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TSeric84cool
post May 20 2009, 06:59 PM, updated 17y ago

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Let's continue our discussion here. I'm trying my best to pull out information from the first thread and summarize it here for easy reference. If you wish your posts to be added, you can PM me so I can insert here. Hopefully this thread can also be used to organize gatherings, makan/drinking sessions and sports meet-ups.

FAQs

Employments:
Job opportunities are still good. Those with higher education level/experience stand a better chance and command a higher starting pay. Good command of English in resume writing or interview is a huge benefit. The following are the list of available online job sites:
1. Jobstreet
2. Contact Singapore
3. Jobs Central
4. JobsDB

The most effective but expensive method is to do it the old fashion way. Come over to Singapore, and then extend your visa to long term. During your stay in SG, flip through the recruitment newspaper and apply for your job through the company itself. This way, you're almost guaranteed to be in front of the queue from those who applied through Jobstreet. You can also attend their interviews without any delays while you're here in SG.

Various employment passes are available to enable you to work in Singapore depending on your skills and pay. Employers will help you in the application of passes. Your job is however pending on the approval of the pass. Information of types of passes are available through MOM's website. Do not worry of what passes you get. Eventually all will allow you to work in SG. Some do fuss about it due to "status" and extra benefits (i.e: credit card and contract phone applications). Just be hardworking and move up the passes or apply directly for PR few years down the road.

All you need to know about PR application and requirements are available here: http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150

Please take note that ex Singaporean PRs who renounced their status without serving the National Service will have their job and employment pass applications greatly degraded.

<Need more information on salary bracket and range in different industries to expand. Contributions greatly appreciated>

CPF and Taxes:
Malaysians working under employment/work passes are exempted from paying CPF. Singapore PRs have to contribute to CPF according to the rates found here: http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/C...es/ContriRa.htm

As for the complicated tax returns, i'll just provide the website so everyone can search under their own categories. http://www.iras.gov.sg/irasHome/page01.aspx?id=88

Accomodations:
HDBs everywhere! rclxub.gif Prime and new areas should cost around SGD450-600 per room (with or without utilities). You can still find sub SGD400 per room in remote or rundown areas. If you can afford the luxury, apartments and condos are the way to go. SGD800-1200 per room is the current market price. Normally comes with swimming pool and gym facilities.

Below are some useful sites:
http://www.flatsdb.com/
http://www.hdbflat.blogspot.com/
http://singapore.roomsdb.net/
http://easyroommate.com.sg/ (looks more like a dating site tongue.gif )
http://www.sg-house.com/

Transportation:
No need to describe any further. Been compared and discussed too many times between SG and MY. In SG, you can be anywhere in the island just by using public transport. The all too convenient EZ link card can be used in both MRT and bus (even McD yeah!). For places out of reach, taxi is the answer. Don't worry, you won't get touted with expensive fares. They are a bunch of professionals with accurate meters. First entry onto cab is SGD2.80 or SGD3.00. The rest runs on meter plus any surcharges from tolls, airport surcharge or stopping period. If you are travelling in group of 4, taxi is the cheaper option on certain routes compared to others.

SBS bus maps: http://www.sbstransit.com.sg/iris3/nextbus.aspx
MRT maps: http://www.smrt.com.sg/trains/images/tn_networkmap_big.jpg

Malaysians can drive in cars/bikes to work in SG. For SG PRs, you have to drive singapore registered vehicles. More info here: http://www.lta.gov.sg/motoring_matters/ind...oring_guide.htm

Expenses:
This is very subjective depending on the spending power of different individuals. But here are the basic breakdowns on rough estimates:
1. Accoms SGD600 (varies)
2. Food SGD500 (varies)
3. Transport SGD60
4. Entertainment SGD300 (strip it off if wanna save)
5. Shopping $$$

Forummers in SG:
1. nick (nicvoo) - work at jurong/bt merah (till end of august) bugis/lavender (beginning sept); live in tampines
2. wen (wyy) - work at outram; live in outram/tiong bahru
3. Louis (louismhc) - work at Tampines; live in Tampines
4. Daniel (yrh0413) - work at Jurong East, live in Marine Parade Rd
5. saintcute - work at harbourfront, live in serangoon
6. nameless - work at NYP Ang Mo Kio/Tanjong Pagar, live in Commonwealth
7. jeremy (ilikehandphones) - work at clementi, live in admiralty drive
8. sukhoi37 - work at Changi/Paya Lebar, live in Pasir Ris
9. tiny - work, live in Ang Mo Kio
10. ferdinand (washabushi) - live in clementi, work at toh guan(jurong east) - washabushi@msn.com
11. gld998 - live in Tiong Baru
12. mONSTers - work at Ayer Rajah Crescent, live in Kembangan
13. smuldge - work at Toa Payoh, live in Ang Mo Kio
14. ahwai_83 - work at raffles place/robinson rd, live in toa payoh
15. Joshua_0718 - work at Toh Guan Road (Jurong East), live in Kallang
16. wu ming - work, live in jurong west
17. aicescko - work at Tanjong Pagar, live in Woodlands
18. chess_girl - live in Bishan, work place...depending on audit assigned/wedding engagement??
19. eric84cool (eric84cool@hotmail.com) - live in Jurong West, work at Tuas South
20. Chris, stay : AMK, work : Woodlands / Admiralty, hooi15661@hotmail.com


Feel free to contribute and ammend any inaccuracies. THX! Let's roll.

so freaking lazy ar all of you...

This post has been edited by eric84cool: May 23 2009, 12:36 AM
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post May 20 2009, 08:57 PM

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1 very cool website to share with you guys.. it's http://gothere.sg/

just key in your FROM and TO place, it will show you the cheapest, fastest and smartest transportation method....

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post May 20 2009, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 20 2009, 08:57 PM)
1 very cool website to share with you guys.. it's http://gothere.sg/

just key in your FROM and TO place, it will show you the cheapest, fastest and smartest transportation method....
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cool site. thanks man!

meanwhile, I read back the previous forum...there are another group from cari forum. lotsa of members and activities, anybody got the link, I want to join but then don't know how to type in mandarin blush.gif
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post May 20 2009, 09:23 PM

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post May 20 2009, 09:54 PM

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wo0o0o0 v3 wat was the discussion in v2?
i jus saw chris wanna makan at chinatown haha
jus makan there not bad the food call 10 dishes + 2 beer for 4 ppl each person 17 bucks lol
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Dang... V2 got locked. Missed the chance to overtake the O&G thread by only a hundred plus posts. Well done, chaps.
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 20 2009, 09:05 PM)
cool site. thanks man!

meanwhile, I read back the previous forum...there are another group from cari forum. lotsa of members and activities, anybody got the link, I want to join but then don't know how to type in mandarin blush.gif
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chinese.cari.com.my

my nick there is same as here. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 20 2009, 09:54 PM)
wo0o0o0 v3 wat was the discussion in v2?
i jus saw chris wanna makan at chinatown haha
jus makan there not bad the food call 10 dishes + 2 beer for 4 ppl each person 17 bucks lol
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lets go then w00t.

come on people, dinner at chinatown this saturday ! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(seantang @ May 20 2009, 10:00 PM)
Dang... V2 got locked. Missed the chance to overtake the O&G thread by only a hundred plus posts. Well done, chaps.
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hahaha wats with the post count lol

QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 20 2009, 10:45 PM)
chinese.cari.com.my

my nick there is same as here.  biggrin.gif
lets go then w00t.

come on people, dinner at chinatown this saturday !  biggrin.gif
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post May 20 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 20 2009, 11:22 PM)
hahaha wats with the post count lol

Bragging rights, I guess. Like having the tallest twin towers in the world,.. absolutely useless but hey, it's the tallest twin towers in the world.

Anyway, was just a little bit cheesed that no one asked the rest of the folks in the V2 thread if they wanted to move to V3 or not. That time of the month... blush.gif

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post May 21 2009, 08:56 AM

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wu ming working at east side edi...no more west side...

chris : pocket tight la...unless u willing to treat me...next time i treat u back...hahaha
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post May 21 2009, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(washabushi @ May 21 2009, 08:56 AM)
wu ming working at east side edi...no more west side...

chris : pocket tight la...unless u willing to treat me...next time i treat u back...hahaha
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not asking u go eat expensive shit lah, we all budget budget 1, foodcourt will do lol. laugh.gif
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post May 21 2009, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ May 20 2009, 03:21 PM)
thanks a lot, it is so hard to reach the service agent of ICA with hot line and i couldnt get my previous employer sad.gif. i guess i'll proceed without that. my current employer filled in the Annex-A, will it be better if i have testimonial from him? or Annex-A is enough?

Regarding the pay slip and  income tax notice of assessment, i just received the income tax notice of assessment (1st time after work in SG for 3 years), since i only have 1 should i bring the IRA8 form (given by my previous company and current company years ago) to prove my income for previous years?
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congrats of V3, so fast... since the question is not answer so i quote it from V2

btw, mind to add me to the name list in the 1st post? B-Mecha, work in redhill, live in yew tee.

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ May 21 2009, 10:43 AM)
my current employer filled in the Annex-A, will it be better if i have testimonial from him? or Annex-A is enough?

Annex A to Form 4A is enough. What more can your current employer testify about you?

QUOTE(B-Mecha @ May 21 2009, 10:43 AM)
Regarding the pay slip and  income tax notice of assessment, i just received the income tax notice of assessment (1st time after work in SG for 3 years), since i only have 1 should i bring the IRA8 form (given by my previous company and current company years ago) to prove my income for previous years?

No need. I applied for PR 3 months after arriving in Sg... so I didn't have anything from IRAS, no previous employer etc etc. In Annex A, your current employer already states how much your current salary is. But I guess there's no harm if you want to submit your tax assessment as well.

I only submitted copies of the following with my application.

Explanatory Note Item #7
(a) passport
© work pass
(d) educational and professional certs
(f) birth cert
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QUOTE(seantang @ May 21 2009, 11:11 AM)
Annex A to Form 4A is enough. What more can your current employer testify about you?
No need. I applied for PR 3 months after arriving in Sg... so I didn't have anything from IRAS, no previous employer etc etc. In Annex A, your current employer already states how much your current salary is. But I guess there's no harm if you want to submit your tax assessment as well.

I only submitted copies of the following with my application.

Explanatory Note Item #7
(a) passport
© work pass
(d) educational and professional certs
(f) birth cert
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Same here.. I apply for PR after 1.5 month I reach Sg. I only submit 1 Pay slip, copies of passport / birth cert / work pass / degree certs / a testimonial from company and form 4A. My employer didn;t fill in Annex A.

If your are qualify for EP, most likely you will be able to get your PR.
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Hello...
I'm new here.
If work in Singapore and stay in JB. Can save a lot of money ?
If stay in JB, which part is safe ? smile.gif
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QUOTE(radish @ May 21 2009, 04:36 PM)
Hello...
I'm new here.
If work in Singapore and stay in JB. Can save a lot of money ?
If stay in JB, which part is safe ?  smile.gif
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mackiddo's doin tat can ask how much he save. he has a car by the way so u can imagine how much he saves tongue.gif

lol police lockup also not safe in jb hehehe
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Thanks for the fast reply.
Must be joking, police lokap also not safe ? tongue.gif

QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 21 2009, 04:41 PM)
mackiddo's doin tat can ask how much he save. he has a car by the way so u can imagine how much he saves tongue.gif

lol police lockup also not safe in jb hehehe
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QUOTE(radish @ May 21 2009, 04:48 PM)
Thanks for the fast reply.
Must be joking, police lokap also not safe ?  tongue.gif
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u dont know the biggest gangsta organization in Malaysia is actually the PDRM ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 21 2009, 04:51 PM)
u dont know the biggest gangsta organization in Malaysia is actually the PDRM ?  laugh.gif
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Ooo....update in contact list. anybody does cares or doesn't mind to update their contact if missed out and add MSN contact?

Start from ME 1st...
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lol my name never listed there. biggrin.gif

Chris, stay : AMK, work : Woodlands / Admiralty, hooi15661@hotmail.com
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i think mine already there...
anyway post again...

washabushi@fer
stay clementi(moving out soon again=( )
work toh guan road jurong east
washabushi@msn.com
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crap.. my PR just got approved! Now i have to forgo 14.5% of my employer CFP.... hu hu hu.... i was hopping that they would only reply me in June, so that when i get promoted (hopefully) in July, I can take my payslip and apply for another job!!!

Btw, I am going back KL tomorrow!!! Yes Yes Yes!!!


Added on May 22, 2009, 10:38 pmchris, when u going back?? we can go mamak! hahhaha

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 22 2009, 10:09 AM)
lol my name never listed there.  biggrin.gif

Chris, stay : AMK, work : Woodlands / Admiralty, hooi15661@hotmail.com
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QUOTE(washabushi @ May 22 2009, 11:40 AM)
i think mine already there...
anyway post again...

washabushi@fer
stay clementi(moving out soon again=( )
work toh guan road jurong east
washabushi@msn.com
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where r u going to shift?

QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
crap.. my PR just got approved! Now i have to forgo 14.5% of my employer CFP.... hu hu hu.... i was hopping that they would only reply me in June, so that when i get promoted (hopefully) in July, I can take my payslip and apply for another job!!!

Btw, I am going back KL tomorrow!!! Yes Yes Yes!!!


Added on May 22, 2009, 10:38 pmchris, when u going back?? we can go mamak! hahhaha
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WHAT?!SO COINCIDENCE??? I also just back to KL....CHris also from KL??? rclxub.gif
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hi guys..
i'll be going off the singapore today to check out my new room in Jurong West and meeting the other house tenants...

next week, i'll need to say goodbye to KL and say hello to Singapore. sad.gif

p/s:
@washabushi

Thanks for your help earlier on the accommodation suggestion.

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Welcome blessedvillian!

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Northern boy... cool2.gif
where r u going to shift?
WHAT?!SO COINCIDENCE??? I also just back to KL....CHris also from KL??? rclxub.gif
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dont know la...
sakit perut now...
i still finding
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 23 2009, 06:20 AM)
hi guys..
i'll be going off the singapore today to check out my new room in Jurong West and meeting the other house tenants...

next week, i'll need to say goodbye to KL and say hello to Singapore. sad.gif

p/s:
@washabushi

Thanks for your help earlier on the accommodation suggestion.
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when kaya raya edi just treat me minum air herba can edi...lolx tongue.gif


Added on May 23, 2009, 9:06 am
QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
crap.. my PR just got approved! Now i have to forgo 14.5% of my employer CFP.... hu hu hu.... i was hopping that they would only reply me in June, so that when i get promoted (hopefully) in July, I can take my payslip and apply for another job!!!

Btw, I am going back KL tomorrow!!! Yes Yes Yes!!!


Added on May 22, 2009, 10:38 pmchris, when u going back?? we can go mamak! hahhaha
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i tot u balik edi...sweat

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flight at 2pm.. soon soon....
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im thinking to find a single room, is that possible i can get it at $400 around jurong side?
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QUOTE(giorgene @ May 23 2009, 09:20 AM)
im thinking to find a single room, is that possible i can get it at $400 around jurong side?
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yes, it's possible...and top up a little to $450, you might get yourself a air con room. good luck hunting rooms and oh ya... start making a lot of calls to agents/owners
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
chris, when u going back?? we can go mamak! hahhaha
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dont know leh, mayb next month only go back lol. biggrin.gif

we should go eat HK chu chang fun ! tongue.gif


QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 23 2009, 12:38 AM)
WHAT?!SO COINCIDENCE??? I also just back to KL....CHris also from KL??? rclxub.gif
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well not really KL, its Kajang. Both me n Melissa. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 23 2009, 06:20 AM)
hi guys..
i'll be going off the singapore today to check out my new room in Jurong West and meeting the other house tenants...

next week, i'll need to say goodbye to KL and say hello to Singapore. sad.gif
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welcome to the Kiasu-Land ! biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 20 2009, 10:45 PM)
chinese.cari.com.my

my nick there is same as here.  biggrin.gif
lets go then w00t.

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hey, can provide me the link that lead straight to the topic itself ar? Aduh doh.gif I don't really good in reading mandarin la... doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

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Just out of curiosity, how many of you knew early on that you can go through the auto clearance gates at Sg immigration using only our Malaysian passports?

I only found out last Thursday night at Tuas immigration. Seems like I bodoh-bodoh wasted over 4 years queuing at the manual clearance counters when there was no need to. I wonder why the immigration officers never once made a remark or asked me why I didn't use the auto clearance gates instead.
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QUOTE(seantang @ May 23 2009, 02:27 PM)
Just out of curiosity, how many of you knew early on that you can go through the auto clearance gates at Sg immigration using only our Malaysian passports?

I only found out last Thursday night at Tuas immigration. Seems like I  bodoh-bodoh wasted over 4 years queuing at the manual clearance counters when there was no need to. I wonder why the immigration officers never once made a remark or asked me why I didn't use the auto clearance gates instead.
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oh ya, need to ask u all sumting...i start working in spore 20 april (EP), can i apply PR in july? hmm.gif nwadays need to mk e-appointment...haiz...sien...birth cert need to translate sumore...where? how? go to supreme court for d translation ka? where's supreme court wor? subordinate court i know lar - near MOM... cry.gif

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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 23 2009, 11:52 AM)
hey, can provide me the link that lead straight to the topic itself ar? Aduh  doh.gif  I don't really good in reading mandarin la... doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forumdisplay.php?fid=183


QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 23 2009, 12:33 PM)
lol my mandarin also rusty liao
teruk......
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stop being a nerd n come out more often, so that u can speak wif us then lol. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 20 2009, 08:57 PM)
1 very cool website to share with you guys.. it's http://gothere.sg/

just key in your FROM and TO place, it will show you the cheapest, fastest and smartest transportation method....
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Thanks for the link, its awesome.

BTW guys, how do I check my CPF account information...?
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hi guys,

i m fresh grad with Degree in EE and have been looking for a job for more than 3 month. sad.gif
i had plan to come down s'pore and find a job since most of my application thru job website do not coy any response from s'pore employers

i wanna ask is it higher chance to get an interview over s'pore instead of m'sia? what are the document that i shall bring along for employment ? is it true our visa only valid for 1 month , after 1 month we need to reapllly it ?

and finally, how was the electrical and electronic market currently doing in s'pore? any job opening ?

Suggestion and comment are most welcome as it is urgent as i am clueless now.

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QUOTE(Uchiha Itachi @ May 24 2009, 01:17 AM)
BTW guys, how do I check my CPF account information...?

You can access your CPF account if you have a Singpass. Actually Singpass will let you access quite a lot of govt portals, for eg your library record or immigration etc.

Just google for Singpass and you'll find a dedicated govt website teaching you how to apply for it.

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QUOTE(Joelion @ May 24 2009, 09:50 AM)
hi guys,

i m fresh grad with Degree in EE and have been looking for a job for more than 3 month.   sad.gif
i had plan to come down s'pore and find a job since most of my application thru job website do not coy any response from s'pore employers

i wanna ask is it higher chance to get an interview over s'pore instead of m'sia? what are the document that i shall bring along for employment ? is it true our visa only valid for 1 month , after 1 month we need to reapllly it ?

and finally, how was the electrical and electronic market currently doing in s'pore? any job opening ?

Suggestion and comment are most welcome as it is urgent as i am clueless now.
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E&E market in Singapore is as badly hit as Msia's or maybe worst. My bf is in this field and he was forced to take one day leave everyweek. No bonus, no promotion.

The visa you are talking about is the visitor's pass. To extent, simply just go out to JB and comes back in.

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QUOTE(Joelion @ May 24 2009, 09:50 AM)
hi guys,

i m fresh grad with Degree in EE and have been looking for a job for more than 3 month.  sad.gif
i had plan to come down s'pore and find a job since most of my application thru job website do not coy any response from s'pore employers

i wanna ask is it higher chance to get an interview over s'pore instead of m'sia? what are the document that i shall bring along for employment ? is it true our visa only valid for 1 month , after 1 month we need to reapllly it ?

and finally, how was the electrical and electronic market currently doing in s'pore? any job opening ?

Suggestion and comment are most welcome as it is urgent as i am clueless now.
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Did you graduate in Malaysia or Singapore? I had 2 friends who got first class and they could not even get any job after trying for 6 months. EE sector is definitely hit badly and according to my 2 friends Singapore jobs have higher requirement for EE fresh graduates.
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QUOTE(Uchiha Itachi @ May 24 2009, 01:17 AM)
Thanks for the link, its awesome.

BTW guys, how do I check my CPF account information...?
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www.cpf.gov.sg nod.gif
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 24 2009, 11:23 AM)
E&E market in Singapore is as badly hit as Msia's or maybe worst. My bf is in this field and he was forced to take one day leave everyweek. No bonus, no promotion.

The visa you are talking about is the visitor's pass. To extent, simply just go out to JB and comes back in.
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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 24 2009, 11:36 AM)
Did you graduate in Malaysia or Singapore? I had 2 friends who got first class and they could not even get any job after trying for 6 months. EE sector is definitely hit badly and according to my 2 friends Singapore jobs have higher requirement for EE fresh graduates.
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ya. i m graduated in m'sia (utp). actually, my major is in instrumentation and control. At 1st ,I wanna try on O&G comp but after few month trying. cannot secure a job as a fresh grad in this O&G field as most of them prefer exp worker. So, i thought by widen by my search in EE field. It could be a higher chances. blush.gif

That y, i plan to secure whatever an EE engineering job.

Do u think it is possible to come down s'pore and stay for few week while applying ? High chance to get an interview? sad.gif

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
crap.. my PR just got approved! Now i have to forgo 14.5% of my employer CFP.... hu hu hu.... i was hopping that they would only reply me in June, so that when i get promoted (hopefully) in July, I can take my payslip and apply for another job!!!

Btw, I am going back KL tomorrow!!! Yes Yes Yes!!!


Added on May 22, 2009, 10:38 pmchris, when u going back?? we can go mamak! hahhaha
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You get approved and straight contribute full rate? Normally for those case that you need to bear your employer CPF, you will start from the first rate which is 5% ( you) and 4.5%( employer).


Added on May 24, 2009, 8:47 pm
QUOTE(seantang @ May 23 2009, 02:27 PM)
Just out of curiosity, how many of you knew early on that you can go through the auto clearance gates at Sg immigration using only our Malaysian passports?

I only found out last Thursday night at Tuas immigration. Seems like I  bodoh-bodoh wasted over 4 years queuing at the manual clearance counters when there was no need to. I wonder why the immigration officers never once made a remark or asked me why I didn't use the auto clearance gates instead.
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No worry, the auto clearance using Malaysian passport is only started this year or end of 2008 if not mistaken, so you are not wasted 4 years queuing at manual clearance.

PS: you can use malaysian passport to do auto clearance only if you are singapore PR. All pass holder still need go through manual clearance or apply for access card.


Added on May 24, 2009, 8:50 pm
QUOTE(Joelion @ May 24 2009, 07:00 PM)
thx for the info  biggrin.gif


Added on May 24, 2009, 7:12 pm
ya. i m graduated in m'sia (utp). actually, my major is in instrumentation and control. At 1st ,I wanna try on O&G comp but after few month trying. cannot secure a job as a fresh grad in this O&G field as most of them prefer exp worker. So, i thought by widen by my search in EE field. It could be a higher chances. blush.gif

That y, i plan to secure whatever an EE engineering job.

Do u think it is possible to come down s'pore and stay for few week while applying ? High chance to get an interview?  sad.gif
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DO you have a singapore number for all your previous application? For me having a Singapore contact number is good enough so that they can contact you for interview more easily as they will have a mindset you are in Singapore.

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QUOTE(Joelion @ May 24 2009, 07:00 PM)
thx for the info  biggrin.gif


Added on May 24, 2009, 7:12 pm
ya. i m graduated in m'sia (utp). actually, my major is in instrumentation and control. At 1st ,I wanna try on O&G comp but after few month trying. cannot secure a job as a fresh grad in this O&G field as most of them prefer exp worker. So, i thought by widen by my search in EE field. It could be a higher chances. blush.gif

That y, i plan to secure whatever an EE engineering job.

Do u think it is possible to come down s'pore and stay for few week while applying ? High chance to get an interview?  sad.gif
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EE indeed you can branch into many fields. It will be better to stay in Singapore for a few weeks so you can go immediately if there is an interview. Then again, it's best you research on the chances of getting a job there. You should know that Singapore is an extremely competitive country. biggrin.gif

Why not try to get a job here first and then if you get another job offer in Singapore, go ahead. At least you don't waste too much of time idling. tongue.gif
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Hi, guys
I'm going to singapore to work soon.
Wanna ask about u all about the broadband over there...
How to apply and what are the options i have??
I have totally no idea about that. Thank you
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QUOTE(Joelion @ May 24 2009, 09:50 AM)
hi guys,

i m fresh grad with Degree in EE and have been looking for a job for more than 3 month.   sad.gif
i had plan to come down s'pore and find a job since most of my application thru job website do not coy any response from s'pore employers

i wanna ask is it higher chance to get an interview over s'pore instead of m'sia? what are the document that i shall bring along for employment ? is it true our visa only valid for 1 month , after 1 month we need to reapllly it ?

and finally, how was the electrical and electronic market currently doing in s'pore? any job opening ?

Suggestion and comment are most welcome as it is urgent as i am clueless now.
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I believed they will employ Sg & Sg PR 1st before considering employing foreigner. It make worst by the recent economy recession, a really bad timing for job seekers this year.


Added on May 24, 2009, 9:42 pm
QUOTE(kimurastanley @ May 24 2009, 09:35 PM)
Hi, guys
I'm going to singapore to work soon.
Wanna ask about u all about the broadband over there...
How to apply and what are the options i have??
I have totally no idea about that. Thank you
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what do you have in mind ? Wired or wireless ? Sg have 3 telcos; Singnet, M1 and Starhub. Can try google up on their website and look at their plans. Their services is reliable, very much better than the Msia telcos and cheaper too smile.gif


Added on May 24, 2009, 9:50 pm
QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 21 2009, 04:41 PM)
mackiddo's doin tat can ask how much he save. he has a car by the way so u can imagine how much he saves tongue.gif

lol police lockup also not safe in jb hehehe
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as long as you maintain 'low' profile then it is quite safe. How much you safe depends on how you spent and how much you earn laugh.gif . If you are working office hours, there will be some slight traffic inconvenience at the checkpoint sweat.gif . I don't work office hour, so i don't get caught in the rush hour jam rolleyes.gif . So how do you plan to travel ? car ? bike ? Getting a Sg car is the best option.

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Jimmy,

I get full 14.5% from my employer (Non-PR), now i get 5% cut for the cpf contribution... sigh...


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QUOTE(seantang @ May 23 2009, 02:27 PM)
Just out of curiosity, how many of you knew early on that you can go through the auto clearance gates at Sg immigration using only our Malaysian passports?

I only found out last Thursday night at Tuas immigration. Seems like I  bodoh-bodoh wasted over 4 years queuing at the manual clearance counters when there was no need to. I wonder why the immigration officers never once made a remark or asked me why I didn't use the auto clearance gates instead.
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I used to travel back to JB during weekend.. If not mistaken, it's only last year, where I notice suddenly the 2 special lane reserve for Sg passport used to be quite empty was so crowded. I was wondering why so many singaporean wanna jam with us. After a few weeks, I notice some of them are using dark red color Passport (malaysia), not the orange-red color passport. The Auto gate is actually not design for Malaysian PR, so they never mention about it. haha

The only one time I am asked to use the Auto clearance gate is when I travelling by KTM train. The office ask those who is Sg citizen / PR to use the Auto gates, as the Check point manual counter is so crowded but the auto gates is empty.


Added on May 24, 2009, 11:10 pm
QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 24 2009, 08:37 PM)
You get approved and straight contribute full rate? Normally for those case that you need to bear your employer CPF, you will start from the first rate which is 5% ( you) and 4.5%( employer).
the rate is given in http://mycpf.cpf.gov.sg/Members/Gen-Info/C...es/ContriRa.htm

The contribution rate suppose to be
1st year employee 5% / employer 4%
2nd year employee 15% / employer 9%
3rd year onwards, employee 20% / employer 14.5%

But you can negotiate to ask the company to pay Full 14.5%, and you pay the 5% for 1st year and 14.5%/15% for second year.
Or you and your company both pay the full amount (3rd year rate) from 1st day.

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QUOTE(seantang @ May 23 2009, 02:27 PM)
Just out of curiosity, how many of you knew early on that you can go through the auto clearance gates at Sg immigration using only our Malaysian passports?

I only found out last Thursday night at Tuas immigration. Seems like I  bodoh-bodoh wasted over 4 years queuing at the manual clearance counters when there was no need to. I wonder why the immigration officers never once made a remark or asked me why I didn't use the auto clearance gates instead.
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Are you talking bout the eIACS? If i'm not mistaken, it is only applicable for SPR with Malaysia passport, no?

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Where you guys playing? Field or court? Futsal 5v5?
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QUOTE(Uchiha Itachi @ May 24 2009, 08:15 PM)
Where you guys playing? Field or court? Futsal 5v5?
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Count me in, I would like to join to.
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where u guyz staying????I haven't start playing with them yet but soon will be...they're playing nearby Clementi station and it's football game. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(eric84cool @ May 25 2009, 02:12 AM)
where u guyz staying????I haven't start playing with them yet but soon will be...they're playing nearby Clementi station and it's football game. thumbup.gif
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where u guyz staying????I haven't start playing with them yet but soon will be...they're playing nearby Clementi station and it's football game. thumbup.gif
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i went singapore last week to check out the room that my agent recommended and it turns out to be really beyond my worst expectation. The HDB unit in Jurong West is supposedly a 3 rooms unit, but the owner has somehow partition it into a 5 rooms unit. Each rooms is twin sharing!! is this even allowed in singapore??

That's not the worst part....The agreement (luckily not signed yet), stated that light cooking is allowed, but when my gf ask about how "light" is light cooking, the owner says only we only allow to boil water and cook instant noodles!!!!!!

Thank God the agent managed to get back my deposit...

We went around Bukit Batok, Red Hill and Jurong West area to hunt for rooms, but the more rooms we see, the worse it gets... Some ads say aircon is provided means that standing air cooler is provided. Some single male owners insisted ONLY LADY tenant is allowed??!! that unit is filled with Vietnamese labors...

Is getting a room with decent housemates THAT HARD in spore??? My maximum budget is $700. Is this too low to get a decent place?

My new job in spore is starting next week and yet to find a place to stay. I'm OFFICIALLY screwed.

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 22 2009, 10:36 PM)
crap.. my PR just got approved! Now i have to forgo 14.5% of my employer CFP.... hu hu hu.... i was hopping that they would only reply me in June, so that when i get promoted (hopefully) in July, I can take my payslip and apply for another job!!!
may I know how tax calculation work for above scheme,
just following regular tax calculation including or excluding employer CPF?


also maybe I will be working in sgp starting next month.
I'm so clueless about salary tax, additional bonus tax, etc.
I know abit from IRAS web site about 15% and regular taxing scheme.
but a colleague of mine (non PR) states that he only pays 7.5% for income tax rclxub.gif
maybe he got the 7.5% number from certain regular tax rate combination based on his yearly income.

but I'm curious if 7.5% is cited in other references, do you guys ever heard of 7.5% yearly income tax rate?

thanks in advance. smile.gif
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 25 2009, 03:57 PM)
i went singapore last week to check out the room that my agent recommended and it turns out to be really beyond my worst expectation. The HDB unit in Jurong West is supposedly a 3 rooms unit, but the owner has somehow partition it into a 5 rooms unit. Each rooms is twin sharing!! is this even allowed in singapore??

That's not the worst part....The agreement (luckily not signed yet), stated that light cooking is allowed, but when my gf ask about how "light" is light cooking, the owner says only we only allow to boil water and cook instant noodles!!!!!!

Thank God the agent managed to get back my deposit...

We went around Bukit Batok, Red Hill and Jurong West area to hunt for rooms, but the more rooms we see, the worse it gets... Some ads say aircon is provided means that standing air cooler is provided. Some single male owners insisted ONLY LADY tenant is allowed??!! that unit is filled with Vietnamese labors...

Is getting a room with decent housemates THAT HARD in spore??? My maximum budget is $700. Is this too low to get a decent place?

My new job in spore is starting next week and yet to find a place to stay. I'm OFFICIALLY screwed.
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i dont know abt other area, but from what i know 700 can easily get a very decent master room in areas like Yishun or Woodlands.

good luck in ur room hunting. smile.gif
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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 25 2009, 04:57 PM)
i went singapore last week to check out the room that my agent recommended and it turns out to be really beyond my worst expectation. The HDB unit in Jurong West is supposedly a 3 rooms unit, but the owner has somehow partition it into a 5 rooms unit. Each rooms is twin sharing!! is this even allowed in singapore??

That's not the worst part....The agreement (luckily not signed yet), stated that light cooking is allowed, but when my gf ask about how "light" is light cooking, the owner says only we only allow to boil water and cook instant noodles!!!!!!

Thank God the agent managed to get back my deposit...

We went around Bukit Batok, Red Hill and Jurong West area to hunt for rooms, but the more rooms we see, the worse it gets... Some ads say aircon is provided means that standing air cooler is provided. Some single male owners insisted ONLY LADY tenant is allowed??!! that unit is filled with Vietnamese labors...

Is getting a room with decent housemates THAT HARD in spore??? My maximum budget is $700. Is this too low to get a decent place?

My new job in spore is starting next week and yet to find a place to stay. I'm OFFICIALLY screwed.
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With 700 bucks i am pretty sure you can get one decent room here but maybe ur expectation is different. Or maybe can try condo ? But seriously i wouldnt pay more than 500 bucks for a room in HDB

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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 25 2009, 03:57 PM)
i went singapore last week to check out the room that my agent recommended and it turns out to be really beyond my worst expectation. The HDB unit in Jurong West is supposedly a 3 rooms unit, but the owner has somehow partition it into a 5 rooms unit. Each rooms is twin sharing!! is this even allowed in singapore??

That's not the worst part....The agreement (luckily not signed yet), stated that light cooking is allowed, but when my gf ask about how "light" is light cooking, the owner says only we only allow to boil water and cook instant noodles!!!!!!

Thank God the agent managed to get back my deposit...

We went around Bukit Batok, Red Hill and Jurong West area to hunt for rooms, but the more rooms we see, the worse it gets... Some ads say aircon is provided means that standing air cooler is provided. Some single male owners insisted ONLY LADY tenant is allowed??!! that unit is filled with Vietnamese labors...

Is getting a room with decent housemates THAT HARD in spore??? My maximum budget is $700. Is this too low to get a decent place?

My new job in spore is starting next week and yet to find a place to stay. I'm OFFICIALLY screwed.
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Change your agent. Go to first page of this thread, there are few link that can help you to find rooms in HDB. Like other say, 700 is enough for you to get a decent room.
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700 for a master bedroom a bit hard...but possible

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QUOTE(silverwave @ May 24 2009, 09:21 PM)
EE indeed you can branch into many fields. It will be better to stay in Singapore for a few weeks so you can go immediately if there is an interview. Then again, it's best you research on the chances of getting a job there. You should know that Singapore is an extremely competitive country.  biggrin.gif

Why not try to get a job here first and then if you get another job offer in Singapore, go ahead. At least you don't waste too much of time idling.  tongue.gif
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yup, i trying too, but, it just diff to get a single interview. too competitive

nowadays the job market is full of fresh grad together with retrenched worker who are superior by having few year working exp.


Added on May 25, 2009, 5:12 pm
QUOTE(jimmy79 @ May 24 2009, 08:37 PM)
You get approved and straight contribute full rate? Normally for those case that you need to bear your employer CPF, you will start from the first rate which is 5% ( you) and 4.5%( employer).


Added on May 24, 2009, 8:47 pm

No worry, the auto clearance using Malaysian passport is only started this year or end of 2008 if not mistaken, so you are not wasted 4 years queuing at manual clearance.

PS: you can use malaysian passport to do auto clearance only if you are singapore PR. All pass holder still need go through manual clearance or apply for access card.


Added on May 24, 2009, 8:50 pm
DO you have a singapore number for all your previous application? For me having a Singapore contact number is good enough so that they can contact you for interview more easily as they will have a mindset you are in Singapore.
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i do keep some contacts. smile.gif thanks for ur reminder. will call them up once i'm in s'pore to check it up


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Count me in, I would like to join to.
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yeah, i wish to join u guys. miss football so much after grad. but ....................haih sad.gif

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QUOTE(blessedvillain @ May 25 2009, 03:57 PM)
That's not the worst part....The agreement (luckily not signed yet), stated that light cooking is allowed, but when my gf ask about how "light" is light cooking, the owner says only we only allow to boil water and cook instant noodles!!!!!!

Is getting a room with decent housemates THAT HARD in spore??? My maximum budget is $700. Is this too low to get a decent place?
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try to find choa chu kang or woodlands area, with 700 it is not hard to get a decent room (a bit hard for master bedroom). if the place is nice dont bother about cooking, usually house owner wont allow u to cook. my house owner doesn't even allow me to use gas stove, only a tiny electric water boiler so i can cook instant noodles.
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QUOTE(washabushi @ May 25 2009, 05:04 PM)
700 for a master bedroom a bit hard...but possible
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nope, not hard at all in the area that i mentions. in fact u most probably can get by 600 to 650.

i helped my fren look for 1 not too long ago, so i know that. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 25 2009, 05:22 PM)
nope, not hard at all in the area that i mentions. in fact u most probably can get by 600 to 650.

i helped my fren look for 1 not too long ago, so i know that.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(washabushi @ May 25 2009, 05:58 PM)
aiya...
he wan clementi area jurong east area
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i know lah, i juz letting anyone who might be interest know only. biggrin.gif
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Hi guys, I know this may not be the place to ask...but do you guys know whether it's possible to buy a SG prepaid number in KL?
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QUOTE(topmankl @ May 25 2009, 06:06 PM)
Hi guys, I know this may not be the place to ask...but do you guys know whether it's possible to buy a SG prepaid number in KL?
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No. you need to register the card with your ic/passport when u buy.
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QUOTE(topmankl @ May 25 2009, 06:06 PM)
Hi guys, I know this may not be the place to ask...but do you guys know whether it's possible to buy a SG prepaid number in KL?
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hi, topmankl...
(sory, i hv forgotten dat passport is needed for registration)


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QUOTE(washabushi @ May 25 2009, 05:58 PM)
aiya...
he wan clementi area jurong east area
very very mahal 1 this few place
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yalor yalor...even my fren hv to sleep in d living room...SGD 500 share wif another fren...

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hi chess gal...u working as ext auditor?(went to ur blog)how is the mkt condition for finance&audit position in sg?izzit good or its also being hit badly by the economic recession?thx....
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Do chess girl play chess with those uncle from HDB?
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where u guyz staying????I haven't start playing with them yet but soon will be...they're playing nearby Clementi station and it's football game. thumbup.gif
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how about futsal? anyone?
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heyz, i'm interested too.. but since football means need to buy boots, hahaha..
how about futsal? anyone?
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If can get 10 ppl, we can play futsal at jurong west, there is a futsal court called Fico..
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Do chess girl play chess with those uncle from HDB?
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i think she can pawn those unker anytime...
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If i want to apply for PR, can i translate my birth cert in Malaysia?
If I have to translate in Singapore, where is the place?

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QUOTE(giorgene @ May 26 2009, 09:58 AM)
If i want to apply for PR, can i translate my birthday cert in Malaysia?
If I have to translate in Singapore, where is the place?
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I never translate any my document into english so do my wife, we getting our PR without any problem .
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QUOTE(giorgene @ May 26 2009, 09:58 AM)
If i want to apply for PR, can i translate my birthday cert in Malaysia?
If I have to translate in Singapore, where is the place?

I don't think you have to translate any documents from Malaysia. After all, bahasa is one of the official languages in Singapore and not a 'foreign language'.

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QUOTE(seantang @ May 26 2009, 03:42 PM)
I don't think you have to translate any documents from Malaysia. After all, bahasa is one of the official languages in Singapore and not a 'foreign language'.
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In fact, Singapore national language is Bahasa. Same as their national anthem.
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when the time i applied EP, i provided them my cert in english version but they want malay version and then another colleague of mine provided them malay version cert, they want english version pulak!!
Are they tried to fooling around?
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they don't ask for translations for my EP and PR applications. smile.gif
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QUOTE(giorgene @ May 26 2009, 05:21 PM)
when the time i applied EP, i provided them my cert in english version but they want malay version and then another colleague of mine provided them malay version cert, they want english version pulak!!
Are they tried to fooling around?
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i do understand ur feelings...coz nowadays oni they become bit strict + guai lan ady...last time no need de...i went to MOM 3 times leh for my EP cry.gif coz my uni letter of completion dun hv d keywords (which they want vmad.gif)

applying PR oso need translation (my fren called d officer, they say any doc other than ENGLIST must translate) + book appointment on9... shakehead.gif sien

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My PR application went through smoothly, I did not translate my birth certificate.

But seriously getting PR in Singapore is a breeze, i booked my appointment at 10am, reached there 9.45, scanned my documents at the e-counter, then went in to sit, thinking it would be an hour or so before my turn. I took out my PSP to play, before i can even select my game, my number was called.

Sat there, chit-chat abit with the cute officer then off I go, everything less than 10 mins.

Less than 2 months, they sent me the 'welcome card'.

Yesterday I went to get my IC done in Kajang (Lost my IC >.<), Went there at 9.30am, take number (20 ppl in front of me), not many ppl but number wasnt moving.... finally got my picture taken at 12.30am and asked to balik tunggu 10 hari... >.<. 180 min/20 ppl = 9 mins per person.... okayla.. ader improvement.
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haha dun compare diff culture. but now wor my fren registration at JPN so fast reach there 8.30 am before 9 am oledi kow tim.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 26 2009, 09:36 PM)
My PR application went through smoothly, I did not translate my birth certificate.

But seriously getting PR in Singapore is a breeze, i booked my appointment at 10am, reached there 9.45, scanned my documents at the e-counter, then went in to sit, thinking it would be an hour or so before my turn. I took out my PSP to play, before i can even select my game, my number was called.

Sat there, chit-chat abit with the cute officer then off I go, everything less than 10 mins.

Less than 2 months, they sent me the 'welcome card'.

Yesterday I went to get my IC done in Kajang (Lost my IC >.<), Went there at 9.30am, take number (20 ppl in front of me), not many ppl but number wasnt moving.... finally got my picture taken at 12.30am and asked to balik tunggu 10 hari... >.<.  180 min/20 ppl = 9 mins per person.... okayla.. ader improvement.
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What's Da Requirement Of Getting PR? hmm.gif
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anyone interested to play futsal this sun?
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Count me in, please let me know the time and venue. How much people do we need?

I'll start a name list :

1. Giorgene
2. Uchiha Itachi

Those who are interested please copy the list above and add in your name, thanks.


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kind of boring housemates all go back home town
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What's Da Requirement Of Getting PR?  hmm.gif
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one of the requirement: please alight at Lavender MRT station... laugh.gif
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anyone interested to go for yam cha this weekend?
kind of boring housemates all go back home town
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w00t finally wanna take a break from being nerd ? tongue.gif

i might be ard bugis during the weekend, where do u hav in mind ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Uchiha Itachi @ May 27 2009, 06:56 PM)
Count me in, please let me know the time and venue. How much people do we need?

I'll start a name list :

1. Giorgene
2. Uchiha Itachi

Those who are interested please copy the list above and add in your name, thanks.
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1. Giorgene
2. Uchiha Itachi
3. Giorgene's friend
4. Giorgene's friend
5. Giorgene's friend
6. Giorgene's friend

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For the Ipohites in Singapore, Firefly will be commencing one flight a day on 1,3,5,7 between SIN & IPH starting July 12. One way is around RM90 fare + RM80 tax. Beats the 8 hour bus ride, if you ask me.

We asked for this. Now that it's here, we'd better support it.

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QUOTE(seantang @ May 28 2009, 10:55 AM)
For the Ipohites in Singapore, Firefly will be commencing one flight a day on 1,3,5,7 between SIN & IPH starting July 12. One way is around RM90 fare + RM80 tax. Beats the 8 hour bus ride, if you ask me.

We asked for this. Now that it's here, we'd better support it.
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How about SIngapore to Subang? KLIA is soo freaking far despite I stay in Kajang. Just so inconvenient at times.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ May 28 2009, 02:44 PM)
How about SIngapore to Subang? KLIA is soo freaking far despite I stay in Kajang. Just so inconvenient at times.
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Of course there are couple for flights daily for Sg <---> Subang.
The good thing is the price is in RM even u fly from Sg..
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what's the best way to travel to KL then? tongue.gif

Normally I just take KTM from Tanjong Pagar... get a bed and sleep the whole journey. The next morning the officer will wake everyone up. tongue.gif

Moreover it is cheap... only less than RM50
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ May 28 2009, 04:30 PM)
what's the best way to travel to KL then? tongue.gif

Normally I just take KTM from Tanjong Pagar... get a bed and sleep the whole journey. The next morning the officer will wake everyone up. tongue.gif

Moreover it is cheap... only less than RM50
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i think 1 way bus ticket to kl cost u around rm50
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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ May 28 2009, 04:30 PM)
what's the best way to travel to KL then? tongue.gif

Normally I just take KTM from Tanjong Pagar... get a bed and sleep the whole journey. The next morning the officer will wake everyone up. tongue.gif

Moreover it is cheap... only less than RM50
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hmm.gif i oni tk Causeway Link bus (Friday 7pm) => reach KL 12am, for me, for d time being, dis is d best way coz my ofis @ IBP, juz 5-min walk tongue.gif SGD 49 (2-way)

i would like to try other ways to go bek KL...other buses(but thinking bout d destination... sweat.gif Pudu > convenient for me leh)...flight (but thinking of d cost, sweat.gif )...firefly? train less than RM50 ( brows.gif not bad ar)

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QUOTE(giorgene @ May 28 2009, 03:34 PM)
Of course there are couple for flights daily for Sg <---> Subang.
The good thing is the price is in RM even u fly from Sg..

Ya, SIN-Subang flights are starting very soon, early June / next week if I'm not wrong.

For me, flying is a no-brainer. Buses between Ipoh & Sg takes 8 hours and always starts at 10am or 10pm. You have to choose between wasting a day of annual leave on the bus, or becoming a zombie the next morning (or again waste your holiday sleeping it off).

This is a god-send. I can go back to Ipoh two weekends each month and only use up 1 day of annual leave (ie. 2 half days on Friday to catch the afternoon flight). In fact, I can go back every weekend and only use 2 days leave.

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QUOTE(fbjkl @ May 28 2009, 05:24 PM)
hmm.gif i oni tk Causeway Link bus (Friday 7pm) => reach KL 12am, for me, for d time being, dis is d best way coz my ofis @ IBP, juz 5-min walk  tongue.gif SGD 49 (2-way)

i would like to try other ways to go bek KL...other buses(but thinking bout d destination... sweat.gif Pudu > convenient for me leh)...flight (but thinking of d cost, sweat.gif )...firefly? train less than RM50 ( brows.gif not bad ar)
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I tried bus before... comfortable but the time is awkward. Reach KL around midnight is dangerous and troublesome to my parents/friends. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 28 2009, 07:49 PM)
ipoh got airport ???

Good one tongue.gif

It's actually a very cun one for us, cos it's right in the middle of town... like seriously in the middle of town. About 10 minutes from town center and 10 minutes from the major suburbs of Ipoh Gdn, Canning Gdn, Bercham etc. It's actually easier for me to get to the airport than to the bus station.

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Added on May 28, 2009, 10:45 pm
QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 28 2009, 09:56 AM)
w00t finally wanna take a break from being nerd ?  tongue.gif

i might be ard bugis during the weekend, where do u hav in mind ?  biggrin.gif
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all also come here b nerd jus tat sum hav better options no need to be nerd during weekends rclxub.gif

also can wat time?
who else wana join?
can go for steamboat dinner if want

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 28 2009, 10:43 PM)
all also come here b nerd jus tat sum hav better options no need to be nerd during weekends  rclxub.gif

also can wat time?
who else wana join?
can go for steamboat dinner if want
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w00t steamboat. biggrin.gif

who wanna go ? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 29 2009, 12:41 AM)
w00t steamboat.  biggrin.gif

who wanna go ?  biggrin.gif
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friday can ?

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QUOTE(yrh0413 @ May 28 2009, 04:30 PM)
what's the best way to travel to KL then? tongue.gif

Normally I just take KTM from Tanjong Pagar... get a bed and sleep the whole journey. The next morning the officer will wake everyone up. tongue.gif

Moreover it is cheap... only less than RM50
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Where to buy ticket or can book online, need to book early or not? I wanna try it le.
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 28 2009, 11:45 PM)
friday can ?
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means 2molo leh, so fast. sweat.gif

but if got people on i'm ok lol. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kockroach @ May 28 2009, 11:57 PM)
Where to buy ticket or can book online, need to book early or not? I wanna try it le.
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https://intranet.ktmb.com.my/e-ticket/login.asp

the Senandung Malam is good for travel from KL to SG. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 29 2009, 12:59 AM)
means 2molo leh, so fast.  sweat.gif

but if got people on i'm ok lol.  biggrin.gif
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if not tomorrow night drinks also can
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 29 2009, 12:02 AM)
https://intranet.ktmb.com.my/e-ticket/login.asp

the Senandung Malam is good for travel from KL to SG.  biggrin.gif
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usually need to book or just go there buy straight 1? hehe
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ May 29 2009, 12:06 AM)
if not tomorrow night drinks also can
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lets gather the gang 1st. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(kockroach @ May 29 2009, 12:08 AM)
usually need to book or just go there buy straight 1? hehe
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i so far all were buy online n then print it out.
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hmm, maybe next time I go back also take ktm, take bus always no ticket 1.


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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 29 2009, 12:02 AM)
https://intranet.ktmb.com.my/e-ticket/login.asp

the Senandung Malam is good for travel from KL to SG.  biggrin.gif
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From SG to KL not good meh?

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i no prob jus gif me a call u hav my num right??

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QUOTE(kockroach @ May 29 2009, 12:14 AM)
From SG to KL not good meh?
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from SG to KL the price will be in SGD.

unless u buy return ticket : KL->SG->KL then it will all in MYR.


QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 29 2009, 01:04 AM)
i no prob jus gif me a call u hav my num right??
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see how it goes 1st, need to find more kaki lol. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(kockroach @ May 29 2009, 12:14 AM)
From SG to KL not good meh?
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KL -> SG is around RM50... SG -> KL is around SGD50. The dollar value is the same, just that it is 2.4x more expensive to get the tickets from Singapore.

What I normally do is to buy return tickets online. Just forecast when is the next trip back to KL (normally 1st weekend of the month) and grab the tickets via online booking. So far this is the cheapeast option for me.
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I tried bus before... comfortable but the time is awkward. Reach KL around midnight is dangerous and troublesome to my parents/friends. sweat.gif
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ya, i do agree wif u...as for me, it's more convenient coz NEARER to my house... tongue.gif hv 2 b very very careful lor...
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oi where r all the kaki?
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 29 2009, 07:26 PM)
oi where r all the kaki?
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tomolo got kaki o not?

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ May 29 2009, 07:02 PM)
sigh suan le bah
tomolo got kaki o not?
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i wil b at town area 2molo, but not sure free or not, mayb can go for dinner. biggrin.gif

juz give me a cal if u guys are up to something.
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ May 29 2009, 10:33 PM)
i wil b at town area 2molo, but not sure free or not, mayb can go for dinner.  biggrin.gif

juz give me a cal if u guys are up to something.
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hi malaysians in singapore.

do you get teased from your friends for being kiasu just because you're working in singapore? if yes, how you deal with them?
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QUOTE(quintessential @ May 30 2009, 12:05 AM)
hi malaysians in singapore.

do you get teased from your friends for being kiasu just because you're working in singapore? if yes, how you deal with them?

Do you need to 'deal' with them? If you really feel you have to respond... tease them back about earning less than half of what you do, and still pay more tax to build mosques and MARA colleges. Smart...

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Do you need to 'deal' with them? If you really feel you have to respond... tease them back about earning less than half of what you do, and still pay more tax to build mosques and MARA colleges. Smart...
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End of this year FireFly will fly from Sg to Melaka...

I am looking forward to it.
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I am looking forward to it.

But Melaka is only 3 hours from Singapore by bus. After you factor in the time you spend checking in and waiting in the departure hall, flying won't save you much time.

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wow damn now u can really fly to anywhere in msia haahaha
but for mlk i stil lthink ppl will prefer to drive then takin a plane
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QUOTE(seantang @ May 30 2009, 01:01 PM)
But Melaka is only 3 hours from Singapore by bus. After you factor in the time you spend checking in and waiting in the departure hall, flying won't save you much time.
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YOu cant imagine in holiday how long you will need spend on the road.

Ummm, my hometown's in Ipoh... whatever you can describe... been there, done that, and literally doing it tomorrow. Only the Penang and Alor Setar folks are one up when it comes to road trips from Singapore.

Btw, any of you folks thinking of buying a car? I'm thinking the Kia Cerato Forte as an OPC to drive home. Should be around 25K.

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Ummm, my hometown's in Ipoh... whatever you can describe... been there, done that, and literally doing it tomorrow. Only the Penang and Alor Setar folks are one up when it comes to road trips from Singapore.

Btw, any of you folks thinking of buying a car? I'm thinking the Kia Cerato Forte as an OPC to drive home. Should be around 25K.
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you should have buy it a beginning of the year. now COE is almost back to normal.

I should have bought a lot of shares as well... but as the Cantonese say "yau cho chi, mou hak yee".

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Didn't know this thread existed....

i've been working in S'pore for 8 years.
2 years in westin hotel / prego restaurant at city hall mrt & 6 years in singapore post center at paya lebar mrt.

i stayed in ang mo kio, toa payoh, redhill, clementi & bukit gombak before.

it's a very very hard life there as a permit holder....
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QUOTE(seantang @ May 30 2009, 08:11 PM)
I should have bought a lot of shares as well... but as the Cantonese say "yau cho chi, mou hak yee".
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but this is different coz you could see the COE crashed smile.gif ..at least save you around 5k minimum
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ May 31 2009, 09:22 AM)
but this is different coz you could see the COE crashed smile.gif  ..at least save you around 5k minimum

I could see all the stock markets crash end of last year, early this year as well... just like COE a few months ago. But the point being, did you think it was a V shaped crash or L shape or U shape? I expected COEs to stay around 1-2K for a few more months as dealers slash prices to move inventory. I thought I could wait. Obviously, I've been wrong so far.

But then again, 3-6 months ago I was less secure at work than now. So although COE was zero, I wasn't considering a car because I didn't know how long more I'd be in Sg.

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how much cash i need to prepare if i wan to buy hdb cost me around 250-300k?
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how much cash i need to prepare if i wan to buy hdb cost me around 250-300k?

Generally 10%, I think. But you need to do some detailed research because there are a lot of variables involved... like if it's new, whether you're buying first time, if resale.. how much is the amount over valuation, whether you take HDB or bank loan, your CPF balance in the different accounts, whether you qualify for HDB grants etc.

Nobody here will be able to give you any numbers without having to work through the different scenarios on your behalf.

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how much cash i need to prepare if i wan to buy hdb cost me around 250-300k?
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No bank will give a loan to purchase a HDB flat without at least a 20% downpayment. You also need to add in the legal fees (approx 1500-2000), stamp duties (3 percent of valuation minus 5,600 as an approximate) and payments to the housing agent for the buyer side (1% of transacted sale amount).

Depending on the flat condition (and some of the older ones are in really bad condition), you might need to fork out additional $$ to pay for renovation costs.

Cash over valuation amounts are much less nowadays compared to the heights of the property boom in Sinapore in 2007 - one should not pay more than SGD10,000 for COV in today's market and it is not uncommon to see trasactions done at valuation amount or even below that.

Only Singaporean citizens and PRs can buy HDB flats (EP holders are not eligible). Singaporean PRs are not eligible to buy HDB flats as a single, there are several schemes where PRs can purchase HDB flats e.g. as a married couple, siblings, etc. Check out the HDB site for more info. Also, PRs can only purchase resale flats (no new flats), no HDB loan grants (only Singapore citizens are entitled to the SGD40K grant) and are not eligible for HDB loans but you may take commercial bank loans.


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For me, I m happy to hear that Firefly will fly from Sg to Subang..
Coz if flying to LCCT/KLIA, I have to pay more and spend more time on the road..

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http://www.davincithegenius.com/singapore/

looks interesting, anyone wanna go ? biggrin.gif
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http://www.davincithegenius.com/singapore/

looks interesting, anyone wanna go ?  biggrin.gif

Should be interesting, but museums and the arts in Singapore tend to be disappointing if you've ever been to one of the established exhibits or shows in US and Europe, or even Australia and China.

I've been to the National Museum of Singapore, Singapore Art Museum, Peranakan Museum, Science Center, Discovery Center, 1497 Exhibition and watched Phantom at the Esplanade... each time I ended up walking away thinking "damn, I paid money for that?"...

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i'm thinking about going one of the saturday...

but sgd 15 for it ...
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but sgd 15 for it ...

That's the same price as a ticket to the Louvre. The Summer Palace is half that. The Smithsonian is free.
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New here to this forum....

Been working in singapore for the past 1 yr + after graduation....

Staying in chua choo kang while working in tuas....

As a native johor-ian, i go back to JB once per week..


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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 2 2009, 11:56 PM)
Should be interesting, but museums and the arts in Singapore tend to be disappointing if you've ever been to one of the established exhibits or shows in US and Europe, or even Australia and China.

I've been to the National Museum of Singapore, Singapore Art Museum, Peranakan Museum, Science Center, Discovery Center, 1497 Exhibition and watched Phantom at the Esplanade... each time I ended up walking away thinking "damn, I paid money for that?"...
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anyway i'm definitely going for the Da Vinci exhibition, mayb next month. if anyone else interested maybe we can go together. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(Celebrex @ Jun 3 2009, 06:26 AM)
New here to this forum....

Been working in singapore for the past 1 yr + after graduation....

Staying in chua choo kang while working in tuas....

As a native johor-ian, i go back to JB once per week..
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hey guys/gurls,

i wanna noe any1 working on accounting field at sg ther? i plan to work over ther.

i hav 3 years of xp in audit and tax on both local firm and big4. a CPA holder. do u guys tink i stand a chance over ther?

i plan to fly over ther by next month as i hv no intention to apply thru jobstreet or others.. employers will tend to ignore my resume since im not singaporean nor PRs..


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i hav 3 years of xp in audit and tax on both local firm and big4. a CPA holder. do u guys tink i stand a chance over ther?

Do you have a degree? MICPA, ICPAS or Australian/US CPA?

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i plan to fly over ther by next month as i hv no intention to apply thru jobstreet or others.. employers will tend to ignore my resume since im not singaporean nor PRs..

So, you're just going to walk up to their offices? You have at least sent a resume in and been called for an interview, right?


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hi there, how do u find it in S'pore?
was it hard to apply for permit since you're a native johorian?
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For my case, my parents sent me to study in Singapore ever since primary school.....

Did my secondary and tertiary education also in Singapore...

Was offered permanant residentship upon graduation from polytechnic, was like 5 years ago.....

I do find life in Sg quite hectic and crowded almost everywhere....


It used to be very easy to get Singapore PR a couple of years back even for a person with a pay of roughly 1k SGD..

Generally, if u earn more, your chances of PR ship would be higher regardless of nationality...


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COEs up again this month... shucks...
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I'm not working in Singapore but I travel there regularly. Never knew there's this thread in LYN. smile.gif
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Only sucks if your gonna buy a car. Which is similarly overpriced like in malaysia.

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Do you have a degree? MICPA, ICPAS or Australian/US CPA?

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i plan to fly over ther by next month as i hv no intention to apply thru jobstreet or others.. employers will tend to ignore my resume since im not singaporean nor PRs..

So, you're just going to walk up to their offices? You have at least sent a resume in and been called for an interview, right?
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yes i hav both degree and Aus CPA. Isnt ther any walk in interview rite?
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jun 4 2009, 08:38 AM)
Only sucks if your gonna buy a car. Which is similarly overpriced like in malaysia.

I do want to get a car, sick of buses and trains esp going back home. Anyway, I think the COE is spiking prematurely just like the stock markets.

And with SIN-IPH flights, I can wait a while and see what happens.


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yes i hav both degree and Aus CPA. Isnt ther any walk in interview rite?

A degree plus professional qualification should put you on equal footing with most Sg accounting graduate job seekers. If your Big4 experience is solid, I think the opportunities are still there as you'll edge out the freshies and those coming from smaller firms.

However, if you don't send in your resume first, how are you going to get interviews?


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Is it possible to use a malaysian car in singapore for an extended period of time. Since it would be a waste unless you are thinking of being a PR in singapore for long term basis.
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Is it possible to use a malaysian car in singapore for an extended period of time. Since it would be a waste unless you are thinking of being a PR in singapore for long term basis.
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You would need to pay a levy of SGD30 per day of driving a Malaysian registered car in Singapore (excluding weekends which is free) and it is also subject to a maximum number of days you can do so per year.

This ruling effectively prevents a flood of Malaysian registered cars plowing the roads of Singapore.


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I thought the levy was 20 SGD and that would be each time you entered into singapore from malaysia on weekdays.

Is there a semi-permanent system like i pay a fee where i would be able to use a malaysian vehicle in singapore, and not commute from malaysia into singapore?


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I thought the levy was 20 SGD and that would be each time you entered into singapore from malaysia on weekdays.

Is there a semi-permanent system like i pay a fee where i would be able to use a malaysian vehicle in singapore, and not commute from malaysia into singapore?
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Come to think of it, I believe it's SGD20 instead of SGD30.

Thee's also a flat COE charge of SGD5 for Malaysian registered cars if you are driving into ERP designated areas.

There is no such system otherwise the Singaporean drivers would exploit this loophole and a flood of Malaysian vehicles would be in Singapore roads.

Also, Singapore PRs and those on long term social visit passes are not allowed to drive Malaysian registered cars in Singapore.


Added on June 4, 2009, 11:08 amThe only "loophole" would be to stay in Johor and commute daily to and from Singapore with a Malaysian registered motor vehicle.



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Walk in interview lor.. Unless, Sg co. din use this kind of interview process.. If not, then i will juz send my resume over ther when i reach ther..

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I am going to SG on 21st June. Want to meet up? I haven't met any of you guys b4 biggrin.gif



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actually it's quite convenience to drive in SG. After so many years of driving in Sg, I found it less hectic compare to places like KL. Work place also provide free & sheltered parking.
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QUOTE(yiivei @ Jun 4 2009, 12:03 PM)
Walk in interview lor.. Unless, Sg co. din use this kind of interview process.. If not, then i will juz send my resume over ther when i reach ther..

The only places I've seen that have walk in interviews for graduate level positions are factories and hotels. If you're targeting big audit firms or MNCs, I'm afraid the receptionist might not even buzz you in through the security door. For eg. my office has no receptionist in the reception area. Only a telephone which works only if you know what extension to dial.

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actually it's quite convenience to drive in SG. After so many years of driving in Sg, I found it less hectic compare to places like KL. Work place also provide free & sheltered parking.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 4 2009, 05:32 PM)
The only places I've seen that have walk in interviews for graduate level positions are factories and hotels. If you're targeting big audit firms or MNCs, I'm afraid the receptionist might not even buzz you in through the security door. For eg. my office has no receptionist in the reception area. Only a telephone which works only if you know what extension to dial.
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I agree with seantang, you have to book a time, not turn up unexpectedly. It would look very very weird if you just show up without any appointment. No every HR Manager would wait there for ppl to show up for interview unless it is advertised in the media.

Good luck though.


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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 4 2009, 05:32 PM)
The only places I've seen that have walk in interviews for graduate level positions are factories and hotels. If you're targeting big audit firms or MNCs, I'm afraid the receptionist might not even buzz you in through the security door. For eg. my office has no receptionist in the reception area. Only a telephone which works only if you know what extension to dial.
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I got no idea bout that. Thanks for the heads-up.

Now, my plan is to fly over there 1st. Then get a local newspaper to hunt for suitable jobs to send out my application. After tat, wait for them to call me up for an interview.

Does Sg got varies newspaper like Msia does? If yes, which newspaper is highly recommended?

Thanks in advance.


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I agree with seantang, you have to book a time, not turn up unexpectedly. It would look very very weird if you just show up without any appointment. No every HR Manager would wait there for ppl to show up for interview unless it is advertised in the media.

Good luck though.
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Thanks for the reminder.

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Now, my plan is to fly over there 1st. Then get a local newspaper to hunt for suitable jobs to send out my application. After tat, wait for them to call me up for an interview.
In this economy, you could be in Singapore for while.

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Does Sg got varies newspaper like Msia does? If yes, which newspaper is highly recommended?
Of course it does. Straits Times on Saturday is the job seekers' street directory.

Check out http://www.efinancialcareers.sg/as well. The site's more banking finance oriented but sometimes has straight finance and accounting jobs. One thing though is that the majority of the jobs are mid career ie. you've got at least 5 years experience and probably already drawing 5-10K. But then again, there's always the rest of the minority.

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I checked this out before and remember that it was SGD30.00 then. Not sure if it has been revised. You'll have to buy an Sg car if you want to drive into Sg regularly. sad.gif
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Come to think of it, I believe it's SGD20 instead of SGD30.

Thee's also a flat COE charge of SGD5 for Malaysian registered cars if you are driving into ERP designated areas.

There is no such system otherwise the Singaporean drivers would exploit this loophole and a flood of Malaysian vehicles would be in Singapore roads.

Also, Singapore PRs and those on long term social visit passes are not allowed to drive Malaysian registered cars in Singapore.


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QUOTE(Precious-Living @ Jun 5 2009, 01:26 AM)
I checked this out before and remember that it was SGD30.00 then. Not sure if it has been revised. You'll have to buy an Sg car if you want to drive into Sg regularly. sad.gif
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It is SGD20 now and it have been quite a while since the last hiked.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 4 2009, 10:48 PM)
In this economy, you could be in Singapore for while.

Check out http://www.efinancialcareers.sg/as well. The site's more banking finance oriented but sometimes has straight finance and accounting jobs. One thing though is that the majority of the jobs are mid career ie. you've got at least 5 years experience and probably already drawing 5-10K. But then again, there's always the rest of the minority.
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do you happen to have relatives in singapore? best to stay with your relatives as it will be close to a month before getting any replies. Local graduates from NTU and SMU are graduating real soon, so most probably local firm will hire the locals first since they are eligible for the Job;s credit scheme (Gov subsidies local staff cost).

A risk to take to come here without a job.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 5 2009, 11:11 AM)
yiivei,

do you happen to have relatives in singapore? best to stay with your relatives as it will be close to a month before getting any replies. Local graduates from NTU and SMU are graduating real soon, so most probably local firm will hire the locals first since they are eligible for the Job;s credit scheme (Gov subsidies local staff cost).

A risk to take to come here without a job.
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Graduating soon? I thought they have graduated in May, no?
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or was it SMU, i forgot. Cause usually my firm has 2 intakes but now reduce to only one intake in sept.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 5 2009, 11:11 AM)
yiivei,

do you happen to have relatives in singapore? best to stay with your relatives as it will be close to a month before getting any replies. Local graduates from NTU and SMU are graduating real soon, so most probably local firm will hire the locals first since they are eligible for the Job;s credit scheme (Gov subsidies local staff cost).

A risk to take to come here without a job.
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Ya. I do take note of that. Tats wat worrying me. I got friends over ther. I can bump at their place w/o worries.. Btw, i hav no intention to re-join audit line..
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chess_gal has got a point. The Jobs Credit Scheme makes local employees (citizens and PRs) around S$300 per month cheaper in cash terms vs previously. After tax, it's around S$375 since the cash payment from the govt are tax free and I have not heard that the tax deduction claimed on employee salaries is reduced by this amount.

So if the job pays 3K, a Singaporean or PR will actually be 10+% cheaper than before. This scheme compensates the employer for the 14% employers CPF contribution that they have to pay for locals but not foreigners. It basically narrows the cost advantage of employing foreigners over locals.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 5 2009, 01:49 PM)
chess_gal has got a point. The Jobs Credit Scheme makes local employees (citizens and PRs) around S$300 per month cheaper in cash terms vs previously. After tax, it's around S$375 since the cash payment from the govt are tax free and I have not heard that the tax deduction claimed on employee salaries is reduced by this amount.

So if the job pays 3K, a Singaporean or PR will actually be 10+% cheaper than before. This scheme compensates the employer for the 14% employers CPF contribution that they have to pay for locals but not foreigners. It basically narrows the cost advantage of employing foreigners over locals.
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If same amount 3k paid to foreigners and locals, employer doesn't have to pay 14.5% CPF to foreigners, right?
I don't get u..

Or u mean employer needs to pay tax for foreigners, but the CPF paid to locals will be compensated by Jobs Credit Scheme?

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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jun 5 2009, 05:41 PM)
If same amount 3k paid to foreigners and locals, employer doesn't have to pay 14.5% CPF to foreigners, right?

Right.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 5 2009, 05:54 PM)
Right.
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why company prefer locals compare to foreigners? since they don't have to pay 14.5% CPF..
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jun 5 2009, 06:15 PM)
why company prefer locals compare to foreigners? since they don't have to pay 14.5% CPF..

Like I said initially, the employers won't get job credits for foreigners.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 5 2009, 06:55 PM)
Like I said initially, the employers won't get job credits for foreigners.
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Now I understand, company get tax free for the job credits that compensate CPF contribution, right?
Although employer doesn't have to pay CPF to foreigners, but the good thing to hire locals is they get tax free job credit to cover the CPF contribute to locals.
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jun 5 2009, 08:49 PM)
Now I understand, company get tax free for the job credits that compensate CPF contribution, right?
Although employer doesn't have to pay CPF to foreigners, but the good thing to hire locals is they get tax free job credit to cover the CPF contribute to locals.

Yup, you've got it. At least that's what I think is the unpublicised intention of job credits anyway.

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For a company, there is a quota on how many Foreigner they can employ base on how many Local Citizen / PR they have.
For example: maybe for every Sg citizen, they can employ 5 foreigner. And in these 5 foreigner, only 2 can be holder of WP, 2 can be S-pass and the other 2 must be holder of Q-pass or higher. If there is no such quota, all the company will employ many Foreign worker, and there will be no job for the local.. Since local always ask for more. There is a levy for WP holder and EP holder at different rate.


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Come to think of it, I believe it's SGD20 instead of SGD30.

Thee's also a flat COE charge of SGD5 for Malaysian registered cars if you are driving into ERP designated areas.


Added on June 4, 2009, 11:08 amThe only "loophole" would be to stay in Johor and commute daily to and from Singapore with a Malaysian registered motor vehicle.
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It;s a flat ERP charge of SGD5 to your AutoPass, not COE.

If you are a SPR staying in JB will not allow you to drive your Malaysia registered vehicle into Sg. Only EP / WP holder can do that.
They are suppose to get a SG Driving license after staying in SG for more than 1 year. But I believe many of the driver didn't convert their license.


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For a company, there is a quota on how many Foreigner they can employ base on how many Local Citizen / PR they have.
For example: maybe for every Sg citizen, they can employ 5 foreigner. And in these 5 foreigner, only 2 can be holder of WP, 2 can be  S-pass and the other 2 must be holder of Q-pass or higher. If there is no such quota, all the company will employ many Foreign worker, and there will be no job for the local.. Since local always ask for more. There is a levy for WP holder and EP holder at different rate.
Locals always ask for higher salary, but if a company hire foreigners or PR, they can expect them to work harder than locals for the same or lower salary.
I think most of the foreigners come here to make money, of course will work harder to make life better..
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When you mention taht locals alw ask for higher salary, any source to support your claim? If you are referring to labour worker, aunty uncles at food court, perhaps yes.

But if you are referring to professionals talent, then I think locals and the foreigners are on equal opportunity and pay scale. At least that is what I think and encounter at my work place.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 6 2009, 01:05 PM)
When you mention taht locals alw ask for higher salary, any source to support your claim? If you are referring to labour worker, aunty uncles at food court, perhaps yes.

But if you are referring to professionals talent, then I think locals and the foreigners are on equal opportunity and pay scale. At least that is what I think and encounter at my work place.
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if think naively then what you said is true, every countries had discrimination problem such as discrimination based on nationality. even in countries such as UK has it or Australia has it. i don't think Singapore can be excluded out of it, plus i have friends that worked there and said that the countries are discriminating against malaysian because singaporean thinks that they are better than us
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QUOTE(omniknight86 @ Jun 6 2009, 02:40 PM)
if think naively then what you said is true, every countries had discrimination problem such as discrimination based on nationality. even in countries such as UK has it or Australia has it. i don't think Singapore can be excluded out of it, plus i have friends that worked there and said that the countries are discriminating against malaysian because singaporean thinks that they are better than us
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they are not ? in term of equal opportunity for all, we have already lost out to them.
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 6 2009, 09:06 PM)
they are not ? in term of equal opportunity for all, we have already lost out to them.
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ya, we are worse. we are not equal even among our ownself. Thanks to the Malays thinking of Ketuanan Melayu and they think that this land belong to them and we are just outsider. third class thinking no wonder many people leave this country smile.gif
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haha outsiders ? we had contributions to economy leh. but that is why indonesia and malaysia culture is diff fr singapore. wat we can do ? not many thinks like mahathir.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 6 2009, 01:05 PM)
When you mention taht locals alw ask for higher salary, any source to support your claim? If you are referring to labour worker, aunty uncles at food court, perhaps yes.

But if you are referring to professionals talent, then I think locals and the foreigners are on equal opportunity and pay scale. At least that is what I think and encounter at my work place.
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Sorry no proof. It's for the entry level. not experienced staff. Example from my company is Like tat. A Singaporean guy with NS, salary is about $500-$700 higher than a guy w/o NS.. and these guys, (at least 3 ppl I talked to) still complaining salary too low.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 6 2009, 01:05 PM)
When you mention taht locals alw ask for higher salary, any source to support your claim? If you are referring to labour worker, aunty uncles at food court, perhaps yes.

But if you are referring to professionals talent, then I think locals and the foreigners are on equal opportunity and pay scale. At least that is what I think and encounter at my work place.
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totally disagree sg freshie in my industry min 2.7k msia wif 1-2y xp 2.5k
lol so wheres the equal opportunity?

can chk this out on the pay if u join the civil service

http://www.scdf.gov.sg/Career/index.html so far i think only they post the salary online
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 7 2009, 11:49 AM)
totally disagree sg freshie in my industry min 2.7k msia wif 1-2y xp 2.5k
lol so wheres the equal opportunity?

Let's be clear. Are you talking about Singaporeans vs PRs or locals (Singaporeans & PRs) vs foreigners?

If it's Singaporeans vs Malaysian PRs (or PRs of any other nationality), then I think chess_gal is absolutely correct. I have not seen nor heard nor experienced a situation where citizens and PRs have different payscales. Of course, that doesn't mean that the salaries are 100% identical because within every pay scale, there is a range of salaries. But then this range discrepancy will apply to everybody under the same pay scale. At the end of the day, in terms of job level, salary scale and seniority (ie. years of service calculation in case of retrenchment), they are the same. If not, it is discrimination. And if I'm not mistaken, it is a criminal offence.

If it's locals vs foreigners... of course there is a difference. Their resident status and employment status are different. Their legal responsibilities, entitlements and commitments are different. You cannot expect them to receive the same salary, no?

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QUOTE(Celebrex @ Jun 3 2009, 06:30 PM)
For my case, my parents sent me to study in Singapore ever since primary school.....

Did my secondary and tertiary education also in Singapore...

Was offered permanant residentship upon graduation from polytechnic, was like 5 years ago.....

I do find life in Sg quite hectic and crowded almost everywhere....
It used to be very easy to get Singapore PR a couple of years back even for a person with a pay of roughly 1k SGD..

Generally, if u earn more, your chances of PR ship would be higher regardless of nationality...
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i see, school days for u must be hectic travelling in & out of JB. some students travel into s'pore as early as 4am.

i think u guys don't sing the s'pore national anthem right?
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 7 2009, 02:02 PM)
Let's be clear. Are you talking about Singaporeans vs PRs or locals (Singaporeans & PRs) vs foreigners?

If it's Singaporeans vs Malaysian PRs (or PRs of any other nationality), then I think chess_gal is absolutely correct. I have not seen nor heard nor experienced a situation where citizens and PRs have different payscales. Of course, that doesn't mean that the salaries are 100% identical because within every pay scale, there is a range of salaries. But then this range discrepancy will apply to everybody under the same pay scale. At the end of the day, in terms of job level, salary scale and seniority (ie. years of service calculation in case of retrenchment), they are the same. If not, it is discrimination. And if I'm not mistaken, it is a criminal offence.

If it's locals vs foreigners... of course there is a difference. Their resident status and employment status are different. Their legal responsibilities, entitlements and commitments are different. You cannot expect them to receive the same salary, no?
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as i said in my industry which is construction
msian/hk/china/Filipino/Burmese or wherever pr n sg citizen diff promotion or pay scale.well how do u prove tat there's discrimination for not promoting/paying u more? complain to mom tat ur boss did not promote u?? its very subjective

local vs foreigners depending on wat "kind" of foreigner. the ang mo vs the asian foreigner both same qualification jus come from diff country n back ground who gets paid more??

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 7 2009, 10:01 PM)
as i said in my industry which is construction
msian/hk/china/Filipino/Burmese or wherever pr n sg citizen diff promotion or pay scale.well how do u prove tat there's discrimination for not promoting/paying u more? complain to mom tat ur boss did not promote u?? its very subjective
Are you a PR and if you are, are you getting a very different salary from your Singaporean peers?

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local vs foreigners depending on wat "kind" of foreigner. the ang mo vs the asian foreigner both same qualification jus come from diff country n back ground who gets paid more??
I don't know about yours, but in my company and most of the MNCs, the pay is the same. I for one, will not accept it otherwise. The only difference is if they are here as expats.

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hi guys, i got an important update for PR application.

applicant need to have appointment for the full submission!!!!!

this morning, i went to lavender ICA building at 7am. the officer told me that i need to have appointment before i can do the full submission. i can go through e appointment or submit the Form 4A (the application form) WITHOUT the supporting documents into the drop off box at the ICA building (which is what i did). 3-5 working days later ICA will send me a appointment letter and assign me a time to do the full submission (need to bring the supporting documents + photocopy).

they just changed it not long ago so... sad.gif

reference link: http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150

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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Jun 8 2009, 08:44 AM)
hi guys, i got an important update for PR application.

applicant need to have appointment for the full submission!!!!!

this morning, i went to lavender ICA building at 7am. the officer told me that i need to have appointment before i can do the full submission. i can go through e appointment or submit the Form 4A (the application form) WITHOUT the supporting documents into the drop off box at the ICA building (which is what i did). 3-5 working days later ICA will send me a appointment letter and assign me a time to do the full submission (need to bring the supporting documents + photocopy).

they just changed it not long ago so...  sad.gif

reference link: http://www.ica.gov.sg/page.aspx?pageid=151&secid=150
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I know that since long time ago.. whistling.gif whistling.gif
anyway, thanks for the info..

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thanks for the information
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i beleive we shud add tat info on first page?
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 7 2009, 10:36 PM)
Are you a PR and if you are, are you getting a very different salary from your Singaporean peers?

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local vs foreigners depending on wat "kind" of foreigner. the ang mo vs the asian foreigner both same qualification jus come from diff country n back ground who gets paid more??
I don't know about yours, but in my company and most of the MNCs, the pay is the same. I for one, will not accept it otherwise. The only difference is if they are here as expats.
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nope not pr n yes diff salary from wat i know very much diff.

even designation n responsibilities are diff eventhough the local eng n the foreign one have the same amount of xp and capabilities.

i' know filipino/china engineers who hav 10-20years of xp worked all around the world in mega projects yet come to sg they r only designated as engineers not even senior title which is same as me who have only 2-3years xp. pay wise no need me to say gua impossible engineer get snr engineer pay right? y work here u say? jus like u n me the currency rate exceeds wat they get in their home country.

as u said u will not accept who does?
if an ang mo got into the comp same post as u will u know his salary? salary figures r mostly kept p&c unless u r abloody good fren of his n he tells u or u know hr very well

anyway the info i got also is hear say (from sum reliable sos n see the working situation wif my own eyes) no b&w impossible for me to prove to u the pay figure of each employee ang mo or other wise. so dont need to be so serious smile.gif peace


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Better to make e-appoinment, save a lot of hassle!
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 8 2009, 05:55 PM)
nope not pr n yes diff salary from wat i know very much diff.

even designation n responsibilities are diff eventhough the local eng n the foreign one have the same amount of xp and capabilities.

i' know filipino/china engineers who hav 10-20years of xp worked all around the world in mega projects yet come to sg they r only designated as engineers not even senior title which is same as me who have only 2-3years xp. pay wise no need me to say gua impossible engineer get snr engineer pay right? y work here u say? jus like u n me the currency rate exceeds wat they get in their home country.

These sound like work permit or employment pass holders, not PRs. If so, then it's to be expected. Nobody will pay the foreigners more than what it takes to get them here.

Same thing for locals, but for the fact that the employer cannot employ beyond a certain ratio of locals vs foreigners. So if there are more foreigners going for jobs allocated to foreigners but fewer locals going for jobs allocated for locals, then you have a disparity. No country in the world (except maybe the Eiddle East) will allow your workforce to be 100% foreign by the exclusion of locals.

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if an ang mo got into the comp same post as u will u know his salary? salary figures r mostly kept p&c unless u r abloody good fren of his n he tells u or u know hr very well

I think my company is quite transparent in that the payscales are published on the intranet and our job titles reveal exactly which job level we're at. If you're an expat, it's also common knowledge.

If that angmoh is not an expat but is paid higher than me, it's because he's on a higher pay scale ie.. higher ranked than me. If we're both doing exactly the same job, then it's a matter of why is someone who's higher ranked doing the same thing as I am. In my company, this is something I can bring up to my supervisor and expect a serious answer. And we have asked the question too because not long ago, our peers in the Shanghai office were often 1 or 2 levels higher than us but doing the same job. The reason given is that because the job market in Shanghai is very competitive and MNCs needed to pay more to hire English speaking Chinese. Our feedback was that the salary scales for Shanghai should be adjusted upwards, instead conveniently slotting them into a higher job rung... causing a mismatch of experience/capability vs managerial authority. This has since been rectified.

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These sound like work permit or employment pass holders, not PRs. If so, then it's to be expected. Nobody will pay the foreigners more than what it takes to get them here.

Same thing for locals, but for the fact that the employer cannot employ beyond a certain ratio of locals vs foreigners. So if there are more foreigners going for jobs allocated to foreigners but fewer locals going for jobs allocated for locals, then you have a disparity. No country in the world (except maybe the Eiddle East) will allow your workforce to be 100% foreign by the exclusion of locals.

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if an ang mo got into the comp same post as u will u know his salary? salary figures r mostly kept p&c unless u r abloody good fren of his n he tells u or u know hr very well

I think my company is quite transparent in that the payscales are published on the intranet and our job titles reveal exactly which job level we're at. If you're an expat, it's also common knowledge.

If that angmoh is not an expat but is paid higher than me, it's because he's on a higher pay scale ie.. higher ranked than me. If we're both doing exactly the same job, then it's a matter of why is someone who's higher ranked doing the same thing as I am. In my company, this is something I can bring up to my supervisor and expect a serious answer. And we have asked the question too because not long ago, our peers in the Shanghai office were often 1 or 2 levels higher than us but doing the same job. The reason given is that because the job market in Shanghai is very competitive. Our feedback was that the salary scales for Shanghai should be adjusted upwards, instead conveniently slotting them into a higher job rung... causing a mismatch of experience/capability vs managerial authority. This has been rectified.
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nope no wp vs local/pr. even filipino wif pr or china wif citizenship with master still are sadly not graded up to a citizen level.

well good for your comp for the transparency level not all comps practice tat. i havent seen any comp in the industry i'm working in do that.

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 8 2009, 06:35 PM)
nope no wp vs local/pr. even filipino wif pr or china wif citizenship with master still are sadly not graded up to a citizen level.

well good for your comp for the transparency level not all comps practice tat. i havent seen any comp in the industry i'm working in do that.
It's not like they point a gun to their heads and force the foreign PRs to accept a lower salary than the locals, no? At the end of the day, companies will only pay you what it takes to keep you. You can't expect them to increase your salary to match someone else if they know you're not going to leave even though you're being paid less.

Anyway, we've just proven that the Singapore job market is not homogenous. What is the norm in one company or industry may not be the norm in others.

So the next time someone asks if Singaporean companies favour local born Singaporeans over foreign born ones / PRs etc, perhaps we cannot be too quick to confirm a motherhood YES or NO. Obviously, it depends.

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 8 2009, 06:35 PM)

nope no wp vs local/pr. even filipino wif pr or china wif citizenship with master still are sadly not graded up to a citizen level.

well good for your comp for the transparency level not all comps practice tat. i havent seen any comp in the industry i'm working in do that.
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my company treats everyone the same, employment pass, PR or Singaporean, all subjected to the same salary scale. But then again, it's an American company. They tend to treat everyone fairly.

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Same here, my firm even allow foreigners to take 4 mths of maternity leave (Subject to approval la), though the government only subsidised local employees.

Perhaps Nicvoo's industry is very much localised, thus the Chinaman mentality. International corporation cannot afford to be too bias, otherwise may reflect badly on them. You know corporate image, corporate responsibilities are highly regarded in western companies.
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i'm here new, though i worked in singapore for about 9 months dy.
my friend told me about you guys having gathering and talks...

any gathering lately?

i'm staying in yishun, working in yiochukang
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ermm... no one wants to meet up with me on 21st june?
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hi everyone here,

i'm here new, though i worked in singapore for about 9 months dy.
my friend told me about you guys having gathering and talks...

any gathering lately?

i'm staying in yishun, working in yiochukang
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come AMK eat Botak Jones wif me this saturday lah. laugh.gif
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Hi guys,

I need your advice here:-

SGD 1.00 = RM 2.40
AUD 1.00 = RM 2.80
AUD 1.00 = SGD 1.10

Tat's mean if i use my SGD to convert all to AUD and then convert back to RM, I will gain alot on this? Anyone try this before?

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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 10 2009, 11:38 AM)
Hi guys,

I need your advice here:-

SGD 1.00 = RM 2.40
AUD 1.00 = RM 2.80
AUD 1.00 = SGD 1.10

Tat's mean if i use my SGD to convert all to AUD and then convert back to RM, I will gain alot on this? Anyone try this before?
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nope. it'll never work sad.gif
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where will u be ? town area ?  laugh.gif
come AMK eat Botak Jones wif me this saturday lah.  laugh.gif
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dude, i'm from cari also...hehe
i know akfoo and baimunan them...

but cari ppl all speak mandarin, so i tot of coming here in lowyat, to find some english speaking malaysian for gathering...

this saturday, let me confirm with you! smile.gif

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How is it there?
Compare to Malaysia.
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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 10 2009, 11:38 AM)
Hi guys,
I need your advice here:-

SGD 1.00 = RM 2.40
AUD 1.00 = RM 2.80
AUD 1.00 = SGD 1.10

Tat's mean if i use my SGD to convert all to AUD and then convert back to RM, I will gain alot on this? Anyone try this before?
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i suppose its not like that coz the buy price is always different with the sell price.


QUOTE(titanhrk @ Jun 10 2009, 01:07 PM)
dude, i'm from cari also...hehe
i know akfoo and baimunan them...

but cari ppl all speak mandarin, so i tot of coming here in lowyat, to find some english speaking malaysian for gathering...

this saturday, let me confirm with you! smile.gif
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haha ya i guess so coz i think i saw ur nick before. laugh.gif

nvm lah u wan me speak english wif u also can 1. biggrin.gif


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Hi.
How is it there?
Compare to Malaysia.
I mean the positive part that Malaysia don't have.
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well the more obvious 1 :

- general safety
- public transport
- more organized Infrastructure / facility

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ok, let say my salary is SGD 2,500 per month

If I dun convert to AUD, I straight convert to RM, I will get RM 6,000

If I convert to AUD 1st, I will get AUD 2,273, ok I will take AUD 2,273 bring back M'sia to convert to RM and I will get RM 6,364.

I will gain RM 364.

What's ur view on this?
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i suppose its not like that coz the buy price is always different with the sell price.
haha ya i guess so coz i think i saw ur nick before.  laugh.gif

nvm lah u wan me speak english wif u also can 1.  biggrin.gif


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well the more obvious 1 :

- general safety
- public transport
- more organized infrastruction / facility
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hehe, good good,
actually don't get me wrong in my previous post.
its not that i despise ppl that speak mandarin, just that i have been speaking a lot of mandarin since i came here and i think my english is getting 'koyak'...
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hope to see you soon bro! smile.gif

oh ya, how often do lowyat ppl do gathering in sg?


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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jun 10 2009, 01:19 PM)
i suppose its not like that coz the buy price is always different with the sell price.

Chrisky's spot on. All currency transactions will have a lower buy and higher sell price (from the bank or money changer's perspective). That represents the spread which the bank or money changer profits from.

So when you buy, they give you their higher sell price. And when you sell, they give you their lower buy price. It's like a casino. They've already calculated all the possibilities when they set their spread. You cannot beat them at their own game.

Besides, if there was such a big kapla jumping on the street, would you be the first person to capitalise on it? No... right?

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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
ok, let say my salary is SGD 2,500 per month

If I dun convert to AUD, I straight convert to RM, I will get RM 6,000

If I convert to AUD 1st, I will get AUD 2,273, ok I will take AUD 2,273 bring back M'sia to convert to RM and I will get RM 6,364.

I will gain RM 364.

What's ur view on this?
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lulz,
plz refer to chrisky post

buying rate and selling rate are different
this is where most of the money changer earn the money...

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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
ok, let say my salary is SGD 2,500 per month

If I dun convert to AUD, I straight convert to RM, I will get RM 6,000

If I convert to AUD 1st, I will get AUD 2,273, ok I will take AUD 2,273 bring back M'sia to convert to RM and I will get RM 6,364.

I will gain RM 364.

What's ur view on this?
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yea, technically speaking you are correct, but just as what chrisky said, the buy price is always different than sell price.

and if you do the maths, you only earn like 6 percent. nod.gif
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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 10 2009, 01:28 PM)
ok, let say my salary is SGD 2,500 per month

If I dun convert to AUD, I straight convert to RM, I will get RM 6,000

If I convert to AUD 1st, I will get AUD 2,273, ok I will take AUD 2,273 bring back M'sia to convert to RM and I will get RM 6,364.

I will gain RM 364.

What's ur view on this?
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yes u will gain but never do that in a long run.
save the money in SGD not in RM because the value drops tremendously.
so even though the exchange rate is high, convert the money when it's needed to be spent like:
to buy property, cars or etc.
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I know the spread.. what the rates quoted is just the middle rate based on today's rate.


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I know the spread.. what the rates quoted is just the middle rate based on today's rate.

What's the 'middle rate'?

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I know the spread.. what the rates quoted is just the middle rate based on today's rate.
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Go ahead if u tink its work. No 1 gonna force u. Ppl ald told u the selling/buying rate is different. Tats how money changer makes money from it.
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I know the spread.. what the rates quoted is just the middle rate based on today's rate.
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hmmm, so what are you trying to imply? hmm.gif
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hehe, good good,
actually don't get me wrong in my previous post.
its not that i despise ppl that speak mandarin, just that i have been speaking a lot of mandarin since i came here and i think my english is getting 'koyak'...
lol
hope to see you soon bro! smile.gif

oh ya, how often do lowyat ppl do gathering in sg?
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haha no prob lah, i'm equally comfortable in speaking english with people, althought that doesn't mean my english is very good. tongue.gif

we here ah... not much gathering lol. juz sometimes we went out to hav a drink n chill out only. hey since u stay Yishun we can meet up easily coz i work around Admiralty. biggrin.gif
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where will u be ? town area ?  laugh.gif
come AMK eat Botak Jones wif me this saturday lah.  laugh.gif
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I will be coming on sunday morning 21st. My colleague book hotel in Orchard Square Court, i suppose it is orchard road la hor. Then sunday I'm free lor. Monday have to masuk office. so sien sad.gif
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QUOTE(zenwell @ Jun 10 2009, 02:45 PM)
I will be coming on sunday morning 21st. My colleague book hotel in Orchard Square Court, i suppose it is orchard road la hor. Then sunday I'm free lor. Monday have to masuk office. so sien sad.gif
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u coming to work here ?

well i never heard of Orchard Square Court... Orchard Grand Court i know lah, u sure u got the name right ? biggrin.gif

anyway i'll be ard town on that day, so i'm ok to meet up. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jun 10 2009, 02:57 PM)
u coming to work here ?

well i never heard of Orchard Square Court... Orchard Grand Court i know lah, u sure u got the name right ?  biggrin.gif

anyway i'll be ard town on that day, so i'm ok to meet up.  smile.gif
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oh yeah, the place is called orchard grand court. sorry ya my mistake. paiseh. hehe. I will reach around noon i think. can meet up no problem. but don't ask me to suggest place la. cos i dunno mah.

i'm coming to my company's singapore office only la, not work here permanently.
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haha no prob lah, i'm equally comfortable in speaking english with people, althought that doesn't mean my english is very good.  tongue.gif

we here ah... not much gathering lol. juz sometimes we went out to hav a drink n chill out only. hey since u stay Yishun we can meet up easily coz i work around Admiralty.  biggrin.gif
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lol. that's cool.
good to know you bro!

ey how come seldom see you come out to cari gathering, my usual gang is coldice them.
though sometimes i'll join for volleyball and other group of ppl.

i don't like to be alone T_T. hell, i never tot i'll be here in singapore either. hehehe, but its really cool to have some friends in singapore.

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anybody up for drinks this saturday night

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QUOTE(zenwell @ Jun 10 2009, 04:02 PM)
oh yeah, the place is called orchard grand court. sorry ya my mistake. paiseh. hehe. I will reach around noon i think. can meet up no problem. but don't ask me to suggest place la. cos i dunno mah.

i'm coming to my company's singapore office only la, not work here permanently.
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well i'll see how it goes n confirm wif u again haha. i'll let u hav my contact by that time. biggrin.gif


QUOTE(titanhrk @ Jun 10 2009, 05:09 PM)
lol. that's cool.
good to know you bro!

ey how come seldom see you come out to cari gathering, my usual gang is coldice them.
though sometimes i'll join for volleyball and other group of ppl.

i don't like to be alone T_T. hell, i never tot i'll be here in singapore either. hehehe, but its really cool to have some friends in singapore.
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haha i joined cari long time but only started to be more active in the sg section recently, ard a month ago or so. biggrin.gif

dont usually join those sport gathering coz i sux tongue.gif but got go play basketball near Jurong lah haha.

go join our AMK gang there lah, since u oledi know akfoo n ah soon. tongue.gif

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any one know how is the area around Buona Vista MRT? is the rate for hlb for a room around SGD$500-700 reflect the actual rate there? thanks ya
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for whoever that might be interested. biggrin.gif

http://www.singapore-attractions.com/coupon.pdf
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any futsal kaki at east side? desperately looking for people to play. If can weeknights will be the best. I would be happy to pick you guys up and send you guys back smile.gif Sigh im desperate!

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if u willing to pick me up...
i dont mind joining...
but i staying at west side...
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For those who are working in singapore, I was wondering what does the job market for chemical engineers look like?
I'm currently applying in malaysia, was hoping to get a job in singapore if possible.

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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 11 2009, 01:54 PM)
any futsal kaki at east side? desperately looking for people to play. If can weeknights will be the best. I would be happy to pick you guys up and send you guys back smile.gif Sigh im desperate!
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I'm joining my friends for futsal every wed at jurong west..
If u want to play at east side, i should be ok, count me in..
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ok great we have three people now. i actually don't mind if your friends want to join along. I just want to play:) guys pm me your email or contact numbers. or even better if you already have some playing kaki's I wouldn't mind joining you guys.

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QUOTE(Raikkonen @ Jun 10 2009, 01:14 PM)
Hi.

How is it there?
Compare to Malaysia.
I mean the positive part that Malaysia don't have.
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whos that girl crying in your siggeh? so cute :3 & sad
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well i'll see how it goes n confirm wif u again haha. i'll let u hav my contact by that time.  biggrin.gif

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ok,

hopefully there'll be other forumers joining as well. I don't mind the location cos I don't actually know SG very well tongue.gif you guys juz suggest a good place and let me know where is it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Meets @ Jun 11 2009, 02:17 PM)
Hi,

For those who are working in singapore, I was wondering what does the job market for chemical engineers look like?
I'm currently applying in malaysia, was hoping to get a job in singapore if possible.
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In Singapore from what i see, chemical engineerings especially those with 2 or more years of experience are quite in demand.

I work in a pharmaceutical MNC, within like 6 months, the company hired like 4-5 chemical engineers over in the production side...

Not sure about the petrolchemical sector, i think should be the same situation bah.... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 11 2009, 01:54 PM)
any futsal kaki at east side? desperately looking for people to play. If can weeknights will be the best. I would be happy to pick you guys up and send you guys back smile.gif Sigh im desperate!
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dont know how to play, juz wanna run ard for fun can join or not ? laugh.gif


QUOTE(zenwell @ Jun 11 2009, 05:15 PM)
ok,

hopefully there'll be other forumers joining as well. I don't mind the location cos I don't actually know SG very well tongue.gif you guys juz suggest a good place and let me know where is it.  laugh.gif
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since u'll be in Orchard area i guess we can juz find a place nearby for drinks as there plenty of them there. laugh.gif
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anybody up for drinks this saturday night
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time ? place ? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 11 2009, 01:54 PM)
any futsal kaki at east side? desperately looking for people to play. If can weeknights will be the best. I would be happy to pick you guys up and send you guys back smile.gif Sigh im desperate!
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count me in, can fetch me and my fren ah? we at east side. drop mrt station oso can hehe. we can play in east coast park. my legs are itchy too.
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Hello,
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It is possible to drive a car with Malaysian plate number on a daily basis?
Just temporary , maybe for 2-3 months.

Is speaking mandarin provide better advantage? Most Singaporean speaks mandarin, not cantonese.

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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jun 11 2009, 11:11 PM)
time ? place ?  laugh.gif
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any suggestions ? I am allright for friday also
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QUOTE(t0p_man @ Jun 11 2009, 11:23 PM)
Hello,
plan to join workforce in S'pore soon.

It is possible to drive a car with Malaysian plate number on a daily basis?
Just temporary , maybe for 2-3 months.

Is speaking mandarin provide better advantage? Most Singaporean speaks mandarin, not cantonese.
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sure its possible... but it cost sgd20 per day for non-holiday. so u can do the math, like let say 1 month got 24 working days, so 24 X 20...

u gonna pay more than 1k rm a month ! n thats not including the parking fee. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jun 11 2009, 11:34 PM)
sure its possible... but it cost sgd20 per day for non-holiday. so u can do the math, like let say 1 month got 24 working days, so 24 X 20...

u gonna pay more than 1k rm a month ! n thats not including the parking fee.  biggrin.gif
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I see.
Is there any second hand car in Singapore?
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QUOTE(Supreme Allied Commander @ Jun 11 2009, 11:33 PM)
any suggestions  ?  I am allright for friday also
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not sure abt 2molo, if on i would ok wif town area lah. biggrin.gif

let u know 2molo. biggrin.gif
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not sure abt 2molo, if on i would ok wif town area lah.  biggrin.gif

let u know 2molo.  biggrin.gif
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I see.
Is there any second hand car in Singapore?
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sure there are 2nd hand car dealers here, but i not familiar with it coz never thought of getting a car here lol. biggrin.gif

mayb the others will hav better idea.
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I see.
Is there any second hand car in Singapore?
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ok on
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whats ur location anyway ? let me hav ur number so if i on i'll sms u. biggrin.gif

mine is :

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whats ur location anyway ? let me hav ur number so if i on i'll sms u.  biggrin.gif

mine is :

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sent u sms me in the east
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Lots of 2nd hand cars in Sg. It's because after roughly 5 years in, the amount you get when you sell - the amount you need to pay off the remainder of the loan + the COE rebate roughly breaks even. Therefore people sell the the 5 year old car and get a new one because they are paying the same loan instalment at the end of the day. Due of the COE, Singaporeans view car ownership like a recurring 10 year lease. The monthly instalment is more like monthly rental rather than loan repayment because in the end, you don't own the car... you scrap it and get a new one if you want to keep driving.

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So, it is necessary to own a car in S'pore?
Imagine you have to ride MRT for an hour, bus for 30 mins and walk 10 min to reach destination daily. It is quite tiring right.
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So, it is necessary to own a car in S'pore?
Imagine you have to ride MRT for an hour, bus for 30 mins and walk 10 min to reach destination daily. It is quite tiring right.

Up to you. I did the public transport thing for a few years. Now I take taxis to work. Later on I'll be buying a car... although I seem to have missed the S$2 COE. Will wait a while to see how the COE moves.

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Ok all who is interested in futsal, please pm your details smile.gif And if those that needs me to pick up you guys let me know. My car pretty small so maximum can fetch is 3.

If we have enough people i will book the court for this coming week. Onz?


Added on June 12, 2009, 9:09 amMandarin is not exactly that important, I've been in S'pore for past 5 years, can't speak nor read chinese but I'm doing just ok. It really depends on what your job scope is and who and what you're dealing with.

Normally if a job that needs you to be proficient in the language it will be brought up by the interviewer. So no worries. Actually you will be really surprise there are really a lot of cantonese speaking crowd here, come down to CBD area during lunch time to witness it yourself.

Coming to the travelling part, if your work in CBD area I highly doubt that you will want to drive in. The ERP and Parking rates will probably drown you (unless you're earning in the five figure range), try staying somewhere that is convenient for you to travel to work.

Seantang,
Talking about the $2 COE thingy, if you're planning to use the car for 10 by all means go ahead otherwise you will have a major headache when you want to sell the car.

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QUOTE(t0p_man @ Jun 12 2009, 07:25 AM)
So, it is necessary to own a car in S'pore?
Imagine you have to ride MRT for an hour, bus for 30 mins and walk 10 min to reach destination daily. It is quite tiring right.
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No-one's asking you to stay an hour and 40 minutes commute time from your workplace. You always have the option of moving as close as your budget allows where you work.
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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 12 2009, 09:03 AM)
Ok all who is interested in futsal, please pm your details smile.gif And if those that needs me to pick up you guys let me know. My car pretty small so maximum can fetch is 3.

If we have enough people i will book the court for this coming week. Onz?
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Weeknights, Friday or Thusday. 8pm onwards. East Coast. Lets make this a weekly thingy.

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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 12 2009, 10:11 AM)
Weeknights, Friday or Thusday. 8pm onwards. East Coast. Lets make this a weekly thingy.
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wow east coast a bit far for me coz i work in Woodlands area. sweat.gif

nvm u guys go ahead n plan it out, then i'll see if i can join. smile.gif
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which part of west?
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clementi  tongue.gif
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not to sure bout banking, but marine line is booming.


Added on June 12, 2009, 3:00 pmwoohoo just gotten some really cheap MAS airtickets bck to KL.

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not to sure bout banking, but marine line is booming.


Added on June 12, 2009, 3:00 pmwoohoo just gotten some really cheap MAS airtickets bck to KL.
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Banking laying off a lot of ppl... but can try nevertheless.
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QUOTE(StonerJuan @ Jun 12 2009, 09:03 AM)
Seantang,
Talking about the $2 COE thingy, if you're planning to use the car for 10 by all means go ahead otherwise you will have a major headache when you want to sell the car.

Not really. You just need to adjust the selling price to reflect the zero COE rebate.


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QUOTE(Mikken @ Jun 12 2009, 02:42 PM)
I have about 3 1/2 years experience as an analyst.

What do you analyse?

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Hi seantang, since u are mentioning about getting a car.

May I know how do u obtain ur singapore driving license? I have been told tat one needs to obtain a JPJ letter from Msia before you can sit for the driving test in Spore.
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Hi seantang, since u are mentioning about getting a car.

May I know how do u obtain ur singapore driving license? I have been told tat one needs to obtain a JPJ letter from Msia before you can sit for the driving test in Spore.
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if you wanna convert your Msia driving license to Sg, the Msia license must be obtained before you started work in Sg. You just need to go for the basic theory test and once passed, bring along the JPJ letter to convert. One you converted, JPJ will erase/delete/wipe off your details from their record, means you can't use/renew your Msia license. You still however can use your Sg license to drive Malaysia/Singapore car in Malaysia. If you, for whatever reason wanna give up your Sg license and wanna get back your Msia license, then you can post your experience here smile.gif coz I can't recall anyone I know that have done it before smile.gif ... and the best part ? .... license fees is SGD$50 for life, for Singaporean & SPR.

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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 13 2009, 01:39 PM)
One you converted, JPJ will erase/delete/wipe off your details from their record, means you can't use/renew your Msia license.

I think it's more like blacklist your Malaysian license so that you cannot renew it. Your records eg. license number, vehicle class, renewal history etc. are still with JPJ. When you give up your Singapore license, you get a similar letter from Sg TP, and JPJ will re-instate your existing license (if it has not expired) or issue a new one.

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Hi guys and gals,

I will be going to SG next month, but now I am wondering about my mobile stuff..
because my bf still stays in Msia, so I'm not sure which mobile plan shud I take up as I plan to call him instead of he calls me cos I was told SG call rates are cheaper than Msia call rates.

So, any mobile plans to recommend??
p/s: I will make more calls to IDD instead of local calls, thanks ya..
one thing to mention, now I have one prepaid card which hi card, so can I still continue using it? or I need to change a better plan?


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QUOTE(t0p_man @ Jun 13 2009, 03:39 PM)
I can see Singapore less of places of interests and good food compared to M'sia.
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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 13 2009, 04:10 PM)
Hi guys and gals,

I will be going to SG next month, but now I am wondering about my mobile stuff..
because my bf still stays in Msia, so I'm not sure which mobile plan shud I take up as I plan to call him instead of he calls me cos I was told SG call rates are cheaper than Msia call rates.

So, any mobile plans to recommend??
p/s: I will make more calls to IDD instead of local calls, thanks ya..
one thing to mention, now I have one prepaid card which hi card, so can I still continue using it? or I need to change a better plan?
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why don't you get a postpaid plan if you plan to stay for a couple of years ? I'm using Singtel 019, call to many countries only charge as local calls + SGD$5 per month.

if you are staying for short term then it's better to use a calling card.

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I'm thinking of postpaid but I heard that we need to find a PR as our guarantor??
your Singtel 019 is postpaid? monthly fees is SGD$5??

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I'm thinking of postpaid but I heard that we need to find a PR as our guarantor??
your Singtel 019 is postpaid? monthly fees is SGD$5??
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I don't think you need a guarantor unless you wanna apply for roaming. The 019 is postpaid Value Added Service (VAS), call overseas to many countries (including Msia) is calculated as local call + sgd$5 monthly fees. On top of that still have to play monthly subscription.
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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 13 2009, 05:37 PM)
I'm thinking of postpaid but I heard that we need to find a PR as our guarantor??
your Singtel 019 is postpaid? monthly fees is SGD$5??

If you have a work permit, you can get postpaid. You might however have to put down a guarantee. No idea how much.

I'm using Starhub Powercall (postpaid) and it gives me 160 minutes free each month for local or IDD calls to any of Starhub's 018 destinations (including Malaysia). I'm like you and I make lots more IDD than local calls, so I find this really good. For my friends and colleagues in Singapore, I usually call from the office or SMS (also free) or Facebook. Hardly ever make local calls.

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hi guys...I've been working in S'pore for a few weeks now and getting really bored already. So, i'm planning to buy a small LCD tv to put in my common room. Is it possible to hook up the LCD TV to a conventional TV antenna? Can it receive the signal?
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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 13 2009, 04:10 PM)
Hi guys and gals,

I will be going to SG next month, but now I am wondering about my mobile stuff..
because my bf still stays in Msia, so I'm not sure which mobile plan shud I take up as I plan to call him instead of he calls me cos I was told SG call rates are cheaper than Msia call rates.

So, any mobile plans to recommend??
p/s: I will make more calls to IDD instead of local calls, thanks ya..
one thing to mention, now I have one prepaid card which hi card, so can I still continue using it? or I need to change a better plan?
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hi card? smile.gif after that, u buy SuperHot 128 for only SGD 26 rclxms.gif (u hv $28 for international calls, and FREE $100 local calls wub.gif ) roughly $0.08 per min to call ur bf lor... tongue.gif then u can buy Speed IDD card (SGD 8.5, approximately $0.052/min), u hv SGD 10 credit (but mind u...sumtimes, u hv to call several times then onli d operator can connect u to d person u wan to call)

welcome to singapore!

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QUOTE(sweetcorn @ Jun 13 2009, 11:15 PM)
hi guys...I've been working in S'pore for a few weeks now and getting really bored already.  So, i'm planning to buy a small LCD tv to put in my common room. Is it possible to hook up the LCD TV to a conventional TV antenna? Can it receive the signal?

Just look at the input jacks available. If it has a co-axial input like normal CRTs, then no problem. Usually LCD TVs will have it because it comes with an analogue TV tuner. LCD monitors usually don't.

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Agreed, Singapore is a boring country. Even entertainment wise is way more expensive than KL.
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juz to inform dat actually no need to translate birth cert. juz knew it when my fren went to submit her application. she's mad.gif coz she has wasted her time n SGD 18 blink.gif hw cm last time when my fren called ICA, d officer said need to translate if X in English (she ady mentioned she's Msian) sweat.gif

spore's fun for me (coz i nvr go anywhere since i cm to work in spore cry.gif) coz im too lazy to go out tongue.gif weekdays work till 10pm++, weekend = sleeping + eating + cleaning + laptop tongue.gif i shd change, im too old for my age (24) doh.gif
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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 13 2009, 04:10 PM)
Hi guys and gals,

I will be going to SG next month, but now I am wondering about my mobile stuff..
because my bf still stays in Msia, so I'm not sure which mobile plan shud I take up as I plan to call him instead of he calls me cos I was told SG call rates are cheaper than Msia call rates.

So, any mobile plans to recommend??
p/s: I will make more calls to IDD instead of local calls, thanks ya..
one thing to mention, now I have one prepaid card which hi card, so can I still continue using it? or I need to change a better plan?
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I asked my gf to call me from Malaysia, using the pennytel voip services. Call from PC though, RM0.028 per min. hehe.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jun 14 2009, 12:34 AM)
I asked my gf to call me from Malaysia, using the pennytel voip services. Call from PC though, RM0.028 per min. hehe.
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whoa, RM0.028/min shocking.gif nice, provided d person v wan 2 call hv internet access...thks 4 d info, kockroach.
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QUOTE(fbjkl @ Jun 14 2009, 12:50 AM)
whoa, RM0.028/min shocking.gif  nice, provided d person v wan 2 call hv internet access...thks 4 d info, kockroach.
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Agreed, Singapore is a boring country. Even entertainment wise is way more expensive than KL.
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I think the beer is cheap here though.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 14 2009, 12:04 AM)
Just look at the input jacks available. If it has a co-axial input like normal CRTs, then no problem. Usually LCD TVs will have it because it comes with an analogue TV tuner. LCD monitors usually don't.
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Hopefully, i can receive TV signal with normal antenna... nod.gif
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QUOTE(fbjkl @ Jun 13 2009, 11:22 PM)
hi card?  smile.gif after that, u buy SuperHot 128 for only SGD 26 rclxms.gif (u hv $28 for international calls, and FREE $100 local calls  wub.gif ) roughly $0.08 per min to call ur bf lor... tongue.gif then u can buy Speed IDD card (SGD 8.5, approximately $0.052/min), u hv SGD 10 credit (but mind u...sumtimes, u hv to call several times then onli d operator can connect u to d person u wan to call)

welcome to singapore!
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wow .. so many steps huh ? guess you have all the grounds covered smile.gif ... you could try starhub HoMeConnect also. sometimes you buy SGD$10 they give you SGD$15 credits
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Thanks..smile.gif

Hopefully, i can receive TV signal with normal antenna... nod.gif
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I every weekend go to JB and buy pirated DVD back to watch.... biggrin.gif

Never been discovered by customs?

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will be having dinner with some frens at Botak Jones AMK 2nite, whoever interested to join can pm me.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 14 2009, 11:16 AM)
Never been discovered by customs?
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I'm planning to take iPhone plan, by SingTel...any pros n cons??
mind to share wif me here??
thanks a lot..
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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 15 2009, 04:07 PM)
I'm planning to take iPhone plan, by SingTel...any pros n cons??
mind to share wif me here??
thanks a lot..

Since Singtel has a monopoly on iPhones... Pros: You get an iPhone... Cons: You have no choice if you want a Singapore iPhone.

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wow .. so many steps huh ? guess you have all the grounds covered smile.gif    ... you could try starhub HoMeConnect also. sometimes you buy SGD$10 they give you SGD$15 credits
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I'm planning to take iPhone plan, by SingTel...any pros n cons??
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In Singapore from what i see, chemical engineerings especially those with 2 or more years of experience are quite in demand.

I work in a pharmaceutical MNC, within like 6 months, the company hired like 4-5 chemical engineers over in the production side...

Not sure about the petrolchemical sector, i think should be the same situation bah....  biggrin.gif
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i will be working in singapore next month. only been there once when i was a small kid. how you guys find accomadation? i was looking for a place to rent, somewhere near dover/buona vista MRT. I was told that area is expensive. You think i can get a room under $500 or better still $400?
how much is your expenses/month? mind to share? i estimate $500=accomadation, $400=food, $100=transport, so $1k/mth. is that roughly correct? so scared, never live alone b4, all this while live with mom&dad.
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freestyle, probably another ~200 for phone, broadband and other incidentals like shopping, restaurants and taxi rides when you're late etc.

The rest look ok if you're not choosy.
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QUOTE(freestyle @ Jun 15 2009, 09:51 PM)
i will be working in singapore next month. only been there once when i was a small kid. how you guys find accomadation? i was looking for a place to rent, somewhere near dover/buona vista MRT. I was told that area is expensive. You think i can get a room under $500 or better still $400?
how much is your expenses/month? mind to share? i estimate $500=accomadation, $400=food, $100=transport, so $1k/mth. is that roughly correct? so scared, never live alone b4, all this while live with mom&dad.
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Clover/buona vista room for under 400, more like fantasy since i have a fren over there, even utility room around 400. Common room around 500, not including air con of course.

You want cheap accomodation, try woodlands, sembawang or yishun. Toa Payoh or braddell is ok if you want near city centre.

Donno why since i moved to braddell, my m1 mobile bb damn slow, signal bar 4 level but speed around screamyx 512k.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jun 16 2009, 09:04 AM)
Clover/buona vista room for under 400, more like fantasy since i have a fren over there, even utility room around 400. Common room around 500, not including air con of course.
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I think i can live in a utility room for $400. let me get this straight, utility room is a room with a door, and a common room is like a living room with no door, hence no privacy, am i correct? my hunting ground is on www.propertyguru.com.sg. do u guys know any other sites where i can find accomadation? i saw many adverts renting common room, what i dun get it is how can someone live in a living room? is it the other occupants dont hang out in the common room once it is rented out? sorry for being blur, cause i never rented a room before blush.gif
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In Singapore, bedrooms are referred to either as (1) master bedroom or (2) common room. So, common room is a 'normal bedroom'... either no attached bathroom or shared bathroom.

Utility room is the utility room or store room. When the HDB flats are upgraded, they typically add a small room to the back. It's about 1/2 to 3/4 the size of the common room. Some will use it as a storeroom and others will use it as an additional bedroom.

Using the living room as a sleeping area is only when the flat is turned into foreign worker accomodation lah.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 16 2009, 09:35 AM)
In Singapore, bedrooms are referred to either as (1) master bedroom or (2) common room. So, common room is a 'normal bedroom'... either no attached bathroom or shared bathroom.

Utility room is the utility room or store room. When the HDB flats are upgraded, they typically add a small room to the back. It's about 1/2 to 3/4 the size of the common room. Some will use it as a storeroom and others will use it as an additional bedroom.

Using the living room as a sleeping area is only when the flat is turned into foreign worker accomodation lah.
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I know foreign labour workers who like to sleep in the living room rather then the common room since its much more airier then a standard room which can be quite stuffy. Bear in mind they dont have air-con so its understandable if you have a choice of sleeping with 3 other fella in a common room or in a spacious living room, which would u choose?

You have 2 be kful when choosing a utility room, some of those rooms got no ventilation or even if it has a window, got no wind so it will be very stuffy, to the point that like sauna.

Best would be to find an air con utility room.

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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jun 16 2009, 10:19 AM)
You have 2 be kful when choosing a utility room, some of those rooms got no ventilation or even if it has a window, got no wind so it will be very stuffy, to the point that like sauna.

My landlady chose floor-to-ceiling windows for 3 sides of the utility room. It's like being in a fish tank.

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HI ALL...i intend to work in singapore...anyone who currently pursing their ACCA while working in accouting field?? i want to know more about it...
Thank you!!!
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QUOTE(pennee86 @ Jun 16 2009, 12:43 PM)
HI ALL...i intend to work in singapore...anyone who currently pursing their ACCA while working in accouting field?? i want to know more about it...

What specifically about ACCA while working in the accounting field do you want to know about? More detailed and pointed questions tend to get more helpful answers.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 16 2009, 03:46 PM)
What specifically about ACCA while working in the accounting field do you want to know about? More detailed and pointed questions tend to get more helpful answers.
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oh ya..thanks for your remind..
i would like to knw hows the ACCA tuition fees over there..and what kind of job u work for in accouting field..account assistant?account executive or auditor?
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i would like to knw hows the ACCA tuition fees over there
The ACCA website should be able to answer that, no?

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..and what kind of job u work for in accouting field..account assistant?account executive or auditor?
Do you have a degree?

If not, then accounts assistant or audit assistant would be the obvious jobs. If you haven't finished ACCA, your options are limited. Even if you finish your ACCA, without a degree your options in fields other than straight accounting are also limited (unless you're willing to accept diploma type salary).

If you have a degree, then you can go for an accounts exec or auditor job (ie. graduate position) and then do your ACCA to qualify as registered/qualified accountant.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 16 2009, 06:55 PM)
The ACCA website should be able to answer that, no?

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..and what kind of job u work for in accouting field..account assistant?account executive or auditor?
Do you have a degree?

If not, then accounts assistant or audit assistant would be the obvious jobs. If you haven't finished ACCA, your options are limited. Even if you finish your ACCA, without a degree your options in fields other than straight accounting are also limited (unless you're willing to accept diploma type salary).

If you have a degree, then you can go for an accounts exec or auditor job (ie. graduate position) and then do your ACCA to qualify as registered/qualified accountant.
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ya...i have degreee...
regarding the tuition fees, it is not decided by ACCA..is decided by the college or instituition...as i know...one subject for P level is $650..anyone can clarify?
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QUOTE(pennee86 @ Jun 16 2009, 07:16 PM)
ya...i have degreee...
regarding the tuition fees, it is not decided by ACCA..is decided by the college or instituition...as i know...one subject for P level is $650..anyone can clarify?

I meant the exam fees paid to ACCA. You can self study, right? But if you want to pay for tuition, you can do so of course. No idea what the tutors charge for tuition.

If you don't mind me asking, if you have a degree - why do you choose ACCA? Why not choose a qualification program that only admits graduates like CA or CPA?

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I meant the exam fees paid to ACCA. You can self study, right? But if you want to pay for tuition, you can do so of course. No idea what the tutors charge for tuition.

If you don't mind me asking, if you have a degree - why do you choose ACCA? Why not choose a qualification program that only admits graduates like CA or CPA?
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hahaha..good question...actually i need ACCA to qualify myself as CA right...i m not local degree..
i think we are out of topic d.ahahaha..shall we chat in acca thread?
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hahaha..good question...actually i need ACCA to qualify myself as CA right...i m not local degree..
i think we are out of topic d.ahahaha..shall we chat in acca thread?

Err... no, ACCA confers on you the designation ACCA or Chartered Certified Accountant, not CA.

By CA, I mean the title Chartered Accountant conferred by the various Institutes of Chartered Accountants of several Commonwealth countries like Australia, England & Wales, Ireland, NZ, Scotland, Canada etc.
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anyone up for a gathering for a drink / meal / lunch / watever this sunday ? at town area. laugh.gif
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anyone up for a gathering for a drink / meal / lunch / watever this sunday ? at town area.  laugh.gif
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should be alright with me as long as not too expensive~ hehe
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me also wanna on budget now. laugh.gif
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sunday? cant sat?
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coz zenwell (a forummer) is coming to sg this sunday, so juz meet up together loh, most probably daytime coz i might be not free by nite. sweat.gif
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sat not free.  tongue.gif

coz zenwell (a forummer) is coming to sg this sunday, so juz meet up together loh, most probably daytime coz i might be not free by nite.  sweat.gif
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hi guys and gals, I'm here again...
I am a fresh graduate and I've got a job in SG...
today, I received my letter of appointment...
but, I'm not sure about something...

ANNUAL LEAVE
Seven (7) days'-annual leave shall be granted to you after completion of one yea/s service
with the Company.

Who can tell me about this? It means I only have 7days annual leave? I only can apply for my annual leave after one year?
I will start my work on july...but, I'm blur about all these...

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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 17 2009, 02:44 PM)
hi guys and gals, I'm here again...
I am a fresh graduate and I've got a job in SG...
today, I received my letter of appointment...
but, I'm not sure about something...

ANNUAL LEAVE
Seven (7) days'-annual leave shall be granted to you after completion of one yea/s service
with the Company.

Who can tell me about this? It means I only have 7days annual leave? I only can apply for my annual leave after one year?
I will start my work on july...but, I'm blur about all these...
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means that u have to work one year for the company, then they will give u 7 days of annual leave. yes any leave u apply before one year is not annual leave. check with ur employer / HR / colleague about this.
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how bout friday night ?
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QUOTE(freestyle @ Jun 15 2009, 09:51 PM)
i will be working in singapore next month. only been there once when i was a small kid. how you guys find accomadation? i was looking for a place to rent, somewhere near dover/buona vista MRT. I was told that area is expensive. You think i can get a room under $500 or better still $400?
how much is your expenses/month? mind to share? i estimate $500=accomadation, $400=food, $100=transport, so $1k/mth. is that roughly correct? so scared, never live alone b4, all this while live with mom&dad.
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Where are you working? I am same as you, but I am luckier than you because I am quite familiar with SG.
I just found my room, at Toa Payoh, is an utility room and it costs me SGD300 per month. The room is...small enough...but I am still ok wif that..as long as I can stay at single room, don't like to share rooms with other people.


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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Jun 17 2009, 02:52 PM)
means that u have to work one year for the company, then they will give u 7 days of annual leave. yes any leave u apply before one year is not annual leave. check with ur employer / HR / colleague about this.
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I have already emailed them, now I'm waiting for their reply.
Normally a fresh graduate will meet this kind of treatment?
or this is SG companies' rules & regulations?
cos my friend can get 14days annual leave, but how come I only have 7days?

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QUOTE(animob_16 @ Jun 17 2009, 03:01 PM)
Normally a fresh graduate will meet this kind of treatment?
or this is SG companies' rules & regulations?
Every company will have their own leave benefits and arrangements. Just because this one company gave you only 7 days and requires you to earn/accrue the leave first before taking it - doesn't mean that all companies are like that.

Having said that, 7 days sounds very little. Usually, I've seen around 12-16 for newcomers.

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cos my friend can get 14days annual leave, but how come I only have 7days?
How would we know lah? We don't know anything about you, your company or your friend.

Just wait for the company to reply your email.

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Pennen86,

If you wish to further your acca here, you can alw google for FTC Kaplan Singapore or FTMS Singapore for the fee breakdown. The professional stage fee varies from S$580 to 650.

Seantang,

Having a CA is no doubt more prestigious but do take note that not everyone CAN take CA paper especially for ICAEW, For ICAEW qualification, the graduates not only need to be employed by recognised training provider/center (eg. Big 4) but need to have at least 2nd class upper degree to be admitted for the examination. Plus, the fee is not cheap. ICAEW classes is only held in Sunway College, KL, hence not many opt for CA UK here in Singapore, trust me it is not easy to self study when you have million of things to do in office and limited annual leave.

As compared to ACCA, you can sit for the examination anywhere and it is cheaper too. Honestly, being in Singapore, ACCA/CA/CPA are quite the same. I have asked my partner why Big 4 here don’t sponsor graduates for professional qualification and he mentioned that it was not necessary as an accounting degree is deemed to be sufficient. ANd suprisingly, many partners here only have CPA singapore.
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I'm sure everybody has valid and compelling reasons for the choices that they make. I don't dispute that at all. As with all things in life, there is a price to pay for everything.

It's just a personal curiosity of mine why young people in the accounting field in Malaysia, and to a lesser extent in Singapore, are so attracted to ACCA. Especially those who already have accounting degrees... when that accounting degree (especially those from a university from a Commonwealth country) opens up the CA qualification, and those from Australia, Singapore, US etc opens up the CPA qualification.
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"Like I mentioned, not every graduates are eligible to sit for CA examination thus opted for ACCA. You have to be offerred to do a CA programme, whereas ACCA opens up to both accounting and non-accounting graduates. Though I have a degree in accounting and finance but i realised I missed out quite a lot back in uni as my syllabus just touches the basic accounting but not the practical part.

ACCA does quite a lot of marketing and promotion, plus with their reasonable fee, so it is understandable why more ppl are doing ACCA as compared to CA.
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ACCA is also open to non-graduates ie. secondary school leavers, which is why I sometimes find it curious that degree graduates would be motivated to do the same program secondary school leavers do... especially when graduate-only programs like CA and CPA are available. But then like you said, the path of least resistance tends to be the most trodden.

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Perhaps ACCA passing rate is quite low?
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Actually at the end of the day, it is just a qualification. It is the experience that counts.

It is like comparing a degree from Harvard Business School vs a degree from a local university. Just a degree.




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anyone got shock by the income tax amount for last year? hehe
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anyone up for a gathering for a drink / meal / lunch / watever this sunday ? at town area.  laugh.gif
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so, no1 up for it ? too bad. laugh.gif
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so, no1 up for it ? too bad.  laugh.gif
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hahaha, i am okay la as long as within budget. any other ppl?

btw.. in today's news, FOTA ( BMW-Sauber, Brawn, Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, Renault, Toro Rosso and Toyota ) are splitting from F1A, does that mean that the F1 race in SG this September will be without these teams? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 19 2009, 10:13 AM)
anyone got shock by the income tax amount for last year? hehe
What do you mean? Good or bad shock?

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i think he meant the payable tax is damn high well mine a few hundred so still ok lo
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hahaha, i am okay la as long as within budget. any other ppl?
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 19 2009, 11:20 AM)
i think he meant the payable tax is damn high well mine a few hundred so still ok lo
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Actually, I pay half the tax I did (in % terms) compared to when I was in KL. The tax brackets in Singapore are much wider (much higher income before you move up a bracket) and generally lower % at each bracket than Malaysia. Also luvved the 2K tax rebate for the last 2 years.

In Asia, I think only HK is better in terms of low taxation.

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Tax rates for individual residents
Chargeable annual income bracket Rate
For the first S$20,000 0%
S$20,000 - S$30,000 3.5%
S$30,000 - S$40,000 5.5%
S$40,000 - S$80,000 8.5%
S$80,000 - S$160,000 14%
S$160,000 - S$320,000 17%
S$320,000 and above 20%

Should an individual have an annual chargeable income of S$400,000, for example, his gross tax payable will be S$[(20,000 X 0%) + (10,000 X 3.5%) + (10,000 X 5.5%) + (40,000 X 8.5%) + (80,000 X 14%) + (160,000 X 17%) + (80,000 X 20%)] = S$58,700 (Average tax rate = 14.7%).


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Contrast the Sg tax rates to Malaysia's. By the time your income reaches RM250K, you're already paying 55K in taxes. It's takes nearly S$400K to pay that much tax in Singapore.

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Kadar Cukai Pendapatan Bagi Individu Bermastautin Mulai Tahun Taksiran 2002
Pendapatan Tercukai / RM / Kadar / Cukai (RM)
Atas yang pertama 2,500 0% 0
Atas yang berikut 2,500 1% 25
Atas yang pertama 5,000 - 25
Atas yang berikut 15,000 3% 450
Atas yang pertama 20,000 - 475
Atas yang berikut 15,000 7% 1,050
Atas yang pertama 35,000 - 1,525
Atas yang berikut 15,000 13% 1,950
Atas yang pertama 50,000 - 3,475
Atas yang berikut 20,000 19% 3,800
Atas yang pertama 70,000 - 7,275
Atas yang berikut 30,000 24% 7,200
Atas yang pertama 100,000 - 14,475
Atas yang berikut 50,000 27% 13,500
Atas yang pertama 150,000 - 27,975
Atas yang berikut 100,000 27% 27,000
Atas yang pertama 250,000 - 54,975
Melebihi 250,000 28% -
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will be moving here next month. My friend told me 2 things that I need some clarification:-

1) you can drink water straight from the tap in Singapore
2) for guys, you cant be shirtless in your own apartment, if your neighbours see you not wearing tshirt, they can report to police

are these 2 things true?
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1) you can drink water straight from the tap in Singapore - Yup. Supposed to be ok. But I still boil it.

2) for guys, you cant be shirtless in your own apartment, if your neighbours see you not wearing tshirt, they can report to police - Nope. As long as you don't lean out the window, fiddle your nipples while licking your lips and stare at your neighbour, you should be ok. There's also this wonderful new invention called curtains.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2009, 10:01 PM)

2) for guys, you cant be shirtless in your own apartment, if your neighbours see you not wearing tshirt, they can report to police - Nope. As long as you don't lean out the window, fiddle your nipples while licking your lips and stare at your neighbour, you should be ok. There's also this wonderful new invention called curtains.
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quite true. playing with nipples is quite sensitive in Singapore smile.gif

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hahaha, i am okay la as long as within budget. any other ppl?

btw.. in today's news, FOTA ( BMW-Sauber, Brawn, Ferrari, McLaren, Red Bull, Renault, Toro Rosso and Toyota ) are splitting from F1A, does that mean that the F1 race in SG this September will be without these teams?  sweat.gif
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WHAT????? Then who will participate in the upcoming F1 in singapore???
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WHAT????? Then who will participate in the upcoming F1 in singapore???
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2009, 08:42 PM)
Contrast the Sg tax rates to Malaysia's. By the time your income reaches RM250K, you're already paying 55K in taxes. It's takes nearly S$400K to pay that much tax in Singapore.

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Kadar Cukai Pendapatan Bagi Individu Bermastautin Mulai Tahun Taksiran 2002
Pendapatan Tercukai  / RM / Kadar / Cukai (RM)
Atas yang pertama  2,500  0%  0
Atas yang berikut  2,500  1%  25
Atas yang pertama  5,000  -  25
Atas yang berikut  15,000  3%  450
Atas yang pertama  20,000  -  475
Atas yang berikut  15,000  7%  1,050
Atas yang pertama  35,000  -  1,525
Atas yang berikut  15,000  13%  1,950
Atas yang pertama  50,000  -  3,475
Atas yang berikut  20,000  19%  3,800
Atas yang pertama  70,000  -  7,275
Atas yang berikut  30,000  24%  7,200
Atas yang pertama  100,000  -  14,475
Atas yang berikut  50,000  27%  13,500
Atas yang pertama  150,000  -  27,975
Atas yang berikut  100,000  27%  27,000
Atas yang pertama  250,000  -  54,975
Melebihi  250,000  28%  -
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the income above is in monthly or annual? don't understand, seems like 2,500 is monthly income but when goes up to 250,000 i suppose is annual? confuse...

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 19 2009, 10:01 PM)
1) you can drink water straight from the tap in Singapore - Yup. Supposed to be ok. But I still boil it.

2) for guys, you cant be shirtless in your own apartment, if your neighbours see you not wearing tshirt, they can report to police - Nope. As long as you don't lean out the window, fiddle your nipples while licking your lips and stare at your neighbour, you should be ok. There's also this wonderful new invention called curtains.
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Like this i can complain to the police about my neighbour. Old fella smoke at common corridor plus always go out shirtless. I wonder if the police will layan it or will "turn a blind eye" since its an old uncle.
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jun 20 2009, 10:29 AM)
the income above is in monthly or annual? don't understand, seems like 2,500 is monthly income but when goes up to 250,000 i suppose is annual? confuse...
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all is annual income.


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QUOTE(Chrisky @ Jun 19 2009, 11:37 AM)
we go foodcourt 1 lah no worry lol.  tongue.gif

see how 1st, i got ur number so i'll let u know how it goes.  biggrin.gif
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maybe a Transformers movie gathering rolleyes.gif ?

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anyone know the working environment, career prospect of Infineon and Texas instrument in Sg?
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SGD is appreciating against MYR & USD, those who wants to exchange MYR acts quick..
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No need to worry about S$. It's a closely managed currency and the Sg govt has so much resources vs the small amount of S$ in the markets that they can keep it at any range they want. Me, I use the S$ as my long term value currency. Have a big % of RM as well since I didn't move any savings to Sg when I came and some US$ from my purchases of company stock. Typically, I will not move my funds among them as that helps balance my portfolio.


Added on June 20, 2009, 1:26 pmHere's my good deed for the day. Sorry no link to the website as I cut & paste from the pdf newpaper.
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A NEW Employment Pass Service Centre (EPSC) will begin operations at The Riverwalk from July 1. The centre will register and issue new long-term pass (LTP) cards to six groups of foreigners: Employment Pass holders; Entre-Pass holders; Personalised Employment Pass holders; Training Employment Pass holders; Work Holiday Pass holders; and Dependant Pass and Long Term Visit Pass holders.

The new LTP cards, which are issued to foreigners to regularise their stay in Singapore, will contain fingerprint biometrics and photo-images of its holder. The credit cardsized card will replace the current stamp endorsement on the travel documents and the paper-laminated Disembarkation/Embarkation
card issued to Long-Term Pass holders.

To facilitate the card issuance process, new e-services via Employment Pass Online System (EPOL), including an e-appointment system, will also be introduced, the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Friday. Since almost all Work Pass-related transactions can now be done online via EPOL and Work Permit Online, the MOM counters at Havelock Road will be closed on Saturdays from July 1. However, they will remain open as usual on weekdays. The ESPC and the existing Work Pass Services Centre at Tanjong Pagar Complex will be open on Saturdays to handle issuance of Work Pass cards.

The EPSC is located at 20 Upper Circular Road, #04-01/02, The Riverwalk. It will be open from 8am to 5.30pm on weekdays and 8am to 1pm on Saturdays. It is closed on Sundays and public holidays.


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QUOTE(Mackiddo @ Jun 20 2009, 11:13 AM)
all is annual income.


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btw chris any update ? lolz
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 20 2009, 01:19 PM)
No need to worry about S$. It's a closely managed currency and the Sg govt has so much resources vs the small amount of S$ in the markets that they can keep it at any range they want. Me, I use the S$ as my long term value currency. Have a big % of RM as well since I didn't move any savings to Sg when I came and some US$ from my purchases of company stock. Typically, I will not move my funds among them as that helps balance my portfolio.


Added on June 20, 2009, 1:26 pmHere's my good deed for the day. Sorry no link to the website as I cut & paste from the pdf newpaper.
QUOTE(TodayOnline)
A NEW Employment Pass Service Centre (EPSC) will begin operations at The Riverwalk from July 1. The centre will register and issue new long-term pass (LTP) cards to six groups of foreigners: Employment Pass holders; Entre-Pass holders; Personalised Employment Pass holders; Training Employment Pass holders; Work Holiday Pass holders; and Dependant Pass and Long Term Visit Pass holders.

The new LTP cards, which are issued to foreigners to regularise their stay in Singapore, will contain fingerprint biometrics and photo-images of its holder. The credit cardsized card will replace the current stamp endorsement on the travel documents and the paper-laminated Disembarkation/Embarkation
card issued to Long-Term Pass holders.

To facilitate the card issuance process, new e-services via Employment Pass Online System (EPOL), including an e-appointment system, will also be introduced, the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) said on Friday. Since almost all Work Pass-related transactions can now be done online via EPOL and Work Permit Online, the MOM counters at Havelock Road will be closed on Saturdays from July 1. However, they will remain open as usual on weekdays. The ESPC and the existing Work Pass Services Centre at Tanjong Pagar Complex will be open on Saturdays to handle issuance of Work Pass cards.

The EPSC is located at 20 Upper Circular Road, #04-01/02, The Riverwalk. It will be open from 8am to 5.30pm on weekdays and 8am to 1pm on Saturdays. It is closed on Sundays and public holidays.

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great! EP looks like some school library card to me..
btw will there be any charges?
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QUOTE(dveHetal3 @ Jun 20 2009, 01:03 PM)
SGD is appreciating against MYR & USD, those who wants to exchange MYR acts quick..
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I think should wait a bit longer as S$ wil get stronger against RM.
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Hi all, would like to know if we were taxed in SG, will Msia gov. tax us again when we bring the money back here?
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Jun 22 2009, 08:58 AM)
Hi all, would like to know if we were taxed in SG, will Msia gov. tax us again when we bring the money back here?
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base on the info i gather, for 3 years working in sg i declared my income in singapore, so i don't have to declare again in malaysia. so no tax from malaysia, only sg. as i read from some law related site income only need to declare once in either sg or malaysia.
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QUOTE(B-Mecha @ Jun 22 2009, 10:08 AM)
base on the info i gather, for 3 years working in sg i declared my income in singapore, so i don't have to declare again in malaysia. so no tax from malaysia, only sg. as i read from some law related site income only need to declare once in either sg or malaysia.
That's true. In fact if you've ever actually paid tax in Malaysia (ie. you have a balance in your tax account), you should inform IRB that you will no longer work in Malaysia and ask them to do a tax clearance and close your account. They will calculate a final tax refund/liability before you leave the country and from then on, you don't have to fill in Malaysian tax returns anymore.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 22 2009, 11:44 AM)
That's true. In fact if you've ever actually paid tax in Malaysia (ie. you have a balance in your tax account), you should inform IRB that you will no longer work in Malaysia and ask them to do a tax clearance and close your account. They will calculate a final tax refund/liability before you leave the country and from then on, you don't have to fill in Malaysian tax returns anymore.
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My previous company informed the IRB and holds the last pay until IRB gives the go ahead to release the pay after tax clearance is done.
And yeah, the tax rates are much lower in Singapore than Malaysia though the rebates seems to be lower.
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QUOTE(precursor80 @ Jun 22 2009, 01:12 PM)
And yeah, the tax rates are much lower in Singapore than Malaysia though the rebates seems to be lower.
Which specific rebates do you mean?

Rebate (reduce tax payable itsef) or reliefs (reduce taxable income on which tax payable is calculated on)?

In terms of individual income tax reliefs, if I'm not mistaken, Singapore's earned income relief (S$1,000) and CPF contribution relief (S$4,500) is lower than Malaysia's self relief (RM8,000) and EPF contribution relief (RM6,000). However, Singapore has a much higher tax free income threshold of S$20,000 compared to Malaysia's RM2,500.

Net net... The first S$25,500 and RM16,500 of one's income is tax free, respectively. And following from that the Sg tax rates are consistently much lower.

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this thread is entertaining lol

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 22 2009, 01:47 PM)
Which specific rebates do you mean?

Rebate (reduce tax payable itsef) or reliefs (reduce taxable income on which tax payable is calculated on)?

In terms of individual income tax reliefs, if I'm not mistaken, Singapore's earned income relief (S$1,000) and CPF contribution relief (S$4,500) is lower than Malaysia's self relief (RM8,000) and EPF contribution relief (RM6,000). However, Singapore has a much higher tax free income threshold of S$20,000 compared to Malaysia's RM2,500.

Net net... The first S$25,500 and RM16,500 of one's income is tax free, respectively. And following from that the Sg tax rates are consistently much lower.
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Yeah. You need to pay lower tax. That I agree with. smile.gif
That's one of the factors I consider before choosing to go over to the "dark" side.

Plus, now the G don't get to "waste" my tax dollars.
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How long does it take to apply for singapore pr. What conditions are required to actually apply for that. Thanks
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 22 2009, 11:44 AM)
That's true. In fact if you've ever actually paid tax in Malaysia (ie. you have a balance in your tax account), you should inform IRB that you will no longer work in Malaysia and ask them to do a tax clearance and close your account. They will calculate a final tax refund/liability before you leave the country and from then on, you don't have to fill in Malaysian tax returns anymore.
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What if future we come back Msia work again? We have to reopen our tax account in Msia and close SG's?
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QUOTE(Shinichi @ Jun 22 2009, 10:27 PM)
What if future we come back Msia work again? We have to reopen our tax account in Msia and close SG's?
Yup, essentially that's exactly what happens. Do a tax clearance when you leave Singapore. Singapore's tax clearance is much faster than Malaysia as there is no monthly schedular tax deduction from your salary unlike Malaysia. In Singapore, you pay tax only after your yearly tax payable is assessed. So, it's very clear cut.

Once you're back in Malaysia and working there, your company will start deducting your salary again for tax and that should re-activate your former or create a new tax account with IRB.

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Hello, i am an ACCA finalist. may i know the job opportunity for accounting and audit field in singapore?

Let say i join an audit firm now, and subsequently resign and join another firm in two months. would i be able to get my working permit?
could i work for a job for less than six months and then jump to another firm?

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What i suggest is you work at least a year in the company then try applying for Spore PR then from there you can jump ship as much as you want.
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Hi.. um, am not sure if this is the place to inquire. But am currently seeking jobs in both msia & spore.

Wan2 ask about the job demand for logistics/procurement/purchasing jobs in spore? Is it still high in demand?

Anybody here knows about?

Sigh, been job hunting for quite some time but no replies yet...

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QUOTE(shiningstar101 @ Jun 23 2009, 01:57 PM)
Hello, i am an ACCA finalist. may i know the job opportunity for accounting and audit field in singapore?
Accountants and auditors mainly... exactly the same as every other country.
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Let say i join an audit firm now, and subsequently resign and join another firm in two months. would i be able to get my working permit?
Aren't you supposed to get your work permit before you start work? If you have already joined an audit firm, won't you already have a work permit?
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could i work for a job for less than six months and then jump to another firm?
Just resign and go. What's the issue?

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Hi.. um, am not sure if this is the place to inquire. But am currently seeking jobs in both msia & spore.

Wan2 ask about the job demand for logistics/procurement/purchasing jobs in spore? Is it still high in demand?

Anybody here knows about?

Sigh, been job hunting for quite some time but no replies yet...
Try emailing your resume to this company. It's family owned but seems to be very interested to go international. If I'm not mistaken it owns and runs 2 big logistics hubs in Singapore and Penang. A former colleague of mine joined them a couple years ago to help them upgrade their operations to MNC standards. Last time I spoke to him a few months back, he was still looking for good young people. Expanding quite fast.

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My ex-boss asked me to join him in Sg. Offered me the Account Manager post with salary of SGD 4.5/month
Q1.Would that salary suffice? For me alone
Q2.If i apply for SPR and got it, would the spouse (wife) automatically be entitled ?
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QUOTE(IlikePanadol @ Jun 23 2009, 10:34 PM)
My ex-boss asked me to join him in Sg. Offered me the Account Manager post with salary of SGD 4.5/month
Q1.Would that salary suffice? For me alone
Suffice for what? Factory workers earn around 1200 a month. Taxi drivers and bus drivers about 2-2.5K. They all manage to live their entire lives, buy a HDB flat, raise and provide for a family on that amount. Depends on you doesn't it?

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Q2.If i apply for SPR and got it, would the spouse (wife) automatically be entitled ?
Yes, she becomes a PR the same time you do as her application (plus any kids) is jointly submitted with yours.

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jun 22 2009, 01:50 PM)
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1071564

this thread is entertaining lol

anyway riverfest is here anyone wanna go to look c look c? haha
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Hahaha.. yeah.. damn entertaining... gosh, fresh graduates nowadays too demanding. Funny funny


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QUOTE(IlikePanadol @ Jun 23 2009, 10:34 PM)
hi
Need opinion
My ex-boss asked me to join him in Sg. Offered me the Account Manager post with salary of SGD 4.5/month
Q1.Would that salary suffice? For me alone
Q2.If i apply for SPR and got it, would the spouse (wife) automatically be entitled ?
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No, not enough, salary ranges from the scale of S$10,000 to S$20,000 a month, so S$4.5k per month is not enough. Ask for a raise! >.<!!

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 23 2009, 11:37 PM)
Hahaha.. yeah.. damn entertaining... gosh, fresh graduates nowadays too demanding. Funny funny


Added on June 23, 2009, 11:39 pm

No, not enough, salary ranges from the scale of S$10,000 to S$20,000 a month, so S$4.5k per month is not enough. Ask for a raise! >.<!!
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Hmm, before we can conclude the ranges of the scale of S10,000 till20,000, you should ask also what is the company size and real responsible of the position. I have friends work as IT manager as salary 3.2k also. hehe

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Hmm, before we can conclude the ranges of the scale of S10,000 till20,000, you should ask also what is the company size and real responsible of the position. I have friends work as IT manager as salary 3.2k also. hehe
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I was just being sacastic. Of course S$4.5K is suffice to support oneself!!
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singapore really got a lot of kia su lang meh?? what makes him (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1071564) say so , since he never work in singapore?
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lol u never read the replies? he still staying under the rock mar
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 22 2009, 10:44 PM)
Yup, essentially that's exactly what happens. Do a tax clearance when you leave Singapore. Singapore's tax clearance is much faster than Malaysia as there is no monthly schedular tax deduction from your salary unlike Malaysia. In Singapore, you pay tax only after your yearly tax payable is assessed. So, it's very clear cut.

Once you're back in Malaysia and working there, your company will start deducting your salary again for tax and that should re-activate your former or create a new tax account with IRB.
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Thanks bro. At least now i know between MY and SG, we wont get double taxed smile.gif
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I was just being sacastic. Of course S$4.5K is suffice to support oneself!!
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Thanks for your constructive feedback. Your pic really suite ur personality

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 23 2009, 10:00 PM)
Accountants and auditors mainly... exactly the same as every other country.
Just resign and go. What's the issue?

Added on June 23, 2009, 10:15 pmTry emailing your resume to this company. It's family owned but seems to be very interested to go international. If I'm not mistaken it owns and runs 2 big logistics hubs in Singapore and Penang. A former colleague of mine joined them a couple years ago to help them upgrade their operations to MNC standards. Last time I spoke to him a few months back, he was still looking for good young people. Expanding quite fast.
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Hi there, thanks for replying and suggesting that website.
Will check it out smile.gif

thanks again!
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hi guys,

i will be graduating in a while and am wondering whether anyone here knows companies in Singapore looking for computer forensic specialists, and where i can send my resume to?

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hi guys,

i will be graduating in a while and am wondering whether anyone here knows companies in Singapore looking for computer forensic specialists, and where i can send my resume to?

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You have any prior experience? If yes PM me.

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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 24 2009, 06:20 PM)
I was just being sacastic. Of course S$4.5K is suffice to support oneself!!
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Sorry, lately very tense. cannot get the joke. However 4.5k like you say is suffice for self use. But whether it is good for an account manager post is really very arguable.

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What I am trying to say is that, 4.5k definitely enough to stay comfortably in Singapore. Like what Sean Tang mentioned earlier, even cab/bus driver with salary ranges from 2k to 3k can afford to feed their family, buy a hdb and send their kids to university.

If you are getting RM4.5k, in Msia and offered S$4.5k in Singapore. I don't see why the offer is not lucrative enough. The only expensive thing here is the rental that ranges from S$500 to S$1,000. Food and travelling wise is so much affordable as compared to KL. Minus those you still have a disposal income of about 3k. Convert back RM7.2k.

The salary is comparable with the Msia market, will not differ too much.

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You have any prior experience? If yes PM me.

Edit: Aiks just noticed you're graduating soon...  laugh.gif
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experience on which parts?
data recovery, data acquisition, penetrations, cyberlaw or digital laws?

i actually contacted a few companies here, but the work is mostly data recovery 80% of the time and its very repetitious as i won't learn much so was thinking of SG as there's a calling for this line over there.
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I'm very very happy.
I just sign the employment letter.
They offer me $4.2k for the monthly salary and got company car. Work 5.5 days week. rclxm9.gif
Anyone organise outing ? I can join you all yum cah already. No need take bus and mrt.


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i got offer from IOCS Asia for mechanical engineering internship
they wan me to continue work wif them after the internship as well coz i doing my internship in my last sem of studies

but one thing i found very strange is tat in their ads
they wan trainee from Malaysian, Singaporean, Filipino, Indian, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Bangladesh
it sounds like cheap labour for me...

any idea?
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QUOTE(kangyoon20 @ Jun 25 2009, 05:18 PM)
i got offer from IOCS Asia for mechanical engineering internship
they wan me to continue work wif them after the internship as well coz i doing my internship in my last sem of studies

but one thing i found very strange is tat in their ads
they wan trainee from Malaysian, Singaporean, Filipino, Indian, Vietnamese, Indonesian, Bangladesh
it sounds like cheap labour for me...

any idea?
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trainee from Singapore also considered as cheap labour??? blink.gif
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trainee from Singapore also considered as cheap labour??? blink.gif
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QUOTE(radish @ Jun 25 2009, 04:38 PM)
I'm very very happy.
I just sign the employment letter.
They offer me $4.2k for the monthly salary and got company car. Work 5.5 days week. rclxm9.gif
Anyone organise outing ? I can join you all yum cah already. No need take bus and mrt.
That's pretty good. What do you do?

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trainee from Singapore also considered as cheap labour??? blink.gif
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no sorry i dun mean tat
is it cause of their quota or something?

anyone worked in IOCS b4?
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The boss told me need to attend a lot of site meeting.

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That's pretty good. What do you do?
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Project Manager for M&E company.
The boss told me need to attend a lot of site meeting.
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$4.2k with company car sounds pretty decent.
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Project Manager for M&E company.
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Project Manager with 4.2k only? Title not matching with salary range.. blush.gif blush.gif
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Project Manager with 4.2k only? Title not matching with salary range.. blush.gif  blush.gif
Titles are not consistent across the board and all industries.

In my company, the "manager" payscale starts at S$14K per month (about 200K per annum including bonuses). Everyone below that is either Analyst or Specialist (if you're in a technical function).

Causes a big confusion when we send our resumes to recruiters or other employers... because as you say... the title is not matching with the salary. But in the end, all that matters is the salary.

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What to do ?
We are Malaysian mah, can't compare with those getting expatriate package.
$4.2 k and no need take mrt or bus in Singapore leh. That's means my transportation fees are taken care off.
Actually I'm very happy already.
If got chance, of course will climb up the ladder lah or job hop to better pay job. smile.gif


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Project Manager with 4.2k only? Title not matching with salary range.. blush.gif  blush.gif
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Added on June 26, 2009, 1:21 pmSean Tang,

Since I got car, is that advisable to rent a room in JB stay and come over to Singapore work ?
My job is very flexible in working hours because I got few site to go around and not station in one place.
Thanks.


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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jun 26 2009, 01:12 AM)
$4.2k with company car sounds pretty decent.
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Added on June 26, 2009, 1:24 pmYes man.

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u've xp as a pm b4 right?
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 26 2009, 10:26 AM)
Titles are not consistent across the board and all industries.

In my company, the "manager" payscale starts at S$14K per month (about 200K per annum including bonuses). Everyone below that is either Analyst or Specialist (if you're in a technical function).

Causes a big confusion when we send our resumes to recruiters or other employers... because as you say... the title is not matching with the salary. But in the end, all that matters is the salary.
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Hi, mind telling what industry are you in? S$14k is quite alot..how many years of experience do you need for managerial position?
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QUOTE(radish @ Jun 26 2009, 01:17 PM)
Since I got car, is that advisable to rent a room in JB stay and come over to Singapore work ?
My job is very flexible in working hours because I got  few site to go around and not station in one place.
Thanks.
Up to you if you don't mind crossing the causeway or 2nd Link frequently.

In my opinion, the only thing you save is rental. Food & groceries... how much can one person eat? For whatever rental you save, you pay for it in wasted time going through immigration. You've got to decide for yourself.


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Hi, mind telling what industry are you in? S$14k is quite alot..how many years of experience do you need for managerial position?
Chemicals MNC.

How many years of experience... it depends.

Best case scenario (if you're identified very early as a future leader), it'll take you 6-9 years to be a manager after joining as a fresh grad. Probably 1 in 300 junior employees type of calibre and closer to 1 in 1000 if you're not based in US or Europe. These people are groomed to be future senior directors and VPs - from which the global management teams are selected.

If you're identified as high potential, it'll be slightly longer... around 10-15 years.

If you're well above average (but somehow management did not monitor your career from early on... for eg. late bloomers), you'll probably be around 40-45 when they decide they've tested you sufficiently, and you're capable enough to be made a manager.

If you're average... you will probably retire without ever becoming a manager especially if you are working at a small location where the bigger jobs are few and far between.

--- Having said that, lots of the people supervisors (especially those supervising fairly junior people) and heads of the smaller departments are not managers.

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Hi people blush.gif

My 1st job was a bit too stressful for me, as the previous company that hired me have no designers at all. It was tough for me as I was a fresh graduate with no experience. So I couldn't really handle the workload, plus the servicing accounts people resigned a month after I entered, so I had to take over their work too. Stayed for 8months. sad.gif

Now I'm working as a junior web designer in my 2nd job for 1 year already. Is SGD1.4k too low? My other friends are shocked that I'm earning this amount and still holding a work permit, even though I'm a degree holder. So, ya~ that's my working life in Singapore.
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Added on June 26, 2009, 2:54 pmChemicals MNC.

How many years of experience... it depends.

Best case scenario (if you're identified very early as a future leader), it'll take you 6-9 years to be a manager after joining as a fresh grad. Probably 1 in 300 junior employees type of calibre and closer to 1 in 1000 if you're not based in US or Europe. These people are groomed to be future senior directors and VPs - from which the global management teams are selected.

If you're identified as high potential, it'll be slightly longer... around 10-15 years.

If you're well above average (but somehow management did not monitor your career from early on... for eg. late bloomers), you'll probably be around 40-45 when they decide they've tested you sufficiently, and you're capable enough to be made a manager.

If you're average... you will probably retire without ever becoming a manager especially if you are working at a small location where the bigger jobs are few and far between.

--- Having said that, lots of the people supervisors (especially those supervising fairly junior people) and heads of the smaller departments are not managers.
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I see, managers in your company are equivalent to senior managers in others companies....senior managers in my company are earning around that figure..

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Radish,

First check whether your company car is allowed to cross the Causeway because most if not all company registered cars are not allowed to cross into Msia. Next go to JPJ and extract your license information to do the conversion of your license.

Anyway $4.2k is good salary especially at this time of economic uncertainty, one more thing to take note if this is your first time driving in S'pore get yourself a GPS it helps tremendously.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jun 26 2009, 02:13 PM)
Up to you if you don't mind crossing the causeway or 2nd Link frequently.

In my opinion, the only thing you save is rental. Food & groceries... how much can one person eat? For whatever rental you save, you pay for it in wasted time going through immigration. You've got to decide for yourself.


Added on June 26, 2009, 2:54 pmChemicals MNC.

How many years of experience... it depends.

Best case scenario (if you're identified very early as a future leader), it'll take you 6-9 years to be a manager after joining as a fresh grad. Probably 1 in 300 junior employees type of calibre and closer to 1 in 1000 if you're not based in US or Europe. These people are groomed to be future senior directors and VPs - from which the global management teams are selected.

If you're identified as high potential, it'll be slightly longer... around 10-15 years.

If you're well above average (but somehow management did not monitor your career from early on... for eg. late bloomers), you'll probably be around 40-45 when they decide they've tested you sufficiently, and you're capable enough to be made a manager.

If you're average... you will probably retire without ever becoming a manager especially if you are working at a small location where the bigger jobs are few and far between.

--- Having said that, lots of the people supervisors (especially those supervising fairly junior people) and heads of the smaller departments are not managers.
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I said that because I'm working on project basis, as far as i know, my manager salary is about 15-20k, so I can imagine my project manager earning more than that figure..

Anyway, it's just a title, I hope to working on freelance project in the future, less resposiblitiy and company hire u for your specialist..
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QUOTE(giorgene @ Jun 26 2009, 04:55 PM)
I said that because I'm working on project basis, as far as i know, my manager salary is about 15-20k, so I can imagine my project manager earning more than that figure.
Must be a pretty big project.



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QUOTE(storybookpuppy @ Jun 26 2009, 04:06 PM)
Hi people  blush.gif

My 1st job was a bit too stressful for me, as the previous company that hired me have no designers at all. It was tough for me as I was a fresh graduate with no experience. So I couldn't really handle the workload, plus the servicing accounts people resigned a month after I entered, so I had to take over their work too. Stayed for 8months. sad.gif 

Now I'm working as a junior web designer in my 2nd job for 1 year already. Is SGD1.4k too low? My other friends are shocked that I'm earning this amount and still holding a work permit, even though I'm a degree holder. So, ya~ that's my working life in Singapore.

Sounds like my case. Anything pm me. Try to discuss.
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i was just wondering something. Can anyone help me on this. I was a PR in Singapore before during my student days. I canceled my PR because i wanted to complete my further studies in Australia and also because of NS reasons. I am thinking of coming back to Singapore to work again. Do you think that it is possible for the Singapore government to actually grant me a PR based on this?
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i was just wondering something. Can anyone help me on this. I was a PR in Singapore before during my student days. I canceled my PR because i wanted to complete my further studies in Australia and also because of NS reasons. I am thinking of coming back to Singapore to work again. Do you think that it is possible for the Singapore government to actually grant me a PR based on this?
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not easy, considering you 'skipped' NS. Chances are not high.
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Hi people  blush.gif

My 1st job was a bit too stressful for me, as the previous company that hired me have no designers at all. It was tough for me as I was a fresh graduate with no experience. So I couldn't really handle the workload, plus the servicing accounts people resigned a month after I entered, so I had to take over their work too. Stayed for 8months. sad.gif 

Now I'm working as a junior web designer in my 2nd job for 1 year already. Is SGD1.4k too low? My other friends are shocked that I'm earning this amount and still holding a work permit, even though I'm a degree holder. So, ya~ that's my working life in Singapore.
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At least you get a job in Singapore.

For me, I'm still looking for a job in Singapore since Chinese New Year this year. All the jobs I saw either needs Singaporean or PR only. I'm a free graduate from Multimedia University with BBA(Hons)(Marketing Management) with third class honours.
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I'm going to bangkok this September, return ticket RM150 hehe.
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seriously now my side here got 5 pax including me, we hope to get at least 1 more to make it total 6, then we'll proceed to buy the airtix. whoever interest do let me know. nod.gif
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At least you get a job in Singapore.

For me, I'm still looking for a job in Singapore since Chinese New Year this year. All the jobs I saw either needs Singaporean or PR only. I'm a free graduate from Multimedia University with BBA(Hons)(Marketing Management) with third class honours.
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Why dont u find a job in malaysia or some other country instead of deciding singapore as the be all, end all for your job search?
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Just for your information, my whole family is in Singapore now beginning this year. If I find a job in Malaysia, I will be alone while all of them is in Singapore.
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Just for your information, my whole family is in Singapore now beginning this year. If I find a job in Malaysia, I will be alone while all of them is in Singapore.
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Same with most ppl here who are working in singapore and their families and frens are in malaysia. So whats the problem?



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Same with most ppl here who are working in singapore and their families and frens are in malaysia. So whats the problem?
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There are a lot of problems. Among them are:

The quota system where in Malaysia, it is your skin colour that determine your post in the company. In Singapore, as long as you work hard, you will get promoted.
In Malaysia, no matter how hard you work, you will not get the credit you deserves. Instead other people who do not contribute much will get a higher post as it is stated in the law such as NEP.
What's the point working in Malaysia as long as the people still treats us as second class citizen or "pendatang" race.

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There are a lot of problems. Among them are:

The quota system where in Malaysia, it is your skin colour that determine your post in the company. In Singapore, as long as you work hard, you will get promoted.
In Malaysia, no matter how hard you work, you will not get the credit you deserves. Instead other people who do not contribute much will get a higher post as it is stated in the law such as NEP.
What's the point working in Malaysia as long as the people still treats us as second class citizen or "pendatang" race.
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A few of my frens are working in malaysia and they are doing quite well, even one opened his own business with little to no help from the government plus they dont bar them from achieving what they want.

From what i heard, the "dont get you promoted" thing may happen in certain GLC's and givernment sector, but private sector, if they did that, it would be akin to shooting oneself in the leg.


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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jun 30 2009, 04:27 PM)
Just for your information, my whole family is in Singapore now beginning this year. If I find a job in Malaysia, I will be alone while all of them is in Singapore.
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if that's the case, good luck and continue to wait till there is a suitable job offer. else u can look for job in malaysia, thailand or other countries like china, taiwan, australia. if there is really no luck in singapore and u dont have the urgency to get a job, just sit n relax or get some short term course to study.
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got any good job in spore?? i wan i wan
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What do you want 2 do and what qualification do you have?

If none, you can always do metal work/ fabrication. Now got demand for these kind of ppl.
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Hi, I ll start job in sg in 6/07 at a engineering comp at ubi road..
can I join this community?
who's is the leader........ rclxms.gif

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i wish i am sporean.

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Maybe your University reputation not good enough ?

A senior lecturer with the Multimedia University was charged at the Sessions Court yesterday to soliciting a RM800 (S$330) bribe from a female student in return for better grades in her examination.

Source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Stor...701-151965.html



QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jun 29 2009, 11:30 PM)
At least you get a job in Singapore.

For me, I'm still looking for a job in Singapore since Chinese New Year this year. All the jobs I saw either needs Singaporean or PR only. I'm a free graduate from Multimedia University with BBA(Hons)(Marketing Management) with third class honours.
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Added on July 1, 2009, 4:48 pmWhy you think so ?

QUOTE(garagesell @ Jul 1 2009, 12:53 PM)
i wish i am sporean.

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Added on July 1, 2009, 4:50 pmThe most famous and helpful in this forum are Sean Tang and Chessgal.

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Hi, I ll start job in sg in 6/07 at a engineering comp at ubi road..
can I join this community?
who's is the leader........ rclxms.gif
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i haved been called to go for an interview in SG. The company is near Tanjung Pagar MRT station, is $1800 a good pay? can we survive with that pay? and can I stay in JB if i work in that area? Will it save my cost? And i need to sent RM1k back to malaysia if i accepted the job because i have to pay for my car loan. Should i go for it or i just get a job in KL, I am getting RM2.5k in KL FYI. please advise
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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Jul 1 2009, 05:20 PM)
i haved been called to go for an interview in SG. The company is near Tanjung Pagar MRT station, is $1800 a good pay? can we survive with that pay? and can I stay in JB if i work in that area? Will it save my cost? And i need to sent RM1k back to malaysia if i accepted the job because i have to pay for my car loan. Should i go for it or i just get a job in KL, I am getting RM2.5k in KL FYI. please advise
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ok lar..pay quite reasonable. Work 1st then try look around for other job. If you are working office hour then I suggest that you stay in Sg coz the traffic at causeway is terrible during the peak hours ... if you take train then probably better smile.gif
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QUOTE(radish @ Jul 1 2009, 04:47 PM)
Maybe your University reputation not good enough ?

A senior lecturer with the Multimedia University was charged at the Sessions Court yesterday to soliciting a RM800 (S$330) bribe from a female student in return for better grades in her examination.

Source: http://www.asiaone.com/News/Education/Stor...701-151965.html
From what my lecturer told me, most of the Singapore companies accept MMU students. Majority of those who apply at Singapore get a job at there.

It's just not about the reputation. I just graduate at a wrong time that is at Jan 2009. This is just the start of the economy crisis and after Chinese New Year, it became worse. But, from what I heard from people around me, Singapore's economy is slowly picking up now as there are orders (demands) from the consumers.

Edit: That case also happens in Cyberjaya not Melaka.

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QUOTE(Lester1987 @ Jul 1 2009, 05:20 PM)
i haved been called to go for an interview in SG. The company is near Tanjung Pagar MRT station, is $1800 a good pay?
What kind of question is that? It's good if you don't have a degree and not so good if you do. More importantly, it depends on what kind of job it is and how much experience you're bringing to it.

QUOTE(Lester1987)
can we survive with that pay?
What do you mean by 'survive'? Banglas survive perfectly well and feed a big family back in Bangladesh on $600.

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and can I stay in JB if i work in that area? Will it save my cost?
Of course you can. Question is, do you want to? Rental's obviously lower of course.

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And i need to sent RM1k back to malaysia if i accepted the job because i have to pay for my car loan.
You have a salary of only RM2.5K and your car loan instalment is RM1K? After tax & EPF, it's almost half your take home. Back to your previous question whether you can survive on $1800... based on your track record... I don't think you can.

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Should i go for it or i just get a job in KL, I am getting RM2.5k in KL FYI. please advise
Assuming money is your motivation, why don't you do a budget assuming you come to Sg and another budget assuming you remain in KL and answer your own question?

If your motivation is not money... then no point asking any of us, no?
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jun 30 2009, 04:27 PM)
Just for your information, my whole family is in Singapore now beginning this year. If I find a job in Malaysia, I will be alone while all of them is in Singapore.
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All the best to you...I'm a fresh graduate and I've got my first job in SG...believe in urself...


Added on July 1, 2009, 9:51 pm[quote=radish,Jul 1 2009, 04:47 PM]
Maybe your University reputation not good enough ?

Hmmm...I don't think so..because I'm one of the fresh graduate from Multimedia University.... brows.gif

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From what my lecturer told me, most of the Singapore companies accept MMU students. Majority of those who apply at Singapore get a job at there.

It's just not about the reputation. I just graduate at a wrong time that is at Jan 2009. This is just the start of the economy crisis and after Chinese New Year, it became worse. But, from what I heard from people around me, Singapore's economy is slowly picking up now as there are orders (demands) from the consumers.

Edit: That case also happens in Cyberjaya not Melaka.
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lol if u r good enuf n willing to take a lower pay bad luck is jus an excuse. yeah accept mmu students jus tat mmu is nt well know as long as u can produce a cert to show tat u r a graduate they'll take u if they need ppl.

[QUOTE][quote=seantang,Jul 1 2009, 09:47 PM]
What kind of question is that? It's good if you don't have a degree and not so good if you do. More importantly, it depends on what kind of job it is and how much experience you're bringing to it.

You have a salary of only RM2.5K and your car loan instalment is RM1K? After tax & EPF, it's almost half your take home. Back to your previous question whether you can survive on $1800... based on your track record... I don't think you can.

[quote=Lester1987]Should i go for it or i just get a job in KL, I am getting RM2.5k in KL FYI. please advise[/quote]Assuming money is your motivation, why don't you do a budget assuming you come to Sg and another budget assuming you remain in KL and answer your own question?

If your motivation is not money... then no point asking any of us, no?
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xpected to c tat reply from u hahhaha....

[QUOTE][quote=animob_16,Jul 1 2009, 09:49 PM]
All the best to you...I'm a fresh graduate and I've got my first job in SG...believe in urself...


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Maybe your University reputation not good enough ?

Hmmm...I don't think so..because I'm one of the fresh graduate from Multimedia University.... brows.gif
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mmu is not well known is depending on the grads who go for interview how u present yourself n your attitude. i'm from mmu eng grad. the 1st queston the interviewer asked me is y eng study in mmu?mmu y din take multimedia? well it stunned me a bit but istill go the job

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xpected to c tat reply from u hahhaha....
tongue.gif I absolutely dislike open ended questions that force you to make a lot of thin air assumptions about someone's personal desires and lifestyle... - unless you want to write a long grandmother story that addresses every endless alternative or possibility.

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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jul 1 2009, 10:37 PM)

mmu is not well known is depending on the grads who go for interview how u present yourself n your attitude. i'm from mmu eng grad. the 1st queston the interviewer asked me is y eng study in mmu?mmu y din take multimedia? well it stunned me a bit but istill go the job
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When I was looking for jobs in Singapore, there are some people also asking this question from career fairs (JobDB Career Fairs 2009, Education & Career Fair 2009). In fact, my lecturer also told us that we graduates from MMU must at least know some multimedia.

I just hope that the supply of jobs will increase in Singapore to cope with the demand.
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When I was looking for jobs in Singapore, there are some people also asking this question from career fairs (JobDB Career Fairs 2009, Education & Career Fair 2009). In fact, my lecturer also told us that we graduates from MMU must at least know some multimedia.

I just hope that the supply of jobs will increase in Singapore to cope with the demand.
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lol again r u really an mmu grad?
eng student learn wat multimedia?
wat u mean by know at least sum multimedia? lol knowing general knowledge about multimedia doesnt count as knowing multimedia. i know how to make a movie using windows movie maker so i'm good in multimedia???
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jul 2 2009, 12:06 AM)
When I was looking for jobs in Singapore, there are some people also asking this question from career fairs (JobDB Career Fairs 2009, Education & Career Fair 2009). In fact, my lecturer also told us that we graduates from MMU must at least know some multimedia.

I just hope that the supply of jobs will increase in Singapore to cope with the demand.
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If i were employer, i would be very skeptical of you if your lecturer told you that as a graduate of Multimedia University, you must have some knowledge of "multimedia".
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wah so many MMU-ian in SG a, maybe we should make a MMU SG alumni tongue.gif
anyways, just to add to that, I got asked why Multimedia University got Engineering course ? zzz.. Anyways after some explanation etc, things went pretty okay smile.gif
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i'm also MMU-ian. but i studied FCM la tongue.gif

i don't face a single problem being MMU grad. in fact i was having smooth time for work permit application & PR application although u know la... our cert is bloody simple, like a fake one. most ppl will question the cert.

edited: typo fixed.

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Hi... so you all having gathering or something?
PLs count me in... would love to join msian in sg...........
or u all afraid of H1N1? laugh.gif
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hey guys,
I'm also MMU graduate.. hahha

Now I'm in Singapore searching for jobs, but so far after 2 weeks I only got 1 interview out of countless application. so, any ideas how to proceed? it's already 2 weeks and still no good feedbacks from companies/ job hunting websites

I'm getting anxious now... and it's not cheap spending RM in Singapore.

do companies in singapore really look for PRs and Singaporeans only??
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QUOTE(sweetcorn @ Jul 2 2009, 11:21 PM)
hey guys,
I'm also MMU graduate.. hahha

Now I'm in Singapore searching for jobs, but so far after 2 weeks I only got 1 interview out of countless application. so, any ideas how to proceed? it's already 2 weeks and still no good feedbacks from companies/ job hunting websites

I'm getting anxious now... and it's not cheap spending RM in Singapore.

do companies in singapore really look for PRs and Singaporeans only??
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once u reach spore for job then u will become PR or sporean tongue.gif

tot if u go spore easy to find job but stay in malaysia looks for spore job is damn hard?
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wanna ask you guys something... is it true that graduates from Singapore or spore unis are getting at least SG$2.7k and above as fresh grads?


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This is what i facing, now working at malaysia and keep apply for singapore job. But all my application like a stone throw to the sea.
No dare to resign and go singapore find .....................scare later wanna sleep at corridor zzzzz
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QUOTE(garagesell @ Jul 3 2009, 12:53 PM)
once u reach spore for job then u will become PR or sporean tongue.gif

tot if u go spore easy to find job but stay in malaysia looks for spore job is damn hard?
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If every worker who come to singapore auto become pr or citizen. Then i bet you every third world country from the philipines to myanmar will rush over to singapore until no more land to house everybody. You can bet on that.
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For me there is not much difference between Malaysia and Myanmar, the people yes, the government is just the same.
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jul 3 2009, 06:20 PM)
For me there is not much difference between Malaysia and Myanmar, the people yes, the government is just the same.
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Actually msial G is the hyprocrite of all.
They always mention tidak mengira bangsa but they themselves are the racist ones.
Corruption+ Cronism + Propaganda ++++
The list go on and u will be sick if u know every G doings from Malaysiakini or malaysiatoday.


Added on July 3, 2009, 7:13 pm
QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jul 3 2009, 04:37 PM)
If every worker who come to singapore auto become pr or citizen. Then i bet you every third world country from the philipines to myanmar will rush over to singapore until no more land to house everybody. You can bet on that.
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Actually a lot of msians r rushing 2 sg.
From low educated 2 highly educated non-muslims.


Added on July 3, 2009, 7:20 pm
QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jun 29 2009, 11:30 PM)
At least you get a job in Singapore.

For me, I'm still looking for a job in Singapore since Chinese New Year this year. All the jobs I saw either needs Singaporean or PR only. I'm a free graduate from Multimedia University with BBA(Hons)(Marketing Management) with third class honours.
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No offense 2 you but a 3rd class honour in marketing management?
Even finding MNC job in msia is impossible, not 2 mention sg.


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QUOTE(diggnation @ Jul 3 2009, 01:20 PM)
wanna ask you guys something... is it true that graduates from Singapore or spore unis are getting at least SG$2.7k and above as fresh grads?
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Most of them get $2800.
Even 1 of my fren from UM get this pay on 08/2008
If u can get 2500 is considered lucky for msians biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jul 3 2009, 04:37 PM)
If every worker who come to singapore auto become pr or citizen. Then i bet you every third world country from the philipines to myanmar will rush over to singapore until no more land to house everybody. You can bet on that.
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Is philippines a 3rd world country?

Pinoy chicks r so hot tongue.gif

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Hi all... I'm not sure if my question is already mentioned above. I've went thru it briefly and did not see what I would like to know there. (Apologies if my question exist) smile.gif smile.gif


I would like to know , what is the reasonable asking salary rate if I take a job in Singapore. Can we ask for the same amount in Singapore dollars for what we are earning in RM?

Some background of me :
Married with 1 child, 33 years old.
This job is IT related with abit of management and technical.
I plan to bring my wife and child there, I believe my wife will be able to find a work there in a short time while my son is still primary school.
I believe I will have to get a place to live for my family there.


So, if somebody is earning 6k, is it ok if they ask for 6k+ when taking a job there? The job is considered higher-end that what I am doing now.

Thanks for reading and taking the time to answer. icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(makhonmun @ Jul 3 2009, 07:49 PM)
Some background of me :
Married with 1 child, 33 years old.
This job is IT related with abit of management and technical.
I plan to bring my wife and child there, I believe my wife will be able to find a work there in a short time while my son is still primary school.
I believe I will have to get a place to live for my family there.
So, if somebody is earning 6k, is it ok if they ask for 6k+ when taking a job there? The job is considered higher-end that what I am doing now.
Generally, I would do exactly that ie. ask for the same S$ salary as what I'm drawing in RM. That's of course if you're doing exactly the same job. When I transferred to Singapore, I accepted the Sg payscale for the same salary level I was at when I left KL. Comparing the payscales in Sg and My, the S$:RM ratio was about 0.9:1. So personally, I think anything from 0.8:1 or better should be acceptable as Sg's effective tax rate is much lower than My.

But then again, you really should do some research amongst your peers and contacts. Find out how much someone with your qualifications/experience and more importantly, someone doing that kind of job - should be getting.
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QUOTE(onionknight @ Jul 3 2009, 07:11 PM)
No offense 2 you but a 3rd class honour in marketing management?
Even finding MNC job in msia is impossible, not 2 mention sg.
From what I know, 1st class honour to 3rd class honour is just a name in the paper only. It is not very important. What is important is how well you do in the interview and how well you do in the real job.

Some of my friends say that it is pointless if you get a 1st class honour but you fail to do the job properly compare with other who do it very well but get a lower honours.

I repeat getting a honours is just a paper only. What the employer look is just not on the paper but on our personality as well as how we get the job done.

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Added on July 1, 2009, 4:50 pmThe most famous and helpful in this forum are Sean Tang and Chessgal.
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jul 4 2009, 12:15 AM)
I repeat getting a honours is just a paper only. What the employer look is just not on the paper but on our personality as well as how we get the job done.
You are right. Employers look at 'the paper' AND your personality & performance. I emphasise the word "AND".

If your selling point is 1st class honours, there will always be competitors & peers who have 1st class honours just like you.

If your selling point is performance, there will always be competitors & peers who have good performance just like you.

The trick is having both a good education AND good performance. Then you're a complete package.

If you didn't do well at school... I'm sorry but to me, you just tied one hand behind your back for the rest of your professional life. You may have great performance but you will always lose to the the guy who also has great performance as well as a 1st class honours.

Of course, lots of people with a lower end education are still very successful... no doubt at all. But I'm willing to bet with you that they are very aware of their educational disadvantage and are always positioning themselves to make up for it. You won't find them simply dismissing their weaknesses by saying "it's not very important".

And if you're just starting your career, education is more important than you think. If you have 10 or 20 years of solid work experience, then you can say that you have proven yourself despite a poor education. Employers can accept that because your track record is longer and more recent than your education.

But if you're a fresh grad or have only a few years of experience, employers will think this way... this chap has 3-4 years of good experience but he messed up 10 years of education (secondary + uni). The impression will be that you're not a solid dependable person. Out of the last 14 years of your life, you've managed to screw up 70% of it. Then they will start doubting whether your 3-4 years of experience is really as strong as you made it sound in your cv and during the interview. Why? Because your allegedly good work performance is completely inconsistent and opposite of your poor performance during your education. Can a leopard change its spots? A suspicious person will choose to believe the more objective evidence (ie. your "paper") rather than what you said during your interview.

Lastly, whenever you look at the programs or brochures for professional seminars or forums, the speakers or presenters always list their educational qualifications (including the honours, distinctions and which unis their degrees came from) besides their professional experience. Why do you think they do that? If it's not important, why don't they just leave it out? It's part of their overall package. Their personal brand. You want everything in the package to look good.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 12:49 AM)
You are right. Employers look at 'the paper' AND your personality & performance. I emphasise the word "AND".

If your selling point is 1st class honours, there will always be competitors & peers who have 1st class honours just like you.

If your selling point is performance, there will always be competitors & peers who have good performance just like you.

The trick is having both a good education AND good performance. Then you're a complete package.

If you didn't do well at school... I'm sorry but to me, you just tied one hand behind your back for the rest of your professional life. You may have great performance but you will always lose to the the guy who also has great performance as well as a 1st class honours.

Of course, lots of people with a lower end education are still very successful... no doubt at all. But I'm willing to bet with you that they are very aware of their educational disadvantage and are always positioning themselves to make up for it. You won't find them simply dismissing their weaknesses by saying "it's not very important".

And if you're just starting your career, education is more important than you think. If you have 10 or 20 years of solid work experience, then you can say that you have proven yourself despite a poor education. Employers can accept that because your track record is longer and more recent than your education.

But if you're a fresh grad or have only a few years of experience, employers will think this way... this chap has 3-4 years of good experience but he messed up 10 years of education (secondary + uni). The impression will be that you're not a solid dependable person. Out of the last 14 years of your life, you've managed to screw up 70% of it. Then they will start doubting whether your 3-4 years of experience is really as strong as you made it sound in your cv and during the interview. Why? Because your allegedly good work performance is completely inconsistent and opposite of your poor performance during your education. Can a leopard change its spots? A suspicious person will choose to believe the more objective evidence (ie. your "paper") rather than what you said during your interview.

Lastly, whenever you look at the programs or brochures for professional seminars or forums, the speakers or presenters always list their educational qualifications (including the honours, distinctions and which unis their degrees came from) besides their professional experience. Why do you think they do that? If it's not important, why don't they just leave it out? It's part of their overall package. Their personal brand. You want everything in the package to look good.
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Wow, a great advice you have here. I believe it will benefit a lot of us here.
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 12:49 AM)
You are right. Employers look at 'the paper' AND your personality & performance. I emphasise the word "AND".

If your selling point is 1st class honours, there will always be competitors & peers who have 1st class honours just like you.

If your selling point is performance, there will always be competitors & peers who have good performance just like you.

The trick is having both a good education AND good performance. Then you're a complete package.

If you didn't do well at school... I'm sorry but to me, you just tied one hand behind your back for the rest of your professional life. You may have great performance but you will always lose to the the guy who also has great performance as well as a 1st class honours.

Of course, lots of people with a lower end education are still very successful... no doubt at all. But I'm willing to bet with you that they are very aware of their educational disadvantage and are always positioning themselves to make up for it. You won't find them simply dismissing their weaknesses by saying "it's not very important".

And if you're just starting your career, education is more important than you think. If you have 10 or 20 years of solid work experience, then you can say that you have proven yourself despite a poor education. Employers can accept that because your track record is longer and more recent than your education.

But if you're a fresh grad or have only a few years of experience, employers will think this way... this chap has 3-4 years of good experience but he messed up 10 years of education (secondary + uni). The impression will be that you're not a solid dependable person. Out of the last 14 years of your life, you've managed to screw up 70% of it. Then they will start doubting whether your 3-4 years of experience is really as strong as you made it sound in your cv and during the interview. Why? Because your allegedly good work performance is completely inconsistent and opposite of your poor performance during your education. Can a leopard change its spots? A suspicious person will choose to believe the more objective evidence (ie. your "paper") rather than what you said during your interview.

Lastly, whenever you look at the programs or brochures for professional seminars or forums, the speakers or presenters always list their educational qualifications (including the honours, distinctions and which unis their degrees came from) besides their professional experience. Why do you think they do that? If it's not important, why don't they just leave it out? It's part of their overall package. Their personal brand. You want everything in the package to look good.
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Well said.
If you have unsolid education backgound or bad results in U, u need at least 5 years of solid performance in ur job to make up for it
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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 12:49 AM)
You are right. Employers look at 'the paper' AND your personality & performance. I emphasise the word "AND".

If your selling point is 1st class honours, there will always be competitors & peers who have 1st class honours just like you.

If your selling point is performance, there will always be competitors & peers who have good performance just like you.

The trick is having both a good education AND good performance. Then you're a complete package.

If you didn't do well at school... I'm sorry but to me, you just tied one hand behind your back for the rest of your professional life. You may have great performance but you will always lose to the the guy who also has great performance as well as a 1st class honours.

Of course, lots of people with a lower end education are still very successful... no doubt at all. But I'm willing to bet with you that they are very aware of their educational disadvantage and are always positioning themselves to make up for it. You won't find them simply dismissing their weaknesses by saying "it's not very important".

And if you're just starting your career, education is more important than you think. If you have 10 or 20 years of solid work experience, then you can say that you have proven yourself despite a poor education. Employers can accept that because your track record is longer and more recent than your education.

But if you're a fresh grad or have only a few years of experience, employers will think this way... this chap has 3-4 years of good experience but he messed up 10 years of education (secondary + uni). The impression will be that you're not a solid dependable person. Out of the last 14 years of your life, you've managed to screw up 70% of it. Then they will start doubting whether your 3-4 years of experience is really as strong as you made it sound in your cv and during the interview. Why? Because your allegedly good work performance is completely inconsistent and opposite of your poor performance during your education. Can a leopard change its spots? A suspicious person will choose to believe the more objective evidence (ie. your "paper") rather than what you said during your interview.

Lastly, whenever you look at the programs or brochures for professional seminars or forums, the speakers or presenters always list their educational qualifications (including the honours, distinctions and which unis their degrees came from) besides their professional experience. Why do you think they do that? If it's not important, why don't they just leave it out? It's part of their overall package. Their personal brand. You want everything in the package to look good.
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Thanks for the advise. Looks like I have to work extra hard to overcome my bad academic result.

I had a very bad habit of challenging what may have been say by people that getting the best academic result will land you on good university and a good jobs. This means that it just important to just memorize to get the best academic result to get a good job. All I have in in my last 5 years of education ( STPM and 3 years degree course) is just read and understand the content but not memorize it to get the perfect score by reading on current issues, internet and newspaper for general knowledge.

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QUOTE(sweetcorn @ Jul 2 2009, 11:21 PM)
hey guys,
I'm also MMU graduate.. hahha

Now I'm in Singapore searching for jobs, but so far after 2 weeks I only got 1 interview out of countless application. so, any ideas how to proceed? it's already 2 weeks and still no good feedbacks from companies/ job hunting websites

I'm getting anxious now... and it's not cheap spending RM in Singapore.

do companies in singapore really look for PRs and Singaporeans only??
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I would suggest you to go home first, no point wasting your time here unless you have the time to spare.

Advice to potential job-seeker, try to gain a few years of experience in Msia first before deciding to come over cause firstly you know nothing of your job scope so it is very likely that you may not like the nature of your work, but jumping ship in Singapore is not easy either cause you are bound by EP (Working permit).

So by gaining a few years (or months) of experience, at least you are aware of what you are getting yourself into. Pay wise is almost similar to KL, so newbie forumer pls stop asking how much you are worth if you are holding what and what degree. none of us here works with recruitment agency hence cant possible give you an actual estimate. If you think you cant live on with S$2K in Singapore then go home. If you cant do your own budgetting, what makes you think we can?

Room rental in Singapore is within the range of S$500-1000, depending on location and amenities. Transport about 100 a month is more than enough. Food wise, allocate min S$20 per day. In fact food in SIngapore is slightly cheaper compared to KL, you can still get a decent bowl of mee for 2.50 in some places.

Oh btw, from my experience, Companies here dont really know Msian Universities except for UM, so regardless where you came from, it doesnt really matter, so stop comparing universities. On a side note, singapore employment is slowing down so good luck.

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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jul 4 2009, 12:15 AM)
From what I know, 1st class honour to 3rd class honour is just a name  in the paper only. It is not very important. What is important is how well you do in the interview and how well you do in the real job.

Some of my friends say that it is pointless if you get a 1st class honour but you fail to do the job properly compare with other who do it very well but get a lower honours.

I repeat getting a honours is just a paper only. What the employer look is just not on the paper but on our personality as well as how we get the job done.
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i lol-ed entertaining to read such stuff in the middle of the nite

wat u know = 0 coz u havent even started work how much do u know? measure by wat? your 3rd class degree??
yeah its important to do well in the interview but the prob is wake up ur 3rd class cant get u an interview so how u wanna perform? unless u r talkin bout street performance.

some of ur frens say? lol ur frens also 3rd class?do they already hav a job? if they hav of cos to cheer u up they'll say tat they've already on the shore u r still floating around dreaming.

yup its jus a piece of paper but ppl c the paper b4 they meet u so judge the paper 1st or judge u??

u mention u're a management grad? u know how damn many management students r there in sg? its one of the top picked courses more preferred then engineering jus imagine the no of grad they churn out

anyway my suggestion is to get a job in msia get some xp n work ur way up from there rather then wasting time n hoping to get a job now

QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 12:49 AM)
You are right. Employers look at 'the paper' AND your personality & performance. I emphasise the word "AND".

If your selling point is 1st class honours, there will always be competitors & peers who have 1st class honours just like you.

If your selling point is performance, there will always be competitors & peers who have good performance just like you.

The trick is having both a good education AND good performance. Then you're a complete package.

If you didn't do well at school... I'm sorry but to me, you just tied one hand behind your back for the rest of your professional life. You may have great performance but you will always lose to the the guy who also has great performance as well as a 1st class honours.

Of course, lots of people with a lower end education are still very successful... no doubt at all. But I'm willing to bet with you that they are very aware of their educational disadvantage and are always positioning themselves to make up for it. You won't find them simply dismissing their weaknesses by saying "it's not very important".

And if you're just starting your career, education is more important than you think. If you have 10 or 20 years of solid work experience, then you can say that you have proven yourself despite a poor education. Employers can accept that because your track record is longer and more recent than your education.

But if you're a fresh grad or have only a few years of experience, employers will think this way... this chap has 3-4 years of good experience but he messed up 10 years of education (secondary + uni). The impression will be that you're not a solid dependable person. Out of the last 14 years of your life, you've managed to screw up 70% of it. Then they will start doubting whether your 3-4 years of experience is really as strong as you made it sound in your cv and during the interview. Why? Because your allegedly good work performance is completely inconsistent and opposite of your poor performance during your education. Can a leopard change its spots? A suspicious person will choose to believe the more objective evidence (ie. your "paper") rather than what you said during your interview.

Lastly, whenever you look at the programs or brochures for professional seminars or forums, the speakers or presenters always list their educational qualifications (including the honours, distinctions and which unis their degrees came from) besides their professional experience. Why do you think they do that? If it's not important, why don't they just leave it out? It's part of their overall package. Their personal brand. You want everything in the package to look good.
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wah so serious meh u scare him leh lol but u've a very solid point hahha
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jul 4 2009, 01:14 AM)
Thanks for the advise. Looks like I have to work extra hard to overcome my bad academic result.

I had a very bad habit of challenging what may have been say by people that getting the best academic result will land you on good university and a good jobs. This means that it just important to just memorize to get the best academic result to get a good job. All I have in in my last 5 years of education ( STPM and 3 years degree course) is just read and understand the content but not memorize it to get the perfect score by reading on current issues, internet and newspaper for general knowledge.
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Not to say Good Result will guarantee you a good job but it will at least widen your options and chances of securing a decent job as compared to your peers who didnt do well. I do agree that scholars may not be the best employees but given a choice as an employer would you consider a 3rd class student or a 1st class student?


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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 4 2009, 01:16 AM)

Room rental in Singapore is within the range of S$500-1000, depending on location and amenities. Transport about 100 a month is more than enough. Food wise, allocate min S$20 per day. In fact food in SIngapore is slightly cheaper compared to KL, you can still get a decent bowl of mee for 2.50 in some places.
For your information, the cost of living in Singapore other than rental expenses is lower than even Malacca. As for food, min of just S$10-15 per day is more than enough for 3 meals a day. That's if you do not buy the drinks at there. I sometimes spend just $6 for meals only for one day as I just skip breakfast. Also there are some stores also sell as low as S$2.00 per bowl.
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For your information, the cost of living in Singapore other than rental expenses is lower than even Malacca. As for food, min of just S$10-15 per day is more than enough for 3 meals a day. That's if you do not buy the drinks at there. I sometimes spend just $6 for meals only for one day as I just skip breakfast. Also there are some stores also sell as low as S$2.00 per bowl.
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totally depends on where u work if u work in town dont xpect to find sgd2 noodles.
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QUOTE(Cho_Hakkai @ Jul 4 2009, 12:15 AM)
From what I know, 1st class honour to 3rd class honour is just a name  in the paper only. It is not very important. What is important is how well you do in the interview and how well you do in the real job.

Some of my friends say that it is pointless if you get a 1st class honour but you fail to do the job properly compare with other who do it very well but get a lower honours.

I repeat getting a honours is just a paper only. What the employer look is just not on the paper but on our personality as well as how we get the job done.
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seriously, my company don't even look at anything other than 1st class honours. 2nd and 3rd class honours don't even qualify for interview, let alone landing a job.
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seriously, my company don't even look at anything other than 1st class honours. 2nd and 3rd class honours don't even qualify for interview, let alone landing a job.
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With economy recession now, even harder 2 get job even with 2nd upper.
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QUOTE(chess_gal @ Jul 4 2009, 01:16 AM)
I would suggest you to go home first, no point wasting your time here unless you have the time to spare.

Advice to potential job-seeker, try to gain a few years of experience in Msia first before deciding to come over cause firstly you know nothing of your job scope so it is very likely that you may not like the nature of your work, but jumping ship in Singapore is not easy either cause you are bound by EP (Working permit).

So by gaining a few years (or months) of experience, at least you are aware of what you are getting yourself into. Pay wise is almost similar to KL, so newbie forumer pls stop asking how much you are worth if you are holding what and what degree. none of us here works with recruitment agency hence cant possible give you an actual estimate. If you think you cant live on with S$2K in Singapore then go home. If you cant do your own budgetting, what makes you think we can?

Room rental in Singapore is within the range of S$500-1000, depending on location and amenities. Transport about 100 a month is more than enough. Food wise, allocate min S$20 per day. In fact food in SIngapore is slightly cheaper compared to KL, you can still get a decent bowl of mee for 2.50 in some places.

Oh btw, from my experience, Companies here dont really know Msian Universities except for UM, so regardless where you came from, it doesnt really matter, so stop comparing universities. On a side note, singapore employment is slowing down so good luck.
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@chess_gal,

I actually do have nearing 3 years of relevant working experience back in Msia. In fact my field of work is quite specific and specialized. Before I decided to move to Spore, I went to an interview from a big Singapore company. The interview went REALLY well...but when they start questioning my residency status in Singapore, that's when it gets really disappointing. They were quite surprised that I'm not a PR (I think the HR screw up this part and didnt check my particulars carefully when they invited me for an interview). This is why I ask is having PR really matters?


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QUOTE(onionknight @ Jul 4 2009, 01:53 AM)
With economy recession now, even harder 2 get job even with 2nd upper.
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Not true, it depends on industry as well. I know a few guys who have about 4-5 years exp in marine/oil and gas with only a diploma from myanmar no less. And they got a job for bwoffshore and prosafe and their earning more then 5k, and thats just basic, havent even calculate their additional allowance or their OT.
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@chess_gal,

I actually do have nearing 3 years of relevant working experience back in Msia. In fact my field of work is quite specific and specialized. Before I decided to move to Spore, I went to an interview from a big Singapore company. The interview went REALLY well...but when they start questioning my residency status in Singapore, that's when it gets really disappointing. They were quite surprised that I'm not a PR (I think the HR screw up this part and didnt check my particulars carefully when they invited me for an interview). This is why I ask is having PR really matters?
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I think main reason is the company your interview does not have headcount for any pass anymore. For PR and Singaporean, there is no limit headcount as to encourage company hire singaporean and RP, but for all pass holder, there is a ratio of pass holder to PR/Singaporean.


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also the hassle of doing work permit
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QUOTE(nicvoo @ Jul 4 2009, 01:21 AM)
wah so serious meh u scare him leh lol but u've a very solid point hahha
My intention was not to scare him, but it's the situation my Singaporean colleagues and I are facing now.

My company just bought another company and now we are combining the employees of both companies. But to achieve savings, some employees of course will be let go.

There are already quite a few cases where 2 or 3 competing employees have been rated excellent performers, all are rated high potential and the differences between the candidates are so few that it eventually boils down to which school they went to and what results they got.

That's because when you're going through a thousand people across the region, it's impossible for the senior managers to know everyone. Therefore, "performance" becomes subjective because each manager will see each employee differently. So to come up with an objective review, the simple HEADLINE items matter... what class degree you have, which uni it's from, what role you have now, how big is your job scope, have you ever received official recognition awards... everyday "job performance" becomes a secondary consideration because it's so subjective and uncomparable.

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Not true, it depends on industry as well. I know a few guys who have about 4-5 years exp in marine/oil and gas with only a diploma from myanmar no less. And they got a job for bwoffshore and prosafe and their earning more then 5k, and thats just basic, havent even calculate their additional allowance or their OT.
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True for oil&gas, but I am from E&E background. This field is hardly hit by recession.
Even I getting a E&E job in sg is considered lucky cause I only holds 2nd upper from UKM.
Now I a bit regret for choosing E&E degree when entering varsity. sad.gif
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True for oil&gas, but I am from E&E background. This field is hardly hit by recession.
Even I getting a E&E job in sg is considered lucky cause I only holds 2nd upper from UKM.
Now I a bit regret for choosing E&E degree when entering varsity.  sad.gif
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Since most E&E involve in production. Since global demand now low, job prospect for production scale job also scarce.

If u choose your subject coz u just want 2 earn money and the job prospect "would" be good. Then be prepared to to burned since you choose a subject out of financial or job prospect opportunity rather then self interest.

I know many ppl who choose a subject not becoz they have an interest in it, but only focus on how much income they can derive from that particular field. Those who study something where they have a genuine interest in a particular subject tend to me more happier and wont feel that they have wasted their time studying something just for monetary gain.
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QUOTE(crapp0 @ Jul 4 2009, 11:21 AM)
Since most E&E involve in production. Since global demand now low, job prospect for production scale job also scarce.

If u choose your subject coz u just want 2 earn money and the job prospect "would" be good. Then be prepared to to burned since you choose a subject out of financial or job prospect opportunity rather then self interest.

I know many ppl who choose a subject not becoz they have an interest in it, but only focus on how much income they can derive from that particular field. Those who study something where they have a genuine interest in a particular subject tend to me more happier and wont feel that they have wasted their time studying something just for monetary gain.
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It is true...... but there is no going back for me now.... doh.gif
guess hv 2 use d $ i earn 2 maintain my interest
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It is true...... but there is no going back for me now.... doh.gif
guess hv 2 use d $ i earn 2 maintain my interest
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I read an article where someone was like you, working in a field which she had no interest but the money was good, and used the money as a way to complement her job which didnt really interest her. In the end she made the choice of pursuing her interest with the money she saved and set up a company somewhere in new york.
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I read an article where someone was like you, working in a field which she had no interest but the money was good, and used the money as a way to complement her job which didnt really interest her. In the end she made the choice of pursuing her interest with the money she saved and set up a company somewhere in new york.
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Thx.. haha, but with eco recession & H1N1 flu outbreak, earning a good living is d most important thing 1st.
Well, good luck in ur career in sg n hope we don catch d weird flu. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(onionknight @ Jul 4 2009, 10:54 AM)
True for oil&gas, but I am from E&E background. This field is hardly hit by recession.
Even I getting a E&E job in sg is considered lucky cause I only holds 2nd upper from UKM.
Now I a bit regret for choosing E&E degree when entering varsity.  sad.gif
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It's not just what your course you study. Although it;s true that the course you study and what you have done during your final year will affect your choice of Job. But for EE graduates, the option is more that what I have as a Science Graduate. So it;s always a personal issue rather than what you have studied..
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QUOTE(onionknight @ Jul 4 2009, 12:00 PM)
Thx.. haha, but with eco recession & H1N1 flu outbreak, earning a good living is d most important thing 1st.
Well, good luck in ur career in sg n hope we don catch d weird flu. biggrin.gif
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Dont think thats possible since i got a colleague just got back from south america for holiday last week. But then again i not too worried about h1n1 since its just another class of flu, not like sars which is deadly.
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Can I apply for PR after 3 month of working here? Just finish my probation period.. Cause I check the required document from the website, it is stated 6 month salary slip. Thank
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Can I apply for PR after 3 month of working here? Just finish my probation period.. Cause I check the required document from the website, it is stated 6 month salary slip. Thank
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i'll suggest u wait another 3 months (bout 90 days only, not that long rite?)

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QUOTE(washabushi @ Jul 4 2009, 12:15 PM)
i'll suggest u wait another 3 months (bout 90 days only, not that long rite?)
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chances are not very high just after 6 months of employment.
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chances are not very high just after 6 months of employment.
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Yup, I applied after 2 years in Singapore, got it within 1.5 mths.
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Can I apply for PR after 3 month of working here? Just finish my probation period.. Cause I check the required document from the website, it is stated 6 month salary slip. Thank
I applied for PR almost immediately after I got my EP.

IMHO, PR applications are approved on a case by case basis. If your application is strong enough (ie. you have good qualifications, good work experience (not only in Sg but anywhere)), they'll give you a PR because you're young, highly fertile and of the most... ummm, acceptable nationality & ethnicity (assuming you're Chinese or Indian Malaysian).

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 08:16 PM)
I applied for PR almost immediately after I got my EP.

IMHO, PR applications are approved on a case by case basis. If your application is strong enough (ie. you have good qualifications, good work experience (not only in Sg but anywhere)), they'll give you a PR because you're young, highly fertile and of the most... ummm, acceptable nationality & ethnicity (assuming you're Chinese or Indian Malaysian).
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How about Malay Malaysians?
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How about Malay Malaysians?
I'm pretty sure there aren't many applicants from this category.

Anyway, it's unsaid of course, but Singapore uses immigration to make up for the low birth rates of it's ethnic Chinese population, and to a lesser extent the ethnic Indians. The Malays in Singapore have much, much higher birth rates.

And Malaysian immigrants are the most favoured. We assimilate very quickly and very well into Sg society. Our backgrounds are easily checked, our schooling easily confirmed... making our applications quite easy to verify.

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hi guys, i need to know if i withdraw my SPR status, can i get back full amount of my cpf contribution?
does it make a difference if one from west or east malaysia?

any source of related information, because i've tried searching in ICA website but fail to gather any..
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QUOTE(JuNz-V @ Jul 5 2009, 01:02 AM)
any source of related information, because i've tried searching in ICA website but fail to gather any..
Search the CPF website under withdrawals.

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QUOTE(seantang @ Jul 4 2009, 08:16 PM)
I applied for PR almost immediately after I got my EP.

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for my case, they keep sending me the letters every year asking me to apply for PR after working for just 2 years. Remembered that time i was still on work permit.
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WTF...

Today I only knew that the land of Tanjong Pagar Railway station and its rail tracks are under Malaysia's sovereign.

Malaysia still wants to occupy and bully this land scarce nation.

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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Jul 5 2009, 03:22 AM)
WTF...

Today I only knew that the land of Tanjong Pagar Railway station and its rail tracks are under Malaysia's sovereign.

Malaysia still wants to occupy and bully this land scarce nation.
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I can't agree with your "bullying" statement.
It's under agreement since the Singapore independent from Malaysia. There so many agreement when Singapore split from Malaysia. Raw water supply, rail station / track are one of them. According to the agreement, the railway station, land along the track are belongs to KTM (Malaysia) and it can only be used for Railway purpose. THere is proposal to relocate Tanjong Pagar station to Bukit Timah, to free up the land for other development. But there is some argument between Mys and Sg regarding the Station. If you know how much the land cost.. then you will not be surprised.


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Can I apply for PR after 3 month of working here? Just finish my probation period.. Cause I check the required document from the website, it is stated 6 month salary slip. Thank
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The 6 month payslip is not necessary. I emailed to ICA before I apply for the SPR.
I apply for PR after 1 month (I am waiting for my payslip, and actually this is not necessary as my company give me a testimonial mentioning about my paid and contract status). I got the PR after 3 month. I am considered as fresh grad that time. My fren who work in Sg for 1 year get it in about 1.5 month. So.. it's really case by case basis. If you are a Young Malaysian with good education qualification, earning above a certain threshold, you can get the SPR easily.

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I can't agree with your "bullying" statement.
It's under agreement since the Singapore independent from Malaysia. There so many agreement when Singapore split from Malaysia. Raw water supply, rail station / track are one of them. According to the agreement, the railway station, land along the track are belongs to KTM (Malaysia) and it can only be used for Railway purpose. THere is proposal to relocate Tanjong Pagar station to Bukit Timah, to free up the land for other development. But there is some argument between Mys and Sg regarding the Station. If you know how much the land cost.. then you will not be surprised.
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I not sure who has signned this agreement in the 1st place. I strongly believe nobody in this entire world today will sign a stupid lease term of 999 years to allow a railway track to be constructed in a foreign country and at the same time has a sovereign over the track and station.

Imagine before 2004, Malaysia government put a "Welcome to Malaysia" signboard at the Tanjong Pagar Station. What the shit is this?

Malaysia has all the benefits, but what Singapore will get in return for this stupid agreement?
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QUOTE(WyjSwmW @ Jul 5 2009, 10:53 AM)
I not sure who has signned this agreement in the 1st place. I strongly believe nobody in this entire world today will sign a stupid lease term of 999 years to allow a railway track to be constructed in a foreign country and at the same time has a sovereign over the track and station.

Imagine before 2004, Malaysia government put a "Welcome to Malaysia" signboard at the Tanjong Pagar Station. What the shit is this?

Malaysia has all the benefits, but what Singapore will get in return for this stupid agreement?
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I don't blame you for not knowing history, I doubt this matter is taught either in MY or SG.

Lee Kwan Yew got in exchange what he wanted the most, which is the independence of SG. A strip of land in a remote and unimportant (for that time) part of the island pales in comparison.

Instead of expelling SG from MY in 1965, the other option was to have LKY and the PAP leadership arrested under ISA. If Tunku took this option, you can be quite sure that SG would be a very different place today.
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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jul 5 2009, 11:09 AM)
I don't blame you for not knowing history, I doubt this matter is taught either in MY or SG.

Lee Kwan Yew got in exchange what he wanted the most, which is the independence of SG. A strip of land in a remote and unimportant (for that time) part of the island pales in comparison.

Instead of expelling SG from MY in 1965, the other option was to have LKY and the PAP leadership arrested under ISA. If Tunku took this option, you can be quite sure that SG would be a very different place today.
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U sure onot? I have search the Wiki and it did mention the railway track is related to SG's independence. The agreement is signned in 1918, far beyond before SG independence on 1965

Moreover, just bcos SG allow MY to build a railway station and track, MY granted independence to SG? sounds ridiculous..

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QUOTE(charymsylyn @ Jul 5 2009, 11:09 AM)
I don't blame you for not knowing history, I doubt this matter is taught either in MY or SG.

Lee Kwan Yew got in exchange what he wanted the most, which is the independence of SG. A strip of land in a remote and unimportant (for that time) part of the island pales in comparison.

Instead of expelling SG from MY in 1965, the other option was to have LKY and the PAP leadership arrested under ISA. If Tunku took this option, you can be quite sure that SG would be a very different place today.
Lee Kuan Yew doesn't agree with you. Perhaps you should read his memoirs.

I also recommend reading "Ousted!" by Patrick Keith.

The railway land was an afterthought... neither the cause nor the incentive for Singapore's separation from Malaysia.


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