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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 15 2009, 08:07 PM) (Just want to be the first to post on the new versi .. you refering to pin kor pin kor V4 thread not reach 2500 post yet ar? )   |
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new thread welcome to it... lets discuss more here...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:13 PM) you refering to pin kor pin kor V4 thread not reach 2500 post yet ar? Har?? Anyway, why reach 2.5K must tutup kedai? |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 15 2009, 08:25 PM) Har?? err.. if not why got so many Version? just use one thread..Anyway, why reach 2.5K must tutup kedai? |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:28 PM) err.. if not why got so many Version? just use one thread.. yeah, i know it is the rules but why is it so, technically? |
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QUOTE Everything About Plasma & LCD TV Thread v5.00, How flat can you be? G*rls: "No thankzzz." Anyway, anyone of you are using Belkin SurgeMaster Gold Series? My previous TV died because of lighting strike.  https://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-02DSale27832418.htm |
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QUOTE(Xeon7222 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:34 PM) G*rls: "No thankzzz." is this the one with 8 plug points?? coz i m interested to buy it too Anyway, anyone of you are using Belkin SurgeMaster Gold Series? My previous TV died because of lighting strike. https://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-02DSale27832418.htm |
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what type of file can be read by bravia Sony s series?
lazy to connect through hdmi, so just put movie into pendrive try mp4, avi not detected |
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Samsung 50" Series 6 Plasma vs Panasonic 50S10K
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 16 2009, 12:36 PM) Samsung 50" Series 6 Plasma vs Panasonic 50S10K I am using Series 6 Plasma.. definitely for me this model has better PQ. Which one have better PQ? But it is still a debate on the preferences, hence we have separate thread talking on the individual models you mentioned. Each will definitely say they are better. Suggest you to take a look and compare for yourself, your eyes never lie. |
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Oct 16 2009, 01:46 PM) I am using Series 6 Plasma.. definitely for me this model has better PQ. Ya, I do agreed your eyes will never lie but the problem is your eyes never tell you what you see is the best result of those TVs or not. There is lot of factors affect the performance of the TVs. So, before testing, I believe you still need certain skills/knowledge to determine which brand or model is best fit you. But it is still a debate on the preferences, hence we have separate thread talking on the individual models you mentioned. Each will definitely say they are better. Suggest you to take a look and compare for yourself, your eyes never lie. This post has been edited by low98944: Oct 16 2009, 02:06 PM |
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the most important thing are durabality and workability for the lcd and plasma......then u can decide which one is best........
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 16 2009, 12:36 PM) Samsung 50" Series 6 Plasma vs Panasonic 50S10K Is the Pana 50S10K screen more reflective than Samsung? Which one have better PQ? |
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50s10k have anti-refletion
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Oct 16 2009, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 16 2009, 12:36 PM) Samsung 50" Series 6 Plasma vs Panasonic 50S10K Of coz B650 have better PQWhich one have better PQ? QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Oct 16 2009, 01:46 PM) I am using Series 6 Plasma.. definitely for me this model has better PQ. Yup, rite. Go to Pavilion...Harvey Norman. They have plasma placed side by side. Our eyes will tell the truth.But it is still a debate on the preferences, hence we have separate thread talking on the individual models you mentioned. Each will definitely say they are better. Suggest you to take a look and compare for yourself, your eyes never lie. QUOTE(kayroll @ Oct 16 2009, 02:03 PM) the most important thing are durabality and workability for the lcd and plasma......then u can decide which one is best........ Reliability is important. But ppl (like me ) are getting newer and bigger tv every year. It's poisonous. A bad habit. QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 16 2009, 05:52 PM) 50s10k have anti-refletion I don't think so. I got 2 S10 but the anti-reflection thingy ain't really effective.correct me if i am wrong |
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Oct 16 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 16 2009, 05:52 PM) 50s10k have anti-refletion I compare S10K with X10K, X10K is more reflective. While S10K compare to old model (PV series), PV series is much less reflection correct me if i am wrong  Maybe different technology  |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 16 2009, 06:31 PM) But ppl (like me ) are getting newer and bigger tv every year. |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 16 2009, 06:31 PM) Reliability is important. But ppl (like me ) are getting newer and bigger tv every year. It isn't fair why someone can afford multiple big ass screen while I still stick with my 21" CRT?  |
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Oct 16 2009, 06:50 PM) It isn't fair why someone can afford multiple big ass screen while I still stick with my 21" CRT? your 30inch 2560x1600 ultra HD display leh? |
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penny has 46 54 58 and 65 inch even chk amazon.com
but not in Suckaysia they dont have but 46 inch would be great at rm 4500 whats the current price of 50 inch s10 ?? http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-VIERA-TC-P...5710479&sr=1-11 http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_...&rnid=550060011 |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 16 2009, 06:58 PM) dun blaff.. That is monitor, not TV ma. your 30inch 2560x1600 ultra HD display leh?  |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 16 2009, 06:40 PM) Especially those BIG BIG taukeh (like you... ). And the elites up to the north, south and eastJust a way of tech evolving. Some ppl even change projector every year and then. It's pretty common. Of coz, different people would have different spending habits. Added on October 17, 2009, 9:56 amour Type R taukeh is getting V series this year end This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Oct 17 2009, 09:56 AM |
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Oct 17 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Oct 17 2009, 09:17 AM) That is monitor, not TV ma. you never said your 21" CRT was a TV or monitor wor.. |
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his 21" CRT maybe put inside jamban
 Then again, must be a BIG jamban to be able to take the 21" CRT Therefore in order to have BIG jamban, the house must be BIG also  |
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Oct 15 2009, 08:49 PM) is this the one with 8 plug points?? coz i m interested to buy it too Yea I am talking about the 8-socket one.  I wonder if the SurgeMaster itself needs to be powered on in order to make the surge protector thing work? Normally people off all the things when they are not using them right.  |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 17 2009, 09:55 AM) Taiko. There are many ppl doing this. Nothing great. Just facts. V series 65" coming or not?Especially those BIG BIG taukeh (like you... ). And the elites up to the north, south and eastJust a way of tech evolving. Some ppl even change projector every year and then. It's pretty common. Of coz, different people would have different spending habits. Added on October 17, 2009, 9:56 amour Type R taukeh is getting V series this year end |
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all sifus.. if i wanna use a 32 inch LCD TV for PC use..
shud i get the FULL HD or HD ready?? for best resolutions at pc? |
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Oct 19 2009, 05:44 PM) all sifus.. if i wanna use a 32 inch LCD TV for PC use.. PC use of course Full HD ler..but it also depends on your GC you are using...sometimes going full HD of a 800X600 intel intergrated system is also overkill, but take note, at least you dun have to upgrade the LCD next time you change to more capable GC.shud i get the FULL HD or HD ready?? for best resolutions at pc? |
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 19 2009, 09:46 PM) PC use of course Full HD ler..but it also depends on your GC you are using...sometimes going full HD of a 800X600 intel intergrated system is also overkill, but take note, at least you dun have to upgrade the LCD next time you change to more capable GC. tak cukup rez, in order to maintain a decent pixel pitch of a PC monitor while sitting 2-3ft away, a 30inch LCD should be 2560x1600 rez.. |
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 19 2009, 09:46 PM) PC use of course Full HD ler..but it also depends on your GC you are using...sometimes going full HD of a 800X600 intel intergrated system is also overkill, but take note, at least you dun have to upgrade the LCD next time you change to more capable GC. i m using GTX260 Nvidia.. is this GC ok for LCD TV? |
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Oct 20 2009, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Oct 19 2009, 11:10 PM) i m using GTX260 Nvidia.. is this GC ok for LCD TV? Does it have HDMI ports or only DVI ports?LCD TV inputs have its limitations when connected to the computer...so its best to check the LCD model and download the manual book. This post has been edited by azbro: Oct 20 2009, 10:56 AM |
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HDMI input is much better than VGA.....how about the HDMI vs DVI input?
Will the DVI-to-HMDI converter (come with GC) will be same as HDMI direct out from GC? ......... |
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QUOTE(azbro @ Oct 20 2009, 10:39 AM) Does it have HDMI ports or only DVI ports? yea its has a HDMI port and 2 DVI ports...LCD TV inputs have its limitations when connected to the computer...so its best to check the LCD model and download the manual book. |
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May I know the GTX260 is DVI-to-HDMI or direct output HDMI from GC?
If DVI-to-HDMI, can we get the digital sound output from HDMI? |
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 20 2009, 04:02 PM) If DVI-to-HDMI, can we get the digital sound output from HDMI? |
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QUOTE(ashburn98 @ Oct 20 2009, 10:59 PM) nope. no sound if dvi-hdmi. oh, then luckily i dont buy any GPU yet....then is there any direct HDMI output from GPU? then how we get the digital audio from our sound card? need to connect / add cable from soundcard to GPU? wondering is there any picture to show this.... |
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After long survey on LCD TV, and deciding whether to choose Sony or Sharp, finally my dad decided and bought a Sharp LC42A66M...
And it arrives yesterday, and today only I found out that when the worker are fixing the LCD TV, there are some fingerprint marks on the screen... Anyone can tell me how to clean it? I heard that the screen cannot be cleaned by a wet cloth... |
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Oct 21 2009, 10:27 PM
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Just buy 3M multipurpose cloth. One small piece is RM19.90 and basically can clean everything from LCD/plasma screen to CD/DVD/BD/camera lens/etc. Very useful.
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Any idea on what's the difference between Panasonic TH-L32C12K (I think its the latest model) & its brother, TH-L32C10K?
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QUOTE(arremie @ Oct 21 2009, 10:27 PM) Just buy 3M multipurpose cloth. One small piece is RM19.90 and basically can clean everything from LCD/plasma screen to CD/DVD/BD/camera lens/etc. Very useful. need so expensive meh? those lint-free ones will do also, right? go to England Optical get also can! |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 22 2009, 01:05 PM) need so expensive meh? those lint-free ones will do also, right? go to England Optical get also can! free right? comes with the glasses.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:09 PM) free right? comes with the glasses.. yeah, also if kotor dy, just take the EO casing there and ask for new one ... |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:09 PM) free right? comes with the glasses.. no need cloth la  take whisky pour on screen enough |
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kianwee... where's your troll spray...
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:15 PM) kianwee... where's your troll spray...  On a more serious note, you could just sue the workers and hope you get enough money to buy 3M cloth |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:15 PM) kianwee... where's your troll spray... i pinjam dy .... |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 22 2009, 01:20 PM) i pinjam dy .... My hair is not green  |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 22 2009, 01:20 PM) i pinjam dy .... wow got green hair wan.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:26 PM) wow got green hair wan.. But dunno if its naturally green or just dye one. But there's a sure fire way to find out |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:30 PM) But dunno if its naturally green or just dye one. But there's a sure fire way to find out fire away then, i want to know .. |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:30 PM) But dunno if its naturally green or just dye one. But there's a sure fire way to find out how? send to CSI LV crime lab for |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:38 PM) how? send to CSI LV crime lab for  |
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wow this is bordering spam!
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 22 2009, 01:50 PM) wow this is bordering spam! Congrats, you officially spam 3.5k post at Home Entertainment.  |
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Oct 22 2009, 01:56 PM) Congrats, you officially spam 3.5k post at Home Entertainment. yeah the race leader is ahead with over 5k posts.. |
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wah, how come got many spam since the first page...haha...99% are not related to the topic.... haha.....
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 22 2009, 03:01 PM) wah, how come got many spam since the first page...haha...99% are not related to the topic.... haha..... becoz of posts like this? ok ok lets end this, nanti DBKL come tutup kedai |
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They dare to tutup, I dare to buka again
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Oct 22 2009, 03:47 PM) They dare to tutup, I dare to buka again wooi, garangnya .... |
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wah not ending yet.... haha.....
Got any new model for plasma tv recently ke? |
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 22 2009, 04:11 PM) wah not ending yet.... haha..... next year got. 3-D ones, dun pray-pray.Got any new model for plasma tv recently ke? |
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Yeah...3D, but our source is not so much 3D movie/animation. Or all 2D can watch in 3D mode ke?
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why my Samsung LCD TV Series 5 so blur on Astro compared to other brands of LCD ar??
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QUOTE(kcar @ Oct 22 2009, 10:01 PM) why my Samsung LCD TV Series 5 so blur on Astro compared to other brands of LCD ar?? Never set up properly la  Or you bought a crap tibi |
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Need special setting then only can see "clear" astro ke?....how about plasma? still need setting then only can see the best PQ?
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I thought everyone knew that LCD marriage with ASTRO is not a good one...
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 23 2009, 11:27 AM) Need special setting then only can see "clear" astro ke?....how about plasma? still need setting then only can see the best PQ? no need. whatever setting also 'best' for astro. |
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oh...so far, plasma are better way if compare with LCD tv, how about LED TV? which one is much better black level and contrast?
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:08 PM) oh...so far, plasma are better way if compare with LCD tv, how about LED TV? which one is much better black level and contrast? But, but, LED TVs costs 2 arms and 2 legs more than today's plasma wor  |
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:08 PM) oh...so far, plasma are better way if compare with LCD tv, how about LED TV? which one is much better black level and contrast? Based on measured data, plasma's still have the upper hand compared to latest gen LED backlit displays. Its getting closer but still plasmas hold the edge for ANSI contrast and simultaneous contrast. With that the contrast ratios are still better on plasmas. |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:10 PM) But, but, LED TVs costs 2 arms and 2 legs more than today's plasma wor Volvos also cost people's limbs but got people still buy wor ..... |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 23 2009, 06:13 PM) Based on measured data, plasma's still have the upper hand compared to latest gen LED backlit displays. Its getting closer but still plasmas hold the edge for ANSI contrast and simultaneous contrast. With that the contrast ratios are still better on plasmas. latest gen LED backlight also got many types, RGB white or phosphor white type.. also need to see if got local dimming and how many zone.. at least 512-1024 zone would be ideal.. not simple 64zone type.. |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Oct 23 2009, 06:27 PM) Volvos also cost people's limbs but got people still buy wor ..... ouch |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:29 PM) latest gen LED backlight also got many types, RGB white or phosphor white type.. True. I believe that unless they can go to one to one pixel, it will be difficult to get the contrast ratios close to plasma. RGB vs white does not do too much in terms of contrast but improvement in colour accuracy. However, I think LCDs have come a very long way and I think they will close the gap within the next 2 years.also need to see if got local dimming and how many zone.. at least 512-1024 zone would be ideal.. not simple 64zone type.. |
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Oct 23 2009, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 23 2009, 06:46 PM) True. I believe that unless they can go to one to one pixel, it will be difficult to get the contrast ratios close to plasma. RGB vs white does not do too much in terms of contrast but improvement in colour accuracy. However, I think LCDs have come a very long way and I think they will close the gap within the next 2 years. Alas even when the gap is closed, pricing will not. I expect the pricing gap between plasma and LCD/LED would be bigger by that time |
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Oct 23 2009, 06:50 PM
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:48 PM) Alas even when the gap is closed, pricing will not. I expect the pricing gap between plasma and LCD/LED would be bigger by that time Only one question remains, will plasma last that long to find out? If Panasonic pulls the plug, its the end...I dread thinking of that day. |
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Oct 23 2009, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 23 2009, 06:50 PM) Only one question remains, will plasma last that long to find out? If Panasonic pulls the plug, its the end...I dread thinking of that day. True....its all back to the fundamentals of dollar and cents i.e. does it make economic sense for Panasonic to maintain the plasma lines. In any case, some times, business is not strictly about dollar and "sense". Panasonic may choose to maintain it for market presence purposes. Oh well....que sera sera, whatever will be, will be..... |
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Oct 23 2009, 07:51 PM
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Well, actually the LED TV is just using LED for each pixel to display or LED use as the backlight only? anyone can clarify for this one?
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Oct 23 2009, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 23 2009, 07:51 PM) Well, actually the LED TV is just using LED for each pixel to display or LED use as the backlight only? anyone can clarify for this one? As explained earlier by bro ar188, the current LED TVs are backlit only....white (sammy) or RGB (sony) |
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Oct 23 2009, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE(sam240 @ Oct 23 2009, 07:51 PM) Well, actually the LED TV is just using LED for each pixel to display or LED use as the backlight only? anyone can clarify for this one? the actual LED based panel is the one uses one R one G one B LED for one pixel (or more LED per pixel) .. they can be found on top of stadiums and buildings. that is LED TV/LED monitorbut some marketing fellas start calling LCD TVs as LED TVs cos they use LEDs as backlight function, not as a visual pixel element on the panel... so the consumer LED TV is not really LED TV.. |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:00 AM
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And it (gimmcik) works pretty well, right?
If really pure LED tv, I don't think the price tag is as 'cheap' as now |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:06 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 24 2009, 12:00 AM) And it (gimmcik) works pretty well, right? sure la.. RGB LEDs is already > RM1 per pixel point.. If really pure LED tv, I don't think the price tag is as 'cheap' as now if HDTV rez with 2 mil pixels (1920x1080) ... = million dollar TV.. |
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Oct 24 2009, 12:08 AM
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Boss, but some ppl still trying to argue that it is indeed LED TV. So, I just leave it to them. No point arguing with them since they are buying it anyway. Why argue with 'money'? LOL....
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Oct 24 2009, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 24 2009, 12:08 AM) Boss, but some ppl still trying to argue that it is indeed LED TV. So, I just leave it to them. No point arguing with them since they are buying it anyway. Why argue with 'money'? LOL.... what to do... SH mah.. cos liddat all our mobile phone's are all LED screen also since they use LED backlight over LCD panel.. all new LEd backlight PC monitor and laptop also should called LED display.. macam macam ada... |
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Oct 25 2009, 08:27 PM
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Should I get Sharp Aquos 46a77 or Toshiba Regza 46x3500e for new house?
I am not buying 50s10 because of reflection. My living room downlight very bright. |
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Oct 25 2009, 09:51 PM
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 25 2009, 08:27 PM) Should I get Sharp Aquos 46a77 or Toshiba Regza 46x3500e for new house? i think sharp will be better as sharp's panel is made in japan.. and its quality is good...I am not buying 50s10 because of reflection. My living room downlight very bright. toshiba i heard that their panel is made in indonesia? not so sure... |
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Oct 25 2009, 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 25 2009, 08:27 PM) Should I get Sharp Aquos 46a77 or Toshiba Regza 46x3500e for new house? Get the Toshiba and regret later...lousy quality I am not buying 50s10 because of reflection. My living room downlight very bright. |
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Oct 25 2009, 10:43 PM
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how much is samsung 32" led tv UA32B6000 ? is it worth buying?
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Oct 25 2009, 10:49 PM
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My local electrical shop quote me Sharp Aquos 46A77 for RM5700
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Oct 25 2009, 11:48 PM
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hi...i am looking for 50" plasmas. any to intro in order to narrow down my search? and price?
i was gonna get LCDs but the prices are kinda scary. so i resort to plasma instead. hehe...with wide range of products out there, searching from scratch would be PITA. thanks for the helps! |
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Oct 26 2009, 09:17 AM
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QUOTE(robin92 @ Oct 25 2009, 10:43 PM) how much is samsung 32" led tv UA32B6000 ? is it worth buying? Wah, 32" got LED dee ah?Added on October 26, 2009, 9:19 am QUOTE(SpikeTwo @ Oct 25 2009, 11:48 PM) hi...i am looking for 50" plasmas. any to intro in order to narrow down my search? and price? You may narrow down to 2 obvious choices. Either the Sammy B550/650 or Panny S10, unless you have more to spend, then the Pioneer KURO if it is still available. You can check out both Sammy B650 and Panny S10's respective threads...i was gonna get LCDs but the prices are kinda scary. so i resort to plasma instead. hehe...with wide range of products out there, searching from scratch would be PITA. thanks for the helps! This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Oct 26 2009, 09:19 AM |
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Oct 26 2009, 09:32 AM
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Inch for inch, plasma pricing will be lower compared to LCD/LED
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Oct 26 2009, 09:46 AM
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Sammy B550/650 or Panny S10... how much for those ah?
thanks for the recommendation. now reading reviews. This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Oct 26 2009, 09:49 AM |
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Oct 26 2009, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 25 2009, 08:27 PM) Should I get Sharp Aquos 46a77 or Toshiba Regza 46x3500e for new house? Go for Sharp I am not buying 50s10 because of reflection. My living room downlight very bright. |
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 23 2009, 06:58 PM) True....its all back to the fundamentals of dollar and cents i.e. does it make economic sense for Panasonic to maintain the plasma lines. In any case, some times, business is not strictly about dollar and "sense". Panasonic may choose to maintain it for market presence purposes. Oh well....que sera sera, whatever will be, will be..... panny's Plasma TVs are still selling quite well right? dun see why they should pull the plugs...if anyone shud, it will be sammy...not saying sammy's plasma tv is bad, just i think the market share of plasma tv is lead by panny...in contrast, not too sure, but i think panny's LCD line aint that popular...so all the more reason for them to maintain Plasma tv production....and, i did remember reading sumwhere, Pioneer will source plasma panels from panny in future am i right? does it mean pioneer will still come out with Kuro's? or its dead completely? Kuro is still the Plasma TV to beat...if its not for the outrageous price tag on a FHD Kuro.... QUOTE(SIWIS @ Oct 25 2009, 08:27 PM) Should I get Sharp Aquos 46a77 or Toshiba Regza 46x3500e for new house? errrr...downlight can be switched off right? why not install light dimmer? watch movie with full lights dun give the kick la...must be dark & dimmed...then only got cinema feel marrr...I am not buying 50s10 because of reflection. My living room downlight very bright. |
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Oct 26 2009, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(daryl.k @ Oct 26 2009, 01:08 PM) panny's Plasma TVs are still selling quite well right? dun see why they should pull the plugs...if anyone shud, it will be sammy...not saying sammy's plasma tv is bad, just i think the market share of plasma tv is lead by panny...in contrast, not too sure, but i think panny's LCD line aint that popular...so all the more reason for them to maintain Plasma tv production.... Pioneer has pulled out of the market.and, i did remember reading sumwhere, Pioneer will source plasma panels from panny in future am i right? does it mean pioneer will still come out with Kuro's? or its dead completely? Kuro is still the Plasma TV to beat...if its not for the outrageous price tag on a FHD Kuro.... errrr...downlight can be switched off right? why not install light dimmer? watch movie with full lights dun give the kick la...must be dark & dimmed...then only got cinema feel marrr... |
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Oct 26 2009, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Oct 26 2009, 01:16 PM) Pioneer has pulled out of the market. If only you have a dollar everytime you answer this |
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Oct 26 2009, 08:23 PM
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sorry it's lcd..
btw. my current budget si below 2k. or 1.6 less. any recommendation? style, performance, etc |
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Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM
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Top 4 'Best Reviewed' Plasma TV in US by consumer research:
1) Samsung PN58B650 2) Panasonic TC-P50V10 3) Panasonic TC-P42G10 4) Panasonic TC-P50X10 http://www.consumersearch.com/plasma-tv |
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Oct 27 2009, 10:33 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 27 2009, 10:23 PM) Top 4 'Best Reviewed' Plasma TV in US by consumer research: doesn't seem to be malaysian market stuff..1) Samsung PN58B650 2) Panasonic TC-P50V10 3) Panasonic TC-P42G10 4) Panasonic TC-P50X10 http://www.consumersearch.com/plasma-tv |
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Oct 27 2009, 11:17 PM
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US models mah
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Oct 27 2009, 11:25 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Oct 27 2009, 11:17 PM) US models mah so what's the relevance of this list in malaysia market?? can buy ar ? at cheap US prices also? |
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Oct 28 2009, 04:02 AM
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Need some advices with regards to some FHD LCDs.
1. Samsung LA40B550 2. Sony KLV-40S550 3. Sharp LC-37A66M 4. LG 42LH35 5. Panasonic L37X15K Size : 37-42" Resolution : Full HD Price : Slightly above RM3,000 Purpose will be for PS3 games and link to PC for movies ONLY. Astro is crap on any TV. At the moment, I am very inclined towards Sharp's reputable Aquos branding but terribly impressed with Samsung's details and colors. Are Samsung LCD models very "fragile" and breaks down easily compared to other brands ? |
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Oct 28 2009, 08:31 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Oct 27 2009, 11:25 PM) so what's the relevance of this list in malaysia market?? can buy ar ? at cheap US prices also? Take reviews from US site. 'adjust' them for price/ performance ratio on personal scale. Just like SVS products. The reviews would shed some light on their relative performance. No direct comparison due to price difference. Give and taken. Personal judgement would come into play when making buying decision since reviews in Malaysia market are pretty limited. Taukeh, you agree with me or not? Peasant like me does this kind of comparison most of the time. |
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Oct 28 2009, 08:52 AM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Oct 28 2009, 08:31 AM) Take reviews from US site. 'adjust' them for price/ performance ratio on personal scale. Just like SVS products. the problem is there is different in feature for these US and local model. The reviews would shed some light on their relative performance. No direct comparison due to price difference. Give and taken. Personal judgement would come into play when making buying decision since reviews in Malaysia market are pretty limited. Taukeh, you agree with me or not? Peasant like me does this kind of comparison most of the time. |
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Oct 28 2009, 09:00 AM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Oct 28 2009, 08:52 AM) the problem is there is different in feature for these US and local model. I see this is minimal. Better than nothing. Say on Samsung B650 and V10, they are the substantially identical. S10 would have 'significant' difference. But in fact, S10 ain't great at all, but it wins hands down on price. |
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Oct 28 2009, 08:19 PM
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Oct 28 2009, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(CV6149 @ Oct 28 2009, 08:19 PM) need help guys!!!.......... I have been told plasma will suffer burn-in effect if turn ON too long, but not LCD.I was offered to buy a 'demo' unit 32" Toshiba 32av550e. Old model but imho still ok......price is rm900(i put in the price is to help making the decision) my question is..... Ok or not to buy? is there any lcd degradation if lcd on all the time like the demo unit....... the demo only got remote,warranty card..imo still got warranty eventhough its a demo unit... |
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Oct 28 2009, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(klang-valley @ Oct 28 2009, 09:12 PM) I have been told plasma will suffer burn-in effect if turn ON too long, but not LCD. Turn on too long will not cause burn in. Chances of burn in increase with viewing of bright static images for long periods of time. |
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Oct 28 2009, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE(klang-valley @ Oct 28 2009, 09:12 PM) I have been told plasma will suffer burn-in effect if turn ON too long, but not LCD. you was told wrong.. |
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Oct 28 2009, 11:33 PM
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for my case, i take it that i shud buy it then?
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Oct 29 2009, 08:10 AM
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QUOTE(klang-valley @ Oct 28 2009, 09:12 PM) I have been told plasma will suffer burn-in effect if turn ON too long, but not LCD. Whoever tell you this, don't seek his advice on issue related to TV again! |
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Oct 29 2009, 08:29 AM
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guys, got a question here.
what about comparison of Pana 42S10 with Sammy 42B450? i was pretty much going for 42S10. But there had been alot of discussion about sammy panels producing better image than panny. the only thing that is holding me back is sammy plasma for 42" is only HD ready and more prone to IR.. I will be putting this in my bedroom and there won't be any astro or normal broadcast (unless i use indoor antenna). mostly will be playing DVDs, BluRay and probably stream from my PC. which should i choose? |
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Oct 29 2009, 08:55 AM
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QUOTE(daron @ Oct 29 2009, 08:29 AM) guys, got a question here. Browhat about comparison of Pana 42S10 with Sammy 42B450? i was pretty much going for 42S10. But there had been alot of discussion about sammy panels producing better image than panny. the only thing that is holding me back is sammy plasma for 42" is only HD ready and more prone to IR.. I will be putting this in my bedroom and there won't be any astro or normal broadcast (unless i use indoor antenna). mostly will be playing DVDs, BluRay and probably stream from my PC. which should i choose? Do consider the fact that there will be differences between full HD and HD ready panels according to your intended usage. Full HD has 1920 x 1080 while the latter is 1024 x 768. So, for TV and playing DVDs, no problem for HD Ready. Streaming from PC would depend very much on the type of file i.e. standard definition (480p), 720p or 1080p files. Major setback will be blu-ray for HD Ready as the quality will not be as good compared to Full HD TV |
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Oct 30 2009, 09:19 AM
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Now I'm officially the proud owner of Pana P42X10
 IMO, i got the best bargain in town last night, from Sunway Pyramid JCard day promo. Ori price with camera, 2 x 1g SD card, HDMI cable = RM3299 Jusco member discount minus RM400 = RM2899 JCard day voucher redeem, RM290 = RM2609  Before this the cheapest I can find is RM2350 with HDMI cable, but no delivery, and delivery is RM100 Others are selling at RM2499 with delivery and HDMI cable. Maybe those who wants to grab a bargain Pana P42X10 can wait until the next Jcard day |
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Oct 30 2009, 01:16 PM
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QUOTE(richard912 @ Oct 29 2009, 08:55 AM) Bro well, that's the problem..Do consider the fact that there will be differences between full HD and HD ready panels according to your intended usage. Full HD has 1920 x 1080 while the latter is 1024 x 768. So, for TV and playing DVDs, no problem for HD Ready. Streaming from PC would depend very much on the type of file i.e. standard definition (480p), 720p or 1080p files. Major setback will be blu-ray for HD Ready as the quality will not be as good compared to Full HD TV either go for sammy HD ready panel with better colours or pana full HD but less impressive display from what i have seen and alot have been saying so too.. so it's a dilemma for me. |
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Oct 30 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(daron @ Oct 30 2009, 01:16 PM) well, that's the problem.. I am in the same boat...wanting a plasma but a "value for money" one either go for sammy HD ready panel with better colours or pana full HD but less impressive display from what i have seen and alot have been saying so too.. so it's a dilemma for me. What do you guys think of a group buy for Viera TH-50V11 from SG? Nice specs and good review, if not one of the best in the market next to KURO Issue is local warranty in case of any prob Still will cost some RM8-9K |
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Nov 3 2009, 12:16 AM
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hi. whats the clicking sound whenever i power on & off my lcd tv? sounds like crt monitor degaussing click?
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Nov 6 2009, 09:05 AM
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HDguru have a interesting article on how 240hz mode degrade image quality
http://hdguru.com/120240-hz-lcd-problems-exposed/569/ |
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Nov 6 2009, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 6 2009, 09:05 AM) HDguru have a interesting article on how 240hz mode degrade image quality Very informative article http://hdguru.com/120240-hz-lcd-problems-exposed/569/ |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Nov 6 2009, 09:05 AM) HDguru have a interesting article on how 240hz mode degrade image quality oppo owners should have this test disc.. anfield!.. http://hdguru.com/120240-hz-lcd-problems-exposed/569/ but the moving resolution wedge could also be found in other test disc.. |
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Nov 6 2009, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 6 2009, 10:14 AM) oppo owners should have this test disc.. anfield!.. Yup, its a pretty good test disc. but the moving resolution wedge could also be found in other test disc.. There is especially one test there for chroma multiburst that was surprising. Apparently, there are a lot of displays/BD players that fail this test. |
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Nov 6 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 6 2009, 10:59 AM) Yup, its a pretty good test disc. is that related to chroma upsampling bug thing?There is especially one test there for chroma multiburst that was surprising. Apparently, there are a lot of displays/BD players that fail this test. |
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Nov 6 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 6 2009, 11:27 AM) is that related to chroma upsampling bug thing? They have another pattern for that. This one tests the bandwidth of the chroma channels. I have seen quite a few players fail this, also displays. |
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Nov 6 2009, 04:42 PM
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I'm looking for a birthday present for my dad.
Need some advices with regards to some plasma... been researching but the terms are just too confusing. Size : 42 - 50" Resolution : Full HD / HD Ready Distance from TV: 15 feet Price : 4.5k Purpose will be for Astro 70%, 10% Karaoke, 10% Wii and 10% link to PC to watch online movies or surf net ONLY. Basically only looking for Panny models. Would appreciate if someone could tell me where to buy in Ipoh. Any suggestions? |
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Nov 6 2009, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(jodi @ Nov 6 2009, 04:42 PM) I'm looking for a birthday present for my dad. 50PX10 is in ur price range. Shd be good for your needs. I do not know where in Ipoh u can get it. PM commontan as they might deliver. from Penang/KL.Need some advices with regards to some plasma... been researching but the terms are just too confusing. Size : 42 - 50" Resolution : Full HD / HD Ready Distance from TV: 15 feet Price : 4.5k Purpose will be for Astro 70%, 10% Karaoke, 10% Wii and 10% link to PC to watch online movies or surf net ONLY. Basically only looking for Panny models. Would appreciate if someone could tell me where to buy in Ipoh. Any suggestions? |
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Nov 6 2009, 05:11 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 6 2009, 04:49 PM) 50PX10 is in ur price range. Shd be good for your needs. I do not know where in Ipoh u can get it. PM commontan as they might deliver. from Penang/KL. This is for LG model? |
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Nov 6 2009, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(jodi @ Nov 6 2009, 05:11 PM) This is for LG model? Sorry, Panasonic. |
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Nov 6 2009, 05:15 PM
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What is the exact model? I search the net for 50PX10, it returns LG model.
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Nov 6 2009, 05:20 PM
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Nov 6 2009, 10:53 PM
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Thanks for th info.... I went to SenQ and they are selling 50" for RM5699.... huh!!!! expensive and over budget....
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Nov 7 2009, 09:24 AM
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Now the price for TH-L37X15K and 42X10K is about the same. Which means 37' LCD is near to the 42' Plasma price.
Of course in term of money value, plasma will be great, but since same price only can get 37' LCD with 100 Hz, does it mean LCD is better? |
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Nov 7 2009, 09:30 AM
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how much is this L37X15K ?
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Nov 7 2009, 10:01 AM
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QUOTE(jodi @ Nov 6 2009, 10:53 PM) Thanks for th info.... I went to SenQ and they are selling 50" for RM5699.... huh!!!! expensive and over budget.... As I said, the price is about RM4500 only. PM commontan and see if they can deliver to Ipoh. |
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Nov 7 2009, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Nov 7 2009, 09:24 AM) Now the price for TH-L37X15K and 42X10K is about the same. Which means 37' LCD is near to the 42' Plasma price. No. It all depends on panel yields at the factory. At larger sizes plasmas are cheaper to manufacture than LCDs. To make small size plasmas is not cheap, hence the smallest size plasma was 42in. Panasonic and LG used to make plasmas at 37 and 32 in but it was not cost effective.Of course in term of money value, plasma will be great, but since same price only can get 37' LCD with 100 Hz, does it mean LCD is better? 32 - 37in LCD panels are the sweet spot in the manufacturing plants, thats why the prices are so low. The panel maufacturers are also improving the yields at 40in > however its still not too cheap yet. It has nothing to do with being better, its all about cost to manufacture. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 7 2009, 09:30 AM) how much is this L37X15K ? Retail about RM2.9k, forumer here sell about 2.5k. Anyhow still close to 42X10K. Still considering.....  |
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Nov 7 2009, 11:22 AM
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isnt the x10 cheaper than 2.5k? But i guess both can be considered. But 37in i think too small unless sitting very close up to tv.
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Nov 7 2009, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(skippro @ Nov 3 2009, 12:16 AM) hi. whats the clicking sound whenever i power on & off my lcd tv? sounds like crt monitor degaussing click? The clicking sound is the relay power on when you press the on/off switch. |
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QUOTE(kevinc66 @ Nov 7 2009, 11:38 AM) The clicking sound is the relay power on when you press the on/off switch. towkay, while u r at this, wanna ask why Pana S10 standby light is 'on' for sometime even the main switch is turned off? mebbe stupid question but i am comparing with my older CRTs and LCDs, which doesnt do this. |
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Nov 7 2009, 12:42 PM) towkay, while u r at this, wanna ask why Pana S10 standby light is 'on' for sometime even the main switch is turned off? mebbe stupid question but i am comparing with my older CRTs and LCDs, which doesnt do this. There are large capacitors in there, it takes time to discharge. Part of the power supply circuit I think. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 7 2009, 04:34 PM) There are large capacitors in there, it takes time to discharge. Part of the power supply circuit I think. but how come not for CRTs or LCDs, pro? |
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Nov 8 2009, 12:21 AM
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Are Samsung TVs reliable these days ?
I have a Samsung where the screen got burnt marks slightly before a year and got it replaced. And now before its second is up, the TV went dead again. Or am I just unlucky ? |
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Nov 8 2009, 01:03 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Nov 7 2009, 04:37 PM) but how come not for CRTs or LCDs, pro? Circuit design wise. Nothing major to worry about. Yes anfieldude is right. The main filter capacitor need sometime to fully discharges. |
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Hi, just went to sen Q n saw the sammy 5 series 40 in lcd tv with full hd n selling at RM2640, but for citibank credit card holder only, question, is it cheap n is it worth buying, by the way its only 50 hz. Can any sifu give some comment on this. tq
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Nov 8 2009, 09:26 PM) Hi, just went to sen Q n saw the sammy 5 series 40 in lcd tv with full hd n selling at RM2640, but for citibank credit card holder only, question, is it cheap n is it worth buying, by the way its only 50 hz. Can any sifu give some comment on this. tq Hi.Was that model which you saw the Samsung LE40B550 40" Full HD 1080p HDTV ? |
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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Nov 8 2009, 10:49 PM) Hi. i dun think its LE man.. as LED TVs are so expensive...Was that model which you saw the Samsung LE40B550 40" Full HD 1080p HDTV ? i think it shud be the LA40B530 rite? but as i heard from most users... most of them have bad reviews on samsung LCDs... unless is series 6 and above... This post has been edited by rhys86: Nov 8 2009, 11:28 PM |
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Hi all guru/sifu, I going to buy a LCD TV for my house.
Can i have some recommendation from you? Budget: RM3k Distance: 8 feet away from TV Usage: Astro, Xbox 360 & DVD action movies Thx in advance =) This post has been edited by lui: Nov 9 2009, 05:50 PM |
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Nov 9 2009, 07:32 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Nov 9 2009, 05:45 PM) Hi all guru/sifu, I going to buy a LCD TV for my house. Panny 42S10k? plasma shud be ok for that budget =)Can i have some recommendation from you? Budget: RM3k Distance: 8 feet away from TV Usage: Astro, Xbox 360 & DVD action movies Thx in advance =) |
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Nov 10 2009, 06:28 AM
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QUOTE(IntegraTypeR @ Nov 8 2009, 10:49 PM) Hi. Bro, its LA40B530 modelWas that model which you saw the Samsung LE40B550 40" Full HD 1080p HDTV ? |
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Nov 10 2009, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 9 2009, 07:32 PM) Panny 42S10k? plasma shud be ok for that budget =) You got the information where to get the 42S10k with less than RM3000? |
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Nov 10 2009, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Nov 10 2009, 04:28 PM) You got the information where to get the 42S10k with less than RM3000? u can ask kevin from jintex.. http://jintexelectronics.com/his prices are good and reasonable i visit his shop once.. he willing to explain.. nice seller =) |
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Nov 10 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 8 2009, 11:27 PM) i dun think its LE man.. as LED TVs are so expensive... i was wondering... 6 series and above have better reliabilities? Any particular reason?? i think it shud be the LA40B530 rite? but as i heard from most users... most of them have bad reviews on samsung LCDs... unless is series 6 and above... 5 series and below made in China ah? |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(jodi @ Nov 10 2009, 06:10 PM) ???  !!! |
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Nov 11 2009, 01:43 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 10 2009, 07:23 PM) i was wondering... 6 series and above have better reliabilities? Any particular reason?? i heard that the higher end models of samsung has better panel qualities and also picture quality5 series and below made in China ah? i heard that some samsung series 5 tv has bad panel quality.. doesnt last tat long... but i dunno about it personally.. as i have been asking around and thats what i heard.. dunno how true is it till now i still thinking on what brand to trust =) This post has been edited by rhys86: Nov 11 2009, 01:44 AM |
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Nov 11 2009, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 10 2009, 05:56 PM) u can ask kevin from jintex.. http://jintexelectronics.com/ his prices are good and reasonable i visit his shop once.. he willing to explain.. nice seller =) QUOTE(jodi @ Nov 10 2009, 06:10 PM) Thx for the fantastic info. Must visit this shop before the Home and Living Fair this weekend =)By the way, does the shop sell extra Warranty Pack? |
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Nov 11 2009, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 11 2009, 01:43 AM) i heard that the higher end models of samsung has better panel qualities and also picture quality I heard from a fren too, but he got it from another fren.. etc etc etc....i heard that some samsung series 5 tv has bad panel quality.. doesnt last tat long... but i dunno about it personally.. as i have been asking around and thats what i heard.. dunno how true is it till now i still thinking on what brand to trust =) I would understand on the PQ as it makes sense a series higher would excel better than the series lower. On quality/reliability wise, I thought they should come from the same factory, unless the parts and panels they use for 5 series and below are much much cheaper parts... I was considering the 5 series for my parents, but now may change to 6 series if this is true. Now it's gonna cost me more.. |
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Nov 11 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 11 2009, 10:47 AM) I heard from a fren too, but he got it from another fren.. etc etc etc.... i also not tat sure bout this... i was interested in the series 5 too... but after hear reviews i also not sure to take or not...I would understand on the PQ as it makes sense a series higher would excel better than the series lower. On quality/reliability wise, I thought they should come from the same factory, unless the parts and panels they use for 5 series and below are much much cheaper parts... I was considering the 5 series for my parents, but now may change to 6 series if this is true. Now it's gonna cost me more.. but that is the cheapest 40inch FULL HD LCD that u can find i think... LA40B530 how much is ur budget.. and what u planning to use it for.. if astro, watching tv and dvd/bluray maybe u can consider plasma rather than lcd any sifus out there have any comment on Panasonic's LCD Tv based on PQ? This post has been edited by rhys86: Nov 11 2009, 11:16 AM |
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Nov 11 2009, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(lui @ Nov 10 2009, 04:28 PM) You got the information where to get the 42S10k with less than RM3000? Heard someone is selling at RM 2800.00. Dun know which sellers. |
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Nov 11 2009, 11:46 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 11 2009, 10:58 AM) i also not tat sure bout this... i was interested in the series 5 too... but after hear reviews i also not sure to take or not... I am buying it for my parents, hence plasma would not be a good idea. You know old folks.. sometimes phone calls come in, they pause their movies for a long time.. even after repeatedly educated... Chances of burn-in may likely happen with them.. but that is the cheapest 40inch FULL HD LCD that u can find i think... LA40B530 how much is ur budget.. and what u planning to use it for.. if astro, watching tv and dvd/bluray maybe u can consider plasma rather than lcd any sifus out there have any comment on Panasonic's LCD Tv based on PQ? They will use it for astro and DVD.So I would rather get a LCD for them. A peace of mind. I have the following in mind now, Sammy B530 40" Sammy B610 40" Sharp A66 42" Toshiba... not too sure bout this. They would not mind bout PQ that much.. so my choices are wider and will depend on the cheapest (but reliable) I can find then. This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Nov 11 2009, 07:28 PM |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:16 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 11 2009, 11:46 AM) I am buying it for my parents, hence plasma would not be a good idea. You know old folks.. sometimes phone calls come in, they pause their movies for a long time.. even after repeatedly educated... Chances of burn-in may likely happen with them.. So,how's yr LFE effect ? Better than previous setting ? They will use it for astro and DVD.So I would rather get a LCD for them. A piece of mind. I have the following in mind now, Sammy B530 40" Sammy B610 40" Sharp A66 42" Toshiba... not too sure bout this. They would not mind bout PQ that much.. so my choices are wider and will depend on the cheapest (but reliable) I can find then. |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 11 2009, 11:46 AM) I am buying it for my parents, hence plasma would not be a good idea. You know old folks.. sometimes phone calls come in, they pause their movies for a long time.. even after repeatedly educated... Chances of burn-in may likely happen with them.. icic... Sharp A66 42" is more than RM3k man.. They will use it for astro and DVD.So I would rather get a LCD for them. A piece of mind. I have the following in mind now, Sammy B530 40" Sammy B610 40" Sharp A66 42" Toshiba... not too sure bout this. They would not mind bout PQ that much.. so my choices are wider and will depend on the cheapest (but reliable) I can find then. hmm i think panasonic LCD also not bad la from what i see at roadshows =) |
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Nov 11 2009, 05:12 PM
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To all sifu,
As i know the Plasma HD resolution is 1024 x 768, and the LCD HD resolution is 1366 x 768. Base on this resolution, can i say that the Plasma HD has a poorer image quality than the LCD HD? All the while, i was planning to get a LCD HD. Because i dont think a Full HD is my requirement yet. And due to Bro rhys86 recommended the Panny Plasma, therefore my heart has goes to the HD-Ready Plasma 42X10K. Before i walk in to the shop, can someone help to explain the HD-Ready resolution for Plasma TV? thx to all sifu!! |
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Nov 11 2009, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(lui @ Nov 11 2009, 05:12 PM) To all sifu, Plasma is better for astro viewing... LCD for gaming better la...As i know the Plasma HD resolution is 1024 x 768, and the LCD HD resolution is 1366 x 768. Base on this resolution, can i say that the Plasma HD has a poorer image quality than the LCD HD? All the while, i was planning to get a LCD HD. Because i dont think a Full HD is my requirement yet. And due to Bro rhys86 recommended the Panny Plasma, therefore my heart has goes to the HD-Ready Plasma 42X10K. Before i walk in to the shop, can someone help to explain the HD-Ready resolution for Plasma TV? thx to all sifu!! its all depends on what u plan to use ur plasma/lcd for... |
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Nov 11 2009, 07:30 PM
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Nov 11 2009, 12:16 PM) So,how's yr LFE effect ? Better than previous setting ? better, thanks...Added on November 11, 2009, 7:33 pm QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 11 2009, 12:17 PM) icic... Sharp A66 42" is more than RM3k man.. I actually notice the Sammy LCD 5 series 40" & Plasma 4 series 42" is less than RM2.8K.... VELI TEMPTING LOR...so cheap. Spoilt also no heart ache....hehehmm i think panasonic LCD also not bad la from what i see at roadshows =) This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Nov 11 2009, 07:33 PM |
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Nov 11 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 11 2009, 07:30 PM) better, thanks... icic... maybe u can seek more ppl who use sammy LCD or plasma for some advice lor =)Added on November 11, 2009, 7:33 pm I actually notice the Sammy LCD 5 series 40" & Plasma 4 series 42" is less than RM2.8K.... VELI TEMPTING LOR...so cheap. Spoilt also no heart ache....hehe |
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Hi to all guru/sifu, I intend to buy a LCD TV in the near future
Looking for some recommendation Budget: RM3 - 3.5k Usage: Astro, movies & gaming I read in this thread that you guys seem to prefer plasma than LCD, any particular reason? I also understand that LCD is good for gaming while plasma is for astro viewing from the few posts above, I was hoping to know which is good enough for both function Thanks in advance =) Edit: forgot to mention, I am looking for 38" - 42" This post has been edited by soul_fly9900: Nov 12 2009, 01:03 AM |
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Nov 12 2009, 10:05 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 11 2009, 06:57 PM) Plasma is better for astro viewing... LCD for gaming better la... its all depends on what u plan to use ur plasma/lcd for... QUOTE(soul_fly9900 @ Nov 11 2009, 10:43 PM) Hi to all guru/sifu, I intend to buy a LCD TV in the near future Sigh!!!Looking for some recommendation Budget: RM3 - 3.5k Usage: Astro, movies & gaming I read in this thread that you guys seem to prefer plasma than LCD, any particular reason? I also understand that LCD is good for gaming while plasma is for astro viewing from the few posts above, I was hoping to know which is good enough for both function Thanks in advance =) Edit: forgot to mention, I am looking for 38" - 42" Then the problem comes... Just like Soul_fly9900 case, both Astro and gaming are what i use the most. Astro is important to my wife, while XBOX 360 gaming is important to me... PLEASE HELP... |
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Nov 12 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(rhys86 @ Nov 11 2009, 10:18 PM) icic... maybe u can seek more ppl who use sammy LCD or plasma for some advice lor =) Actually, I am already a Sammy user for both LCD & Plasma.. few mths old dee... so far so good.. |
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Nov 12 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(lui @ Nov 12 2009, 10:05 AM) Sigh!!! plasma also can gaming la... also quite good la... =)Then the problem comes... Just like Soul_fly9900 case, both Astro and gaming are what i use the most. Astro is important to my wife, while XBOX 360 gaming is important to me... PLEASE HELP... |
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Nov 12 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(kevinc66 @ Nov 11 2009, 11:29 AM) Heard someone is selling at RM 2800.00. Dun know which sellers. You can check out SenQ but not all location got offer. Anyway you need to remind them is "CASH TERM" so that can give you further discount. I think offer end this 15NOV (nevertheless there will be another offer again during CHRISTMAS season so u might want to wait to check if there is anymore price drop, never heard of electronic stuff would go up in price) Sometime the price reduction is mainly due to production line switch from MADE IN JAPAN to maybe MADE IN MAL/SIN/THAI, so cheaper labor charge, cheaper price.PANA 42X10 = RM2699 (3 YR warranty, should be enough, cause by then you probably can buy LED/LCD TV for the same price) SAM 40B530 = RM2799 (2 YR warranty) If afraid got spoil easily, u can ask for 5 Years warranty. |
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A couple of weeks ago, got a Panasonic 42" LCD TH-L42S10K at RM3250. Works very well watching Singapore channels. This is in Johor and many still do not need Asstro, so I can't review Asstro quality. Has a WDTV connected via HDMI for watching MKV movies.
Was contemplating the Plasma version but finally got the LCD because of three main reasons: - uses less energy (save the earth la... also my mom is old so it will be difficult to convince her to watch a 350W tv) - minimal reflection (I found the Plasma screen too reflective) - not much quality difference between LCD and Plasma as far as my eyes could discern Biggest drawback - tried plugging a PC via the tv's VGA. The highest resolution you can use is 1360x768. You can't go 1080 and this is documented in the manual. The PC can do 1080 because it is currently connected to a 24" monitor. To get 1080, I've got to upgrade my graphics card to one that has HDMI. This is a disappointment... if my 24" monitor could do 1080, why not this 42" tv? Weird decision from Panasonic. This post has been edited by Eugenet: Nov 12 2009, 04:27 PM |
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Nov 13 2009, 12:56 PM
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u can try using dvi to hdmi cable/converter
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Guys im planning to buy 40" LCD TV for gaming with PS3 and Xbox360 , the model that i want Samsung LA40B550 ( FULL-HD )..Anybody here using this LCD TV? How was it ? Good?
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QUOTE(Eugenet @ Nov 12 2009, 04:24 PM) Biggest drawback - tried plugging a PC via the tv's VGA. The highest resolution you can use is 1360x768. You can't go 1080 and this is documented in the manual. The PC can do 1080 because it is currently connected to a 24" monitor. To get 1080, I've got to upgrade my graphics card to one that has HDMI. This is a disappointment... if my 24" monitor could do 1080, why not this 42" tv? Weird decision from Panasonic. |
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guys.. my uncle bought a wide screen tv, i think around 42".. why the ppl inside the tv bcome short and fat? is that normal? got any setting? they dont have astro..
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u mean there's actually ppl inside the tv??
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Nov 14 2009, 11:23 AM
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Nov 14 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 11:17 AM) u mean there's actually ppl inside the tv?? adoi.. the actor and actress lor.. ish ish.. its not like in "the ring" movie ok.. |
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QUOTE(memyself @ Nov 14 2009, 11:26 AM) adoi.. the actor and actress lor.. ish ish.. its not like in "the ring" movie ok.. Here goes, standard 4:3 ratio pictures are stretched sideways to fit the full screen of 16:9 ratio tvs (like typical LCDs & Plasmas today). Because of this sideway stretch, the 'ppl' will tend to look shorter / fatter So u can do 2 things, one is set the tv display back to 4:3 ratio.. this will put things back in perspective but u'll see black bars on each side of the tv Two, u could play 16:9 ratio movies and it'll be perfect btw, this is my cutie  |
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 11:46 AM) btw, this is my cutie Very cute , how much you bought the cutie? |
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Nov 14 2009, 12:14 PM
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2.3k, which is a steal coz she's actually priceless
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Woah! Cute dog.
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Nov 14 2009, 12:36 PM
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CHICK MAGNET!!!!!!!!!!!
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Can't imagine if one has a drooler like this in in the house. |
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Nov 14 2009, 12:50 PM
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now this thread become a doggie thread...??
if yes, then this is mine.... This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Nov 14 2009, 12:56 PM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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wow.. you have maltese.. am i correct? how old is your doggie?
i think if got 2 black bar bside will look ugly.. i'll discuss with my uncle about that.. thanks ya.. |
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QUOTE(memyself @ Nov 14 2009, 12:53 PM) wow.. you have maltese.. am i correct? how old is your doggie? wah... good guess, u must be doggie pro i think if got 2 black bar bside will look ugly.. i'll discuss with my uncle about that.. thanks ya.. she's 1 yr young |
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nope.. i'm not.. i love animals.. thats all.. lol.. u can see my doggie in my siggy.. still small..
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 11:46 AM) oh ok Why talk about aspect ratio suddenly got anjing come out wan ... Here goes, standard 4:3 ratio pictures are stretched sideways to fit the full screen of 16:9 ratio tvs (like typical LCDs & Plasmas today). Because of this sideway stretch, the 'ppl' will tend to look shorter / fatter So u can do 2 things, one is set the tv display back to 4:3 ratio.. this will put things back in perspective but u'll see black bars on each side of the tv Two, u could play 16:9 ratio movies and it'll be perfect btw, this is my cutie .. as an anology, put daschund lah - 16:9 effect ... short and long |
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QUOTE(memyself @ Nov 14 2009, 11:26 AM) adoi.. the actor and actress lor.. ish ish.. its not like in "the ring" movie ok..Added on November 14, 2009, 8:25 pm QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Nov 14 2009, 06:45 PM) Why talk about aspect ratio suddenly got anjing come out wan ... you know your dogs.. the white one above usually buy for girl wan.. (want to chase girl) .. as an anology, put daschund lah - 16:9 effect ... short and long This post has been edited by ar188: Nov 14 2009, 08:25 PM |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 14 2009, 08:22 PM) you know your dogs.. the white one above usually buy for girl wan.. (want to chase girl) oohh.. this ronnt ah, got udang sebalik anjing wan, i see ... This post has been edited by Lone*Wolf: Nov 14 2009, 08:44 PM |
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Nov 14 2009, 08:47 PM
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hehe... that day i took her to batu feringghi jalan jalan, so many pretty chicks approached me and give me their numbers
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Nov 14 2009, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 08:47 PM) hehe... that day i took her to batu feringghi jalan jalan, so many pretty chicks approached me and give me their numbers ahh, imagine then what they would give you if u have bought a daschund instead ... |
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Nov 14 2009, 08:50 PM
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probably 2 buns to wrap the sausage dog with
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Nov 14 2009, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 08:50 PM) probably 2 buns to wrap the sausage dog with |
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Nov 16 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Nov 14 2009, 08:50 PM) probably 2 buns to wrap the sausage dog with For a moment there, I thought I had logged onto the wrong thread. |
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Nov 16 2009, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Nov 16 2009, 02:20 PM) For a moment there, I thought I had logged onto the wrong thread. thread is correct, only 1 or 2 post is wrong.. |
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Nov 16 2009, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(slk5538 @ Nov 16 2009, 02:20 PM) For a moment there, I thought I had logged onto the wrong thread. 'intermission' posts mah... watch TV program also got iklan la .... |
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 11 2009, 10:47 AM) I heard from a fren too, but he got it from another fren.. etc etc etc.... Thats because sammy lower end models (and even some of their higher end ones) do not use S-LCD panels =.=. They use AUOsI would understand on the PQ as it makes sense a series higher would excel better than the series lower. On quality/reliability wise, I thought they should come from the same factory, unless the parts and panels they use for 5 series and below are much much cheaper parts... I was considering the 5 series for my parents, but now may change to 6 series if this is true. Now it's gonna cost me more.. |
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Nov 17 2009, 10:14 AM
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eerr.... mine to explain the AUOs and S-LCD? This is too technical for me..
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Nov 17 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 17 2009, 10:14 AM) eerr.... mine to explain the AUOs and S-LCD? This is too technical for me.. S-LCD uses their propriety technology. Sorry the tech name slipped my memory =.=. Most of it tends to have better PQ compared to the cheaper AUO and CMO panels. Not to say AUO panels are bad. They too have high end panels, but most suppliers tent to opt AUO for cost saving purposes, thus they usually will source the cheaper panels. Also, have to factor in production volume la. If samsung's S-LCD plant is unable to churn out enough panels to meet demand, then they usually make the switch to AUO.This caused quite a big hoo haa in the US when consumers found out that their high end samsungs do not contain samsung panels =.=. PQ difference was noticable enough for them to make noise. |
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Nov 17 2009, 10:44 AM
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Thanks mate. So anyone knows whether Sammy LCD 5 series & 6 series uses which panel type?
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Nov 17 2009, 11:06 AM
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my friend just bought a samsung 40b530 and get a C Panel type but still PQ to me is good just that need to tuning for better color reproduction..to me is not matter for this kind of price he paid (RM26xx) is worth the money....to get S Panel is like lottery if u lucky enough u can get S Panel for 5 Series...and one of my friend also purchased 40b650 which is not S Panel instead is A Panel...
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Nov 17 2009, 11:16 AM
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Hmmm.... summary
1. 5 series - C panel 2. 6 series - A panel So, what A & C panels means..... ???? |
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Nov 17 2009, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 17 2009, 11:16 AM) Hmmm.... summary if i not mistaken, A is AUO, C is CMO1. 5 series - C panel 2. 6 series - A panel So, what A & C panels means..... ???? S panel is SLCD. AUO and CMO are the cheaper ones. Both are taiwanese made. SLCD is korean made. Actually most if not all makers source from these few LCD makers (and to a lesser extent, Sharp). |
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Nov 17 2009, 11:40 AM
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Thats why better to buy PLASMA..
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Nov 17 2009, 11:42 AM
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how to benchmark between panel C & A?
A panel better? or C? |
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Nov 17 2009, 12:05 PM
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QUOTE(fourzee @ Nov 17 2009, 11:40 AM) Thats why better to buy PLASMA.. That isnt a good reason to consider plasma over lcd.. If you want to argue black levels, if you want to argue response time, then its a valid arguement. But to say that you should choose plasma because people change panels in their product does not hold water. Why? Because its common activity in any design of mass produced consumer product to carry out cost cutting activities. Everyone does it. Even plasma tv makers do this. Its common design practice. If not how can 'price drop' of a model occur? How do you expect Samsung or any other LCD TV makers give you hundres or even thousands in discount for their TV as they approach the end of the product's life?Thats why, for fast moving technological based products such as electronic items, etc etc, its better to purchase them towards the beginning or early mid-life (after most of the problems have been ironed out), than towards end-life, because by then, most of the products will have cheaper parts on it. QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 17 2009, 11:42 AM) how to benchmark between panel C & A? The general consensus is AUO is better than CMO, and SLCD better than AUO, but it really is dependant on:A panel better? or C? 1) Type / model of LCD used. AUO and CMO both have their high end products, but their cheaper, mid-end to low-end panels are the fast movers because they are used by various LCD companies (both LCD TV and computer monitor companies). So most of the time, you'll see the low/mid-end AUO/CMO used in companies such as Samsung which have their own LCD producting plant. 2) Processing engine. AUO lcds can look better than SLCD lcds if the software/hardware running the AUO is better than the one on the SLCD. |
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Nov 17 2009, 01:07 PM
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i can proudly said that my samsung 9 series tv is S Panel and PQ is top notch...worth the money spend
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Nov 17 2009, 01:21 PM
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eh, how u know urs is S Panel ler??
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Nov 17 2009, 01:46 PM
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just see the sticker on the right side of my tv showing SSQ1 which is S - Panel and so confirm is from Samsung original panel but S - Panel have 1 weakness which is having poor off angle viewing if rules out this then the samsung series 9 is the perfect tv due to very good color reproduction once u tuned it properly and i very satisfy with my tv
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Nov 17 2009, 01:48 PM
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how is know whether the sammy lcd is using S,A or C panel???
My right side sticker have Model Code, Serial No and Version... SO which one will tell the panel? This post has been edited by Vinceyang: Nov 17 2009, 01:51 PM |
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Nov 17 2009, 01:56 PM
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if i am not wrong it would the version which u should checked the letter is start with S,A or C..
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Nov 17 2009, 02:02 PM
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my sammy version is ss01, is it samsung panel?
Also, anyone here know which type of panel technology is use for sammy 6 series... TN, IPS or VA?? |
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Nov 17 2009, 02:44 PM
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hi vince,
yep your is samsung panel |
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Nov 17 2009, 02:48 PM
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Wonder if those Sammy LED panel uses S -Panel or not? They better be!!
Added on November 17, 2009, 2:49 pm QUOTE(Vinceyang @ Nov 17 2009, 02:02 PM) my sammy version is ss01, is it samsung panel? Vince, are u using 6 series?Also, anyone here know which type of panel technology is use for sammy 6 series... TN, IPS or VA?? This post has been edited by de_lasoul: Nov 17 2009, 02:49 PM |
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Nov 17 2009, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 17 2009, 02:48 PM) Wonder if those Sammy LED panel uses S -Panel or not? They better be!! http://news.cens.com/cens/html/en/news/news_inner_29818.html |
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Nov 17 2009, 04:30 PM
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squall, yah!!
De_lasoul, yeah. 6 series.. but the older A version. Oh, I remember read this some where... AUO's panel is using MPA technology while samsung panel is using S-IPS... wandering which is more superior in term of PQ, response time and viewing angle |
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Nov 18 2009, 10:12 PM
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try to check on the site HDGURU
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Nov 18 2009, 11:32 PM
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Pioneer MY is clearing its KRP500 now with freebie. One of the best display panel if not the best (price tag too
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Nov 19 2009, 11:10 AM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 18 2009, 11:32 PM) Pioneer MY is clearing its KRP500 now with freebie. One of the best display panel if not the best (price tag too Whats the freebie? ) |
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Nov 19 2009, 12:02 PM
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What's the price tag?
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Nov 19 2009, 12:36 PM
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RRP: RM13,999 comes with free HDMI cable and stand. 5 yrs warranty too. Still, elite price tag meant for elite Chew. *cabut*
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Nov 19 2009, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Nov 19 2009, 12:36 PM) RRP: RM13,999 comes with free HDMI cable and stand. 5 yrs warranty too. Still, elite price tag meant for elite Chew. *cabut* Price dropped quite a bit. Do u know if there are limited units left? |
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Nov 19 2009, 05:19 PM
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Not sure about it but I guess it sld be since this is a rather premium product.
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Nov 19 2009, 05:46 PM
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what about KRP-600M??
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Nov 19 2009, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Nov 19 2009, 05:46 PM) what about KRP-600M?? See? Real elites only look at 600M. Elite-wannabe peasants like me can only *think* about 500M. Anyways, if RRP is RM13,999, if street price can get below 5 figures I will sapu. |
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Nov 19 2009, 05:57 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 19 2009, 05:53 PM) See? Real elites only look at 600M. Elite-wannabe peasants like me can only *think* about 500M. me only using 1366*768 panel now Anyways, if RRP is RM13,999, if street price can get below 5 figures I will sapu. I think I go get the LG 60" lar...cheap cheap & big big... real elite using 1080p projector with 100" screen in a separate HT room....us watching "TV" in living room all peasant nia.... |
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Nov 19 2009, 06:00 PM
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Taikor MPWY, which LG 60" is "cheap and big"?
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Nov 19 2009, 06:03 PM
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LG fullHD 60" plasma list price RM14,999 (or is it 13,999?) nia mar, go HN and see....
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Nov 19 2009, 06:09 PM
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13,999 NIAH MAR!!!
LG PG30, PG60 and PG70 all full HD with ISF calibration ready!!! Bro Anfieldude any comments and experience with those LG models? Added on November 19, 2009, 6:15 pmFuiyoh was browsing the internet for PG60 and saw MPYW posting about it in avsforums back in 2008! This post has been edited by chewkl: Nov 19 2009, 06:15 PM |
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Nov 19 2009, 06:26 PM
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chew.. projector la..
everything else is half ba???? |
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Nov 19 2009, 06:33 PM
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I got a half-baked house, so projector not ngam for me.
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Nov 19 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 19 2009, 06:09 PM) 13,999 NIAH MAR!!! LGs main problem is mediocre black levels..LG PG30, PG60 and PG70 all full HD with ISF calibration ready!!! Bro Anfieldude any comments and experience with those LG models? Added on November 19, 2009, 6:15 pmFuiyoh was browsing the internet for PG60 and saw MPYW posting about it in avsforums back in 2008! Decent greyscale, good CMS, but not that great black levels. |
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Nov 19 2009, 08:55 PM
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So Sammy B650 is a overall better buy than the PG60 I presume?
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Nov 19 2009, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 19 2009, 08:55 PM) So Sammy B650 is a overall better buy than the PG60 I presume? I would reckon yeah. The 650 has better black levels, has a 3D CMS and a 2 point greyscale.The only point to LGs favour is the 10 point greyscale, but IMHO both don't do greyscale that well. |
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Nov 19 2009, 10:12 PM
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hi everyone here.. anyone can give me some advice on what lcd to buy
i have a budget from 2.3k-2.5k i m currently looking at panasonic LCD L37S10K any advice on what to get? using for PS3 and some bluray.. |
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Nov 19 2009, 10:42 PM
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Sigh...if only 500M is below 10k.
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Nov 19 2009, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 19 2009, 10:42 PM) Sigh...if only 500M is below 10k. KRP-500.. 6k.. get your kawan to send it back from LA.. |
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Nov 20 2009, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Nov 19 2009, 05:46 PM) what about KRP-600M?? That, I am not sure.QUOTE Anyways, if RRP is RM13,999, if street price can get below 5 figures I will sapu. thumbup.gif Dont think so can get it below 5 fig mark. Even below that, me small fry cant sapu like you buying peanuts Btw, I dont think it's KRP500M. It's 500A as in its MY website |
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Nov 20 2009, 04:54 AM
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hi bro, been looking at everyone's comments about hdtv...but it is crunch time for me to pickup a hdtv for mainly movies. sitting distance is 9-10 feet. if i can pickup a kuro @ 50 inch at the same price as a "korean" plasma (>=60 inch), which one wud you guys advice? size over blackness?
both panel at 1080p... |
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Nov 20 2009, 08:11 AM
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QUOTE(pissmad @ Nov 20 2009, 04:54 AM) hi bro, been looking at everyone's comments about hdtv...but it is crunch time for me to pickup a hdtv for mainly movies. sitting distance is 9-10 feet. if i can pickup a kuro @ 50 inch at the same price as a "korean" plasma (>=60 inch), which one wud you guys advice? size over blackness? go get that KRP-500A....wont regret..... both panel at 1080p... |
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Nov 20 2009, 08:23 AM
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Can U please be so kind to let us know where U can pick up a 500A for the price of a korean plasma?
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Nov 20 2009, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 20 2009, 08:23 AM) Can U please be so kind to let us know where U can pick up a 500A for the price of a korean plasma? bos he said korean >60 inch vs 500.. |
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Nov 20 2009, 08:48 AM
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Oh...so much for wishful thinking.
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Nov 20 2009, 09:47 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 17 2009, 02:48 PM) Wonder if those Sammy LED panel uses S -Panel or not? They better be!! It's worth mentioning that the Samsung exists in 3 forms depending on what panel Samsung decided to put in it.Added on November 17, 2009, 2:49 pm Vince, are u using 6 series? You can identify the panel type by looking at the sticker on the right hand side of the TV's frame SQ panels (Made by Samsung) This is the panel you want CMO panel (Made by Chi Mei Optroelectronics) Best avoided in my opinion AOU panels (Made by AU Optronics) Some people are complaining about these panels not being as good as the SQ panels. They seem to be superior to CMO panels though |
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Nov 20 2009, 10:09 AM
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QUOTE(formalin @ Nov 20 2009, 09:47 AM) It's worth mentioning that the Samsung exists in 3 forms depending on what panel Samsung decided to put in it. bro formalin,You can identify the panel type by looking at the sticker on the right hand side of the TV's frame SQ panels (Made by Samsung) This is the panel you want CMO panel (Made by Chi Mei Optroelectronics) Best avoided in my opinion AOU panels (Made by AU Optronics) Some people are complaining about these panels not being as good as the SQ panels. They seem to be superior to CMO panels though this is base on ur real experience or something that you read on the internet?? |
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Nov 20 2009, 10:50 AM
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tq sifus
actually i am looking at a 63 inch samsung to be exact...let me see if i can dig the panel specs... running at 1080p and thx recommendations, 63/65 inch will give "immersive" movie experience like cinemas if watching from 8-9 feet..i dun want a projector, dats why am looking at plasma. I do really like the 500a |
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Nov 20 2009, 10:59 AM
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Woohoo.. 63"
Shiok!! |
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Nov 20 2009, 01:52 PM
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First time I heard got 63" plasma.
Just now went to HN to look see look see the LG PG60. Bro Anfieldude is spot on, the black is more like dark gray... |
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Nov 20 2009, 02:40 PM
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Nov 20 2009, 02:47 PM
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[quote=chewkl,Nov 20 2009, 01:52 PM]
First time I heard got 63" plasma. Sinkapoh models bro. Their Series 6 & 7 long time ago got 63" ones already. Here apa habuk pun tarak. I think you must have memorised almost all the available models avail at the 3 major display outlets in QB... |
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Nov 20 2009, 03:16 PM
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What to do bro Braveheart, peasant can only look see look see cos cannot afford to buy.
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Nov 20 2009, 03:47 PM
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Your look see look see is to decide which want you will buy and not cos you cannot afford to buy. Bcos it is still too early to buy and I know you don't want to keep them in the box yet until the time is ripe to devirginise them.
It's good that you still have time to wait as so many new models will be coming out come year end and you have better multiple choices. |
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Nov 20 2009, 03:49 PM
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so, noobie user wanting to upgrade from my old 32" Philips LCD.
Budget max RM 3.5k, recommendations? I just checked out the S550 Sony, I know, it's entry level, but for me it's tempting. Then there's the Philips series 3000 which to me is seriously cacat. Sifus help appreciated. |
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Nov 20 2009, 08:22 PM
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braveheart/bros, the model just launched is a bigger 600 series plasma, P63B680, assembled here.
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Nov 20 2009, 09:27 PM
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wah walmart black friday deals
Sanyo 50″ DP50719 Plasma HDTV $598.00 = RM2100... |
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Nov 20 2009, 09:44 PM
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Didn't know Sanyo is also a plasma player.
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Nov 20 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 20 2009, 09:44 PM) Didn't know Sanyo is also a plasma player. yeah just like didn't know you are a 360 fansi... |
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Nov 20 2009, 10:04 PM
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Not fansi lah...sometimes stressed liao just need to let go some steam. So go whack some virtual guy on the screen loh.
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Nov 20 2009, 10:18 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 20 2009, 10:04 PM) Not fansi lah...sometimes stressed liao just need to let go some steam. So go whack some virtual guy on the screen loh. oh.. no wonder some on-line fellas kena whacked/sounding from you for posting half-baked comments.. |
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Nov 20 2009, 11:13 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Nov 20 2009, 09:44 PM) Didn't know Sanyo is also a plasma player. Didn't know Sanyo still a TV player |
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Nov 21 2009, 10:14 AM
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Planning to buy lcd/plasma tv next week. max budget rm6k. plz help me choose the best tv with that price. looking for fullHD, hdmi 1.3 and 42-50in.
purpose : connected to pc/ps3 for gaming/internet/movies. This post has been edited by norazwan79: Nov 21 2009, 10:16 AM |
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Nov 21 2009, 11:42 AM
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Samsung launched 63" plasma? I couldn't find information from the samsung my site.
Let me check with my friend. |
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Nov 23 2009, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(formalin @ Nov 20 2009, 09:47 AM) It's worth mentioning that the Samsung exists in 3 forms depending on what panel Samsung decided to put in it. Went to BEST DENKI just now to check out the Sammy LCDs. Seems 46" and above mostly uses S panels... You can identify the panel type by looking at the sticker on the right hand side of the TV's frame SQ panels (Made by Samsung) This is the panel you want CMO panel (Made by Chi Mei Optroelectronics) Best avoided in my opinion AOU panels (Made by AU Optronics) Some people are complaining about these panels not being as good as the SQ panels. They seem to be superior to CMO panels though 40" and below have S, C & A type panels... saw the 5 series uses A panel & 6 series uses C panel... shouldn't the A panel be superior to the C panels? |
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Nov 23 2009, 10:47 PM
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Just one noob question ... if indeed that they say that Plasma TV is derived from old CRT technology, and LCD is the thing of the future, why do most forums i visit they still recommend Plasma over LCD if u want to watch hi-def contents like Blu-Ray movies???
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Nov 24 2009, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(petrofsky77 @ Nov 23 2009, 10:47 PM) Just one noob question ... if indeed that they say that Plasma TV is derived from old CRT technology, and LCD is the thing of the future, why do most forums i visit they still recommend Plasma over LCD if u want to watch hi-def contents like Blu-Ray movies??? My opinion is, Plasma is cheaper compared to LCD* yet in term of technology, both got it own strength in certain aspects and weak in other aspects. No one can claim that either technology can totally superior than another technology.* The bigger the size of Plasma the cheaper the production costs whereas, the LCD is opposite, at least now. I prefer Plasma not only it cost less but also look more natural. Just my 2 cents. |
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Nov 24 2009, 10:53 AM
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guys where is the thread where a forrumer advertise about TVs in his shop with prices? i couldnt find his thread.
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Nov 24 2009, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 23 2009, 09:59 PM) Went to BEST DENKI just now to check out the Sammy LCDs. Seems 46" and above mostly uses S panels... I found the Sammy LA46B650B uses the A panel. Good or not?40" and below have S, C & A type panels... saw the 5 series uses A panel & 6 series uses C panel... shouldn't the A panel be superior to the C panels? BTW, Sony 46Z550A quoted rm7.7k, worth buying? |
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Nov 24 2009, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Nov 24 2009, 11:03 AM) I found the Sammy LA46B650B uses the A panel. Good or not? I am still confuse over the superiority between A & C panels... but if A panels is placed into the 6 series, and C panel into the 5 series, then logically I guess A panel should be the better one since it makes sense to put a better panel into a higher series. BTW, Sony 46Z550A quoted rm7.7k, worth buying? But what I saw was the opposite with 5 series using A panels and 6 series using C panels in BEST DENKI 40" displays. I saw the B630 46" uses S panel then. Seems no standard panel with your input on 46" 6 series using A panel. As for your Sony 46 Z series for a price of RM7.7K, veli hard to comment ler... during the launch, it was >RM10K. Now it is RM7.7K, but then RM7.7K for a 46" seems a bit high also. Then again, if the Sony Z series fits your expectation, and u do have the budget, by all means u may get it. In the end, you should be the one enjoying it. You have been scouting around for a display for some time now, it will never end if you don't decide cause there will be more models coming, and you will continue to be undecisive and this will cont & cont. Just decide on the model Vs budget that fits your criteria. |
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Nov 24 2009, 11:56 AM
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you also need to know what year is the series eg model numbers with A=2008 and B=2009 production units. The Series no's 4,5,6,7,8 also got year 2008 & year 2009 hence maybe the confusion created.
Confusing part is Series 8 LCD is all year 2008 prod units whereas other series no has 2009 units. This post has been edited by braveheart: Nov 24 2009, 12:30 PM |
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Nov 24 2009, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 24 2009, 11:35 AM) I am still confuse over the superiority between A & C panels... but if A panels is placed into the 6 series, and C panel into the 5 series, then logically I guess A panel should be the better one since it makes sense to put a better panel into a higher series. Bro, thks for yr advice.But what I saw was the opposite with 5 series using A panels and 6 series using C panels in BEST DENKI 40" displays. I saw the B630 46" uses S panel then. Seems no standard panel with your input on 46" 6 series using A panel. As for your Sony 46 Z series for a price of RM7.7K, veli hard to comment ler... during the launch, it was >RM10K. Now it is RM7.7K, but then RM7.7K for a 46" seems a bit high also. Then again, if the Sony Z series fits your expectation, and u do have the budget, by all means u may get it. In the end, you should be the one enjoying it. You have been scouting around for a display for some time now, it will never end if you don't decide cause there will be more models coming, and you will continue to be undecisive and this will cont & cont. Just decide on the model Vs budget that fits your criteria. |
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Nov 24 2009, 02:50 PM
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QUOTE(nimrod323 @ Nov 24 2009, 10:53 AM) guys where is the thread where a forrumer advertise about TVs in his shop with prices? i couldnt find his thread. http://forum.lowyat.net/user/kevinc66thread is http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1163512&hl= |
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Nov 25 2009, 12:52 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Nov 24 2009, 11:35 AM) I am still confuse over the superiority between A & C panels... but if A panels is placed into the 6 series, and C panel into the 5 series, then logically I guess A panel should be the better one since it makes sense to put a better panel into a higher series. its not as simple as A panel > C panel.But what I saw was the opposite with 5 series using A panels and 6 series using C panels in BEST DENKI 40" displays. I saw the B630 46" uses S panel then. Seems no standard panel with your input on 46" 6 series using A panel. As for your Sony 46 Z series for a price of RM7.7K, veli hard to comment ler... during the launch, it was >RM10K. Now it is RM7.7K, but then RM7.7K for a 46" seems a bit high also. Then again, if the Sony Z series fits your expectation, and u do have the budget, by all means u may get it. In the end, you should be the one enjoying it. You have been scouting around for a display for some time now, it will never end if you don't decide cause there will be more models coming, and you will continue to be undecisive and this will cont & cont. Just decide on the model Vs budget that fits your criteria. just like AUO, CMO also have an extensive line of LCD panels, from high end panels to low end panels. their lcd panel line up is very very extensive. they cater to all types of lcd market, including PC monitors, peripheral monitors, laptop monitors, etc etc. So, just their LCD line, they have many many types with different specs. Now just knowing whether its "A" type or "C" type wont be enough to tell u which panel is better. Even A panels in different series, or sometimes in same series but different time of the year, might differ in performance and characteristic. It really depends on the costing of the company, the panel production capabilities of the various LCD makers, etc etc. Of course it would be ideal for Samsung to stick with SLCD throughout the lifetime of a particular model, but in reality, SLCD might not be able to maintain their production quantity to keep up with the demand. Or, Samsung might need to 'slash' their model prices as it nears end of year, or end of product life, so they cant continue to use SLCD panels, and decide to use cheaper ones. All this changes in LCD panels are basically inevitable, unless of course you want to continue paying the same launch price of a LCD TV, even after the product is 1 year old. That said, what matters the most, is that all these changes can be justified, IF, the LCD TV makers are able to maintain the quality/reliability/performance/characteristics of the model, throughout the lifetime of the product. If they are able to maintain that, even after changing panels, then it would be good. This post has been edited by daijoubu: Nov 25 2009, 12:54 AM |
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Nov 25 2009, 09:52 AM
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All Shi fu,
May I know the different about TH-L42S10K and TX-42LZ80MK, both Panasonic Full HD LCD. Can't see much different? Which one is better? Thanks. |
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Nov 25 2009, 11:37 AM
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42LZ80MK IS AN OLD MODEL ...
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Nov 25 2009, 11:49 AM
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QUOTE(sky heart @ Nov 25 2009, 11:37 AM) 42LZ80MK IS AN OLD MODEL ... Yup, the sales man keep say this older model is better than S10K. And the Panasonic Web emphasis on this model for 2 years Warranty.http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/productsso...v/plasmatvlcdtv So no idea on the different? the Spec looks quite similar also.... |
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Nov 25 2009, 04:05 PM
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Hi all..
intend to buy new tv..32" or 42" budget within 2.5k..dont know which brand to go for.. LCD??Plasma?? which one is better? only watch 3-4 hrs per day, no astro, no gaming, but will plug with notebook n watch dvd.. please recommend me some units .. thanks |
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Dec 8 2009, 01:45 PM
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just got my p42x18 from sengheng..
email to panasonic about the break-in procedur.......... below what they reply... When your Plasma TV is initially installed, the first 100 hours of use is known as the "break-in period." During this time, to minimize any risk of image retention, you should: 1. Make sure the Plasma TV is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen. The panel is shipped in this condition, in what is called the "Just" mode. 2. Turn down the Picture setting (in the Picture menu) to +0. 3. Briefly engage the 4:3 mode and confirm the side bars are set to "Mid", or "Bright". This can be adjusted in the Set Up menu. 4. Always return the display mode that fills the screen (such as Just, Zoom, Full, or H-FILL). 5. Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time. 6. Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.). |
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Dec 8 2009, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(fizzy15 @ Dec 8 2009, 01:45 PM) just got my p42x18 from sengheng.. Oh....this is bad...I thought suppose the burn in thingy is negligible ?email to panasonic about the break-in procedur.......... below what they reply... When your Plasma TV is initially installed, the first 100 hours of use is known as the "break-in period." During this time, to minimize any risk of image retention, you should: 1. Make sure the Plasma TV is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen. The panel is shipped in this condition, in what is called the "Just" mode. 2. Turn down the Picture setting (in the Picture menu) to +0. 3. Briefly engage the 4:3 mode and confirm the side bars are set to "Mid", or "Bright". This can be adjusted in the Set Up menu. 4. Always return the display mode that fills the screen (such as Just, Zoom, Full, or H-FILL). 5. Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time. 6. Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.). |
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Dec 8 2009, 05:19 PM
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Donno if this a good place to ask but, is the samsung lcd tv la40b550 a good choice?
budget around rm3.5k~ tomorrow need to buy ady, and tonight a bit bz to do some google research. so hopefully got sifu out there can help out. wat wud u guys recommend for that kind of budget for 40 inch and above? thanks the senq guys brainwashed my mum too much regarding the warranty, tats y my mum decided to pikir2 1st. the tv is for living room usage.. much thanks =) |
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Dec 8 2009, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(brokenbomb @ Dec 8 2009, 05:19 PM) Donno if this a good place to ask but, is the samsung lcd tv la40b550 a good choice? with rm 3.5k budget , u can go for better lcd tv.....budget around rm3.5k~ tomorrow need to buy ady, and tonight a bit bz to do some google research. so hopefully got sifu out there can help out. wat wud u guys recommend for that kind of budget for 40 inch and above? thanks the senq guys brainwashed my mum too much regarding the warranty, tats y my mum decided to pikir2 1st. the tv is for living room usage.. much thanks =) coz samsung-la-40b550 & b530 are almost same spec. ,only samsung-40b550 got 1 usb input...... with 3.k budget ,u can get 100hz lcd tv , or even 200hz lcd tv .....or top-up some money to get series 6 samsung lcd tv .. |
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Dec 8 2009, 11:57 PM
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i was aiming for the sony s550 40 inch series. ok ka? since well the usb can play movie, unlike samsung l40b550.
besides, 3 years warranty! lol |
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Dec 9 2009, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(sky heart @ Dec 8 2009, 10:40 PM) with rm 3.5k budget , u can go for better lcd tv..... Sure boh 3k can get 40" 200Hz LCD TV? Made in Pakistan? coz samsung-la-40b550 & b530 are almost same spec. ,only samsung-40b550 got 1 usb input...... with 3.k budget ,u can get 100hz lcd tv , or even 200hz lcd tv .....or top-up some money to get series 6 samsung lcd tv .. |
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Dec 9 2009, 09:40 AM
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3k kenot get la.
My Philips PFL5609 was 3.2k at Philips Warehouse sale. USB port can play RMVB! |
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Dec 9 2009, 01:15 PM
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LG-42LH50YR only rm 3.6k
philips-42pfl5609s only rm 3k |
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Dec 9 2009, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(dannyw @ Nov 25 2009, 09:52 AM) All Shi fu, TH-42S10K PlasmaMay I know the different about TH-L42S10K and TX-42LZ80MK, both Panasonic Full HD LCD. Can't see much different? Which one is better? Thanks. TX-42LZ80MK LCD |
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Dec 9 2009, 02:46 PM
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QUOTE(sky heart @ Dec 9 2009, 01:15 PM) LG-42LH50YR only rm 3.6k Wah, the philips set only 3k? All the main retailers selling it for RM 3999.philips-42pfl5609s only rm 3k |
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Dec 9 2009, 05:48 PM
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i have some prob wit m p42s10k. anyone can help? i'm connect to to my hdmi port 3 i tink, there's rca for audio. isit usable? or must i connect using the vga (PC) or video rca... Cos i try to connect my sound to the RCA jack while connect my video to HDMI, there's no sound coming out fr my speaker...
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Dec 13 2009, 11:01 PM
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Just got back from HK, manage to find and view the new Philips 21:9 LCD TV.
At 56", it was priced at HKD50K (approx RM23K) . Can find at most common outlets such as Fortress & Broadway (these are similar to SENQ, Harvey Norman, SEC here). I must say the PQ is not that impressive, compared to the latest (higher versions) of 16:9 LCD or Plasma. Since it is the first of it's kind, the PQ can be forgiven. However, the ratio aspect similar to viewing in the cinema is really nice. I just upgraded my next wish list, once the PQ improves and price tumbling down of course..... |
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Dec 13 2009, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(choontoy @ Dec 9 2009, 01:21 PM) TH-42S10K Plasma Its TH-L42S10K and its a LCD. Dun blame you though, Panasonic's guilty of making things confusing for their potential customers!TX-42LZ80MK LCD |
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Dec 13 2009, 11:17 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 13 2009, 11:01 PM) Just got back from HK, manage to find and view the new Philips 21:9 LCD TV. RM23K is higher than what it retails here in Malaysia, launching price was a few ringgit shy of RM20K. But this is only useful for watching cinemascope movies. Already people are complaining about 16:9 'flattening' the image, imagine what 21:9 can do! At 56", it was priced at HKD50K (approx RM23K) . Can find at most common outlets such as Fortress & Broadway (these are similar to SENQ, Harvey Norman, SEC here). I must say the PQ is not that impressive, compared to the latest (higher versions) of 16:9 LCD or Plasma. Since it is the first of it's kind, the PQ can be forgiven. However, the ratio aspect similar to viewing in the cinema is really nice. I just upgraded my next wish list, once the PQ improves and price tumbling down of course..... |
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Dec 14 2009, 12:08 AM
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CODE Model LCD-32K30 Screen Size 32 inch Picture Resolution WXGA (1366 x 768) Picture Contrast 11000:1 Response Time 6.5 ms Viewing Angle Horizontal 178 deg / Vertical 178 deg Colour System PAL / PAL60Hz / SECAM / NTSC / NTSC 4.43 Receiving System B / G, D / K, I, M Audio Output 10W + 10W Speakers 6 x 12 cm: 2p AV Terminals PC input: D-SUB 15pin / Stereo mini Video input: AV1: S-VIDEO (S) V, L, R AV2: Y (V), Pb / Cb, Pr / Cr, L, R HDMI: HDMI × 3 Monitor Out: V, L., R Headphone Jack Power Source AC110 - 242V, 50/60Hz Power consumption 117 W Size (W x H x D) 789 x 551 x 272 mm Weight 12.5 kg Seems like Sanyo is kinda 'cold' brand around here.. let's say for above model and specs, the price for it is around RM1.2k ... worth to buy it? From a n00b's eye, the spec is almost like Sammie Series 4 32 inch |
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Dec 14 2009, 12:37 AM
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QUOTE(ed0gawa @ Dec 14 2009, 12:08 AM) Seems like Sanyo is kinda 'cold' brand around here.. |
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Dec 15 2009, 10:29 AM
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Anyone got any idea the price for Panasonic TH-P65V10K?
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Dec 15 2009, 01:57 PM
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I got an offer for Sony Bravia LCD TV 40 Inches- S Series
Model: KLV-40S550 Free Gift : Sony DVD Player and HDMI Cable Price : RM3299 with Cash rebate of RM250 after one month purchase Net Price : RM3049 Is it worth to buy? Please comment |
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Dec 16 2009, 08:03 PM
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QUOTE(ppguy2006 @ Dec 15 2009, 01:57 PM) I got an offer for Sony Bravia LCD TV 40 Inches- S Series someone in garage sales sell it at RM2850 only.Model: KLV-40S550 Free Gift : Sony DVD Player and HDMI Cable Price : RM3299 with Cash rebate of RM250 after one month purchase Net Price : RM3049 Is it worth to buy? Please comment |
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Dec 16 2009, 09:46 PM
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Guys, is it true that the 100hz/200hz/1232170512hz refresh rate is just a gimmick ? From my observation, there's no difference between 60hz lcd tv and 100hz tv
Im looking for a new lcd tv and wanted to get the 100hz tv but the difference in price is too big. Oh and one more thing, new plasma tvs can connect to PC with 1920 x 1080 resolution right ? I read somewhere that plasma is not recommended if u want to connect it to a pc because the resolution is lower or something like that. But that was few years back This post has been edited by munky: Dec 16 2009, 09:48 PM |
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Dec 16 2009, 09:49 PM
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Where is the link
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Dec 17 2009, 08:40 AM
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Malaysia's Panasonic website just include this product in their list.
 TH-P54Z1S High Picture Quality Full High-Definition Moving Picture Resolution 1080 Lines Infinite Black with Over 2,000,000:1Dynamic Contrast THX Certified Display 6,144 Equivalent Steps of Gradation 24p Smooth Film Deep Color x.v. Color Smart Networking SD Link - JPEG/MPEG2/AVCHD VIERA Link HDMI X 4 Game Mode VIERA Tools PC Input Others 1-inch Thinness Mercury and Lead Free Panel Long Panel Life, Up to 100,000 Hours At last, Malaysia also got this product . I wonder how much their will charge. Must be cheaper than TH-P65V10K. Link: http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/8626/Spec Added on December 17, 2009, 8:46 amOh ya! To those newbie, this is Plasma not LED LCD. Don't confused.This post has been edited by low98944: Dec 17 2009, 08:46 AM |
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Dec 17 2009, 08:51 AM
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look like time to upgrade to 54 or 65 inches
... whose lead for this.....? |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:01 AM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 17 2009, 08:40 AM) Malaysia's Panasonic website just include this product in their list. Cool info on this. Is it around 24k for this? TH-P54Z1S High Picture Quality Full High-Definition Moving Picture Resolution 1080 Lines Infinite Black with Over 2,000,000:1Dynamic Contrast THX Certified Display 6,144 Equivalent Steps of Gradation 24p Smooth Film Deep Color x.v. Color Smart Networking SD Link - JPEG/MPEG2/AVCHD VIERA Link HDMI X 4 Game Mode VIERA Tools PC Input Others 1-inch Thinness Mercury and Lead Free Panel Long Panel Life, Up to 100,000 Hours At last, Malaysia also got this product . I wonder how much their will charge. Must be cheaper than TH-P65V10K. Link: http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/pid/8626/Spec Added on December 17, 2009, 8:46 amOh ya! To those newbie, this is Plasma not LED LCD. Don't confused.Overseas is selling this for RM18k. |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 15 2009, 10:29 AM) Anyone got any idea the price for Panasonic TH-P65V10K? I was quote RM38k when they 1st launch.... I quick quick "siam"....... |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 17 2009, 09:06 AM) I was quote RM38k when they 1st launch.... I quick quick "siam"....... Added on December 17, 2009, 9:29 am QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Dec 17 2009, 09:01 AM) Cool info on this. Is it around 24k for this? Should be around that price. But, you know, sometimes their may give you very "surprise" price. Overseas is selling this for RM18k. Added on December 17, 2009, 9:30 am QUOTE(kayroll @ Dec 17 2009, 08:51 AM) look like time to upgrade to 54 or 65 inches How about you first. ... whose lead for this.....? This post has been edited by low98944: Dec 17 2009, 09:30 AM |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 17 2009, 09:06 AM) I was quote RM38k when they 1st launch.... I would get 4 x Panasonic PT-AE4000 with this sum of money. Air tickets inclusive. I quick quick "siam"....... Ketam excluded. I would lari kuat kuat if I were to see this price . Crazy price. Like throwing money into sea for this kind of price discrimination.Added on December 17, 2009, 9:32 am QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 17 2009, 09:25 AM) Should be around that price. But, you know, sometimes their may give you very "surprise" price. This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Dec 17 2009, 09:32 AM |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Dec 17 2009, 09:31 AM) Would rather spend the money on good projector and screen. Have the awesomeness of real big screen. big screen.. kheng.. watching 50inch like watching 29in CRT back in the days... |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Dec 17 2009, 09:25 AM) Added on December 17, 2009, 9:29 am Should be around that price. But, you know, sometimes their may give you very "surprise" price. Added on December 17, 2009, 9:30 am How about you first. |
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Dec 17 2009, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(kayroll @ Dec 17 2009, 09:46 AM) my next target is KURO..... match up with my LX82..... |
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Dec 17 2009, 10:58 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 17 2009, 09:43 AM) ..and light controlled room.. yea lor.. now 50" like damn small ler... and it's only been 3 months... big screen.. kheng.. watching 50inch like watching 29in CRT back in the days... so next is 21:9..56" hehe... |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 17 2009, 10:58 AM) yea lor.. now 50" like damn small ler... and it's only been 3 months... I was staring at it playing back BD demos for like 30-45minutes in the showroom.. also small leh (at my usual 8-10ft sitting distance).. unless I stand closer like 5-6feet away (to increase the viewing cone angle) so next is 21:9..56" hehe... |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Dec 17 2009, 10:58 AM) yea lor.. now 50" like damn small ler... and it's only been 3 months... Target Panasonic new 150" Plasma better la. You will not outdated soon. so next is 21:9..56" hehe... If 150" too big, how about 103" This post has been edited by low98944: Dec 17 2009, 11:42 AM |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:49 AM
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Went to imsobloodysick shop last week, and he said 54" Z is around 18K. Dunno whether he's referring to oversea price or malaysia price.
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Dec 17 2009, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(ICDeadPeople @ Dec 17 2009, 11:49 AM) Went to imsobloodysick shop last week, and he said 54" Z is around 18K. Dunno whether he's referring to oversea price or malaysia price. That is more reasonable price if it is Malaysia's price.Added on December 17, 2009, 11:54 amI wonder is Panasonic Malaysia want to sell the Speaker system for Z1 seperately?  Why I don't see speaker attached in that picture? This post has been edited by low98944: Dec 17 2009, 11:54 AM |
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Dec 17 2009, 12:24 PM
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Panasonic is CRAZY
to launch Z1 in Malaysia, should bring in 50V neoplasma which priced around 10K for all Malaysia videophile to enjoy ! This post has been edited by formalin: Dec 17 2009, 12:25 PM |
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Dec 17 2009, 01:25 PM
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QUOTE(formalin @ Dec 17 2009, 12:24 PM) Panasonic is CRAZY This product and 65V are for those Elites who think the price is reasonable/cheap. to launch Z1 in Malaysia, should bring in 50V neoplasma which priced around 10K for all Malaysia videophile to enjoy ! |
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QUOTE(fizzy15 @ Dec 8 2009, 01:45 PM) just got my p42x18 from sengheng.. again I ask for item no 5, here the replyemail to panasonic about the break-in procedur.......... below what they reply... When your Plasma TV is initially installed, the first 100 hours of use is known as the "break-in period." During this time, to minimize any risk of image retention, you should: 1. Make sure the Plasma TV is in a viewing mode (aspect ratio) that completely fills the screen. The panel is shipped in this condition, in what is called the "Just" mode. 2. Turn down the Picture setting (in the Picture menu) to +0. 3. Briefly engage the 4:3 mode and confirm the side bars are set to "Mid", or "Bright". This can be adjusted in the Set Up menu. 4. Always return the display mode that fills the screen (such as Just, Zoom, Full, or H-FILL). 5. Try not to view channels with stationary backgrounds or logos for extended periods of time. 6. Avoid extended display of static images (video games, computer images, DVD title screens, etc.). Your e-mail is noted. However, we regret for being unable to furnish you with the reply as burn-in isn’t going to happen from normal use. It will only happen under the highly rare condition that a high contrast image is constantly displayed for a very long time. Even the TV network’s logos are generally now a low contrast image. i guess no need to worry about burn-in anymore... currently in pic game mode for pic wobbling until 100hours... |
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Dec 17 2009, 01:37 PM
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Does anyone knows how to go into the screen saver/pixel orbiter/wobbling settings? Is it in the service menu or just normal menu ?
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Dec 17 2009, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Dec 17 2009, 01:37 PM) Does anyone knows how to go into the screen saver/pixel orbiter/wobbling settings? Is it in the service menu or just normal menu ? to my knowledge, if panasonic, wobbling can be enable through pic setting 'game' |
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Dec 17 2009, 01:53 PM
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dear all, any comment on this LCD TV TH-L32S10K @ RM2200?
I am trying looking for a 32" full HD LCD TV , found LG @ RM1600 which is quite a good deal... but i come across this panasonc L32S10K and when view at different angle , it color will not degrade. Unlike other model such as Samsung Series 5 550 or Philips 5609, both have some slight viewing angle problem ... |
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Dec 17 2009, 03:34 PM
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QUOTE(formalin @ Dec 17 2009, 12:24 PM) Panasonic is CRAZY I keep wondering what is their strategy by bringing 65 V instead of 50 V. I mean, alot of people can afford the 50" V more than the 65V or 54 Z. What is the point of bringing in something that not many can afford, when they can easily tap the market with 50" V? And I dont think by bringing 65V and 54 Z, they can use the 'very limited market so no point to sell it' excuse. to launch Z1 in Malaysia, should bring in 50V neoplasma which priced around 10K for all Malaysia videophile to enjoy ! |
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Dec 17 2009, 08:34 PM
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Z1 is entry level -.-
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Dec 17 2009, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(Lone*Wolf @ Dec 17 2009, 10:52 PM) cool it, bro. people having jualan hebat, sure need to advertise here, there and everywhere you buying ar taiwan clothing? |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 17 2009, 10:57 PM) you buying ar taiwan clothing? You buying arr? |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Dec 17 2009, 11:00 PM) You buying arr? someone call you noob... hahahhaha! |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:06 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 17 2009, 11:06 PM) someone call you noob... hahahhaha! Dupe of leyley. So obvious. |
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Dec 17 2009, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 17 2009, 11:06 PM) someone call you noob... hahahhaha! file report summore |
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Dec 18 2009, 12:05 AM
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come come ... come back to the topic
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Dec 18 2009, 03:26 PM
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Hei all, me is need some recommendation
plasma or LCD is ok, from 32" to 42", budget below rm4k. Any rcommend? Mostly will use to watch astro, normal DVD series nia, not blu Ray or even blu Ray rip for now |
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Dec 18 2009, 03:31 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Dec 18 2009, 03:26 PM) Hei all, me is need some recommendation taikoh finish buy car now buy hometheater? plasma or LCD is ok, from 32" to 42", budget below rm4k. Any rcommend? Mostly will use to watch astro, normal DVD series nia, not blu Ray or even blu Ray rip for now |
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My HT system already at my siggy long long d ma
this one is for other usage de Added on December 18, 2009, 6:00 pmSo bro, got any recommendation? This post has been edited by samlee860407: Dec 18 2009, 06:00 PM |
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Dec 18 2009, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Dec 18 2009, 05:55 PM) My HT system already at my siggy long long d ma get the panasonic S10 lor should be below 3k..this one is for other usage de Added on December 18, 2009, 6:00 pmSo bro, got any recommendation? |
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Dec 19 2009, 07:54 AM
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ooo okok thanks
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Dec 19 2009, 07:35 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Dec 18 2009, 03:26 PM) Hei all, me is need some recommendation Myself also will be mostly watching Astro, normal DVD & xbox gaming. After reading forums, reviews, etc I plan to purchase the Panasonic Plasma 42" Full HDTV S10K. Hope there is still some stocks around & below RM3K.plasma or LCD is ok, from 32" to 42", budget below rm4k. Any rcommend? Mostly will use to watch astro, normal DVD series nia, not blu Ray or even blu Ray rip for now Thanks |
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Dec 20 2009, 09:25 AM
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i see i see....guess will get that then
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Dec 20 2009, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Dec 18 2009, 05:55 PM) My HT system already at my siggy long long d ma Boss, still the current system that I noticed. Wow, did not infected with upgraditis virus this one is for other usage de |
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Dec 20 2009, 09:31 AM) Boss, still the current system that I noticed. Wow, did not infected with upgraditis virus haha....the reasons not kena virus is i rarely visit this thread these days.....wahahahbut now need to get new TV for another house, so guess gona kena poison soon again liao :S |
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Dec 20 2009, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(samlee860407 @ Dec 20 2009, 09:42 AM) haha....the reasons not kena virus is i rarely visit this thread these days.....wahahah That means my previous poison aint lethal enough to get into your veins but now need to get new TV for another house, so guess gona kena poison soon again liao :S |
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Dec 23 2009, 05:03 PM
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guys,
just to check what are the model number for both the sharp aquos given free for balance transfer of credit under Ambank. |
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Dec 24 2009, 11:37 AM
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hei thr
my family plan to buy LCD TV for new house now aiming for Sony W550 series(46") n found RM6.9k the cheapest with free blu ray player is it worth? any other recomendation? |
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Dec 24 2009, 07:26 PM
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i was told by a salesman that plasma is fading, famous manufactures such as pioneer is taking out the plasma tv off the shelve, is that true? they said LCD and LED is more in demand now.
I initially plan to get the plasma panasonic S10, but the suggest me to get the LCD instead. I know the differences, pros and cons between LCD, but is it true that LCD is more in demand nowadays? |
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Dec 24 2009, 08:48 PM
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 24 2009, 07:26 PM) i was told by a salesman that plasma is fading, famous manufactures such as pioneer is taking out the plasma tv off the shelve, is that true? they said LCD and LED is more in demand now. without retail-level support, i believe what you say about LCDs getting more in demand to be true. you first paragraph is prove of that I initially plan to get the plasma panasonic S10, but the suggest me to get the LCD instead. I know the differences, pros and cons between LCD, but is it true that LCD is more in demand nowadays? |
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Dec 25 2009, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 24 2009, 07:26 PM) i was told by a salesman that plasma is fading, famous manufactures such as pioneer is taking out the plasma tv off the shelve, is that true? they said LCD and LED is more in demand now. why so concern about which type sells more?.. just go with which one you think is right for you since you say you already know both pros and cons... unless you are the Herd mentality type... go with the flow.. I initially plan to get the plasma panasonic S10, but the suggest me to get the LCD instead. I know the differences, pros and cons between LCD, but is it true that LCD is more in demand nowadays? |
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Dec 31 2009, 09:06 AM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2009, 09:57 AM) why so concern about which type sells more?.. just go with which one you think is right for you since you say you already know both pros and cons... unless you are the Herd mentality type... go with the flow.. He wanna buy for investment la.... so checking the 'demand' first. |
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Dec 31 2009, 10:30 AM
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last week went to senq and observed all the 42inch panasonic plasma.. shocking as all the series x, s and g has glare.. the Ar filter on s and g nothing much different than x with no Ar filter.. does anyone notice the different in the panel..
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Dec 31 2009, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(jolipoli81 @ Dec 24 2009, 07:26 PM) i was told by a salesman that plasma is fading, famous manufactures such as pioneer is taking out the plasma tv off the shelve, is that true? they said LCD and LED is more in demand now. Yes, unfortunately it is true.I initially plan to get the plasma panasonic S10, but the suggest me to get the LCD instead. I know the differences, pros and cons between LCD, but is it true that LCD is more in demand nowadays? LCD panel manufacturers marketing strategy has done its job well. Better margins for shops, better incentives to sell. As well as a good deal of "burn in" marketing has made LCD more popular. Most people looking to upgrade that 29in CRT moved to 32in or 37in LCDs. However, this year saw a slight shift as Panasonic dropped prices of the 42in and 50in entry level plasmas. The cost of manufacturing has also dropped. Armed with >3 Lumens/Watt technology they became brighter and could compete with the LCDs in teh showroom environments. This year, nothing new came out of the LCD camp, LED backlighting that came last year saw some hype over edge lighting but it did not improve anything too much, slightly better black levels and the main improvements were in thickness. Next year, Panasonic (which is the pushing hard on plasma) is pushing 3D tech and no real news of 5Lumens/Watt implementation. 5Lumens/Watt I believe is the real deal for plasmas to pull thru. However, with Pioneer pulling out of the market, not sure if Panny will soldier on in progress. They have licensed the Kuro patents from Pioneer and we shd see them in full force in 2011 if they start working on them instead of 3D. Anyway, end the end, there will be something that gives. Let's see. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Dec 31 2009, 10:38 AM) Yes, unfortunately it is true. I hope to c plasma stays in the market...already contemplating to get 1 for my bedroomLCD panel manufacturers marketing strategy has done its job well. Better margins for shops, better incentives to sell. As well as a good deal of "burn in" marketing has made LCD more popular. Most people looking to upgrade that 29in CRT moved to 32in or 37in LCDs. However, this year saw a slight shift as Panasonic dropped prices of the 42in and 50in entry level plasmas. The cost of manufacturing has also dropped. Armed with >3 Lumens/Watt technology they became brighter and could compete with the LCDs in teh showroom environments. This year, nothing new came out of the LCD camp, LED backlighting that came last year saw some hype over edge lighting but it did not improve anything too much, slightly better black levels and the main improvements were in thickness. Next year, Panasonic (which is the pushing hard on plasma) is pushing 3D tech and no real news of 5Lumens/Watt implementation. 5Lumens/Watt I believe is the real deal for plasmas to pull thru. However, with Pioneer pulling out of the market, not sure if Panny will soldier on in progress. They have licensed the Kuro patents from Pioneer and we shd see them in full force in 2011 if they start working on them instead of 3D. Anyway, end the end, there will be something that gives. Let's see. |
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Jan 1 2010, 03:56 PM
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i dunno it is right place to ask..im nOOb
have u seen this item or use this item ? Philips-Screen Cleening LCD & Plasma my question - its really work ? no damage at ur screen lcd @ plasma ? thanz ur advice |
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Jan 1 2010, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Dec 31 2009, 10:38 AM) Next year, Panasonic (which is the pushing hard on plasma) is pushing 3D tech and no real news of 5Lumens/Watt implementation. 5Lumens/Watt I believe is the real deal for plasmas to pull thru. However, with Pioneer pulling out of the market, not sure if Panny will soldier on in progress. They have licensed the Kuro patents from Pioneer and we shd see them in full force in 2011 if they start working on them instead of 3D. they just completed their latest plasma plant.. Anyway, end the end, there will be something that gives. Let's see. Panasonic has just completed its largest and third plasma plant in Amagasaki which will now be able to produce new plasma displays and LCD panels to help its cause. The plant will begin commercial manufacturing in January 2010 with a target of 120,000 42” panels. Panasonic Completes Largest Plasma Plant Panasonic has completed its largest plant for producing plasma TV screens. The plant is the company's third plant in Amagasaki and can produce plasma TV screens up to 150-inches. The plant can also make nine 50-inch sets out of the same chunk of glass that goes into a single 150-inch screen. The process technology used in the new plant allows the production of screens designed to reduce afterglow and improve 3D performance. |
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Jan 1 2010, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 1 2010, 04:07 PM) they just completed their latest plasma plant.. Yeah, I know they will definately do their best, however, it irks me that they are pushing so much into 3D and not making some corrections to their display to make it better. There are some known technical problems that they need to fix. Not having a set with greyscale adjustments are just not acceptable. Also they have problems with rising black levels with time that needs quick fixing...Panasonic has just completed its largest and third plasma plant in Amagasaki which will now be able to produce new plasma displays and LCD panels to help its cause. The plant will begin commercial manufacturing in January 2010 with a target of 120,000 42” panels. Panasonic Completes Largest Plasma Plant Panasonic has completed its largest plant for producing plasma TV screens. The plant is the company's third plant in Amagasaki and can produce plasma TV screens up to 150-inches. The plant can also make nine 50-inch sets out of the same chunk of glass that goes into a single 150-inch screen. The process technology used in the new plant allows the production of screens designed to reduce afterglow and improve 3D performance. |
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Jan 1 2010, 05:15 PM
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improving on PQ alone no use, see what good that did to Pionner..
they need to market more bells and whistles like 3D or else having the best TV on the planet (compared to lousy LCD) also will not help plasma's sinking ship.. |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 25 2009, 09:57 AM) why so concern about which type sells more?.. just go with which one you think is right for you since you say you already know both pros and cons... unless you are the Herd mentality type... go with the flow.. hi.. thought pioneer withdraw plasma coz it cost them so much to make.. it is tough fighting against the cheaper lcd/led/oled.. once read pioneer will come into the led/oled category.. thus its decisioin to withdraw.. guess have to see by yourself the pioneer kuro's plasma against the lcd/led/oled tv out there before you decide which is better.. |
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Only if I have the moolah
, I'll have join you as KRP-500 ownerThis post has been edited by htkaki: Jan 1 2010, 05:27 PM |
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 1 2010, 05:15 PM) improving on PQ alone no use, see what good that did to Pionner.. more $ in marketing means higher price, not necessarily higher quality.. sometimes, its good that good quality product are on the quiet but priced right.. good for people who do their research.. they need to market more bells and whistles like 3D or else having the best TV on the planet (compared to lousy LCD) also will not help plasma's sinking ship.. but i do agree, its a shame to lose pioneer's in the plasmaTV industry..Added on January 1, 2010, 5:31 pm QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 1 2010, 05:25 PM) Only if I have the moolah seriously got an orgasm (can i say this word here?) when i first saw the pic come out of my kuro today.. , I'll have join you as KRP-500 owner This post has been edited by saprozeldo: Jan 1 2010, 05:31 PM |
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QUOTE(saprozeldo @ Jan 1 2010, 05:29 PM) more $ in marketing means higher price, not necessarily higher quality.. sometimes, its good that good quality product are on the quiet but priced right.. good for people who do their research.. Fuyoh, got your kuro today? How much you got it? but i do agree, its a shame to lose pioneer's in the plasmaTV industry..Added on January 1, 2010, 5:31 pm seriously got an orgasm (can i say this word here?) when i first saw the pic come out of my kuro today.. |
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Jan 1 2010, 05:45 PM
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Jan 1 2010, 05:25 PM) Only if I have the moolah u ask mpyw to bring in for you lor.. only 6k during sale.. (in US) , I'll have join you as KRP-500 owner |
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Jan 1 2010, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(saprozeldo @ Jan 1 2010, 05:29 PM) more $ in marketing means higher price, not necessarily higher quality.. sometimes, its good that good quality product are on the quiet but priced right.. good for people who do their research.. KRP-500M or KRP-500A? but i do agree, its a shame to lose pioneer's in the plasmaTV industry..Added on January 1, 2010, 5:31 pm seriously got an orgasm (can i say this word here?) when i first saw the pic come out of my kuro today.. If u have the M, then put it in Pure mode and Colour Space 2. That shd give u a very accurate picture. Keep contrast for starters around 25, slowly crank it up. If the A, then there is no pure mode. U shd get it calibrated as the 500 series with ISFccc is pretty darn good. |
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Jan 1 2010, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 1 2010, 05:15 PM) improving on PQ alone no use, see what good that did to Pionner.. True, Quality alone does not sell a product these days.they need to market more bells and whistles like 3D or else having the best TV on the planet (compared to lousy LCD) also will not help plasma's sinking ship.. I agree. The future for plasma is really in 5Lumens/Watt and 10 Lumens/Watt. Coupled with the lower cost of manufacturing, it will revive plasma sales. Samsung and LG are still in the market for plasma for this reason alone. |
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Jan 1 2010, 05:55 PM
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i got a budget around 3k. which plasma to get ya. 40 in above. for astro and movies.
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 1 2010, 05:44 PM) Fuyoh, got your kuro today? How much you got it? around 12k.. 3 places offered around that price.. location in ss2, desaparkcity & kompleks desa.. went with kompleks desa as their price was the lowest and they included installation (had to remove my 42" and adjust the stand and put in the kuro) and a free hdmi cable.. funny.. from my reviews here in LYN, desaHT had a questionable reputation.. quite a bit negative review.. myself was let down by their sales service in DesaHT lowyat.. BUT was lucky met this good sales guy in Mr Chin.. end up buying 2 tacima & 2 JVC bluray player from him.. didnt really need it but felt he gave me a really good deal.. also, first time when morning delivery, insisted they deliver by 11am & the truck was in front of my door at 10.45am.. recommended to deal with this guy.. and oh ya.. he offered a good deal for 508XG oso.. PM me if you wanna know.. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 1 2010, 05:46 PM) KRP-500M or KRP-500A? yeah, noticed that.. HOWEVER, non of the outlets i've been to carry the krp500m.. only have the krp500a.. all my sifus here oredi told me that i shd consult you to calibrate & fine-tune the kuro.. can we arrange for a date soon? If u have the M, then put it in Pure mode and Colour Space 2. That shd give u a very accurate picture. Keep contrast for starters around 25, slowly crank it up. If the A, then there is no pure mode. U shd get it calibrated as the 500 series with ISFccc is pretty darn good. how much for your specialist advise? |
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QUOTE(saprozeldo @ Jan 1 2010, 07:27 PM) yeah, noticed that.. HOWEVER, non of the outlets i've been to carry the krp500m.. only have the krp500a.. all my sifus here oredi told me that i shd consult you to calibrate & fine-tune the kuro.. can we arrange for a date soon? PM me and we can discuss. how much for your specialist advise?The Asian editions (same panels just firmware) KRP -A do not have the Pure modes. Which is a shame. Pure is very accurate. However, if u calibrate the ISFccc modes, it brings out the best of the panels. The M editions are the the same the world over. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jan 1 2010, 07:46 PM |
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QUOTE(saprozeldo @ Jan 1 2010, 07:24 PM) around 12k.. 3 places offered around that price.. location in ss2, desaparkcity & kompleks desa.. went with kompleks desa as their price was the lowest and they included installation (had to remove my 42" and adjust the stand and put in the kuro) and a free hdmi cable.. I dealt with Chin once when I got my first skydragon from DesaHT. funny.. from my reviews here in LYN, desaHT had a questionable reputation.. quite a bit negative review.. myself was let down by their sales service in DesaHT lowyat.. BUT was lucky met this good sales guy in Mr Chin.. end up buying 2 tacima & 2 JVC bluray player from him.. didnt really need it but felt he gave me a really good deal.. also, first time when morning delivery, insisted they deliver by 11am & the truck was in front of my door at 10.45am.. recommended to deal with this guy.. and oh ya.. he offered a good deal for 508XG oso.. PM me if you wanna know.. The boss is able to give lower offer if you manage to catch him. 508XG is hd-ready...dun want la Pay you and your new tv a visit when I return your audyssey mic. |
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Jan 1 2010, 08:00 PM) I dealt with Chin once when I got my first skydragon from DesaHT. dun say until so bad la.. HD-ready means can accept HD signal (irrespective of resolution) even could be lower than 720p HD panel.. The boss is able to give lower offer if you manage to catch him. 508XG is hd-ready...dun want la Pay you and your new tv a visit when I return your audyssey mic. 508XG is 1366x768.. so slightly better than 720p.. but still 1 million pixel less than a proper 1080p.. |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 1 2010, 05:48 PM) True, Quality alone does not sell a product these days. I guess quality comes at a price and the mass market is looking at lower priced items.Wanna ask, since Pioneer has pulled out of TV panels now, all the TVs being sold now are remaining stock? I guess Pioneer would still offer warranty support until the term expires. |
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 1 2010, 10:21 PM) I guess quality comes at a price and the mass market is looking at lower priced items. Yes, all displays sold now are remaining stock only. My set came with a 5 yr warranty. Pioneer said that they guarantee parts for at least 7-10yrs. But u never know.Wanna ask, since Pioneer has pulled out of TV panels now, all the TVs being sold now are remaining stock? I guess Pioneer would still offer warranty support until the term expires. |
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Jan 1 2010, 10:26 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 1 2010, 10:23 PM) Yes, all displays sold now are remaining stock only. My set came with a 5 yr warranty. Pioneer said that they guarantee parts for at least 7-10yrs. But u never know. Wow, the last of a dying breed. I wonder if these Kuro plasmas will become collectibles? Sure is sad seeing Pioneer exit this market... |
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Jan 1 2010, 10:31 PM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 1 2010, 10:26 PM) Wow, the last of a dying breed. I wonder if these Kuro plasmas will become collectibles? at that time, that's like saying you want to collect 70s era philips Wooden frame TV or not? Sure is sad seeing Pioneer exit this market... |
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Jan 1 2010, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Jan 1 2010, 10:26 PM) Wow, the last of a dying breed. I wonder if these Kuro plasmas will become collectibles? ya boss.. thats what i thought oso.. frankly been wishing of a kuro since i saw mypw's 508xg.. now that pioneer confirmed their exit, had to get mine before stock is finished.. but then again, dont think there's many out there like me.. so chances of kuro becoming a collectible is very unlikely.. possible but unlikely.. (note: yet i've always wondered why you never see a user used 2nd hand kuro in the market, only openbox/display set only.. i know i'll never sell my kuro..) Sure is sad seeing Pioneer exit this market...Added on January 1, 2010, 10:53 pm QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 1 2010, 10:31 PM) at that time, that's like saying you want to collect 70s era philips Wooden frame TV or not? wah, that one in the 80s oredi a collectible wor.. ppl use to make aquarium.. This post has been edited by saprozeldo: Jan 1 2010, 10:53 PM |
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Jan 1 2010, 11:07 PM
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haha! can make aquarium?
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Jan 2 2010, 02:35 AM
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is there any full HD lcd tv between 2.5k to 3.0k
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Jan 6 2010, 09:25 AM
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does anyone know of any current LCD TV in the market with in-built DVB-T tuner? if so, would greatly appreciate it if you could share with us their model nos...
many thanks... |
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Jan 6 2010, 09:31 AM
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QUOTE(alamdamai1 @ Jan 6 2010, 09:25 AM) does anyone know of any current LCD TV in the market with in-built DVB-T tuner? if so, would greatly appreciate it if you could share with us their model nos... I doubt any are available in Malaysia. U might want to try Spore as some of the newer models there are being released with DVB-T tuners.many thanks... |
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Jan 6 2010, 09:35 AM
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ehhh..not really, i've did earlier googled and found the below result but i don't really like Samsung brand...
http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-05D...ch-LA32B450.htm |
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Jan 6 2010, 09:50 AM
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QUOTE(alamdamai1 @ Jan 6 2010, 09:35 AM) ehhh..not really, i've did earlier googled and found the below result but i don't really like Samsung brand... Is this a Samsung Malaysia set? As far as I know, the authorities in Malaysia do not allow sets with DVB-T tuners to be sold as yet and they have not been approved. http://www.lelong.com.my/Auc/List/2009-05D...ch-LA32B450.htm |
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Jan 6 2010, 09:59 AM
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hmmmm....u r rite....could not find this model in Samsung M'sia website..hence, 'swimming water' goods...
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Jan 6 2010, 10:02 AM
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The Pioneer KRP-500A is it the 9th generation plasma display TV? Do they sell different models in the North American and European markets?
Added on January 6, 2010, 11:38 amPanasonic adds Skype support to their 2010 Viera TVs: CES 2010: Panasonic adds Skype to 2010 Viera TVs This post has been edited by engseng: Jan 6 2010, 11:38 AM |
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QUOTE(engseng @ Jan 6 2010, 10:02 AM) The Pioneer KRP-500A is it the 9th generation plasma display TV? Do they sell different models in the North American and European markets? KRP-500A is not sold in NA. It is sold in Europe. The panel is the same as the European counterpart, however the firmware is different. Main differences are the MediaConsole is not DVB-T compliant and there is no "Pure" mode.Added on January 6, 2010, 11:38 amPanasonic adds Skype support to their 2010 Viera TVs: CES 2010: Panasonic adds Skype to 2010 Viera TVs The KRP-500M/600M are the same as the European models, the firmware included. KRP-500/600M are slightly different than the US models thru firmware that in the case of NA there is no way to enable ISFccc unless u use a customized patched firmware. Asian regions and European regions firmwares allow ISFccc without the patch. |
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Jan 6 2010, 12:54 PM
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i've seen comments that plasma gives more natural color vs LCD. if one do proper color calibration on LCD tv, provided the tv set got CMS for tweaking, can I say the color reproduction of the LCD would be close to what the movie Director intended?
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Jan 6 2010, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 6 2010, 12:54 PM) i've seen comments that plasma gives more natural color vs LCD. if one do proper color calibration on LCD tv, provided the tv set got CMS for tweaking, can I say the color reproduction of the LCD would be close to what the movie Director intended? I don't think it can in 100% of the time. for example, if you put a White Letter or word in a black background.. the black still looks like there is a layer of white Wax or white backlight seeping thro the panel... also LCD backlight from CCFL and white LED doesn't reproduce 100% of the NTSC color gamut.. so you still can't produce 100% of what you should be getting.. |
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Jan 6 2010, 01:17 PM
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QUOTE(gocitygo @ Jan 6 2010, 12:54 PM) i've seen comments that plasma gives more natural color vs LCD. if one do proper color calibration on LCD tv, provided the tv set got CMS for tweaking, can I say the color reproduction of the LCD would be close to what the movie Director intended? Yes, if the LCD is indeed equipped with a CMS that works, u can get pretty close. However, the black levels would not be there as yet. However, the motion sometimes would look different. Also because the refresh mechanisms are different, it might not look as natural as a projector or plasma.Sony and Samsung LCDs (LED backlit, local dimming) calibrate pretty well for LCDs. Sharp is more difficult. Remember, greyscale is also an important element in giving the correct tones. Also gamma as well. |
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Jan 6 2010, 01:43 PM
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anfield, can you comment on resolution of moving picture..
I think LCD will be of lower resolution if motion interpolation kicks in... |
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Jan 6 2010, 01:47 PM
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hie guys.....just bought sharp 32A37M yesterday....when i tested PES 2010 on my ps3 and i notice the ghosting is quite bad...and the color not as nice compared to my samsung 22" lcd monitor i was using previously......anyway how to overcome it? or any website i can refer to tune the tv?
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Jan 6 2010, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 6 2010, 01:43 PM) anfield, can you comment on resolution of moving picture.. Yup. Motion Resolution is much lower on LCD than on Plasmas. I believe the last 2 gens Pannys could already resolve 1080 of motion resolution. Even the older gens of plasmas were at least capable of 800+. The 3 yr old Kuro could process ~ 1000 while the last Gen before phase out could do 1080. Most LCDs without their "motion engines, ie Motion Plus, MotionFlow, PixelPlus (all processing that allows 200Hz, 240Hz, 100Hz) average at about 300 lines. When the engines are activated they resolve 1080 however, with the engines come artifacts and problems. On the ones that have only 100Hz, with 100Hz enabled the motion resolution probably improves to 600 ~ 700.I think LCD will be of lower resolution if motion interpolation kicks in... However, thats how the technology works. Thats why watching fast moving action sometimes shows some problems on LCDs. |
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Jan 6 2010, 05:52 PM
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Hi Anfield, thanks for the info.
Have you calibrated Toshiba ZV series LCD TV before? How do you find this TV? |
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Jan 7 2010, 08:41 AM
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Panasonic 2010 TV line up:
http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs...62010102307903 5 million:1 native contast... This post has been edited by ICDeadPeople: Jan 7 2010, 08:47 AM |
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Jan 7 2010, 10:21 AM
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CES 2010: Panasonic VIERA CAST HDTV can do Skype video calls
January 6th, 2010  This week at the CES, Panasonic and Skype will be displaying their newest VIERA CAST HDTV that offers a lot of Skype goodness. The digital TV is loaded with the Skype client for video conferencing via the Internet, offering the standard Skype fetures like free video calls, landline and mobile phone calls at low rates, voicemail, and inbound calls using an online number. The VIERA CAST uses a Panasonic camera for up to 720p high definition video calls but unfortunately, is sold separately. It comes equipped with a microphone that can efficiently pick up sounds even from afar. No word on price and availability as usual. http://techfever.net/2010/01/06/ces-2010-p...pe-video-calls/ This post has been edited by allic: Jan 7 2010, 10:22 AM |
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Jan 7 2010, 10:33 AM
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Slow slow wait those will come to MY lah...In CES they already announce 3 different range of 3D HDTVs....how many do U think they will bring in here?
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Jan 7 2010, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 7 2010, 10:33 AM) Slow slow wait those will come to MY lah...In CES they already announce 3 different range of 3D HDTVs....how many do U think they will bring in here? Even if they bringing in 3D tv, I dont think we have any 3D content to use it with. Still a long way to go..... |
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Jan 7 2010, 11:06 AM
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Yes, we barely have the 1080p broadcast... What more the 1080p 3D programmes...
Added on January 7, 2010, 11:08 amThe 2010 plasma TVs on Panasonic's website look like they have a matte screen? This post has been edited by engseng: Jan 7 2010, 11:08 AM |
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Jan 7 2010, 11:10 AM
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whats the website?
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Jan 7 2010, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 7 2010, 11:10 AM) whats the website? Panasonic 2010 LineupSee link. The good news, ISFccc for the V series. 3D available only for V series as well. Confirmation of employing some Kuro technology is there. There will be deeper blacks. Not Kuro like yet, but almost there.... The bad news, no news of ISFccc for the X, S and G series. THX avail on G series. Looks like different AR on the S and X series. Only G series onwards seems to be adopting a bit of Kuro tech. Lets see some more results. Edit : X series replaced with U series... This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jan 7 2010, 11:56 AM |
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Jan 7 2010, 12:00 PM
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at the end of the day it's still price. even if got kuro tech, at what price?
also I wonder P42S2 series 1080p 42inch would be below 3k? (as was the S10 model in 2009) |
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Jan 7 2010, 12:06 PM
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Thanks bro Anfieldude...the S2 now has NeoPDP, or is that only for US market only like S10?
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Jan 7 2010, 12:09 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 7 2010, 12:00 PM) at the end of the day it's still price. even if got kuro tech, at what price? I believe the incorporation of the Kuro tech comes at a price. They are paying for the the patents obtained from Pioneer. That's why it is going into the higher end models, where the price is normally higher and the audience gives a hoot. Just take a look at the V and Z series 2009 prices, even at end of life, they were pretty high. also I wonder P42S2 series 1080p 42inch would be below 3k? (as was the S10 model in 2009) Me, I just hope the give more accurate HD colour gamut. They really are pretty bad on this on all sets except the V and Z in 2009. It is no excuse not to have a better HD colour space when the Sammys and LGs can do it better. This if u do not want to give a working CMS. |
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Jan 7 2010, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Jan 7 2010, 12:06 PM) Thanks bro Anfieldude...the S2 now has NeoPDP, or is that only for US market only like S10? chewkl,I suspect they will not give the Asian ones NeoPDP, just the better AR. Same strategy as 2009. |
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Jan 7 2010, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 7 2010, 12:09 PM) Me, I just hope the give more accurate HD colour gamut. They really are pretty bad on this on all sets except the V and Z in 2009. It is no excuse not to have a better HD colour space when the Sammys and LGs can do it better. This if u do not want to give a working CMS. of course if compare plasma to plasma, then working CMS would be advantage.. This post has been edited by ar188: Jan 7 2010, 12:23 PM |
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 7 2010, 12:10 PM) chewkl, hehe, sifu really have an insight on japanese business mindset.I suspect they will not give the Asian ones NeoPDP, just the better AR. Same strategy as 2009. |
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Jan 8 2010, 11:05 PM
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Jan 10 2010, 02:42 PM
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hi to all...i would like your opinion on the Panasonic Viera TH-L37X15K.
just using it to watch Astro,DVD and normal tv and if any better recommendation my budget is below 2.5k. thanks. owh...heard Astro is going HD around Mei or June and they charge rm20 for that...true? This post has been edited by cd928: Jan 10 2010, 02:47 PM |
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Jan 10 2010, 11:00 PM
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i am looking at the Samsung p63fp, anybody here can give some 2cent on this model?
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Jan 10 2010, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(cd928 @ Jan 10 2010, 02:42 PM) owh...heard Astro is going HD around Mei or June and they charge rm20 for that...true? where have you been? it's already in HD |
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Jan 12 2010, 10:11 AM
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i have an extra acer h233h monitor and im planning to use it with astro byond hd decoder..
anyone here with similar setup? is the monitor good enough? i also would be connecting 2 -3 other hdmi equipment (eos 7d, wdtv, laptop) i'm quite lost in searching the most economical av receiver available in kl.. any suggestions? |
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Jan 12 2010, 05:07 PM
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ok i need your expert opinion regarding this matter ...
my astro decoder goes out of use last week (power problem or something) and after careful deliberation the most low cost option is to upgrade to Astro b.yond to get new decoder. (planning to do it for the world cup anyway) now, for that to happen, there is this small matter of buying a new LCD tv..... again, i was planning to do it anyway but due to my decoder problem, its becoming a lil ad hoc.. so need all your expert opinion for me to decide which tv to buy here is my requirement :- 1. SIZE : 37/40" would be nice but due to low budget would rather pick the best 32" 2. PICTURE : ideally should be 1080p FHD. but for 32" 780p would be fine. 3. HDMI : min 3 port (astro, ps3, ht) 4. USE : sports viewing (Astro SUPERSPORT HD and ps3 WE2010) 5. FREQUENCY : would be nice to get 100hz. 6. BUDGET : RM2.5k (would jump to 2.8 if there are good offer for relevant jump of quality). now i really2 need your help to discuss regarding below :- 1. MODEL? : which brand/model to buy 2. WHERE? : where the best place with offer to buy it ? 3. COST? : how much does it cost there ? 4. WHEN ? : this weekend? before/during/after CNY? one day before world cup? now i would like to in advance for your help. please excuse my spoon feeding requirement due to the ad hocness of the situation..my hard earned i month salary and little-details-pleasure of my life for the next 5 years depends on this decision This post has been edited by aressandro10: Jan 12 2010, 05:14 PM |
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Jan 13 2010, 07:25 AM
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PANASONIC-TH-L32C10K2 - RM 1399
TOSHIBA-32AV600 - RM 1380.00 Which one should i choose? |
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Jan 13 2010, 09:23 AM
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Viera C10!
2 layer panel.. hard surface on the outside. nice colours.. not as bright as samsung though. |
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Jan 15 2010, 07:00 PM
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hey,
need some input....i have been planning to get a panny P50X10. since it's gonna be discontinued soon...but i NEED a tv for my feature wall in my new home. Shall I wait for newer version or just get P50X10? I don need a FHD tv since it's just for general viewing. everyday astro and dvds. |
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Jan 12 2010, 05:07 PM) ok i need your expert opinion regarding this matter ... go to seng heng laa..they got promotion for toshiba and samsung lcd tv full hd for just 2.8k i guess..both 37inch... then u can add some more for 5 years warrantymy astro decoder goes out of use last week (power problem or something) and after careful deliberation the most low cost option is to upgrade to Astro b.yond to get new decoder. (planning to do it for the world cup anyway) now, for that to happen, there is this small matter of buying a new LCD tv..... again, i was planning to do it anyway but due to my decoder problem, its becoming a lil ad hoc.. so need all your expert opinion for me to decide which tv to buy here is my requirement :- 1. SIZE : 37/40" would be nice but due to low budget would rather pick the best 32" 2. PICTURE : ideally should be 1080p FHD. but for 32" 780p would be fine. 3. HDMI : min 3 port (astro, ps3, ht) 4. USE : sports viewing (Astro SUPERSPORT HD and ps3 WE2010) 5. FREQUENCY : would be nice to get 100hz. 6. BUDGET : RM2.5k (would jump to 2.8 if there are good offer for relevant jump of quality). now i really2 need your help to discuss regarding below :- 1. MODEL? : which brand/model to buy 2. WHERE? : where the best place with offer to buy it ? 3. COST? : how much does it cost there ? 4. WHEN ? : this weekend? before/during/after CNY? one day before world cup? now i would like to in advance for your help. please excuse my spoon feeding requirement due to the ad hocness of the situation..my hard earned i month salary and little-details-pleasure of my life for the next 5 years depends on this decision |
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Jan 17 2010, 12:48 AM
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May I know, who is the expert in LCD tv? I need to ask him/her a question about LCD tv. Thanx!
Added on January 17, 2010, 3:09 amOk, need some explanation between this 3 model. Panny LCD, model: S10K, S18K and LZ80MK. What are their different? This post has been edited by lordnirrajim: Jan 17 2010, 03:09 AM |
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Jan 17 2010, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(lordnirrajim @ Jan 17 2010, 12:48 AM) May I know, who is the expert in LCD tv? I need to ask him/her a question about LCD tv. Thanx! LZ80 is an antique model already.Added on January 17, 2010, 3:09 amOk, need some explanation between this 3 model. Panny LCD, model: S10K, S18K and LZ80MK. What are their different? S18 vs S10 is the SD card reader. S18 got extra feature. check the panalife magazine. full information inside. |
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Jan 19 2010, 07:43 AM
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Hi folks - what do you guys think of this:-
KLV-32EX300A Limited Edition BRAVIA LCD TV + DAV-TZ200 DVD Home Theatre System with FREE HDMI Cable (included in the set) @ RM2,288 For that same amount of money, do you think I can actually get a 37" HD Ready LCD + decent DVD Home Theatre System from other brands? Appreciate any advice! cheers... |
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Jan 19 2010, 02:49 PM
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Finally, Panasonic USA has reveal the details for S2 model of Plasma in Panasonic USA website.
But still not news for other models.Unfortunately, price for S2 still not yet reveal. Need to check with dealers. Here is the specification for 42" S2 and also 42" S1 for comparison: Listed Price N/A / $999.95 Model Type Plasma / Plasma Series S2 / S1 Model Year 2010 / 2009 VIDEO . Screen Size 42" Class (41.6" diagonal) / 42" Class (41.6" diagonal) Contrast Ratio Native: 2,000,000:1 / Native: 40,000:1 ; Dynamic: Infinite Black/Over 2,000,000:1 Aspect Ratio 16:9 / 16:9 Native Resolution (Number of Pixels) 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080) / 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080) Moving Picture Resolution 1080 lines / 1080 lines Shades of Gradation 6,144 equivalent / 6,144 equivalent HDTV Display Capability (1080p, 1080i, 720p) Yes / Yes EDTV Display Capability (480p) Yes / Yes Aspect Control Normal, Just, Zoom, Full, H-fill / Normal, Just, Zoom, Full, H-fill AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter Yes / New AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter 600Hz Sub-field Drive Yes / Yes 24p Playback(2:3) Yes / Yes Deep Color Yes / Yes x.v.Color Yes / No 3D Color Management Yes / No Motion Pattern Noise Reduction Yes / Yes AUDIO . Speakers Full-range x 2 (L, R) / Full-range x 2 (L, R) Number of Speakers 2 / 2 Audio Output 20 W ( 10% THD ) / 20 W ( 10% THD ); (6 ohms, 150 Hz - 16 kHz) Surround Sound Yes / Yes INPUTS & JACKS . Integrated ATSC Tuner Yes / Yes VIERA Image Viewer™ Y (JPEG playback) / SD Memory Card Slot (SDHC Compatible) Y (JPEG playback) HDMI Input 3 (1 side) / 3 (1 side) Composite Video Input 2 (1 side) / 2 (1 side) Audio Input (for Video) 2 (1 side) / 2 (1 side) Component Video Inputs (Y, PB, PR) 2 / 2 Audio Input (for Component Video) 2 / 2 Digital Audio Output 1 / 1 CONVENIENCE . VIERA Link™ Yes / Yes VIERA® Tools Yes / Yes Game Mode Yes / Yes Clean Touch Bezel Yes / N/A Pixel Orbiter (Anti-Image Retention) Yes / Yes Built-In Closed Caption Decoder Yes / Yes Off - Timers Yes / Timers Yes GENERAL . Power Supply AC 120 V, 60Hz / AC 120 V, 60Hz Rated Power Consumption 298 W / 485 W Standby Power Consumption 0.3 W / 0.3 W Energy Star Yes / Yes Receiving System ATSC/QAM/NTSC / ATSC/QAM/NTSC Operating Temperature 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C) / 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C) Safety Standard UL6500/C-UL / UL6500/C-UL Optional Wall-mounting Bracket TY-WK4P1RW / TY-WK4P1RW SPECIFICATIONS . Dimensions (H x W x D) with Stand 27.8" x 40.6" x 12.1" / 28.0" x 40.6" x 12.9" Dimensions (H x W x D) without Stand 26.1" x 40.6" x 3.7" / 26.1" x 40.6" x 4.2" Weight (lbs.) w/Stand 55.1 lbs. / 59.6 lbs Weight (lbs.) without Stand 50.7 lbs. / 57.4 lbs Carton Dimensions 30.2" x 45.6" x 11.2" / 30.4" x 45.6" x 11.2" Gross Weight [lbs (kg)] 70.5 lbs. / 72.8 lbs. (33.0 kg) Trilingual Menu English/Spanish/French HDMI Input-Support Feature Audio Return Channel (Input 1) Analog Audio Input ( for HDMI/DVI) Yes / Yes Malaysia version of S1 (S10K) is "inferior" compared to US S1. This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 19 2010, 02:56 PM |
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a proud owner of the LG 32LH2 series LCD TV
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Jan 21 2010, 10:57 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 19 2010, 02:49 PM) Finally, Panasonic USA has reveal the details for S2 model of Plasma in Panasonic USA website. Malaysia S1/US S1 But still not news for other models.Unfortunately, price for S2 still not yet reveal. Need to check with dealers. Here is the specification for 42" S2 and also 42" S1 for comparison: Listed Price N/A / $999.95 Model Type Plasma / Plasma Series S2 / S1 Model Year 2010 / 2009 VIDEO . Screen Size 42" Class (41.6" diagonal) / 42" Class (41.6" diagonal) Contrast Ratio Native: 2,000,000:1 / Native: 40,000:1 ; Dynamic: Infinite Black/Over 2,000,000:1 Aspect Ratio 16:9 / 16:9 Native Resolution (Number of Pixels) 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080) / 2,073,600 (1,920 x 1,080) Moving Picture Resolution 1080 lines / 1080 lines Shades of Gradation 6,144 equivalent / 6,144 equivalent HDTV Display Capability (1080p, 1080i, 720p) Yes / Yes EDTV Display Capability (480p) Yes / Yes Aspect Control Normal, Just, Zoom, Full, H-fill / Normal, Just, Zoom, Full, H-fill AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter Yes / New AR (Anti-Reflective) Filter 600Hz Sub-field Drive Yes / Yes 24p Playback(2:3) Yes / Yes Deep Color Yes / Yes x.v.Color Yes / No 3D Color Management Yes / No Motion Pattern Noise Reduction Yes / Yes AUDIO . Speakers Full-range x 2 (L, R) / Full-range x 2 (L, R) Number of Speakers 2 / 2 Audio Output 20 W ( 10% THD ) / 20 W ( 10% THD ); (6 ohms, 150 Hz - 16 kHz) Surround Sound Yes / Yes INPUTS & JACKS . Integrated ATSC Tuner Yes / Yes VIERA Image Viewer™ Y (JPEG playback) / SD Memory Card Slot (SDHC Compatible) Y (JPEG playback) HDMI Input 3 (1 side) / 3 (1 side) Composite Video Input 2 (1 side) / 2 (1 side) Audio Input (for Video) 2 (1 side) / 2 (1 side) Component Video Inputs (Y, PB, PR) 2 / 2 Audio Input (for Component Video) 2 / 2 Digital Audio Output 1 / 1 CONVENIENCE . VIERA Link™ Yes / Yes VIERA® Tools Yes / Yes Game Mode Yes / Yes Clean Touch Bezel Yes / N/A Pixel Orbiter (Anti-Image Retention) Yes / Yes Built-In Closed Caption Decoder Yes / Yes Off - Timers Yes / Timers Yes GENERAL . Power Supply AC 120 V, 60Hz / AC 120 V, 60Hz Rated Power Consumption 298 W / 485 W Standby Power Consumption 0.3 W / 0.3 W Energy Star Yes / Yes Receiving System ATSC/QAM/NTSC / ATSC/QAM/NTSC Operating Temperature 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C) / 32°F - 104°F (0°C - 40°C) Safety Standard UL6500/C-UL / UL6500/C-UL Optional Wall-mounting Bracket TY-WK4P1RW / TY-WK4P1RW SPECIFICATIONS . Dimensions (H x W x D) with Stand 27.8" x 40.6" x 12.1" / 28.0" x 40.6" x 12.9" Dimensions (H x W x D) without Stand 26.1" x 40.6" x 3.7" / 26.1" x 40.6" x 4.2" Weight (lbs.) w/Stand 55.1 lbs. / 59.6 lbs Weight (lbs.) without Stand 50.7 lbs. / 57.4 lbs Carton Dimensions 30.2" x 45.6" x 11.2" / 30.4" x 45.6" x 11.2" Gross Weight [lbs (kg)] 70.5 lbs. / 72.8 lbs. (33.0 kg) Trilingual Menu English/Spanish/French HDMI Input-Support Feature Audio Return Channel (Input 1) Analog Audio Input ( for HDMI/DVI) Yes / Yes Malaysia version of S1 (S10K) is "inferior" compared to US S1. x.v.Color Yes/No 3D Color Management Yes/No 600Hz Sub-field Drive No/Yes Rated Power Consumption 350w/298w |
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Jan 21 2010, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 21 2010, 10:57 PM) Malaysia S1/US S1 Where you get your info.? Malaysia don't have S1 only S10x.v.Color Yes/No 3D Color Management Yes/No 600Hz Sub-field Drive No/Yes Rated Power Consumption 350w/298w This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 21 2010, 11:01 PM |
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Jan 21 2010, 11:21 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 21 2010, 11:00 PM) Where you get your info.? Malaysia don't have S1 only S10 Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10. Visit http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/productsso...v/plasmatvlcdtv Added on January 22, 2010, 12:42 amMalaysia S1/US S1 600Hz Sub-field Drive No but instead 550Hz/Yes PC Input Yes/No G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panell/G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panel NeoPDP Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10. Malaysian S10 is not that "inferior" to the US S1 When I bought mine on Christmas Day 2009 in PJ, the shop reported it was the last one left. It was selling fast & I think by now there is no more stock left. Bought mine for RM3,050.00. Hope the price for the new Malaysian S2 2010 model will not increase. Thanks This post has been edited by jitbeng: Jan 22 2010, 12:42 AM |
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Jan 22 2010, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 21 2010, 11:21 PM) Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10. Asian version of S1/S10 does not utilize the NeoPDP panel. Contrast ratios are different than US model. It is inferior.Visit http://www.panasonic.com.my/web/productsso...v/plasmatvlcdtv Added on January 22, 2010, 12:42 amMalaysia S1/US S1 600Hz Sub-field Drive No but instead 550Hz/Yes PC Input Yes/No G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panell/G12 Progressive Full-HD Plasma Display Panel NeoPDP Malaysian equivalent of the S1 is the S10. Malaysian S10 is not that "inferior" to the US S1 When I bought mine on Christmas Day 2009 in PJ, the shop reported it was the last one left. It was selling fast & I think by now there is no more stock left. Bought mine for RM3,050.00. Hope the price for the new Malaysian S2 2010 model will not increase. Thanks |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:04 AM
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Malaysian version of S10 already withdrawn from the market. no clear reason why is it withdrawn & not the older X & C series.
However few users of S10 did posted their experience wth screen burn in!! check or search for "Panasonic screen burn" thread |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:11 AM
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Alamak! Another pinned topic? At this rate all postings will be pinned.
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Jan 22 2010, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:04 AM) Malaysian version of S10 already withdrawn from the market. no clear reason why is it withdrawn & not the older X & C series. I already replied why it is out of stock but somehow, no one seems to want to accept the reason. Not planning to revisit the burn in stuff.However few users of S10 did posted their experience wth screen burn in!! check or search for "Panasonic screen burn" thread What I can say is that each technology has its merits and disadvantages. I have calibrated quite a few plasmas. So far, I have not seen burn in on any of them. Some with only astro viewing. I have a plasma with over 2000hrs on it, my kids watch the playhouse disney channel (bright logo in corner ) and I watch a lot of sports (ESPN logo) with no hint of burn in or irregular wear of pixels. I have a friend who has already notched 1000hrs on a plasma with 95% astro only, also channels with bright logos, but no hint of irregular wear. However,no electronics is 100% foolproof however. There will be problems on any set, any brand any model. If u r worried about IR/burn in, get a LCD. Don't look back. Live with its limitations. Plasma technology like CRT will be prone to IR. It is the way the technology works. However, on newer panels, especially after initial phospor wear, it is less of a concern |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:32 AM
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for me, use CRT for so long also no burn in.. how come now so concerned??
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Jan 22 2010, 09:39 AM
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For the Luv..
Getting fed-up seeing lotsa plasma/LCD recommendation so I choose the general & the most version one to be pinned @anfieldude...The reason of rplacing wth newer model doesn't make sense mah when the older X & C series still in the market Must be something cooking there.. QUOTE(Boon3 @ Jan 22 2010, 09:11 AM) Alamak! Another pinned topic? At this rate all postings will be pinned. |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:39 AM) For the Luv.. The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP. Getting fed-up seeing lotsa plasma/LCD recommendation so I choose the general & the most version one to be pinned @anfieldude...The reason of rplacing wth newer model doesn't make sense mah when the older X & C series still in the market Must be something cooking there.. The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release. The V and the Z series are worldwide release. There is nothing sinister or conspiracy theory on this. Also production for 2010 models starts in Q4 as testing and sampling for various goverment agencies around the world is submitted usually in Q1 2010. Late Q1 and early Q2 u will start seeing the intro of the entry level and the mid entry level. The higher end models are usually released in late Q2/Q3. This enables them to iron out the electronics problems seen on the initial production. This is pretty standard for Panny. Also the Sammys are pretty similar as is LG/Sharp and the rest. |
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Jan 22 2010, 09:59 AM
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Ok now abit of sense haha
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Jan 22 2010, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(stimix @ Jan 22 2010, 09:59 AM) Ok now abit of sense haha What do you think about this 2 models? Pana Plasma X model Vs Sharp L40A77M model. Which can give better picture quality and performance? Thank you... |
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Jan 22 2010, 02:51 PM
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I'm not an expert-lah. Well if u ask me go for the ohne wth more features, better picture quality by comparing side by side & value for money.
I'm not sure ur LG..Is it Plasma or LCD? For better comparison u should decide 1st whether to choose LCD 1st or Plasma 1st & thereafter comparing LCD Panny Vs LCD LG or Plasma Panny Vs plasma LG Both Plasma & LCD having diff characteristics...For me after owning a LG LCD for past 2 yrs, boring dy & got a big X series Panny...Reason bcos it's bigger than my old LCD, more HDMI, it's no longer flimsy plastic screen but glass & comparatively (My eye only) Almost as good as others & value for money RM2400 nia.. |
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Jan 23 2010, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 22 2010, 09:49 AM) The S10 model that is for Asian market is a different panel. Worldwide S10 was a Full HD NeoPDP panel. It was only in limited production thus after the initial production run, production ceased and moved to NeoPDP. Thanks anfieldud for the above post.The X10 that is sold here, is for worldwide market. The C10 is the same panel as the X10. U do realise that the X is also almost out of stock, except with the big chain stores. This is due the stocking agreement they have with Panny Malaysia. The 720p panels were the most manufactured as it was cheap. Also the AR was pretty dismal. The G10 locally uses the same panel as the G10 worldwide minus the THX, so firmware controlled the region release. The V and the Z series are worldwide release. There is nothing sinister or conspiracy theory on this. Also production for 2010 models starts in Q4 as testing and sampling for various goverment agencies around the world is submitted usually in Q1 2010. Late Q1 and early Q2 u will start seeing the intro of the entry level and the mid entry level. The higher end models are usually released in late Q2/Q3. This enables them to iron out the electronics problems seen on the initial production. This is pretty standard for Panny. Also the Sammys are pretty similar as is LG/Sharp and the rest. "was really going to spring for the panasonic plasma G10 display till I read that the black levels on the generation 12 panels will increase over time. It will rise to level that is twice that when you first switch it on. Probably at the 1000 hour mark or less. Has anyone experienced the black levels are rising ? blacks now looks gray instead of black ? this is a concern of mine. I'm looking for a 40-42" display. I only watch some TV and mostly DVDs. At the size I'm looking at, the Panny's are the only choice for Plasma. But if the rising black levels are not addressed, I'll switch to a Samsung Series 6 LCD panel" Read the above recently in a forum. Please read here also:- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339 Please comment. Thanks in advance. |
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Jan 23 2010, 01:07 AM
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maybe it'should be black levels decresing over time? (means get worse) ??
(if black levels are increasing means the blacks are improving right?) |
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Jan 23 2010, 01:18 AM
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anyone knows how to check hours usage of panny G10?
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Jan 23 2010, 07:11 AM
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QUOTE(jitbeng @ Jan 23 2010, 12:33 AM) Thanks anfieldud for the above post. I have read and talked to some calibrators in the US that the US G series (THX) has a problem where the black levels are increasing with time. It is a firmware bug and it is not clear if it being addressed correctly. The voltage adjustment mechanism is not correct and as such the black levels increase with time. However, I cannot confirm if the same issue applies for our sets as our firmware is different."was really going to spring for the panasonic plasma G10 display till I read that the black levels on the generation 12 panels will increase over time. It will rise to level that is twice that when you first switch it on. Probably at the 1000 hour mark or less. Has anyone experienced the black levels are rising ? blacks now looks gray instead of black ? this is a concern of mine. I'm looking for a 40-42" display. I only watch some TV and mostly DVDs. At the size I'm looking at, the Panny's are the only choice for Plasma. But if the rising black levels are not addressed, I'll switch to a Samsung Series 6 LCD panel" Read the above recently in a forum. Please read here also:- http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1167339 Please comment. Thanks in advance. ar188, It is increase as it normally it is measured as ft/L or cd/m2 and the lower is better. |
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Jan 23 2010, 11:07 AM
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Bro anfieldude,
You wake up so early on Sat wan ah?? |
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Jan 23 2010, 01:42 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 23 2010, 11:07 AM) Bro anfieldude, I have a 3yr old who acts as an alarm clock, no matter what time he sleeps, he wakes up at 7am or earlier!You wake up so early on Sat wan ah?? BTW: When can I come calibrate ur plasma? |
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Jan 23 2010, 03:43 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 01:42 PM) I have a 3yr old who acts as an alarm clock, no matter what time he sleeps, he wakes up at 7am or earlier! At least your 3 year old lets U use the PC. My 2 year old will wake me up at 7am on the dot and I can't do anything... BTW: When can I come calibrate ur plasma? |
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Jan 23 2010, 04:17 PM
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alarm clock?? This post has been edited by ar188: Jan 23 2010, 04:24 PM |
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Jan 23 2010, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 01:07 AM) maybe it'should be black levels decresing over time? (means get worse) ?? Black levels increasing means the black slowly becoming gray.(if black levels are increasing means the blacks are improving right?) Added on January 23, 2010, 7:25 pm QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 07:11 AM) I have read and talked to some calibrators in the US that the US G series (THX) has a problem where the black levels are increasing with time. It is a firmware bug and it is not clear if it being addressed correctly. The voltage adjustment mechanism is not correct and as such the black levels increase with time. However, I cannot confirm if the same issue applies for our sets as our firmware is different. anfieldude - thanks for your comments.ar188, It is increase as it normally it is measured as ft/L or cd/m2 and the lower is better. Thanks This post has been edited by jitbeng: Jan 23 2010, 07:25 PM |
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Jan 23 2010, 07:54 PM
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ft/l is measure of luminance not black level. U cannot measure black. U measure light. When ft/l increase means light level increase. Not black level increase.
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Jan 23 2010, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 07:54 PM) ft/l is measure of luminance not black level. U cannot measure black. U measure light. When ft/l increase means light level increase. Not black level increase. Of course u r right. However, as u already know (I'm sure that u know), black level measurement is technically done when u send a 0% stimuli to the display. Since not many displays actually have zero luminance when sent a 0% stimuli, the reading is the actual black level reading. So far, on my meter only the 9G Kuro can actually shows up as zero luminance (however, my meter is not known to have good low light levels capabilities (lowest it reads accurately shd be in the regions of 1ft/L. However, even then, in the dark there is a slight glow for the Kuro. The 8G Ku.ro and the Sammy A950 are the next 2 lowest I have recorded. However, both of these panels are not close to zero luminance. On the G series, the voltage change mechanism in the firmware is flawed, as such the black levels (based on measured data, again not mine rises from 0.004ft/L to 0.008ft/L or more and this happens before 1000hrs. But then again, u already knew this....u were just trying to have fun... |
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Jan 23 2010, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 01:42 PM) I have a 3yr old who acts as an alarm clock, no matter what time he sleeps, he wakes up at 7am or earlier! Soon bro, I just wanna make sure it is calibrated at the new environment....BTW: When can I come calibrate ur plasma? |
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Jan 23 2010, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 23 2010, 09:21 PM) But then again, u already knew this....u were just trying to have fun... truly u are calibration sifu.. Added on January 23, 2010, 10:17 pmanyway, as for the english part of it.. , when you say black levels increase, means lighter (whiter)?? I mean when blue level increase, I would expect it become more blue, not less blue, no? This post has been edited by ar188: Jan 23 2010, 10:17 PM |
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Jan 23 2010, 10:22 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 10:11 PM) truly u are calibration sifu.. With black and white, its easier. Added on January 23, 2010, 10:17 pmanyway, as for the english part of it.. , when you say black levels increase, means lighter (whiter)?? I mean when blue level increase, I would expect it become more blue, not less blue, no? With colours, its not, the colours have 3 measures, hue, saturation and luminance. Also hue and saturation is measured in the CIE chart, luminance isn't So technically, when it becomes more blue, I'm not sure if u mean luminance or saturation.... If u desaturate blue, it approaches white. If we reduce the luminance of blue, it remains blue but with less intensity. If u shift the hue of blue, it's colours change to resemble a difference colour... Complicating no? For black and white, its supposed to be easier, u start with black, which is essentially the absence of light, then adding any light start shades of grey...intensifying grey u get white...supposedly. Anyway, we've had our fun, let's not derail this thread. |
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Jan 23 2010, 10:26 PM
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so if black levels are increased to maximum value means it becomes white???
(nothing to derail.. we are discussing an area relevant to Plasma/LCD).. |
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Jan 23 2010, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 23 2010, 10:26 PM) so if black levels are increased to maximum value means it becomes white??? Black (absence of light) has no x,y in the CIE chart. In the CIE chart, there is no black as black is not technically a colour, black is supposed to be the absence of light. However, the Y (Luminance) shd be theoretically zero. Increase luminance and u shd start getting shades of grey x,y shd be 0.3127, 0.330. Keep increasing Y and in the end u get white. Since no display can actually do absolute black, its used as a starting point for greyscale.(nothing to derail.. we are discussing an area relevant to Plasma/LCD).. This is in the measure of greyscale. If u keep out all other colours, if u keep jacking luminance eventually u get white. Technically, not right though but practically correct thats what happens. Send a 0% signal (black) to a display, increase only brightness (which is the control for black in displays) u start getting some readings of x,y, Y. Y being the luminance. The screen becomes more and more grey. Of course, brightness cannot be increased infinitely since it maxes out. This post has been edited by anfieldude: Jan 23 2010, 11:04 PM |
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Jan 23 2010, 11:05 PM
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ok thanks for the info..
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Jan 23 2010, 11:23 PM
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now i more confused than before...
but it is good to know all the information although can't really digest it all... salute bro Anfield... |
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Jan 25 2010, 01:57 PM
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Bro anfieldude,
If I calibrate now in my current crib, will it differ/affect much when I move to a new place? I plan to make my living room darker to block the sun light if I move to a new place. |
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Jan 25 2010, 02:22 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 25 2010, 01:57 PM) Bro anfieldude, The greyscale and colour points won't move. However, since the room lighting will change a change in gamma might need to be made. Thus, it is better to verify if the new environment, touch up needs to be done. However, on ur set, I am not sure if there is a gamma toggle, though I suspect the Sammys have a setting to adjust gamma.If I calibrate now in my current crib, will it differ/affect much when I move to a new place? I plan to make my living room darker to block the sun light if I move to a new place. If the room is going to have even less ambient light, we can go for a higher gamma ie, darker image. |
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Jan 25 2010, 02:52 PM
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So i guess it is more advisable to do it in the new environment right?
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Jan 25 2010, 03:08 PM
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Jan 25 2010, 02:52 PM) So i guess it is more advisable to do it in the new environment right? It is better do it in the final environment. |
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Jan 28 2010, 09:34 AM
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Some interesting developments for the LCD camp. Improved way of suppresing backlight levels meaning better blacks and essentially better contrast ratios. High Def Digest Zeon Story Hope this can be somehow cross manufactured in local dimming LED backlit. If this does what it claims, the only gripes of the LCD tech would be of course viewing angles and method of refresh. LCD fans rejoice. |
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Jan 28 2010, 03:13 PM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Jan 28 2010, 09:34 AM) Some interesting developments for the LCD camp. Improved way of suppresing backlight levels meaning better blacks and essentially better contrast ratios. again it goes to show what you have in the market now is still not so good PQ la.. High Def Digest Zeon Story Hope this can be somehow cross manufactured in local dimming LED backlit. If this does what it claims, the only gripes of the LCD tech would be of course viewing angles and method of refresh. LCD fans rejoice. |
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Jan 28 2010, 04:21 PM
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Jan 28 2010, 03:13 PM) again it goes to show what you have in the market now is still not so good PQ la.. Definately, the LCD disadvantages need more work on. The black levels (even on the newer LED backlit) on mixed content is not as good as plasma. There is work to be done, however, if u notice the push this year is 3D, looks like some of these developments for performance improvements might take a back seat. |
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 23 2010, 11:23 PM) now i more confused than before... eat less. the slimmer the tummy the faster u catch up but it is good to know all the information although can't really digest it all... salute bro Anfield... |
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Jan 28 2010, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Jan 28 2010, 04:58 PM) eat less. the slimmer the tummy the faster u catch up old man i don't need to catch up... |
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Jan 28 2010, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(zerorulez @ Jan 28 2010, 08:37 PM) old man i don't need to catch up...  |
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QUOTE(kianwee @ Jan 28 2010, 09:42 PM) Maybe old man need to change the avatar to this instead of Remy. aiks! this some scary sh1t.. put spoiler next time.. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «  |
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Jan 28 2010, 10:23 PM
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Jan 29 2010, 03:30 AM
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A quick ques....don wanna create topic about it.
Anyone can recommend stores that sells Sanus wall mount brackets? need it for my 50" panny. thanks |
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Jan 29 2010, 02:02 PM
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new big screen size LCD line-up for this year
sony EX5 55'' toshiba Zseries 55'' sharp lagi best , 60'' (777) series with LG new led backlight models coming in soon and plus new panny and sammy plasma 54'' to 58'' range just around the corner , its gonna be heck of a good time to select and buy big screen size TV this year This post has been edited by sunnyK: Jan 29 2010, 02:02 PM |
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Jan 29 2010, 10:36 PM
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what r the difrent between plasma n lcd screen? plasma is like a mirror isit?
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Jan 29 2010, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE(saiya @ Jan 29 2010, 10:36 PM) what r the difrent between plasma n lcd screen? plasma is like a mirror isit? Like mirror? Did you mean ppl brought Plasma is to watch themselves la? |
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Jan 29 2010, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(saiya @ Jan 29 2010, 10:36 PM) what r the difrent between plasma n lcd screen? plasma is like a mirror isit? |
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Jan 29 2010, 11:18 PM
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Jan 29 2010, 11:03 PM) Like mirror? Did you mean ppl brought Plasma is to watch themselves la? hahaha i mean like when we watch the tv, we can see reflection our self like mirror isit? |
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Jan 30 2010, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(saiya @ Jan 29 2010, 11:18 PM) hahaha i mean like when we watch the tv, we can see reflection our self like mirror isit? That depend on your viewing enviroment and condition. In my case, there is no light come from outside of my house and when I watch movie, I usually switch off the light in my room. So, since there is no light from inside or outside, so, there is no reflection issue. This post has been edited by low98944: Jan 30 2010, 10:16 AM |
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Jan 30 2010, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(saiya @ Jan 29 2010, 11:18 PM) hahaha i mean like when we watch the tv, we can see reflection our self like mirror isit? For me I watch everything with the room light on. No reflection whatsoever. PQ is excellent/fantastic.Thanks |
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Jan 31 2010, 02:54 PM
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any recommend 42inch LCD around rm3000?
and where can have warranty extend for up to 5 yrs? HLK can add another 3yrs warranty but is under KURNIA?is it reliable? |
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Feb 1 2010, 04:51 PM
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hi guys.. i'm looking for a 32" Full HD LCD TV... Budget is under 2k..
Prefer Samsung, LG, Sony... Any recommendation?? More over performance  Plan to buy it solely for PS3 gaming and bluray |
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Feb 2 2010, 07:04 PM
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QUOTE(fizzy15 @ Dec 17 2009, 01:40 PM) to my knowledge, if panasonic, wobbling can be enable through pic setting 'game' Why the wobbling feature is only available in Game mode?? |
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Feb 4 2010, 02:28 PM
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QUOTE(victor87 @ Feb 1 2010, 05:51 PM) hi guys.. i'm looking for a 32" Full HD LCD TV... Budget is under 2k.. Yeah, me too looking the same thing. Currently i saw the 32" Sony 32EX400 Full HD is RM2299, any other brand cheaper than that?Prefer Samsung, LG, Sony... Any recommendation?? More over performance Plan to buy it solely for PS3 gaming and blurayAdded on February 4, 2010, 3:07 pmJust got one 32" LG-32LF20FR which cost RM1699 with Full HD, saw in lowyat forum. This post has been edited by rstusa: Feb 4 2010, 03:08 PM |
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Feb 8 2010, 08:09 AM
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Looking for 32" Full HD LCD under RM3000, any recommendation. going to buy it later. Preferably sharp or sony.
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Feb 9 2010, 12:21 PM
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So, apperently panasonic plasma quality is deteriorate over time, according to press release by panasonic. That sucks.
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Feb 9 2010, 09:35 PM
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I'm looking for led tv that's good in movies
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Feb 10 2010, 10:27 PM
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Hi...LCD user do u have problem with your watching when u play BLU RAY MOVIE, i think something
wrong with image movement it look like not real....... ...anybody can explain to me...i'm plasma user btw... |
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Feb 11 2010, 08:12 AM
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QUOTE(matyeo @ Feb 10 2010, 10:27 PM) Hi...LCD user do u have problem with your watching when u play BLU RAY MOVIE, i think something Off the 100Hz/120Hz/200Hz motion flow thingy.wrong with image movement it look like not real....... ...anybody can explain to me...i'm plasma user btw... Added on February 11, 2010, 8:41 amPanasonic Plasmas Get the 3D Treatment The new 3D plasma TVs from Panasonic are set to release overseas. It’s been just over a month since we got to see Panasonic’s new plasmas for the first time and they’ve already got an announced release date. These sharp looking sets are slated for an April 23rd release in Japan, with a US release to follow. Panasonic’s 50” 3D plasma model is called the TH-P50VT2 and appears to be the same as the upcoming TC-P50VT25 in the US. Its main feature, aside from the 3D of course, is the deep blacks and high contrast ratio. Panasonic states that the contrast on the new plasmas is an impressive 5,000,000:1. The TH-P50VT2 sports four HDMI inputs and a range of SD inputs. Anything that goes in standard definition can be processed by the set and displayed in HD. You’ve got upscaling built right in. The 50” TH-P50VT2 is set to sell for around $4,800 in Japan while the next step up, a 54” set, will be running $6,000. Source: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/ This post has been edited by low98944: Feb 11 2010, 08:41 AM |
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Feb 12 2010, 08:33 PM
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QUOTE(saiya @ Jan 29 2010, 10:36 PM) what r the difrent between plasma n lcd screen? plasma is like a mirror isit? mirror sikit2 ok maa no problem....... Added on February 12, 2010, 8:48 pm[quote=low98944,Feb 11 2010, 08:12 AM] Off the 100Hz/120Hz/200Hz motion flow thingy. if we off motion flow what about picture quality...? from what i see in showroom they ON that things while playing movie...why aa.. for me that terrible i cannot accept.... This post has been edited by matyeo: Feb 12 2010, 08:48 PM |
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Feb 12 2010, 11:03 PM
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Guys... i'm confuse know whether to choose plasma or LCD tv.
I'm in progress to setup home entertainment room. Which one is better for watching blueray movies.... Perhaps i want to grab 42 inch only |
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Feb 14 2010, 06:19 PM
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Hi i need advice...
Is it good to buy a 32 inch lcd TV for my new CPU for gaming and for internet as well as watching DVD and TV? is it advisable or still better to have 23 inch monitor for my new CPU? I saw that the series 3 samsung is selling now 1.5k so im thinking just getting it rather than the 23 inch monitor... |
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Feb 15 2010, 12:06 PM
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hi guys , i got a problem , i got a 40' lcd tv , not full hd , but the colour really sucks when the movie is somewhere in a dark place , my lcd kinda shows purple instead of black ... when its bright its okay , just when its dark .. help ? maybe i've set it wrongly ? thanks
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Feb 15 2010, 07:50 PM
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What's the most worthwhile panel to get for 40~42"?
Haven't decide on anything yet. Impressed by samsung's series 6, (the series 7 one is badly display, out of focus preview video). Any idea to go on LED/Plasma or LCD? no specific budget on mind yet |
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Feb 15 2010, 11:26 PM
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1. bring your favorite bd,dvd,game to the tv shop and test it out. if they dont entertain you, there is always another shop.
2. do your homework or read all 4 version of this plasma/lcd..from my own exp, 9 out of 10 salesman in klang valley will push lcd and condemn plasma. old tech, cant last long, image retention and the latest i heard is plasma is good with astro but lcd is better with dvd..hahaha. 3. its your eyes and money. err ears too. tv sellers in lowyat.net is cheaper or on par with the dealers. really, i have compared prices for the last 6 months... 4.remember that in electronics the latest gadget today can be bested by almost double in performance by its successor within the SAME price range. |
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Feb 16 2010, 12:17 AM
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What does calibration means? I have been using LCD tv all these while but haven't heard of it before..
Heard it when I am researching for review over the internet recently.. Not looking for Plasma as I heard they are not recommended for HTPC purposes This post has been edited by Sky.Live: Feb 16 2010, 12:19 AM |
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Feb 18 2010, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(Sky.Live @ Feb 16 2010, 12:17 AM) What does calibration means? I have been using LCD tv all these while but haven't heard of it before.. It means setting all the necessary parameter to optimize the unit for normal viewing conditon.Heard it when I am researching for review over the internet recently.. Not looking for Plasma as I heard they are not recommended for HTPC purposes |
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Feb 18 2010, 05:31 PM
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hi any advice guys?
Added on February 18, 2010, 5:32 pm QUOTE(znoop26 @ Feb 14 2010, 06:19 PM) Hi i need advice... any advice guys? Is it good to buy a 32 inch lcd TV for my new CPU for gaming and for internet as well as watching DVD and TV? is it advisable or still better to have 23 inch monitor for my new CPU? I saw that the series 3 samsung is selling now 1.5k so im thinking just getting it rather than the 23 inch monitor... This post has been edited by znoop26: Feb 18 2010, 05:32 PM |
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Feb 19 2010, 10:23 AM
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QUOTE(znoop26 @ Feb 18 2010, 05:31 PM) hi any advice guys? A tv is still difficult to replace a real monitor which has construct to what it means when you are doing surfing, word processing etc.Added on February 18, 2010, 5:32 pm any advice guys? unless it's a secondary screen, I wont advice getting a tv as a main screen.. |
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Feb 19 2010, 07:48 PM
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Thinking of getting LG PQ10 42", any comment?
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Feb 20 2010, 04:11 PM
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Today's Amazon deal of the day:
Epson MovieMate 60 V11H319220 Home Theater Projector   Current price is $479.99 (Price before this deal available); Deal of the Day offer: still $479.99 but yesterday price is $606.27 Anyone interested? This post has been edited by low98944: Feb 20 2010, 04:28 PM |
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Feb 21 2010, 12:35 AM
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newbie here, may i know what kind of quality is the video nowadays being show in the TV store? Is it HD 1080p or ??
example : mostly LED TV showing this kinda quality i think http://news.cnet.com/i/bto/20080828/sony_z4500_2.jpg http://www.simplyelectricals.co.uk/media/c...000-Front_1.jpg http://www.pyxiscamera.com/productimages/4...60_ln55b650.jpg http://www.justmonitors.com.au/main/samsun...series6art3.jpg http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/03/24/...__470x306,0.jpg This post has been edited by KenDiriwan: Feb 21 2010, 12:49 AM |
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Feb 21 2010, 03:12 PM
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Sorry, off topic here, but I need to look for a HDMI cable which is minimum 5 feet and above. Anyone knows who sells them or where can I get it?
It doesn't have to be branded cable.... thanks in advance |
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Feb 22 2010, 09:59 AM
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Bro soul, you got pm on your enquiry.
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Feb 22 2010, 03:34 PM
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thanks bro braveheart....
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Feb 27 2010, 08:58 AM
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Here is expert from http://bluray.highdefdigest.com talking about effect of similar to "burn-in" in LCD TV.
LCD TVs and Burn-In Q: Are any of the current crop of flat-screen TVs friendly to the 4:3 format? I have had two flat-screen LCDs (both Westinghouse), one a 37", the other a 42", and had been assured that burn-in would not be a problem...and had burn-in problems with both. The Westinghouse was purchased less than six months ago. A lot of broadcast TV is still in 4:3, and of course classic films and television. Maybe a third of what I watch falls into that category. I was told LCD did not have burn-in problems, that only plasma did. But my LCDs do have problems. I also have a stuck pixel. A: What you were told initially is (mostly) correct. LCD displays do not suffer from burn-in as it's typically defined. Burn-in is a danger to phosphor-based displays such as CRT and plasma. LCDs don't have phosphors that can burn an image into the screen. However, LCDs can exhibit a similar condition called sometimes called pixel persistence, image retention, or video memory. The general idea is the same: If you leave a static image on screen for too long, that image can get stuck on the screen. The difference is that once a plasma or CRT exhibits burn-in, the condition is usually permanent. With an LCD, it can often be corrected by either leaving the TV off or displaying a solid gray image (such as from a video calibration disc) for an extended period of time. Also, it takes much longer static exposure for an image to stick on an LCD than it does plasma or CRT. Burn-in and image retention are primarily factors of having improperly calibrated contrast on the TV. The "contrast" control is the screen's white level. If you have this set too high, the white is more likely to (for lack of a better word) "burn" an image into the screen. Calibrating this setting, either yourself with a calibration disc or by bringing in a professional, will greatly reduce the likelihood of this problem occurring. I would also recommend varying up the content that you watch. You say that 4:3 shows and movies make up approximately 1/3 of your viewing. Try to spread that out interspersed with content that fills the screen. You also mention that you have a stuck pixel. That's a completely separate problem caused by poor manufacture of the TV. Unfortunately, that can't be corrected. Source: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/...Sixty_Five/4304 |
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Feb 27 2010, 10:34 AM
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Planning to get pioneer krp-500a soon. Any recommended electrical shop with good service where I can purchased from?
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Feb 27 2010, 01:06 PM
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QUOTE(HeavenNirvana @ Feb 27 2010, 10:34 AM) Planning to get pioneer krp-500a soon. Any recommended electrical shop with good service where I can purchased from? As I am fr Penang, I cannot advise u where. However, the name Desa gets thrown out a lot for good prices of the KRPs.Also, u might wanna hurry, the stocks of the 500A are diminishing. |
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Feb 28 2010, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 27 2010, 01:06 PM) As I am fr Penang, I cannot advise u where. However, the name Desa gets thrown out a lot for good prices of the KRPs.↲Harvey Norman Penang got a few new units, rm13,999 Also, u might wanna hurry, the stocks of the 500A are diminishing. Added on March 1, 2010, 9:04 am QUOTE(jimmyteng18 @ Feb 28 2010, 09:26 AM) This post has been edited by jimmyteng18: Mar 1 2010, 09:04 AM |
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Mar 5 2010, 12:10 PM
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wanna ask something abt toshiba LCD, what is the difference between the RV and ZV series?
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