Should I need to attach increment letter and payslip to remind ICA?

Controllable Factors	Uncontrollable Factors
Educational qualifications	Objective facts
Employment history	Age, salary, length of residence, and Singapore tax number
Language proficiency	Quota system
******Community involvement*******	Political factors

Different from Singapore, which explicitly announces the number of approved PRs each year and the detailed numbers of approved PRs from each country, Singapore has never disclosed such information.


Recently, Singapore's Minister for Home Affairs and Law, Shanmugam, responded seriously to this question, and we'll take a look together.


Minister's Response:

Gender Ratio and Origin of Approved PRs
Minister Shanmugam stated that out of the approximately 520,000 permanent residents (PRs) in Singapore,


about 45% are male and 55% are female.


Female more than male 10 percent....

Why?



Data Source: Singapore Department of Statistics
The reason Singapore does not disclose the breakdown of PR population by nationality is due to sensitivity concerns.

However, the Minister also stated that many of Singapore's PRs come from neighboring countries due to historical factors.


According to netizens' analysis, the neighboring country mentioned is undoubtedly Malaysia.


Although the Minister did not reveal the countries from which

Singapore's approved PRs come, he disclosed that about 60% of the approved PRs in 2019 and 2020 came from Southeast Asian countries, about 34% came from other Asian countries,




So, 60% of 30,000 is 18,000.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia,Brunei, Philipines, Vietnam,Myanmar


7 countries shares this 18,000 PR successful approval.

No.	Asean 11 Country
1	Indonesia
2	Thailand
3	Malaysia
4	Brunei
5	Vietnam
6	Philippines
7	Cambodia
8	Myanmar
9	Laos
10	Singapore

11) Timor-Leste (total population is around 1.34 million only)


and the remaining 6% came from other countries.

So, 6% of 30,000 is 1,800....
So less....

Not much ang moh apply?


It is believed that the majority of the 60% from Southeast Asian countries are from Malaysia, and the percentage from China among the 34% from other Asian countries is definitely not small.

No.	20 strong economies in Asia, excluding Southeast Asian countries ( Southeast Asian countries means = Asean Countries)
1	China
2	Republic of China,Taiwan
3	Hong Kong SAR,China
4	Macau SAR,China
5	Japan
6	South Korea
7	India
8	Saudi Arabia
9	United Arab Emirates (UAE)
10	Qatar

11	Pakistan
12	Israel
13	Bangladesh
14	Turkey
15	Iran
16	Sri Lanka
17	Mongolia
18	Azerbaijan
19	Uzbekistan
20	Turkmenistan

Singapore's PR Numbers Over the Years


Have remained at around 500,000
The Minister stated that Singapore's immigration policy has been carefully adjusted, and over the years, the PR population has been kept stable at around 500,000.




I don't believe that staying in Singapore or Johor will affect your PR approval.

Factors such as age, current job, company size, salary, education, country of birth(romours), and bank savings are what I know can affect PR approval.





But if sponsor applied by husband or wife, I think sure 100 % approve.............





What is MyCareersFuture.gov.sg?

MyCareersFuture.gov.sg (MCF) is a portal that aims to provide Singapore

Citizens and Permanent Residents with a free job search experience that

matches them to relevant jobs based on the jobseeker’s skills.
For more information, please refer to:
https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/docs/myc...re_sg_user_faqs.

pdf

Aspect	Statistics
New Citizenship Granted at 2023	23,500
- Including children born overseas to Singaporean parents at 2023	1,300
New Permanent Residencies granted at 2023	34,500
Immigration Policy	Measured and stable pace, focusing on integration, contribution, and commitment to Singapore
Focus of Immigration Policy	Meeting future population needs, including granting PRs to healthcare workers

Written Reply to Parliamentary Question on the Number of Permanent Residence Status Granted in 2021

Published: 20 October 2022

Question:

Mr Yip Hon Weng: To ask the Minister for Home Affairs with the number of individuals granted permanent resident (PR) status in 2021 at a record high since 2009 (a) what are the reasons for this; (b) whether the number of PRs is expected to increase and to what extent; © how will the enhancements to our Employment Pass framework contribute to this; (d) how long can they expect to wait before receiving their Singapore citizenship after applying; and (e) what are the efforts to facilitate the conversion of suitable PRs.



https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parliament...ranted-in-2021/



About 33,400 individuals were granted Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021. This number is similar to pre-COVID levels – for instance, we granted about 32,900 new PRs in 2019.

The grant figure in 2021 included several thousand applicants who were approved in-principle but had not completed all the required processes to be granted PR by end-2020.

Such processes have to be done in person, and some applicants could not do so due to travel restrictions amid the COVID-19 situation. This also explained the below-trend number of 27,470 PRs granted in 2020.


Singapore Citizenship (SC) applications usually take 12 months to process. The best way to encourage qualified PRs to convert to SC is to continue to ensure that Singaporeans are well looked after, in a Singapore that continues to do well.

5. Further, we have in recent years widened the differentiation of benefits accorded to PRs and Singaporeans, such that Singaporeans receive more benefits in areas such as

parenthood, housing, healthcare and education.


This reflects the responsibilities and privileges of citizenship. That said, taking up citizenship is a serious commitment that is ultimately a personal decision.








https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/poli...-for-first-time





Singapore PR Application


SG PR Application Documents

The documents required for Singapore Permanent Resident (PR) application may vary depending on the applicant's circumstances and the category of PR they are applying for.


Here is a list of documents that may be required:

A1. Valid travel document with validity of at least 6 months and passport pages showing personal particulars and official descriptions;

A2. Employment Pass or S Pass;

A3. Identity card (if applicable);


A4. Birth certificate or official household census list or family register showing both parents’ name;


A5. Deed poll or change of name certificate (if applicable);


A6. Highest educational certificates (including all tertiary qualifications), transcripts, professional license/membership certificates and vocational trade certificates;


A7. Testimonials from previous employer(s) stating the nature and duration of employment and the last drawn basic salary (if any);


A8. Payslips for the last 6 months;


A9. Current Employer’s letter stating the date of employment, position held, salary per month for the past 6 months with breakdown into basic, overtime and allowance per month. The letter, addressed to the Controller of Immigration, should be dated within 1 month from the date of submission;

A10. Appendix - 1 (PR-PTS) is to give consent for ICA to obtain and verify financial information provided in respect of this application (This form is available for downloading before the start of application upon Singpass login);

A11. (For self-employed) Valid Business Registration Certificate with names of partners shown; and

A12. (For self-employed) Occupational license pertaining to your employment (e.g. Stall license, business license, property agent license).


Resume or Curriculum Vitae (CV)
Some people submit,but ICA do not require us to submit right?


Child birth certificate, if applicable
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Divorce certificate, if applicable
Death certificate of spouse, if applicable

Any other relevant supporting documents


If i submit today, it is still valid.

Bit if I submit on 1 May, I need to provide april pay slip right?


Now i give oct,nov,dec,jan,feb,mar pay slip

6 months

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: May 17 2024, 10:37 PM

Why fill duplicate 2 times?

Yes

Eligibility
As a foreigner, you may be eligible for permanent residence online if you are a/an:

Spouse of a Singapore citizen (SC) or Singapore permanent resident (PR)
Child of a Singapore citizen or permanent resident who is unmarried and age under 21
Aged parent of a Singapore citizen
Holder of an Employment Pass or S Pass
Student studying in Singapore



5 category

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: May 1 2023, 09:35 PM

Any one more than 1 year no result?

My one is 10 months.


L

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Sep 28 2024, 09:49 AM

I got mine within 3 months, but that was nearly 25 or 30 years ago. They were handing out invitations to doctors to apply. I still get the invitation to convert at every PR renewal...

Good luck with yours.

Get PR there.. Pay taxes there.. But when need medical constation, teavel back to Malaysia

Not really. Interesting that people like MooMoo decided to come to Singapore for health matters, as opposed to staying back for the RM1 treatment in Malaysia.

This post has been edited by hksgmy: Feb 4 2024, 11:49 AM

That because he is rich enough to pay.
Wife did a biopsy for sgd7000 which could have been done at rm2000-3000 in malaysia. Just a biopsy. Had it not that her company covered her cost she would have gone back to Malaysia to do it. Lots of hassle but sure worth it.

This post has been edited by bengang15: Feb 4 2024, 12:07 PM

What biopsy did your wife do that cost so much, if you don't mind me asking?

To be honest, I get a very extremely skewed picture of health costs in Singapore and Australia, because my colleagues will waive this and waive that, and hospitals will give me discounts for inpatient stays etc, since I'm a fellow health professional, and a teaching faculty member.

So, while people keep going on about how expensive things are, I just keep quiet.

Breast. No joke. Sgd7000. I am not in medical line but when I heard 7k I nearly choke. My wife was already making arrangement to take leave, confirm appointment at PD hospital etc. Thankfully company called back and confirm its covered.

In anycase honestly my Singaporean colleague (and I mean Singaporean born) tells me that health care in Singapore is crazy expensive. For older folks they gets lots of rebate but for young folks like them practically nothing. And for all insurance claim they have to co pay such is their regulation.

Anyway i think that's the case for most developed nation. One thing I am very thankful for is malaysia public hospital and insurance.

Sorry to hear that about your wife. I hope she's all good now. SGD7000 is on the high side, even for private hospitals. I don't know when this was done, but this may not have been in line with MOH's latest fee guidelines. Obviously, the technical difficulties of the patient will alter the guideline fees somewhat, but I guess the important thing was that your wife's all well now. And that it was covered by insurance (which makes me wonder whether the price was "adjusted" to take that into account).

You can check out the guideline fees for a Breast Biopsy HERE

Thanks. Didn't know there a reference price. Anyway she is ok. It's benign. Been there for ages. Just that first time medical check in Singapore and they want it to be recheck.

Not sure if it was adjusted. Just glad didn't have to cough up sgd 7000. It was just 2 months ago.

Pretty sure once the hospital knew it was covered by insurance, the knives were sharpened. This is one aspect of private healthcare in Singapore that I have serious reservations about - but, again, because it really doesn't affect me (doctors even in private sector, will waive consultation fees and procedural fees for fellow doctors, or at least offer a very generous discount), I really cannot comment too much.

I heard it's faster to get PR approved now. Most of the cases are about 6 months or less, unless you're not within the selected criteria, you may require more documents, etc.

I just applied mine a couple of months ago under my wife's sponsorship but nothing so far.

Good luck bro

Facebook group 新加坡PR交流區 1 person said need more than 1 year

Some of my friends who are applying for PR say that the longer you wait, the more likely you'll get it. The rejection letter apparently comes really quickly if they deem you unsuitable/undesirable/not qualified.

Good luck to you too!

Thanks .. I need to get myself a house .. I held my pr application for 4 years due to my scholarship

It's rather random, most of the Malaysians I know got theirs within 6 months .. those from Indonesia apparently faster too recently .. those from other countries may take a little longer ..

If you're an EP holder, doubt u have to worry. S pass may take a little longer.

Last time, my friend applied for Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021 with an Employment Pass (EP), but he failed to obtain it.



Perhaps it was because he transferred all his salary to Malaysia and didn't have much savings in Singapore.


My S Pass is going to be renewed for another two years this September 2024.


I hope I can get PR so that I won't need to renew my S Pass again. I'm worried that the company may not have enough S Pass quota.

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Feb 5 2024, 01:21 AM

Is he a guy? Haha .. usually its harder for a guy to get it .. they seem to prefer females ..

Oh good luck then .. hate s pass too due to quota .. else ask your company to upgrade you to EP .. haha

1st time I heard they prefer female.

Is it your female friends get PR then your male friends?

what benefit getting PR at SG? maybe can share and list here.

Yes .. haha ..

My wife got her PR within 6 months, and she applied 6 months from her employment.

Her colleague, a male got rejected 3 times before he succeeded and ranks 2 level higher than her .. but his conversion to citizen was smooth.

Another male colleague of her still getting rejected until today after like many tries .. from what I heard coz he participated in the bersih rally .. hence the rejection

My Indonesian colleague and her fren got it within 6 months. Both female.

A male Burmese applied for almost 2 years but it was really hard for him to get it .. they came back to him requesting multiple documents .. despite he's a PhD holder and currently working for government

A friend of mine got his within 6 months too .. male but he has a lot of savings in sgd .. he used to work here before he returned to Malaysia for phd .. then applied after working for about 2 years

If you have an FD in one of the banks .. shouldn't be hard .. I heard if you have an insurance policy .. the likelihood of getting PR is higher too

I'm also waiting for mine anxiously because we would like to get a unit ASAP .. but I'm kinda worried they may classify me under marriage of convenience..

Can have security in employment

Getting a new job? Get some extra money from CPF? Get yourself a place you call home instead of renting(only if your other half is a PR too)? Medical benefits?

After living in Sg for almost 10 years .. I kinda sell myself to them .. I used to tell myself that I would return to Malaysia .. but I feel that its different in sg compared to Malaysia .. so getting a PR provides more flexibility compared to a work pass holder ..

For me that is easy to jump to another company......


No jump,increment low...

And no need every 2 years go to clinic take blood test.


Go to all museum is free.


Have CPF...



This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Feb 5 2024, 11:26 AM

I have more than 60,000 SGD in a fixed deposit with Maybank Singapore.

It has been more than a year since I opened the fixed deposit.

I hope MY PR application will be approved in March, or even better, before Chinese New Year Chap Goh Mei (24/2).


So your wife guaranteed and submitted your PR application?

So far, I've never heard of anyone being classified under marriage of convenience, unless it's a fake marriage.

In the past, there have been cases where illegal prostitutes married old men.


They weren't living together, and the Singapore Registry of Marriages officer noticed and reported it to the ICA or police.


Big news on newspaper.




This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Feb 5 2024, 11:38 AM

Best not to hop around with a working pass when applying PR .. for my case .. my job scope is rather niche hence hopping is hard for me

Lucky my Pass is 5 years .. haha

Should be OK I guess, maybe u should have FD in their local bank, after all maybank is still a Malaysian bank .. haha

Coz I applied PR under my wife about 6 months from our ROM, so they may be a little wary about it .. and I'm currently employed less than 6 months

I thought E pass max is 3 years?

Duration of renewed pass Up to 3 years. The duration of the renewed pass is not affected by the length of validity of your passport.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/e...ss/renew-a-pass


Why you have more than 3 years?


Follow exactly passport?

When you applied PR,you still work at malaysia?

No idea, they issued me until 2028. Mine is a new pass .. I didn't renew it .. I was carrying a student pass back then .. EP > student > EP again ..

I have no idea how the passes work .. haha

No, I'm working in Sg now .. so I am applying under my wife while I'm working in Sg .. we got married when I was a student .. then I applied the pass about 2 months down my employment .. so I decided to tag onto my wife to expedite the process .. however we didn't take the marriage of convenience into consideration .. so a little worried about it .. if you read them on reddit or expat forum .. there's a lot of such cases where they got rejected

Your race is an important factor, if u malaysian chinese, should not have any issues. If rejected, just try again, just a matter of time before u get it.

If u non malaysian and non chinese, dont bother, waste of time.

Haha .. yes that's what I heard too .. but I think TS wants to rush due to the possibility of quota issue

You study in NUS or NTU?

I thought ICA just rejected and will not give any reason?

Wow I always thought u r PR or citizen
Married with kids

U must be sure to be in sg for more than half the year?

Yes, they don't. But, if you read on other forums they kinna raise this up, so I am worried to be rejected.

Nus

So you study degree then work then study master?

School fees no subsidy?

I pursued my PhD .. I was under scholarship, hence I was not eligible for PR throughout the programme.

To be honest and as much as I would hate to admit it, I’ll very likely take up Singapore citizenship before I retire and give up my treasured Malaysian passport. The bulk of our properties and the majority of our wealth is parked in Singapore. My annuity is paid out in SGD. I have 0 KWSP but more than a million in my CPF. And with citizenship I won’t have to worry about whether my PR will expire while I’m based in Australia.

Once I’m in Australia, I intend to stay out and do domestic travel for at least 4 years without leaving Aussie shores. That’s why I planned the round the world trip to shake the wanderlust out of my system. Once those 4 years are fulfilled, I’ll apply for Aussie citizenship and keep my Singaporean one on the side

With a PhD, I don’t see the issue with them not granting you PR… good luck in advance!

Haha thanks but I need it ASAP .. initially we had plans to return to MY but guess not now .. everything is way efficient in SG

Most malaysian will go back to malaysia only after age 60 or retired

Yeah, I thought like you once....

This post has been edited by hksgmy: Feb 5 2024, 11:45 PM

I don't know man .. it's hard to decide as of now .. sg kinda like a drug .. while things may be a little expensive but I do get a better and healthier life .. whenever I return to Malaysia I feel my diet/lifestyle is so unhealthy .. I have just returned for a day for cny and I feel everything is sooo bad haha

At least you have all planned out ..

I'm still early into my career, a lot of catch up to do. I would say I'm kinda late compared to my peers of the same age .. I took a gamble and hope it would pay off in the future by doing what I love

If you don’t mind me asking, in which field of study/ research was your PhD?

Microbiology, specially virology

Who keep payslip for 6 month?

And why Singapork authorities want see payslip? It's P &C

And

A4. Birth certificate or official household census list or family register showing both parents’ name;

For what fark? My parent have nothing to do with my employment si kiasu land

I’d imagine you would have NCID staff knocking on your door for your expertise especially during COVID! I reckon you’re a shoo-in for PR. Singapore would be lucky to have you

Maybe check criminal record of parents

Why would it be P&C when they have the authority over you?

They have to ensure that you have a clean record before they can accept you right?

I'm still learning the ropes. Just need to do my best. Haha

Higher pay -> higher skilled -> higher tax -> greater potential contribution to SG -> higher your chances of getting PR

If your parents have roots in SG, higher chance for you to get PR lor. Also, to discriminate if you are not Chinese.

If my aunt gets Singapore citizenship, and my brother and his wife also receive Singapore PR approval, do I have a high chance of getting Singapore PR approval too?

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Feb 6 2024, 07:02 PM

Not sure if they maintain a family tree database that deep.. IIRC, one of the questions asked during PR application is whether your parents born in Singapore or something.

Not really, it won't help your cause if you're above 21 years old.

Yes.And need to fill in where they are born.

When I applied for mine, they went so far as to ask which denomination my religion was….

Which year?

That time is paper form or online?

So details....

For example,佛光山，慈濟，法鼓山，淨宗？

Mine was 30 years ago. Paper.

1994

Maybe that time the world's geopolitical landscape is unstable. Some religious groups also have individuals who disrupt peace and stability.

Yeah, 25-30 years ago, world was a different place.

Nope, doesn’t count that far. Only immediate family members.

Brother is not consider immediate family members?

This post has been edited by plouffle0789: Feb 6 2024, 11:04 PM

Not so, but his wife is his closest family then their children, then his parents, then only siblings.

But i was only focus on your comment about your aunty as score addition.

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/news/singapore/st...-list-recommend


Now have this


Volunteer join....

Later will have chance become compulsory?

This is their citizenship program for new PR. not for applicants, but the approved new PR - by random selection for now.

Just sharing that my PR was recently approved. Letter was dated 6 Feb 2024. I applied on 3 Jul 2023 so I guess it took me around 7 months.

This post has been edited by Yggdrasil: Feb 9 2024, 02:00 AM

May I know you have s pass or ep?

Do you update letter of increment to ica?

1st time applied?

what is ur occupation ?

Your salary need to give a cut to contribute CPF.

This post has been edited by imkevin2022: Feb 9 2024, 01:35 AM

EP. I did not update my letter of increment although I received a $1.17k increment.

However, I did update my address in the HDB website after I moved. The previous landlord did not register me in the website. Not sure if it plays a role.

Professional services.

At least employers will top up too.

is it under the occupation list ?

What list you're referring to? Not aware of this.

Professional services encompass a wide range of fields beyond

law, such as accounting, consulting,
engineering, healthcare, architecture,
and financial advising

, to name a few.


Your job field is included in this list, right?

Yes it's one of them. Don't want to disclose much.

Congratulations bro

Oh I see.

Congrats.
When you plan to take citizenship?

Congrats!


To those k/ in Sg who balik kampung, drive safe! Causeway dah start jam.

Yes.

Luckily I get bus early...

7.45am jb sentral many poeple waiting grab

Congratulations, now you will pay less income tax due to cpf contributions.

Kesian me.


Me got my SPR with help from my kids ... kesian me... i sold them to sg to be take NS..