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Honours:
Division One Champions: 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967.
Premiership: 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009

European Cup: 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup: 1991
European Super Cup: 1991
FA Charity/Community Shield: 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967, 1977, 1983, 1990, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1993, 2003, 2007, 2008
FA Cup Winners: 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners: 1992, 2006, 2009
Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners: 1999
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008

Managers:
Alex Ferguson 06-11-1986 Present
Ron Atkinson 01-06-1981 06-11-1986
Dave Sexton 14-07-1977 01-04-1981
Tommy Docherty 22-12-1972 03-07-1977
Frank O'Farrell 08-06-1971 19-12-1972
Matt Busby 28-12-1970 02-06-1971
Wilf McGuinness 10-08-1970 28-12-1970
Matt Busby 01-02-1945 08-06-1969
Walter Crickmer 01-08-1944 01-02-1945
Jimmy Porter 01-08-1938 31-05-1944
Scott Duncan 01-06-1932 01-09-1937
Walter Crickmer 01-04-1931 01-06-1932
Herbert Bamlett 01-04-1927 01-04-1931
Clarence Hildrith 01-10-1926 01-04-1927
John Chapman 01-10-1921 01-10-1926
John Robson 01-12-1914 01-10-1921
Ernest Magnall 01-09-1900 01-09-1912

Record Home Attendance: 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record league win: 10-1 v Wolves 15/10/1892 Division 1

Record league defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn 10/4/1926 Division 1

Record league appearances: 606 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record league goalscorer: 199 Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record transfer fee received: 25,000,000 pounds for David Beckham to Real Madrid July 2003

Record transfer fee paid: 30,750 000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


AS the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 17 times in their history - 10 times in the last 11 seasons. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup twice, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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Season 2009/2010 Fixtures

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July 2009
18 Jul Pre-season Malaysian XI A 10:30
20 Jul Pre-season Indonesia Super League XI A 14:00
24 Jul Pre-season FC Seoul A 12:00
26 Jul Pre-season Hangzhou Greentown A 13:00
29 Jul Audi Cup Boca Juniors A 17:30
30 Jul Audi Cup Bayern Munich or AC Milan A TBC

August 2009
05 Aug Pre-season Valencia CF H 20:00
09 Aug Community Shield Chelsea A TBC
16 Aug Barclays Premier League Birmingham H 13:30
19 Aug Barclays Premier League Burnley A 19:45
22 Aug Barclays Premier League Wigan A TBC
29 Aug Barclays Premier League Arsenal H 17:15

September 2009
12 Sep Barclays Premier League Tottenham A 17:15
20 Sep Barclays Premier League Man City H 13:30
26 Sep Barclays Premier League Stoke City A TBC

October 2009
03 Oct Barclays Premier League Sunderland H 17:15
17 Oct Barclays Premier League Bolton H TBC
25 Oct Barclays Premier League Liverpool A 14:00
31 Oct Barclays Premier League Blackburn H 15:15

November 2009
08 Nov Barclays Premier League Chelsea A 16:00
21 Nov Barclays Premier League Everton H 17:15
28 Nov Barclays Premier League Portsmouth A TBC

December 2009
05 Dec Barclays Premier League West Ham A TBC
12 Dec Barclays Premier League Aston Villa H TBC
15 Dec Barclays Premier League Wolves H TBC
19 Dec Barclays Premier League Fulham A TBC
26 Dec Barclays Premier League Hull City A TBC
28 Dec Barclays Premier League Wigan H TBC

January 2010
09 Jan Barclays Premier League Birmingham A TBC
16 Jan Barclays Premier League Burnley H TBC
26 Jan Barclays Premier League Hull City H TBC
30 Jan Barclays Premier League Arsenal A TBC

February 2010
06 Feb Barclays Premier League Portsmouth H TBC
10 Feb Barclays Premier League Aston Villa A TBC
20 Feb Barclays Premier League Everton A TBC
27 Feb Barclays Premier League West Ham H TBC

March 2010
06 Mar Barclays Premier League Wolves A TBC
13 Mar Barclays Premier League Fulham H TBC
20 Mar Barclays Premier League Liverpool H TBC
27 Mar Barclays Premier League Bolton A TBC

April 2010
03 Apr Barclays Premier League Chelsea H TBC
10 Apr Barclays Premier League Blackburn A TBC
17 Apr Barclays Premier League Man City A TBC
24 Apr Barclays Premier League Tottenham H TBC

May 2010
01 May Barclays Premier League Sunderland A TBC
09 May Barclays Premier League Stoke City H TBC

17 June 2009. Please note these fixtures are provisional only. Fixtures are subject to change and may be selected for live TV broadcast; kick-off times will be confirmed in due course. Fans are strongly advised not to make travel or accommodation arrangements too far in advance.

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Manchester United Squad Photo 2008/2009

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Back row (L-R): Louis Saha, Danny Welbeck, Wes Brown, John O'Shea, Jonny Evans, Manucho, Rodrigo Possebon, Rio Ferdinand, Nemanja Vidic, Michael Carrick, Darren Fletcher, Fraizer Campbell

Second Row (L-R): Dr Steve McNally, Masseur Andy Caveney, Masseur Garry Armer, Kit Manager Albert Morgan, Ji-Sung Park, Anderson, Nani, Ben Foster, Edwin van der Sar, Tomasz Kuszczak, Darron Gibson, Rafael Da Silva, Fabio Da Silva, Goalkeeping Coach Eric Steele, Physio Neil Hough, Assistant Kit Manager Alec Wylie, Physio Rob Swire, Fitness Coach Tony Strudwick

Front Row (L-R): Carlos Tevez, Owen Hargreaves, Cristiano Ronaldo, First Team Coach Rene Meulensteen, Ryan Giggs, Manager Sir Alex Ferguson, Gary Neville, First Team Coach Mike Phelan, Wayne Rooney, Patrice Evra, Paul Scholes

Manchester United 2009-20010 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name]

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Goalkeeper
1. Edwin Van der Sar
12. Ben Foster
29. Tomasz Kuszczak
38. Ron Robert-Zieler
40. Ben Amos

Defender
2. Gary Neville (capt)
3. Patrice Evra
5. Rio Ferdinand
6. Wes Brown
15. Nemanja Vidic
20. Fabio da Silva
21. Rafael da Silva
22. John O'Shea
23. Jonathan Evans
25. Danny Simpson
36. David Gray
37. Craig Cathcart
39. James Chester

Midfielder
4. Owen Hargreaves
8. Anderson
11. Ryan Giggs
13. Park Ji-Sung
14. Zoran Tosic
16. Michael Carrick
17. Nani
18. Paul Scholes
24. Darren Fletcher
28. Darren Gibson
33. Sam Hewson
34. Rodrigo Possebon * On Loan To Sporting Braga *
35. Tom Cleverley
TBC. Antonio Valencia

Striker
9. Dimitar Berbatov
10. Wayne Rooney
19. Danny Welbeck
26. Manucho
31. Fraizer Campbell
41. Federico Macheda
TBC. Michael Owen

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Reon's Signatures Collections

Here you can find all the signatures created by our official Man Utd Street Talk signatures provider, Reon cool.gif

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Siggy 131-140 ** 13/06/09 - New Siggy Added (#133-139) **

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hahahaha sorry i just have to do it. First time ever ive done this and im giggling alone in the room lol

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wouuuu...so fast new tread version..
any1 know about H1N1 virus if at malaysia serius that MU coming or not?
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hmm.. 1st time also got into the 1st page.. heh...

h1n1.. i dont think it too serious.. plz no.
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well, the H1N1 is at Level 6, there's a chance the trip to Asia @ Asia Tours might be canceled. sad.gif
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Huntelaar the latest striker to be linked with Utd

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Klaas Jan Huntelaar is the latest big-name striker to be linked with a move to Manchester United.

The Dutchman could leave the Bernabeu.

Given the number of big-money signings at Real Madrid this summer, it would be no surprise if Huntelaar found himself surplus to requirements at the Bernabeu Stadium.

And, as any attempt to lure Karim Benzema to Old Trafford looks fraught with difficulty, it is not a shock either that it has been suggested a move for Huntelaar by Sir Alex Ferguson is on the cards.


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target might change to Hunterlaar if Benzema turn down at us

just pray H1N1 doesn't seem serious to close the 18.07 game in Bukit Jalil sweat.gif
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if can get hunterlaar around 15mils think is a good business for us..
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I know its kinda old news,but the new jersey really is UGLYYYYY.
Ive been waiting for quite some time to get another MU jersey and then they come up with this...
Guess ill wait another season tongue.gif

On another note,anyone else getting worried that none of our transfer targets are interested/willing to come to England/MU?

I feel bloody Real Mad are the big winners this time around. Everyone seems to be wanting to go there or willing to play there even though they've been stuck with mediocrity for almost 3 years now...
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SAF choose to silence himself.. let all other ppl talk on behalf of him. heh
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Another story in the tabloids is that Manchester United manager Sir Alex Ferguson has offered Nani to Wigan in exchange for Antonio Valencia.


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QUOTE(Apis_LuaLua @ Jun 26 2009, 03:34 PM)
hmm.. 1st time also got into the 1st page.. heh...

h1n1.. i dont think it too serious.. plz no.
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Huntelaar will be a much more realistic target than Benzema which will either stay at lyon or opt for RM. He will be a great addition to our squad and to compete with berbatov in first team.
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QUOTE(nshady @ Jun 26 2009, 04:53 PM)
Huntelaar will be a much more realistic target than Benzema which will either stay at lyon or opt for RM. He will be a great addition to our squad and to compete with berbatov in first team.
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yump, agree wif u, as Benzema keep n keep saying he plan stay in France another year la.. dis n tat la... hmm.gif
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Seems like Star Trek fever has hit Old Trafford. Looks okay after you get used to it, though Nike should have put more heads together and get a lil more creative than adding a black lining over last season's kit. Oh well, at least it looks better than Newcastle's away
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Douglas D-Day for United

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SIR Alex Ferguson is agonising over a £20m gamble on Brazilian golden boy Douglas Costa.

Ferguson has identified the Gremio midfielder as a man with the potential to provide the goals and creativity that United will be in desperate need of in the absence of Cristiano Ronaldo. But at such a hefty price tag, he knows Douglas represents a considerable risk.

Attempts to sign the 18-year-old on an initial three-week trial have been rejected by Gremio, who despite intimating they will only sell for £25m, are expected to deal at closer to £20m.

That is still an enormous fee for a teenager who has never played outside of his homeland.

Ferguson has more than £100m to spend this summer, following the £80m sale of Ronaldo and the £25m that was earmarked for Carlos Tevez. But he is not prepared to splash the cash unless he is certain he can find the players to take United back to the summit of European football.

And he knows he needs attacking players who can provide the goals and inspiration of Ronaldo and, to a lesser extent, Tevez.

Lyon's Karim Benzema and Atletico Madrid's Sergio Aguero remain in his sights, but the United manager refuses to be held to ransom - even after being handed the biggest transfer war chest of his Old Trafford reign.

Douglas would be another pricey recruit, but Ferguson must decide if he can afford to miss out on a player who has been likened to Ronaldinho in Brazil.

Even if he has a patchy record of signing South Americans, Ferguson has always been drawn to the flair of Brazilians and Argentines. But in all his time at United, he has seen numerous stars from that continent taken out of his reach by European rivals prepared to take a gamble on them as teenagers.

Gabriel Batistuta was a long-term target in the 1990s, but after his goal scoring feats in Italy with Fiorentina, United could never afford to lure the Argentine hitman to England.

Dithered

United dithered over Chilean striker Marcelo Salas in 98, when he would have been available for £10m - only to eventually see him become a major success at Lazio.

If there has been a weakness in Ferguson's transfer policy, it has been his failure to tap into the South American market at the highest level.

Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos, Rivaldo, Leonardo, Kaka, Robinho, Lionel Messi and Pato can be added to the list of players that United have missed out on down the years.

All too often Ferguson has been forced to enter the market once they've already proven themselves outside of their homeland, therefore seeing their valuations soar.

But the failure of those players that he did choose to take a risk on are sure to weigh heavily on his mind as he deliberates over parting with £20m for Douglas.

Uruguayan striker Diego Forlan and Brazilian World Cup winner Kleberson proved expensive mistakes, with both struggling to adapt to English football.

At the other end of the spectrum, Juan Sebastien Veron might have proved himself in Italy, but at a cost of £28.1m, the Argentine ranks amongst Ferguson's biggest transfer blunders.

Policy

There has clearly been a change in Ferguson's policy towards South Americans, with him hoping to build a base at United in the same way that Arsene Wenger managed with French players at Arsenal.

He was prepared to spend around £20m on Anderson as an unproven 19-year-old from Porto in 2007.

The Brazilian midfielder might have already made the successful switch been to Portugal, but he had only just recovered from a career-threatening broken leg.

Still Ferguson wasn't prepared to let a player, who scouts described as potentially one of the best in the world, fall to any of United's European rivals.

Likewise, United have plundered Brazil for teenage full-backs Rafael and Fabio da Silva, as well as Rodrigo Possebon.

Ferguson swooped after their impressive displays for Brazil's Under-17 World Cup-winning side and, in the case of the Da Silvas, beat Arsenal and Real Madrid to their signatures.

Another Brazilian teenager, Dodo, is expected to come to Old Trafford in a £5.5m deal from Corinthians, but Costa remains his priority after impressing with three goals in the South American Youth Championship in January.


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ITS. SO. YELLOW!

Anyway, might get the new kit soon. Wee!
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Karim Benzema's agent has confirmed Manchester United are keen to sign the Lyon striker this summer.

The France international has been strongly linked with a move to both the Red Devils and Real Madrid, though Lyon are keen to retain his services.

The Ligue 1 side admitted on Thursday that Real had made an enquiry, while United have remained silent on their transfer targets as they look to fill the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo's departure for the Bernabeu.

But agent Karim Djaziri has now admitted Sir Alex Ferguson has earmarked his client for a move to the Premier League - and believes it is inevitable that Benzema will leave Lyon at some point in the future.

Djaziri told Europe1: "Ferguson wants Karim this summer, however his transfer fee will not be over 40million euros.

"He is only 21, the only time a transfer of a 21-year-old went so high it was the Robinho transfer to Real Madrid.

"Karim can't be more valued than David Villa, who will cost more than 40million euros.

"The question is not if he will sign for one of the big clubs, but when."

Djaziri's comments come just three days after he insisted Benzema would not be leaving Stade Gerland for at least another year.


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Rooting for Benzema 7..woot..woot!
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ah the Benz....doubt he'll be anything less than 40 mil tho, given that we have that stash of quids in the bank
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the problemo is he dont want to move out at the moment, for another season.

can we have precontract like Ronaldo have with RM?
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MU squad

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Greeeen ranger...Powaaa!

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White ranger!!

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Blue ranger...my all time favourite.
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huh? so many colours?

1 HOME RED
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1 3rd Kit.. Green or BLue?
another 1?
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Jun 26 2009, 04:00 PM)
I know its kinda old news,but the new jersey really is UGLYYYYY.
Ive been waiting for quite some time to get another MU jersey and then they come up with this...
Guess ill wait another season tongue.gif

On another note,anyone else getting worried that none of our transfer targets are interested/willing to come to England/MU?

I feel bloody Real Mad are the big winners this time around. Everyone seems to be wanting to go there or willing to play there even though they've been stuck with mediocrity for almost 3 years now...
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huh? so many colours?

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1 AWAY White
1 3rd Kit.. Green or BLue?
another 1?
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Personal opinion, I think that they are all beautiful biggrin.gif

EDITED : maybe the Green away is a fake.

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That white kit is our Home GK kit. Should have been our home/away kit. I must be the only few who like the new kits I guess.. but probably Fletcher getting #7 clouds my judgement..


Added on June 26, 2009, 9:32 pmThat green one is photoshopped..

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it's green.. long time no see green..

last time mix green jersey.. confirm silau mata tgk ni tongue.gif
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yeah they are all great, the only problem that stop me buying now is..

if I buy it now..for sure i`ll be itchy to wear it during Asia Tour.. but already plan wearing 08/09 third jersey together with my girl.. so..
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jun 26 2009, 09:32 PM)
That white kit is our Home GK kit. Should have been our home/away kit. I must be the only few who like the new kits I guess.. but probably Fletcher getting #7 clouds my judgement..


Added on June 26, 2009, 9:32 pmThat green one is photoshopped..
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Aw dang. I wished the green one existed.

Then the 3rd kit would be pink.
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QUOTE(EyraYus @ Jun 26 2009, 09:33 PM)
yeah they are all great, the only problem that stop me buying now is..

if I buy it now..for sure i`ll be itchy to wear it during Asia Tour.. but already plan wearing 08/09 third jersey together with my girl.. so..
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the green and blue is awesome man...away kit is damn ncie for player and keeper!!
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QUOTE(roti-terbakar @ Jun 26 2009, 09:31 PM)


EDITED : maybe the Green away is a fake.
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I mean, a team of power rangers, how cool can it be? laugh.gif
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the green will be top sales if it's real

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QUOTE(yfchin2 @ Jun 26 2009, 09:42 PM)
the green will be top sales if it's real
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Maybe the green would be GK home and blue to be GK away? =3
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lmao..i really love the green..im going to print one jersey like this myself
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The away kit will be black with blue v I think..
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green?!quite weird!!
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It's official! Darren Fletcher would get the #7! thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(Characuta @ Jun 26 2009, 09:52 PM)
Maybe the green would be GK home and blue to be GK away? =3
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where did u guys get the picture from? As far as i know, MU havent released any pictures of the new jersey. It will only be 'shown' on July 16th I think.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jun 26 2009, 11:08 PM)
It's official! Darren Fletcher would get the #7!  thumbup.gif
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Oi! I'm sure whoever came up with that at Nike are well paid for it. Real jersey, with real name and number. Photoshopped pics don't look as good as that. biggrin.gif
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from manutd.com, the first main story there, you can view the picture by clicking on the camera icon on the bottom right edge of the main picture with 3 Utd players.
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a couple of weeks ago got someone selling dvds of season review.. pls pm me if u got dvds for season 0708 and 0809.. btw i dont want downloaded dvdrips..

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a couple of weeks ago got someone selling dvds of season review.. pls pm me if u got dvds for season 0708 and 0809..
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the last seasons one im not if its already out.but always can check at the united store.btw our new home kit celebrating OT's centenary is unveiled notworthy.gif
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Fletcher no.7 lol
I think the pattern and collar on the home kit should be white.
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Fletcher no.7 lol
I think the pattern and collar on the home kit should be white.
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This new jersey is to celebrate 100years of MU, so they designed the jersey to similar one used 100 years ago.. biggrin.gif




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if white collar will be similar to the one used by Busby Babes. for THAT history, we already celebrated 2-3 seasons ago, remember  when we wear this jersey --
This new jersey is to celebrate 100years of MU, so they designed the jersey to similar one used 100 years ago..  biggrin.gif
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hey guys. besides the online website and the black market in our forum, where can i buy manutd vs malaysia tickets?

is there a ticketpro shop or something in KL and is Nike still selling it? thanks... smile.gif
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i aint a person who criticize players. but tevez antics lately have really get on my nerves. thank god u left. dun wan another argie-trouble-maker in our squad anymore.

sudah blah, blah la...cakap banyak buat apa? good luck to city to sign 3 troublemakers if they do sign eto'o + tevez.


Added on June 27, 2009, 10:21 amand for all rumour mongers....saf baru balik cuti dari france la...saturday sunday tak kerja. monday baru start kerja kul 9am UK time la. so, rilek for this weekend dulu. think of what banner to put up during their tour in bkt jalil lagi best ah.....icon_rolleyes.gif

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hey guys. besides the online website and the black market in our forum, where can i buy manutd vs malaysia tickets?

is there a ticketpro shop or something in KL and is Nike still selling it? thanks... smile.gif
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Carlos Tevez remains uncertain where he will be playing next season, but claims he knew his days were numbered at Manchester United when Dimitar Berbatov arrived.

The Argentina international will join a new club ahead of the next season after rejecting a five-year contract with United, having spent the past two seasons on loan at Old Trafford.

Manchester City and Chelsea are understood to be admirers of the 25-year-old, but it remains unclear where he will start the new campaign.

Tevez, though, insists he was certain he would not stay with United following the signing of former Tottenham star Berbatov last summer.

"I am not sure where I am going to play, but I know for sure that it will not be at Manchester (United)," Tevez told TyC Sports.

"I did not feel supported after they signed Berbatov, because I was the man for the job he was bought to do.

"Ferguson told me not to be worried about Berbatov's arrival, but I did not like it when he started to put me on the bench often. I gave my life for the Manchester United shirt."


TEVEZ<CLUB
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QUOTE(ToddStarz @ Jun 27 2009, 09:31 AM)
the new jersey is to celebrate 100 years of old trafford not 100 years of Man Utd
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He has Arsenal written all over him unfortunately. biggrin.gif
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He has Arsenal written all over him unfortunately. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sinoffire @ Jun 27 2009, 10:15 AM)
i aint a person who criticize players. but tevez antics lately have really get on my nerves. thank god u left. dun wan another argie-trouble-maker in our squad anymore.

sudah blah, blah la...cakap banyak buat apa? good luck to city to sign 3 troublemakers if they do sign eto'o + tevez.


Added on June 27, 2009, 10:21 amand for all rumour mongers....saf baru balik cuti dari france la...saturday sunday tak kerja. monday baru start kerja kul 9am UK time la. so, rilek for this weekend dulu. think of what banner to put up during their tour in bkt jalil lagi best ah.....icon_rolleyes.gif
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Malaysian Red Army. Haha.

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You forgot Fabregass.

I don't know if Tevez was being mistranslated or something, but to say he wasn't supported after Berba arrived is bull. Sure nobody is happy not being a regular in the side, but it comes with the territory when you play for a big side, especially when you're not one of the best player in the world, never mind the squad. His reason to move because he need first team games on a regular basis is fine to most people, but don't spout shit like we mistreated him or something. He starts almost the same amount as the other strikers, and featured in a lot of the big games.
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I agree with that. He is after all a part of a team. And you have to play with the team, play for the manager who manages the team. For all the talents

United have in their squad, sometimes some playing time had to be sacrificed. For me, it just shows how "loyal" Tevez to United. Sure, most of the fans

love him, but loathing Berba? Thats just crap. I think, given he was still in his first season United, he should be given a break. Sure, his style is not all

out action like Tevez, but that is reason why SAF bought him in the first place. A different type of player to fit in the team. I don't dislike Tevez, it is just

probably Tevez will yet be another Heinze. Although, Heinze case is worse. sad.gif and yes, Ronaldo will be a massive loss for the team. Let's hope the

team will gel together faster and play with more teamwork and team effort this time around. Not that I am saying we didn't play like one, but just

saying Ronaldo was special. thumbup.gif Let's hope Rooney will step up and be our next FIFA World Player of the Year. tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif . What a dream eh? Even

if he won't be one, let's hope United will continue winning trophies, and play the way that made me fell in love with United in the first place. wub.gif
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let berba show his class next season...
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As a Manager, SAF has to do what he thinks is best for the team.
Tevez has to do whats better for him and his family. But out of the potential clubs he might go to, I hope he goes to City, coz they're the least 'threatening'
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Well, Berba will have to sit on the bench supporting Benzema and Rooney. Real will buy Benzema next season for a world record fee, and Berba will get his chance.

Our kit is a tribute for MJ huh?
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jun 27 2009, 04:15 PM)
Well, Berba will have to sit on the bench supporting Benzema and Rooney. Real will buy Benzema next season for a world record fee, and Berba will get his chance.

Our kit is a tribute for MJ huh?
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Can anyone or anything cure my depression due to the fact that ronaldo is leaving?



I thought this would help me forget him, but it pretty obvious of its result. sad.gif
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Sir Alex Ferguson took another step towards the £30m capture of striker Karim Benzema yesterday. But Manchester United could yet face fierce competition from bitter transfer market rivals Real Madrid. Fallen French champions Lyon opened the door to the sale of prize asset Benzema by making a £15m move for Porto striker Lisandro Lopez. It is a clear indication that Lyon president Jean-Michel Aulas is preparing to cash in on his 21-year-old star. Lyon were knocked back in a bid for Paris Saint-Germain’s Guillaume Hoarau. But their rapid response was a move for Portugal ace Lopez. That is good news for United boss Ferguson, who is aware  Benzema is in no hurry to leave Lyon until after the World Cup next summer. The Old Trafford chief’s main problem could be big-spending Spanish giants Real, who have taken £80m Cristiano Ronaldo from United and also want Wigan winger Antonio Valencia. Real are now likely to target Benzema, leaving United to hope that the Galactico policy at the Bernabeu will persuade the young Frenchman his prospects will be better at Old Trafford.
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The Daily Mirror says Sir Alex Ferguson will quickly slap in a £40million bid for Spain's David Villa, after Barcelona opened the bidding for the Valencia star. However, the article does include Villa's assertion that: "Next season I will play in Spain because it is the league that is best for me." The same paper speculates that Nani could be used as a makeweight in a deal for Wigan's Antonio Valencia.

The transfer tittle-tattle keeps coming. United will have to fork out £25million - without an initial three-week trial - for Gremio starlet Douglas Costa, according to The Daily Mail.

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Can anyone or anything cure my depression due to the fact that ronaldo is leaving?



I thought this would help me forget him, but it pretty obvious of its result. sad.gif
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sad to see him leave as well
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Can anyone or anything cure my depression due to the fact that ronaldo is leaving?



I thought this would help me forget him, but it pretty obvious of its result. sad.gif
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get over dude, that's life
Ronaldo had achieve most of footballer glory with us, even the FIFA player of the year award, there is nothing he can achieve here, i'll just wish him the best in Real Madrid
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QUOTE(irving @ Jun 27 2009, 07:28 PM)
you made that video? well done mate. very moving
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Oh how I wish I could. My skills are limited to surfing "youtube" and click "play" button. And yes, I know how to embed videos as well lol.

That's the problem, it's making me feeling insecure, where are the goals coming?
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That's the problem, it's making me feeling insecure, where are the goals coming?
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we have berba and Rooney to generate it, and we need one winger that can cross perfectly. that will be enough
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Wait til SAF returns to the office on Monday when he will be given the green light to do the muscle-flexing that he has planned during his holiday.
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Campbell is already on his way to Hull.. Hunter can be the back up to berba-rooney..

p/s:Silva ---> no 7..
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aya chill lo...why so sad about ronaldo leaving....he was a legend.....but we even had the "king" and he left us to.noow thats some one to be sad when leaving, not ronaldo.

he wants real so much plz do go, we are Machester United not ronaldo united biggrin.gif


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http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009...ter-united-exit
As per above

Have Been Red Devil For Last 15 Years, I Wonder Why Ferguson Removed Core Competence Of Da Team Which Bring Home Da Titles And Bring In Someone Else To Replace Those Core Players.
2002-2004: English Football Flop Veron Replaced Da Highly Effective Scholesy
2008-2009: Ferguson Brings In An Arrogant Yet Materialistic Striker Berbatov To Replace Tevez In First 11.

Dimitar Berbatov
- Older 28
- More Expensive 30.75m pound
- Slower, Less Clinical, Less Effective
- No Good Track Records (as in trophies)
- No Marketing Value (Bulgaria, Not Hansome, Track Records Etc)
- Lazy, Less Suits ManUtd Striking Playing Style
- Arrogant, Highly Paid Big Lazy Bump (110,000/week, second only to Rooney/Ferdinand)
- Snubbed ManUtd b4 By Joining Tottenham from Bayer Leverkusen
- Da Player Who Simply Kicked Da Penalty, Resulted In ManUtd Losing Da FA Cup Semi To Everton

Carlos Tevez
- Younger 25
- Less Expensive 25.5m pound
- Faster, Clinical & Effective (Many Important Goals & Moments)
- Excellent Track Records v Major Team (South American Player Award, Argentina Olympic Champs, Copa America, Libertoreas Cup, Argentina Championship v Boca, Brazilian Championship v Corrithians, Argentina First 11)
- High Marketing Value (Aggresive, Bulldozing Energetic Playing Style, Track Records)
- Hardworking, Suits Man Utd Player Style, And Won Trophies For ManUtd~
- Humble, Lower Wage (80,000/week in ManUtd)
- 1st Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, Champions League, Premier League
- 2nd Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, CL Finals, Carling Cup, World Club Cup, And Premier League
- ManUtd Fans Love Him & He Respects Us By Not Joining Liverpool
- Always Declare His Love For Wearing ManUtd Jersey

Both Are Skillful~ I Really Couldnt Understand Why Ferguson Need To Sacrifice Tevez To Accommodate Berbatov In Da First 11, Beside Rooney And Tevez Pairing Is Even Better~
Kind Of Disappointed To See Tevez Leaving...
Anyone Has Other Views b/w These two Players....

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limshenghong,

Berbatov, Arrogant Yet Materialistic Striker ?
Man City offers bigger paycheck to him and he rejected Man City of ManUtd, materialistic?
To me, he is way more handsome than the hulk.

I expected more members to debate on your reply.
You only look at the bad part of Berbatov while the good part of Tevez. Now that's what I call "fair".
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aya chill lo...why so sad about ronaldo leaving....he was a legend.....but we even had the "king" and he left us to.noow thats some one to be sad when leaving, not ronaldo.

he wants real so much plz do go, we are Machester United not ronaldo united biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(limshenghong @ Jun 28 2009, 03:23 AM)
http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009...ter-united-exit
As per above 

Has Been Red Devil For Last 15 Years, I Wonder Why Ferguson Always Destroy Core Competence Of Da Team Which Bring Home Da Titles And Bring In Someone Else To Replace Those Core Players.
2002-2004: English Football Flop Veron Replaces Da Highly Effective Scholesy
2008-2009: Ferguson Bring In An Arrogant Yet Materialistic Striker Berbatov To Replace Tevez In First 11.

Dimitar Berbatov
- Older 28
- More Expensive 30.75m pound
- Slower, Less Clinical, Less Effective
- No Good Track Records (as in trophies)
- No Marketing Value (Bulgaria, Not Hansome, Track Records Etc)
- Lazy, Less Suits ManUtd Striking Playing Style
- Arrogant, Highly Paid Big Lazy Bump (110,000/week, second only to Rooney/Ferdinand)
- Snubbed ManUtd b4 By Joining Tottenham from Bayer Leverkusen
- Da Player Who Simply Kick Da Penalty, Resulted In ManUtd Losing Da FA Cup Semi To Everton

Carlos Tevez
- Younger 25
- Less Expensive 25.5m pound
- Faster, Clinical & Effective (Many Important Goals & Moments)
- Excellent Track Records v Major Team (South American Player Award, Argentina Olympic Champs, Copa America, Libertoreas Cup, Argentina Championship v Boca, Brazilian Championship v Corrithians, Argentina First 11)
- High Marketing Value (Aggresive, Bulldozing Energetic Playing Style, Track Records)
- Hardworking, Suits Man Utd Player Style, And Won Trophies For ManUtd~
- Humble, Lower Wage (80,000/week in ManUtd)
- 1st Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, Champions League, Premier League
- 2nd Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, CL Finals, Carling Cup, World Club Cup, And Premier League
- ManUtd Fans Love Him & He Respects Us By Not Joining Liverpool
- Always Declare His Love For Wearing ManUtd Jersey

Both Are Skillful~ I Really Couldnt Understand Why Ferguson Need To Sacrifice Tevez To Accommodate Berbatov In Da First 11, Beside Rooney And Tevez Pairing Is Even Better~
Kind Of Disappointed To See Tevez Leaving...
Anyone Has Other Views b/w These two Players....
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Let's look at the statistics for last season:-

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=12724&cc=4716
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=72490&cc=4716

Berbatov - All competitions
Games Started - 36
Sub - 7
Goals - 14
Assists - 9
SoG(Shots on Goal) - 77
SoT(Shots on Target) - 34

Tevez - All Competitions
Games Started - 33
Sub - 17
Goals - 16
Assists - 7
SoG(Shots on Goal) - 120
SoT(Shots on Target) - 42

Let's start making ratios

Total appearances:-
Berbatov - 43
Tevez - 50

Goals a game (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.33
tevez - 0.32

Assists a game (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.21
tevez - 0.14

SoT/SoG (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.44
tevez - 0.35

Please also take note that Tevez played in the Carling Cup against lower opposition where 6 of his goals and 2 of his assists came from, while he was basically ineffective in the Premier League

Berbatov never appeared in the Carling Cup and made the bulk of his contributions in the Premier League.

So from these statistics, we can tell that Tevez made more appearances, scored more and made more shots on goal.
But Berbatov scored more goals a game, made more total assists, made more assists a game and made more shots on target.
I'll leave it to everyone to decide for themselves who is more effective and contributed more last season. wink.gif

Just because someone doesn't cover a total mileage of 300km in a game or doesn't at least look like he is covering 300km in a game, doesn't mean the fella is lazy or useless.

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1st. Fix the grammar yo icon_question.gif

2nd. SAF destroyed the core? Wait wait.. rewind a sec, which part did he destroyed again? I wouldve point out a debate on each and every single point that you made, but I dont really fancy doing that at this point of time. Nothing said would turn things back, aye?

P/s: I was jk about the 1st part though tongue.gif Well.. maybe not so..

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QUOTE(limshenghong @ Jun 28 2009, 03:23 AM)
http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009...ter-united-exit
As per above 

Has Been Red Devil For Last 15 Years, I Wonder Why Ferguson Always Destroy Core Competence Of Da Team Which Bring Home Da Titles And Bring In Someone Else To Replace Those Core Players.
2002-2004: English Football Flop Veron Replaces Da Highly Effective Scholesy
2008-2009: Ferguson Bring In An Arrogant Yet Materialistic Striker Berbatov To Replace Tevez In First 11.

Dimitar Berbatov
- Older 28
- More Expensive 30.75m pound
- Slower, Less Clinical, Less Effective
- No Good Track Records (as in trophies)
- No Marketing Value (Bulgaria, Not Hansome, Track Records Etc)
- Lazy, Less Suits ManUtd Striking Playing Style
- Arrogant, Highly Paid Big Lazy Bump (110,000/week, second only to Rooney/Ferdinand)
- Snubbed ManUtd b4 By Joining Tottenham from Bayer Leverkusen
- Da Player Who Simply Kick Da Penalty, Resulted In ManUtd Losing Da FA Cup Semi To Everton

Carlos Tevez
- Younger 25
- Less Expensive 25.5m pound
- Faster, Clinical & Effective (Many Important Goals & Moments)
- Excellent Track Records v Major Team (South American Player Award, Argentina Olympic Champs, Copa America, Libertoreas Cup, Argentina Championship v Boca, Brazilian Championship v Corrithians, Argentina First 11)
- High Marketing Value (Aggresive, Bulldozing Energetic Playing Style, Track Records)
- Hardworking, Suits Man Utd Player Style, And Won Trophies For ManUtd~
- Humble, Lower Wage (80,000/week in ManUtd)
- 1st Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, Champions League, Premier League
- 2nd Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, CL Finals, Carling Cup, World Club Cup, And Premier League
- ManUtd Fans Love Him & He Respects Us By Not Joining Liverpool
- Always Declare His Love For Wearing ManUtd Jersey

Both Are Skillful~ I Really Couldnt Understand Why Ferguson Need To Sacrifice Tevez To Accommodate Berbatov In Da First 11, Beside Rooney And Tevez Pairing Is Even Better~
Kind Of Disappointed To See Tevez Leaving...
Anyone Has Other Views b/w These two Players....
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What sacrifice? You think it would be fine to start with Tevez and Rooney all of the games until they're tired/unavailable/in need of rest, and only after that we start to use Berba? How else would you expect him to gel with the team faster? If it was bad for the team, SAF wouldn't have started Berba so much. Fact is he did contributed to the side. Check out his stats, while not great, but it's not bad.

We needed another striker, and Berbatov was bought. If it's not Berbatov, it would have been someone else for 30m. Chances are Tevez would still have to fight for his place. It's Tevez's job to prove to SAF that he is the one to partner Rooney. And last season he didn't do enough to really cement that place. He's a good striker, but not that good. His scoring record ain't that impressive, and he's not that creative either.

If we want to compare stats, Berba both scored and assisted more than Tevez in 07/08 season. And he did it with Spurs, not a super dooper team like we had in 07/08. Last season they were pretty even. But that CC game against Blackburn really clouds things. Read somewhere that Ronaldo, Rooney and Berba was in the top 3 contributors of goals(goals and assists) in the last few seasons. That's why we bought him.

People just need to forget about that penalty kick. So he didn't score, big deal. He's not the first and the last person who fail to convert a decisive penalty. Remember that Ronaldo missed his penalty kick in the CL final, which luckily we won after Terry slipped and Anelka penalty was saved. I think he also missed that penalty against West Ham and we went on to lose that game. But did you b**** about it?

Lazy? Was Ronaldo lazy? He hardly tracks back. And also Rooney too was told not to do any other thing as much other than to stay upfront when he plays as the furthest forward. Was he lazy? And for your info, Berba is one of our highest successful tacklers/interceptors(well, something along those lines). He does do his fair share of defending, but he just doesn't run around like a maniac to do that. It's getting really annoying about this lazy thing.

As for the wages, who cares how much they earn at the club so long as they do their part in winning things with us? And I doubt anybody know anything about the amount of wages our players earn. They don't publish that sort of stuff freely for everyone to see.
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so ronaldo & tevez are leaving the team...of course u might say that no player is bigger than club but hey lets rewind the season back...

everytime when MU needs the goal, remember who dive in the box for the penalty?? who dive cheaply to get ref attention & won the free kick which resultin MU 3 points at the end of the day?? wasnt that ronaldo??

i doubt rooney can do the same thing.

same goes to tevez...rooney will need to double up his workrate as MU will not have the 'double turbo' that MU used to have in the team. berba was like shevchenko...the different is, he's worst in terms of workrate!!
with not much players coming thru from the academy...

the future might not be the same as before icon_question.gif

BTW: so much ppls selling their MU vs Malaysia tickets...ronaldo factor eh?
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Welbeck, Macheda, Petrucci, Rafael, Fabio, Matty James.. myth busted. Most of those may be outsiders but they are all young with potential to be squad players for us.

Dive? What dive? He hardly do that kind of stuff anymore, although he does go to ground easily, but a foul is still a foul at the end of the day. And can you give us the games which we won through freekicks and penalties? Would love to see how many we won through those.

As for the Tevez and running around thing.. Rooney have been told not to do anything besides being upfront last season, you know, being a normal striker not involve too much in defensive duties, which most attackers are under the same orders for most games. Funny people slate Berba for it, but said nothing about Ronaldo being lazy in tracking back(he was told not to track back to be fair), and Rooney not doing defensive duties.
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Wan, I can't remember when but I think at certain period of last season Fergie grew tired of Ronald not tracking back. That's why he played Ronaldo upfront and Rooney on the wing. Of course he has played Rooney on the wing prior to that, but I think there was a game where we concede a goal because Ronaldo lost the ball and did not track back, and that was the reason Fergie stick to his decision playing Rooney on the wing. I can't remember which game though.
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Wanna organize a gathering? wow! interesting! since i am still in the states, i cant join you my friends. =(.

However, I am still keep praying, Man U will get good transfers.

I hope, Chelsea, liverpool, totenham and real madrid will not interrupt Man U to dealing with players around the world.

Friends, who do you think will make a contract with man u?


Added on June 28, 2009, 10:24 amWanna organize a gathering? wow! interesting! since i am still in the states, i cant join you my friends. =(.

However, I am still keep praying, Man U will get good transfers.

I hope, Chelsea, liverpool, totenham and real madrid will not interrupt Man U to dealing with players around the world.

Friends, who do you think will make a contract with man u?

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Wanna organize a gathering? wow! interesting! since i am still in the states, i cant join you my friends. =(.

However, I am still keep praying, Man U will get good transfers.

I hope, Chelsea, liverpool, totenham and real madrid will not interrupt Man U to dealing with players around the world.

Friends, who do you think will make a contract with man u?
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QUOTE(limshenghong @ Jun 28 2009, 03:23 AM)
http://goal.com/en-us/news/85/england/2009...ter-united-exit
As per above 

Has Been Red Devil For Last 15 Years, I Wonder Why Ferguson Always Destroy Core Competence Of Da Team Which Bring Home Da Titles And Bring In Someone Else To Replace Those Core Players.
2002-2004: English Football Flop Veron Replaces Da Highly Effective Scholesy
2008-2009: Ferguson Bring In An Arrogant Yet Materialistic Striker Berbatov To Replace Tevez In First 11.

Dimitar Berbatov
- Older 28
- More Expensive 30.75m pound
- Slower, Less Clinical, Less Effective
- No Good Track Records (as in trophies)
- No Marketing Value (Bulgaria, Not Hansome, Track Records Etc)
- Lazy, Less Suits ManUtd Striking Playing Style
- Arrogant, Highly Paid Big Lazy Bump (110,000/week, second only to Rooney/Ferdinand)
- Snubbed ManUtd b4 By Joining Tottenham from Bayer Leverkusen
- Da Player Who Simply Kick Da Penalty, Resulted In ManUtd Losing Da FA Cup Semi To Everton

Carlos Tevez
- Younger 25
- Less Expensive 25.5m pound
- Faster, Clinical & Effective (Many Important Goals & Moments)- Excellent Track Records v Major Team (South American Player Award, Argentina Olympic Champs, Copa America, Libertoreas Cup, Argentina Championship v Boca, Brazilian Championship v Corrithians, Argentina First 11)
- High Marketing Value (Aggresive, Bulldozing Energetic Playing Style, Track Records)
- Hardworking, Suits Man Utd Player Style, And Won Trophies For ManUtd~
- Humble, Lower Wage (80,000/week in ManUtd)
- 1st Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, Champions League, Premier League
- 2nd Year V ManUtd: Charity Shield, CL Finals, Carling Cup, World Club Cup, And Premier League
- ManUtd Fans Love Him & He Respects Us By Not Joining Liverpool
- Always Declare His Love For Wearing ManUtd Jersey

Both Are Skillful~ I Really Couldnt Understand Why Ferguson Need To Sacrifice Tevez To Accommodate Berbatov In Da First 11, Beside Rooney And Tevez Pairing Is Even Better~
Kind Of Disappointed To See Tevez Leaving...
Anyone Has Other Views b/w These two Players....
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all your opinion about Tevez and Berbatov is totally bullsh1t, please watch every game in season 08/09 before u made those "great" comment
many people think that a player running around like headless chicken is hardworking player, especially striker, they don't have to run around, they job is to score goals, create opportunity etc

do u call Tevez a humble and loyal player? if he was loyal he will staying with us without snubbing the deal offered

QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jun 28 2009, 05:04 AM)
so ronaldo & tevez are leaving the team...of course u might say that no player is bigger than club but hey lets rewind the season back...

everytime when MU needs the goal, remember who dive in the box for the penalty?? who dive cheaply to get ref attention & won the free kick which resultin MU 3 points at the end of the day?? wasnt that ronaldo??

i doubt rooney can do the same thing.

same goes to tevez...rooney will need to double up his workrate as MU will not have the 'double turbo' that MU used to have in the team. berba was like shevchenko...the different is, he's worst in terms of workrate!!
with not much players coming thru from the academy...

the future might not be the same as before icon_question.gif

BTW: so much ppls selling their MU vs Malaysia tickets...ronaldo factor eh?
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dive? we don't need this, winning like that is a disgrace
FYI, Rooney workrate is the top among our squad player, play in left flank without any grumble, track back when he lose the ball, any Man Utd fans know that

i bet both of u didn't watch every game that Berbatov play, watch it before u made those "great" comment
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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 28 2009, 04:46 AM)
Let's look at the statistics for last season:-

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=12724&cc=4716
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players/stats?id=72490&cc=4716

Berbatov -  All competitions
Games Started - 36
Sub - 7
Goals - 14
Assists - 9
SoG(Shots on Goal) - 77
SoT(Shots on Target) - 34

Tevez - All Competitions
Games Started - 33
Sub - 17
Goals - 16
Assists - 7
SoG(Shots on Goal) - 120
SoT(Shots on Target) - 42

Let's start making ratios

Total appearances:-
Berbatov - 43
Tevez - 50

Goals a game (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.33
tevez - 0.32

Assists a game (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.21
tevez - 0.14

SoT/SoG (higher is better):-
berbatov - 0.44
tevez - 0.35

Please also take note that Tevez played in the Carling Cup against lower opposition where 6 of his goals and 2 of his assists came from, while he was basically ineffective in the Premier League

Berbatov never appeared in the Carling Cup and made the bulk of his contributions in the Premier League.

So from these statistics, we can tell that Tevez made more appearances, scored more and made more shots on goal.
But Berbatov scored more goals a game, made more total assists, made more assists a game and made more shots on target.
I'll leave it to everyone to decide for themselves who is more effective and contributed more last season. wink.gif

Just because someone doesn't cover a total mileage of 300km in a game or doesn't at least look like he is covering 300km in a game, doesn't mean the fella is lazy or useless.
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U left out tevez's playing time compare to berbatov. and not to mention the starting 11 appearance. if not mistaken those statistic is based on per game instead of game time.
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U left out tevez's playing time compare to berbatov. and not to mention the starting 11 appearance. if not mistaken those statistic is based on per game instead of game time.
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hmmm isnt game started is the starting 11 hmm.gif ????
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hmmm isnt game started is the starting 11 hmm.gif ????
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..................i donnu how to answer ur question. read again,the word appearance i think meant something there.
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QUOTE(akRia @ Jun 28 2009, 11:16 AM)
U left out tevez's playing time compare to berbatov. and not to mention the starting 11 appearance. if not mistaken those statistic is based on per game instead of game time.
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You could also argue that game time doesn't really prove a player's calibre, such as when the game has entered the last 10-20 minutes and the team is looking to secure a 1-0 lead. Instinctively, you would know that a striker for another striker substitution would be unfair to compare with because the striker entering the field would have more a defensive duty. Thus, game time calculation alone will never do justice to a player, unless taking into account other variables.

So that is to say, Macheda is a larger and better player than Robbie Keane if goal / game time were to be calculated. Another fun stats would be: Each Robbie keane's goal cost 1 Million, while each Macheda's goal cost MU abt 800k, so it is quite obvious that Robbie Keane's goals are better because they cost more.

That is why statistics never lies. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(akRia @ Jun 28 2009, 12:00 PM)
..................i donnu how to answer ur question. read again,the word appearance i think meant something there.
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He was referring to your statement about starting 11 appearances.

Games started = starting 11 appearances

That's all he was trying to say.

I think I understand what you meant about game time. However, based on the number of appearances itself, we can already conclude that Tevez had more playing time compared to Berbatov.

Tevez started 33 games. Berbatov started 36.
Tevez had 17 substitution appearances. Berbatov had only 7.

And in case anyone misunderstands me, I'm not saying Tevez is trash. I'm just trying to dispel this myth that people seem to have about Berbatov being crap because he is apparently lazy. Berbatov isn't crap. I do admit however, that Berbatov gives the appearance of laziness although he really isn't. As a matter of fact, for a person just joining a club without any pre season, he did well. People also keep going gaga about how Tevez works so much harder while Berbatov apparently never runs, so he must be the better player, etc. That's bollocks. Running more miles in a game =/ better player. And not to mention the fact that Berbatov does in fact run.


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Berba's not lazy. He's playing 'cool' & doesnt rush, he knows when he has to run & when not to. He's like Neo when he just discovered that he's the one.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Jun 28 2009, 10:48 AM)
all your opinion about Tevez and Berbatov is totally bullsh1t, please watch every game in season 08/09 before u made those "great" comment
many people think that a player running around like headless chicken is hardworking player, especially striker, they don't have to run around, they job is to score goals, create opportunity etc

do u call Tevez a humble and loyal player? if he was loyal he will staying with us without snubbing the deal offered
dive? we don't need this, winning like that is a disgrace
FYI, Rooney workrate is the top among our squad player, play in left flank without any grumble, track back when he lose the ball, any Man Utd fans know that

i bet both of u didn't watch every game that Berbatov play, watch it before u made those "great" comment
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this is the reason why peoples hate MU fans...it's simply because they're denying fact & thinks that they all grow up beside of Manchester Hospital!

dude chill lah..this is opinion onli..why get angry?? of course i didnot watch much of MU games because i'm not MU fans..

but a diver is a diver laa...u can talk shiiaatt "he's not a diver bla bla bla" but i bet i can give u atleast 10 youtube videos of him diving like a sissy to get freekicks /penalties.
nah a simple examples i can give you : http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...arch_type=&aq=f

so many different videos there..

now try at youtube... type "messi dive" that's the difference!!

i'm chelsea fans & i admit..drogba is one of the worst diver..not talking cock denying facts "we dont need to win in a disgrace way..." wateva

for tevez part...it's like what i said previously... rooney & tevez are the best 'turbo engine' for MU last season. and the simple reasons why fans love tevez more than berbatov is because he's a very productive hardworking man...it suits MU style...MU plays a very-fast attacking football ...so they need players like rooney-tevez-anderson who can round all the way in the pitch to get the ball..
this is MU ..not barca la weei...MU donot play free-flowing football..Berba needs to get down to work starting new season.not just wait for the ball...remember RVN?? of course we all know he's the kind of player who scores in the penalty box only...but look...where's he when defending?? when dead ball situation?? i remember one goal at OT where ruud runs from the middle pitch, dribble the ball and scores.

now i guess, u shud watch MU games more than me because u dont even know how ur team playing styles!!

well back to topic, Berba shud really proves his value or otherwise he's the next united flop.

p/s: i dont get here to provoke anyone..but chill lah. jangan semangat gila macam awak tu orang manchester! stadium pun pergi skali dalam seumur hidup dah bangga macam orang gila..awak tu orang malaysia ooii


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QUOTE(+Newbie+ @ Jun 28 2009, 12:18 PM)
He was referring to your statement about starting 11 appearances.

Games started = starting 11 appearances

That's all he was trying to say.

I think I understand what you meant about game time. However, based on the number of appearances itself, we can already conclude that Tevez had more playing time compared to Berbatov.

Tevez started 33 games. Berbatov started 36.
Tevez had 17 substitution appearances. Berbatov had only 7.

And in case anyone misunderstands me, I'm not saying Tevez is trash. I'm just trying to dispel this myth that people seem to have about Berbatov being crap because he is apparently lazy. Berbatov isn't crap.  I do admit however, that Berbatov gives the appearance of laziness although he really isn't. As a matter of fact, for a person just joining a club without any pre season, he did well. People also keep going gaga about how Tevez works so much harder while Berbatov apparently never runs, so he must be the better player, etc. That's bollocks. Running more miles in a game =/ better player. And not to mention the fact that Berbatov does in fact run.
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not forget to mention that berba only joins MU at the very last day of first transfer window..

& the facts that he do not joins pre-season also might be the reason why he cant follow the styles of MU.that's why i said, we shud give him another season

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Guys, What Do I Mean in My Previous Post Was That
Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Is Better Than Rooney+Berbatov+Ronaldo Axis
I Believe It's Equivalent To Henry+Eto+Messi
I Just Found That ManUtd Have COmpletely Lost Da Striking Fluidity Ever Since Berbatov Arrivals
Even Sir Bobby Charlton Mentioned That Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Axis Is Da New Holy Trinity

Yes You Might Argue v Your Statistics About Tevez+Berbatov
Liverpool Have Better League Statistics Than ManUtd Last Season, As In Goals, Matches Lost Etc
Berbatov Is Very Skillful v Elegant Playing Styles. However His Style Doesnt Suit ManUtd, Dont You Think So?
If Berbatov Costs Us 30.75m Pound, Just Couldnt Believe ManUtd Dont Wish To Spend 25.5m Pound On Da Proven Argentine Striker, At One Point Even Trying To Get Tevez For Free By Exploring European Laws.
Please Do Remember Tevez Is Younger 25, With Excellent Track Records v Clubs & Country. Berbatov? sweat.gif

Again tongue.gif , This Is Forum, Dont Have To Scold/Utter Bad Word Towards Tevez+Berbatov Comment,
Everyone Has Da Right To Share Opinion, Afterall We're ManUtd Fans Thanks. If You Disagree, Please just Share It, We're Here To Discuss icon_rolleyes.gif

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Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Is Better Than Rooney+Berbatov+Ronaldo Axis
I Believe It's Equivalent To Henry+Eto+Messi
Justify ur point. Better in what ways? When justifying, it would also be better if you take into consideration the fact that Tevez spent 2 seasons with us, while Berbatov was on his first season. smile.gif

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I Just Found That ManUtd Have COmpletely Lost Da Striking Fluidity Ever Since Berbatov Arrivals
Even Sir Bobby Charlton Mentioned That Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Axis Is Da New Holy Trinity

Also, what do you mean by that?

I believe that SBC said that at the beginning of last season, before even berbatov arrived. Would he say the the same had we bought Berbatov earlier? who knows.

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Yes You Might Argue v Your Statistics About Tevez+Berbatov
Liverpool Have Better League Statistics Than ManUtd Last Season, As In Goals, Matches Lost Etc
Berbatov Is Very Skillful v Elegant Playing Styles. However His Style Doesnt Suit ManUtd, Dont You Think So?
If Berbatov Costs Us 30.75m Pound, Just Couldnt Believe ManUtd Dont Wish To Spend 25.5m Pound On Da Proven Argentine Striker, At One Point Even Trying To Get Tevez For Free By Exploring European Laws.
Please Do Remember Tevez Is Younger 25, With Excellent Track Records v Clubs & Country. Berbatov?  sweat.gif
Sorry, I totally lost ur point from the bold part. Skillful and elegant, but what? So to say, if SAF were to buy another skillful and elegant player, he will be an utter failure? Please explain this part as well.

On ur last point, I believe Ryan Giggs would lose out to Tevez considering Wales are shite. Bulgaria? tongue.gif
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tevez knows even he stays, he also not 1st choice striker ...

the 1st choice still rooney-berbatov
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SAF bought Berbatov because we lack of establish striker, before Berbatov arrived, we only have Rooney and Tevez, which is obviously not enough in case one of them injured. We can't use Rooney-Tevez combo in every game, opponent will know our tactic and counter it, Berbatov give us a new dimension of attacking, even through i have to admit he does run slower but undeniable that his ball controlling is better Tevez

i won't say our striking fluidity is not there, those team already knew our weakness over a few season, and fatigue play a major role in last season, we had the most game in BPL team with Club World Cup and Super Cup

The fact is Ronaldo and Tevez already left, no point to argue over it again and again, i'll rather focus on the transfer market, most likely 2 major signing on forward and winger

and last, sorry for the harsh comment, was blood boiling when Tevez vs Berbatov issue raised up again
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benzema close to signing with us. trust me.
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Alah guys. Tevez is gone kan? So whats the fuss all about him.

Can you change anything about Tevez not being a red devil anymore? Guessed it.

So we'll have to look forward to SAF's signing, and usually, he'll know what to do.

Relax lar.

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Whats all the fuss with Ronaldo and Tevez leaving?

Great player come and go, but the name Manchester United never leave.

Remember that.
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spot on!! come on SAF, show us a signing.. a big one that would make us ask Tevez who? or Ronaldo who? tongue.gif
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Robin van Persie has rejected speculation linking him with a move away from Arsenal insisting he wants to stay at the club.

The Dutchman is yet to sign a new deal at Emirates Stadium, despite being locked in talks over a contract extension for the last few months.

Manchester United have been linked with a shock move for the forward, but van Persie plans to stay at Arsenal and is determined to establish himself as the best player in the world at the club.

"I'm not in negotiations with any other club - just Arsenal," van Persie told the News of the World.

"I want to become the best player in the world. My career will only be a success when I consider myself the best. Anything less won't do."
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The former Feyenoord star is confident Arsenal have the ability to be challenging for honours on a consistent basis.

"I see the potential at Arsenal. We have to do it," added van Persie.

"One fact which aggravates me is that in the five years I've been at Arsenal, we've won exactly the same number of trophies as I did at Feyenoord - ONE - that's not enough. When I arrived here, Arsenal were winning trophies for fun," he said.

"But, if everyone is fit, we have a heck of a team and it's up to me to ensure we go out and win these trophies."

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Van Persie plans Gunners stay
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Lol

"One fact which aggravates me is that in the five years I've been at Arsenal, we've won exactly the same number of trophies as I did at Feyenoord - ONE - that's not enough. When I arrived here, Arsenal were winning trophies for fun," he said.

At least, he talks sense with fact. laugh.gif
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Manchester United are weighing up a move for Toure Yaya, but they may not be able to prise him away from Barcelona until January, as he has only just penned a new deal with the club.

The Red Devils believe that the Ivory Coast international would provide the perfect cover for Owen Hargreaves and value the Blaugrana star at £25 million (€29.5m), according to The Mirror.

Having had the player watched last season, United were hopeful that Barca's move for Liverpool's Javier Mascherano would be successful and would leave Toure with a decision to make.

But instead, Barcelona have not made an official move for the Argentinian and have now persuaded Toure to pen a new deal to ward off any interested parties.

While the new contract may mean that he will not be leaving this summer, United could return in the winter transfer window if Barca do add to their midfield before August 30.

Toure's agent did state, in recent weeks, that his client had to feel appreciated, as well as well-paid at Barcelona, and that if both were not forthcoming, then he could leave.


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Toure Yaya may have just signed a new deal at Camp Nou, but that has not stopped him being linked with a move away...
hrm....  hmm.gif
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their creativity are limited this silly season. laugh.gif

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well looks like we back 2 square one...no beckham era...now is no ronaldo era...dang...i hope the streak won't end just like 6 years back not scoring and losing a lot
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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Jun 28 2009, 10:14 AM)
Wan, I can't remember when but I think at certain period of last season Fergie grew tired of Ronald not tracking back. That's why he played Ronaldo upfront and Rooney on the wing. Of course he has played Rooney on the wing prior to that, but I think there was a game where we concede a goal because Ronaldo lost the ball and did not track back, and that was the  reason Fergie stick to his decision playing Rooney on the wing. I can't remember which game though.
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For most of the last 2-3 seasons, Ronaldo have been playing in a sort of free role, only defending when needed. Rooney plays on the wings because we have better strikers than wingers. Only Ronaldo and Park could be relied on last season, and Park needed time off/was off form and we needed someone who can be dangerous and consistent there in his place.

QUOTE(nanamiwashio @ Jun 28 2009, 01:05 PM)
this is the reason why peoples hate MU fans...it's simply because they're denying fact & thinks that they all grow up beside of Manchester Hospital!

dude chill lah..this is opinion onli..why get angry?? of course i didnot watch much of MU games because i'm not MU fans..

but a diver is a diver laa...u can talk shiiaatt "he's not a diver bla bla bla" but i bet i can give u atleast 10 youtube videos of him diving like a sissy to get freekicks /penalties.
nah a simple examples i can give you : http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...arch_type=&aq=f

so many different videos there..

now try at youtube... type "messi dive"  that's the difference!!

i'm chelsea fans & i admit..drogba is one of the worst diver..not talking cock denying facts "we dont need to win in a disgrace way..." wateva

for tevez part...it's like what i said previously... rooney & tevez are the best 'turbo engine' for MU last season. and the simple reasons why fans love tevez more than berbatov is because he's a very productive hardworking man...it suits MU style...MU plays a very-fast attacking football ...so they need players like rooney-tevez-anderson who can round all the way in the pitch to get the ball..
this is MU ..not barca la weei...MU donot play free-flowing football..Berba needs to get down to work starting new season.not just wait for the ball...remember RVN?? of course we all know he's the kind of player who scores in the penalty box only...but look...where's he when defending?? when dead ball situation?? i remember one goal at OT where ruud runs from the middle pitch, dribble the ball and scores.

now i guess, u shud watch MU games more than me because u dont even know how ur team playing styles!!

well back to topic, Berba shud really proves his value or otherwise he's the next united flop.

p/s: i dont get here to provoke anyone..but chill lah. jangan semangat gila macam awak tu orang  manchester! stadium pun pergi skali dalam seumur hidup dah bangga macam orang gila..awak tu orang malaysia ooii


Added on June 28, 2009, 1:09 pm

not forget to mention that berba only joins MU at the very last day of first transfer window..

& the facts that he do not joins pre-season also might be the reason why he cant follow the styles of MU.that's why i said, we shud give him another season
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Ronaldo might have dived a lot in the past, but these days, he only went down when someone touched him. Whether that's a foul/dive is open to interpretation.

MU not free flowing? Where the hell have you been? Sure we might not pass it around as classy as the likes of Barca/Arsenal, but we're just as good in that department.

As for the Tevez and running issue, people are blinded by these 'running around' stuff. Sure they help the team a lot, but as we see with Ronaldo it doesn't always have to be that way, especially for attackers. Ronaldo can conserve his energy and focus it on attacking. He doesn't track back that much, and it's more of an order I bet, if not sure as hell SAF would be screaming at Ronaldo every match. Attackers don't need to defend as much, their job is to attack. It would be a bonus if they do it, which Tevez and Rooney does, but it's not a requirement, especially for strikers.

What's the difference if we've been there or not. Do you realize we live far away from that place? But what's that got to do anything with our support/how we feel for the club?

QUOTE(limshenghong @ Jun 28 2009, 01:50 PM)
nanamiwashio, Its Exactly What I Meant...
Guys, What Do I Mean in My Previous Post Was That
Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Is Better Than Rooney+Berbatov+Ronaldo Axis
I Believe It's Equivalent To Henry+Eto+Messi
I Just Found That ManUtd Have COmpletely Lost Da Striking Fluidity Ever Since Berbatov Arrivals
Even Sir Bobby Charlton Mentioned That Rooney+Tevez+Ronaldo Axis Is Da New Holy Trinity

Yes You Might Argue v Your Statistics About Tevez+Berbatov
Liverpool Have Better League Statistics Than ManUtd Last Season, As In Goals, Matches Lost Etc
Berbatov Is Very Skillful v Elegant Playing Styles. However His Style Doesnt Suit ManUtd, Dont You Think So?
If Berbatov Costs Us 30.75m Pound, Just Couldnt Believe ManUtd Dont Wish To Spend 25.5m Pound On Da Proven Argentine Striker, At One Point Even Trying To Get Tevez For Free By Exploring European Laws.
Please Do Remember Tevez Is Younger 25, With Excellent Track Records v Clubs & Country. Berbatov?  sweat.gif

Again tongue.gif , This Is Forum, Dont Have To Scold/Utter Bad Word Towards Tevez+Berbatov Comment,
Everyone Has Da Right To Share Opinion, Afterall We're ManUtd Fans Thanks. If You Disagree, Please just Share It, We're Here To Discuss icon_rolleyes.gif

P/s: Have Been Supporting ManUtd Since Standard 3 smile.gif It's Jz My 2 Cents As 15 Years Loyal Fan.
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We also had Scholes, Anderson, Nani, Ronaldo off form throughout whole of last season. That's a lot of attacking players who was off form at the same time. Take away the goals, and Ronaldo contribution would be pretty average for a world class player. I would say Berba have been a bit unlucky coming into a team who struggle to find consistency going forward whole season. It's nothing to do with him. Even with Tevez, we didn't look as fluid.
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I just love how oxymorons join this thread just to bash berba and slate fergie. What's more interesting is how this oxymorons claimed they've been supporting the club for like, years?

i guess morons will be morons. f*** all transfer muppets.
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Manchester United Planning Swoop For Barcelona's Toure - Report

Toure Yaya may have just signed a new deal at Camp Nou, but that has not stopped him being linked with a move away...
hrm....  hmm.gif
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Wow..25 million pounds for Yaya,a little heavy man.

Im still waiting for someone from the United camp to come out and say/show that they have genuine interest in getting a new striker/winger/CM.

So far,all we're seeing are speculations...
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wah we all been debating about tevez n berba...wch both had some contribution plus some bad spells/form etc etc....but both of them are not the center piece to take any blame nor fall for any mishaps.

what i see is the failure of fergie to revert rooney back to his desired position, his deadly and lethal position.imo thats what we are missing.last season yet again rooney took one for the team, the man is great player but his form suffers from.let him be an out and out striker and he can scare the bravest of defense.

big fab got it right and he did wonders wth england, i hope wth ronaldo gone, rooney will not be sacrificed again by pushed to all over the field.he is our most deadly asset as of now, and hopefully berba gets it right next season.

wth both of them we can go far, so we dont need the benzema's, nor the eto as of the moment.what we need is another winger, and 1 more att cm to cover for owen whom i do prey gets full recovery and comes back to the team.he was another player sorely missed last season.
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wah we all been debating about tevez n berba...wch both had some contribution plus some bad spells/form etc etc....but both of them are not the center piece to take any blame nor fall for any mishaps.

what i see is the failure of fergie to revert rooney back to his desired position, his deadly and lethal position.imo thats what we are missing.last season yet again rooney took one for the team, the man is great player but his form suffers from.let him be an out and out striker and he can scare the bravest of defense.

big fab got it right and he did wonders wth england, i hope wth ronaldo gone, rooney will not be sacrificed again by pushed to all over the field.he is our most deadly asset as of now, and hopefully berba gets it right next season.

wth both of them we can go far, so we dont need the benzema's, nor the eto as of the moment.what we need is another winger, and 1 more att cm to cover for owen whom i do prey gets full recovery and comes back to the team.he was another player sorely missed last season.
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How many games Rooney played out wide? Around 5 maybe? He still plays the majority of games upfront for us. If you want to blame someone, blame the other wingers for not being good enough last season that we had to play Rooney there some games, although in the big games it's more of a tactical decision..


Added on June 29, 2009, 8:57 amLooks like there will be news about Valencia today/next few days huh? He's turn out ok in my mind last few weeks. Fast, direct.. plays like a winger should. Welcome to the club Antonio.

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Manchester United sign Wigan's Luis Antonio Valencia for £16million
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...15875-21479492/

one down.... rclxms.gif two more to go??? rolleyes.gif
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How many games Rooney played out wide? Around 5 maybe? He still plays the majority of games upfront for us. If you want to blame someone, blame the other wingers for not being good enough last season that we had to play Rooney there some games, although in the big games it's more of a tactical decision..


Added on June 29, 2009, 8:57 amLooks like there will be news about Valencia today/next few days huh? He's turn out ok in my mind last few weeks. Fast, direct.. plays like a winger should. Welcome to the club Antonio.
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Fulham Pondering Swoop For Newcastle's Jonas Gutierrez - Report
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Fulham have joined the race to sign Newcastle United's Jonas Gutierrez, but they face stiff competition for the winger.

According to the Evening Chronicle, The Cottagers are hoping to bring the Argentine international in on loan, with an option to buy at the end of the season. Gutierrez is seeking a move away from St. James Park following Newcastle's relegation from the Premier League, in order to boost his chances of remaining in Diego Maradona's plans during a World Cup year.

However, Fulham face stiff competition for his signature. Their biggest threat comes from Porto, who might be a more attractive proposition for Gutierrez. In 30 games for Newcastle, he failed to score a single goal, and he may not be keen on another Premier League campaign. In addition, there is a strong Argentinean contingent at Porto.

Tottenham have also registered their interest in Jonas previously, but they have not shown any indication of a move for him yet.


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Fulham Pondering Swoop For Newcastle's Jonas Gutierrez - Report
Jonas could be offered a way out of Newcastle, but he is yet to be sold on a move to Craven Cottage...
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A good player for any middle-club. definitely not United standard.
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http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/200...15875-21479492/

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Sir Alex Ferguson returns to work tomorrow with £100m to spend - but Manchester United in a recruitment crisis.

Sunday Mirror Sport can reveal the United boss expected to have both Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez still at his disposal when he jetted out for his annual holiday in the south of France three weeks ago.

While United may have banked £80million from Ronaldo's world-record move to Real Madrid and saved a further £25.5m when Tevez decided his future did not lie with the Premier League champions, Ferguson has discovered that landing big names to pacify the Old Trafford fans has presented him with a major problem.

Karim Benzema, David Villa and Franck Ribery were the three men placed at the top of Ferguson's wish-list last week when it became clear Tevez would follow Ronaldo out of the club.

But all three have made it clear they want to reign in Spain rather than Manchester.

Benzema and Ribery have informed their clubs that, like Ronaldo, they see the Bernabeu as their ultimate destination.

They want to remain at their respective clubs Lyon and Bayern Munich for 12 months in a belief that Real Madrid adviser Zinedine Zidane will make good his promise to take them to the Spanish capital..

Villa has made it clear his future will be in Madrid or Barcelona and he will not consider a move away from Valencia even if United come knocking with money to burn.

Benzema is Ferguson's No.1 target and Lyon have started to send encouraging messages that the French international can be bought at the right price.

If an agreement between the clubs can be reached it would still need all of Ferguson's powers of persuasion to bring Benzema to Old Trafford with the World Cup approaching.

United are due to complete a move for Wigan's Antonio Valencia this week for about £18m, although it is unlikely Fraizer Campbell will move in the opposite direction as a makeweight now Sunderland have moved in for his services. Ferguson meets United chief executive David Gill - who also returns from holiday tomorrow - to discuss new recruits.

The players report back for pre-season training a week tomorrow and Ferguson will want to reinforce his squad before then.

He will also be seeking an explanation from Gill about why no offer was forthcom-into Tevez about staying at Old Trafford until his twoyear loan deal was a month away from ending.

A senior United insider said: "We were not willing to get involved in a bidding war with Manchester City and Chelsea for Tevez.

"Tevez's decision came as a surprise given the team's success in the two years he has been at the club."

SAF PENING KEPALA

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England & Manchester, are is always a last choice for the top player.
eventhough english club is a top form right now ... many player still preferred to play in spain or italy ...

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our wish list for the coming season

1. antonio valencia
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3. douglas cousta
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again, with the sky-high tax rate, who would come to play in England?
given that RM has started to offload their players, any Tom, d*** & H players would jump at the chance playing for RM, playing along side Kaka & CR, unless their childhood dream was to play for Man Utd or any other English team?

Now seems like Arsenal is in the race for Benz as well - doesn't that just make it more interesting? Working under a French coach and playing in a team full of French/french speaking players looks like a pretty good persuasion, minus the trophies of course as RVP & Fabregas have pointed out tongue.gif
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man utd will win bpl for another year..without CR7 n CT32 man utd still hav a lot of talentd player...don forget ENGLAND player of the year for euro cup OWEN HARGREAVES will be back in action..... tosic will prove to SAF tat he hav talent to cope wit CR7 departure.... at least 3 big signings will head to OT..... ribery ??? prefer RM rather than Man utd..so will be counted out...Benzema ??? not tat explosive n not goal machine......Villa ??? good choice but he prefer go to liverpool.....Cousta ???? too young for man utd first team....valencia ??? good at wigan but will be not a good gamble heading to man utd....


Man utd shuld sign...

Juventus giovonco ...great wingers ....still young n explosive will adopt in OT quickly....

AC Milan A.pato...still young n he proven tat he can be big player in AC milan.....he will hav good patnership wit rooney in attack..can play in FC position too

Inter milan.Z.imbrahimovic .. totally goal scoring stiker ....
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man utd will win bpl for another year..without CR7 n CT32 man utd still hav a lot of talentd player...don forget ENGLAND player of the year for euro cup OWEN HARGREAVES will be back in action..... tosic will prove to SAF tat he hav talent to cope wit CR7 departure.... at least 3 big signings will head to OT..... ribery ??? prefer RM rather than Man utd..so will be counted out...Benzema ??? not tat explosive n not goal machine......Villa ??? good choice but he prefer go to liverpool.....Cousta ???? too young for man utd first team....valencia ??? good at wigan but will be not a good gamble heading to man utd....
Man utd shuld sign...

Juventus giovonco ...great wingers ....still young n explosive will adopt in OT quickly....

AC Milan A.pato...still young n he proven tat he can be big player in AC milan.....he will hav good patnership wit rooney in attack..can play in FC position too

Inter milan.Z.imbrahimovic .. totally goal scoring stiker ....
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itu zlatan.. goin to cost us a bomb.. min price to buy him should be around 40 million pounds.. with this kind of price, we can sign sergio augerio easily.. but high risk as they are not proven player in EPL...later become flop like veron then KO

p/s: maybe someone try scout for a youngster called Alan Dragoev.. he is a wonderkid in the FM biggrin.gif

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man utd will win bpl for another year..without CR7 n CT32 man utd still hav a lot of talentd player...don forget ENGLAND player of the year for euro cup OWEN HARGREAVES will be back in action..... tosic will prove to SAF tat he hav talent to cope wit CR7 departure.... at least 3 big signings will head to OT..... ribery ??? prefer RM rather than Man utd..so will be counted out...Benzema ??? not tat explosive n not goal machine......Villa ??? good choice but he prefer go to liverpool.....Cousta ???? too young for man utd first team....valencia ??? good at wigan but will be not a good gamble heading to man utd....
Man utd shuld sign...

Juventus giovonco ...great wingers ....still young n explosive will adopt in OT quickly....

AC Milan A.pato...still young n he proven tat he can be big player in AC milan.....he will hav good patnership wit rooney in attack..can play in FC position too

Inter milan.Z.imbrahimovic .. totally goal scoring stiker ....
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For me, Giovinco = not a great winger, tricky...but nothing special...

A. Pato = Similar type of player to Rooney, plus Rooney is already established first team player club and country...

Ibrahimovic = Although skillful, he is not really a goalscorer. Not that brave in front of goal, given his height. Plus, he is not that young anymore, and

probably will cost too much, given that he is from Italian club, and Barca are interested in him.

Can't wait for any surprise signings! rclxms.gif tongue.gif
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if we sign aguero then he became a flop  sweat.gif so better get benz  tongue.gif
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eventho here in kl is hot, but for the sake of 18july i will wear it. icon_rolleyes.gif

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thanks, i bought a gift for myself... manutd white color jersey,  a hat with bells ( that they wear at the stadium, looks like clown  sweat.gif )laugh.gif  and a scarf.
eventho here in kl is hot, but for the sake of 18july i will wear it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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I think Benzema also overrated striker
look at the recent UCL, he didn't perform well
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still no news from official websites about the signing of valencia..

hm.. seriously i think we've overpaid, but who knows, SAF's the master
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we should sign Robinho....

great replacement for Ronaldo7....

he proved that he could adapt well to EPL...
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ROONEY: I CAN BE UNITED'S MAIN MAN

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Wayne Rooney believes he can compensate for the summer exodus of attacking talent from Manchester United - after admitting he has not been given the chance to shine so far at Old Trafford.

Key men Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez have left the Barclays Premier League champions since the end of the season.

Already, it has been suggested that Rooney must step up and fulfill his potential this season if United are to maintain their lofty standards of recent campaigns.

And the England striker feels more than ready to meet that obligation.

"We've lost two key players and obviously I hope we can get a few players in," Rooney told The Times.

"Between them Cristiano and Carlos scored a lot of goals for us last season and the season before, but I would like to think I'm capable of filling that gap.

"I've said before that, if I can play in my right position, I'm capable of doing that."


Rooney has often been asked to operate out wide by manager Sir Alex Ferguson since joining from Everton.

The Liverpudlian is adamant that has prevented him from showing his best form on a consistent basis, and believes the time is right to make a permanent switch to the centre.

"I want to play in the position where I feel I'm best," he said.

"A lot of people think I'm best as a centre forward.

"To play in a Champions League final and to play week in, week out for Manchester United is a privilege and it's something I'm very lucky to be doing, but I don't think playing on the wing I can express myself as much as I like to."


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I think Benzema also overrated striker
look at the recent UCL, he didn't perform well
less goal scored if you looked at last season UCL hmm.gif
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kinda agreed!! me think benz over value.. he is young n talented but i still rated him behind henry,anelka
even ex man utd to be tevez also i think better than him at moment
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haha, very obvious hint by Rooney.

But i think start new season he'll definitely start up front with Berbatov,

Our only 2 recognized striker,

Macheda as our subs striker on bench

@.@ a bit scary, suddenly like lack so many striker, Tevez, Ronaldo gone.
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we should sign Robinho....

great replacement for Ronaldo7....

he proved that he could adapt well to EPL...
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i believe we r closing to sign valencia

the 1st work that saf will do when enter the office today...
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I think Benzema also overrated striker
look at the recent UCL, he didn't perform well
less goal scored if you looked at last season UCL hmm.gif
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I somehow think so/think not too.

My opinion is in between lol

the French Ligue 1 and EPL, different standards.

But when we see Lyon vs Man Utd, he has strength.


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Benzema, Villa, Costa, Ribery, Silva, Young, Valencia, Aguero, Eto'o, Nilmar... the list of players supposedly on United's transfer radar lengthens by the day.

The media's scattergun approach to transfer speculation means that every glance at the morning tabloids yields a new exclusive, while the internet spawns and perpetuates fresh myths by the hour.

The sale of Cristiano Ronaldo, topping up Sir Alex Ferguson's transfer fund with an extra £80million, was the fabulists' dream situation - an entire summer with the licence to fill slow news days.

It makes for exciting reading, as a glance at our own What The Papers Say section can attest. Unfortunately, the upshot is that it all needs to be taken with a pinch of salt. There will be truth in some of the whispers, as the club's extensive scouting network always has recommendations and rarely does a transfer materialise without the media catching wind of it.

But the vast majority will be nothing more than bunkum. Will Villa swap Spain for England, just days after admitting that he would definitely be in his homeland next season? Would United move for the 27-year-old in the first place, or even Ribery (26) or Eto'o (28) for that matter?

And how about the fees involved? £50million for Aguero? It's near-impossible to imagine the club parting with a fee of that magnitude. Yes, records have tumbled before for the likes of Ferdinand, Berbatov and Veron, but Sir Alex and David Gill both have a stringent sense of value.

Just because Real Madrid can throw exorbitant amounts of money around, hoovering up players from all over the world, doesn't mean we will.

Ronaldo, Rooney, Anderson, Nani, the Da Silvas, Macheda, Park, Tosic, Vidic, Evra, Carrick. A quick glance over the club's transfer activity in recent years shows mainly players bought in their teens or on the right side of their mid-twenties for reasonable fees and subsequently developed.

When the signings come, the chances are that they will be in that same mould, rather than established superstars with inflated price tags. Anything that suggests otherwise, while entertaining, will be little more than fantasy.

The views expressed in this blog are personal to the author and do not necessarily reflect the opinions of Manchester United FC.


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such a true, when we have 100m to spend, every single player who wanna move out linked with us....
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jun 29 2009, 03:53 PM)
I somehow think so/think not too.

My opinion is in between lol

the French Ligue 1 and EPL, different standards.

But when we see Lyon vs Man Utd, he has strength.


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no doubt of his talent and strength especially his fast run with huge step.. also he is good with both leg n hv ability of taking free kick
i would love to see him playing for united.. SAF will definately make him better
it just i feel he kinda overprice at moment.. like ribery hmm.gif

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If the tabloids are to be believed, we're closing in on completing the deal for Valencia. I'll keep my judgement on the player reserved until I've seen him play with the team (debut against Malaysia? slurp). A tad bit overpriced but Fergie obviously sees something in him since he's been linked with us for quite some time now, and Brucey must have given his thumbs up on the player. Our future no. 7? Time will tell. He did okay against us last season (missed a one-on-one though, praise the kid) and is similar to Nani I feel.
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QUOTE(onepack @ Jun 29 2009, 03:23 PM)
kinda agreed!! me think benz over value.. he is young n talented but i still rated him behind henry,anelka
even ex man utd to be tevez also i think better than him at moment
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benzema is of course way better than tevez

teves is only good because he is hard working, running like mad guy after every ball...

benzema on the other hand is a good finisher...
he can strike the ball with both feet, he can hold the ball well, and he can run at defender....
he can great something out of nothing...
a great combination for a world class striker...!

i think SAF should just concentrate on signing valencia and benzema , and maybe another left winger....

sell of nani and get ribery!
that would be PERFECT!
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10.23 Sky sources understand that Antonio Valencia's move to Manchester United from Wigan is 'imminent', with a fee in the region of £17.5million said to have been agreed.
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If the tabloids are to be believed, we're closing in on completing the deal for Valencia. I'll keep my judgement on the player reserved until I've seen him play with the team (debut against Malaysia? slurp). A tad bit overpriced but Fergie obviously sees something in him since he's been linked with us for quite some time now, and Brucey must have given his thumbs up on the player. Our future no. 7? Time will tell. He did okay against us last season (missed a one-on-one though, praise the kid) and is similar to Nani I feel.
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valencia is not over priced

he is much more better than the show boy NANI
believe me....
wait for the start of new season, and you will see how good valencia is....
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QUOTE(w3er @ Jun 29 2009, 05:33 PM)
benzema is of course way better than tevez

teves is only good because he is hard working, running like mad guy after every ball...

benzema on the other hand is a good finisher...
he can strike the ball with both feet, he can hold the ball well, and he can run at defender....
he can great something out of nothing...
a great combination for a world class striker...!

i think SAF should just concentrate on signing valencia and benzema , and maybe another left winger....

sell of nani and get ribery!
that would be PERFECT!
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BPL is way better than french ligue.. thats a fact
benzema > tevez = at the moment maybe he is maybe he is not..
coz of his age yea he is more talented for sure

but to say tevez only good coz he is hard working? thats cruel man..
he also got skill la, good teamwork, passionate to win, good at making chaos at oppenent side and can score
personally i think he is great as supporting striker and definately gud enaugh to play for united or any big european club
yes i also want to see benzema playing for united someday.. lets pray together biggrin.gif

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Sky Sports News sources understand that Antonio Valencia could complete his switch from Wigan to Manchester United on Monday.

United are said to be close to completing the £16million deal with the Red Devils keen to replace the huge void left by the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

The 23-year-old is believed to be in Manchester undergoing a medical and the completion of the move is said to be imminent.

The Latics are set to make a massive profit on the winger after signing him on a permanent deal from Villarreal in January 2008 for a fee believed to be around £3million after enjoying 18 months on loan at the JJB Stadium.

The Ecuador international is unlikely to score as many goals as his Portuguese predecessor with just seven strikes in 89 appearances for the Latics.

However, his ability is not in doubt after three successful seasons in the Premier League.

Despite the big-money transfer it remains to be seen whether Valencia will handed the legendary number seven shirt at Old Trafford.


his price for me worth it, still young plus proven EPL

no 7 for him, may be not at the moment, he need to prove it at the moment to be no 7

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Valencia close to United deal
Winger set to complete switch to Red Devils on Monday


his price for me worth it, still young plus proven EPL

no 7 for him, may be not at the moment, he need to prove it at the moment to be no 7
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Lyon maintain they have not received any official offers for Karim Benzema despite him being linked with Real Madrid, Manchester United and Arsenal.

The 21-year-old striker is expected to leave France this summer in a big-money move, despite agent Karim Djaziri claiming the player wants to remain in his homeland to focus on the 2010 World Cup.

Rumour continues to link Real - who made enquires last week - and United with a bid in the region of £27million, while Arsenal are also thought to be tracking him amid reports Emmanuel Adebayor is to join AC Milan.

But Lyon director of communications Olivier Blanc is adamant there has been no bid for the forward and claims it would take far more than £30million to force any sale.

He said in L'Equipe: "We have not received any official offer for Karim, either from Madrid, Manchester or Arsenal.

"We had first contact with Real in the middle of last week.

"Anyway €32m (£27m) is not very realistic. If Madrid really made an offer, it would have been superior."


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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:31 PM)
if its more than 30m price, its NOT worth it, as he isnt proven

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I think Benzema also overrated striker
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still no news from official websites about the signing of valencia..

hm.. seriously i think we've overpaid, but who knows, SAF's the master
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If the reported 15m is true, I would say it's pretty cheap in todays market for an establish EPL winger. If the market is normal, that would be a fair price for him. See how much Carrick cost us. Almost similar stature.

QUOTE(Hevrn @ Jun 29 2009, 05:29 PM)
If the tabloids are to be believed, we're closing in on completing the deal for Valencia. I'll keep my judgement on the player reserved until I've seen him play with the team (debut against Malaysia? slurp). A tad bit overpriced but Fergie obviously sees something in him since he's been linked with us for quite some time now, and Brucey must have given his thumbs up on the player. Our future no. 7? Time will tell. He did okay against us last season (missed a one-on-one though, praise the kid) and is similar to Nani I feel.
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They're almost similar, but Valencia is more direct and maybe not as skillful. Nani like to wait then turn here and turn there while Valencia would just charge through.

QUOTE(w3er @ Jun 29 2009, 05:38 PM)
hahaha!
valencia is not over priced

he is much more better than the show boy NANI
believe me....
wait for the start of new season, and you will see how good valencia is....
as for nani....bit dissapointed with him already
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Valencia is more consistent. That's all. Nani have more talent IMO, but because he's not a regular, he can't show it.


Added on June 29, 2009, 6:44 pm

If he plays like that consistently, he would be a success here. He's no Ronaldo of course, and won't ever be as good, but he would still be a good player for us.

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 29 2009, 06:32 PM)
if its more than 30m price, its NOT worth it, as he isnt proven
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The same can be said about Huntelaar/E'to/Aguero/etc who never play in BPL, no? Some time we have to take some gamble to unearth the potential gems. Plus SAF has been doing ok in last few transfer's windows so not really worry much if we do get him.

QUOTE(Wan @ Jun 29 2009, 06:41 PM)

Added on June 29, 2009, 6:44 pmIf he plays like that consistently, he would be a success here. He's no Ronaldo of course, and won't ever be as good, but he would still be a good player for us.
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Apart from Messi & Kaka, no one will come close replacing CR in terms of the overall quality/package. But if Valencia can play like a traditional winger and putting in the crosses to assist our frontman (Rooney?) while chipping few goals himself, that will be a good start.

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if its more than 30m price, its NOT worth it, as he isnt proven
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yeah ... finally Manutd is considering a german . Manuel Neuer . i saw the highlights for Germany vs Italy match. this guy single-handily safe germany . Told you that manutd has send scouts to the tournament
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QUOTE(alien2003 @ Jun 29 2009, 06:51 PM)
The same can be said about Huntelaar/E'to/Aguero/etc who never play in BPL, no? Some time we have to take some gamble to unearth the potential gems. Plus SAF has been doing ok in last few transfer's windows so not really worry much if we do get him.

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30mil or more is such a big gamble.. even for club with 100mil transfer budjet tongue.gif
he is great n talented but still not star player yet.. and we already got 30mil striker already la
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Told you that manutd has send scouts to the tournament
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Those scouting reports are actually from the message board's members who watched the U21 tournament biggrin.gif

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Talking Reds scout BFC Samwell reckons the German keeper would be an ideal replacement for Edwin van der Sar...


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If we do sign Benzema, I wonder where Rooney will play.I think he's getting sick playing on the wing already. Unless 3 striker, which I highly doubt so.

I wish we could have just sign a player like Ole. Doesn't complaint, do his magic the team needs him, low profile, loyal....In other words, full package.
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Rooney, Berba and Benzema will rotate around, which what happens last season with Tevez instead of Benzema. And if the wingers didn't step up this coming season again, we will see Rooney out wide too. But even if we have wingers that perform well throughout the season, depending on our tactical approach(big games, CL), we may see Rooney out wide again. But a couple of games out wide shouldn't hurt so much.
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wtf??? u all hav no knowledge???? zlatan not goal scorer..did u see his record??? don u knw tat zlatan willing come to old trafford its jsut tat SAF dint approach him only...for someone tat don hav knwledge plz don bark here and act smart la.... giovonco totally a great signing for SAF... Didnt u knw rooney wan centre role in squad so tat giovonco will paly winger .....pato is teenager n became a top 11 in ac milan ... r u kidding me >>>> its proven tat he hav talent to become the greater... n he perform well in Brazil also....


Added on June 29, 2009, 8:34 pmbenzema will be a gamble for SAF...did u knw tat in france the defender very lousy wan...Benzema get the ball n just shoot like tat >>> in BPL can u do dat ??? J.terry ???? carrager???? campbell ..u think this defender noob????

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QUOTE(509307 @ Jun 29 2009, 08:30 PM)
wtf??? u all hav no knowledge???? zlatan not goal scorer..did u see his record??? don u knw tat zlatan willing  come to old trafford its jsut tat SAF dint approach him only...for someone tat don hav knwledge plz don bark here and act smart la.... giovonco totally a great signing for SAF... Didnt u knw rooney wan centre role in squad so tat giovonco will paly winger .....pato is teenager n became a top 11 in ac milan ... r u kidding me >>>> its proven tat he hav talent to become the greater... n he perform well in Brazil also....


Added on June 29, 2009, 8:34 pmbenzema will be a gamble for SAF...did u knw tat in france the defender very lousy wan...Benzema get the ball n just shoot like tat >>> in BPL can u do dat ??? J.terry ???? carrager???? campbell ..u think this defender noob????
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Im a Zlatan fan. And i would love to see him in a United shirt. But guess what,his playing style is somewhat like Berba,and that means,within 1 season,majority of the fans lurking in MUST will want him out.
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Zlatan is one great fwd player no doubt

but remember what the president say, he is valued at 90m price tag

thats ridiculous for a player at his age
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 29 2009, 09:18 PM)
Zlatan is one great fwd player no doubt

but remember what the president say, he is valued at 90m price tag

thats ridiculous for a player at his age
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I think IMO Zlatan is overrated, what has he done so far? Against us in the CL he was nowhere to be seen, even the young leftback for Inter (what is his name again) played better.

For that price, we can get better players such as Benzema or Aguero
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QUOTE(w3er @ Jun 29 2009, 05:33 PM)
benzema is of course way better than tevez

teves is only good because he is hard working, running like mad guy after every ball...

benzema on the other hand is a good finisher...
he can strike the ball with both feet, he can hold the ball well, and he can run at defender....
he can great something out of nothing...
a great combination for a world class striker...!

i think SAF should just concentrate on signing valencia and benzema , and maybe another left winger....

sell of nani and get ribery!
that would be PERFECT!
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tevez cant score with both feet? tevez cant run at defenders? tevez not strong enough to hold ball???? are u even watching the right United? Dont remember the points he contributed to our league cause? plz show respect.

''he can strike the ball with both feet, he can hold the ball well, and he can run at defender....
he can great something out of nothing...
a great combination for a world class striker...!''

im sure this can be used to describe Tevez.
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this old man is talking sh!t again
so mr old man...if u're not happy ith english club...how bout RM?
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is very unlikely SAF will sign a famous striker like Zlatan, the price will not be cheap as well
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Zlatan is talented no doubt, but 90m is way way above his price tag. He's about 25m,that'd be his real price tag.

SAF bila nak balik lol You bercuti lama sangat la. Wanna hear some news sad.gif
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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Jun 29 2009, 10:30 PM)
Zlatan is talented no doubt, but 90m is way way above his price tag. He's about 25m,that'd be his real price tag.

SAF bila nak balik lol You bercuti lama sangat la. Wanna hear some news sad.gif
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Yeah.. He doesn't score 42 goals a season, he's a true big game flop, not even close in winning the ballor d'or or the champions league with inter, how can he's priced at 90m? =,=

nooooob president biggrin.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(509307 @ Jun 29 2009, 08:30 PM)

Added on June 29, 2009, 8:34 pmbenzema will be a gamble for SAF...did u knw tat in france the defender very lousy wan...Benzema get the ball n just shoot like tat >>> in BPL can u do dat ??? J.terry ???? carrager???? campbell ..u think this defender noob????
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hehe, i remembered benz scored against us when we won the champions league season...so, rio n vida noob?hahaha..luckily tevez saved us by equalizing it...

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QUOTE(509307 @ Jun 29 2009, 08:30 PM)
benzema will be a gamble for SAF...did u knw tat in france the defender very lousy wan...Benzema get the ball n just shoot like tat >>> in BPL can u do dat ??? J.terry ???? carrager???? campbell ..u think this defender noob????
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have to see his international games and his games in CL.

different standards for him
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QUOTE(angel-face @ Jun 29 2009, 09:54 PM)
http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-l...y-with-English/
this old man is talking sh!t again
so mr old man...if u're not happy ith english club...how bout RM?
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stupid blatter. money doesn't guarantee success. take a good look at massive and ski and yeah RM. you can have all the stars in the world but still losing the league.

he hates english prem league. just say it. no need to hide behind the bush.
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I think IMO Zlatan is overrated, what has he done so far? Against us in the CL he was nowhere to be seen, even the young leftback for Inter (what is his name again) played better.

For that price, we can get better players such as Benzema or Aguero
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QUOTE(creap @ Jun 29 2009, 09:24 PM)
I think IMO Zlatan is overrated, what has he done so far? Against us in the CL he was nowhere to be seen, even the young leftback for Inter (what is his name again) played better.

For that price, we can get better players such as Benzema or Aguero
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RM spend 150million++ oredy lor.. How can he doesn't notist.. S*upid racist.. Hates england so badly  doh.gif
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I think what Blatter said is right regarding to the environment in the English league, not because i am an RM fan (which is very obvious). I mean, look at Man City, they can spend with all the money in the world, just because their owners are mega-multi-billionaires. It's not fair considering the money is come from their own wealth instead of footballing aspect. The sport is subjected to an industry, and this one to capitalism, and we all know that capitalism is not precisely quite equal, but it's the rules that we are playing with. While RM being criticized for spending big, they actually pursuing up a loan which can be covered by their assets. Football club in Spain like Barca are backed up by their members (or i can say the owners) which comprising to 142k of people as they has the rights to vote for their president. While the president is in charge, he has no rights whatsoever to fund his own wealth running through the club which is fair considering that he will only use the club's fund that are generated through various football revenue stream and settle the club debts with financial strategies etc. Unlike in England, the fans has no power regarding to their beloved club. Well, it's just what i think right now, i might be wrong. icon_rolleyes.gif

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stupid blatter. money doesn't guarantee success.
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 12:14 AM)
take a good look at massive and ski and yeah RM. you can have all the stars in the world but still losing the league.
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Still losing the league? the season is not even started for Perez's 2nd edition (2009-??) of Galacticos, or you are pointing out on the 1st edition (2000-06)? I thought RM won 2 La Liga and 1 CL with those superstars in the first three years before Makelele n Del Bosque left. icon_rolleyes.gif
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we can get both and add in valencia also for that price  doh.gif
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WTH? if u can get all 3 players for 90m its a steal.. daylight robbery
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Benzema for 30m, Valencia For 16m, and Aguero for 44m biggrin.gif
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tevez cant score with both feet? tevez cant run at defenders? tevez not strong enough to hold ball???? are u even watching the right United? Dont remember the points he contributed to our league cause? plz show respect.

''he can strike the ball with both feet, he can hold the ball well, and he can run at defender....
he can great something out of nothing...
a great combination for a world class striker...!''

im sure this can be used to describe Tevez.
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yes i agree with u that carlos tevez contributed alot to MU course...i never denied that

but in term of overall package...i can assure u that benzema is a whole lot better than tevez...

benzema can strike really well with his left foot, he can even score from outside the penalty box using his left foot...even though he is a right footed player
he is fast, and he can dribbles past defender and leave them behind

carlos tevez can only dribble around defender...

he is only 21,give him a few more years and i bet he will be as good as torres...or maybe even better!

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uk papers are full on valencia, claiming he is at carrington doing medical etc etc....so by 6pm today will we see an update on our official site stating the speculation in to truth???

will it be the first few millions of £ from teh jackpot to be spent??kita tunggu dan lihat laugh.gif
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I think what Blatter said is right regarding to the environment in the English league, not because i am an RM fan (which is very obvious). I mean, look at Man City, they can spend with all the money in the world, just because their owners are mega-multi-billionaires. It's not fair considering the money is come from their own wealth instead of footballing aspect. The sport is subjected to an industry, and this one to capitalism, and we all know that capitalism is not precisely quite equal, but it's the rules that we are playing with. While RM being criticized for spending big, they actually pursuing up a loan which can be covered by their assets. Football club in Spain like Barca are backed up by their members (or i can say the owners) which comprising to 142k of people as they has the rights to vote for their president. While the president is in charge, he has no rights whatsoever to fund his own wealth running through the club which is fair considering that he will only use the club's fund that are generated through various football revenue stream and settle the club debts with financial strategies etc. Unlike in England, the fans has no power regarding to their beloved club. Well, it's just what i think right now, i might be wrong.  icon_rolleyes.gif
I think you didn't understand what Mr Blatter trying to point out.
Still losing the league? the season is not even started for Perez's 2nd edition (2009-??) of Galacticos, or you are pointing out on the 1st edition (2000-06)? I thought RM won 2 La Liga and 1 CL with those superstars in the first three years before Makelele n Del Bosque left.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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What about the current crop of stars? Sneijder isn't a star? VDV? Robben?

What's the difference in having loans that can buy all the players that they want and have the money to buy all the players? Yes, you need to service the debt. What's wrong in having more money to buy ready made players? Need I pointed out on how RM has spent around £150m for both Kaka and Ronaldo only?

Blatter and co has been biased. No doubt. I found it strange when money was thrown like nothing for those two. Good for us, we have the £80m and £55m for Milan. No doubt that can help us clear the debt. But PL clubs also generating money by selling shirts and whatnot to the fans. What's the difference in what is RM doing?

So whenever any PL clubs are buying or selling out of the order price .. only Blatter and co make noises ah? I thought he could've have make noises like years ago when BIG PL clubs are being bought by Yanks or any other people. If Perez or whomever can play FM, why not these oil tycoons?


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Bro boxsystem, you're missing the point... Its not about spending the millions.. Nobody criticized much about the big money transfers as long as the club think its the right way to go..
Its the ownership thing.. Anybody with a good amount of assets can just come make a whoop of an english club.. If they are lucky, they are able to bring talent in by their enormous wealth...Only if they're lucky... Look at newcastle/ thaksin's city and chelsea to see the contrast... Even your team is owned by a family from the US who might not even have watched football before the acquisition... Maybe now they're forced to tongue.gif
All they want to is earn great sponsorship and great money thru marketing... They cant be bothered about what the real football fans think... they cant be bothered about beautiful football..they just want to generate profit..
And as a result? how many homegrown youngsters are coming through the ranks? especially your big 4? In this case, only aston villa could lead by example in this case, with a few worth mentioning young english talent...

And the never ending ownership disputes like in arsenal, liverpool, newcastle and ManC before the arab bailout... which is why this ownership thing, might not be as good as you think it is.. It might not be healthy for the club itself, and definitely not healthy for the sport as a whole...

I mean seriously, now you're sort of supporting english sides... But think about this, have u ever condemned the way chelsea sudden surge into prowess? not even once?? even when JM came and took the EPL?


THEREFORE
"So whenever any PL clubs are buying or selling out of the order price .. only Blatter and co make noises ah? I thought he could've have make noises like years ago when BIG PL clubs are being bought by Yanks or any other people. If Perez or whomever can play FM, why not these oil tycoons?"
is thoroughly flawed.

But you are right... Blatter is being biased.. Maybe he envies the marketable level of EPL... However, Perez is doing something he has once done, to much perfection and success... He's just trying to pull together another galacticos era... Everybody has his formula to success, and this time hopefully it doesnt work tongue.gif

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blatter is farking biased...he even defended the RM decision to splash big money to buy player but he bashed English club for doing so....i bet he never play football b4...
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blatter is farking biased...he even defended the RM decision to splash big money to buy player but he bashed English club for doing so....i bet he never play football b4...
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Its typical of Septic Bladder.. he will condemn English clubs till his death.. and he chose to close one eye on RM... Just hoping that he will be dethroned off the FIFA Presidency...
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VALENCIA % C.RONALDO

81% PASS COMPLETION 82% just as good passing and will get better with the quality of our players

44% DRIBBLE COMPLETION 33% even in a weak team he has got a better dribble completion than ronaldo

59 CROSSES 26 attempted more crosses than ronaldo with a lot more success

33% CROSS COMPLETION 16% a much better cross completion than ronaldo

87 TACKLES 13 attempted 74 more tackles than ronaldo

67 INTERCEPTIONS 17

3 BLOCKED SHOTS 4 a much more team player

12 CLEARENCES 4

81% TACKLE COMPLETION 80% a better tackler and he tracks back aswell

29 GAMES 31

14 SHOTS 58 someone else will have a chance to shoot with valencia on the pitch

3 GOALS 18 not a great goal scorer but thats where rooney and berbatov will come in because of his crossing ability

4 ASSISTS 6
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Blatter condemn BPL transfer when spending 30mil on a player
Ronaldo transfer to RM, he say is good for market, isn't that sarcastic?
is well known that Blatter and Platini don't fancy English club, maybe envy of BPL? wink.gif

talk about Television right, BPL share equally to the 20 clubs while La Liga on the other hand, those club negotiate for their own, which obviously small club has the major disadvantage, there is a huge gap between them
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FIFA president Sepp Blatter believes Cristiano Ronaldo should be allowed to leave Manchester United for Real Madrid and is a "modern slave".

The Portugal winger is one of the hottest properties in the sport after a superb season at Old Trafford last term and speculation about a move to the Spanish side has dominated the summer's transfer gossip.

There has been an ongoing war of whispers emanating from both clubs for several weeks and when asked about the protracted wrangle over the 23-year-old's future, Blatter insisted players should be allowed to leave with impunity when they want to move clubs.

"The important thing is, we should also protect the player," he told Sky News.

"If the player wants to play somewhere else, then a solution should be found because if he stays in a club where he does not feel comfortable to play then it's not good for the player and for the club.

"I'm always in favour of protecting the player and if the player, he wants to leave, let him leave."

Blatter believes the issue raises interesting questions about the way transfers and contracts are dealt with in the game.



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JOHANNESBURG (AP)—FIFA president Sepp Blatter says the transfer of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid shows soccer has a healthy market despite the global financial crisis.

The move “means that our product is still a good product. If this is the game of the people, they need stars,” Blatter said Friday ahead of the Confederations Cup.

Manchester United accepted a world-record transfer offer of $131 million for Cristiano Ronaldo on Thursday, clearing the World Player of the Year to negotiate personal terms with Madrid.

Blatter’s reaction contrasted with previous comments he has made about excessive spending for players and financial moves that could undermine the health of soccer clubs.

“OK, it is a lot of money, but he is performing,” Blatter said. “We are on a very sensitive market nowadays because there is an economic crisis. … In football, we are in still on the good market.”

Blatter said the transfer total was not really different from the sums exchanged for Brazil striker Ronaldo more than a decade ago.

“It was already $50 million more than 10 years ago,” he said. “So what is 80 million pounds now? That means there is still demand to have a star.”

The profits from the transfer of Ronaldo will not be used to service United’s debts, which have spiraled to almost $1 billion.

The return of Florentino Perez as Madrid’s president means the billionaire is willing to spend in an effort to return the Spanish side to its glory days.

Kaka was signed from AC Milan this week for a reported fee of about $92 million. But the offer for Ronaldo would eclipse that and the $65 million it paid to get former France striker Zinedine Zidane from Juventus in 2001.


stupid punya blatter laugh.gif laugh.gif

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to be fair i think people should understand what blatter really meant.. its not above spending power or big transfer money
he was talking bout the method of owning clubs in England putting the Premier League at an advantage compared to their major European counterparts

for long term future of football he may hv a point there.. imagine what happen to city n chelsea keep happening to other premier league team
imagine someone as rich or richer and dont mind spending their own money for transfer buying club like everton,villa,spur or the like of hull,boro,west brom

things are different elsewhere at other league.. but i still fan of BPL tongue.gif


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to be fair i think people should understand what blatter really meant.. its not above spending power or big transfer money
he was talking bout the method of owning clubs in England putting the Premier League at an advantage compared to their major European counterparts

for long term future of football he may hv a point there.. imagine what happen to city n chelsea keep happening to other premier league team
imagine someone as rich or richer and dont mind spending their own money for transfer buying club like everton,villa,spur or the like of hull,boro,west brom

things are different elsewhere at other league.. but i still fan of BPL  tongue.gif
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Perfectly understands what he meant. Regarding the ownership of the club. But let me just highlight one thing, they have elections in La Liga clubs while here, in England they have total ownership. When someone said there's no power to the fans they are dead wrong, out of nowhere there's FC United. And how people have been boycotting the Glazers when they came to United back then. Fans always have the last say. If there's no fan in Manchester, where would the support come from?

To be honest, I don't really give a damn if Pompey, Villa or whatever club is being bought by tycoons. They can afford it, so what? Fans will still be fans and supporters. As a matter of fact, this will help the club thus league being more competitive. Marketable? Hell yes! And this will attract big talents and names to come and play.

What Blatter or his BF Platini are doing is trying to kill English clubs. I don't see any difference when Perez or Abramowich is in charge of a club. Perez promises the fans to get this set of players and so does Abramowich. The only difference is the money source. I do believe that because of Abramowich, Chelsea has just step up and market their club better despite of glory hunters.

Big money transfers will kill the small clubs? Take a good look at Valencia. In Spain, I believe only Barca and RM have the most say over transfers while others are having problems in getting big names to play for them. Isn't the same scenario happens in any other leagues? So, what's wrong with tycoons buying smaller clubs. They chose EPL because it's marketable and it's in ENGLISH. Audience from all around the world can easily understand what are being saying and so on.

So, what's wrong with having an oil tycoon to pay for your club? They still have to generate money to cope with their losses. We've seen that with Chelsea. It's not like they aren't doing something about it. Funny how Blatter and Platini can talk so much while being biased on non-English clubs. 6+5 rule? Great idea but take a good look at current RM lineup? Or maybe Barca which barely even have 6 Spanish in their side. Toure, Henry, Messi, Alves and Eto'o aren't exactly Spanish are they?

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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 12:24 PM)
Perfectly understands what he meant. Regarding the ownership of the club. But let me just highlight one thing, they have elections in La Liga clubs while here, in England they have total ownership. When someone said there's no power to the fans they are dead wrong, out of nowhere there's FC United. And how people have been boycotting the Glazers when they came to United back then. Fans always have the last say. If there's no fan in Manchester, where would the support come from?

To be honest, I don't really give a damn if Pompey, Villa or whatever club is being bought by tycoons. They can afford it, so what? Fans will still be fans and supporters. As a matter of fact, this will help the club thus league being more competitive. Marketable? Hell yes! And this will attract big talents and names to come and play.

What Blatter or his BF Platini are doing is trying to kill English clubs. I don't see any difference when Perez or Abramowich is in charge of a club. Perez promises the fans to get this set of players and so does Abramowich. The only difference is the money source. I do believe that because of Abramowich, Chelsea has just step up and market their club better despite of glory hunters.

Big money transfers will kill the small clubs? Take a good look at Valencia. In Spain, I believe only Barca and RM have the most say over transfers while others are having problems in getting big names to play for them. Isn't the same scenario happens in any other leagues? So, what's wrong with tycoons buying smaller clubs. They chose EPL because it's marketable and it's in ENGLISH. Audience from all around the world can easily understand what are being saying and so on.

So, what's wrong with having an oil tycoon to pay for your club? They still have to generate money to cope with their losses. We've seen that with Chelsea. It's not like they aren't doing something about it. Funny how Blatter and Platini can talk so much while being biased on non-English clubs. 6+5 rule? Great idea but take a good look at current RM lineup? Or maybe Barca which barely even have 6 Spanish in their side. Toure, Henry, Messi, Alves and Eto'o aren't exactly Spanish are they?
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VALENCIA              %                  C.RONALDO

81%            PASS COMPLETION      82%        just as good passing and will get better with the quality of our players

44%          DRIBBLE COMPLETION  33%        even in a weak team he has got a better dribble completion than ronaldo

59                      CROSSES              26            attempted more crosses than ronaldo with a lot more success

33%            CROSS COMPLETION  16%        a much better cross completion than ronaldo

87                    TACKLES                13            attempted 74 more tackles than ronaldo

67                INTERCEPTIONS        17

3                  BLOCKED SHOTS      4            a much more team player

12                  CLEARENCES          4

81%          TACKLE COMPLETION    80%        a better tackler and he tracks back aswell

29                    GAMES                    31

14                    SHOTS                    58          someone else will have a chance to shoot with valencia on the pitch

3                      GOALS                    18  not a great goal scorer but thats where rooney and berbatov will come in because of his crossing ability

4                    ASSISTS                    6
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 12:24 PM)
Perfectly understands what he meant. Regarding the ownership of the club. But let me just highlight one thing, they have elections in La Liga clubs while here, in England they have total ownership. When someone said there's no power to the fans they are dead wrong, out of nowhere there's FC United. And how people have been boycotting the Glazers when they came to United back then. Fans always have the last say. If there's no fan in Manchester, where would the support come from?

To be honest, I don't really give a damn if Pompey, Villa or whatever club is being bought by tycoons. They can afford it, so what? Fans will still be fans and supporters. As a matter of fact, this will help the club thus league being more competitive. Marketable? Hell yes! And this will attract big talents and names to come and play.

What Blatter or his BF Platini are doing is trying to kill English clubs. I don't see any difference when Perez or Abramowich is in charge of a club. Perez promises the fans to get this set of players and so does Abramowich. The only difference is the money source. I do believe that because of Abramowich, Chelsea has just step up and market their club better despite of glory hunters.

Big money transfers will kill the small clubs? Take a good look at Valencia. In Spain, I believe only Barca and RM have the most say over transfers while others are having problems in getting big names to play for them. Isn't the same scenario happens in any other leagues? So, what's wrong with tycoons buying smaller clubs. They chose EPL because it's marketable and it's in ENGLISH. Audience from all around the world can easily understand what are being saying and so on.

So, what's wrong with having an oil tycoon to pay for your club? They still have to generate money to cope with their losses. We've seen that with Chelsea. It's not like they aren't doing something about it. Funny how Blatter and Platini can talk so much while being biased on non-English clubs. 6+5 rule? Great idea but take a good look at current RM lineup? Or maybe Barca which barely even have 6 Spanish in their side. Toure, Henry, Messi, Alves and Eto'o aren't exactly Spanish are they?
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highlight la liga hv election does not change the fact that english club hv an edge of total ownership different than other league club. if english club only compete in their own competition it will be no problem n fair but u got european club competition too..

as a fan i also dont give a damn bout tycoon buying other club.. that is why blatter is the president of FIFA while we just a fan of football. to attract big player coz of club statue, history, reputation, winning ability is definately positive but only coz of money that not good for football as a sport.

to say blatter trying to kill english club for me is just short minded, selfish and nonsense.. no different between perez or abramovich? then only difference is money source? hmm.gif

big money wont kill small club.. maybe only put pressure for them to keep competing against big club. tycoon choose english club not just coz its marketable and its english but also coz THEY CAN!! they cant buy other league club to hv total ownership and power elsewhere. its simply if u got the money u can be owner of a club

it not bout wrong or rite.. it his money its up to him la. it just not fair to other league and it could ruin or atleast change how football should be. correct me if i'm wrong but i think 6+5 rule the 6 is for homegrown not only countrymen. also chelsea still making losses.. abromovich want to win, city owner want to make the club biggest in manchester,england.., glazer want make money n keep running biznes. not possible one day super rich owner came just to hv fun and show his money..
this just my opinion.. TQ whistling.gif

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Valencia close to United deal

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"You cannot argue with Alex Ferguson," he said. "He is like the president of England. It is impossible. You always lose. But he made a mistake to leave me on the bench. That was the only final the team had lost since I had been at Manchester United."

Tevez has no regrets at rejecting the chance to extend his two-year stay at Old Trafford. "My family knows how much I suffered at United. I could not arrive home after a match or a training session and forget my pain. It was not good and I transmitted all my sadness to them."


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Can't he just shut up? Or, he is trying to win City fans now. mad.gif
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highlight la liga hv election does not change the fact that english club hv an edge of total ownership different than other league club. if english club only compete in their own competition it will be no problem n fair but u got european club competition too..

as a fan i also dont give a damn bout tycoon buying other club.. that is why blatter is the president of FIFA while we just a fan of football. to attract big player coz of club statue, history, reputation, winning ability is definately positive but only coz of money that not good for football as a sport.

to say blatter trying to kill english club for me is just short minded, selfish and nonsense.. no different between perez or abramovich? then only difference is money source?  hmm.gif

big money wont kill small club.. maybe only put pressure for them to keep competing against big club. tycoon choose english club not just coz its marketable and its english but also coz THEY CAN!! they cant buy other league club to hv total ownership and power elsewhere. its simply if u got the money u can be owner of a club

it not bout wrong or rite.. it his money its up to him la. it just not fair to other league and it could ruin or atleast change how football should be. correct me if i'm wrong but i think 6+5 rule the 6 is for homegrown not only countrymen. also chelsea still making losses.. abromovich want to win, city owner want to make the club biggest in manchester,england.., glazer want make money n keep running biznes. not possible one day super rich owner came just to hv fun and show his money..
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Big money kills small clubs. I wonder how can you claim something like that. Just take a good look on transfers activity. Big name players wouldn't want to come if lucrative offers aren't there, right? Take a good look at Barry. Last season he wanted out of Villa due to Champs League spot, yet this post-season he went to City which was placed 10th last season. Although, I would like to reiterate that big money DOESN'T guarantee successes. You still need good understanding among everyone in a club.

Why do you think arsenal fans are having problems with that bolded part? if that rule is being implemented(which of course, I don't have any problems with it coz United is safe), Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal will be having problems. Maybe even Barca and RM despite of many qualities in Spain. Read this statement below.

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Platini has recently backed the 6+5 idea, six home international players and five foreign players, to be introduced in top flight teams in Europe. Platini has also backed caps on wages, transfer spending - both absolute and as a fraction of club turnover - and foreign ownership of clubs.

Homegrown? Don't think so. The bolded part on wages and transfer spending? What do you make of RM now? They've gotta learn that FOOTBALL IS BUSINESS nowadays. Even they're(UEFA&FIFA) making money out of it. So, saying they're being biased towards English club are not so stupid and childish eh?

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i cant believe, its come from Tevez mouth

what the heck. even if he move to citeh, he wont get straight first team, some time he will be in the bench biggrin.gif
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i cant believe, its come from Tevez mouth

what the heck. even if he move to citeh, he wont get straight first team, some time he will be in the bench biggrin.gif
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Edwin van der Sar will hang up his gloves at the end of next season.

Manchester United's veteran keeper, 38, has discussed his plans with friends and family and will break the news to Alex Ferguson when he returns to pre-season training.
England squad man Ben Foster, 26, is now finally set to get the chance to shine.

A United source said: "Edwin has reviewed his options after each season and thinks this could be his last year. "He is determined to go out at the top and is raring to go next season."
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Valencia Passes Medical
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The Mirror and other tabloids claim Luis Antonio Valencia has passed a medical and will complete a £16million move to United today, taking over Cristiano Ronaldo's number seven shirt.


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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM)
What about the current crop of stars? Sneijder isn't a star? VDV? Robben?
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The current crop of stars also used to win the La Ligas

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM)
What's the difference in having loans that can buy all the players that they want and have the money to buy all the players? Yes, you need to service the debt. What's wrong in having more money to buy ready made players? Need I pointed out on how RM has spent around £150m for both Kaka and Ronaldo only?
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The difference is the source of the money, in case of RM, they covered it with their footballing assets. And what they did is a total investment, RM judge that CR n Kaka can add a lot of value to their business so they pay them accordingly.
Talent isn't necessarily rewarded in capitalism. The ability to add value is. The two often go hand in hand but insofar as they don't your criticism is really just one of capitalism, rather than football.

Here is the thinking from Florentino Perez

Here is a less presumptuous account of CR

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM)
But PL clubs also generating money by selling shirts and whatnot to the fans. What's the difference in what is RM doing?
I thought he could've have make noises like years ago when BIG PL clubs are being bought by Yanks or any other people. If Perez or whomever can play FM, why not these oil tycoons?
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM)
I thought he could've have make noises like years ago when BIG PL clubs are being bought by Yanks or any other people.
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I don't think there's a lot of rich owners in BPL years ago than now

QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM)
If Perez or whomever can play FM, why not these oil tycoons?
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jun 30 2009, 12:24 PM)
Perfectly understands what he meant. Regarding the ownership of the club. But let me just highlight one thing, they have elections in La Liga clubs while here, in England they have total ownership. When someone said there's no power to the fans they are dead wrong, out of nowhere there's FC United. And how people have been boycotting the Glazers when they came to United back then. Fans always have the last say. If there's no fan in Manchester, where would the support come from?

To be honest, I don't really give a damn if Pompey, Villa or whatever club is being bought by tycoons. They can afford it, so what? Fans will still be fans and supporters. As a matter of fact, this will help the club thus league being more competitive. Marketable? Hell yes! And this will attract big talents and names to come and play.

What Blatter or his BF Platini are doing is trying to kill English clubs. I don't see any difference when Perez or Abramowich is in charge of a club. Perez promises the fans to get this set of players and so does Abramowich. The only difference is the money source. I do believe that because of Abramowich, Chelsea has just step up and market their club better despite of glory hunters.

Big money transfers will kill the small clubs? Take a good look at Valencia. In Spain, I believe only Barca and RM have the most say over transfers while others are having problems in getting big names to play for them. Isn't the same scenario happens in any other leagues? So, what's wrong with tycoons buying smaller clubs. They chose EPL because it's marketable and it's in ENGLISH. Audience from all around the world can easily understand what are being saying and so on.

So, what's wrong with having an oil tycoon to pay for your club? They still have to generate money to cope with their losses. We've seen that with Chelsea. It's not like they aren't doing something about it. Funny how Blatter and Platini can talk so much while being biased on non-English clubs. 6+5 rule? Great idea but take a good look at current RM lineup? Or maybe Barca which barely even have 6 Spanish in their side. Toure, Henry, Messi, Alves and Eto'o aren't exactly Spanish are they?
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Fans in England will always have the say, but do they have the powers?

I don't think they want to kill English clubs, they just want to change how the ownership works. Chelsea can have all the money in the world despite being in debt, thanks to Abramovich.

Valencia is not a small club, they are the 3rd most popular club in Spain and they can be a big club just like Barca or RM with economic strategies. RM for instance, before Perez take over the club back in 2000, they were in a huge debt and their financial is in a mess despite won 2 CL in a span of 5 years under the presidency of Lorenzo Sanz. When Perez become the president, between him taking over as Real president in 2000 and leaving in 2006, the club’s income increased from €100m a year to €300m; in the club wealth standings, Real rose from 18th to first. Perez could not have done it without his galacticos, without breaking the world transfer record with the purchase of Zidane.

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rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  yay valencia
next benzema biggrin.gif
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maybe huntelaar.. people comparing his style of play with RVN. with ron out maybe that what we need now
certainly be happy to hv another RVN with united
benzema if no more than 30mil
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Edwin set to call it a day
Foster or Kuzczak better step up.. If not, must look for another goal keeper  doh.gif

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Valencia Passes Medical
Valencia 7?  rclxms.gif

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Sir Alex Ferguson blew Manchester United's chance in the Champions League - Carlos Tevez

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Manchester United are inching closer to making Antonio Valencia their first signing of the summer.

The Wigan winger has cut his summer break short to try and complete his move to Old Trafford.

And the £16m deal is expected to be confirmed this week as Sir Alex Ferguson begins the task of spending the world record £80m fee United have just banked for the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo.

They hope Valencia, who scored just three Premier League goals last term, might be able to replicate the pace and dribbling ability of Ronaldo. However, getting anywhere near his goals output might be far more difficult, a factor emphasised at the JJB Stadium last month when the Ecuador flyer missed a sitter in the defeat to United.

Certainly most United fans - and probably Ferguson himself - would be disappointed if there were not further signings by September 1 given the problems he is juggling with.

As well as Ronaldo, the loss of Carlos Tevez, seemingly bound for rivals Manchester City, leaves another gap.

Karim Benzema has been touted as a potential replacement but has already given vibes he may prefer to go elsewhere, and even then in another year's time.

Klaas-Jan Huntelaar is another option but the Dutchman is more of a Ruud van Nistelrooy-type figure and Ferguson has been building his teams in a different way of late.

At the back of Ferguson's mind will also be the knowledge Ryan Giggs, Paul Scholes and Edwin van der Sar are all preparing for what is expected to be their final season of top-flight action, with Gary Neville not far behind.

Twelve months ago, United appeared to have the replacements in place but doubts have emerged over Nani, Anderson and Ben Foster, leaving Ferguson with more big decisions to make.

There are further question marks over midfielder Owen Hargreaves, who is hoping to return from two years wrecked by a tendinitis problem, and record signing Dimitar Berbatov, who was inconsistent in his debut season.


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Sir Alex Ferguson blew Manchester United's chance in the Champions League - Carlos Tevez

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QUOTE(Wan @ Jun 30 2009, 01:31 PM)
He will get the #24 jersey.. you know what that means.

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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jun 30 2009, 05:08 PM)
LV7... Luis Valencia  biggrin.gif

Or LAV7.. Luis Antonio Valencia  sweat.gif
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LV=Louis Vuitton or Luis Valencia? biggrin.gif
1st pre-season friendly match against Valencia..so its Valencia7 vs Valencia CF rclxms.gif

quite surprised he's getting the no.7..SAF must have faith in him..he must show his qualities to be the right man to wear #7.. notworthy.gif

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Lyon coach Claude Puel has admitted the club could let Karim Benzema leave if he wants to.

The 21-year-old is one of the world's hottest properties at the moment, with Arsenal, Manchester United, Inter Milan and Real Madrid among the clubs reportedly considering a 40million euro (£34million) bid.

Both Lyon and Benzema have always claimed he will remain at the Stade Gerland at least until next summer's World Cup, but Puel knows that could swiftly change.

"We know his importance at OL and his efficiency in our squad," Puel told the club website. "He's an exceptional player, but we also know the financial figures of the club.

"We will evaluate the situation with him when he comes back - July 2 - what he wants to do, we'll listen to him.

"For several months he has said that he wishes to stay with us for the year before the World Cup.

"If he has any dreams of leaving we will discuss them with him if there are any concrete offers, which is not the case at the moment.

"So there is no 'Benzema problem' because the player is still with us. Ahead of a transfer which could be out of the ordinary, there is everything to consider."

Puel insists, however, that Benzema will only leave if the club manage to line up a suitable replacement.

"We will study the situation if it happens to present itself," he continued. "This doesn't mean that he will definitely leave Lyon.

"For any coach it would be a great loss to lose Karim. It would mean that we have to replace him - therefore it would be out of the question to lose Karim if one or two players of his calibre were not coming in."

Benzema came through the ranks with the French giants and burst onto the scene in the 2007-08 season with 31 goals in 51 games, a streak that saw him named Ligue 1 player of the year as well as top the league's scoring charts.

The last campaign was less impressive for both club and player, as Lyon ended the season without the Ligue 1 title for the first time in eight years, but the France forward nevertheless scored 23 goals in all competitions - an average of a goal every other game.


http://www.sportinglife.com/football/trans...ER_Benzema.html

Puel coy over Benzema future

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Lyon manager Claude Puel has confirmed that the club have not received any offers for Karim Benzema although he refused to rule out a sale if a big bid came in.

With Real Madrid, Barcelona, Manchester United and Arsenal all linked with the 21-year-old the transfer saga threatens to roll on over the whole summer.

The striker himself has accepted that he will leave the Ligue 1 side at some point but has expressed a desire to remain in France for one more season at least.

Amid all the speculation Puel stated that the supposed quartet of interested clubs had yet to make a formal approach for the France international and the situation would hopefully be resolved once the player returns from holiday on Thursday.

"We know how much Karim is important to our game and we know the financial data of our club," he told L'Equipe.

"We will take stock on July 2nd when he will come back from holidays. So far he has always said he wanted to stay with us, at least until the 2010 World Cup.

Nothing concrete

"We will listen to Karim, to his desire. Then maybe it will go further. So far there is nothing concrete and we didn't set any price for Karim. He is not to sell.

"If he would have a desire to leave, we would see if there would be any concrete offers, which is not the case at the moment. Anyway that won't mean Karim will leave.

"The departure of Karim, above all after the departure of Juninho, would be a loss. He is an exceptional player.

"We can lose him if we replace him with one or two players of his level. We have to make sure the group improves."


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i cant believe, its come from Tevez mouth

what the heck. even if he move to citeh, he wont get straight first team, some time he will be in the bench biggrin.gif
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Former Wigan Athletic manager Chris Hutchings believes Antonio Valencia has the credentials to slot seamlessly into United's first team.

The British tabloids are convinced the Ecuadorian winger will leave the Latics and join Sir Alex Ferguson's side in the near future, becoming the club's first signing since the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo.

While the Portuguese winger's massive contribution will inevitably be missed, Hutchings is convinced that Valencia is good enough to make the grade at Old Trafford.

Hutchings told the Evening Post: "I have always believed Antonio could quite comfortably slot into one of the top teams in the world, and go on to perform at the very highest level.

"He has got everything – very good pace, he crosses a good ball and he is a very intelligent player. He can also play inside or off the two strikers as well as playing out wide. We could see the potential then and he has gone on to play exceptionally well for Wigan.

"That has led to interest from clubs like Manchester United and Real Madrid – which shows exactly what a gem Valencia turned out to be."

Should he validate the tabloids' soothsaying and complete the short move to Manchester, Valencia will quickly assimilate to life on and off the pitch in M16, according to Hutchings.

"Antonio is a bright footballing man and he picks things up very quickly," he said. "He understands the game and other players can see what a good player he is. His attitude at all times is also excellent.

"He works very hard and he is a top professional who was very popular in the dressing room during my time at Latics and will join in with everything.

"If the lads would organise a go-karting trip he would throw himself into that, and I think that is very important for foreign players to do – to try to become a member of the squad off the pitch as well as on it.

"It's difficult when you don't speak the language but he was one who always went along to every event and always had a smile on his face.

"If he could look to improve an area of his game it would be his goals tally, but it does take time for foreign players to come over here and settle down completely."
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Hurm when will United confirm the signing of Valencia hmm.gif

Exciting month coming ahead rclxm9.gif

Let's all pray SAF will make the best signings for the club..

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Sir Alex Ferguson blew Manchester United's chance in the Champions League - Carlos Tevez

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not VL7 lah
AV7

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Looks to me like a matured version of Nani...
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QUOTE(akkmutd0711 @ Jun 30 2009, 08:36 PM)
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I preferred the word matured more than old, perhaps SAF is planning on reformulating Yorke-Cole kind of partnership in the wings dept for Nani and Valencia.
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Apa ni! Louis Vutton! laugh.gif

It's AV, Antonio Valencia la bro!
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Internacional Do Not Want To Sell Manchester United Target Nilmar
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Sir Alex Ferguson may have to look elsewhere, as Internacional are not receptive to selling their prized asset.

Manchester United have emerged as a potential destination for striker Nilmar, 24, as the club begin their quest to find candidates who can help fill the void left by Cristiano Ronaldo, however, Internacional appear unwilling to sell.

Nilmar has already embarked on one lucrative European transfer in the past, when he signed by Ligue 1 powerhouse Olympique Lyonnais, but the Brazilian flopped badly, scoring just twice in the league.

Internacional vice-president Fernando Carvalho, though, has today explained that the player is not for sale and that United are yet to even make contact about cementing their admiration.

"We have not received any bid from Manchester United for Nilmar. However, we do not want to sell him," Carvalho is quoted to have told the press.

Red Devils boss Sir Alex Ferguson is reported to have sent scouts to watch Nilmar in action during the Confederations Cup. If the Scot were to swoop, then Nilmar would join a growing clique of Brazilians at Old Trafford, which includes Anderson, Fabio and Rafael da Silva, and Brazilian-born Italian Rodrigo Possebon.


Sos Nilmar

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Why does SAF nowadays go for South American players? Not that I don't prefer them or anything, but I'd wanna see more European players :S?
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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:55 PM)
Why does SAF nowadays go for South American players? Not that I don't prefer them or anything, but I'd wanna see more European players :S?
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just take the bafanabafana guys. some of them are talented oso
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but skang no need lah. just scout them only blush.gif

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QUOTE(headhunter7 @ Jun 30 2009, 11:55 PM)
Why does SAF nowadays go for South American players? Not that I don't prefer them or anything, but I'd wanna see more European players :S?
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QUOTE(Shin1022 @ Jul 1 2009, 12:16 AM)
i would say the south americans do have a tougher mentality compared to the europeans due to the harsh conditions eg:poverty they have suffered since childhood and made them mentally tougher...
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i would say the south americans do have a tougher mentality compared to the europeans due to the harsh conditions eg:poverty they have suffered since childhood and made them mentally tougher...
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Nooope.

I don't think it's mental-wise.

I think because SAF believes in technicality of these Brazilian talents.

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papers again rife wth valencia, so will he??will he not??? biggrin.gif


any who its high time we seek local talents instead of hoping for abroad ones, we dont want to turn to a certain "meriam buruk" alike when it comes to our players.
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The midfielder is confident that his team-mate will go to England this summer...

Miralem Pjanic has revealed that his Lyon team-mate Karim Benzema is close to joining Manchester United.

The forward has been linked with a move away from Lyon this summer and even numerous claims from his agent that he will stay has not quelled the speculation.

Now, Pjanic has told sportsport.ba that he thinks it is just a matter of time before Benzema moves to England.

"Benzema is nearly gone to Old Trafford. The English club are willing to pay €45 million for him and it is just a question of the day when he will move to England," he said.

"He does not have anything against going to Manchester. Our side will be reinforced by Lisandro Lopez, the Argentine forward from Porto."

Certainly Benzema seems like an ideal signing for United as the club will lose the goals that attacking midfielder Cristiano Ronaldo provided.

At the age of 21, Benzema is widely regarded as one of the best forwards in Europe at the moment and whilst Lyon will not let him leave on the cheap, they have already admitted they might be powerless to keep him.

SOS Benz Is Coming!


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ini nama pun mcm susah mau percaya wakaka laugh.gif

so take wth a "jar" of salt biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(mhyug @ Jul 1 2009, 01:20 AM)
ini nama pun mcm susah mau percaya wakaka laugh.gif

so take wth a "jar" of salt biggrin.gif
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I am quiet confident that Benzema will be coming even without a reliable or proper source.
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GUYS! ----> http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...14}&newsid=3061

we have valencia!

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QUOTE(irving @ Jul 1 2009, 02:10 AM)
GUYS! ----> http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...14}&newsid=3061

we have valencia!

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Benz is the next one!! icon_idea.gif
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hopefully la. i heard he prefers arsenal. i just hope we get a good partner for rooney. benz or fabiano would be great biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(irving @ Jul 1 2009, 02:18 AM)
hopefully la. i heard he prefers arsenal. i just hope we get a good partner for rooney. benz or fabiano would be great biggrin.gif
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out of equation, his age is the main hindrance

benz prefers arsenal? come on....if he wants to win trophy, United will be the choice tongue.gif
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16 million pounds??? sweat.gif

23 year old; right winger; scored 3 goals last season for wigan; anybody knows how many goals he assisted? let's hope he produce the goods this season!

Welcome Valencia!

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,1...5408317,00.html

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out of equation, his age is the main hindrance

benz prefers arsenal? come on....if he wants to win trophy, United will be the choice tongue.gif
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its not that benz doesnt like winning trophies, but you have to talk about playing style, and most important of late - location. i think a young player would prefer the life in london than manchester. and also arsene wenger, who is french.

but i shouldnt be doubting our team's pulling power. so i do hope benz does sign for manutd icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(tchiaming @ Jul 1 2009, 03:01 AM)
16 million pounds???  sweat.gif

23 year old; right winger; scored 3 goals last season for wigan; anybody knows how many goals he assisted? let's hope he produce the goods this season!

Welcome Valencia!

http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,1...5408317,00.html
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of course.. we are man utd.. we don't sign players for 5million pounds biggrin.gif thumbup.gif
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i think saf is a huge MJ fan.. we got 2 jackson now..
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Valencia? Checked!
Benzema? Next ...

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QUOTE(irving @ Jul 1 2009, 02:10 AM)
GUYS! ----> http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...14}&newsid=3061

we have valencia!

sos from manutd.com
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i think saf is a huge MJ fan.. we got 2 jackson now..
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Miralem Pjanic claims Lyon team-mate Karim Benzema is close to completing a £38million move to Manchester United.

Benzema has been a long-term target for United, with Lyon prepared to listen to offers if the France international expresses a wish to move.

Reports had previously claimed that Benzema was willing to spend one more season with Lyon in order to maximise his prospects of playing at the 2010 World Cup.

However, he could now be on his way to Old Trafford after Pjanic revealed the 21-year-old is ready to link up with the Premier League champions.
Nearly gone

"Benzema is nearly gone to Old Trafford," Pjanic told Bosnian website Sportsport.

"The English club are willing to pay €45million (£38million) for him and it is just a question of the day when he will move to England.

"He does not have anything against going to Manchester. Our side will be reinforced by Lisandro Lopez, the Argentine forward from Porto."

Real Madrid and Arsenal had also been linked with the striker, but it appears United have won the race to sign the coveted Benzema.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is striving to replace Carlos Tevez following the end of the Argentine's two-year loan and Benzema looks to be his top target.

Ferguson has money to spend following the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid and wrapped up the signing of Antonio Valencia from Wigan Athletic on Tuesday evening.


Fingers crossed guys! drool.gif
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welcome to ot valencia, as expected.


Added on July 1, 2009, 4:56 ambtw he will be joining the lads for pre-season and i think he will follow the team for the asia tour.so 1st of many autographs ehh biggrin.gif

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Lyon schemer claims team-mate is heading to Old Trafford

Miralem Pjanic claims Lyon team-mate Karim Benzema is close to completing a ?8million move to Manchester United.

Benzema has been a long-term target for United, with Lyon prepared to listen to offers if the France international expresses a wish to move.

Reports had previously claimed that Benzema was willing to spend one more season with Lyon in order to maximise his prospects of playing at the 2010 World Cup.

However, he could now be on his way to Old Trafford after Pjanic revealed the 21-year-old is ready to link up with the Premier League champions.

Nearly gone
"Benzema is nearly gone to Old Trafford," Pjanic told Bosnian website Sportsport.

"The English club are willing to pay €45million (?8million) for him and it is just a question of the day when he will move to England.

"He does not have anything against going to Manchester. Our side will be reinforced by Lisandro Lopez, the Argentine forward from Porto."

Real Madrid and Arsenal had also been linked with the striker, but it appears United have won the race to sign the coveted Benzema.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is striving to replace Carlos Tevez following the end of the Argentine's two-year loan and Benzema looks to be his top target.

Ferguson has money to spend following the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid and wrapped up the signing of Antonio Valencia from Wigan Athletic on Tuesday evening.

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jul 1 2009, 02:01 AM)
As same as Ljajic. So i guess, Pjanic is a Serbian as well.

I am quiet confident that Benzema will be coming even without a reliable or proper source.
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as long as he is a good goal creators and throw in a lot of good crosses to Rooney and Berbatov...i don't mind..hahaha
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finally deal done for valencia... good one The Boss just back from holidays nia straight got 1st signing liao..so does valencia got the no.7 jersey? or that one reserve for benzema..really hope he will come..make right choice like berba come here 1st season win premier league thumbup.gif
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if benzema were to come, i'ma get the jersey with benzema's NN on it. i dun care how ugly is the ultraman Tiga thingie.
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QUOTE(tchiaming @ Jul 1 2009, 03:01 AM)
16 million pounds???  sweat.gif

23 year old; right winger; scored 3 goals last season for wigan; anybody knows how many goals he assisted? let's hope he produce the goods this season!

Welcome Valencia!

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A really top fullback cost around 18m before this season. But recently a fullback just below that level went for that much. And that's only the fullback. 16m would really only be around 12m mark in normal market. But even if they do rate him at that amount in normal circumstances, it's no different to what we paid for Carrick. It's a fair price IMO for an establish winger in the EPL.

As for Benzema, it really get me excited.. although I don't really want a player of his calibre(top striker/potentially going to be) being bought. It's not that I don't want him but I feel with Roo and Berba as 1st choice we only need a backup/squad striker(a level below the top strikers). But I guess I won't mind if he does come. Nobody would refuse a top player right?
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Benzema's coming?


HEE HEE

Can't wait. But what number will Benzema wear?

NUMBER PREDICTION TIME
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 09:41 AM)
A really top fullback cost around 18m before this season. But recently a fullback just below that level went for that much. And that's only the fullback. 16m would really only be around 12m mark in normal market. But even if they do rate him at that amount in normal circumstances, it's no different to what we paid for Carrick. It's a fair price IMO for an establish winger in the EPL.

As for Benzema, it really get me excited.. although I don't really want a player of his calibre(top striker/potentially going to be) being bought.  It's not that I don't want him but I feel with Roo and Berba as 1st choice we only need a backup/squad striker(a level below the top strikers). But I guess I won't mind if he does come. Nobody would refuse a top player right?
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i guess ur rootin for carrick + fletcher in cm eh bro? valencia/nani/park/tosic for d wings, but still, we're abit short in striker department, aren't we? benzema is gud but if he'll come with crazy price tag, i'm gonna agree w u that we just need a team player who dun mind to be on bench regularly. smile.gif

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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 09:41 AM)
A really top fullback cost around 18m before this season. But recently a fullback just below that level went for that much. And that's only the fullback. 16m would really only be around 12m mark in normal market. But even if they do rate him at that amount in normal circumstances, it's no different to what we paid for Carrick. It's a fair price IMO for an establish winger in the EPL.

As for Benzema, it really get me excited.. although I don't really want a player of his calibre(top striker/potentially going to be) being bought.  It's not that I don't want him but I feel with Roo and Berba as 1st choice we only need a backup/squad striker(a level below the top strikers). But I guess I won't mind if he does come. Nobody would refuse a top player right?
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Cue the "they've got a 30+ million pound striker on the bench! Not fair!" excuses. I do agree that Valencia is a tad bit overpriced, but its common knowledge around Europe that we're currently fat with cash thx to the Ronaldo sale and all our potential sellers are quoting marked up prices to milk us for all we can. Still, 16million for an Ecuadorian. Is that a record for them? Might still be time for more shopping, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was the only player we get this summer.
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Welcome antonio...as giggs replacement i think not ronaldo
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Benzema's coming?
HEE HEE

Can't wait. But what number will Benzema wear?

NUMBER PREDICTION TIME
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haha fingers crossed.

hopefully he'll come, prolly we can do a 4-3-3?

Benzema Berbatov Rooney
Anderson Carrick Fletcher
usual back 4 and GK

Seems world class up front, but maybe a bit lacking in midfield.

What you guys think?
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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Jul 1 2009, 09:58 AM)
Welcome antonio...as giggs replacement i think not ronaldo
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Nani and Valencia might have to do a dance-off to determine who will replace Ronaldo.
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QUOTE(onemanshows @ Jul 1 2009, 09:59 AM)
haha fingers crossed.

hopefully he'll come, prolly we can do a 4-3-3?

Benzema Berbatov Rooney
Anderson Carrick Fletcher
usual back 4 and GK

Seems world class up front, but maybe a bit lacking in midfield.

What you guys think?
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QUOTE(Valencia)
"I've worked hard for 3 years to get to a top club in Europe, and now I'm happy joining United.



"I'm going to work very very hard to represent my family and all the ecuatorian people that wants to see me succeed"


"I want a lot of things: want to work hard, I want to sucdeed. I hope to stay plenty of time here, although I know it's not easy. I'm going to do things right because they trust me and that's why they have signed me"



"I passed the medical and I've signed for 5 years, my presentation will be in some minutes, when the Page Rankigánctica (?), with a simple ceremony"


"I come with the ilusion of being a starter and to win my place with each trainning with the club and team-mates"

"When I came to Wigan I was told to evaluate the possibility of being a starter, and that possibly the ebst would be to remain in Huelva, but with work and effor I proved I could be a starter"


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"I hope the fans at Wigan can understand that I am an ambitious guy and a chance like this might never come again for me

"I am happy that the club has benefited from the move financially because I owe Wigan such a lot. I have had a great time here.

'It was Paul Jewell who first took a chance on me and gave me the opportunity to play in England. Chris Hutchings and Steve Bruce helped me to progress and it is a shame I won`t get the chance to work with Roberto because he is a great young manager and I`m sure his style of football would have suited me.

"I hope and pray that he will help Wigan progress because this is a great club that really gave me my chance."

Seems like a nice lad.


Added on July 1, 2009, 10:11 amValencia on the right, Nani on the other. They both gonna rotate with Park.

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Holy crap, I forgot about Jason.

Eep! Who do we have on the wing right now actually?

Jason, Nanny, Valenthia, Tosai, Fletcher, Ronal- oh wait.
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IMHO, benzema would be a good additional to the team. we can't always depend on Rooney and Berba upfront. touch wood incase of injuries, and also as we all know, the amount of games that we're gonna have to play. rotation is inevitable!

prior to this we have CR7 as a striker as well, hence we have 4 strikers to rotate. since now CR7 and tevez is gone, i think we really need an additional striker like benzema. i know kiko and welbeck are both good as well, but perhaps they can come in for Carling Cup games or BPL games that we've sealed the deal.
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The more I look at that clip, the more I see the similarities with Ronaldo. Am I the only one? I'm not saying he's as good, or will be as good, but the playing style is similar the more I look at that. Pace, power, direct..
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QUOTE(onemanshows @ Jul 1 2009, 10:59 AM)
haha fingers crossed.

hopefully he'll come, prolly we can do a 4-3-3?

Benzema Berbatov Rooney
Anderson Carrick Fletcher
usual back 4 and GK

Seems world class up front, but maybe a bit lacking in midfield.

What you guys think?
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QUOTE(Hevrn @ Jul 1 2009, 09:53 AM)
Cue the "they've got a 30+ million pound striker on the bench! Not fair!" excuses. I do agree that Valencia is a tad bit overpriced, but its common knowledge around Europe that we're currently fat with cash thx to the Ronaldo sale and all our potential sellers are quoting marked up prices to milk us for all we can. Still, 16million for an Ecuadorian. Is that a record for them? Might still be time for more shopping, but I wouldn't be surprised if he was the only player we get this summer.
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its not matter he is an ecuadorian.. the talent and what he can do what really matter. vidic is serbian, park is korean, giggs wales, berba bulgarian..
he's not cheap but he worth the money la.. proven,young,talented. could be best player ecuador ever had. world cup 2006 he is one of the favourite to win young player of tournament award. consider how united pay for ando n nani he totally not overprice. just hope he can live up the expectation n faith SAF hv in him.

welcome valencia!! do ur magic.. make us proud!! rclxms.gif

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with the arrival of Valencia, Rooney will be back to his favourite position....oh...can't wait to see him racking up goals after goals like when he played for England
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Last season we had Ronaldo, but still Rooney played out wide. Now Ronaldo is gone and replaced by Valencia. We could still see Rooney out wide again. But that's due to tactical reasons, and the other wingers not in form. I don't really see it as such a bad thing if someone have to be sacrificed for the benefit of the team.
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Last season we had Ronaldo, but still Rooney played out wide. Now Ronaldo is gone and replaced by Valencia. We could still see Rooney out wide again. But that's due to tactical reasons, and the other wingers not in form. I don't really see it as such a bad thing if someone have to be sacrificed for the benefit of the team.
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yewps, certainly won't mind if rooney has to play out wide once awhile if it's for the benefit of the team. but with CR7(the one who nvr tracks back) gone, and Valencia stepping in which we know tracks back and defs better than CR7. i think we'll see Rooney less on the wings.

would definitely love to see Rooney at his favourite position and scoring week in week out.
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Why not just use Park on the opposite side of Ronaldo if that's the case? Tt was because Nani went shit throughout last season, and as good as Park is, some games we need a more threatening player there(Park need rest etc), which Rooney is, and we have better strikers in Berba and Tevez. But other times it's also due to tactical reasons.. using Ronaldo as the furthest forward, and Rooney and another one out wide.
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yewps, certainly won't mind if rooney has to play out wide once awhile if it's for the benefit of the team. but with CR7(the one who nvr tracks back) gone, and Valencia stepping in which we know tracks back and defs better than CR7. i think we'll see Rooney less on the wings.

would definitely love to see Rooney at his favourite position and scoring week in week out.
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which side is Valencia playing? left or right wing? if he plays left wing then rooney definitely will be back to the center since valencia is willing to track back quite often, and also means that evra could launch more attack from the left
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which side is Valencia playing? left or right wing? if he plays left wing then rooney definitely will be back to the center since valencia is willing to track back quite often, and also means that evra could launch more attack from the left
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He plays on the right. Nani/Park will battle it out for the other spot. I hope Nani really cement that place.
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i'm glad that he's gone for good
we need someone who is willing to be benched without complaining e.g. Jason, John, Jonny
and not criticizing the gaffer after leaving e.g. Pique, Rossi, even Becks

no one can ever play everyweek and every match

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He plays on the right. Nani/Park will battle it out for the other spot. I hope Nani really cement that place.
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well Nani really need to step up this season,been quite mediocre in the last 2seasons, but probably was due to lack of matches exposure....but if he and valencia really pick up their game, then we will have our new "yorke-cole" combo, only this time its at the wing position
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i'm glad that he's gone for good
we need someone who is willing to be benched without complaining e.g. Jason, John, Jonny
and not criticizing the gaffer after leaving e.g. Pique, Rossi, even Becks

no one can ever play everyweek and every match

*Lampard is exceptional case, but i think he did spent few match on the match
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My Man Utd jersey' vodafone logo just torn off while hand washing, i mean the whole thing just torn off the jersey. Do you guys know how to stick it back?


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guys, sorry to be out of topic.

My Man Utd jersey' vodafone logo just torn off while hand washing, i mean the whole thing just torn off the jersey. Do you guys know how to stick it back?
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From Rome to Kuala Lumpur via the Cote D'Azur, Sir Alex has been reflecting, resting and is now restructuring ready to tackle his 23rd full season at Old Trafford.

It has been 35 days since the pain of the Champions League final defeat against Barcelona.

It is 19 days until United start their first match of the Far East pre-season tour in Malaysia.

Ideally, the Reds boss will want to have his new look squad - without Carlos Tevez and Cristiano Ronaldo - in situ ready to fly out to the Far East next month.

But he'll know better than most that when you are after the calibre of performer United need, transfer business rarely runs smooth.

However, it looks more than likely that Ferguson will have Wigan's Antonio Valencia on the plane to Malaysia and integrated before the serious business begins in August.

Whether Ronaldo and Tevez defections took him by surprise or not he'll have been lay on a sun lounger in the south of France with numerous names whirling around his head to improve his champions.

Fergie will also no doubt have been re-running the Rome disappointment in his head and considering whether he has an Iniesta or Xavi in his ranks already or whether he'll have to buy the kind of midfielder who wrecked the Reds' dreams in Italy.

Check out the graphic on the right as M.E.N. Sport takes a serious and also tongue-in-cheek look at the potential `jobs to do' that are lined up for Fergie as he gets his head around another phase of his United career.
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But, as most men can testify, the missus can be the toughest opponent of all.

The Serbian star has revealed how he received offers from AC Milan, Real Madrid and Barcelona this summer and the wife wanted him to take one up as she was unhappy with her life in Manchester.

Vidic, however, put his foot down.

He said: “My wife Ana is unhappy with our lifestyle in Manchester but I am not going to change my mind as I am happy with the team and Manchester and the club’s ambitions for next season.”

Having moved to United from Spartak Moscow it makes you wonder quite what life was like in the Russian capital where a WAGs’ hairdo can crack from frostbite in the winter.

But, hey, you just can’t please some people.

Vidic has certainly pleased United fans and his manager since arriving at Old Trafford.

After losing both Cristiano Ronaldo and Carlos Tevez there was no way manager Alex Ferguson wanted to see the foundation of the team’s success completely disappear.

That is why he turned down the £26.5million offer from Barcelona and gave Vidic a new three-year contract and pay rise of £20,000 a week to £70,000.

Vidic, now Serbia’s highest-earning player, revealed: “I got offers from Milan, Barcelona and Real Madrid and I played a very honest game — I disclosed all these offers to my boss Sir Alex.

“He reacted quickly. I was told he was raising my pay to bring it to the level where my reputation is in the Premier League and Europe.

“After Milan and Real Madrid made their offers, Barcelona came in — they wanted to pay 30m for my services but after Sir Alex’s move, I am definitely staying in Manchester until my contract expires in 2012.

“I don’t care that I will still not be paid as much as my good friends Rio Ferdinand or Wayne Rooney but I guess I will be at the same level as Berbatov and Carrick.”

He probably needs to take a closer look at Berbatov’s contract as he is still a good £20,000 a week ahead on £90,000 — but let’s not split hairs.

Vidic had an uncertain start to his United career but has been proving his worth each season since he joined the club in January 2006.

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He said: “People often forget that when you move from one country to another and from one league to another, you have to change your playing style.

“My style of play is now completely adjusted to the Premier League.”

He has made more than 150 appearances for the club but last season was undoubtedly his best.

Vidic was the only constant in the back four as United established a top-flight record of 14 consecutive clean sheets.

The 27-year-old said: “It’s always nice to do things like this and set some new records but it’s a tribute for the whole team.

“It’s a great team to play in and it makes it easier for us as the defenders to do our job.”

Vidic has also proved to be a potent force from set-plays at the other end of the field, notching up 12 goals for the club.

All in all not a player Fergie wanted to let go and one who has won him rave reviews.

Vidic said: “You play football to do the best you can and you try to improve yourself in every game, every training session.

“So if people say nice things about your game, then you have to feel happy.

“If you’re doing well and the team is flying high, then that’s what you aim for.”

The understanding between keeper Edwin van der Sar and Vidic and the rest of the back four helped United to a trophy treble last season, picking up the Club World Cup, Carling Cup and Premier League.

Van der Sar said: “Nemanja was fantastic last year and this year even more so.

“It’s a great understanding we have — and that goes for all the defenders.

“You’re sure that they’ll protect you but also know that if they’re in trouble they can give the ball to me and I can do something with it.

“It helps that we have been playing together for three or four years now.”

The only time that their understanding collapsed was in the 4-1 home Premier League defeat to Liverpool and in the 2-0 Champions League final loss to Barcelona.

Those two games were undoubtedly Vidic’s worst — but they are engulfed by many more when he has proved just why the world’s top clubs want his services.

In an otherwise disappointing summer so far, the Serb’s commitment to the club is good news for United fans.

As for Vidic’s wife Ana, an extra £20,000 a week will surely open many more doors at the Trafford Centre.


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well Nani really need to step up this season,been quite mediocre in the last 2seasons, but probably was due to lack of matches exposure....but if he and valencia really pick up their game, then we will have our new "yorke-cole" combo, only this time its at the wing position
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Last season, yes he was mediocre. But before that he was a lot more threatening than Park ever been, and also was pretty good throughout that season. Get back into that form, and LW will really be his. Like you said, need a lot of games for him to get there.
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Don't get too excited yet. Those quotes could be fake. Someone called Predator broke that story in a website..
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concede alot of goal too!!!

funny when u look at it on the right side, it looks like a decent formation, but then you see Given on the opposite goal post...lol

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Let's hope Tevez really goes there and they sign another couple of good strikers. That would be fun. Good luck in whichever finals you will play with City, Carlos!
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Having sold World Player of the Year Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid for a record £80m, United are believed to have reinvested around £16m on the Wigan Athletic winger.

Valencia, 23, is likely to be the first of a handful of new arrivals at Old Trafford as Ferguson seeks to replace the attacking threats of Ronaldo and striker Carlos Tevez, who has opted not to join the Red Devils permanently.

But despite the prospect of more new names on the way, Ferguson is already convinced he has secured a player who can have a big impact on next term's title defence.

"Antonio is a player we have admired for some time now, having spent the last two years in the Premier League with Wigan," he said.

"I am sure his pace and ability will make a significant contribution to the team."

If nothing else, Valencia's arrival ensures Wayne Rooney should be given the more central berth he craves next season as the Ecuador star is unlikely to venture into the middle quite as much as Ronaldo.

As he has already gone through the Premier League settling-in period after spending two seasons with the Latics, there are no worries over whether Valencia can adapt either.

His lack of English may be a concern initially, although the main doubt of most United fans is a goalscoring return of just seven in 83 appearances for Wigan and four in 34 for his country.

Even though few would expect Valencia alone to match Ronaldo's phenomenal recent output, better will be expected from a player who spent a short time as a team-mate of former United star Diego Forlan at Villarreal.

Forlan's experience proves players of high quality can struggle to make an impact at Old Trafford, although Valencia is looking forward to the opportunity.

"Joining Manchester United is a dream come true for me," he said.

"I have enjoyed my time at Wigan but I am thrilled to have the chance to challenge for the biggest honours in club football here.

"Playing in front of 76,000 fans alongside players like Wayne Rooney, Rio Ferdinand and Ryan Giggs will be an amazing experience. I can't wait to get started.

"I hope the fans at Wigan can understand that I am an ambitious guy and a chance like this might never come again for me.

"I am happy that the club has benefited from the move financially because I owe them such a lot. I have had a great time here."


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As much as I thankful for his 2 years wonderful service. I will just take it as players come and go.

Everybody comes to Old Trafford are not guaranteed a 100% first team place. They have to fight for it.

We are a big clubs that have enough games in a season to let everyone plays. They just have to be patient and if can't. Too bad, the club is bigger than any player.
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The Madrid-based press are simply not convinced that ‘Benzinho’ is on his way to Old Trafford.

One of Karim Benzema’s team-mates at Lyon, Miralem Pjanic, yesterday revealed that the striker is certain to be on his way to Manchester United for €45 million.

Despite his declarations, Marca believe that Real Madrid are in fact closer to concluding a deal for the young Frenchman than their fierce English counterparts, and they are confident that it could only be a matter of hours before an agreement is announced.

The paper reports that their source within the club has revealed that Los Blancos are willing to up an initial bid of €32 million to €35 million for the 21-year-old, just €5m shy of Lyon’s asking price. It would still, however, be some way off what the Red Devils are allegedly prepared to offer.

It is believed that Benzema will meet with his club officials on Wednesday to discuss his future before kicking off pre-season preparations on Thursday in Tignes.

The player has always maintained that he would prefer to remain in France for one more year to assure ideal preparations for the national side ahead of the 2010 World Cup.

Update: According to the latest report from Marca, Madrid’s chief director, Jorge Valdano has just backed up Florentino Perez’s claim that the club could announce another signing shortly.

“We do not discard the possibility that in the next few hours, something could happen,” Valdano told Onda Cero.

The Argentine, however, confirmed that it almost definitely will not be David Villa.

“Nothing will happen with Villa over the next few days because Valencia have not changed their stance.

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I would like to comment on Tevez. No doubt he has been a good player that work tirelessly for United. It is fine he is complaining that United did not resolve his future.

BUT... to actually constantly complaint even after he has decided not to move to United is totally unprofessional. Ya right, they did not solve your future, but keep on moaning around do not solve the problem instead making it complicate for United to resolve your future!!

I guess even Tevez wants to turn back to OT, do not even consider it... He will moaning again in future and everyone will feel uneasy with him around.
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jul 1 2009, 04:22 PM)
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soccernet oso claim tat we r closing in on BENZEMA
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So Kar is coming to Old Trafford..?? ..haha
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From the quotes, looks like Real are close to signing someone. They just speculate it's Benzema. Could be someone else. And so far nobody knows whether that quotes from Prjanic is true or not.. soccernet/skysports just copy paste the news from some website.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 04:48 PM)
From the quotes, looks like Real are close to signing someone. They just speculate it's Benzema. Could be someone else. And so far nobody knows whether that quotes from Prjanic is true or not.. soccernet/skysports just copy paste the news from some website.
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might be xavi alonso... becoz jus now i went to livepool thread...someone said that alonso went to spain to finish up the talks..
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 04:48 PM)
From the quotes, looks like Real are close to signing someone. They just speculate it's Benzema. Could be someone else. And so far nobody knows whether that quotes from Prjanic is true or not.. soccernet/skysports just copy paste the news from some website.
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it could be Ribery... hmm.gif

as Zidane working on it

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If Benzema really in ...
The next one will say to leave ManUTd will be Berba ..
He will follow what tevez saying ..
i wan 1st team football and all the nonsense..
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it must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

Benz is on the way to OT.. icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on July 1, 2009, 4:55 pmit must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

Benz is on the way to OT.. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jul 1 2009, 04:54 PM)
it must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

Benz is on the way to OT..  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on July 1, 2009, 4:55 pmit must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

Benz is on the way to OT..  icon_rolleyes.gif
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How i wish Ribery , Benzema , Valencia in our squad..
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  Lyon midfielder Miralem Pjanic has denied that he said team-mate Karim Benzema was close to completing a move to Manchester United.


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LOL.. Another twist in the story.. I think it's Arbeloa who's signing for Madrid nod.gif
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Lyon midfielder Miralem Pjanic has denied that he said team-mate Karim Benzema was close to completing a move to Manchester United.

The 19-year-old was quoted as stating in a Bosnian newspaper on Tuesday that the striker was just days away from switching to the Premier League champions for £38million.

Benzema has been strongly linked with a move to United as well as Real Madrid, Barcelona and Arsenal in recent weeks, despite declaring a wish to stay at Lyon for another season at least.

However Pjanic insists he said nothing which would suggest the French international is heading to Old Trafford.

"I have not granted any interview to the media. I do not know any other answer to say to you because I said nothing," he told Lyon Capital.
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Meanwhile Real have revealed that they are set to unveil another big name signing on Wednesday, leading many to suggest they are close to securing Benzema's signature now that previous target David Villa looks set to stay at Valencia.

"We do not discard the possibility that in the next few hours, something could happen," Real director Jorge Valdano told Onda Cero.


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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jul 1 2009, 04:58 PM)
how about this:-
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jul 1 2009, 04:59 PM)
it must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

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SPAM SPOTTED !!! vmad.gif
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QUOTE(verbatim @ Jul 1 2009, 04:59 PM)
it must be Ribery... He will only sign for RM

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Valencia looks like Kleberson to me ..
hopefully he wont be like him while playing for ManUTD !! smile.gif smile.gif
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QUOTE(haobeck @ Jul 1 2009, 05:00 PM)
Come on...it isnt true man!!  cry.gif  cry.gif
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easy my friend.. it was intentional.. i had edited my post... its due to connection problem..
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Tough transfer season man..

So many teams want to rebuild..

RM,AC,Chelsea,,Man City

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we have got our 80 million pound... club confirmed
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QUOTE(sixseven @ Jul 1 2009, 05:23 PM)
we have got our 80 million pound... club confirmed
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2mrrow we'll get benzema biggrin.gif
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80m. I bet the glazers put all those money in a pool, and swim in it.
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 05:35 PM)
80m. I bet the glazers put all those money in a pool, and swim in it.
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they are loyal.. they give it all to SAF to spend blush.gif
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Ferguson salutes departing World Player of Year
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Sir Alex Ferguson has paid a glowing tribute to Cristiano Ronaldo after the Portugal forward completed his move to Real Madrid.

Manchester United's coffers have been boosted by an astonishing £80million from the sale of the World Player of the Year to the Spanish giants.

The unconditional world record fee has been paid to the Old Trafford outfit, with Ferguson now expected to embark on a summer spending spree.

Antonio Valencia has already arrived from Wigan for a fee reported to be in the region of £18million and more new faces are certain to follow.

Ronaldo developed from a precocious teenager into one of the finest players on the planet during his time with United, helping the club to collect silverware at home and abroad.
Marvellous

And Ferguson has hailed the former Sporting Lisbon ace for everything he brought to the Premier League champions.

The Scot told the club's official website: "Cristiano has been a marvellous player for Manchester United. His six years at Old Trafford have seen him develop into the best footballer in the world.

"His contribution has been a major factor in the club's success in that time and his talent, his ability to entertain and his infectious personality have enthralled fans the world over.

"Everyone here wishes him well in his future career."
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easy my friend.. it was intentional.. i had edited my post... its due to connection problem..
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Ronaldo seals Real switch
Ferguson salutes departing World Player of Year
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may be this is the big signing signal by RM  whistling.gif  cool.gif
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I wonder will SAF speak out the same words for the departure of Carlos Tevez .. unsure.gif unsure.gif
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No problem my fren!  icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think tevez departure nothing to do with us , as he is just loan with us biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jul 1 2009, 05:38 PM)
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may be this is the big signing signal by RM  whistling.gif  cool.gif
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10.46  Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Lyon to sign Karim Benzema for €35million and the deal will be made official in the next couple of days, according to reports in Spain

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Real Madrid Agree Karim Benzema Deal - Report

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Karim Benzema looks to have had his next move decided...


Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Olympique Lyonnais to sign Karim Benzema for €35 million and the deal will be made official in the next couple of days, according to reports in Spain.

Both Marca and AS state that the highly-rated French striker will become Los Merengues fourth big-money arrival of the summer after negotiations saw a deal reached.

With Manchester United preparing to make a move, Madrid president Florentino Perez moved to ensure that talks pushed things along and that an agreement was done to prevent Benzema going elsewhere.

The 21-year-old is not due back from his summer holiday until late on Wednesday and he is due to hold talks with Lyon coach Claude Puel on Thursday morning to discuss what he wants to do.

In Spain, it is being reported that he will be told by his club that a deal has been agreed and that it will be in his best interests to decide quickly whether or not he wants to go.

There have been mixed signals coming from Benzema as he has announced that he would like to join one of Europe's biggest clubs, but that he also wants to remain with Lyon in the year before the World Cup Finals.

The French club's president, Jean-Michel Aulas, was keen to sort out one way or another what would happen to his club's homegrown star in order to allow Puel to continue with his squad rebuilding.

Madrid presented Kaka in front of thousands of supporters at the Bernabeu on Tuesday and Perez stated that another new player would be announced soon, which led to intense speculation that it was Benzema.

Now AS and Marca have stated that the deal was agreed on Wednesday morning and that both parties are now waiting for the player himself to give the green light to it.


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10.46 Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Lyon to sign Karim Benzema for €35million and the deal will be made official in the next couple of days, according to reports in Spain.


noooooooooooooooo..........
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i would like to watch every single game of Real Madrid next season... nod.gif
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relax bro... until benz "angkat baju" at bernabau then only its official... don't trust any media unless its manutd or real official site.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 1 2009, 02:27 PM)
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QUOTE(edvpc @ Jul 1 2009, 05:59 PM)
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Why the feck would anyone want to watch that fascist club is beyond me. Nothing better than to see them crash and burn. A circus.
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http://www.manutd.com/default.sps?pagegid=...&newsid=6635447
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For those of you that like a flutter, Sky Bet's Helen Jacob reports: Karim Benzema has been backed in from 7/1to 7/4 to go to Real Madrid. Money has flooded in this morning at all odds down from 7/1.Punters are assuming that the big name that Real Madrid may be unveiling on Wednesday is Benzema. He's friendless to stay at Lyon so it looks a two horse race between Madrid and Man Utd (8/13)."


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Lyon denied that story.. jeng jeng jeng.


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Selangor membuat kejutan, apabila membuat bidaan kepada LYon bagi membeli Karim Benzema....

harga masih lagi dalam rundingan dan Karim sudahpun bersetuju menyarung jersi merah kuning musim depan.....


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Come on..y so many fake news nowaday...
mau ikut MJ's trend huh !??
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Rumours regarding Karim Benzema have gone into overdrive, with widespread reports intimating the Lyon man is definitely on his way to Real Madrid.

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Come on..y so many fake news nowaday...
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Real Madrid have reached an agreement with Lyon to sign Karim Benzema, according to the player's agent. Sky Bet have suspended all betting on Benzema's move to Madrid.


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Olympique Lyonnais striker Karim Benzema is set to join Real Madrid after both clubs agreed a ¬35m deal, according to reports in the French and Spanish media.

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Karim Benzema: French international looks set to join the Real Madrid revolution
French radio station RMC quote the Les Bleus' players agent as saying only personal terms need to be settled before the deal goes through.

Meanwhile, Spanish newspapers Marca and AS both claim the highly-rated 21-year-old will shortly join £80m Cristiano Ronaldo and £56m Kaka in Madrid as president Florentino Perez constructs a new team of galacticos.

Benzema is due to return to training with Lyon on July 2 and will be told that a deal has been agreed, according to the reports.

If the transfer does go through Madrid will have spent just under ¬250,000m on new players under Perez.


benz the new rm flop to be?

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wth? what is Perez building @ RM?

1st KAKA, then CR, now BENZEMA???!!!!! He think he's playing FM is it??? doh.gif
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Uhh come on la bro. It's MARCA who has been claiming Madrid has successfully signed Ronaldo like yearsssss ago. We'll see how things go through. I really think it's a smokescreen for Alonso, Arbeloa and Ribery.

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It's not smtg you'd expect Real to pay. I think Lyon would hold Benzema for at least 40mil, it's Real we are talking here.
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It's not smtg you'd expect Real to pay. I think Lyon would hold Benzema for at least 40mil, it's Real we are talking here.
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Time to set our sights on another player then. I'm still having my fingers crossed that Real have not actually got him, but Benzema might be more interested in the project over there than the one here. His loss then. Let's throw in the remaining 80+ million into clearing out our fecking debt and give Welbeck and Macheda a chance (notice I didn't mention Manucho)
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Of course. Manucho is a confirmed starter next to Berba with Rooney playing behind them.
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Now I'm looking forward to Nani on the left wing, interchanging with Valencia on the right then passing the ball to Rooney, the lad flicks in, GOAL......!

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While Berba was in the centre circle smoking his cigar and looking cool..
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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jun 21 2009, 12:07 AM)
i've said it since the beginning of summer, Benzema will definitely come, and our new #7.
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LYON: NO BENZEMA AGREEMENT
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Lyon have received a big-money offer for Karim Benzema but insist there is no agreement with Real Madrid or any other club for the forward.

The 21-year-old is one of the world's hottest properties at the moment, with Manchester United and Madrid reportedly among those in the to sign him.

Spanish media have claimed that Benzema could soon put pen to paper on a deal at the Bernabeu after Lyon accepted the an increased offer of 35 million euros from Real.

However, Lyon's director of communications insists they have not agreed to sell the France forward.

"We certainly did receive an offer of a sum appreciably superior to the sum that has been mentioned, but nothing says that it comes from Real," communications director Olivier Blanc told L'Equipe.

"There is no agreement with anyone
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United coach Sir Alex Ferguson has long been an admirer of Benzema and the Premier Leagueoutfit could decide to use some of the £80 million earned from the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Madrid to tempt the striker to Old Trafford.

Benzema came through the ranks with the French giants and burst onto the scene in the 2007-08 season with 31 goals in 51 games, a streak that saw him named Ligue 1 player of the year as well as top the league's scoring charts.

The last campaign was less impressive for both club and player, as Lyon ended the season without the Ligue 1 title for the first time in eight years, but Benzema nevertheless scored 23 goals in all competitions - an average of a goal every other game.

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LYON: NO BENZEMA AGREEMENT

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Lyon have received a big-money offer for Karim Benzema but insist there is no agreement with Real Madrid or any other club for the forward.

The 21-year-old is one of the world's hottest properties at the moment, with Manchester United and Madrid reportedly among those in the to sign him.

Spanish media have claimed that Benzema could soon put pen to paper on a deal at the Bernabeu after Lyon accepted the an increased offer of 35 million euros from Real.

However, Lyon's director of communications insists they have not agreed to sell the France forward.

"We certainly did receive an offer of a sum appreciably superior to the sum that has been mentioned, but nothing says that it comes from Real," communications director Olivier Blanc told L'Equipe.

"There is no agreement with anyone."

United coach Sir Alex Ferguson has long been an admirer of Benzema and the Premier Leagueoutfit could decide to use some of the £80 million earned from the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Madrid to tempt the striker to Old Trafford.

Benzema came through the ranks with the French giants and burst onto the scene in the 2007-08 season with 31 goals in 51 games, a streak that saw him named Ligue 1 player of the year as well as top the league's scoring charts.

The last campaign was less impressive for both club and player, as Lyon ended the season without the Ligue 1 title for the first time in eight years, but Benzema nevertheless scored 23 goals in all competitions - an average of a goal every other game.


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QUOTE(Makakeke @ Jul 1 2009, 08:12 PM)
Oh cmon, it's not finalized yet whistling.gif
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Trying to instigate a bidding war me thinks. Gill and Co. get your caps and calculators on!
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Let's all wait for the official statement.. I think that's coming soon.. From our website that is biggrin.gif
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Damn it.......i was so nervous with all this news.......we shall know in next 24 hour......

hopefully end up in our side.....
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QUOTE(kobe8byrant @ Jul 1 2009, 08:16 PM)
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Not gonna happen. 1) he'll come to United. 2) you won't be going laugh.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 1 2009, 08:19 PM)
Let's all wait for the official statement.. I think that's coming soon.. From our website that is biggrin.gif
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yeah yeah..how i wish so ~~
no point of going there Benz...they've too much talents there.. RVN,RAUL,HUNTELAAR,...

hate to see the soccernet headline now !!
they talk like they're going to sign him soon..

Hope BENZ think twice b4 choosing RM or Manutd !
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Hello people. Anyone here have checked out the price of new jerseys? Read from Nike that we can pre-order them. LS got? And, if the size not ngam, how? Thanks =D
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order from Nike straight? or still from the official site?
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QUOTE(boxsystem @ Jul 1 2009, 08:35 PM)
order from Nike straight? or still from the official site?
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I don't think Kaka is better than Ronaldo tongue.gif
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If Benzema actually has a brain, he'd join us.
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QUOTE(yoecr7 @ Jul 1 2009, 08:41 PM)
If Benzema actually has a brain, he'd join us.
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And why is that? He said last time he would prefer madrid.. And don't you want to play with all the superstars? Haha LOL doh.gif

I don't know what happened to me biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 1 2009, 08:59 PM)
And why is that? He said last time he would prefer madrid.. And don't you want to play with all the superstars? Haha LOL  doh.gif

I don't know what happened to me  biggrin.gif
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Haha. I thought you'd agree with that? Kita main bola nak menang piala, bukan nak bertepuk-tampar dengan superstars. tongue.gif

P/S: we have superstars too okayyyy... Nani, Valencia, Park etc

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Now you see it now you don't biggrin.gif

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Okay..cocks out!
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It all depends on how badly we want him,and how much we're willing to do.....again!

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if his heart is not with us,no point to sign him!
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QUOTE(yoecr7 @ Jul 1 2009, 09:09 PM)
Haha. I thought you'd agree with that? Kita main bola nak menang piala, bukan nak bertepuk-tampar dengan superstars.  tongue.gif

P/S: we have superstars too okayyyy... Nani, Valencia, Park etc
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Haha.. Just kiddim lorr biggrin.gif True.. Man Utd is the best club in the world.. I don't know why people would still prefer madrid shakehead.gif

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Haha.. Just kiddim lorr  biggrin.gif True.. Man Utd is the best club in the world.. I don't know why people would still prefer madrid  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Pain_X @ Jul 1 2009, 09:48 PM)
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hope its not true that benz going to RM cry.gif

come on benz make the right choice n join man utd
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hope its not true that benz going to RM  cry.gif

come on benz make the right choice n join man utd
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he's too expensive and unproven. not worth the money. seriously. i would rather use that money to sign ribery. smile.gif
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QUOTE(tchiaming @ Jul 1 2009, 10:04 PM)
he's too expensive and unproven. not worth the money. seriously. i would rather use that money to sign ribery. smile.gif
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unproven? shakehead.gif have u watched lyon's games? especially the one against us drool.gif
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Valencia have half of Ronaldo skills only....he also is a team player...anyways lets hope its a good signing.
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QUOTE(tchiaming @ Jul 1 2009, 10:04 PM)
he's too expensive and unproven. not worth the money. seriously. i would rather use that money to sign ribery. smile.gif
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Another winger my friend?

We have a packed left and right side, and the only place missing is the striking department.

Therefore, Bafetimbi Gomis, Karim Benzema, Klaas Jan Huntelaar, Khalid Jamlus, Sergio Aguero just to name a few.

We need a Carlos Tevez replacement, fast!
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QUOTE(Sheep319 @ Jul 1 2009, 10:35 PM)
Another winger my friend?

We have a packed left and right side, and the only place missing is the striking department.

Therefore, Bafetimbi Gomis, Karim Benzema, Klaas Jan Huntelaar, Khalid Jamlus, Sergio Aguero just to name a few.

We need a Carlos Tevez replacement, fast!
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QUOTE(tchiaming @ Jul 1 2009, 10:04 PM)
he's too expensive and unproven. not worth the money. seriously. i would rather use that money to sign ribery. smile.gif
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What makes you think Ribery will be cheaper than Benzema? Plus Ribery is also unproven in BPL, just like Benzema.

I will take a 40mil Benzema instead of way overpay anything over 50/60mil for Ribery.
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35 m pounds for benzema... if not, then we just use the money to pay the debt..rather than buying overprice player..later become like veron....
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QUOTE(Wan @ Jul 1 2009, 10:44 PM)
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Manucho heading to Real Madrid too? NOO!! mad.gif
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NO.

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HE'S GONNA OUTCLASS BERBATOV DAMMIT.


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What makes you think Ribery will be cheaper than Benzema? Plus Ribery is also unproven in BPL, just like Benzema.

I will take a 40mil Benzema instead of way overpay anything over 50/60mil for Ribery.
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At the same time, Ribery has never faced Man Utd yet, so we haven't seen him in action against Man Utd (i know a stupid statement)

We've seen how Benzema performs against United, and he scored a magnificent goal against us.



As seen here.

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OLOL Sheep and his Manucho antics biggrin.gif

None of you guys could make SAF sign anyone la. And Benz and/or Ribery ? Come on, those will offset the team. Best is to have a player that could play with the team, not having the team to play with him :S.
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Didn't Vidic shite all over Benzema in the return leg? smile.gif
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Shite he did, but scored he did too.
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QUOTE(FaezFarhan @ Jul 1 2009, 10:06 PM)
unproven?  shakehead.gif have u watched lyon's games? especially the one against us  drool.gif
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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 2 2009, 12:32 AM)
France's league is diffrent quality like England's.
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So does Germany's league. At least we have seen Benzema played against us. Plus, he's young compared to Ribery.

Well, not like he's already signed for us.

So, cocks in!

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