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post Oct 6 2008, 09:06 AM, updated 16y ago

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The predecessor thread, "Discussion for Good Harddisk, Harddisk Discussion" first started by victorboy on Oct 8 2005, 08:30 PM had come to a thread limit at 2,500 posts on Oct 6 2008, 02:44 AM. Let continue our journey of harddisk discussion here biggrin.gif

Previous thread: Discussion for Good Harddisk, Harddisk Discussion.

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post Oct 6 2008, 09:24 AM

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can someone post the highlights of the previous thread?
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post Oct 6 2008, 09:25 AM

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i'm sooooo newb in HDD...
so what is 7200.11 or i cant recall d exact??
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post Oct 6 2008, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 6 2008, 09:25 AM)
i'm sooooo newb in HDD...
so what is 7200.11 or i cant recall d exact??
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7200.11 stands for Seagate's 11th Generation of their Barracuda HDD series smile.gif

7200 refers to 7200rpm and 11th Generation is 250GB per platter. It has both 16MB and 32MB cache model. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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post Oct 6 2008, 10:13 AM

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thanks boss...
so compare to WD or Samsung, Seagate stills rock??
sorry for my noobness..
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 6 2008, 10:13 AM)
thanks boss...
so compare to WD or Samsung, Seagate stills rock??
sorry for my noobness..
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Frankly speaking, from my point of view, only 2 big HDD manufacturers now left dominating in the market where the others such as Quantum, Maxtor, etc. have been taken over by them. Samsung has pretty good reputation in the HDD market as well, but not as popular as Seagate and Western Digital do. The popularity which I mean known by every level of users but not only enthusiast.

We can't simply take complaints or RMA rate as reference for the company's performance. The reason there is a high rate because a lot of people using it. How will we know the failure rate from a manufacturer which less sell their product thus less people been using? Make sense, isn't? Furthermore, it is the nature of a human to complain rather than compliment on good stuffs. We hardly read up good feedback, simply because no one will bother if it is good and don't create any trouble tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 5 2008, 11:37 AM)
nope.... why cant you use other brand instead?
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because i have data's inside it cry.gif
once i "revive" the hdd, i'll buy a new one

yet again, anyone have new or 2nd hand TOSHIBA MK8032GAX HDD? (its a 2.5" 80Gb)
i just need the PCB.
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post Oct 6 2008, 12:08 PM

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Nowadays... most ppl use Western Digital and Seagate. These two brands are the most popular at the moment.

Samsung and Hitachi are chasing up.

Maxtor and Quantum are dead.


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so i'll buy another WD 640GB...
need a lot of space nowadays...
thanks for the info..
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(Solid State Disk) SSD will consider? Forget the slow write speed nightmare. sad.gif
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post Oct 6 2008, 01:00 PM

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im not afraid of writing speed... am afraid of loading speed in gaming...
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QUOTE(fariz @ Oct 6 2008, 11:16 AM)
any shop selling caviar black?
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i saw in czone pricelist & found 1TB wd caviar black, but I can't find any 640GB WD caviar black. sad.gif
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 6 2008, 12:26 PM)
waiting for 1TB HDD to drop below RM400.
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If you are talking about internal 3.5" version, i saw M-Tech was selling WD 1TB for only RM399. smile.gif
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Oct 6 2008, 12:26 PM)
waiting for 1TB HDD to drop below RM400.
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It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake? sweat.gif sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 02:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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Why not you just give them a call? It is just as easy as 1 2 3 unsure.gif
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 02:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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1.5TB for RM480??? shocking.gif shocking.gif
That makes my Raptor 160GB look so puny... tongue.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 03:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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got 1.5TB seagate 32mb meh??how come cant find it in pc zone...the seagate i saw is 1TB 32MB sata 3.. RM 480 -,-


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ya..I got the price from their price list:
U can download here: PCZone
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post Oct 6 2008, 04:17 PM

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i think the best way...is contact them...n ask
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1.5tb on 32mb cache?damn...tat must be fast then...
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 02:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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pczone last sat list show only seagate 1tb rm465 & wd 1tb rm410:sweat:
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Oct 6 2008, 05:29 PM)
1.5tb on 32mb cache?damn...tat must be fast then...
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LoL... how you define fast on 32MB compared with 16MB? Can you tell the different? tongue.gif
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(Solid State Disk) SSD will consider? Forget the slow write speed nightmare. sad.gif
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im not afraid of writing speed... am afraid of loading speed in gaming...
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Err.. SDD has excellent read performance over mechanical HDD, more than 5x. It's one of their core advantage.
SSD's write performance is not necessarily better especially those cheaper ones. But those better ones can be 2x faster.
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Anyone know how long warranty for the samsung HDD?Friend told me that got 3 years warranty but when i broght it to thundermacth they told me only valid for one year from the date i purchased on november 2006...thanks
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so is it true??
1TB for <RM500??
great news then...
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so is it true??
1TB for <RM500??
great news then...
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you can get a WD greenpower 1TB < RM400
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yeah....i bought the WD Green Power for RM405 on 21 sept...

so prices should be around there now....



anyway...some benchies of my WD 640GB...

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i compared it with a 500GB 7200.11 screenshot from the previous thread and there isnt much difference... both got pros and cons...

personally...im damn glad i got the 640GB... for the same price i get 140gb more and roughly the same performance... super bang for buck thumbup.gif
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juz wanna ask...

the brands that we see are mainly Seagate, WD< Hitachi and now probably Samsung as well...

i know that Seagate and WD hold the most market share... sure they ve sth that's better...

but how abt the smaller players like Hitachi and Samsung??? besides price being lower, do they have any advantages/disadvantages compared to the other 2??
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well..guess with large cache u can hav higher burst speed rate?correct me if i m wrong...

well...astria..i dun think hitachi and samsung hav cheaper drives than seagate and wd...most of their hdd not bad...i mean also offers on par performances as other hdds..
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QUOTE(fariz @ Oct 6 2008, 09:33 PM)
you can get a WD greenpower 1TB < RM400
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how's it compare to WD 640GB??
price performance ratio?? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(tang @ Oct 6 2008, 08:21 PM)
Anyone know how long warranty for the samsung HDD?Friend told me that got 3 years warranty but when i broght it to thundermacth they told me only valid for one year from the date i purchased on november 2006...thanks
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Samsung's HDD carry 3 years warranty. For warranty claim within the first year of purchase, the shop will provide free service. However, for 2nd year and above will be charged service charge for it if you requested them to RMA for you. You can do it yourself by sending it directly to the Samsung manufacturer. Then of course you'll need to fill in your HDD and warranty details online before you can proceed smile.gif
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congratulation for the new thread, vearn27... rclxms.gif
hmm, looking forward the newest harddisk, Solid State Disk (SSD),
i would like to see how great is this harddisk compare with the normal harddisk that we are using now...
and, the pricing seem dropping and even affortable to purchase the high capacity harddisk... hmm.gif

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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 7 2008, 12:48 AM)
congratulation for the new thread, vearn27...  rclxms.gif
hmm, looking forward the newest harddisk, Solid State Disk (SSD),
i would like to see how great is this harddisk compare with the normal harddisk that we are using now...
and, the pricing seem dropping and even affortable to purchase the high capacity harddisk...  hmm.gif
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Oops... sorry as I had cut your queue for re-opening a new thread for it tongue.gif

Well, I'm still waiting for SSD to be more mature in the market before I invest for one unit of it as my starter laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 7 2008, 01:05 AM)
Oops... sorry as I had cut your queue for re-opening a new thread for it tongue.gif

Well, I'm still waiting for SSD to be more mature in the market before I invest for one unit of it as my starter laugh.gif
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not a problem mate... wink.gif
as for a good haddisk is important to us, i do lost lots of data due to the harddisk failure...
yeah, i would agree your comments, and now the price for this new harddisk is
too expansive to be explore with, perhaps later...

just wonder, dell have an option to upgrade for Solid State hard disk,
with 64GB, is it sufficient to act as the primary hdd for operating system? hmm.gif
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Which is better hdd, external hdd or the desktop one?
i currently using WD Essential 320mb.
Should i go for another external hdd or like desktop 3.5" one... ? Is the difference just the build?
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Oct 7 2008, 01:24 AM)
not a problem mate...    wink.gif
as for a good haddisk is important to us, i do lost lots of data due to the harddisk failure...
yeah, i would agree your comments, and now the price for this new harddisk is
too expansive to be explore with, perhaps later...

just wonder, dell have an option to upgrade for Solid State hard disk,
with 64GB, is it sufficient to act as the primary hdd for operating system? hmm.gif
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Yeah, HDD's data are very crucial and easily cause heavy lost once it's gone due to harddisk failure. Not to mention it's pricey to have backup if the size is very large sweat.gif. That's why I always spread and share my collection of HD movies, etc. In case gone *touchwood*, I can still try to leech it back from them laugh.gif. One of my way to save cost on creating virtual backup tongue.gif

64GB? If purely ONLY operating system should be more than enough. Says if includes software suits such as MS Office, Adobe Suits, etc. it will depends on what you require. I spare myself 100GB for OS and the software suits which is pretty enough for me. Anyway, I did thought of getting a SSD purely for my OS and software suits hmm.gif
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Oct 7 2008, 09:34 AM)
Which is better hdd, external hdd or the desktop one?
i currently using WD Essential 320mb.
Should i go for another external hdd or like desktop 3.5" one... ? Is the difference just the build?
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LOL, do you know that your current WD My Book Essential is using the same HDD as the one in your desktop? tongue.gif

Yeah, you're right. The different just the extra build being external. Once again, it depends on what you need and how you want it to be wink.gif. For me, if I need not travel around with load of data, I would rather make it inside the case. Simple reason, I don't want another power adapter on my socket laugh.gif
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Does we see any other better bench mark other than the faster read or write on hd alone.
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 7 2008, 09:44 AM)
LOL, do you know that your current WD My Book Essential is using the same HDD as the one in your desktop? tongue.gif

Yeah, you're right. The different just the extra build being external. Once again, it depends on what you need and how you want it to be wink.gif. For me, if I need not travel around with load of data, I would rather make it inside the case. Simple reason, I don't want another power adapter on my socket laugh.gif
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ya,power adapter can be very messy.
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i once burned my DVDRW by using d power adapter...
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me just using thumbdrive je...
not much data to buy external...
but for my work, my company give me one Maxtor one touch....

fast and quiet....
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 7 2008, 09:44 AM)
LOL, do you know that your current WD My Book Essential is using the same HDD as the one in your desktop? tongue.gif

Yeah, you're right. The different just the extra build being external. Once again, it depends on what you need and how you want it to be wink.gif. For me, if I need not travel around with load of data, I would rather make it inside the case. Simple reason, I don't want another power adapter on my socket laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Sylvester.ee @ Oct 7 2008, 10:59 AM)
ya,power adapter can be very messy.
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I see. How bout those hdd that you need to buy the casing to put inside one? is that reliable also? No need power adapter rite? smile.gif Whats the difference between 2.5" and 3.5", just the size?

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Oct 7 2008, 11:16 AM)
I see. How bout those hdd that you need to buy the casing to put inside one? is that reliable also? No need power adapter rite? smile.gif Whats the difference between 2.5" and 3.5", just the size?
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Three biggest different between 2.5" HDD vs 3.5" HDD
    1) Size itself of course laugh.gif
    2) Being use externally, 2.5" can be powered by USB (1 x USB2.0 or 2 x USB1.1) while 3.5" will need extra power adapter.
    3) 3.5" has larger capacity limitation compared to 2.5" and capacity / RM more value on the 3.5"
Hope it help smile.gif
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how's it compare to WD 640GB??
price performance ratio?? notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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greenpower, low power usage..

5400rpm tongue.gif

not the kind of drive if you're looking for performance..


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http://www.storagereview.com/Testbed4Compare.sr

pick drive and compare.

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Does SSD can be use with normal laptop? or need to hav specialized laptop/PC?
Use standard connector (SATA/IDE) as standard HDD nowadays?
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 02:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.
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lolz...i rugi 300 as the first early birds of 1 TB dang laugh.gif doh.gif

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me want to wait summore for very2 leng price...
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lol..nvmlar..now u get wd 640gb 2 platter hdd nice ad..fast enuf...proud user here..
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what do u mean by that??
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 7 2008, 03:03 PM)
what do u mean by that??
FYI, i'm super noob in HDD....
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anything u donno u may ask here. tongue.gif

well when i buy hdd i will consider few thing: brand name (wd, seagate, hitachi, samsung), warranty (3 or 5 yrs), size (++GB), connection interface (sata or pata), rpm speed (5400, 7200, 10000) & cache (8, 16 or 32 MB).

if you got more money then u can always go for larger or faster harddrive. that's it. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 7 2008, 03:03 PM)
what do u mean by that??
FYI, i'm super noob in HDD....
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erm..u shud read up...regarding raid 0...btw and u shud read more...its hard to exp though..akkaa
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but i thought we need to see d cache 1st??
then come d speed...
am i wrong??
ya lor...
i'm clueless about raid 0...
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well..depends...seagate 500gb 32mb vs wd 640gb 16mb...most review show wd is faster...but seagate burst speed is high...mayb because of the cache? raid0 is just like running ram at dual channel..but if u run at raid 0..its superb fast i can say...
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so i need to read my mobo manual to master d raid0 rite??
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So, all Green Power HDD from WD is 5400RPM?
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Come to think of it... since HDD's price nowdays at rock bottom... should I get myself another Seagate 7200.11 32MB 500GB for trying out RAID-0? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(mikelanding @ Oct 6 2008, 02:31 PM)
It already drop below RM400 last week or 2.
I saw couple of forumer selling below Rm400.

But now I aim for 1.5TB Seagate 32mb. Saw pczone price list stated RM480. Can some1 have chance to check it out it is real or typo mistake?  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
Do report here yr finding.. Thank!!
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I did not see any forumer sell 1TB below 400 also. All also 400 something, where did u see it? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 7 2008, 03:42 PM)
but i thought we need to see d cache 1st??
then come d speed...
am i wrong??
ya lor...
i'm clueless about raid 0...
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i dont think cache will bring significant improvement to hdd, maybe just a little bit?

from my humble opinion, the hdd rpm speed always come 1st, imagine a 7200 rpm with 32mb cache hdd vs 10000 rpm with 8mb cache hdd, for sure the 10K rpm hdd beat that 7200 rpm drive all the way round.
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can you be more detail about the rpm? a noob here... smile.gif
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When will the Seagate 1.5TB arrive to malaysia?
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 7 2008, 07:22 PM)
can you be more detail about the rpm? a noob here... smile.gif
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rpm means revolution per minutes.for more, ask uncle google.
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i know what is RPM lah duh.. doh.gif what i want is his further explanation why higher RPM mean HDD higher speed.. how to relate it...

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Oct 7 2008, 05:01 PM)
I did not see any forumer sell 1TB below 400 also. All also 400 something, where did u see it?  hmm.gif
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U will see at least 2 seller sell below RM400
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Higher rpm means ur harddisk spin more fast la...result in faster in accessing data(read/write etc)...improve performance..

common sense la biggrin.gif
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Anyone here running on RAID-0? It is really a huge performance leap than being single? unsure.gif

I'm still thinking if I should get another 500GB to RAID it with my current one hmm.gif
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Speaking about rpms, from old thread...

QUOTE(k!nex @ Oct 5 2008, 06:15 AM)
wanna ask u guys smtg. nowadays 7200rpm drives for 2.5inch HDD are easily can be found in LYP. u guys think does it justify to buy it as a external HDD for gaming?(example:some games not available in cybercafe, but u wanna play there.) in terms of price vs performance. including difference between e-sata and usb2.0 interface.
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So where to find them cause its really dam rare when I tried to scout for it. Most that exist was those below 160GB.
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Is Seagate 1.5TB available in Lowyat at the moment?? Can someone help me to find out? I need to get one of this as soon as possible..
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QUOTE(xooper @ Oct 9 2008, 09:03 AM)
Is Seagate 1.5TB available in Lowyat at the moment?? Can someone help me to find out? I need to get one of this as soon as possible..
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but external got wd 2tb. brows.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 8 2008, 10:03 AM)
Anyone here running on RAID-0? It is really a huge performance leap than being single? unsure.gif

I'm still thinking if I should get another 500GB to RAID it with my current one hmm.gif
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i used to.....

to compare...

single WD250gb vs 2xseagate 320gb RAID-0

alot of difference... loading times are significantly faster...

but sadly one of the 320GBs died on me (few months only somemore)...lucky i managed to image my windows into a new HDD... which is the WD640gb

raid0 vs wd 640gb....raid0 faster...but not by much...the wd640gb is damn good...performance on par with ur 7200.11

so imagine how fast ur 7200.11 on raid0 brows.gif

only problem with raid0....HDDs tend to die sooner sad.gif
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wargh....
i really2 dont understand raid0...!
drooling reading urs comment bout raid0....
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When will the Seagate 1.5TB arrive to malaysia?
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WHy raid-0 will die faster?
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dats oso run in my mind...
most ppl do raid0, hdd failure will come across...
y r??
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Lol whats this raid about...i am still new in it....My motherboard says i have raid....but what in the world is it?
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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Oct 9 2008, 07:50 PM)
i'm waiting 4 the 2TB hard disk instead laugh.gif  brows.gif
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1.5TB also not yet arrive here doh.gif U wait for 2TB sweat.gif . I rather buy 2x1TB whistling.gif
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i have a problem here.. im using a sata 2 maxtor 160 Gb HDD... it will sound like restarting itself when the comp is running every few minutes but no error happen... this happen after i upgraded to Vista... windows xp wont have this problem... can anyone help? thanks

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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 10 2008, 01:43 AM)
i have a problem here.. im using a sata 2 maxtor 160 Gb HDD... it will sound like restarting itself when the comp is running every few minutes but no error happen... this happen after i upgraded to Vista... windows xp wont have this problem... can anyone help? thanks
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that hdd u use for storage or OS ?
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QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 10 2008, 01:43 PM)
maxtor death zone is very much faster than other brands
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Hi guys, hope to get some advice here. I'm thinking of buying a 3.5" external HDD for storage purpose.

Is it a good time to buy right now?
Any difference between internal HDD + casing combo and originally external products (such as WD MyBook)?
Does it require AC power supply or is USB enough?
And since I'm going for storage purpose, cache size doesn't matter, right?
WD or SeaGate or others? Or doesn't matter? laugh.gif

Thanks a lot guys notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Oct 10 2008, 09:04 AM)
that hdd u use for storage or OS ?
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the HDD i use as the main OS...

QUOTE(Jcsy @ Oct 10 2008, 12:43 PM)
maxtor death zone is very much faster than other brands
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dead is unlikely to happen as i dual boot this HDD with XP and vista... the weird HDD restarting only happen in Vista but not in XP...
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 10 2008, 12:43 AM)
i have a problem here.. im using a sata 2 maxtor 160 Gb HDD... it will sound like restarting itself when the comp is running every few minutes but no error happen... this happen after i upgraded to Vista... windows xp wont have this problem... can anyone help? thanks
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Similiar to what I had, I changed in the power management to not turn off idling HDD. Can hear the hdd like being turned off when the OS is still working right?
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QUOTE(linkinpark @ Oct 9 2008, 09:58 PM)
1.5TB also not yet arrive here  doh.gif  U wait for 2TB sweat.gif . I rather buy 2x1TB whistling.gif
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lulz...4 me, 1TB > 1TB is not an upgrade at all tongue.gif its just like buying another 3870 when i ardy have 3870 doh.gif when 1TB > 2TB then only cunted ma laugh.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 9 2008, 06:37 PM)
wargh....
i really2 dont understand raid0...!
drooling reading urs comment bout raid0....
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID

For those who are too lazy, here are the most commonly used RAIDs, straight from wiki. There are other raid modes:-

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    * RAID 0 (striped disks) distributes data across several disks in a way that gives improved speed and full capacity, but all data on all disks will be lost if any one disk fails.

    * RAID 1 (mirrored disks) could be described as a backup solution, using two (possibly more) disks that each store the same data so that data is not lost as long as one disk survives. Total capacity of the array is just the capacity of a single disk. The failure of one drive, in the event of a hardware or software malfunction, does not increase the chance of a failure nor decrease the reliability of the remaining drives (second, third, etc).

    * RAID 5 (striped disks with parity) combines three or more disks in a way that protects data against loss of any one disk; the storage capacity of the array is reduced by one disk.

    * RAID 6 (less common) can recover from the loss of two disks.

    * RAID 10 (or 1+0) uses both striping and mirroring.
Meh.
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 10 2008, 01:59 PM)
Hi guys, hope to get some advice here. I'm thinking of buying a 3.5" external HDD for storage purpose.

Is it a good time to buy right now?
Any difference between internal HDD + casing combo and originally external products (such as WD MyBook)?
Does it require AC power supply or is USB enough?
And since I'm going for storage purpose, cache size doesn't matter, right?
WD or SeaGate or others? Or doesn't matter? laugh.gif

Thanks a lot guys notworthy.gif
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Well, all 3.5" external HDD would require external AC Power Supply.

Personally for me, i would rather spend my money on getting one External HDD instead of internal + casing combo. I have tried one with casing before and getting a casing that is good would almost cost as much, if not more than an external HDD.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Oct 10 2008, 07:41 PM)
Well, all 3.5" external HDD would require external AC Power Supply.

Personally for me, i would rather spend my money on getting one External HDD instead of internal + casing combo. I have tried one with casing before and getting a casing that is good would almost cost as much, if not more than an external HDD.
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Thanks for the input. How about the cache size? Does it matter if it's used for storage? Any idea what are the specs of WD MyBook? I can't seem to find it.

Now I'm thinking what size to get laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 10 2008, 08:13 PM)
Thanks for the input. How about the cache size? Does it matter if it's used for storage? Any idea what are the specs of WD MyBook? I can't seem to find it.

Now I'm thinking what size to get laugh.gif
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Well, i guess the MyBook is actually the exact same thing with the internal 3.5" WD 1TB HDD. Just that it comes together with a nice case and maybe some cooling fins inside the case itself. So basically, its the exact same HDD, no matter you are getting the internal HDD + a nice external case or the WD MyBook. This is on the 1TB HDD though. Not sure whether the other sizes are exactly the same or not.
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QUOTE(akachester @ Oct 10 2008, 08:27 PM)
Well, i guess the MyBook is actually the exact same thing with the internal 3.5" WD 1TB HDD. Just that it comes together with a nice case and maybe some cooling fins inside the case itself. So basically, its the exact same HDD, no matter you are getting the internal HDD + a nice external case or the WD MyBook. This is on the 1TB HDD though. Not sure whether the other sizes are exactly the same or not.
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Ah, I see. Thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 9 2008, 06:11 PM)
i used to.....

to compare...

single WD250gb vs 2xseagate 320gb RAID-0

alot of difference... loading times are significantly faster...

but sadly one of the 320GBs died on me (few months only somemore)...lucky i managed to image my windows into a new HDD... which is the WD640gb

raid0 vs wd 640gb....raid0 faster...but not by much...the wd640gb is damn good...performance on par with ur 7200.11

so imagine how fast ur 7200.11 on raid0 brows.gif

only problem with raid0....HDDs tend to die sooner sad.gif
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Thanks a lot for your experience input Bro mADmAN smile.gif

Well, I read that somehow RAID-0 improve our performance, but the performance is only significantly noticeable on NFS (Network File System) and in some cases it could actually degrade the performance on us as normal user. It's almost similar like the case for AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) and NCQ (Native Command Queuing). So I was wondering how fast we can really benefit from it in our normal daily usage? smile.gif

HDD tends to die sooner? Aiks... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 10 2008, 09:16 PM)
Thanks a lot for your experience input Bro mADmAN smile.gif

Well, I read that somehow RAID-0 improve our performance, but the performance is only significantly noticeable on NFS (Network File System) and in some cases it could actually degrade the performance on us as normal user. It's almost similar like the case for AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) and NCQ (Native Command Queuing). So I was wondering how fast we can really benefit from it in our normal daily usage? smile.gif

HDD tends to die sooner? Aiks... sweat.gif
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RAID-0 is like multithreading in processors. Say you have 4 hard disks, you RAID-0 them. You split the workload to the 4 hard disks and each hard disk keeps 1/4 part of the data(not necessarily, try raid-0 different sizes of hdd). Since you split the workload, you would get up to 4 times the performance. This is all handled by the RAID-0 processing chip. Fake RAID-0 requires the processor to handle the RAID, which is why there are performance degradation.

My explanation is getting out of hand.

What you need to know is, 2 hard disk raid-0 is twice as fast as 1 hard disk, 3 hard disk raid-0 is 3 times as fast as 1 hard disk, etc etc etc etc.
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Oct 10 2008, 05:00 PM)
Similiar to what I had, I changed in the power management to not turn off idling HDD. Can hear the hdd like being turned off when the OS is still working right?
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ya ya!! thats my situation... how to fix that? its anoying to hear the sound... mad.gif
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just bought 1unit 3.5" 160gb seagate hdd & 2unit 2.5" 160gb wd hdd. hope they dun fail on me again. sweat.gif
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im actually looking for My Book Essential Edition, but i just cant find any 640GB or 750GB 1.....shops just got 500GB and 1TB oni....
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Anyone know how is the performance and which one will last longest if compare between seagate 750gb 32mb with WD cavier green 16mb 640gb. Which one is more realiable?

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well..cant compare those two based on pricewise...
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What is the maximum data transfer using 2 HDD without any CRC error,corrupt or heat problem? drool.gif

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lol without heat problem? put heatsink on the HDD and use high RPM fan.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(kingsthii @ Oct 11 2008, 04:11 PM)
Anyone know how is the performance and which one will last longest if compare between seagate 750gb 32mb with WD cavier green 16mb 640gb. Which one is more realiable?
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FYI, the 640gb is NOT the green power HDDs... its the normal caviar but with really good performance...

green power HDDs consume less power but also sacrifices on performance.
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 12 2008, 01:43 AM)
lol without heat problem? put heatsink on the HDD and use high RPM fan.. tongue.gif
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So, there is no limit/corrupt/error of transfer file if using the high RPM fan? 1 TB to 1 TB, is it possible? brows.gif

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might can prevent corrupt or error but not the transfer speed... tongue.gif
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U all download Torrents? Thats why u need so big HDDs?
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so it is confirm dat using raid0 can result to bad hdd??
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Check this out:
500 GB Hard Disk Drive Round-Up

If you're lazy to read, here's the conclusion:

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Here is a breakdown of what we found out about each hard drive included in our round-up:

rclxub.gif Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 (HDP725050GLA360): It is cheaper than the other reviewed drives and, believe, there is a reason for that: lower performance. Even though it achieved an average transfer rate comparable to Samsung’s model, it has a terrible access time. Don’t buy.

hmm.gif Samsung Spinpoint F1 DT (HD502IJ): Although it is faster than Western Digital Caviar SE16, it is slower than Seagate Barracuda 7200.11. It is an option only if you can’t find Seagate Barracuda 7200.11.

thumbup.gif Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 (ST3500320AS): This is the drive we recommend for the average user. It provides a performance higher than other mainstream units at the same price range, thus providing the best cost/benefit ratio. If you can spend a little more a better option is the new Western Digital RE3.

hmm.gif Seagate Barracuda ES.2 (ST3500320NS): An enterprise drive with good performance, but Western Digital RE3 is faster and thus our recommended product for this segment.

sweat.gif  Seagate SV35.3 (ST3500320SV): A hard disk drive targeted to digital video surveillance systems with a good transfer rate. What killed this hard disk drive was its access time: it was the drive with the worst access time in our round-up. Don’t buy. Western Digital RE3 costs the same thing and is faster.

rclxub.gif Western Digital Caviar GP (WD5000AACS): This is a “green” drive with variable rotational speed in order to save energy. We didn’t measure power consumption, so we can’t talk specifically about energy savings. Its performance was one of the worst and thus we can’t recommend this product. Don’t buy.

rclxub.gif Western Digital Caviar SE (WD5000AAJS): Performance worst than the majority of drives we tested, probably due to its lower buffer size (8 MB). Don’t buy.

rclxub.gif Western Digital Caviar SE16 (WD5000AAKS): Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 is far faster and costs the same thing. Don’t buy.

rclxub.gif Western Digital RE2 (WD5001ABYS): Lousy performance. Don’t buy.

notworthy.gif  Western Digital RE3 (WD5002ABYS): This was the best drive in our review. But since it is targeted to the enterprise market – meaning it has a higher reliability – it costs more. If you are looking for an enterprise-class product, this is the one you should pick. This product is also recommended to regular users that want a higher performance and can pay a little bit more to have the fastest 500 GB drive around. Of course a VelociRaptor 300 GB will be faster, but it costs far more and you will have less storage space: if you want to have more than 300 GB you will have to buy and put two of these in RAID0, what will create a huge hole in your wallet.
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Any WD MyBook users here? Comments?
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can i know there is how many type of hardisk in the market currently.

What I mean is category (example is ide,sata) other than this what type..
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can i know there is how many type of hardisk in the market currently.

What I mean is category (example is ide,sata) other than this what type..
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IDE, SATA, SATA II, USB? hmm.gif
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Is there any way to connect a 2.5" HDD to a notebook without external enclosure?
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Guys, any recommendations on software to burn-in HDD?
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i dont have prawns in my comp but for other ppl is yes... i only store music, animes and movies... movies use up alot of space leh.. tongue.gif
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500GB is easily used up. Especially for pirates (almost everyone? ph34r.gif )

If you have interest in movies and music, go get Rapidshare premium account, or an unthrottled BT connection, 500GB is easily filled wink.gif Especially for HD stuffs shakehead.gif
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yupz... thats right..me too like HD stuffs.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 12 2008, 02:42 PM)
torrent and many prawns video of cos...

so it is confirm dat using raid0 can result to bad hdd??
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When you want sell me HDD full of prawns? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Raid0 won't result in a HDD failure... It'll just function like a HDD and it stripe your DATA into 2 HDD for faster access... If one fails, ALL data gone lor...

Everybody is soooo concerned with access time... seek time and whatever speed bump but I hardly see people go RAID0... Why ahh?
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lol...like u say...they worry deir file juz gone like dat
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Bah. I did a CHKDSK and...

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Gotta ask for another replacement doh.gif and I've just spent hours setting up and updating this doh.gif
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QUOTE(ndgoh @ Oct 15 2008, 12:28 AM)
When you want sell me HDD full of prawns?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

Raid0 won't result in a HDD failure... It'll just function like a HDD and it stripe your DATA into 2 HDD for faster access... If one fails, ALL data gone lor...

Everybody is soooo concerned with access time... seek time and whatever speed bump but I hardly see people go RAID0... Why ahh?
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my library is virtual infinite boss...u know what i mean... brows.gif

dats is my concern r...failure HDD is a big deal for me...
my work and manytng is inside....i google and found out most of ppls running RAID0 suffer the effect later...

can sumone defy this to encourage me to go for raid0... laugh.gif icon_question.gif blush.gif
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lol to be honest i dono what mode im running now.. i forgot what i set for my sata HDD last time and if not mistaken is raid becoz i follow the mobo guide... =.= scare of any data lost
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just bought a new external hard disk from lowyat yesterday, my book home 1T, but when i access to it, the exact amount of space is onli 930 gb, where the rest go to?
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western digital green power drive purchase is not bad.. high performance + low power consumption.

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r u sure high performance??
5400rpm aite??
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QUOTE(abcstop @ Oct 15 2008, 02:18 PM)
just bought a new external hard disk from lowyat yesterday, my book home 1T, but when i access to it, the exact amount of space is onli 930 gb, where the rest go to?
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If you check out the HDD, it is in FAT32 format instead of the normal NTFS. I got mine at 930GB as well instead of 1TB. I suggest if you do not need the software in the HDD, format it cause FAT32 does tend to feel slower than NTFS for me. However, do remember you will never get full 1TB. Something to do with relevant 1024bytes calculation which i never tend to remember tongue.gif

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I'm getting myself a WD MyBook 1TB too. Online reviews show that the software included = crap and that the first thing you should do is format it to NTFS laugh.gif But if it shows 930GB that's quite a big loss. It should show 976GB unsure.gif
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r u sure high performance??
5400rpm aite??
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7200rpm.. check from the reviews from websites.. google search.

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not totally high perf as it sacrifice the perf to save power...
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i transfer everything to my external dy. And.... i start downloading lot of movie already, so if i wanna to transfer all my stuff from my external back to my computer again, there will be not enough space.... troublesome.... lol
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QUOTE(abcstop @ Oct 15 2008, 02:18 PM)
just bought a new external hard disk from lowyat yesterday, my book home 1T, but when i access to it, the exact amount of space is onli 930 gb, where the rest go to?
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I'm getting myself a WD MyBook 1TB too. Online reviews show that the software included = crap and that the first thing you should do is format it to NTFS laugh.gif But if it shows 930GB that's quite a big loss. It should show 976GB unsure.gif
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Dudes... google up... put some effort in finding information...

For operating systems, it recognize 1 Kilobytes = 1,024 bytes; 1 Megabyte = 1,024 Kilobytes; 1 Gigabytes = 1,024 Megabytes.

For manufacturer, it recognize 1 Kilobytes = 1,000 bytes; 1 Megabyte = 1,000 Kilobytes; 1 Gigabytes = 1,000 Megabytes.

Thus manufacturer's 1 Terabytes = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes

while

in operating system become: 1,000,000,000,000 / (1,024 x 3) = 931GB

Make sense now? It has been explained over and over in this forum sweat.gif

P/S: Next don't ask why the manufacturer consume the 24 thingy, email their customer care if you curious enough.
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Ah! I've always thought that although manufacturer's 1GB = 1000MB, the MB is of 1024*KB. Didn't know it's 1000 way down to B laugh.gif
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Need some suggestion~

I look for HDD for performance ~ Gaming + DL movie

should i choose Seagate 7200.11 500GB which 225 or

add another 15 to get WD 640 Caviar SE16 which just 240??
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 16 2008, 10:06 AM)
Need some suggestion~

I look for HDD for performance ~ Gaming + DL movie

should i choose Seagate 7200.11 500GB which 225 or

add another 15 to get WD 640 Caviar SE16 which just 240??
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for me, i will go with Seagate 7200.11 500GB smile.gif
see the previous page, u will know why.
got some hard disk comparisons as reference.
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i personally prefer seagate.. but if you want more space then go for WD... as for performance im not really sure about it.. smile.gif
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i google some review about WD640AAKS

http://techreport.com/articles.x/14380/1

seen like WD done pretty well
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guys i'm looking for external hardisk to backup my photos...any suggestion..if possible got ext hdd below RM150?afraid to lost my precious moment fo the second time..thanks in advance.If possible can direct me the places that sell gd quality hdd.
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QUOTE(tachlio @ Oct 16 2008, 10:06 AM)
Need some suggestion~

I look for HDD for performance ~ Gaming + DL movie

should i choose Seagate 7200.11 500GB which 225 or

add another 15 to get WD 640 Caviar SE16 which just 240??
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Seagate's 7200.11 should be better in performance.
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Seagate's 7200.11 should be better in performance.
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even WD 640GB cant beat dat seagate ka?? blink.gif
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640GB is just the capacity, not the performance :-\
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guys i'm looking for external hardisk to backup my photos...any suggestion..if possible got ext hdd below RM150?afraid to lost my precious moment fo the second time..thanks in advance.If possible can direct me the places that sell gd quality hdd.

bump
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2008, 01:54 PM)
640GB is just the capacity, not the performance :-\
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i means performance la abang...
u said seagate wan is faster...
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 16 2008, 04:37 PM)
i means performance la abang...
u said seagate wan is faster...
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Yeah, it is. Doesn't that answer your question? mellow.gif
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Any ppl know where to but the samsung F1 hdd ??
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2008, 10:54 PM)
Yeah, it is. Doesn't that answer your question? mellow.gif
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doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif
i need u elaborate... doh.gif
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 17 2008, 11:03 AM)
doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif
i need u elaborate... doh.gif
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=20579670
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Seagate's 7200.11 should be better in performance.
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In reality , you hardly felt the increase the performance.unless you transfer ahem stuff 24/7.
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 17 2008, 11:22 AM)
dude...that one is comparing all the 500GB drives la.....

people are comparing the 500GB 7200.11 vs the WD 640GB...



anyway...to compare... quoted from V1

QUOTE(fylon @ Sep 29 2008, 02:22 PM)
Lol. Just OT for a little so can bring in some fun! Relax.. icon_rolleyes.gif

Anyways guys, here is my new Seagate 7200.11 500GB SATA2 bench!

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and my own WD640GB (HD Tach Long test)
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and HD Tach Short Test
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as u see...not much difference...

and when i bought the WD640GB it was actually RM2 CHEAPER than the Seagate 500GB 7200.11
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thanks Madman...
seem i need to use bigger font next time for all forumers to see clearly...
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 17 2008, 11:53 AM)
dude...that one is comparing all the 500GB drives la.....

people are comparing the 500GB 7200.11 vs the WD 640GB...
anyway...to compare... quoted from V1
and my own WD640GB (HD Tach Long test)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/7444/640gblongxx2.jpg
and HD Tach Short Test
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/4082/640gbquickti8.jpg
as u see...not much difference...

and when i bought the WD640GB it was actually RM2 CHEAPER than the Seagate 500GB 7200.11
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Aside from the capacity, the specs are the same and thus it can be a guideline.

He asked for performance, I gave an answer based on what I know. I never said it was a definite answer, hence the word should.

Agreed that the difference is not much; but if you transfer huge amount of data, it should be noticeable.

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QUOTE(aura82 @ Oct 16 2008, 03:19 PM)
guys i'm looking for external hardisk to backup my photos...any suggestion..if possible got ext hdd below RM150?afraid to lost my precious moment fo the second time..thanks in advance.If possible can direct me the places that sell gd quality hdd.

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You're looking for 2"5 or 3"5?
Take your pick, these are non-cap ayam hdd + enclosure.
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Pricelist from Viewnet. (They almost always have the lowest prices)

Your budget is too low. (unless you don't mind buying a pre-owned hdd.)


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QUOTE(ndgoh @ Oct 15 2008, 12:28 AM)
When you want sell me HDD full of prawns?  brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif

Raid0 won't result in a HDD failure... It'll just function like a HDD and it stripe your DATA into 2 HDD for faster access... If one fails, ALL data gone lor...

Everybody is soooo concerned with access time... seek time and whatever speed bump but I hardly see people go RAID0... Why ahh?
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A good PSU can greatly reduce the chances of a RAID0 system from failing.

I'm using RAID0 on 2 systems, and one of it is a dedicated video editing machine. It's been 2 years plus, so far so good. Backups are done manually once in a while. tongue.gif


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is wd 640gb still good to grab?
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Oct 18 2008, 04:00 AM)
is wd 640gb still good to grab?
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look at madman post...
sure can give somtng...
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 16 2008, 11:41 AM)
Seagate's 7200.11 should be better in performance.
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wd 640aaks is a two platter hdd, which means 320+320gb and its a perpendicular drive...compared to seagate, its only single platter hdd with larger cache...larger cache only comes in play when u copy a really large file for a long time...or geting higher burst speed...i wudnt say review right or wrong at all time, but judging my experience, after tested 2 units, i can feel a slightly beter performance for the wd when installing games...
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..so western digital 1.0Tb is double platter drive?
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i duno,..i juz read up this for my personal drive..well..u can alwiz sak pak google..there are certain drives by samsung i gues, ad 3 platters
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Heads up... grab your WD640GB HDD from ALL IT now for a batshit crazy price of RM230! I've never seen it drop this low before.

Their MyBook series are also rather cheap compared to other stores, especially the 500GB Home Edition (USB2.0) - RM299.

Didn't expect them to beat Viewnet's pricelist.

(for today at least)
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dats a good price for a huge HDD...
want to buy one oso...
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Oct 18 2008, 08:19 AM)
wd 640aaks is a two platter hdd, which means 320+320gb and its a perpendicular drive...compared to seagate, its only single platter hdd with larger cache...larger cache only comes in play when u copy a really large file for a long time...or geting higher burst speed...i wudnt say review right or wrong at all time, but judging my experience, after tested 2 units, i can feel a slightly beter performance for the wd when installing games...
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All large HDD now all stores data standing up instead of lying down... (perpendicular technology le...).

Again, my curiosity is why so few people uses RAID0 when speed speed speed is so important for choosing a HDD? rclxub.gif

Running RAID0 does not make your HDD die faster... doh.gif


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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Oct 15 2008, 09:50 AM)
my library is virtual infinite boss...u know what i mean... brows.gif

dats is my concern r...failure HDD is a big deal for me...
my work and manytng is inside....i google and found out most of ppls running RAID0 suffer the effect later...

can sumone defy this to encourage me to go for raid0... laugh.gif  icon_question.gif  blush.gif
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Bro... When are going for a bowl of PRAWN mee? brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

Try RAID0 la... Very nice to play with arr... Just remember to have a back up HDD for ALL your precious prawns... ermm... data I mean... drool.gif

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I would rather put 2 WESTERN DIGITAL GREEN POWER DRIVES running RAID mode.. faster and save power..

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im running raid 0.. always hang when i use XP last time but works great after formated to Vista.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(cannavaro @ Oct 18 2008, 10:04 PM)
Heads up... grab your WD640GB HDD from ALL IT now for a batshit crazy price of RM230! I've never seen it drop this low before.

Their MyBook series are also rather cheap compared to other stores, especially the 500GB Home Edition (USB2.0) - RM299.

Didn't expect them to beat Viewnet's pricelist.

(for today at least)
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what about wd 1tb price?
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1Tb around RM500 tot.....
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Hey all,

I am looking to upgrade my Dell notebook HD to a SATA 7200 RPM hd. I went to digital mall today, and no one carries any 7200 RPM HD. Anyone has any idea where i can get one?


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For 7.2k rpm 2.5" notebooks hdds u can try and find in lowyat plaza, but bear in mind that 7.2krpm hdds are much more expensive than 5.4k one. for 160gb 7.2k u can get 250gb 5.4k,just my 2 cents.

anyway, for raid 0 , how to backup the files in hdd since the hdd is running in raid 0?
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QUOTE(5564321 @ Oct 19 2008, 08:21 PM)
For 7.2k rpm 2.5" notebooks hdds u can try and find in lowyat plaza, but bear in mind that 7.2krpm hdds are much more expensive than 5.4k one. for 160gb 7.2k u can get 250gb 5.4k,just my 2 cents.

anyway, for raid 0 , how to backup the files in hdd since the hdd is running in raid 0?
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for the 7200rpm is more suitable for used on laptop rather than used as external usb purpose.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Oct 20 2008, 12:10 AM)
for the 7200rpm is more suitable for used on laptop rather than used as external usb purpose.
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Hey guys,

Thanks for the response. I have actually called PC zone and other pc shops in lowyat, and none of them carry any 7200 rpm 2.5 internal HD for notebooks. Any ideas or anyone ever bought a 7200 rpm in Lowyat? Thanks in advance smile.gif
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Thank for help all here~

I just bought 6400AAKS due to price/performance~

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sad.gif i would just like to try it one last time:

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f=25&t=779334

can my hd be saved? thanks in advance!
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anyway, for raid 0 , how to backup the files in hdd since the hdd is running in raid 0?
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Err... backup using another non-raid HDD?

Here's my current setup, utilizing all 6 sata ports on my mobo:
160gb
160gb
160gb = RAID0

320gb = System / Storage (Normal partition)

eSata = 640gb (this is where I backup my files. I don't do a 100% backup though, just some selected files)

..and a sata optical drive.


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Hi , I got a few hard disk question want to ask.
Using a western digital GP green power installing games.Does anyone feel slow when loading games or installing games ?
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thanks dude..so below 250 can find almost good one la...

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Hi , I got a few hard disk question want to ask.
Using a western digital GP green power installing games.Does anyone feel slow when loading games or installing games ?
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Well if you read the 500GB hdd round-up a few pages back:
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Western Digital Caviar GP (WD5000AACS): This is a “green” drive with variable rotational speed in order to save energy. We didn’t measure power consumption, so we can’t talk specifically about energy savings. Its performance was one of the worst and thus we can’t recommend this product. Don’t buy.


You'll get significant gains if you RAID0 it though. rclxms.gif
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Well if you read the 500GB hdd round-up a few pages back:
You'll get significant gains if you RAID0 it though. rclxms.gif
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Thanks but so which one do you suggest to get ? well just to install games around 250GB is enough.Which brand is better?
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Thanks but so which one do you suggest to get ? well just to install games around 250GB is enough.Which brand is better?
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WD and seagate is good but seagate got 5 years warranty while WD got 3 only. Since HDD spoil easy more warranty is better but I still prefer WD over seagate because my 3 previous seagate HDD never live more than 2 years.

However, seagate and WD has improve since then so I'm sure seagate is a good buy. If you got the money just go for min 500GB since games size is getting bigger and you might need it for other purpose.
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QUOTE(lotiman2003 @ Oct 20 2008, 10:18 PM)
WD and seagate is good but seagate got 5 years warranty while WD got 3 only. Since HDD spoil easy more warranty is better but I still prefer WD over seagate because my 3 previous seagate HDD never live more than 2 years.
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Which shop got sell caviar black woo..


And what is the price?
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caviar black? u mean black cover on the top? haha...my bad experience..whichever black case of the wd hdd will nvr perform good..nvr last more den 1 year..UNLESS RAPTOR...better look for those with silver case...
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that's the old label..

now they use 3 colors label

green - slow, low power drive
blue - label color for caviar, caviar SE and caviar SE16
black - performance drive

http://www.wdbreakingnews.com/faqs/

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Are there any difference in using a cheap RM20 and an expensive RM150 external enclosure? Most probably the more expensive enclosure is better at dissipating heat, but apart from that, will the life span of the hard disk be shorter or more risky if using a cheap enclosure? Will speed be different even if both are USB 2?
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I just got my WD MyBook 1TB this afternoon. Just ran a diagnostic test using WD's own diagnostic tool.

Not even 30 minutes later...
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Test Error Code: 08-Too many bad sectors detected.
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QUOTE(Crazy.SoT.Gila @ Oct 23 2008, 11:02 PM)
I just got my WD MyBook 1TB this afternoon. Just ran a diagnostic test using WD's own diagnostic tool.

Not even 30 minutes later...
Hell shakehead.gif
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most likely bad product handling on reseller/distro side..

heck.. just send it back for an exchange

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Oct 23 2008, 11:05 PM)
most likely bad product handling on reseller/distro side..

heck.. just send it back for an exchange
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I think you can change it 1 to 1 for the first week of purchase.Good luck.
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I think you can change it 1 to 1 for the first week of purchase.Good luck.
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if longer then tat,u can do rma service from the website
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if longer then tat,u can do rma service from the website
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Bloody unlucky sleep.gif Gonna stay away from WD for future purchases


Added on October 24, 2008, 7:40 amGah. I ran a CHKDSK /R and no bad sectors were detected. Now running WD's diagnostics again; 1 hour into the test, it's still going on rclxub.gif

Similar case to my current internal HDD - chkdsk detects 4kb on bad sector, Dell's diagnostics pick up nothing doh.gif GAH!

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thought id share this with everyone....

last week i sent a dead seagate HDD for RMA directly to the distro in summit subang.....

today i received the replacement hdd...

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big big box
user posted image

upon opening... nice foam is the first thing u see...
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underneath the white foam u see the HDD packed snugly
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the HDD sitting snugly in even more foam
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i LOVE the way they packed the HDD.... really makes me feel secure about the HDD...



not only that... service was damn fast too about 1-2 weeks only... plus with the packaging, it gives me even more confidence to buy Seagate HDDs thumbup.gif



EDIT: added quote tags to avoid pic quoters

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same question again...did anyone help me to find out Is Seagate 1.5TB available in Lowyat at the moment?? I need to get one of this in this few days, I saw it listed in their price list, but no sure they got stock or not... can Someone help me to find out please....many many THanks.
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so u saw it in the pricelist???

which means u have the shop phone number.....

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 25 2008, 02:35 AM)
thought id share this with everyone....

last week i sent a dead seagate HDD for RMA directly to the distro in summit subang.....

today i received the replacement hdd...
i LOVE the way they packed the HDD.... really makes me feel secure about the HDD...
not only that... service was damn fast too about 1-2 weeks only... plus with the packaging, it gives me even more confidence to buy Seagate HDDs thumbup.gif
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nice packaging, ai.... i bought WD640 due to price/perfomance

although i more like Seagate smile.gif
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QUOTE(xooper @ Oct 25 2008, 07:37 AM)
same question again...did anyone help me to find out Is Seagate 1.5TB available in Lowyat at the moment??  I need to get one of this in this few days, I saw it listed in their price list, but no sure they got stock or not... can Someone help me to find out please....many many THanks.
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c-zone selling it for RM700
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 25 2008, 02:35 AM)
thought id share this with everyone....

last week i sent a dead seagate HDD for RMA directly to the distro in summit subang.....

today i received the replacement hdd...
i LOVE the way they packed the HDD.... really makes me feel secure about the HDD...
not only that... service was damn fast too about 1-2 weeks only... plus with the packaging, it gives me even more confidence to buy Seagate HDDs thumbup.gif
EDIT: added quote tags to avoid pic quoters
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yupz thats very cool indeed... i prefer seagate too... they really put a lot of effort... smile.gif and is it still the 5 years warranty thing?
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 25 2008, 02:35 AM)
thought id share this with everyone....

last week i sent a dead seagate HDD for RMA directly to the distro in summit subang.....

today i received the replacement hdd...

i LOVE the way they packed the HDD.... really makes me feel secure about the HDD...
not only that... service was damn fast too about 1-2 weeks only... plus with the packaging, it gives me even more confidence to buy Seagate HDDs thumbup.gif
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Isn't that Western Digital also providing such similar anti-shock packaging when they send back a HDD to customer after RMA? unsure.gif

I did not do any RMA before *touchwood sweat.gif* but I remember once I bought a 2nd hand HDD from a forumer and he passed to me inside a Western Digital RMA packaging like the one mADmAN posted smile.gif
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QUOTE(Aquariusdenz @ Oct 25 2008, 11:01 AM)
yupz thats very cool indeed... i prefer seagate too... they really put a lot of effort... smile.gif and is it still the 5 years warranty thing?
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QUOTE(vearn27 @ Oct 25 2008, 11:38 AM)
Isn't that Western Digital also providing such similar anti-shock packaging when they send back a HDD to customer after RMA? unsure.gif

I did not do any RMA before *touchwood sweat.gif* but I remember once I bought a 2nd hand HDD from a forumer and he passed to me inside a Western Digital RMA packaging like the one mADmAN posted smile.gif
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they do??? cool...

ive only had 1 experience RMAing a WD HDD...and that one i sent to the shop so it came back to me (after about a month) with just an anti static bag....i guess u only get this kinda service if u send back directly to the manufacturer

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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 25 2008, 06:48 PM)
they do??? cool...

ive only had 1 experience RMAing a WD HDD...and that one i sent to the shop so it came back to me (after about a month) with just an anti static bag....i guess u only get this kinda service if u send back directly to the manufacturer
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Most probably I guess it is smile.gif. They'll provide such anti-shock packaging while couriering it to your place if you deal directly with them. Beside the need to save cost, need to be environment friendly as well tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Oct 25 2008, 06:48 PM)
they do??? cool...

ive only had 1 experience RMAing a WD HDD...and that one i sent to the shop so it came back to me (after about a month) with just an anti static bag....i guess u only get this kinda service if u send back directly to the manufacturer
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Most probably I guess it is smile.gif. They'll provide such anti-shock packaging while couriering it to your place if you deal directly with them. Beside the need to save cost, need to be environment friendly as well tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Oct 26 2008, 05:36 AM)
no wor, my WD RMA comes with a box like Seagate one wor
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actually...dey send back their rma products in a very good packaging so next time u will be able to pack it using the same packaging again without disobeying their rules of rma...if u notice, the rma process for every hdd which is to be sent back, they are all required to be packed and recommended to use their very own packaging when u send it back....guess this is to help both sides..so no accidents might happen during shipping..who noes when u get the rma unit and immidiately canot be used? i m one of them...my rmaed wd 250gb with black cover used less than 1 week and i nid to send back for rma again...its faulty...tats y earlier on i insisted forumers not to get black cover hdd....after i rma again, i got back the silver colour cover..
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I have a WD Scorpio which has some bad sectors. Right now wanna do the RMA claim, their door to door charge is USD $ 7.5 ?

http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/rmainfo...nd&rnd=04387171
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Hey anyone know where WD Caviar Black 1tb is sold in Lowyat? Or has it even reached Malaysia yet?

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QUOTE(iRonTech @ Oct 31 2008, 08:24 AM)
I have a WD Scorpio which has some bad sectors. Right now wanna do the RMA claim, their door to door charge is USD $ 7.5 ?

http://websupport.wdc.com/warranty/rmainfo...nd&rnd=04387171
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hey iRonTech, yeah, unless you got the WD drive less than 6 months ago, else, you got to pay that, they will pickup and return the drive for you, need a credit card to do that also,

backup your stuff
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Hey anyone know where WD Caviar Black 1tb is sold in Lowyat? Or has it even reached Malaysia yet?
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So far,i dont see any WD Caviar Black 1tb selling in lowyat...They just sell 1tb green power...
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Nov 2 2008, 03:49 AM)
hey iRonTech, yeah, unless you got the WD drive less than 6 months ago, else, you got to pay that, they will pickup and return the drive for you, need a credit card to do that also,

backup your stuff
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QUOTE(chanws8 @ Nov 2 2008, 03:54 AM)
So far,i dont see any WD Caviar Black 1tb selling in lowyat...They just sell 1tb green power...
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Awww, I was really looking forward to buying one. Anyone else who has this hard drive and where to get them??
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I RMAed quite a number of WD HDD before and none came back with a box. All of them always come back with a Anti Static bag only smile.gif
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i m using maxtor sata 80GB 3 yrs oredi,still can function well^^
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i m using maxtor sata 80GB 3 yrs oredi,still can function well^^
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I want to know seagate 320GB and western digital 320GB , which one using one platter ?
Which one more silent ?
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I've never seen any Fujitsu hdd selling in market so far...
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erm is it better to direct get a external HDD or get internal + the casing?
getting a 1TB 3.5" HDD soon maybe on next PC fair ^.^
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hi guys..i had question here..which one is better,500GB at 32 or 640GB at 16?and which one is valueable the most..1 tera at RM370 or 640GB at 240?
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QUOTE(Maxieos @ Nov 4 2008, 05:29 PM)
I want to know seagate 320GB and western digital 320GB , which one using one platter ?
Which one more silent ?
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Sorry , would like to know before buying notworthy.gif
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Any one tried hardware RAID0 setup before?
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i tried...on two system, one is tpower and one more is p35 t2rs..superb fast...tested the dfi board wif 2pcs of seagate 500gb 32mb and tpower wif samsung 160gb 8mb...both are superb fsat..but the seagate will b faster
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any help guys ??
I want to know seagate 320GB and western digital 320GB , which one using one platter ?
Which one more silent ?


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HDD aren't that noisy nowadays.. but if you save a lot of files, some HDD will start to produce noisy sound when loading... no need to worry about the brand.. but i personally go for Seagate.. smile.gif
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Ya,me too....Coz seagate offers 5 years warranty...Anyone knows bad sector can be warranty or not?
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lol..bad sector can warranty wan..juz request for rma in the website...dey will replace u one..dun worry
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any help guys ??
I want to know seagate 320GB and western digital 320GB , which one using one platter ?
Which one more silent ?
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its better you list out the model name. you question is too general.
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wow, Seagate seem there were people who facing bad sectors... rclxub.gif
so far all my Seagate hdd doesn't have any this symptoms.. doh.gif

any good comments on Samsung hdd?
thinking to buy Samsung hdd for my future storage expansion... hmm.gif
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i recently found my old 80gb harddisk under my old desk. I want to convert is to external harddrive BUT 1st i want to check if it still functioning or not. The problem is, i dont have any desktop pc for now to check it manually, i only hav laptop..

is there any method to check the hdd b4 i buy the hd casing?
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juz buy new hdd its cheap rite now....
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QUOTE(c2v2 @ Nov 11 2008, 03:32 PM)
i as a newbie sweat.gif  compare to all u experts, need an answer to this:

i recently found my old 80gb harddisk under my old desk. I want to convert is to external harddrive BUT 1st i want to check if it still functioning or not. The problem is, i dont have any desktop pc for now to check it manually, i only hav laptop..

is there any method to check the hdd b4 i buy the hd casing?
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if u wanna do it with ur laptop... ur gonna need a hdd casing laugh.gif

OR u can plug it into a desktop PC and test it out


then use softwares like Seagate's SeaTools to test to make sure its in perfect health.
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i guess u better try using the ide to usb or sata to usb b4 investing into larger thgs...getting a external case is much more costly den buying those cables alone to test it out
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ya its cheaper to get those cables.. who knows how if the HDD is faulty... then you will wasted your money buying external case.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(victorboy @ Nov 10 2008, 03:50 PM)
wow, Seagate seem there were people who facing bad sectors... rclxub.gif
so far all my Seagate hdd doesn't have any this symptoms.. doh.gif

any good comments on Samsung hdd?
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Seagate HDD is good choice right?
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its a good brand i can say..
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i plan to buy a 1TB hdd , which brand is more better ?? western digital or seagate ??
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i plan to buy a 1TB hdd , which brand is more better ?? western digital or seagate ??
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id recommend going for the Green Power 1TB from WD... though u lack performance with this HDD u save power.

but if performance is an issue, get 2*Seagate 500GB or 2*WD 640GB and RAID 0 thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 14 2008, 02:07 PM)
id recommend going for the Green Power 1TB from WD... though u lack performance with this HDD u save power.

but if performance is an issue, get 2*Seagate 500GB or 2*WD 640GB and RAID 0 thumbup.gif
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id recommend going for the Green Power 1TB from WD... though u lack performance with this HDD u save power.

but if performance is an issue, get 2*Seagate 500GB or 2*WD 640GB and RAID 0 thumbup.gif
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yea..greenpower dont perform better den those seagate 32mb or wd 640gb..not really lack..juz lose out some
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yea..greenpower dont perform better den those seagate 32mb or wd 640gb..not really lack..juz lose out some
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caviar black suppose to be a performance wan if i m not mistaken
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caviar black suppose to be a performance wan if i m not mistaken
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duno..not sure...lowyat plaza perhaps?
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1TB drop again?

WD10EACS GreenPower 1TB = RM372

but it is 4plate version sad.gif
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1TB drop again?

WD10EACS GreenPower 1TB = RM372 

but it is 4plate version sad.gif
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 14 2008, 01:31 PM)
yea..greenpower dont perform better den those seagate 32mb or wd 640gb..not really lack..juz lose out some
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1TB drop again?

WD10EACS GreenPower 1TB = RM372 

but it is 4plate version sad.gif
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So, in terms of just storage of movies, songs and etc, Greenpower hdd is okay or not since u said that it doesnt perform well?

Whats is or wats wrong with 4 plate? hmm.gif

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the latest one is 333g plate (x3) , old is 250g (x4)

new one less power..

WD10EACS-00D6B0 (3plate) @RM420 bought last month~
WD10EACS-00ZJB0 (4plate)
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Nov 14 2008, 02:15 PM)
i think so , but where hav sell WD Caviar Black 1TB ??
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u can b2b order wif any shop tat officially carry WD HDD...

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well..depending on where r u staying? sume retail shops may hav it as they do hav regular high end-demanding customers
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i tink ssd still very costly in the market...well...1.8'" mayb for media players like creative zen..
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Compare WD10EACS 1TB

WD10EACS-00ZJB0 (Sept '08), WD10EACS-00D6B0 (July '08),


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lol..cut cost or wat? or bigger pcb for higher stability?
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u can b2b order wif any shop tat officially carry WD HDD...
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back to back order
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Anyone is using below? coz which 1 to choose from. rclxub.gif

WD 3.5" 7200rpm, 16MB Buffer, SATA II Caviar Raid Edition
WD Caviar RE are engineered for 24/7 RAID systems. RAID-specific time limited error recovery helps prevents drive fallout

WD 3.5” SATA AV Drive 7200rpm - Reliable cool and quiet competible
Designed for demanding audio and video environments.
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NL35 Series SATA RAID-Ready
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review shows re performs better den standard drives on raid system...well..if u are the fan of wd...and not going for raid, y dun u pick the 640gb version?
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Compare WD10EACS 1TB

WD10EACS-00ZJB0 (Sept '08), WD10EACS-00D6B0 (July '08),
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I also noticed that.hope the newer one quality did not drop, only price drop.
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review shows re performs better den standard drives on raid system...well..if u are the fan of wd...and not going for raid, y dun u pick the 640gb version?
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U meaning going for normal 640gb?
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erm..sum soft of...if i m not mistaken there is only one model for 640gb...its 2 platter and perpendicular technology hdd
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I also noticed that.hope the newer one quality did not drop, only price drop.
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lol..smaller pcb so decrease performance?
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performance drop...........

but wat about power consumption?? is it still the same?? or is it even lower or higher???
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don't have voltage detecter , can't check.

I saw chinese magazine before , 4 plate only +~1w different. but much lower than AAKS , YS (blue,black series).

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Am buying 2 more TB hard disk. Which one you guys recommend? Seagate or WD or Samsung or Hitachi or Fujitsu ?

For heavy duty use --- buy 2 now to try out, and if they pass the tourture test, will buy 3 more later, for raid configuration.

thanks for sharing !
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review shows re performs better den standard drives on raid system...well..if u are the fan of wd...and not going for raid, y dun u pick the 640gb version?
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i am not a fan of any brand, i dun need performance but want a reliable hdd, coz i already tired of keeping rma those normal wd & seagate. doh.gif
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oic...hmmphh..den i got no solution for u..haha
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I just want to confirm whether the ES of seagate or seagate NL35 Series SATA RAID-Ready is a reiable hdd, or WD Caviar RE better.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Nov 21 2008, 01:31 AM)
I just want to confirm whether the ES of seagate or seagate NL35 Series SATA RAID-Ready is a reiable hdd, or WD Caviar RE better.
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ES and RE also ok. RE sounds louder though.
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 19 2008, 03:34 AM)
review shows re performs better den standard drives on raid system...well..if u are the fan of wd...and not going for raid, y dun u pick the 640gb version?
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about the wd 640GB HD --- this is my suggestion ....

DON'T BUY IT !!!

I bought one when it baru came out, within weeks, HD starts to behave strangely.

Upon checking -- BAD SECTORS !!

C'mon la ! Bad sectors??

This is supposed to be a "perpendicular recording" drive, and still bad sectors?

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wat strange problem u mean? may i noe? i have been using for months and no problems up...perhaps only ur hdd kena...how do u noe its bad sector?
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Nov 21 2008, 02:05 PM)
wat strange problem u mean? may i noe? i have been using for months and no problems up...perhaps only ur hdd kena...how do u noe its bad sector?
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when reading, the thing keeps spinning and spinning and spinning ... slow response ... and at last, I ran a chkdsk on it to diagnose.

found --- bad sectors

no wonder the thing keeps spinning and spinning --- things stored on bad sectors how to read?

Also, it gets very VERY HOT !

The Seagate 1TB drive that I'm using on another PC don't even get so hot. This 640GB disk, sigh ....

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QUOTE(kalambong @ Nov 21 2008, 07:51 PM)
about the wd 640GB HD --- this is my suggestion ....

DON'T BUY IT !!!

I bought one when it baru came out, within weeks, HD starts to behave strangely.

Upon checking -- BAD SECTORS !!

C'mon la ! Bad sectors??

This is supposed to be a "perpendicular recording" drive, and still bad sectors?
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Urs is wd raid edition? shocking.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Nov 22 2008, 06:17 PM)
Urs is wd raid edition?  shocking.gif
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The problem is that maybe thats why WD is the only one with 640g edition? How come other hdd makers like Seagate or etc dun have 640g? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(kalambong @ Nov 21 2008, 07:51 PM)
about the wd 640GB HD --- this is my suggestion ....

DON'T BUY IT !!!

I bought one when it baru came out, within weeks, HD starts to behave strangely.

Upon checking -- BAD SECTORS !!

C'mon la ! Bad sectors??

This is supposed to be a "perpendicular recording" drive, and still bad sectors?
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ive been using mine for months without a single hitch man.... and im sure theres alot of other people who are VERY happy with their drives....

guess ur just one of the unlucky ones...

oh....and send for RMA la...

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eh bought 6 of wd 640 aaks for our office a few months back
and have been running 24/7 since then

and our technician check for errors on hdd every 6 months..
no prob so far...
but this was in a office that runs 24/7 in aircon..

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Nov 22 2008, 06:38 PM)
The problem is that maybe thats why WD is the only one with 640g edition? How come other hdd makers like Seagate or etc dun have 640g?  hmm.gif
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Will it be the pc shop staff fall down ur WD RE on the floor before? hmm.gif

QUOTE(mADmAN @ Nov 23 2008, 03:57 AM)
ive been using mine for months without a single hitch man.... and im sure theres alot of other people who are VERY happy with their drives....

guess ur just one of the unlucky ones...

oh....and send for RMA la...
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Did u scan for bad sector monthly? hmm.gif

QUOTE(cstkl1 @ Nov 23 2008, 04:01 AM)
eh bought 6 of wd 640 aaks for our office a few months back
and have been running 24/7 since then

and our technician check for errors on hdd every 6 months..
no prob so far...
but this was in a office that runs 24/7 in aircon..
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Ur technician got scan for bad sector using through mode? or fast scan? hmm.gif
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Well, i'm using WD Element 1TB series , which using the green hdd, so far so good as a storage device smile.gif

I store and play MKV files from the hdd, no problem so far smile.gif

due to the USB2.0, the transfer rate is =_=" haha and i notice green hdd will auto turn to sleep mode if you don't use it, i guess that is the part it save the power
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hei guys.... wanna ask something ah... just sent my WD again for rma... lol... this is the 2nd time sending it already... yea i know.. its kinda sad... the thing is.. there's a LOT of bad ass sectors... so its ok... send for warranty lor... when i see my reciept ah.. its says bad sector and a burnt port... how can u burn a port on the hdd?? haih... no wonder i saw that person smelling my hdd.. lol...
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anyone got any updates for the seagate 1.5tb freeze issues?

it seems that the new firmware has fix the bug?
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is this the meaning of Auto on/off with your computer ?will it over heat?or wad?
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no idea..shudnt be a prob...juz the lifespan will be lessen due to overusage?
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Nov 23 2008, 05:29 PM)
anyone got any updates for the seagate 1.5tb freeze issues?

it seems that the new firmware has fix the bug?
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Apparently its been solved
http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/messag...cending&page=13

HAve anyone gotten a 1.5 TB seagate hard disk from Low Yat? I was there yesterday and it seems that the 1.5 TB is all sold out.

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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 25 2008, 03:15 PM)
Apparently its been solved
http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/messag...cending&page=13

HAve anyone gotten a 1.5 TB seagate hard disk from Low Yat? I was there yesterday and it seems that the 1.5 TB is all sold out.
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Sure or not? didn't 1.5 TB just came out? Why so fast sold out? And someone said that 2TB is coming out end of Dec. Anyone can confirm this?
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The problem is that maybe thats why WD is the only one with 640g edition? How come other hdd makers like Seagate or etc dun have 640g?  hmm.gif
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the main reason WD have 640G HDD is due to business strategy, imagine, you're paying 500G price but getting 640G capacity. Since I'm staying in Pg, if using PC Depot pricing, you find out the lowest cost per GB, 640GB drive is the most value for money.

It same as Seagate have 750GB drive where as WD don't have it.
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 25 2008, 03:15 PM)
Apparently its been solved
http://forums.seagate.com/stx/board/messag...cending&page=13

HAve anyone gotten a 1.5 TB seagate hard disk from Low Yat? I was there yesterday and it seems that the 1.5 TB is all sold out.
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it seems that those that apply the firmware solved the issue
but there are still so many people that still could not get their hands of the firmware
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it seems that those that apply the firmware solved the issue
but there are still so many people that still could not get their hands of the firmware
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Don't they have it on their server for everyone to download?
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Hi all, im not sure if this is appropriate thread for me to ask this noob question..

Is there a difference in game performance if i install the game on SATA or IDE hardisk. I know SATA is faster then IDE but does it affect game performance?

i have SATA as primary and IDE as slave.

Thank you very much..
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QUOTE(kalambong @ Nov 21 2008, 07:51 PM)
about the wd 640GB HD --- this is my suggestion ....

DON'T BUY IT !!!

I bought one when it baru came out, within weeks, HD starts to behave strangely.

Upon checking -- BAD SECTORS !!

C'mon la ! Bad sectors??

This is supposed to be a "perpendicular recording" drive, and still bad sectors?
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Hmm, using it since August 2008. So far so good smile.gif Very satisfied with it.
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it seems that those that apply the firmware solved the issue
but there are still so many people that still could not get their hands of the firmware
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The reason is because not all drives are compatible with the firmware update. There are currently 2 types of firmware found (SD1A and CC1H) and they are given by Seagate after you contact their technical support (giving serial/part number) and it's for your own use only. There are cases where some drives were bricked when they perform the update with firmwares provided by other users who obtained them from Seagate for their own drives.
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QUOTE(kalambong @ Nov 21 2008, 07:51 PM)
about the wd 640GB HD --- this is my suggestion ....

DON'T BUY IT !!!

I bought one when it baru came out, within weeks, HD starts to behave strangely.

Upon checking -- BAD SECTORS !!

C'mon la ! Bad sectors??

This is supposed to be a "perpendicular recording" drive, and still bad sectors?
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WD640GB user here. Buy in September 08 So far, yes, working very well even though doing lots of formatting and partitioning. smile.gif
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buy before september 2008 , then the hdd sure hav problem ??
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 26 2008, 10:37 AM)
Don't they have it on their server for everyone to download?
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nope,
they will only email you the firmware

QUOTE(SySTeM_eRRoR @ Nov 26 2008, 02:51 PM)
The reason is because not all drives are compatible with the firmware update. There are currently 2 types of firmware found (SD1A and CC1H) and they are given by Seagate after you contact their technical support (giving serial/part number) and it's for your own use only. There are cases where some drives were bricked when they perform the update with firmwares provided by other users who obtained them from Seagate for their own drives.
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yea the owners claim that some of the tech support did not know such issue existed and was playing "creative" style,
thus many users that got frustrated as they did not get a fix



QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Nov 26 2008, 03:55 PM)
buy before september 2008 , then the hdd sure hav problem ??
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Affected part number: 9JU138-300, 336 with firmware revisions SD15, SD17, or SD18. So i'm not sure what batch is it currently

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wanna buy external HDD in this PC fair... abt 160GB to store dramas. some1 recommend me SATA,but i oso wan noe which brand is better? any brand to recommend ???

My previous external HDD had some prob,all PC cant read tat HDD coz cant detect the USB. my dad said is sth to do vif de cable... he said tat HDD is not SATA. What shud i do so tat PC can read tat HDD again?




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QUOTE(louis6 @ Nov 26 2008, 08:21 PM)
wanna buy external HDD in this PC fair... abt 160GB to store dramas. some1 recommend me SATA,but i oso wan noe which brand is better? any brand to recommend ???

My previous external HDD had some prob,all PC cant read tat HDD coz cant detect the USB. my dad said is sth to do vif de cable... he said tat HDD is not SATA. What shud i do so tat PC can read tat HDD again?
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i think is seagate coz it hav 5 years warranty , i think ur buy another external hdd case to test it
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QUOTE(louis6 @ Nov 26 2008, 07:21 PM)
wanna buy external HDD in this PC fair... abt 160GB to store dramas. some1 recommend me SATA,but i oso wan noe which brand is better? any brand to recommend ???

My previous external HDD had some prob,all PC cant read tat HDD coz cant detect the USB. my dad said is sth to do vif de cable... he said tat HDD is not SATA. What shud i do so tat PC can read tat HDD again?
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QUOTE(louis6 @ Nov 26 2008, 07:21 PM)
wanna buy external HDD in this PC fair... abt 160GB to store dramas. some1 recommend me SATA,but i oso wan noe which brand is better? any brand to recommend ???

My previous external HDD had some prob,all PC cant read tat HDD coz cant detect the USB. my dad said is sth to do vif de cable... he said tat HDD is not SATA. What shud i do so tat PC can read tat HDD again?
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my freiend have the same problem with ur HDD try buy the case and use maybe can fix the problem my friend done it tat way and it works rclxms.gif my 40GB HDD spoiled too because i accidental pressed the circle place sum thing turning inside tat dont know wad lol

my feel is western digital better i tot u guys say tat seagate easy broke? rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(Radeon @ Nov 26 2008, 04:10 PM)
nope,
they will only email you the firmware
yea the owners claim that some of the tech support did not know such issue existed and was playing "creative" style,
thus many users that got frustrated as they did not get a fix
Affected part number: 9JU138-300, 336 with firmware revisions SD15, SD17, or SD18. So i'm not sure what batch is it currently
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How come they do not upload it on their support site so everyone can fix it??

I guess I shall go lowyat or PC fair to check, are you planning to get 1 1.5TB? Have you looked at the prices of the 1.5TB in different shops? I think viewnet is the cheapest.
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why so many ppl buy the WD VelociRaptorâ„¢ 150GB rather than the 300gb 1 ??
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How come they do not upload it on their support site so everyone can fix it??

I guess I shall go lowyat or PC fair to check, are you planning to get 1 1.5TB? Have you looked at the prices of the 1.5TB in different shops? I think viewnet is the cheapest.
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Read my post as to why they do not upload it on their site
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can someone help me???im planning to put my 320gb hd to my pc and buy a new 1tb hd and put it in my coolermaster xcraft 350 sata 3.5..i wonder if this case can support 1tb storage since the box said it can support up to 500 gb only. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Orain @ Nov 30 2008, 06:50 AM)
can someone help me???im planning to put my 320gb hd to my pc and buy a new 1tb hd and put it in my coolermaster xcraft 350 sata 3.5..i wonder if this case can support 1tb storage since the box said it can support up to 500 gb only. hmm.gif
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but xcraft also can support up to 1TB ( http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=32&id=5342 )
Got 1 Cooler Master hdd case can support up o 1TB is X Craft 360 acording to this website : http://www.coolermaster.com/products/produ...cate=32&id=2520
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Anyone tried the New Velociraptor 150gb? How does it perform? Is it advisable to get it? That would be just for my OS.. and games and programs..
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Anyone tried the New Velociraptor 150gb? How does it perform? Is it advisable to get it? That would be just for my OS.. and games and programs..
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Have u tried hdtune yet?
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1TB current price is RM300+. Wait till it drops until RM300, I will then sapu 2pcs. brows.gif
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QUOTE(zeist @ Nov 30 2008, 11:10 PM)
1TB current price is RM300+. Wait till it drops until RM300, I will then sapu 2pcs. brows.gif
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Anyone knows the price for samsung's spindisk F1, read many reviews on it rated higher in performance than WD raptor. And cheaper in price, so quite value for money. In terms of performance and value.

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How much 1TB now? Isn't it is 400 myr? I only knows that 500gb is 190myr only. By the way, where to buy Samsung F1? Thanks.
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How much 1TB now? Isn't it is 400 myr? I only knows that 500gb is 190myr only. By the way, where to buy Samsung F1? Thanks.
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why dun buy the WD caviar Black ? ?
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1tb now about 3XX....wd caviar black or seagate 7200.11 32mb will do..
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QUOTE(fujkenasai @ Nov 27 2008, 01:23 PM)
How come they do not upload it on their support site so everyone can fix it??

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only some of the batch are affected they are worried that you flash the wrong firmware and killed your drive

updates:

ST31500341A drives with part numbers of 9JU138-301 should be updated to CC1H.

Drives with part numbers of 9JU138 -300 and -336 should be updated to SD1A.

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WD 1TB Caviar Black is about 5XX.
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WD 1TB Caviar Black is about 5XX.
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got ppl selling RM 4 xx
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look it up at pc fair..i bet they sure will hav lots of units
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QUOTE(seanlimys @ Dec 2 2008, 10:51 AM)
look it up at pc fair..i bet they sure will hav lots of units
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WD 1TB Caviar Black selling more expensive then Seagate 1TB now?

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what do you guys think bout the reliability of the Seagate Baracuda and Western Digital HDD?

previously when i was hunting for a reliable HDD, the IT guy in my company told me that most of the consumer hdd is not really reliable for 24/7 usage....when i asked further, he recommended my to go for the Seagate SV.35 series which is for Surveillance Video.....due to the fact that my company is a distributor for CCTV, they have tested quite a no of HDD in the market for reliability and after all these years, the most reliable hdd they have tested is the SV.35 series....i have also seen quite a no of Western D and Baracuda series coming in for RMA after 1-2 years of usage...

this really makes me wonder if the normal consumer hdd is reliable enough to last for bout 3-4 years operation because i have quite a no of movies n songs saved in it.....what do you guys think?
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Then you cant just rely on hdd, because mechanical stuffs are prone to break down after long usage so you need to do some backup as well.

Seagate and WD are equally reliable.
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QUOTE(mitodna @ Nov 30 2008, 11:21 PM)
How much 1TB now? Isn't it is 400 myr? I only knows that 500gb is 190myr only. By the way, where to buy Samsung F1? Thanks.
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Try find allngap,selling at RM280 for 1tb,but is the OEM version...2 month warranty

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Dec 2 2008, 12:40 PM)
what do you guys think bout the reliability of the Seagate Baracuda and Western Digital HDD?

previously when i was hunting for a reliable HDD, the IT guy in my company told me that most of the consumer hdd is not really reliable for 24/7 usage....when i asked further, he recommended my to go for the Seagate SV.35 series which is for Surveillance Video.....due to the fact that my company is a distributor for CCTV, they have tested quite a no of HDD in the market for reliability and after all these years, the most reliable hdd they have tested is the SV.35 series....i have also seen quite a no of Western D and Baracuda series coming in for RMA after 1-2 years of usage...

this really makes me wonder if the normal consumer hdd is reliable enough to last for bout 3-4 years operation because i have quite a no of movies n songs saved in it.....what do you guys think?
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sv35 for ide or sata? as my lowyat fren advise me not to go for sv35 as it got a high percentage of failure rate compare wit other model of seagate. doh.gif now duno should go for nl or es series, or just go for wd ler. sad.gif
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1TB consume a lot more power? How is the temperature?
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Dec 2 2008, 12:40 PM)
what do you guys think bout the reliability of the Seagate Baracuda and Western Digital HDD?

previously when i was hunting for a reliable HDD, the IT guy in my company told me that most of the consumer hdd is not really reliable for 24/7 usage....when i asked further, he recommended my to go for the Seagate SV.35 series which is for Surveillance Video.....due to the fact that my company is a distributor for CCTV, they have tested quite a no of HDD in the market for reliability and after all these years, the most reliable hdd they have tested is the SV.35 series....i have also seen quite a no of Western D and Baracuda series coming in for RMA after 1-2 years of usage...

this really makes me wonder if the normal consumer hdd is reliable enough to last for bout 3-4 years operation because i have quite a no of movies n songs saved in it.....what do you guys think?
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i'd say it's bout luck afterall,
my old WD 40gb hdd still working good till now.
been transfered from 3 systems changes and now still using as primary drive at amdx2 rig.
that's more than 5yo' on 24/7 usage.

as for my current maxtor 200gb, already 24/7 for 3yo'+
lucky me, never encounter any hdd dead on my hand. laugh.gif

QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 2 2008, 05:40 PM)
1TB consume a lot more power? How is the temperature?
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WD got 1tb version under green power series which suppose to save power while compromising bit performance.
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nope abit its a lot....
but wd green power slow as hell man
but its run cool and low power la
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Just bought 2 1tb HDD NS version... 2 months warranty... Hope it wont die on me la...
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wah...where to get..i oso wan le..
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QUOTE(ndgoh @ Dec 2 2008, 10:33 PM)
Just bought 2 1tb HDD NS version... 2 months warranty... Hope it wont die on me la...
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samsung?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Dec 2 2008, 04:22 PM)
sv35 for ide or sata? as my lowyat fren advise me not to go for sv35 as it got a high percentage of failure rate compare wit other model of seagate.  doh.gif  now duno should go for nl or es series, or just go for wd ler.  sad.gif
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well...my company is one of seagate partner and even they told us that the SV.35 is much more reliable than their consumer range....i doubt the SV35 would give you much problem cos this is suppose to be a surveillance grade hdd ....unlike computer system, surveillance system stresses the hdd 24/7 everyday without stop....so far the SV35 series seldom breaks down unlike other models that we have tried....if the hdd is not reliable, i doubt seagate would dare to place a higher MTBF compares to their other range.....

for me, i find that the raptor is the most reliable hdd that i have ever used....i have used the 36gb raptor close to 4 years with my computer being on 24/7 everyday....no problem for me but in this 4 years, 2 units of western digital and seagate has failed on me....now i have all my important files backed up into another hdd just in case....its just too unpredictable....
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QUOTE(ndgoh @ Dec 2 2008, 10:33 PM)
Just bought 2 1tb HDD NS version... 2 months warranty... Hope it wont die on me la...
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You buy from AllnGap? Im thinking of getting 1TB hdd from allngap, but which should i buy? Normal or enterprise? just mainly for storage purpose n backup
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Dec 2 2008, 12:40 PM)
what do you guys think bout the reliability of the Seagate Baracuda and Western Digital HDD?

previously when i was hunting for a reliable HDD, the IT guy in my company told me that most of the consumer hdd is not really reliable for 24/7 usage....when i asked further, he recommended my to go for the Seagate SV.35 series which is for Surveillance Video.....due to the fact that my company is a distributor for CCTV, they have tested quite a no of HDD in the market for reliability and after all these years, the most reliable hdd they have tested is the SV.35 series....i have also seen quite a no of Western D and Baracuda series coming in for RMA after 1-2 years of usage...

this really makes me wonder if the normal consumer hdd is reliable enough to last for bout 3-4 years operation because i have quite a no of movies n songs saved in it.....what do you guys think?
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hmm.gif if im nt wrong...there is some hdd for business usage rite?

QUOTE(Irishcoffee @ Dec 2 2008, 06:57 PM)
nope abit its a lot....
but wd green power slow as hell man
but its run cool and low power la
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how long would a 1TB external HDD goes too hot?i mean how long can it support if plug to a computer?getting a WD 1TB on the incoming pc fair
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can't say how long can it support when connected to pc... many ppl left their external HDD connected to pc everyday... it should not be a problem since its design for mostly laptop user who dont have big HDD space...
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i tink it all depends on the casing...the material..quality

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I just burned my Seagate ST3500320AS i think.
When i boot pc it hanged a while for IDE detection.Then boot failure.
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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 2 2008, 01:55 PM)
Then you cant just rely on hdd, because mechanical stuffs are prone to break down after long usage so you need to do some backup as well.

Seagate and WD are equally reliable.
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I concur.
I'd also like to highlight the importance of using a good PSU. If you value your data, avoid those capalang, non true-power PSUs.
I've only had 1 broken HDD so far. It was a 40GB Maxtor, and the PC it was on was running on a cheap iCute PSU.


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Anyone have spoilt seagate recently?
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samsung?
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Seagate NS version... tongue.gif


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QUOTE(ericpires @ Dec 3 2008, 11:18 AM)
You buy from AllnGap? Im thinking of getting 1TB hdd from allngap, but which should i buy? Normal or enterprise? just mainly for storage purpose n backup
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From Allngap, price difference only RM40... get the NS or SV version... this 2 is meant for 24/7 operation... so, supposely better in terms of build quality... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 4 2008, 07:31 PM)
Anyone have spoilt seagate recently?
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yupz i have... 1.2GB Seagate HDD... WIN 95 era.. tongue.gif others never have problem...
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QUOTE(Oxburg @ Dec 4 2008, 07:31 PM)
Anyone have spoilt seagate recently?
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my lappy's HDD got sound when it used for few hours....the longer you use,louder the sound.
It's very annoying....
What going on in it??
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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Dec 5 2008, 04:01 PM)
my lappy's HDD got sound when it used for few hours....the longer you use,louder the sound.
It's very annoying....
What going on in it??
hmm.gif
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may i know the brand of ur hdd?
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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Dec 5 2008, 04:01 PM)
my lappy's HDD got sound when it used for few hours....the longer you use,louder the sound.
It's very annoying....
What going on in it??
hmm.gif
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backup backup dude

that hd is dying any minute
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my HD suddently make a loud "glass scratching like" sound for about 10 sec... The comp is hanged at the moment. After the sound stopped, computer started moving again.. Later on problems like PFN list corrupt and suddently reboot , or keep rebooting(fail to enter the window) happen until i shut it down for a moment... and start again... My hd is seagate 200gb barracuda..
Is this the sign of death ?
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QUOTE(decarusz @ Dec 5 2008, 07:12 PM)
my HD suddently make a loud "glass scratching like" sound for about 10 sec... The comp is hanged at the moment. After the sound stopped, computer started moving again.. Later on problems like PFN list corrupt and suddently reboot , or keep rebooting(fail to enter the window) happen until i shut it down for a moment... and start again... My hd is seagate 200gb barracuda..
Is this the sign of death ?
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Nowadays freaking cheap wei....sweat.gif
I was awe struck with the rice of the 1TB drives....

Outdated for a long time adi me....
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also if i recall, the sound started as i install Rivatuner while doing some program running at the background.. it only happen once...
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Dec 5 2008, 04:31 PM)
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I not sure about it.
It comes in set.
QUOTE(Radeon @ Dec 5 2008, 05:30 PM)
backup backup dude

that hd is dying any minute
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shocking.gif shocking.gif shocking.gif
are you kidding??
the lappy I just bought it half year ago.
So fast gonna say bye to my HDD??
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lol...no warranty meh???go claim for it lo...

btw,my vote for WD...
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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Dec 5 2008, 09:45 PM)
I not sure about it.
It comes in set.

shocking.gif  shocking.gif  shocking.gif
are you kidding??
the lappy I just bought it half year ago.
So fast gonna say bye to my HDD??
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New stuff these days are not made as good as last time. My wd and maxtor hdd, i think alredi 8 years lor... haha still running fine. rclxms.gif
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hey dudes...i juz bought a harddisk for my desktop....its an internal hardisk....unfortunately,there is not enough screw to secure the hardisk in the cpu..so i only screw only one screw per side for the hardisk. is it okay to do so?
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my 1T seagate just spoil, causing my pc unable to bootup if connected to the pc. just bought it 1 month ago
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Dec 6 2008, 11:24 AM)
my 1T seagate just spoil, causing my pc unable to bootup if connected to the pc. just bought it 1 month ago
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What PSU are you using?
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silverstone 600w, more than enough...

i even tested the hdd at other pc, all cannot bootup if connected the hdd
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im looking for a external hdd..160gb-250gb
any comment??
how much is the price now??

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Dec 6 2008, 09:00 AM)
New stuff these days are not made as good as last time. My wd and maxtor hdd, i think alredi 8 years lor... haha still running fine.  rclxms.gif
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grumble.gif grumble.gif
aiks,my HDD.....
QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 12:42 PM)
im looking for a external hdd..160gb-250gb
any comment??
how much is the price now??
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which you want??
2.5" or 3.5"
hmm.gif hmm.gif
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QUOTE(rainy~days @ Dec 6 2008, 11:24 AM)
my 1T seagate just spoil, causing my pc unable to bootup if connected to the pc. just bought it 1 month ago
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Seagate so easily spoil? this is very unusual ohmy.gif
Suggest you can try use an external hdd enclosure to test out.

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 6 2008, 02:45 PM)
Seagate so easily spoil? this is very unusual  ohmy.gif
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QUOTE(DragonMebius @ Dec 6 2008, 01:37 PM)
grumble.gif  grumble.gif
aiks,my HDD.....

which you want??
2.5" or 3.5"
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how bou 3.5'' one?
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QUOTE(bing5772 @ Dec 6 2008, 02:47 PM)
anybody?plz reply my question
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u go to the shop and hav some screw from them la
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 01:47 PM)
a lot ppl say la , maybe now the hdd' quality their produce not so good
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Recently a lot Seagate hdd broke down? what models ?
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 02:48 PM)
how bou 3.5'' one?
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if 3.5" then more cheaper but nid to use 1 power adapter come with the 3.5" hdd casing


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QUOTE(yehlai @ Dec 6 2008, 02:49 PM)
Recently a lot Seagate hdd broke down? what models ?
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i think is the hdd produced from jun or july to now , all got problem

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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 01:50 PM)
if 3.5" then more cheaper but nid to use 1 power adapter come with the 3.5" hdd casing


Added on December 6, 2008, 1:52 pm
i think is the hdd produced from jun or july to now , all got problem
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isit necessary need to use the power adapter??
n can i ask hor..
y i see ppl using ext hdd without using the power adapter one??
dey jus cucuk n use je.. hmm.gif
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 02:56 PM)
isit necessary need to use the power adapter??
n can i ask hor..
y i see ppl using ext hdd without using the power adapter one??
dey jus cucuk n use je..  hmm.gif
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if u buy 2.5" 1 then dunnid the power adapter , can direct plug to usb port liao
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 01:58 PM)
if u buy 2.5" 1 then dunnid the power adapter , can direct plug to usb port liao
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ic..
so which brand is preferrable??
and may i know how much the price roughly is?
btw..pc fair is coming soon..will it be ok if i buy during pc fair?
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 03:08 PM)
ic..
so which brand is preferrable??
and may i know how much the price roughly is?
btw..pc fair is coming soon..will it be ok if i buy during pc fair?
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buy in pc fair more cheaper , then u wanna to buy 2.5 " ??
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 02:16 PM)
buy in pc fair more cheaper , then u wanna to buy 2.5 " ??
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yeayea..2.5"
dowan so mafan rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 03:24 PM)
yeayea..2.5"
dowan so mafan  rolleyes.gif
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buy seagate 1 la, this : http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0569&hl=seagate
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hello all~


im about to buy 500gb harddisk or above but below 1tb tomorrow at pc fair ipoh(i heard its cheaper)..its 3.5" for sure~

would anyone tell me the good spec and good brand that wud not oftenly spoiled?

thx in advanced!
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WD 640G
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QUOTE(notystar_exe @ Dec 6 2008, 03:35 PM)
hello all~
im about to buy 500gb harddisk or above but below 1tb tomorrow at pc fair ipoh(i heard its cheaper)..its 3.5" for sure~

would anyone tell me the good spec and good brand that wud not oftenly spoiled?

thx in advanced!
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buy the WD caviar Black more better coz it perform better and have 5 years warranty

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QUOTE(foongchinboon @ Dec 6 2008, 02:41 PM)
WD 640G
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okie thx for ur recommendation~



QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 02:41 PM)
buy the WD caviar Black more better coz it perform better and have 5 years warranty
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caviar black?okie~

hav u used it before?
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My WD Passport can not detected. Already try on numbers of PC and laptop, also change the usb cable. Still can not detect. Why ar?
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an advice to give u all...
if u interested to buy a hdd now then better be fast.
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every manufacturing company cutting their cost nw


Added on December 6, 2008, 2:48 pm
QUOTE(mamba @ Dec 6 2008, 02:47 PM)
My WD Passport can not detected. Already try on numbers of PC and laptop, also change the usb cable. Still can not detect. Why ar?
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if u tried a lot another pc oso cant then u can take to warranty alr sad.gif

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QUOTE(notystar_exe @ Dec 6 2008, 02:35 PM)
hello all~
im about to buy 500gb harddisk or above but below 1tb tomorrow at pc fair ipoh(i heard its cheaper)..its 3.5" for sure~

would anyone tell me the good spec and good brand that wud not oftenly spoiled?

thx in advanced!
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may i noe y u prefer 3.5'' one than 2.5''??
cuz im goin to get one as well.. hmm.gif


Added on December 6, 2008, 2:59 pm
QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 02:30 PM)
wow..reli thx for the information..so good wif pricelist as well.. biggrin.gif
may i noe wats the difference between FreeAgent Go and USB 2.0 Passport Essential??


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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 01:58 PM)
if u buy 2.5" 1 then dunnid the power adapter , can direct plug to usb port liao
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sori..wanna ask regarding the power adapter rite..
actually how it works??
i mean hows the connection like??isit very mafan?

cuz i noticed some1 post dis very earlier on in dis forum saying:

Three biggest different between 2.5" HDD vs 3.5" HDD

1) Size itself of course
2) Being use externally, 2.5" can be powered by USB (1 x USB2.0 or 2 x USB1.1) while 3.5" will need extra power adapter.
3) 3.5" has larger capacity limitation compared to 2.5" and capacity / RM more value on the 3.5"

so...for 3.5'' rite..isit everytime wen v plug in to computer it has to be wif the power adapter as well?

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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 01:48 PM)
how bou 3.5'' one?
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 01:50 PM)
if 3.5" then more cheaper but nid to use 1 power adapter come with the 3.5" hdd casing


Added on December 6, 2008, 1:52 pm
i think is the hdd produced from jun or july to now , all got problem
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Add on for limhongwoon, 3.5" casing is much more bigger than 2.5",not just larger about 1",but more.
But 3.5" 500GB price = 2.5" 250GB price(almost,not really equal)
QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 02:16 PM)
buy in pc fair more cheaper , then u wanna to buy 2.5 " ??
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if you live in KL,you can prefer Lowyat.

QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 02:24 PM)
yeayea..2.5"
dowan so mafan  rolleyes.gif
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2.5" maximum 320GB available
3.5" maximum 1TB available

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(correct me i am wrong)
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ya , 2.5 " sure more expensive lol than the 3.5" 1 but more easy to take out or other else


Added on December 6, 2008, 6:59 pm
QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 03:56 PM)
may i noe y u prefer 3.5'' one than 2.5''??
cuz im goin to get one as well.. hmm.gif


Added on December 6, 2008, 2:59 pm

wow..reli thx for the information..so good wif pricelist as well.. biggrin.gif
may i noe wats the difference between FreeAgent Go and USB 2.0 Passport Essential??


Added on December 6, 2008, 3:16 pm

sori..wanna ask regarding the power adapter rite..
actually how it works??
i mean hows the connection like??isit very mafan?

cuz i noticed some1 post dis very earlier on in dis forum saying:

Three biggest different between 2.5" HDD vs 3.5" HDD

1) Size itself of course
2) Being use externally, 2.5" can be powered by USB (1 x USB2.0 or 2 x USB1.1) while 3.5" will need extra power adapter.
3) 3.5" has larger capacity limitation compared to 2.5" and capacity / RM more value on the 3.5"

so...for 3.5'' rite..isit everytime wen v plug in to computer it has to be wif the power adapter as well?
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FreeAgent Go 1 is more bigger , the 3.5 more mafan , when u take out then nid to find a socket to plug the power lol

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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 02:56 PM)
sori..wanna ask regarding the power adapter rite..
actually how it works??
i mean hows the connection like??isit very mafan?

cuz i noticed some1 post dis very earlier on in dis forum saying:

Three biggest different between 2.5" HDD vs 3.5" HDD

1) Size itself of course
2) Being use externally, 2.5" can be powered by USB (1 x USB2.0 or 2 x USB1.1) while 3.5" will need extra power adapter.
3) 3.5" has larger capacity limitation compared to 2.5" and capacity / RM more value on the 3.5"

so...for 3.5'' rite..isit everytime wen v plug in to computer it has to be wif the power adapter as well?
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im using WD Mybook 320g as storage for few months now. If you don't use it like 24/7 just unplug it. if you want to use, plug in it lor.... so easy mah.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(ericpires @ Dec 6 2008, 09:28 PM)
im using WD Mybook 320g as storage for few months now. If you don't use it like 24/7 just unplug it. if you want to use, plug in it lor.... so easy mah.. smile.gif
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i think he always bring the hdd go out lol
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 06:56 PM)
ya , 2.5 " sure more expensive lol than the 3.5" 1 but more easy to take out or other else


Added on December 6, 2008, 6:59 pm
FreeAgent Go  1 is more bigger , the 3.5 more mafan , when u take out then nid to find a socket to plug the power lol
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walao..socket ar.. sweat.gif
icic..jus the difference in size rite..


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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 08:46 PM)
i think he always bring the hdd go out lol
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yeayea..
i tink is more convenient wen wanna share things around.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 10:00 PM)
walao..socket ar..  sweat.gif
icic..jus the difference in size rite..


Added on December 6, 2008, 9:02 pm

yeayea..
i tink is more convenient wen wanna share things around..  smile.gif
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then now u wanna to buy which 1 ??
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thx everyone~~

hmm..i tink 2.5'' will be my final choice..
unless 3.5'' has more other advantages on 2.5'' (personally..i tink)
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 6 2008, 10:06 PM)
thx everyone~~

hmm..i tink 2.5'' will be my final choice..
unless 3.5'' has more other advantages on 2.5'' (personally..i tink)
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u wanna to buy seagate 1 or Western Digital ???
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Where to get the Caviar Black 500GB edition? Anyone here know? Thinking of using it as primary HDD for torrent .. nod.gif
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Dec 7 2008, 02:53 AM)
Where to get the Caviar Black 500GB edition? Anyone here know? Thinking of using it as primary HDD for torrent ..  nod.gif
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from lowyat? don't know if they have it in stock or if you have to order it
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Dec 7 2008, 03:03 AM)
from lowyat? don't know if they have it in stock or if you have to order it
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I'm already search in this forum but can't find the the 500GB version .. sad.gif

Anyway, what do you think about the new WD Caviar version, which one is suitable for torrent, black,blue, or green? hmm.gif

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but WD caviar black got 1 tb
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Dec 7 2008, 03:15 AM)
I'm already search in this forum but can't find the the 500GB version .. sad.gif

Anyway, what do you think about the new WD Caviar version, which one is suitable for torrent, black,blue, or green?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 7 2008, 10:01 AM)
but WD caviar black got 1 tb
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Caviar Black is for 24/7 like really the performance version for gamers and etc, green is like lower power and so-so performance, blue i think is normal.
Just wait a while more bro, i think 1tb hdd will drop somemore their price so don't buy the 500gb, go straight for 1tb, biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ericpires @ Dec 7 2008, 11:46 AM)
Caviar Black is for 24/7 like really the performance version for gamers and etc, green is like lower power and so-so performance, blue i think is normal.
Just wait a while more bro, i think 1tb hdd will drop somemore their price so don't buy the 500gb, go straight for 1tb,  biggrin.gif
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500GB only RM 100++ now lol
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 6 2008, 09:17 PM)
u wanna to buy seagate 1 or Western Digital ???
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actually which one is better?

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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 7 2008, 02:00 PM)
i tink seagate la..
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the new 1, so pretty lol
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the new 1, so pretty lol
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dis link tat u sent to me earlier on isit new one??
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0569&hl=seagate


Added on December 7, 2008, 1:12 pmmay i know wer i can see the latest price list for ext hdd in lowyat??
anyone??
thx in advance..

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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 7 2008, 01:02 PM)
dis link tat u sent to me earlier on isit new one??
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0569&hl=seagate


Added on December 7, 2008, 1:12 pmmay i know wer i can see the latest price list for ext hdd in lowyat??
anyone??
thx in advance..
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2.5inch seagate free agent Go 320gb is RM269 tongue.gif
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500GB only RM 100++ now lol
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QUOTE(Irzani @ Dec 7 2008, 08:32 PM)
Any clue where you find it?  brows.gif
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penang pc fair
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Dec 7 2008, 03:09 PM)
2.5inch seagate free agent Go 320gb is RM269 tongue.gif
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wat bou 160gb or 250gb?
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 7 2008, 11:54 PM)
wat bou 160gb or 250gb?
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i saw pc fair selling the new seagate 2.5" 250 gb hdd rm269 in penang
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Dec 7 2008, 03:09 PM)
2.5inch seagate free agent Go 320gb is RM269 tongue.gif
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160gb price anyone?
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 8 2008, 12:41 AM)
160gb price anyone?
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seagate vs WD
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 7 2008, 01:02 PM)
dis link tat u sent to me earlier on isit new one??
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...0569&hl=seagate


Added on December 7, 2008, 1:12 pmmay i know wer i can see the latest price list for ext hdd in lowyat??
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http://www.hardwarezone.com.my/priceguide/
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damn..saw seagate 3.5 500GB for RM190..less RM20 than the time i bought mine 2 weeks ago laugh.gif

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just want to know the WD green hdd is it 5400 rpm? read somewhere in tom's article..tried search in WD website cannot found any info about hdd rpm spec..any info?
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 7 2008, 12:01 PM)
500GB only RM 100++ now lol
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Then how bout 1tb hdd price??
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hi just wanna ask,

i want to buy an external hdd around RM250.


anyone can help where can i get a good, high performance and in that budget. if possible the shop around kl or selangor. smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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QUOTE(jessafreak @ Dec 8 2008, 02:49 PM)
hi just wanna ask,

i want to buy an external hdd around RM250.
anyone can help where can i get a good, high performance and in that budget. if possible the shop around kl or selangor.  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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QUOTE(beelee_billy @ Dec 7 2008, 11:41 PM)
160gb price anyone?
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pendrive 160gb 2.5inch ext usb envo RM185

QUOTE(jessafreak @ Dec 8 2008, 01:49 PM)
hi just wanna ask,

i want to buy an external hdd around RM250.
anyone can help where can i get a good, high performance and in that budget. if possible the shop around kl or selangor.  smile.gif  smile.gif  smile.gif
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seagate 320gb 2.5inch free agent go ext usb RM269. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(limhongwoon @ Dec 8 2008, 11:55 AM)
RM 380++
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http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=21501460

now is RM370
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i need an external drive...1TB...

Any comments on the Maxtor Jade for RM 385, WD Elements for RM405 and the Buffalo Drive Station for RM 435 ?

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still waiting 1TB to drop around 300
hope it will drop after pc fair haha
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QUOTE(Rishy @ Dec 8 2008, 08:26 PM)
i need an external drive...1TB...

Any comments on the Maxtor Jade for RM 385, WD Elements for RM405 and the Buffalo Drive Station for RM 435 ?
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you can get maxtor jade from all it for less than 385, elements is green powernot much ppl use and buffalo - don't buy lor

better get wd or seagate 1tb


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still waiting 1TB to drop around 300
hope it will drop after pc fair haha
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wahhh.... 300 meh? i dont think so... drop until 300 ler laugh.gif
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still waiting 1TB to drop around 300
hope it will drop after pc fair haha
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i am proudly 2 announce my seagate 1TB cost me 700 in july brows.gif and that was few weeks b4 the 1.5TB was announced cool2.gif proud 2 be an early birds anyway rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(skylinegtr34rule4life @ Dec 9 2008, 10:28 AM)
lolz @ you laggards laugh.gif

i am proudly 2 announce my seagate 1TB cost me 700 in july brows.gif and that was few weeks b4 the 1.5TB was announced cool2.gif proud 2 be an early birds anyway rclxms.gif
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lolz... 2TB come out alredi loh... many still playing the `waiting game` for price drop.. i think i will get 1TB soon drool.gif
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QUOTE(yangxi @ Dec 8 2008, 08:35 PM)
i mean the WD carviar Black 1 TB
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how much does this cost in lowyat?
and is it worth buying?

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QUOTE(isAb3lle @ Dec 10 2008, 01:02 AM)
WD Scorpio® Blue™
WD5000BEVT
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http://www.wdc.com/en/products/products.asp?driveid=506

how much does this cost in lowyat?
and is it worth buying?
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just bought WD 640 HD and my vista only detect 596GHZ available for use only which mean i lost 44ghz ???? is this normal?

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just bought WD 640 HD and my vista only detect 596GHZ available for use only which mean i lost 44ghz ???? is this normal?
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Its normal... my seagate 1tb hdd... only detects 931gb. tongue.gif
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Its normal... my seagate 1tb hdd... only detects 931gb.  tongue.gif
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guys, i've got a question here...

i've notice a lil jumper next to the SATA connector n it states 'limit to 1.5Gs'

wat happens if i take it out? improve performance? any side effects?

a bit clueless bout tis, i tot since the PATA era the jumper's purpose is only for slave/master function... doh.gif

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QUOTE(Sib @ Dec 31 2008, 12:02 AM)
guys, i've got a question here...

i've notice a lil jumper next to the SATA connector n it states 'limit to 1.5Gs'

wat happens if i take it out? improve performance? any side effects?

a bit clueless bout tis, i tot since the PATA era the jumper's purpose is only for slave/master function... doh.gif
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If im not wrong, the jumper its for SATA1 (compatibility wise).. as some motherboard can't work properly by using SATA2 as native.

Cheers and Happy New Year!.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(TomatomanzSeedlezz @ Dec 31 2008, 12:09 AM)
If im not wrong, the jumper its for SATA1 (compatibility wise).. as some motherboard can't work properly by using SATA2 as native.

Cheers and Happy New Year!..  biggrin.gif
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meaning i shud actually pull out the jumper in sake of better performance? hmm.gif
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dont simply pull out until u know for sure wat the jumper is there for....

check ur manufacturers website for the jumper settings. if it really is at the 1.5gbps slots... then yeah pull it out if ur mobo is compatible with sata 2.

if not...best to just leave it there.
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2nd hand seagate 250Gb = rm 100
worth?
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Buffalo got turbo USB, a bit faster from a review I read by tech&u
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i just bought a 1TB seagate 32mb .. btw.. how to check the cache buffer size? need software? or can i check from the product id or something?..
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Buffalo got turbo USB, a bit faster from a review I read by tech&u
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better go for esata
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WD 640GB vs Seagate 750GB...
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Dec 31 2008, 02:52 PM)
WD 640GB vs Seagate 750GB...
which on reign??
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reign ?? i prefer seagate
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can u give me a specific reason??
what's wrong with reign??typo?
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can u give me a specific reason??
what's wrong with reign??typo?
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wad is reign ??? seagate got 5 year warranty but the WD oni 3 year warranty
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so seagate is d best??
in term of performance...
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wad is reign ??? seagate got 5 year warranty but the WD oni 3 year warranty
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Now still got 5 years meh?.. i thought is 3 years only now for seagate..

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Performance wise I dont know, but I prefer WD.

Maybe u should see tomshardware hdd charts
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But Wd dangerous lol , maybe they will close a lot of their factory in malaysia , then later dunno go where to RMA
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Seagate starting from next year drop to 3 years warranty. Seagate 750gb better la, disk space and performance
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go to buy it faster , tomorow is next year liao, happy new year
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is it true when u do raidO n paritition it will be slower, can any one running raid o can commend.

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if u got two WD 640gb under Raid 0 it will be more faster
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if u got two WD 640gb under Raid 0 it will be more faster
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u mean run some hdd under Raid 0 will be slower , right ??

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u mean run some hdd under Raid 0 will be slower , right ??
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I am trying to say, when you run RAID O n at the same time you do partition on that same RAID O, can the raid o run slower than raid o without partition.

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i did that....had 2*320mb in RAID 0. had 3 paritions...

still fast.
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i tot the WD caviar green edition is slower than seagate 32mb...

unless u go for WD caviar black~~ with 5 yrs warranty
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i did that....had 2*320mb in RAID 0. had 3 paritions...

still fast.
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What benchmark did you get from hd tune pro, my benchmark very low with one partition, benchmark around average 160m/b/sec for read, maximum 171m/b/sec, before that running on single hd without raid benchmark aroud 105m/b/sec for read max. Can i know your hd raid benchmark, my pc spec at my signature.
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QUOTE(snoopyguy @ Dec 31 2008, 11:31 PM)
i tot the WD caviar green  edition is slower than seagate 32mb...

unless u go for WD caviar black~~ with 5 yrs warranty
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WD Caviar Green has 32mb Buffer too.
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how much is 1TB WD Caviar black now and which shop selling it?
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how much is 1TB WD Caviar black now and which shop selling it?
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RM 400++ robyncom in imbi plaza got
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for 1 TB...i dont know what to put in there...
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Can some1 explain what's the difference between these two?

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 1-TB Hard Drive ST31000340AS
Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 SATA 3Gb/s 1-TB Hard Drive ST31000333AS

...and which one is better? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(azlanxp @ Jan 1 2009, 10:27 PM)
for 1 TB...i dont know what to put in there...
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QUOTE(jasonkwk @ Jan 2 2009, 12:12 AM)
yeah,make sure ur monitor is at least 22'' to enjoy HD movies if not you are wasting yr  HDD space.
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Oh yeah, forgot to mention that ..
Btw, I have almost 70gb of HD movies .. (Still increasing)
Soon it cannot really satisfy me (1TB) becoz I still have others need to keep ..
Lots of things to backup
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QUOTE(Dickong @ Dec 31 2008, 11:03 PM)
What benchmark did you get from hd tune pro, my benchmark very low with one partition, benchmark around average 160m/b/sec for read, maximum 171m/b/sec, before that running on single hd without raid benchmark aroud 105m/b/sec for read max. Can i know your hd raid benchmark, my pc spec at my signature.
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cant remember the benchmark.....and i used HD Tach....

but i do remember it was quite low. but the low benchmark is a common issue with 680i chipset mobos.

but in terms of loading times (windows games etc etc) it was significantly faster than single hdd.
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My HD tach burst read is crazy becos i am getting 3500+ mark.




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what happen if we store around 1TB at our hd then the hard disk damage...
when my 200GB damage a month ago...have some data forgot to backup..
so sad... sad.gif
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sweat...
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seller said got prob...anyone?
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 2 2009, 02:48 PM)
sweat...
750GB suddenly no stock...
seller said got prob...anyone?
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Just go for 1TB hdd then brows.gif
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pricey dude...
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tomorow will go LYP again and buy...sigh...
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My friend wants to sell me hitachi 500Gb for 190
Is it expensive? or should I go for maxtor,seagate,or WD 1 TB?
Enlighten me please. My 120Gb seagate IDE is dying
Load my vista so slow sad.gif
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QUOTE(azrinarizz @ Jan 2 2009, 06:43 PM)
My friend wants to sell me hitachi 500Gb for 190
Is it expensive? or should I go for maxtor,seagate,or WD 1 TB?
Enlighten me please. My 120Gb seagate IDE is dying
Load my vista so slow sad.gif
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Buy a new hdd ler... u also donor the condition of ur friends hdd...but its up 2 u brows.gif
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Buy a new hdd ler... u also donor the condition of ur friends hdd...but its up 2 u  brows.gif
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Its brand new from shop
He ask me to go to the shop because he knows the owner
So any idea? laugh.gif
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Its brand new from shop
He ask me to go to the shop because he knows the owner
So any idea?  laugh.gif
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ask him to giv eu the receipt too loh. RM190 for 500gb really dirt cheap liao ler.
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 3 2009, 12:18 AM)
ask him to giv eu the receipt too loh. RM190 for 500gb really dirt cheap liao ler.
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I will take note of that
But any of you guys face problem with hitachi brand blink.gif
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Jan 3 2009, 01:18 AM)
ask him to giv eu the receipt too loh. RM190 for 500gb really dirt cheap liao ler.
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I suggest u get a new one ..

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QUOTE(sHaKz_eXoDus @ Jan 3 2009, 11:08 AM)
I suggest u get a new one ..
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azrinarizz said it is new one. tongue.gif btwm hitachi brand 2.5inch hdd is quite reliable, i got sell it a lot at my ex company.
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so anyone, whats d cheapest price for WD 640GB @LYP?
gonna buy it today..
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 11:33 AM)
so anyone, whats d cheapest price for WD 640GB @LYP?
gonna buy it today..
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While you are on LYP, can you please look whether there's any WD Caviar Black 500GB/750GB on the brochure you get while surveying .. tongue.gif~

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what's so great bout WDC Black bro?
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post Jan 3 2009, 12:59 PM

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yeah...what so great about it? wanted to know oso.
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normal WD should do great aite??
dont like d green power thingy...
just normal...
at 1st wanted to but 750GB yesterday with pikacu...
but sadly no stock...
then i asked one of the seller y no stock...
and they answered that 750GB got so many RMA...sigh..
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post Jan 3 2009, 01:03 PM

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i'm using normal WD hdd so far still working great...
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dats y i wonder what so great bout the black series?
is it faster??
same 16mb??
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 01:04 PM)
dats y i wonder what so great bout the black series?
is it faster??
same 16mb??
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 02:04 PM)
dats y i wonder what so great bout the black series?
is it faster??
same 16mb??
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32mb is faster than 16mb because of the cache buffer ..
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 01:04 PM)
dats y i wonder what so great bout the black series?
is it faster??
same 16mb??
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32 MB and one of the comparison can be seen here ..

Tom’s Winter 2008 Hard Drive Guide : Buying The Perfect Hard Drive brows.gif
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It depends on your preference, i just bought a WD 1 TB Green Caviar 32mb Cache @ Rm350 at Lowyat, very happy with it since is just for external hard disk for storing multimedia stuffs no fast spin required for me, anyway just invest in a good external enclosure. And also the new Green Caviar has 3 platters(333 GB each) compare to 4 for the last model(250 GB each), and also a 32 mb cache. Anyway happy with what i bought.



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QUOTE(december88 @ Jan 3 2009, 02:52 PM)
It depends on your preference, i just bought a WD 1 TB Green Caviar 32mb Cache @ Rm350 at Lowyat, very happy with it since is just for external hard disk for storing multimedia stuffs no fast spin required for me, anyway just invest in a good external enclosure. And also the new Green Caviar has 3 platters(333 GB each) compare to 4 for the last model(250 GB each), and also a 32 mb cache. Anyway happy with what i bought.
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Lowyat which part?
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i bought 640GB WD Blue...hehehe
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 08:06 PM)
i bought 640GB WD Blue...hehehe
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got 1TB blue 1 ??
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QUOTE(tech_frix @ Jan 3 2009, 11:31 PM)
also got but hdd limited stock wor...
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1 TB Black got ?
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black not sure la...
cuz i ask this fugly ah so @Czone and straight away scold me...
i was like WTF..?

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