Why U buy Cyberjaya?

Why U not buy? Opinion is welcome too.

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This post has been edited by xyyap: Sep 22 2013, 11:19 PM

buy to rent to foreigner ...
not buy bcos many Black there

cyberjaya now become afrikaan town?

Our money is limited. I won't buy Cyberjaya because I feel that I have other better choices for my limited money. Cyberjaya developments need to add one notch of value for me to feel worthwhile.

Now Bandar Puteri Puchong PFCC also MSC status, except rental on the high side. 4.5psf.

So, bandar puteri become next cyberjaya... hahaha.

I was sceptical cbj last time. however, after doing lots of minor researches, I found out the place will soon attract a lot of people due to amenities and the expats community. please be careful that this still requires lot of time for the town to really mature. therefore buy those projects to be completed way way back like skypark for instance. I bought that also because I believe it is one of a kind and will be considered landmrk of cbj. if u want to invest in cbj now, go for cyberia. that is the best in my opinion for student rental. but be prepared for student abusing ur unit

+1 ...

i edi working at cyberjaya for almost 3 years, cyberjaya is extremely development compare to years before...good prospect for targeting expat and student

the day i saw a news article in cyberjaya that some pak hitam buried a dog into a sewerage manholes. Nowaday still got people wanna vest in cyberjaya? Anyone heard when MRT or LRT will reach there?

"Soon will be developed" is one thing.. but how much you can gain from buying at future pricing is another consideration..
for me, the return figure over a period is my concern as an investor, whether for cap appreciation or rental yield..
Cyberjaya is still a tricky place as there are still plenty more to be developed, and all developers are selling at KL/PJ pricing..

As a person who had spent 8 years of my life in Cyberjaya, I am more confident in looking at pocket development in KL area especially those near good amenities and future public transport.. hey, there r also 500/sqft in KL, same as Cyberjaya..

my2c..

Soon 1 more race will arise in peninsular malaysia apart from majority malay, chinese and indian. african will join as african malaysian. nice G. very nice move. WTF man!

I have a feeling that african population in klang valley has overtake indian population. If this situation continue for next few year probably they can overtake chinese as second majority in KV.

According to global survey, despite China n India has the highest population, African countries has the highest population growth.. Soon, they will be like Chinese and Indian, they are everywhere, everycorner around the world (this hold true for Chinese and Indian community in everycorner on earth).. African will be next..

I will rather use the $$$ n invest in other places rather than this Cyberjaya that is need time to grow and whether will success or not is a question mark there....Nah......wouldnt go there.

CBJ is a nice place to stay in. If still hv bullets, will consider sub-sale only.

i study in mmu,byk negro la,haiya!

interesting read; today's report.

http://www.onlinenigeria.com/population/?blurb=132

haha yeah, in fact i can see a lot more of arabs and africans than us malaysians here

I am ok if their behaviours are ok but this isnt the case. Always play loud music early morning, sometimes late at night. Then some more become drug dealer, cheat our stupid malaysians girls, then drive like lunatics. haiiyooo.

I have difference view.

Believe in long run, it will be a place for local.

I will not buy a place, because of foreigner reason like Iskandar.

My money is limited too. Else, I will buy Damansara.

Many people money is limited too.

If I want to play rental, I will buy Singapore.

Malaysia? U can only play capital gain.

I will not buy highrise, but I see highrise will make Cyberjaya a happening place.

I will say most Malaysian is driver from the age of 16.

I do see the condo development is like Mount Kiara.

It has pros & cons. So long it is being developed, it is a good sign.

Yup, everywhere takes time so does Cyberjaya.

I m working in Cyberjaya for about 3 years now...
The place is good. but the down part is the food la...
Not many choices and u will not have vavi here...

On weekends, it's peaceful...
If you would like a peaceful life then u can think about it

Shopping complex is under construction now..

haha .. LOL, location of 2 and nearby amenities are big differences ..
my 2 cents.

very very risky place but we never know what will happen in 5 years time but the pricing that is currently in Cyber looks like the price of the property in Cyber after 5 years time

The only problem I see in Cyberjaya is the future pricing that it is selling at for its location & uncertainty in developments. For one to swallow that one needs to be loaded enough. That is why I prefer to park my money else where.

ya there is a high end housing area coming up there... but for me i will still think twice... although development of more commercial lot and entertainment outlet coming up soon.. the "Black" there still somehow degrade the whole place..

thx to these young and unmatured mindset people behind the wheel of protong, fatal accident increased rapidly.

anyone know whose idea to have MSC status cybercities & cybercentres other than Cyberjaya?

TPM

the key test about cbj is " will you stay there" and i doubt many owners will raise their hands......tats the problem about cbj at the moment

I see potential at cyberjaya..tats y vested a pigeon holethole there recently..part of my passive income portfolio..there is risk..but I start to like living in cyberjaya..it's like setia alam, far-away from city..with own large park n mall (coming soon). But in addition with plenty corporate companies, higher education institution, private/public school n improved public transportation..I see it slowly shaping from a no man land to next place to lIve..slow but there is future...

when & which TPM?
what is the point of having cyberjaya whereas companies can enjoy MSC status in other cybercities & cybercentres all over the country?

This post has been edited by mecn04: Aug 30 2012, 12:54 AM

Cbj now = nothing. cbj in 5 years time and above = cun. up to u to decide.

Technology park Malaysia lor..

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G Tower
Bangsar South
Mid Valley
KL Sentral
PFCC
I-City

It's good to diversify traffic rather than focusing in only 1 area.
Some more existing and pending for approval?

I also think Cyberjaya will be a better place for living.

It have good town planning.

Good town planning never go wrong in long run.

In my many years of working in Cyberjaya, I can really see that it has grown with accelerated rate for the past 2 years. There are many big player developer that has entered Cyberjaya and mind you, they are investors too who predicts Cyberjaya like us but with better insider knowledge. SP Setia, Mah Sing, UEM, OSK, Glomac, MCT, Paramount, IOI (16 sierra, though considered puchong),..etc. Road infra is there and will be developed more. I've read another person's comment and re-emphasize it again; even if it is not related to MSC status, the many highway infrastructure connecting it would boom this township.

They have ample land to slice and dice development with proper planning. Every new township will start with doubts for sure. I remember many years back when USJ started, many doubted it saying it is far. Setia Alam was being developed and many again doubted, even further Putra Heights formed and again the same doubt. Review them again today.

If you've visited some property launches nowadays, you'll find something like "XX minutes to KL, XX minutes to PJ, XX minutes to Cyberjaya" . Cyberjaya is made as point of reference for many launches.

Drive around, you'll see starbucks, burger king, cimb, maybank, hsbc, pizza hut, kfc, papa rich, old town, secret recipi..etc.

Perhaps something like a hypermart, mid cost shops, branded malls ..etc would boost Cyberjaya to be self contain.

Yup, location wise Mount Kiara is far better.

Find a new landed house @ Damansara? I really have limited money lol.

Of course, many who buy Cyberjaya, do not mind travel to KL via MEX. Without MEX, I will not buy too.

Nowadays, only dreamer buy launch sell VP.

Yes, u got to have holding power.

If anyone buying Cyberjaya because of MSC, I will advise him to stay away.

As a buyer of Cyberjaya, I wish IOI City Mall can do like 1 Utama.

+1 I guess we shouldn't help those who didn't ever bother to do homework, just stay away and buy property at other area Cyberjaya playground isn't that big and can't sustain so many player anyway.Yes they are right, Midvalley , mont kiara , KLCC , hartamas, bangsar , KL sentral is the best playground , so go play there

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Added on August 30, 2012, 3:21 pmand Puchong as well , Cheers

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 30 2012, 03:21 PM

stay away from cyberjaya. give more choices to those who want to invest. kekeke

guess you also experience it right? the 'kuih' sold out within days after launching (during festival season summore) i read at your other post

ya lor. fed up. I have got to buy sure mati "14", not so good feng shui just to stay away from the garbage collection area. why? because they launched during hari raya. yes, bumi also learn about feng shui, bad numbers etc.

Dun worry bro, the entire place have very good 'fengshui' middle of most major city It will give alot of 'ong' to your place

AMINT, wanted111who...ah...i see that you were buying kuih also before the hari raya.

Too bad, i didn't get a chance to order the kuih also, cos all kena sapu. Delicious one, not so delicious looking one also taken. *sigh*, makcik and pakcik say the next batch of kuih is around Oct-Nov. Some peranakan baba nonya kuih and western ones desserts too.

Lets hope people all go on year end holiday and not around to order the kuih la.

+1 kalau macam ini , amacam harga 'kuih' tak naik ? lolz

Dreaming when they have the YES (Year End Sale) on the kuih.....ya right.
I wonder if the Kuih is still edible after 3 years, since lots of other sellers also selling kuih there, but of course not as delicious.

"14" still ok. "1458" then bad lor.... whole life can't "fat"..

the progress of development in there is not as fast as in KL area

ya lor. Thats why I said stay away from Cyberjaya. Leave it to the investors who are interested.

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Added on August 30, 2012, 5:59 pmNot ok bro. Usually it is a taboo for me to buy any house with 4, 13, 31,22 etc. When I was queuing for Ayu Impian, I pangkah all of those number. Then a guy at the back of me said, wahhh why pangkah all.huhu. But this time i have got no choice. What to do.

This post has been edited by AMINT: Aug 30 2012, 06:01 PM

why 13 (must live) also ?? mind to share??

How about no 23? Is is a taboo?

cyberjaya sucks ! no cheap food, no cheap entertainment etc.

Let bukit jalil be next cyberjaya ! It already has technology park malaysia

you can find cheap food and entertainment and good transport (LRT) in bukit jalil.

can u find these in cyberjaya ?

This post has been edited by jalsrix: Aug 30 2012, 06:38 PM

Since I am a bumi, I also take into consider mat salleh taboo, 13. heheh. a house in subang jaya does not carry no.13 but no.11a. more over 1+3 = 4.

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Added on August 30, 2012, 6:39 pmgood point, stay away from cyberjaya

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Added on August 30, 2012, 6:40 pmfor me it is not. why 23? micheal jordan number woo.

This post has been edited by AMINT: Aug 30 2012, 06:40 PM

pkns have big projects in cyberjaya..
oredi started the progress..

science park malaysia. the buildings damn nice. but leasehold

No cannot and forever dun have any stay far away from CBJ is the best for you and also me

This post has been edited by wanted111who: Aug 30 2012, 07:13 PM

heard that segi will open their campus there..
segi + mmu..
ok what starting to invest there..

AMINT and wanted111who, your guys are my hero. Simply because bold to publish things as the way they seem to you ( no nonsense people) and all the "entrapments"..LOL.

Huhu. Everyone knows that there are no perfect properties. When we buy a property, we dont listen to massess blindly. Based on our findings, we have to be confident.

I also wish Cyberjaya will prosper ..

The idea living in Singapore, staying at peaceful place walking to amenities.

The idea living in KL, staying at peaceful place driving to amenities.

"Yes they are right, Midvalley , mont kiara , KLCC , hartamas, bangsar , KL sentral is the best playground"
>>> Can find me a decent link villa with 1.3 M budget?

"14" == 一世无忧

Eco Glades?

We got 1 Mainland link villa, but she likes the Charm of Nusantara, anyone willing to swap with us?

Nowadays even people are on holiday, they can still buy kuih. We got it during our vacation, all thanks to her brother who represent us.

This post has been edited by xyyap: Aug 31 2012, 10:45 AM

Merdeka!

2020 to make Malaysia well developed country?

8 more years of inflation & money depreciation likely.

Agree not for those who want something cheap.

Yup, u can drive to Puchong.

It will, it takes time, holding power is the key.

puchong is another town and not in cyberjaya. furthermore, it is NOT near.

puchong seem near bcos there is a highway but what if petrol price goes up very high in future ?

It depends on which puchong area u are talking about. If IOI mall part, yes 15 minutes. But if BP newtown ( new tesco, wharf, millenia), then only 5 minutes drive via LDP south toll

For how long do you think?

i reckon above 5 years should be sufficient

5 mins ?

You speeding at 150km/hr and no jam ?

I go from BP to cyberjaya also need half an hour with normal traffic riding at 80kph. (speed limit)

Where got ma. I am staying in puchong and when i was working in klcc, I took MEX everyday. cyberjaya so near la. I can almost guarantee u no jam from LDP south toll to cyberjaya. Almost 6 years staying here. that place has never been jam. jam part is towards bandar puteri and IOI

This post has been edited by AMINT: Aug 31 2012, 01:09 PM

So will the house price too.

Understand inflation & u will know why.

8 years to 2020.

When there's no jam, 15 mins drive (80-100 kph) from Cyber to IOI mall is achievable.

bullshit, i use to stay a BP, this is not possible...even no jam, not car maybe possible. haha

Agreed!

U can have your opinion. That was mine as I have tested it many times.

You lucky sob hehe. I hope to get the nusantara ones too. But not so lucky, nothing to swap with. Balinese kuih all finished.

The most important skill for investor is to leverage on other skill , money,time and people . and you leverage on other people and their time, the highest leverage skill of all other and the most difficult to master also you must be a boss (owner) of your company right?

LiuLi YouMei, the only cons is backing highway.

I hope so, still a working employee in Singapore, future wish to start own business in KL.

i just got back from cyber. I was shocked to see people parked outside of lim kok wing kau2 at illegal parking space. making me regret didnt buy " the place". huhu

This post has been edited by AMINT: Sep 3 2012, 03:09 PM

Must put more "pondok polis" there

Pondok polis also I dont think will do any good. look at lorong haji taib. there is a pondok polis smacked in the middle of prostitution area but prostitutes finding customer right in front of pondok polis. kekekek. Anyway on blackie, I think malaysians have to face the fact that there will be a 4th majority race. haiii paiseh

People says nobody at night loh.

Although I don't like too crowded place, but it will still become sooner or later.

Went to drive around Cyberjaya last weekend after all the hype about developments going on there. Initially, I wasn't quite convinced that it will be anything big (at least not soon) but looking further ahead and after checking out all the projects there, I've changed my thoughts.

Here's my thoughts (critics and comments welcomed!) :

I feel there is a potential for it to be something 'big' - question is whether it will be 3 years, 5 years or 10 years, but personally it's a matter of time. Here's why I've said that. The fundamentals are there. The government has a big commitment to develop Cyberjaya due to their 'promise' to many MNCs already there, so they cannot afford this to fail. Many large developers (SP Setia, Mah Sing, OSK etc) are already present there so there must be strong fundamentals going forward. It will be a matter of time before the demand here picks up and prices soar. Time is the only variable but I think it will be within the next 10 years.

So I think it all boils down one thing - do I have the holding power if I invest in a property here? This is where I find Cyberjaya unqiue. Unlike earlier successful development townships (Kota Kemuning, Desa Park City, Setia Alam etc etc) where rental demand initially is very poor (you buy and expect little or no rental initially), Cyberjaya ALREADY has good demand for rental market (especially students and employees in Cyberjaya). However, this applies only to selected types of properties like apartments. This is the key point to me - if I buy say an apartment now, I can quite easily rent it out, and provided the rental justifies the purchase price, this property will be 'self-sustainable'. I just have to wait till the right time (ie 3 years, 5 years, 10 years??) and dispose it later.

So, in summary, if you are confident that Cyberjaya will eventually become BIG and there is NOW good market rental that gives a self-sustaining investment, then it seems like a green light for me.

Time to check out some projects

This post has been edited by redman33: Sep 4 2012, 01:48 PM

Nice write up. I have seen a lot of dev in Cyb in the recent year or two. But I am worried with the oversupply of service apartments, SOHO and the likes. I have seen even at 450sq there are 3 rooms! Like what some guys/girls (and also you) have said ... must be able to hold. I think in 3 years time, there might be tons of apartments to choose from for rental. Where the students/young adults choose is as good as anyone's guess. I would think the nearest to their college/work place. But even that is not that true. Neo/Vita/D'Pulze/S'bury/GP/Pangea/Place all coming "online" about the same time. Not sure if the buildings that comes "online" later i.e 4-5 years time, would be a better buy (skypark)? What you guys think?

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This post has been edited by tingc: Sep 4 2012, 02:56 PM

I personally think this oversupply concern is a chicken and egg situation... there are actually quite a lot of people working in Cyberjaya but most live outside Cyberjaya (ie day population >> night population). Most people tends to live near their workplace but we all know why most employees in Cyberjaya don't - mainly because there is not enough 'lifestyle' (shopping malls, restaurants, cafes, entertainment outlets etc).

There is currently about only 10,000 people living in Cyberjaya with 3200 residential units (that's average of 3 person per unit). That definately sounds to me as shortage of residential properties in Cyberjaya, for NOW.

By 2016, there will be 14,000 residentail units available. The current daytime population is about 54,000 people and is expect to grow to 100,000 by 2016 when more companies and new tertiary institutions opened in Cyberjaya (already in the pipeline).

Simple mathematics tells me that even only 20% of the 100,000 people by 2016 choose to live in Cyberjaya, there will still be a resident population of 20,000. Divide that by the 14,000 residential units available by 2016 gives you 1.4 person per unit. Remember 20% is very conversative as we would expect a higher percentage of daytime population to choose to live in Cyberjaya by 2016 when the 'lifestyle' is made available then.

I did not simply come out with the numbers above - picked it from the following sources (unless the numbers in the sources are not correct la)

http://www.mmail.com.my/story/cyberjaya-quiet-no-more
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberjaya

So will there be an oversupply? Answer is yes and no depending on how confident you are with Cyberjaya having it's own 'lifestyle' by 2016. If you drive around and look at the type of projects going on there, you'll know the answer. One thing is for sure, there ARE a lot of people already working in Cyberjaya - just a question of whether they will choose to live there.

By the way, I'm not attached to any organisation, and not promoting Cyberjaya. I also started being very doubtful about Cyberjaya but the facts are interesting - I'm just a normal joe who is keen with property investments and love crunching numbers to look at the facts. At the end of the day, numbers are only guidelines