Sager Owners List

corad : 2 xSager NP8660
N1-C : Sager NP8660
Bankster : ex-Sager NP5796 now Sager NP5797
000022 : Sager NP8660
Ashikune : Sager NP8660
sniper on the roof : Sager M570RU
kirakun : Sager NP9262
WyjSwmW : Sager NP5793
mr lappy : Sager NP8662
666Pride : Sager NP8662
amduser : Sager NP8662
p3psi892 : Sager NP8690
SonicSpyro : Sager NP8690



Had this lappie for a week, so going to do a very brief review



Specs :
Processor: 2.53Ghz Intel® P9500 45nm "Montevina" C 6Mb L2 Cache
RAM: 4096 MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Chan (2 SODIMMS) *Upgraded in December08
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB DDR3

Screen Reso: 15.4inch 1900 x 1200 WUXGA "Matte Type"
Storage: 500GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache)
Optical Media: 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive

Misc: Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link ,
Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
3.5G SIM Slot
Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
Integrated Fingerprint Reader

Dimensions:
14.3" (w) x 10.6" (d) x 1.45"~1.95" (h)

7.1 lbs with Battery Pack

Shipping took 3 busniess days from the US. The box it came in was huge !


Almost half the box was filled with padding, and everything was so tightly packed that I had to use apply force to get the laptop out of the box





Manuals and drivers are provided in a seperate compartment.




The Laptop upon unboxing. Unlike other manufactuers who just supply a sheet of plastic to act as both a keyboard and screen protector, this Sager came with nicely cut plastic sheets(much like those we used to wrap our primary school text books with ) to cover everything including the back of the moniter. The plastic tapes holding the sheets in place are very easily removed









The entire body of the laptop is aluminium and spray painted black. It feels very solid and classy.






Sorry for the bad shots, still need the sifu's here to teach me how to take proper photographs Laptop has a very minimalist look, and dosent spot things such as media buttons which is quite a shame. It does however, stop those buttons getting in the way during a game

What I found most outstanding on this laptop save it's specs is the cooling system. It only uses a single fan and a very large copper based heatsink right at the rear of the laptop. I played Crysis and Call Of Duty 4 on High , 4AA , 1920 x 1200 with no visible lag at all. And after 3 hours, the keyboard was only slightly warm which I atribute to my plams The bottom of the laptop was still cool (as in, not warm to the touch) and the only hot part was where the fan is located, and the surface directly behind the laptop where all the hot air was going. I would advise against putting anything behind this laptop when it's running because tempretures get seriously high back there.

On idle, the single fan is barely audible and comparing it with my dell inspirion 6400, you won't even notice the Sager is booted and running


I guess most people will be curious about the price ? I purchased this laptop from xoticpc (click for more pictuers) and the total , including shipping is RM 6.1k



another one from notebookreview.com

This post has been edited by corad: Jan 19 2011, 11:56 PM

Power adapter beside a can of guava for the curious one's



And some Benchmarks on Windows XP. Drivers used are the factory default, still waiting for my copy of Windows Vista to arrive to see if there are any performance differences
CPU-z ,GPU-z, Orthos Blend 8, ,ATi tool and HW Moniter



3D Mark 06 with slight OC on CPU & GPU. Many thanks to vincentlaw !


Vista Performance Index (before OC)


Update : 12 / 12 / 08




Heck, with year end discounts I was poisoned to get another

2nd Sager NP8660 Specs : [Benchmarks in this posts are for my 1st Sager, not this one]
Processor: Intel® T9600 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.80GHz w/6MB L2 On-die cache
RAM: 4096 MB DDR3 1066MHz Dual Chan (2 SODIMMS)
Video Card: nVidia GeForce 9800GT 512MB DDR3

Screen Reso: 15.4inch 1900 x 1200 WUXGA "Matte Type"
Storage: 500GB 5400RPM (Serial-ATA II 300 - 8MB Cache
Optical Media: 2X Blue-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive

Misc: Intel® PRO/Wireless 5300 802.11 a/g/n Wi-Fi Link ,
Internal Bluetooth 2.0+ EDR
3.5G SIM Slot
Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
Internal 7-in-1 Card Reader (MS/MS Pro/MS Duo/MS Pro Duo/SD/Mini-SD/MMC/RS)
Integrated Fingerprint Reader

Dimensions:
14.3" (w) x 10.6" (d) x 1.45"~1.95" (h)

7.1 lbs with Battery Pack

An inside view of the Sager. I opened mine to upgrade the RAM. cost me USD65 for another 4Gb DDR3 [2x 2Gb DDR3 sticks]. And doing this dosen't even void your warranty
Easiest laptop I've taken apart. Only needed to unscrew the back plate and wa lah! All the components become assessable. Just like opening the side panel of a desktop.







This post has been edited by corad: Feb 11 2009, 10:23 PM

Woah, Crysis on High on a laptop at 1920x1200?!? I can't even do that on my desktop!!! At 6.1k it's an even better buy than XPS and Alienware!!!

may i ask, the adapter is can used in malaysia? or need converter plug? and 6.1k for whole set evertyhing in a box??? WoW. 1 more, how about warranty purpose?

Alienware is wayyy over priced. I'll post the 3D marks scores soon, still benchmarking other games

Yeap, adapter can be used in Malaysia. On the website they allow you to choose which adapter suits you. And 6.1k for everything in the box and getting it to your house
Warranty depends on the part. if your adapter kaputs, you'll just have to inform them and they'll send another out to you free of charge. If something goes wrong with the laptop itself u'll hv to send it back to them tho

This post has been edited by corad: Oct 18 2008, 10:54 PM

Cool. delivery to malaysia and the price is 6.1k. i read on their website got 3 years warranty, so if the hardware failure, where we can send it? need to post to them? the machine really so COOL!

wow, nice sager. i really wish to have one sager or gateway oneday. neat stuff
ninja edit: thanks for the review and piccies

This post has been edited by Miyabi: Oct 18 2008, 11:40 PM

can't wait for your benchies on Far Cry 2 when it comes out... you'll do it right?

very affordable compare to DELL customisation

cant say nothing at all except WOW

nice laptop there..it using ddr3 lolz...just 6.1k ...cheap ...

Sorry for asking the same question.. Edited

This post has been edited by noveus: Oct 20 2008, 12:38 AM

Welcome ! thanks for reading too

you betcha, but probably have to wait a few weeks down the road. Right now really looking forward to GTA 4 tho
A run through 3dmark06 = 12680

As for the questions about warrenty, I guess that the laptop will have to go back to the US if there's a problem

don't you thinks its pretty troublesome. Or do you know any place in malaysia that know how to fix a sager? lol

malaysia dont have this brand Sc i think ...sager wow

yea i know it doesnt. So dats why wondering anywhere u guys dat can fix it if there is any prob

I guess it's just a risk we have to take about not having domestic warrenty support.

how long is the period if you play games only using the batt.

depends what kind of games. If graphic & CPU intensive games the batt only last about 30 minutes with full brightness and speakers.

but if you're just surfing the web via wifi and listening to mp3's , batt life is about 1:45 minutes - 2hours.

btw : if anyone's interested I could ask xoticpc for a better price (or bulk order) since i've been dealing with them for quite some time

This post has been edited by corad: Oct 21 2008, 06:25 AM

corad, could u ask them more about the warranty. since 6.1k is very tempting price with superb specs, we consider about warranty also. since i read on their webs it comes with 3 years warranty. by them or sager? and if got problem here, what is the procedure? sending to them back or claim by our own?

the design look quite dull

the LCD look like square more than wide...

got heat issue??

Servicing is only done in the United States and all postage costs after delivery are bore by the buyer

Black brushed aluminium guess it's subjective, i for one dont like too much bling


15.4inch. Standard width and length with other 15.4 inches. this offers much higher reso tho

no heat issues. even after gaming for a few hours

Superb specs to price ratio. Anticipating more benchies from TS

Nice stuff going on there. Too bad the warranty issue is a letdown for most people. For 6.1k at such specs, you might describe it as 'affordable' but the problem is the warranty.

ANyways, congrats on the new purchase!! Maybe you want to show off at the "Buy Club" as well.

corad, may i know how did you purchase it since if i not mistaken they dont do shipping to other countries and they only accept US credit cards?

Any requests ? I'm not too sure what to do with it apart from treating it as my 2nd desktop

yeap, but my dell inspiron6400 is still going strong after 3 years so I'm hoping the same goes for this too

powernotebooks & sager themselves dont ship internationally. the company I bought it from does however (link on 1st post) payment is done through TT (direct) transfer.

Great specs but the appearance could be improved

The laptop spec is simply awesome, sadly Malaysia don't get good hardwares for lappy that early. Alienware entered 8700m gt SLi a long time ago while Malaysia Dell just adopt to it recently.

If i not mistaken xoticpc doesnt do shipping outside of the US or do they? Plus if i was interested in purchasing one, i cant use cc but i need to wire transfer in order to purchase one?

Also i found that for the price your paying is well below the recommended price as displayed at xoticpc, are you entitled to some special discount?

very spec, DDR3 + 500gb HDD + UXWGA+ in 15.4" LCD + Matte screen + 9800GTS 512mb.... everythg is better than mine.... this is abit insane

looking forward for some screenshot such as:
- 3dmark06 default benches,
- simultaneous ATItool stress + Orthos stress (blend+priority 8) + HWmonitor for at least 30mins
- CPU-z + GPU-z

This post has been edited by vincentlaw: Oct 23 2008, 12:36 PM

Yes, xoticpc does ship internationally and they require wire transfers for international orders.

The price i'm paying is discounted with these offers : -EDITED-

No longer relevant since these discounts are already over.

will do right after my tests

This post has been edited by corad: Jan 14 2009, 04:45 AM

For that price and features .. I will stick on Macbook Pro if I were to upgrade .. but surely not in the near future .. mine is still just under 2 yrs old .. load of life still on it ..

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Added on October 24, 2008, 7:44 amBTW, ain't Sager is one of those companies that rebrand others' products? I believe this brand has been on US market for quite a while and wondering why they're not starting to build their own series from scratch but rather rebrand others'.

This post has been edited by wiraone: Oct 24 2008, 07:44 AM

hmmm ? A Macbook pro costs at least RM1k more expensive than this , is less powerful in all areas and lacks convenience for ports. but then again, i'm an apple basher

yeap, sagers are rebranded clevo's. The same goes for Alienware, Falcon Northwest, Rock , Voodoo etc etc etc Probably much cheaper to buy off bulk ?

And also, those who are interested can add custom paint jobs / laser sketches and LED's to the laptop for that extra bling (and cost)

This post has been edited by corad: Oct 24 2008, 08:08 AM

it wont take u much time.... as the stress and benches need time to run... so u can go study while it is stressing or running 3mark06 benches.... lol no reason u cant do it bcoz test...

hehe corad want more focus to his study. i saw Giancoli Physics book at his desk. probally if his laptop switched on the focus decrease to the 0%

lol... but he still replying here quite frequent ... doesn't make much diff ..... anyway must learn how to focus eventhou computer are turn on too... such high end computer user usually hard to live with their computer turn off..... probably its a good time to learn now...

This post has been edited by vincentlaw: Oct 24 2008, 06:17 PM

haha , tests and waiting for my Windows Vista to arrive want to see for myself if XP and Vista have any effects on the results.

EDITED : moved screenshots to 2nd post

This post has been edited by corad: Oct 28 2008, 08:16 PM

yes, OS will affect the 3dmark06 score (XP vs vista).... just do it with ur winXP for 3dmark06....

while stressing it with ATItool + orthos and using HWmonitor to monitor the max temperature of ur CPU, GPU and chipset for long run stressing, the OS wont affect it i guess..

Ermm... overall,
Im not sure it a great laptop...i mean dont get me wrong here..the laptop look awesome and it hav an high graphic and wicked screen resolution ....but it not 4 gaming......i mean..yes u can play games wit those..but it just not made 4 a games purpose.. if u guys a hardcore gamers..u wont choose that laptop.....and cmon it still use old shot theme keyboard went it should be LED back light full keyboard..for god sake it dont event hav PLAY,STOP, PAUSE, SHOTCUT BUTTON.....and the pad only can fit 3 finger.. im sure i rather buy a new mouse than using that tiny pad...

so the question is y it hav great spec but it not 4 gaming or multimedia purpose?? is like insert an ferrari engine 2 a minicooper car...wthell...

..but it a still awesome laptop...it just not the best...

There are no "best laptop" or "perfect laptop" in the world... even the best of the best have slight weakness.... maybe have if u build it urself...... since the price is insanely cheap with killing spec, so have to give and take dude.... for touchpad, im pretty sure a gamer will get external mouse to use, so far haven't seen any gamer using touchpad to play graphic intense game such as far cry 2, crysis and etc....

for keyboard, backlit is good but it still common for 15.4" laptop which don't have backlit LED. If u are a professional keyboard user, u should have problem identifying the key in dark. Maybe u will press wrongly for 1st key but u will figure it out the 2nd key after the wrongly press 1st key. So far i've no problem for keyboard, since desktop keyboard too have no backlit, except for those gamers keyboard.

About multimedia key, i saw there are alot of function in F1 - F9, but im not sure izzit multimedia shortcut or not. But volume/mute button and ofcoz power button is most important 1, the rest is up to user to judge whether they really will utilize the multimedia button or not.

Conclusion, they price is cheap enuf to stop ppl from complaining about the spec already. Im pretty sure u CANT find any better prices from other brand such as Dell, HP, Asus and so on....

This post has been edited by vincentlaw: Oct 25 2008, 11:49 PM

thats the worse reply ever.. dude, not meant for gaming? LOL.. where can u get this kinda specs in a lappy for 6.1k..
insane..

even the Asus G50 doesnt have these killer specs n cost rm 500 more..
Probably the cheapest laptop with high end GC..
a 9800 GTS u say is not meant for gaming.. haha

I use a mouse to play games

and there are 3 buttons beside the power key (non keyboard) where you can set functions to. Hotkeys are standard but there's also one that turns the moniter off which i find useful



This post has been edited by corad: Oct 25 2008, 11:19 PM

he just being jealous about it.... forgive him ...

I don't see the point of including the size of the touchpad in your argument. Are you trying to say that people would use the touchpad to play games if it's bigger or the laptop resembles more of a gaming machine if more than 3 fingers can fit?

Any gamer would use a mouse to play game IMHO.

This post has been edited by WNF: Oct 25 2008, 11:52 PM

yea exactly...like i said if u a real gamers u wont choose that....which do u choose...i mean logically..that laptop or an alianware or xps(not buying it..i mean CHOOSE)... it about passion and soul .....now that notebook dont hav any of those in gaming purpose......and alot of u guys said that the pad size is not important....if wanna play games, u use mouse....that true, pll use mouse these days..,.and i apologize bout that......but i still prefer if those guys made a bigger pad than those tiny square box.

and that y is not that great is gaming notebook ATM....hey maybe the version 2 coming up and it change 2 gaming purpose...idk..if that happen im so happy cuz it prove me wrong....4 now i rather choose xps than that....

I lol'd.

Since when is backlit keyboard a must for gamers? If you're that unfamiliar with the keys, and spends time looking at which key is positioned where, how would you concentrate on the friggin' screen, where enemies come to kill you?

Multimedia keys? What? Hardcore gamers have Windows Media Player at the background for them to enjoy to hardcore trance music while they're having their killing sprees? Having them is a great convenience, but what does it have to do with gaming?

Touchpad, I actually used it to play Team Fortress 2 before I got my mouse. The size of the touchpad on my Dell Vostro looks pretty much the same as the Sager's, but I managed to play quite okay as medic and pyro, tell someone you're using touchpad and they'll go like WTF?!

But I do agree with you, the price set aside, Alienware wins my heart (way too much cool factor) But for 6.1k, hell I'd go for the Sager.

Why do you have a kettle next to your computer? Not dangerous eh?

Btw is the Lenovo thinkpad SL300 being sold in malaysia yet or not?

This post has been edited by crapp0: Oct 26 2008, 01:44 PM

lol
ts choose laptop for portable lar ..maybe he need to travel to many place yet he want to play games .....

9800gt for what if not for gaming?-.-

well if it for spreadsheet, powerpoint, casual games, basic multimedia,..... i will buy it.. but if u guys planing all day to play crysis.. than u guys should get better gaming notebook....

I think I'll go for alienware for gaming purpose.But undeniably,this is quite cheap with the spec

if for powerpoint casual multimedia ...y spend 6k on it ?better get cq40-125ax ....it more than enough

WOW! You'd get that specs JUST FOR spreadsheet and all those you mentioned? I'm impressed Talk about under-utilization

This post has been edited by Crazy.SoT.Gila: Oct 26 2008, 06:41 PM

haha just ignore him dude, he is from diff world 1...... joined yesterday in this forum and talk bullshit thg already

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Added on October 26, 2008, 7:00 pmif u want to brag so much.... then show us what u have bought as ur so called "gaming laptop" first.....

This post has been edited by vincentlaw: Oct 26 2008, 07:01 PM

I guess you're the kind of person who thinks that the processor and the size of RAM are the decisive component in a system's gaming performance. Haven't heard of a GPU have you? Most probably not judging by your utterly pathetic remarks. Go back to school and educate yourself more.

A gamer could easily get an external mouse as well as an external dispay if he wants to, and with a spec like that, it's far better than most desktops.

I've no idea's about the Lenovo man .. sorry. Kettle for nescafe

well, i'm still studying so I need something that is suited for most environments, eg: classroom,office,airport,meeting. I wouldn't want to do a presentation in front of the class with an alienware (it raises expectations too much )

I think what he needs is a MacBook pro . I dont like too much bling on my tech stuff. It draws unnesesery attention.

If that is a snide remark towards mine, then here's a comeback.

An Alienware can be subtle as well, with the Ripley chassis. Getting the Skullcap chassis will definitely turn heads, and if you're that shy type and wants to slink into the background not wanting to attract attention to yourself, or the type that wants to appear business-like, but still project an outlook f someone who appreciates portable computing power, then Alienware with the Ripley chassis is just that. There are lots of technical-related professionals who arm themselves with an Alienware when it is their turn to do their presentations, especially to those relying on CAD drawings or number-crunching applications. That is why Alienware even offers the option of the Nvidia Quadro FX 3600M, specifically for that. And these professionals at some point, do think like you, wanting to avoid unnecessary attention, yet needing considerable processing power with them in portable form all the time.

Turn off the all the AlienFX lighting and guess what? It is as zero bling as your dull Sager. Saves on battery life too. And what's that? BinaryGFX even extends that with using the IGP and processor downclocks for your "presentation infront of the class" moments so that you don't blast those listening on your presentation with hot air from your spinning fan ventings. If you're worried about other people's expectations then you have self-esteem issues. After all, you bought your Sager with that config, and you want it to hide under a plain-jane enclosure? Might as well wrap it in painted tupperware then.

To each his own. Want to be dull and regular like others? Be my guest, but fitting in an out-of-this-world specced components into a dull case, is like fitting in an Evo engine into a nondescript Wira. We all know what we call that around here. Personally, I see it as a damn shame to have no one know that your notebook innards is filled with premium specs when you wrap it with a cookie-cutter case. You wouldnt want a crumbling facade of a house but filled it with leather Italian furnishing and tiled walls and floorings, would you?

I can accept the reasoning of Alienware being a premium (read: priced beyond reach of normal audience) purchase and I'll agree on that fact with you. But once you start harping on the Alienware being too much of an expectation-raiser, then you get others perceiving that it does only that and nothing else. If you had left it at the issue of it being a price factor, I would not have felt compelled to comment at length like this.

if it was meant that way I would have posted in ur thread

to verbigerate yourself, to each his own

This laptop fits my needs ideally, so why should I buy a bling filled laptop only to turn off those features? You can add LED keyboards, and custom laser etching (not limited to your name ) into the Sager. I was really impressed with the level of customizability when they allowed the buyer to choose the type of thermal paste and the option of not buying an o/s . unlike other manufacturers

BinaryGFX? I dont see how it's worth mentioning since Sager, Apple and Sony all have tweaks that do the same thing

Was it incorrect to say that Alienware raises expectations? I would expect a guy driving a ferrari (ooppps... that's acer ) to go further than some who's driving a "nondescript wira". Besides if the m15x was all that high and mighty my words would count for nothing.

I don't see Alineware as a premium brand. I see it as an extravagance. Premium things retain their value and I fully doubt either of our laptops will be worth much in 2 years

Anyways, this was meant to be a review thread and to introduce this nice little brand to anyone who drops by or has questions

Ini Wilayah Sager

fine i give u a list of a real Notebook Gaming Platform ...cant belive u cant think any of it..
example...

Dell XPS or XPS M1730..(My Favorite)
MSI G series (which is many of them)
and alienware ...

and those are realy gaming notebook..........and if u saying that Sager NP8660 in same league as those......ahh i donno wat u thinking..

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Added on October 27, 2008, 9:10 amso u saying that u rather choose this NP8660 than Alienware?? that wat u saying??
and pls read my first comment and pls do understand them....

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Added on October 27, 2008, 9:24 amoww and im a second year MMU student...so no need 2 go back to school to educate myself

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 09:24 AM

Seriously checking the Sager website now. But now USD conversion rate is pretty high, don't think can get at TS's price anymore.

LOL. drop here and bragged enough? owh 2nd year MMU student, so? as corad mentioned edy,

Ini Wilayah SAGER.

wat u mean so?? that guy just ask me 2 educate myself that kidda rude dont u think so >_>
and im not brag...im just saying..

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 10:47 AM

dell xps 1730 ?with the 8700m gt sli ?

see this http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForc...SLI.6933.0.html


this sager is not in the same league ...but it is in 'higher ' league

but sure lar it cant beat those alienware lappie since it cost a lot than the sager

This post has been edited by fcuk90: Oct 27 2008, 10:51 AM

agree 100%..if i hav a min budget i hav 2 get sager...it an awesome lappie for minimum budget and it hav a great spec....

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 11:00 AM

Helped you finish your line

Thermal paste? That was the comeback? A simple call or email to Roswell, would even allow that, at probably no extra charge.The option of not buying an O/S is hardly an advantage. I see Alienware as the the equivalent of Apple in the PC side of things, they marry their components inside nicely and to make sure they work well with each other, that requires an OS to test them out. Installing FreeDOS on a performance notebook and letting the enduser be the guinea pig as to whether those components works well with each other, for something of this caliber, is a form of being irresponsible in my books. I dont want to be troubleshooting FOR them, after the amount of money I have splurged for this.

Again I reiterate, Alienware is not about the bling. Having the bling and turning it off is an OPTION, so that if you're in that LAN Party with the right crowd you can turn it on, and if you're in a more formal setting, you have the OPTION of turning it off. IF your setting is more formal than that of the previous LAN Party setting I've mentioned, then why are you even considering a premium gaming laptop then? Shouldnt it be better to get a business-oriented laptops like the Sony Z. Oh, you wanted the OPTION of gaming on your laptop as well, you say? Well, that concept of having an OPTION I've pointed out comes out nice and clear now, doesnt it? Zing!



Wow, you have security issues there, man. If given an opportunity to own a Ferrari, would you still rather drive a Wira, even if it's Wira engine is shanked off and replaced with a souped up Evo engine? And why the heavy consideration on "what other people think"? You have "what other people think" as one of the consideration on buying your stuff?

Classifying "extravagance" and "premium" is subjective , depending on the level of one's financial security. I find buying a Ferrari as an extravagance, but not to let say, Person A, who loves performance cars, and have either saved and skimp on his savings just enough to buy one. He does not have to be super rich, only do well enough to save up for a Ferrari. Another person, Person B would say, that getting a Ferrari is out of his consideration because it is not within his affordability range, so that other person picks another car that almost mirrors that Ferrari in performance, but may have certain concessions and sacrifices on looks. It looks scoffingly plain to the untrained eye, but once Person B stepped on that gas pedal, it is a different story. But, it does not stop the general public's already established impression that the Ferrari = fast. No matter how much that Person B wants to preach the virtues of his car, the general public would probably have dubious looks on their face at first before it is "test-driven" to prove his point. It doesnt help that his chosen car have the boxy dimensions of a Kenari.

In 2 years, when all is said and done, which brand would people feel more inclined to purchase, should I choose to resell it then? Alienware or Sager? Point is moot if you choose not to sell it, but having that sense of brand recognition and is like a warm blanket on a rainy day to me.

I'm all for reviews and introducing new brands and their OPTIONS to others, but choosing to harp on those new brand by downtrodding and mocking another brand, you'd most definitely be inviting a counter-reponse from those brand(s) you have retorted against now, wouldnt it? Newton's Third Law, my friend.......your actions most definitely will invite its appropriate REACTIONS.

P/S: This may be a Wilayah Sager, but the Mothership patrols the skies.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Oct 27 2008, 12:00 PM

yes exactly, thank Q...
like im saying u can play high graphic games wit those..but if u do that ...u feel like somink missing.....i think..the coolness maybe??

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Added on October 27, 2008, 12:03 pmagree wit stringfellow....even thu that sager NP8660 hav a great spec... it just not most people want... if it use for working pll use mac..rather than NP8660... if it use 4 gaming ...pll use...erkk u guys already know the answer.....

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 12:03 PM

It was a sarcasm, in case you failed to detect it

heroiuu, u might not understand why some of us wanna get the sager,Pure hardcore gamers dont really care if their lappies have the bling factors or not, for us,its just the performance, and for just 6.1k , u get uber performances, for me i was thinking of getting the Asus G50V. its a beauty bling factor. It cost about 6.6k - 7k. But the specs, its like half the performance of the sager with just a 9700GT. Benchmark is half.

We might not have the budget to get super Gaming notebooks like alienware, Falcon NW, Dell XPS 1730.

We dont want any arguments here in thread. Just like Corad said,
"To each his own".
So lets keep it friendly k.

For me i prefer the sager for the specs at the price. Surely i would lose the bling factor, but for its price, its damn worth it. Of course if i have the money surely i would go for the alienware la. but for now as a student, i could settle up with this.


Ini Wilayah Sager

The arguments would not have come if the TS didnt portray the Alienware as "just bling only" and polish his Sager choice to kingdom come. I said it before and I will say it here again, if the decision against the Alienware was purely on the basis of paying premium price over the Sager offering, then we are on the same page here, and I totally agree, the Alienware is more pricetag-prohibitive. But lambasting the Alienware because it has the OPTION of bling, just simply invites a counter-reaction.



I totally agree, and if the criteria at which the choice came from is because "we might not have the budget" and it stops there, I'm with you, brother. But dont make it look as if the Alienware is all bling and no brains inside. That was what I was responding to, as well as TS's insecurities of having a nicer looking laptop(which is again, subjective). The bling (Light Pipe, AlienFX linings, and illuminated keyboard) is OPTIONAL, they can be turned off. Best of both worlds, the world of business-like simplicity, or decked-out decadence.

And heroiuu, you're getting out of context here , dude. The Sager matches, if not overtakes the Alienware specs when it comes portable power. Your arguments are tepid and fickle at best. The looks on the Alienware is not the all-consuming, the-one-and-only reason one should get it. It should only be part of the consideration.

wat..????? u kidding me rite?? "The Sager matches"....ermm dude i wanna know..went u first looking at sager NP8660.... wat was u thinking?? GAMING?? WORKING?? TRAVELING?? MUTIMEDIA?? (dont look at the spec, i mean the spec are AWESOME) but the reason i ask u cuz every design hav a concept..now alienware hav a gaming concept. and that made people wanna play games wit those instant of plain design laptop like MAC..
and FrostLance said that

and wat if people do care bout the bling factor...wat do u call it?? Unpure gamers?? ofcause pll still want the best from the outside 2 the inside..

congrats, u clearly proven to us whats the IQ level of 2nd year MMU student

There is no getting to you. I'm done talking to you here man. The others have tried to reason to you, and we all know how that went.

dude u outside of the topic now.!!

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Added on October 27, 2008, 3:20 pmaww cmon it not an argument..im just saying that wat it should be saying..ntn personal..and im sure that som pll out there agree wit me

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 03:20 PM

kind of a war here? I would say branding nothing much to do these day, the fall of Sony, you see this

by the way, it is better to get a system that comes with certain OS that at least can get the hardware to work with, FreeDOS is no no,

sorry I am getting offtopic now,

It really comes down to the buyer

You are beyond unbelievable

ahahah i take that as a compliment

I'm glad you do. I wish to see your rig with the specs matching to this Sager of which you use it solely for word processing, spreadsheet purposes. Considering this fact, anything lower than these specs will be rendered useless in your league, I suppose.

god u made me lough , and so not true..im not saying that.. i just give u an example for working stuff...atleast that was my first thought went i see picture and how it made and the concept...but after i read all the spec and i think..mostly u can do everything in this notebook.............but i still think that sager can do better than this.

Hence you're contradicting yourself.

So you're all for the looks, I see? Hmm.. Sounds so much like ricers

ahh u miss this 1..


u hav any awnser 4 that?? genius dude??

This post has been edited by heroiuu: Oct 27 2008, 05:03 PM

some people buying Ferrari because they can, some people like to pimp up Subaru, because they can, and they want to

no matter how they use it, they may not being used what they built for, it is like using Precision without any using any CAD on this

and this laptop is well priced

Your analogy is flawed, terribly. If a Ferrari engine works in a Mini, it would bring up the performance to Ferrari standard, no? (forget about other things such as how the design of Ferrari reduces friction and all since it's not applicable to notebooks). If you can only afford to get the engine, and not the whole package of a Ferrari, would you rather do that, or go for, a more average of performance and bling car, and stand a higher chance to lose out in a race (performance)? Not to mention in notebooks, there's other factors such as portability too. You keep mentioning XPS 1730, you do know that a 17" and a 15.4" have quite a difference in portability, right? Oh no wait, you just want the blings and other factors are out of your mind.

A gamer requires a rig that runs his/her games smoothly (performance). The blings comes after the performance is satisfied. If Alienware has a typical performance, let's say, 2.0ghz and a 8600M GT, you think Stringfellow would have gone for it? Now you are judging how good a gaming notebook is based on the blings, that's terrible. The Sager with those specs are great as a gaming notebook, regardless of what you said. You first said it would only suit to be used for the basic usage (word processing and bla), but now you're saying it can be used for almost anything. Big contradiction there.

And I would like to ask you,

How in the effin' world is it not suitable for gaming purposes? Oh no wait...

Now it can..

A gaming notebook is first judged on how good it can perform, not how many LEDs and curves it have. Although a combination of both is definitely ideal, you don't get the best of both world every time as the price factor always comes in unless you're some rich brat who gets 10k for his birthday without needing to work anything for it.

only he maybe?

ok all the stuff u just said..it doest tell me y i should choose Sager NP8660....and


it not contradiction...im saying that from the start loud and clear "the spec are AWESOME" but if u using that as a full time gaming Platform, it feel somink missing....it dont hav gaming passion and soul.

ok now let me ask u ......2 notebook in front ur face..sager np8660 and alienwere which u rather choose???
simple question....if u cant answer this.....all the thing u just said it made u look more dum dum instant of genius..
and if u can choose 1 of that..than u know wat make NP8660 are different than gaming notebook

and 1 more thing u hav 2 learn dude.....in a big world out, not all pll know bout hardware...spec...so u hav 2 look at the bling factor 2 sell ur product....and if sager failed 2 do that, that y sager doesnt sell realy good,click here and tell me if u see any of sager brand?? and dear genius dude that is call marketing and u should learn that too...no offence.... and that make alienware and xps are top gaming notebook..

Missing something? Gaming passion and soul? What? Backlit keyboards, curves and LED? All I can do is lol

Free of charge? And the specs of Stringfellow's or even better? No doubt I'd go for the Alienware, I thought I've made that clear already? You do know Stringfellow's m15x specs are better than corad's NP8660, right? If it was a 8600M GT with a 2.0GHz processor, I'd no doubt go for the Sager. Then again, if I were to buy one, compared to me current notebook that is way out of these two leagues, which cost me 4k, I'd go for the Sager for 6.1k. 15k? Way out of my reach, and I have other priorities even if I have that amount of cash right now. But if I have specifically saved up 15k for it, well, duh

Dude, Sager does not officially sell at Malaysia. Why would I see a widespread of Sager brand here? I'm sure you, as a 2nd year ultimately knowledgeable student of the utmost respectable MMU, knows marketing better than me, I'll rest my case there. But again, for those who spend this amount of money to buy notebooks, they're bound to at least know the basics of the hardware, then again, unless of course you're a spoilt rich brat

Go to laptopvideo2go, you'll see a lot of Dell Inspiron and Vostro users gaming with their notebooks. Bling factor? 0.

Oh and, you noticed Lenovo's Thinkpads? They're ugly as hell (IMO), but they sell well. Why? I'm sure you have your uber marketing knowledge on this

Oh and btw, I've never EVER said you should choose the NP8660. Just that your view enlightens me to a whole new perception of human being