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post Jun 9 2011, 10:36 AM, updated 15y ago

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11/6/2011 12:00 PM

Potential savings for ISPs

KUALA LUMPUR: Internet service providers (ISPs) can potentially save more by paying less for international gateway and also reduce bandwidth congestions on their network following the instruction to block access to 10 peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing sites.

Analysts said more than 65% of all Internet traffic today stemmed from P2P file-sharing applications and if data consumption was lowered, it would result in ISPs paying less for their international gateway.

An international gateway allows voice and data traffic to pass through from one country to another.
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P2P hosting sites allow users to download files such as music, movies, and games using a file sharing software that searches for other connected computers.

The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has received a request from the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry to prevent access to 10 websites that it found to have contravened the Copyright Act 1987. The commission has requested all ISPs to block access to those websites.

While ISPs could potentially stand to save more from paying high international gateway, an analyst said if the number of requests for overseas content was lower, there would not be any economies of scale resulting in service providers paying higher prices for international gateway.

He pointed out that just two months ago, Konsortium Rangkaian Serantau Sdn Bhd was set up to buy international bandwidth for Internet traffic in bulk to lower the costs of Internet protocol (IP) transit.

Concurrently, the move could also “hinder revenue” from subscribers as there are lesser means for data consumption.

It could also potentially lead to the termination of services by subscribers. Some ISPs earn additional revenue when subscribers run out of quota and decide to upgrade their broadband quotas.

A bank-backed analyst said that users would not just terminate their services just because the sites were blocked, adding that a minority group of users were hogging the bulk of network usage for such downloads.

The local service providers with their own international gateway points are Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™, Maxis Bhd, Time dotCom Bhd and U Mobile Sdn Bhd.

TM currently has control over most of the international gateways, landing points and bandwidth.

The move to filter access to those sites contradicts the Government's promise to not censor the Internet.

Under the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) Bill of Guarantees, the Government promises there would be no censorship of the Internet.

IDC Malaysia associate market analyst John Cheah said this move would cause some inconvenience to P2P users.

“However, there are many more P2P and direct download sites that are still easily accessible to users who are familiar with the sources.

“Hence, its effectiveness is limited to how many P2P piracy web site addresses MCMC can identify and block. Furthermore, resourceful users are able to find alternative solutions and sources to acquiring illegal content,” he said.

Cheah said content providers could look into means to “offer more competitive pricings” so as to encourage consumers to not be involved in the piracy of copyright content.

Additionally, piracy is a global problem that needs to be addressed by numerous parties both locally and internationally.”

Industry observers noted that if MCMC wanted to make an issue on tackling pirates, the best way was not to block but to co-operate and find alternative means.

“Forcibly blocking access to the website only lent more credence to online censorship which contradicts the MSC Bill of Guarantees. In fact, it is foolish to think that online censorship works. There are still many other ways for surfers to access the portal,” he said.

One observer was surprised to note that one major hosting service provider, RapidShare was not included in the list directed by MCMC to all ISPs.

They said these websites requested by MCMC to be blocked did not entirely host illegal copyright violating files. Some actually use these sites to transfer pictures and document. “People will still be able to find ways to access those websites. There are ways to easily bypass the firewall using VPN (virtual private network), proxy or paid proxy,” an analyst said.
http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...39&sec=business

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PETALING JAYA: In a bid to combat piracy, the Government has declared war on filesharing websites with 10 such websites now blocked by the telecommunications industry watchdog.

The websites were among the most visited sites by Malaysians to illegally download movies.

On May 30, Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) had written a letter to all Internet Service Providers (ISPs) ordering the block.

The letter was signed by Digital Security Services division acting senior director Eneng Faridah Iskandar.

The letter, which was leaked online, also stated that the websites were being blocked for breaching Section 41 of the Copyright Act 1987, which deals with pirated content.

An MCMC spokesperson confirmed the ban and said it was done on the request of the Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism Ministry.

The ministry's enforcement division director-general Mohd Roslan Mahayudin confirmed that the request was made.

“It is standard procedure for the ministry to request MCMC to block sites that violate the Copyright Act 1987,” he told The Star.

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Roslan said the ministry had requested that 19 websites, including the 10 listed in the letter, be blocked for violating the Act but added that it was up to MCMC to decide on which ones to block.

When asked about the fate of surfers who legally use the websites such as for storing non-pirated content, Mohd Roslan said they could always write to the ministry.

“Anyone who feels the ban is wrong can write to us and we will look into it,” he said.

Film maker Norman Abd Halim of KRU Studios said the move was long overdue.

“The unauthorised use of copyright work is destroying the industry. If everyone feels that works should be shared, then there is no value in these works,” he said.

Norman equated the move to South Korea's three-strikes law, where a person guilty of copyright infringement can have their Internet access suspended for six months.

However, irate users have vented their frustration by creating a Facebook page to protest.

By 8.30pm yesterday, there were 410 supporters who “liked” the page that was named “1M Malaysians Don't Want Block File Sharing Websites.”

FilesTube Media Search Engine, one of the sites ordered blocked, also commented on the page.

“We have posted information about this on our wall. We are with you.”

Before the page was put up, some Malaysians were already protesting via Twitter.

“You can't create a walled-up Internet garden,” read one tweet.

Some also made reference to the MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees which states that the Government will not censor the Internet.

MSC Malaysia is a national initiative that kicked off in 1996 and is aimed at transforming the nation into a knowledge-based economy.


http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...9884&sec=nation

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Online users bypass block

PETALING JAYA: The online file-sharing community remains active despite the Government’s move to block 10 such websites to curb piracy.

Blogger and online marketing consultant David Wang said most users simply moved on to other websites offering the same facilities and services to download content.

“Users can also continue using the blocked websites by getting around it in a few simple steps,” he said.

Wang, who published a blog post titled “What is a DNS (Domain Name System) block and three ways to get around it” following the Govern­ment’s ban against the websites, said IT expertise was not necessary to gain access.

“Anyone who knows how to download free content from such websites will be able to do it,” he said.

A quick online search using the keywords “How to bypass DNS block” also showed many websites offering detailed explanations on the ways to get past it.

It was reported that the Government had declared war on file-sharing websites, with 10 of them blocked by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) in a bid to combat piracy.

The websites were among the most visited sites by Malaysians to illegally download movies.

The MCMC had on May 30 written to all Internet Service Providers (ISPs) ordering the block.

The letter, which was leaked online, also stated that the websites were being blocked for breaching Section 41 of the Copyright Act, which deals with pirated content.

The MCMC had said that the websites would be blocked in stages.

Sanjeev Nair, a marketing executive at an IT firm here, said although users could access the blocked websites through various other methods, the block should not have been imposed in the first place.

He said it was a violation of the MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees which stated that the Government would not censor the Internet.

“It is the principle of the matter and the authorities should realise that the Internet is all about sharing,” he said.

A check yesterday showed that nine of the websites were still accessible.


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post Jun 9 2011, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(piskin @ Jun 9 2011, 10:36 AM)
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wahhh..... so negative!!! and already effective....



wat next?? email attachment also can share2x file also...


really disappointed with this kind of move....
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post Jun 9 2011, 10:48 AM

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I just change my internet speed from 384kps to 4mb, MAY DAY MAY DAY!!!!!!
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having another 2 month premium for fileserve...haih..waste of money

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dun use TMNUT DNS lor..
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if some unifi members remember last few weeks some of u failed to go into fileserve. now u guys realized why. lol...
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if you have legit FS acount and store important info, you may want to file a law suit....against TM and SKMM LOL can win?
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that's not the real bad news;

they're tabling an Act to stop downloading thru P2P.
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post Jun 9 2011, 11:35 AM

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All those are largely used if not 100% used for piracy. Not exactly a surprise. More like a matter of when.
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i believe this result of najib's visit to usa before. in exchange for something (dunno what) najib agreed to enforce this policy quickly. expect more site to be blocked. however since he just need the outward appearance of doing it, i doubt the SKMM asked isps to block all possible way to use those website. so this mean SKMM will ignore those that using public dns or vpn to bypass this.
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That's pretty stupid idea.
I'm in the middle of writing a journal collaborate with some overseas researcher. I have to send them my references in Endnote format through fileserve/megaupload because is almost 40mb... cant send through email.

Now Malaysia, whats next? rapidshare? Do you think by merely blocking those fileserver we can reduce privacy? Retarded ministry....
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QUOTE(adrian1984 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:40 AM)
Now Malaysia, whats next? rapidshare? Do you think by merely blocking those fileserver we can reduce privacy? Retarded ministry....
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the main reason for piracy is purchasing power.....

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QUOTE(adrian1984 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:40 AM)
That's pretty stupid idea.
I'm in the middle of writing a journal collaborate with some overseas researcher. I have to send them my references in Endnote format through fileserve/megaupload because is almost 40mb... cant send through email.

Now Malaysia, whats next? rapidshare? Do you think by merely blocking those fileserver we can reduce privacy? Retarded ministry....
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Blame the pirates. You are probably the handful of people using file hosting for non-illegal usage.

Anyway, privacy or piracy?
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most simple way...setup own ftp account...i believe using purchase a web ftp cheaper than fileserve account.
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can bypass by VPN or not???
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QUOTE(elairz @ Jun 9 2011, 11:38 AM)
i believe this result of najib's visit to usa before. in exchange for something (dunno what) najib agreed to enforce this policy quickly. expect more site to be blocked. however since he just need the outward appearance of doing it, i doubt the SKMM asked isps to block all possible way to use those website. so this mean SKMM will ignore those that using public dns or vpn to bypass this.
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I just understood what you mean... many thanks for the tip... I just found away to connect to those server...

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Blame the pirates. You are probably the handful of people using file hosting for non-illegal usage.

Anyway, privacy or piracy?
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its like punishing the innocent along with the guilty ones. see how you like it if you in that kind of situation and you are on the innocent side.

for example : a whole block of apartment was cut off from electricity because of few apartment owner didnt pays their bills. yet you, who always pays the bill on time is also got your electric cut off too.


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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 9 2011, 11:45 AM)
Blame the pirates. You are probably the handful of people using file hosting for non-illegal usage.

Anyway, privacy or piracy?
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Ops... typo... yeah... mid-day dilemma.... too much work with no coffee

But then do you really think pirates were responsible for that? If I really want to cetak rompak something, I just go to singapore or thailand, once a month, bring along a HDD / few SD card, download from counterparts from those country, bring back, burn and sell. No big deal, can travel some more...

I think they try to avoid some sort of political propaganda/ circulation of somebody's leaked sex tape of local-high-profile-people...
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QUOTE(elairz @ Jun 9 2011, 11:56 AM)
its like punishing the innocent along with the guilty ones. see how you like it if you in that kind of situation and you are on the innocent side.

for example : a whole block of apartment was cut off from electricity because of few apartment owner didnt pays their bills. yet you, who always pays the bill on time is also got your electric cut off too.
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Agree...

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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ Jun 9 2011, 11:53 AM)
can bypass by VPN or not???
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maybe yes, other color'tube' recently blocked, but vpn manage to bypass it rclxms.gif
so, use vpn next? thumbup.gif
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after i change my DNS to public DNS, megaupload speed is still slow..anyone of you guys experienced this?
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QUOTE(adrian1984 @ Jun 9 2011, 11:40 AM)
That's pretty stupid idea.
I'm in the middle of writing a journal collaborate with some overseas researcher. I have to send them my references in Endnote format through fileserve/megaupload because is almost 40mb... cant send through email.

Now Malaysia, whats next? rapidshare? Do you think by merely blocking those fileserver we can reduce privacy? Retarded ministry....
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use dropbox
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QUOTE(Jerry77 @ Jun 9 2011, 12:29 PM)
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Anybody use VPN, what is the impact on DL speed?
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KNS, I still have 10 month left of fileserve, hotfile, filesonic
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I use HTTPS Proxy. So far got 150++kB/s.
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I'm surprised there isn't more of an uproar over this action....

Don't you guys see that this is only just the beginning?

Soon they can use the same justifications (national security and interests) to block any other site they deem a violation to their interests...

It's a very very slippery slope... possibly the beginning of a China type internet...
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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jun 9 2011, 02:00 PM)
I'm surprised there isn't more of an uproar over this action....

Don't you guys see that this is only just the beginning?

Soon they can use the same justifications (national security and interests) to block any other site they deem a violation to their interests...

It's a very very slippery slope... possibly the beginning of a China type internet...
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did BN nvr learn anything from egypt?

u tek aay people's future & money, still will hav people dat will bear wit it.
but if u take away people's internet, people gonna rage.

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We all know those websites are mainly used (99.99%) for illegal purposes, so we do not really have any basis to complain against the government except that they promised not to censor the Internet.

Just hope that they do not implement it, if they do then hope that VPN can workaround it wink.gif

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Meh... I use OpenDNS and can still get those shits as much as I want.
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fark SKMM the large pile of government dogs!!!

for ages, people have been complaining to them about how SHITTY TM's services are. what have they done so far? NONE!!!

surprisingly they take "special" concern when it comes to things like this. TM=SKMM. all eat shit!
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^above is frequent downloader i guess
the problem is piracy and skmm took action because too much of illegal download stuff = =

free censorship i wonder the freedom to write stuff in internet or the freedom to download all kind of stuff including p*rnograhy,illegal software code and etc


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im using openDNS, but megaupload is slowing down for me, 20kbps for a 4mb line...

any of you guys having this problem?
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does using VPN solve this matter?
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^ Apparently so, for now...

Watch the boom of VPN services again lol...
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^ Apparently so, for now...

Watch the boom of VPN services again lol...
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What gives SKMM the right to block these websites such as megaupload, fileserve and depositfiles?

http://mscmalaysia.my/article/MSC+Malaysia...of+the+Internet

Funny that we claim to practice internet censorship policy under the MSC Bill of Guarantee.

They are just merely FILE HOSTING sites for God's sake.
It's the account holders who share their links to pirated contents over the net to the public that they should be going after.
The legality of these sites is no different from having email accounts, cloud storage and collaborative sharing.
If they are serious, then go after those who upload and share the links openly on blogs, etc..Not these sites. They are just offering "content hosting and storage" purposes.

Even the US, Singapore and many developed countries don't ban the access to this sites.It's like telling people that they can't upload their personal stuff to their email accounts and cloud storage. Things only get illegal when they start sharing the links to their uploaded content for the public.

Oh and touching the legality of VPN, how come they are not going after these VPN services as well? They are banning file hosting sites on the basis that they are illegal so encrypted tunneling is just a mean to circumvent it. So why they pretend they don't know?

Why? Our VPN services are setup by the cronies themselves to take advantage of the situation?

How about banning other storage sites such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Amazon Cloud, Apple's iCloud?
Ban the use of emails with large inbox sizes because friends are sending me files and sharing their private content with me such as photo albums, work documents, etc. You dare claim that you have the right to see them too? On what basis? That's over the line of individual privacy.

These idiots really take stupidity to new levels.
Even countries such as US, Australia, Europe, Singapore won't be banning these file hosters,All they can do is report and request for the removal of the links should they find that it's distributing pirated content.
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QUOTE(elairz @ Jun 9 2011, 11:56 AM)
its like punishing the innocent along with the guilty ones. see how you like it if you in that kind of situation and you are on the innocent side.

for example : a whole block of apartment was cut off from electricity because of few apartment owner didnt pays their bills. yet you, who always pays the bill on time is also got your electric cut off too.
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This is known as "collective punishment". It's a tactic employed by the Israelis in Palestine, to great disapprobation from the Malaysian government. One kid throws stones, knock down the whole village.
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Banning access to file hosting sites and cloud storage is totally ridiculous.

The way its done the motive is just to save data traffic.

Then there're quarters who take advantage of the situation to circumvent it by offering public VPN services that peers well with our isp gateways.It's been going on for years by locals yet nothing is done about them just because probably there's interest in such services?

Why commit an action when you know there're going to be loopholes in it?
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maybe they blocking it half-assed only...hehe
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 9 2011, 04:49 PM)
What gives SKMM the right to block these websites such as megaupload, fileserve and depositfiles?

http://mscmalaysia.my/article/MSC+Malaysia...of+the+Internet

Funny that we claim to practice internet censorship policy under the MSC Bill of Guarantee.

They are just merely FILE HOSTING sites for God's sake.
It's the account holders who share their links to pirated contents over the net to the public that they should be going after.
The legality of these sites is no different from having email accounts, cloud storage and collaborative sharing.
If they are serious, then go after those who upload and share the links openly on blogs, etc..Not these sites. They are just offering "content hosting and storage" purposes.

Even the US, Singapore and many developed countries don't ban the access to this sites.It's like telling people that they can't upload their personal stuff to their email accounts and cloud storage. Things only get illegal when they start sharing the links to their uploaded content for the public.

Oh and touching the legality of VPN, how come they are not going after these VPN services as well? They are banning file hosting sites on the basis that they are illegal so encrypted tunneling is just a mean to circumvent it. So why they pretend they don't know?

Why? Our VPN services are setup by the cronies themselves to take advantage of the situation?

How about banning other storage sites such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Amazon Cloud, Apple's iCloud?
Ban the use of emails with large inbox sizes because friends are sending me files and sharing their private content with me such as photo albums, work documents, etc. You dare claim that you have the right to see them too? On what basis? That's over the line of individual privacy.

These idiots really take stupidity to new levels.
Even countries such as US, Australia, Europe, Singapore won't be banning these file hosters,All they can do is report and request for the removal of the links should they find that it's distributing pirated content.
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they do it once and for all. future proof. doesnt give a damn about free user nor premium user.
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they are blocking not because of illegal downloads or anything like that
the downloading from this sites are eating up their bandwidth and they can't cope with it because they oversold their bandwidth to consumer ...
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they are just being way too stingy.
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plain bullshit though,

SKMM if detecting ppl downloading warez from the sites.

They should inform the international organization about this and request to shut down the website instead blocking us to access.

this is something call save the bandwidth, might as well limit the bandwidth to those certain ip address instead of blocking it.

Anyhow they also doing this....
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QUOTE(guardioo @ Jun 9 2011, 05:33 PM)

They should inform the international organization about this and request to shut down the website instead blocking us to access.

this is something call save the bandwidth, might as well limit the bandwidth to those certain ip address instead of blocking it.

Anyhow they also doing this....
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Those blogs and forums that share links to illegal content often gets away from lawsuits because they claim it's posted by members not the act of the site owner themselves.

Then again the next effective move is to request the file hosting site(i.e: Megaupload, Depositfiles) to remove that link 1 by 1 with solid proof that's its pointing to an illegal file. Else they have no right to request for its removal out of people's privacy.

That is all they can do. File hosting sites only helps store users contents. They have no control over their users storage.

It's like a shopowner who rents out his shop to a tenant. If the tenant uses it for illegal activities and not telling, how can you accuse the shopowner for commiting crime?
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I think Astro is behind this..

They know people starts leaving Astro because of their crap tv programme and download all the HD quality stuff over the net..
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bodohsi@ FS,MU,DF,DL u also wan block!
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it is astro responsible to block the material if they claim theirs the should go directly to the hosing server, it is not ISP responsible to block of access of server hosting , this is unfair, I thought the claimed there is no censorship on internet.

Maybe if we can create any petition to unblock those websites..
for me , they should block porn !!!

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If they really want to fight piracy then there's a lot of many other ways to do it. This kind of actions only promotes it. Not to mention even countries like the USA, where most of the contents are from that country are being pirated, can't take much action.

ISP can block if they want, but business wise, I see a drop in user percentage. Not to mention downloads means money to the ISP. Following the directive could hurt their pocket.

As far as just now, I can still access aforementioned sites... Not so sure about tomorrow.
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 9 2011, 04:49 PM)
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «


Why? Our VPN services are setup by the cronies themselves to take advantage of the situation?

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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? you sure VPN setup by them ?
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The only good thing I see coming out of this is that it will help spread the message on how to subvert the naive DNS censorship scheme. Where it was only porn and extremist sites before, the net is cast wider now to filesharing sites.

Then if the government censors something that it shouldn't, there'll be more people who can help their family/friends/neighbors subvert it.
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The only good thing I see coming out of this is that it will help spread the message on how to subvert the naive DNS censorship scheme. Where it was only porn and extremist sites before, the net is cast wider now to filesharing sites.

Then if the government censors something that it shouldn't, there'll be more people who can help their family/friends/neighbors subvert it.
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hehehehe .. anything can be done .. even they block still can d/l .. malaysia boleh .. wakakakaka!!!~
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Ya, long time ago they censored R*DT*BE tongue.gif
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Got block meh? I just ah visited said establishment tongue.gif

It seems to me bandwidth costs is eating into TM/Government money so they want to put a stop to the heavy usage of bandwidth then can save costs, part of the subsidy reduction scheme whistling.gif
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How did Malaysian let these mentally handicapped bunch have so much power?

The next time a politician says we are a democratic country, someone should punch him in the face. This is far from democracy.
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How did Malaysian let these mentally handicapped bunch have so much power?

The next time a politician says we are a democratic country, someone should punch him in the face. This is far from democracy.
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who do you think SKMM head is? gomen. and How deeply rooted is TM with the gomen ppl? now that streamyx cannot handle the load anymore (cannot sustain what they promised, the bandwidth because they wanna earn MOREEEEE), they command SKMM to issue this order, so they have valid reason to reduce the load...
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QUOTE(wo0p @ Jun 9 2011, 06:30 PM)
it is astro responsible to block the material if they claim theirs the should go directly to the hosing server, it is not ISP responsible to block of access of server hosting , this is unfair, I thought the claimed there is no censorship on internet.

Maybe if we can create any petition to unblock those websites..
for me , they should block porn !!!
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No no no, they can't block porn, MACC need it to watch during office hour. They is they "official" duty and paid to do so. shocking.gif


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Who tell you set different DNS will give you faster down speed? There's no such thing, the only way is pay some bucks and wank.

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this is wat u get when u vote for BN. Remember ur mistakes well dun let them win ever again. BN never do wat they promised. "We wont censor the internet" i guess that phrase is spoken from some BN minister's ass

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yea. bohong besar besar belaka. hari ini cakap, esok sudah lain bikin. cakap tak serupa bikin. this people must throw out from office.
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We are becoming like China now. Freedom with limitation. Next to be block: Facebook? Ten years later our Internet only for email and advertisement? Malaysia Boleh!
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There's no confirm answer for this, as you know TM shit international connection sucks big time. Pay some bucks to get a premium account and see how it's going since it allowed multi threads download, good luck.


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This can be happen, M & C are brother now and M keep support C by signup many shit and buy their rubbish product but G think they are smart, the truth is C pwning M.
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SUBSIDI SOFTWARE/GAMES(ori) first , then i stop support piracy and buy original biggrin.gif
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Change DNS, siap...
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got 5 TRUSTED FREE VPN website on-list biggrin.gif

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We are becoming like China now. Freedom with limitation. Next to be block: Facebook? Ten years later our Internet only for email and advertisement? Malaysia Boleh!
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hahaha.. padan muka .. tu la layan porn kuat sgt ...
xde kena mengena dengan BN .. if u are the head of a country u also gonna do the same thing ... semua ni duit ... if no money than we will be 3rd world country laaa ..
china block FB .. but what can people do .. yes thats right NOTHING !!!~
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me to ..

got 5 TRUSTED FREE VPN website on-list biggrin.gif
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menyesal aku dilahirkan di negara bodoh ini
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QUOTE(kensh!!n @ Jun 9 2011, 10:39 PM)
menyesal aku dilahirkan di negara bodoh ini
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be thankful .. u regrets just because of download been blocked.. common bro .. we got hundreds of ways to bypass this .. wakakakak!!

APXB !!
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i just regret why porn are allowed to surf but cannot surf file hosting.
is this mean MCMC support porn?
file hosting got legal n illegal file there but i do not find any legal surfing porn site.
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hahaha.. its all about the money .. money .. if porn were block then we will have chaos !! wakakakaka!!~
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hahaha.. its all about the money .. money .. if porn were block then we will have chaos !! wakakakaka!!~
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share with me plz?
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no more reason to apply more than 1mpbs speed. i hope unifi will fall....hard
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eh bro, u got solutions for this problem?
share with me plz?
thanks smile.gif
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which solution? the porn thing? wakakakaka.. sorry bro.. i dont watch porn .. boring ... same thing .. wakakakak!!
just google bro .. sure can find new website .. for ur pleasure tonight ... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 9 2011, 10:28 PM)
hahaha.. padan muka .. tu la layan porn kuat sgt ...
xde kena mengena dengan BN .. if u are the head of a country u also gonna do the same thing ... semua ni duit ... if no money than we will be 3rd world country laaa ..
china block FB .. but what can people do .. yes thats right NOTHING !!!~
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You should know that not all people in Malaysia using those file sharing site to distribute illegal stuffs,
but there are also some people, like me, who used it for our study benefits..
We need to upload the assignment (which is sometime more than 100MB), notes and exercises on that file hosting, but now, we need to find other alternative.. sad.gif
But for the time being, my streamyx still can access those site.... Donno it will stand for how many days...

"Kerana nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga" rclxub.gif




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Sad... but things happen, I recently applying new streamyx and considering to upgrade it... but it's kinda useless, and I even think to terminate my subscription.... idk... wth


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Am using P1... Mmg kaki potong diorang ni
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hey that strange, i'm opening piratebay with no prob.. blink.gif

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BoG 1:  To provide a world-class physical and information infrastructure.

BoG 2:  To allow unrestricted employment of local and foreign knowledge workers.

BoG 3:
To ensure freedom of ownership by exempting companies with MSC Malaysia Status from local ownership requirements.

BoG 4:  To give the freedom to source capital globally for MSC Malaysia infrastructure, and the right to borrow funds globally.

BoG 5:  To provide competitive financial incentives, including Pioneer Status (100 percent tax exemption) for up to ten years or an Investment Tax Allowance for up to five years and no duties on the importation of multimedia equipment.

BoG 6:  To become a regional leader in Intellectual Property Protection and Cyberlaws.

BoG 7:  To ensure no censorship of the Internet.

BoG 8:  To provide globally competitive telecommunications tariffs.

BoG 9:  To tender key MSC Malaysia infrastructure contracts to leading companies willing to use MSC Malaysia as their regional hub.

BoG 10:  To provide a high-powered implementation agency to act as an effective one-stop super shop.

 


This document reflects the Government's interpretation in respect of the BoGs, and may be subject to change. For further information, please contact MDeC at:

MSC Malaysia Client Contact Centre (CliC)
Tel. no.: +603-8315 3000
Toll free no.: 1-800-88-8338 (within Malaysia)


http://www.mscmalaysia.my/topic/MSC+Malays...l+of+Guarantees

yeah another sohai government uturn...

guess MSC project and tutup kedai.. and company gonna run away from cyberjaya....
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QUOTE(annoymous1234 @ Jun 9 2011, 10:51 PM)
no more reason to apply more than 1mpbs speed. i hope unifi will fall....hard
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malaysia ppl are on desperate level that...even with all this limit ppl are still applying for the service.

which is mean....how bad are the service they providing
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time for everybody to complain to MSC and their BOG point 7 ..

ask them what is their stand on SKMM matters...


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KNS, I still have 10 month left of fileserve, hotfile, filesonic
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Sooner or later, they will block facebook, twitter
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QUOTE(Choongster @ Jun 9 2011, 08:24 PM)
they are blocking not because of illegal downloads or anything like that
the downloading from this sites are eating up their bandwidth and they can't cope with it because they oversold their bandwidth to consumer ...
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2nd they dont do network management properly...for certain ppl in govt office get the capabilities like in singapore busiest network..you go figure; if they can be that...wat abt those piracy on the streeet? they also do the same thing. whistling.gif


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If you notice the one who did this; its ACTING SENIOR DIRECTOR? Wtf man?? doh.gif

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QUOTE(KVReninem @ Jun 10 2011, 12:02 AM)
2nd they dont do network management properly...for certain ppl in govt office get the capabilities like in singapore busiest network..you go figure; if they can be that...wat abt those piracy on the streeet? they also do the same thing. whistling.gif


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If you notice the one who did this; its ACTING SENIOR DIRECTOR? Wtf man?? doh.gif
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lol, its not about network management, please correct ur fact
most big office use different source of internet which is bigger bandwidth.
its not like home use, shared lease line which is mostly 1-4mbps only.

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which solution? the porn thing? wakakakaka.. sorry bro.. i dont watch porn .. boring ... same thing .. wakakakak!!
just google bro .. sure can find new website .. for ur pleasure tonight ...  whistling.gif
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no i mean file sharing thing?
so any solutions?
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no i mean file sharing thing?
so any solutions?
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opendns .. or just google finding any other dns ..
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It was only last month that 'someone' guaranteed that there will be no internet censorship in Malaysia. whistling.gif
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what next? ban gmail ? force us use 1malaysia email ? nabeh
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Since they can do this, what's stopping them from blocking youtube, yahoo, gmail, independent news portals, etc?
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kemon la... they block with reason even the reason is not reasonable.. u sendiri guna download haram even just movie then how?
i dont think govt will ban youtube.. unless someone do something teruk then maybe laaa ..

so please think out of the box please .. dont just tembak only...

APXB !!
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They should have ban internet and stop selling Electronic Equipment such as LCD, DVD and even PC.
It's the source of each and every malice.

doh.gif Friggin shallow minded people. Only in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:20 AM)
They should have ban internet and stop selling Electronic Equipment such as LCD, DVD and even PC.
It's the source of each and every malice.

doh.gif Friggin shallow minded people. Only in Malaysia.
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They're blocking under he copyright act and we all know almost everyone uses them for piracy.

Doesn't mean I like it, but can't exactly blame them for banning website mainly used for piracy. Piracy brings about many bad things.
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 01:24 AM)
They're blocking under he copyright act and we all know almost everyone uses them for piracy.

Doesn't mean I like it, but can't exactly blame them for banning website mainly used for piracy. Piracy brings about many bad things.
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this guy think using his head .. nice smile.gif

so .. u do illegal stuff then u angry someone stop u ...
kemon laa ..
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Stupid policy but then this would bring more customer for my small vpn biz smile.gif
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Then just do what they usually do, delete those links to valid illegal stuff on file hosting sites. If can't keep up, why don't you hire anyone to keep eye on the forum and blogspot sites that have illegal stuff links? File hosting site are really useful, not just for illegal stuff. If this really happen, then Unifi and all other high speed broadband will just loss most of their customers. We can go back to dial up, or slow internet bandwidth. Cheap, just enough for emails. Facebook also can block, why? Cos privacy and people's voice raging towards government = dangerous to public. Then block also forums like LYN and /k, also other blogspot sites. Why? Dangerous threats. Racism being brought up by users. Dangerous. THAT! And government being criticized and blamed, flamed, and such. DANGEROUS TO GOVERNMENT AND PEACE. BLOCK THEM ALL.


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kemon la kemon laa ..
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 01:24 AM)
They're blocking under he copyright act and we all know almost everyone uses them for piracy.

Doesn't mean I like it, but can't exactly blame them for banning website mainly used for piracy. Piracy brings about many bad things.
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That's why they should ban the internet. Google should shut down as well as they are the search engine and we know everyone uses them for piracy as well.
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Jun 10 2011, 03:09 AM)
lol, its not about network management, please correct ur fact
most big office use different source of internet which is bigger bandwidth.
its not like home use, shared lease line which is mostly 1-4mbps only.
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of course big office hav their vpn etc.. but heck for malaysia residential; they should have a proper network management. not like monkey pulling wire here n there. whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 10 2011, 01:28 AM)
this guy think using his head .. nice smile.gif

so .. u do illegal stuff then u angry someone stop u ...
kemon laa ..
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How can you confirm that people do illegal stuff with it? You track them? Logs them?
Speak about piracy why don't they catch those pirate seller? Cause government receive enough money from them that's why no action taken?
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confirm .. because everyone download .. the same as pirate dvd .. diff is dont have to buy dvd .. kemon la.. u dont have to ask why .. u know why ..

govt catching pirate dvd people oso just they didnt do it everyday .. its all political thing .. kemon laa ..

even govt block the site .. we still can use alternative ways .. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 10 2011, 01:57 AM)
confirm .. because everyone download .. the same as pirate dvd .. diff is dont have to buy dvd .. kemon la.. u dont have to ask why .. u know why ..

govt catching pirate dvd people oso just they didnt do it everyday .. its all political thing .. kemon laa ..

even govt block the site .. we still can use alternative ways .. tongue.gif
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LuL, everyone download means illegal, nice thinking dude. Seriously i don't know why, because i'm not really a filehoster hunter and i got those premium account which i never use it.
For your info, did you know who do the illegal stuff more? Guess you don't know.
That's those folks who work in GOVERNMENT OFFICE, they use their time to down the damn movies in working time, why i can confirm? Simply, because i service their damn PC and it full of movies than the documents. What say you?

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 9 2011, 04:49 PM)
What gives SKMM the right to block these websites such as megaupload, fileserve and depositfiles?

http://mscmalaysia.my/article/MSC+Malaysia...of+the+Internet

Funny that we claim to practice internet censorship policy under the MSC Bill of Guarantee.

They are just merely FILE HOSTING sites for God's sake.
It's the account holders who share their links to pirated contents over the net to the public that they should be going after.
The legality of these sites is no different from having email accounts, cloud storage and collaborative sharing.
If they are serious, then go after those who upload and share the links openly on blogs, etc..Not these sites. They are just offering "content hosting and storage" purposes.

Even the US, Singapore and many developed countries don't ban the access to this sites.It's like telling people that they can't upload their personal stuff to their email accounts and cloud storage. Things only get illegal when they start sharing the links to their uploaded content for the public.

Oh and touching the legality of VPN, how come they are not going after these VPN services as well? They are banning file hosting sites on the basis that they are illegal so encrypted tunneling is just a mean to circumvent it. So why they pretend they don't know?

Why? Our VPN services are setup by the cronies themselves to take advantage of the situation?

How about banning other storage sites such as Microsoft SkyDrive, Amazon Cloud, Apple's iCloud?
Ban the use of emails with large inbox sizes because friends are sending me files and sharing their private content with me such as photo albums, work documents, etc. You dare claim that you have the right to see them too? On what basis? That's over the line of individual privacy.

These idiots really take stupidity to new levels.
Even countries such as US, Australia, Europe, Singapore won't be banning these file hosters,All they can do is report and request for the removal of the links should they find that it's distributing pirated content.
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 10 2011, 01:57 AM)
confirm .. because everyone download .. the same as pirate dvd .. diff is dont have to buy dvd .. kemon la.. u dont have to ask why .. u know why ..

govt catching pirate dvd people oso just they didnt do it everyday .. its all political thing .. kemon laa ..

even govt block the site .. we still can use alternative ways .. tongue.gif
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So in your shallow knowledge, torrent = piracy?
Computer shop should stop selling empty DVD and also DVD Writer/CD Writer because we all know you and the rest of the people that you claimed use them for piracy.

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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 10 2011, 01:19 AM)
kemon la... they block with reason even the reason is not reasonable.. u sendiri guna download haram even just movie then how?
i dont think govt will ban youtube.. unless someone do something teruk then maybe laaa ..

so please think out of the box please .. dont just tembak only...

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they wont block youtube....as last few month ago some1 said youtube have server here.
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QUOTE(warez @ Jun 10 2011, 02:13 AM)
LuL, everyone download means illegal, nice thinking dude. Seriously i don't know why, because i'm not really a filehoster hunter and i got those premium account which i never use it.
For your info, did you know who do the illegal stuff more? Guess you don't know.
That's those folks who work in GOVERNMENT OFFICE, they use their time to down the damn movies in working time, why i can confirm? Simply, because i service their damn PC and it full of movies than the documents. What say you?
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Serious allegations.

Can you tell us under which ministry, and to be exact what department, state, place... love to know that.
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QUOTE(PwNPrWn @ Jun 10 2011, 09:29 AM)
Serious allegations.

Can you tell us under which ministry, and to be exact what department, state, place... love to know that.
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QUOTE(warez @ Jun 10 2011, 02:13 AM)
LuL, everyone download means illegal, nice thinking dude. Seriously i don't know why, because i'm not really a filehoster hunter and i got those premium account which i never use it.
For your info, did you know who do the illegal stuff more? Guess you don't know.
That's those folks who work in GOVERNMENT OFFICE, they use their time to down the damn movies in working time, why i can confirm? Simply, because i service their damn PC and it full of movies than the documents. What say you?
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I agreed with you. Last month do maintenance for gov and guess they download everyday even worst they download porn.
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just thinking, why didnt block ppstream?
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QUOTE(-ZeN- @ Jun 10 2011, 09:48 AM)
just thinking, why didnt block ppstream?
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PPS stream is Legal in China lol, they got liciense rclxms.gif
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there's a reason for people to pay rm 200+ for internet usage for not having any interruption.
yet still, want compete with other country?i don't think so


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Suruhanjaya Komunikasi dan Multimedia Malaysia (SKMM) dalam satu kenyataan hari ini menjelaskan penyekatan beberapa laman sesawang pada akhir-akhir ini bukan satu bentuk penapisan.

Sebaliknya, menurut SKMM ia adalah tindakan pematuhan undang-undang Malaysia.

“Akta Komunikasi dan Multimedia 1998 menetapkan bahawa pemegang lesen di bawah AKM 1998 perlu mematuhi sebarang permintaan bertulis dari SKMM untuk membantu SKMM atau pihak berkuasa lain setakat yang semunasabahnya perlu dalam mencegah perlakuan atau cubaan perlakuan sesuatu kesalahan di bawah mana-mana undang-undang bertulis Malaysia.

“Sehubungan dengan itu, SKMM telah menerima permintaan dari Bahagian Penguatkuasaan, Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi & Kepenggunaan untuk menghalang capaian kepada beberapa laman sesawang yang didapati melanggar Akta Hakcipta 1987,” petik kenyataan akhbar yang diedarkan menerusi Bernama.

Antara laman-laman yang disekat itu, termasuk:ThePirateBay.org

MegaUpload.com

FileServe.com

DepositFiles.com

FilesTube.com

Warez-BB.org

Movie2k.to

MegaVideo.com

PutLocker.com

DuckLoad.com

Menurut SKMM lagi pihaknya telah memaklumkan penyekatan ini kepada pemegang lesen yang berkenaan dan tindakan sedang diambil secara berperingkat.

cili pedas
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 10 2011, 10:39 AM)
Suruhanjaya Komunikasi dan Multimedia Malaysia (SKMM) dalam satu kenyataan hari ini menjelaskan penyekatan beberapa laman sesawang pada akhir-akhir ini bukan satu bentuk penapisan.

Sebaliknya, menurut SKMM ia adalah tindakan pematuhan undang-undang Malaysia.

“Akta Komunikasi dan Multimedia 1998 menetapkan bahawa pemegang lesen di bawah AKM 1998 perlu mematuhi sebarang permintaan bertulis dari SKMM untuk membantu SKMM atau pihak berkuasa lain setakat yang semunasabahnya perlu dalam mencegah perlakuan atau cubaan perlakuan sesuatu kesalahan di bawah mana-mana undang-undang bertulis Malaysia.

“Sehubungan dengan itu, SKMM telah menerima permintaan dari Bahagian Penguatkuasaan, Kementerian Perdagangan Dalam Negeri, Koperasi & Kepenggunaan untuk menghalang capaian kepada beberapa laman sesawang yang didapati melanggar Akta Hakcipta 1987,” petik kenyataan akhbar yang diedarkan menerusi Bernama.

Antara laman-laman yang disekat itu, termasuk:ThePirateBay.org

    MegaUpload.com

    FileServe.com

    DepositFiles.com

    FilesTube.com

    Warez-BB.org

    Movie2k.to

    MegaVideo.com

    PutLocker.com

    DuckLoad.com

Menurut SKMM lagi pihaknya telah memaklumkan penyekatan ini kepada pemegang lesen yang berkenaan dan tindakan sedang diambil secara berperingkat.

cili pedas
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patotla slow je walaupun unifi, guna VPN selesai masalah, mujur VPN yang aku nak resell x laku lagi, boleh lah guna utk 4 bulan lagi biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(xarmx @ Jun 10 2011, 01:31 AM)
Then just do what they usually do, delete those links to valid illegal stuff on file hosting sites. If can't keep up, why don't you hire anyone to keep eye on the forum and blogspot sites that have illegal stuff links? File hosting site are really useful, not just for illegal stuff. If this really happen, then Unifi and all other high speed broadband will just loss most of their customers. We can go back to dial up, or slow internet bandwidth. Cheap, just enough for emails. Facebook also can block, why? Cos privacy and people's voice raging towards government = dangerous to public. Then block also forums like LYN and /k, also other blogspot sites. Why? Dangerous threats. Racism being brought up by users. Dangerous. THAT! And government being criticized and blamed, flamed, and such. DANGEROUS TO GOVERNMENT AND PEACE. BLOCK THEM ALL.
5 Years Later.....

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Less customer = good for me. Less idiots.
Anyway as for govt, sure I've seen myself one person quite high up having those files. But do they download them in the office? No. Just with private corporation, they have firewalls. Think they can go to all those websites in the first place? I may not know if they do block or not, but torrents are certainly out of the picture.

With all that said, just because the EMPLOYEES are doing illegal shit, that gives you permission to do so?

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jun 10 2011, 01:33 AM)
That's why they should ban the internet. Google should shut down as well as they are the search engine and we know everyone uses them for piracy as well.
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Another idiotic comparison. How does Google have anything to do with piracy? They're just a search engine that index links automatically. Do they promote piracy? No. Heck if I recall there was a news Google was called to actually block some piracy shit. Not from it searches though. I think it was filtering for their new quick search or something.

The point is, Google is not related directly to piracy, those sites are. They are either the link provider or the file provider themselves. BIG difference there. File hoster not deliberately and as far as I know, they will take down few files that probably was reported. But having mainly used for piracy here in Malaysia doesn't exactly bode well with service providers.

QUOTE(warez @ Jun 10 2011, 01:54 AM)
How can you confirm that people do illegal stuff with it? You track them? Logs them?
Speak about piracy why don't they catch those pirate seller? Cause government receive enough money from them that's why no action taken?
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You are in denial. Tell me the good usages of those file hoster other than getting illegal pirated products? I see one person exchanging files from colleagues but how many people actually work with that big size of files on a daily basis? Go to the premium account seller thread. Ask ANYONE in that thread what are they using it for. I'm sure you'll have a hard time finding one with legal usage.
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The SKMM is accusing file hosts such as Megaupload and Fileserve as being illegal sites that breach copyrights? Wow, that's some serious accusations. Or it is illegal to store files online according to Malaysian law?

File hosts by nature aren't illegal, it's their users that are abusing their rights. Hosts can't be held responsible for what their users do. This is blanket bombing, instead of going for the uploaders responsible, they opt to block out the entire community. Why not block all ISPs altogether since it's obvious they and the file hosts are similar in position? doh.gif
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ok.. for PR to win next election, just say they will order to unblock every websites that is blocked now...

sure win
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hypocrites spotted. stop trying to defend this bill.

seriously whatever@!$nova thing, can i catch u and put u into jail just because u live near a red light district?

of course not. that's common sense. no matter how many ppl around u use downloading sites as piracy, u dont involve innocent corporations who really use them for legal purpose by blindly blocking everything filehost-related.

and of course we can't find ppl in lowyat using them legally in those threads, they are just normal users. if u r a corporate user using megaupload to share files, will u come lowyat buy acc? funny.
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Let's take this to court. LOL

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jun 10 2011, 02:33 AM)
That's why they should ban the internet. Google should shut down as well as they are the search engine and we know everyone uses them for piracy as well.
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Google indexes searches and if you see in their search suggestion, some words that are related to piracy is censored. It's the people who uses it, so don't blame the provider.


QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 11:58 AM)
You are in denial. Tell me the good usages of those file hoster other than getting illegal pirated products? I see one person exchanging files from colleagues but how many people actually work with that big size of files on a daily basis? Go to the premium account seller thread. Ask ANYONE in that thread what are they using it for. I'm sure you'll have a hard time finding one with legal usage.
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There's a lot more stuff to do, piracy aside. For example, backups. Most of the file hosting service are made on this.
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 10:58 AM)
Less customer = good for me. Less idiots.
Anyway as for govt, sure I've seen myself one person quite high up having those files. But do they download them in the office? No. Just with private corporation, they have firewalls. Think they can go to all those websites in the first place? I may not know if  they do block or not, but torrents are certainly out of the picture.

With all that said, just because the EMPLOYEES are doing illegal shit, that gives you permission to do so?
Another idiotic comparison. How does Google have anything to do with piracy? They're just a search engine that index links automatically. Do they promote piracy? No. Heck if I recall there was a news Google was called to actually block some piracy shit. Not from it searches though. I think it was filtering for their new quick search or something.

The point is, Google is not related directly to piracy, those sites are. They are either the link provider or the file provider themselves. BIG difference there. File hoster not deliberately and as far as I know, they will take down few files that probably was reported. But having mainly used for piracy here in Malaysia doesn't exactly bode well with service providers.
You are in denial. Tell me the good usages of those file hoster other than getting illegal pirated products? I see one person exchanging files from colleagues but how many people actually work with that big size of files on a daily basis? Go to the premium account seller thread. Ask ANYONE in that thread what are they using it for. I'm sure you'll have a hard time finding one with legal usage.
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Nuff said,

"Kerana nila setitik, rosak susu sebelanga"

And I don't get you, which file hoster/provider isn't legal?
It's the user fault at utilizing them the wrong way, and just because of that the site was taken down?

That's the mentality of Malaysian.
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I have a megaupload premium lifetime account, if you see the files I share inside, they are all photos from DSLR (which are huge) and powerpoint presentations, how is that illegal?
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People that are supporting this are obviously in the same prejudgment mindset as SKMM. File hosts = illegal just as P2P = illegal.
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QUOTE(linkeong @ Jun 10 2011, 11:41 AM)
I have a megaupload premium lifetime account, if you see the files I share inside, they are all photos from DSLR (which are huge) and powerpoint presentations, how is that illegal?
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they don't care, SKMM is prolly only being directed by TM/gomen to issue this order. so that they no need to pay more in acquiring global bandwidth and they can continue to oversell their unifi/screamyx.
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How about YouTube? They host tons of copyright infriging material as well. This is plain dumb.
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just when the government is kecoh2 to improve and expand the internet industry in the country, this shit happening. now how are we gonna improve? *sigh* they can just forget all those talk now. nothing can be achieve. stop giving netbook to students and all crap.

really disappointing.
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Damn... it's time for me to downgrade my streamyx from 4MB to 512. Good SKMM, good SKMM... block all sites. leave only 1malaysia email ... S**t

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Maybe next time they will block everything except politics and tv3 =_=. Aiyo
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 10:58 AM)
Less customer = good for me. Less idiots.
Anyway as for govt, sure I've seen myself one person quite high up having those files. But do they download them in the office? No. Just with private corporation, they have firewalls. Think they can go to all those websites in the first place? I may not know if  they do block or not, but torrents are certainly out of the picture.

With all that said, just because the EMPLOYEES are doing illegal shit, that gives you permission to do so?
Another idiotic comparison. How does Google have anything to do with piracy? They're just a search engine that index links automatically. Do they promote piracy? No. Heck if I recall there was a news Google was called to actually block some piracy shit. Not from it searches though. I think it was filtering for their new quick search or something.

The point is, Google is not related directly to piracy, those sites are. They are either the link provider or the file provider themselves. BIG difference there. File hoster not deliberately and as far as I know, they will take down few files that probably was reported. But having mainly used for piracy here in Malaysia doesn't exactly bode well with service providers.
You are in denial. Tell me the good usages of those file hoster other than getting illegal pirated products? I see one person exchanging files from colleagues but how many people actually work with that big size of files on a daily basis? Go to the premium account seller thread. Ask ANYONE in that thread what are they using it for. I'm sure you'll have a hard time finding one with legal usage.
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This is just assine

Technically file hosting isn't illegal. There are many MMO companies that use them to host game clients. If something isn't illegal, you cannot claim its illegal just because of your misguided conception that you have the authority of defining whats illegal and what isn't.

Who voted you to decide what's legal and whats not? Thats right, no one. So unless you can prove that what they are doing is in breach of any rules, you cannot claim that they are illegal.


And secondly, you are in favor of internet censorship? Do you know what are the fundamental rights that should be guaranteed under democracy? ISP is a service provider, they should not interfere with how its customer uses the internet. What gives them and the government such power to overrule people's rights and freedom?

And finally, intellectual property protection is a civil case. Why must everyone including the government and ISP bent over backwards to server the RIAA and MPAA? How can those company, just another ordinary cooperation mind you, have so much power over everyone else? How can you block access to a site without trial? Guilty until proven otherwise?

What a tool
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QUOTE(ekudz @ Jun 10 2011, 01:19 AM)
kemon la... they block with reason even the reason is not reasonable.. u sendiri guna download haram even just movie then how?
i dont think govt will ban youtube.. unless someone do something teruk then maybe laaa ..

so please think out of the box please .. dont just tembak only...

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Show me "download halal" please... i don't want to waste my patrol, spend a hour for a traffic jam just to get the "halal" VCD, DVD. i need to utilize my 4MB streamyx too.. kebebasan ber "click" pun nak di sekat... S**T
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You cannot blame goverment , they can do nothing because they were pressure by software and movie industries like hollywood or tvb for allowing their citizen to view free video and use crack software freely.They need to do something else big things can happen.We already very lucky because cyber law not really very stringent , other advance country early already implement this , didn't you see so many torrent site being strip down already?Example like mininova , our Malaysian still so ignorant and dunno what happen in the world and now continue to complain.


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:41 pmIf they really wan earn $$ through this way , early they already ban facebook la , and then call you all go use malaysia social networking site http://www.rilek.net/sn/ , and force you all to pay and use it , like that they earn more la.Why din they do so because they nt blocking those warez site to earn $$ ,but because they want stop piracy due to pressure by those industries.Facebook also doesnt contain any piracy stuff and it's free and just a site where people socialize , that's why it still running.If you go china they ban facebook ,that's their own goverment decision , but not because facebook say they din pay to use and use piracy facebook so goverment ban


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:44 pmAnd our ISP already very loose already only ban through DNS you can bypass through this :

To bypass blocking megavideo , megaupload , thepiratebay etc , follow the instructions below

1.)Click Start.
2.)Open Control Panel.
3.)Open Network and Internet
4.)Open Network and Sharing Center
5.)On the left click Change adapter settings
6.)You'll see a few icon with name Local Area Connection , Wireless Network Connection and etc if there are still other.
7.)If you're now connect with cable , right click Local Area connection and click Properties , if you're using wifi , find the icon with green color bar and name Wireless Local Area Connection or Wireless Local Area connection and click Properties.
8.)A small window will pop out , and you'll see a list of stuff with a tick on its left.Double click the Internet Protocol Version 4(TCP/IPv4).
9.)Choose Use the following DNS server addresses:
10.)At the Preferred DNS server box : , type 8.8.8.8
11.)At the Alternate DNS server box : , type 8.8.4.4
12.)Click OK to close the box , and again OK to close the previous box.
13.)Enjoy yourself.


You think they so stupid that only ban through DNS and let you all bypas so easily??Is because they want us to get cyber freedom also , the thing is they were pressure by industries.That's why they just do something on it , so that they could use the reason when those industries complain , they can say : "Dunno ar , i already block liao , the thing in our citizen too clever they bypass it , we already do our part so dun f***ing kacau us"


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:46 pm
QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 10 2011, 12:21 PM)
This is just assine

Technically file hosting isn't illegal. There are many MMO companies that use them to host game clients. If something isn't illegal, you cannot claim its illegal just because of your misguided conception that you have the authority of defining whats illegal and what isn't.

Who voted you to decide what's legal and whats not? Thats right, no one. So unless you can prove that what they are doing is in breach of any rules, you cannot claim that they are illegal.
And secondly, you are in favor of internet censorship? Do you know what are the fundamental rights that should be guaranteed under democracy? ISP is a service provider, they should not interfere with how its customer uses the internet. What gives them and the government such power to overrule people's rights and freedom?

And finally, intellectual property protection is a civil case. Why must everyone including the government and ISP bent over backwards to server the RIAA and MPAA? How can those company, just another ordinary cooperation mind you, have so much power over everyone else? How can you block access to a site without trial? Guilty until proven otherwise?

What a tool
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Like that i think killing people also not illegal , but why goverment say it's illegal , why can't i've my own view but instead need to follow their rules??



This post has been edited by kailoonthedog: Jun 10 2011, 01:47 PM
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QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Jun 10 2011, 01:39 PM)
You cannot blame goverment , they can do nothing because they were pressure by software and movie industries like hollywood or tvb for allowing their citizen to view free video and use crack software freely.They need to do something else big things can happen.We already very lucky because cyber law not really very stringent , other advance country early already implement this , didn't you see so many torrent site being strip down already?Example like mininova , our Malaysian still so ignorant and dunno what happen in the world and now continue to complain.


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:41 pmIf they really wan earn $$ through this way , early they already ban facebook la , and then call you all go use malaysia social networking site http://www.rilek.net/sn/ , and force you all to pay and use it , like that they earn more la.Why din they do so because they nt blocking those warez site to earn $$ ,but because they want stop piracy due to pressure by those industries.Facebook also doesnt contain any piracy stuff and it's free and just a site where people socialize , that's why it still running.If you go china they ban facebook ,that's their own goverment decision , but not because facebook say they din pay to use and use piracy facebook so goverment ban
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If the government is so weak that they have to give in to the recording industry, boy I hope they don't get voted back into office in the coming election shocking.gif

Its our country, the government can just tell the RIAA and MPAA to go pound sand. Malaysia doesn't belong to them


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:49 pm
QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Jun 10 2011, 01:39 PM)
Like that i think killing people also not illegal , but why goverment say it's illegal , why can't i've my own view but instead need to follow their rules??
Huh? That was my point bro

Just because his own misguided opinion says its illegal, doesn't make them illegal. There are no rules that say file hosting services is illegal, so no matter what he thinks, his opinion doesn't justify this horrible internet censorship

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QUOTE(kailoonthedog @ Jun 10 2011, 01:39 PM)
You cannot blame goverment , they can do nothing because they were pressure by software and movie industries like hollywood or tvb for allowing their citizen to view free video and use crack software freely.They need to do something else big things can happen.We already very lucky because cyber law not really very stringent , other advance country early already implement this , didn't you see so many torrent site being strip down already?Example like mininova , our Malaysian still so ignorant and dunno what happen in the world and now continue to complain.
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So why is this pressure not extended to other countries? Piratebay/Megaupload/Megavideo/Fileserve/etc is not blocked in other countries. The only one implementing this block is bolehland. Its so blatant to see that the gomen/tmnuts is doing this in order to conserve bandwidth. Afterall, those sites are the most "used" sites for filesharing/downloading. I could somewhat understand blocking piratebay/warez-bb but not the filesharing sites (megavideo,megaupload,etc).

Mininova being stripped down is not the same as this and is a terrible example. What happened was that the site had to remove their copyright content after being served by legal means/papers. This on the otherhand is outright blocking. As many others have stated, if they cared about preserving copyrights the appropriate action would be informing the respective file sharing providers to remove the illegal content.
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QUOTE(Sey @ Jun 10 2011, 01:51 PM)
So why is this pressure not extended to other countries? Piratebay/Megaupload/Megavideo/Fileserve/etc is not blocked in other countries. The only one implementing this block is bolehland. Its so blatant to see that the gomen/tmnuts is doing this in order to conserve bandwidth. Afterall, those sites are the most "used" sites for filesharing/downloading. I could somewhat understand blocking piratebay/warez-bb but not the filesharing sites (megavideo,megaupload,etc).

Mininova being stripped down is not the same as this and is a terrible example. What happened was that the site had to remove their copyright content after being served by legal means/papers. This on the otherhand is outright blocking. As many others have stated, if they cared about preserving copyrights the appropriate action would be informing the respective file sharing providers to remove the illegal content.
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msia gomen only know how to deny negative differences with other countries with excuses. "our ranking drop because THEIR ranking standard is not in favor for us" "our ranking drop because others discriminate us"

msia gomen always right, never wrong. this time, gomen will say this is the right thing to do, because THEIR piracy policy not same with ours.
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The main point is, it's not about combating piracy, it's about TM, P1, maxis etc trying to save their bandwidth so they can sell more broadband without upgrading their infrastructure.
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 10 2011, 10:58 AM)
Less customer = good for me. Less idiots.
Anyway as for govt, sure I've seen myself one person quite high up having those files. But do they download them in the office? No. Just with private corporation, they have firewalls. Think they can go to all those websites in the first place? I may not know if  they do block or not, but torrents are certainly out of the picture.

With all that said, just because the EMPLOYEES are doing illegal shit, that gives you permission to do so?
Another idiotic comparison. How does Google have anything to do with piracy? They're just a search engine that index links automatically. Do they promote piracy? No. Heck if I recall there was a news Google was called to actually block some piracy shit. Not from it searches though. I think it was filtering for their new quick search or something.

The point is, Google is not related directly to piracy, those sites are. They are either the link provider or the file provider themselves. BIG difference there. File hoster not deliberately and as far as I know, they will take down few files that probably was reported. But having mainly used for piracy here in Malaysia doesn't exactly bode well with service providers.
You are in denial. Tell me the good usages of those file hoster other than getting illegal pirated products? I see one person exchanging files from colleagues but how many people actually work with that big size of files on a daily basis? Go to the premium account seller thread. Ask ANYONE in that thread what are they using it for. I'm sure you'll have a hard time finding one with legal usage.
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http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1330&sec=nation Out in the news.


I dont agree with the action taken by MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division (DTCCED). First, DTCCED doesnt have the right to declare the files hosting sites as illegal. Only the Federal Court of Malaysia has the right to do so. Second, this is CLEARLY ILLEGAL action taken by MCMC and DTCCED because this is not about compliance with law. There isnt any declaration by Federal Court of Malaysia that all the listed sites are illegal in any sense. Therefore, this is a form of censorship and contradict the no censorship policy.


Therefore, MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division SHOULD RETRACT the blocking order.
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So now confirm these sites will be blocked,just like how some p**n sites have been blocked?So to bypass this,we use the method shown by kailoonthedog above?
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QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 10 2011, 04:59 PM)
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1330&sec=nation Out in the news.
I dont agree with the action taken by MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division (DTCCED). First, DTCCED doesnt have the right to declare the files hosting sites as illegal. Only the Federal Court of Malaysia has the right to do so. Second, this is CLEARLY ILLEGAL action taken by MCMC and DTCCED because this is not about compliance with law. There isnt any declaration by Federal Court of Malaysia that all the listed sites are illegal in any sense. Therefore, this is a form of censorship and contradict the no censorship policy.
Therefore, MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division SHOULD RETRACT the blocking order.
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QUOTE(MNet @ Jun 9 2011, 07:08 PM)
i applaud this move.

Can drive up economy.
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Can you explain your reasoning?

As I see it, piracy helps the Malaysian economy. Malaysia doesn't produce very much IP, particularly entertainment. orders of magnitude more dollars leave the country to purchase foreign entertainment than stay here to fund local production.

If that money remained here it could be used for other domestically beneficial productive purposes.

It is every Malaysian's patriotic duty to pirate as much as possible.
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So now confirm these sites will be blocked,just like how some p**n sites have been blocked?So to bypass this,we use the method shown by kailoonthedog above?
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Added on June 10, 2011, 1:41 pm
You think they so stupid that only ban through DNS and let you all bypas so easily??Is because they want us to get cyber freedom also , the thing is they were pressure by industries.That's why they just do something on it , so that they could use the reason when those industries complain , they can say : "Dunno ar , i already block liao , the thing in our citizen too clever they bypass it , we already do our part so dun f***ing kacau us"


Added on June 10, 2011, 1:46 pm
Like that i think killing people also not illegal , but why goverment say it's illegal , why can't i've my own view but instead need to follow their rules??
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QUOTE(nerodante80 @ Jun 10 2011, 04:13 PM)
The main point is, it's not about combating piracy, it's about TM, P1, maxis etc trying to save their bandwidth so they can sell more broadband without upgrading their infrastructure.
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I wonder, but then again, if they are really serious about this, why use crappy method to block?


QUOTE(JohnLai @ Jun 10 2011, 05:59 PM)
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...1330&sec=nation Out in the news.
I dont agree with the action taken by MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division (DTCCED). First, DTCCED doesnt have the right to declare the files hosting sites as illegal. Only the Federal Court of Malaysia has the right to do so. Second, this is CLEARLY ILLEGAL action taken by MCMC and DTCCED because this is not about compliance with law. There isnt any declaration by Federal Court of Malaysia that all the listed sites are illegal in any sense. Therefore, this is a form of censorship and contradict the no censorship policy.
Therefore, MCMC and Domestic Trade, Co-operatives and Consumerism's Enforcement Division SHOULD RETRACT the blocking order.
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How about YouTube? They host tons of copyright infriging material as well. This is plain dumb.
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lol isn't warez-bb a forum? Funny that they'd block that...
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sales of pirated dvd drop big time...
hence the block and ban...
go figure...
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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Jun 10 2011, 05:35 PM)
Can you explain your reasoning?

As I see it, piracy helps the Malaysian economy. Malaysia doesn't produce very much IP, particularly entertainment. orders of magnitude more dollars leave the country to purchase foreign entertainment than stay here to fund local production.

If that money remained here it could be used for other domestically beneficial productive purposes.

It is every Malaysian's patriotic duty to pirate as much as possible.
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People, people chill. As far as we know, Malaysian ISP block using DNS method. So what we can do is change DNS to something. I personally use ClearCloud a long time ago and I could access all block page. smile.gif rclxms.gif There is no slow down in speed when I use ClearCloud. Unfortunately, GFI is going to terminate CleaarCloud in September. Until then, I will change it to Norton DNS as it provide protection against online threats and getting good recommendation on Wilders. Our blockage is not as extreme as Europe and America for now... (I follow all this file sharing news). So a simple DNS change ought to bypass whatever ISP you are using.

Secondly, you can use Tor to bypass restricted website. Haven't try before.

Thirdly, there are free VPN available. Try SecurityKISS. The only downside is they capped the bandwidth allocation at 300MB/day = 9GB a month. That is one of the most trust worthy free VPN.

Fourthly, For those using Megaupload, try Mediafire. It is awesome.
*Unlimited uploads but uploads must be max up to 200MB/file.
*Unlimited downloads
*No waiting time (unlike rapidshare and others)
*Support download managers
*Able to privatise your file and password protect your file.
*Able to resume download
*FREE rclxms.gif

So we are quite safe at the moment. biggrin.gif


Malaysia memang boleh. Can make it to Torrentfreak.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 10:19 AM)
Secondly, you can use Tor to bypass restricted website. Haven't try before.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 11:19 PM)
People, people chill. As far as we know, Malaysian ISP block using DNS method. So what we can do is change DNS to something. I personally use ClearCloud a long time ago and I could access all block page. smile.gif  rclxms.gif There is no slow down in speed when I use ClearCloud. Unfortunately, GFI is going to terminate CleaarCloud in September. Until then, I will change it to Norton DNS as it provide protection against online threats and getting good recommendation on Wilders. Our blockage is not as extreme as Europe and America for now... (I follow all this file sharing news). So a simple DNS change ought to bypass whatever ISP you are using.

Secondly, you can use Tor to bypass restricted website. Haven't try before.

Thirdly, there are free VPN available. Try SecurityKISS. The only downside is they capped the bandwidth allocation at 300MB/day = 9GB a month. That is one of the most trust worthy free VPN.

Fourthly, For those using Megaupload, try Mediafire. It is awesome.
*Unlimited uploads but uploads must be max up to 200MB/file.
*Unlimited downloads
*No waiting time (unlike rapidshare and others)
*Support download managers
*Able to privatise your file and password protect your file.
*Able to resume download
*FREE  rclxms.gif

So we are quite safe at the moment.  biggrin.gif
Malaysia memang boleh. Can make it to Torrentfreak.
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Thanks for the VPN.

Btw,how come certain popular p**n sites have been blocked too?Is that the ISP's doing as well?

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actually TM doesn't just use DNS blocking anymore

An example is that YouPrawns is IP blocked
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QUOTE(bigbangformula @ Jun 10 2011, 11:55 PM)
Thanks for the VPN.

Btw,how come certain popular p**n sites have been blocked too?Is that the ISP's doing as well?
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Guess so. As TM said they will block porn sites and extremist sites. So I guess they really do ban it.
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Guys, if you really want to take action, send an official complain to MCMC. If sufficiently large numbers of people register their complains, we may see action taken.

Blocking these sites is plain ridiculous for multiple reasons:
- No other democratic nation in the world blocks these sites
- All of these sites offer methods to report copyright infringing materials
- All of these sites honour the copyright reporting and immediately delete such materials
- Not all the materials on these sites are copyrighted
- This is internet censorship plain and simple and goes against the principles set out in the 10 Point MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 11:19 PM)

Fourthly, For those using Megaupload, try Mediafire. It is awesome.
i know, i too would pick MF any day if given the choices. but u see, it's not up to us the DOWNLOADER which site the files gonna be hosted. And u know MU, FServe are the The Scene's fav's hosting... shakehead.gif
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what the point for subscribing UNIFI ?????

We subscribe UNIFI for faster download at filesharing website.

Lets unsubscribe unifi.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 11:19 PM)
People, people chill. As far as we know, Malaysian ISP block using DNS method. So what we can do is change DNS to something.

What if they block the IP address of the website?
Whatever DNS you use also cannot reach that IP address.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 11 2011, 12:04 AM)
Guess so. As TM said they will block porn sites and extremist sites. So I guess they really do ban it.
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So now the government want to block porn also when its not wrong?
I bet all those high ranking gov official also use those stuff.. hypocrite wankers.

This is worse than China if Malaysian people don't do something and protest against it sad.gif


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What if they block the IP address of the website?
Whatever DNS you use also cannot reach that IP address.
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Got some free VPN for browsing. I forgot what is it called already, long time never use. They created it for country like Iran when the gov block online social sites. But its available to everyone for free.

AOL also provide free VPN, but need to install their software.

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QUOTE(busted85 @ Jun 11 2011, 09:06 AM)
Got some free VPN for browsing. I forgot what is it called already, long time never use. They created it for country like Iran when the gov block online social sites. But its available to everyone for free.

AOL also provide free VPN, but need to install their software.
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What if they block the IP address of the website?
Whatever DNS you use also cannot reach that IP address.
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First of all, Malaysia use DNS blocking. As far as I experience. The common folks won't know how to change DNS. So majority of the population have to abide without knowing how to bypass filtering. So why would they bother about the minority who knows how to bypass filtering when majority of the population is filtered?

Second, to implement a new type of filtering, it will cost them in terms of work load and financial aspects. Do you think with "Malaysia Tidak Apa" attitude, TM (the main ISP) will want to do it? I don't think so. If they want to do, more work for them and they have to spend more.

Thirdly, there is always Tor. Never tried it before but apparently, Tor can bypass the Great Firewall of China. So if it can bypass the Great Firewall of China, I doubt there is a filtering firewall left as great as The Great Firewall of China.

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Tor is a network of virtual tunnels that allows people and groups to improve their privacy and security on the Internet. It also enables software developers to create new communication tools with built-in privacy features. Tor provides the foundation for a range of applications that allow organizations and individuals to share information over public networks without compromising their privacy.

Individuals use Tor to keep websites from tracking them and their family members, or to connect to news sites, instant messaging services, or the like when these are blocked by their local Internet providers. Tor's hidden services let users publish web sites and other services without needing to reveal the location of the site. Individuals also use Tor for socially sensitive communication: chat rooms and web forums for rape and abuse survivors, or people with illnesses. 


Fourth, we are not the US or European countries where copyright law is really enforce. If you are there, it is really difficult to download illegal stuff. Man in black will arrive within minutes if you try downloading something. cool2.gif

Fifth, there are always VPN services. This I like the most. Even if they block IPs, with a VPN, everything you do online is encrypted. They don't know where you go or what you do at the website. whistling.gif If all of the above is done, the final step is VPN. They can't block VPNs cause big companies use them. If I were to go with a VPN, I will choose BolehVPN. For RM0.70 a day (If you subscribe to the 1 year package), you can download unlimited torrent at uncap speed, access restricted website, load international sites at the speed you pay for (Not using VPN but I didn't experience it-slow loading of international sites) I will say is a steal. In addition, they don't implement quota.


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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 08:52 PM)
Fourth, we are not the US or European countries where copyright law is really enforce. If you are there, it is really difficult to download illegal stuff. Man in black will arrive within minutes if you try downloading something.  cool2.gif
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TOR is very slow la.

redtube and ujizz still accessible. no problemo. i'm using opendns.
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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ Jun 11 2011, 12:16 AM)
Guys, if you really want to take action, send an official complain to MCMC. If sufficiently large numbers of people register their complains, we may see action taken.

Blocking these sites is plain ridiculous for multiple reasons:
- No other democratic nation in the world blocks these sites
- All of these sites offer methods to report copyright infringing materials
- All of these sites honour the copyright reporting and immediately delete such materials
- Not all the materials on these sites are copyrighted
- This is internet censorship plain and simple and goes against the principles set out in the 10 Point MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees
Consumer Complaints Bureau/
Biro Aduan Pengguna: :
Suruhanjaya Komunikasi & Multimedia Malaysia,
Off Persiaran Multimedia,
63000 Cyberjaya, Selangor.

Facsimile/Faksimili:
+603 8688 1880
Complaint Hotline/Talian Aduan:
1-800-888-030
SMS :
SKMM ADUAN [Complaint Details] SMS to 15888

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E-mail: aduanskmm@cmc.gov.my
Also join the community here:
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Post this on the Prime Minister's Facebook wall en-masse:
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Actually the filehosting can still apply for unblock if they request from SKMM/MCMC and by doing that all illegal/piracy stuff will be removed

so if your purpose is truly for the legal stuff you can write to blocked filehosting and request that they write to skmm/mcmc
or maybe they will do that if alot of premium user in malaysia since they also abide the copyright rules to evade from being sued

this is information i get after asking a friend from both mcmc and telekom malaysia

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I was just joking about the Man in Black. But it is true about their copyright laws. In italy, all torrent sites are block. In US, people caught downloading movies from torrent will be haul up court with a pay up or else scheme.
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 10 2011, 09:56 PM)
I was just joking about the Man in Black. But it is true about their copyright laws. In italy, all torrent sites are block. In US, people caught downloading movies from torrent will be haul up court with a pay up or else scheme.
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I know MIB was a joke tongue.gif But seemed like you were implying that a majority of them gets caught; fact is, only a very small minority do (referring to US, no idea about Europe).
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Potential savings for ISPs

KUALA LUMPUR: Internet service providers (ISPs) can potentially save more by paying less for international gateway and also reduce bandwidth congestions on their network following the instruction to block access to 10 peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing sites.

Analysts said more than 65% of all Internet traffic today stemmed from P2P file-sharing applications and if data consumption was lowered, it would result in ISPs paying less for their international gateway.

An international gateway allows voice and data traffic to pass through from one country to another.
John Cheah

P2P hosting sites allow users to download files such as music, movies, and games using a file sharing software that searches for other connected computers.

The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has received a request from the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry to prevent access to 10 websites that it found to have contravened the Copyright Act 1987. The commission has requested all ISPs to block access to those websites.

While ISPs could potentially stand to save more from paying high international gateway, an analyst said if the number of requests for overseas content was lower, there would not be any economies of scale resulting in service providers paying higher prices for international gateway.

He pointed out that just two months ago, Konsortium Rangkaian Serantau Sdn Bhd was set up to buy international bandwidth for Internet traffic in bulk to lower the costs of Internet protocol (IP) transit.

Concurrently, the move could also “hinder revenue” from subscribers as there are lesser means for data consumption.

It could also potentially lead to the termination of services by subscribers. Some ISPs earn additional revenue when subscribers run out of quota and decide to upgrade their broadband quotas.

A bank-backed analyst said that users would not just terminate their services just because the sites were blocked, adding that a minority group of users were hogging the bulk of network usage for such downloads.

The local service providers with their own international gateway points are Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™, Maxis Bhd, Time dotCom Bhd and U Mobile Sdn Bhd.

TM currently has control over most of the international gateways, landing points and bandwidth.

The move to filter access to those sites contradicts the Government's promise to not censor the Internet.

Under the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) Bill of Guarantees, the Government promises there would be no censorship of the Internet.

IDC Malaysia associate market analyst John Cheah said this move would cause some inconvenience to P2P users.

“However, there are many more P2P and direct download sites that are still easily accessible to users who are familiar with the sources.

“Hence, its effectiveness is limited to how many P2P piracy web site addresses MCMC can identify and block. Furthermore, resourceful users are able to find alternative solutions and sources to acquiring illegal content,” he said.

Cheah said content providers could look into means to “offer more competitive pricings” so as to encourage consumers to not be involved in the piracy of copyright content.

Additionally, piracy is a global problem that needs to be addressed by numerous parties both locally and internationally.”

Industry observers noted that if MCMC wanted to make an issue on tackling pirates, the best way was not to block but to co-operate and find alternative means.

“Forcibly blocking access to the website only lent more credence to online censorship which contradicts the MSC Bill of Guarantees. In fact, it is foolish to think that online censorship works. There are still many other ways for surfers to access the portal,” he said.

One observer was surprised to note that one major hosting service provider, RapidShare was not included in the list directed by MCMC to all ISPs.

They said these websites requested by MCMC to be blocked did not entirely host illegal copyright violating files. Some actually use these sites to transfer pictures and document. “People will still be able to find ways to access those websites. There are ways to easily bypass the firewall using VPN (virtual private network), proxy or paid proxy,” an analyst said.


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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 11 2011, 11:36 AM)
Potential savings for ISPs

KUALA LUMPUR: Internet service providers (ISPs) can potentially save more by paying less for international gateway and also reduce bandwidth congestions on their network following the instruction to block access to 10 peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing sites.

Analysts said more than 65% of all Internet traffic today stemmed from P2P file-sharing applications and if data consumption was lowered, it would result in ISPs paying less for their international gateway.

An international gateway allows voice and data traffic to pass through from one country to another.
John Cheah

P2P hosting sites allow users to download files such as music, movies, and games using a file sharing software that searches for other connected computers.

The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has received a request from the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry to prevent access to 10 websites that it found to have contravened the Copyright Act 1987. The commission has requested all ISPs to block access to those websites.

While ISPs could potentially stand to save more from paying high international gateway, an analyst said if the number of requests for overseas content was lower, there would not be any economies of scale resulting in service providers paying higher prices for international gateway.

He pointed out that just two months ago, Konsortium Rangkaian Serantau Sdn Bhd was set up to buy international bandwidth for Internet traffic in bulk to lower the costs of Internet protocol (IP) transit.

Concurrently, the move could also “hinder revenue” from subscribers as there are lesser means for data consumption.

It could also potentially lead to the termination of services by subscribers. Some ISPs earn additional revenue when subscribers run out of quota and decide to upgrade their broadband quotas.

A bank-backed analyst said that users would not just terminate their services just because the sites were blocked, adding that a minority group of users were hogging the bulk of network usage for such downloads.

The local service providers with their own international gateway points are Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™, Maxis Bhd, Time dotCom Bhd and U Mobile Sdn Bhd.

TM currently has control over most of the international gateways, landing points and bandwidth.

The move to filter access to those sites contradicts the Government's promise to not censor the Internet.

Under the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) Bill of Guarantees, the Government promises there would be no censorship of the Internet.

IDC Malaysia associate market analyst John Cheah said this move would cause some inconvenience to P2P users.

“However, there are many more P2P and direct download sites that are still easily accessible to users who are familiar with the sources.

“Hence, its effectiveness is limited to how many P2P piracy web site addresses MCMC can identify and block. Furthermore, resourceful users are able to find alternative solutions and sources to acquiring illegal content,” he said.

Cheah said content providers could look into means to “offer more competitive pricings” so as to encourage consumers to not be involved in the piracy of copyright content.

Additionally, piracy is a global problem that needs to be addressed by numerous parties both locally and internationally.”

Industry observers noted that if MCMC wanted to make an issue on tackling pirates, the best way was not to block but to co-operate and find alternative means.

“Forcibly blocking access to the website only lent more credence to online censorship which contradicts the MSC Bill of Guarantees. In fact, it is foolish to think that online censorship works. There are still many other ways for surfers to access the portal,” he said.

One observer was surprised to note that one major hosting service provider, RapidShare was not included in the list directed by MCMC to all ISPs.

They said these websites requested by MCMC to be blocked did not entirely host illegal copyright violating files. Some actually use these sites to transfer pictures and document. “People will still be able to find ways to access those websites. There are ways to easily bypass the firewall using VPN (virtual private network), proxy or paid proxy,” an analyst said.
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I don't think that is an effective way to block p2p traffic.

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so are we still going to cry here..or take REAL action complaining to the authorities?
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I don't understand why internet censorship isn't taken seriously here. The media go on talking about saving bandwidth and other horse sh!t and nobody mentioned that we are practicing internet censorship

Malaysian needs to wake up and see whats really going on. This is not about combating piracy or saving up for another yacht or a Ferrari for TM's CEO. This is about the government taking away our freedom. No form of internet censorship should be tolerated by anyone, and sadly many people don't even see whats going on


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so are we still going to cry here..or take REAL action complaining to the authorities?
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Authorities who are controlled by the government. I doubt it will help

I saw we vote them out of the office

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I don't understand why internet censorship isn't taken seriously here. The media go on talking about saving bandwidth and other horse sh!t and nobody mentioned that we are practicing internet censorship

Malaysian needs to wake up and see whats really going on. This is not about combating piracy or saving up for another yacht or a Ferrari for TM's CEO. This is about the government taking away our freedom. No form of internet censorship should be tolerated by anyone, and sadly many people don't even see whats going on
Authorities who are controlled by the government. I doubt it will help

I saw we vote them out of the office
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too bad they are still many DUMB A$$ ppl voting for them..
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The reason why the rampant piracy is because dvd, blu-ray, originals are just too damn expensive and hard to find (most I can only get it in KL or overseas). Instead of finding ways to make originals more appealing and cheaper they set of to ban anything they deem "not appropriate". But that's not the main reason why I complain and piracy is definitely wrong. What I fear is that once you let government get away with this "minor" blockage, you will eventually see them trigger happy blocking Everything they don't want you to see. The next thing we know, in the near future, the only site we probably can go is Najib's wife revitalized pink blog, ...oh... the Horror! (To bash and make fun of of course)

PS: Vote Barang Naik Out!

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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 12:35 PM)
The reason why the rampant piracy is because dvd, blu-ray, originals are just too damn expensive and hard to find (most I can only get it in KL or overseas). Instead of finding ways to make originals more appealing and cheaper they set of to ban anything they deem "not appropriate". But that's not the main reason why I complain and piracy is definitely wrong.  What I fear is that  once you let government get away with this "minor" blockage, you will eventually see them trigger happy blocking Everything they don't want you to see. The next thing we know, in the near future, the only site we probably can go is Najib's wife revitalized pink blog, ...oh... the Horror! (To bash and make fun of of course)

PS: Vote Barang Naik Out!
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and the SGD = RM

oh those glorious days...
why internet shopping wasn't invented then..
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QUOTE(eddie_lim @ Jun 11 2011, 12:51 PM)
Same here. With proxy, I could go through. Looks like changing DNS is no longer helping for piratebay. Don't knnow about the rest.

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QUOTE(eddie_lim @ Jun 11 2011, 12:51 PM)
nah chill... piratebay is really down now... other websites (fileserve, etc) are still accessible from here smile.gif
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nah chill... piratebay is really down now... other websites (fileserve, etc) are still accessible from here  smile.gif
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I just use a proxy and I could access it. No proxy, but change in DNS cannot access. I don't use Piratebay anyway. Others didn't check.

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nah chill... piratebay is really down now... other websites (fileserve, etc) are still accessible from here  smile.gif
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using Unifi, looks like it is blocked as can only access via proxy ...... vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(DeniseLau @ Jun 11 2011, 01:16 AM)
Guys, if you really want to take action, send an official complain to MCMC. If sufficiently large numbers of people register their complains, we may see action taken.

Blocking these sites is plain ridiculous for multiple reasons:
- No other democratic nation in the world blocks these sites
- All of these sites offer methods to report copyright infringing materials
- All of these sites honour the copyright reporting and immediately delete such materials
- Not all the materials on these sites are copyrighted
- This is internet censorship plain and simple and goes against the principles set out in the 10 Point MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees
Consumer Complaints Bureau/
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Suruhanjaya Komunikasi & Multimedia Malaysia,
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Facsimile/Faksimili:
+603 8688 1880
Complaint Hotline/Talian Aduan:
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SMS :
SKMM ADUAN [Complaint Details] SMS to 15888

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Post this on the Prime Minister's Facebook wall en-masse:
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I think this should be spread. Pick a date, and we mass send this complain.

QUOTE(birain @ Jun 11 2011, 12:36 PM)
Potential savings for ISPs

KUALA LUMPUR: Internet service providers (ISPs) can potentially save more by paying less for international gateway and also reduce bandwidth congestions on their network following the instruction to block access to 10 peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing sites.

Analysts said more than 65% of all Internet traffic today stemmed from P2P file-sharing applications and if data consumption was lowered, it would result in ISPs paying less for their international gateway.

An international gateway allows voice and data traffic to pass through from one country to another.
John Cheah

P2P hosting sites allow users to download files such as music, movies, and games using a file sharing software that searches for other connected computers.

The Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) has received a request from the Domestic Trade, Cooperatives and Consumerism Ministry to prevent access to 10 websites that it found to have contravened the Copyright Act 1987. The commission has requested all ISPs to block access to those websites.

While ISPs could potentially stand to save more from paying high international gateway, an analyst said if the number of requests for overseas content was lower, there would not be any economies of scale resulting in service providers paying higher prices for international gateway.

He pointed out that just two months ago, Konsortium Rangkaian Serantau Sdn Bhd was set up to buy international bandwidth for Internet traffic in bulk to lower the costs of Internet protocol (IP) transit.

Concurrently, the move could also “hinder revenue” from subscribers as there are lesser means for data consumption.

It could also potentially lead to the termination of services by subscribers. Some ISPs earn additional revenue when subscribers run out of quota and decide to upgrade their broadband quotas.

A bank-backed analyst said that users would not just terminate their services just because the sites were blocked, adding that a minority group of users were hogging the bulk of network usage for such downloads.

The local service providers with their own international gateway points are Telekom Malaysia Bhd ™, Maxis Bhd, Time dotCom Bhd and U Mobile Sdn Bhd.

TM currently has control over most of the international gateways, landing points and bandwidth.

The move to filter access to those sites contradicts the Government's promise to not censor the Internet.

Under the Multimedia Super Corridor (MSC) Bill of Guarantees, the Government promises there would be no censorship of the Internet.

IDC Malaysia associate market analyst John Cheah said this move would cause some inconvenience to P2P users.

“However, there are many more P2P and direct download sites that are still easily accessible to users who are familiar with the sources.

“Hence, its effectiveness is limited to how many P2P piracy web site addresses MCMC can identify and block. Furthermore, resourceful users are able to find alternative solutions and sources to acquiring illegal content,” he said.

Cheah said content providers could look into means to “offer more competitive pricings” so as to encourage consumers to not be involved in the piracy of copyright content.

Additionally, piracy is a global problem that needs to be addressed by numerous parties both locally and internationally.”

Industry observers noted that if MCMC wanted to make an issue on tackling pirates, the best way was not to block but to co-operate and find alternative means.

“Forcibly blocking access to the website only lent more credence to online censorship which contradicts the MSC Bill of Guarantees. In fact, it is foolish to think that online censorship works. There are still many other ways for surfers to access the portal,” he said.

One observer was surprised to note that one major hosting service provider, RapidShare was not included in the list directed by MCMC to all ISPs.

They said these websites requested by MCMC to be blocked did not entirely host illegal copyright violating files. Some actually use these sites to transfer pictures and document. “People will still be able to find ways to access those websites. There are ways to easily bypass the firewall using VPN (virtual private network), proxy or paid proxy,” an analyst said.
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Seems to me like there's more coming. I mean all I can see from this action is they are thinking to save their damn money, not the consumer.

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Same here. With  proxy, I could go through. Looks like changing DNS is no longer helping.
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I think it's a staged process. You know lah how government service work. Try to delay everything until last minute, lol.
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QUOTE(leonardtan2 @ Jun 11 2011, 12:30 PM)
Yeah...Kepp voting for them la.. Than next time cannot access google also cause they willl give up some horse sh*t excuse that google search engine returns a lot of "prawn" sites results.
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China people can't access to google tongue.gif
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Could someone post down some proxy to use? I have only one. This is what I use.

http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html
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Could someone post down some proxy to use? I have only one. This is what I use.

http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html
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nice and thanks. if changing DNS doesn't work, what other options other than using proxy (excluding VPN) ?

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I can just imagine the tears of all the Unifi users who signed up just for downloading from these sites.

Seriously, you have to hand it to TMNet. They're a master troll. Promote the shit out of Unifi, then epicly block download sites.
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QUOTE(piskin @ Jun 11 2011, 01:09 PM)
China people can't access to google  tongue.gif
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anyway if TPB is down, try IsoHunt
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Or just use free VPN and get the torrent file then log out. You only need to download the kb sized file to get it to work anyway. Piratebay is just a search engine for torrents.
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Bring prices of Originals DVDs, BluRays, CDs, Softwares, Games & ETC down!

You'll see people will be willing to buy!

Singapore selling SGD15 for a Original XBOX 360 game (Not so updated)

Can you Malaysia do it?
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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 02:17 PM)
Or just use free VPN and get the torrent file then log out. You only need to download the kb sized file to get it to work anyway. Piratebay is just a search engine for torrents.
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Any suggestions for free VPN? didn't use free VPN for a long time d. smile.gif

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QUOTE(sohlican @ Jun 11 2011, 01:23 PM)
Bring prices of Originals DVDs, BluRays, CDs, Softwares, Games & ETC down!

You'll see people will be willing to buy!

Singapore selling SGD15 for a Original XBOX 360 game (Not so updated)

Can you Malaysia do it?
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+1 rclxms.gif

no way i m spending rm60 for 1 damm lady gaga cd till price drop rm30 laugh.gif
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+1 rclxms.gif

no way i m spending rm60 for 1 damm lady gaga cd till price drop rm30 laugh.gif
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QUOTE(sohlican @ Jun 11 2011, 01:23 PM)
Bring prices of Originals DVDs, BluRays, CDs, Softwares, Games & ETC down!

You'll see people will be willing to buy!

Singapore selling SGD15 for a Original XBOX 360 game (Not so updated)

Can you Malaysia do it?
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that is for older games.
even in m'sia, got som older ori games sold for 20 ~ 30 bucks.
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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 01:17 PM)
Or just use free VPN and get the torrent file then log out. You only need to download the kb sized file to get it to work anyway. Piratebay is just a search engine for torrents.
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Heck, just use any free proxies to access said sites and download the .torrent files, you won't be transferring much (if any at all) personal info anyway tongue.gif



I don't support piracy though. But I frequently download songs before purchasing them as a method to audit (if I don't like them I'd be deleting them anyhow).
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Try Tor (google it). Its free.
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Any other proxies? I need backup in case filestube cannot access.
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QUOTE(piskin @ Jun 11 2011, 01:09 PM)
China people can't access to google  tongue.gif
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Any other proxies? I need backup in case filestube cannot access.
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i use DNS n i can access like normal rclxms.gif
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Is it true? shocking.gif
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Seems true...since they also blocked FB. But they are communist country, so does that mean we are slowly turning into one?
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well this is suck why do have to be block how about other people using it for other reason like keepping such as personal file. It look like soon or later this country will be like china or north korea all information have to be filter or block if necessry it will be the new iron curtain of asia. And what next if there dont like you blog there will find you and keep you in cell block because of national security and become treat label as cyber terrorist.
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why doesn't my VPN (LA,USA) work for TPB? It is still inaccessible despite using OpenVPN but my uTorrent is running well.

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why doesn't my VPN (LA,USA) work for TPB? It is still inaccessible despite using OpenVPN but my uTorrent is running well.
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Because US have one of the most stringent copyright laws on the planet and I am sure the VPN provider don't want to be in hot soup with the authorities regarding stuff to do with TPB. So they block it.


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What next to ban, FB.... why dont they ban youtube, lot of pirate there too.

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QUOTE(whiteshirt @ Jun 11 2011, 02:55 PM)
What next to ban, FB.... why dont they ban youtube, lot of pirate there too.
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Then, SKMM need to block google too. They lead people to "pirate" tongue.gif If they dare to do it, prepare to face demostration like hosni mubarak, gomen
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http://www.isup.me/thepiratebay.org

Is up!!!

VPN accessible !!!

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It's futile. Where there's a will, there's a way. Plus, they are using DNS filtering which is easily bypassed. The use of DNS filtering is also an issue to take note of. Parcticularly, it's the same method that hackers used to poison DNS cache but in a legal and controlled way. This raises the question on how ISPs in Malaysia are going to implement DNSSEC in the future. If wanna block, do it properly. *facepalm*. Don' take me wrongly. I do not condone the filtering. There are other methods to solve the issue as was done previously like flagging for file removal instead of blocking the whole site.
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Bring prices of Originals DVDs, BluRays, CDs, Softwares, Games & ETC down!
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DNSSEC jeopardize the control of DNS poisoning from ISP... smile.gif, it couldn't be complied.
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DNSSEC jeopardize the control of DNS poisoning from ISP... smile.gif, it couldn't be complied.
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Oh great, Tmnut raping us in the anus, AGAIN. I bet they conspired with SKMM to block these sites so they could use cheaper and crappier infrastructure to support their current amount of users.

More blocked download sites = cheaper maintenance and more accounts to be sold by Tmnut.

Wanna guess how much these cronies idiots are profiting from this?

But can they implement it? Is there a way to bypass it? When is the deadline?

I can still access the sites listed on their stupid letter though.

Final word, are we doomed or is there still a shimmer of hope left?

Guys?
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Is forbidden access means blocked? Anyone pls clarify.
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Banning file hosting sites is like accusing post offices and banks of involving in illegal activities with PO Box/safe deposit box services.

Put it this simple way let's say Pos Malaysia offers a postbox service for the public.
Then some users illegally used it for distributing illegal items and sharing the location of box with others.

So who would you go after if you were the authorities?

1) Close down Pos Malaysia operation and cancel their operating licenses?

2) Go after the PO box subscriber and the parcel sender.

3) Go after the recipient. The ones who open the box (Might be framed or tricked into doing so to get into trouble)

If SKMM can directly put the blame on the file hosting company by banning access to them, then by all means our internet days looks gloomy in years to come.

They can one day even ban webmail accounts, cloud drives, cloud OS, whatever websites which they "believe" is a threat to them.

Many says we are adopting a firewall model similar to China's green dam.
To come to think of it, China did it for national security sake and they couldn't risk their big population going on strike.
It wasn't fueled by any religion, politics or interests and fear of getting influenced.

Our internet firewall model is modeled more towards those of Iran, Saudi Arabia and those Middle East nations.
Though their internet filtering mechanism is similar to China's it's not a surprise because China/US companies sold them the technology for the money.

Among examples of what those Middle countries do to their internet censorship policies are:

1)Hiring cybertroopers to seek out threats on blogs and public discussion forums.

2)Blocking access to western sites which they deemed or feel not in accordance to their ideologies

3)DPI- Deep packet inspection to monitor,jam and throttle services such as VoIP, file sharing, torrents, etc.

Read up about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...09068380136.htm

Iran's Internet Censorship Most Sophisticated in The World as reported by OpenNet Initiative.
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090619_ira..._sophisticated/

It's even far worst than any other countries even China which many think is already bad. It's almost totally influenced by politics, anti competition and dictatorship elements.

Given between China and Iran/Saudi Arabia,

Which model would you think Malaysia's internet is shaping to be and is based upon?
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How sure are you guys that the ISPs will use IP protect or DNS filtering?

Cant they use something more exotic that we dont know about?

Btw, if they use IP protect or DNS filtering, can we still access these sites using IP only? (I know, dumb question, but I'm not an expert in this).


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Banning file hosting sites is like accusing post offices and banks of involving in illegal activities with PO Box/safe deposit box services.

Put it this simple way let's say Pos Malaysia offers a postbox service for the public.
Then some users illegally used it for distributing illegal items and sharing the location of box with others.

So who would you go after if you were the authorities?

1) Close down Pos Malaysia operation and cancel their operating licenses?

2) Go after the PO box subscriber and the parcel sender.

3) Go after the recipient. The ones who open the box (Might be framed or tricked into doing so to get into trouble)

If SKMM can directly put the blame on the file hosting company by banning access to them, then by all means our internet days looks gloomy in years to come.

They can one day even ban webmail accounts, cloud drives, cloud OS, whatever websites which they "believe" is a threat to them.

Many says we are adopting a firewall model similar to China's green dam.
To come to think of it, China did it for national security sake and they couldn't risk their big population going on strike.
It wasn't fueled by any religion, politics or interests and fear of getting influenced.

Our internet firewall model is modeled more towards those of Iran, Saudi Arabia and those Middle East nations.
Though their internet filtering mechanism is similar to China's it's not a surprise because China/US companies sold them the technology for the money.

Among examples of what those Middle countries do to their internet censorship policies are:

1)Hiring cybertroopers to seek out threats on blogs and public discussion forums.

2)Blocking access to western sites which they deemed or feel not in accordance to their ideologies

3)DPI- Deep packet inspection to monitor,jam and throttle services such as VoIP, file sharing, torrents, etc.

Read up about it here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_censorship_in_Iran

http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/conte...09068380136.htm

Iran's Internet Censorship Most Sophisticated in The World as reported by OpenNet Initiative.
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20090619_ira..._sophisticated/

It's even far worst than any other countries even China which many think is already bad. It's almost totally influenced by politics, anti competition and dictatorship elements.

Given between China and Iran/Saudi Arabia,

Which model would you think Malaysia's internet is shaping to be and is based upon?
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It doesnt matter if its ethical or uncivilized, as long as the ISPs are stupid enough to comply/conspire with SKMM, they WILL DO IT.

This is Malaysia, apa tahi pun boleh, as long as you have the money, power and cronies connection.

Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?

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It doesnt matter if its ethical or uncivilized, as long as the ISPs are stupid enough to comply/conspire with SKMM, they WILL DO IT.

This is Malaysia, apa tahi pun boleh, as long as you have the money, power and cronies connection.

Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?
Among all the isps in Malaysia you should already know which of the few would be directly comply and give direct insights with least efforts. smile.gif

Some already say that they are the same people as SKMM themselves.

Ah, they won't be charging the cheapest and being the most generous if it wasn't for this reason, would they?
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Lets just hope the ISPs are not as STUPID as we THINK they are.

Just say NO to SKMM, they cant arrest the ISP, can they?
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Not stupid, smart!
Smart to hide their real agendas behind copyright protection.
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Not very happy about the blockages and FUP also. I torrent shows because Astro refuses to show certain shows (Top Gear, latest animes) or unavailable at all (Borat, Bruno, Zoolander). Local TV is crap and is something I watch while waiting at the KK.

Maybe the anti-cap people can go join the Bersih rally also. Not happy with Dear Leader Najib screwing us out of the one thing that makes living in Malaysia bearable.
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Tens of Thousands of my fellow internet users & I will be voting you out of office in the next GE because you lied to us about not censoring the internet. May you burn in hell for all eternity for your lies.
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In Saudi Arabia according to Wikipedia:

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Saudi Arabia directs all international Internet traffic through a proxy farm located in King Abdulaziz City for Science & Technology. Content filter is implemented there, based on software by Secure Computing.[2] Additionally, a number of sites are blocked according to two lists maintained by the Internet Services Unit (ISU)[3]: one containing "immoral" (mostly pornographic) sites, the other based on directions from a security committee run by the Ministry of Interior (including sites critical of the Saudi government).

An interesting feature of this system is that citizens are encouraged to actively report "immoral" sites for blocking.

According to a study carried out in 2004 by the OpenNet Initiative: The most aggressive censorship focused on pornography, drug use, gambling, religious conversion of Muslims, and filtering circumvention tools.

In 2011, the Saudi government introduced new Internet rules and regulations that require all online newspapers and bloggers to obtain a special license from the Ministry of Culture and Information
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Saudi_Arabia

Dubai Internet City Connectivity
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While Dubai Internet City sells itself as a business-friendly environment with excellent low cost connectivity, the reality is one of a heavily censored internet with prices that are 5-10 times the price of connectivity in Europe or the USA. In addition to webpage censorship, it is speculated that a variety of popular social networking services are blocked.

The UAE proxy can be bypassed by various methods including by setting up a VPN to connect securely to a server in another country to reduce the amount of Internet censorship, with the advantage that UAE authorities cannot 'snoop' on the traffic.
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I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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Tried google DNS yet?

8.8.8.8
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Tried google DNS yet?

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Tried google and opendns long before your mum was born... They IP blocked the web sites, the only way out is to vote Pakatan and see if they disable the blocking system. If not vote Anonoz Alliance to let us unlock Internet for you!
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I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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Must be blocking by IP addresses now.
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I am putting together a list of web proxy that will still access thepiratebay.org in Malaysia.

Changing to public DNS does not work for me sad.gif

www.piratebaymalaysia.com
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what is ur isp , TMnet? cry.gif
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what is ur isp , TMnet? cry.gif
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They won't be the cheapest, widest, biggest and most generous if it was not, right?
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just tried and can access Piratebay already without proxy ... using Unifi.
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GUYS... same as Sting Ray, I used only OpenDNS alsy can access Prate Bay!

Long live the pirate!
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Some reason TPB is back on. I guess flip-flopping at its best.
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since warez-BB is a forum they also block..i think they will block lowyat.net in the future   rolleyes.gif
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Lowyat.net they won't block cause they got "interests" inside. It's local founded, hosted locally and still surviving till today.

In Malaysia not easy to survive unless you have connections. Think of Dato Fernandez and many others.

Moreso Lowyat.net fucntions as a microphone to hear the voice of the rakyat and to monitor what's the hot topic among Malaysians.

That's the sole main purpose of a "online public discussion forum".

Logic:

A writes: This person is not doing his job.He's useless. His weakness is etc. etc.
B reply posts: Agree agree
C writes: He should have done so and here's the good way to avoid....

G reads all of them: Ah, I see what you did there. So this is what people are talking bout me. Next time I'll keep them in my list smile.gif hehehehe..

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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 11 2011, 06:58 PM)
Lowyat.net they won't block cause they got "interests" inside. It's local founded, hosted locally and still surviving till today.

In Malaysia not easy to survive unless you have connections. Think of Dato Fernandez and many others.

Moreso Lowyat.net fucntions as a microphone to hear the voice of the rakyat and to monitor what's the hot topic among Malaysians.

That's the sole main purpose of a "online public discussion forum".

Logic:

A writes: This person is not doing his job.He's useless. His weakness is etc. etc.
B reply posts: Agree agree
C writes: He should have done so and here's the good way to avoid....

G reads all of them: Ah, I see what you did there. So this is what people are talking bout me. Next time I'll keep them in my list smile.gif hehehehe..
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They better just block youtube, facebook and all video streaming websites as well.

Since they are promoting piracy and eating up a lot of bandwidth as well.

Go ahead, block them. I bet nobody would say anything because we are too lansi, carefree and afraid of cronies and BN najis.

Young people are protesting but young people are only 20% of the populace, most of them are too young to even vote, the older generations dont really care, they just wanna stay home and watch ASTRO.

HOORAY, malaysia BOLEH!


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Megavideo = Blocked
Megaupload = Blocked
Megaporn = Alive shakehead.gif


Malaysia Boleh rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 11 2011, 06:58 PM)
Lowyat.net they won't block cause they got "interests" inside. It's local founded, hosted locally and still surviving till today.

In Malaysia not easy to survive unless you have connections. Think of Dato Fernandez and many others.

Moreso Lowyat.net fucntions as a microphone to hear the voice of the rakyat and to monitor what's the hot topic among Malaysians.

That's the sole main purpose of a "online public discussion forum".

Logic:

A writes: This person is not doing his job.He's useless. His weakness is etc. etc.
B reply posts: Agree agree
C writes: He should have done so and here's the good way to avoid....

G reads all of them: Ah, I see what you did there. So this is what people are talking bout me. Next time I'll keep them in my list smile.gif hehehehe..
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Lowyat won't be blocked but they can be censored and monitored. When you post something like "BN is full of hot air" they may immediately block that thread under direction of MCMC. Or they could simply spam the whole forum with stupid slogans and greeting cards from PM.

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megaupload is warez site meh??? zzzzzz piratebay still ok even with no vpn
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megaupload is warez site meh??? zzzzzz piratebay still ok even with no vpn
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This afternoon TPB was suspiciously down after the radio announcement. Some reason, it was back on again. I guess some staff forgot to download porns before completely blocking it, lol.
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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 07:38 PM)
This afternoon TPB was suspiciously down after the radio announcement. Some reason, it was back on again. I guess some staff forgot to download porns before completely blocking it, lol.
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They want to follow Korean on blocking P2P but making good car don't want to follow.
Not everyone can afford original Everything also increase now and now have to buy original software movies sad.gif cry.gif

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They want to follow Korean on blocking P2P but making good car don't want to follow.
Not everyone can afford original Everything also increase now and now have to buy original software movies  sad.gif  cry.gif
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Or affordable HSBB (or real HSBB)
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Hmm perhaps we should update the status of the 10 censored sites based on reach-ability...

TPB, MU, FS, and Warezbb is still accessible for now... on my side at least...
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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 07:35 PM)
Lowyat won't be blocked but they can be censored and monitored. When you post something like "BN is full of hot air" they may immediately block that thread under direction of MCMC. Or they could simply spam the whole forum with stupid slogans and greeting cards from PM.
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If they simply spam the forum like what you said, it'll end their investment overnight and reveal their cloak. Your thoughts are shallow.

Who do you think does the full time monitoring?

Se7en is too busy himself.

There will be many who are reading into your rants..it could be the PDRM Cyber Crime Dept, SKMM Cyber Squad, 1 Malaysia Cyber Troopers. Who knows? Do you know yourself?

You get individual expressions on personal blogs but at forum you get collective expressions and thoughts.

It's not like what you said is not happening here. Just glance through the Kopitiam and Real World sections. There are plenty of them already to start with that once in a while bring up ridiculous topic of conversations.

It is through discussion forums that gamen comes to discover what the public has in mind and what they are up to.It functions as public PA system.

This is how they do it in countries like Iran, Saudi Arabia and even China. When someone stumble upon something new, he reports it in the public discussion forum and the next thing you now the Gamen comes to know.

Even in Thailand, they have this cybertroops who go round reading the net and report blogs/forums posting threads insulting their King.


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Megavideo = Blocked
Megaupload = Blocked
Megaporn = Alive    shakehead.gif
Malaysia Boleh rclxms.gif
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Oh hi there. You've just turned yourself into another self voluntary informant on the net advising people what was left out.

Here's another example of what discussion forums are for.

It's a good place to discover people's thoughts.

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If they simply spam the forum like what you said, it'll end their investment overnight and reveal their cloak. Your thoughts are shallow.

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Dude.....it's just a sarcasm/joke, chill....

Then again, would you have thought our dear PM wasting precious taxpayers' money on useless sms greetings? In Malaysia, everything is boleh one and who's to say he won't do the same in lowyat "LOL".

And when I mentioned monitored, I meant monitored by BN cybertroopers/supporters lah. Geez, do I need to spell everything out?

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Megaupload = Blocked
Megaporn = Alive    shakehead.gif
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SKMM need their porn.
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Oh hi there. You've just turned yourself into another self voluntary informant on the net advising people what was left out.

Here's another example of what discussion forums are for.

It's a good place to discover people's thoughts.
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QUOTE(MinusGear @ Jun 11 2011, 11:25 PM)
Dude.....it's just a sarcasm/joke, chill....

Then again, would you have thought our dear PM wasting precious taxpayers' money on useless sms greetings? In Malaysia, everything is boleh one and who's to say he won't do the same in lowyat "LOL".

And when I mentioned monitored, I meant monitored by BN cybertroopers/supporters lah. Geez, do I need to spell everything out?
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I've seen this coming a mile away. We all did.

What irks me is that some of these sites aren't entirely hosting copyrighted materials; I also use the listed file hosting sites to download computer mods, free-license utilities and compilation artworks from 4chan, Pixiv and deviantART. And what about obscure movies and music you'll have a hard time finding on legal music stores?

The gomen's free trade agreement with the Americans, coupled by pressure by the RIAA and MPAA and the crummy local entertainment industry, have all pressured them into imposing such blocks. The gomen wouldn't had been as bothered about it if the Yanks hadn't knocked on their door promising riches if we open our trade routes and curb piracy, but then again, it also gives our gomen the push they need to set into motion plans for covert Internet censorship. And Najib and Rais had the balls to tell us censorship of the Internets is something they won't allow; nice job contradicting yourselves.

Issue a complaint to the MCMC. And if you are 21 years old or older, give them a piece of your mind through the ballot box.

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well its quite funny that they accuse the site are used for illegal download movies and music.

megaupload does not tolerate illegal files download...if they found it surely it will delete,it just matter of time.

how goddamn dumb its that MCMC....

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And Najib and Rais had the balls to tell us censorship of the Internets is something they won't allow; nice job contradicting yourselves.
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Quoted for the truth.

Can we also link https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&c...ql=&oq=&prmdo=1
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so conclusion...they both lie to us....so you guys still going to sit there do nothing? hmm.gif or next election you guys gonna take action brows.gif
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Piratebay no big issue. Use any online proxy can enter already

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Piratebay no big issue. Use any online proxy can enter already

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Or just use free VPN and get the torrent file then log out. You only need to download the kb sized file to get it to work anyway. Piratebay is just a search engine for torrents.
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There is also magnet file intorduce by TPB in case goverment of the world decide to block TPB. This ensures that TPB will never die. Other torrent sites have also follow in their suites.
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QUOTE(Parrot @ Jun 12 2011, 12:41 AM)

The gomen's free trade agreement with the Americans, coupled by pressure by the RIAA and MPAA and the crummy local entertainment industry, have all pressured them into imposing such blocks. The gomen wouldn't had been as bothered about it if the Yanks hadn't knocked on their door promising riches if we open our trade routes and curb piracy, but then again, it also gives our gomen the push they need to set into motion plans for covert Internet censorship.

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You know that could be a blatant lie because my friends down south, in Korea, Japan, UK, Europe and the States can easily access those sites without any issues.

So if they have not restricted their those sites themselves why did they pressured you instead?

It's like saying look that pile of chocolate on the floor looks tasty and it's a waste to leave it there lying. Why don't you have a taste of it. We already had our lunch so go ahead try it yourself and you really went and tasted it? :doh:
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QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 12 2011, 12:50 AM)
You know that could be a blatant lie because my friends down south, in Korea, Japan, UK, Europe and the States can easily access those sites without any issues.

So if they have not restricted their those sites themselves why did they pressured you instead?
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The sentiments of special interest groups do not reflect the censorship policies of governments of countries they come from. Besides, they simply call for a curb of piracy in the country, but they never specified how and probably wouldn't care what the repercussions are anyway so long the move benefits them.

QUOTE(iipohbee @ Jun 12 2011, 12:50 AM)
It's like saying look that pile of chocolate on the floor looks tasty and it's a waste to leave it there lying. Why don't you have a taste of it. We already had our lunch so go ahead try it yourself and you really went and tasted it? :doh:
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Well, the gomen did offer the Aussies land for that rare earth processing facility, as well as the opportunity to dump their asylum seekers here. They've shown to be more or less willing to stoop pretty low in international dealings.

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Are the websites actually blocked? I still have no trouble accessing them so far.
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QUOTE(Parrot @ Jun 12 2011, 01:41 AM)
The gomen's free trade agreement with the Americans, coupled by pressure by the RIAA and MPAA and the crummy local entertainment industry, have all pressured them into imposing such blocks. The gomen wouldn't had been as bothered about it if the Yanks hadn't knocked on their door promising riches if we open our trade routes and curb piracy, but then again, it also gives our gomen the push they need to set into motion plans for covert Internet censorship. And Najib and Rais had the balls to tell us censorship of the Internets is something they won't allow; nice job contradicting yourselves.
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Correct me if I am wrong but since when the FTA, RIAA and MPAA has anything to do with what happens outside their jurisdiction?
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Correct me if I am wrong but since when the FTA, RIAA and MPAA has anything to do with what happens outside their jurisdiction?
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Because the members of RIAA & MPAA sell their products here in Malaysia.
So they pressure their government in their FTA with Malaysia.
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Because the members of RIAA & MPAA sell their products here in Malaysia.
So they pressure their government in their FTA with Malaysia.
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Irony.... since the sales of pirated CDs & DVDs been going strong in Malaysia since... forever

Kata peribasa:

"Kuman diseberang laut nampak, bangkai gajah depan mata tak nampak"

Stupidity beyond comparison sad.gif
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Because the members of RIAA & MPAA sell their products here in Malaysia.
So they pressure their government in their FTA with Malaysia.
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To my knowledge, FTA between Malaysia and the States are not yet implemented. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malaysia%E2%8...Trade_Agreement

QUOTE(slepth @ Jun 12 2011, 04:43 PM)
Irony.... since the sales of pirated CDs & DVDs been going strong in Malaysia since... forever

Kata peribasa:

"Kuman diseberang laut nampak, bangkai gajah depan mata tak nampak"

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use tor browser , all problem solved. unless disconnected from undersea telecommunications cable.
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use tor browser , all problem solved. unless disconnected from undersea telecommunications cable.
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The speed will depend on the peers right ?
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I wont be surprised if they will be using this as a reason to increase broadband pricing in near future.
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I wont be surprised if they will be using this as a reason to increase broadband pricing in near future.
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I think should be decrease since we all cannot download in heavy..
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I wont be surprised if they will be using this as a reason to increase broadband pricing in near future.
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already happened at USA, but not success because i guess is information right. just for torrent user can buy a different package for downloading with an affordable price.


Added on June 12, 2011, 6:15 pmi guess is 500GB limit

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QUOTE(island @ Jun 12 2011, 06:13 PM)
already happened at USA, but not success because i guess is information right. just for torrent user can buy a different package for downloading with an affordable price.


Added on June 12, 2011, 6:15 pmi guess is 500GB limit
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A package for downloading a pirate stuff ?
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video streaming , downloading lah... USA can watch streaming HD video


Added on June 12, 2011, 6:21 pmother country now is busy upgrade to ipv6, tmnut remain stupid


Added on June 12, 2011, 6:23 pmat malaysia watch youtube also jam like hell

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QUOTE(island @ Jun 12 2011, 06:20 PM)
video streaming , downloading lah... USA can watch streaming HD video


Added on June 12, 2011, 6:21 pmother country now is busy upgrade to ipv6, tmnut remain stupid
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I knew that but u said torrent user ?
We use internet for video streaming, etc so why they still want increase the pricing ?

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you just google it lah.. it just like a freeway for regular user, and other one for downloading user like torrent..
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you just google it lah.. it just like a freeway for regular user, and other one for downloading user like torrent..
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so conclusion...they both lie to us....so you guys still going to sit there do nothing?  hmm.gif or next election you guys gonna take action  brows.gif
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I know who I'm gonna kick out with my vote! Hope you guys are all registered voters. Your votes will make a difference.
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It may not make any goddamn difference at all, you see if our gov let US know we allow piracy to rock n roll, they might launch an embargo on us like what they did to sweden to force their gov launch a raid on PirateBay
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I know who I'm gonna kick out with my vote! Hope you guys are all registered voters. Your votes will make a difference.
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The question is not about who you put into power ? What assurance can the other party give to us , that this cycle will not be repeated.
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so far im still can access all links, saya rasa ini hanyalah propaganda Govt menakutnakutkan pengguna...
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The question is not about who you put into power ? What assurance can the other party give to us , that this cycle will not be repeated.
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I agree with this. It`s not only about that. I didnt recall coming into cross this issue in their manifesto either. sad.gif
They did only say something about press freedom and not about internet content freedom. sweat.gif

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The question is not about who you put into power ? What assurance can the other party give to us , that this cycle will not be repeated.
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true. during electricity price hike opposition has chair in the parliament
why didn't they object ?? isn't it the opposition job to object whatever the people disagree
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Is it true? shocking.gif
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Simply said, they're taking the easy way out on heavy usage. We all know the heaviest usage is on piracy stuff and since it IS illegal, they're taking that as an advantage. If the Govt really are serious about piracy, the why te hell are those sellers in pasar malam still everywhere? Even shops in Mines has been there for years and no one seems to bother themselves with it.

IMHO still, unlimited usage is a BIG NO. It brings many bad things. The day TMNet brought it up to gain customers is the day the sign up with the devil. And now they're having a hard time dealing with it.

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Fileserve seems to be throttled. Have a premium account and it only DLs at 70kbs.
Meanwhile using Filesonic I can max my DL at 400kbs.
Fark lar, FS I still have 3 months left.
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mite as well ban astro la... ppl rip from astrofirst & upload it online... can u actually believe that? freaking cheapskates trololol
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jun 12 2011, 02:07 AM)
so conclusion...they both lie to us....so you guys still going to sit there do nothing?  hmm.gif or next election you guys gonna take action  brows.gif
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QUOTE(prasys @ Jun 12 2011, 08:03 PM)
The question is not about who you put into power ? What assurance can the other party give to us , that this cycle will not be repeated.
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THIS!

QUOTE(vivre @ Jun 12 2011, 08:21 PM)
I agree with this. It`s not only about that. I didnt recall coming into cross this issue in their manifesto either.  sad.gif
They did only say something about press freedom and not about internet content freedom.  sweat.gif
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anyone able to access http://www.duckload.com/?
i'm able to access all the rest except this..
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The best way to counter piracy was to offer more legal, legitimate or original online contents, like Netflix, Hulu, Vudu etc at the US. Blocking file hosting service like Fileserve, Megaupload etc simply because it hold non-legitimate contents post by it users is like banning storage media like hard drive, flash drive, memory card etc because users also can store non-legitimate contents in it.

I hope the SKMM would reconsider their counter measure on fighting piracy with a more open minded way. (but of course if the current matter have anything to do with piracy at all)

Thanks for reading.

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anyone able to access http://www.duckload.com/?
i'm able to access all the rest except this..
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it shut down already.
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it shut down already.
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ic.. thought it's been blocked or something..
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QUOTE(myandylai @ Jun 12 2011, 10:50 PM)
The best way to counter piracy was to offer more legal, legitimate or original online contents, like Netflix, Hulu, Vudu etc at the US. Blocking file hosting service like Fileserve, Megaupload etc simply because it hold non-legitimate contents post by it users is like banning storage media like hard drive, flash drive, memory card etc because users also can store non-legitimate contents in it.

I hope the SKMM would reconsider their counter measure on fighting piracy with a more open minded way. (but of course if the current matter have anything to do with piracy at all)

Thanks for reading.
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hardly have anything to do with combating piracy. its just a step in internet censorship

If we allow them to do this unopposed, you can bet next they are going to block all pornographic website on morals ground. Hell they might even start blocking any website or blogs that oppose the government on grounds that it threatens the harmony of the country.

This is the very reason why many people in other country strongly oppose any government plans on having internet filter or other control over websites. Once you allow the government to take one step, they are not going to stop. The internet is something that no government should have any control over.

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only 10kb/s
WTF
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i don't mind piratebay as i understand it, but fileserve is my heaven find files(legally) as it is a place for forum to share
now its gone
FK lar

megaupload and depositfiles also block, really WTF!
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 12 2011, 11:44 PM)
hardly have anything to do with combating piracy. its just a step in internet censorship

If we allow them to do this unopposed, you can bet next they are going to block all pornographic website on morals ground. Hell they might even start blocking any website or blogs that oppose the government on grounds that it threatens the harmony of the country.

This is the very reason why many people in other country strongly oppose any government plans on having internet filter or other control over websites. Once you allow the government to take one step, they are not going to stop. The internet is something that no government should have any control over.
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Not block on moral ground but according to law as porn is illegal in Malaysia. After the Press act is changed this year, expect news websites like Malaysiakini and Malaysian insider to be considered illegal as well and then blocked.
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Disgusting move to filter our Internet. f*** you SKMM
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does ip address works? for example instead of thepiratebay.org we use

194.71.107.15

does it work? i'm baffled because i still can reach tpb at this moment, no vpn no proxy.
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 12 2011, 11:44 PM)
hardly have anything to do with combating piracy. its just a step in internet censorship

If we allow them to do this unopposed, you can bet next they are going to block all pornographic website on morals ground. Hell they might even start blocking any website or blogs that oppose the government on grounds that it threatens the harmony of the country.

This is the very reason why many people in other country strongly oppose any government plans on having internet filter or other control over websites. Once you allow the government to take one step, they are not going to stop. The internet is something that no government should have any control over.
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It is combating act of piracy not internet censorship. Read it. A censorship is done on something legal, this is done based on something illegal.

The problem is, is it the correct way of combating piracy? They're choosing the HARDEST way to combat piracy; through internet while physical piracy still runs rampat at most pasar malam, roadside and even shopping malls. In the end, its probably TMNet not happy most of it user are hogging all the bandwidth with pirated materials.
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QUOTE(jeffreyp @ Jun 12 2011, 11:55 PM)
i don't mind piratebay as i understand it, but fileserve is my heaven find files(legally) as it is a place for forum to share
now its gone
FK lar

megaupload and depositfiles also block, really WTF!
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Online users bypass block

PETALING JAYA: The online file-sharing community remains active despite the Government’s move to block 10 such websites to curb piracy.

Blogger and online marketing consultant David Wang said most users simply moved on to other websites offering the same facilities and services to download content.

“Users can also continue using the blocked websites by getting around it in a few simple steps,” he said.

Wang, who published a blog post titled “What is a DNS (Domain Name System) block and three ways to get around it” following the Govern­ment’s ban against the websites, said IT expertise was not necessary to gain access.

“Anyone who knows how to download free content from such websites will be able to do it,” he said.

A quick online search using the keywords “How to bypass DNS block” also showed many websites offering detailed explanations on the ways to get past it.

It was reported that the Government had declared war on file-sharing websites, with 10 of them blocked by the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) in a bid to combat piracy.

The websites were among the most visited sites by Malaysians to illegally download movies.

The MCMC had on May 30 written to all Internet Service Providers (ISPs) ordering the block.

The letter, which was leaked online, also stated that the websites were being blocked for breaching Section 41 of the Copyright Act, which deals with pirated content.

The MCMC had said that the websites would be blocked in stages.

Sanjeev Nair, a marketing executive at an IT firm here, said although users could access the blocked websites through various other methods, the block should not have been imposed in the first place.

He said it was a violation of the MSC Malaysia Bill of Guarantees which stated that the Government would not censor the Internet.

“It is the principle of the matter and the authorities should realise that the Internet is all about sharing,” he said.

A check yesterday showed that nine of the websites were still accessible.

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 01:38 AM)
It is combating act of piracy not internet censorship. Read it. A censorship is done on something legal, this is done based on something illegal.

The problem is, is it the correct way of combating piracy? They're choosing the HARDEST way to combat piracy; through internet while physical piracy still runs rampat at most pasar malam, roadside and even shopping malls. In the end, its probably TMNet not happy most of it user are hogging all the bandwidth with pirated materials.
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It is not an act against piracy. There is nothing illegal about filehosting sites. Get your facts right. All these sites are 100% against piracy files and they stand firm on their rules. They also provide convenient ways to remove the files if any organization wants the files removed.



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It is not an act against piracy. There is nothing illegal about filehosting sites. Get your facts right. All these sites are 100% against piracy files and they stand firm on their rules. They also provide convenient ways to remove the files if any organization wants the files removed.
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after downloading a movie within minutes (siok..., very the fast internet)in US, my friend got this email a few hours later...
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THIS... is what we call "act against piracy"

if he does it again, agents will be knocking his door, he will be fined/jailed or both.

but then, if malaysia is to enforce this... jail not enough... haih... laugh.gif
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Combating piracy? Lol. Whether this is combating piracy or not, blocking websites is THE WRONG way to do it. It is a stupid and ineffective way to combat piracy.

A lot of the websites aren't even piracy specific. They're online lockers for online storage.

The sad fact is that our government have been doing this for 3 - 4 years. I fear for the future as we move down this slippery slope of censorship. I really do.

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 01:38 AM)
It is combating act of piracy not internet censorship. Read it. A censorship is done on something legal, this is done based on something illegal.

The problem is, is it the correct way of combating piracy? They're choosing the HARDEST way to combat piracy; through internet while physical piracy still runs rampat at most pasar malam, roadside and even shopping malls. In the end, its probably TMNet not happy most of it user are hogging all the bandwidth with pirated materials.
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You really believe the government will stop there?


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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 13 2011, 12:03 PM)
Combating piracy? Lol. Whether this is combating piracy or not, blocking websites is THE WRONG way to do it. It is a stupid and ineffective way to combat piracy.

A lot of the websites aren't even piracy specific. They're online lockers for online storage.

The sad fact is that our government have been doing this for 3 - 4 years. I fear for the future as we move down this slippery slope of censorship. I really do.
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Ya transferring big files is a real problem unless use bittorrent which is throttled or file locker which is blocked which leaves us with nothing. Damn e-mail cannot send or hold or resume large uploads.

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QUOTE(automan5891 @ Jun 13 2011, 12:46 PM)
See lah youi all so big mouth. Now I also susah.
You really think tmnet don't know about it? Their engineers knows about it and they know its common knowledge. Any network engineer who doesn't know how DNS works needs to burn their certificate and kill themself.

TMnet knows, they know we know, they have their own reason why they choose to use this method.

We have to keep in mind that unless they cut off the internet entirely, there is no 100% method to block any website. There are many free VPN out there for browsing even if they really want to block something. They know its a waste of time and money. Maybe TMnet just wants to shut SKMM's mouth. SKMM cannot complain its ineffective because there is NO method that can be 100% effective.
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if i can remember, aussie users can bypass theri internet cescorship. i forgot which method. but then, if we're lazy, VPN is our choice.
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QUOTE(debbierowe @ Jun 13 2011, 10:38 AM)
after downloading a movie within minutes (siok..., very the fast internet)in US, my friend got this email a few hours later...
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if he does it again, agents will be knocking his door, he will be fined/jailed or both.

but then, if malaysia is to enforce this... jail not enough... haih... laugh.gif
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Your good friend went and used torrent to download that's the reason she/he violated the law.

In torrent sessions, your PC will be actively uploading the file at the same time it downloads into your hdd.

This should not be brought up and compared with file hosting solutions which you should not categorize as P2P at all.
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what if they also block ALL proxy site and VPN connection??
don't say it's impossible as TM has a very long list of proxy and with a few clicks, these site are forever banished in bolehland
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no big deal


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they want to block this and that, is it malaysia gonna follow china?
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they want to block this and that, is it malaysia gonna follow china?
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if you don't want malaysia to follow china, make sure you don't vote for bn in next election.
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doesn't matter we vote who, nothing much will be change since whatever party is having the same mindset

they block file sharing website, but not porn, which mean i still can stream

i only want them to block PPS and nothing else
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because of whatever right at USA, USA fail to take down porn website, torrent download and online file sharing.

Malaysia truly Boleh. if you know to ban other people website, others people also can ban your website..
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Iran, Saudi Arabia, Eqypt and UAE are deemed more ideal examples for them.
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i guess is all about business. when you cannot download from supernet. then you maybe goto watch at cinema or purchase a dvd.. so you guess what people open this kind of shop.. still have cable tv and satellite tv and the tonton video streaming .. all is business


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Added on June 13, 2011, 4:38 pmat singapore ori dvd is cheap and cinema ticket also cheap about $5


Added on June 13, 2011, 4:40 pmyoutube also content illegal video and sexy video, why not ban it too?

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jun 13 2011, 04:22 PM)
doesn't matter we vote who, nothing much will be change since whatever party is having the same mindset

they block file sharing website, but not porn, which mean i still can stream

i only want them to block PPS and nothing else
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we are already living in a (way way) below optimal internet country, I'd rather place my vote for new hope rather than voting the proven-to-be-rotten gomen.
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no matter who become government, nothing going to change. because the government staff remain the same. poor working quality remain poor.
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Added on June 13, 2011, 5:57 pmso many trouble. damn, just cut the undersea cable..

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QUOTE(LittleGhost @ Jun 13 2011, 10:28 AM)
It is not an act against piracy. There is nothing illegal about filehosting sites. Get your facts right. All these sites are 100% against piracy files and they stand firm on their rules. They also provide convenient ways to remove the files if any organization wants the files removed.
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ahh naive in denial. Let me explain a bit more on how this is an act against piracy.
Malaysians loves to pirate. They go to internet since they don't have to pay shit. They went into all those site to get them. They download them and be done with those site never to be entered unless they got something else to pirate.
You see, in their eyes and brains, they are supposedly trying to stop these acts of piracy. You may say whatever you want, you may justify how is that you are allowed to merompak, but the FACT is, they see how their bandwidth are being used, they see all these website being used to download nothing but pirated materials. So in their perspective they want to stop all this act of piracy since it is hogging up their bandwidth. Bandwidth running out but they're all used for illegal purposes? Which ISP on this planet going to allow it?

Now for my REAL point that you do not seem to get. Try to read this and understand it. I'll use an analogy for your easier understanding. Say a hardware store that sells machete. The store is very much legal. However the cops found out one day that criminals are always buying the machetes to commit a crime from this store. And so the police instead of looking around the ACTUAL criminal, they closed the shop. Why? Because it is EASY. They don't have to do any investigative work to find those criminals. All they need to do is stop the source where the tool of crime is obtained.

A very skewed solution to a problem isn't it? That is my point. Its an act against piracy, but a very stupid act. Not to mention an easy way out since they don't need to get their asses off their lovely seat and arrest those who sells them openly in pasar malam/shopping malls. Or maybe they do but turn a blind eye for some duit kopi?

As for your '100% against piracy'. MU sure I know. I've seen a lot of dead links myself. But ThePirateBay? Seriously you're digging their 100% against piracy? How many times do you think have they relocate to where the law can't touch them? You cannot believe what the government says but you believe a site filled with pirated materials they're against piracy? That is truly laughable. How about that website that has 'warez' in its name? That is like a marketplace for pirates.

Frankly, I'm hoping they get insanely serious with pirates. Get rid of those sellers, watch torrent website and bring those pirates to court. Ahh when the day comes I just sooo want to say padan muka to all those people.


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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 09:06 PM)

What does that have anything close to do with anything I've said?
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You believe its to combat piracy, the rest of us knows thats just a load of horse sh!t

Even a retard could understand that blocking website is not going to stop anything. This has internet control written all over it. The government is not going to just block those site, we all know that makes no difference. Its just a first step in internet censorship. There is nothing to stop them from eventually blocking pornographic website, political blogs and so on, because this gives the government to manipulate our access to the internet and this is wrong.

Maybe you are fine with that, maybe you think piracy is such an important issue, that corporate is more important than everyone else that we must lose our freedom, bent over backwards and let them do anything they wants, I can't change your opinion.

But for the rest of us, I think we still love our freedom. Internet should be left alone. No one has the rights to tell me what sites I can and cannot access.


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I think what exentric_nova said is true but he or she is in the wrong place of this world.

The root of piracy is hard to determine but it runs deep in Malaysia to an extend that it is quite hard to eradicate. You never know for sure who is in the right or who is in the wrong. Even the supposed "right" is not totally innocent.

Humans follow the easy way out, that is just how it is most of the time. What anyone is doing to stop piracy shall not succeed because like an old Chinese saying, if you tried to burn down a field of grass but left its root untouched, when spring comes it will grow back up again.

I have not met anyone in Malaysia that is "pure", have not done anything illegal yet and have been playing by the rules so far. Maybe exentric_nova is one.
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ahh naive in denial. Let me explain a bit more on how this is an act against piracy.
Malaysians loves to pirate. They go to internet since they don't have to pay shit. They went into all those site to get them. They download them and be done with those site never to be entered unless they got something else to pirate.
You see, in their eyes and brains, they are supposedly trying to stop these acts of piracy. You may say whatever you want, you may justify how is that you are allowed to merompak, but the FACT is, they see how their bandwidth are being used, they see all these website being used to download nothing but pirated materials. So in their perspective they want to stop all this act of piracy since it is hogging up their bandwidth. Bandwidth running out but they're all used for illegal purposes? Which ISP on this planet going to allow it?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum

facepalm.jpg. Sure, resort to calling others naive when you yourself cannot understand what is legal and what is not.

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Now for my REAL point that you do not seem to get. Try to read this and understand it. I'll use an analogy for your easier understanding. Say a hardware store that sells machete. The store is very much legal. However the cops found out one day that criminals are always buying the machetes to commit a crime from this store. And so the police instead of looking around the ACTUAL criminal, they closed the shop. Why? Because it is EASY. They don't have to do any investigative work to find those criminals. All they need to do is stop the source where the tool of crime is obtained.


This is complacency and it solves almost nothing but hinder progress of culture and humanity. Filehosting/cloud computing is a future technology, whether you like it or not. Plus your analog is absurd as well as you're comparing murdering to a situation where you can't even "define" piracy at the first place. Both do not have the same severity. They differ too much to even be a proper analogy. You want a real analogy? The internet promotes stupidity, why not ban it altogether? This is essentially your argument.

Lrn2analogy.

File hosting sites are just file hosting sites. They really are no different than server spaces you get from paying. Except this one is paid through advertising.



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A very skewed solution to a problem isn't it? That is my point. Its an act against piracy, but a very stupid act. Not to mention an easy way out since they don't need to get their asses off their lovely seat and arrest those who sells them openly in pasar malam/shopping malls. Or maybe they do but turn a blind eye for some duit kopi?


So are you pro censorship or pro freedom? Make up your mind.

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As for your '100% against piracy'. MU sure I know. I've seen a lot of dead links myself. But ThePirateBay? Seriously you're digging their 100% against piracy? How many times do you think have they relocate to where the law can't touch them? You cannot believe what the government says but you believe a site filled with pirated materials they're against piracy? That is truly laughable. How about that website that has 'warez' in its name? That is like a marketplace for pirates.


>implying filehosting = torrent site.

No. It's a different issue altogether. As a matter of fact, throttling international torrent connections to an absurd level is already a good enough counter which renders torrent locally almost obsolete. Personally speaking as an engineer, torrent is pretty damn useful for transferring large chunks of files. Censoring/throttling the protocol while ignoring the prospects of creative learning (we engineers download linux distros pretty often, patches and so) is damaging as a whole to the entire country.

Do you want to nitpick? Do you know that torrent sites only stores hashfiles and torrent files? It is COMPLETELY legal. It is that censoring is against the act of internet freedom. Know how to differentiate between illegal and legal before proceeding to moral judgement. Two wrongs do not make one right. I don't mind Pirate Bay being censored to be honest, there's a difference between sites that supports copyright organization (i.e. the filehosts we have today) and against (i.e. piratebay).

Also, you don't cripple technology just to get to pirates. This is just plain ignorant. My point is the technology itself is NOT illegal. There's a difference between censoring "warez sites" and censoring technology.

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Frankly, I'm hoping they get insanely serious with pirates. Get rid of those sellers, watch torrent website and bring those pirates to court. Ahh when the day comes I just sooo want to say padan muka to all those people.
What does that have anything close to do with anything I've said?
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Do it properly, not through censorship. Even the source of pirated wares (the US), does not do so.

EDIT: http://www.fileserve.com/dmca.php

Read this. They even have DMCA backing their asses. Google the rest yourself.

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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 10:06 PM)
ahh naive in denial. Let me explain a bit more on how this is an act against piracy.
Malaysians loves to pirate. They go to internet since they don't have to pay shit. They went into all those site to get them. They download them and be done with those site never to be entered unless they got something else to pirate.
You see, in their eyes and brains, they are supposedly trying to stop these acts of piracy. You may say whatever you want, you may justify how is that you are allowed to merompak, but the FACT is, they see how their bandwidth are being used, they see all these website being used to download nothing but pirated materials. So in their perspective they want to stop all this act of piracy since it is hogging up their bandwidth. Bandwidth running out but they're all used for illegal purposes? Which ISP on this planet going to allow it?

If they can see and monitor our usage, then they can give the name to the police and submit us to the law. Simple.

But the problem is, the ISP cannot monitor the usage. It's a waste of time, resource and a beach of privacy. It is a common practice everywhere in the world to not monitor their customers activity. US tried to do it, under the influence if RIAA, but they did not succeed.

One of the thing that gives money to ISP is bandwidth, when they use more than they are supposed to, they can get possibly more profit by selling more profit. In turn they create more bandwidth. Malaysia to be doing this is a bad way of showing how n00b they ISP are. I mean at this level they are talking about not enough bandwidth? WTH

QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 10:06 PM)
Now for my REAL point that you do not seem to get. Try to read this and understand it. I'll use an analogy for your easier understanding. Say a hardware store that sells machete. The store is very much legal. However the cops found out one day that criminals are always buying the machetes to commit a crime from this store. And so the police instead of looking around the ACTUAL criminal, they closed the shop. Why? Because it is EASY. They don't have to do any investigative work to find those criminals. All they need to do is stop the source where the tool of crime is obtained.

And, they can buy other stuff to commit crime.

Like it or not, crime gets bigger when you suppress them. See Chicago Riot, when they ban the sell of alcohol. The effect is devastating. Now it is either their logic or our logic, and the consumers are the ones who has most power - that is if they exercise it.

QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 10:06 PM)
As for your '100% against piracy'. MU sure I know. I've seen a lot of dead links myself. But ThePirateBay? Seriously you're digging their 100% against piracy? How many times do you think have they relocate to where the law can't touch them? You cannot believe what the government says but you believe a site filled with pirated materials they're against piracy? That is truly laughable. How about that website that has 'warez' in its name? That is like a marketplace for pirates.

Frankly, I'm hoping they get insanely serious with pirates. Get rid of those sellers, watch torrent website and bring those pirates to court. Ahh when the day comes I just sooo want to say padan muka to all those people.
What does that have anything close to do with anything I've said?
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Let's look at the basic. Why people pirate? If the supplier can see and address these problems, piracy won't be much of a problem.

There is a reason for everything, some party decide not to see that reason because it is not profitable.
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QUOTE(konakona @ Jun 13 2011, 11:47 PM)
If they can see and monitor our usage, then they can give the name to the police and submit us to the law. Simple.

But the problem is, the ISP cannot monitor the usage. It's a waste of time, resource and a beach of privacy. It is a common practice everywhere in the world to not monitor their customers activity. US tried to do it, under the influence if RIAA, but they did not succeed.
Many believe that it's impossible for an isp to monitor everyone on the internet but they don't have to do it.

All they need is to monitor the blogs and public discussion forums for those smart alecks who talks like they know everything.When they stumble upon something they don't like to see, you're in their next target list.

Kudos for those who got under their radar.

That's why public discussion forums, social sites and blogs are dangerous traps that act as nets to catch silly fishes.
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PETALING JAYA: The 10 file-sharing sites ordered to be blocked are still accessible to web surfers.

A check yesterday evening showed that nine of the sites could be accessed and their services utilised while the remaining one, www.duckload.com, was down due to technical difficulties. But it was also not blocked.

The websites are supposedly among the most visited by Malaysians to illegally download movies.

It had been reported that the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) sent a letter on May 30 to all Internet service providers, ordering that the 10 sites be blocked.

The letter, among others, stated that the websites were being blocked for breaching Section 41 of the Copyright Act, which deals with pirated content.

When contacted, several ISPs were unable to comment on why the MCMC’s order had yet to be carried out.

They risk being penalised for not complying with the order.

Under Section 242 of the Commmunications and Multi­media Act, they can be fined RM100,000, jailed for not more than two years, or both.

A protest by local websurfers over the site-blocking has been growing on Twitter and Facebook. Their number came up to almost 12,000 over the past three days.

sos salah reporting

* p/s :the reporter is reporting her article with some misinformation and wrongly title. don't she know is the site is a file hosting and not a movie site. doh.gif
duckload is not down but the server was confiscated in raid in Europe with several people arrested laugh.gif .
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QUOTE(avex|mode @ Jun 13 2011, 11:10 PM)
What are they going to block next? FB and opposition blogs?
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considering people these days love to protest in facebook, i wouldn't be suprise one day they do block

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this is doh.gif she really doesnt know what she is writing. and yeah duckload admin got arresteed i heard, nothing to do with technical difficulties
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 14 2011, 08:03 AM)
Movie sites still accessible rclxub.gif

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* p/s :the reporter is reporting her article with some misinformation and wrongly title. don't she know is the site is a file hosting and not a movie site.  doh.gif
duckload is not down but the server was confiscated in raid in Europe with several people arrested laugh.gif .
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stupid reporter needs a lobotomy.

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meanwhile in US.......

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Sunday the New York Times claimed that the Obama administration is leading a global effort to launch a "shadow" Internet and mobile phone service for helping rebels face against governments intent on censoring or shutting down communications to the outside world.


http://www.tomsguide.com/us/shadow-interne...news-11499.html
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QUOTE(tech3910 @ Jun 14 2011, 12:12 PM)
meanwhile in US.......
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The American government is establishing an underground Internet and mobile phone service to keep free speech alive and kicking worldwide.
Sunday the New York Times claimed that the Obama administration is leading a global effort to launch a "shadow" Internet and mobile phone service for helping rebels face against governments intent on censoring or shutting down communications to the outside world.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/shadow-interne...news-11499.html
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imagine if Malaysia have this kind of service.. hmm.gif
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I heard that the Anonymous hackers are gonna hack Malaysia's Government Website bcoz of strict rules against the internet hmm.gif
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i'm just worried that if this order really went through, that will mean they could easily pass 100 more retarded bills like this in the future.

btw don't feed the troll ppl, he just want attention, don't give him biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(birain @ Jun 14 2011, 08:03 AM)
Movie sites still accessible rclxub.gif

By SUBASHINI SELVARATNAM
bytz@thestar.com.my


PETALING JAYA: The 10 file-sharing sites ordered to be blocked are still accessible to web surfers.

A check yesterday evening showed that nine of the sites could be accessed and their services utilised while the remaining one, www.duckload.com, was down due to technical difficulties. But it was also not blocked.

The websites are supposedly among the most visited by Malaysians to illegally download movies.

It had been reported that the Malaysian Communications and Multimedia Commission (MCMC) sent a letter on May 30 to all Internet service providers, ordering that the 10 sites be blocked.

The letter, among others, stated that the websites were being blocked for breaching Section 41 of the Copyright Act, which deals with pirated content.

When contacted, several ISPs were unable to comment on why the MCMC’s order had yet to be carried out.

They risk being penalised for not complying with the order.

Under Section 242 of the Commmunications and Multi­media Act, they can be fined RM100,000, jailed for not more than two years, or both.

A protest by local websurfers over the site-blocking has been growing on Twitter and Facebook. Their number came up to almost 12,000 over the past three days.

sos salah reporting

* p/s :the reporter is reporting her article with some misinformation and wrongly title. don't she know is the site is a file hosting and not a movie site.  doh.gif
duckload is not down but the server was confiscated in raid in Europe with several people arrested laugh.gif .
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What do you expect? These people including mcmc thinks those sites are movie downloads sites. Heck if i google for a movie download and get movie downloads result does it mean google is a pirate website too? This is what happens when stupid people are in charge.
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I heard that the Anonymous hackers are gonna hack Malaysia's Government Website bcoz of strict rules against the internet hmm.gif
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I also heard that on the radio. I hope they really hack the stupid MCMC website and teach them a lesson.
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Holy crap!!! For real?!! shocking.gif Really?

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they want to trap malaysia IT guy to get ready at that time, but in the end, kena attack on different day tongue.gif
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they want to trap malaysia IT guy to get ready at that time, but in the end, kena attack on different day tongue.gif
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Their act is like poking a tiger with a stick. Then more and more sites will be block. I rather they don't do it. At least now only a few.
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I like to see them block Facebook / Wikipedia, and the famous movie site searcher "Google".
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Block FB, more heat. More heat, more damage. More damage, more money lost. More money loss, many up people butt hurt.

Profit!
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Shit liao now really blocked!! Streamyx, UNIFI , TM koined the blockage
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Use DNS for the moment smile.gif

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how do i set DNS? can someone help me? biggrin.gif
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how do i set DNS? can someone help me? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 14 2011, 03:50 PM)
Their act is like poking a tiger with a stick. Then more and more sites will be block. I rather they don't do it. At least now only a few.
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What's the difference of sooner or later?

It's even more dangerous to challenge the public. It's like the tiger going against the dragon.
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What's the difference of sooner or later?

It's even more dangerous to challenge the public. It's like the tiger going against the dragon.
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QUOTE(speed393 @ Jun 14 2011, 07:10 PM)
Agreed. Bring them down. I support Anonymous. They are just getting more and more ridiculous day by day.
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About that Anonymous , what happens if its just a joke ? Woudnt it be disappointing ?

But on the other hand , what will really happen if they succeeded in hacking the government website ?
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QUOTE(cocooh @ Jun 14 2011, 06:50 PM)
tried but doesnt work...changed primary and secondary DNS but still cant load megaupload.

QUOTE(cocooh @ Jun 14 2011, 07:13 PM)
About that Anonymous , what happens if its just a joke ? Woudnt it be disappointing ?

But on the other hand , what will really happen if they succeeded in hacking the government website ?
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unfortunately...nothing will happen
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unfortunately...nothing will happen
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Reputation and trust is at stake here. If it really happens, the public will lose hope and trust against them for not handling things properly.
They gave the opportunity by making wrong moves to create dissatisfaction among people.
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I am very sorry to tell you but it just happened. Sabah tourism site has been hacked. More info here.
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fyi..sabah tourism is still up http://sabahtourism.com/sabah-malaysian-borneo/en/

why would they hack a tourism site? LOL
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tried but doesnt work...changed primary and secondary DNS but still cant load megaupload.
unfortunately...nothing will happen
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perhaps you didn't try hard enough.
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fyi..sabah tourism is still up http://sabahtourism.com/sabah-malaysian-borneo/en/

why would they hack a tourism site? LOL
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Hacking the database =/= defacing
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QUOTE(freak @ Jun 14 2011, 07:32 PM)
fyi..sabah tourism is still up http://sabahtourism.com/sabah-malaysian-borneo/en/

why would they hack a tourism site? LOL
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Hack doesn always mean change the whole website

They hacked the accounts info
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i do support anonymous... hopefully they do more damage... at least..
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fyi..sabah tourism is still up http://sabahtourism.com/sabah-malaysian-borneo/en/

why would they hack a tourism site? LOL
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election coming soon? u know who not to vote for..
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election coming soon? u know who not to vote for..
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Dont need to vote i guess ?

But why they block the website and no one from any of the parties come out and explain for it hmm.gif ?
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Son of b!tches started to block the sites already.

Anyone remember a small free browser proxy program last time? Where we run it and it will load up Internet Explorer that will function using a proxy or something. It was created for China or Iran people, but available free online.
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Just dont let the hacker hack JPN because just yesterday and today some fellow go take SPMU lol
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 14 2011, 07:00 PM)
Son of b!tches started to block the sites already.

Anyone remember a small free browser proxy program last time? Where we run it and it will load up Internet Explorer that will function using a proxy or something. It was created for China or Iran people, but available free online.
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Ultrasurf?
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QUOTE(rayfoo @ Jun 14 2011, 07:54 PM)
election coming soon? u know who not to vote for..
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We need the opposition to jump on the issue first.

So far we haven't heard anything, but I hope they will come out and voice against this. If they do, then all Malaysian will realize what is going on.

Right now, very few people realize what is going on. And the media has been sugar coating it, they never mention that this is an internet censorship. They are trying to make it look like a good thing. Sad


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Ultrasurf?
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Thank you bro notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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who knows today they block hosting file and pornography website and in the future they may block some website that have potential to become major threat to their politic.
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QUOTE(kaeyny @ Jun 14 2011, 08:06 PM)
who knows today they block hosting file and pornography website and in the future they may block some website that have potential to become major threat to their politic.
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such as facebook. beacause ppl these days always create gorup to protest
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QUOTE(kaeyny @ Jun 14 2011, 08:06 PM)
who knows today they block hosting file and pornography website and in the future they may block some website that have potential to become major threat to their politic.
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that's what i'm worried about. the consequence of blocking these dl sites itself is not serious, what's more serious is this means they can do whatever they want from now on since already got "first example" (in law). i'm guessing facebook and youtube would be the next. especially youtube since it takes up the most streaming bandwidth. TMnut cannot earn if we all watch youtube!
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such as facebook. beacause ppl these days always create gorup to protest
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isn't it kinda dejavu to rely on foreign people again?
not to point anything but i fear more dangerous if it happen by them then by us the people

What happen on that day,whatever it is
1 spark in air full of flameable gases the way i see it
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QUOTE(speed393 @ Jun 14 2011, 07:26 PM)
I am very sorry to tell you but it just happened. Sabah tourism site has been hacked. More info here.
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Its time to call ANON.

Time to get VENDETTA.




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Changed to multiple DNS,still doesn't work.Those websites really have been blocked off...
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its a sign that they are trying to be like China in withholding information from the public huh... wonder if the TM shares will be affected by these actions..... all give back their internet and subscribe to Maxis or the other broadband (forgot the name) iso TM...... LOL
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I still can access. Not using google dns. Maybe they only block for google dns?

For those who can't change DNS, try to change it in your router/modem.
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QUOTE(raisins @ Jun 14 2011, 08:37 PM)
its a sign that they are trying to be like China in withholding information from the public huh... wonder if the TM shares will be affected by these actions..... all give back their internet and subscribe to Maxis or the other broadband (forgot the name) iso TM...... LOL
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Not sure if this is discussed before. There are so many other ways to get around this. Even in China with their great firewall also can get around.

How:
1)VPN
2)IP Proxy

3)use other uploading websites? so many more in this world. mediafire, demonoid etc? Impossible to blacklist all. Even in china also impossible to blacklist all.
4)Use IRC, usenet. This one even more power than torrent. Most pirate groups before they even release on torrent, they release on irc or usenet first. It's harder to trace. In fact usenet is almost impossible to trace. Learn it. Live it.


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try lebanon country proxy... downloading THOR.. 400+kbps.... XD
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I'm using maxis broadband and trying to use DNS, however everytime i changed my DNS and reset my broadband my previous setting dissapears
anybody knows the answer to the prob??thank you in advance

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 14 2011, 08:50 PM)
I still can access. Not using google dns. Maybe they only block for google dns?

For those who can't change DNS, try to change it in your router/modem.
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You can access piratebay using TMNet dns?

I can't do that at the moment
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You can access piratebay using TMNet dns?

I can't do that at the moment
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I think Unifi has blocked megaupload.com....earlier today could access
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You can easily check which DNS servers have blocked the sites via nslookup :

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EDIT : If swapping the DNS is not working for you on a TM service (Streamyx/Unifi), it might just be due to DNS caching. Close your browser + make sure you're on OpenDNS/GoogleDNS + run 'ipconfig /flushdns'. Then try pinging one of the blocked sites and you should see the IP address for the domain next to the domain name. If DNS name resolution fails, try setting a static IP mapping in your C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc hosts file. Worst case scenario is they route blackhole the IP addresses for those websites, then you will need a HTTP/SOCKS/PHP proxy/SSH tunnel/VPN to reach them.

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Thanks for that nifty tool rivzanrp!

Looks like they're only doing DNS filtering for now..

Next step would be to properly IP block those addresses =(

Would they do that next i wonder..

EDIT: In case that happens, lets compile some proxy sites for safekeeping in case SHTF.... unless they block those too lol...

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QUOTE(solarmystic @ Jun 14 2011, 09:24 PM)
Thanks for that nifty tool rivzanrp!

Looks like they're only doing DNS filtering for now..

Next step would be to properly IP block those addresses =(

Would they do that next i wonder..

EDIT: In case that happens, lets compile some proxy sites for safekeeping in case SHTF.... unless they block those too lol...
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They have the firewalls in place to do HTTP header filtering on the Streamyx network (as we saw with the HTTP throttling last year). I think if they go full retard, we'll just compile a thread with every bypass method for each ISP + keep it updated smile.gif
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QUOTE(rizvanrp @ Jun 14 2011, 09:15 PM)
You can easily check which DNS servers have blocked the sites via nslookup :

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EDIT : If swapping the DNS is not working for you on a TM service (Streamyx/Unifi), it might just be due to DNS caching. Close your browser + make sure you're on OpenDNS/GoogleDNS + run 'ipconfig /flushdns'. Then try pinging one of the blocked sites and you should see the IP address for the domain next to the domain name. If DNS name resolution fails, try setting a static IP mapping in your C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc hosts file. Worst case scenario is they route blackhole the IP addresses for those websites, then you will need a HTTP/SOCKS/PHP proxy/SSH tunnel/VPN to reach them.
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Wow, so easy yet not many knows this. Are you a network engineer? smile.gif


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They have the firewalls in place to do HTTP header filtering on the Streamyx network (as we saw with the HTTP throttling last year). I think if they go full retard, we'll just compile a thread with every bypass method for each ISP + keep it updated smile.gif
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The Cybertrooper of tmnut and BN will see this and report back to their respective retard masters. sad.gif

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is megaupload and fileserver blocked??i cannot access anymore...
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Refer to post above it is .. BLOCKED. The temporary solution is using google DNS blush.gif
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how do u set the DNS with google DNS 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4? any guide pls..
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https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/windows-7
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Nice all 10 sites now can't open anymore with 4 Mbps packages ip range 175


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https://store.opendns.com/setup/operatingsystem/windows-7

i follow the guide and set the google DNS ....but is still the same...any help?
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Change it in your router/modem. Restart the modem/router.
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Nice all 10 sites now can't open anymore with 4 Mbps packages ip range 175
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Are you sure my man?

Those sites are still online for me.. and i've got a 175.145.xxx.xxx address too....


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Have high speed internet but cannot download from favorite hosting site T_T. Today is the starting of fakap day . . . for people who understand chinese go watch ppstream. others go watch youtube surf facebook comment at lowyat.
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thx!!!it work now....hope this method work permanent!!
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thx!!!it work now....hope this method work permanent!!
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No way. I am sure when lots of people change DNS, they will think about something else. So this is temporary until they come up with something new and this method no longer works. When they do, there are only 3 ways left :

a) Proxy
b) Tor
c) Use VPN
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I'm using maxis broadband and trying to use DNS, however everytime i changed my DNS and reset my broadband
my previous setting dissapears
anybody knows the answer to the prob??thank you in advance
in DIRE need of HELP!!!!

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I tried to upload picture on imgur and I get this.Don't know which other website kena this also
"We're really sorry, but anonymous uploading in your country has been disabled. Please register for an account and try uploading again."

haha . . bish.
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post Jun 14 2011, 11:27 PM

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this is bullshit.... totally bullshit.... tut tut tut...

they cannot block any web.... this is not comply with msc act right???


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QUOTE(Zi-Tech @ Jun 14 2011, 11:27 PM)
this is bullshit.... totally bullshit.... tut tut tut...

they cannot block any web.... this is not comply with msc act right???
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Sadly no one is questioning MCMC move here.

The Star newspaper can even check those website and tries to contact the ISP to ask why they can still access the website.

Our country's media have their head so high up their a$$ they are probably seeing out of their throat. How can the media even support MCMC on this matter? Its a classic example of media access censorship.


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ultrasurf+plugin..solve my problem...but really,this is SUCK!
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They are setting the precedent to block websites follow by excuse to censor internet for their political agenda
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even MCMC publish pirated content in their website! its funny!! bagai ketam ajar anak berjalan. i am really pist off with government? how can government block website as they wish? i will sue government if they block my web site. i think Malaysian government need SEO lawyer to consult before blocking such sites. imagine the webmaster waste a lot of time to optimize their sites and end of the day is being block because of users fault for uploading pirated content. anyway,
visit my site
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i am teaching to unblock file sharing sites in 30 seconds without any software.
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QUOTE(navalstone @ Jun 15 2011, 12:27 AM)
even MCMC publish pirated content in their website! its funny!! bagai ketam ajar anak berjalan. i am really pist off with government? how can government block website as they wish?  i will sue government if they block my web site. i think Malaysian government need SEO lawyer to consult before blocking such sites. imagine the webmaster waste a lot of time to optimize their sites and end of the day is being block because of users fault for uploading pirated content. anyway,
visit my site
http://www.navalstone.com/pirated-content/...esharing-sites/
i am teaching to unblock file sharing sites in 30 seconds without any software.
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im using maxis broadband (bb) ,tried dns method,but everytime i reset,the dns goes back to the original
i think because maxis bb connects directly to its dns?is it?

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My router refuses to change DNS too so I changed it in Win instead. Not sure if it works but it worked for me.
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QUOTE(heavendevil @ Jun 15 2011, 12:38 AM)
My router refuses to change DNS too so I changed it in Win instead. Not sure if it works but it worked for me.
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You can easily check which DNS servers have blocked the sites via nslookup :



EDIT : If swapping the DNS is not working for you on a TM service (Streamyx/Unifi), it might just be due to DNS caching. Close your browser + make sure you're on OpenDNS/GoogleDNS + run 'ipconfig /flushdns'. Then try pinging one of the blocked sites and you should see the IP address for the domain next to the domain name. If DNS name resolution fails, try setting a static IP mapping in your C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc hosts file. Worst case scenario is they route blackhole the IP addresses for those websites, then you will need a HTTP/SOCKS/PHP proxy/SSH tunnel/VPN to reach them.


thanks bro, YOU'RE THE MAN!
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Solution:

For browsing try:
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Solution:

For browsing try:
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http://getaccess.cz.cc


For fast download:
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http://rapidfriend.cz.cc

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win??what's win??
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Some people just prefer shortforms way too much.
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the should block the porn website instead of that websites...
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lucky my company using proxy.....
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celcom broadband already blocked warez-bb.
openDNS also cannot help sad.gif

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the should block the porn website instead of that websites...
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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Jun 14 2011, 10:04 PM)
No way. I am sure when lots of people change DNS, they will think about something else. So this is temporary until they come up with something new and this method no longer works. When they do, there are only 3 ways left :

a) Proxy
b) Tor
c) Use VPN
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TOR is an Onion.. I kid you not.
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VPN business will be good.
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Added on June 15, 2011, 11:40 amKeep on complaining to SKMM. Their Aduan Form disable already!

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QUOTE(ayiesz @ Jun 15 2011, 07:47 AM)
celcom broadband already blocked warez-bb.
openDNS also cannot help sad.gif
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Very sad. My primary school educated uncle can't download again his porn movies... I only taught him to download from those banned website...


Added on June 15, 2011, 11:47 am
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Is it true? shocking.gif
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Soon Lowyatt forum will be banned too...

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Do yall think VPN will be block later on ?
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QUOTE(masashi89 @ Jun 15 2011, 07:02 AM)
the should block the porn website instead of that websites...
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Bro, you should see a psychiatrist laugh.gif


QUOTE(lwk523 @ Jun 15 2011, 12:06 PM)
Do yall think VPN will be block later on ?
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Many companies use VPN for many things from allowing workers to work from home, to multi-national companies connection to their own network across the world. We can't just black all VPN

If they block specific ones, the provider just need to change the IP address or something.

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Liked the facebook page.

They are daft. Piracy is not the problem. Piracy is the outcome of the problem that is the things we want cannot be obtained through legal channels.

If they block VPN, hell will break loose. My company uses VPN to connect to the HQ in Switzerland. Block? Company leaves, gomen rugi. End of story.

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What does our " BELOVED " PM tell us before " We will not filter the internet to maintain freedom of speech " and now he slap his face with his HAND shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jun 15 2011, 12:08 PM)
Liked the facebook page.

They are daft. Piracy is not the problem. Piracy is the outcome of the problem that is the things we want cannot be obtained through legal channels.

If they block VPN, hell will break loose. My company uses VPN to connect to the HQ in Switzerland. Block? Company leaves, gomen rugi. End of story.
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In the nutshell, We still can download a pirate movie with VPN without gov/ISP monitor .. thumbup.gif
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Yah, that's not my point. My point is if you want to stop piracy, blocking is not the correct answer. Making the item available legally is.
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Yah, that's not my point. My point is if you want to stop piracy, blocking is not the correct answer. Making the item available legally is.
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No. The correct way is to educate Malaysian to stop piracy and many campaigns can be launched.
In such way, taxpayer's money or your service charge got 1 more hole to run.
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QUOTE(sychern @ Jun 15 2011, 01:21 PM)
No. The correct way is to educate Malaysian to  stop piracy and many campaigns can be launched.
In such way, taxpayer's money or your service charge got 1 more hole to run.
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You're right also. both ways are correct.

Make the item legally available and educate why piracy is wrong at the same time. Educated ppl will sure choose legal.
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good intention but bad way of doing it..so sad
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QUOTE(RAMChYLD @ Jun 15 2011, 02:19 PM)
You're right also. both ways are correct.

Make the item legally available and educate why piracy is wrong at the same time. Educated ppl will sure choose legal.
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No. U are wrong. What I mean is those corrupters got 1 more way to corrupt our money.

Pls someone PM me working free VPN.

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Can i use the google dns method to still downloads from those sites?

p.s: im using JDownloader

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Can anyone tell me which VPN client is reliable? Thanks.
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Can anyone tell me which VPN client is reliable? Thanks.
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you can use bolehvpn or expertyvpn.

i'm currently using expertyvpn (netherlands server) to download. the seller recommends netherlands server to download stuffs at the price of rm 13++/month
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ExpertyVPN or LinVPN, both very cheap price compared to the bigger VPN, and they work just fine.

I've personally tested both, they work just fine even for P2P smile.gif
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This sudden blocking is making me sick.

What happened to the promise made that the internet would never be censored?

LIARS. Look, I'm not one to believe anything, but come on!

Here I am, doing my research for a paper I have to present, and some of the notes are on some of the sites, in PDF.

And guess what I CAN'T download them. (well, if you must know, ofcourse I did the whole DNS thing, but still, very inconvenient).

And they wonder why the majority of votes are slipping away. Morons. I'm using it to freakin' STUDY.

While you're at it take the away the internet altogether. Send us back to the ice age.

I wonder what would happen if those Anonymous dudes actually manage to do the hacking.

Now, excuse me while I continue cursing on every site I can find.
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jun 15 2011, 10:30 PM)
This sudden blocking is making me sick.

What happened to the promise made that  the internet would never be censored?

LIARS. Look, I'm not one to believe anything, but come on!

Here I am, doing my research for a paper I have to present, and some of the notes are on some of the sites, in PDF.

And guess what I CAN'T download them.  (well, if you must know, ofcourse I did the whole DNS thing, but still, very inconvenient).

And they wonder why the majority of votes are slipping away. Morons. I'm using it to freakin' STUDY.

While you're at it take the away the internet altogether. Send us back to the ice age.

I wonder what would happen if those Anonymous dudes actually manage to do the hacking.

Now, excuse me while I continue cursing on every site I can find.
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my torrent speed getting better out of sudden. Any reason?
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jun 15 2011, 10:30 PM)
This sudden blocking is making me sick.

What happened to the promise made that  the internet would never be censored?

LIARS. Look, I'm not one to believe anything, but come on!

Here I am, doing my research for a paper I have to present, and some of the notes are on some of the sites, in PDF.

And guess what I CAN'T download them.  (well, if you must know, ofcourse I did the whole DNS thing, but still, very inconvenient).

And they wonder why the majority of votes are slipping away. Morons. I'm using it to freakin' STUDY.

While you're at it take the away the internet altogether. Send us back to the ice age.

I wonder what would happen if those Anonymous dudes actually manage to do the hacking.

Now, excuse me while I continue cursing on every site I can find.
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yeah i agree, especially students, we don't have money to buy paper for our lecture notes...we got 'em from the lecturers via internet...in my case, the notes are long and full of pictures with high definition so that we can clearly...therefore, it exceed the 25MB limit that std email have...my mates and I rely heavily on the file sharing website
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jun 15 2011, 10:30 PM)
This sudden blocking is making me sick.

What happened to the promise made that  the internet would never be censored?

LIARS. Look, I'm not one to believe anything, but come on!

Here I am, doing my research for a paper I have to present, and some of the notes are on some of the sites, in PDF.

And guess what I CAN'T download them.  (well, if you must know, ofcourse I did the whole DNS thing, but still, very inconvenient).

And they wonder why the majority of votes are slipping away. Morons. I'm using it to freakin' STUDY.

While you're at it take the away the internet altogether. Send us back to the ice age.

I wonder what would happen if those Anonymous dudes actually manage to do the hacking.

Now, excuse me while I continue cursing on every site I can find.
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Someone needs to seriously question the government about this. Instead, the press has been licking the government's a$s. They don't bother to contact Najib and ask him whats with that empty promise he so heroic made about the gov don't censorship internet. The sites they block are all legal site, and this is also another point no one is asking the government or MCMC.

Unfortunately none of the media is pressuring the government. Useless bunch of press.
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WTF!

Since this crap, downloading slow like f**k.

Ping piked at 500; normally 250.

Screw you Streamyx.

Idiots.

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A few days ago i still can access megaupload, fileserve etc, but download speed slow like hell, 2day completely blocked. And this is my reaction to BN and its cronies. U SOBs made our life more miserable.
http://i.imgur.com/GGdo4.gif

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QUOTE((happy.gif) @ Jun 16 2011, 12:02 AM)
do you guys Blaming bn.. what if Pkr does the same thing biggrin.gif you know who...
said about The non-corruption goverment care about the citizen.. and then...
The result will be the same thing... keeping this thing blocked... haiz.. if the PR willingly to upgrade malaysian internet network.. same standard with korea.. i would glad to vote them... + if they cant do it  haiz.. =

There goes my pirating days...

Aarrrgggg  my pirate business are getting bigger biggrin.gif
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In this case the government a.k.a BN is the who enacted MCMC to ban the sites, so obviously they r the one to be blame. And it doesn't mean that PR will be the same, at least we need 2 give them a chance to prove their words.
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What a joke. If they wants to ban..ban the warez sites not the file hosting sites. Some company used em to transfer their files.
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you can use bolehvpn or expertyvpn.

i'm currently using expertyvpn (netherlands server) to download. the seller recommends netherlands server to download stuffs at the price of rm 13++/month
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 15 2011, 07:44 PM)
ExpertyVPN or LinVPN, both very cheap price compared to the bigger VPN, and they work just fine.

I've personally tested both, they work just fine even for P2P  smile.gif
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Thanks! Will try those out. Need a backup plan in case the DNS thing won't work anymore.
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Blame the pirates. You are probably the handful of people using file hosting for non-illegal usage.

Anyway, privacy or piracy?
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QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 09:06 PM)
ahh naive in denial. Let me explain a bit more on how this is an act against piracy.
Malaysians loves to pirate. They go to internet since they don't have to pay shit. They went into all those site to get them. They download them and be done with those site never to be entered unless they got something else to pirate.
You see, in their eyes and brains, they are supposedly trying to stop these acts of piracy. You may say whatever you want, you may justify how is that you are allowed to merompak, but the FACT is, they see how their bandwidth are being used, they see all these website being used to download nothing but pirated materials. So in their perspective they want to stop all this act of piracy since it is hogging up their bandwidth. Bandwidth running out but they're all used for illegal purposes? Which ISP on this planet going to allow it?

Now for my REAL point that you do not seem to get. Try to read this and understand it. I'll use an analogy for your easier understanding. Say a hardware store that sells machete. The store is very much legal. However the cops found out one day that criminals are always buying the machetes to commit a crime from this store. And so the police instead of looking around the ACTUAL criminal, they closed the shop. Why? Because it is EASY. They don't have to do any investigative work to find those criminals. All they need to do is stop the source where the tool of crime is obtained.

A very skewed solution to a problem isn't it? That is my point. Its an act against piracy, but a very stupid act. Not to mention an easy way out since they don't need to get their asses off their lovely seat and arrest those who sells them openly in pasar malam/shopping malls. Or maybe they do but turn a blind eye for some duit kopi?

As for your '100% against piracy'. MU sure I know. I've seen a lot of dead links myself. But ThePirateBay? Seriously you're digging their 100% against piracy? How many times do you think have they relocate to where the law can't touch them? You cannot believe what the government says but you believe a site filled with pirated materials they're against piracy? That is truly laughable. How about that website that has 'warez' in its name? That is like a marketplace for pirates.

Frankly, I'm hoping they get insanely serious with pirates. Get rid of those sellers, watch torrent website and bring those pirates to court. Ahh when the day comes I just sooo want to say padan muka to all those people.
What does that have anything close to do with anything I've said?
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Unfortunately none of the media is pressuring the government. Useless bunch of press.
Um, the media IS the government. Same bosses.
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If I may add, the immediate question is, does MCMC has the discrete power to decide & declare which site is illegal, then give discrete order to block without going some kind of house debate and/or court decision?

I really hope this is not another case of power abused, if it happend once, it will happen again.
Soon we probably can only access www.XXX.my only, or perhaps SKMM is the only ISP here ......

It seem like the present governing bodies only interested in blocking, they have no interest to understand & analyse why Malaysian tend to download, and why many others do not come & download from us.

We import more than export, this is the fact now. But what have the government done to increase & improve our local contain to attract others?

This useless blocking technique not only distance us away from the rest, it further discourage & drive away many local contain development.

SKMM, please look at a bigger picture, you don't own the world, you just have to work with the world. You are simply asking for more trouble by keep blocking other people sites, please wake up !!
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SKMM are bunch of people not knowing about internet. they dont even have FB page. even Suruhanjaya perkhidmatan awam have one. even Najib have one too. lol
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QUOTE(klseet @ Jun 16 2011, 09:19 AM)
If I may add, the immediate question is, does MCMC has the discrete power to decide & declare which site is illegal, then give discrete order to block without going some kind of house debate and/or court decision?

I really hope this is not another case of power abused, if it happend once, it will happen again.
Soon we probably can only access www.XXX.my only, or perhaps SKMM is the only ISP here ......

It seem like the present governing bodies only interested in blocking, they have no interest to understand & analyse why Malaysian tend to download, and why many others do not come & download from us.

We import more than export, this is the fact now. But what have the government done to increase & improve our local contain to attract others?

This useless blocking technique not only distance us away from the rest, it further discourage & drive away many local contain development.

SKMM, please look at a bigger picture, you don't own the world, you just have to work with the world. You are simply asking for more trouble by keep blocking other people sites, please wake up !!
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Exactly
There are no rules that state those file hosting sites are illegal, so how can anyone claim they are illegal?

This is an internet censorship that don't even have the law to back it up.

We have a bunch of mentally handicapped people up there running things
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hello. is there a way to bypass the block on celcom wireless broadband? i've tried google DNS and openDNS but no dice. still cant access the blocked website.
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hello. is there a way to bypass the block on celcom wireless broadband? i've tried google DNS and openDNS but no dice. still cant access the blocked website.
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Try using Ultrasurf. Its a free software that allows your browser to work through a proxy, and you can brows any website that are blocked
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we are already living in a (way way) below optimal internet country, I'd rather place my vote for new hope rather than voting the proven-to-be-rotten gomen.
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 16 2011, 01:53 PM)
Try using Ultrasurf. Its a free software that allows your browser to work through a proxy, and you can brows any website that are blocked
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Is it really gave assurance?
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yeah i agree, especially students, we don't have money to buy paper for our lecture notes...we got 'em from the lecturers via internet...in my case, the notes are long and full of pictures with high definition so that we can clearly...therefore, it exceed the 25MB limit that std email have...my mates and I rely heavily on the file sharing website
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You can use YouSendit or Dropbox.

But seriouslah, they make it BLOOD INCONVENIENT. I want to do my research lah !##^&()*#@.

Very very very angry. Stupid morons.
Come on people, register as voters & show them.

Yes, I AM a registered voter.
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Mediafire ?
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QUOTE(wayne322 @ Jun 16 2011, 03:36 PM)
Is it really gave assurance?
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Well it works for me
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It was created for people like those in China to bypass China's internet great wall. That is even more hard to bypass than our own TM blocking which is just at DNS level.
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QUOTE(Hornet @ Jun 16 2011, 11:53 AM)
There are no rules that state those file hosting sites are illegal, so how can anyone claim they are illegal?

This is an internet censorship that don't even have the law to back it up.

We have a bunch of mentally handicapped people up there running things
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Agreed. In fact, the rules state the opposite.

They lied to the people. I've lost all trust in them already.

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True, very true!!   thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(daylight_dancer @ Jun 16 2011, 05:27 PM)
But seriouslah, they make it BLOOD INCONVENIENT. I want to do my research lah !##^&()*#@.

Very very very angry. Stupid morons.
Come on people, register as voters & show them.

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Oh, they're are they ever in for it. Incurring the wrath of the citizens when election time is so close is something only someone with sponge for brains will do.

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They can always push the election back a little.
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Interesting column from thestar's B.K. Sidhu

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But one phrase that keeps popping up is “freedom of information.'' The blocking of sites is seen as going against freedom of information even though it is part of the fight against piracy.
  Over the past few days some businessmen in the country have received calls from their counterparts abroad asking if Malaysia was indeed coming on strong on censorship of the Internet.  Internet has become such a powerful tool for many people, be it for work, education, play and entertainment.
  Sending the wrong message can of course trigger a lot of thoughts of safety to stability especially when we as a country need foreign direct investments. 


The whole article here:

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...20&sec=business


Finally someone who does make sense.. notworthy.gif
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Made sense, but not a very good article. Writer did not realize that the biggest problem is that much of the material is not available in the country at all, or that only inferior version of a material is available in the country, and material not coming in fast enough. For example, we were the last to get Survivor I, which is filmed in Malaysia itself. Singapore got to watch it days after it was released, we needed to wait over a month after Singapore's airing of the final episode before it started in Malaysia. Also, Futurama already entered season 6. TV3 only aired up to Season 5 and have shown no intention to pick up season 6. And did I mention that many shows aired in Malaysia apparently have the "PAL Speedup" problem? Which can be avoided by pulling the film up to NTSC first before pulling it back down to PAL? I come to realize this while watching VOD on UniFi and comparing it to a R1 DVD from my collection playing back at the same time.

And my last example, Mythbusters is only available in Malaysia in SD. People who want it in HD are given the finger since it Discovery HD is not available here- only Discovery World HD.

Education is not good enough. We also need to make the content that people want available in the country legally and at affordable prices, and at a timely manner. And do it properly.

Deprivation results only in anger.

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Made sense, but not a very good article. Writer did not realize that the biggest problem is that much of the material is not available in the country at all, or that only inferior version of a material is available in the country, and material not coming in fast enough. For example, we were the last to get Survivor I, which is filmed in Malaysia itself. Singapore got to watch it days after it was released, we needed to wait over a month after Singapore's airing of the final episode before it started in Malaysia. Also, Futurama already entered season 6. TV3 only aired up to Season 5 and have shown no intention to pick up season 6. And did I mention that many shows aired in Malaysia apparently have the "PAL Speedup" problem? Which can be avoided by pulling the film up to NTSC first before pulling it back down to PAL? I come to realize this while watching VOD on UniFi and comparing it to a R1 DVD from my collection playing back at the same time.

And my last example, Mythbusters is only available in Malaysia in SD. People who want it in HD are given the finger since it Discovery HD is not available here- only Discovery World HD.

Education is not good enough. We also need to make the content that people want available in the country legally and at affordable prices, and at a timely manner. And do it properly.

Deprivation results only in anger.
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Not to mention starting a series and then never continue or conclude it.
I'm still waiting for the last few seasons of Star Trek Voyager, Enterprise, the continuation of Chuck, Burn Notice etc.
Then also, you have shows like Two and a Half Men that's screened at 1.30AM and yet so censored that some episodes aren't funny anymore.

So, what solution but to download?

TV3 got screen Season 5 of Futurama??
I only watched the original 4 seasons.
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Not to mention starting a series and then never continue or conclude it.
I'm still waiting for the last few seasons of Star Trek Voyager, Enterprise, the continuation of Chuck, Burn Notice etc.
Then also, you have shows like Two and a Half Men that's screened at 1.30AM and yet so censored that some episodes aren't funny anymore.

So, what solution but to download?

TV3 got screen Season 5 of Futurama??
I only watched the original 4 seasons.
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Wait, you're right. I mistook Season 4 for Season 5. My bad. Season 5 only received overpriced DVD releases, which are one year late no less. they also skipped episodes (iirc they skipped "Three Hundred Big Boys", which judging from the Wikipedia article, has nothing offensive in it at all)

But yes, i forgot to put that in too. They start a series and never continue or conclude it- that is one of my biggest gripes along with the random censoring. I have a long list of shows not concluded or followed up, most of the cartoons on my list has been uploaded to TVTropes under "Screwed By The Network". In fact, I've seen shows that are butchered until it made absolutely no sense at all. I like to use the Rugrats "Zoo Story" episode for that example. NTV7 chopped off scenes in that episode until it is meaningless. And what was cut? cartoon images of pigs. Since when is pigs illegal to show on TV, considering that at the time the news was about JE and the news keeps showing images of pig farms and pigs? As to how I know it was pigs, the episode was later aired uncut on Astro. Also, I was a member of a Rugrats fansite and read the full episode synopsis.

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When asked about the fate of surfers who legally use the websites such as for storing non-pirated content, Mohd Roslan said they could always write to the ministry.

“Anyone who feels the ban is wrong can write to us and we will look into it,” he said.


we can only write?
will they unblocked it? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! vmad.gif mad.gif
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Try using Ultrasurf. Its a free software that allows your browser to work through a proxy, and you can brows any website that are blocked
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Thanks. It's working now.
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@RAMChYLD, Let's not forget TV3's butchering of film to fit a two hour film into a two hour movie slot with advertisements.

ps. Futurama's back!

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@RAMChYLD, Let's not forget TV3's butchering of film to fit a two hour film into a two hour movie slot with advertisements.

ps. Futurama's back!
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It's on Assteruk sad.gif

I refuse to sign back up until they bring in the channel I've been asking for for the last three years, and bring back BBC Entertainment. I already made it clear to them: no Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, no talk!

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we can only write?
will they unblocked it? NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! vmad.gif  mad.gif
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Total waste of time to write to them...

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It's on Assteruk sad.gif

I refuse to sign back up until they bring in the channel I've been asking for for the last three years, and bring back BBC Entertainment. I already made it clear to them: no Doctor Who and Red Dwarf, no talk!
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No Astro here too.
Only download option.
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QUOTE(lukchardhsl @ Jun 18 2011, 09:04 AM)
The problem with our country is our government. We are actually in recession and out inflation rate is high and is steadily increasing. It pisses me off so badly that the government is lying to us that our country's economy is good. Yet, with all these circumstances they are still being corrupt and eating money left and right without doing anything about it.

Isn't the government about the people and not the administrators? Didn't Abraham Lincoln said the government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from Earth? Moreover, they government don't seem to bother finding out why people download.

People download because its free. Why do Malaysians like free stuffs? Because our economy bad la. No money to makan, pay rent, harga petrol naik, milk powder and harga electricity also naik. The price of things are steadily rising while the people's salary are still the same. People are already finding a hard time earning money.

Do you think Malaysians would pay for entertainment when they can get it for free given the circumstances? The government should consider this before they do stupid decisions like this and everyday minum duit kopi. It's really disgusting to see that these are the people ruling our country.
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