as i know... if u just take too much protein..it is redundant bro.... u need carbs to initiate insulin response... insulin has a whole lotta good stuff like stopping protein breakdown, increasing anabolism and redcing catabolic activity... but then it also converts glucose to triglicerides and then into fat.... O_O....

moderation is the key....pump the protein..but with carbs and fats!

why so many people cannot differentiate lbs from kg?

yesterday the 3rd 60kg+ guy came to me and told me he can bench 150kg

rofl

Hhahahahahhaha i can dl 300kg.

duno whether its will sound dumb.

but i know ppl thinking lb is in english and kg in bm.

dun ask how or why

I agree with the first and second one but concerning the third one, I don't quite agree and I believe that most of us here do not too.


The first one can be easily explained. When you workout, the glycogen supply in your muscles deplete. Any consumption of protein will be used to refill the glycogen supply and not be used for building muscles. This will burden the body as it has to convert protein into glucose. However, if fast-acting carbs are taken, they are readily used to refill the low glycogen supply of the muscles and therefore provide a fresh boost of energy. The same goes with post-workout meals. After your workout, your muscles' glycogen supply are very low. Fill them up with carbs first before consuming protein. Otherwise, the protein will be used to fill the glycogen supply and this would lead to so-called "protein-wastage" as the protein is not used for muscle-building. So, fill those empty muscles with carbs first before taking protein. The protein will then be optimally used to build your muscles.

The second statement uses the same theory as the first one. When you wake up, the glycogen supply in your muscles is low. Hence, you should refill them with carbs first before taking protein.

This post has been edited by uhuk-uhuk: Aug 11 2009, 11:59 AM

He was slaughtered.

As for #3. you guys triceps dun feel tired after doing pullups?
well, i wont say it "work the triceps instead of biceps". but both my triceps and biceps are shot when i do pullups.
so i can understand what your gym owner is trying to say.
i don't really inderstand it myself... doing a pulling movement but my triceps seems to be under strain aswell...

not sure how much this applies to chinups instead.

serius is it??cause i just seen one hell of 140kg bench press....but with support la...
damn i amazed...last time i said that his son do the 100kg bench on the machine...

now his dad...90kg free weight....(not including bar)
then add another 2 (25lbs)...3 time and then support by his fren..
then add another 2(25lbs).full supporter 3 times...

shit..but im amazed...90kg..alone..free weight....scary....

and guess what??he is 52 years old..damn strong....one hit on my face and im gone..hahahhahaha

but 150lbs...around 75 kilo..is good also....

This post has been edited by reddice: Aug 11 2009, 02:55 PM

This means the arm thrashing experiment is on!

Never felt anything. I don't even feel my biceps working much during pull ups. The chin ups, yes I feel the biceps working.
However, I did notice that after doing dips (which fried the triceps), I just can't seem to do as many pull ups as usual.

But I'm weigh like a rabbit, what do I know? =P

Triceps don't feel it. All bicep/lats on the pullup.

bcoz we're not americans


Chow

Meh, today's workout was awful. Overall, I felt really tired. Triceps still hadn't recovered from Saturday's beating and for some reason my shoulders felt weak as well. Needless to say, my chest workout wasn't very good.

I'm getting a little stale from working out. I've gained 6 kg since I started, and with that my hunger for mass has subsided somewhat. Training gets in the way of all sorts of things; watching DVD's, going out, doing my side business, etc. I'm supposed to train this evening after work, but I really, really don't feel like it.

Also, dieting is no fun at all. I feel somewhat hungry most of the time.

Bleh.

The thing with some trainees is they look at working out as something that is least enjoyable especially the hard-gainers. To overcome issues like this, set a goal or something like that ( a realistic one of course )followed by a reward upon accomplishment. Also trying including some variations in your workout.

In terms of food, dieting can get very tricky if one doesn't know how to go about it. The main thing about diets is they never ever ever work. The key word here is lifestyle. The reason why "diets" never work is because its a short term commitment but if you throw the diet mentality and start practicing a healthier lifestyle in terms of food, that would definitely work but of course you have to work through it. We got atkins, anabolic diets etc and only a handful could live on that kind of diet for some reason.

In some cases like bodybuilders, they have the off season and on season thing where they get ripped before comps . The thing about bodybuilders that I notice which is some sort of a positive observation, they are the gurus of changing diets into lifestyles. I'm talking about competitive bodybuilders specifically. Regardless of the fact that they put on extra weight during off-season, they still have this very strong base of proper nutrition. I'm not saying that this is the healthiest alternative in terms of financial etc . These guys eat and train for a living.

Crash diets never work.

This post has been edited by shanecross: Aug 11 2009, 06:43 PM

Happens to me all the time. However, if I miss the gym for a long time, I will start getting insomnia. Not being at the gym also affects my concentration when studying. It becomes a part of my life that I need. You can call it addiction.

You don't have to go EVERYDAY and make a raise/progress. Take it easy some days. Your head tires out quicker than your muscles.

Indeed they do get in the way. There's more to life than the gym. Hardcore dudes that say "BODYBUILDING IS NOT A HOBBY, IT'S A LIFESTYLE" may be correct, but it's likely that they are able to cope with the massive demands of bodybuilding because there isn't much else in their life (no hate!). Not everyone can make do with 2 sessions, regular intervals for meals etc.

Sometimes you have to learn to cope with missing days at the gym because you're sleepy, bogged down with work, or HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO. There's more to life than the iron.

This post has been edited by mofonyx: Aug 11 2009, 06:52 PM

I love the effects of training. I've never been fitter in all my life. And until recently, I actually looked forward to train. Today's training day, yippee!

But since about 3 weeks my motivation level has gone down. Hmm, that co-incides with when I started dieting. The diet is nothing radical. I cut out the milk and McD Lunch Special, and aim to eat about 1 small plate of spaghetti (300 kcal) less a day. Eliminate caloric surplus, create small calorie deficit. That's all.

I need something of a reset. A break from training. To live life like the couch potato I was before all this began in March. I miss that lifestyle. It was simpler, I ate like any other Malaysian, and had about 6 hours more discretionary time per week in which I am not clenching my teeth, holding my breath, and giving everything I have to raise the barbell.

This post has been edited by kotmj: Aug 11 2009, 07:02 PM

Go and watch some mr olympia's youtube, tats how i boost up motivation. Cheers.

Maybe all you need is a motivated training partner

you sound sad my friend.
Bodybuilding is not something you pick up and say "ok, i wanna look buff to impress the ladies so i'm going to hit the gym".

Its more of a self realisation of health and fitness.

If you make bodybuilding a lifestyle and not a chore, you will never miss or feel like you have to 'give up' crappy food and poor eating habbits.

Then again, not everyone can achieve this point of self realization as each individual has a different mindset.

*keep the milk in your diet. Milk is one of the best muscle building agent known to man till now.
opt for low fat/skimmed milk over full cream

i'm gonna stuff myself with 10 ringgit worth of hokkien mee, watch ice age 3, then drink a grappa before sleep.

in a carb+alcohol loading phase now.