For Trace/Ping result refer here..


For extra info on iBurst, go here
Wiki Link

Kyrocera IBurst webside
Manufacturer Link

For Extra Technical eg Bandwidth Calculation & Etc go here
Technical Link

If your interested /w Izzi, you can go here and contact some agents for testing @ your location...
Izzi Agent Forum

_-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...&sec=technology

This post has been edited by JinXXX: Jan 16 2008, 10:18 AM

Good news about them is that they do not seem to be connected through TMnet, so their connection to the rest of the world might not suck:

traceroute to izzi.com.my (116.206.0.37), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1 10.255.255.253 (10.255.255.253) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
2 vl-993.gw-core-a.whn.oneandone.net (217.160.229.45) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
3 ae-0-0.bb-a.tla.nyc.us.oneandone.net (217.160.229.65) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
4 nyk-b1-link.telia.net (213.248.95.69) 0 ms 0 ms 0 ms
5 nyk-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.250.162) 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms
6 ash-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.83.22) 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
7 p16-1-2-2.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.97) 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
8 ae-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.16) [MPLS: Label 680441 Exp 0] 6 ms 6 ms 6 ms
9 as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.21) [MPLS: Label 307415 Exp 0] 72 ms 71 ms 72 ms
10 as-2.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.35) [MPLS: Label 327416 Exp 0] 185 ms 185 ms 186 ms
11 ae-0.r01.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.70) [MPLS: Label 363538 Exp 0] 191 ms 186 ms 186 ms
12 p4-2-1-0.r00.kslrml01.my.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.90) 296 ms 339 ms 296 ms
13 ge-0-0-0.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.gin.ntt.net (129.250.16.58) 297 ms 338 ms 296 ms
14 203.78.193.78 (203.78.193.78) 290 ms 292 ms 290 ms
15 202.76.224.14 (202.76.224.14) 292 ms 276 ms 287 ms
16 202.76.224.33 (202.76.224.33) 275 ms 285 ms 275 ms
17 202.76.239.20 (202.76.239.20) 278 ms 277 ms 278 ms
18 116.206.0.2 (116.206.0.2) 277 ms 277 ms 281 ms
19 * * *

Bad news is that it's wireless.

well we can't say.. maybe their website is hosted in some datacenter aka ntt ? i presume seeing traces 7 to 13..

hehehe but their wireless service's backbone might be NTT if its really NTT then it will be DAMN DAMN GOOD i think...
anybody care to correct me if i'm wrong

the PCMCIA version is priced similar to TM Nut's 1Mbit package... not that expensive if this company can provide better connection

yup, if their backbone as in internally izzi's network can support
then no problem but then again there is the part about throttling and etc..

and the international backbone that they are using..

Same ole people, new name, new face, new brand.

woohoo...at last...good to have a replacement man...

they will still all stick in KL before implement to other state

A whois query on the 2nd to last hop to their webserver:

So... nope! not hosted at NTT.

well thats true i've check the coverage areas seems GOOD, but as we know wireless have "loop-holes" hehhe

did anybody went to digital mall section 14pj and check out their road show ??

coverage area arh? haiz... no eye see

see those Jaring(old ISP) broadband still only in KL, wimax, ... ALL　IN KL!

this arh... if want them to implement to malacca or jb side.. maybe gonna wait 2020... dunno all those isp stick in KL for what

well you should be lucky.. since KL fella will be the one to be cheated of their money first..
so in a way you should be thank full

hopefully when it reaches your place the network isn't saturated lol

so how u think about jaring? the malaysia 1st ISP until now still in KL! ew...

i hope they test from malacca 1st better

Good news.. Any home user already apply and using it? I Ready to DROP off my screamyx anytime ..

Hahaha

Before everyone here gets too excited, I called them up to ask about the pricing and they said that the "RRP" stated in the price is the price that you have to pay upfront before you get the service. No monthly payment scheme (Not even a hint of risk free period if your area is not "well covered")

Probably someone else here got better information that I do. Is everyone willing to plonk that much money into a service/company which has no track record of providing Internet service ? .... better think again coz they may not be able to deliver the quality of service after a few months and you are stuck with a 1 year contract and a gadget which you cannot use for anything else.

I'm bit sceptical , as I dont know the company nor the technology that are using it

For example , JARING is reliable and they are using a reliable technology which is CDMA (Its not through WiFi , 3G , UMTS) and the technology (The Soma technology) originated from the States. So you'll know that its reliable , I mean I've read many articles on this amazing piece of technology. Apart from that , JARING is under MIMOS (In other words , Government is the one that is holding the strings together. So I'll know that they dont go bonkers or so). Same goes for TMNet

aiyah!! That is so so potong steam. Their website looking so canggih. Even their logo and branding of CPEs so lawa. B..b..but... paying up front a whole year's access fees... yikes! At this rate, they're not going to get much subscribers for starters.

Though I think they would've realized that even before they launched. So this is nothing more than a marketing hype to sign up a minimal base of subscribers (guinea pigs!!), while they figure out the stability of their network and coverage issues.

Good luck to them...

I've checked their FAQ page and there are some links not working. For example, click the Sales category and then u will find some "Click here" without and hyperlink


I would like to try this service if they provide the modem for free like tmnet or jaring! BTW, hope they cover TPM area too! my college connection sux to hell

actually its only in rich rich ppl town in KL/Selangor... like Dmansara/PJ/Subang.... other place still dont have their service...

Just to add a little.

They don't serve you directly but instead you need to go through their authorized service providers which is where you'll get your hardware from and made payment to. Actually at the price that they are charging, it probably makes more sense if you go for the Celcom / Maxis 3G plans as you'll be able to get Internet access in more coverage area than these guys.

These guys would need to improve on the price points and go for the monthly payment scheme if they want to get critical mass. Whatever their intentions (testing the market or whatever) are, I'm sure that they'll need a minimum number of subscribers in order to break even unless they have huge piggy banks to spend on.

The rich guys / real mobile users would likely sign up for Maxis / Celcom 3G packages. I don't think anyone is that stupid to go for a service which such limited coverage.

well for mobile network eg maxis/celcom/digi, the best you can get that matches with wireless will be HSPDA where by the coverage isn't well everywhere.. i'm staying like 5 mins away from KL and i dont have HSPDA in my area the only fastest i can get is EDGE ,

but we still need to see their terms eg "unlimited" = unlimited ?, and also bandwidth consistancy factor..

I smell fishy. Will it be a TMNUT child company?? Using other name to mask their presences.

Until now, we still dunno their downtime will be 2-3 mins or 2-3 days since it's a new company. But as long as everyone can get out from screamyx or TMNUT then it's ok edi

Anyway, good luck for those signing with them.

i don't think this company is a tmnut child company
its own by a company called mobif...

That is consistent with using NTT. AIMS is an interchange point.

I can semi-confirm that they interconnect @ AIMS.
They're one of the ISPs connected to MY-IX.

HTH...
- Szern

*blinks* uh.... what are we talking about? I think I'm lost.

@szern: I hope that "HTH" stands for "Have to Hurry", not "Hope that Helps".

hey! they changed the details on the website:

Annual Package Price (include 12months subscription, activation fee and Free UT) for RM 1,138.00.

Its cheap, no nid to purchase the UT, which cost 1000++.

btw, anyone went the digital mall n see the roadshow?

well it depends on how you calculate cheap.. not many of us can pay one shot the whole year's subscription fees

nope didn't went to the road show yet..

ps: of all placed they do it in digital mall do some place more accessible la eg One Utama /Curve/Midvalley..

Couldn't agree with you more on the 1 year advanced subscription fees. Nothing worse than a company without any reputation getting your money for one year and they'll do whatever they like once you already pay them. If they start using - "Best effort basis" as an excuse, then dunno what to say lah.

I think they should adopt a monthly subscription model instead of yearly - no one is Malaysia (I think) trust a broadband provider with no track record, as many have failed to deliver. Even current providers with so called "contract period" and charging on a monthly basis is already scary enuff!

And what are they thinking on marketing the service ????? Yes ... should intro it at places where there is potential buyers and more accessible to public.

Two possible reasons why they ask for 1 year advanced payment...

a) it's to "quickly" recover the cost of their access device. Which, in turn, implies that their funding is... um... "tight".

b) or, perhaps, like I had mentioned earlier, they don't want too many takers just yet... which implies, they're still "trialing" their service.

Either way, doesn't sound good. And that's sad.

well at least we sort of have an alternative isp that covers most of kl...
so the least we can do is stop b****ing about it and try it out..

Remarkable gizmo - this iBurst 4G card. Used it on the run in Australia and was so satified with its connection reliability, great speed and amazing mobility, no hesitation subscribing to one when heard about it in Malaysia. Best pricing compared to 3G and Celcom. RM1,138 compared to more than RM2,500 for the competition. Plug and play, no waiting time.

So far so good when using it around KL city, I even downloaded a Christina Aquilera video and watched her sexy moves while waiting for my Sar Ho Fun in a coffee shop in Petaling street, but not so great in PJ, but otherwise cant complain. Told by the company they will have the whole of Klang Valley covered by end August.

Also easy payment scheme if paid by credit card. Zero interest for 12 months instalments meaning I dun have to pay my bank back for 12 months with no interest charged and best yet, you get their "4G" card free. Beats Streamyx anytime anywhere.

Why this sound like a ads from Oz "iBurst". Why not put some latency (ping time) and bandwidth test, Internal IP or public? torrent speed?

Yeah right, new user with zero posts comes in and writes a glowing review of a company so shady they are asking for 1 year payment up front. Can you say "shill", ladies and gentlemen?

---

Added on July 20, 2007, 3:53 pmUseful link:

What is shill marketing?

This post has been edited by rajulkabir: Jul 20 2007, 03:53 PM

hmm you seem more like a marketing agent then a real poster...

can you show up some ping time to major server/services on the net
and also some of the traces.. and also some download max speed and some avg bt speed would be good...

i just called....

although coverage show it cover my sentul area...customer reply still setting up!!

Wow. Thanks, rajulkabir. I just learned a new term!

and the bad news is that it appears that by looking at various internet route servers, they are single-homed to global transit aka aims. that's a recipe for a service f-up in case of a gt outage.

This post has been edited by ihsan: Jul 22 2007, 03:42 PM

well nothing is perfect at first.. hopefully along the line things will change for the better ?
unlike our so called screamyx

Just called Izzi Customer hotline and they say (at least) that they do not shape bandwidth for P2P services. If this is true, then well worth the additional cost compared to our favourite Screamyx. A little skeptical if this is true in the long run....

They also said the service is now on in commercial/city centre areas, and will be expanded to residential areas (such as Bangsar) by end-Sept.

No risk-free trial yet.

Currently using Maxis Mobile Broadband - service not great (they definitely throttle P2P and reception on high floors limited) but I must admit the convenience of a wireless connection is very appealing.

erm..i wonder if the Jalan Puchong is covered...

Hei nobody mention either the Weather gonna effect the service or not like astro and jaring wireless.

I am willing to pay that much if it is true that they are not throttle P2P. afraid that its just a hype of a they marketing strategy, at the end they all like the STREAMYX THE SAMPAH!!!!

Yeah, but they did NOT say that they will not shape P2P traffic, right?


I believe that since they operate at 1.7GHz, rain attenuation will be an issue -- just like DiGi's 1.8GHz GSM service. But relative to those who operate at a higher band, it's slightly better.

Perhaps you want to read the T&Cs of service closely. It's available here ---> http://izzi.com.my/terms_condition.php

In particular, clause 10.6:

QUOTE

10.6 iZZinet reserves the right to suspend or terminate a Customer who consistently uses the Service to download or upload extremely high volume/content/traffic data. For the avoidance of doubt, the Service is not designed for consistent or extremely heavy users, particularly using peer-to-peer applications constantly or consistent use of any other applications that will have a detrimental effect to iZZinet Network's performance and that of other users' use of the Service.

Don't go signing up without reading the fine print now!

And paying one year upfront without a clear explanation of dispute resolution? Hhhmmm...

that's a good find, at last the truth is out

where the large print giveth, the fine print taketh away. hehehe

well guess the truth is out and i can say .. izzi.. time to close shop
that's the worst statement that you can put, what the point of broadband when you can't broadband, using broadband applications aka p2p ?

other points to consider

1. suspend/terminate high bandwidth users
2. no statement regarding quality of service
3. no statement/info regarding iburst techology * we can just google this*
4. affected by rain/weather and etc or not..
5. no point subscribering.. since its wireless it will always have "wireless" loopholes
6. good luck, most of the subscriber of this site have made up their mind and well if there are those who subscribe, means your taking in desperate customers
7. no news/information about investment on your backbone and capacity support..

another company that will kick the bucket soon next..

dont know why but the moment i see them using pcmcia and usb terminal
i have a gut feeling that the company packages are doomed from start

lets see ? no p2p ? so whats diffrent from them with TM ? we p2p user looks for a good side n they are not much diffrent from it . if u p2p , they terminate ur contract ..... so its a type of shaping ... no point of getting it now . thx any for the info .

Malaysian ISP seems to hav a bad habit on using the term "Unlimited"....

say is Unlimited package, then they say "terminate a Customer who consistently uses the Service to download or upload extremely high volume/content/traffic data"..... how irony....

Surfnut: Yes I already using it at home, their Desktop package, iZZiPro, i think. Man, its darn good - the speed n consistency in connection. Streamyx u know lah - always dropping n so darm slow and unreliable. Thank Gawd, at last now we have alternative.

---

Added on July 27, 2007, 10:23 amSurfnut: So far so good, no problem when I used in during rainy days. All I can say is the speed is great and the connection very reliable and stable. Would u believe it, I can even go on the streets outside my house with mu notebook and the connection signal was 100%.
I called up the company and they told me with my iZZiPro, i am like having a hotspot at home, with the ability to support up to 21 users concurrently with no drop in speed. I have yet to try that. Howzat man

---

Added on July 27, 2007, 10:34 amDoremi: Hey, check the iZZi website again! They have Easy PAyment plan lah - 12months zero interests with selected credit cards. I bought one straight away and paid RM1,138 on my card. I also got my free "4G" card, cool! Now I only repay about RM95 every month to my credit card company, still monthly repayment mah. It's the same. With 3G, you have to fork out RM1,300 and still pay RM120 monthly. Streamyx you pay RM78 and RM25 for the phone line, and no free "4G" card. You all know how pathetic Streamyx service is!!!!
With iZZi, I paid with credit card and within 10 minutes, I am connected. The best is I am now mobile and can surf anywhere in KL city. They said by end September, 95% of Klang Valley will be connected with iZZi. Wow, no make it double wow!!!
Also their refund policy I believe very reasonable and fair. Go check out their website - www.izzi.com.my

---

Added on July 27, 2007, 10:45 amBrudder: Yes its real dude. Go check it out. Three of my friends and I already using it for over a week in Kelana Jaya. Trust me, it is super, I mean really super. We surf from home, in the car and in the park in Kelana. All cafe outlets can surf also, no need to go Star Bucks anymore. The signal more than 95% and access super fast compared to Streamyx and Star Bucks snail paced WiFi.
Expensive, wat lah u talking. Go buy Maxis 3G or Celcom, then tell me whether its expensive. Hey dude - you get a "4G" card free man and it really works. My friend used Maxis 3G for over a year, and complained shitless about it. Does not work and poor coverage some more. I tell u dude, for surf freaks like us - iZZi is heaven sent!!!

---

Added on July 27, 2007, 10:45 amBrudder: Yes its real dude. Go check it out. Three of my friends and I already using it for over a week in Kelana Jaya. Trust me, it is super, I mean really super. We surf from home, in the car and in the park in Kelana. All cafe outlets can surf also, no need to go Star Bucks anymore. The signal more than 95% and access super fast compared to Streamyx and Star Bucks snail paced WiFi.
Expensive, wat lah u talking. Go buy Maxis 3G or Celcom, then tell me whether its expensive. Hey dude - you get a "4G" card free man and it really works. My friend used Maxis 3G for over a year, and complained shitless about it. Does not work and poor coverage some more. I tell u dude, for surf freaks like us - iZZi is heaven sent!!!






This post has been edited by OziBurst: Jul 27 2007, 10:45 AM

nice try, but as far as wireless broadband is concern i am not buying whatever you said.
stop talking and promote your product here, come and paste the speedtest.net and ping results.

LOL. Gosh, OziBurst. You sure are funny.

First, you say that you're using their Desktop package (iZZiPro). Furthermore, you claim that the iZZiPro desktop modem can act like a hotspot at home... last I checked on iZZi's website, that unit does not have built-in WiFi. But of course, you said that you haven't tried it yet. So I'm wondering how you managed to bring your notebook out of the house? Unlike the ZTE HSDPA modem provided by Maxis or Jaring's SOMA port, iZZiPro's modem does not have a battery pack... or does it?

Next, you claim to be using their PC Card UT too (iZZiOne)!!! Wow... so in the end, you're paying for two packages?? That's RM95 + RM125 = RM220 every month. Not bad... you're paying more than Maxis 3G users. *LOL*

Clever rich man you are.

caught OziBurst with his pants down

95%? Lol-ed. They get my ass burning when I asked for a Setapak Area availability. I thought they only cover connection but not at full speed.

My ass, Setapak is nearest to KL edi, but still no connection to that area. So how come they said cover 95% Klang Valley ha? Klang their head. Valley my ass.

well i support you.. hey OziBurst what about the ping/trace to major servers around the world and also
the bt downloading rate and etc ? show us the stuff dont just talk "cock", its people like you that that gives problem to society, reminds me of my friend who is doing MLM believe blind blind.. now suffering finding money, i wonder what happen to his so called M3/M5 that we want to get after working 1 year..

clever rich.. or just plain stupid, some people want to cheat/con/lie hello check your consistancy of lies also la..
no of izzi stuff is wified...

more rather than his undies in his mouth

hahahaa their coverage map cannot believe one that is "optimal" coverage based on calculation, but "real" its much lesses coverage area...

---

Added on July 27, 2007, 3:57 pmhi OziBurst,

please know that customers now days are not the stupid and naive, show us some hard facts about the quality of service..

apart from that you say you can pay it easily with credit-card 0% installment..
what about students who don't have card ? pay with their realrewards/bonuslink card ?
duh ?

if your an employee of izzinet, and i'm your manager i will fire you cause your dumb..

This post has been edited by JinXXX: Jul 27 2007, 03:57 PM

oh yeah! Forgot to add... their iZZiPro modem purportedly functions only if you connect via USB port. The Ethernet port doesn't work. (According to a user comment here: http://forum.mypdacafe.com/viewtopic.php?t=16336) SO!! There's no way you can hook up a WiFi access point to this modem, right?

I dunno what's with that 95% thingy. Coverage 95%. Signal strength also 95%.

BTW, am told that indoor coverage may not be that good. Esp. if you're using their iZZiOne or iZZiYou UT. E.g., >70% signal strength outdoors but 0% indoors. Hope a genuine user can verify this claim.

OziBurst is trying so hard to sell his company's products! The more he posts, the less credibility he has, and by extension, his company. I think by now almost everyone here has given up with this company.

When I went to their "roadshow" in Digital Mall recently, I discovered that:

(1) they are not sure how to hook up a router to their IzziPro unit through the Ethernet port. They claim only a few router brands/models work with the unit. Having done my research, I do not think this is the case, but I'm not posting my findings here as I don't do marketing for them

(2) I asked them to bring the unit further indoors into the mall to test the signal. I got all sorts of excuses for them not being able to do so. I suspect the main reason being that once inside a building, you lose the signal totally. This means that you would need to be next to a window or opening to use this service. And the PC Card and USB devices don't come with external antenna, so this probably makes their reception much worse compared to the IzziPro model (although the PC Card and USB devices have external antenna ports, no antenna is available yet, according to the Izzi folks there, and they couldn't give me a timeframe on when this would be available)

Never ever try new stuff from Made-in-Malaysia. Unless u wanna be their "tikus putih".

Even the new Proton that they launched is still under beta.

Hi All Think I've found the right site to get some advice on bband. Any recommendation on a good bband service in KL area? Currently on 3G...but finds it a bit expensive and crappy except in certain areas...

Thanks in advance, ya'll.

it's TMNUT....what other choice do we have ...

Wow! Stunning! Reading through all these mail, it's crystal clear that Malaysians are so satisfied with their current broadband offerings, such that any new service is immediately dismissed as rubbish, EVEN WHEN NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS ACTUALLY TRIED IT HAS COMPLAINED.

Of course, we need to discount rave reviews of dubious nature...

... but will some *real* Izzy users, please stand up?

well nobody wants to waste money on a company that doesn't have "Credibility" yet., since we are like wasting alot of money on tm's suckass service
so i guess everybody needs extra money to save for the rainy days

apart from that they should provide 30 days demo like maxis then at least people will at least try it out..
where is a forum user by OziBurt, all we want is simple screenshots/ping time/traces to major servers(popular one both local and int)/ but it seems that she/he can't seem to provide it yet, nevermind we all will wait and see

Thanks, Shahjees... but TMNUT = Streamyx? Sorry.. i'm quite new to all these

---

Added on July 30, 2007, 1:24 amlow has a good point also... some ppl like myself get rather sceptical especially after reading all the comments from the experts here. And faced with a dilemma for lack of choices. But also understand M'sians get suckered into many empty promises which left us in dumps and wallets dry I guess many inrastructures in our M'sia is still in infancy as a developing nation and we often adopt the "Thy neighbor is always better" outlook. It's good actually - that shows we are not a contented bunch and always strive for better things. Maybe we should give some 'dark horses'a break and give them time to walk their talk...

I'm no political or business campaigner... i promise. Just a working dude making a simple living and trying to save hard-earned $$ by getting a decent, afforable internet connection for work, self improvement and intreraction...

Maybe I'll take one for the community and give this izi darkhorse a try....

This post has been edited by DEC: Jul 30 2007, 01:24 AM

why i never heard of this company?
i better stick with my jaring.

my number 1 question when it comes 2 this new crap is:

CAN I BT AT F1 SPEED 4 THE WHOLE FCKING DAY 24/7?

My friend living in Bandar Sunway is currently using iZZi.... When to his house and check it up the other day... The speed not bad, better than streamyx. Thinking of getting one myself... Too much i'm living in Puchong. Still no coverage... Call them up today... Say they are covering puchong very soon...

yes, please do!! then post your traceroutes and ping results here, along with signal strength/SNRs.

yes, you too!! don't forget to post a review here once you've got your service. I thought I read over here that there's already coverage in Puchong... dunno which part of Puchong though.

Yay. We got two potential users (who, coincidently, are new to LYN forum... "Welcome!!") who might be willing to review the Izzi service for us.

Interesting thread with interesting err...posters. How come there's suddenly an influx of new members who have nothing but good things to say about the service? More shill marketing?

I dunno about you folks, but this thread is beginning to smell rather fishy to me...

BTW, no one has actually suggested what sites to trace route to? Or ping?

Peoploids,

The Izzi website has been updated with their new roadshow venues. Their webdesigners should be tortured to death for not including a plain HTML version of their update instead of pure Flash bitmap, which makes reading the fine print a goddam nightmare....

FAR MORE INTERESTINGLY...

1) They are offering a MONEY-BACK GUARANTEE. The minuscule text reads (I think) "Not happy with Izzi's service? No questions asked refund with the return of '4G' card in good working condition. 7 days 100% refund. 3 months 75% refund. 6 months 50% refund." Purleez someone with a scanning electron microscope verify these figures....

2) There's a signup promotion with chances to win stuff (including a beemer).

...looks like I'm in. Signup by this weekend....

Since much skepticism re: the performance of the service in "real-life-human-being-not-sweet-talking-marketing-employee" hands, CAN ALL FORUM PEOPLOIDS PLEASE COME UP WITH YOUR LIST OF BENCHMARKS/TESTS/LOCATIONS and I will try (TRY-AH!!! NOT PROMISE!! Anyone flame me on this I will f***ing mess you up!!) to get it done and post results.

I'm not such a newbie on this forum, and you can verify my credentials on ancient Jaring newsgroup postings. (geez! noone trusts nobody nomore.....)

Hmm... seems nice... interested, but donno which package is the best... seems that the PRO is the more stable one.. but donno lah ... never try, anyone have try it?, if the service is good maybe i can consider for 1 year contract, as long i can use on my office and home also, but i donno if area ampang / tasik tambahan area are in coverage, jaring SOMA also tak sampai kat tasik ni... but i really interested over the streamyx that kadang2 macam weird je... sewa bulanan talifon pon sampai RM5X... belum masuk streamyx... nampak macam mencekik darah

i think the best one is the one where we can attach an external antenna then we can fix a 15db bi-directional outdoor antenna for super signal boost

If 1k plus2 you can get Celcom 3G datacard with HSPDA 1 year upfront subscription.

UPDATE ON IZZI:

Just came back from their booth at "our home base" Low Yat Plaza, where I found out:

1) Their "no-interest" deal is only using MBf Cards for now, with RHB and HSBC "coming soon". The also mention StanChart and Public Bank some time in the future. This is far from a comprehensive list of popular credit cards.

2) Their supposed-Money Back Guarantee works like this:

A) ALL REFUNDS SUBJECT TO RM180 "ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGES" - This is crapola as the Activation Fee is only RM82.

B) For the "FULL REFUND" as stated above, the CONDITIONS are as follows:
- No coverage at the place of resident(sic) or work place
- Usage of <3Mb of download - Come on-lah!!! How the heck to test a service with less than 3 MB!!
- Return of full set of user Terminals and accessories in working condition (the ONLY reasonable condition, IMHO)

C) For cancellation of subscription between 8 days and 90 days, they refund 9 months subscription (reasonable)

D) For cancellation of subscription between 91 days and 180 days, they refund 6 months subscription (also reasonable).

Tested their bandwidth at Low Yat - got approx 500Kbps (that's kilobits per sec, NOT BYTES) using their IzziPRO desktop terminal. Location was smack centre, Ground Floor, in the middle of an computer/notebook promo. I would imagine quite bad interference, so OK-lah.

The only good news: Both the PCMCIA and the USB models have external antenna connectors. They don't have their own, but say that many third party antennas can be found, some even at Low Yat.

..... BOTTOM LINE: KIV at least until they get their packaging right.

---

Added on August 1, 2007, 5:29 pmAND ANOTHER THING.....

With their current packaging, you would supposedly pay RM88, RM98 or RM118 a month to get the PCMCIA, USB or Desktop Terminals respectively. The price difference has to come from the different prices of the User Terminals (UTs).

I would understand if you would have to pay "extra" for a more expensive UT for one or even two years. However, they way they have done things, you would pay extra *FOREVER* for a different terminal, even through the throughput is EXACTLY THE SAME!

What-lah-wei.

This post has been edited by lowkl: Aug 1 2007, 05:29 PM

Sounds like it was a total letdown, from the way you put it. Here are some additional observations.

Firstly, coverage/reception quality of the access devices. They conveniently left out what are "good" and "bad" coverage areas from their original website (it's still active, which in my opinion, is errr...not a good thing from a marketing standpoint). I quote content from the relevant webpage below:

Bottom line if you read carefully - it's highly recommended to place the device next to a window sill; otherwise you won't get good reception which means your surfing experience will be badly affected.

Here's the relevant webpage.. This website may also contain things within it that is not present in the current website; browse at your leisure to see what else has been conveniently left out.

Secondly, the type of antenna used. In fact, all three devices allow the attachment of external antenna. I don't know what connector is in use though, it's too small and the specifications of the cards/devices don't mention antenna connector type. I suspect it could be of the MMCX/MC Card family. It's doubtful that you could use a standard wifi antenna operating at 2.4Ghz to use on these devices which operate on 1.79Ghz, the frequency difference, while small, may be significant enough to negate any improvement in signal reception. Ever wondered why you don't just hook up your spare Astro dish to your wifi device to boost reception? Yes, I know, not a fair comparison, but you get the idea. So, be careful rushing out there to get any antenna hoping it will work with the devices.

Thirdly, they do business through their resellers, not direct with the customer. This makes taking them to whatever tribunal or court difficult if you decide legal action is necessary. The contract is between you and the reseller (typically just an IT shop that makes some "buta" commissions). Therefore the refund process will also travel through the reseller, then onto Izzi for them to process. Too many potential bottlenecks and hurdles, if you ask me; where the process can fail.

Fourthly, the way it was described to me, after a year, the device is all yours. Renewal packages come in a minimum of 3-month periods, that is, their renewal period packages are for 3 months, 6 months, and 12 months if I was told correctly. Therefore, whatever device you end up buying shouldn't affect renewal cost since you already paid for the device; therefore renewal rates must be the same for all three devices. This is unless they're telling untruths again.

Their main selling point and main target market appears to be expatriates, anyone who's rich enough to try and people who are just so desperate that they will try anything having experienced the "greatest" that the alternative broadband providers have to offer. Why? Easy - because you pay your money, you take the device home, you switch it on, and immediately can begin surfing. No need to apply and pay recurring charges for telephone lines, etc.

And people seem to be harping on the point of "they don't throttle P2P at the moment" (search elsewhere in the forum). They have already explicitly stated that they will shape P2P traffic, so it's only a matter of time. They have also specifically stated that they will terminate the services of anyone who is a heavy downloader and/or uploader, although what "heavy" means can only, I suspect, be interpreted in a court of law since the T&Cs are so vague.

Caveat emptor, as I always say to my friends.

time telekom webit, GO Lightspeed Broadband Sdn Bhd,
we have all seen them coming and then going off just as quick ...

look at izzinet package and you know its doomed from day one!

3G still the best.

How so?

And after 4 pages and some rave "real" user experiences, not one single soul has actually posted any latency information

where is OziBurst hiding now? busted!!

LOL. true... true...

Here are some candies for you guys to chew on...

Traceroutes:


ping to next hop:


ping to google.com:


speedtest.net:


These tests were done outdoors, in Puchong, using their PCMCIA card. Signal strength was on the order of "Excellent" (i.e., 80%-100%, according to their utility software). In fact, signal strength was consistently 100% for 90% of the time.

My initial attempt to get connected indoors with the PCMCIA card failed. No coverage... Will need to find a location that's closer to one of their base stations... if only I know where they are!!

Oh!! And I had a great time playing with my car's power windows... wind down window = get connected. wind up window = no connection. Looks like tinted windows are a no-no. There goes the mobility function....

I also wanna point out that they're using PPPoE for user authentication. So, a dialer needs to be configured on the PC.

---

Added on August 3, 2007, 12:48 amseriously, you expecting him to come back here with a posting, after all the humiliation he suffered?

Chances are, he's probably resurrected himself and going by another username already. hehe

Oh whatever..

This post has been edited by husagi: Aug 3 2007, 12:48 AM

husagi, you signed up in spite of what's been said? I'm flabbergasted! You must have well-off benefactors! Mind introducing them to me?

Anyway, back to the topic.



Like I said, when buying property, it's all about location, location, location. With wireless broadband, it's all about signal reception quality, more signal reception quality, and even more signal reception quality! PC Cards with built in antennae are notoriously bad for reception; in my wifi experience, anything with an external antenna beats anything with a built in antenna, given the same chipset. I guess it's the same here. I can only imagine what would have happened if it started to rain while you were in the midst of doing your testing though. The mind boggles; the imagination's running riot

So, lemme say it again - you gotta be next to a window or open unobstructed area to get good reception, just like UMTS signals. The deeper you go into a built up structure, the higher the chances of no reception.

Even if you were in a location nearer to their base stations, I doubt it will improve things significantly. And I have yet to determine how safe it is to be near one of their transmission antennae I have no wish to end up "ammunition-less"

And they claim about being connected even while moving at 100km/h? Hhhhmmmmppphhh...I'd like to see that! Maybe they mean in a convertible. Oh yeah, how nice it would be driving around in a convertible showing everyone you're surfing while travelling at 100km/h, especially during monsoon season. Seriously, this should never have been a selling point for the service



Ah yes, now this would give all of us some idea on how to hook up their IzziPro product to a wired/wireless router, right? And they claim only a select few brands/models work with their IzziPro product, a claim which I took with a whole bucketload of salt when I heard it. And they insisted that they will not do support for customers wishing to share their connection - it's up to the customer to experiment and get it to work (I happened to read their internal training manual - I asked so many questions which they weren't able to answer during the roadshow that they just took out the damned training manual and showed it to me. It was around two inches thick )

I would like to see more input from Husagi on the 4G technology in Malaysia (this is like doing a final year project....).

[quote=husagi,Aug 3 2007, 12:33 AM]
LOL. true... true...

Here are some candies for you guys to chew on...


Traceroutes:

[/quote]

well i guess that is the interconnect with the international side or it their own international router hmm wonder why..

[quote]
speedtest.net:

[quote]
shoulden't the line be 1mbps , and if i'm not mistaken 1mbps = 100KB/s but your getting about 250KB/s which is like 1/4 of what you subscriber, damn that even worst/badder then streamyx 70% ratio

hopefully on the next try/test/ping/etc etc the figure will be better...

[QUOTE]

These tests were done outdoors, in Puchong, using their PCMCIA card. Signal strength was on the order of "Excellent" (i.e., 80%-100%, according to their utility software). In fact, signal strength was consistently 100% for 90% of the time.

My initial attempt to get connected indoors with the PCMCIA card failed. No coverage... Will need to find a location that's closer to one of their base stations... if only I know where they are!!

Oh!! And I had a great time playing with my car's power windows... wind down window = get connected. wind up window = no connection. Looks like tinted windows are a no-no. There goes the mobility function....

I also wanna point out that they're using PPPoE for user authentication. So, a dialer needs to be configured on the PC.
[/QUOTE]

if i'm not mistaken the PCMCIA card has a "lobang" to affix an external antenna right ?, maybe you can fix one outside and cable it to the inside of your home..

it seems the "total mobility" has been paralyzed lol

anyway i congrats you for providing us all this valuable information, hopefully the connection will be better in the next few months then we can chuck streamyx away

Izzi.Net this dude is the first one to show result hopefully the discussion will become something good , unlike screamx deaf ears

[QUOTE]

---

Added on August 3, 2007, 12:48 am
seriously, you expecting him to come back here with a posting, after all the humiliation he suffered?

Chances are, he's probably resurrected himself and going by another username already. hehe

Oh whatever..

[/quote]

well he's so nice defending izzi net, the fun just started please come back

This post has been edited by JinXXX: Aug 3 2007, 10:02 AM

HECK.... NO!!!! I borrowed...

Ah... perhaps... perhaps... hehe

No contest there. You're most probably right. The point that I wanted to prove was that their PC Cards (and by extension, their USB cards too) do face problems with indoor coverage.

LOL. Given that the reception was very strong where I was running the tests, I'd say that the base station could have been nearby. I.e., <3km away. Moreover, I was sitting at an elevated ground with very little obstruction -- i.e., direct LOS to the base station. Ironically, when I relocated to another place (*ahem* my house) that was around 500m away from the initial location (still on fairly elevated ground) but no LOS since signal has to propagate through a few rows of houses, I lost coverage completely even though I was outdoors.

And another weird thing I experienced... when I put my notebook on top of my car, located no more than 100m from where I ran my tests, signal strength kept flip-flopping between 100% and 0%! The PPPoE dialer couldn't even establish a connection with their server. Seems as if the transmitting signals from the PC Card being reflected off my car rooftop was causing a lot of problems... *shrugs*

Err... won't literally any router with built-in PPPoE support work then?

OMG. Wow... Either they're freshies or you were very hard on them.

That hop #9 router is indeed an international router (VSN), which is one of AIMS's uplink provider.


Errr.... readers... be careful there. It's not kB/s, but kb/s (or kbps). So, yes, I was getting a mere quarter of what I'm supposed to get, despite having such strong signals.

I've yet to confirm the connector type. It could very well be MCX. Lemme verify that tonight with my GPS connector or my trusty ole Lucent Orinoco if I can still find it! (hopefully, I won't forget. hehe) BTW, external antennas for this iBurst won't be so easy to source for. Will have to custom build one, I reckon. Perhaps, I can somehow scrounge for a GSM 1800 whip antenna....

This post has been edited by husagi: Aug 3 2007, 12:01 PM