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7200.11 stands for Seagate's 11th Generation of their Barracuda HDD series

7200 refers to 7200rpm and 11th Generation is 250GB per platter. It has both 16MB and 32MB cache model. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Frankly speaking, from my point of view, only 2 big HDD manufacturers now left dominating in the market where the others such as Quantum, Maxtor, etc. have been taken over by them. Samsung has pretty good reputation in the HDD market as well, but not as popular as Seagate and Western Digital do. The popularity which I mean known by every level of users but not only enthusiast.

We can't simply take complaints or RMA rate as reference for the company's performance. The reason there is a high rate because a lot of people using it. How will we know the failure rate from a manufacturer which less sell their product thus less people been using? Make sense, isn't? Furthermore, it is the nature of a human to complain rather than compliment on good stuffs. We hardly read up good feedback, simply because no one will bother if it is good and don't create any trouble

Why not you just give them a call? It is just as easy as 1 2 3

LoL... how you define fast on 32MB compared with 16MB? Can you tell the different?

Samsung's HDD carry 3 years warranty. For warranty claim within the first year of purchase, the shop will provide free service. However, for 2nd year and above will be charged service charge for it if you requested them to RMA for you. You can do it yourself by sending it directly to the Samsung manufacturer. Then of course you'll need to fill in your HDD and warranty details online before you can proceed

Oops... sorry as I had cut your queue for re-opening a new thread for it

Well, I'm still waiting for SSD to be more mature in the market before I invest for one unit of it as my starter

Yeah, HDD's data are very crucial and easily cause heavy lost once it's gone due to harddisk failure. Not to mention it's pricey to have backup if the size is very large . That's why I always spread and share my collection of HD movies, etc. In case gone *touchwood*, I can still try to leech it back from them . One of my way to save cost on creating virtual backup

64GB? If purely ONLY operating system should be more than enough. Says if includes software suits such as MS Office, Adobe Suits, etc. it will depends on what you require. I spare myself 100GB for OS and the software suits which is pretty enough for me. Anyway, I did thought of getting a SSD purely for my OS and software suits

LOL, do you know that your current WD My Book Essential is using the same HDD as the one in your desktop?

Yeah, you're right. The different just the extra build being external. Once again, it depends on what you need and how you want it to be . For me, if I need not travel around with load of data, I would rather make it inside the case. Simple reason, I don't want another power adapter on my socket

Three biggest different between 2.5" HDD vs 3.5" HDD

1) Size itself of course
2) Being use externally, 2.5" can be powered by USB (1 x USB2.0 or 2 x USB1.1) while 3.5" will need extra power adapter.
3) 3.5" has larger capacity limitation compared to 2.5" and capacity / RM more value on the 3.5"

Hope it help

Come to think of it... since HDD's price nowdays at rock bottom... should I get myself another Seagate 7200.11 32MB 500GB for trying out RAID-0?

Anyone here running on RAID-0? It is really a huge performance leap than being single?

I'm still thinking if I should get another 500GB to RAID it with my current one

Thanks a lot for your experience input Bro mADmAN

Well, I read that somehow RAID-0 improve our performance, but the performance is only significantly noticeable on NFS (Network File System) and in some cases it could actually degrade the performance on us as normal user. It's almost similar like the case for AHCI (Advanced Host Controller Interface) and NCQ (Native Command Queuing). So I was wondering how fast we can really benefit from it in our normal daily usage?

HDD tends to die sooner? Aiks...

Dudes... google up... put some effort in finding information...

For operating systems, it recognize 1 Kilobytes = 1,024 bytes; 1 Megabyte = 1,024 Kilobytes; 1 Gigabytes = 1,024 Megabytes.

For manufacturer, it recognize 1 Kilobytes = 1,000 bytes; 1 Megabyte = 1,000 Kilobytes; 1 Gigabytes = 1,000 Megabytes.

Thus manufacturer's 1 Terabytes = 1,000,000,000,000 bytes

while

in operating system become: 1,000,000,000,000 / (1,024 x 3) = 931GB

Make sense now? It has been explained over and over in this forum

P/S: Next don't ask why the manufacturer consume the 24 thingy, email their customer care if you curious enough.

Isn't that Western Digital also providing such similar anti-shock packaging when they send back a HDD to customer after RMA?

I did not do any RMA before *touchwood * but I remember once I bought a 2nd hand HDD from a forumer and he passed to me inside a Western Digital RMA packaging like the one mADmAN posted

Most probably I guess it is . They'll provide such anti-shock packaging while couriering it to your place if you deal directly with them. Beside the need to save cost, need to be environment friendly as well

Sigh, finally my Seagate 7200.11 500GB 32MB HDD is acting up on me. During bootup will sometime failed to initiate the HDD or stopped half-way during bootup

I'm afraid that my HDD will freeze in no time. Gonna find a replacement now to save my data else all gone.

Long time didn't been in this thread thou I'm the one started it up.

BTW, what's the current performance (not extreme high performance such as SDD or Raptor, etc. pls ) HDD being available? I'm tired and scared of Seagate and thinking to get internal WD or Samsung now.

Looking at the 1TB, it seems like many seeking for the Samsung's rather than WD Caviar Black? What's the different between Samsung's F1, F2 and F3?

Yeah, I'm aware of the bricking issue when it 1st brought up. I already emailed Seagate by then and they already verified that my unit is not with the batches that have problems. Thus, they reluctant to let me flash my firmware.

Now I'm wondering if the issue I'm having is due to power supply or the HDD dying

Yeah, 5 years ago Seagate haven't release 7200.11

SD1A is the newer firmware than SD15 which pro-claimed carries the problem. Anyway, it'll still best for you to contact Seagate providing them all the necessary information to verify the HDD for you

Samsung's F3 7,200rpm really that powerful? I'm considering between WD Black or Samsung F1/F3.

Anyone to suggest which should I aim for the better one?