In my many years of working in Cyberjaya, I can really see that it has grown with accelerated rate for the past 2 years. There are many big player developer that has entered Cyberjaya and mind you, they are investors too who predicts Cyberjaya like us but with better insider knowledge. SP Setia, Mah Sing, UEM, OSK, Glomac, MCT, Paramount, IOI (16 sierra, though considered puchong),..etc. Road infra is there and will be developed more. I've read another person's comment and re-emphasize it again; even if it is not related to MSC status, the many highway infrastructure connecting it would boom this township.

They have ample land to slice and dice development with proper planning. Every new township will start with doubts for sure. I remember many years back when USJ started, many doubted it saying it is far. Setia Alam was being developed and many again doubted, even further Putra Heights formed and again the same doubt. Review them again today.

If you've visited some property launches nowadays, you'll find something like "XX minutes to KL, XX minutes to PJ, XX minutes to Cyberjaya" . Cyberjaya is made as point of reference for many launches.

Drive around, you'll see starbucks, burger king, cimb, maybank, hsbc, pizza hut, kfc, papa rich, old town, secret recipi..etc.

Perhaps something like a hypermart, mid cost shops, branded malls ..etc would boost Cyberjaya to be self contain.

AMINT, wanted111who...ah...i see that you were buying kuih also before the hari raya.

Too bad, i didn't get a chance to order the kuih also, cos all kena sapu. Delicious one, not so delicious looking one also taken. *sigh*, makcik and pakcik say the next batch of kuih is around Oct-Nov. Some peranakan baba nonya kuih and western ones desserts too.

Lets hope people all go on year end holiday and not around to order the kuih la.

Dreaming when they have the YES (Year End Sale) on the kuih.....ya right.
I wonder if the Kuih is still edible after 3 years, since lots of other sellers also selling kuih there, but of course not as delicious.

You lucky sob hehe. I hope to get the nusantara ones too. But not so lucky, nothing to swap with. Balinese kuih all finished.

xyyap , if you don't want your SEG kuih and betting your luck with the next batch from the oven, you can pass on to me ..the more the merrier.

I believe Cyberjaya will have an upbeat time ahead. As for those harping for the need of LRT on this area to be "wong", not every place needed LRT to grow, esp for those higher end area. Imagine sticking an LRT station in the middle of the Tropicana or setia eco park, or desa park city. These areas can grow with the affluent without the need of LRT.

Bro, look at it this way

10 years ago = 100% ppl think that cyberjaya has no potential
5 years ago = 85% ppl think that cyberjaya has no potential
now = 60% ppl think that cyberjaya has no potential (at least how i feel from a balance of hater and supporter)

hey, it is moving....

"annual interest charge 1.5%" ? Are you referring to Singapore mortgage interest rate which is much lower than msia? I believe you are referring to mortgage within SG, and not cross border on SEG. Interest rate here in Msia still on the high side as compared to SG.

To be frank, if there is one LRT station here, it would take you very long time to reach to your destination (esp in KL) which would create lots of stops in between. Better take the ERL. KL Sentral----Bandar Tasik Selatan---Putrajaya . Much higher speed.
The next nearest would probably be in Putra Heights by the time it completes. You can count the number of stations it would have to stop and the journey duration.

I am only eyeing at SEG ..and particular units type and location only. Sticking to my objective. If unable to get one, then have to move bullets elsewhere.

Lake units.

Wa bro, better teach me forex and make $ during these volatile period. I want to stay in SEG and become your neighbourhood

V-City; Looks like a spot diagonal or opposite The Place. Using the u-turn in front of The Place from time to time till today. Did not see any activity there, nor barricades.

The project seems quite massive (almost bangsar south or icon city alike). Not sure if we have enough demand to fill the offering.

Expats in Msia doesn't necessarily have to be concentrated in KL or area around KLCC. MNC companies are spread across klang valley. Mid Valley Gardens, Bangsar, Cyberjaya, KL Sentral..etc. So not necessarily the expats will be paying premium just to stay near KLCC and still enjoy the standstill traffic.

Also Expats in SG are mostly for APAC regional operations compared to msia.

You have to understand that the "other" forum is mainly investor tai kors. They might not see CBJ in longer run yet as short term value to materialize is not ommph enough. Hence longer term holding power is a must here, where the sifus might be more interested with the moolah elsewhere for faster gain.

While here, i can see quite a number of people would purchase a unit to stay or retire. There are some investors aiming to rent *cough* , or flip *cough* *cough*, but a good mixture for those who prefer this place to stay.

I for one would prefer to move from everything-is-there-but-jammed-all-day-and-day PJ to this place (provided i am able to grab an SEG island unit).

If i have the moolah like Soros (until he teaches me forex), then i might even get two



* Since i've not owned any CBJ units yet, this posting is not considered shiok sendiri.

Ok ok, you too, international estate tai kor tai tai.

Those are for left over units of Liu Li and Lepironia. From what i know, 3% rebate for buying 2nd unit for Lepironia , or 2% for Liu Li.

3% for Lepironia is almost a 50k rebate and taken off from the 10% dp. Provided if you are buying the 2nd unit. Incentive only targeting a very narrow group of soros class individuals.

Bro Soros, did u miss the boat?

Hmm, as of mid nov, there were only about 4 more Liu Li left which i was contacted by SA.

2 x You Mei
2 x Huan Xi

All of them next to the road. Could be lesser now.

As for Lepironia, there were about 15 units left back then. Quite a number actually. None on the middle units, everything next to the road.

Anyone wanna let go island, let me know . I wanna be Robinson Crusoe..

Yeah, somehow quite a lot of SP units in SEG are bordering the road, and they are not internal roads. Mostly are trunk roads like Persiaran Semarak Api, linkaran putrajaya. Even the road inside SEG might even get heavier traffic if folks are using it to shortcut from Semarak Api to Mex...unless the internal SEG road is only for residence.

With given the limited choices, those Ludwigia next to guardhouse might be the least risk to traffic noise as they serve vehicle only for the internal precinct.

Even those island units near the internal road separated by a small lakeside/longkang isn't spared by traffic noise.

Somehow high end residence usually have those high powered cars that comes with irritating decibels....

My current residence is facing a trunk road at the rear. Definitely having more than 80 feet of greens now. Doesn't help alot with the noise. The wall might work a bit. Had to revamp the windows with sound absorption. Won't clear the sound fully. Those noise from revving trucks (low frequency), Ferrari and rempits still get into the bedroom from ceiling and hallow brick walls. Maybe i should move to space.

Wa, this discussion has turn quite "domestic" now.

After reading this thread, my wife is saying "when you guys decide to move to new "wife" (property) in Cyberjaya, does it mean that you are dumping your old "wife" (present location)?"

So, let wife be wife, and property be property. Before we all have to justify that question above.

Back to CBJ, I was checking out SH and MBTL. Quite like SH (growing on me more than SEG). Maybe because it is something that i can see and touch as compared to SEG. Also maybe because I am concerned about the Semarak Api short cut via internal SEG road to MEX. However SH monthly maintenance is whopping $600-800 per month, and that is even excluding 100+ for the club house.

As for MBTL, kinda find it odd that condo folks can just roam around the link villa without and access restriction. They could virtually walk right to your main door (since without perimeter fencing), lawn your backyard, collect your letter, pretend to be your gardener....etc.