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post Jun 27 2009, 10:25 AM

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fabian assman!!!!!!!!!!
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post Jun 27 2009, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 27 2009, 10:51 AM)
ski hunting him, so no chance for us... laugh.gif
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ahh crapp! like air_mood, i've been tracking this guy and he is a super wonderkid. icon_rolleyes.gif

i hate ski ..
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post Jun 29 2009, 12:39 AM

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I just love how oxymorons join this thread just to bash berba and slate fergie. What's more interesting is how this oxymorons claimed they've been supporting the club for like, years?

i guess morons will be morons. f*** all transfer muppets.
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post Jun 29 2009, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Jun 29 2009, 01:34 PM)
if we sign aguero then he became a flop  sweat.gif so better get benz  tongue.gif
zlatan also not bad  laugh.gif
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Happy birthday bro!
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post Jun 29 2009, 02:40 PM

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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Jun 29 2009, 01:44 PM)
thanks, i bought a gift for myself... manutd white color jersey,  a hat with bells ( that they wear at the stadium, looks like clown  sweat.gif )laugh.gif  and a scarf.
eventho here in kl is hot, but for the sake of 18july i will wear it. icon_rolleyes.gif
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Online order kah? Sounds interesting .. would love to get my hands on those items.. hehe. laugh.gif
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post Jun 29 2009, 06:24 PM

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QUOTE(nizamhameed @ Jun 29 2009, 06:20 PM)
Valencia close to United deal
Winger set to complete switch to Red Devils on Monday


his price for me worth it, still young plus proven EPL

no 7 for him, may be not at the moment, he need to prove it at the moment to be no 7
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Nooooooooo. Dont give him that number! I just think that he doesn't have the ability to carry that number.
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post Jun 30 2009, 12:14 AM

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stupid blatter. money doesn't guarantee success. take a good look at massive and ski and yeah RM. you can have all the stars in the world but still losing the league.

he hates english prem league. just say it. no need to hide behind the bush.
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post Jun 30 2009, 07:59 AM

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QUOTE(miccy @ Jun 30 2009, 01:36 AM)
I think what Blatter said is right regarding to the environment in the English league, not because i am an RM fan (which is very obvious). I mean, look at Man City, they can spend with all the money in the world, just because their owners are mega-multi-billionaires. It's not fair considering the money is come from their own wealth instead of footballing aspect. The sport is subjected to an industry, and this one to capitalism, and we all know that capitalism is not precisely quite equal, but it's the rules that we are playing with. While RM being criticized for spending big, they actually pursuing up a loan which can be covered by their assets. Football club in Spain like Barca are backed up by their members (or i can say the owners) which comprising to 142k of people as they has the rights to vote for their president. While the president is in charge, he has no rights whatsoever to fund his own wealth running through the club which is fair considering that he will only use the club's fund that are generated through various football revenue stream and settle the club debts with financial strategies etc. Unlike in England, the fans has no power regarding to their beloved club. Well, it's just what i think right now, i might be wrong.  icon_rolleyes.gif
I think you didn't understand what Mr Blatter trying to point out.
Still losing the league? the season is not even started for Perez's 2nd edition (2009-??) of Galacticos, or you are pointing out on the 1st edition (2000-06)? I thought RM won 2 La Liga and 1 CL with those superstars in the first three years before Makelele n Del Bosque left.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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What about the current crop of stars? Sneijder isn't a star? VDV? Robben?

What's the difference in having loans that can buy all the players that they want and have the money to buy all the players? Yes, you need to service the debt. What's wrong in having more money to buy ready made players? Need I pointed out on how RM has spent around £150m for both Kaka and Ronaldo only?

Blatter and co has been biased. No doubt. I found it strange when money was thrown like nothing for those two. Good for us, we have the £80m and £55m for Milan. No doubt that can help us clear the debt. But PL clubs also generating money by selling shirts and whatnot to the fans. What's the difference in what is RM doing?

So whenever any PL clubs are buying or selling out of the order price .. only Blatter and co make noises ah? I thought he could've have make noises like years ago when BIG PL clubs are being bought by Yanks or any other people. If Perez or whomever can play FM, why not these oil tycoons?


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post Jun 30 2009, 12:24 PM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Jun 30 2009, 11:58 AM)
to be fair i think people should understand what blatter really meant.. its not above spending power or big transfer money
he was talking bout the method of owning clubs in England putting the Premier League at an advantage compared to their major European counterparts

for long term future of football he may hv a point there.. imagine what happen to city n chelsea keep happening to other premier league team
imagine someone as rich or richer and dont mind spending their own money for transfer buying club like everton,villa,spur or the like of hull,boro,west brom

things are different elsewhere at other league.. but i still fan of BPL  tongue.gif
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Perfectly understands what he meant. Regarding the ownership of the club. But let me just highlight one thing, they have elections in La Liga clubs while here, in England they have total ownership. When someone said there's no power to the fans they are dead wrong, out of nowhere there's FC United. And how people have been boycotting the Glazers when they came to United back then. Fans always have the last say. If there's no fan in Manchester, where would the support come from?

To be honest, I don't really give a damn if Pompey, Villa or whatever club is being bought by tycoons. They can afford it, so what? Fans will still be fans and supporters. As a matter of fact, this will help the club thus league being more competitive. Marketable? Hell yes! And this will attract big talents and names to come and play.

What Blatter or his BF Platini are doing is trying to kill English clubs. I don't see any difference when Perez or Abramowich is in charge of a club. Perez promises the fans to get this set of players and so does Abramowich. The only difference is the money source. I do believe that because of Abramowich, Chelsea has just step up and market their club better despite of glory hunters.

Big money transfers will kill the small clubs? Take a good look at Valencia. In Spain, I believe only Barca and RM have the most say over transfers while others are having problems in getting big names to play for them. Isn't the same scenario happens in any other leagues? So, what's wrong with tycoons buying smaller clubs. They chose EPL because it's marketable and it's in ENGLISH. Audience from all around the world can easily understand what are being saying and so on.

So, what's wrong with having an oil tycoon to pay for your club? They still have to generate money to cope with their losses. We've seen that with Chelsea. It's not like they aren't doing something about it. Funny how Blatter and Platini can talk so much while being biased on non-English clubs. 6+5 rule? Great idea but take a good look at current RM lineup? Or maybe Barca which barely even have 6 Spanish in their side. Toure, Henry, Messi, Alves and Eto'o aren't exactly Spanish are they?

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post Jun 30 2009, 02:04 PM

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QUOTE(onepack @ Jun 30 2009, 01:16 PM)
highlight la liga hv election does not change the fact that english club hv an edge of total ownership different than other league club. if english club only compete in their own competition it will be no problem n fair but u got european club competition too..

as a fan i also dont give a damn bout tycoon buying other club.. that is why blatter is the president of FIFA while we just a fan of football. to attract big player coz of club statue, history, reputation, winning ability is definately positive but only coz of money that not good for football as a sport.

to say blatter trying to kill english club for me is just short minded, selfish and nonsense.. no different between perez or abramovich? then only difference is money source?  hmm.gif

big money wont kill small club.. maybe only put pressure for them to keep competing against big club. tycoon choose english club not just coz its marketable and its english but also coz THEY CAN!! they cant buy other league club to hv total ownership and power elsewhere. its simply if u got the money u can be owner of a club

it not bout wrong or rite.. it his money its up to him la. it just not fair to other league and it could ruin or atleast change how football should be. correct me if i'm wrong but i think 6+5 rule the 6 is for homegrown not only countrymen. also chelsea still making losses.. abromovich want to win, city owner want to make the club biggest in manchester,england.., glazer want make money n keep running biznes. not possible one day super rich owner came just to hv fun and show his money..
this just my opinion.. TQ  whistling.gif
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Big money kills small clubs. I wonder how can you claim something like that. Just take a good look on transfers activity. Big name players wouldn't want to come if lucrative offers aren't there, right? Take a good look at Barry. Last season he wanted out of Villa due to Champs League spot, yet this post-season he went to City which was placed 10th last season. Although, I would like to reiterate that big money DOESN'T guarantee successes. You still need good understanding among everyone in a club.

Why do you think arsenal fans are having problems with that bolded part? if that rule is being implemented(which of course, I don't have any problems with it coz United is safe), Liverpool, Chelsea and Arsenal will be having problems. Maybe even Barca and RM despite of many qualities in Spain. Read this statement below.

QUOTE(Wikipedia)
Platini has recently backed the 6+5 idea, six home international players and five foreign players, to be introduced in top flight teams in Europe. Platini has also backed caps on wages, transfer spending - both absolute and as a fraction of club turnover - and foreign ownership of clubs.

Homegrown? Don't think so. The bolded part on wages and transfer spending? What do you make of RM now? They've gotta learn that FOOTBALL IS BUSINESS nowadays. Even they're(UEFA&FIFA) making money out of it. So, saying they're being biased towards English club are not so stupid and childish eh?

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post Jul 1 2009, 03:37 AM

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Valencia? Checked!
Benzema? Next ...

Hehehe.

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post Jul 1 2009, 04:35 AM

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Pjanic - Benzema to join Utd
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Miralem Pjanic claims Lyon team-mate Karim Benzema is close to completing a £38million move to Manchester United.

Benzema has been a long-term target for United, with Lyon prepared to listen to offers if the France international expresses a wish to move.

Reports had previously claimed that Benzema was willing to spend one more season with Lyon in order to maximise his prospects of playing at the 2010 World Cup.

However, he could now be on his way to Old Trafford after Pjanic revealed the 21-year-old is ready to link up with the Premier League champions.
Nearly gone

"Benzema is nearly gone to Old Trafford," Pjanic told Bosnian website Sportsport.

"The English club are willing to pay €45million (£38million) for him and it is just a question of the day when he will move to England.

"He does not have anything against going to Manchester. Our side will be reinforced by Lisandro Lopez, the Argentine forward from Porto."

Real Madrid and Arsenal had also been linked with the striker, but it appears United have won the race to sign the coveted Benzema.

United boss Sir Alex Ferguson is striving to replace Carlos Tevez following the end of the Argentine's two-year loan and Benzema looks to be his top target.

Ferguson has money to spend following the sale of Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid and wrapped up the signing of Antonio Valencia from Wigan Athletic on Tuesday evening.


Fingers crossed guys! drool.gif
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post Jul 1 2009, 06:48 PM

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benz to RM? jeng jeng jeng!
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post Jul 1 2009, 06:54 PM

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LOL Wan. Denied? Sos? Haha lagi mau taruk Bon Jovi - Keep the faith.
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post Jul 1 2009, 07:03 PM

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Marca stirring shits or for REAL? Lalala.
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post Jul 1 2009, 07:14 PM

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Uhh come on la bro. It's MARCA who has been claiming Madrid has successfully signed Ronaldo like yearsssss ago. We'll see how things go through. I really think it's a smokescreen for Alonso, Arbeloa and Ribery.

Fingers crossed! tongue.gif
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post Jul 1 2009, 08:35 PM

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order from Nike straight? or still from the official site?
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(pisces88 @ Jul 2 2009, 12:32 AM)
France's league is diffrent quality like England's.
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So does Germany's league. At least we have seen Benzema played against us. Plus, he's young compared to Ribery.

Well, not like he's already signed for us.

So, cocks in!
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post Jul 2 2009, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(FIFA site)
Lyon has confirmed that it has agreed to sell France international Karim Benzema to Real Madrid for 35 million euros. The deal was reached after Real agreed to up its offer from 32 million euros, the sports newspaper Marca reported.


Marca? Aduii .. come on guys ..
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post Jul 2 2009, 01:43 AM

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They will get Alonso, Arbeloa and Ribery. Yahuuuu! Makakeke now must belanja us Teh Tarik ...

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