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N1-C
post Dec 26 2008, 09:33 AM

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According to this, you can get it here. Else, your best bet is international vendor. Its pretty confusing for me but I believe its the chiliGREEN Mobilitas CU MH Serie but hey, I can be very wrong.

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Guess I'll update a little bit tongue.gif .


Shipping


It was shipped last Friday (19 December) and arrived this morning (26 December), took around 4 business days to arrive (Holiday @ 20,21,24 and 25 December). Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM, an island that even not every Malaysian know icon_question.gif . Thus I'm really risking the notebook to be stolen as it require plenty of transit in order to arrive at my place.


The Beast


Under construction!

Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them but I'll add a few details that he didn't mention or I want to emphasize blush.gif .

My Sager NP8660 came with the following specifications:

# Intel Core 2 Duo P9500 (2.53GHz/6MB L2 Cache/1066MHz FSB)

# Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit

# 15.4-inch WSXGA+ (1680x1050 Glossy Display)

# 4GB DDR3-1066 RAM

# Nvidia GeForce 9800M GTS

# 320GB 7200RPM SATA II hard drive

# Dual-layer 8X DVD burner

# 7-in-1 memory card reader (Standard)

# Intel Wireless WiFi Link 5300 + Bluetooth (Standard)

# 8-cell Li-ion battery (Standard)

The configuration's price came out to be $1,980.74. ATM of my purchase, the exchange rate was 3.59 thus I'm paying RM7110.86 in total (My dad told me he need to pay the charges of Pos Malaysia when the machine arrived but I'm not sure as ATM I'm too happy to remember lol, thought this will be helpful reference for anyone who need).

The reason I bought this notebook is because most of the gaming notebook out there exist in the form of 17" but I need a notebook that's able to satisfy my gaming needs with a relatively portable size. Hence, I came across the Alienware m15x and the Sager NP8660. In the end I got myself the Sager NP8660, I must say that this.notebook.is.rock.solid overall in term of built quality.

One thing that I'm disappointed is with the built quality of the lid. The inner lid is weak IMO, when pressure is applied, it will flex. Plus what ever the reason is, I can move my screen slightly around within the inner lid, that said the construction within is not tight. However, nothing is affecting the screen itself, its just that I've paid for 7k and there's such flaw but I can live with that.


The Beast - Silent Mode


There's a dedicated button on top of the keyboard to enable silent mode. When pressed, an icon will showed at the top left part of the screen to indicate its been turn on/off.

The name basically says it all, when Silent Mode is turned on, the fan will be stop spinning and create virtually no sound at all except of the sound the electronic parts give out (You need to pay real close attention to notice this). This mode especially help for people who constantly work in library as it will not disturb the people around. Note that you should never run any game or any resources intensive program under this mode.

Ok, after running my notebook on battery for an hour with silent mode turned on, I notice virtually no difference from the normal mode in term of battery life. This however, make sense as the fan doesn't need to kick in even when running on battery in normal mode.

The Design

Under construction!

The design is overall business-like, clean and professional feel with its brushed aluminum surface. The notebook itself is covered in black with silver trim, glossy part can be found at the outer edge of the inside lid and a thin strip surrounding the keyboard.

On top of the screen, there's the 2.0MP webcam.

On top of the keyboard, there 4 shortcut buttons which is the Default Email, Homepage, Silent Mode and Power Button.

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And the bottom of the keyboard, is the keypad, fingerprint reader and mic.

The Screen

Under construction!

My NP8660 came with the WSXGA+ (1680x1050 Glossy Display) screen, different from corad's WUXGA (1920x1200 Matte Display).

The display is reflective but still viewable in office environment with lots of windows. I've yet to take it outdoor yet so I can't say anything about how the screen perform in outdoor environment.

The Heat

Under construction!

Note that Xotic PC's Sager NP8660 come pre-configured with Arctic Silver 5 thermal compound.

Below is the idle temperature with Notepal Infinite @ Max speed (Room temperature to be 29~30C).

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And here's load temperature with Notepal Infinite @ Max speed (Room temperature to be 29~30C).

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Although the HDD's temperature load at nearly 60c but its not that hot IMO when you touch the palm rest.

The cooling of the NP8660 is excellent as you can see from the pictures above it run cooler than my previous notebook with an 8600M GT (Topping at 80+) with only 5400RPM HDD (The palm rest of my previous notebook somehow feel hotter than my NP8660 although only topping at 50+).

Below is the inner component of the NP8660. I believe this picture is best posted under The Heat section for people to have better understanding of the cooling of the notebook itself. Note that the GPU is covered with a massive heatsink.

Picture source: www.xxodd.nl
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The load temperatures show off the effectiveness of the single fan cooling solution and engineering skills of Clevo.

The Heat - Silent Mode

Under construction!

No more screen shot due to the image limitation... Orz

Anyway, after an hour running in silent mode, the temperature readings from HWMonitor are as the following;

ACPI Min @ 40C - Max @ 49C
CPU Min @ ~24.5 - Max @ ~38
GPU Min @ 35 - Max @ 44
HDD Min @ 34 - Max @ 54

ATM I'm doing internet surfing with my wireless turned on @ Balanced mode with brightness @ 40% and no other accessories are being plugged in.

The I/O Ports

Under construction!

Front Side: 1x Headphone-out, 1x microphone-in, 1x S/PDIF-out and 1x mini Firewire.

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Back Side: 1x DVI-out, HDMI-out, 1x combined eSATA/USB, 1x USB, 1x power jack and 1x security lock slot.

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Left Side: 1x Optical drive

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Right Side: 1x 7-in-1 card reader, 1x ExpressCard/54 slot, 2x USB, 1x LAN jack and 1x phone jack.

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The Performance

Under construction!

Please forgive me for not having any benchmarks as Streamyx is really slow ATM.

Different from corad's 9800M GT, my GTS perform 5~10% slower than his. In addition, its only 1~5 FPS lower in real world performance test.

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You can check here if you want to find out more about the GT or GTS. Ranking at 10 and 11 respectively, losing only to the GTX, upcoming HD Radeon 4850 and all the other SLI/Xfire cards, it kicks all of the other ass out there brows.gif .

One side note is that my P series CPU when compare to corad's T series CPU is it consume less voltage, run cooler, slightly longer battery life but slower in the same price range.


Conclusion


Under construction!

Pro(s):

# Unbeatable performance in the form of a 15.4" notebook.

# The touch pad surface is matte.

# IMO the right placement of the optical drive and hard drive in a notebook.

# No bloatware! (The Xotic PC version)

Con(s):

# No volume wheel or any multimedia shortcuts button (Play/Pause etc).

# The webcam is rubbish in low light environment (Or when it thinks its in low light environment).

# The speaker's sound is flat, mono-like and weak in volume.

# The size of the power brick can be troublesome.

# Relatively poor battery life, expect to be carrying the power brick around.

Subjective(s):

# No unnecessary flashy LED light(s).

# No touch sensitive button(s).

# The keyboard is pretty hard to press and feel cheap in plastic quality.

# The touch pad is relatively small.

To sum up, I'm happy with this machine , it deliver what I'm expecting from the 9800M GTS. At 7.1lbs/ 3.22kgs, it weight just as heavy as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around!

This post has been edited by N1-C: Feb 1 2009, 07:16 PM
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post Dec 29 2008, 02:22 AM

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QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 26 2008, 11:33 AM)
Guess I'll update a little bit.

Just got my machine. It was shipped last Friday and arrived this morning, took around 4 business days to arrive. Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM (An island that not every Malaysian know lol and I'm really risking the notebook to be stolen as it require plenty of transit in order to arrive at my place).

Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them.

But I must say, this.notebook.is.rock.solid in term of built quality.

The design is overall business like, nice clean and professional look with its brushed aluminium surface. Bring up front to do presentation and everyone will be wondering what the heck is the brand of this laptop.

No flashy light(s) (Except for the power button) and no freaking touch sensitive button(s) (All my previous notebook have them and for some reason, I hate it, always accidentally touch them). Play/Pause button is being re-allocated to Fn+~.

Another few things to praise is the disc drive is located at the left, which mean it will not bump into your mouse when its eject. With the disc drive at the left, naturally the HDD is located at the right, which also mean when you game, your left hand will not feel the heat at the palm rest.

As for the con, the.webcam.is.rubbish. However, I'm not a webcam user but I thought it will be a good reference for the other. The size of the power brick can be troublesome.

To sum up, I'm happy with this machine. At 7.1lbs, it weight just same as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around!
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Haha been meaning to ask if you had received your laptop. Good to know it arrived so promptly. I just placed an order for an NP8660(similar specs to yours), all the while worrying that something would go dreadfully wrong during shipping. Definitely reassuring to hear from you tongue.gif. Quick question though - who actually physically delivered the package to your address? Was wondering as the $223 shipping option that I chose means that the US Postal Service will be responsible for shipping. As they aren't a specialist shipping and logistics firm like Fed Ex or UPS, I'm kinda afraid that when the laptop reaches our shores the Pos Malaysia dudes will (mis)handle it lol. Please enlighten me! notworthy.gif

This post has been edited by Ashikune: Dec 29 2008, 02:23 AM
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post Dec 29 2008, 04:30 AM

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QUOTE(Cheesenium @ Dec 25 2008, 11:42 PM)
Definitely,it's still seem a bit unbelievable for me.

Who do i need to contact if i want to get it in Australia?
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thats a tough question since the prices of OEM laptops aren't regulated. from what i've seen xoticpc is still the cheapest. You'll have to check out clevo's wiki page and see which of their distributors in aust have it smile.gif

QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 26 2008, 09:33 AM)
Guess I'll update a little bit.

Just got my machine. It was shipped last Friday and arrived this morning, took around 4 business days to arrive. Pretty impressive I'll say as I live in Labuan ATM (An island that not every Malaysian know lol and I'm really risking the notebook to be stolen as it require plenty of transit in order to arrive at my place).

Pretty much everything is the same with corad's 8660 so I'll not mention them.

But I must say, this.notebook.is.rock.solid in term of built quality.

The design is overall business like, nice clean and professional look with its brushed aluminium surface. Bring up front to do presentation and everyone will be wondering what the heck is the brand of this laptop.

No flashy light(s) (Except for the power button) and no freaking touch sensitive button(s) (All my previous notebook have them and for some reason, I hate it, always accidentally touch them). Play/Pause button is being re-allocated to Fn+~.

Another few things to praise is the disc drive is located at the left, which mean it will not bump into your mouse when its eject. With the disc drive at the left, naturally the HDD is located at the right, which also mean when you game, your left hand will not feel the heat at the palm rest.

As for the con, the.webcam.is.rubbish. However, I'm not a webcam user but I thought it will be a good reference for the other. The size of the power brick can be troublesome.

To sum up, I'm happy with this machine. At 7.1lbs, it weight just same as my previous 15.4" notebook but pack with a bigger punch. So no complaint carrying it around!
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Awesome !! laugh.gif rclxms.gif

i added an owners list to the 2nd post smile.gif great to hear it arrived without problems biggrin.gif

QUOTE(Ashikune @ Dec 29 2008, 02:22 AM)
Haha been meaning to ask if you had received your laptop. Good to know it arrived so promptly. I just placed an order for an NP8660(similar specs to yours), all the while worrying that something would go dreadfully wrong during shipping. Definitely reassuring to hear from you tongue.gif. Quick question though - who actually physically delivered the package to your address? Was wondering as the $223 shipping option that I chose means that the US Postal Service will be responsible for shipping. As they aren't a specialist shipping and logistics firm like Fed Ex or UPS, I'm kinda afraid that when the laptop reaches our shores the Pos Malaysia dudes will (mis)handle it lol. Please enlighten me! notworthy.gif
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i'm guessing your local courier company ? whichever has the best service to your area. Mine was delivered via DHL. I'm not in M'sia, but it should be the same smile.gif
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post Dec 29 2008, 08:06 AM

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Did you overclock your lappy?

I am amazed that it can play crysis without lag at all

ENVYYYY you

BTW , how much you bought for your second one for the year end discount?

I am curious biggrin.gif
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post Dec 30 2008, 09:49 PM

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yeap, 1st sager is overclocked. i requested that the bios multipliers be unlocked before ordering smile.gif

2nd one amounts to around Rm7k ~


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post Dec 30 2008, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(Ashikune @ Dec 29 2008, 02:22 AM)
Haha been meaning to ask if you had received your laptop. Good to know it arrived so promptly. I just placed an order for an NP8660(similar specs to yours), all the while worrying that something would go dreadfully wrong during shipping. Definitely reassuring to hear from you tongue.gif. Quick question though - who actually physically delivered the package to your address? Was wondering as the $223 shipping option that I chose means that the US Postal Service will be responsible for shipping. As they aren't a specialist shipping and logistics firm like Fed Ex or UPS, I'm kinda afraid that when the laptop reaches our shores the Pos Malaysia dudes will (mis)handle it lol. Please enlighten me! notworthy.gif
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Hahaha I can totally understand your feeling, as I mentioned earlier, it took 4 business days to arrive but its actually longer if I count the non-business day... the waiting really shorten my life span lol.

Don't worry I'm using the same shipping option as yours. After the machine arrived in Malaysia, USPS actually hand the goods to Pos Laju and they'll send it to you using EMS. My case though and no joking its really Express, pretty fast but I think my dad told me that he had to pay the EMS charges for me... Well... I'm still kind of over excited ATM so don't really remember lol, good luck!

@Corad

Lol I'm surprised we're in the same university. Good like in your next semester!
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post Dec 30 2008, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 30 2008, 10:38 PM)
@Corad

Lol I'm surprised we're in the same university. Good like in your next semester!
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we are ? i thought there were only 2 sarawakians this year.

which collage are you in ? smile.gif
we should meet up to play left4dead wei rclxms.gif rclxms.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 12:06 AM

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Or maybe not, just assuming as you use the same textbook doh.gif I'm in Curtin... and I'm not Sarawakian lol.
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QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 31 2008, 12:06 AM)
Or maybe not, just assuming as you use the same textbook doh.gif I'm in Curtin... and I'm not Sarawakian lol.
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shoot , i thought i found a new gaming kaki here sad.gif
i'm in the UK unfortunately ... haha, but there's always a chance we could bring our sagers out for a spin during summer (june-sept) since i visit friends in miri also laugh.gif

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post Dec 31 2008, 10:16 AM

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u can always go to london corad. My previous mates and I last time used to lepak at MARA hostel for gaming sessions during the weeekends
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post Dec 31 2008, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(corad @ Dec 31 2008, 08:47 AM)
shoot , i thought i found a new gaming kaki here sad.gif
i'm in the UK unfortunately ... haha, but there's always a chance we could bring our sagers out for a spin during summer (june-sept) since i visit friends in miri also  laugh.gif
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Sure I'll glad to if I don't have other plan during that period of time.

[EDIT]

Just finish editing my review... for now tongue.gif . Will add more stuff and photo soon (So I hope). Thanks for linking my review, appreciate that.

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QUOTE(ir1z @ Dec 31 2008, 10:16 AM)
u can always go to london corad. My previous mates and I last time used to lepak at MARA hostel for gaming sessions during the weeekends
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london is about an hour away le. maybe during the long hols ... but too expensive for me just to go down for the weekend tongue.gif

QUOTE(N1-C @ Dec 31 2008, 01:45 PM)
Sure I'll glad to if I don't have other plan during that period of time.

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Just finish editing my review... for now  tongue.gif . Will add more stuff and photo soon (So I hope). Thanks for linking my review, appreciate that.
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no prob man. hope we wont ever have to send these babies to RMA *fingers crossed* laugh.gif
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post Jan 4 2009, 10:54 PM

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Not going to happen with the shipping fees sky high biggrin.gif
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post Jan 5 2009, 09:08 AM

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mana ader expensive laa... take those 1 pound buses lorrr. Buy it early and get that 1 pound ticket
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Hey guys, I'm interested in the NP8660.

But I'm confused, does xoticpc ship internationally ?

If it does, how are the payment methods ?

How long does it take from the day u place your order and the product comes to your doorstep ?
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QUOTE(jacksonyong @ Jan 7 2009, 11:25 AM)
Hey guys, I'm interested in the NP8660.

But I'm confused, does xoticpc ship internationally ?

If it does, how are the payment methods ?

How long does it take from the day u place your order and the product comes to your doorstep ?
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He did state in his first post that it took 3 business days to ship right? Lawl.. Anyway, 6.1k for this is great value for money! The design doesn't suit my tastes though... How's the build quality of this thing? It seems metallic on the outside, but what matters is the feel of the keys...
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post Jan 7 2009, 01:20 PM

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The price is no more 6.1k as it require student discount to do so which only available during certain period of time. Not sure about the detail as I never come across such promotion.

However the US$400 discount will be over today, be fast.
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Student prices for a Sager? You've got to be kidding? Does it apply for high school students only or what? And when's the period for that?
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QUOTE(ir1z @ Jan 5 2009, 09:08 AM)
mana ader expensive laa... take those 1 pound buses lorrr. Buy it early and get that 1 pound ticket
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or play free through internet tongue.gif

QUOTE(jacksonyong @ Jan 7 2009, 11:25 AM)
Hey guys, I'm interested in the NP8660.

But I'm confused, does xoticpc ship internationally ?

If it does, how are the payment methods ?

How long does it take from the day u place your order and the product comes to your doorstep ?
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Yes they ship internationally. USD 223 standard rate with tracking.
there is a cheaper option but that dosent come with tracking. Your hair can turn grey with worry waiting for it to come that way.

QUOTE(Enigmare @ Jan 7 2009, 11:54 AM)
He did state in his first post that it took 3 business days to ship right? Lawl.. Anyway, 6.1k for this is great value for money! The design doesn't suit my tastes though... How's the build quality of this thing? It seems metallic on the outside, but what matters is the feel of the keys...
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Student prices for a Sager? You've got to be kidding? Does it apply for high school students only or what? And when's the period for that?
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Keys are plastic. Abit hard for me but overall still comfortable.

student discounts are only available for university students. too bad they pulled this promotion not long after i bought mine.
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The keys here aren't really a plus point... Was expecting a little more upmarket feel on the keys since Sager is a custom and upmarket brand...

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