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 Singapore PR Application on May 2023, Already 12 months

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post Apr 30 2023, 08:48 AM, updated 4 months ago

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Should I need to attach increment letter and payslip to remind ICA?

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Controllable Factors Uncontrollable Factors
Educational qualifications Objective facts
Employment history Age, salary, length of residence, and Singapore tax number
Language proficiency Quota system
******Community involvement******* Political factors


Different from Singapore, which explicitly announces the number of approved PRs each year and the detailed numbers of approved PRs from each country, Singapore has never disclosed such information.


Recently, Singapore's Minister for Home Affairs and Law, Shanmugam, responded seriously to this question, and we'll take a look together.


Minister's Response:

Gender Ratio and Origin of Approved PRs
Minister Shanmugam stated that out of the approximately 520,000 permanent residents (PRs) in Singapore,


about 45% are male and 55% are female.


Female more than male 10 percent....

Why?



Data Source: Singapore Department of Statistics
The reason Singapore does not disclose the breakdown of PR population by nationality is due to sensitivity concerns.

However, the Minister also stated that many of Singapore's PRs come from neighboring countries due to historical factors.


According to netizens' analysis, the neighboring country mentioned is undoubtedly Malaysia.


Although the Minister did not reveal the countries from which

Singapore's approved PRs come, he disclosed that about 60% of the approved PRs in 2019 and 2020 came from Southeast Asian countries, about 34% came from other Asian countries,




So, 60% of 30,000 is 18,000.

Indonesia, Thailand, Malaysia,Brunei, Philipines, Vietnam,Myanmar


7 countries shares this 18,000 PR successful approval.




No. Asean 11 Country
1 Indonesia
2 Thailand
3 Malaysia
4 Brunei
5 Vietnam
6 Philippines
7 Cambodia
8 Myanmar
9 Laos
10 Singapore
11) Timor-Leste (total population is around 1.34 million only)


and the remaining 6% came from other countries.

So, 6% of 30,000 is 1,800....
So less....

Not much ang moh apply?


It is believed that the majority of the 60% from Southeast Asian countries are from Malaysia, and the percentage from China among the 34% from other Asian countries is definitely not small.


No. 20 strong economies in Asia, excluding Southeast Asian countries ( Southeast Asian countries means = Asean Countries)
1 China
2 Republic of China,Taiwan
3 Hong Kong SAR,China
4 Macau SAR,China
5 Japan
6 South Korea
7 India
8 Saudi Arabia
9 United Arab Emirates (UAE)
10 Qatar


11 Pakistan
12 Israel
13 Bangladesh
14 Turkey
15 Iran
16 Sri Lanka
17 Mongolia
18 Azerbaijan
19 Uzbekistan
20 Turkmenistan



Singapore's PR Numbers Over the Years


Have remained at around 500,000
The Minister stated that Singapore's immigration policy has been carefully adjusted, and over the years, the PR population has been kept stable at around 500,000.




I don't believe that staying in Singapore or Johor will affect your PR approval.

Factors such as age, current job, company size, salary, education, country of birth(romours), and bank savings are what I know can affect PR approval.





But if sponsor applied by husband or wife, I think sure 100 % approve.............





What is MyCareersFuture.gov.sg?

MyCareersFuture.gov.sg (MCF) is a portal that aims to provide Singapore

Citizens and Permanent Residents with a free job search experience that

matches them to relevant jobs based on the jobseeker’s skills.
For more information, please refer to:
https://www.mycareersfuture.gov.sg/docs/myc...re_sg_user_faqs.

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Aspect Statistics
New Citizenship Granted at 2023 23,500
- Including children born overseas to Singaporean parents at 2023 1,300
New Permanent Residencies granted at 2023 34,500
Immigration Policy Measured and stable pace, focusing on integration, contribution, and commitment to Singapore
Focus of Immigration Policy Meeting future population needs, including granting PRs to healthcare workers



Written Reply to Parliamentary Question on the Number of Permanent Residence Status Granted in 2021

Published: 20 October 2022

Question:

Mr Yip Hon Weng: To ask the Minister for Home Affairs with the number of individuals granted permanent resident (PR) status in 2021 at a record high since 2009 (a) what are the reasons for this; (b) whether the number of PRs is expected to increase and to what extent; © how will the enhancements to our Employment Pass framework contribute to this; (d) how long can they expect to wait before receiving their Singapore citizenship after applying; and (e) what are the efforts to facilitate the conversion of suitable PRs.



https://www.mha.gov.sg/mediaroom/parliament...ranted-in-2021/



About 33,400 individuals were granted Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021. This number is similar to pre-COVID levels – for instance, we granted about 32,900 new PRs in 2019.

The grant figure in 2021 included several thousand applicants who were approved in-principle but had not completed all the required processes to be granted PR by end-2020.

Such processes have to be done in person, and some applicants could not do so due to travel restrictions amid the COVID-19 situation. This also explained the below-trend number of 27,470 PRs granted in 2020.


Singapore Citizenship (SC) applications usually take 12 months to process. The best way to encourage qualified PRs to convert to SC is to continue to ensure that Singaporeans are well looked after, in a Singapore that continues to do well.

5. Further, we have in recent years widened the differentiation of benefits accorded to PRs and Singaporeans, such that Singaporeans receive more benefits in areas such as

parenthood, housing, healthcare and education.


This reflects the responsibilities and privileges of citizenship. That said, taking up citizenship is a serious commitment that is ultimately a personal decision.








https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/poli...-for-first-time





Singapore PR Application


SG PR Application Documents

The documents required for Singapore Permanent Resident (PR) application may vary depending on the applicant's circumstances and the category of PR they are applying for.


Here is a list of documents that may be required:

A1. Valid travel document with validity of at least 6 months and passport pages showing personal particulars and official descriptions;

A2. Employment Pass or S Pass;

A3. Identity card (if applicable);


A4. Birth certificate or official household census list or family register showing both parents’ name;


A5. Deed poll or change of name certificate (if applicable);


A6. Highest educational certificates (including all tertiary qualifications), transcripts, professional license/membership certificates and vocational trade certificates;


A7. Testimonials from previous employer(s) stating the nature and duration of employment and the last drawn basic salary (if any);


A8. Payslips for the last 6 months;


A9. Current Employer’s letter stating the date of employment, position held, salary per month for the past 6 months with breakdown into basic, overtime and allowance per month. The letter, addressed to the Controller of Immigration, should be dated within 1 month from the date of submission;

A10. Appendix - 1 (PR-PTS) is to give consent for ICA to obtain and verify financial information provided in respect of this application (This form is available for downloading before the start of application upon Singpass login);

A11. (For self-employed) Valid Business Registration Certificate with names of partners shown; and

A12. (For self-employed) Occupational license pertaining to your employment (e.g. Stall license, business license, property agent license).


Resume or Curriculum Vitae (CV)
Some people submit,but ICA do not require us to submit right?


Child birth certificate, if applicable
Marriage certificate, if applicable
Divorce certificate, if applicable
Death certificate of spouse, if applicable

Any other relevant supporting documents


If i submit today, it is still valid.

Bit if I submit on 1 May, I need to provide april pay slip right?


Now i give oct,nov,dec,jan,feb,mar pay slip

6 months

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post May 1 2023, 08:47 AM

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Why fill duplicate 2 times?
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post May 1 2023, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(Chanwsan @ May 1 2023, 10:30 AM)
Yes
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Eligibility
As a foreigner, you may be eligible for permanent residence online if you are a/an:

Spouse of a Singapore citizen (SC) or Singapore permanent resident (PR)
Child of a Singapore citizen or permanent resident who is unmarried and age under 21
Aged parent of a Singapore citizen
Holder of an Employment Pass or S Pass
Student studying in Singapore



5 category

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Any one more than 1 year no result?

My one is 10 months.


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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 4 2024, 12:44 PM)
I heard it's faster to get PR approved now. Most of the cases are about 6 months or less, unless you're not within the selected criteria, you may require more documents, etc.

I just applied mine a couple of months ago under my wife's sponsorship but nothing so far.
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Facebook group 新加坡PR交流區 1 person said need more than 1 year
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:01 AM)
It's rather random, most of the Malaysians I know got theirs within 6 months .. those from Indonesia apparently faster too recently .. those from other countries may take a little longer ..

If you're an EP holder, doubt u have to worry. S pass may take a little longer.
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Last time, my friend applied for Permanent Residency (PR) in 2021 with an Employment Pass (EP), but he failed to obtain it.



Perhaps it was because he transferred all his salary to Malaysia and didn't have much savings in Singapore.


My S Pass is going to be renewed for another two years this September 2024.


I hope I can get PR so that I won't need to renew my S Pass again. I'm worried that the company may not have enough S Pass quota.

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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 09:33 AM)
Is he a guy? Haha .. usually its harder for a guy to get it .. they seem to prefer females ..

Oh good luck then .. hate s pass too due to quota .. else ask your company to upgrade you to EP .. haha
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1st time I heard they prefer female.

Is it your female friends get PR then your male friends?



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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:11 AM)
Getting a new job? Get some extra money from CPF? Get yourself a place you call home instead of renting(only if your other half is a PR too)? Medical benefits?

After living in Sg for almost 10 years .. I kinda sell myself to them .. I used to tell myself that I would return to Malaysia .. but I feel that its different in sg compared to Malaysia .. so getting a PR provides more flexibility compared to a work pass holder ..
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For me that is easy to jump to another company......


No jump,increment low...

And no need every 2 years go to clinic take blood test.


Go to all museum is free.


Have CPF...



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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:07 AM)
Yes .. haha ..

My wife got her PR within 6 months, and she applied 6 months from her employment.

Her colleague, a male got rejected 3 times before he succeeded and ranks 2 level higher than her .. but his conversion to citizen was smooth.

Another male colleague of her still getting rejected until today after like many tries .. from what I heard coz he participated in the bersih rally .. hence the rejection

My Indonesian colleague and her fren got it within 6 months. Both female.

A male Burmese applied for almost 2 years but it was really hard for him to get it .. they came back to him requesting multiple documents .. despite he's a PhD holder and currently working for government

A friend of mine got his within 6 months too .. male but he has a lot of savings in sgd .. he used to work here before he returned to Malaysia for phd .. then applied after working for about 2 years

If you have an FD in one of the banks .. shouldn't be hard .. I heard if you have an insurance policy .. the likelihood of getting PR is higher too

I'm also waiting for mine anxiously because we would like to get a unit ASAP .. but I'm kinda worried they may classify me under marriage of convenience..
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I have more than 60,000 SGD in a fixed deposit with Maybank Singapore.

It has been more than a year since I opened the fixed deposit.

I hope MY PR application will be approved in March, or even better, before Chinese New Year Chap Goh Mei (24/2).


So your wife guaranteed and submitted your PR application?

So far, I've never heard of anyone being classified under marriage of convenience, unless it's a fake marriage.

In the past, there have been cases where illegal prostitutes married old men.


They weren't living together, and the Singapore Registry of Marriages officer noticed and reported it to the ICA or police.


Big news on newspaper.


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May 5, 2023

On Thursday (May 4), the 54-year-old Vietnamese woman was sentenced to six months' jail after she pleaded guilty to a charge related to arranging a marriage with the intention of obtaining an immigration advantage for her daughter in the form of a visit pass.

Her daughter Vuong Thi My Tuyen, 31, was sentenced to six months' jail, while the 51-year-old man she married out of convenience, Hoo Khee Hwa, was fined S$8,000 and sentenced to six months' jail in a separate hearing.

It was not mentioned when Vuong or Hoo were sentenced.

Kim then suggested having Luong's daughter enter a marriage-of-convenience with Hoo, in order to extend her stay. It was not stated in court documents whether Kim and Hoo were acquainted when the suggestion was made.

When Luong told her daughter the idea, she agreed to partake in the sham arrangement and a sum of about S$14,000 to S$16,000 was made to Kim to carry out the ploy.

Both Hoo and Vuong solemnised their marriage at Inspired by Luv Cafe at 7 Canning Rise, where the Registry of Marriages is also located. This was on Aug 19 in 2016, and Luong was one of the marriage witnesses.


In a statement to TODAY, ICA said that it takes a serious view of individuals trying to circumvent Singapore's system by “engaging in, arranging or assisting to arrange marriages-of-convenience to obtain immigration facilities in Singapore”. It will therefore continue to take firm enforcement action against errant couples and middlemen.

For arranging a marriage-of-convenience, Luong could have been fined up to S$10,000 or jailed up to 10 years, or both.


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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:58 AM)
Best not to hop around with a working pass when applying PR .. for my case .. my job scope is rather niche hence hopping is hard for me

Lucky my Pass is 5 years .. haha
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I thought E pass max is 3 years?

Duration of renewed pass Up to 3 years. The duration of the renewed pass is not affected by the length of validity of your passport.

https://www.mom.gov.sg/passes-and-permits/e...ss/renew-a-pass


Why you have more than 3 years?


Follow exactly passport?
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:02 PM)
Should be OK I guess, maybe u should have FD in their local bank, after all maybank is still a Malaysian bank .. haha

Coz I applied PR under my wife about 6 months from our ROM, so they may be a little wary about it .. and I'm currently employed less than 6 months
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When you applied PR,you still work at malaysia?
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:48 PM)
No idea, they issued me until 2028. Mine is a new pass .. I didn't renew it .. I was carrying a student pass back then .. EP > student > EP again ..

I have no idea how the passes work .. haha
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You study in NUS or NTU?
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 12:52 PM)
No, I'm working in Sg now .. so I am applying under my wife while I'm working in Sg .. we got married when I was a student .. then I applied the pass about 2 months down my employment .. so I decided to tag onto my wife to expedite the process .. however we didn't take the marriage of convenience into consideration .. so a little worried about it .. if you read them on reddit or expat forum .. there's a lot of such cases where they got rejected
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I thought ICA just rejected and will not give any reason?
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 07:36 PM)
Nus
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So you study degree then work then study master?

School fees no subsidy?
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QUOTE(malz89 @ Feb 5 2024, 11:11 PM)
Haha thanks but I need it ASAP .. initially we had plans to return to MY but guess not now .. everything is way efficient in SG
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Most malaysian will go back to malaysia only after age 60 or retired
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QUOTE(InitialB @ Feb 6 2024, 12:29 AM)
Who keep payslip for 6 month?

And why Singapork authorities want see payslip? It's P &C

And

A4. Birth certificate or official household census list or family register showing both parents’ name;

For what fark? My parent have nothing to do with my employment si kiasu land
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Maybe check criminal record of parents
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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Feb 6 2024, 06:53 PM)
Higher pay -> higher skilled -> higher tax -> greater potential contribution to SG -> higher your chances of getting PR
If your parents have roots in SG, higher chance for you to get PR lor. Also, to discriminate if you are not Chinese.  icon_idea.gif
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If my aunt gets Singapore citizenship, and my brother and his wife also receive Singapore PR approval, do I have a high chance of getting Singapore PR approval too?

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QUOTE(Yggdrasil @ Feb 6 2024, 07:05 PM)
Not sure if they maintain a family tree database that deep.. IIRC, one of the questions asked during PR application is whether your parents born in Singapore or something.
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Yes.And need to fill in where they are born.

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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 6 2024, 09:12 PM)
When I applied for mine, they went so far as to ask which denomination my religion was….
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Which year?

That time is paper form or online?

So details....

For example,佛光山,慈濟,法鼓山,淨宗?
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QUOTE(hksgmy @ Feb 6 2024, 09:26 PM)
Mine was 30 years ago. Paper.
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1994

Maybe that time the world's geopolitical landscape is unstable. Some religious groups also have individuals who disrupt peace and stability.

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