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How to differentiate AP and NIKON MALAYSIA warranty set.

All Nikon Malaysia set comes with warranty card like this


The wording NIKON MALAYSIA SDN. BHD on the warranty card is the best way to identify whether it's a genuine local set.

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Buying second hand items guidance for noob

Ken Rockwell facts !

Ken Rockwell is the Chuck Norris of photography

Ken Rockwell's camera has similar settings to ours, except his are: P[erfect] Av[Awesome Priority Tv[Totally Awesome Priority] M[ajestic]

Ken Rockwell doesn't color correct. He adjusts your world to match his.

Sure, Ken Rockwell deletes a bad photo or two. Other people call these Pulitzers.

Ken Rockwell doesn't adjust his DOF, he changes space-time.

Circle of confusion? You might be confused. Ken Rockwell never is.

Ken Rockwell doesn't wait for the light when he shoots a landscape - the light waits for him.

Ken Rockwell never flips his camera in portrait position, he flips the earth

Ken Rockwell ordered an L-lens from Nikon, and got one.

Ken Rockwell is the only person to have photographed Jesus; unfortunately he ran out of film and had to use a piece of cloth instead.

When Ken Rockwell brackets a shot, the three versions of the photo win first place in three different categories

Before Nikon or Canon releases a camera they go to Ken and they ask him to test them, the best cameras get a Nikon sticker and the less good get a Canon sticker

Once Ken tested a camera, he said I cant even put Canon on this one,thats how Pentax was born

Rockwellian policy isn't doublethink - Ken doesn't even need to think once

Ken Rockwell doesn't use flash ever since the Nagasaki incident.

Only Ken Rockwell can take pictures of Ken Rockwell; everyone else would just get their film overexposed by the light of his genius

Ken Rockwell wanted something to distract the lesser photographers, and lo, there were ducks.

Ken Rockwell is the only one who can take self-portraits of you

Ken Rockwell's nudes were fully clothed at the time of exposure

Ken Rockwell once designed a zoom lens. You know it as the Hubble SpaceTelescope.

When Ken unpacks his CF card, it already has masterpieces on it.

Rockwell portraits are so lifelike, they have to pay taxes

On Ken Rockwell's desktop, the Trash Icon is really a link to National Geographic Magazine

Ken Rockwell spells point-and-shoot "h-a-s-s-e-l-b-l-a-d"

When Ken Rockwell went digital, National Geographic nearly went out of business because he was no longer phyically discarding photos

For every 10 shots that Ken Rockwell takes, 11 are keepers.

Ken Rockwell's digital files consist of 0's, 1's AND 2's.

Ken Rockwell never focus, everything moves into his DoF

Ken Rockwell's shots are so perfect, Adobe redesigned photoshop for him: all it consists of is a close button.

The term tripod was coined after his silhouette

Ken Rockwell never produces awful work, only work too advanced for the viewer

A certain braind of hig-end cameras was named after people noticed the quality was a lot "like a" rockwell

Ken Rockwell isn't the Chuck Norris of photography; Chuck Norris is the Ken Rockwell of martial arts.

Ken Rockwell never starts, he continues

Reserved for LYN-ian gathering / TT !

once u go 1.4 u will never turn back

Danbo Shot 35mm f/1.4

Still keeping my 1.8g for lulz

Ahh, KTCY spoil the fun .

Just posted my pic then new thread, re-post then .


Cheng Lin by CY Pixels, on Flickr

This post has been edited by celciuz: May 26 2011, 10:25 PM

you all got model,
i use signboard


Signboard by YongJK, on Flickr

Anyone know what's the current price for D7000 battery grip (MB-D11)?

i got mine for rm450 last time...

And I bring my replies here as well:


Well, it could be done by editing them to add Active D-Lighting, but that's lot of hassle to do it that way. When shooting raw, features such as Active D-Lighting and Noise Reduction will not be applied on the image? I'm not so sure about this but many said these are useless because they shoot RAW. Or by mean they can adjust everything after shooting via editing? Isn't JPEG can also be edited? I'm clueless about this.

I think I gotta practise more on this flash dispersing to see the effect myself, but I'm yet to fire my flash for the first time due to my workload this week. Arghhh!!! The day to shoot is just around the corner and I have done nothing yet.

Andy214, how you usually use your flashgun? Without diffuser? With bounce card most of the time and flashing side wall?


Thanks aldo


Thanks for the information seng87, this is very useful else I might get panicked knowing what happening. Gotta flip through the manual before this weekend.


How about Harmolattice 2500mAh by Sanyo also using Eneelop engineering? Would that be recommended too?

Bokeh?


Odin by terbulance129, on Flickr


DSC_5668 by terbulance129, on Flickr

Been some times since I last snap a photo

@celciuz : Sorry Just noticed that thread reach the limit. so

nobody wanna guess which noob lens bokeh?

@general_nic : 2nd photo looks soft / OOF

first pic underexposed and soft imo

This post has been edited by elainor: May 26 2011, 10:40 PM

well, it's 2 yrs ago photo with auto mode

btw, its 55-200
1st pic 200mm @ f/5.6
2nd pic 55mm @ f/4

This post has been edited by General_Nic: May 26 2011, 11:06 PM

aiya just follow instruction from them can edi if they wan you take out something.

nice mid valley

manual PP bokeh canot ar?

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 26 2011, 10:59 PM

yea can edit until f/0.0

wah..new house... v10

Now I almost can compare which one is poor lens bokeh and expensive lens bokeh... this is no good to me

This post has been edited by 168257061: May 26 2011, 11:21 PM

Not as nice as real one

Thanks for bringing, I thought wanna copy then saw you bring here already.

Yes, shooting RAW means unedited, RAW; The picture control, noise reduction all is not applied. JPEG is the edited copy based on what settings you set; When PP, RAW gives you more flexibility/possibilities; You can try shoot RAW+JPEG. Then load both picture in editing software like Lightroom and see the difference as you adjust. With RAW, it's better especially adjusting white balance.
For starting, you can try shooting RAW+JPEG, then you can try to PP your RAW file to match the JPEG output or make it better. The JPEG output can be used as reference, and actually can be useful for immediate use.

If there's wall/ceiling, I prefer flashing off the wall, but if I move around, I will be busy twisting the flash head because the effect it will effect the image when bouncing from different side; Try and play around with it and notice the difference; But when capturing moments, you might not have the time to keep adjusting because you need to be fast; The most basic is bounce off ceiling and don't really need adjustment. Even bouncing off the ceiling, you can still create some better effects by bouncing it slightly to the sides actually... but overall it will affect the overall light.

I seldom shoot outdoor at night or without ceiling, so not so big issue; but previously I use bigger bounce card to soften the flash. As for diffuser, personally I don't like the output result, but lit up more area and is more powerful. It's best you try it yourself and choose what's best you want to use.
For your wedding, there will be ceiling and walls around mostly; For the restaurant, unless it's a big hall which the ceiling is very high up, you should still be able to bounce the light; If not you can try experiment with the flash/bounce card or diffuser and choose which you prefer, or try the "Demb Diffuser Pro".

Just my cheap 2 shutter clicks. Anybody care to share or add on or correct anything I said wrongly, please do share.

EDITED:
Here's a sample bouncing off the ceiling, but slightly to the other sides; It gives a different effect, but also affected the overall lightings available. If bouncing straight up or slightly front, the effect is again different and there will also be more light. It all comes down to your preference and how you want the picture to turn out.


This post has been edited by Andy214: May 27 2011, 12:31 AM

Sup Nikon fan boyssss =)

Hey, I just tested my friend's newly bought D5100. I really love the vari-angle monitor but it's kinda fragile to me. It feels like it will break off anytime.

Other than this, I can feel the body is really compact and light even with a recording ability comparing to D3100. The bad thing, I don't like the shutter sound =(

That's all.

Does it worth for money? I'm planning to get D5100 next month. Budget only 3k. Any recommendation other than this camera?
Also, the shutter sound is caused by the lense or the camera itself? Newbie here

Most of the new camera they have a more quieter and "compressed" shutter sound. But it won't affect your photo shoot.

In my opinion, if you are getting your first DSLR, you can try the D5100 or D3100. I believe the price of D3100 will be lower than D5100. =)

Worth for money, kinda. Light weight, vari-angle monitor and decent sensor. But I wouldn't say it's the best for Entry-level camera

If I'm not wrong, D7000 is the best entry level camera from Nikon right?
so you mean the shutter sound actually comes from the body itself, not the lense?

Ahh, meaning should i just leave my lappie in the bag and let it scan thru unless they personally ask me to take it out ? I mean since it'll have to scan no matter what anyway...

D7000 should be mid range for me...because got TOP LCD?
if you got budget then go for D7000, because after you learn that you will find the button on the body in D7000 is VERY USEFUL for fast setting for shutter speed, iso, apeture , white balance, metering etc...

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Added on May 27, 2011, 1:05 amif they call you strip your bag then you strip for them la, if they dun then just pretend dunno

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 27 2011, 01:05 AM

When and where was it you got the BG? I checked with Yannick and he's offering me at RM450 too. Pro Images from Malacca offering RM420 but kinda impossible for me to go there

Any other place got lower offering and I can check with?

In fact, I should thanks you instead for keep sharing your thoughts and guidance with me

I have been shooting in RAW since the day I bought it. Thankfully I picked the 16GB SanDisk Extreme else the capacity really insufficient. The other day I helped my friend to capture the backscene of her wedding photography and almost filling 80% up by just RAW and without JPEG. Anyway, I only imported the RAW into Adobe LR and then let the Auto-Tone do the job. I'm yet to learn on how to edit the photo properly being so many bars I can drag the values. Here is one of my random luck playing with Develop in LR:



I have no idea what I did, but the outcome really surprising me

By any chance you guys really developing the photos one by one or just selected photos to develop? I still rely on the AWB and Adobe LR auto-tone to do the magic for me

Hmm... on a side note, I actually collected the KelbyTraining - Working with Nikon SB-900 series and Nikon's A Hands On Guide to Creative Lighting videos long ago before I get my DSLR. I'm yet to watch them both, but I guess I'll at least go through the Kelby's to get the idea for my practising and the Nikon's guide only when I mastered the basic.

Thanks again for sharing how you do for your flashgun usage, I shall keep them as reference when I'm doing my practising tomorrow or on Saturday

Beside the flashgun, I think I'll be getting the BG too for my D7000 as I often take more portrait photo than landscape. Regarding the BG, if I'm attaching the BG to the body, I can just move the battery into the BG's slot and leaving the body's one empty?

This post has been edited by vearn27: May 27 2011, 01:06 AM

Personal opinion:
If you're really looking into DSLR, then it's worth, but then, if you're getting serious, you might want to consider a body with more controls. And you will need to start "investing" later on.

If you're looking for a good camera which have good performance like a DSLR, simple and easy to use, less "problems", less "maintenance", less investment or little. You might want to consider something else, such as those current mirrorless maybe?
Example:
DSLR usage is different with normal digital camera/point and shoot; You use a viewfinder, which gives a totally different feel and you won't see the effect until you review the picture in your LCD and you notice, oh DARK, or oh too bright. With digital camera, you use the LCD and the settings you adjust, changes in real time so you can see roughly how the image will turn out later.
When using DSLR in Live View mode, it kind of defeat the purpose and you might notice the performance is worst than many high end digital camera. Then when you're looking to upgrade the lens, you will see the "investment" you need to do.

If you take a look at the latest Panasonic G3 preview video, you will notice how good the performance is and easy to use. There's touch focus feature; You can even adjust the focus point size, and so on; When you focus an area, it will zoom it to let you see whhether the image is in focus; The auto-focus speed is also fast, the video even demo their touch-focus-shoot process, means when you touch, it will focus and immediately capture the photo and the person do it in continuously touching different area.

Anyway, if you're really looking into DSLR, then kindly ignore my comments; The reason I share this is because there're people who buy DSLR for the wrong reasons only to find out they don't actually need a DSLR; They thought DSLR as a powerful camera, suppose to be work better in EVERY WAY, but not knowing about the differences and limitations.

OT a bit, how much G3 cost?

Thanks your opinion bro. Anyway, I'm serious of learning dslr. I do notice its pros and cons.
I'm looking for the best one within my budget. But again, I know it is more to personal preference.
Just searching for comments for entry level cameras. Cheers

i share 1 photo oso...

Looks good, from 85G?

oh me classmates btw



Yeap 80200 two touch abit soft wide open

lowest price for 35mm 1.8 still rm750?

ya, so far for now in this thread.

do you find it is worth of the money?
I am thinking to get one soon.
walawe my d7k front weight also


mid valley a?
tak paham lah abang.

racun racun racun

D7000 ain't entry level..LOL
only D3100 and D5100 count as entry level.

like agito said..if they ask u take out then take out lo..if no just walk like normal..
but last sunday when i flying,they did ask me to take out my laptop..just sharing..

he only got 3k budget la..

lucky no money, no need racun
btw, u use d7k ?

google "valley" then see back what i quote XD

he is

Eh upgraded liao ar ?
I thought he last time like using no-in-body-motor dslr
now all rich here, get d7k, sb900... me left nothing

aldo bought d7k ed? so rich oh

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Added on May 27, 2011, 10:23 amDamn, its friday again. thx agito remind me

This post has been edited by junior5417: May 27 2011, 10:23 AM

i still using same body what
still D70s


This post has been edited by Agito666: May 27 2011, 10:25 AM

Me where got sb900? I am using white color torch only lor, hahaha..
Yup been almost a month using d7k u lagi rich lah using FX body.. worrr


this one kah? confusing.


where got rich people sold his lens?

http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Cam...U=MDH001-B00P60

http://www.crumpler.com/AU/Camera-Bags/Cam...U=MDH001-T01P60

Which one nicer?

I prefer the 1st link, with beech/black color and I love brow/gunmetal/orange color. I prefer more color rather than a black one, as I've seen a lot of my friends using 'non-black' Crumpler and I like them.. Too bad, budget constraint, cant afford



If you have 3k, why not getting a D90?

that kelby training one conducted by joe mcnally...
should go check out the others...maybe u go mad
http://www.kelbytraining.com/instructors/joe-mcnally.html

How bout this??



p/s: over exposed..

This post has been edited by KIEN18: May 27 2011, 11:04 AM

got over ar? i feel normal...maybe over a bit bit, but still okay what XD

This post has been edited by Agito666: May 27 2011, 11:07 AM

is there any 5100 w/ bundle 18-105 package in malaysia?

its not just body

but then his lens also cost 1k plus right?

I think D5100is better than D90, right?
D90 has better view finder and has more speed.
Other than that, D5100 is better.

ya, you are right, even D3100 some performance is on par or better than D90...just lack of control only.
so D5100 needless to say, it is on almost par with D7000

right? correct me if i m seriously wrong

no i think

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Added on May 27, 2011, 11:48 am^NO!!! d5100 cant win d7000. LOL..
I butthurt.. haha

This post has been edited by junior5417: May 27 2011, 11:48 AM

hehe...
too bright...

i mean "almost on par"... like iso performance i think is almost same with D7000 right?... or something... burst shot sure cant la... control wise also cant la of course...
not sure the noise handling performance.......

Don't worry, you will slowly discover more and improve as you PP; just take care not to over-PP, and try to view the picture in different types of monitor and so on; unless maybe your monitor/lcd already been calibrated.

You can actually select multiple photo and sync the adjustment settings, and then touch up those that requires further touch up. You can also compare with the original picture to see the changes, etc; You can also try auto-tone and see the differences, but auto-tone may not work well for all photos.
Increasing certain values can introduce more noise (or make it more visible), and also darken the photo, changing the skin tone colour, etc. (You might want to zoom in 1:1 to see more clearly the differences)
Example: Contrast; too much contrast can make it unnatural; You might not notice it sometimes, but what you can do is, let other take a look, or review back the picture again after some time, etc.

Anyway, good luck and enjoy your flash experience. Hope you will have great fun and hopefully the result will amaze you.


No idea, not yet launch I think.
After G3, will be GF3 and GH3, GH3 being the high end model (and most expensive)


No problem bro; I think you can try consider fork out more for a better body with more controls, like the D90 or even better, the D7000; because if you're serious in learning DSLR, you'll eventually want the controls instead of using, changing the settings much like a digital camera with some controls...

Anyway, it's best for you to try those models first; you can actually go and try it out at Nikon Berjaya Times Square; The D90 and D7000 is a bigger body, better grip, the controls are very useful, etc.

Personally, I would "recommend' those bodies cause it's not worth upgrading later on (which if you get serious, it's just a matter of time). To me, those entry level like D3100 or D5100, is more like targeted to those who want a DSLR performance, but want easy to use and control, without worry too much about settings, at the same time, they can slowly advance and move forward (if they decided to). Thus, those entry levels, have many in-menu guides, tutorials, etc and settings using menu like digital camera.

Just my cheap 2 shutter clicks.

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Added on May 27, 2011, 12:19 pmMore... and it's not just 1 lens

Actually, it makes the skin tones looks nicer; The background maybe overexpose, but the subject is expose better, the subject might like their skins is bright

This post has been edited by Andy214: May 27 2011, 12:19 PM

Kk, thanks for the info. Much appreciate it.
Heading to KLIA in 5 hrs.

I did not calibrate my LCD using any device but I followed the settings exactly as per recommended by a website after calibration.

I just checked the Demb Flash Diffuser Pro and it's priced at RM170, do I really need it or DIY larger bounce card will do the same effect if not similar? Not necessary required, isn't?

Buy me some chocolate for free

Ok, i'll pass u the chocolate wrappers later. For free!

Where are you heading?? =D *busybody*

well, there's a reason why demb is still in business
u can always buy the cheaper china copy of the spectralight for around rm50, which should work just as well...but probably wont last as long.

LOL. Your bolded statement got me into thinking now

Are you one of the Demb Flash Diffuser Pro user too? Anything to share about the kit?

Haven't done any serious shooting lately. Some of my very old photos when I was actively shooting.


85mm f/1.4




135mm f/2.0





Well, useless because most people use ACR or LR to edit in which all built-in settings (except WB info) are ignored.

Capture NX2 or View NX2 will take into account all in-camera settings.



Well, picture control, noise reduction etc does not apply if you use ACR etc. If you use Capture NX2 or ViewNX2, yes, they are applied automatically unless you switch them off inside the camera BEFORE the capture.

Well, with Capture NX2 and to a certain extend the View NX2, these settings can also be accessed and switched off inside the editor AFTER the shot.



Just a tip. You can actually shoot NEF / RAW only and later use a tool to extract the JPG embedded inside NEF / RAW file after you copy it to your hardisk. That way you save space on your CF/SD card.

no la, mine is just a used demb flash diffuser classic for rm80.
i was looking at the cheap china spectralight copies for rm50-80 depending on the seller, and the plastic ball joint connector doesnt inspire alot of confidence.
but whats nice about the spectralight design is can flip over the flashhead and use as emergency softbox...and comes with a nice pouch

I don't have a lot of lenses la. only 2 lenses what.

Bounce Card is not as flexible as Demb Flash Diffuser Pro. You can check out the website for tutorial on the product, there're may ways you can use the product to direct your lights and let's you create more creative lightings.

Personally, I have haven't got it, but planning to and try it out.


Thanks for the tips!
For LR, when you load the NEF files, it does apply some "preset" settings based on camera model, but it can be turn off.
Do you use noise reduction in the software? Or just leave the noise alone;

Love your shots, especially the 135mm f/2; Damm.....

Demb Diffuser Pro can do the same? I mean flip over the flashhead and use as emergency softbox?

I'm spending on the flashgun and BG instead of lens hoping that I can deliver this coming weekend shooting. Relying only on Kelby's video tutorial to do crash course for doing photography with flash. I'm just crazy now to think about Demb Diffuser Pro

thats why its called demb diffuser
softbox is also diffused, but with direct diffused flash...
demb cannot do direct cos the panel is not transparent.
tho i guess the spectralight softbox effect isnt that good.
imo, dont waste time with those mini softboxes...just use bounce enough.

@vearn27

When? January where? Fotopresident gurney plaza Penang.


Wah d7k liao! Yea I think it's worth the bucks as I'm shooting portrait most of the time. Quality real good as well not sure bout 3rd party brand.

@andy214

Mind to share how to turn off the preset when importing net file to LR?thanks!

Now I'm considering whether to get the Demb Diffuser Pro along with the D7000 BG or not... hmmm, do you guys think it worth to get it?

Anyway, if I attached the BG to the body, can I use the existing battery on the BG instead of the body? Therefore I'll need not to unattach the BG every time I wanted to charge the battery.

DFD is my favorite diffuser so far , versatile and flexible to suits to most conditions.

If it behaves similarly to the MB-D10 (it should), then yes you can use the tray only. I don't have battery in the body most of the time. pst, 1 more batt -> heavier LOL.

anyone go to Putrajaya for the Belia event there? summore got photo contest right?

Will be going tomorrow, taking photos of the paintball event

does it affect the fps as well?
Err, doesn't really matter though. Will be getting mine next month or the month after.

That's ! I'm sold !

Ok, because I'm afraid I might need to de-attach the BG from the body every time I need to charge the battery. Due to this weekend event, I bought almost everything that I listed not to get for starting . Now I guess the 50mm f/1.8G gonna be postponed

Nope, it doesn't affect the FPS, still at 6 even though with the BG. I'm getting mine later today

Bro eddie

RS-Sport Strap =D

guys, sad to say that i will be jumping ship over to the white side. reason being that both my shooting partners are using 'nonac' systems and i am the only one using nikon. as much as i love nikon and being a nikon fanboy, i have decided to change to over to 'nonac' for convenience sake and not bcos i dont love nikon anymore ! do forgive me guys ! it's been great learning from this thread and will continue to follow this thread ! have a great weekend to all !

to redeem your sin, please give your nikon stuff to me for free

lol im tempted to jump ship aswell since my friends dad said he can give me "good price" of canon stuff (he's Canon Msia ambassador ). One veteran nikon kaki here in lolyat do take his offer and jump ship last year iirc

Still cant get that 7D out of my head after all this while

I'm also quite tempted to jump ship
Nikon don't have cheaper telephoto lens with VR. sigh

This post has been edited by nivlanauk: May 27 2011, 06:01 PM

can.. i write on a piece of paper .." NIKON STUFF " then i give to u for free ok ?

that's good. but dont jump just bcos you can get cheaper price. you must see which system suits you more.

...
or gimmie your nonac strap XD

im thinking of putting on Nikon strap on my nonac camera !