Hi all sifus...
i'm going to buy a new tv 40" and above either plasma/LED.. and i need recommendations
brand: Sony (im up for other brands but the important point is better lifespan)
budget: 2k-3k
purpose: Astro, USB to watch movie from hdd, will watch some 1080p movies.. (is smart tv worth buying now?)

if possible explain to me pros and cons on the tvs you recommend.

Thanks in advance.

For pitch black dark room viewing go for panasonic plasma ST50, accordong to cnet none of the best high end led tv that can even match this fantastic low price st50 in terms of BLACK LEVEL. Perfect screen uniformity no clouding, bkeeding whatsoever.

Newer models st60 is coming, but limited to 65" only. Better grap the 50" st50 .

How much is Panasonic plasma ST50? and which shop/seller offers the lowest price in kl area? thanks for the advice!! im gonna check it out with my own eyes

If you're going to consider an LCD Display (LED TV) for DARK ROOM viewing, they may present some problems. Currently only plasma has perfect uniformity.

a) Backlight Bleeding near the corners ( Flashlight effect )

2) Clouding ( Due to light guide gap with LCD)

3) Banding Vertical/Horizontal (Issues with LCD Panel/ during manufacturing)

All THESE are according to standard, not defects.



Samsung ES8000 Banding



Sony HX723 Clouding.



This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Apr 16 2013, 07:04 PM

To check banding, you can download scrolling videos (fast panning), form BlinkTV.com

For static screen, you can create a RGB f bitmap file (20, 20, 20) using windows paint and display it with usb photo mode. Its a DARK GREY color, to make the banding visible on static.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Apr 16 2013, 09:35 PM

I'm currently using SONY LCD 40+" and there are backlight bleeding on both of top corners.. they are so visible, it irritates me sometimes.. grrr... so im going to buy a second tv..
Im gonna follow your recommendation and going to check out Panasonic plasma tv ST50.. do i need to get extended warranty? May i know how much is the current market price? Thankiess.

I owns LG Edge lit LED LW5700, LW6500, I can tell u the bleeding and clouding is worse than the older generation ccfl backlight lcd which pretty uniform.

St50 50" is going for 3.4k.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Apr 16 2013, 09:03 PM

The BUDGET VERSION of Led TV, such as EX330, EX430, EX43B, LS3110, EH5000, EH5003, EH6030. These TV are not using Edge-lit LED, but Direct-Lit LED. So means its will not be using light guide plats, which is the cause of clouding. When moisture gets between it, then dries, the plates separates from LCD layer, according to samsung engineer.

Uniformity is definitely better than Edge-lit, even tho these are LOW END TVs, ironic isn't it? It has fewer Leds means brightness is lesser, around 250-300 nits. But the banding problem is still there, very obvious when viewing slightly above black gray materials. It will pops when viewing dark grey.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Apr 16 2013, 10:06 PM

Nice!!! More choices for me... i noticed some of 'em are samsung's. Is samsung tv any good? I had nightmare with my samsung galaxy S3.. used for 2-3 months then suddenly it just died.. luckily it was still under warranty.. but even after repaired, it still gave problems especially the graphic....

There is panel lottery with samsung, so its 50-50 chance.

These direct lit r quite uniform just like lcd models no ugly clouding. The best thing is still the price. They can play usb hd movies but lack smart functions.

What is "panel lottery"?

You'll get the idea here.

http://www.avsforum.com/t/1406151/the-offi...ners-thread/390

I hate lottery... lol.. i do not trust my luck..
Btw i have read something about new tv has to be calibrated.. does any new tv has to? And what other things i should be careful about when using new LED/Plasma tv?

Calibration is to improve color accuracy and picture quality, done by certified calibrators.

LED is pretty easy to care, but plasma needs abit of careful not to leave static image for too long, like switching channels once a while to avoid image retention on the screen with network logo.

If ur going yo use the tv in a bright living room, edge lit led from low to mid is still a good buy. The clouding would not be visible until u turn off lights.

plasma has a "ritual" called breakin process, its to get pixels aged evenly across the panel so that they r more stable n more resistant against screen burnin.

This post has been edited by Mea Culpa: Apr 17 2013, 03:32 PM

I'm going to put it on my coming sound-proof (going to renovate) room for karaoke, movie and gaming. So it is probably a slightly dimmer light room.

So i must not calibrate anything unless done by a certified calibrator?

You can try download the calibration disc iso, AVS HD 709.

The key point is measuring instrument, colorimeter.
human eye will adapt to environment, so u cannot calibrate accurately by eye

Okay i'll try it when i have my new tv.
Thank you very much for all your helps and useful informations.

This post has been edited by BOTBOTCHAI.: Apr 18 2013, 07:39 PM

Clouding is less visible with dimming. but they r pricey like some in this forum said u have to b "rich" to get them.

From ur pics ur camera exposer wont b able to capture clouding, overall picture have to b dark, set ur cam to night mode or iso800 or higher.

Sorry bro , my Samsung note 2 don't have night mode only low light. Here the photo in low light mode.


This post has been edited by BOTBOTCHAI.: Apr 18 2013, 09:11 PM