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This post has been edited by KVReninem: May 10 2013, 11:46 PM

does this mean the previous thread cannot be added into?

there is a wealth of information there, it would be a shame if it disappears from the front page........can it be pinned?

no limmeuu...will compile it and merge with this
too bz ..unless u offer to help to compile too.
we work together; not solo guide.



alot to cover.

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Jan 30 2008, 11:15 AM

agreed upon, but i believe a link to the first thread would be more relevant. A hundred over pages there, with almost half of it pure conversational. We just bulk it up, and edit on the first posts of this with the informations that we can dig out from the first thread and compile it as time past. Too many redundant questions

mayb put some info on each state or uni/college? =D

who know well about those study loans provided by bank?
is it the interest damn high?
and,any nice way to get scholarship?
i really hope can continue my school journey at australia after SPM =)
dont know weither is posible or not.

This post has been edited by EnSky: Jan 30 2008, 03:31 PM

How long do topics stay until they are purged, if... at all?

I guess a very long time considering 2 years-old topic were revived before.

uhm ? wat r u saying?

*suggestions
list down tips to study in australia at the first page
list down lyn's member who is studying at OZ and sort them by universities

KVReninem , i will help you on compiling some of the guide this coming weekend. And like some have mentioned, it's kinda difficult to find some useful information when casual chatting is in between them. It would be better if some FAQ on Studying in Australia which will benefit the rest rather than scroll through 125 pages.

We've stopped deleting topics since 2 years ago.

YES u need IELTS unless u did SAM (correct me if im wrong )

ya i get it
alot work

icic..yes boss

yes u better get ielts before apply



This post has been edited by KVReninem: Jan 30 2008, 10:31 PM

Hi,
As posted on that thread, I think it would better if we split up the thread (v1) into few portion and gathers relevant data from it.

For example:-

Page 1-25(me)
Page 26-50 (you) and so on..

I could help you about 75pages (and could start by tonight).

anyone wanna join the boat ?
split job make a work-out guide for newbie

from moderator

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Added on January 30, 2008, 10:35 pmlist down lyn member in studying in aus; maybe just which states they are in will be better

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Jan 30 2008, 10:35 PM

Yeah,you'll need it unless you take SAM.If not,you have to take the test.

I find IDP is quite useless.They didnt help me to find accommodation at all.

I think city would be better like:

Cheesenium,UNSW,Sydney

It's because most people dont know states in aus very well.Group them up according to cities.

Just my 2 cents.

I don't profess to be an expert in this area, but I'm willing to volunteer in providing information/guides on the following:
Sydney, NSW
Renting in Sydney
Living in Sydney (all the essentials like getting around, shopping for essentials, banking, telecommunication, internet connection, etc.)
Working in Sydney

University of New South Wales (UNSW)
Engineering @ UNSW
Australian School of Business @ UNSW
Medicine @ UNSW
UNSW Foundation Year

We'll need some other volunteers from Sydney University, Macquarie, UTS and some regional institutions like UWS and Wollongong.

Off the top of my head, I think the following active LYNs here could contribute towards this (if I miss out anyone, just let me know):
blaxez, pangping1510, jae, nyprinz83

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Added on January 30, 2008, 10:50 pmHow about both city AND state? Saves the confusion.


This post has been edited by chris_c28: Jan 30 2008, 10:50 PM

okok; i think i`ll need RBR to clean up our pre posting before full guide is up,gonna start work edi

IDP was pretty helpful in the beginning. But after helping me to apply for UniSA and receiving my CoE, they totally ignored my emails after that. =/

This post has been edited by snowcandy: Jan 30 2008, 10:55 PM

Yeah,city and state could work too.

Anyway,I think i need some help in renting in Sydney.I still have no permenant accommodation yet.The colleges didnt reply me at all.Is there anything i can do while im in malaysia,other than sending the temporary accommodation form to ISS?

Yeah,thats the problem.Like that,i also can do it myself lah.Applying isnt the hardest part.

You might want to consider ringing the colleges personally to check on your application status, but afaik, if you don't get it by now, chances of you securing a place there is pretty slim.

If private accomodation is in your list, then try looking around these 2 websites: gumtree & domain.au
You'd be able to find whole heaps of ads there posting on rooms or units for rent, I reckon this is the best you can do while you're in Malaysia.

p/s: 1 suggestion while browsing through those websites, keep a map in hand, it comes pretty handy especially when you are not familiar with the names of the suburbs.

This post has been edited by jae: Jan 30 2008, 11:41 PM

I have send an email to them and they just say applicants will be notified if they are accepted.I guess i have no chance to stay there.

I have a rough idea where to stay.Kingsford or something is the best since it's the closest with my faculty.Randwrick is ok too.

If that is the case, then it's quite unlikely you will get a place there for this semester if you still haven't receive any notification from them yet.
Kingsford, Randwick and Kensington are the nearest suburbs around uni, but be prepared to pay a higher rent for rooms in these suburbs.
City area is a good alternative too if you don't mind traveling about 15-20minutes by bus to uni everyday.

Oh before I reply,

Degree: Bachelor of Business (Graduated in 2006)
Uni: University of Technology Sydney
City: Sydney
State: New South Wales
Country: Australia-lah



Kingsford is actually RIGHT next to the UNSW campus and its a heaven for international Uni students coming from Hong Kong, China, Taiwan, Malaysia and Indonesia.

The business district of the Kingsford surburb has a lot of Asian grocery stores (Japanese owned) and eateries (mostly Indonesian-Chinese owned) and if you're on campus hostel stay you are lucky that you are able to procure items to cook or to eat.

Distance of Kingsford from the city centre is roughly 15-20 minutes by bus ride (their public transportation is much much more better than M'sian ones.

Randwick however is a bit farther than Kingsford so you got to map out a transport route to get your way to Uni.

Can i actually walk from Randwrick to the uni?how long does it take to walk?

I think it's better to walk since i could save some money on transportation.

kay, gonna apply for anu melb, sydney and unsw for mech eng for july 08 intake through idp. and if any of you know any other better uni for mech eng please let me know ya, gonna apply in march 7,dont have to pay application fees on that day apparently XD

just wanna say thanks for patiently answering my questions ya

UNSW is a pretty good choice for engineering.They have the largest engineering faculty in Aus and that means they have better facilities and teaching resource for engineering compare to other uni.

It's just my 2 cents.Do correct me if im wrong.

^^ Nope, you're absolutely right on that. And NOT only Mech Eng, Architecture Degree is also reknowned in UNSW.

On walking from Randwick, it should be fine as long as you stay on the southern side of Randwick as it faces the northern part of UNSW.

Kingsford should be south of UNSW if I remembered correctly. There is also another surburb, Kensington which is on the western side of UNSW.

Yes you can, you'll save up the effort to climb through flight of stairs if your classes are spread across the upper campus. But since you're in engineering, I would doubt so as most of your classes will mostly in the lower campus.

hehe i wanna contribute some too
i've actually gathered a few useful websites from the previous thread

purchase 2nd hand textbooks.
http://www.textbookexchange.com.au

Compare prices from Australia's
online retailers of computer parts.
http://www.pricespy.com.au/

this is where you can search for broadband services at oz
http://bc.whirlpool.net.au/

shows a list of good/bad computer shops at Australia
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=131657

stationaries are expensive there,see the website below for reference
http://www.officeworks.com.au

*credits to those who contributed these sites in previous thread
and i think quite alot of lyn members use tpg broadband
http://www.tpg.com.au/

hmm....well isnt monash the best engineering school??? it was voted so a couple of years ago.....

im a monash student btw....

n yea....bout internet....TPG boradband offeres the best value.....ADSL2+ (bout 12mbps if im not mistaken) with 140Gb download limit (if im not mistaken) at $80.....share with a couple of friends....very the worth it.....

whoops...im looking forward to be part o the thread too....i did contributed a minute bit on the prev thread.....

Incubus is coming down next month

hey hey.. i'll help, just tell me from where to where

Awww nuts. Gone for just one day and this happens?

I suggest we make some ground rules for people wanting to use this thread. Questions are no doubt welcome, but they must me logical and only after they have done their homework. I suggest some rules on the front page. I'd contribute some:

1)At least use proper spelling and capitalisation, even if your English is not at a standard you want it to be. No shortform lik dis. U wan help, u ask 4 help prply. Seriously, there is no reason to use shortform. You have a nice ASCII keyboard, not a keypad, and heres reason #1 to use Firefox: it comes with a built in spell checker.

2)Read the front page first! I suggest changing the sub-heading to "Read rules on first page" from "coming, in, be Australia...". (On the sidelines, I'd try to help out this weekend. No easy through; Chinese New Year coming up)

3)Do your homework. Don't come up to this thread and ask: how much does it cost to go to Australia. Australia is a very big place. You'd probably be able to live on $10/day in the middle of nowhere, but that cant get a decent meal in Sydney. Drill down to at least a specific city. As a general rule of thumb, all universities(worth our money) would have a page outlining the general costs of living. They tend to err on the high side, but use it as a guide.

4)Drop your sifu mentality. None of us here are experts. All we have behind our screen names is the privilege living in Australia for an extended period of time. Use us as a rough guide, not a hard set of rules.

5)Scholarships. Everyone wants one. Few of us have one. This forum is not to spoon feed you what scholarships there are. All universities have a link for that. Look for yourselves. We will not anwser questions like "im thinkin of takin engineering in UQ could anyone give me a reference abt any scholarships?" (even ignoring the language). We will however, try our best to anwser something like "The Sony Multimedia foundation scholarship in QUT: what are my chances?"

I think a quote from Limeuu is in order here:


6)Some of us in this forum are frank and direct. We will give you the real deal, not sugarcoated. If you can't handle it, go somewhere else. We are here to help, not "mollycoodle" (Clinton's words in his 92 campaign) anyone.

7)Cant understand what we're saying? Befuddled over the word you just saw? Here's a google trick: type "define: Befuddled" (or whatever word you don't understand, without the quote marks) into google. (You'll be surprised how many people don't know, or are just too plain lazy, to use this feature.)

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On another issue, I'd suggest grouping where we are by cities. Say:

Brisbane
Haya (Bachlelor of something, Queensland University of Technology)

Perth
onelove89 (Some course, some university)
(Hope you don't mind onelove89 )

And for those who are not in currently present in Australia, but know a bit about it:
Omnipresent
Limeuu

This should make it easier for people to ask us about a specific university and/or course.

I know this sounds daft, but can we throw in a map of Australia, preferably Asia-Pacific, to show some people where Australia is, and where is it in relation to Malaysia? Don't laugh: you know our education system has failed when people ask me "when is it winter in Bangkok?" and think they can "hop step jump to the UK in 3 hrs from Australia". I knew we should have kept Geography as a compulsory until Form 5.............................

Also, maybe an explanation on the different plug system of Australia may be in order. Feel free to use my explanation at the Studying In New Zealand thread.

Anything I missed?

This post has been edited by haya: Jan 31 2008, 08:29 AM

Not very sure but UNSW was the best in engineering for past few years till Melbourne Uni come and trash it last year.

It's second best now.

Still,rankings still doesnt matters much.What matters is you yourself,not the university.From what i heard,going to a good uni is just to have a little bit of head start in your career.No point going to MIT to slack and get kick out.

That's not the way to see it. The rankings fluctuate from year to year because of various factors, the main thing being the number of research papers published, amount of research funding gained, etc. UNSW is still a heavyweight in Engineering education here and still attracts some of the best talents in this area. It has an excellent reputation in the industry.

This post has been edited by chris_c28: Jan 31 2008, 11:05 AM

Melb Uni's new engineering program structure ('The Melbourne Model') which they're implementing from this year onwards has caused quite a few raised eyebrows. I doubt they'll be voted top engineering school for the next few years.

The Melbourne Model was one of the reasons that put me off,other than cost which is 20% more than UNSW.I dont want to study biology or economics in uni.

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Added on January 31, 2008, 11:35 amI think i need some tips in arranging timetable.I still cant get it right till now.

Arrgh!!!

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jan 31 2008, 11:35 AM

The daunting task....
I usually use a piece of paper or a spreadsheet program to draw up the time columns and then use http://www.timetable.unsw.edu.au to view the times for subjects and mark them accordingly.
Alternatively open two tabs, one with the blank timetable and another with the enrolment tab and then try to fit in the times.
Whatever you do, do not ever use Auto Timetable. The computer-generated random allocation system will give you really poor scheduling.

The auto timetable doesnt work at all for me.

Anyway,managed to arrange a time table without any clash and wasted 3 pieces of paper.It's really a daunting task.

Oh, poor you. It does work for me but. Hope your timetable isn't so tiresome.

The timetable for Period 1 is ok,im just worry about the Period 2 one.It's gonna be even daunting to arrange it.

Only tuesday gonna be a bit tiring.Classes are quite long on that day.Dunno why they put all the surveying classes together.Some more one lecture take 4 hours.In the end,lunch on 4 o'clock.

This post has been edited by Cheesenium: Jan 31 2008, 01:14 PM

Melbourne Model is designed so students have diversity in their knowledge.
They are trying to implement the US education format in australia and it is believed that several universities will follow suit.

i heard about the expensive course fees for the melbourne model but i cannot be too sure of it.

so bottom line is
1. if u want a more diverse field of study, then melbourne model is the way to go
2. if u are not interested in other fields of studies then look elsewhere.

and just so u know if you are planning to take engineering in melbourne uni, i believe there is still an option where u dont have to take the melbourne model and you just need to sign up for its traditional 4 years course structure.

The course fees for the Melb Model is approx AUD28000. That's a crazy amount of money.

The fees increase a lot each year.3-4k if im not wrong while UNSW is about 2k each year.

It's not, considering you get a postgraduate degree out of it. An equivalent undergraduate + Masters course will cost approximately the same.

Hmm add realestate.com.au as another site to use for properties.

How about a brief introduction to what studying in Aus is all about, the tech unis, Go8, culture etc.

ermm my course fees this year is 13294 or was it 13924.. per semester .increase by approximately 1000 aud.every year uni can increase their course fees up till 10% if im not mistaken.
whats the going rate for engineering at other uni's?

This post has been edited by Cruzer: Jan 31 2008, 03:09 PM

Here is the list of tuition fees in Australia Universities for year 2008:

For Engineering courses only (in AUD$)

ANU 22800
Melbourne 27850
Sydney 24720
UNSW 24960
UQ 22750
Monash 25800
Adelaide 20600
UWA 23000
UniSA 19050
Tasmania 16000

Apparently Melbourne is significantly higher than other universities, higher than UNSW for about 15% and higher than the average for about 25%. The cheapest option will be Tasmania. haha

anybody studying ee engineering in uwa/

Internode's also quite popular

about accomodation for UNSW students:

realestate.com.au is the best site to look out for houses..cuz they have the biggest database..getting the house you want can be very competitive at times..and point system is implemented to determine who will get the house..

about the suburbs..it depends on a few factors:

price: randwick houses are more expensive than in kingsford, this is because it is nearer to supermarkets-namely coles/woolies..

so its important to have a good look at the campus map, and to know where would be the place you would have your classes..and it is better to enrol in classes where the venue are nearby..if not you would have to climb the !@#$%^&* university walk/basser steps (can be useful to slim down, lol)..

if you dont mind travelling, kingsford is ok..though the security is not as good as in randwick..and both kingsford and randwick have asian stores to get asian foodstuff..maroubra junction can be a very nice place to live in too..its pretty convenient over there..just like randwick..just that you will need to dip a blue travel ten which costs $1.36 (around there) to get to uni by bus..

about engineering courses:

unsw engineering just got ranked first (if you really want to talk about ranking) on 2008 gooduniversity guide..but unsw has been famous for its engineering..so if you like sydney..unsw is a good place to do engineering..

to other forumers: i can give advice on anything you would like to know about jpa scholarship-on whats covered/whats not/bonds and stuff..

all in all i think aus is a nice place! =)

Thats a harsh thing to say. Learning breadth subjects will enable a student to think wider. Engineering is about creativity in designing, solving problems..etc and I think learning something out of engineering will HELP the students design something which is more OUT OF THE BOX. In time, I do think the Melbourne Model is quite an effective move. Undergraduate studies lets a student choose a pathway and postgraduate enables specialization.

Hmmm... now only i realised that there are so many Malaysians LYN forumer in Sydney.I thought i was one of those few oddball who dont want to go to Melbourne.

Wahh!! version 2 already...
i just arrive at melbourne just 2 days ago and i'm already missing home
i feel so lonely here and there's really nothing to do here in australia..any recommendations???

and when is trinity students coming over from malaysia?

This post has been edited by HyeoshinX: Feb 1 2008, 06:12 PM

Go explore! Walk down Swanston Street to the city or hop on a tram(make sure you have a Metcard) Go to Melb Central, get some krispy kremes....

Or, you could go explore Melbourne Uni (not recommended as you *might* get lost without a guide)

But, it ain't hard to get lost in Melbourne City as everything is in square, rectangular boxes. Most of the roads are parallel.

this is exactly the reason why sometimes i get lost in the city. hahaha

This post has been edited by Cruzer: Feb 1 2008, 07:26 PM

Aw, missing home already?? I cant wait to fly to Sydney! Start making new friends, and explore the place. That's pretty much you can do for now.

Me too.Also to use their superior internet connection.

Anyway,still wanna go O-Week together?Is there anyone else going to UNSW's O-week?

I know im gonna miss home when im there.

Yeh, we'll go to O-week together. I have some other friends going too but as for LYN, chris_c28, you and me (that's pretty sad ), plus chris isn't a first year.

Im one man show there.None of my friends are going to UNSW.So far,i only know you,chris and another friend of mine who is doing 2nd year engineering.

well. i've already check the uni. quite nice enviroment. and very big campus. i havent really checked the whole city. too big but i have 2 weeks to do it..so lepak la~~

You have the semester, no worries. Take some pictures of your uni and show us a bit of Melbourne while you're at it.

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Added on February 1, 2008, 8:38 pmSo, I'm pretty much the only girl from the forum huh? O-week will be heaps fun, with freebies, gigs and games! When is your faculty welcoming day?

This post has been edited by kamagotchi: Feb 1 2008, 08:38 PM

Thats how I felt too when I was there all by myself in 2002. But I attended classes, established a routine and made friends along the way. After that, begone homesickness.

Take a walk around Melbourne city, keep yourself occupied with Uni preparations at least this will reduce the amount of thoughts that you have on home.

Dunno.Couldnt find any information on that.

Still cant get my Unimail,the webpage keep on showing me 401 Unauthorised.Any idea whats wrong?

Don't worry mate, I was all alone when I went to Sydney last year too, you will get to know more friends soon. AFAIK, chris, pangping, blaxed and myself are the very few in UNSW here in LYN(I'm talking about the returning students), of course the list will now expand with you and kamagotchi joining in.

welcome to melbourne mate!

I read something about getting another unipass from IT Desk, I guess it won't be the same with the password we login to enrol in myUNSW. Then, we can access our unimail. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Yes, you have to drop by IT Desk during o-week to get your unipass done. That would be the universal password for your myUNSW, unimail etc.

before you fly, make sure you sumbat yourself with lots and lots and lots of authentic malaysian food..gaga..

Hi,

I am studying in UWA engineering 2nd year student.

Willing to provide any information related to UWA or perth!

Cheers!

yeap; thanks; Pm me anything you got and will paste up first page on sunday night.

I'll be going to Melbourne in exactly 2 weeks time.. it feels so soon now..

I see.No wonder i keep on getting the error and some UNSW website says i can get my Unimail after i enrol my course but didnt mention that i need to go to the IT Desk.

Yeah,i ate like dunno how many roti canai this week.Went to mamak almost everyday.Still need to sumbat more naan.Moar!!!

so theres a first, second and third year engineering student in UWA here... anybody's a 4th year ? (i.e. my senior?)
I too can assist in questions about UWA and B.Engineering ... particularly about residential colleges as I stay in one..

indeeed ....i`m back to melb next week...so wanna go back thr now..
my place is like bored to death abit edi ..

hyeoshin. go to flinders street and get the tourist guide thingies or something.. heh u can go check out the beach aswell.. hmm i might go down to the city on sunday.. shopping is. argh.

i'm in currie hall now =D opposite UWA yay~ ^^

owh hi, so are u in 1st or 3rd year now? what engineering are you doing?

Haha currie hall, my housemate used to stay there.


so have u guys went to chilliz restaurant where they serve a 4.2 chicken rice??

third ..... mate eng

i kinda miss the days when chilliz was called "student cafe" and most stuff was only AUD3.50

4.2 chicken rice? dang that's cheap

Aih. I'm not staying in the city. I'm staying at my relatives place in Wantirna South. Taking the train to the city is a bit hard cause of the ticket price. AUS$161 for a monthly train/tram/bus ticket is a little over the edge.

jiahui : a whole year has passed and your 'meet you next time' haven't even materialized

theam : i miss the times when they used to serve chickens by the drumsticks, not by the pathetic wings now

am from uwa too, about to graduate though but will be around to provide info about the uni, the business school, and general life in perth if needed

LOL

u still there in perth???

or having holiday back in msia?

well come welcome; i`m open to any stuff that can be pinned up

hey just checking , can we bring over colour pencils, its made of wood....

Yes. I doubt they will forbid pencils.

i dunno man , last time my auntie brought in a rice scooper made of wood, kena caught , then almost fined on the spot

EDIT:
nvm , found out that my auntie forgot to declare , thats why almost kena fined, colour pencils are OK i guess but must declare i think

This post has been edited by Cruzer: Feb 2 2008, 09:25 PM

Well...a rice scooper is suspicious. What is it used for? Cooking. This means that there might be organic materials like food traces left in it. This could potentially cause bacteria and viruses to enter Australia.

A brand new wooden rice scooper will be let through, but a used one needs to be thrown into the quarantine container.

Declare or Beware! (You'll see this a lot )

it was a brand new rice scooper man...
for any new students , remember DECLARE OR BEWARE
their declaration officers are really strict.
during customs ,also they ask me all sorts of questions about myself

then again , maybe cause im a muslim

but bottom line is, dont take it for granted, its not like malaysia u can just walk right out the door without any checking

Does anyone have the link that shows a list of things not allowed to bring into Australia? I came across it once but I've forgotten to bookmark it. Now I can't seem to find that link. =/

hey snowcandy
here it is

http://www.daff.gov.au/aqis/travel/enterin...ralia/cant-take

http://www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_f...Single_page.pdf

i`m about to put tat on first page ..for coming to aus one..

but sked later they sue me for copyright

This post has been edited by KVReninem: Feb 2 2008, 10:18 PM