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post May 20 2005, 09:37 PM, updated 21y ago

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1. Tell me about yourself.
2. What did you most enjoy about your last job?
3. How would your colleagues or supervisor describe you?
4. What can you offer us that other people cannot?
5. What about this job attracts you? What is unattractive?
6. How long do you see yourself with us?
7. How would you describe an ideal working environment?

Standard interview questions might not seem difficult, but your answer to each should be polished and sharp. Craft responses and practice them before your interview so that they roll off your tongue when you face the interviewer. Effective responses answer questions honestly, positively, and briefly, highlighting important qualities and accomplishments that are relevant to the position at hand. Give examples to illustrate and corroborate your statements when possible. Your responses should work together, making connections between what you have previously done, the available position, and your goals.



Tell me about yourself.
Ineffective: I am a hard-worker who is good with numbers. After I worked as a financial analyst for a few years, I decided to go to law school. I just finished and now am looking for a new challenge.

Effective: I began developing skills relevant to financial planning when I worked as a financial analyst for three years. In that role, I succeeded in multiplying the wealth of my clients by carefully analyzing the market for trends. The return on the portfolios I managed was generally 2% more than most of the portfolios managed by my company. My initiative, planning, and analytic skills were rewarded by two promotions. As the manager of a team, I successfully led them to develop a more efficient and profitable strategy for dealing with new accounts. My subsequent training in the law, including tax law and estate law, gives me an informed view of what types of investments and charitable gifts would be most advantageous for your clients.


What did you most enjoy about your last job?
Ineffective: I liked lots of things-the people, the challenge, the rewards. Sometimes we had to work long hours, but it always seemed to pay off.

Effective: Of the many things that I enjoyed, I would say that the strategic aspects of my job most energized me. I liked setting concrete performance goals for myself and finding ways to meet them. I similarly enjoyed analyzing markets for trends and identifying when would be the most beneficial time to enter or withdraw from certain funds. When I was a manager, my team and I developed a new approach to accounts that became a standard for the company. Strategizing gave my work a sense of tangible direction and accomplishment.


How would your colleagues or supervisor describe you?
Ineffective: I guess they would say that I am a hard worker who is successful.

Effective: My supervisor and colleagues have described me as a dependable worker. My supervisor has appreciated that I prioritize tasks and manage my responsibilities so that she can rely on me. My bosses tell me I have a sixth sense for markets and I learn new information and procedures quickly. These skills account for my two promotions in three years. My boss was also impressed by how I was able to lead my team.


What can you offer us that other people cannot?
Ineffective: I have a unique combination of skills. I also really want the job.

Effective: I have a track-record of multiplying wealth through investments and developing strategies with teams. Since I have a JD, I also know what legal parameters and loopholes affect families and individuals planning their finances. My CFA training not only shows that I will succeed in the CFP courses, but also gives me a broader view of why financial plans work as they do. Since I am organized and self-motivated, I will add value to the company without requiring much tending and supervision.


What about this job attracts you? What is unattractive?
Ineffective: I like that it is in the field I am targeting. I don't like the commute that it will require.

Effective: As I evaluate my skills and goals, this job maximizes on both. I will be able to merge my knowledge of law and markets while strategizing for the sound financial future of clients. Since this is a small company, I imagine that there will be opportunity for increased responsibilities and challenges. I share the values of the company. I am not eager to do much data processing, but the position is very attractive.


How long do you see yourself with us?
Ineffective: I don't want to make any hasty commitments, and I like to keep my options open. Maybe I will be here for one year, maybe for five. It depends.

Effective: I see myself here as long as we both think that I am contributing to the vitality of the company while still being grown through challenges.


How would you describe an ideal working environment?
Ineffective: A laptop and cell phone on a beach sound ideal to me. Short of that, I would like an environment in which I am able to work as I please, without much supervision.

Effective: It is important to me that my company has clear objectives and strives for success. Similarly, I like having colleagues whom I admire for their skills and perspectives. When communication is clear between colleagues, our energy becomes synergy. In addition, I find that I flourish when given discretion after having gained the trust of my supervisor.

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Thank you...This is really helpful...hahaha....I got this question asked frequently...

Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

Normally i'll tell them about my plans and I make sure my plans wun venture away from the job I am applying or makes them sound like I'll juz be working with them in short term....

Is this the proper way?
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What is your strength and weakness?
My answer : My strength is that I am willing to learn and work and I can go far if you give me this oppurtunity. My weakness is my due to my lack of experience since I am a freshie but I will not hesitate to learn from others. (do not brag too much. And try to cover when telling about your weakness)

What do you know about this company?
Very common question. So read about the company's latest news and developement before going to the interview.

So, here's 2 questions I was always ask when going to interviews. Some interviewer might get too creative and ask weird questions...so be prepare. LOL

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QUOTE(JobListed @ May 20 2005, 09:37 PM)
1. Tell me about yourself.
2. What did you most enjoy about your last job?
3. How would your colleagues or supervisor describe you?
4. What can you offer us that other people cannot?
5. What about this job attracts you? What is unattractive?
6. How long do you see yourself with us?
7. How would you describe an ideal working environment?

Standard interview questions might not seem difficult, but your answer to each should be polished and sharp. Craft responses and practice them before your interview so that they roll off your tongue when you face the interviewer. Effective responses answer questions honestly, positively, and briefly, highlighting important qualities and accomplishments that are relevant to the position at hand. Give examples to illustrate and corroborate your statements when possible. Your responses should work together, making connections between what you have previously done, the available position, and your goals.



Tell me about yourself.
Ineffective: I am a hard-worker who is good with numbers. After I worked as a financial analyst for a few years, I decided to go to law school. I just finished and now am looking for a new challenge.

Effective: I began developing skills relevant to financial planning when I worked as a financial analyst for three years. In that role, I succeeded in multiplying the wealth of my clients by carefully analyzing the market for trends. The return on the portfolios I managed was generally 2% more than most of the portfolios managed by my company. My initiative, planning, and analytic skills were rewarded by two promotions. As the manager of a team, I successfully led them to develop a more efficient and profitable strategy for dealing with new accounts. My subsequent training in the law, including tax law and estate law, gives me an informed view of what types of investments and charitable gifts would be most advantageous for your clients.
What did you most enjoy about your last job?
Ineffective: I liked lots of things-the people, the challenge, the rewards. Sometimes we had to work long hours, but it always seemed to pay off.

Effective: Of the many things that I enjoyed, I would say that the strategic aspects of my job most energized me. I liked setting concrete performance goals for myself and finding ways to meet them. I similarly enjoyed analyzing markets for trends and identifying when would be the most beneficial time to enter or withdraw from certain funds. When I was a manager, my team and I developed a new approach to accounts that became a standard for the company. Strategizing gave my work a sense of tangible direction and accomplishment.
How would your colleagues or supervisor describe you?
Ineffective: I guess they would say that I am a hard worker who is successful.

Effective: My supervisor and colleagues have described me as a dependable worker. My supervisor has appreciated that I prioritize tasks and manage my responsibilities so that she can rely on me. My bosses tell me I have a sixth sense for markets and I learn new information and procedures quickly. These skills account for my two promotions in three years. My boss was also impressed by how I was able to lead my team.
What can you offer us that other people cannot?
Ineffective: I have a unique combination of skills. I also really want the job.

Effective: I have a track-record of multiplying wealth through investments and developing strategies with teams. Since I have a JD, I also know what legal parameters and loopholes affect families and individuals planning their finances. My CFA training not only shows that I will succeed in the CFP courses, but also gives me a broader view of why financial plans work as they do. Since I am organized and self-motivated, I will add value to the company without requiring much tending and supervision.
What about this job attracts you? What is unattractive?
Ineffective: I like that it is in the field I am targeting. I don't like the commute that it will require.

Effective: As I evaluate my skills and goals, this job maximizes on both. I will be able to merge my knowledge of law and markets while strategizing for the sound financial future of clients. Since this is a small company, I imagine that there will be opportunity for increased responsibilities and challenges. I share the values of the company. I am not eager to do much data processing, but the position is very attractive.
How long do you see yourself with us?
Ineffective: I don't want to make any hasty commitments, and I like to keep my options open. Maybe I will be here for one year, maybe for five. It depends.

Effective: I see myself here as long as we both think that I am contributing to the vitality of the company while still being grown through challenges.
How would you describe an ideal working environment?
Ineffective: A laptop and cell phone on a beach sound ideal to me. Short of that, I would like an environment in which I am able to work as I please, without much supervision.

Effective: It is important to me that my company has clear objectives and strives for success. Similarly, I like having colleagues whom I admire for their skills and perspectives. When communication is clear between colleagues, our energy becomes synergy. In addition, I find that I flourish when given discretion after having gained the trust of my supervisor.
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post May 21 2005, 12:12 PM

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Template answers are huge turnoff for employers esp when you do not even mean it.

Q: I'm not going to hire you, do you know why?

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post May 21 2005, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(Kii @ May 21 2005, 11:23 AM)
What is your strength and weakness?
And try to cover when telling about your weakness)
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Do you really think covering up your weaknesses will make them go away? The interviewer knows more about the company and position and is in a position to assess if your weaknesses will affect your success at the company. It is in your interest not to be in a position where you are unlikely to succeed given your weaknesses. Alternatively, the interviewer may realize that you are more suited to another position, possibly even a better position.

Your weaknesses will be discovered later on by your employer so there is little reason to hide or cover them up. Be honest and explain your any weaknesses that may be relevant to the job. You do not need to share non-relevant weaknesses such as your addiction to chocolate or anime unless you think it may affect your job.
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QUOTE(Geminist @ May 21 2005, 06:58 AM)
Thank you...This is really helpful...hahaha....I got this question asked frequently...

Where do you see yourself in 10 years?

Normally i'll tell them about my plans and I make sure my plans wun venture away from the job I am applying or makes them sound like I'll juz be working with them in short term....

Is this the proper way?
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You are welcome. biggrin.gif

If you tell them regarding your plan and you are just be working with them in short term only, they will hire you too if they need you but they will not put more attention on you, exspecially they will not increase your salary. Right?

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QUOTE(janxs @ May 21 2005, 12:10 PM)
Well done...thanks for sharing! Appreciated!  biggrin.gif  notworthy.gif  thumbup.gif  wink.gif
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You are welcome. Below is some tips for Interview

. Be punctual
. Introduce yourself in a courteous manner and remember to smile,smlile smile!
. Read company materials while you wait.
. give a firm handshake.
. Use body language to show interest.
. Smile, nod, give nonverbal feedback to the interviewer.
. Ask about the next step in the process.
. Thank the interviewer.
. Write a thank-you letter to anyone you have spoken to.


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i was asked by an interviewer this question;

"so basically thats what u need to do if u are hired, this not an interesting job but rather a boring job, do u think this is the job that u looking for? do u think u can suit urself with this kins of job?"


* the position offered was system support and monitoring. the job is basically just sit there and monitor the server, if got problem occurs just write the problem's detail and call the system engineer to solve the problem.

anyone have any idea how to answe this question?
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QUOTE(wenloong78 @ May 21 2005, 02:52 PM)
i was asked by an interviewer this question;

"so basically thats what u need to do if u are hired, this not an interesting job but rather a boring job, do u think this is the job that u looking for? do u think u can suit urself with this kins of job?"
* the position offered was system support and monitoring. the job is basically just sit there and monitor the server, if got problem occurs just write the problem's detail and call the system engineer to solve the problem.

anyone have any idea how to answe this question?
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What do they ask before this question? Seem like you did some mistake in the previous questions that they asked.

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QUOTE(JobListed @ May 21 2005, 02:45 PM)
You are welcome. Below is some tips for Interview

. Be punctual
. Introduce yourself in a courteous manner and remember to smile,smlile smile!
. Read company materials while you wait.
. give a firm handshake. 
. Use body language to show interest.
. Smile, nod, give nonverbal feedback to the interviewer.
. Ask about the next step in the process.
. Thank the interviewer.
. Write a thank-you letter to anyone you have spoken to.
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Try to arrive at the company 30 minutes before the interview. Normally they require you to fill up interview form. eg if they ask u to come at 10am, try to reach there by 9:30am
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Below is some dificult questions during Interview

1. What are your weaknesses?
2. Why did you leave your last job?
3. How do you deal with criticism?
4. Where do you see yourself in ten years?
5. How do you deal with authority?
6. What do you think of your previous manager?
7. What is the riskiest thing you have ever done?

Be confident and speak with a clear and convincing voice. Don't panic and squirm uncomfortably. As you prepare responses before the interview, consider what information the questions seek: are there ways in which you would be a liability to the company? If the company invests in you, what kinds of things would it need to overcome? Are you the kind of person who can deal with things when they get rough, or are you pure gloss?

In answering sensitive questions, make sure that your answers are honest, but reassuring. Use tact and choose your words carefully so that you show respect for other people in your responses. You should usually use understatement in your reply to sensitive questions. When people hear something bad, they tend to focus on it in a way that is out of proportion to its significance in everyday life. If you say that you are not always organized, the interviewer could imagine your desk with papers strewn everywhere and deadlines missed. But in reality your conception of disorganization might look a lot like the interviewer's conception of organization. In addition, most of the interviewer's questions could be answered honestly in a variety of ways. You want to choose the version of the truth that is most appealing and sensitive--the version that helps support your main message.


What are your weaknesses?
Overemphasized: I am not a good manager.

Avoidant: I always get my work done on time. When other people drop the ball, sometimes I get frustrated with them.

Effective: I prioritize continual growth and improvement. An area on which I would like to focus is managing others who have different expectations from me. What needs to be done in order to complete responsibilities is intuitive for me, so I am learning how to give better direction to others who are not self-motivated.


Why did you leave your last job?
Vague and negative: Law always interested me, and I was looking for a new challenge. I thought it would be a good time to go to law school. Besides, I had gotten frustrated with the lack of support I felt at work.

Dangerous: In the end, my manager and I could not get along. He was driving me crazy and I needed to leave.

Effective: As I succeeded in financial analysis, I became increasingly interested in broader issues of managing money. I wanted to understand how legal regulations and individuals' goals affect decisions about how to manage money. When I gained entrance to my top choice in law school, I seized the opportunity to infuse my financial training with legal knowledge.


How do you deal with criticism?
Disrespectful: When I remember the source, I usually realize that the other person is in no position to criticize me.

Unbelievable: Criticism does not bother me at all.

Effective: Criticism is vital to my continued growth, and I welcome constructive criticism that helps a team operate better together or produce better results. It is important to me to understand where my critic is coming from so that I know how to apply the feedback.


Where do you see yourself in ten years?
Dismissive: Living in a boat off the coast of Bermuda.

Exploitative: I hope to have gained enough skills here to start my own company.

Scattered: In ten years, I imagine that I will want a change of scene. One of my long-term interests has been ecological protection, and I can see myself working as a spokesman for a lobbyist organization. First, though, I need to make some money and I want to contribute to your company.

Effective: In ten years, I endeavor to have refined my strategic and client relations skills. I intend to be a leading expert in estate planning. After having proven myself as a senior manager, I hope to help shape the strategic direction of estate planning services. I could do this in any number of official roles. The important thing is that I will continue contributing my abilities in a challenging and rewarding environment.


How do you deal with authority?
Concerning: I think it is important to question authority from time to time.

Frightening: In my last job, there was a time when my boss made a financial decision that I knew would be abysmal. I went directly to his superior to explain the problem. His superior agreed that I was right, and my boss had to alter his plan.

Effective: Respect is very important to me. As an employee, I try to respect my boss not only by following her guidance, but also by seeking her guidance. When a trusting relationship is formed, I have often found that my bosses have appreciated concerns or options that I raised to them. They know that I support them, and I know that they respect me.


What do you think of your previous manager?
Evasive: She did her job fine. She was a pretty nice person.

Disrespectful: She knew her stuff, but she did not give my colleagues or me any real guidance. It is like we were fending for ourselves. She rarely stood up for us either. I do not really think she should be a manager.

Effective: My previous manager had excellent technical skills and was very agreeable as a colleague. I would have liked more support from her at times, but her hands-off style meant that I had to become resourceful in problem solving and negotiating with colleagues.


What is the riskiest thing you have ever done?
Too much information: My wife and I conceived our first child in front of the police department.

Dangerous judgment: I play chicken with trains.

Effective: The greatest calculated risk that I have taken was to launch my own internet company. My idea was solid, but I knew the market was volatile. Even though the venture ended, my investment of time and money paid off in terms of the skills, perspectives, and contacts that I made through the process. I feel like I matured-rather than aged-ten years during that time.



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QUOTE(JobListed @ May 21 2005, 03:13 PM)
What do they ask before this question? Seem like you did some mistake in the previous questions that they asked.
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before this she asked me whether i know the scope of this job or not. i told her i know as i read it from the job advertisment. then she straight assume that that job is a boring job, i dint even mention the word 'boring' in front of her before she asked that question.


then i replied her that the word 'boring' has different defination to different kind of people, example is some people feel programmng is a challenging and interesting job to attempt but some find it boring as it only deals with coding. another example is some body can sit in front of a pc and spent 4-5 hours to surf in the internet while somebody cant sit in fornt of a computer more than 30 minutes. this is up to the person attitude and interest. u feel it boring doesnt mean other ppl feel boring to it.

any comments to my reply? is it abit rude? especially the last sentence. i think it is abit rude to say the last sentence.

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QUOTE(wenloong78 @ May 21 2005, 05:01 PM)
before this she asked me whether i know the scope of this job or not. i told her i know as i read it from the job advertisment. then she straight assume that that job is a boring job, i dint even mention the word 'boring' in front of her before she asked that question.
then i replied her that the word 'boring' has different defination to different kind of people, example is some people feel programmng is a challenging and interesting job to attempt but some find it boring as it only deals with coding. another example is some body can sit in front of a pc and spent 4-5 hours to surf in the internet while somebody cant sit in fornt of a computer more than 30 minutes. this is up to the person attitude and interest. u feel it boring doesnt mean other ppl feel boring to it.

any comments to my reply? is it abit rude? especially the last sentence. i think it is abit rude to say the last sentence.
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My point of view is she will not hire you. You did a big mistake in the interview. When she ask you regarding whether you know the scope of this job or not, you should answer according, not mention that you get the info regarding this job function from the job advertisement. Try to learn from your mistake.

Additional, you can not mention that "you feel it boring doesnt mean other ppl feel boring to it too". This is too rude. biggrin.gif The tip here is you must show your interest for this job during your interview.
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post May 22 2005, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(jsm @ May 21 2005, 12:19 PM)
Do you really think covering up your weaknesses will make them go away?  The interviewer knows more about the company and position and is in a position to assess if your weaknesses will affect your success at the company.  It is in your interest not to be in a position where you are unlikely to succeed given your weaknesses.  Alternatively, the interviewer may realize that you are more suited to another position, possibly even a better position.

Your weaknesses will be discovered later on by your employer so there is little reason to hide or cover them up.  Be honest and explain your any weaknesses that may be relevant to the job.  You do not need to share non-relevant weaknesses such as your addiction to chocolate or anime unless you think it may affect your job.
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Covering the weakness by telling something good instead to back up. I did not say lie or hide about the weakness. Everybody has their weakness and interviewer ask question like this to see if we're brave enough to admit.
Backing up weaknesses like this way...
Examples:
*I'm not too keen with computer's application but I'm thinking of taking part time courses to improve.
*Although I don't have much experience in this field but I think it's really interesting and I am willing to learn.
*Since I'm a fresh graduate, lack of experience is my weakness but I won't hesitate to ask and learn from others.

BTW, to be over-honest is not really necessary in interviews...I don't think by telling them something like 'I tend to be always late for work' or 'I have really hot temper' will earn you any honesty points.

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HI Kii,

Just an interesting test.. What would you say of you get this response...

QUOTE(Kii @ May 22 2005, 02:41 PM)
*I'm not too keen with computer's application but I'm thinking of taking part time courses to improve.

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So, what you are saying is you have not taken any concrete step to address this weakness now. What makes you think you will do anything different in the future??

QUOTE(Kii @ May 22 2005, 02:41 PM)
*Although I don't have much experience in this field but I think it's really interesting and I am willing to learn.

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So, since you say you think this field is interesting, please tell me what you done so far to learn more about this interesting field??

QUOTE(Kii @ May 22 2005, 02:41 PM)
*Since I'm a fresh graduate, lack of experience is my weakness but I won't hesitate to ask and learn from others. 


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Heh, I had interviewed quite a few fresh graduates and they had taken the trouble to get some exposure to this area in spite of their heavy study schedule. Why you have not done the same?? If you were not motivated to learn on your own in the past, why should I believe that you will act differently in the future??

Please noted that I had lived and worked in USA for a long time. So, I am very Americanized. If you apply to work in some companies that are American culture based, you may get this kind of response to your answers...

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Hi,

Some time, the best and correct answer is "I do not know" instead trying to B.S. someone...

This is a very normal technique that I used when I interview some new people and trying to decide whether to work with someone.. I will ask question after question until the level of technicality of the question reach to a point that I know the person will not know the answer. Then, at that point, from the answer, I will know whether the person has the integrity or honesty of telling me the truth aka "I do not know". If the person will not tell you the truth when he/she do not know the answer, I either will not work with the person or I will be very careful on anything that I hear from the person.

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Actually I think b4 an interview, it is important to do some homework on the job I am applying to... I think the most important part of interview is to show the employer we hv done some homework b4.. Am i right?

Anyways, another question I frequently came across here is... What kind of person you can't actually get along with??

I always tell them I can't work with irresponsible kind of ppl.. but after some thoughts... I figured, should we tell them I can't work with xxx and yyy type of ppl.. Or should we tell them, I hv no problem working with anyone... Unless they really dislike me...

Another thing I wanna ask is, should we remain serious during the interview or should we smile often? Even when answering question??

Cuz I hv a tendency of smiling all the time...
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QUOTE(Geminist @ May 22 2005, 06:39 PM)
Actually I think b4 an interview, it is important to do some homework on the job I am applying to... I think the most important part of interview is to show the employer we hv done some homework b4.. Am i right?

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Whether you done your homework on the particular job, it will show up on the interview.. Preparation is important...

QUOTE(Geminist @ May 22 2005, 06:39 PM)

Anyways, another question I frequently came across here is... What kind of person you can't actually get along with??

I always tell them I can't work with irresponsible kind of ppl.. but after some thoughts... I figured, should we tell them I can't work with xxx and yyy type of ppl.. Or should we tell them, I hv no problem working with anyone... Unless they really dislike me...

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The answer is the goal is to get the job done.. I will find a way to get the job regardless of what kind of person that I work with.. Getting along is irrelevant..

What should you care whether someone like you or not?? It is a job and you get pay.. In fact, some time, people liking each other make the job a lot of harder..


QUOTE(Geminist @ May 22 2005, 06:39 PM)

Another thing I wanna ask is, should we remain serious during the interview or should we smile often? Even when answering question??

Cuz I hv a tendency of smiling all the time...
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Be yourself. If someone cannot stand you smiling all the time, let's find out during the interview as opposed after you work on the job for a while..

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 22 2005, 03:16 PM)
HI Kii,

Just an interesting test.. What would you say of you get this response...
So, what you are saying is you have not taken any concrete step to address this weakness now.  What makes you think you will do anything different in the future??

My answer will be : What I know is very basic computer knowledge and if that's not efficient enough to do my work, and if my work requires me to know more, yes, I will do something about it and take up a course to improve.

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So, since you say you think this field is interesting, please tell me what you done so far to learn more about this interesting field??

My answer will be : By joining this company is the best way to indulge more in this field. It's only up to you whether to give me this opportunity to learn or not.

QUOTE(dreamer101 @ May 22 2005, 03:16 PM)
Heh, I had interviewed quite a few fresh graduates and they had taken the trouble to get some exposure to this area in spite of their heavy study schedule. Why you have not done the same?? If you were not motivated to learn on your own in the past, why should I believe that you will act differently in the future??

My answer will be : Not everyone has the same opportunity to access their own field of interest. But I've been exposed to other area such as plastic industry and quality management.

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Please noted that I had lived and worked in USA for a long time.  So, I am very Americanized. If you apply to work in some companies that are American culture based, you may get this kind of response to your answers...

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Yes, Americanized or not we should all be prepare to be criticized. I'd gone through a 3 hours interview aka debating session. Torturing...really torturing. sweat.gif

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Hi,

Some time, the best and correct answer is "I do not know" instead trying to B.S. someone...

This is a very normal technique that I used when I interview some new people and trying to decide whether to work with someone.. I will ask question after question until the level of technicality of the question reach to a point that I know the person will not know the answer.  Then, at that point, from the answer, I will know whether the person has the integrity or honesty of telling me the truth aka "I do not know".  If the person will not tell you the truth when he/she do not know the answer, I either will not work with the person or I will be very careful on anything that I hear from the person.

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Yes. Very true. We might not realize but the interviewer will know and we'll look really stupid and desperate trying to answer something we have no idea at.
There was one time when the interviewer asked me 'Do you know anything about our line assembly process?'. And I was like.... blink.gif and thought that I was going to flunk this interview because this seem like such an important question. I could not say anything but 'I do not know'. unsure.gif
But the interviewer was kind enough to explain to me step by step their assembly process. Whoa...it's really complicated to me and there's no way I could know the answer unless I work at the line. And so now the interviewer is my boss biggrin.gif



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Actually I think b4 an interview, it is important to do some homework on the job I am applying to... I think the most important part of interview is to show the employer we hv done some homework b4.. Am i right?

Anyways, another question I frequently came across here is... What kind of person you can't actually get along with??

I always tell them I can't work with irresponsible kind of ppl.. but after some thoughts... I figured, should we tell them I can't work with xxx and yyy type of ppl.. Or should we tell them, I hv no problem working with anyone... Unless they really dislike me...

Another thing I wanna ask is, should we remain serious during the interview or should we smile often? Even when answering question??

Cuz I hv a tendency of smiling all the time...
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Not smile often/always during the interview, smile when you answer the particular question.

The most important thing is to show your interest for the company and show them that you are the one that they need. biggrin.gif
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wahhahah.... i've answer half of the question wrong in my interview recently...
heheh... i just talk without much thinking though...

get no reply until today...
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Oh... thanks... Its juz that,I really smile alot... I am someone who can smile even being scolded at.. so I got complaints from ppl b4, saying I dun take my job seriously and etc.... Actually I did take my job seriously... Juz that I smile alot.... Tat's y...aahha...

Will be going for my internship interview this week... Hopefully it 'll go well...
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Oh... thanks... Its juz that,I really smile alot... I am someone who can smile even being scolded at.. so I got complaints from ppl b4, saying I dun take my job seriously and etc.... Actually I did take my job seriously... Juz that I smile alot.... Tat's y...aahha...

Will be going for my internship interview this week... Hopefully it 'll go well...
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Hi there joblisted and dreamer, do you hv a few minutes to spare?

Actually I am an undergrad now I have been applying for internship here in UK for a very long time.. I hv been getting no response previously although I hv submitted 10s of application.. however, for those jobs that needs a cover letter, I get response back from back and they even arranged any interview ... I am juz curious can you review my cover letter so that I noe what is attracting them? Then I can emphasize more on that point?

I juz do some simple mod to my CV so I dun think my CV is the main attraction for them.. thanks !!
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A) Actually, IMHO, who you know make a hell of difference than anything else.. Why don't you contact people that are your senior and it is currently working now to see whether there is any internship opportunity??

cool.gif Are you in good term with any of you lecturer/professor?? If yes, can they introduce you to some where for an internship??

C) "What color is your parachute" is a very good book for job hunting.. You should go to library and pick up a copy to read...

I am not a strong believer in cover letter and CV/Resume.. I had worked for 20 years and only one out of the ten jobs that I found is through responding to advertisement with cover letter and CV/Resume...

Anyhow, if you want me to review your copver letter and CXV/Resume, just send me an message and inclue the CV and cover letter in the message via this forum.. But, as I said again, I am Americanized so my style may not fit the UK style of companies..

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Erm, I dun hv much senior frens here in UK... most of them is my frens.. However, I do believe u're right, having contacts in the company makes life ezier...

Regardless, the system here is that, you hv to do everything yourself for looking for an intern... haha....

Hmm, actually I think, the only thing I can do now for an undergrad applying a placement is through CV, cuz those companies I believe, the first thing they do to skim down the numbers of applicants is through reviewing their CV and Cover Letter...

UK or American its ok.. We must welcome various kind of opinion ma, right? Tat way its the best way to improve...
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Erm, I dun hv much senior frens here in UK... most of them is my frens.. However, I do believe u're right, having contacts in the company makes life ezier...

Regardless, the system here is that, you hv to do everything yourself for looking for an intern... haha....

Hmm, actually I think, the only thing I can do now for an undergrad applying a placement is through CV, cuz those companies I believe, the first thing they do to skim down the numbers of applicants is through reviewing their CV and Cover Letter...

UK or American its ok.. We must welcome various kind of opinion ma, right? Tat way its the best way to improve...
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Geminist,

Please kindly re-edit your CV and write more regarding :

1) Your practical and/or Industrial Training (duration - company - job description in detail - reference)
2) Full-time & Part-time Jobs that relevant to the application of job

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Regardless, the system here is that, you hv to do everything yourself for looking for an intern... haha....

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Yes... After hearing ur statement, I have been cracking my head prepraring for the interview tomolo.. I wish to stand out in the crowd and not just give common answer. So far, for everything I will be saying in the interview, I will give an example to back up my statements.

Such as if I say I am good in xx area, I will give example wut I hv done in this area and etc.... (thanks to joblisted and dreamer reminding me of how bad my cover letter is...)

Besides, I hv also dug up the company's history,revenue, objective, main customer, current CEO and etc and memorize all of them...

Dug out information regarding the branch I'll be working at...

Read all the technical things which they might be asking me...

However, I am still thinking how does I stand out and get myself notice.. I am not an extremely smart student or someone who is very very good in something.... hmmm.... Because I believe most of the people would be preparing for those things above....
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Because I believe most of the people would be preparing for those things above....

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You are wrong!!! Most people are lazy and they never come prepared for a job interview..

Hard working and motivated type always beat the smart and lazy type..

There is a famous quote..

"The world is full of talented failures"

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Yes... After hearing ur statement, I have been cracking my head prepraring for the interview tomolo.. I wish to stand out in the crowd and not just give common answer. So far, for everything I will be saying in the interview, I will give an example to back up my statements.

Such as if I say I am good in xx area, I will give example wut I hv done in this area and etc.... (thanks to joblisted and dreamer reminding me of how bad my cover letter is...)

Besides, I hv also dug up the company's history,revenue, objective, main customer, current CEO and etc and memorize all of them...

Dug out information regarding the branch I'll be working at...

Read all the technical things which they might be asking me...

However, I am still thinking how does I stand out and get myself notice.. I am not an extremely smart student or someone who is very very good in something.... hmmm.... Because I believe most of the people would be preparing for those things above....
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Geminist,

Employers want intelligent and enthusiastic individuals who can organise and plan their work and interact with others effectively. Some of these skills are already honed in the university or college, but others will need to be developed outside your studies. Your applications will be more convincing if you can point to a range of situations in which you developed the skills the employers seek and make yourself more employable.

The top listed skills the employers seek as below :
. Self-awareness.
. Self-promotion
. Exploring opportunities.
. Action planning.
. Matching and decision-making.
. Development focus.
. Transfer skills.
. Self-confidence.

Good luck and all the best.

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Yea, juz got back from the interview.. TO my suprise, the lady told us out of so many applications, only 5 were selected for the interview.... And I am still quick surprised how I got the interview in the first place...

Anyways, the interview went pretty well for the 2nd half, as for the first half, due to all those formalities, I was quite nervous despite I have been practising in front of the mirror yesterday... And some questions, i can answer them better but I didn't.. well, we learn from experience...

Hmm, they are all very friendly people and they told me they are surprise d by me that I did so much research on HP.. (their previous CEO which is Fiorina, current CEO, revenue for the past few years, the business partner, they core business, how many branch they have and etc... ) They told me I done quite a good job for doing some "homework" (They really told me "well, u did ur homework huh...")

I didn't answer that well for some of the question because I still feel alittle bit nervous.. On the 2nd half of the interview which is the technical part, another 2 person interviewed me and they only asked me some basic question.... However, some of the question I didn't answer that correct...haiks....But then again, in my CV I included some of the other curricular activities such as I am learning on my own some simple japanese and I told them something about the cultures in japan such as japs are very loyal and they wan to be treated with respect.. (then to another surprise, they told me I am right as one of the main business partner is japs....)

THe interview went pretty well and its not that serious, they did joke around with me and I did joke around abit with them (I dunno its appropriate or not when thinking back now.....I smile alot too ..)

And I think its very important to be honest cuz I directly tell them I am not good in ee stuff and they also didn't make any fuss out of that...

Generally, I think this interview really is very helpful, I learnt alot of things from them.. Regardless of I get the interview or not, I really learnt alot ... Hopefully the information i shared out will help some one not to make the same mistake..

And dreamer, joblisted, thanks for ur help smile.gif

If u find anything I can improve above, juz tell me, I'll be having another interview with another company soon....
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Yea, juz got back from the interview.. TO my suprise, the lady told us out of so many applications, only 5 were selected for the interview.... And I am still quick surprised how I got the interview in the first place...

Anyways, the interview went pretty well for the 2nd half, as for the first half, due to all those formalities, I was quite nervous despite I have been practising in front of the mirror yesterday... And some questions, i can answer them better but I didn't.. well, we learn from experience...

Hmm, they are all very friendly people and they told me they are surprise d by me that I did so much research on HP.. (their previous CEO which is Fiorina, current CEO, revenue for the past few years, the business partner, they core business, how many branch they have and etc... ) They told me I done quite a good job for doing some "homework" (They really told me "well, u did ur homework huh...")

I didn't answer that well for some of the question because I still feel alittle  bit nervous.. On the 2nd half of the interview which is the technical part, another 2 person interviewed me and they only asked me some basic question.... However, some of the question I didn't answer that correct...haiks....But then again, in my CV I included some of the other curricular activities such as I am learning on my own some simple japanese and I told them something about the cultures in japan such as japs are very loyal and they wan to be treated with respect.. (then to another surprise, they told me I am right as one of the main business partner is japs....)

THe interview went pretty well and its not that serious, they did joke around with me and I did joke around abit with them (I dunno its appropriate or not when thinking back now.....I smile alot too ..)

And I think its very important to be honest cuz I directly tell them I am not good in ee stuff and they also didn't make any fuss out of that...

Generally, I think this interview really is very helpful, I learnt alot of things from them.. Regardless of I get the interview or not, I really learnt alot ... Hopefully the information i shared out will help some one not to make the same mistake..

And dreamer, joblisted, thanks for ur help smile.gif

If u find anything I can improve above, juz tell me, I'll be having another interview with another company soon....
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If you hit it off with some of the interviewer, did you ask for their business card?? If they ask why, you can say regardless of whether you get this job or not, you would like to stay in contact and get some advice about this industry. Ask them whether this will be okay...

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Actually I was taking a bath juz now and a question strikes my head...

*sorry arr, me really is a problem child...

Anyways, from an employer POV, I have told them that beside I noe the things in my studies, I have also written some program and done some extra reading and even taken the step to learn some simple japanese language... And they didn't ask for any prove regarding the things I mentioned above...

Why izzit like that? They juz trust wut a person say like that?? I am curious why isn't it required for me to prove to them I actually noe the things mentioned above? I can juz lie that I noe xxx and yyy (of course not lying overly la...)
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Actually I was taking a bath juz now and a question strikes my head...

*sorry arr, me really is a problem child...

Anyways, from an employer POV, I have told them that beside I noe the things in my studies, I have also written some program and done some extra reading and even taken the step to learn some simple japanese language... And they didn't ask for any prove regarding the things I mentioned above...

Why izzit like that? They juz trust wut a person say like that?? I am curious why isn't it required for me to prove to them I actually noe the things mentioned above? I can juz lie that I noe xxx and yyy (of course not lying overly la...)
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Two possibilities:

A) You had earned their trust by the way that you presented yourself.. If you are interested in learning more on how to earn trust. Search on "Orange Juice Test" and "Gerald M. Weinberg"

B ) Those items are irrelevant to them aka they do not care..

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Ic, thanks for the info..

Actually I think those items are relevant and in fact, there were quite impresssed that I would spend time learning japanese and programming... I hit right on both spot because I told them something about jap culture which the company has close relationship to, and when I mentioned programming, they told me they are actually looking for someone who has some programming knowledge and appreciate programming (its not written in the job requirement though)...

I guess they way I answer their question when they ask me regarding these above matter are quite ensuring for them...

I do not dare to put high hopes in the HP job application but truthfully, I do hope they will give me a chance to work with them... I tried my best in my interview edi by doing all the preparations I can...

Thanks for the site, will look it up now...
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I have a question: Is that the interviewer expect the candidates to speaks a lot? 'Coz i had attend an interview, after i tell them my opinion, then i just sit there quietly, and the interviewer ask me: You didnt talk much huh?!
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I think they expect u to talk... Something useful, constructive and not nonsense... So if I hv nothing else to say, I'll juz smile and say, "yea, tat's all"... hahahahahha.........

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Haih.. sad story, juz got my reply for my inter from HP... haih.. why dun they reject me directly? haih....

This is the content of the letter .. haih...
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Unfortunately at present, HP's cost restraints cannot support the hiring of any new employees which includes new interns. We cannot currently make any offers to students, the best we can do is review the situation in a months time.

Please do not take this as a rejection as we felt you were a very strong candidate, but if in the mean time you find another position, please do take the opportunity as we are not sure what the financial status will be after the review.

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for you interest in HP and for attending the interview. It was a pleasure to meet you, good luck in your exams and in finding a suitable intern position.
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Haih.. sad sad sad.... but wut to do..hehe.. life goes on ~~
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I have a question: Is that the interviewer expect the candidates to speaks a lot? 'Coz i had attend an interview, after i tell them my opinion, then i just sit there quietly, and the interviewer ask me: You didnt talk much huh?!
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From my experience, in general, when the interviewer talk more than me (the applicant), I tend to get a job offer..

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Haih.. sad story, juz got my reply for my inter from HP... haih.. why dun they reject me directly? haih....

This is the content of the letter .. haih...
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Unfortunately at present, HP's cost restraints cannot support the hiring of any new employees which includes new interns. We cannot currently make any offers to students, the best we can do is review the situation in a months time. 

Please do not take this as a rejection as we felt you were a very strong candidate, but if in the mean time you find another position, please do take the opportunity as we are not sure what the financial status will be after the review. 

I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for you interest in HP and for attending the interview. It was a pleasure to meet you, good luck in your exams and in finding a suitable intern position. 
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Haih.. sad sad sad.... but wut to do..hehe.. life goes on ~~
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HP is being very professional. Most places will not even send you a rejection lettter ASAP..

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Rich, happy, still doing fun and interesting things...

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From my experience, in general, when the interviewer talk more than me (the applicant), I tend to get a job offer..

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Do you know the logic behind this? Pls share......
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Rich, happy, still doing fun and interesting things...

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You sure this won't impact the impression on the interviewer??
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The interviewer is anxious to "sell" their company to you aka they want to convince you to join them...

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Good company do not want to hire a failure... If you are good, you will be successful.. If the interviewer react negatively to this answer, it means they cannot handle people that are confident and successful. Then, the answer will be do you want to work for this kind of company??

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Thanks Dreamer.

Geminist, dont be so sad, you've already give your best! May be there will be a greater oppurtunity behind, right? Wish you best of luck!!!

I do get a chance to attend a final interview, but i didnt attend as i found that there is so much inconvenience for me, like the salary, the problem to get a house rent, and also the transportation problem, since i found that there have no bus to pass through that area. I am not telling them that i am not going to attend that interview, and they also didnt call me back afterall. I am thinking of wanna send an thank you email to them, but i dont know what kind of content that i should write about, is that i should tell them about my problem? Or i am just let it be that way...?

Well, during the past interview that i am attend, normally they ask me to introduce myself. Well, normally i just tell them my name, age, the University and the which field of my degree holder. I think it's quite less though, so i just talk something about the activities during my school life. Then i just smile to them. From this point, is that i still need to talk another things else? 'Coz sometimes the interviews seems like wait me to continue my story, as i had already finish up my story. Any opinion on that?

Another question: What is your career plan? Oh oh.. How to answer huh?!

Oh my, what a problematic person huh? Hehe^^ However, your opinion would be highly appreciated!!! ^0^
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Well, during the past interview that i am attend, normally they ask me to introduce myself. Well, normally i just tell them my name, age, the University and the which field of my degree holder. I think it's quite less though, so i just talk something about the activities during my school life. Then i just smile to them. From this point, is that i still need to talk another things else? 'Coz sometimes the interviews seems like wait me to continue my story, as i had already finish up my story. Any opinion on that?

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If you do your homework/research, this will be a good time to talk about wehat you know about the company and why you think you can contribute to this company.



QUOTE(cHlOe^Love @ Jun 2 2005, 12:46 AM)

Another question: What is your career plan? Oh oh.. How to answer huh?!

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My answer which may or may not be usable for you is I do not believe in career plan. I believe in capabilities and skills. If I have the capabilities to learn, communicate (listen, talk, and teach), lead, and coach.I will be adaptable to whatever the future holds. I had held 10 different jobs in different area/industries for 20 years. And, that is my philosophy.

A short version will be as long as I know how to make a lot of money for an employer, I wll be employable.. So, my plan is to learn how to make money..

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Hi,

The interviewer is anxious to "sell" their company to you aka they want to convince you to join them...

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not really, coz i attend few interview n the interviewer talk a lot more than me. some both of us even chat chat abt 2 hrs, but finally i also rejected. wat i hear fr internal is, the interviewer actually alrdy choose d candidate, then interview u so long just wan do a show to d other that he did his job... but it is wasting our time if truth.. mad.gif
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If you do your homework/research, this will be a good time to talk about wehat you know about the company and why you think you can contribute to this company.


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Thanks a lot. Well, is that you mean that during they ask me to introduce myself, i should talk about my knowledge about the company as well? Well, I am not really dare to tell what i can contribute to the company, since i am just a freshie, so normally i just tell them that i am willing to learn and do my best on the task assigned, is that ok?

On the last interview, the interviewer ask me what is the different between interpersonal skill and communication skills. I did so bad on talking about differentition, and in the end, i think i just talk about the same things.

From the last interview, i really did so bad as so many question i dont know how to answer, and as predicted, i am not getting an offer.... ;(
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Some thought -

-About yourself
-About your education background
-About your working background
-About your strenght and weakness
-About your leisure that help in undertaking (reading etc)
-About your understanding and your stand against the company
-About your extreme interest to join the company

and there can be other value that you can put in to strenghten your undertaking
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Haha... Thanks for the support....

Went on looking and a company promise to give me an interview after my exam....hahahahahahaha... happy...

Yea, HP is being nice, they could hv juz kept quiet about it....

Actually, I talk alot more than the interviewer....damn..... haha....

Hm... they always ask me a question....

"How do you troubleshoot a problem, lets say something goes wrong in the manufacturing line, how do u troubleshoot it? "

haih.. tough answers.. the answers I gave are logical, but cost wise, its not acceptable cuz my method cost quite a lot...hahaha.. plan to ask my lecturer this question later.. cuz I bet I'll be asked this question again by another company...hahaha
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Did you all had attend for a second interview? What are the common question that the interviewer will ask during the second interview? Since there were so many question being asked during the first interview...
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Second interview will be more on company briefing and usually the HR will be accompany by GM of the company and so on...

That's what I'd encountered so far lar...
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Would like to share my experience.....

I went to one interview for a fabless semiconductor company in Penang, for the position of IC Mask Design engineer.

The interview started with a little bit of standard questions like my current job functions and nothing much. Then, they conducted some sorts of written tests.
They gave me one paper with some engineering problems, and asked me to answer all of them and at the same time they kept staring at me while I was struggling to solve the problems. This indeed exerted certain pressure on me that time.

I did manage to solve most of the problems, but I admit to them certain details that I really did not know.

After the tests, the interview ended. And I did not get any offer.

In retrospect, I think the most likely reason is my current job function and skills is too far from the post I was applying. One of the interviewers did mention this on the phone interview prior to the face to face interview.

I answered the questions in the test all by my memory of final year syllabus, although with a bit of struggle after one and half year working (at the time this interview took place).

Then an interesting event occurred, after the interview, their HR sent an email to me saying that my application failed but my resume is being rettained for future reference. I thought, bah.....same bullsh** to all failed applicants. After one month, another manager called me, but from different department, asked me whether I am interested in other specific post or not. The post is like software support kind of nature. I responded with NO INTEREST.

Huh...I apply job A they gave me job B. doh.gif
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Would like to share my experience.....

I went to one interview for a fabless semiconductor company in Penang, for the position of IC Mask Design engineer.

The interview started with a little bit of standard questions like my current job functions and nothing much. Then, they conducted some sorts of written tests.
They gave me one paper with some engineering problems, and asked me to answer all of them and at the same time they kept staring at me while I was struggling to solve the problems. This indeed exerted certain pressure on me that time.

I did manage to solve most of the problems, but I admit to them certain details that I really did not know.

After the tests, the interview ended. And I did not get any offer.

In retrospect, I think the most likely reason is my current job function and skills is too far from the post I was applying. One of the interviewers did mention this on the phone interview prior to the face to face interview.

I answered the questions in the test all by my memory of final year syllabus, although with a bit of struggle after one and half year working (at the time this interview took place).

Then an interesting event occurred, after the interview, their HR sent an email to me saying that my application failed but my resume is being rettained for future reference. I thought, bah.....same bullsh** to all failed applicants. After one month, another manager called me, but from different department, asked me whether I am interested in other specific post or not. The post is like software support kind of nature. I responded with NO INTEREST.

Huh...I apply job A they gave me job B. doh.gif
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Arggg... May be they thinnk that your qualification is nore suitable for the position B? tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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Arggg... May be they thinnk that your qualification is nore suitable for the position B?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Hmm.....I doubt it.

You see post A is Mask Design, which requires engineering knowledge in VLSI, semiconductor and wafer cross-section knowledge, which I believe I displayed my knowledge during the test, though may be a fresh graduate level, since my current position is of different nature.

Post B is more to software, I recall the post is something CAD support and something like that, the caller did not tell in much details. I presume it requires a lot of programming skills and thus far more strayed from my skills sets.

I felt not right about it and did not want to regret second time, thus REJECTED.

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Hmm.....I doubt it.

You see post A is Mask Design, which requires engineering knowledge in VLSI, semiconductor and wafer cross-section knowledge, which I believe I displayed my knowledge during the test, though may be a fresh graduate level, since my current position is of different nature.

Post B is more to software, I recall the post is something CAD support and something like that, the caller did not tell in much details. I presume it requires a lot of programming skills and thus far more strayed from my skills sets.

I felt not right about it and did not want to regret second time, thus REJECTED.
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Looking back now, sometimes I wonder whether I made a right decision.... unsure.gif

Even bothering me now is will I be happier if I accepted their offer last time...... unsure.gif
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Arggg... May be they thinnk that your qualification is nore suitable for the position B?  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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There's another question from the interviewer regarding this. I didnt get a place in the company previously bcause i answered it wrongly

Question : There's a lot of empty vacancies in the department A. How about trying position B?

Although in my application form I applied for position A

My answer : Yes, I'll try my best in position B and will work hard to accomplish the tasks that I'll receive.

BANG! you're a goner

This is where they are testing your ability in making decisions. If u applied for A, please state firmly in your answer that u are only interested in it. Your interviewers definitely will get the first impression of you not being able to make desicions wisely.
A type that will keep on changing things in the future and definitely will waste a lot of time in projects.

Most probably other companies will ask this question if they think u are more suitable in other positions. That is good. But in interviews u have to take a chance in your answers. flex.gif



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QUOTE(providence @ Jun 12 2005, 12:07 PM)
There's another question from the interviewer regarding this. I didnt get a place in the company previously bcause i answered it wrongly

Question : There's a lot of empty vacancies in the department A. How about trying position B?

Although in my application form I applied for position A

My answer : Yes, I'll try my best in position B and will work hard to accomplish the tasks that I'll receive.

BANG! you're a goner

This is where they are testing your ability in making decisions. If u applied for A, please state firmly in your answer that u are only interested in it. Your interviewers definitely will get the first impression of you not being able to make desicions wisely.
A type that will keep on changing things in the future and definitely will waste a lot of time in projects.

Most probably other companies will ask this question if they think u are more suitable in other positions. That is good. But in interviews u have to take a chance  in your answers. flex.gif
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The question has no general right or wrong answer. It depends on the company. It is entirely possible the company thinks you might be more suited to another position.
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QUOTE(jsm @ Jun 12 2005, 12:53 PM)
The question has no general right or wrong answer.  It depends on the company.  It is entirely possible the company thinks you might be more suited to another position.
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In my case, it is definitely a screwed up question cry.gif

I got this info from my senior who's working in the Admin department.
Mostly their question are made to attack u indirectly whistling.gif
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hello all.
i've not been working since august last year (almost a year now) due to some family problem which i prefer not to mention to the interviewer. but they will ask what family problem do i have that make me quit for a year. can someone teach me how to answer this in a more effective way?
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hello all.
i've not been working since august last year (almost a year now) due to some family problem which i prefer not to mention to the interviewer. but they will ask what family problem do i have that make me quit for a year. can someone teach me how to answer this in a more effective way?
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What is wrong with answering the question? If you don't answer the interviewer will just conclude that you must have served jail time or something and throw away your application. Your interviewer is probably human and understands that families have problems. If you were part of the problem that would concern them, if you are part of the solution that would look favourably to you.
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usually when they ask me why i quit, i'll tell them due to some family problem. although not all, but some will ask what family problem, and my answer is to take care of my aunt who lives alone and recently have difficulty in moving. it's not a very good answer right?

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QUOTE(DreamScar @ Jun 15 2005, 02:50 PM)
usually when they ask me why i quit, i'll tell them due to some family problem. although not all, but some will ask what family problem, and my answer is to take care of my aunt who leaves alone and recently have difficulty in moving. it's not a very good answer right?
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If it is not the truth it is a terrible answer. If I was interviewing you and would dig deeper to understand if no closer relation could take care of the aunt. My intent would be to learn if this is going to be a long term commitment that may impact your work. You would have to demonstrate that it would not.
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QUOTE(providence @ Jun 12 2005, 12:07 PM)
There's another question from the interviewer regarding this. I didnt get a place in the company previously bcause i answered it wrongly

Question : There's a lot of empty vacancies in the department A. How about trying position B?

Although in my application form I applied for position A

My answer : Yes, I'll try my best in position B and will work hard to accomplish the tasks that I'll receive.

BANG! you're a goner

This is where they are testing your ability in making decisions. If u applied for A, please state firmly in your answer that u are only interested in it. Your interviewers definitely will get the first impression of you not being able to make desicions wisely.
A type that will keep on changing things in the future and definitely will waste a lot of time in projects.

Most probably other companies will ask this question if they think u are more suitable in other positions. That is good. But in interviews u have to take a chance  in your answers. flex.gif
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yeah i learn that from my pervious interview too....
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it's true and i know it's not a good answer. that's why i was hoping to have an opinion on what else can i say. i did include that i took the time to think about what i want to do in life.
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QUOTE(DreamScar @ Jun 15 2005, 04:49 PM)
it's true and i know it's not a good answer. that's why i was hoping to have an opinion on what else can i say. i did include that i took the time to think about what i want to do in life.
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Hi,

If it is true, why do you think it is not a good answer?? All you have to said is you are very close to you aunt and she is like a mother to you. As an employer, what we would want to know is going forward do you still have this kind of commitment??

Truth is always better than lies.. It is less troublesome too and it put you in a moral high ground.

You are not the only one in the world that has older familiy member to take care of...

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If it is true, why do you think it is not a good answer??  All you have to said is you arer very close to you aunt and she is like a mother to you.  As an employer, what we would want to know is going forward do you still have this kind of commitment??

Truth is always better than lies.. It is less trouble some too and it put you in a moral high ground.

You are not the only one in the world that has older familiy member to take care of...

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QUOTE(DreamScar @ Jun 15 2005, 02:50 PM)
usually when they ask me why i quit, i'll tell them due to some family problem. although not all, but some will ask what family problem, and my answer is to take care of my aunt who lives alone and recently have difficulty in moving. it's not a very good answer right?
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Maybe its better to tell them that u prefer not to mention more about your problems, Just tell them its personal matters and its already been solved.

Some companies will have sympathy on u and try to help u as much as they can. One they know thats it regarding family problems, they will stop asking and proceed to other questions.

But, if u run into companies that are hardsellling and dont accept no as an answer,
you better not answer them like that bcause they basically dont care about your personal problems. Its either u give full commitment to your work or your family.
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But, if u run into companies that are hardsellling and dont accept no as an answer,
you better not answer them like that bcause they basically dont care about your personal problems. Its either u give full commitment to your work or your family.
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Hi,

Why?? For those company,

1) You do not want to work for them

2) Even if you work for them, eventually you will have problem witth the company because you need time to deal with your family.

So, honesty saves time and trouble. It stops you for wasting time on a company that you do not want to work for..

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Maybe its better to tell them that u prefer not to mention more about your problems, Just tell them its personal matters and its already been solved.

Some companies will have sympathy on u and try to help u as much as they can. One they know thats it regarding family problems, they will stop asking and proceed to other questions.

But, if u run into companies that are hardsellling and dont accept no as an answer,
you better not answer them like that bcause they basically dont care about your personal problems. Its either u give full commitment to your work or your family.
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Hi,

You may or may not believe me. After working for 20 years, I found that it is just not worthwhile to lie. Honesty is the best policy...

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jun 18 2005, 08:16 AM)
Hi,

Why?? For those company,

1) You do not want to work for them

2)  Even if you work for them, eventually you will have problem witth the company because you need time to deal with your family.

So, honesty saves time and trouble.  It stops you for wasting time on a company that you do not want to work for..

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Yup, lying will never help you much, thats why u need to check out about the company that u are going to work for - about their background.

BTW, since u have been working for 20 years +, I think u should be experienced enough to balance time between your work and personal/family matters.

Good Luck flex.gif
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mm... ok. thanks for all the advice. wink.gif
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Yup, lying will never help you much, thats why u need to check out about the company that u are going to work for - about their background.

BTW, since u have been working for 20 years +, I think u should be experienced enough to balance time between your work and personal/family matters.

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Hi,

I am sorry to tell you that years of experience does not help in balancing time between work, family and health. It will always be a tough struggle...

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I am sorry to tell you that years of experience does not help in balancing time between work, family and health.  It will always be a tough struggle...

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Hmm.. what to do

Getting married and raising your family definitely will have some impact on your work.
Life goes on - just dun get stressed out from these all. biggrin.gif
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Hey...newbie here. I've never been to any formal interviews yet.
I want to know how do I answer if I'm asked "Why should I employ you?".
Whoa..though question. I'm just an average freshie and all and I can't really think of saying anything outstanding that will make the interviewer go "Yay..you're in!". I just want a good answer that the interviewer will be satisfied with.

And what should I ask if I'm asked "Do you have any questions?" at the end of the interview? I heard that if you don't ask anything it shows that you're not interested in the job anymore.
Thanks!
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Hey...newbie here. I've never been to any formal interviews yet.
I want to know how do I answer if I'm asked "Why should I employ you?".
Whoa..though question. I'm just an average freshie and all and I can't really think of saying anything outstanding that will make the interviewer go "Yay..you're in!". I just want a good answer that the interviewer will be satisfied with.

And what should I ask if I'm asked "Do you have any questions?" at the end of the interview? I heard that if you don't ask anything it shows that you're not interested in the job anymore.
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You cannot answer the question "why should I employ you?" if you know nothing about the company. You must do research before the interview so you can answer something relevant like "I know that you were awarded a contract to deliver a health management system to the gov't. My parents work in the the health industry and I have learned a lot from them about the healthcare systems and I have a personal interest in this area. I am sure my interest combined with the information my parents have shared with me already will give me a head-start in working with your firm on these contracts."

If you had done your homework on the company, you will definatley have questions. You should try to learn as much about the company and the position as possible for you to understand if you are compatible with the position. You don't want to learn these things after you are employed. For example you might ask "What are the main criteria that you are looking for in a candidate? What are some of the significant challenges the person who is given this job are likely to face? How would the person who is given this position be evaluated?
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Rawr...thanks jsm! That really helped.. laugh.gif
Another thing is do I have to shake the interviewer's hand when I walk in or do I just...walk in...and only sit when asked to. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Jun 23 2005, 03:43 AM)
Rawr...thanks jsm! That really helped.. laugh.gif
Another thing is do I have to shake the interviewer's hand when I walk in or do I just...walk in...and only sit when asked to. rolleyes.gif
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It is a custom to shake hands. Show how professional u are. But be surprised if some of them ignore you. sweat.gif

When entering the interview room, just be yourself. Act normally. The interviewers can sense whether you are nervous or calm.

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QUOTE(masterelr @ Jun 23 2005, 03:43 AM)
Rawr...thanks jsm! That really helped.. laugh.gif
Another thing is do I have to shake the interviewer's hand when I walk in or do I just...walk in...and only sit when asked to. rolleyes.gif
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Respond in the appropriate culture way. If your interviewer is a Malay lady you would not take the lead in a handshake unless she initiates it. If your are interviewing in a Japanese company you had better learn their customs. It would be rude and uncultured to just sit down and ignore greeting formalities.
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Heh...I just remembered shaking hands isn't really appropriate if its a Malay lady. And yeah I think I know what to do if its a japanese company. *Bows* Konniciwa.....I guess. rolleyes.gif
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care to elaborate not shaking hands with a malay interviewer ? that's new to me.
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care to elaborate not shaking hands with a malay interviewer ? that's new to me.
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A Muslim lady is not supposed to have physical contact with men outside her immediate family, many people believe that includes handshakes. Some women do not care about this and will shake hands with a man. It is best to respect a Muslim lady and let her offer her hand first instead of sticking your hand out and making her feel awkward if she doesn't wish to shake your hand. Some Muslim women may shake a males hand but they first put a piece of fabric between the hands to avoid real contact.
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noted. thanks. I dealt with Malay ladies before, none of them had this problem. I learn something new everyday.
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QUOTE(jsm @ Jun 23 2005, 11:44 PM)
A Muslim lady is not supposed to have physical contact with men outside her immediate family, many people believe that includes handshakes.  Some women do not care about this and will shake hands with a man.  It is best to respect a Muslim lady and let her offer her hand first instead of sticking your hand out and making her feel awkward if she doesn't wish to shake your hand.  Some Muslim women may shake a males hand but they first put a piece of fabric between the hands to avoid real contact.
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Hi Jsm,

Is this specific to Malay lady?? Generally, I do not shake hand or have any physical contact with Asian lady unless it is offerred by the lady first...

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QUOTE(providence @ Jun 23 2005, 07:37 AM)
It is a custom to shake hands. Show how professional u are. But be surprised if some of them ignore you.  sweat.gif

When entering the interview room, just be yourself. Act normally. The interviewers can sense whether you are nervous or calm.
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Haha. Not many people is as professional. Usually, when I leave the interview room, I will offer to shake hand with the interviewer. Very often, they have a few seconds of blank mind, I guess. Like.. what is the hand for. Hahaha.

However, it makes a good impression if you manage to shake the interviewer's hand before the interview begins. Coz if you know the right way to shake hand (firm but not hard), it shows that you have quite a good confident level.

Funny that most Malaysian girls find it odd to shake a man's hand. What is wrong with that? They always just touch and that's it ... Come on la, the guy is not going to molest your hand unless he is a pervert.
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Hey...newbie here. I've never been to any formal interviews yet.
I want to know how do I answer if I'm asked "Why should I employ you?".
Whoa..though question. I'm just an average freshie and all and I can't really think of saying anything outstanding that will make the interviewer go "Yay..you're in!". I just want a good answer that the interviewer will be satisfied with.

And what should I ask if I'm asked "Do you have any questions?" at the end of the interview? I heard that if you don't ask anything it shows that you're not interested in the job anymore.
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Not sure if this will help but these things happened to me before :

I went for an interview at an established bank. Supposed to be admin that deals with overseas clients, so they need someone that can speak fluent english. Went for interview, everything went well. The interviewer was pretty impressed with me and assumed that I was a degree holder; which I am not. The moment I replied, "No, I am not a degree holder, sir", the interviewer was shocked. Hahaha.

The pay was RM 2,000 for that position (back in 2001). When he found out I was not a degree holder and merely have less than 1/2 year of working experience, he was dumbfolded for a while. Then he scratched his head and said that the most he can offer to me was RM 1,600 and said he will forward my resume to other departments that may want to take me in.

Personally, I was a bit upset coz I lost in terms of paper qualification. Since I had nothing to lose, I smiled and said "But I thought you are pretty impressed during the interview". He said "Yes, but the thing is, you do not have the paper qualification to justify the position and pay". Fine. I know that well but I told him this "Would you want a person that can get the job done or someone that has the paper qualification but could not perform? Think about it".

I thought I have just killed myself but to me since I have nothing to lose, might as well I speak up for myself. Surprisingly, I was being called by his superior (a lady) to attend a second interview. It clashed with my work and I called the gentleman that I could not make it. A week later, to my surprise, the first interviewer called and asked if I would like to join them and I asked "But I thought you told me that I was not qualified?". Guess what? He told me that I was more than qualified coz I was willing to speak up and his boss offered me the job without even a second interview at RM 2,000.

However, I did not leave coz was being promoted and offered a couple hundred of increment.

The lesson that I have learnt is, one should not be too inferior when you go for an interview. The interviewer is not going to eat you up. If you think you deserve the job, prove it to them. You have nothing to lose, the most is they will say "No". Good luck wink.gif

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i had my fair share of interview woes. Before i land on my current job, I have to wait for 6 months for an interview.
I did heaps of research on the company. Everytime it was called off due to my superior have urgent meeting to attend to and what i prepared seems like down the drain. I was to about give up and they call me in for an interview. (for the 3rd time) TO my surprise, the first thing I walk in was they appologize to me that it took 6 months for them to fianlly meet me. the interview went well and i was offered the job that day itself. Finally found a job that is to my liking and the pay and benefits is great.

Sometimes it takes to have patience and search for the right job.
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Jun 25 2005, 12:29 AM)
i had my fair share of interview woes. Before i land on my current job, I have to wait for 6 months for an interview.
I did heaps of research on the company. Everytime it was called off due to my superior have urgent meeting to attend to and what i prepared seems like down the drain.  I was to about give up and they call me in for an interview. (for the 3rd time) TO my surprise, the first thing I walk in was they appologize to me that it took 6 months for them to fianlly meet me. the interview went well and i was offered the job that day itself. Finally found a job that is to my liking and the pay and benefits is great.

Sometimes it takes to have patience and search for the right job.
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Wow...not much people can get this lucky. Congrats!

I think maybe you have shown your consistency and perseverance and that already stamp a good impression on the interviewer.
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thanks.................
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Sometimes it is also being there at the right place and right time with the right skills smile.gif
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some interviewers says that i speak/can speak quite fast.
is that a good sign?
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some interviewers says that i speak/can speak quite fast.
is that a good sign?
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If your interviewer says such thing it could be taken in either a positive or negative way. You should see clarification from the interviewer and say "I am very excited and I sometimes speak fast when I am excited. Would it be better if I speak slower?". If your interviewer is having a hard time following you at such speed they may want you to slow down.
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Agree with JSM. At least the interviewer commented that you can speak. Speaking too fast .. that person may not be able to listen to you properly.
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do u have any better answer bout "Tell me about yourself..." ?
i mean, beside the answered one (page 1), do u have any better...
coz I think i'm wrong when my 1st interview I tell bout my background, life, education, and work experience...
hurm...
sometime 1st answr give a strong effect and +/- for the interviewers... blink.gif

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QUOTE(mhz @ Jul 1 2005, 12:02 AM)
do u have any better answer bout "Tell me about yourself..." ?
i mean, beside the answered one (page 1), do u have any better...
coz I think i'm wrong when my 1st interview I tell bout my background, life, education, and work experience...
hurm...
sometime 1st answr give a strong effect and +/- for the interviewers... blink.gif
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got scared when listened to the ' tell me about yourself' question

still remember the first time i went for an interview after my SPM

there are a lot of people that came for the interview so the process have to be done in pairs in order to save some time

I got paired with a lady. u know what happened?

All the time the 2 gatal male interviewers only asked the lady - tell me about yourself

ha ha asked me only a few questions and as expected i didnt get the job sweat.gif
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QUOTE(providence @ Jul 1 2005, 06:48 AM)
got scared when listened to the ' tell me about yourself' question

still remember the first time i went for an interview after my SPM

there are a lot of people that came for the interview so the process have to be done in pairs in order to save some time

I got paired with a lady. u know what happened?

All the time the 2 gatal male interviewers only asked the lady - tell me about yourself

ha ha asked me only a few questions and as expected i didnt get the job sweat.gif
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Hmm...if they act so unprofessional during recruitment process, it's not worth it to work for them.

Recruitment/interview is very serious and formal to a company, it should not be taken lightly.
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QUOTE(mhz @ Jul 1 2005, 12:02 AM)
do u have any better answer bout "Tell me about yourself..." ?
i mean, beside the answered one (page 1), do u have any better...
coz I think i'm wrong when my 1st interview I tell bout my background, life, education, and work experience...
hurm...
sometime 1st answr give a strong effect and +/- for the interviewers... blink.gif
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DUH! Dont expect others to tell something about yourself. Ask yourself. Dont tell me u dont know about yourself? Well one tip for you. Tell things that are relevant to them aka to the job. Who wants to know about your 1st date or so. yawn.gif
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its norm when they ask you to tell about yourself just to warm things up therefore better be prepared.
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that question is also to find out from the beginning whether u can speak well or not
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that question is also to find out from the beginning whether u can speak well or not
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hehs...
i mean do i need to tell bout my background, life, education, and work experience...
or do like this...
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Tell me about yourself.
Ineffective: I am a hard-worker who is good with numbers. After I worked as a financial analyst for a few years, I decided to go to law school. I just finished and now am looking for a new challenge.

Effective: I began developing skills relevant to financial planning when I worked as a financial analyst for three years. In that role, I succeeded in multiplying the wealth of my clients by carefully analyzing the market for trends. The return on the portfolios I managed was generally 2% more than most of the portfolios managed by my company. My initiative, planning, and analytic skills were rewarded by two promotions. As the manager of a team, I successfully led them to develop a more efficient and profitable strategy for dealing with new accounts. My subsequent training in the law, including tax law and estate law, gives me an informed view of what types of investments and charitable gifts would be most advantageous for your clients.


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dun worry. seldom ppl can give answers like the Effective example. unless u're a robot and can say this stuffs out easily. it might also look like that u memorized it from the interviewer's point of view. better be yourself and just describe urself.
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most of the time when u are telling them about yaself, they are going through your resume, therefore their attention is minimum...
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most of the time when u are telling them about yaself, they are going through your resume, therefore their attention is minimum...
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They are probably looking through the resume because the applicant is not offering anything useful or pertinent in their response to the question.
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true as well, but some of the interviewers don't even go through the resume before the interviews..
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QUOTE(mwtang @ Jul 4 2005, 09:53 AM)
true as well, but some of the interviewers don't even go through the resume before the interviews..
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went for interview...all went well ..i was suffering from a bad tooth as well....god decided to give me the pain in the middle of the interview
suddenly interviewer ask me are u meticulous...i answered no laugh.gif

suddenly abit of change in the enviroment
they said they would call me in a couple of weeks tongue.gif
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When interviewers usually ask me to tell them about myself. most of the time i don't don't long on my education part, mabe few lines or sentences and then straight jump to the working life.

I never thought of using the kind of answers from the Effective example. Just be yourself. no worries.

BTW, i'm having a 2nd interview coming up in 2 weeks time. I've been to only 2 second interviews and both also ended up in dead end. What would be the questions ask or what should i do? advice needed.
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being urself is better in the long run, i can't remember all those answer anyway and i feel so fake...

question asked will like in the first page, they pretty covered it all and the answer sounds great man, u should try it
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Why your expected salary is RM XXXX?

Do you think you worth that amount of salary?
if yes, why you think you worth?
if no, how much salary you think you worth?


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Why your expected salary is RM XXXX?

Do you think you worth that amount of salary?
if yes, why you think you worth?
if no, how much salary you think you worth?
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You never tell the company what is your expected salary. You let the company to make the first offer. In any type of negotiation, whoever make the first offer loses..

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 11 2005, 10:05 PM)
Hi,

You never tell the company what is your expected salary.  You let the company to make the first offer.  In any type of negotiation, whoever make the first offer loses..

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Not an always case. I've told them this is what i want and i have proven to them that i can do the job with the right atitude. To my suprise, they even offered me more than what i have asked. The HR ppl know how to evaluate the value of someone. Of course, they (MNCs) dont mind paying extra if the person can do the job and has the right atitude. thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 11 2005, 10:05 PM)
Hi,

You never tell the company what is your expected salary.  You let the company to make the first offer.  In any type of negotiation, whoever make the first offer loses..

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but we have to fill up the application form before meet the interviewer, and the application form have a expected salary column...skip it?
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QUOTE(Show-Time @ Jul 12 2005, 09:34 PM)
but we have to fill up the application form before meet the interviewer, and the application form have a expected salary column...skip it?
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its a bit hard when it comes to the expected salary matter when its your first time working

but if you are experienced the just lash out whatever amount u think u deserve
bcause u got the skill and experience to back up your claims

unless u good in lying about that whistling.gif
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normally what i do is under the columm of expected salary, i just write down "negotiable"
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normally what i do is under the columm of expected salary, i just write down "negotiable"
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Ditto.. That is what I do...

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For E & E companies, be prepared for tests which includes:
a)Everything bout Zener diodes
b)Superheterodyne if the position is related to audio
c)Transistors (BJT, MOSFET, JFET bla bla) - memorize the basic formulas
d)Kirchoff voltage law, current law

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 13 2005, 09:01 AM)
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Ditto.. That is what I do...

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wow, ur good, i never thought of that
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For E & E companies, be prepared for tests which includes:
  a)Everything bout Zener diodes
  b)Superheterodyne if the position is related to audio
  c)Transistors (BJT, MOSFET, JFET bla bla) - memorize the basic formulas
  d)Kirchoff voltage law, current law
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Electrical and Electronic Engineering filed is very diversed, the questions to be asked during interview very depends what kind of skillsets and knowledge the position needs.

For example, if go to Intel/Altera or any company doing digital products, they will ask VLSI CMOS circuit design, VHDL, logic gates like flip-flops.

If go to companies doing RF/communication, questions will be RF/MW theory, analogue circuits like BJT and FET, and communication theory for analoue and digital.

If for fresh graduate, your final year project will be the focus of the interview.

So, in short, just study the job responsibilities and requirements and study the theory based on that.

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QUOTE(TYK @ Jul 14 2005, 11:28 AM)
Electrical and Electronic Engineering filed is very diversed, the questions to be asked during interview very depends what kind of skillsets and knowledge the position needs.

For example, if go to Intel/Altera or any company doing digital products, they will ask VLSI CMOS circuit design, VHDL, logic gates like flip-flops.

If go to companies doing RF/communication, questions will be RF/MW theory, analogue circuits like BJT and FET, and communication theory for analoue and digital.

If for fresh graduate, your final year project will be the focus of the interview.

So, in short, just study the job responsibilities and requirements and study the theory based on that.
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Yes, what you say are true. Those interview tips are based on my own experiences.
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I recently received a letter to go for interview for the student exchange programme i applied for 2 months ago.
www.afs.org / www.afs.org.my

Its alittle out of topic but i need alittle help here ... since its interview.
how must you "perform" infront of them if you wanna show that you're a well educated person. Of course i am well educated, but we ourselves wouldnt know the way we do things in interview right ?
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I recently received a letter to go for interview for the student exchange programme i applied for 2 months ago.
www.afs.org / www.afs.org.my

Its alittle out of topic but i need alittle help here ... since its interview.
how must you "perform" infront of them if you wanna show that you're a well educated person. Of course i am well educated, but we ourselves wouldnt know the way we do things in interview right ?
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Start by doing your homework and read up everything on the country that you are supposed to go to...

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Ditto.. That is what I do...

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so u just put "negotiable"
or u put ur expected salary eg "RM2000 (nego)"?
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so u just put "negotiable"
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"Negotiable" only with no figure..

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Hi dreamer,

tx for ur reply.
i often stumbled when the interviewer ask me question like...
"why do u wanna leave ur current company?"

what should i answer?
be honest? saying something like "looking for a good pay? current company not doing very well?"
or "want a new challenge?/want to try now things?/looking for career advancement?"

tq biggrin.gif
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Hi dreamer,

tx for ur reply.
i often stumbled when the interviewer ask me question like...
"why do u wanna leave ur current company?"

what should i answer?
be honest? saying something like "looking for a good pay? current company not doing very well?"
or "want a new challenge?/want to try now things?/looking for career advancement?"

tq biggrin.gif
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This is actually a very tough trick question. The trick of answering of this question is remember the golden rule: "Never say bad thing about your previous or current employer."

Some interviewer will bait you into saying bad thing about your employer but you should always stopped it. The reason is you do nto do that because

1) That is not professional

2) If you do that, the interviewer will believe that you may do this to them also in the future so you will not be hired..

So, something neutral like "I am seeking new challenge" works a lot better..

Now, what if the interviewer say something like "I heard that your compnay is going to have layoff or it is going out of business", how will you respond??

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Now, what if the interviewer say something like "I heard that your compnay is going to have  layoff or it is going out of business", how will you respond??

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I was really asked this question in one of my recent interviews, as you told me, my answer to them is "There is such a rumour, but I don't know much about it".
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I was really asked this question in one of my recent interviews, as you told me, my answer to them is "There is such a rumour, but I don't know much about it".
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Another way to respond is "No comment". Or, I do not comment on rumour..

You can learn some trick from how politician handle embarrasing questions gracefully...

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What if we dont have a really good reason to leave current company other than getting a better pay?
Doesnt "seeking new challenge etc..." sounds BS to the interviewer?
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What if we dont have a really good reason to leave current company other than getting a better pay?
Doesnt "seeking new challenge etc..." sounds BS to the interviewer?
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So what?? The interviewer is asking a question where someone with professional integrity will not answer honestly?? Only frehies will do this. You have your privacy?? Why should you disclose everything about yourself. Ditto, if you ask the interviewer how well is the company he/she working in now treating him/her, will you expect to get an honest answer?? If you do, that means the interviewe is not professional.. For example, if a stranger on a street ask you how much money do you have and what is your salary?? Do you answer?? If a man ask a woman about her age, is she supposed to answer???

That are rules and protocols on business working life. For example, if you go to store to buy a car, if you ask what is the actial dealer cost of the car, do you expect get the real answer from car salesman??

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Hi dreamer, thanks for ur feedback, really appreciate it

in my experience, another tricky question that always bugged me is:
"why do u want this job? it is not much different from the job you are doing now?"

i reckon, answers like "looking for new challenge",or "...new work environment" doesnt really impress right?
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Hi dreamer, thanks for ur feedback, really appreciate it

in my experience, another tricky question that always bugged me is:
"why do u want this job? it is not much different from the job you are doing now?"

i reckon, answers like "looking for new challenge",or "...new work environment" doesnt really impress right?
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Hi,

Go back further on this thread. This question is to test whether you have done your home work and waht you knwo about this new company. This is where you put your home work to work.. The correct answer will be like

From my research, I found that your company is one of the best in marketing and has an excellence progrm to groom and train people.. and so on..

Your answer has to be specific to this company and it needs to be unique and true...

This is the kind of question will separate the well prepared candidate from other normal people.. I use this kind of question to interview people..

The other question I like to use is "why do you think we should hire you instead of other equal or more qualified conadidates??"

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Hi,

Go back further on this thread.  This question is to test whether you have done your home work and waht you knwo about this new company.  This is where you put your home work to work.. The correct answer will be like

From my research, I found that your company is one of the best in marketing and has an excellence progrm to groom and train people.. and so on..

Your answer has to be specific to this company and it needs to be unique and true...

This is the kind of question will separate the well prepared candidate from other normal people.. I use this kind of question to interview people..

The other question I like to use is "why do you think we should hire you instead of other  equal or more qualified conadidates??"

Dreamer
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Hi,

It will usually takes me less than 5 minutes of interviewing to find out about a person and whether I want to work with a person. And, the toughest and best test is the "Orange Juice Test". Let me run this as quiz and see how many do know what it is and why it works..

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 20 2005, 04:33 PM)

The other question I like to use is "why do you think we should hire you instead of other  equal or more qualified conadidates??"

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yeah... that's another tough question, for me.... shocking.gif

"...i work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that i am more productive and efficient.." is this the kind of answer you are looking for? sweat.gif blush.gif

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yeah... that's another tough question, for me....  shocking.gif

"...i work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that i am more productive and efficient.." is this the kind of answer you are looking for?  sweat.gif  blush.gif
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Wrong answer.. Try again...

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You are welcome. Below is some tips for Interview

. Be punctual
. Introduce yourself in a courteous manner and remember to smile,smlile smile!
. Read company materials while you wait.
. give a firm handshake. 
. Use body language to show interest.
. Smile, nod, give nonverbal feedback to the interviewer.
. Ask about the next step in the process.
. Thank the interviewer.
. Write a thank-you letter to anyone you have spoken to.
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i dun think thank-you letter will help if they really find u not suitble. well, so far in my case lar.
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yeah... that's another tough question, for me....  shocking.gif

"...i work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that i am more productive and efficient.." is this the kind of answer you are looking for?  sweat.gif  blush.gif
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Hi,

BTW, you may be a hard working person but your post show that you are not a hard working or careful person. If you do, you would have written this:

"...I work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that I am more productive and efficient.."

Instead of this

"...i work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that i am more productive and efficient.."

If person is not even hard working enough to use a shift key so the "i" is capitalize correctly, then, what can you tell about that person. This is just an advice from me. People had learned that the easiest way to find out about a person is to look at how a person handle the little stuff..

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Hi,

Go back further on this thread.  This question is to test whether you have done your home work and waht you knwo about this new company.  This is where you put your home work to work.. The correct answer will be like

From my research, I found that your company is one of the best in marketing and has an excellence progrm to groom and train people.. and so on..

Your answer has to be specific to this company and it needs to be unique and true...

This is the kind of question will separate the well prepared candidate from other normal people.. I use this kind of question to interview people..

The other question I like to use is "why do you think we should hire you instead of other  equal or more qualified conadidates??"

Dreamer
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I was also asked this question, my response was "I have been involved in a lot of engineering activities, like performing some RF measurements, test bench setup, data analysis and generating reports. These skills can be applied in this position."

Not sure it sounds persuasive enough.

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I was also asked this question, my response was "I have been involved in a lot of engineering activities, like performing some RF measurements, test bench setup, data analysis and generating reports. These skills can be applied in this position."

Not sure it sounds persuasive enough.
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You got the right answer. Now, can someone tell me why this answer is correct and why the previous answer is wrong??

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I was also asked this question, my response was "I have been involved in a lot of engineering activities, like performing some RF measurements, test bench setup, data analysis and generating reports. These skills can be applied in this position."

Not sure it sounds persuasive enough.
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It sounds a bit arrogant or naive the way you wrote your statement "These skills can be applied in this position". Chances are very good you know very little about the position being offered. I would suggest saying "I believe these skills may be essential in the position you are trying to fill". It may appear to be a small change from your previous statement but often these little things can appear as an "arrogant" attitude to the interviewer.

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got this from a forum that i manage. i think it is just as important for potential employers to evaluate you based on selective questions that you ask. these questions are apt at the end of the interview session where they will open a forum for you. unless you are that desperate, these questions can help you gauge the viability of the company to your career.

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1. What do you find most frustrating about your position? (Ask this if the job interviewer is in the IT department.)
2. Why is this position open?
3. Can you describe a typical day in this role?
4. Where do you see this position in three to five years?
5. What is the company's policy regarding training?
6. Would the job description assigned to me be based on my interest areas?
7. What are the company's financial stability and future growth possibilities?
8. Could you describe the work culture (do people work overtime, etc.)?
9. What are the personal growth opportunities (such as leadership training, company-supported community work, mentoring, and so on)?
10. What is the training budget for the IT staff?
11. How many IT employees do you have?
12. How many people are supported by the IT staff?
13. What technologies have you implemented?
14. What are your major IT initiatives for the year?
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from my experience, if i think i done well in an interview, i won't get the job. if i ans like normal I got the job. i been to so many interviews last year that I develop phobia for interview expecially the fill up the form part. why they need u to fill up when they have ur CV unless they want to see ur handwriting.

1 thing very funny, when my frd went for interview at IBM, he was so honest with the interviewers that the interviewers said "I think u r not suitble for the job"(something like that). My frd ans "how would u knw if u dun give me a chance". most of his answer r surprisingly something against the 'interview law'. and he is not extra ordinary smart or very special experience or good looking. but he got the job!!!! luck is important
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i dun think thank-you letter will help if they really find u not suitble. well, so far in my case lar.
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Hi,

If you are sincere in believing in thanking someone, by all the means, send a thank you letter. If not, do not do it. If all you cares about is getting this particular job, then, do not send the thank you letter. But, you are very short sighted.

1 ) Just because you are not suitable for a job now, it does not mean they may not have a job in future.

2 ) It is a very small world, the interviewer may know someone or some company that may have position that is suitable for you..

3 ) The interviewer may be abled to give you some advice..

By the way, I am sorry to say that most Malaysians are very bad mannered. They do not say "please" and "thank you" regularly. So, if someone comes along behave in a well mannered fashion, I am more inclined to do what I can to help the person..

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Hi,

BTW, you may be a hard working person but your post show that you are not a hard working or careful person.  If you do, you would have written this:

"...I work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that I am more productive and efficient.."

Instead of this

"...i work hard, always ready to learn new stuff and adapt to my working environemt so that i am more productive and efficient.."

If person is not even hard working enough to use a shift key so the "i" is capitalize correctly, then, what can you tell about that person.  This is just an advice from me.  People had learned that the easiest way to find out about a person is to look at how a person handle the little stuff..

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Jul 20 2005, 06:31 PM)
Hi,

You got the right answer.  Now, can someone tell me why this answer is correct and why the previous answer is wrong??

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Emphasize more on the job scope we applied to? Not just in general?
I reckon play "hard-to-get" is dangerous and too arrogant. Is being humble and optimistic persuasive enough?
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Noted.
Emphasize more on the job scope we applied to? Not just in general?
I reckon play "hard-to-get" is dangerous and too arrogant. Is being humble and optimistic persuasive enough?
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Hi sk41,

You got it.. The whole point of having a job interview is to find out whether you can do the job. So, you need to find out what the job is, what is required, and provide as many specific details as possible as why you can do the job. That means provide examples of stuff that you had learnt and done that show you can do the job..

I do not know what do you mean by "hard-to-get"?? Just focus on the job and job requirement and you will be fine. Everyone has his/her own style. I am very Americanized and am a very straight forward person. So, some times, it may come across as arrogant to some people that do not appreciate direct honesty. But, that is the risk that I am taking and it is my style. I may delight American companies and piss of some other companies. But, a very important thign about working is compatibility of company culture and your style. It is better to find out during interview as opposed working later...

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This post has been edited by dreamer101: Jul 21 2005, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(ihsan @ Jul 20 2005, 07:10 PM)
got this from a forum that i manage. i think it is just as important for potential employers to evaluate you based on selective questions that you ask. these questions are apt at the end of the interview session where they will open a forum for you. unless you are that desperate, these questions can help you gauge the viability of the company to your career.

---
1. What do you find most frustrating about your position? (Ask this if the job interviewer is in the IT department.)
2. Why is this position open?
3. Can you describe a typical day in this role?
4. Where do you see this position in three to five years?
5. What is the company's policy regarding training?
6. Would the job description assigned to me be based on my interest areas?
7. What are the company's financial stability and future growth possibilities?
8. Could you describe the work culture (do people work overtime, etc.)?
9. What are the personal growth opportunities (such as leadership training, company-supported community work, mentoring, and so on)?
10. What is the training budget for the IT staff?
11. How many IT employees do you have?
12. How many people are supported by the IT staff?
13. What technologies have you implemented?
14. What are your major IT initiatives for the year?
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Hi,

Just to add to what ihsan posted. I prefer to ask open ended question to the interviewer. Answer to those questions tend to give you more information. The questions that I used are like

1) What is the most important attribute that a person must have to work in this company??

2) What is the best attribute of this company??

3) What do you like most about this company??

4) What and where is the most profitable part of this company??

5) Who/what is the most important division/department of this company??

6) This company is successful because of ???

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It sounds a bit arrogant or naive the way you wrote your statement "These skills can be applied in this position". Chances are very good you know very little about the position being offered. I would suggest saying "I believe these skills may be essential in the position you are trying to fill".  It may appear to be a small change from your previous statement but often these little things can appear as an "arrogant" attitude to the interviewer.
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Normally, when we come across job advertisements, there are job responsibilities and requirements listed. With these information we can know what kind of tasks are to be handled by this position and what kind of knowledge and skill sets are needed.

So, during interview for that particular position, we emphasize our achievements or activities that are directly related to the job responsibilities and requirements.

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Normally, when we come across job advertisements, there are job responsibilities and requirements listed. With these information we can know what kind of tasks are to be handled by this position and what kind of knowledge and skill sets are needed.

So, during interview for that particular position, we emphasize our achievements or activities that are directly related to the job responsibilities and requirements.
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Yes you should highlight what you think are required or useful for the job, but don't be arrogant. Even if the job posting indicated a certain set of requirements, that posting may not actually be precise. It is always better to say "I think I would be ideal for this position because...." than to say " I know I am best for this position because....".
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Yes you should highlight what you think are required or useful for the job, but don't be arrogant.  Even if the job posting indicated a certain set of requirements, that posting may not actually be precise.  It is always better to say "I think I would be ideal for this position because...." than to say " I know I am best for this position because....".
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Hi,

I agree with jsm.. You can be assertive without being arrogant..

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Acknowledged, thanks a lot for the advice.
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Hi..
Recently i just got an interview.. Actually was yesterday.. The company is panasonic..
Anyway, they gave tests, could answer all thier questions..

But i wasn't prepared for the questions like

"describe your self in 20 words"

or

"what is your weakness"

couldn't think of it at the moment, u panic, then brain freezes..

Anway, today i got a call, ask me to go to a second interview...

Any Idea what to expect from them again? same questions?

Another thing, there's 4 interviewer.. My heart nearly stoped beating when i saw them..

Thing is, i didn't shake thier hands when i came in or when i go out..
Cause it's odd or just weird to shake 4 hands..
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Hi..
Recently i just got an interview.. Actually was yesterday.. The company is panasonic..
Anyway, they gave tests, could answer all thier questions..

But i wasn't prepared for the questions like

"describe your self in 20 words"

or

"what is your weakness"

couldn't think of it at the moment, u panic, then brain freezes..

Anway, today i got a call, ask me to go to a second interview...

Any Idea what to expect from them again? same questions?

Another thing, there's 4 interviewer.. My heart nearly stoped beating when i saw them..

Thing is, i didn't shake thier hands when i came in or when i go out..
Cause it's odd or just weird to shake 4 hands..
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Hi,

It is very simple..

1) Find out what the job is about

2) Show/tell/demonstrate how you can do the job

Please capitalize your "i" properly!!! Doesn't anyone know how to write in proper English anymore???

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The post is "Embeded firmware Engineer".
The first interview I went was yesterday.
They were quite please with me to be able to answer thier test.
But just I messed up the question like what i stated before..

So now, they gave me a call again, asking me to go for a second interview with them again..

1) What should i expect from this second interview?
2) Also, there were 4 person interviewing me.. Should i shake thier hands? Feel kind of weird..
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The post is "Embeded firmware Engineer".
The first interview I went was yesterday.
They were quite please with me to be able to answer thier test.
But just I messed up the question like what i stated before..

So now, they gave me a call again, asking me to go for a second interview with them again..

1) What should i expect from this second interview?
2) Also, there were 4 person interviewing me.. Should i shake thier hands? Feel kind of weird..
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Hi,

I would imagine that second interview would focus more on how do you get along with people. That would be my guess..

What is it about people that they cannot write a sentence with proper capitalization and proper spelling??

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Hi,

I would imagine that second interview would focus more on how do you get along with people.  That would be my guess..

What is it about people that they cannot write a sentence with proper capitalization and proper spelling??

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Thanks for the advice..
I will try to keep the spelling and capitalization correct.
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Thanks for the advice..
I will try to keep the spelling and capitalization correct.
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Hi,

As to whether you should shake hand or not, I do not know. This is a Japanese company and I do not know what is the culture. But, in general, in Asia, between male and female, unless the female offer her hand, I do not think it is safe for the male to offer a hand shake..

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Guys..i've been asked to provide my 3 month payslips and offer letter of my previous employer..Is this usual?
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QUOTE(limauing @ Jul 22 2005, 07:40 PM)
The post is "Embeded firmware Engineer".
The first interview I went was yesterday.
They were quite please with me to be able to answer thier test.
But just I messed up the question like what i stated before..

So now, they gave me a call again, asking me to go for a second interview with them again..

1) What should i expect from this second interview?
2) Also, there were 4 person interviewing me.. Should i shake thier hands? Feel kind of weird..
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congrats man!
wat's wrong with shaking 4 people's hand? i went to a second interview which had 3 interviewers. i shoke all their hands when i met then and right before i left. that's manners. well unless there's a muslim lady, u should not offer ur hand shake until she do so.

usually for second interview, they would ask the dept ppl which u'll be fitted in to interview u. they wanna find out if u're suited for the job. so they would ask wat u like, give u a scenario etc and see how u answer.

goodluck.


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Guys..i've been asked to provide my 3 month payslips and offer letter of my previous employer..Is this usual?
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I remembered once that I was required to provide a copy of the payslip of currenct employment. But for your case... 3 months payslips + offer letter, would it be a little extreme?
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QUOTE(TheAssociates @ Jul 25 2005, 08:11 PM)
Guys..i've been asked to provide my 3 month payslips and offer letter of my previous employer..Is this usual?
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That is inappropriate. Tell them you signed a non-disclosure agreement with your previous company, and wouldn't mind showing them your EPF instead (that is, if they really didn't mind).

If they don't trust their own employees means you're going to be exploited if you work for them.
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That's because i tell them that im still employed hehehe.
Anyway got my new job already after provided them the docs!
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actually have anyone when being asked reason of leaving
have anyone said b4 ..

INSECURE ??? what i mean in terms of finance / money flow
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That's because i tell them that im still employed hehehe.
Anyway got my new job already after provided them the docs!
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You know... you shouldn't have...
Now the HR people will think it's fine to bully job seekers by asking for all sorts of documentations. Then they will compile a list of market price for that position, then squeeze as much out of their employees for as little pay as possible.

This is why people are complaining their job is paying them so low. It's not their fault though, the HR people are just doing their jobs by paying as little as possible, the job seeker's role is to get as high a pay as possible. SOmeone's not doing a good job.
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erm, I was browsing through a magazine that day...

for question like "where do u see urself in 10 years time from now"?

the magazine mentioned that we should tell our real plans and not be afraid of sounding more ambitious...

is this true??
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erm, I was browsing through a magazine that day...

for question like "where do u see urself in 10 years time from now"?

the magazine mentioned that we should tell our real plans and not be afraid of sounding more ambitious...

is this true??
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Hi,

The magazine that you read must not be very up-to-date. Nowaday, the question is more likely, "where do you see yourself 5 years from now?". 10 years is such a long time that anyone of us will be follish to make a 10 years' plan. 5 years is probably enough to get anything done. If you need 10 years, you probably are not productive enough.

The followings are two versions of my answers:

1 ) I see myself rich and happily doing my job for fun plus a lot of money.

2 ) It is highly uncertain what the future might bring. So, I believe in being prepared and capable orf handling any challenge that might face me. I have technical skill and plus I know how to manage and teach people. My sales and marketing skill is top notch too. I would like to learn more about the formal project management methodology. This would complete my tool box of capabilities.

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i have had questions like
where you see yourself in 2 / 3 / 5 / 10 years?

2 years is a little too short. when they asked me that question, i said 2 years is too short. then they switch the question to 5 years instead tongue.gif
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once i was asked the same question, i just reply "climb the corporate ladder".....

but deep down inside, its to be the most corrupted minister if ever i am given the chance.
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Not for engineering majors though... we usually only get asked about our FYP.

Probably implying that engineers should not have a future after 10 years
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thanks dreamer...

I'll be completing my studies by next year so right now I'm searching for potential companies which I am interested to work at....

One of the company is Apple ... My question now is, Apple is a "Creative" company and of course, they do get alot of applications ... How do I actually make my CV creative (to stand out from the crowd) without backfiring the whole thing as there's no clear guideline to how "creative" can I be... Or should I just go all out?? Is there any unwritten guideline and etc??

This is because most MNC nowadays wants employees that are dare to be different (IMHO) ... Is there any interesting book related to these issues I can read so that I can improve my self?
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thanks dreamer...

I'll be completing my studies by next year so right now I'm searching for potential companies which I am interested to work at....

One of the company is Apple ... My question now is, Apple is a "Creative" company and of course, they do get alot of applications ... How do I actually make my CV creative (to stand out from the crowd) without backfiring the whole thing as there's no clear guideline to how "creative" can I be... Or should I just go all out?? Is there any unwritten guideline and etc??

This is because most MNC nowadays wants employees that are dare to be different (IMHO) ... Is there any interesting book related to these issues I can read so that I can improve my self?
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Hi Gemini,

Some random thoughts/ideas:

1 ) If you want to learn on how to make your resume stand out, read some books on desktop publishing and find out how to use certain fonts to generate some mood and looks good. Hint: use "Times New Roman" font on your resume and it will look good on both screen and print out.

2) If you really want to learn how to be creative, I recommend reading this book:
"The Creative Attitude" by Roger Schank

3) Apple is a company that emphasized on industrial design. It might be good if you read this book: "The Design of Everyday Things" by Donald A. Norman

4) The three famous books by Edward R. Tufte are pretty good too..

5) You might want to read up stuff on digital video since this is where Apple is going...

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Great, I'll pay MPH a visit tomorrow and I think the first book I'll get is "The Creative Attitude" first because I think not only Apple, but most companies nowadays demand creativity smile.gif

And your 5th statement just made me realized where for each different company, I should focus and relate my skills to the directions they are going just like video/music editing on Apple, tape drive storage/backup/imaging on HP and etc... thanks again...
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Great, I'll pay MPH a visit tomorrow and I think the first book I'll get is "The Creative Attitude" first because I think not only Apple, but most companies nowadays demand creativity smile.gif

And your 5th statement just made me realized where for each different company, I should focus and relate my skills to the directions they are going just like video/music editing on Apple, tape drive storage/backup/imaging on HP and etc... thanks again...
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Hi,

Another very useful and must read book is "The Secrets of Consulting" by Gerald M. Weinberg. The number one problem of a fresh graduate is that they have no idea what the problem is. In college/university, you were always told what the problem is. In real world, 99% of the problem is knowing what is actually the problem. Plus, user/customer normally do not actually tell you what the real problem is. What they tell you may not be what they actually want or need. That book provides a very good guide of giving and getting advice. It is a very good read plus a very good introduction to general system theory.

Highly recommended!!!

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This is really good as what others mentioned about the interview session. I am currently seeking for a technical support where i can learn more on the network support position. If anyone happens to see any job vacancy, please advice. Still quite fresh with only a year experience.
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[quote=dreamer101,Aug 9 2005, 01:26 PM]
Hi Gemini,

Some random thoughts/ideas:

1 ) If you want to learn on how to make your resume stand out, read some books on desktop publishing and find out how to use certain fonts to generate some mood and looks good. Hint: use "Times New Roman" font on your resume and it will look good on both screen and print out.

once I read from Internet regard how to write the Resume, it recommend using Arial, any comment on this, dreamer101?
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[quote=dreamer101,Aug 9 2005, 01:26 PM]
Hi Gemini,

Some random thoughts/ideas:

1 ) If you want to learn on how to make your resume stand out, read some books on desktop publishing and find out how to use certain fonts to generate some mood and looks good. Hint: use "Times New Roman" font on your resume and it will look good on both screen and print out.

once I read from Internet regard how to write the Resume, it recommend using Arial, any comment on this, dreamer101?
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Hi,

Take your CV or resume. First, formated into arial and print a copy. Then, re-formated the same document into "Times New Roman" and print a copy and save a copy. Put both copies on the screen "arial" versus "Times New Roman" at the same time. Ask yourself which one feel nicer. Ditto for thet print out copies of "Arial" versus "Times New Roman".

You can take the two copies of your documents to almost anyone and they will tell you somehow that the "Times New Roman" version feel nicer and more professional..

Your eyes will not lie..

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Hi,

Go back further on this thread.  This question is to test whether you have done your home work and waht you knwo about this new company.  This is where you put your home work to work.. The correct answer will be like

From my research, I found that your company is one of the best in marketing and has an excellence progrm to groom and train people.. and so on..

Your answer has to be specific to this company and it needs to be unique and true...

This is the kind of question will separate the well prepared candidate from other normal people.. I use this kind of question to interview people..

The other question I like to use is "why do you think we should hire you instead of other  equal or more qualified conadidates??"

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I dont have any experience in such interview before but i will try my best to answer.(because i am currently only in Diploma level).

I think this company should hire me is because i have the drive and energy to work in this field, i am not only efficient but also a very effective person when i am doing my job. When i say that i am efficient and effective it means that i can be able to deliver consistantly and effectively means that i can always get the job done on time without delaying it. On top of that, i can easily adapt to the environment because i am a friendly person and always keep a positive mind, i am a person who will step up and receive a task rather then sitting down and wait for people to ask me to do a job. Finally, i will always try my best to make myself as an asset for this company rather then a liability.

Err. do you think that by answering this way would be effective? sweat.gif
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I dont have any experience in such interview before but i will try my best to answer.(because i am currently only in Diploma level).

I think this company should hire me is because i have the drive and energy to work in this field, i am not only efficient but also a very effective person when i am doing my job. When i say that i am efficient and effective it means that i can be able to deliver consistantly and effectively means that i can always get the job done on time without delaying it. On top of that, i can easily adapt to the environment because i am a friendly person and always keep a positive mind, i am a person who will step up and receive a task rather then sitting down and wait for people to ask me to do a job. Finally, i will always try my best to make myself as an asset for this company rather then a liability.

Err. do you think that by answering this way would be effective? sweat.gif
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Hi,

IMHO, you are trying to bluff me and it is whole bunch of BS. Where is the proof that you are telling the truth?? There is absolutely nothing in what you said that prove/verify to me that you are telling the truth. You are just stating your opinion of yourself. Given that I do not know you, why should I care/trust your opinion?? Plus you are careless and have a low opinion of yourself since you forget to put "I" in capital in the right places. What have you done to show off your capability?? A statement that works will be like this. As an example, let's say you want to be a Web master

I like this field. I have setup my own web pages at this web site. Let's look at what I have done. My web pages use flash and use mySQL database and so on.

Or, I like LAN. I setup my web server and local LAN with WiFi at home via Streamyx. You can access my web server at this URL. I have my own database and e-mail server at home too.

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Hi,

IMHO, you are trying to bluff me and it is whole bunch of BS. Where is the proof that you are telling the truth?? There is absolutely nothing in what you said that prove/verify to me that you are telling the truth. You are just stating your opinion of yourself. Given that I do not know you, why should I care/trust your opinion?? Plus you are careless and have a low opinion of yourself since you forget to put "I" in capital in the right places. What have you done to show off your capability?? A statement that works will be like this. As an example, let's say you want to be a Web master

I like this field. I have setup my own web pages at this web site. Let's look at what I have done. My web pages use flash and use mySQL database and so on.

Or, I like LAN. I setup my web server and local LAN with WiFi at home via Streamyx. You can access my web server at this URL. I have my own database and e-mail server at home too.

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Err.As i have said i dont have any experience but during the interview i will have to past all the secondary school record to the interviewer, by then they would have know whether i am lying or not. Track records of both outdoor activities plus the academic records will be the only evidence to show that i am not fabricating and of course i wouldn't be so dumb to make stories up without having any proof. wink.gif Anyway thanks for pointing out my mistakes smile.gif

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Err.As i have said i dont have any experience but during the interview i will have to past all the secondary school record to the interviewer, by then they would have know whether i am lying or not. Track records of both outdoor activities plus the academic records will be the only evidence to show that i am not fabricating and of course i wouldn't be so dumb to make stories up without having any proof. wink.gif Anyway thanks for pointing out my mistakes  smile.gif
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Hi,

"I don't have experience" is the other big excuses that I see regularly. If you are in IT area and you really interested in IT, how hard is it for a person to gain experience designing a web page?? Do you mean that you have no PC and you have no access to a PC??

Ditto for database, programing, LAN admin and so on.. You do not need a course/diploma/degree to gain those experience

"If there is a will, there is a way. If there is no motivation, there are thousand of excuses"

Most people that has a degree/diploma in IT do not really like IT. So, they only learn what is taught in the class. And, when they graduate, the most common excuse of cannot finding a job is "I do not have experience". This is whole bunch of BS!!!

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What makes you think that i am currently interested in getting an IT job, you are the one who suddenly said that it is an IT related job and i do not know how the hell on earth you can simply give that position for me and suddenly using examples like "dont tell me i have not use a pc before", and btw, if you would want to let people down make sure you do it in a proper way, this is a forum for people to learn things not having people like you who knock people down hard without any reason. Ya, you might think that the answer i gave for the question that i try out might be a bit disbelieving, but i am just trying, you can always correct people with a better way.
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What makes you think that i am currently interested in getting an IT job, you are the one who suddenly said that it is an IT related job and i do not know how the hell on earth you can simply give that position for me and suddenly using examples like "dont tell me i have not use a pc before", and btw, if you would want to let people down make sure you do it in a proper way, this is a forum for people to learn things not having people like you who knock people down hard without any reason. Ya, you might think that the answer i gave for the question that i try out might be a bit disbelieving, but i am just trying, you can always correct people with a better way.
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Hi,

I know nothing about you. I am not commenting about you. I am speaking in general about IT freshies that complaint about "I do not have experience".

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I am not commenting about you.  I am speaking in general about IT freshies that complaint about "I do not have experience".

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OIC, it's ok no hard feelings. Btw i got a question here that i would want to ask you, i have came across people telling me that most interviewer would ask question such as "tell me about your background". What answer their expecting from the inteviewee actually. smile.gif
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OIC, it's ok no hard feelings. Btw i got a question here that i would want to ask you, i have came across people telling me that most interviewer would ask question such as "tell me about your background". What answer their expecting from the inteviewee actually. smile.gif
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Hi,

The basic rule of the game is that

The interviewer is trying to find out whether you can do the job, so

1) He/she is trying to find out whether you are capable

2) He/she is trying to find out you can fit in to this company

So, regardless of whatever the question is. You will try to answer relevant facts about you that answer quetiion (1) and (2) for the interviewer.

So, you say and tell things about your background that will blend in well with the company..


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I have a question here...

I'd always wanted to ask something about the job which something regarding promotion and etc... Normally it is not stated in the job description ... These are the things I wanted to ask...

1) How long before I can expect/ask for a promotion?
2) Is there any restrictions on how far can I go based on my current degree? Do I need to do any extra courses to get promoted?

Is the questions above proper to ask to the interviewer ?
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I have a question here...

I'd always wanted to ask something about the job which something regarding promotion and etc... Normally it is not stated in the job description ... These are the things I wanted to ask...

1) How long before I can expect/ask for a promotion?
2) Is there any restrictions on how far can I go based on my current degree? Do I need to do any extra courses to get promoted?

Is the questions above proper to ask to the interviewer ?
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1) Few companies promote people based only on the amount of time they have been employed. promotions are usually based at least in principal on performance and contribution to the company. A better question would be to ask "what type of promotions could be possible in this position and what would it take in terms of contribution or performance to obtain such promotion and what is the typical amount of time it takes a person to reach such promotion?

2) Once you are employed and contributing to the company, most companies will not be concerned about your degree unless required by laws or regulatory agencies. Promotions seldom happen just because of the amount of extra courses or study you take.

As an applicant for a job, your highest priorities in the interview should be to

- determine in as much detail as possible the job responsibilities and the opportunities the position could offeer you.
- convey to the interviewer the ways in which you are ideally suited to the position.

The questions you mentioned are certainly beneficial in moving towards the goal of learning more about the job but as you have stated the questions it may be taken in a negative or arrogant way by the interviewer who may think that you believe promotion is based on factors other than performance and contribution.
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Aug 15 2005, 06:44 PM)
I have a question here...

I'd always wanted to ask something about the job which something regarding promotion and etc... Normally it is not stated in the job description ... These are the things I wanted to ask...

1) How long before I can expect/ask for a promotion?
2) Is there any restrictions on how far can I go based on my current degree? Do I need to do any extra courses to get promoted?

Is the questions above proper to ask to the interviewer ?
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These 2 questions are a bit too advanced to be asked during interviews.
You havent even got the green light to work for them and its better not to ask these questions. Unless you are well experienced or have a very good portfolio to proof your existing skill and talents that most probably will show your interest in moving forward in their company. Some companies will welcome your questions because it shows how professional you are.


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QUOTE(Geminist @ Aug 15 2005, 06:44 PM)
I have a question here...

I'd always wanted to ask something about the job which something regarding promotion and etc... Normally it is not stated in the job description ... These are the things I wanted to ask...


2) Is there any restrictions on how far can I go based on my current degree? Do I need to do any extra courses to get promoted?

Is the questions above proper to ask to the interviewer ?
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Hi,

You are NOT asking in a proper manner.

<<1) How long before I can expect/ask for a promotion? >>

What you should and could ask is

What is your company policy and procedure on performance review?? Is it qurterly review plus a final annual review. Is increment and bonuses awarded yearly or in a quarterly fashion?? Do you use a different system for a freshies?? What are your criteria for performance review??

Focus your question on the policy and procedure. Your original question sounds too damn arrogant and self serving..

<<2) Is there any restrictions on how far can I go based on my current degree? Do I need to do any extra courses to get promoted?>>

This question expose you as a freshie with no real job experience of any kind. Real job do not care about cert. It only cares about your capability (ability to do job). See my post on the pinned thread of useful resources.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=186583

A good company will have either in house training courses or sponsor you to relevant training classes to do your job. Or, the company will expect you to ask for proper traning classes whenever you need something.

The right and proper question to ask should be

What is the policy and procedure of the company on employee training?? Do the company has in house training resources?? Or is it, a internship type of arrangement where a freshies is attached to a senior and learn as you go?? Do the company has a minimum training policy where everyone must have 2 weeks of training per year?? Is training target part of the performance review process??

By the way, one way to get all those questions answerred is by asking whether you can get a copy of the employee handbook.

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ic.. thanks dreamer, jsm and providence ...

Yes, I didn't ask these questions b4 in any interviews as I myself also thinks that if I didn't convey the msg properly, I'll sound like an arrogant fool who knows nothing ..

It's great everytime I post a question here I learn something in return...

I'll always keep in mind that I MUST be more professional during interview and ask my questions in a more professional way ... Thanks smile.gif

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I've not been working for 1 year. the interviewers are sure to ask why and I would say it's because of some personal problem and it's all settled, and I also took some time to think of in which area do I want to further enhance in. the problem is I don't know how to answer their next question which would be
1. Why do you need such a long time to think? and/or
2. What have you done in this 1-year to upgrade yourself?
I have to admit that I am lazy and had wasted such a long time. but I'm sure this is not what i should answer.

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I've not been working for 1 year. the interviewers are sure to ask why and I would say it's because of some personal problem and it's all settled, and I also took some time to think of in which area do I want to further enhance in. the problem is I don't know how to answer their next question which would be
1. Why do you need such a long time to think? and/or
2. What have you done in this 1-year to upgrade yourself?
I have to admit that I am lazy and had wasted such a long time. but I'm sure this is not what i should answer.
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Hi,

<< I have to admit that I am lazy and had wasted such a long time>>

I cannot and would not answer your question until you get rid of your negativity about yourself. We are human beings. Some times, we get sick and we need time to heal. Those times are not wasted and we are not lazy. We need a break some time. Some people need a shorter time and some people need a longer time. When you have forgive yourself and starting thinking of yourself in a positive light, you would have find the right answer to those questions. Until then, be nice to yourself for a change.

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The following is a poem about self esteem.

http://www.avanta.net/writings/i-am-me.html

"I am me" by Virginia Satir

Virginia came to write this poem when she was working with an angry fifteen-year-old girl who had a lot of questions about herself and what life meant.

I am me.

In all the world, there is no one exactly like me.

There are persons who have some parts like me,

but no one adds up exactly like me.



Therefore, everything that comes out of me

is authentically mine because I alone choose it.

I own everything about me

my body including everything it does;

my mind including all its thoughts and ideas;

my eyes including the images of all they behold;

my feelings whatever they may be...

anger,

joy,

frustration,

love,

disappointment,

excitement

my mouth and all the words that come out of it

polite,

sweet or rough,

correct or incorrect;

my voice loud or soft.

And all my actions, whether they be to others or to myself.



I own my fantasies, my dreams, my hopes, my fears.

I own all my triumphs and successes,

all my failures and mistakes.

Because I own all of me I can become intimately acquainted with me.

By doing so I can love me and be friendly with me in all parts.

I can then make it possible for all of me to work in my best interests.



I know there are aspects about myself that puzzle me,

and other aspects that I do not know.

But as long as I am friendly and loving to myself,

I can courageously and hopefully, look for solutions to the puzzles

and for ways to find out more about me.



However I look and sound, whatever I say and do, and whatever I think
and feel at a given moment in time is me.

This is authentic and represents where I am in that moment in time.

When I review later how I looked and sounded, what I said and did, and how I
thought and felt, some parts may turn out to be unfitting.

I can discard that which is unfitting, and keep that which proved fitting,

And invent something new for that which I discarded.



I can see, hear, feel, think, say and do.

I have the tools to survive, to be close to others, to be productive,

and to make sense and order out of the world of people
and things outside of me.

I own me, and therefore I can engineer me.



I am me and I am okay.



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Hi,
I've never been to any formal interviews so I was wondering what should I say and do once I walk into the room?
Ok maybe I should shake the interviewers hands if he is a male and introduce myself.
"Hi, I'm Kevin."
Um...thats a bit too short for an introduction. What else should I say before I wait for the interviewer to ask me to have a seat?

Also would it be ok if I tell the interviewer that I'll probably be nervous throughout the interview even before the interview starts? I don't want to tell only half-way through the interview.
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hmm..usually the first thing you should do is to do a formal greeting.
Do not be too casual.
A nice good morning, afternoon would be much more appropriate.

When you're being interviewed, answer the questions firmly. Do not shake your legs, it pretty much disgust certain people and don't move your finger playing about. All this potrays your being and even though it got nothing to do with your capabilities, a first impression always should be good.
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Hi,
I've never been to any formal interviews so I was wondering what should I say and do once I walk into the room?
Ok maybe I should shake the interviewers hands if he is a male and introduce myself.
"Hi, I'm Kevin."
Um...thats a bit too short for an introduction. What else should I say before I wait for the interviewer to ask me to have a seat?

Also would it be ok if I tell the interviewer that I'll probably be nervous throughout the interview even before the interview starts? I don't want to tell only half-way through the interview.
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Hi,

1 ) Please be very formal. Introduce yourself in full name.
"Hi, I am Kevin" -> How dare you for you to assume that you are the only Kevin that they are interviewing?? And, this is a job interview... Be very formal..

"Hi, my name is Kevin XYZ" sounds a lot better...

2 ) I will probably be nervous -> This will count as a strike/negative point against you. If you think you can be nervous, why don't you reherse at home before hand?? This is a job interview, no excuse will be accepted..

Dreamer

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Thanks for the advice.
I have another question about "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?".
What if my answer is..."I don't plan that far ahead...after all, I could be hit by a bus tomorrow." LOL. I just want to know what the interviewer will think. I won't really say it. Unless I'm in the mood or something.

Another question about "Tell me about yourself"...
What if my answer is... "I am an accounting professional with four years corporate experience who would now like to move over onto the public accounting side. Since your firm is highly regarded, I was very interested in learing more about the opportunities here."
Is that enough? I don't have to tell them about secondary school, hobbies or where I was born, right? I read from somewhere that you should answer this question in less than a minute. Is that true?
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usually whenever they always pop this question , "tell me abt yourself stuff", is best to start with ur education line if you're a fresh grad. Then talk a bit about what you've been doing these while, etc, job, projects, your characteristics and past working experience which may enhance your probability to secure the job. Don't need to brag too much.

The question what do you see yourself in 5 years, I used to answer that with, "Well, personally if there is opportunity in the company to progress, I will see myself as one of the contributing factors for the company while moving up the organizational chart." The interviewer would be like, "WTF"....hahaha
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Aug 18 2005, 12:03 AM)
Thanks for the advice.
I have another question about "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?".
What if my answer is..."I don't plan that far ahead...after all, I could be hit by a bus tomorrow." LOL. I just want to know what the interviewer will think. I won't really say it. Unless I'm in the mood or something.

Another question about "Tell me about yourself"...
What if my answer is... "I am an accounting professional with four years corporate experience who would now like to move over onto the public accounting side. Since your firm is highly regarded, I was very interested in learing more about the opportunities here."
Is that enough? I don't have to tell them about secondary school, hobbies or where I was born, right? I read from somewhere that you should answer this question in less than a minute. Is that true?
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Those questions had been answerred in great detail. Please go back a few pages on this thread.

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QUOTE(masterelr @ Aug 18 2005, 12:03 AM)
Thanks for the advice.
I have another question about "Where do you see yourself in 5 years?".
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When the interviewer asks that type of question they may be trying to determine:

1) do you have plans to further your study?
2) do you intend to work for a company until such time as you can start your own?
3) do you have some intention to work in some area, field or industry that may or may not be in the interest of the company who is looking to recruit someone.
4) do you see yourself leaving work and becoming a full time parent.
5) do you see yourself happy doing pretty much the same job or do you have aspirations to have a continually changing job.
6) do you see yourself always being in a technical position or are you open to managment, sales or other positions.

Sadly, I find that few Malaysians will answer in a meaningful way the open question "Where do you see yourself in X years?". If I ask a closed question like "Do you have intention to further your study?" I will sometimes find the candidate remarking about their plans to get a Masters, PhD when they earlier failed to indicate that in the question 'Where do you see yourself in 5 years time.


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hallo.

I have to admit I am low in self esteem and lack of confidence. reasons are probably because my education qualifications are rather low, I'm lack of experience and I took such a long break. so I'm not confident someone would be willing to hire me.

thanks for the poem. actually felt better about myself after reading it. and your words made me think that I can just say directly I took the time to think of in which area I want to advance in and decided to take a break before I start. can say like that ah? tongue.gif
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hallo.

I have to admit I am low in self esteem and lack of confidence. reasons are probably because my education qualifications are rather low, I'm lack of experience and I took such a long break. so I'm not confident someone would  be willing to hire me.

thanks for the poem. actually felt better about myself after reading it. and your words made me think that I can just say directly I took the time to think of in which area I want to advance in and decided to take a break before I start. can say like that ah? tongue.gif
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Hi,

Honesty is the best policy.. If they (employer) are not willing to accept the truth, even after you are hired, you will not last long. Let's tell the truth to be sured that you are hired by people that willing to accept you.

Education is not everything. Capability aka ability to do job is more important (see my post on the pinned thread on useful resources). I am a dreamer. I believe that a person can grow and be more than what a person is at the moment. We need to learn to dream and dare to dream like what we used to when we are a child. I am willing to believe that you can grow. Now, you need to believe it for yourself.

By the way, please change your screen name "lazypiggy" to something positive for a start.

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Hi,
What should I said if a company ask me "What can you contribute to our company?" let say for IT support position or Event Coordinator position.
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What should I said if a company ask me "What can you contribute to our company?" let say for IT support position or Event Coordinator position.
Ty.
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How about this,

"I can contribute to the company by doing the job in a professional and productive manner."

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Hi,

How about this,

"I can contribute to the company by doing the job in a professional and productive manner."

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What should we say if we were asked for examples?
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What should we say if we were asked for examples?
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This is where you have to do your home work. You have to show tasks that you had done in the past that is relevant to the job that you are applying and you had completed the tasks successfully.

Do you know how to make a 2 minutes speech about yourself?? If not, you need to pick up a book on "Dale Carnegie".

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Got it. Thanks!
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After introducing yourself, is it alright to ask for the name of the interviewer? That way, we wouldn't have to use generic labels like sir,miss,mister..etc when it's our time to ask questions. Or am I wrong?
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After introducing yourself, is it alright to ask for the name of the interviewer? That way, we wouldn't have to use generic labels like sir,miss,mister..etc when it's our time to ask questions. Or am I wrong?
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You should ask name, job tilte and his/her relationship to the job that you are applying and write down on a piece of paper. You need to ask in a respectful manner.. But, either case, it is wrong to assume that you can call someone by their name even if you know their name unless they say it is okay. So, you should say Mr. XYZ, Miss ABC and so on. For freshies, it is always good to stick to Sir to show as a sign of respect. For woman, Miss is probably better. Calling somebody "Madam" may get you into trouble for woman..

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Ah, I see. Thanks for the tip,dreamer. I guess sir/miss always works...except with our lecturers. Ha ha ha!
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Ah, I see. Thanks for the tip,dreamer. I guess sir/miss always works...except with our lecturers. Ha ha ha!
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The easiest way is to ask for their business cards and then ask how they would like to be call..

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A little etiquette advice for Malaysians.

I notice that many Malaysians like to address themselves "I'm Mr X" or "I'm Miss Y". That is the wrong way of doing things. You do not call yourself Mr or Ms or Datuk/Datin/Dr. That is an honorific that people can choose to call you. Just say "I'm X" and if they want to call you "Mr X" they will, but you on the other hand, should address your interviewer as Mr/Ms/Mrs/Dr/etc.

I've seen interviewers who even call say "I'm Mr Blah" and it puts me off completely.
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erm.. I guess this is the same as in japanese..

U'll never express ur self as I am xxx san... u only say I am xxx... smile.gif

Yes, it's really funny hearing someone calling up to u and say, "hello, this is ms yyy here..."
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QUOTE(spanker @ Aug 24 2005, 10:18 AM)
A little etiquette advice for Malaysians.

I notice that many Malaysians like to address themselves "I'm Mr X" or "I'm Miss Y". That is the wrong way of doing things. You do not call yourself Mr or Ms or Datuk/Datin/Dr. That is an honorific that people can choose to call you. Just say "I'm X" and if they want to call you "Mr X" they will, but you on the other hand, should address your interviewer as Mr/Ms/Mrs/Dr/etc.

I've seen interviewers who even call say "I'm Mr Blah" and it puts me off completely.
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"I'm Mr X" is wrong from the etiquette stand point is because of what culture?? I am sorry to ask such a stupid question but I am too Americanized. On a certain level, if a person is more senior than the person that he is introducing to, he mught choose to do that. Of course, from the American culture standpoint, this is a big no no..

In Malaysia, each companies actually follow a different style and law of etiquette depending on who own and manage the companies. There are American style, British Style, HK Chinese Style, Mainland Chineses style, Taiwanese style, Malay style, Indian style and so on. I used to sell stuff to banks and finances in Malaysia. And, you can tell that different rule of etiquette are applied among the different banks and finance.. We live in a multi-cultural society and it is not safe to take rule of etiquette for granted.

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erm, I dunno which culture.. But in Japan, when introducing urself to anyone, putting a san infront of u is plain disrespecting for japanese...
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erm, I dunno which culture.. But in Japan, when introducing urself to anyone, putting a san infront of u is plain disrespecting for japanese...
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The cultural diversity training that I took said that do not assume anything. Always ask a person how they want to be called/addressed.

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ooo.. great... I'll keep that in mind.. thanks
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do some research on the particular person before any events would be good.....
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TO Dreamer,

wow, i seen the reply of yours. really nice to be taken out. i surely will take as

a reference. BTW, i been call for interview as a production supervisor.

the job mostly monitor the operate, scheduling and ALSO TQM. i not really

familiar with the MNC TQM stuff. and i hope you can provide some guidence for

me. Thanks you and those who help me ~ thanks you !

PS: i know what is TQM but not sure how normal MNC conducting a quality

checking or quality arrangment.
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TO Dreamer,

wow, i seen the reply of yours. really nice to be taken out. i surely will take as

a reference. BTW, i been call for interview as a production supervisor.

the job mostly monitor the operate, scheduling and ALSO TQM. i not really

familiar with the MNC TQM stuff. and i hope you can provide some guidence for

me. Thanks you and those who help me ~ thanks you !

PS: i know what is TQM but not sure how normal MNC conducting a quality

checking or quality arrangment.
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I am sorry to tell you that the last time I do TQM is about 15 years ago and it is probably out of date. First, in general, when you move to other company, the process and procedure will be new, so you have to a new process and procedure anyhow. The new employer will not expect you to knbwo everything. I think as long as they know you have done TQM before, they will believe you can learn their TQM procedure very quickly. But, however, yuo want to be very sure, you try to contact some people in your profession that work in this company to learn more about their TQM procedure.

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to dreamer,

actually i only have 3 years on the sale & marketing which i conduct my own small businesses. i have a degree business administration which i learn TQM in theory.
i do not have any real life experience of TQM. so, i just hoping you could giving me
some extra knowledge. anyway, i read most of your reply and really increase my
thought when i going for interview. Thanks you so much !
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Hi,

I have a question...

I am a competitive person, not in everything, but particularly in both financial, career and personal developement...

I was afraid to mention this last time during my interview, however, I came across a journal that says some employer prefers ppl to be competitive...

Right now my sense of competition is doing me more good than bad as it motivates me to move faster compared to the rest of the crowd..

Is it worth mentioning in a job interview?

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PS, dreamer, I was in MPH today reading "The Millionaire Next Door" book.. It is really very interesting.. Too bad I didn't buy that book as the book seems used and worn out (definitely not worth the price).. Then I bought another book I have been reading there too, "The Warren Buffet Way".. Since u're a book enthusiasts, I believe this book is worth the read (Or maybe you have already read it tongue.gif)
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QUOTE(Geminist @ Aug 27 2005, 05:15 PM)
Hi,

I have a question...

I am a competitive person, not in everything, but particularly in both financial, career and personal developement...

I was afraid to mention this last time during my interview, however, I came across a journal that says some employer prefers ppl to be competitive...

Right now my sense of competition is doing me more good than bad as it motivates me to move faster compared to the rest of the crowd..

Is it worth mentioning in a job interview?

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PS, dreamer, I was in MPH today reading "The Millionaire Next Door" book.. It is really very interesting.. Too bad I didn't buy that book as the book seems used and worn out (definitely not worth the price).. Then I bought another book I have been reading there too, "The Warren Buffet Way".. Since u're a book enthusiasts, I believe this book is worth the read (Or maybe you have already read it tongue.gif)
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What do you mean by competative?? Who or what do you compete with?? Do you have a sense of teamwork??

I am very competative person too. I am competing with myself. I seek improvement for myself everyday. I am an extreme team oriented person. I do not ask whose jobs is it. I will do whatever necessary to make my team successful. I am in a amateur Chinese choir. When you sing together, there are no unimportant person. Everybody has to work together in a very well coordinated way to make beautiful music. What kind of competative person are you??

Competativeness without sense of teamwork is not really helpful in a company.

The very best competative person do not compete with anyone. They seek growth and improvement within themselves.

"The Warren Buffet Way". I did not read that book but I read many other books. Unfortunately, that give me an illusion that I know something about stock market. It costs me 50% of my total savings to learn that I am not capable of playing in stock market. I have neither the knowledge or correct mentality to play the market.

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Oh, thanks for your answer...

About the book, yea, not everybody is warren buffet, however, it's interesting to read about how these elites thinks... Perhaps we could adapt some of their thoughts in our everyday life... This is what I aim to achieve by reading these books... smile.gif
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Aug 24 2005, 11:32 AM)
Hi Spanker,

"I'm Mr X" is wrong from the etiquette stand point is because of what culture?? I am sorry to ask such a stupid question but I am too Americanized. On a certain level, if a person is more senior than the person that he is introducing to, he mught choose to do that. Of course, from the American culture standpoint, this is a big no no..

In Malaysia, each companies actually follow a different style and law of etiquette depending on who own and manage the companies. There are American style, British Style, HK Chinese Style, Mainland Chineses style, Taiwanese style, Malay style, Indian style and so on. I used to sell stuff to banks and finances in Malaysia. And, you can tell that different rule of etiquette are applied among the different banks and finance.. We live in a multi-cultural society and it is not safe to take rule of etiquette for granted.

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It's plain etiquette, I have not in any culture except in malaysia (and maybe Singapore) hear people refer to themselves as 'Mr' or 'Ms', with the exception of 'Dr' and that also is a rarity. People impose the use or 'Mr' or 'Ms' to force respect onto others. Mr/Ms/Mrs is not part of your name and is simply an honorific people choose to give you.

Lets take this out of the interview perspective. I've just met you and you, we introduce ourselves,
You: Hi I'm Mr Dreamer.
Me: Hi I'm spanker, nice you meet you Dreamer
You: That's Mr Dreamer.
Me: Right.... ok then I'll catch you later Dreamer.

See what i mean?

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It's plain etiquette, I have not in any culture except in malaysia (and maybe Singapore) hear people refer to themselves as 'Mr' or 'Ms', with the exception of 'Dr' and that also is a rarity. People impose the use or 'Mr' or 'Ms' to force respect onto others. Mr/Ms/Mrs is not part of your name and is simply an honorific people choose to give you.

Lets take this out of the interview perspective. I've just met you and you, we introduce ourselves,
You: Hi I'm Mr Dreamer.
Me: Hi I'm spanker, nice you meet you Dreamer
You: That's Mr Dreamer.
Me: Right.... ok then I'll catch you later Dreamer.

See what i mean?
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Hi Spanker,

I usually introduce myself as Mr. Dreamer over the phone because I have very high pitch voice ( I am a tenor) and people think that I am a woman over the phone. The Mr. is used to tell people that I am not a woman. But, I do not insist that people call me Mr. Dreamer. I do not object to being call that way either.

I used to do IT hotline support and I get all kind of abuse over the phone by sexist people that think woman is not good at IT.

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yeah i kinda agree with you there. When you want to be polite, you tend to sound feminine. I was in the a call center once too, then i'm like wtf i'm talking like a sissy stewardess. So I used a more assertive, yet friendly, tone. Works great, and it sounds professional too.
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Hi there.
I have a question.
I was asked to interview 3 days ago. The Hr manager interviewed me and gave me some case study to do. I finished the case study but did not answer a few of the question because the question is totally wrong and i have no idea what it means. After all the Q&A, the HR manager told me that they are actually looking for a person to fill up a higher position of the job that i applied for. She then asked whether i am up to it. I took some time to think and answered her yes. Then she asked me to go back and do some sample answer for the question that she gave me. I sent her back the answer 2 days later (yesterday) and then called her to tell her i already sent her the answer.
During the interview. I was not nervous. I joked with her. She was happy all the time during the interview. She gave me her HP,Fax and office phone number and told me to tell her even though i will not send the answer back to her so that she won't wait for it.
After the interview i told her that i am not from this area so i need a frank answer whether that my expected salary at 1.4k is good. She said that she is not supposed to suggest me an amount for the expected salary but in her experience with 1.4k you cant survive here. Then she gave me back the Questinare and asked me to amend it. I wrote down 1.8k

Did I do anything wrong?

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On a different subject on the question, where do you see yourself 5 years from now. I answered the interviewe (another interview not the 3 day ago)
I see myself siting at your place. Is it arrogant? This answer. But i was called back for 2nd interview a day later and was interviewed by a person taht will be my direct superior. I waited an hour for the interview to start and the interview went for 30 min. I answered all their question and asked them back on the scope of my job and what i can do or cannot do when working there. Then it ended and i was asked to wait till this tuesday for the answer and see if i am shortlisted.
Wish me luck on both interview! I want the first job.
Btw. if i want to decline a certain job because i got a better offer on another job after they decided to hire me. How do i do that?

Thanks
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JSM, do you still read this thread?

I have a question do you agree on Dreamer101 comment on do not disclose current/past salary?

Dreamer101 & JSM, do both of you ask the candidate for their past/current salary during interview?

Have you both ever face the candidate who are not telling the salary?
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JSM, do you still read this thread?

I have a question do you agree on Dreamer101 comment on do not disclose current/past salary?

Dreamer101 & JSM, do both of you ask the candidate for their past/current salary during interview?

Have you both ever face the candidate who are not telling the salary?
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I never ask someone's past and current salary. It is irrelevant to me as a hiring person. I know how much the company is willing to pay for that position and how much that job is worth to the company.

In fact, it will make my job as a hiring manager harder (please noted that I am not speaking from a HR stand point) if someone disclose his/her salary. This is because some companies has a implicit HR policy where you cannot make an offer more than 15% higher than previous salary. I cannot make a higher offer to an applicant even if I want to due to HR policy once the person disclose his/her salary. But, please noted that I am a fair hence unusual and abnormal human being. Most people do not behave like me.


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i encounter alot of interview which talking about salary.

for example, they offer me 3k. i say 3.3k to them. so they told me, if after they

conduct interview and find out i really suitable then they call me.

my question is, does they usually give you a salary base on the current market

or lower ? because i every manage to get all the interview done but only the salary

problem. maybe i demand too much ?

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Dreamer. Can you please give me your opinion about my situation? Thanks
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Well, this thread have become my interview survival guide.
I have prepared myself an answer for those interview "FAQ", I never do it in the past!

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I do agree on Dreamer101 comment on do not disclose your salary when looking for job, (I do not know how does other country) but M'sia, I believe it is hard to not disclose the salary.
As other member posted here, it will treat as not coorperative, too protective, or the company HR policy that you must write down your salary figure in the application form. Or without the figure, you cannot go through the interview at all.
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Anyone here try before not to disclose the salary? What reaction you get? cool.gif
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Oh Yeah, Dreamer101, I got question here.
When looking for a job or people, why the interviewer need to know the family history? I mean need to fill up father/mother, sibling name, age, job....
Well, interviewer need to know the background of the candidate, how he/she growth up, what kind of environment the stay, relationship among family......, one interviewer hav told me they need to know how well he/she stay contact with the family, then they can know how good he/she can social with other.
My question is,
1). my relationship with dad are bad, never talk, is it I will not be consider? (which/what job no need communication, no need to talk?) huh.gif
2). does the job relate with my sibling? (some will said they need to know whether
I still need to take care their study or something).
3). But I think as I am an independent individual/object, not related with who when coming to applying job.

I am wonder... and what kind of point frm HR end?



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QUOTE(reveur @ Sep 10 2005, 08:36 PM)
Hi there.
I have a question.
I was asked to interview 3 days ago. The Hr manager interviewed me and gave me some case study to do. I finished the case study but did not answer a few of the question because the question is totally wrong and i have no idea what it means. After all the Q&A, the HR manager told me that they are actually looking for a person to fill up a higher position of the job that i applied for. She then asked whether i am up to it. I took some time to think and answered her yes. Then she asked me to go back and do some sample answer for the question that she gave me. I sent her back the answer 2 days later (yesterday) and then called her to tell her i already sent her the answer.
During the interview. I was not nervous. I joked with her. She was happy all the time during the interview. She gave me her HP,Fax and office phone number and told me to tell her even though i will not send the answer back to her so that she won't wait for it.
After the interview i told her that i am not from this area so i need a frank answer whether that my expected salary at 1.4k is good. She said that she is not supposed to suggest me an amount for the expected salary but in her experience with 1.4k you cant survive here. Then she gave me back the Questinare and asked me to amend it. I wrote down 1.8k

Did I do anything wrong?

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On a different subject on the question, where do you see yourself 5 years from now. I answered the interviewe (another interview not the 3 day ago)
I see myself siting at your place. Is it arrogant? This answer. But i was called back for 2nd interview a day later and was interviewed by a person taht will be my direct superior. I waited an hour for the interview to start and the interview went for 30 min. I answered all their question and asked them back on the scope of my job and what i can do or cannot do when working there. Then it ended and i was asked to wait till this tuesday for the answer and see if i am shortlisted.
Wish me luck on both interview! I want the first job.
Btw. if i want to decline a certain job because i got a better offer on another job after they decided to hire me. How do i do that?

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Hi,

1) Given that HR tell you that 1.4K is not enough, you wrote back on 1.8K, I think that is okay..

<< I see myself siting at your place.>>

2) I really do not how to say this in a nice fashion. What do you have say something this nasty?? It is really bad manner to say you going to replace someone. You could have something like this:

I am hopeful that I could do as well as you and have a similiar position like you.

Don't this sound a lot of better and you are less likely to offend anyone??


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to dreamer

i encounter alot of interview which talking about salary.

for example, they offer me 3k. i say 3.3k to them. so they told me, if after they

conduct interview and find out i really suitable then they call me.

my question is, does they usually give you a salary base on the current market

or lower ? because i every manage to get all the interview done but only the salary

problem. maybe i demand too much ?

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1) Do you really will turn down a job offer just because of $300 per month difference?? Is it really a big deal to you???

2) If it is a good job, $300 more or less will not matter. If $300 matter that much to you, will you be sending a signal that you will leave if someone pay you $300 more??

3) How did you really say you $300 more matter a hell lot also??

IMHO, I will more likely to do and say this.

I really like your company and your job offer. I will accept the job offer at $3,000. But, if it is possible, I would like to be paid at $3,300 per month because of xyz and so on. In any case, I will accept the job offer whether it is $3,000 or $3,300.

In most cases, the way you say $3,300 is probably a hell less tactful that the way I presented.. Am I right???

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Oh Yeah, Dreamer101, I got question here.
When looking for a job or people, why the interviewer need to know the family history? I mean need to fill up father/mother, sibling name, age, job....
Well, interviewer need to know the background of the candidate, how he/she growth up, what kind of environment the stay, relationship among family......, one interviewer hav told me they need to know how well he/she stay contact with the family, then they can know how good he/she can social with other.
My question is,
1). my relationship with dad are bad, never talk, is it I will not be consider? (which/what job no need communication, no need to talk?) huh.gif
2). does the job relate with my sibling? (some will said they need to know whether
I still need to take care their study or something).
3). But I think as I am an independent individual/object, not related with who when coming to applying job.

I am wonder... and what kind of point frm HR end?
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Hi,

I have never come across something like this. What kind of company this is??

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QUOTE(ini @ Sep 11 2005, 05:45 PM)
When looking for a job or people, why the interviewer need to know the family history? I mean need to fill up father/mother, sibling name, age, job....
Well, interviewer need to know the background of the candidate, how he/she growth up, what kind of environment the stay, relationship among family......, one interviewer hav told me they need to know how well he/she stay contact with the family, then they can know how good he/she can social with other.
My question is,
1). my relationship with dad are bad, never talk, is it I will not be consider? (which/what job no need communication, no need to talk?) huh.gif
2). does the job relate with my sibling? (some will said they need to know whether
I still need to take care their study or something).
3). But I think as I am an independent individual/object, not related with who when coming to applying job.

I am wonder... and what kind of point frm HR end?
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There are several reasons I have asked as an interviewer about a persons family, they include:

1) I do not want to employ somone who has close family or friends that work for our competitors.
2) It is important for me to know if the candidate has lots of emotional baggage or other problems with their family. The candidate will have to demonstrate that those problems will not affect their job performance.
3) A candidate who has family that are fishermen and taxi-drivers will not provide the same rich environment for an IT professional that a family of people involved in IT will provide. All other things being equal, the son of an Oracle DBA will be given preference to the son of a farmer.
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QUOTE(jsm @ Sep 11 2005, 09:28 PM)
There are several reasons I have asked as an interviewer about a persons family, they include:

1) I do not want to employ somone who has close family or friends that work for our competitors.
2) It is important for me to know if the candidate has lots of emotional baggage or other problems with their family. The candidate will have to demonstrate that those problems will not affect their job performance.
3) A candidate who has family that are fishermen and taxi-drivers will not provide the same rich environment for an IT professional that a family of people involved in IT will provide. All other things being equal, the son of an Oracle DBA will be given preference to the son of a farmer.
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wow such a cruel reality, my dad is a retiree and now is a chicken rice seller, because of this my chances of securing a post will be reduced unsure.gif
I am absolutely dumb-founded, as i have always say that he is what he is now when asked by an interviewer. I think i should have made up some grand father story

The work culture is not mature if that's true.

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JSM, do you still read this thread?

I have a question do you agree on Dreamer101 comment on do not disclose current/past salary?

Dreamer101 & JSM, do both of you ask the candidate for their past/current salary during interview?

Have you both ever face the candidate who are not telling the salary?
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I do agree that disclosing your previous salary could have some negative impacts. But like most things in life, disclosing your salary could in some situations be positive for the applicant. Let's say your previous salary was 5000RM/month and the interviewer is looking to fill a position they value at only 2000RM/month. That is a huge disconnect that is surely not to be resolved if the position is later offered at 2000RM/month. On the other hand, if the previous salary of 5000RM/month was know to the interviewer they might undertake to learn why the person was paid a lot more than they expected and they may be able to find a more suitable position or make a more appropriate offer. Ideally the candidate would be able to communicate their value, capabilities, skills and knowledge without disclosing their previous salary but few candidates can actually communicate well in an interview and more knowledge is gained by the interviewer "interrogating" applicants.

When I have had "interviews", I sell myself proactively leaving very few questions for my interviewers except "when can you start?".
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Well, I am tired to fill up family details......... sad.gif shakehead.gif
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Thankz dreamer. Incidently enough. I have been called back this morning by the second interview and told that i have been given the job ( or something to the similar effect)But the 1st job (where i need to amend my salary) i still have yet to get reply from them.
I have a question. If i want to decline a job offer after they have called me. How do i do that? Furthermore. Is it wise to negotiate on the salary after they comfirmed with me the job position?

Thankz
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Thankz dreamer. Incidently enough. I have been called back this morning by the second interview and told that i have been given the job ( or something to the similar effect)But the 1st job (where i need to amend my salary) i still have yet to get reply from them.
I have a question. If i want to decline a job offer after they have called me. How do i do that? Furthermore. Is it wise to negotiate on the salary after they comfirmed with me the job position?

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<< Is it wise to negotiate on the salary after they comfirmed with me the job position? >>

1) Absolutely not wise.

<<If i want to decline a job offer after they have called me.>>

2) Somehow, I do not consider a phone call as a valid job offer. But, if you are sure that you want to reject the job offer no matter what, telling people ASAP is probably the best way to go.

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Hi,

1) Given that HR tell you that 1.4K is not enough, you wrote back on 1.8K, I think that is okay..

<< I see myself siting at your place.>>

2) I really do not how to say this in a nice fashion.  What do you have say something this nasty?? It is really bad manner to say you going to replace someone.  You could have something like this:

I am hopeful that I could do as well as you and have a similiar position like you.

Don't this sound a lot of better and you are less likely to offend anyone??
Hi,

1) Do you really will turn down a job offer just because of $300 per month difference?? Is it really a  big deal to you???

2) If it is a good job, $300 more or less will not matter.  If $300 matter that much to you, will you be sending a signal that you will leave if someone pay you $300 more??

3) How did you really say you $300 more matter a hell lot also??

IMHO, I will more likely to do and say this. 

I really like your company and your job offer.  I will accept the job offer at $3,000.  But, if it is possible, I would like to be paid at $3,300 per month because of xyz and so on.  In any case, I will accept the job offer whether it is $3,000 or $3,300.

In most cases, the way you say $3,300 is probably a hell less tactful that the way I presented.. Am I right???

Dreamer
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no, those few hundreds doesn't make any much different. i just no exprience with

salary that why i need some advise from you. and i will took those word of you as

a reference. thanks you so much.
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QUOTE(jsm @ Sep 11 2005, 09:28 PM)
3) A candidate who has family that are fishermen and taxi-drivers will not provide the same rich environment for an IT professional that a family of people involved in IT will provide.  All other things being equal, the son of an Oracle DBA will be given preference to the son of a farmer.
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QUOTE(AMDs-PoOp @ Sep 11 2005, 09:35 PM)
wow such a cruel reality, my dad is a retiree and now is a chicken rice seller, because of this my chances of securing a post will be reduced  unsure.gif
I am absolutely dumb-founded, as i have always say that he is what he is now when asked by an interviewer. I think i should have made up some grand father story

The work culture is not mature if that's true.
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Hi,

I have to respectfully disagree with jsm on this.

1 ) My family runs a small business. I have been depositing money into bank and dealing with small business stuff since 8 years old. That provides me better or equal exposure on the application side of IT than a son of DBA.

2) B was a son of vegetable farmer. Now, he is a MD of a large international bank. So, I do not see any permanent disadvantage of being bornt in a family of vegetable farmer.

Dreamer

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@dreamer So you would not suggest that I ask how much salary after i meet up with them and enquire whether i can get more then that?
So a valid job offer is how?

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@dreamer So you would not suggest that I ask how much salary after i meet up with them and enquire whether i can get more then that?
So a valid job offer is how?
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Hi,

A valid job offer is something in writing. If you are offer a job, ask how much is the salary, what is the working hours, what is the benefit, what is the bonus and so on. Ask for an offer letter and say you will get back with a decision in X number of days.

If the salary is less than what you desire, see my earlier post and how to ask for more in a tactful fashion..


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Ah... Ok Thankz
Btw, Can we have a "Standard Question you should ask during an interview"
That would be nice wouldnt it?
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Ah... Ok Thankz
Btw, Can we have a "Standard Question you should ask during an interview"
That would be nice wouldnt it?
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This is what this thread about. There is no reason why the questions should only be from the interviewer.

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Thankz to all the guides here. I have gotten the job offer and will start work next month. But i have yet to sign any documentation and such.

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talk about standard questions

normally 1st

- talk about yourself
- what you advantages
- why do you think we need you
- willing work shift ?
- willing transfer / relocated ?


what question i been HIT most is :

interviewer: i seen you have a degree in BA and a diploma in Computer / IT.

why you take a degree in BA, why not in Computer / IT ?



help ~~~~~~ i also kena this question ~ 5/10 exactly words !

dreamer, what should i say ? notworthy.gif


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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Sep 15 2005, 07:47 PM)
talk about standard questions

normally 1st

- talk about yourself
- what you advantages
- why do you think we need you
- willing work shift ?
- willing transfer / relocated ?
what question i been HIT most is :

interviewer: i seen you have a degree in BA and a diploma in Computer / IT.

why you take a degree in BA, why not in Computer / IT ?
help ~~~~~~ i also kena this question ~ 5/10 exactly words !

dreamer, what should i say ?  notworthy.gif
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Hi,

What is BA?? BA in what??

What kind of job are you applying??

Please write "I" instead of "i". It is highly irritating to me. You have a degree so please write in a way that shows you are educated...

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What is BA?? BA in what??

What kind of job are you applying??

Please write "I" instead of  "i".  It is highly irritating to me.  You have a degree so please write in a way that shows you are educated...

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ok ok ~ sorry ~

BA for Business Adminstration

applying for system engineer / test engineer
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ok ok ~ sorry ~

BA for Business Adminstration

applying for system engineer / test engineer
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Hi,

That is so easy to answer. You just have to say that since you learn about the computer side of the job with your diploma, you want to know/learn more about the business/application side of the job with your degree so that you can be a good system/test engineer.

Just spin it the way that it helps you to do the job that you are applying to.

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At the end of interview, normally the interviewer will say "do u have any question?". Is there any important question should ask to the interviewer?
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At the end of interview, normally the interviewer will say "do u have any question?". Is there any important question should ask to the interviewer?
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Is this the first interview or second interview?? It makes a difference..

For the first interview, you should ask about the company product and service...

For the second interview, you should ask question about the company culture and work environment. The question will be like what do you consider as a good worker and peak performer character??

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 15 2005, 09:17 PM)
Hi,

What is BA?? BA in what??

What kind of job are you applying??

Please write "I" instead of  "i".  It is highly irritating to me.  You have a degree so please write in a way that shows you are educated...

Dreamer
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Eh? i thought for a worldly person such as yourself you'd know BA is for Business Adminstration.
B'sides, this is t3h internets. Grammer rules don't apply, and your writing in the Hi, form is irritation too, but no one has corrected you so far have they?

To Bugzbunny, you should ask any question that helps you understand your prospective job better, as well as how well you will fit in the organization. Doesn't really matter if it's the first or second interview that you asked this question, as most 2nd stage interviewers wouldn't know what you asked in your 1st interview anyways. And even if they did, it's better that you get some consistent answers. Interviewers, like interviewees, lie about themselves too.

But, please please please, don't ask for the sake of asking. If you have not questions, indicate that you understand everything. The interviewer probably hates answering mundane questions more than you hate asking them.
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QUOTE(spanker @ Sep 20 2005, 04:19 PM)
Eh? i thought for a worldly person such as yourself you'd know BA is for Business Adminstration.
B'sides, this is t3h internets. Grammer rules don't apply, and your writing in the Hi, form is irritation too, but no one has corrected you so far have they?

To Bugzbunny, you should ask any question that helps you understand your prospective job better, as well as how well you will fit in the organization. Doesn't really matter if it's the first or second interview that you asked this question, as most 2nd stage interviewers wouldn't know what you asked in your 1st interview anyways. And even if they did, it's better that you get some consistent answers. Interviewers, like interviewees, lie about themselves too.

But, please please please, don't ask for the sake of asking. If you have not questions, indicate that you understand everything. The interviewer probably hates answering mundane questions more than you hate asking them.
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Hi Spanker,

1) In USA, BA stands for Bachelor of Arts. So, you have Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering (BSEE) and BA in History and etc...

2) If I am the interviewer and you have no question, I will take it as you have no real interest in the job.

3) Frankly speaking, I do not think people can understand everything during the interview. If you ask no question, I will take it as either

A) you have no real interest in the job.

or B ) You are too timid to ask question.

4) You are what you do and write. I speak my mind and I have my opinion. It is up to you to decide what I posted make sense or not.

5) "Hi" - By the way, I was taught that it is bad manner to say something to someone without acknowledging the person first. It is very impolite to start a post withoiut a "Hi" or something along like "Dear Sir/Madam".

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Hi Spanker,

1) In USA, BA stands for Bachelor of Arts.  So, you have Bachelor of Science in Electrical Engineering (BSEE) and BA in History and etc... 
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you should pay a visit to Mizzou? Everyone knows BA is Business Adminstration. In fact, even the school is named that way. But seriously judging from his post, he said a degree in BA. It's pretty easy to derive that it's a degree in business administration, and not a degree in bachelors of arts smile.gif

I noticed you have a habit of using US standards in your own understanding of malaysian language. Better drop that, it's REALLY annoying. Believe me I know, I learned the hard way.
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I noticed you have a habit of using US standards in your own understanding of malaysian language. Better drop that, it's REALLY annoying. Believe me I know, I learned the hard way.
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Hi,

Why learn the Malaysian language?? It is not and will never be the global standard. In fact, it will most probably be Americanized by American TV and movies anyhow..

By the way, I like to annoy people and force people out of their comfort zone where no thinking is required.

What is Mizzou?? Since I do not know what is BA, I guess the statement of everyone knows what a BA is is not true.

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To Dreamer,

Thanks you for the guide you provide me. I manage to get a job on the spot.

Truly, by the style of your guide. Sorry to having this BA issues. I apologize

for both of you, Dreamer & spanker.

It was my mistake, Dreamer was trying to correct me.

Thanks you.
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well, I do follow dreamer101 advise.....
Ask those standard question during interview....
The interviewer was a female ......
Well, this is the first time I feel it coz never happen to me before.....
I ask .......blah blah ........
then, the interviewer face suddenly have a bit changes..... bit annoyed or frustrated....
then the interviewer said: let me ask u a question, why should I hire u?
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Some companies require you to bring your pay slip when interview. Can we refuse to bring or show? It seems like you are not interested with that job if you decline.
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QUOTE(ini @ Sep 21 2005, 05:09 AM)
well, I do follow dreamer101 advise.....
Ask those standard question during interview....
The interviewer was a female ......
Well, this is the first time I feel it coz never happen to me before.....
I ask .......blah blah ........
then, the interviewer face suddenly have a bit changes..... bit annoyed or frustrated....
then the interviewer said: let me ask u a question, why should I hire u?
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so, what the outcome ? just be yourself. say you a capable with this job,

you need this job, you are outstanding.

QUOTE(Show-Time @ Sep 21 2005, 09:00 AM)
Some companies require you to bring your pay slip when interview. Can we refuse to bring or show? It seems like you are not interested with that job if you decline.
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yes, normally they need because they value you current salary BUT you can

deline. I seen this topic before. so search it

am i right ? Dreamer
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1) how abt what u had accomplished during ur time in this particular company? pls explain n give example

2) what was the hardest decision u make n whether the outcome is expected? pls explain n give example

3) u have short tenure with diff companies, may i know why? n what make u think u would stay longer in my company

thks for guidance


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wow.. this is a really good thread to learn about...
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To Dreamer,

Thanks you for the guide you provide me. I manage to get a job on the spot.

Truly, by the style of your guide. Sorry to having this BA issues. I apologize

for both of you, Dreamer & spanker.

It was my mistake, Dreamer was trying to correct me.

Thanks you.
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Hi,

I am gald that I help someone today and my advice is useful..


QUOTE(Aggronax @ Sep 21 2005, 10:50 AM)
so, what the outcome ? just be yourself. say you a capable with this job,

you need this job, you are outstanding.
yes, normally they need because they value you current salary BUT you can

deline. I seen this topic before. so search it

am i right ? Dreamer
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Hi,

1) Just say that you believe you can and will do the job the best that you could..

2) "You need the job" is not something that normally I said...

3) The topic about salary and salary slip had been discussed throughly on this thread.

QUOTE(ts1 @ Sep 21 2005, 11:00 AM)
1) how abt what u had accomplished during ur time in this particular company? pls explain n give example

2) what was the hardest decision u make n whether the outcome is expected? pls explain n give example

3) u have short  tenure with diff companies, may i know why? n what make u think u would stay longer in my company

thks for guidance
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Hi ts1,

1) Keep it relevant to the job that you are applying to. Try to mention tasks and projects that you had done that is relevant to the job that you are applying to.

2) This is some sort of trick question. Answer it like what I suggesten in (1). Keep it relevant...

3) Some possible answers. I do not know which answer is better for you.

A) I was exploring which field suits me better. After going through that many companies, I decided the area that your company is teh best long term answer for me.

B ) I outgrew those jobs and career ladder possible in those companies and I am looking for a company like yours that has a better career ladder and opoortuinies for me to work in for a long time.

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I am gald that I help someone today and my advice is useful..
Hi,

1) Just say that you believe you can and will do the job the best that you could..

2) "You need the job" is not something that normally I said... 

3) The topic about salary and salary slip had been discussed throughly on this thread.
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1) Keep it relevant to the job that you are applying to.  Try to mention tasks and projects that you had done that is relevant to the job that you are applying to.

2) This is some sort of trick question.  Answer it like what I suggesten in (1).  Keep it relevant...

3) Some possible answers.  I do not know which answer is better for you.

    A) I was exploring which field suits me better.  After going through that many companies, I decided the area that your company is teh best long term answer for me.

    B ) I outgrew those jobs and career ladder possible in those companies and I am looking for a company like yours that has a better career ladder and opoortuinies for me to work in for a long time.

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thanks for ur answer

1) to give example is easy but something that make the interviewers think hmm this guy is good...anything that routine will not b spectacular from their eyes

2) same as above

3) it does not provide you the neccessary career path in this organisation..will do..i guess


got one ocassion the interviewers threw a "dead" then i fed up n ask him if he were my position how he goin to tackle? he answer the same as i did if i answer n of course my follow up questions make him dunno how to answer haha...



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QUOTE(ts1 @ Sep 21 2005, 01:22 PM)
thanks for ur answer

1) to give example is easy but something that make the interviewers think hmm this guy is good...anything that routine will not b spectacular from their eyes

2) same as above

3) it does not provide you the neccessary career path in this organisation..will do..i guess
got one ocassion the interviewers threw a "dead" then i fed up n ask him if he were my position how he goin to tackle? he answer the same as i did if i answer n of course my follow up questions make him dunno how to answer haha...
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Hi,

To give example is easy?? I do not think so. To give example that is relevant to the job applied requires the person to do reseach and find out the real requiirement of the job takes real work and preparation. How many people can give an impromptu 2 minutes speech about themselves?? And, do it well??

It takes time and practice. And, if you can do this very well, you can be a very good salesperson.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 21 2005, 06:31 PM)
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To give example is easy?? I do not think so.  To give example that is relevant to the job applied requires the person to do reseach and find out the real requiirement of the job takes real work and preparation.  How many people can give an impromptu 2 minutes speech about themselves?? And, do it well??

It takes time and practice.  And, if you can do this very well, you can be a very good salesperson.

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technically , when interviewers ask me " tell me about yourself" i can talk more than 30m just for that which inlcuding some answers they might ask me during the interview..it is very hard when the interviewers keep asking wat u contributed to this company...from one company to another company...of course not all companies u worked hv gave u same oppournity to improve it....

im a good speaker (geminian ma) im more on professional body..


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QUOTE(ts1 @ Sep 21 2005, 06:40 PM)
technically , when interviewers ask me " tell me about yourself" i can talk more than 30m just for that which inlcuding some answers they might ask me during the interview..it is very hard when the interviewers keep asking wat u contributed to this company...from one company to another company...of course not all companies u worked hv gave u same oppournity to improve it....

im a good speaker (geminian ma) im more on professional body..
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Hi,

Generally speaking, I do not listen for that long (30 minutes). And, if you talk for 30 minutes, I will most likely forget whatever you are talking about and confused what is the main point about you.

Usually, I will know whether I want to hire a person after talking for 5 minutes.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 21 2005, 07:40 PM)
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Generally speaking, I do not listen for that long (30 minutes).  And, if you talk for 30 minutes, I will most likely forget whatever you are talking about and confused what is the main point about you.

Usually, I will know whether I want to hire a person after talking for 5 minutes.

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as i said i can speak for 30m doesnt mean i will not pause to ask my interviewers whether they ok or want me to repeat...5minutes? u employ clerks?
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as i said i can speak for 30m doesnt mean i will not pause to ask my interviewers whether they ok or want me to repeat...5minutes? u employ clerks?
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Hi,

Engineers.. "Orange Juice Test" works very well all the time...

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Engineers..

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To Spanker and Dreamer,

I have a question here that has been raised before by some of the forumers but the reason i am asking this question again is that i couldn't really see there is any effective answer given. So long story short, if you were in my shoes and the question being asked by the interviewer is " Tell me where you stand in the next 5 years", what kind of answer will you give, let's say that you are majoring in the Business with I.T field because currently i am doing this course and you are a freshie. Thanks in advance.

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To Spanker and Dreamer,

I have a question here that has been raised before by some of the forumers but the reason i am asking this question again is that i couldn't really see there is any effective answer given. So long story short, if you were in my shoes and the question being asked by the interviewer is " Tell me where you stand in the next 5 years", what kind of answer will you give, let's say that you are majoring in the Business with I.T field because currently i am doing this course and you are a freshie. Thanks in advance.
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Hi,

Please let us know how would you answer the question first??

http://www.businessweek.com/careers/conten...position=link18

Some suggestion from businessweek

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 25 2005, 10:43 AM)
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Please let us know how would you answer the question first??

http://www.businessweek.com/careers/conten...position=link18

Some suggestion from businessweek

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Wow, thanks for the link, now i have some idea on how i should response to this question. To be honest, if the interviewer would have ask me this question, i couldn't give any definate answer because 5 years is a long time, by the time i gain enough experience from my first job, i would have started looking for better opportunities being offer by other companies rather than staying in the current one.
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Wow, thanks for the link, now i have some idea on how i should response to this question. To be honest, if the interviewer would have ask me this question, i couldn't give any definate answer because 5 years is a long time, by the time i gain enough experience from my first job, i would have started looking for better opportunities being offer by other companies rather than staying in the current one.
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Hi,

Why won't you look for the second job at the current company (first employer)?

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So i wanted to avoid this question, and told the interviewer that i wanted to skip the question so that i can come up with an answer and answer it later, what do you do if you still can't come out with a good reply or an answer by the time he question's you, wtf should you do?
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Why won't you look for the second job at the current company (first employer)?

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I am currently still doing my Diploma course, i just want to prepare myself now before i finish my studies till degree. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ubhm @ Sep 25 2005, 02:35 AM)
So i wanted to avoid this question, and told the interviewer that i wanted to skip the question so that i can come up with an answer and answer it later, what do you do if you still can't come out with a good reply or an answer by the time he question's you, wtf should you do?
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QUOTE(ubhm @ Sep 25 2005, 03:35 PM)
So i wanted to avoid this question, and told the interviewer that i wanted to skip the question so that i can come up with an answer and answer it later, what do you do if you still can't come out with a good reply or an answer by the time he question's you, wtf should you do?
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Interview is something that will test your reflex and how fast you come up with something sensible out of your mouth. I've never heard anyone who will tell the interviewer to skip the question so that he have time to think over an answer. The interviewer wants to see your immediate response and how you react to the question in real-time. If every question can be given ample time to think over, why not they just tell you what they gonna ask, and you answer them the next day...

One thing also is interviewer often don't like people to give lots of...hmmm...ah...ei...and the likes so better think fast, have an answer in your head and say it out in one coherent sentence.
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I've never heard anyone who will tell the interviewer to skip the question so that he have time to think over an answer.

You can, all you have to do is just tell him/her nicely that you want to refer to the question later on.


The interviewer wants to see your immediate response and how you react to the question in real-time. If every question can be given ample time to think over, why not they just tell you what they gonna ask, and you answer them the next day...

Its ok to take a little pause, to think about the question that has been given.

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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Sep 25 2005, 02:25 PM)
Wow, thanks for the link, now i have some idea on how i should response to this question. To be honest, if the interviewer would have ask me this question, i couldn't give any definate answer because 5 years is a long time, by the time i gain enough experience from my first job, i would have started looking for better opportunities being offer by other companies rather than staying in the current one.
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Hi,

In 5 years, when you had gained enough experience, you could be working in the same company but with different position and job.

QUOTE(ubhm @ Sep 25 2005, 03:35 PM)
So i wanted to avoid this question, and told the interviewer that i wanted to skip the question so that i can come up with an answer and answer it later, what do you do if you still can't come out with a good reply or an answer by the time he question's you, wtf should you do?
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Hi,

If you cannot answer the question on the spot, that either mean

A) You are clueless as what you want in life aka you have no goal

or B ) You have a real goal but you prefer not to say it. You need time to come up with a good lie.

C) You have very poor reflex and you did not come prepared for the interview.

So, implication (A), ( B ) , or © are all bad.. It is better to answer on the spot. Or, an answer like I prefer to do a good job now and do not think about the future and let the future take me where ever it might be. Or, an honest answer like I do not know is better than let me answer later.


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Hi,

It is not a good idea to suggest you are going to replace anyone during interview..

QUOTE(ubhm @ Sep 25 2005, 05:42 PM)
I've never heard anyone who will tell the interviewer to skip the question so that he have time to think over an answer.

You can, all you have to do is just tell him/her nicely that you want to refer to the question later on.


The interviewer wants to see your immediate response and how you react to the question in real-time. If every question can be given ample time to think over, why not they just tell you what they gonna ask, and you answer them the next day...

Its ok to take a little pause, to think about the question that has been given.
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Hi,

See above.. Skipping question is not a very good idea..

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How many interviewees actually have the slightest idea about what the person sitting at the other side of the table interviewing you actually does? Typically those people involved in recruiting are more removed from day-to-day technical work and spend a lot of time interfacing with customers and management. It is my experience that while most people would want these people's paychecks, they seldom want the responsibility or accountability that comes with these positions.

Saying you want your interviewers job or his bosses job may appear on the surface to show a strong drive or ambition but unless the applicant is able to demonstrate a sound understanding about what they are actually saying and understand what would be involved in meeting their goal they are instead showing just how ignorant and/or arrogant they are.
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QUOTE(nicwise @ Sep 25 2005, 05:07 PM)
Interview is something that will test your reflex and how fast you come up with something sensible out of your mouth. I've never heard anyone who will tell the interviewer to skip the question so that he have time to think over an answer. The interviewer wants to see your immediate response and how you react to the question in real-time. If every question can be given ample time to think over, why not they just tell you what they gonna ask, and you answer them the next day...

One thing also is interviewer often don't like people to give lots of...hmmm...ah...ei...and the likes so better think fast, have an answer in your head and say it out in one coherent sentence.
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That is very very true. Your brains needs to think for the answer fast and it must be a good one too. The words you use are very crucial in an interview. It's better to pause in silence ( and think seriously) rather than giving the sound ahh hmm etc. Try to be concise and precise. No need long winded answers
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Hey...
I want to know what should I answer if I'm asked "How many interviews have you been before this?". I was asked this question a few days ago. Should I give an honest answer? Thats what I gave the interviewer. I told them that I've only went for one interview (acutally I've went for two but I don't think it makes much difference anyway). They also asked about the company and how the interview went. Or is there a better way to answer?

I have another question. Its not an interview question though but anyway...
A few days ago theres this company that gave me a call. Probably asking me to go for an interview because I did applied for a position there. We were in the middle of a conversation when all of a sudden the line went bad and we can't hear each other. At the end the line went off. I waited for the person to call back but he never did. What should I do? Should I call him back? Because I'm really interested in the job and I've been waiting a long time for their call. Now when they finally called, things went wrong. I'm not sure if the person would even remember me if I called back.
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QUOTE(masterelr @ Sep 27 2005, 03:05 AM)
Hey...
I want to know what should I answer if I'm asked "How many interviews have you been before this?". I was asked this question a few days ago. Should I give an honest answer? Thats what I gave the interviewer. I told them that I've only went for one interview (acutally I've went for two but I don't think it makes much difference anyway). They also asked about the company and how the interview went. Or is there a better way to answer?

I have another question. Its not an interview question though but anyway...
A few days ago theres this company that gave me a call. Probably asking me to go for an interview because I did applied for a position there. We were in the middle of a conversation when all of a sudden the line went bad and we can't hear each other. At the end the line went off. I waited for the person to call back but he never did. What should I do? Should I call him back? Because I'm really interested in the job and I've been waiting a long time for their call. Now when they finally called, things went wrong. I'm not sure if the person would even remember me if I called back.
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I have go to many times of intervview. They will never ask "How many interviews have you been before this?".

If you get a bad line or cut off, Call them back. This to shown you are interested with the job. If you really need that job, you need to call back. Unless same with my case, They use hidden number. So I could not find the number to call back and
I search the HQ number then they say they could not trace the line who call.

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Hey...
I want to know what should I answer if I'm asked "How many interviews have you been before this?". I was asked this question a few days ago. Should I give an honest answer? Thats what I gave the interviewer. I told them that I've only went for one interview (acutally I've went for two but I don't think it makes much difference anyway). They also asked about the company and how the interview went. Or is there a better way to answer?

I have another question. Its not an interview question though but anyway...
A few days ago theres this company that gave me a call. Probably asking me to go for an interview because I did applied for a position there. We were in the middle of a conversation when all of a sudden the line went bad and we can't hear each other. At the end the line went off. I waited for the person to call back but he never did. What should I do? Should I call him back? Because I'm really interested in the job and I've been waiting a long time for their call. Now when they finally called, things went wrong. I'm not sure if the person would even remember me if I called back.
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Hi,

The proper answer should be I have been to a few interviews. I believe I had done well in my interviews. As to which companies I went to interview with and the details of the interview, they are private and confidential. I will rather not to disclose those detail in this interview as I would not have disclose any detail of this interview to anyone else..

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 27 2005, 10:26 AM)
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The proper answer should be I have been to a few interviews.  I believe I had done well in my interviews.  As to which companies I went to interview with and the details of the interview, they are private and confidential.  I will rather not to disclose those detail in this interview as I would not have disclose any detail of this interview to anyone else..

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Intersting. I assume that by answering it this way. You are showing that you are in demand and that they did better offer a good salary to attract you?

As for answering question in interview IMHO you should answer ASAP. I answer all my question ASAP but depending on the question i would ask them to clarify it as to not to give the wrong answer. Because sometime they will give a very confusing question.
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QUOTE(reveur @ Sep 27 2005, 11:38 PM)
Intersting. I assume that by answering it this way. You are showing that you are in demand and that they did better offer a good salary to attract you?

As for answering question in interview IMHO you should answer ASAP. I answer all my question ASAP but depending on the question i would ask them to clarify it as to not to give the wrong answer. Because sometime they will give a very confusing question.
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Yeah, You in the point. Going for the interview is showing you are the man for

the job and that why everyone will prove they in-demand/suitable for the job.

About the salary section, I think they already expect giving you the min/max

before calling you for the interview. Yes, Maybe they will giving you extra /

shorter probations period.

If those not techincal question such like engineer job, I do not think there will

have right or wrong questions.
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QUOTE(reveur @ Sep 27 2005, 11:38 PM)
Intersting. I assume that by answering it this way. You are showing that you are in demand and that they did better offer a good salary to attract you?

As for answering question in interview IMHO you should answer ASAP. I answer all my question ASAP but depending on the question i would ask them to clarify it as to not to give the wrong answer. Because sometime they will give a very confusing question.
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Hi,

1) It is not professional anyhow to disclose the detail of your interview to someone else.

2) This is like any kind of negotiation. You do not tell everything to the people that you are negotiating to.

QUOTE(Aggronax @ Sep 28 2005, 04:49 AM)

About the salary section, I think they already expect giving you the min/max

before calling you for the interview. Yes, Maybe they will giving you extra /

shorter probations period.


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Hi,

This is not as relevant to junior level people. But, for senior level people, there is really not a min/max salary level. Especially, for people that are revenue/profit generating.

If a company believe that by hiring you, they can make 10 times Y more money. They will definitely consider paying you a salary of Y. Budget is not an issue for profit generating person. Now, the question is can you convince the employer they can make 10Y more profit with you??


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If i go for an interview, and they are satisfied with me & would like to employ me. Will it be rude for me to pop up the question how much are they offering to me?
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of coz not.. they choosing u, u also choosing them mar.. but u have to phrase ur question nicely lar.. hehe
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Hi all, I have a question would like to ask you all. English, is it very important in every interview? If someone have the capability for the work, can communicate, but english just cant speak smoothly, is it a big problem?
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Good question. But I heard from a radio talk show quite some time ago ( Hitz.FM) One of the guy that interviews ppls all the time say this. English is important. He has candidate requesting him to conduct interview in malay and the candidate is a degree holder. He said that the guy has discredit himself the moment he ask for interview in malay. So i would assume that english is important.
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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Sep 28 2005, 10:36 AM)
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1) It is not professional anyhow to disclose the detail of your interview to someone else.

2) This is like any kind of negotiation.  You do not tell everything to the people that you are negotiating to.
Hi,

This is not as relevant to junior level people.  But, for senior level people, there is really not a min/max salary level.  Especially, for people that are revenue/profit generating.

If a company believe that by hiring you, they can make 10 times Y more money.  They will definitely consider paying you a salary of  Y.  Budget is not an issue for profit generating person.  Now, the question is can you convince the employer they can make 10Y more profit with you??
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That interesting, so if we are very outstanding. Maybe we could get a high salary.

QUOTE(fraulein @ Sep 28 2005, 12:19 PM)
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If i go for an interview, and they are satisfied with me & would like to employ me. Will it be rude for me to pop up the question how much are they offering to me?
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There have a salary asking in the interview section. They will ask you how much

you need.
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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Sep 28 2005, 08:47 PM)
That interesting, so if we are very outstanding. Maybe we could get a high salary.
There have a salary asking in the interview section. They will ask you how much

you need.
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i'd encountered an interview before, they said wanna hire me... Didn't mention the salary part. Just asked me how is my decision. Then I was some kind of loss for words-- thinking how to ask about the salary.. unsure.gif

If I wanna ask.. what is the proper way?

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QUOTE(herr_low @ Sep 28 2005, 10:35 PM)
i'd encountered an interview before, they said wanna hire me... Didn't mention the salary part. Just asked me how is my decision. Then I was some kind of loss for words-- thinking how to ask about the salary.. unsure.gif

If I wanna ask.. what is the proper way?
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I have encounter few times of interview. Some will be asking your demand salary

in the 1st interview and some in the 2nd interview. I think every company have

their different Interview.

About your cases, Maybe when the interviewer ask 'Any questions?'

I not sure my way is proper or not, Just need Dreamer to giving his opinion.
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QUOTE(herr_low @ Sep 28 2005, 10:35 PM)
i'd encountered an interview before, they said wanna hire me... Didn't mention the salary part. Just asked me how is my decision. Then I was some kind of loss for words-- thinking how to ask about the salary.. unsure.gif

If I wanna ask.. what is the proper way?
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QUOTE(Aggronax @ Sep 29 2005, 07:34 AM)
I have encounter few times of interview. Some will be asking your demand salary

in the 1st interview and some in the 2nd interview. I think every company have

their different Interview.

About your cases, Maybe when the interviewer ask 'Any questions?'

I not sure my way is proper or not, Just need Dreamer to giving his opinion.
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In any type of negotiation, the party that made the first offer lose. So, the proper answer will be "I want to work for your company, so give me your best offer". Let the employer make the first offer.

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Why learn the Malaysian language?? It is not and will never be the global standard. In fact, it will most probably be Americanized by American TV and movies anyhow..

By the way, I like to annoy people and force people out of their comfort zone where no thinking is required.

What is Mizzou?? Since I do not know what is BA, I guess the statement of everyone knows what a BA is is not true.

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I'm referring to correcting people thinking you're still in America. For instance, torchlight / flashlight. People don't like when you tell them it's flashlight, not torchlight. And people don't like it when you tell them to clear the table in McDonalds here, and they definitely don't like it when you say "In America it's bla bla bla". I'm not talking about the language.

Mizzou has one the first (and one of the best) J-school in the country. No, not everyone knows if BA is Business Admin or not, but noboby assumes it stand for Bachelos of Arts either tongue.gif

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I have a question here that has been raised before by some of the forumers but the reason i am asking this question again is that i couldn't really see there is any effective answer given. So long story short, if you were in my shoes and the question being asked by the interviewer is " Tell me where you stand in the next 5 years", what kind of answer will you give, let's say that you are majoring in the Business with I.T field because currently i am doing this course and you are a freshie. Thanks in advance.
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it depends on what your goals are. If you don't have any, then you had better form one before attending an interview. But if your goals conflict with the company's, then you might want to i) reconsider working for the company ii) reconsider telling them your goals. Keep in mind that no matter how well you answer this (or any) question, it may not be the right answer because it might not be the answer your prospective employer want to hear.

So in other words, there's no hard and fast answer to that question. However, if you want some guides on forming your goals, there's a thread in Kopitiam that you can check out.

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Well, I got my offer. HR personnel ask me come to office to collect the Offer Letter.
Yes, I need to clarify with them the performance review, increment, bonus policy.
But normally they won't put in those increment, bonus policy. They will saying this will base on performance to decide it.
How do I or Can I ask the Letter to put in those policy?
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Well, I got my offer. HR personnel ask me come to office to collect the Offer Letter.
Yes, I need to clarify with them the performance review, increment, bonus policy.
But normally they won't put in those increment, bonus policy. They will saying this will base on performance to decide it.
How do I or Can I ask the Letter to put in those policy?
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The best you could ask for is an annual performance review to be included in the offer letter. Increments and Bonuses are not usually hard and fast policies but rather subjective and based on company, department or individual performance.
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QUOTE(ini @ Sep 30 2005, 07:21 PM)
Dreamer101 and JSM:

Well, I got my offer. HR personnel ask me come to office to collect the Offer Letter.
Yes, I need to clarify with them the performance review, increment, bonus policy.
But normally they won't put in those increment, bonus policy. They will saying this will base on performance to decide it.
How do I or Can I ask the Letter to put in those policy?
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Hi,

Depending on how well organized the company is, for an MNC, you probably can get an employee hand book from the HR to read all about performance review system. But, those items will not be in the offer letter.

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I'm referring to correcting people thinking you're still in America. For instance, torchlight / flashlight. People don't like when you tell them it's flashlight, not torchlight. And people don't like it when you tell them to clear the table in McDonalds here, and they definitely don't like it when you say "In America it's bla bla bla". I'm not talking about the language.

Mizzou has one the first (and one of the best) J-school in the country. No, not everyone knows if BA is Business Admin or not, but noboby assumes it stand for Bachelos of Arts either tongue.gif

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Hi,

1) I still have no idea what Mizzou is?? And, which country do you refer to??

2) I am way past the age and time of caring people like me or not. That is the benefit of not caring. I can just say it like it is...

3) I clear my own table at McDonald even in Malaysia. And, I told my kids to do that too. There is no sense picking up bad habit in Malaysia.

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Hi,

We always come across this question in interviews:
"Tell me about yourself"

What can a fresh graduate said, cause the answer samples I saw here are more on what they had learnt/do in previous employment.

I encounter this before:
Interview A: I mention something about my age, education only but the interviewer start asking "how about your family, what did they do?"

Interview B: I told him about myself,my family and what they do and the interviewer laughed!

Should "Tell me about yourself" include:
1. My origins?
2. Early education?
3. Tertiary education?
5. Activities in University? (which i have very little)
4. My family members and their jobs?
5. ???

Please add for me if i left out anything and tell me if there's anything i should leave out.

Thanks.

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1)  I still have no idea what Mizzou is??  And, which country do you refer to?? 

2) I am way past the age and time of caring people like me or not.  That is the benefit of not caring.  I can just say it like it is...

3) I clear my own table at McDonald even in Malaysia.  And, I told my kids to do that too.  There is no sense picking up bad habit in Malaysia.

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hello,

If you used google, the first thing that comes up if you typed Mizzou would be University of Missouri, Columbia. But don't go do my background check there though, I still owe them a bundle, hahah!

It doesn't matter if you care people like you or not, it's a matter of people not listening to you because they don't like what they hear. I clear my own tables in McD's too, but I don't go around telling my friends or colleagues who frequent McD's to clear theirs because it's unpopular to do so, and they won't listen anyway and probably mess it up even more to spite you. So sure, you can say it like it is, but just to highlight to you that there's always a political aspect to everything, but I'm sure you know that already.

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Hi,

We always come across this question in interviews:
"Tell me about yourself"

What can a fresh graduate said, cause the answer samples I saw here are more on what they had learnt/do in previous employment.

I encounter this before:
Interview A: I mention something about my age, education only but the interviewer start asking "how about your family, what did they do?"

Interview B: I told him about myself,my family and what they do and the interviewer laughed!

Should "Tell me about yourself" include:
1. My origins?
2. Early education?
3. Tertiary education?
5. Activities in University? (which i have very little)
4. My family members and their jobs?
5. ???

Please add for me if i left out anything and tell me if there's anything i should leave out.

Thanks.
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Hi,

It is a job interview.. So, tell things about yourself that show you can do the job..

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In any type of negotiation, the party that made the first offer lose.  So, the proper answer will be "I want to work for your company, so give me your best offer".  Let the employer make the first offer.

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Does that mean that if I'm asked about my expected salary, I ask them back how much are they willing to offer me?
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Does that mean that if I'm asked about my expected salary, I ask them back how much are they willing to offer me?
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Heh, that is right idea but you are not saying it in the right way. Please see my earlier post on how to say it..

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Hi,

An interviewer posed this scenario question to me: If you need some information or help from a person in your work, but the person refuse to cooperate. There's no other way you can get the information. How will you handle the situation?"

First thing that came to my mind is to always maintain a good-relationship with co-worker. But if the person is not from my department or even my company. What should I do??

I am asking this not because I want an answer. I want guidance on how to handle this if I encounter this problem.

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Heh, that is right idea but you are not saying it in the right way.  Please see my earlier post on how to say it..

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What if the offer is a bit too low? How do I tell them in a nice way? And what if I'm satisfied with the offer? Should I just say something simple like "Yes, that would be fine."? Or is there a proper way of answering?
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Hi,

An interviewer posed this scenario question to me: If you need some information or help from a person in your work, but the person refuse to cooperate. There's no other way you can get the information. How will you handle the situation?"

First thing that came to my mind is to always maintain a good-relationship with co-worker. But if the person is not from my department or even my company. What should I do??

I am asking this not because I want an answer. I want guidance on how to handle this if I encounter this problem.

Thanks.
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Hi,

You submit the question in writing via e-mail to the person and CCed his/her boss and your owned boss. If you still do not get answer, you escalate the problem to your boss and let your boss talk to his/her boss. This is what boss for. This is called chain of command.

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What if the offer is a bit too low? How do I tell them in a nice way? And what if I'm satisfied with the offer? Should I just say something simple like "Yes, that would be fine."? Or is there a proper way of answering?
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Hi,

1) Until you have an offer in writing, you DO NOT have an offer.

2) Get an offer in writing first before you say or respond.

3) After you get an offer in writing and you think you deserve more, call up the hiring manager and discuss about the offer and offer proof that why you think you deserve more.

4) If you think you got a good offer in writing, just call to accept the job offer and do a great job. You could alway thank people by taking people out for lunch when you get your first pay check.

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You submit the question in writing via e-mail to the person and CCed his/her boss and your owned boss. If you still do not get answer, you escalate the problem to your boss and let your boss talk to his/her boss.  This is what boss for.  This is called chain of command.

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 6 2005, 04:19 PM)
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You submit the question in writing via e-mail to the person and CCed his/her boss and your owned boss. If you still do not get answer, you escalate the problem to your boss and let your boss talk to his/her boss.  This is what boss for.  This is called chain of command.

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Yes, is the correct way!
You know what, I am working on Helpdesk industry. Every job or problem, we will include all necessary party / ppl in the mail.
First, if the problem cannot solve, we will emphasis it to the particular fellow who handle it, if he/she still unble to solve, then we will bring in his/her superior and ask the superior to in charge or talk to that fellow.....
But, I never think of this way when I read fraulein question!!
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Yes, is the correct way!
You know what, I am working on Helpdesk industry. Every job or problem, we will include all necessary party / ppl in the mail.
First, if the problem cannot solve, we will emphasis it to the particular fellow who handle it, if he/she still unble to solve, then we will bring in his/her superior and ask the superior to in charge or talk to that fellow.....
But, I never think of this way when I read fraulein question!!
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Hi,

If you can figure out why you never think of this way and how to prevent this from recurring, you would have learned something that took me 10 years to figure out.

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QUOTE(ini @ Oct 9 2005, 12:17 PM)
Yes, is the correct way!
You know what, I am working on Helpdesk industry. Every job or problem, we will include all necessary party / ppl in the mail.
First, if the problem cannot solve, we will emphasis it to the particular fellow who handle it, if he/she still unble to solve, then we will bring in his/her superior and ask the superior to in charge or talk to that fellow.....
But, I never think of this way when I read fraulein question!!
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It depends. If you CC a copy of an email to their boss, your boss and whoever is involved, and then another person CCs a copy of something, and another and another, you superiors will be bombarded with mundane emails, and most likely won't be given any attention to. Only CC if something isn't going your way, at least your boss will know it is important.

I hate it when people CC emails to things like outstanding orders which isn't even my concern.
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agreed. My organisation, CC emails is a norm. its normal to receive 30 emails a day easily.

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It depends. If you CC a copy of an email to their boss, your boss and whoever is involved, and then another person CCs a copy of something, and another and another, you superiors will be bombarded with mundane emails, and most likely won't be given any attention to. Only CC if something isn't going your way, at least your boss will know it is important.

I hate it when people CC emails to things like outstanding orders which isn't even my concern.
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agreed. My organisation, CC emails is a norm. its normal to receive 30 emails a day easily.
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Hi,

It is easier to filter CCed e-mail and file into some folder with your own e-mail client than listen to some stupid phone call or talk to someone.. And, if someone works for you, you as their boss, should train them when and where to CCed e-mail to you. It is your job..


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its internal circulation...
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So what?? An e-mail client like outlook still can filter the e-mail based on the rule that you had configured.

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true but normally i just give it a glance and delete it.
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If you had two task and the time that you have allows you to finish only one task, what would you do?

Give me a better answer other than prioritizing which is the common answer.
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I had one bad interview few years ago. He was a manager who just join the new zealand company, they do card system.

He asked me, why do you want to leave your current job? I said first of all, I want to enhance my skills where I found my current job doesn't meet that challenge anymore, second is the salary is low.

He then said, if you join my company, after 1 or 2 years, you will face the same problem, then what will you do?

I told him, when the employee wants to leave, it's not his problem only, company bear the other 50% of why the employee want to resign.

What a sucker right?
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Is this the first interview or second interview?? It makes a difference..

For the first interview, you should ask about the company product and service...

For the second interview, you should ask question about the company culture and work environment.  The question will be like what do you consider as a good worker and peak performer character??

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QUOTE(dreamer101 @ Oct 13 2005, 11:46 AM)
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It is easier to filter CCed e-mail and file into some folder with your own e-mail client than listen to some stupid phone call or talk to someone..  And, if someone works for you, you as their boss, should train them when and where to CCed e-mail to you.  It is your job..
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Give me a better answer other than prioritizing which is the common answer.
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Do the one which earns more for the company, or saves more or loses less, take your pick.
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how should I answer effectively when asking with a question like how would U relate ur academy with the job ur applying? what can U apply in the job? I am a frsh grad with a degree in IT course..applying in IT Sales Personnel...Pls advice..
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QUOTE(amytiang @ Oct 25 2005, 01:49 AM)
how should I answer effectively when asking with a question like how would U relate ur academy with the job ur applying? what can U apply in the job? I am a frsh grad with a degree in IT course..applying in IT Sales Personnel...Pls advice..
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Just say something like.... from my communications with working people, many say what they learn in school do not apply in the working world, but 1 thing which i carried from my education and put pride in is my learning ability. I learn as much as I can about what I have to do and to be able to do it well, blah blah blah.
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Just say something like.... from my communications with working people, many say what they learn in school do not apply in the working world, but 1 thing which i carried from my education and put pride in is my learning ability. I learn as much as I can about what I have to do and to be able to do it well, blah blah blah.
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Hi,

IMHO, if I am the interviewer, I will fail you based on your answer. The difference between a hardworking and learning person and a spoon feeded diploma/degree person is that one of them came prepared and do his/her homework.

In this day and age of the Internet, it does not take long for a person to find out more information about the company and the job that a person is applying to. A person should do his/her homework before the job interview and being able to quote specific and relevant task/projet/coursework that prove his/her capability to do the job.

If a person answer me with a general answer, that means the person had not done his/her homework.


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Can anyone tell me how to stand out in a crowd? I mean how to be seen, I know one this is to be confident of yourself and have no barriers but thats not enough, hmmm
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hi there ,

IMHO , being confident is correct .. as for me , first impression is the most important moment during interview ... u should evaluate all the candidates that are competing with u .... dress well , speak clearly , firm shake hand , smiling face , good eye contact ... may be other members can highlight more ...

and one more things is ur personality and charisma ..

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IMHO, if I am the interviewer, I will fail you based on your answer.
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Hi,

IMHO, if you have a pass/fail criterion on your "interviews", you have failed as an interviewer due to your narrowminded prejudice.

And if i was your boss i'd fire you.


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p.s. In this day and age of the Internet (to quote you) i'm surprised you'd say something like "I've never heard of Mizzou" when google is just a few fingertaps away.

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Personality and Charisma is most important, first impression last forever. Usually too friendly is not that good during interviews also, have to be more serious
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hi there ,

IMHO , being confident is correct .. as for me , first impression is the most important moment during interview ... u should evaluate all the candidates that are competing with u .... dress well , speak clearly , firm shake hand , smiling face , good eye contact ... may be other members can highlight more ...

and one more things is ur personality and charisma ..
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Hi,

If you do your homework before the interview aka you do extensive research on the company and the job before the interview, you will come prepared for the interview. Then, you will be confident. Otherwise, you get what you pay for..


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Hi,

IMHO, if you have a pass/fail criterion on your "interviews", you have failed as an interviewer due to your narrowminded prejudice.

And if i was your boss i'd fire you.
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p.s. In this day and age of the Internet (to quote you) i'm surprised you'd say something like "I've never heard of Mizzou" when google is just a few fingertaps away.
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Hi,

If someone comes to an interview and do not come prepared to answer one of the most common question in interview, the person is either lazy or stupid. Neither type of people is required for my company. And, why should I waste my time to talk to those kind of people. My time is valuable. This is perfectly reasonable. If you do not take the interview seriously, I do not take the person seriously either.

I work in networking area. The possibility of mis-communication is always present. Instead of possiblity of insulting you by saying Mizzou is University of Missouri - Columbia, I would rather make sure and ask for acknowledgement.

Assume -> Making an ASS of U and ME.

I would rather look stupid and making a fool of myself but getting the right information than looking smart and asume the wrong thing.


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If you do your homework before the interview aka you do extensive research on the company and the job before the interview, you will come prepared for the interview. Then, you will be confident. Otherwise, you get what you pay for..
Hi,

If someone comes to an interview and do not come prepared to answer one of the most common question in interview, the person is either lazy or stupid. Neither type of people is required for my company. And, why should I waste my time to talk to those kind of people. My time is valuable. This is perfectly reasonable. If you do not take the interview seriously, I do not take the person seriously either.

I work in networking area. The possibility of mis-communication is always present. Instead of possiblity of insulting you by saying Mizzou is University of Missouri - Columbia, I would rather make sure and ask for acknowledgement.

Assume -> Making an ASS of U and ME.

I would rather look stupid and making a fool of myself but getting the right information than looking smart and asume the wrong thing.
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You are not answering that person's question. Why do you want to do X if you're a fresh grad who studied Y? It's a simple direct straightforward question. There's NO amount of preparation that will help you answer that question other than the truth. Like I said, if you're not open to answers, you don't make a very good interviewer. Besides, tell me you know every single company out there, for crying out loud, since you have the internet at your disposal. Most people never heard of Top Glove or SEG International until they went public. some employment agency don't even tell you what company you will be interviewing for until 2 days before the actual interview. So please, spare us your "do your homework" lecture as if we don't already know something that has been mentioned a bajillion times over the past 18 pages.

p.s. If you didn't know what Mizzou was just say so.

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How to answer WHERE DO U SEE URSELF in 5 years time?

Repuatable Managerial Position? Gain Knowledge? hmm
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QUOTE(spanker @ Oct 28 2005, 02:17 PM)
You are not answering that person's question. Why do you want to do X if you're a fresh grad who studied Y? It's a simple direct straightforward question. There's NO amount of preparation that will help you answer that question other than the truth. Like I said, if you're not open to answers, you don't make a very good interviewer. Besides, tell me you know every single company out there, for crying out loud, since you have the internet at your disposal. Most people never heard of Top Glove or SEG International until they went public. some employment agency don't even tell you what company you will be interviewing for until 2 days before the actual interview. So please, spare us your "do your homework" lecture as if we don't already know something that has been mentioned a bajillion times over the past 18 pages.

p.s. If you didn't know what Mizzou was just say so.
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Hi,

The job of a good interviewer is to find out wheher a person is suitable for the job that a person that is applying to. That's it. And, if the interviewer can efficiently get rid of job applicant that is not suitable, he/she is doing a great job.

Knowing and doing are two different things. Why everyone knows that they should do their homework before job interview but 99% showed up unprepared?? Actually, that is good for me. I can reject people quickly and easily..

"direct straightforward question"

You must be joking!!! The question might be simple. But, it makes a hell of difference depending on how you answer it. Compare the following two answers:

A) I do not know.

B ) I did some MLM stuff while I was in college and I find that I like selling stuff to people. So, IT sell position combine what I love and what I learn in college and it seem like a good fit for me.

If you do your homework, you will try to find stuff that you have done before that show that you know how to sell and if possible the product that the company is selling.

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How to answer WHERE DO U SEE URSELF in 5 years time?

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Here is an article site given to me by dreamer 101, hope it helps you
http://www.businessweek.com/careers/conten...position=link18
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Oh cool thanks crystalkit_85, really appreciates it smile.gif
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just one short note, pplz.
don't ever think of memorising any of these Q&A's!!! be cool, be yourself, and have a good chat with your interviewer. they know if you're spitting answers from memory...

and...good luck!:D
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Can you guys help me with one question? If the employer asked ' WHAT CAN YOU GIVE TO US IF WE HIRE U.. or whats the contribution can you give?

all i can think is just commitment... ? sad.gif
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Can you guys help me with one question? If the employer asked ' WHAT CAN YOU GIVE TO US IF WE HIRE U.. or whats the contribution can you give?

all i can think is just commitment... ? sad.gif
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How about "I will do my job with the best that I could"??

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so much about the most frequently asked questions...
the last time i went for an interview the only question
they ask is what is my weaknesses.
the rest of the questions are actually asked indirectly.
preparing for the answer... i think its not necessary.
at 1st i thought its important too. but i didn't do it in the end.
a friend told me- ' at the end of the day, its about who you are.'
i mean you can lie or brag or make believe about who we really are.
im glad i did not prepare the answers to the questions
though i spend a couple of hours reflecting upon myself and regathering my thoughts.
on that day....im just myself.

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QUOTE(calvin_D @ Nov 16 2005, 03:19 PM)
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Can you guys help me with one question? If the employer asked ' WHAT CAN YOU GIVE TO US IF WE HIRE U.. or whats the contribution can you give?

all i can think is just commitment... ? sad.gif
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Maybe you could mention some good qualities about yourself?

For example,

If you were to hire me, you would not just be hiring a hard worker but a team worker as well which strives on moving forward not individually but as a whole to bring the company to greater heights and higher achievements. I will be fully commited to my work and will work hard to achieve the targets set out for me.

Just a simple one smile.gif

Else you can focus on;
- Leadership skills
- Responsible
- dedicated to lifetime learning
- a strong personal vision, goals and objectives
- willingness
- Would not easily give up

The sky is the limit biggrin.gif


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The most important thing is to be able to solve the company problems. They hire you because of specific need. Achieving the goals is the top priority. Everything else comes 2nd.

One more tip: don't sell yourself cheap. It's not only the salary one, but also to self-value properly. Ask specific questions about the job and future prospects. Make sure you leave an impression the company has to compete to get you (through offering interesting package) and thay would get a great deal.

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normally how long is a interview will take? 30 mins?
I'm going for a interview this wed as administrative clerk, frankly, I just finished my form 5 so really duno what's the job all about.
and I duno much more about the interview...
what should I wear ?
a office wear? (I'm a female)

thanx..
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normally how long is a interview will take? 30 mins?
I'm going for a interview this wed as administrative clerk, frankly, I just finished my form 5 so really duno what's the job all about.
and I duno much more about the interview...
what should I wear ?
a office wear? (I'm a female)

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Not too sure about ur position,but for my previous experiences...It's depends on the interviewer...some just need 15~30 mins and some interviews need about 2 hours..lol doh.gif
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just sharing...

interviewers like to ask open ended questions. the answer could be yes or no, but what they are actually looking for is how good you are in elaborating your reasons and defending you opinion.

Take for example:

You have just received a complain from you customers, would you entertain the customer yourself or ask your staff to entertain them?

both options is viable, it is how you reasons that stands out to them.
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just sharing...

interviewers like to ask open ended questions. the answer could be yes or no, but what they are actually looking for is how good you are in elaborating your reasons and defending you opinion.

Take for example:

You have just received a complain from you customers, would you entertain the customer yourself or ask your staff to entertain them?

both options is viable, it is how you reasons that stands out to them.
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i would like to deepen that scenario... sweat.gif

Some people tend to get 'stuck' when they hear these kinds of questions. If the scenario fits, I would go by the 2nd option. If I would to entertain the customer myself, the interviewer might think I am focusing on the wrong areas. (I have staff to do that, why am I doing the nitty gritty details when I am supposed to be guiding my staff to handle that through my leadership role instead).

However in interviews I try not to leave any dead silence after questions, which is by answering as quick as possible. This however means less time thinking = less thoughts to present. (Which might actually be bad depending on the situation)

What do you guys think? I know a lil dead silence is not extremely harmful, but let's say an interviewer poses you a tough question (even to a point that the question's really tricky). You rack your mind to understand the question, you feel the points you want to say out are somewhere buried on your grey matter, but you are just not finding it. Would you keep trying to find your answer thus allowing prolonged dead sillence (you are not even sure if you can find the answer or not), or do you think it would be better if after some thinking, you admit you do not know the answer.

So really the situation is:-

Prolonged silence with possibility(?) of answering the question VS Short silence with admitting 'defeat'.

So, what' it be?

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 25 2006, 11:47 AM)
i would like to deepen that scenario...  sweat.gif

Some people tend to get 'stuck' when they hear these kinds of questions. If the scenario fits, I would go by the 2nd option. If I would to entertain the customer myself, the interviewer might think I am focusing on the wrong areas. (I have staff to do that, why am I doing the nitty gritty details when I am supposed to be guiding my staff to handle that through my leadership role instead).

However in interviews I try not to leave any dead silence after questions, which is by answering as quick as possible. This however means less time thinking = less thoughts to present. (Which might actually be bad depending on the situation)

What do you guys think? I know a lil dead silence is not extremely harmful, but let's say an interviewer poses you a tough question (even to a point that the question's really tricky). You rack your mind to understand the question, you feel the points you want to say out are somewhere buried on your grey matter, but you are just not finding it. Would you keep trying to find your answer thus allowing prolonged dead sillence (you are not even sure if you can find the answer or not), or do you think it would be better if after some thinking, you admit you do not know the answer.

So really the situation is:-

Prolonged silence with possibility(?) of answering the question VS Short silence with admitting 'defeat'.

So, what' it be?
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Jan 25 2006, 11:47 AM)
i would like to deepen that scenario...  sweat.gif

Some people tend to get 'stuck' when they hear these kinds of questions. If the scenario fits, I would go by the 2nd option. If I would to entertain the customer myself, the interviewer might think I am focusing on the wrong areas. (I have staff to do that, why am I doing the nitty gritty details when I am supposed to be guiding my staff to handle that through my leadership role instead).

However in interviews I try not to leave any dead silence after questions, which is by answering as quick as possible. This however means less time thinking = less thoughts to present. (Which might actually be bad depending on the situation)

What do you guys think? I know a lil dead silence is not extremely harmful, but let's say an interviewer poses you a tough question (even to a point that the question's really tricky). You rack your mind to understand the question, you feel the points you want to say out are somewhere buried on your grey matter, but you are just not finding it. Would you keep trying to find your answer thus allowing prolonged dead sillence (you are not even sure if you can find the answer or not), or do you think it would be better if after some thinking, you admit you do not know the answer.

So really the situation is:-

Prolonged silence with possibility(?) of answering the question VS Short silence with admitting 'defeat'.

So, what' it be?
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interviews should be in two ways. i believe that u can have the liberty to throw back questions to ur interviewers until u have a clear picture of the intention of the question- breaking down, e.g the general question into smaller details which is easier to respond to, or till u managed to find a viable answer.

some silence is not that crucial. in fact, the interviewers themselves will sure pause briefly before they can digest ur answer and to ask u another one. as long as u presented urself to be able to think to provide good answer, that one will definitely better than just opening ur mouth and blabbering. the impression u gave during the answering part will be judged as how u will really respond when u work for them, ie. confronting the customer in that example- either will u think of the situation or just merely make decision without understanding the customer's complaint.
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interviews should be in two ways. i believe that u can have the liberty to throw back questions to ur interviewers until u have a clear picture of the intention of the question- breaking down, e.g the general question into smaller details which is easier to respond to, or till u managed to find a viable answer.

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QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Jan 26 2006, 02:14 PM)
interviews should be in two ways. i believe that u can have the liberty to throw back questions to ur interviewers until u have a clear picture of the intention of the question- breaking down, e.g the general question into smaller details which is easier to respond to, or till u managed to find a viable answer.

some silence is not that crucial. in fact, the interviewers themselves will sure pause briefly before they can digest ur answer and to ask u another one. as long as u presented urself to be able to think to provide good answer, that one will definitely better than just opening ur mouth and blabbering. the impression u gave during the answering part will be judged as how u will really respond when u work for them, ie. confronting the customer in that example- either will u think of the situation or just merely make decision without understanding the customer's complaint.
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I once had a phone interview in which the interviewer was talking too soft, or rather my environment must had been too noisy. I found myself requesting himself to speak louder frequently, but really, my requests didn't make any difference. In this manner, I found it hard to communicate and clarify items. In relation to your scenario above, I find it convenient to blame the interviewer on failure to express, sometimes causing dead silence when trying to respond, because I'm still thinking of what he was trying to convey. blush.gif

QUOTE(hans.excel @ Jan 27 2006, 10:55 AM)
it's always good to ask in moderation. interviewers' don't like to feel as though they are being interviewed.
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An exception to this rule is my last interview. It was a 2nd interview session, and the interviewer said, "This interview is for you to ask questions". I must say, I wasn't quite that prepared for this. So, I got the generals' out. Working environment, Company Expansion, Future opportunities. Anything you guys feel I missed out? (The interview lasted 1 hour with these basic questions)
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An exception to this rule is my last interview. It was a 2nd interview session, and the interviewer said, "This interview is for you to ask questions". I must say, I wasn't quite that prepared for this. So, I got the generals' out. Working environment, Company Expansion, Future opportunities. Anything you guys feel I missed out? (The interview lasted 1 hour with these basic questions)
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Cool as that might be, I didn't get selected. laugh.gif
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Cool as that might be, I didn't get selected.  laugh.gif
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Let's say we are asked do you have any questions to ask towards the end of the interview do we query them back on the general questions or we try to further show we are very eager to land that particular job?
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but do not cross the boundaries and start to ask all stuff related to $$$, salary, benefits, OT.
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I don't think its appropriate to ask too early, but one time or another this question needs to be answered... when is this moment?
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I don't think its appropriate to ask too early, but one time or another this question needs to be answered... when is this moment?
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I would think when they want to offer you the position. And from there, negotiation starts. Around 10% to 20% increment of current salary is reasonably acceptable.
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One of the most difficult/awkward question i get asked in interviews is "Where do you see yourself in 10 years time?"

I always screw up at this part... sad.gif
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I don't think its appropriate to ask too early, but one time or another this question needs to be answered... when is this moment?
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you'll be asked ur expected salary during 1st interview. if interviewers do not elaborate more on this matter, restrain from being to eager to know the pay stuff. nonetheless, most companies will have second interview. this is the rite time to ask about it.

unless the comp u go to 1st interview has discussed on $$$, then u can enquire more on the spot.

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One of the most difficult/awkward question i get asked in interviews is "Where do you see yourself in 10 years time?"

I always screw up at this part... sad.gif
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Firstly talk about the skills you might have probably gained during this timeframe... Let's say you are on a sales line, then you might go on about how you will have acquired excellent negotiating skills, as well as handling people skills, gaining experience with Operational issues, etc... Having both of these qualities might put yourself in a very suitable position that utilizes this skills, possibly a Branch Manager.

It's all about ambition + plans to achieve it, so if you're ambitious, you might say a Company Director? (Why not? Just have the arguments why you see yourself this way, rather than looking like you're a pointless dreamer without any plans to achieve it)

Just put these into a nicely phrased manner, and I believe you have answered this question appropriately! smile.gif
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Haha , i do my best in answering that question but everytime i always leave the scene with a feeling of dread lol smile.gif. Still , managed to snag a few. All in all i guess it's more to how one presents oneself rather the answer itself.
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Haha , i do my best in answering that question but everytime i always leave the scene with a feeling of dread lol smile.gif. Still , managed to snag a few.
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I think that happens to everyone, where you look back at your interview and think, "Ah!! I should have talked about that... I should have mentioned about this, etc, etc..."

For e.g, I might be well prepared for the interview, where I have a general idea what to say if faced with some common questions, but at the time itself I can sometimes forget the points!

thumbup.gif thumbs up, if you feel you thought you did perfectly well, but even if you didn't, you are now more prepared to face your future interviews... smile.gif

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All in all i guess it's more to how one presents oneself rather the answer itself.
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Brilliant!

Just to share some things that I noticed from a few interviews:-

Some interviewers are very smart and play tricks on your mind. They twist questions, and sometimes in those moments of your brain freezing up, you realize that you can't answer the question (but really, you know the answer, but the moment of panic has set in already).

Have you guys encountered with an interviewer who in the middle of the conversation opens up and becomes more friendly, suddenly starts making small jokes? Do you think that means the interviewer suddenly feels comfortable with you, and relaxes on the formality of the interview itself -OR- is he playing mind tricks on you, to see how you react, and we all know in interviews you have to act as professional as possible where work is work, and play is play. He could be hoping for some slang slips too for all you know... In that 'relaxed' mood, you could suddenly say words like "lah". "Ya loh..."

What I'm trying to say is that, don't underestimate your interviewer. They are smart people. They are interested in the manner you react. And you don't go wrong no matter what,- if you know how to "present yourself well" and don't think of the interviewer as a fool. *Clap Clap

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One of the most difficult/awkward question i get asked in interviews is "Where do you see yourself in 10 years time?"

I always screw up at this part... sad.gif
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If it's a manager who interviewed you, you should answer, "I'll be sitting at your position/place." biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(zaphod42 @ Feb 9 2006, 09:54 AM)
One of the most difficult/awkward question i get asked in interviews is "Where do you see yourself in 10 years time?"

I always screw up at this part... sad.gif
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that's y it is good to prepare in advance your short term, medium term and long term plan b4 going to the interview
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that's y it is good to prepare in advance your short term, medium term and long term plan b4 going to the interview
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Those are not really surprising questions. You must be prepared and anticipated them.

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If it's a manager who interviewed you, you should answer, "I'll be sitting at your position/place." biggrin.gif

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Your response may have a very mild positive aspect (e.g. showing your motivation) but in most cases unless you can answer the following questions convincingly you will just be showing your ignorance to the interviewer.

1) Please tell me what you think this position (the interviewers job) involves?
2) What skills do you feel you will need to develop in order to perform this job?
3) What are some of the challenges you would expect this job (interviewers job) would entail?
4) Or more simply. What do you think you will be sitting in my postion/place?

An ignorant/arrogant person may think it is a great goal to become a manager but in most situations when they realize what that job actually involves and the challenges, issues that they must face they quickly realize that that is not what they want to do. Someone who aspires to be something that which they know very little of is an arrogant/ignorant person. Most managers want someone with realistic goals and aspirations that are based on a reasonable understanding.

For example, it is very easy for me to say that I might want to be Prime Minister in 20 years but it is completley ignorant for me to say that when I know very little about what PM job actually involves besides some press-conferences and opening ceremonies, etc.

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Thank you for your tips. Becoming a PM won't be my dream. Be realistic ...

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I think jsm just used PM as an example whereby if you want to be in that position, you have to know what it will take and what the job is all about.

This is true, but then a lot of times if we never have practical experience in that job, we will never know the perils and rewards of it. Words from experience people never enough for me.
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I think jsm just used PM as an example whereby if you want to be in that position, you have to know what it will take and what the job is all about.

This is true, but then a lot of times if we never have practical experience in that job, we will never know the perils and rewards of it. Words from experience people never enough for me.
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The last question is "Tell me,why I should give U this JOB??..I said"Coz Im lucky. tongue.gif "
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I went for an interview the other day..luckily i've prepared everything.
The last question is "Tell me,why I should give U this JOB??..I said"Coz Im lucky. tongue.gif "
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btw, anyone have standard IQ questions samples?
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QUOTE(TanSriLowYat @ Feb 13 2006, 09:08 PM)
I went for an interview the other day..luckily i've prepared everything.
The last question is "Tell me,why I should give U this JOB??..I said"Coz Im lucky. tongue.gif "
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i guess the answer should be similar to the question "why do you think that you are the next american idol!" biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(TanSriLowYat @ Feb 13 2006, 09:08 PM)
I went for an interview the other day..luckily i've prepared everything.
The last question is "Tell me,why I should give U this JOB??..I said"Coz Im lucky. tongue.gif "
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reply: "the same reason you wanted to see me today". (whatever that is...)
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if you are a member of the national library, there are many books on interviews, the standard questions interview available. just borrow it for your reading.
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What is the purpose for an interviewer to ask me whether I would continue my studies on Master in IT? What should I answer for the question? I am currently a fresh graduate.
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QUOTE(rubetrio @ Feb 20 2006, 06:59 PM)
What is the purpose for an interviewer to ask me whether I would continue my studies on Master in IT? What should I answer for the question? I am currently a fresh graduate.
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Maybe they might consider paying it for you and at the same time tie you down in the organisation. One of my friend has got an offer by his recent company, they will pay for his degree fees but he has to work there for 5 years.
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QUOTE(rubetrio @ Feb 20 2006, 06:59 PM)
What is the purpose for an interviewer to ask me whether I would continue my studies on Master in IT? What should I answer for the question? I am currently a fresh graduate.
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or maybe they are just checking your short term plan. they will be scared to hire a person who works a short while and then decide to quit to continue for a master degree.
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Btw, it has been quite a while since dreamer 101 reply here. He has the mass experiences in helping you if you were to have any doubts.
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Let's say you are being interviewed for a job, lets say in Singapore, and the question is asked, "Why do you want to work in 'Singapore'?"

Any good responses to this?
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Feb 23 2006, 10:01 AM)
Let's say you are being interviewed for a job, lets say in Singapore, and the question is asked, "Why do you want to work in 'Singapore'?"

Any good responses to this?
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Basically it's just goes back to the true reason you are applying a job in Singapore, then you just gear that reason towards your contribution to the company you are applying.
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QUOTE(TYK @ Feb 23 2006, 12:25 PM)
Basically it's just goes back to the true reason you are applying a job in Singapore, then you just gear that reason towards your contribution to the company you are applying.
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true reason is the higher pay and the fact S$ > RM. I can't tell that can I?

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true reason is the higher pay and the fact S$ > RM. I can't tell that can I?
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btw, anyone have standard IQ questions samples?
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have u all been to an interview and the interviewer was one damn cun chick? and during the interview she started by asking u, 'and i hot?'?

no? me too. just wanna distract ur pressure preparing 4 interviews. now, get back to real life.

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To be honest when it comes to IQ questions, there maybe some type of questions where you cannot find examples of it in the book. Some of them maybe answer related but there are a lot of websites out there providing a lot of IQ questions, ranging from general knowledge to physics to automotive. Its very broad.
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Got interviewed then ask to do spontaneous presentation. they ask u to present what u have done last time.

That's why there was a huge whiteboard inside the board room.
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Got interviewed then ask to do spontaneous presentation. they ask u to present what u have done last time.

That's why there was a huge whiteboard inside the board room.
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they wanna test your presentation skills ma. if you are familiar with normal meeting presentation scenario, you should be fine.
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QUOTE(hans.excel @ Feb 28 2006, 06:22 PM)
they wanna test your presentation skills ma. if you are familiar with normal meeting presentation scenario, you should be fine.
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Yes there will be a lot of spontaneous request to do a presentation. Firstly it lets them gauge you on how you can present (communication skills). Secondly they want to find out on how you would think in terms of the stuff you present. Last time for a bank interview, I was given a case study on some furniture company expanding and I had to do a 5-10min presentation. They only gave us about 20minutes to look through the documents and then make a presentation on your decision.

From what I asked the other candidates on what they talked about, you would be surprised with their answers, mostly related to what they studied. IT students went a little more on the technical side, engineering grads talked more on the manufacturing and etc..etc..
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so how was ur presentation?
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QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Mar 1 2006, 05:37 PM)
so how was ur presentation?
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since he's from LYN, i suppose it was a geeky presentation...

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QUOTE(wlcling @ Mar 2 2006, 06:00 PM)
since he's from LYN, i suppose it was a geeky presentation...

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Hi,
I am new member to this forum and now still looking for job.Have been preparing some of the questions might asked by the interviewers.I need you guys to give me some advices or suggestions.

Q:What makes you think that you have an excellent solving skill?

Q:From what I know you have been a leader for the project.If now you are given another chance then do you choose to play the role of the leader or member?Why?

Thank you guys if you can suggest me how to answer this kind of question.

Thank you.
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y does these questions sound familiar??
hmmm..

i remember
u got it from panasonic?
i went for panasonic interview they asked me these
n also how hardworking r u lol
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mayb you can check out the topic titles (Pinned: Standard Questions during Interview) that can be found on top of the forum page.
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i dont understand what does the model of the car that you are driving relate to the interview...

my friend went to this interview, and she was asked 'what car are you driving?'

does it make a difference?
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Mar 14 2006, 10:45 AM)
i dont understand what does the model of the car that you are driving relate to the interview...

my friend went to this interview, and she was asked 'what car are you driving?'

does it make a difference?
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yes, since u r driving BMW 5/7 series
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Mar 14 2006, 10:45 AM)
i dont understand what does the model of the car that you are driving relate to the interview...

my friend went to this interview, and she was asked 'what car are you driving?'

does it make a difference?
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perhaps the company is unable to compesate you mileage if you have a big car, somemore petrol prices has gone up by 30 cents!
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If one is driving a nice car.. the interviewer will have a different "feel" of the candidates.. Normally rich kids do not really pay full attention to the job as they can live without the job.
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QUOTE(hans.excel @ Mar 14 2006, 01:27 PM)
perhaps the company is unable to compesate you mileage if you have a big car, somemore petrol prices has gone up by 30 cents!
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that's my wild guess as well. they want to know how to commensurate your travel allowances package kua..
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QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Mar 14 2006, 02:00 PM)
that's my wild guess as well. they want to know how to commensurate your travel allowances package kua..
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The company is very considerative if they do offer such commensuration plan.
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but... cant they just set a number, like 300 for petrol?

and if they think that rich kids dont pay full attention, then it's unfair to those rich kids who have good attitudes?
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i had an impromptu presentation too. was given 10 minutes to think what to present, given a whiteboard, pen and white paper (the back of my resume haha).
after that presented for 10 minutes and received positive feedbacks from the interviewer biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(eRiCCa @ Mar 16 2006, 09:42 PM)
but... cant they just set a number, like 300 for petrol?

and if they think that rich kids dont pay full attention, then it's unfair to those rich kids who have good attitudes?
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if you set just 300 for petrol, spending more than 300 means you will have to get out of your own pocket lor
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when filling up form before the interview, there will be a column there for my current employer. is it wise to write my superior name there and tick the box that allowed the interviewver to contact my superior?
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QUOTE(hans.excel @ Mar 17 2006, 01:43 PM)
if you set just 300 for petrol, spending more than 300 means you will have to get out of your own pocket lor
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yea, that at least is fair mar... to everyone no matter what car you drive... else? bigger cars get more eh? isnt that unfair?

QUOTE(harrychoo @ Mar 17 2006, 03:00 PM)
when filling up form before the interview, there will be a column there for my current employer. is it wise to write my superior name there and tick the box that allowed the interviewver to contact my superior?
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of course. so that your future employer can find out more of your attitudes from the previous one... but if your have a negative history... then... erm... but i think it is compulsory? no?
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Just do not tick the box that allows the interviewver to contact my superior. They would understand it because you may still be employed under the company and the interviewer calling your current supervisor might jeopardize your job.
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May I know, when interview, i can ask the interviewer what benefit i get to join your comany? am i too rude?

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May I know, when interview, i can ask the interviewer what benefit i get to join your comany? am i too rude?
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just know when and how to ask. Maybe set it as your last questions...
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just know when and how to ask. Maybe set it as your last questions...
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ok....wat is the best point to answer your career objective? your weaknesses? how you contribute to our company? (for IT job)
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QUOTE(hans.excel @ Mar 17 2006, 01:43 PM)
if you set just 300 for petrol, spending more than 300 means you will have to get out of your own pocket lor
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there are pros and cons to each method: rate per km or one lump sum (eg. 300)

rate per km
-good if travel a lot (normally company compensate 0.3-0.8sen per km)
-but if u travel less, then claim very minimal
-this is inclusive of petrol and travel allowance

lump sump
-even not used up also can take balance
-but like hans said, if use more, the teruk
-normally if petrol claim come in lump sum, i believe they'll compensate travel allowance as well

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QUOTE(easyjob @ Mar 21 2006, 02:08 PM)
May I know, when interview, i can ask the interviewer what benefit i get to join your comany? am i too rude?
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i dun think there's any question out of bound, it's just how u test the water and phrase ur question.

u can turn ur question to sth like this:
i am excited by our interview today. i think we have already an insight on what i can offer to ur company. i am wondering if it's possible to know how my contribution will be valued over here, if u dun mind me asking.

but benefits wise, wait for 2nd interview. just be safe. that time, u can be just plain and straight to point..


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QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Mar 22 2006, 12:09 PM)
i dun think there's any question out of bound, it's just how u test the water and phrase ur question.

u can turn ur question to sth like this:
i am excited by our interview today. i think we have already an insight on what i can offer to ur company. i am wondering if it's possible to know how my contribution will be valued over here, if u dun mind me asking.

but benefits wise, wait for 2nd interview. just be safe. that time, u can be just plain and straight to point..
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ok..Thanks..
another question....
how we know this company base in what country? (mean wat country's company) cause some company profile din mention it. can we ask the interviewer for this question?
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QUOTE(easyjob @ Mar 22 2006, 12:52 PM)
ok..Thanks..
another question....
how we know this company base in what country? (mean wat country's company) cause some company profile din mention it. can we ask the interviewer for this question?
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Ask, ask, and ask.

You can ask anything under the sun from work environment to company structure. Just don't ask personal questions...lol..
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I attended an interview today and they asked a lot of "personal" related questions.

What makes you want to join the company? What makes you want to leave the company in the future?

What're your strong values? What're your weakeness?

Can you work for odd hours (CNY or any festivals), beyond normal working hours and Saturdays?
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QUOTE(wlcling @ Mar 22 2006, 01:22 PM)
Ask, ask, and ask.

You can ask anything under the sun from work environment to company structure. Just don't ask personal questions...lol..
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But i scare the interwier will say you din do research for their company.
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QUOTE(easyjob @ Mar 22 2006, 02:38 PM)
But i scare the interwier will say you din do research for their company.
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tell them u r now researching now and u are getting information from a very accurate source. icon_rolleyes.gif
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tell them u r now researching now and u are getting information from a very accurate source.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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ok...
i found there is a tough question for me. wat is ur weaknesses. for me i just able to answer i'm fresh and lack in experience. am i correct? or wat is the right way to answer? for IT job.
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QUOTE(easyjob @ Mar 22 2006, 02:38 PM)
But i scare the interwier will say you din do research for their company.
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Ask questions that are not general, but perhaps more in-depth.

(I'm not really good in IT so this paragraph is a bit vague)
For e.g, in the IT line, let's say network field, you can ask about the current infrastructure. But then you really need to ask like you're asking something that's relevant to you... for e.g, if the answer is somehow implying that the infrastructure is really big/crucial, then make relevant comments like "Seems that the current structure is complying for the demand of a high-paced workforce". Most possibly your reply will be something like "Yup, its crucial that networks are not congested since we particularly focus on having instantaneous transactions for our XXX system since they support customer enquiries, etc, etc" From there, you can start saying things that can actually prove that you did your research like "I heard of the XXX system before, i believe its the backbone for global operations, correct?".... wooo... see how it goes??? You're actually having a very nice 'chat' session that will look good on your part.... biggrin.gif

Weaknesses? That's a tough one... Really needs to depend on what you're applying for.
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QUOTE(easyjob @ Mar 22 2006, 03:55 PM)
ok...
i found there is a tough question for me. wat is ur weaknesses. for me i just able to answer i'm fresh and lack in experience. am i correct? or wat is the right way to answer? for IT job.
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i've been asked this questions few times. most of the times i tried to joke to evade answering. but too bad, the interviewers laughed but still wanted answers! cry.gif

i think all the old-timers here have already put it bluntly and to the point- be honest. if u know ur weaknesses, do tell. BUT DO NOT STOP THERE . add in how you are going to overcome that weaknesses.

or if u feel u urself too perfect of any weaknesses, then try to think of a positive trait of yours and inverted it. ie. if you are efficient at all cost, tell that u sometimes tend to be aggressive. aggressive = get work done fast.

the point is to create a positive image of urself. if damage needs to be done, do it, but at least u must do some damage-control.

well, there goes my opinion again. please feel free to correct me if i am wrong.
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After 2weeks from 1st interview in this company, I being told to go for lunch session at the company on this wednesday, but I never heard before lunch session? Is it an interview as well? What should I expect?

What questions should I ask? Almost all the questions list in this thread I had asked in previous interview. eg. working environment, culture, company profile, organisation, core technology, the most profit division and etc

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lunch session...? just enjoy your free lunch and get along (chit-chat) with the rest...
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lunch session...? just enjoy your free lunch and get along (chit-chat) with the rest...
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but should not be that simple right? I take leave just to go for the free lunch?!!
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got an interview for R&D exec at Perodua rawang tomorrow noon..It strange..my major was operations management,minor bussiness admin..how come they offer me taht position..for sure I dont know to answer all questions regarding R&D and art n design...

help me!!!!
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QUOTE(musangpulut @ Mar 28 2006, 12:29 PM)
got an interview for R&D exec at Perodua rawang tomorrow noon..It strange..my major was operations management,minor bussiness admin..how come they offer me taht position..for sure I dont know to answer all questions regarding R&D and art n design...

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dat mean I has to sell myself another ways e.g my strength?? I will give my best shot 2morrow!

If I got dat position..for god sake I will change the ugly bumper ass of MYVI!!hahahahah
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QUOTE(musangpulut @ Mar 28 2006, 02:25 PM)
dat mean I has to sell myself another ways e.g my strength?? I will give my best shot 2morrow!

If I got dat position..for god sake I will change the ugly bumper ass of MYVI!!hahahahah
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I guess you have no choice since your academic background doesn't really fit the job description.
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or maybe I can ask for other position in Perodua dat better suit my academic background such as logistic or supply mgt..ermmm
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or maybe I can ask for other position in Perodua dat better suit my academic background such as logistic or supply mgt..ermmm
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Well, if it's within the same department, you may have a try on that.

But if it's not, I guess it may be a little difficult in doing so.
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Just passed the Perodua interview..has to answer the IQ test,personality test and face to face interview..

ermm does asking me when I can start working is the good sign?? result will be known in 2 weeks time...
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good for u for passing thru the interview. do hope, but remember it's not confirmed. when can start work is a normal question, but can be also a very clear indicator if the interviewer ask in a very positive way. very eager. then u know la.

else, just pray pray and play play!
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That question is an ordinary question and some put that in the application form.
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Hi everyone,

I'll be going for an interview with Ericsson next Monday. They are recruiting Trainer (3G if I remember correctly). This would be my 2nd formal interview. The previous one was a Taiwan-based game development company, which the interview was conducted in his native-Mandarin and my broken-Mandarin. It was sort of a chatting rather than a serious interview. My uncle sent in my resume for me because he used to work there. The interviewers will mostly ask for a short presentation.

Currently, I am taking MCSE under government grant and would like to finish it first and it still has around 1 and a half month which I had stated in my resume. If the interviewer(s) do not ask, is it necessary for me to speak it out? When they ask for my weaknesses, I've been advised to be honestly but try to turn my weaknesses into something that can helps motivated me. I've searched the information/background/services offered of the company. Now, I'm worrying about the questions about myself and stuffs like that such as, how do you think you'll fit in the position. I have no prior experience in giving training.

Anyway, I planned to wear pantsuit and blouse for interview but still can't figure out what should I bring. A simple briefcase (looks similar to those typical, black notebook bag), or just a handbag and my documents in a plastic folder or just a brown envelope?

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just be calm. dont fret or anticipate too much what they will ask. yes, it's good to analyse ur future employer, but do not try to think what they'll ask. we wont know. as long as we know sth, then should be ok. i assume if u know urself also la. at least we will be able to answer WHEN being asked NOT NOW. we wont know until being asked.

anyway, i believe the interviewer would want u to be able to answer their questions. do ask them to clarify/rephrase the question. diff perspective, u may be able to understand and answer. no sweat.

clothing. hmm. i guess u r a gal then. if u ask me what to wear, then i'll be able to help you to decide on da spot! ;p haha. i would want u to don those cute uniform or like sailormoon, and no need casing or handbag, just some whips. opps. did i just say that? ;p

i would prefer plastic folder/file rather than brown bag. personal preference.

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Yeah, my uncle to talked to me during the dinner about the interview.. something like preview lah but I'm not expecting him to tell me what kind of questions they're going to ask. I just told him, I'll answer when ask. xD

No, I'll definitely would not wear like that. laugh.gif But anyway, I've decided to don a white blouse with simple pink vertical pattern (not to "flower-ry") and a black pantsuit and the shoe.. not sure what that is called, a cover-toe "shoe".. Although I had read from some source that it is better to wear those so-called professional colour (dark tone) like black, grey, etc. but I feel like I'm too "dark" if I wear so. About the bag, I've finally found my black leather briefcase-like bag after digging for it in my wardrobe! rclxms.gif

Can you tell me what are those questions that interviewees should ask?
1) When can I expect the outcome of the interview?
other that 'expect', any other better word to replace it?
2) Can you tell me more about the job?
3) What kind of training that will be provided if I'm selected for the job or what kind of trainings that I can expect from the company?
I think the first should sound better and more polite, what do you think?
4) Anything else?

Thanks again.

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do you think its better not to write our previous job salary on the resume and don't even have to answer them if asked? how will you response?

I feel once we mention our previous job salary , we will have disadvantage to get the expected salary.
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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 31 2006, 12:07 AM)
do you think its better not to write our previous job salary on the resume and don't even have to answer them if asked? how will you response?

I feel once we mention our previous job salary , we will have disadvantage to get the expected salary.
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Some application forms have that section on it. I'm also wondering this too.
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according to what i have read previously in my research, the mat salleh mentioned that its better not to tell them that because it has nothing to do with your current job application but .. you all know lah.. malaysian bosses and even overseas graduate just have to ask you .. very pak kua! no respect for the person he interview

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QUOTE(hackwire @ Mar 31 2006, 09:05 AM)
according to what i have read previously in my research, the mat salleh mentioned that its better not to tell them that because it has nothing to do with your current job application but .. you all know lah.. malaysian bosses and even overseas graduate just have to ask you .. very pak kua! no respect for the person he interview
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Well, not even to write it down in the application form?

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What should I tell them when they ask for my expected salary? Is this - "As I'm a fresh graduate without prior experience, I am not so sure ... bla bla bla", okay?

Thanks!
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Mar 31 2006, 10:43 AM)
What should I tell them when they ask for my expected salary? Is this - "As I'm a fresh graduate without prior experience, I am not so sure ... bla bla bla", okay?

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The same question also appears in same application. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 11:45 AM)
The same question also appears in same application.  sweat.gif
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what do you mean? unsure.gif rolleyes.gif
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what do you mean? unsure.gif  rolleyes.gif
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1. Expected salary.
2. Salary from your previous job(s).
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I manage to secure 2nd round interview at perodua next tuesday..just now call me that there is another exec position option for me..and that mean a related-to-my-course-position aiya..has to go to Rawang again.....
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 12:27 PM)
I meant the two questions from your two previous posts also appeared in the application form for a job in some companies.

1. Expected salary.
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I manage to secure 2nd round interview at perodua next tuesday..just now call me that there is another exec position option for me..and that mean a related-to-my-course-position  aiya..has to go to Rawang again.....
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Congrats! Wish you best of luck and all the best! rclxms.gif
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Oh, sorry. Well, I guess these are the normal of "must-ask" questions in every interview.
Congrats! Wish you best of luck and all the best! rclxms.gif
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Not sure if anyone notice this article in The Star today. Just in time for my interview next week. laugh.gif There are five BIG questions which had been discussed in the thread earlier. Well, not sure if I can post it here. If not please let me know.
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What are you strength?
Think ahead of what you will say if they ask you that question. During an interview my daughter was asked this question in a different way. Her question was "what would your colleagues least like about you?" For a question like this, it may be wise to turn negative trait into a positive characteristics.

For instance, if you are impatient then it will be good to say that you are impatient with people who are not focused and disciplined about work. You are impatient with people who do not meet work deadlines. If you are disorganised, use the creative card to say that you are more rightbrain that left and there is order in you chaos.

Why should we hire you?
Here are some of the possible answers you can say with conviction: a quick learner, highly motivated, willing to accept challenges, focused about learning new things, willing to travel, will not watch the clock, will be willing to work anywhere, have the ability to get along with people, have good communication skills, have leadership skills, very disciplined, have great energy to work in order to learn something new, etc.

Where do you see yourself in five years down the line?
You must talk about what you want to do or dream about doing, even if in reality you change your mind after two years and it does not happen. The point here is to have a plan of action.

What was the hardest think you have ever faced in you life?
This question calls for personal experiences and ther interviewer wants to know if you are capable of making hard choices and surviving tough times. You can talk about failing exams or not making the grade in getting the course you want, and having to make do with a second choice. It could be having to work and study, and struggling to make ends meet.

Article by Datin T. D. Ampikaipakan
Featured on The Star's StarTwo - Lifestyle (Pg. T26)

The rest of the article featured a few real-life interview experiences and some advices such as be prepared for surprises, e.g. an employer once asked the interviewee how M&M's were made. blink.gif The last phrase; "In the end, the interviewer wants to know whether you can keep cool and think logically. The answer is irrelevant. Go out there and get the job!" rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(boringpig @ Mar 31 2006, 09:20 PM)
Not sure if anyone notice this article in The Star today. Just in time for my interview next week. laugh.gif There are five BIG questions which had been discussed in the thread earlier. Well, not sure if I can post it here. If not please let me know.

The rest of the article featured a few real-life interview experiences and some advices such as be prepared for surprises, e.g. an employer once asked the interviewee how M&M's were made. blink.gif The last phrase; "In the end, the interviewer wants to know whether you can keep cool and think logically. The answer is irrelevant. Go out there and get the job!" rclxms.gif
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Very good input you have there, thanks for posting it up. It has enlightened me a lot. I have been to some interviews during my college break, the toughest question that i have encounter would be the question about " Tell me about your strength and weaknesses". I am like OMG, i can't be telling him about my downside, but by the end of the day i manage to get through the interview process.
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Mar 30 2006, 09:29 PM)
Yeah, my uncle to talked to me during the dinner about the interview.. something like preview lah but I'm not expecting him to tell me what kind of questions they're going to ask. I just told him, I'll answer when ask. xD

No, I'll definitely would not wear like that. laugh.gif But anyway, I've decided to don a white blouse with simple pink vertical pattern (not to "flower-ry") and a black pantsuit and the shoe.. not sure what that is called, a cover-toe "shoe".. Although I had read from some source that it is better to wear those so-called professional colour (dark tone) like black, grey, etc. but I feel like I'm too "dark" if I wear so. About the bag, I've finally found my black leather briefcase-like bag after digging for it in my wardrobe!  rclxms.gif

Can you tell me what are those questions that interviewees should ask?
1) When can I expect the outcome of the interview?
other that 'expect', any other better word to replace it?
2) Can you tell me more about the job?
3) What kind of training that will be provided if I'm selected for the job or what kind of trainings that I can expect from the company?
I think the first should sound better and more polite, what do you think?
4) Anything else?

Thanks again.
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1. when can I expect to hear from you?
2. be more specific. if u ask that, I also cincai answer. u may want to ask job scope or the hierarchy level.
3. urs is ok.
4. eh, u gonna ask ur interviewer that question? cool! let me know how they reply.

well, few more days to ur big day. keep us updated k? have a nice weekend!
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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Mar 31 2006, 10:50 PM)
Very good input you have there, thanks for posting it up. It has enlightened me a lot. I have been to some interviews during my college break, the toughest question that i have encounter would be the question about " Tell me about your strength and weaknesses". I am like OMG, i can't be telling him about my downside, but by the end of the day i manage to get through the interview process.
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I also faced the same question also. I was trying to cover my weakness with a good fabrication. Dangerous question indeed.
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QUOTE(crystal_kit85 @ Mar 31 2006, 10:50 PM)
Very good input you have there, thanks for posting it up. It has enlightened me a lot. I have been to some interviews during my college break, the toughest question that i have encounter would be the question about " Tell me about your strength and weaknesses". I am like OMG, i can't be telling him about my downside, but by the end of the day i manage to get through the interview process.
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Lol.. those are the questions that I'm still struggling to find out the way to answer it! How did you answered that? Mind to share? Thanks!
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1. when can I expect to hear from you?
2. be more specific. if u ask that, I also cincai  answer. u may want to ask job scope or the hierarchy level.
3. urs is ok.
4. eh, u gonna ask ur interviewer that question? cool! let me know how they reply.

well, few more days to ur big day. keep us updated k? have a nice weekend!
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nolah.. I'm actually asking you guys if there is any other questions that I should ask at the end of the interview. laugh.gif

My first interview. Don't want to goof up my chances.

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Lol.. those are the questions that I'm still struggling to find out the way to answer it! How did you answered that? Mind to share? Thanks!
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I guess everybody has its own unique way of answering this kind of very subjective question.
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I guess everybody has its own unique way of answering this kind of very subjective question.
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Yeah, I know. Trying to get some ideas to create my own. Haha XD
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Yeah, I know. Trying to get some ideas to create my own. Haha XD
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Well, it may not suit you as my weaknesses might not be your weakness or vice versa. Try to be original. biggrin.gif
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Well, it may not suit you as my weaknesses might not be your weakness or vice versa. Try to be original. biggrin.gif
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Nolah, I'm not trying to copy all the weaknesses of others to make it my own. Just want to see they way they answered and try to get some idea how to answer mine. Well, I'm constructing my list of Q&A's. xD
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Nolah, I'm not trying to copy all the weaknesses of others to make it my own. Just want to see they way they answered and try to get some idea how to answer mine. Well, I'm constructing my list of Q&A's. xD
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I didn't say that you're copying. What I meant that this type of questions can be considered as spontantaneous type of questions ... and you might not be giving the same set of "scripted" answer for each interview you went for. Got what I meant?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 11:10 PM)
I didn't say that you're copying. What I meant that this type of questions can be considered as spontantaneous type of questions ... and you might not be giving the same set of "scripted" answer for each interview you went for. Got what I meant?
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Construct a list of Q&A's to practise but not expecting that I'll be getting the same set of questions.
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Yeah, I know what you mean. Construct a list of Q&A's to practise but not expecting that I'll be getting the same set of questions.
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Good effort but it's might be a very wide scope. Some interviews are short and direct to points while others are very comprehensive which they ask from A to Z.

It's also differs on who is interviewing you; HR staffs, manager, technical personnel.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 11:21 PM)
Good effort but it's might be a very wide scope. Some interviews are short and direct to points while others are very comprehensive which they ask from A to Z.

It's also differs on who is interviewing you; HR staffs, manager, technical personnel.
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Yup. Wanna prepare myself to answering questions. Haha laugh.gif
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Yup. Wanna prepare myself to answering questions. Haha laugh.gif
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Usually technical interview/questions are tough where they asked something you learnt 3-5 years ago and you can't recall even tough you prepared for it or you didn't prepare at all.

For questions from HR person, you may still use your creative skills to come out with an on-the-spot answer.
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 31 2006, 11:43 PM)
Usually technical interview/questions are tough where they asked something you learnt 3-5 years ago and you can't recall even tough you prepared for it or you didn't prepare at all.

For questions from HR person, you may still use your creative skills to come out with an on-the-spot answer.
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Hopefully, there would not be too many of these kind of questions. laugh.gif

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the question that i hate most come from HR : If other company offer you a better pay, will you job-hopping? LOL
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the question that i hate most come from HR : If other company offer you a better pay, will you job-hopping? LOL
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To boringpig,

To be honest i didn't know how i did it but i just came out with it spontaneously, just try to use your strength and manipulate it into your weakness where by the end of the day the interviewer himself couldn't figure out if that answer is really a weakness or not. Kind of hard to explain look through this website for further understanding >> http://www.businessweek.com/careers/conten...position=link18
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To boringpig,

To be honest i didn't know how i did it but i just came out with it spontaneously, just try to use your strength and manipulate it into your weakness where by the end of the day the interviewer himself couldn't figure out if that answer is really a weakness or not. Kind of hard to explain look through this website for further understanding >> http://www.businessweek.com/careers/conten...position=link18
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Do you mean manipulate weaknesses into a strength value? unsure.gif sweat.gif

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Do you mean manipulate weaknesses into a strength value? unsure.gif sweat.gif
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Meaning try to not mention your weakness pretty obvious and camouflage it with ways to improve the weakenss you mentioned and etc.

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Be careful on this type of questions. It's a trap!
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you know, one of my colleague get interviewed last time by few technical persons and a HR personel, the HR keeps on asking will u job hopping if got better pay next time, he keep on beat the bush and the HR keep on asking, then the technical person said, if i got better pay, i also job-hop lah...lol laugh.gif
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you know, one of my colleague  get interviewed last time by few technical persons and a HR personel, the HR keeps on asking will u job hopping if got better pay next time, he keep on beat the bush and the HR keep on asking, then the technical person said, if i got better pay, i also job-hop lah...lol  laugh.gif
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Perhaps the HR personnel wanted to test his honesty and answering skill by keep on pushing him to answer that cunning question. sweat.gif
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So did you guys really give out your previous job salary information when they ask?

how are you going to reply them if they ask?
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I'm going to interview at 12 noon today.. should be going out early around 9 am, scared later I wander off to somewhere else instead of Cyberjaya. Anyway, few days earlier were still okay. Now beginning to feel nervous. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Apr 3 2006, 12:43 AM)
I'm going to interview at 12 noon today.. should be going out early around 9 am, scared later I wander off to somewhere else instead of Cyberjaya. Anyway, few days earlier were still okay. Now beginning to feel nervous. sweat.gif
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Back!

Finally realised, malaysia's road sign cannot be totally trusted! I had found my way to Cyberjaya though but there was not enough signs and I exited Cyberjaya and into Putrajaya when there is a road sign showing the way to Cyberjaya.. hidden among the branches of trees. Again, went through Putrajaya, exited and into Cyberjaya. It will take me more than an hour to go there if I was not driving at 130 along the NKVE.

Back to the topic. I went in there. It was a meeting room with a long oval table and lots of chairs. Three persons interviewed me which I think quite funny.. a Chinese, a Indian and a Malay, all middle-aged man. Only the Chinese and Indian spoke a lot.
  • Tell us about yourself.
  • What had you studied?
  • Have you been exposed to systems like Unix, Solaris, etc.?
  • Have you been working with networking. If yes, what types of signaling did you use?
  • What is your ambition? Do you have plan before to be a trainer?

Then they Indian guy was like trying to scared me by trying to tell me about the things a trainer will experienced, pressures, commitment, etc. Then asked, "Do you still want to do this?"

The interview lasted for 30 minutes. At the end, the Chinese guy told me they will call me in 2 weeks time, if I'm selected, for a second interview which will be interview by their boss and HR manager. Finally, when they asked if I have any question to ask.. I asked how did I present myself. Kinda embarassing though. The Chinese guy said I'm kinda nervous as he saw me hold my bag so tightly but overall they said I did answered my questions well which I do not think so.

Well, just hope that I'll do better next time! laugh.gif
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boringpig,

it's time for you to compose a follow-up email now. send it tomolo morning.. hehehe that's what i've been told by iZuDeeN and David83

having my interview tomolo.. time to read up something from ere... sweat.gif
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haha. i found the road signs to cyber is ok. but when wanna go back home, teruk. i twice went into putrajaya.

boringpig, good for u for surviving the interview! do look for other jobs in da mean time. gambateh!
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post Apr 3 2006, 07:55 PM

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QUOTE(goliath @ Apr 3 2006, 04:49 PM)
boringpig,

it's time for you to compose a follow-up email now. send it tomolo morning.. hehehe that's what i've been told by iZuDeeN and David83

having my interview tomolo.. time to read up something from ere... sweat.gif
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Hmm... but I was too nervous I guess.. until I had forgotten to get their contact.. rclxub.gif

QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Apr 3 2006, 05:56 PM)
haha. i found the road signs to cyber is ok. but when wanna go back home, teruk. i twice went into putrajaya.

boringpig, good for u for surviving the interview! do look for other jobs in da mean time. gambateh!
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I mean, the road signs from KL up to the entrance of Cyberjaya and Putrajaya are fine but when inside, I didn't notice any road name's sign or directional sign indicating different sections in Cyberjaya. I had to make a BIG (it's a real big) turn to go back Cyberjaya and turned into LKW instead of going straight. rclxub.gif
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when being asked "why you want to quit your job or change job?", is it ok for me to answer "I feel that my technical skill not improve much with my current employment as there are not much project" ??
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QUOTE(boringpig @ Apr 3 2006, 07:55 PM)
Hmm... but I was too nervous I guess.. until I had forgotten to get their contact.. rclxub.gif
I mean, the road signs from KL up to the entrance of Cyberjaya and Putrajaya are fine but when inside, I didn't notice any road name's sign or directional sign indicating different sections in Cyberjaya. I had to make a BIG (it's a real big) turn to go back Cyberjaya and turned into LKW instead of going straight. rclxub.gif
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that's true.

but u din get the interviewer email? did u send ur resume using email? if yes, u can use back that email.

otherwise snail mail?
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QUOTE(one.good.guy @ Apr 4 2006, 12:16 AM)
that's true.

but u din get the interviewer email? did u send ur resume using email? if yes, u can use back that email.

otherwise snail mail?
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hmm.. no.. my uncle helped me to passed my resume to one of the interviewer..

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