Woah, Crysis on High on a laptop at 1920x1200?!? I can't even do that on my desktop!!! At 6.1k it's an even better buy than XPS and Alienware!!!

may i ask, the adapter is can used in malaysia? or need converter plug? and 6.1k for whole set evertyhing in a box??? WoW. 1 more, how about warranty purpose?

wow, nice sager. i really wish to have one sager or gateway oneday. neat stuff
ninja edit: thanks for the review and piccies

can't wait for your benchies on Far Cry 2 when it comes out... you'll do it  right?

how long is the period if you play games only using the batt.

corad, could u ask them more about the warranty. since 6.1k is very tempting price with superb specs, we consider about warranty also. since i read on their webs it comes with 3 years warranty. by them or sager? and if got problem here, what is the procedure? sending to them back or claim by our own?

the design look quite dull

the LCD look like square more than wide...

got heat issue??

Superb specs to price ratio. Anticipating more benchies from TS 

Nice stuff going on there. Too bad the warranty issue is a letdown for most people. For 6.1k at such specs, you might describe it as 'affordable' but the problem is the warranty.

ANyways, congrats on the new purchase!! Maybe you want to show off at the "Buy Club" as well. 

corad, may i know how did you purchase it since if i not mistaken they dont do shipping to other countries and they only accept US credit cards?

If i not mistaken xoticpc doesnt do shipping outside of the US or do they? Plus if i was interested in purchasing one, i cant use cc but i need to wire transfer in order to purchase one?

Also i found that for the price your paying is well below the recommended price as displayed at xoticpc, are you entitled to some special discount?

very spec, DDR3 + 500gb HDD + UXWGA+ in 15.4" LCD + Matte screen + 9800GTS 512mb.... everythg is better than mine.... this is abit insane

looking forward for some screenshot such as:
- 3dmark06 default benches,
- simultaneous ATItool stress + Orthos stress (blend+priority 8) + HWmonitor for at least 30mins
- CPU-z + GPU-z

For that price and features .. I will stick on Macbook Pro if I were to upgrade .. but surely not in the near future .. mine is still just under 2 yrs old .. load of life still on it ..

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Added on October 24, 2008, 7:44 amBTW, ain't Sager is one of those companies that rebrand others' products? I believe this brand has been on US market for quite a while and wondering why they're not starting to build their own series from scratch but rather rebrand others'.

it wont take u much time.... as the stress and benches need time to run... so u can go study while it is stressing or running 3mark06 benches.... lol no reason u cant do it bcoz test...

Why do you have a kettle next to your computer? Not dangerous eh?

Btw is the Lenovo thinkpad SL300 being sold in malaysia yet or not?

lol
ts choose laptop for portable lar ..maybe he need to travel to many place yet he want to play games .....

9800gt for what if not for gaming?-.-

haha just ignore him dude, he is from diff world 1...... joined yesterday in this forum and talk bullshit thg already

If that is a snide remark towards mine, then here's a comeback.

An Alienware can be subtle as well, with the Ripley chassis. Getting the Skullcap chassis will definitely turn heads, and if you're that shy type and wants to slink into the background not wanting to attract attention to yourself, or the type that wants to appear business-like, but still project an outlook f someone who appreciates portable computing power, then Alienware with the Ripley chassis is just that. There are lots of technical-related professionals who arm themselves with an Alienware when it is their turn to do their presentations, especially to those relying on CAD drawings or number-crunching applications. That is why Alienware even offers the option of the Nvidia Quadro FX 3600M, specifically for that. And these professionals at some point, do think like you, wanting to avoid unnecessary attention, yet needing considerable processing power with them in portable form all the time.

Turn off the all the AlienFX lighting and guess what? It is as zero bling as your dull Sager. Saves on battery life too. And what's that? BinaryGFX even extends that with using the IGP and processor downclocks for your "presentation infront of the class" moments so that you don't blast those listening on your presentation with hot air from your spinning fan ventings. If you're worried about other people's expectations then you have self-esteem issues. After all, you bought your Sager with that config, and you want it to hide under a plain-jane enclosure? Might as well wrap it in painted tupperware then.

To each his own. Want to be dull and regular like others? Be my guest, but fitting in an out-of-this-world specced components into a dull case, is like fitting in an Evo engine into a nondescript Wira. We all know what we call that around here. Personally, I see it as a damn shame to have no one know that your notebook innards is filled with premium specs when you wrap it with a cookie-cutter case. You wouldnt want a crumbling facade of a house but filled it with leather Italian furnishing and tiled walls and floorings, would you?

I can accept the reasoning of Alienware being a premium (read: priced beyond reach of normal audience) purchase and I'll agree on that fact with you. But once you start harping on the Alienware being too much of an expectation-raiser, then you get others perceiving that it does only that and nothing else. If you had left it at the issue of it being a price factor, I would not have felt compelled to comment at length like this.

Thermal paste? That was the comeback?  A simple call or email to Roswell, would even allow that, at probably no extra charge.The option of not buying an O/S is hardly an advantage. I see Alienware as the the equivalent of Apple in the PC side of things, they marry their components inside nicely and to make sure they work well with each other, that requires an OS to test them out. Installing FreeDOS on a performance notebook and letting the enduser be the guinea pig as to whether those components works well with each other, for something of this caliber, is a form of being irresponsible in my books. I dont want to be troubleshooting FOR them, after the amount of money I have splurged for this.

Again I reiterate, Alienware is not about the bling. Having the bling and turning it off is an OPTION, so that if you're in that LAN Party with the right crowd you can turn it on, and if you're in a more formal setting, you have the OPTION of turning it off. IF your setting is more formal than that of the previous LAN Party setting I've mentioned, then why are you even considering a premium gaming laptop then? Shouldnt it be better to get a business-oriented laptops like the Sony Z. Oh, you wanted the OPTION of gaming on your laptop as well, you say? Well, that concept of having an OPTION I've pointed out comes out nice and clear now, doesnt it? Zing!
Wow, you have security issues there, man. If given an opportunity to own a Ferrari, would you still rather drive a Wira, even if it's Wira engine is shanked off and replaced with a souped up Evo engine? And why the heavy consideration on "what other people think"? You have "what other people think" as one of the consideration on buying your stuff?

Classifying "extravagance" and "premium" is subjective , depending on the level of one's financial security. I find buying a Ferrari as an extravagance, but not to let say, Person A, who loves performance cars, and have either saved and skimp on his savings just enough to buy one. He does not have to be super rich, only do well enough to save up for a Ferrari. Another person,  Person B would say, that getting a Ferrari is out of his consideration because it is not within his affordability range, so that other person picks another car that almost mirrors that Ferrari in performance, but may have certain concessions and sacrifices on looks. It looks scoffingly plain to the untrained eye, but once Person B stepped on that gas pedal, it is a different story. But, it does not stop the general public's already established impression that the Ferrari = fast. No matter how much that Person B wants to preach the virtues of his car, the general public would probably have dubious looks on their face at first before it is "test-driven" to prove his point. It doesnt help that his chosen car have the boxy dimensions of a Kenari.

In 2 years, when all is said and done, which brand would people feel more inclined to purchase, should I choose to resell it then? Alienware or Sager? Point is moot if you choose not to sell it, but having that sense of brand recognition and is like a warm blanket on a rainy day to me.

I'm all for reviews and introducing new brands and their OPTIONS to others, but choosing to harp on those new brand by downtrodding and mocking another brand, you'd most definitely be inviting a counter-reponse from those brand(s) you have retorted against now, wouldnt it? Newton's Third Law, my friend.......your actions most definitely will invite its appropriate REACTIONS.

P/S: This may be a Wilayah Sager, but the Mothership patrols the skies.

The arguments would not have come if the TS didnt portray the Alienware as "just bling only" and polish his Sager choice to kingdom come. I said it before and I will say it here again, if the decision against the Alienware was purely on the basis of paying premium price over the Sager offering, then we are on the same page here, and I totally agree, the Alienware is more pricetag-prohibitive. But lambasting the Alienware because it has the OPTION of bling, just simply invites a counter-reaction.
I totally agree, and if the criteria at which the choice came from is because "we might not have the budget" and it stops there, I'm with you, brother. But dont make it look as if the Alienware is all bling and no brains inside. That was what I was responding to, as well as TS's insecurities of having a nicer looking laptop(which is again, subjective). The bling (Light Pipe, AlienFX linings, and illuminated keyboard) is OPTIONAL, they can be turned off. Best of both worlds, the world of business-like simplicity, or decked-out decadence.

And heroiuu, you're getting out of context here , dude. The Sager matches, if not overtakes the Alienware specs when it comes portable power. Your arguments are tepid and fickle at best. The looks on the Alienware is not the all-consuming, the-one-and-only reason one should get it. It should only be part of the consideration.

This is considerably OT, but if you compare the specs on the processor/graphic cards between my Alienware and corad's Sager, based on benchmarks on notebookcheck.net, it is head-to-head. His Sager has the 9800M GT, compared to my 8800M GTX, and even though I did mention that the 9800M GT is a rebadged 8800M GTX, on benchmarks, his 9800M GT still has an advantage over my 8800M GTX, even if the amount is very very slight. Processor-wise, my X9000 would probably tops his T9400, but he may have set up his system with power-saving in mind. All-in-all, it's actually head-to-head. It's the other extras that balloons the differences between our systems.

I've read and considered a few options before taking this plunge, and I still am perfectly happy with my choice to go Alienware. I like the uniqueness of the chassis, not so much of the AlienFX lighting system. No matter how you weigh your options, I'm sure nobody can completely disregard the aspect of looks when it comes to their laptop purchases. Some may be able to stomach a plain chassis relatively easy, while others may want a particular look.

P/S: This may be a Wilayah Sager, but the Mothership patrols the skies.

So are you saying your presentations are substandard, or implying that those Alienwares gives the perception that the presentation HAVE to be good? Isn't that a good thing? It automatically makes you raise your level of expectation of how you should perform in class, and in presentation, and not to disappoint that perception, and most importantly, YOURSELF. Don't you want that, or are you inherently comfortable with just  "getting by" and passing at minimal grade?

Touché, I stand corrected. Of a single alphabet. And oh, too, just in case I get misunderstood.


"preferably". Sure will, and do drop by. I'll try to be the bigger person to have people dropping by their own consent without having to instigate and poke them with snide statements to actually drop by the thread.

Initially, wanted to put the responses in RED, but I'm keeping it BLUE instead. Don't want to put too much EXPECTATIONS on my responses, I may not do so well in the presentation of these responses. But I try to make it stand out a bit so that it wont get lost in the sea of plain-jane black on the text in here. Probably like the Sager itself too.

well fine som of you said that bling factor is not important....
fine.. simple question than...

Is sager NP8660 is an gaming notebook???

yes or not?? simple as that?? and i said noo....it not....great spec but not a gamming notebook

If you have gotten the T9600 processor, it surpasses even the X9000 processor (overclocking ability apart) according to SuperPi results on this website http://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Proces...ist.2436.0.html

Bad drivers or lousy BIOS apart, the 9800M GT is better than 8800M GTX as well although by a small margin.