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post May 27 2011, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(Terbulance @ May 26 2011, 10:33 PM)
Bokeh?
Haven't done any serious shooting lately. Some of my very old photos when I was actively shooting.


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QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 26 2011, 10:33 PM)
Well, it could be done by editing them to add Active D-Lighting, but that's lot of hassle to do it that way. When shooting raw, features such as Active D-Lighting and Noise Reduction will not be applied on the image? I'm not so sure about this but many said these are useless because they shoot RAW. Or by mean they can adjust everything after shooting via editing? Isn't JPEG can also be edited? I'm clueless about this.


Well, useless because most people use ACR or LR to edit in which all built-in settings (except WB info) are ignored.

Capture NX2 or View NX2 will take into account all in-camera settings.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 27 2011, 12:17 AM)
Yes, shooting RAW means unedited, RAW; The picture control, noise reduction all is not applied. JPEG is the edited copy based on what settings you set; When PP, RAW gives you more flexibility/possibilities; You can try shoot RAW+JPEG. Then load both picture in editing software like Lightroom and see the difference as you adjust. With RAW, it's better especially adjusting white balance.


Well, picture control, noise reduction etc does not apply if you use ACR etc. If you use Capture NX2 or ViewNX2, yes, they are applied automatically unless you switch them off inside the camera BEFORE the capture.

Well, with Capture NX2 and to a certain extend the View NX2, these settings can also be accessed and switched off inside the editor AFTER the shot.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ May 27 2011, 12:17 AM)
For starting, you can try shooting RAW+JPEG, then you can try to PP your RAW file to match the JPEG output or make it better. The JPEG output can be used as reference, and actually can be useful for immediate use.


Just a tip. You can actually shoot NEF / RAW only and later use a tool to extract the JPG embedded inside NEF / RAW file after you copy it to your hardisk. That way you save space on your CF/SD card.
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post May 30 2011, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ May 29 2011, 10:53 PM)
I fall in love with my friend's 5D Mark II + 135mm f/2 more and more everyday. The colour is just beautiful biggrin.gif

Wonder if D700 can beat 5D Mark II.
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Errr, Nikon's 135mm f/2.0 is also beautiful. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(0168257061 @ May 29 2011, 11:28 PM)
canon got 135 f2, nikon also got  tongue.gif
but seriously,
time to upgrade AF-S + N + ED loh nikon doh.gif so slowpoke
Wah, is that a Nikon AF 135mm f/2.0. Just got it?

Nikon may be slow but once they upgrade a particular lens, you can bet that it's a lens that everybody would benchmark against.

I rather have updated lenses that have been tested properly than updating lenses just for the sake of doing it.

QUOTE(fcuk90 @ May 30 2011, 11:13 AM)
talking about straight out of camera ,

last few day when at n-seoul tower , my fren using 550d keep trying to get the same picture as my gf's d90 , same setting , same aperture , same shutter , same iso , both using awb , 50mm 1.8 different brand oni , in the end still cant get the same ,his 1 is like chao ta on the face part , while d90's one is white and warm on the face part.make him jealous

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Difficult to say. I notice Canon users usually up saturation and use their built-in Picture Styles which makes skintones horrible when viewed at the back of the camera LCD. Once they shoot RAW and upload it though ACR/LR, it looks ok. That's because like Nikon also, all Canon Picture Styles settings are ignored and makes skintones more pleasing when processed through ACR/LR.

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 30 2011, 12:29 PM)
Its f/2 isn't it? Many primes are sharp at f/2 leh tongue.gif If not sharp then its a bad lens haha!
The f/2.0 is the maximum aperture on the 135mm lens. As with any other lens, to have the lens sharp WIDE OPEN at f/2.0 is a mark of a good quality lens.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ May 30 2011, 11:49 AM)
the other pics of the bag shows a 300.
assume fake.
if i was u, go buy from authorised store...will be slightly more expensive...
but then, u dont spend rm15,000 on equipment just to store it in a fake bag right?
I started out with Lowepro. They are very good bags for the money (buy in Singapore for cheaper price) but after a while, I tried to get away with camera bags that would shout to other people that there are expensive camera equipment inside.

Then I went for Crumpler and Kata for smaller loads. But now, there's too many fake Crumplers around.

Just a few months back when I was looking for a bigger bag but compact enough for handcarry to put in the overhead compartment in the plane, I told myself I should go with Thinkthank instead. I'm glad I did and I'm very pleased with the quality and for the amount of equipment that it can carry. I hope this one does not get copied also. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ May 30 2011, 01:30 PM)
Just calibrated my laptop. Surprisingly my laptop display is colder side. Now it sets to warmer side i can't get use to it.
LCD monitors are always on the cold side by default. Once calibrated, it should look slightly warm.
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post May 31 2011, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ May 30 2011, 08:28 PM)
back from cameron highlands! man.. amazing place... love the people and exotic flora and fauna there... the weather wasn't very friendly to my nose though.. haha
anyway, wanna spammm tongue.gif
Not bad. Keep up the good work. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(celciuz @ May 31 2011, 10:31 AM)
Shoot started late due to MUA slow sad.gif

Had to use flash since sun already set and sucks if I use ISO to compensate >_<
Nice one.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ May 31 2011, 12:41 AM)
BTW, if I'm to look for one decent lens to cover up wedding photography, which one could it be? I remember I read a lot of people recommending 70-200 from this forum. However, in tight area like the place I shoot last weekend, 70-200 even on FX will be very limited as the place is small, perhaps 24-70 then? What would you guys recommend for my next target to get?
You have already answered your own question. The 24-70mm f/2.8 will be nice for wedding on FX.

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post Jun 1 2011, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(BenSow @ May 31 2011, 07:06 PM)
guys if send lens to NCKL for cleaning( dust at the area which connects to the camera ) will it cost me money? If its just a light clean...
Dust IN the lens element? Does it affect your pics? If not, I would just leave it.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 1 2011, 12:37 AM)
I understand exactly what you are trying to share. Therefore, if I'm looking for one good lens to invest to pair it up with my D7000 with crop-factor, that would be 24-70 if I wanted FX lens, otherwise the DX King? What's the current market rate for 24-70?
Brand new around 5.8k?

On DX, the 24-70 is not wide anymore. I believe if you want to be into wedding photography, a wide angle lens is a necessity.

If you're primarily into DX and would foresee yourself with the D7000 for quite a while longer, the 17-55 is nice. If you upgrade FX later, the 17-55 would still hold it's value when you sell it later.

QUOTE(sakurakinomoto @ Jun 1 2011, 12:44 AM)
I would say go for 2470.  brows.gif

One of the nicest lens ever.
Yup. Most ideal on FX. Excellent on DX too but the 24mm end is not wide enough.

Canon had this range for the longest time when Nikon only had the old (but still excellent) AF-S 28-70mm f/2.8.

QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 1 2011, 12:48 AM)
One pic before going to bed biggrin.gif, trying out something different from my usual style tongue.gif
I like the lighting but IMO, I think I rather have the full figure of the model while maintaining the same framing (model on the left side) or if not, maintain same framing (model on the left side) but zoom in closer from stomach upwards and include the background on top right.

QUOTE(vearn27 @ Jun 1 2011, 10:34 AM)
How often you guys use the horizon indicator? Izzit only available in D7000 or all models have it? unsure.gif

I assigned that to my Fn button and sometime it made me searching for it when I'm holding the grip laugh.gif doh.gif
It's one of the least used features on the D700 for me at least. I don't think I've activated it. blush.gif

I use the grid lines in the viewfinder to position the camera horizontal.

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post Jun 1 2011, 11:12 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 1 2011, 10:49 AM)
i dont use that indicator much, cos the default viewfinder grid on D7000 already good enough.
my Fn button is set to 'flash off'.
Yup. My Fn button is also programmed to flash off.


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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 1 2011, 11:07 AM)
Understand the first point, but for second point I don't quite get it. Do you mean from a lower angle?

Thanks for the feedback smile.gif.
Perhaps yes if the background is included.

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post Jun 2 2011, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(geekster129 @ Jun 1 2011, 08:25 PM)
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This guy shooting video without steadicam, somemore, when breathing through the mask, even easier to have shaky hands.... Salute!
You'll probably get the Blair Witch Project film effect. Some people find it desirable. But I will be mabuk after watching it. laugh.gif

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 2 2011, 12:25 AM)
Its a rush+not perfect edit but you'll get the idea laugh.gif
Yeah, I thought it was a very good attempt at fixing the pic even though a rush job. Well done. rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(nicky1112001 @ Jun 2 2011, 10:57 AM)
AF-S NIKKOR 35mm f/1.8G
* AF-S NIKKOR 50mm f/1.8G

my i know wat diffrent on this 2 lens?

current i using my 50mm 1.8d  at my d3100...looking for upgrade to some auto focus lens...which 1 more stutable for me?
If you're comfortable with the field of view (FoV) and focal length of the old 50mm lens, then the new AF-S 50mm f/1.8G would be great. The 35mm f/1.8G offers a little bit of wider angle compared to the 50mm. Depends on the shooter, but the 35mm may be more of your type than the 50mm. Try it out and see if you like it.

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 2 2011, 10:58 AM)
17mm with those blurry background.  blush.gif
Agree that at 17mm, it's almost impossible to get that kind of subject isolation.

Close to that would be a 24mm f/1.4. drool.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 2 2011, 02:30 PM)
1) bring JP translator
2) Bring the "sirim approved potrait shot photographer" a.k.a Celciuz to snap XD because i m lousy noob using my DSLR for now. tongue.gif
I'll just hold the reflector for Celciuz. cool2.gif

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 2 2011, 02:50 PM)
may i know how did you edit the original image? how did you get the bokeh? and isit only with pp can get the background blur if shooting a subject at the same distance?

Thanks
17mm focal length is quite impossible to get bokeh like that even if there is such a thing as 17mm f/1.4 shooting wide open ! You would need to PP.

My guess is that if you can hypothetically shoot shoot at f/1.4 and 17mm focal length at that distance, you'd get almost everything in focus.

QUOTE(elainor @ Jun 2 2011, 03:15 PM)
About the coloured gnd filter, which colour is the best to use in landscape, im planning to get g red, blue, purple and perhaps pink?
I believe colour of the ND is not important. Just get the common one (grey). If you want effects, play around with PP/WB.

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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 2 2011, 03:41 PM)
who here changes lens often?
Not so much if you have 2 bodies. biggrin.gif

But yes, if I change lenses on location, I do it in the bag. When the camera body remains open while opening the lens cap, I use my hand to temporarily cover the hole on the camera body.

QUOTE(@meno @ Jun 2 2011, 04:32 PM)
Yes, the holder is universal and supports most lenses with a filter thread up to 77mm. For lenses like the Nikkor 14-24 F/2.8, you'd need to get a special holder from Lee (SW150).
You have it? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jun 2 2011, 08:53 PM)
From my limited experience with ballhead, I have one cheapo Victory ballhead that came with the tripod versus a Manfrotto 498RC2. Basically, the cheapo ballhead can hold my tripod... but the big differences is its easier to get the composition I want with the manfrotto... easier to compose as after you tighten it doesn't move like the cheapo ballhead.
When you use a monopod, you don't need a ballhead. You just screw the monopod directly to the lens foot. It's more secured. You usually carry the lens + body + monopod by holding the monopod.
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Sorry, I quoted the wrong person. My post was in reference to elainor's picture.
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QUOTE(elainor @ Jun 2 2011, 09:37 PM)
But i need something to attached to the camera rite?  hmm.gif i cant attached the monopod straight from the leg.
Take the ballhead off and you'll see a stud screw. That screw can be mounted directly on the lens foot. Don't worry about scratching the lens foot. Your monopod should have some rubber padding where the surface touches the lens foot.

QUOTE(Everdying @ Jun 2 2011, 09:38 PM)
that would depend on ur shooting position.
some ppl also dont like monopods straight up and prefer it at an angle for more stability, thats where a ballhead comes into play.
If you have to angle the camera body, you have the monopod too high up for the type of shooting required. I would lower the monopod so much so I can swing from left to right smoothly. Try it and you would appreciate the stability of the mount when the monopod screws directly on the lens foot.

QUOTE(gnome @ Jun 2 2011, 11:57 PM)
I dunno bout you but i dont wanna risk my camera being spoilt by 3rd party battery just because you wanna save a few bucks sweat.gif
I think we can safely say that generally those good 3rd party batteries like Photix would not create problems for the camera. I believe the issue is more to do with the battery costing just slightly less than Nikon original and does not last as long as the original Nikon. That being the case, just buy Nikon originals.


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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 6 2011, 02:36 PM)
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Wahlau... Very thin DoF. rclxms.gif Opening the original pic can see misai.

QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 6 2011, 04:27 PM)
any of u use uv filter together with nd8 filter?
Why would you want to do that?

Take out the UV filter if you want to put on ND filter.

QUOTE(vincent09 @ Jun 7 2011, 12:28 AM)
But will they rush on their work because of too many ppl looking for FOC LoL~~~
+1 Have to wait very long que. sad.gif

QUOTE(KTCY @ Jun 7 2011, 10:30 AM)
Ages never touch or shoot any photos smile.gif
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Nikkor f/1.4 with gold ring rocks biggrin.gif (85mm doesn't have ED tho sad.gif.. no aspherical too!)
Nice. Less is more in this case. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 7 2011, 07:51 PM)
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The skintones are a little funky. What did you do?
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QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 7 2011, 09:59 PM)
rawrrr went to try reverse mounted lens macro again... quite fun but at the same time very worried about my lens contacts and sensor..
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Very good attempt. smile.gif You used flash?

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 7 2011, 10:11 PM)
I have no adapter >< handheld all the way, even the aperture ring... yeah it's super hard for me because of constant handshake and I shoot outdoors for enough lighting as my flash currently no battery and i can't get good shots of insects indoors... Outdoors means there's wind, which will shake my subject also...
If you're serious into macros, you would need a tripod. Handheld is very frustrating especially on manual focus.

With a tripod, you can take your time to fine tune by moving the tripod / camera back or front slowly when you're in manual focus.

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jun 7 2011, 10:22 PM)
Looks like Flash is used?
In my experience, using flash is very easy to get great skintones.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 7 2011, 11:41 PM)
more 18-55mm macro biggrin.gif

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Nice. rclxms.gif notworthy.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 8 2011, 01:46 AM)
judging from the perspective and DOF. I believe it is 24 1.4? is it correct?
or it is 20-something 2.8?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 8 2011, 01:46 AM)
I was using flash gun diffused by reflector for the 1st one.
and reflector with sunlight for the 2nd one.
What kind of reflector was that? Coloured one? What WB did you use? In Vivid mode?
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QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 8 2011, 12:52 PM)
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Skintones much better here.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 8 2011, 01:18 PM)
1st one looks quite washed out to my eyes ><
Check your screen. Looks fine here.

QUOTE(Kiki-Lala @ Jun 8 2011, 01:22 PM)
this is...madness. Saw it online. Keep your gears tight. That's the result for having a fight with his girlfriend. Hahaha.
LOL Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned !

If these people can bash a more expensive Lambo with sledge hammers, lenses are peanuts.

QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 8 2011, 02:36 PM)
what places in penang is a most shot spot? any know? smile.gif
Saw in the papers that there is something on at the Penang Botanical Gardens.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 8 2011, 03:13 PM)
just stalk one of my favourite korean cosplayer blog (see picture only, i duno read korean  sweat.gif ), Len/Ren/Momoren ...
hmmm what nikon model is that?
D300s ? D700?
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Base on the rubber that covers the connectors, it's a D300/D300s.

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jun 8 2011, 03:13 PM)
one of her best cosplay photo brows.gif  nice stuff must share one  whistling.gif
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drool.gif Taken with a 5DMk II with EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L USM.

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 8 2011, 05:17 PM)
LOL if girls see this then they will keep targeting men with many lenses
Disclaimer: Don't shoot me if it does not work.

Get married fast. Have kids. Take cute baby photos with your gear that makes your wife shed a tear. Nothing will come in between you and the camera. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(BenSow @ Jun 8 2011, 05:17 PM)
Guys I'm very noob at electronics and stuff so how does one set up like a fluorescent tube that you can bring any where and place it vertically? Means like a portable lighting equipment.. ><
There are a lot of rechargeable battery operated with multiple LEDs. Saves battery and very bright. Is that what you are looking for?

Change to a higher WB so that the light source from the LED light does not look too white.
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QUOTE(xilerain @ Jun 9 2011, 01:27 AM)
tried already D700 but not enough to impress me.... the fps is like machine gun  rclxm9.gif
D3 FPS like machine gun? Have you tried to shoot the D700 with a MB-D10 battery grip? whistling.gif

QUOTE(Isepunye @ Jun 9 2011, 03:10 AM)
editing with this screen? can or cannot? all seem kantoi la my pict. soft and bla bla bla bla
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I think pic soft is more towards focusing error of the photographer / equipment. Any reasonably good LCD should be able to show you if your pics are soft especially when you yourself have the original files.

The monitor you use would determine if the WB used is correct. Just have the monitor calibrated and your output should be fine.

QUOTE(razuryza @ Jun 9 2011, 03:20 AM)
i dont know bout the mb-d11, but from the mb-d10 photo the seller posted, how come the serial number is same with others selling on ebay?
try here: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/New-Nikon-MB-D10-D10...2780507&afsrc=1


Added on June 9, 2011, 3:21 amhere the case also:
http://www.talkphotography.co.uk/forums/sh...ad.php?t=310315
Sometimes bulk sellers use the same photos they can get off from the internet. Just a typical photo of the product. Especially when the seller is doing volume sales. If the seller is selling his own personal items, then I would suspect the item if they have the same equipment serial number from another website.

QUOTE(hihi @ Jun 9 2011, 09:47 AM)
I personel pm him and he said everything is same as MB-D10 and the only different is dont have magnesium alloy body.
That's not original then. wink.gif

QUOTE(aldosoesilo @ Jun 9 2011, 09:55 AM)
Thanks bro.. smile.gif
actually when we say about skin tones I'd say it's more to people preference some people like it to be pale.
some like to be realistic. some like to show the wrinkle.
and I can only smile smile.gif
When talking about skintones, for me the colour needs to be realistic to be correct. I don't care too much if I can see pimples but the tone needs to be correct under a given lighting.
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You still have the D90? What lenses do you already have?

If you already got the required lenses, upgrading to a D7000 would be a great step. D300s if you're into wildlife photography where AF performance is more important. Or perhaps if you have the necessary FX lenses, you could skip those two bodies and head up straight to a D700 body that wold reward you in abundance.

If not, investing in a proper lens like the 14-24 or the 24-70 would be ideal for your photography interest.
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QUOTE(junior5417 @ Jun 9 2011, 04:15 PM)
d300 is a fx body? i tot its a dx body tongue.gif  tongue.gif
Errr, did I mention D300 as FX? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(chongkiatz @ Jun 9 2011, 06:52 PM)
D90 to D7000 actually just like an Camry 2006 upgrade to 2009 which have the keyless function , an upgrade also , just within the range
OT: Since when Camry 2009 got keyless function?

QUOTE(0168257061 @ Jun 9 2011, 10:16 PM)
Nikon - the camera that is not rubber friendly laugh.gif
How you guys use your camera lah? Touch wood but I've never needed to replace any oof the rubbers on my Nikon bodies.

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