QUOTE(exentric_nova @ Jun 13 2011, 09:06 PM)
ahh naive in denial. Let me explain a bit more on how this is an act against piracy.
Malaysians loves to pirate. They go to internet since they don't have to pay shit. They went into all those site to get them. They download them and be done with those site never to be entered unless they got something else to pirate.
You see, in their eyes and brains, they are supposedly trying to stop these acts of piracy. You may say whatever you want, you may justify how is that you are allowed to merompak, but the FACT is, they see how their bandwidth are being used, they see all these website being used to download nothing but pirated materials. So in their perspective they want to stop all this act of piracy since it is hogging up their bandwidth. Bandwidth running out but they're all used for illegal purposes? Which ISP on this planet going to allow it?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reductio_ad_absurdum facepalm.jpg. Sure, resort to calling others naive when you yourself cannot understand what is legal and what is not.
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Now for my REAL point that you do not seem to get. Try to read this and understand it. I'll use an analogy for your easier understanding. Say a hardware store that sells machete. The store is very much legal. However the cops found out one day that criminals are always buying the machetes to commit a crime from this store. And so the police instead of looking around the ACTUAL criminal, they closed the shop. Why? Because it is EASY. They don't have to do any investigative work to find those criminals. All they need to do is stop the source where the tool of crime is obtained.
This is complacency and it solves almost nothing but hinder progress of culture and humanity. Filehosting/cloud computing is a future technology, whether you like it or not. Plus your analog is absurd as well as you're comparing murdering to a situation where you can't even "define" piracy at the first place. Both do not have the same severity. They differ too much to even be a proper analogy. You want a real analogy? The internet promotes stupidity, why not ban it altogether? This is essentially your argument.
Lrn2analogy.
File hosting sites are just file hosting sites. They really are no different than server spaces you get from paying. Except this one is paid through advertising.
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A very skewed solution to a problem isn't it? That is my point. Its an act against piracy, but a very stupid act. Not to mention an easy way out since they don't need to get their asses off their lovely seat and arrest those who sells them openly in pasar malam/shopping malls. Or maybe they do but turn a blind eye for some duit kopi?
So are you pro censorship or pro freedom? Make up your mind.
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As for your '100% against piracy'. MU sure I know. I've seen a lot of dead links myself. But ThePirateBay? Seriously you're digging their 100% against piracy? How many times do you think have they relocate to where the law can't touch them? You cannot believe what the government says but you believe a site filled with pirated materials they're against piracy? That is truly laughable. How about that website that has 'warez' in its name? That is like a marketplace for pirates.
>implying filehosting = torrent site.
No. It's a different issue altogether. As a matter of fact, throttling international torrent connections to an absurd level is already a good enough counter which renders torrent locally almost obsolete. Personally speaking as an engineer, torrent is pretty damn useful for transferring large chunks of files. Censoring/throttling the protocol while ignoring the prospects of creative learning (we engineers download linux distros pretty often, patches and so) is damaging as a whole to the entire country.
Do you want to nitpick? Do you know that torrent sites only stores hashfiles and torrent files? It is COMPLETELY legal. It is that censoring is against the act of internet freedom. Know how to differentiate between illegal and legal before proceeding to moral judgement. Two wrongs do not make one right. I don't mind Pirate Bay being censored to be honest, there's a difference between sites that supports copyright organization (i.e. the filehosts we have today) and against (i.e. piratebay).
Also, you don't cripple technology just to get to pirates. This is just plain ignorant. My point is the technology itself is NOT illegal. There's a difference between censoring "warez sites" and censoring technology.
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Frankly, I'm hoping they get insanely serious with pirates. Get rid of those sellers, watch torrent website and bring those pirates to court. Ahh when the day comes I just sooo want to say padan muka to all those people.
What does that have anything close to do with anything I've said?
Do it properly, not through censorship. Even the source of pirated wares (the US), does not do so.
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http://www.fileserve.com/dmca.php Read this. They even have DMCA backing their asses. Google the rest yourself.
This post has been edited by LittleGhost: Jun 13 2011, 10:34 PM