thats the worse reply ever.. dude, not meant for gaming? LOL.. where can u get this kinda specs in a lappy for 6.1k..
insane..

even the Asus G50 doesnt have these killer specs n cost rm 500 more.. 
Probably the cheapest laptop with high end GC..
a 9800 GTS u say is not meant for gaming.. haha

haha just ignore him dude, he is from diff world 1...... joined yesterday in this forum and talk bullshit thg already

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Added on October 26, 2008, 7:00 pm
if u want to brag so much.... then show us what u have bought as ur so called "gaming laptop" first.....

I guess you're the kind of person who thinks that the processor and the size of RAM are the decisive component in a system's gaming performance. Haven't heard of a GPU have you? Most probably not judging by your utterly pathetic remarks. Go back to school and educate yourself more.

A gamer could easily get an external mouse as well as an external dispay if he wants to, and with a spec like that, it's far better than most desktops.

LOL. drop here and bragged enough? owh 2nd year MMU student, so? as corad mentioned edy,

Ini Wilayah SAGER. 

dell xps 1730 ?with the 8700m gt sli ?

see this http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForc...SLI.6933.0.html
this sager is not in the same league ...but it is in 'higher ' league

but sure lar it cant beat those alienware lappie since it cost a lot than the sager 

Helped you finish your line

The arguments would not have come if the TS didnt portray the Alienware as "just bling only" and polish his Sager choice to kingdom come. I said it before and I will say it here again, if the decision against the Alienware was purely on the basis of paying premium price over the Sager offering, then we are on the same page here, and I totally agree, the Alienware is more pricetag-prohibitive. But lambasting the Alienware because it has the OPTION of bling, just simply invites a counter-reaction.
I totally agree, and if the criteria at which the choice came from is because "we might not have the budget" and it stops there, I'm with you, brother. But dont make it look as if the Alienware is all bling and no brains inside. That was what I was responding to, as well as TS's insecurities of having a nicer looking laptop(which is again, subjective). The bling (Light Pipe, AlienFX linings, and illuminated keyboard) is OPTIONAL, they can be turned off. Best of both worlds, the world of business-like simplicity, or decked-out decadence.

And heroiuu, you're getting out of context here , dude. The Sager matches, if not overtakes the Alienware specs when it comes portable power. Your arguments are tepid and fickle at best. The looks on the Alienware is not the all-consuming, the-one-and-only reason one should get it. It should only be part of the consideration.

Pure hardcore gamers dont really care if their lappies have the bling factors or not, for us,its just the performance

congrats, u clearly proven to us whats the IQ level of 2nd year MMU student  

You are beyond unbelievable

I'm glad you do. I wish to see your rig with the specs matching to this Sager of which you use it solely for word processing, spreadsheet purposes. Considering this fact, anything lower than these specs will be rendered useless in your league, I suppose.

Hence you're contradicting yourself.

So you're all for the looks, I see? Hmm.. Sounds so much like ricers

so the question is y it hav great spec but it not 4 gaming or multimedia purpose?? is like insert an ferrari engine 2 a minicooper car

Your analogy is flawed, terribly. If a Ferrari engine works in a Mini, it would bring up the performance to Ferrari standard, no? (forget about other things such as how the design of Ferrari reduces friction and all since it's not applicable to notebooks). If you can only afford to get the engine, and not the whole package of a Ferrari, would you rather do that, or go for, a more average of performance and bling car, and stand a higher chance to lose out in a race (performance)? Not to mention in notebooks, there's other factors such as portability too. You keep mentioning XPS 1730, you do know that a 17" and a 15.4" have quite a difference in portability, right? Oh no wait, you just want the blings and other factors are out of your mind.

A gamer requires a rig that runs his/her games smoothly (performance). The blings comes after the performance is satisfied. If Alienware has a typical performance, let's say, 2.0ghz and a 8600M GT, you think Stringfellow would have gone for it? Now you are judging how good a gaming notebook is based on the blings, that's terrible. The Sager with those specs are great as a gaming notebook, regardless of what you said. You first said it would only suit to be used for the basic usage (word processing and bla), but now you're saying it can be used for almost anything. Big contradiction there.

And I would like to ask you,

How in the effin' world is it not suitable for gaming purposes? Oh no wait...

Now it can..

A gaming notebook is first judged on how good it can perform, not how many LEDs and curves it have. Although a combination of both is definitely ideal, you don't get the best of both world every time as the price factor always comes in unless you're some rich brat who gets 10k for his birthday without needing to work anything for it.

You first said it would only suit to be used for the basic usage (word processing and bla), but now you're saying it can be used for almost anything. Big contradiction there.

Well heroiuu, if you try to define gaming laptop in terms of components specification AND bling, you should buy this:



It is a Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S. Available in UK.

The specifications are:
Intel Core 2 Duo P8600 (2.4GHz, 3MB L2 cache, 1066MHz FSB)
NVIDIA GeForce 9700M GTS (GDDR3, 512MB dedicated memory)
4096MB DDR3 1066MHz of RAM
built-in Harman Kardon® stereo speaker system with 2 x bass reflex speakers, 2 x tweeter speakers and 1 x subwoofer technology
more.....

The laptop specification is a bit less powerful than threadstarter's Sager NP8660. So if you were given a choice only to choose between these two laptop, which one would you take? The Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S with fiery red bling bling at the cost of RM7k+ (£1199.99 incl. VAT) OR Sager NP8660 with a more powerful specification and at a lower price of RM6.1k but without a bling bling?

If you choose the Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S which cares only about the outer appearance of the laptop, then you are a fool because you are wasting your money. I know probably you ask why I bought this laptop instead of Sager? The answer is because I prefer a 17" laptop with a dedicated numpad as I frequently use it (I can add a normal keyboard but for me, its a bit redundant.) and I didn't really know about Sager until I came across this post.

Oh and if you are so rich and are willing to spend up to RM10k on a gaming laptop with blings (as in this topic), I can't understand why you cannot afford to study abroad like threadstarter and I did. In UK, you can get a better gaming laptop than in Malaysia.

Don't think that you being a MMU student doing whatever course (I presume that it will be a course related to computing since MMU is famous for that) is that great thinking that whatever gaming pheripal must have the bling factor so that you can show around how cool your laptop are with all the blings to others in your campus colleague. Maybe your mind is a bit redundant causing you to enter MMU  (I apologise to MMU students and ex who might get offended but I merely comment towards heroiuu  ).

Off-topic:
corad, I believe that you study in University of Cambridge since your sig shows that the ISP belongs to the University of Cambridge. If yes, what course are you studying?

Also, for those who are curious what is the 3dMark06 score for Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S, the score is 8303 (on Windows XP Professional SP3) but this is due to the fact that I cannot get a WHQL certified driver for my graphic card for Windows XP. It seems that as of the time of writing, NVIDIA haven't release GeForce 9M series driver for both XP (if they still support which I hope they will) and Vista. Toshiba website only listed WHQL certified Vista driver but none for XP.

If you choose the Toshiba Qosmio X300-11S which cares only about the outer appearance of the laptop, then you are a fool because you are wasting your money

from all the post u have done in here,  u are showing us that u are :-
- only go for branded thgs... (Sager = Bad... Alienware/Dell/Toshiba = Good.. even when sager has better performance and price )
- rich ass spoiled kid... (which didn't consider price, only consider brand and feel.... but too bad u fail to be like 1 since u don't have Alienware)
- like to brag alot... (using 6k lappy for office use work (spreadsheet, powerpoint and etc) but eventually u don't have any of them )
- like to show off...  (2nd yr MMU student, so wat?, MMU student still can be stupid as u might have proven to us )
- stubborn/defensive... (only listen to ur own but not others, even with explanation and the morale behind it)
- very pro *sarcasm*... (where u care touchpad size so much until as if u play Far Cry 2, Crysis and etc with touchpad )
- have problem with keyboard... (maybe u need backlit keyboard to type, i don't know )
- out of topic... (u are the 1 who started the "2nd yr MMU student" first, who to blame? LOL, BACKFIRED!! )
- take it personal... (u are the 1 who took it personal all the time bcoz u don't seems to stop counter all the post which oppose to u )
- fail to comprehend... (fail to detect sarcasm and understand english)
- confuse ppl... (first u said TS lappy is not for gaming.. then u said u won't buy that lappy.. both are diff topic.. we don't concern whether u buy or not )
- shallow knowledge... (in hardware,u don't know how much this Sager NP8660 is better compared to ur fav m1730, only judge by its Cover )
- talented as entertainer... (success to make 3 of my fren laugh like hell after read what u've posted.. good 4 u to hav 1 more career option)
- judge lappy by physical look/feel... (Ur bling/backlit keyboard/multimedia button is far more superior factor than its performance.... if u are mentioning about uncomfortable of using the lappy or what then it can be accepted, but bcoz bling and feel u give up performance and price )

ops done too much.... no offence ya, but i know u won't take it personal, thats why i dare to mention so much ... and ya... im once again ya i know im off-topic.. it can't be help

ooo .. Hi Sabin17 !! Enjoying your Sager?