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 Why U buy Cyberjaya?

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post Sep 4 2012, 02:46 PM

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Added on September 4, 2012, 2:55 pm
QUOTE(redman33 @ Sep 4 2012, 01:48 PM)
Went to drive around Cyberjaya last weekend after all the hype about developments going on there. Initially, I wasn't quite convinced that it will be anything big (at least not soon) but looking further ahead and after checking out all the projects there, I've changed my thoughts.

Here's my thoughts (critics and comments welcomed!) :

I feel there is a potential for it to be something 'big' - question is whether it will be 3 years, 5 years or 10 years, but personally it's a matter of time. Here's why I've said that. The fundamentals are there. The government has a big commitment to develop Cyberjaya due to their 'promise' to many MNCs already there, so they cannot afford this to fail. Many large developers (SP Setia, Mah Sing, OSK etc) are already present there so there must be strong fundamentals going forward. It will be a matter of time before the demand here picks up and prices soar. Time is the only variable but I think it will be within the next 10 years.

So I think it all boils down one thing - do I have the holding power if I invest in a property here? This is where I find Cyberjaya unqiue. Unlike earlier successful development townships (Kota Kemuning, Desa Park City, Setia Alam etc etc) where rental demand initially is very poor (you buy and expect little or no rental initially), Cyberjaya ALREADY has good demand for rental market (especially students and employees in Cyberjaya). However, this applies only to selected types of properties like apartments. This is the key point to me - if I buy say an apartment now, I can quite easily rent it out, and provided the rental justifies the purchase price, this property will be 'self-sustainable'. I just have to wait till the right time (ie 3 years, 5 years, 10 years??) and dispose it later.

So, in summary, if you are confident that Cyberjaya will eventually become BIG and there is NOW good market rental that gives a self-sustaining investment, then it seems like a green light for me.

Time to check out some projects  smile.gif
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This post has been edited by tingc: Sep 4 2012, 02:56 PM
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post Sep 5 2012, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(oreomambo @ Sep 5 2012, 03:18 PM)
xyyap , if you don't want your SEG kuih and betting your luck with the next batch from the oven, you can pass on to me smile.gif ..the more the merrier.

I believe Cyberjaya will have an upbeat time ahead. As for those harping for the need of LRT on this area to be "wong", not every place needed LRT to grow, esp for those higher end area. Imagine sticking an LRT station in the middle of the Tropicana or setia eco park, or desa park city. These areas can grow with the affluent without the need of LRT.
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No need to wait for LRT or MRT... there is already a KLIA Transit station (Station Name : Putrajaya/Cyberjaya), which is just 10 mins drive away from Cyberjaya City Centre smile.gif Putrajay/Cyberjaya Station ---> KL Sentral in only 17 minutes at RM 9.50 one way, and in a ultra modern and comfortable train. No need to cramp into LRT/MRT. Frequency is every 30 mins during off peak. Of coz cannot compare with LRT/MRT's frequency la

Now that would be another good reason to stay in Cyberjaya smile.gif

This post has been edited by tingc: Sep 5 2012, 04:26 PM
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post Sep 5 2012, 07:48 PM

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QUOTE(nkhong @ Sep 5 2012, 05:15 PM)
The transit station is not walking distance from cyberjaya. You need to take taxi which will cost you around RM10. or Take bus to that station.
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You need to take taxi which will cost you around RM10
----> exactly! which is why I've mentioned its a 10 mins drive from Cyberjaya City Centre. The point is, there is already a convenient (and high speed) public transport to KL Sentral. Driving short distance to LRT/MRT/KTM stations is quite common which is where the feeder bus concept comes in eg in Subang Jaya KTM, Kelana Jaya LRT. Not every properties nearby these stations are within walking distance to the station, but at least there is a station reachable within 10 mins by car, and that's the same case with Cyberjaya.


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post Sep 7 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Sep 7 2012, 10:26 AM)
+1 ..


Added on September 7, 2012, 10:27 am

agree with redman..
Cyberia is purely for rental play.. appreciation not that great.. student rental property usually dont appreciate much nor outperform compared to own stay properties..
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Hi twincharger, so any good recommendations on good own stay properties in Cyberjaya? smile.gif
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post Sep 23 2012, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(1282009 @ Sep 23 2012, 12:09 AM)
U bought after visited the "fair"? Is there any crowd?
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I was there today... quite nice setup, different from the usual all-in-one-big-hall kind of arrangement with packed booths. It's kinda setup in a relaxing environment. By the way, for those who are still interested to go, I recommend going for the 1 hour free bus tour of Cyberjaya where you will be taken on a ride around Cyberjaya to see all the projects that are going on with short briefing. All in the comfort of the coach.

Sunday 23 Sep is the last day. Have fun guys!
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post Sep 23 2012, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(worgen @ Sep 23 2012, 10:19 AM)
Cyberjaya will be over supply in next 2 years whn all the projects launched in 2010/2011 completed. Is it doable to invest here? Expecting stiff competition coming soon.
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Understand your concern on oversupply, Worgen. Would you mind sharing why you think there will be an oversupply issue? Perhaps there are something that you know which we all don't know.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not doubting your statement but I just feel amazed at how people simply use the word 'oversupply' of properties in certain development area, without sharing the facts and figures.

My understanding is, ther current daytime population in Cyberjaya is 54,000 with only 10,000 residents chose to live there (ie night time population). There are about 3200 residential units in Cyberjaya NOW which works out to be an average of 3 person occupying one unit. So thw facts and figures show that there is currently shortage of residential properties in Cyberjaya.

By 2016, the daytime population in Cyberjaya is expected to increase to 100,000 due to the increase in number of MNCs, SMEs and educational institutions. Let's assume 20% of the 100,000 daytime population decides to live in Cyberjaya (that is already very conservative and actual percentage will depends on how Cyberjaya developed into a lifestyle township by 2016) - that will mean there is a projected 20,000 residents (ie night time population in Cyberjaya).

By 2016, with all the projects currently in the pipeline being completed, there will be a total of 14,000 residential units. So we are looking at 20,000 residents to 14,000 residential units by 2016 which works out to an average of 1.4 people per unit. I don't know about you but this doesn't sound like an oversupply to me. Remember there will also be a preference on certain types of residential properties eg apartments, bungalows, terrace house etc, so there may also be a concentration of preference towards certain quarters of property type, which will add on to the shortage.

Unless we have another 10-15 projects being launched over the next 1-2 years, based on the facts and figures above, oversupply doesn't seem to be an issue now. On the contrary, a shortage of supply MAY be possible if you digest the numbers above.

Of course, the economics of property market is not purely science as it also depends on a lot of other factors but I am just sharing the facts and figures to help investors out there to make a sound decision. Being an investor myself, I'm happy to exchange sharing as I am also learning stuff everyday smile.gif

This post has been edited by tingc: Sep 23 2012, 10:47 AM

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