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post Jul 10 2007, 02:07 PM, updated 18y ago

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For extra info on iBurst, go here
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New broadband service

KUALA LUMPUR: Local company iZZinet Sdn Bhd has just introduced its mobile wireless broadband service. 

Using iBurst technology from Kyocera, the service offers 1-megabit per second access speed for RM88 a month.

Users have to sign up for a one-year contract and get a free modem. The service covers Kuala Lumpur, Petaling Jaya, Shah Alam, Cheras and Ampang.
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QUOTE(rajulkabir @ Jul 10 2007, 03:42 PM)
Good news about them is that they do not seem to be connected through TMnet, so their connection to the rest of the world might not suck:

traceroute to izzi.com.my (116.206.0.37), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets
1  10.255.255.253 (10.255.255.253)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
2  vl-993.gw-core-a.whn.oneandone.net (217.160.229.45)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
3  ae-0-0.bb-a.tla.nyc.us.oneandone.net (217.160.229.65)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
4  nyk-b1-link.telia.net (213.248.95.69)  0 ms  0 ms  0 ms
5  nyk-bb1-link.telia.net (80.91.250.162)  1 ms  1 ms  1 ms
6  ash-bb1-link.telia.net (213.248.83.22)  6 ms  6 ms  6 ms
7  p16-1-2-2.r21.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.8.97)  6 ms  6 ms  6 ms
8  ae-0.r20.asbnva01.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.16) [MPLS: Label 680441 Exp 0]  6 ms  6 ms  6 ms
9  as-0.r20.snjsca04.us.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.21) [MPLS: Label 307415 Exp 0]  72 ms  71 ms  72 ms
10  as-2.r20.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.2.35) [MPLS: Label 327416 Exp 0]  185 ms  185 ms  186 ms
11  ae-0.r01.tokyjp01.jp.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.3.70) [MPLS: Label 363538 Exp 0]  191 ms  186 ms  186 ms
12  p4-2-1-0.r00.kslrml01.my.bb.gin.ntt.net (129.250.4.90)  296 ms  339 ms  296 ms
13  ge-0-0-0.a00.kslrml01.my.ra.gin.ntt.net (129.250.16.58)  297 ms  338 ms  296 ms
14  203.78.193.78 (203.78.193.78)  290 ms  292 ms  290 ms
15  202.76.224.14 (202.76.224.14)  292 ms  276 ms  287 ms
16  202.76.224.33 (202.76.224.33)  275 ms  285 ms  275 ms
17  202.76.239.20 (202.76.239.20)  278 ms  277 ms  278 ms
18  116.206.0.2 (116.206.0.2)  277 ms  277 ms  281 ms
19  * * *

Bad news is that it's wireless.
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well we can't say.. maybe their website is hosted in some datacenter aka ntt ? i presume seeing traces 7 to 13.. tongue.gif

hehehe but their wireless service's backbone might be NTT if its really NTT then it will be DAMN DAMN GOOD i think...
anybody care to correct me if i'm wrong tongue.gif
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post Jul 10 2007, 03:54 PM

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yup, if their backbone as in internally izzi's network can support
then no problem but then again there is the part about throttling and etc.. tongue.gif

and the international backbone that they are using..
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post Jul 10 2007, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(kels83 @ Jul 10 2007, 04:18 PM)
they will still all stick in KL before implement to other state  blush.gif
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well thats true i've check the coverage areas seems GOOD, but as we know wireless have "loop-holes" hehhe tongue.gif

did anybody went to digital mall section 14pj and check out their road show ??


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QUOTE(kels83 @ Jul 10 2007, 04:36 PM)
coverage area arh? haiz... no eye see

see those Jaring(old ISP) broadband still only in KL, wimax, ... ALL IN KL!

this arh... if want them to implement to malacca or jb side.. maybe gonna wait 2020... dunno all those isp stick in KL for what
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well you should be lucky.. since KL fella will be the one to be cheated of their money first..
so in a way you should be thank full tongue.gif

hopefully when it reaches your place the network isn't saturated lol tongue.gif
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post Jul 11 2007, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(hannajoy @ Jul 11 2007, 02:00 AM)
Just to add a little.

They don't serve you directly but instead you need to go through their authorized service providers which is where you'll get your hardware from and made payment to. Actually at the price that they are charging, it probably makes more sense if you go for the Celcom / Maxis 3G plans as you'll be able to get Internet access in more coverage area than these guys.

These guys would need to improve on the price points and go for the monthly payment scheme if they want to get critical mass. Whatever their intentions (testing the market or whatever) are, I'm sure that they'll need a minimum number of subscribers in order to break even unless they have huge piggy banks to spend on.

The rich guys / real mobile users would likely sign up for Maxis / Celcom 3G packages. I don't think anyone is that stupid to go for a service which such limited coverage.
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well for mobile network eg maxis/celcom/digi, the best you can get that matches with wireless will be HSPDA where by the coverage isn't well everywhere.. i'm staying like 5 mins away from KL and i dont have HSPDA in my area the only fastest i can get is EDGE rclxub.gif ,

but we still need to see their terms eg "unlimited" = unlimited ?, and also bandwidth consistancy factor..
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QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jul 11 2007, 11:02 AM)
I smell fishy. Will it be a TMNUT child company?? Using other name to mask their presences.
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i don't think this company is a tmnut child company
its own by a company called mobif...
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post Jul 18 2007, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeroty @ Jul 18 2007, 06:41 PM)
hey! they changed the details on the website:

Annual Package Price (include 12months subscription, activation fee and Free UT)  for RM 1,138.00.

Its cheap, no nid to purchase the UT, which cost 1000++.

btw, anyone went the digital mall n see the roadshow?
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well it depends on how you calculate cheap.. not many of us can pay one shot the whole year's subscription fees tongue.gif

nope didn't went to the road show yet..

ps: of all placed they do it in digital mall rclxub.gif do some place more accessible la eg One Utama /Curve/Midvalley..
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post Jul 19 2007, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(husagi @ Jul 19 2007, 10:29 AM)
Two possible reasons why they ask for 1 year advanced payment...

a) it's to "quickly" recover the cost of their access device. Which, in turn, implies that their funding is... um... "tight".

b) or, perhaps, like I had mentioned earlier, they don't want too many takers just yet... which implies, they're still "trialing" their service.

Either way, doesn't sound good. And that's sad.
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well at least we sort of have an alternative isp that covers most of kl...
so the least we can do is stop b****ing about it and try it out..
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QUOTE(OziBurst @ Jul 20 2007, 10:17 AM)
Remarkable gizmo - this iBurst 4G card. Used it on the run in Australia and was so satified with its connection reliability, great speed and amazing mobility, no hesitation subscribing to one when heard about it in Malaysia. Best pricing compared to 3G and Celcom. RM1,138 compared to more than RM2,500 for the competition. Plug and play, no waiting time.

So far so good when using it around KL city, I even downloaded a Christina Aquilera video and watched her sexy moves while waiting for my Sar Ho Fun in a coffee shop in Petaling street, but not so great in PJ, but otherwise cant complain. Told by the company they will have the whole of Klang Valley covered by end August.

Also easy payment scheme if paid by credit card. Zero interest for 12 months instalments meaning I dun have to pay my bank back for 12 months with no interest charged and best yet, you get their "4G" card free. Beats Streamyx anytime anywhere.
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hmm you seem more like a marketing agent then a real poster...

can you show up some ping time to major server/services on the net
and also some of the traces.. and also some download max speed and some avg bt speed would be good...
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QUOTE(ihsan @ Jul 22 2007, 03:40 PM)
and the bad news is that it appears that by looking at various internet route servers, they are single-homed to global transit aka aims. that's a recipe for a service f-up in case of a gt outage.
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well nothing is perfect at first.. hopefully along the line things will change for the better ?
unlike our so called screamyx tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2007, 08:26 PM

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well guess the truth is out and i can say .. izzi.. time to close shop tongue.gif
that's the worst statement that you can put, what the point of broadband when you can't broadband, using broadband applications aka p2p ?

other points to consider

1. suspend/terminate high bandwidth users
2. no statement regarding quality of service
3. no statement/info regarding iburst techology * we can just google this*
4. affected by rain/weather and etc or not..
5. no point subscribering.. since its wireless it will always have "wireless" loopholes
6. good luck, most of the subscriber of this site have made up their mind and well if there are those who subscribe, means your taking in desperate customers
7. no news/information about investment on your backbone and capacity support..

another company that will kick the bucket soon sad.gif next..
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QUOTE(shahjees @ Jul 27 2007, 01:29 PM)
nice try, but as far as wireless broadband is concern i am not buying whatever you said.
stop talking and promote your product here, come and paste the speedtest.net and ping results.
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well i support you.. hey OziBurst what about the ping/trace to major servers around the world and also
the bt downloading rate and etc ? show us the stuff dont just talk "cock", its people like you that that gives problem to society, reminds me of my friend who is doing MLM believe blind blind.. now suffering finding money, i wonder what happen to his so called M3/M5 that we want to get after working 1 year..

QUOTE(husagi @ Jul 27 2007, 02:20 PM)
LOL. Gosh, OziBurst. You sure are funny.

First, you say that you're using their Desktop package (iZZiPro). Furthermore, you claim that the iZZiPro desktop modem can act like a hotspot at home... last I checked on iZZi's website, that unit does not have built-in WiFi. But of course, you said that you haven't tried it yet. So I'm wondering how you managed to bring your notebook out of the house? Unlike the ZTE HSDPA modem provided by Maxis or Jaring's SOMA port, iZZiPro's modem does not have a battery pack... or does it?

Next, you claim to be using their PC Card UT too (iZZiOne)!!! Wow... so in the end, you're paying for two packages?? That's RM95 + RM125 = RM220 every month. Not bad... you're paying more than Maxis 3G users. *LOL*

Clever rich man you are.  rclxms.gif
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clever rich.. or just plain stupid, some people want to cheat/con/lie hello check your consistancy of lies also la.. tongue.gif
no of izzi stuff is wified...

QUOTE(shahjees @ Jul 27 2007, 03:14 PM)
caught OziBurst with his pants down  doh.gif
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more rather than his undies in his mouth tongue.gif

QUOTE(temptation1314 @ Jul 27 2007, 03:38 PM)
95%? Lol-ed. They get my ass burning when I asked for a Setapak Area availability. I thought they only cover connection but not at full speed.

My ass, Setapak is nearest to KL edi, but still no connection to that area. So how come they said cover 95% Klang Valley ha? Klang their head. Valley my ass. tongue.gif
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hahahaa their coverage map cannot believe one that is "optimal" coverage based on calculation, but "real" its much lesses coverage area...


Added on July 27, 2007, 3:57 pmhi OziBurst,

please know that customers now days are not the stupid and naive, show us some hard facts about the quality of service.. tongue.gif

apart from that you say you can pay it easily with credit-card 0% installment..
what about students who don't have card ? pay with their realrewards/bonuslink card ?
duh ?

if your an employee of izzinet, and i'm your manager i will fire you cause your dumb.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Jul 29 2007, 07:34 PM)
Wow! Stunning! Reading through all these mail, it's crystal clear that Malaysians are so satisfied with their current broadband offerings, such that any new service is immediately dismissed as rubbish, EVEN WHEN NOT A SINGLE PERSON WHO HAS ACTUALLY TRIED IT HAS COMPLAINED.

Of course, we need to discount rave reviews of dubious nature...

... but will some *real* Izzy users, please stand up?
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well nobody wants to waste money on a company that doesn't have "Credibility" yet., since we are like wasting alot of money on tm's suckass service
so i guess everybody needs extra money to save for the rainy days tongue.gif

apart from that they should provide 30 days demo like maxis then at least people will at least try it out..
where is a forum user by OziBurt, all we want is simple screenshots/ping time/traces to major servers(popular one both local and int)/ but it seems that she/he can't seem to provide it yet, nevermind we all will wait and see tongue.gif
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i think the best one is the one where we can attach an external antenna tongue.gif then we can fix a 15db bi-directional outdoor antenna for super signal boost tongue.gif


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[quote=husagi,Aug 3 2007, 12:33 AM]
LOL. true... true...

Here are some candies for you guys to chew on...


Traceroutes:
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well i guess that is the interconnect with the international side or it their own international router tongue.gif hmm wonder why.. tongue.gif

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speedtest.net:
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shoulden't the line be 1mbps , and if i'm not mistaken 1mbps = 100KB/s but your getting about 250KB/s which is like 1/4 of what you subscriber, damn that even worst/badder then streamyx 70% ratio tongue.gif

hopefully on the next try/test/ping/etc etc the figure will be better...

[QUOTE]

These tests were done outdoors, in Puchong, using their PCMCIA card. Signal strength was on the order of "Excellent" (i.e., 80%-100%, according to their utility software). In fact, signal strength was consistently 100% for 90% of the time.

My initial attempt to get connected indoors with the PCMCIA card failed. No coverage... tongue.gif Will need to find a location that's closer to one of their base stations... if only I know where they are!!

Oh!! And I had a great time playing with my car's power windows... wind down window = get connected. wind up window = no connection. Looks like tinted windows are a no-no. There goes the mobility function.... doh.gif

I also wanna point out that they're using PPPoE for user authentication. So, a dialer needs to be configured on the PC.
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if i'm not mistaken the PCMCIA card has a "lobang" to affix an external antenna right ?, maybe you can fix one outside and cable it to the inside of your home.. tongue.gif

it seems the "total mobility" has been paralyzed tongue.gif lol

anyway i congrats you for providing us all this valuable information, hopefully the connection will be better in the next few months then we can chuck streamyx away tongue.gif

Izzi.Net this dude is the first one to show result hopefully the discussion will become something good tongue.gif, unlike screamx deaf ears tongue.gif

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Added on August 3, 2007, 12:48 am
seriously, you expecting him to come back here with a posting, after all the humiliation he suffered? tongue.gif

Chances are, he's probably resurrected himself and going by another username already. hehe

Oh whatever..
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well he's so nice defending izzi net, the fun just started please come back drool.gif thumbup.gif

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QUOTE(husagi @ Aug 3 2007, 11:48 AM)
Errr.... readers... be careful there. It's not kB/s, but kb/s (or kbps). So, yes, I was getting a mere quarter of what I'm supposed to get, despite having such strong signals.


I've yet to confirm the connector type. It could very well be MCX. Lemme verify that tonight with my GPS connector or my trusty ole Lucent Orinoco if I can still find it! (hopefully, I won't forget. hehe) smile.gif BTW, external antennas for this iBurst won't be so easy to source for. Will have to custom build one, I reckon. Perhaps, I can somehow scrounge for a GSM 1800 whip antenna....  rclxub.gif
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well sorry about that guess i didn't convert the 250kbps to KB/s tongue.gif my bad my bad tongue.gif biggrin.gif ,
i'm not sure whats the connector is called but its DAMN SMALL tongue.gif

will ordinary GSM based external antenna work ? btw what iburst runing on i mean the spectrum last i heard is was on some 2.5Ghz range or something like that.. maybe we can check with kyocera for the technical spec.. tongue.gif



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QUOTE(husagi @ Aug 6 2007, 01:38 PM)
Final note: I don't think I'll be doing further testing on iBurst after today since I'm returning the card to its rightful owner. Hope this is helpful to those who are curious/interested in their service.
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hey great job, the info you provided was much more than what any of us expect, but like you said 3 test/3 locations speed was never more than 250kb/s.. i think that tells us a lot in term of their bandwidth/stability, but like you said
with time it might improve..

anybody know who metrofon peers with(directly) in malaysia ??

its august and its about 4 or 5 months to WIMAX launch in december, any "stories" on wimax development other than they all agree to share the tower/infrastructure doh.gif , and that most fiber is controlled by tm cry.gif

husagi, GREAT JOB smile.gif
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QUOTE(husagi @ Aug 8 2007, 06:59 PM)
Well... we'll never know unless they can somehow, miraculously, increase their subscriber take-up rate.  whistling.gif

No users = no capacity overload  brows.gif
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so if you want the best speed and all its better to subscribe early and use it tongue.gif then terminate it after 1 year cause more subscriber and move on to the next available isp tongue.gif

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QUOTE(samueler @ Aug 9 2007, 12:10 PM)
You're assuming they have sufficient capacity for you to sign up and maximise the usage of the service.  What if they don't?  You'll be wasting one whole year's of subcription just to test something that very few people have had positive experience with  wink.gif  Looking at the bandwidth tests done by husagi, are you really going to be happy with 250kbps? laugh.gif
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well maybe it will improve *hoping*...

"who know maybe today its 250..tomorrow you try its 1mbps",

read it as it was russel peter's, china dude joke

QUOTE(t3ngf0ung @ Aug 10 2007, 05:03 PM)
I was planning to go to apply iZZiPro tonight at asashi Desa Setapak. But after I read this whole thread, I feel so sad and dissapointed  sad.gif
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well don't be let down by us, cause more of us haven't tried and there a just a small hand full of users using, who knows your place the service might be better.. since alot of students in that area tongue.gif

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