Not really. Interesting that people like MooMoo decided to come to Singapore for health matters, as opposed to staying back for the RM1 treatment in Malaysia.

What biopsy did your wife do that cost so much, if you don't mind me asking?

To be honest, I get a very extremely skewed picture of health costs in Singapore and Australia, because my colleagues will waive this and waive that, and hospitals will give me discounts for inpatient stays etc, since I'm a fellow health professional, and a teaching faculty member.

So, while people keep going on about how expensive things are, I just keep quiet.

Sorry to hear that about your wife. I hope she's all good now. SGD7000 is on the high side, even for private hospitals. I don't know when this was done, but this may not have been in line with MOH's latest fee guidelines. Obviously, the technical difficulties of the patient will alter the guideline fees somewhat, but I guess the important thing was that your wife's all well now. And that it was covered by insurance (which makes me wonder whether the price was "adjusted" to take that into account).

You can check out the guideline fees for a Breast Biopsy HERE

Any updates from TS yet?

Please Seriously consider this matter if u and your kid intend to stay/work/study , your kid age ?

Same your thinking don’t want kid serve ns

My friend true story , 2 friend - did say regret not serve they still work in Singapore, they no study well la WP or S pass now maybe ?

If your kid study until universities I guess got chance reapply for pr after 21, but still not favourable. Just my opinion

If you are in such dilemma, SG really isn’t for you.

Likely both lol .. jailed with penalty and can never work in sg.

Not true bro. I have 1st generation PR patients whose (2nd generation PR) kids cannot return to Singapore to work because they gave up their PR'ship before their NS liabilities were fully discharged.

I have a Malaysian ex-PR who did that, and is now only given a year to year employment pass to set up his own business (in joint partnership with a Singaporean).

They do make life difficult for you.

You are correct ... don't game the system. Singapore's bureaucracy is very good at the minutiae and closing any potential loopholes. Unless you're a helang, you will not find a way to squirm away from the trap they've laid for you.

Obviously, if you're a helang, many eyes can be closed and many doors will mysteriously open.

Renouncing or losing one's PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will
have a serious adverse impact on applications to work or study in Singapore, or for any longterm immigration facilities in Singapore, whether now or in the future. Renouncing or losing
one’s PR status without serving or completing full-time NS will also adversely affect your
family members’ applications for long-term immigration facilities, their ability to sponsor such
facilities, their renewal of Re-Entry Permits, or their applications for Singapore Citizenship.

You're wrong. If you Google, you would end up with the phrase above. So, it will affect 3 generations. His kid, his grandkids and himself.

I guess for PR you will not be charged. Only that you may not be able to work in sg. Not too bad la .. if you're concerned about NS. You shouldn't be worried. Your son will be staying in tekong most of the time

Can stay in hostel ba. You can always bring him along wit you but return to singapore to serve NS.

I think a friend of mine did this, now that I recalled. He was a PR, served NS, renounced.

Hi bro, I don’t understand why you're worried.
You said NS is good, but you worried about job security?
Are you worried that your son, if he works in JB after turning 20(assuming he serves 2 years NS in Singapore at age 18), will still have to return to Singapore every year for 40 days of Operationally Ready National Service (ORNS) training until the age of 40?
Are you afraid your son will waste 2 years of NS time in Singapore?

If he has PR status, even if he works a manufacturing operator job, his salary will be higher than those without PR.

PR is very difficult to get nowadays.
My friend, after serving NS, discovered he likes this kind of disciplined job.He joined Certis Cisco Auxiliary Police Officer role and his salary is very high because he’s a PR.

He earns a basic salary of $3,300.

Plus many allowance.....

I don’t think your jobs will be adversely affected but your future PR renewal may be subject to scrutiny and with 6 million residents, they can easily choose someone they think is more ‘loyal’ to make up for the potential cancellation of your PR renewal.

Singapore government is very small minded and vindictive one.

If you have a PR why are you worried? You won't be kicked out of Singapore unlike having a work pass. And, it is easier for you to get a job. Basically a PR = citizen in term of work employment. Else, you can always grab as a PR .. haha

This is if they tried to dodge it after reaching NS age but if they did it before they reached NS age, then I doubt it. If you're interested, you could dive into the Enlistment Act to find out more.

They do however have "soft measures" that they can apply which would affect the kids and their kids ability to stay long term in SG. There are already official statements made on this.