more than 60k (via cimb)...like rm10 extra , what would happen to the extra rm10 ?
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post May 26 2020, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Human Nature @ May 23 2020, 01:41 AM)
This post said will refund all the money from the latest contribution.

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=93140192
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my latest top-up was rm5k...that means rm5k would be refunded ?
these few days epf on holiday...no update on my account yet

QUOTE(doremon @ May 26 2020, 05:57 AM)
Meaning RM60,000.00k + 5% dividend (Assuming) = RM63,600.00 u'll be getting right ?
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ermm...i am not sure how to calculate the dividend
but don't think it would be 3.6k in dividend
i hope it's 5% too ! haha...

QUOTE(CyFrozenFoods @ May 26 2020, 10:25 AM)
Have you call to EPF customer service regarding this issue? Hope you could update here if you receive any feedback from EPF. Thanks.
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not yet, maybe tomorrow will try giving them a call..
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post May 28 2020, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ May 27 2020, 12:00 AM)
can you check online to see if that money is in?
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i made 8x rm5k via cimbcliks on 22/5...at this point of time, i accidentally deposited extra rm10 on the 8th transaction

only 7x rm5k shown in my epf account

till today i haven't received the rm5k (8th transaction) back in my cimb account...given 25 & 26 May are public holidays

should i call ?
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post May 28 2020, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(magika @ May 28 2020, 12:54 PM)
I was at the kwsp counter a number of years ago depositing , when the counter told me to be careful not deposit above the max limit as the amount will be "tergantung" , whatever it means .
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that means i need to pay a visit to kwsp counter...sigh


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post Jun 4 2020, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ May 28 2020, 01:27 PM)
that means i need to pay a visit to kwsp counter...sigh
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just to update here:

i went to epf office, and was informed i need to call epf hotline to check

but epf hotline not entertaining epf self contribution matter until cmco is over...

while my rm5k still stuck somewhere after 7 working days

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post Jun 5 2020, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Jun 5 2020, 10:07 AM)
I once tried to transfer $5 into my EPF (for testing purposes to find out what happens if I accidentally over-credited more than allowed),
even though already maxed out $60K annual limit.

A lady from EPF phoned me and asked for me for my bank account for her to transfer it back.
She then emailed to me and I responded, the 5 bucks was duly returned to my bank account within 2 weeks, followed up a letter from EPF saying the 5 bucks was credited back to me.
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until now nobody from epf called me yet...epf informed that self contribution section not operating yet till 8th june

but with your feedback i am glad it can be resolved
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post Jun 5 2020, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 5 2020, 06:37 PM)
On 9Aug2019, i contributed excess of rm5k. On 16Aug, they called me and then follow up by an email to my registered email. They need veeification for you to reply their email..

"Mohon tuan/puan kemukakan maklumat-maklumat berikut untuk tujuan pengembalian bayaran berkenaan :-

a.    Alamat terkini ahli
b.    Nombor akaun bank ahli yang masih aktif
c.    Nama Bank (bagi no.akaun bank tersebut) 
d.    No Telefon

Untuk sebarang pertaanyaan, sila hubungi Pn. Haliza Zainuddin di talian 03-2694 8566 (samb. 2619)"

They are very helpful. I suggest you can call them for the KL branch provided this lady still handle this matter
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i did call KL branch for this matter...however they only handle i-lestari matter for now

only after 8th june onward will they entertain self contribution matter...

but my 5k is stuck in another dimension...
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post Jun 10 2020, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 5 2020, 06:37 PM)
On 9Aug2019, i contributed excess of rm5k. On 16Aug, they called me and then follow up by an email to my registered email. They need veeification for you to reply their email..

"Mohon tuan/puan kemukakan maklumat-maklumat berikut untuk tujuan pengembalian bayaran berkenaan :-

a.    Alamat terkini ahli
b.    Nombor akaun bank ahli yang masih aktif
c.    Nama Bank (bagi no.akaun bank tersebut) 
d.    No Telefon

Untuk sebarang pertaanyaan, sila hubungi Pn. Haliza Zainuddin di talian 03-2694 8566 (samb. 2619)"

They are very helpful. I suggest you can call them for the KL branch provided this lady still handle this matter
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did they ask for bank transaction as evidence...?

they requested for mine

is it safe to share my bank transactions to them ?
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post Jun 14 2020, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(KIP21 @ Jun 14 2020, 10:42 AM)
They didnt asked me previously.

I think should be safe as its just like a transaction, like you made a payment and share the transaction detail to a friend. Do make sure they didnt ask you for login and password 😅
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just to update:
i sent them a screenshot of the said transaction and a form...

few days later the money has been credited back into my cimb...along with extra money !

haha...
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post Jun 14 2020, 09:58 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 14 2020, 04:09 PM)
so how many days from over contribution of >60k to finally get back the returns into your bank account?
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from the day i furnished them with the form and transaction info...about 4 days
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post Jun 14 2020, 10:17 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Jun 14 2020, 10:05 PM)
that was fast...
they return just the "extra" RM10 (exceeded RM60k) or the whole sum of the last transaction?
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whole sum of the last transaction...

so i need to transfer the exact correct amount this time to avoid getting the money stuck in nowhere

 

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