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From previous thread...

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ST Kinetics Proposed Terrex 3 for British Army's MIV
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The ST Kinetics Terrex 3 was displayed for the first time at DVD 2016. It is one of the likely runners for the British Army's MIV 8x8 requirement. (photo : Jane's)

Bidders line up for British Army's MIV 8x8 requirement

Contenders for the British Army's Mechanised Infantry Vehicle (MIV) requirement were out in force at Defence Vehicle Dynamics (DVD) 2016 at Millbrook Proving Ground on 7 and 8 September.

MIV will be an 8x8 procured off-the-shelf and fitted with a minimum number of UK sourced sub-systems such as remote weapon station, communications, battle management system and seating. According to David Russell, MIV Team Leader "MIV is now in the concept phase" and with "the team building up rapidly".

Potential contenders that showed up at DVD 2016 were the Finnish Patria Armoured Modular Vehicle (AMV) and the latest AMV XP variant, the French Nexter Systems VBCI, Singapore Technologies Kinetics Terrex 3, the ARTEC Boxer, and from General Dynamics (GD) the Piranha 5 and General Dynamics Land Systems LAV. GD could also be in a position to offer the Stryker double-V-hull (SDVH), the LAV 6.0 or the LAV 700 depending on the UK requirements.

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MIV is a 'Category A' programme and the acquisition strategy is now being firmed up.

While no numbers are available it is expected that between 300 and 350 MIV would be required with a potential initial operating capability of 2023. The vehicles will in part equip two battalions from within the new 'Strike Brigades' that the army is to form, these brigades will also include the Ajax tracked reconnaissance vehicle.

In addition to the baseline protected mobility (PM) variant of MIV (MIV-PM), other versions including a command and control (MIV-CC), ambulance (MIV-A), repair (MIV-REP) and recovery (MIV-REC) are also planned.

The baseline MIV is planned to be fitted with a Kongsberg Protector RWS armed with a 12.7 mm (.50 cal) machine gun although there is potential version with a heavier armament.
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From previous thread...

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Indonesian Army Leopard 2RI MBT live firing test. Credit to owl_hoot.

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Armored Su-34 Will Become a 'Revolutionary' Ground Support Aircraft

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If the Su-34 is to turn into a genuine close air support aircraft, it will have to be able to confidently enter into the range of portable surface-to-air missiles, anti-aircraft guns and enemy small arms fire, the analyst noted. "For this reason, the Su-34 will need armor plates to protect the flight deck, engines, fuel tanks and flight control systems. The dome cabin and its front window must also be armored."
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The plates of this armor, according to Vasilescu, will require the use of 15-30 mm titanium, nylon-coated to stop explosive fragmentation. The aircraft will need to be capable of withstanding armor-piercing projectiles and explosives between 23 and 57 mm.
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Meanwhile, the analyst noted, the Su-34 already has advanced electronic countermeasures against MANPADS and short-range radar-guided missiles. This system consists of the L-150 Pastel radar warning system, APP-50 decoy flare launchers and the KNIRTI SPS-171/L005S electronic countermeasure system, the latter mounted on the plane's topside.
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In addition, the aircraft has a multi-target, passive electronically scanned array forward radar, enabling it to 'hunt' for enemy aircraft and equipment at a range of between 200-250 km. The plane is also equipped with rearward-facing radar, and can be equipped with the M402 Pika side-looking radar. In addition, its L175V/KS418, Digital RF Memory-equipped jamming system allows it to be used as a battlefield jammer.
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Vasilescu emphasized that when it comes to aircraft armor design and testing, "that's not so difficult for the Russians, given the successful experience with the Su-25's armor. The Su-25 has a length of 15.5 m, a 14.3 m wingspan and a height of 4.8 m, while the Su-34 is 23.3 m long, 14.7 m wide and has a height of 6.1 m."
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Accordingly, the "Su-34's armor will weigh between 800 and 1,000 kg, as opposed to that of the Su-25, which weighs 500 kg. The process will be completed in 2018, when the first group of 12 Su-34s will become operational for ground attack missions."
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Among the other benefits of an armored Su-34 is its capability to climb and cruise at heights between 8,000 and 12,000 m, allowing the pilot to familiarize himself with the tactical situation on the ground with the help of onboard sensors before swooping down for attack.
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"The selection and continuous monitoring of selected targets is done using airborne radar and the Platan electro-optical targeting system, mounted on the fuselage. It is equipped with a laser target market which measures the distance to the target using laser telemetry."
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The armored Su-34 is expected to carry out attacks on ground targets from heights between 1,000 to 3,000 meters, using small 50kg bombs, air-ground anti-tank missiles, S-5 rockets, as well as rounds from the onboard GSH-30-1 30 mm cannon.


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Polish Leopard 2PL Demonstrator.

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Armored Su-34 Will Become a 'Revolutionary' Ground Support Aircraft

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Royal Thai Army Huey helicopter crash-landed in Narathiwat province, 4 injured

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All four crewmen were injured when their Vietnam-era Huey helicopter crash-landed at a special forces base in Narathiwat province on Friday morning as it arrived to pick up two senior officers for an inspection flight.

The UH-1H is from the army's helicopter division in Lop Buri. It crash-landed at the Narathiwat special unit base in Muang Narathiwat district about 8.30am.

Officials said the hydraulic system broke down and the helicopter spiralled rapidly to the ground, where it exploded and caught fire.

The blaze was quickly extinguished. The four crew all escaped with minor injuries.


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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Sep 16 2016, 12:01 PM)
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Thank you for notifying me about this. I have updated the links accordingly.
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i know there is possibility of navy getting prc ships
ima fine on getting their hulls but not their weapons/sensor/radar

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Indonesian president watches failed firings of Chinese-made C-705 missiles at naval exercise

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-Attempts to launch C-705 missiles from two Indonesian warships during an exercise has failed
-Failures come against the backdrop of increased spending on Chinese-made weapon systems by Jakarta


The Indonesian Navy's (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL's) attempt to successfully launch Chinese-made C-705 anti-ship missiles from two indigenously built attack craft during a major naval exercise has failed, sources from within the service informed IHS Jane's on 15 September.

The missiles, which were deployed onboard the KCR-40-class missile attack craft KRI Clurit (641) and KRI Kujang (642), each failed at different stages of their launches on 14 September.

Clurit and Kujang each fired a single C-705 missile during Exercise 'Armada Jaya' 2016 which was conducted in the Java Sea.

Both attempts were made in full view of Indonesian President Joko Widodo who was there to witness the exercise from onboard the landing platform dock ship KRI Banjarmasin (592). Accompanying him was TNI-AL chief Admiral Ade Supandi, and Indonesian Armed Forces (TNI) chief General Gatot Nurmantyo.

According to TNI-AL sources, the first C-705 deployed on Clurit failed to launch upon command, but fired unexpectedly about five minutes later after the ship's crew failed to observe a misfire procedure.

The missile failed to hit its designated target for the exercise, the recently decommissioned Tisza-class auxiliary support ship, Karimata (960). The second C-705 missile, which was fired from Kujang , failed during mid-flight, and subsequently also failed to hit the same target.

http://www.janes.com/article/63815/indones...-naval-exercise


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i know there is possibility of navy getting prc ships
ima fine on getting their hulls but not their weapons/sensor/radar
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 17 2016, 06:43 PM)
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The Janes article is not entirely correct.

1. Only KRI Clurit fired the missile. KRI Kujang did not fired any missile.
2. KRI Clurit did not fired the missile unexpectedly. The countdown by the KRI Clurit commander to launch the missile can be seen from the video below. Credit to babycebong.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2j32ydk&s=9#.V90oYjilbHx

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 17 2016, 07:31 PM)
The Janes article is not entirely correct.

1. Only KRI Clurit fired the missile. KRI Kujang did not fired any missile.
2. KRI Clurit did not fired the missile unexpectedly. The countdown by the KRI Clurit commander to launch the missile can be seen from the video below. Credit to babycebong.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2j32ydk&s=9#.V90oYjilbHx

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looks like a very2 conflicting reports from several local sources which then got quoted by janes
after researching it looks like the kri clurit indeed launches the c-705 missile but failed in mid-flight
and the kri kujang was tasked as the backup launcher in case the first launch didnt succeed but did not launch its c-705 missile
as for the second c-705 missile failure it seems the report stemmed from the sut torpedo failure launched by the kri ajak
and for some reason the launch of c-802 missile from kri layang was cancelled

wonder why the erroneous reporting even though the event was hugely covered by the media?

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Sep 17 2016, 09:17 PM)
looks like a very2 conflicting reports from several local sources which then got quoted by janes
after researching it looks like the kri clurit indeed launches the c-705 missile but failed in mid-flight
and the kri kujang was tasked as the backup launcher in case the first launch didnt succeed but did not launch its c-705 missile
as for the second c-705 missile failure it seems the report stemmed from the sut torpedo failure launched by the kri ajak
and for some reason the launch of c-802 missile from kri layang was cancelled

wonder why the erroneous reporting even though the event was hugely covered by the media?
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AFAIK the target ex-KRI Karimata was sunk by the torpedo sut.

All medias were on the LPD KRI Banjarmasin together with Jokowi. So they don't know what actually was happening inside KRI Clurit. For medias a bad news is a good news.


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Indonesia's PT Pindad and Saab collaborate on air defence

Jon Grevatt, Bangkok - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
16 September 2016
 
State-owned Indonesian defence company PT Pindad has joined forces with Saab to collaborate on offering the Swedish company's Ground Based Air Defence (GBAD) system to the Indonesian Ministry of Defense (MoD).

PT Pindad said on 15 September that the collaborative programme will focus on adhering to the requirements laid out in Indonesia's Defence Industry Law 2012 (also known as Law 16), which obliges foreign contractors to engage with local companies in producing, supplying, and maintaining imported products.

The two companies recently held a workshop at PT Pindad's facilities in Bandung to outline their proposal to the MoD and the Indonesian National Armed Forces (Tentara Nasional Indonesia: TNI).


http://www.janes.com/article/63878/indones...-on-air-defence


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Jane‘s have controversial with china military leader also with internet fans ... that why always report bad think on china.

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 17 2016, 10:29 PM)
AFAIK the target ex-KRI Karimata was sunk by the torpedo sut.

All medias were on the LPD KRI Banjarmasin together with Jokowi. So they don't know what actually was happening inside KRI Clurit. For medias a bad news is a good news.
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any official sources on the exercise result? i dunno which one is true anymore
i know there is selective journalism but this is pure blatant lie already sweat.gif
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any official sources on the exercise result? i dunno which one is true anymore
i know there is selective journalism but this is pure blatant lie already  sweat.gif
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One thing is true though, the missile fail
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any official sources on the exercise result? i dunno which one is true anymore
i know there is selective journalism but this is pure blatant lie already  sweat.gif
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The Indonesian Navy still evaluating the missile test.

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One thing is true though, the missile fail
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That is why need more live firing exercise. There is no guarrantees that every missiles launched will hit it's target. Even the Harpoon missile fired from the LCS USS Coronado failed to hit the target during RIMPAC 2016.

LCS Missile Shoot Is ‘Successful’ — But a Miss

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Norwegian hostage freed by al Qaeda-linked group in Philippines


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MANILA: A Norwegian man held hostage by the al Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf Islamist militant group in the southern Philippines since September last year was freed on Saturday, Philippine officials said.

The group seized Kjartan Sekkingstad from an upscale resort on Samal island in Davao del Norte along with a Filipina, who has already been freed, and two Canadians, whom the militants later executed.

Abu Sayyaf, based in the south of the mainly Roman Catholic Philippines, is known for kidnappings, beheadings and extortion. It had initially demanded one billion pesos (US$21 million) each for the detainees, but it later lowered the ransom to 300 million pesos each.

The group released Sekkingstad in the town of Patikul in the Sulu Archipelago and he is now in the custody of Nur Misuari, founder of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), in the regional capital Jolo, said Jesus Dureza, a peace adviser to the Philippines' president.

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Sekkingstad had been due to meet President Rodrigo Duterte later on Saturday but the meeting was cancelled due to bad weather.

"His first words when I spoke to him on the phone (were): "Thank you to President Duterte," Dureza said in a statement. "His release from captivity capped months of quiet, patient but determined efforts with the assistance of all sectors."

Major Filemon Tan, spokesman of the military's Western Mindanao Command, said the release of Sekkingstad was the result of "intense" military operations against the Abu Sayyaf
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Tan also credited the MNLF for helping the government in seeking the release of the Norwegian.

In Oslo, the government welcomed the development but remained cautious, noting that Sekkingstad was not yet in government custody.

"We are still working on this and we will not rejoice until Sekkingstad is safe and sound with Philippine authorities," Norwegian foreign minister Boerge Brende said in an emailed statement to Reuters, adding that "it would likely happen tomorrow".

"We are following the situation closely and are working together Philippine authorities to bring Sekkkingstad to safety," he said.

Abu Sayyaf beheaded the two Canadians it seized last year with Sekkingstad, the first one in April and the other in June, after a deadline for the payment of ransom money lapsed. The Filipina victim was released in June.

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It was unclear whether a ransom had been paid in exchange for Sekkingstad's freedom, but it is widely believed that no captives are released by the group without it.

Security experts say brokers, messengers and go-betweens are involved at multiple levels, some taking substantial cuts. Payments are euphemistically called "board and lodgings".

The group has made tens of millions of dollars from ransom money since it was formed in the 1990s, security experts say, channelling it into guns, grenade launchers, high-powered boats and modern equipment.

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SHAH ALAM: You Win Some, You Lose Some. In the previous post, we discussed about the possibility of the RMN getting more hulls, specifically China-made warships. Several readers suggested that there wasn’t not enough funds for RMN to get its cake and eat it too.

While its true that maintaining a bunch of old ships is hard on the RMN, its operational budget has really taken a beating since it started operating the submarines. And its RMK11 development budget is being consumed by the LCS.

The 15-to-5 plan – it is claimed – will solve the operational budget issue by reducing the hull types from the current 15 to five. However, I do not think this will solve the issue completely as the RMN still needs a higher operational budget.

If the plan is approve and the RMN gets more hulls, its imperative its gets higher operational budget, otherwise it cannot afford to operate the ships!

But how is the RMN going to get new hulls – whether or not based on the 15-to-5 plan – when the development budget has been consumed by the LCS? Well, you win some, you lose some.

In my post,Five Things We Are Getting in RMK11, I wrote that the RMN ASW helicopters has been green-lighted.

"The project to equip the RMN with six ASW helicopters was supposed to be funded in RMK10. However it was deferred. Fortunately it has now been revealed that the project had been approved for RMK11"

Industry sources have told me that since the emphasis is for RMN to get more more hulls, it is likely that the ASW helicopters funding would be diverted to the project instead.

Whether or not this will mean that it’s getting the two C28A corvette or four LMS we discussed previously, is beyond me at the moment, however.

And there are moves to get the ASW helicopter project off the ground, most likely by upgrading them.

"At DSA 2016, Global Komited Sdn Bhd signed an agreement with Finmeccanica for the promotion, marketing and distribution of AW159 naval helicopters to the Malaysian government. The agreement also covers the upgrade of the current Super Lynx helicopters in service with RMN."

I have been told that apart from buying new build ASW helicopters, RMN Super Lynx could be upgraded with ASW equipment instead. The upgrading route is being pursued although an industry source told me that fitting the Super Lynx with ASW equipment will be an expensive and tedious affair.

Several local industry sources however disputed this saying it was just a smoke screen for us to buy new build helicopters. They insisted upgrading the Super Lynx helicopters for ASW was a viable project although the OEM was not so keen about it.

Furthermore, by turning the ASW program into an upgrade project, will result in it being funded by the operational budget. Whatever, the case, the project has been shelved – for the moment at least – as the intention is now to get more hulls for the RMN, ASAP.

You win some, you lose some.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/you-win-some-you-lose-some/

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 17 2016, 07:31 PM)
The Janes article is not entirely correct.

1. Only KRI Clurit fired the missile. KRI Kujang did not fired any missile.
2. KRI Clurit did not fired the missile unexpectedly. The countdown by the KRI Clurit commander to launch the missile can be seen from the video below. Credit to babycebong.

http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2j32ydk&s=9#.V90oYjilbHx

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It seems miss fire from this video..macet..
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from defense pakistan, simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module,so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance


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The news is Wrong, just One Indonesian Navy ship that shot C-705 Missile "KRI Clurit"

Why there is delay, when C-705 launching?
Because there is Communication problem between KRI Banjarmasin that President Joko Widodo boarded and KRI Clurit that shot C-705 Missile.
The crew in "KRI Clurit" doesn't know, when our President Mr.Joko Widodo starting count down.

Why C-705 Missile miss the target?
Just answer it by yourself.
The Target ship is 50 Kilometers (30 nm) away from "KRI Clurit"
but Radar sensor in "KRI Clurit" is SR-47A with Max range 40 Kilometers.
So ........ We can get the answer :-)
That's why Datalink is so Important in Modern naval warfare.
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:21 PM)
from defense pakistan, simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module,so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

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i dont think they have started production yet on the locally made c-705
earliest local c-705 production will only start 2017 or 2018
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It seems miss fire from this video..macet..
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It can't be helped. Navies usually costs a lot more than any other service branches to arm and maintain. Even US military allocates nearly half of all its $ 600 Billion USD resources to the US Navy alone.


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Army $244.9 billion 31.8%
Marine Corps $40.6 billion 4% Total Budget taken allotted from Department of Navy
Navy $379.8 billion 43.4% Excluding Marine Corps
Air Force $170.6 billion 22%

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If want good Navy, you have to dump massive amounts of money on it, no choice.

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Actually the explanation is very amateurish, if target at 50km and radar at maximum range at 40km, does not make sense to fire it during a live firing for the president.

Also have to note that there will also be China contractors on watch to check the live firing.


QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:21 PM)
from defense pakistan, simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module,so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:21 PM)
from defense pakistan, simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module,so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

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It would be a whole new level of incompetency to fire a missile without a lock from the targeting system doh.gif so I don't think this is the explanation
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The Syrian military on Sunday said one of its war planes had been downed in the eastern Syrian city of Deir al-Zor during an operation against Islamic state, where the militant group has been under intense air strikes in the past 24 hours.

The jet came down in the Jebel Tharda area which overlooks the government's Deir al Zor military airport, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, which monitors the Syrian conflict now in its sixth year, said.

On Saturday U.S.-led coalition air strikes reportedly killed dozens of Syrian soldiers in Jebel Tharda, endangering a U.S.-Russian brokered ceasefire and prompting an emergency U.N. Security Council meeting as tensions between Moscow and Washington escalated.

A Syrian military statement said the plane had come down during an operation against Islamic State in Deir al-Zor and the pilot had died.

Islamic State-affiliated media said it had shot the jet down.


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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Sep 19 2016, 07:57 AM)
Actually the explanation is very amateurish, if target at 50km and radar at maximum range at 40km, does not make sense to fire it during a live firing for the president.

Also have to note that there will also be China contractors on watch to check the live firing.
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It easier to say the fire control radar fail to lock on last minutes given that the ship is moving.

Or the missile terminal guidance system faill to lock on and self destruct in mid flight due to no target aquired.


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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 19 2016, 08:46 AM)
It easier to say the fire control radar fail to lock on last minutes given that the ship is moving.

Or the missile terminal guidance system faill to lock on and self destruct in mid flight due to no target aquired.
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Or maybe the system or cpu hang..
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It would be a whole new level of incompetency to fire a missile without a lock from the targeting system doh.gif so I don't think this is the explanation
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means indo navy no network datalink linked, so just depend own ship radar provide guidance.
if look it is low cost ship, it should be possible.
in other forum said C-705 indo spec without include GPS/baidu module.

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Or maybe the system or cpu hang..
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Most likely communication module, signal drop or delays.

It more common to have signal drop or delay than cpu hangs
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:30 AM)
means indo navy no network datalink linked, so just depend own ship radar provide guidance. 
if look it is low cost ship, it should be possible.
in other forum said C-705 indo spec without include GPS/baidu module.
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Even if dont have, it should have build in inertia guidance to at least guide it to last know position in case radar guidnace is lost before the missle terminal guidance switch on.

Tak kan indo so cheapsake until inertia guidance module also want to omit.
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'Murica, in a nutshell. Blatant patriotism, 24-7 surveillance, militarized police and fat dudes. laugh.gif
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With over 30 years of officially being labelled as the Great Satan by the Muslim world, and the source of their grudge extending all the way back to 1945, they have no choice.

QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 19 2016, 10:02 AM)
Even if dont have, it should have build in inertia guidance to at least guide it to last know position in case radar guidnace is lost before the missle terminal guidance switch on.

Tak kan indo so cheapsake until inertia guidance module also want to omit.
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I dunno, is inertial guidance module very common now? my brain still stuck in Cold War era where inertial guidance is "SO HIGH TECH" laugh.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:30 AM)
means indo navy no network datalink linked, so just depend own ship radar provide guidance. 
if look it is low cost ship, it should be possible.
in other forum said C-705 indo spec without include GPS/baidu module.
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I'm not talking about network link, which I assume is beyond the capability of these cheapo China antiship missiles. I'm saying it seems quite ridiculous that anyone would fire a guided missile without the onboard targeting system actually acquiring the target, which would be the case if it was out of range. I mean surely even if its some kind of cheapo targeting system, if the target is 50km out when firing a 40km missile, there must be a big sign on the system that says OUT OF RANGE.... rolleyes.gif

....maybe it was written in Chinese doh.gif doh.gif
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With over 30 years of officially being labelled as the Great Satan by the Muslim world, and the source of their grudge extending all the way back to 1945, they have no choice.
I dunno, is inertial guidance module very common now? my brain still stuck in Cold War era where inertial guidance is "SO HIGH TECH" laugh.gif
I'm not talking about network link, which I assume is beyond the capability of these cheapo China antiship missiles. I'm saying it seems quite ridiculous that anyone would fire a guided missile without the onboard targeting system actually acquiring the target, which would be the case if it was out of range. I mean surely even if its some kind of cheapo targeting system, if the target is 50km out when it firing a 40km missile, there must be a big sign on the system that says OUT OF RANGE.... rolleyes.gif

....maybe it was written in Chinese doh.gif doh.gif
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Now it just a electronic module. No longer those gimbal mounted systems. It quite common nowdays in case gps signal lost, inertia guidance take over temporary before gps signal is regain.

Even civil aircraft have backup inertia guidance just in case gps spoil or etc
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:18 AM)
I dunno, is inertial guidance module very common now? my brain still stuck in Cold War era where inertial guidance is "SO HIGH TECH" laugh.gif
I'm not talking about network link, which I assume is beyond the capability of these cheapo China antiship missiles. I'm saying it seems quite ridiculous that anyone would fire a guided missile without the onboard targeting system actually acquiring the target, which would be the case if it was out of range. I mean surely even if its some kind of cheapo targeting system, if the target is 50km out when firing a 40km missile, there must be a big sign on the system that says OUT OF RANGE.... rolleyes.gif
....maybe it was written in Chinese doh.gif doh.gif
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C-705 have 140km range。

QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 19 2016, 10:36 AM)
Now it just a electronic module. No longer those gimbal mounted systems. It quite common nowdays in case gps signal lost, inertia guidance take over temporary before gps signal is regain.

Even civil aircraft have backup inertia guidance just in case gps spoil or etc
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just see wiki, C-705 have Radar seeker too,but not sure how operator set the target. and what range of missile radar seeker.
is posible Indo navy operater still lack of training ?
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 19 2016, 11:00 AM)
C-705 have 140km range。
just see wiki, C-705 have Radar seeker too,but not sure how operator set the target. and what range of missile radar seeker.
is posible Indo navy operater still lack of training ?
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The radar seeker if like majority anti'ship missiles will only activate near terminal phase to pinpoint and lock on targets. Similar to how excocet works.

I doubt the tat small radar onboard the missile have ranges beyond 10km given it small size and power
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Today I learned: Britain planned a D-Day assault on Malaya with 100,000 soldiers

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Planned landing beaches of Operation Zipper

After British has successfully beaten back the Japanese Army in Burma, plans were drawn up by Lord Mountbatten to invade Malaya and eventually liberate Singapore from the Japanese. The plan was split up into three stages, the landing operation (Operation Zipper), the drive south towards Singapore (Operation Mailfist) and the drive north to clear peninsular Malaya up to the Thai border (Operation Broadsword).

The landing operation, Operation Zipper, was to be launched in September 1945. It called for a large task force headed by the Battleship HMS Nelson and 2 escort carriers (HMS Attacker and HMS Hunter) to launch from India and Burma. Air support from 500 aircraft based in Burma, Ceylon and Cocos Islands was also arranged. The plan was for the landing force to land near Port Swettenham (Port Klang) and Port Dickson and secure them as staging areas for further operations. Two Divisions of Commonwealth troops and a Brigade of British Troops totaling nearly 50,000 men were allocated for the landing force. Japanese resistance was expected to be light to medium. A diversionary operation by Force 136, led by Tun Ibrahim Ismail were to launch attacks to try and convince the Japanese that any landings will be conducted on the Kra Isthmus, north of Malaya.

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The Battleship HMS Nelson

The drive south towards Singapore, Operation Mailfist, was to be launched after the landing force has succesfully secured their objectives, scheduled as December 1945. Two further Commonwealth troops Divisions and a British Brigade are to be landed as soon as the port is secured and advance south through the Malayan Peninsula to liberate Singapore. The plan was to advance south through the coastal plains with Naval fire support provided by the Battleship and air support from the two escort carriers. Planning timetables expected the offensive would reach Singapore on March 1946. Two Monitors (MHS Roberts and HMS Abercrombie), special bombardment ships with two 15-inch cannons each were to bombard Japanese defences on Singapore Island in a preparatory operation.

The drive north to secure the Malayan peninsula, Operation Broadsword, was to be conducted simultaneously as Operation Mailfist. Smaller resources were allocated for this operation as Japanese defences were expected to concentrate on defending Singapore and only light resistance is expected elsewhere. Further operations to secure the peninsula's East Coast and recapture Northern Borneo would later be planned with US support from the Philippines.

In the end, Operation Zipper was rendered moot by the Japanese surrender in August 1945, after the dropping of the US Atomic bombs on Japan. As the the invasion task force has not fully assembled yet at the time, a small detachment sailed towards Singapore to secure it from the surrendered Japanese Army under Operation Tiderace. After parts of the fleet landed to secure North and central Malaya (Penang island and Morib beach) a force led by the Heavy cruiser HMS Sussex landed unopposed on Keppel Harbor.

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A memorial indicating the landing of 46th Indian Beach group on Morib beach, part of Operation Tiderace

During the afternoon of 9 September, General Sheishiro Itagaki, accompanied by Vice Admiral Shigeru Fukudome and his aides, were brought aboard HMS Sussex in Keppel Harbour to discuss the surrender. They were received by Lieutenant-General Sir Philip Christison and Major-General Robert Mansergh. By 1800 hours, the Japanese had surrendered their forces on the island. An estimated 77,000 Japanese troops from Singapore surrendered, plus another 26,000 from Malaya.

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Formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia. Lord Mountbatten is seated in the center of the allied delegates, in his white Royal Navy uniform.

The formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia was signed on 12 September at Singapore City Hall. Lord Mountbatten arrived in Singapore to personally receive the articles of Japanese Surrender from General Itagaki. Thus ended the Japanese occupation of South East Asia.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 11:59 AM)
Today I learned: Britain planned a D-Day assault on Malaya with 100,000 soldiers

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Planned landing beaches of Operation Zipper

After British has successfully beaten back the Japanese Army in Burma, plans were drawn up by Lord Mountbatten to invade Malaya and eventually liberate Singapore from the Japanese. The plan was split up into three stages, the landing operation (Operation Zipper), the drive south towards Singapore (Operation Mailfist) and the drive north to clear peninsular Malaya up to the Thai border (Operation Broadsword).

The landing operation, Operation Zipper, was to be launched in September 1945. It called for a large task force headed by the Battleship HMS Nelson and 2 escort carriers (HMS Attacker and HMS Hunter) to launch from India and Burma. Air support from 500 aircraft based in Burma, Ceylon and Cocos Islands was also arranged. The plan was for the landing force to land near Port Swettenham (Port Klang) and Port Dickson and secure them as staging areas for  further operations. Two Divisions of Commonwealth troops and a Brigade of British Troops totaling nearly 50,000 men were allocated for the landing force. Japanese resistance was expected to be light to medium. A diversionary operation by Force 136, led by Tun Ibrahim Ismail were to launch attacks to try and convince the Japanese that any landings will be conducted on the Kra Isthmus, north of Malaya.

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The Battleship HMS Nelson

The drive south towards Singapore, Operation Mailfist, was to be launched after the landing force has succesfully secured their objectives, scheduled as December 1945. Two further Commonwealth troops Divisions and a British Brigade are to be landed as soon as the port is secured and advance south through the Malayan Peninsula to liberate Singapore. The plan was to advance south through the coastal plains with Naval fire support provided by the Battleship and air support from the two escort carriers. Planning timetables expected the offensive would reach Singapore on March 1946. Two Monitors (MHS Roberts and HMS Abercrombie), special bombardment ships with two 15-inch cannons each were to bombard Japanese defences on Singapore Island in a preparatory operation.

The drive north to secure the Malayan peninsula, Operation Broadsword, was to be conducted simultaneously as Operation Mailfist. Smaller resources were allocated for this operation as Japanese defences were expected to concentrate on defending Singapore and only light resistance is expected elsewhere. Further operations to secure the peninsula's East Coast and recapture Northern Borneo would later be planned with US support from the Philippines.

In the end, Operation Zipper was rendered moot by the Japanese surrender in August 1945, after the dropping of the US Atomic bombs on Japan. As the the invasion task force has not fully assembled yet at the time, a small detachment sailed towards Singapore to secure it from the surrendered Japanese Army under Operation Tiderace. After parts of the fleet landed to secure North and central Malaya (Penang island and Morib beach) a force led by the Heavy cruiser HMS Sussex landed unopposed on Keppel Harbor.

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A memorial indicating the landing of 46th Indian Beach group on Morib beach, part of Operation Tiderace

During the afternoon of 9 September, General Sheishiro Itagaki, accompanied by Vice Admiral Shigeru Fukudome and his aides, were brought aboard HMS Sussex in Keppel Harbour to discuss the surrender. They were received by Lieutenant-General Sir Philip Christison and Major-General Robert Mansergh. By 1800 hours, the Japanese had surrendered their forces on the island. An estimated 77,000 Japanese troops from Singapore surrendered, plus another 26,000 from Malaya.

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Formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia. Lord Mountbatten is seated in the center of the allied delegates, in his white Royal Navy uniform.

The formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia was signed on 12 September at Singapore City Hall. Lord Mountbatten arrived in Singapore to personally receive the articles of Japanese Surrender from General Itagaki. Thus ended the Japanese occupation of South East Asia.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 11:59 AM)
Today I learned: Britain planned a D-Day assault on Malaya with 100,000 soldiers

The drive north to secure the Malayan peninsula, Operation Broadsword, was to be conducted simultaneously as Operation Mailfist. Smaller resources were allocated for this operation as Japanese defences were expected to concentrate on defending Singapore and only light resistance is expected elsewhere. Further operations to secure the peninsula's East Coast and recapture Northern Borneo would later be planned with US support from the Philippines.
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Key point. I wonder if in some alternate reality, this actually happened. hmm.gif

If the US atomic bombs weren't dropped, Malaya would have a different history.

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QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 19 2016, 10:36 AM)
Now it just a electronic module. No longer those gimbal mounted systems. It quite common nowdays in case gps signal lost, inertia guidance take over temporary before gps signal is regain.
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Although still common for ATGMs to still have a gimbal-mounted gyro stabilization system, to keep the missile steady in flight. Whenever you hear a distinctive CHWEEEE whining sound just before an ATGM is launched, that's the gyro spinning up. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 07:41 AM)
It can't be helped. Navies usually costs a lot more than any other service branches to arm and maintain. Even US military allocates nearly half of all its $ 600 Billion USD resources to the US Navy alone.

If want good Navy, you have to dump massive amounts of money on it, no choice.
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ya, we need at lease 2% from GDP for defense budget, currently just about 1.2%+ from GDP laugh.gif
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ya, we need at lease 2% from GDP for defense budget, currently just about 1.2%+ from GDP    laugh.gif
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dont just look at % of gdp, look at % of total budget as well..
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 11:59 AM)
Today I learned: Britain planned a D-Day assault on Malaya with 100,000 soldiers

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Planned landing beaches of Operation Zipper

After British has successfully beaten back the Japanese Army in Burma, plans were drawn up by Lord Mountbatten to invade Malaya and eventually liberate Singapore from the Japanese. The plan was split up into three stages, the landing operation (Operation Zipper), the drive south towards Singapore (Operation Mailfist) and the drive north to clear peninsular Malaya up to the Thai border (Operation Broadsword).

The landing operation, Operation Zipper, was to be launched in September 1945. It called for a large task force headed by the Battleship HMS Nelson and 2 escort carriers (HMS Attacker and HMS Hunter) to launch from India and Burma. Air support from 500 aircraft based in Burma, Ceylon and Cocos Islands was also arranged. The plan was for the landing force to land near Port Swettenham (Port Klang) and Port Dickson and secure them as staging areas for  further operations. Two Divisions of Commonwealth troops and a Brigade of British Troops totaling nearly 50,000 men were allocated for the landing force. Japanese resistance was expected to be light to medium. A diversionary operation by Force 136, led by Tun Ibrahim Ismail were to launch attacks to try and convince the Japanese that any landings will be conducted on the Kra Isthmus, north of Malaya.

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The Battleship HMS Nelson

The drive south towards Singapore, Operation Mailfist, was to be launched after the landing force has succesfully secured their objectives, scheduled as December 1945. Two further Commonwealth troops Divisions and a British Brigade are to be landed as soon as the port is secured and advance south through the Malayan Peninsula to liberate Singapore. The plan was to advance south through the coastal plains with Naval fire support provided by the Battleship and air support from the two escort carriers. Planning timetables expected the offensive would reach Singapore on March 1946. Two Monitors (MHS Roberts and HMS Abercrombie), special bombardment ships with two 15-inch cannons each were to bombard Japanese defences on Singapore Island in a preparatory operation.

The drive north to secure the Malayan peninsula, Operation Broadsword, was to be conducted simultaneously as Operation Mailfist. Smaller resources were allocated for this operation as Japanese defences were expected to concentrate on defending Singapore and only light resistance is expected elsewhere. Further operations to secure the peninsula's East Coast and recapture Northern Borneo would later be planned with US support from the Philippines.

In the end, Operation Zipper was rendered moot by the Japanese surrender in August 1945, after the dropping of the US Atomic bombs on Japan. As the the invasion task force has not fully assembled yet at the time, a small detachment sailed towards Singapore to secure it from the surrendered Japanese Army under Operation Tiderace. After parts of the fleet landed to secure North and central Malaya (Penang island and Morib beach) a force led by the Heavy cruiser HMS Sussex landed unopposed on Keppel Harbor.

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A memorial indicating the landing of 46th Indian Beach group on Morib beach, part of Operation Tiderace

During the afternoon of 9 September, General Sheishiro Itagaki, accompanied by Vice Admiral Shigeru Fukudome and his aides, were brought aboard HMS Sussex in Keppel Harbour to discuss the surrender. They were received by Lieutenant-General Sir Philip Christison and Major-General Robert Mansergh. By 1800 hours, the Japanese had surrendered their forces on the island. An estimated 77,000 Japanese troops from Singapore surrendered, plus another 26,000 from Malaya.

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Formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia. Lord Mountbatten is seated in the center of the allied delegates, in his white Royal Navy uniform.

The formal surrender of Japanese forces in South East Asia was signed on 12 September at Singapore City Hall. Lord Mountbatten arrived in Singapore to personally receive the articles of Japanese Surrender from General Itagaki. Thus ended the Japanese occupation of South East Asia.
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good read. good read.

never knew the strength of Japs army in Malaya almost 100,000...i thought they have just small numbers around 30-40k at most
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Good thing much of SEA was bypassed by Allied forces...except for Pinoys and Burmese who suffered a lot
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dont just look at % of gdp, look at % of total budget as well..
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i estimated2% GDP will have about RM25 billion

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i estimated2% GDP will have about RM25 billion
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that's around 10% of total budget... seems reasonable.. but hopefully it is spent wisely without leakages



not bad...


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that's around 10% of total budget... seems reasonable.. but hopefully it is spent wisely without leakages



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L-15 must get after burn engine version to get full capability.
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A diversionary operation by Force 136, led by Tun Ibrahim Ismail were to launch attacks to try and convince the Japanese that any landings will be conducted on the Kra Isthmus, north of Malaya.
who is Tun Ibrahim Ismail? I do not recall the name from what I read about Force 136.

QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 19 2016, 08:44 PM)
Good thing much of SEA was bypassed by Allied forces...except for Pinoys and Burmese who suffered a lot
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Seeing as other than Pinoys and Burmese we are the only nation left in SEA involved in WW2, yes we were verrrrrry lucky.

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MANILA: A Norwegian man held hostage by the al Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf Islamist militant group in the southern Philippines since September last year was freed on Saturday, Philippine officials said.

The group seized Kjartan Sekkingstad from an upscale resort on Samal island in Davao del Norte along with a Filipina, who has already been freed, and two Canadians, whom the militants later executed.

Abu Sayyaf, based in the south of the mainly Roman Catholic Philippines, is known for kidnappings, beheadings and extortion. It had initially demanded one billion pesos (US$21 million) each for the detainees, but it later lowered the ransom to 300 million pesos each.

The group released Sekkingstad in the town of Patikul in the Sulu Archipelago and he is now in the custody of Nur Misuari, founder of the Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF), in the regional capital Jolo, said Jesus Dureza, a peace adviser to the Philippines' president.

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Sekkingstad had been due to meet President Rodrigo Duterte later on Saturday but the meeting was cancelled due to bad weather.

"His first words when I spoke to him on the phone (were): "Thank you to President Duterte," Dureza said in a statement. "His release from captivity capped months of quiet, patient but determined efforts with the assistance of all sectors."

Major Filemon Tan, spokesman of the military's Western Mindanao Command, said the release of Sekkingstad was the result of "intense" military operations against the Abu Sayyaf
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Tan also credited the MNLF for helping the government in seeking the release of the Norwegian.

In Oslo, the government welcomed the development but remained cautious, noting that Sekkingstad was not yet in government custody.

"We are still working on this and we will not rejoice until Sekkingstad is safe and sound with Philippine authorities," Norwegian foreign minister Boerge Brende said in an emailed statement to Reuters, adding that "it would likely happen tomorrow".

"We are following the situation closely and are working together Philippine authorities to bring Sekkkingstad to safety," he said.

Abu Sayyaf beheaded the two Canadians it seized last year with Sekkingstad, the first one in April and the other in June, after a deadline for the payment of ransom money lapsed. The Filipina victim was released in June.

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It was unclear whether a ransom had been paid in exchange for Sekkingstad's freedom, but it is widely believed that no captives are released by the group without it.

Security experts say brokers, messengers and go-betweens are involved at multiple levels, some taking substantial cuts. Payments are euphemistically called "board and lodgings".

The group has made tens of millions of dollars from ransom money since it was formed in the 1990s, security experts say, channelling it into guns, grenade launchers, high-powered boats and modern equipment.

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First word he spoke on phone was thank you to president duterte?

Why and how would he know duterte was president

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Drop in piracy in regional waters

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A concerted effort by Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore to tackle piracy and robberies in nearby waters saw the number of incidents nosedive in the first six months of the year.

The countries pumped more resources into patrol activities, and one even zeroed in on prime suspects and issued them with stiff warnings.

Their activities cut the number of such incidents in the Strait of Singapore and Strait of Malacca to just one in the first six months .

This was after a spike last year, with the number hitting 104, up from 48 in 2014, according to the Regional Cooperation Agreement on Combating Piracy and Armed Robbery against Ships in Asia (ReCAAP) Information Sharing Centre.

The Malaysian and Indonesian authorities have improved their capabilities to address such incidents, noted Dr Collin Koh, a research fellow at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies' (RSIS) maritime security programme.

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For instance, by October last year, the Royal Malaysian Navy had set up a Rapid Deployment Team to tackle crimes such as ship hijackings quickly, according to the Bernama news agency. The team consisted of two groups comprising 14 members and was equipped with two helicopters and a gunboat, an official was quoted as saying. rclxms.gif

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And in January this year, Tempo news reported that an Indonesian warship, KRI Imam Bonjol-838, had been deployed to increase Indonesia's naval patrol presence in the Strait of Malacca.

The Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore (MPA) and local enforcement agencies - the Police Coast Guard and Republic of Singapore Navy - also contributed.

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They "worked with regional enforcement authorities in Malaysia and Indonesia to deter incidents through regular sharing of intelligence and stepped up patrols", said the MPA.

The three countries also stepped up efforts to detect unregistered ships around ports, and intensified checks on ships entering and leaving ports, and this has deterred some would-be offenders, said ReCAAP deputy director Nicholas Teo.

Most of last year's robberies occurred around a privately run anchorage in the Nipa area south-west of Singapore, said Mr Tim Wilkins, regional manager for the Asia-Pacific at the International Association of Independent Tanker Owners.

There, large ships carrying oil from the Middle East often transfer it to stationary smaller tankers, which then transport it around the region. Mr Wilkins said: "There are a lot of vessels at anchor and that makes them a relatively easy target and relatively close to certain smaller Indonesian islands, where theft and robberies can be launched."

Also, during the transfer of oil, the crew of such ships are often focused on the activity and find it harder to set aside manpower to keep watch, he added.

Stern warnings to suspects in Indonesian islands were also a major factor for the improvement, noted Dr Sam Bateman, an adviser to RSIS' maritime security programme.

The majority of the cases last year took place in Indonesian waters, he said. The attacks were carried out mainly by a few gangs from villages in Pulau Karimun Besar, Pulau Batam and other Indonesian islands close to the south of the straits.

They strike when ships pass close to their islands, Dr Bateman said. In response, police tracked down the suspects with help from the villages and issued stern warnings to them. They were told to stop illegal activities or they could face arrest, Dr Bateman said.

But Mr Wilkins noted that the number of incidents of theft and robbery in the Strait of Malacca and Strait of Singapore may not be as low as reported. Some ship operators may not report crimes as it could take a day or two for investigations, potentially costing them and their customers revenue, he said.

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Category 1 incidents last year

FEB 13: LAPIN

At about 7.55pm, six to eight perpetrators armed with pistols and knives boarded the product tanker Lapin while it was anchored near Malaysia's Port Klang. They gathered the crew and took control of the tanker.

Then, a vessel came alongside and siphoned five tonnes of diesel from the tanker. The perpetrators destroyed the ship's communication devices and stole ship and crew property.

Before leaving the vessel, they tied the crew up and said an improvised explosive package was left on board and threatened the crew not to move. The crew managed to free themselves and sailed towards Thailand.

The ReCAAP Focal Point (Thailand) boarded the ship at a location north of Ko Tarutao. It reported that a Thai Explosive Ordnance Disposal team disarmed the "improvised explosive package" and found only an electric circuit with no explosive or detonator attached.

MAY 2: OCEAN ENERGY

At around 9.30pm, eight perpetrators armed with guns boarded the vessel named Ocean Energy when it was close to Malaysia's Port Dickson on its way to Myanmar from Singapore. They ordered the crew to anchor the vessel and a barge came alongside it.

The crew were locked away and 2,023 metric tonnes of fuel oil was discharged to the barge using a fuel hose and pump. After damaging the ship's communication equipment and taking the satellite phone and the crew's cash and cellphones, the perpetrators left the vessel at about 4.30am the next day. There were no injuries to the crew.

AUG 8: JOAQUIM

At about 2pm, an unknown number of perpetrators boarded the bunker tanker Joaquim when it was travelling to Langkawi, Malaysia, from Tanjung Pinang, Indonesia.

Systems on the ship that provide information on its whereabouts to the authorities were reportedly turned off.

About 3,000 metric tonnes of fuel oil was reportedly siphoned and power to the generator of the boat was reportedly cut off by the perpetrators.

The crew were safe, except for the officer responsible for navigating the ship and bunker crew who were assaulted.

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who is Tun Ibrahim Ismail? I do not recall the name from what I read about Force 136.
Seeing as other than Pinoys and Burmese we are the only nation left in SEA involved in WW2, yes we were verrrrrry lucky.
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Sad when Malaysians don't even know who he was. We should have schools named after him. sad.gif

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Tun Ibrahim Ismail, who died on 23rd December 2010 aged 88, was a Special Operations Executive officer who pulled off a daring 10-month triple-cross while a prisoner of the Japanese during the Second World War; he later went on to be head of Malaysia's armed forces.

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Published September 20, 2016 7:48am
Updated September 20, 2016 8:02am

A Liberian-registered merchant tanker on Monday night collided with a Philippine Navy vessel in Zamboanga City.

The Philippine Navy said merchant tanker Tasco, with Filipino and Ukranian crew, collided with BRP Tarlac while the naval ship was anchored 1,000 yards south of Ensign Majini Pier at Naval Station Romulo Espaldon at around 7:46 p.m.

Rear Admiral Jorge Amba, commander of Naval Forces Western Mindanao, said no one was hurt among the crew members, but the naval vessel sustained a minor damage in the right forward bulwark and side ramp.


Philippine Coast Guard Zamboanga Station commander, Lt. Junior Grade Jimmy Berbo, said guardsmen have been sent to the area to investigate.

The merchant tanker, meanwhile, was prevented from leaving pending the investigation.

The tanker was headed to Bintulo, Malaysia when the incident happened.

BRP Tarlac arrived is the first ever strategic sealift vessel of the Philippine Navy. It was recently acquired by the Philippine government as part of a P3.87-billion two-vessel contract entered into with Indonesian shipbuilder PT Pal Persero.

The naval vessel is leading the naval blockade against the Abu Sayyaf Group in Mindanao.

It serves as the command and control ship of the Philippine Navy in its operations against the bandits. —with a report from Cedric Castillo/DVM/ALG, GMA News


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DCNS Launched the First GOWIND 2500 Corvette for the Egyptian Navy
      
On September 17 2016, DCNS launched the very first GOWIND 2500 corvette for the Egyptian Navy. The float out took place at the Lorient naval shipyard one day after the launch of FREMM Bretagne for the French Navy. First steel cut of the Egyptian Navy corvette took place on April 16 2015. The delivery of the vessel is set for 2017 (less than four years after the signature of the contract).
      
Cairo signed in 2014 a EUR 1 Billion contract for the procurement of four GOWIND 25000 corvettes (plus two more as an option). The contract included the necessary technology transfer; given that DCNS’ partner Alexandria Shipyard would build three of the vessels in Egypt. Consturction of the second vessel started in April this year, in Egypt.
      
On September 17 2016, DCNS launched the very first GOWIND 2500 corvette for the Egyptian Navy. The float out took place at the Lorient naval shipyard one day after the launch of FREMM Bretagne for the French Navy. First steel cut of the Egyptian Navy corvette took place on April 16 2015. The delivery of the vessel is set for 2017 (less than four years after the signature of the contract).
      
On September 17 2016, DCNS launched the very first GOWIND 2500 corvette for the Egyptian Navy. The float out took place at the Lorient naval shipyard one day after the launch of FREMM Bretagne for the French Navy. First steel cut of the Egyptian Navy corvette took place on April 16 2015. The delivery of the vessel is set for 2017 (less than four years after the signature of the contract).
   
DCNS has already won a first GOWIND contract for the Royal Malaysian Navy, which covers the design and construction of six corvettes in Malaysia at the Boustead Naval Shipyard through technology transfer. These vessels will be classified as frigate locally as they are slightly larger than the base design.

Technical characteristics of the GOWIND 2500
According to DCNS, the GOWIND 2500 is a reference product on the worldwide corvette market. This vessel responds to the needs of navies to have access to a complete and multi-mission combat vessel for sovereignty and maritime protection operations and the fight against illicit trafficking. Ten corvettes have already been ordered by Malaysia (6 units) and Egypt (4 units).

The GOWIND 2500 is bristling with the very latest technological advances, developed and implemented by DCNS for naval defence. It incorporates the SETIS combat system, developed by DCNS for FREMM frigates and GOWIND corvettes, the “Panoramic Sensors and Intelligence Module (PSIM)” – an assembly bringing together the integrated mast with its various instruments as well as the Operational Centre and its associated technical rooms – and the high degree of integration, automation and conviviality of the DCNS systems.

Total length: 102 metres
Width: 16 metres
Displacement: 2,600 tonnes
Max. speed: 25 knots
Crew: 65 persons (helicopter detachment included)
Range: 3,700 nautical miles at 15 knots

Weapons: 8x Exocet MM40 Block 3 anti-ship missiles, 16x VL MICA surface to air missiles (both by MBDA), Torpedoes, a 76mm main gun (Oto Melara), 2x 20mm remote weapon stations and Sylena decoy launcher by Lacroix.

Sensors: Smart-S Mk2 radar, Kingklip hull mounted sonar, Captas 2 variable depth sonar, Vigile 200 Radar - ESM, Altesse Communication - ESM (all by Thales).


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The Egyptian Gowind production rate is fast. First steel cutting of the Egyptian Gowind was in April 2015 whereas the Malaysian Gowind first steel cutting was in December 2014. Maybe because of the Saudis money flow.
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our design not fully complete in 2014 if not wrong. still got final some adjustment,
also own DCNS shipyard also few time much better capability & experience than our BNS shipyard.
If our Gowind first 2 ship is built in DCNS, i believe also can launch in 2015/2016 too.
no choice, just wait 3rd 2017 for our Gowind launch.
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who is Tun Ibrahim Ismail? I do not recall the name from what I read about Force 136.
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You should read his book ' Have you met mariam ?'....
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i hear a rumor that we have underground military complex like pentagon but built inside a hill...is it true?
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you mean like Mount Cheyenne.

underground office is hardly surprising, but probably not the kind that can withstand direct nuclear strike laugh.gif
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 20 2016, 11:15 AM)
see if I can find. I wiki-ed him. Yeah sounds like he should be in Sejarah textbooks.
Also it pisses me off when people occasionally dig up Tun Abdul Razak's photo in a Japanese uniform and straightaway brand him as traitor. Meanwhile documents and testimonies from Malaysia and UK have already established him as a mole in service of the British SOE and Force 136.

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Ukraine Intends to Transfer Technology of BTR to Thailand

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KIEV -. RIA Novosti Ukraine intends to cooperate with Thailand in the field of armored vehicles and to transfer technology BTR-3E1, reported Friday on the website of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine.

The report said that the Deputy Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleg Gladkovsky met with an official delegation of Thailand's Ministry of Defence, headed by Deputy Minister of General Udomdeem Sitabutrom.

"In the context of the cooperation development prospects of the Ukrainian side confirmed its readiness to cooperate in the development of Thailand's production of armored vehicles, including armored personnel carriers BTR-3E1, with the transfer of technologies", - said in a statement.

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Gladkovsky focused on the implementation of the Ukrainian side the existing agreement for the supply of main battle tanks "Hold" and focused on the introduction of a package of measures to improve the quality and improvement of equipment and machinery, manufactured Ukrainian defense enterprises.

Thai party representatives expressed their interest in continuing cooperation and noted that they consider Ukraine as a reliable long-term partner with significant potential in the defense industrial sector.

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why Police easily get FAT
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work stress
they tend to not watch their food intake
they are fit af but ....
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which his book got written about WWII ?
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'Have you met mariam' is more likes a memoir/biography, but 75% are about wwii... there are a very detail xplanation about 'oatmeal-violin ops'... how he and 3 others only managed to land in malaya after 3rd attempt. They landed near perhentian island using RAF Catalina ...
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 20 2016, 11:15 AM)
see if I can find. I wiki-ed him. Yeah sounds like he should be in Sejarah textbooks.

you mean like Mount Cheyenne.

underground office is hardly surprising, but probably not the kind that can withstand direct nuclear strike laugh.gif
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i found it....so it called DUMB: Deep Underground Military Base

http://malaysiamilitarypower.blogspot.sg/2...itary-base.html

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'Have you met mariam' is more likes a memoir/biography, but 75% are about wwii...  there are a very detail xplanation about 'oatmeal-violin ops'... how he and 3 others only managed to land in malaya after 3rd attempt. They landed near perhentian island using RAF Catalina ...
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have you read The Jungle Is Neutral by Spencer Chapman? he was the guy in charge of Force 136 ops in Semenanjung
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ok good , will look for it, if can get digital version the best can read any time.
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btw, these are some of the pics from the book...

be warned: pic heavy
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have you read The Jungle Is Neutral by Spencer Chapman? he was the guy in charge of Force 136 ops in Semenanjung
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No. I'm going to find one...Thanks for informing me..
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The Egyptian Gowind production rate is fast. First steel cutting of the Egyptian Gowind was in April 2015 whereas the Malaysian Gowind first steel cutting was in December 2014. Maybe because of the Saudis money flow.
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Malaysia will receive it by 2019.

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have you read The Jungle Is Neutral by Spencer Chapman? he was the guy in charge of Force 136 ops in Semenanjung
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Bizarrely, aside from some early sabotage action immediately after the Japanese occupation, Chapman spent nearly all of his time desperately hiding in the jungle, evading Japanese patrols until the end of the war.
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more like reading a sci fi novel and bad photochop skills ...mehhhhh
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Bizarrely, aside from some early sabotage action immediately after the Japanese occupation, Chapman spent nearly all of his time desperately hiding in the jungle, evading Japanese patrols until the end of the war.
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his fellow angmohs were practically split up singly or in pairs. Like Op Gladio and the French Maquis, Force 136 could only hope to inconvenience the occupation forces, force the invaders to spend troops securing the rear areas and score propaganda points until a real invasion attempt can be made... and for us it was thankfully too late in the end.

Frankly most of the manpower resisting the Japanese were the chinese resistance groups, with 1 or 2 Force 136 advisors in each group. And there were plenty of cells in Singapore ofc which led to Changi Beach... but because of politics and the Communist insurgency this is de-emphasised in our history rolleyes.gif

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Frankly most of the manpower resisting the Japanese were the chinese resistance groups, with 1 or 2 Force 136 advisors in each group. And there were plenty of cells in Singapore ofc which led to Changi Beach... but because of politics and the Communist insurgency this is de-emphasised in our history rolleyes.gif
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For me, by their later infamy and misdeeds during the Darurat and Communist Insurgency era, the communist chinese resistance groups, at least, have totally negated and forfeited all the 'jasa-jasa' they have done during WW2. bye.gif

For example Chin Peng wants to be remembered as a hero who fought in WW2, but is he asking us to ignore what he did after?

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 20 2016, 04:04 PM)
his fellow angmohs were practically split up singly or in pairs. Like Op Gladio and the French Maquis, Force 136 could only hope to inconvenience the occupation forces, force the invaders to spend troops securing the rear areas and score propaganda points until a real invasion attempt can be made... and for us it was thankfully too late in the end.

Frankly most of the manpower resisting the Japanese were the chinese resistance groups, with 1 or 2 Force 136 advisors in each group. And there were plenty of cells in Singapore ofc which led to Changi Beach... but because of politics and the Communist insurgency this is de-emphasised in our history rolleyes.gif
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Anyway, old story already. The communist party had no illusions what happens after the Japanese. Same like any war torn country. Those who fight for it will fight among themselves after the war is over.
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Frankly most of the manpower resisting the Japanese were the chinese resistance groups, with 1 or 2 Force 136 advisors in each group. And there were plenty of cells in Singapore ofc which led to Changi Beach... but because of politics and the Communist insurgency this is de-emphasised in our history rolleyes.gif
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there's 2 groups actually.. those siding with the nationalist which were working with the british and the communist working with agents
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For me, by their later infamy and misdeeds during the Darurat and Communist Insurgency era, the communist chinese resistance groups, at least, have totally negated and forfeited all the 'jasa-jasa' they have done during WW2.  bye.gif

For example Chin Peng wants to be remembered as a hero who fought in WW2, but is he asking us to ignore what he did after?
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the rakyat tends to forget their so-called 'jasa2' when the commies went on a killing rampage, killing malays, chinese and indians who rejected their rule and ideology right after the japos surrendered
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Indeed... truth be told majority of people did not do anything to resist the occupation, my own ancestors included. We simply aren't the fighting type. Japs left us alone jugak (truly hard luck for Singkies tho)

And afterwards, not only did the commies rob us of money and goods, we also suffered the stigma for decades simply for being the same race as commie terrorists, so definitely to us they are KNN Commies™
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Cloak of Darkness: Russia Testing Unique Smokescreen for Armata Tanks

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The system, developed by Electromashina research and production association, is installed on Armata tanks, Kurganets and Bumerang armored vehicles and detects laser beams or oncoming missiles and fires special smoke grenades, which make the fighting vehicle invisible both to the naked eye and to infrared scopes.
“The system is currently undergoing field trials and we expect to have this work done before this year is out,” a Defense Ministry representative told the newspaper, adding that live-fire tests of the system were slated for next year.

At the heart of the new system is a computer which calculates optimal trajectories of the smoke grenades to ensure maximum smoke cover while allowing the crew to engage the enemy unhindered.

“In Europe they have tried and failed to develop such a system, while in the US they have never developed anything like our  optical-electronic system, traditionally staking on passive protection reinforcing armor, improving maneuverability  and battlefield control in order to better protect against enemy anti-tank fire,” independent military expert Oleg Zheltonozhka, told Izvestia.

The new system ensures maximum protection against the two main types of guided antitank missiles: remote-controlled and laser-guided. The former will not be able to receive radio commands, while the latter will simply fail to “see” the laser beam itself.

It will also be able to effectively handle America’s unique self-homing Javelin antitank guided missiles.


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The Enhanced Tactical Multi-Purpose grenade, or ET-MP, will be able to switch between two modes and produce two different kinds of explosions, according to Picattiny. At the same time, it brings back an older “concussive” effect absent from the U.S. Army since the 1970s.

Adjust the grenade, and the operator can select a fragmentation or concussion mode.

The ET-MP is also safer for the thrower, Picatinny Arsenal added in an announcement this week. This is because the grenade will feature an electronic fuze, or delay mechanism, unlike the M67’s mechanical fuze. To simplify, an electronic fuze is more reliable over the long term and the detonation can be timed to be extremely precise.

However, the grenade appears to be just a design at this stage, with the Pentagon committing $1.1 million in funding for the 2017 fiscal year — tiny on the scale of other military programs.


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Last July, the U.S. Navy subjected one of its newest ships, the USS Jackson, to so-called shock trials. Designed to test the ship's ability to withstand nearby underwater explosions, these test involve detonating a really big explosive charge right next to the ship. The trials, which took place off the coast of Florida, were so powerful they sent residents on shore running to the U.S. Geologic Survey to ask if an earthquake had taken place.

Now, video has emerged of the actual trials—and you can see why nearby residents were concerned.

During shock trials the Navy detonates a range of explosive charges underwater, from 2,000 pounds to 10,000 pounds. The fact that the column of water appears to rise about 50 percent higher than the 418-foot long ship suggests this was a 10,000-pound explosion.

The Navy reported that the Jackson had performed "exceptionally well" in the shock trials.

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British forces could be equipped with tiny insect-inspired drones and a laser weapon which could bring down enemy missiles in mid-air.

The science fiction style kit is being developed with a new Ministry of Defence innovation fund worth £800million over the next decade.

Defence Secretary Michael Fallon said the fund would encourage hi-tech firms to develop new 'disruptive capabilities' for the armed forces.
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Watch the U.S. Navy Nearly Blow Up Its Own Ship (on Purpose)



Last July, the U.S. Navy subjected one of its newest ships, the USS Jackson, to so-called shock trials. Designed to test the ship's ability to withstand nearby underwater explosions, these test involve detonating a really big explosive charge right next to the ship. The trials, which took place off the coast of Florida, were so powerful they sent residents on shore running to the U.S. Geologic Survey to ask if an earthquake had taken place.

Now, video has emerged of the actual trials—and you can see why nearby residents were concerned.

During shock trials the Navy detonates a range of explosive charges underwater, from 2,000 pounds to 10,000 pounds. The fact that the column of water appears to rise about 50 percent higher than the 418-foot long ship suggests this was a 10,000-pound explosion.

The Navy reported that the Jackson had performed "exceptionally well" in the shock trials.

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The crash happened shortly after takeoff at around 9 a.m. on Tuesday morning. The Air Force and Beale Air Force Base have both confirmed the crash and that two pilots ejected. Their condition is unknown.

The aircraft was assigned to the 1st Reconnaissance Squadron at Beale Air Force Base and was on a training mission, officials said.

Witnesses told KCRA’s Mike Luery that they saw two parachutes carrying people and a third carrying equipment.

The incident is under investigation. No additional information has been released.


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Two army pilots were killed in a helicopter crash that took place on Monday afternoon near El-Sheikh Gebyeel military airport in Abi Hamad located in Al-Sharqeya governorate, the army’s media office told Daily News Egypt.

“The crash killed two pilots, according to what we know so far, and ambulances and security personnel moved directly to the site of the crash to investigate the matter. The crash may be the result of a technical failure inside the helicopter,” the army’s media office clarified Monday.

Regarding details about the helicopter and the identity of the two pilots, the army’s media office noted that an official statement will be issued on the incident soon.


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The helicopter was involved in a military exercise called SARISA 2016 and crashed in the  sea region of Vrasna, Thessaloniki at around 9am.

CNN Greece reported that the two pilots managed to survive the crash.

SARISA 2016, in cooperation with US forces, began on Monday and was scheduled to continue until Friday.

A trailer was released to preview SARISA 2016 on YouTube.

There has been no comment from Greek authorities if the military exercise will continue or not after Tuesday’s incident.


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The aircraft was damaged in the accident. However, the pilot was evacuated safely.

The runway has been closed at the airport for the time being.  All  flight operations have also been cancelled for now.


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A military chopper has gone down in eastern Libya, with all the eight people on board reported dead.

On Tuesday, Colonel Ahmed al-Mesmari, the spokesman for Libya’s armed forces told Libyan news website Alwasat that the army helicopter crashed in an area 40 kilometers west of the city of Tobruk,early in the morning.

There have been conflicting reports of the number of those on board and the fatalities. The cause of the crash also remains unknown.

Mesmari said the head of the office of the Libyan armed forces’ commander in chief, Idris Younis, three crew members and four other people, who he did not identify, were abroad the ill-fated chopper.

According to the army official, the helicopter was returning from the town of Ra’s Lanuf to Tobruk.

The spokesman said no further information is available on the chopper yet, adding that a search operation is underway.


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As always, bila KYPMbangi come in, mesti ada crash. laugh.gif

Anyway the picture above is a standard U-2. A TU-2S is a pilot training aircraft, so it has 2 cockpits, like this:

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LONDON, Sept. 19 (UPI) -- Britain's Ministry of Defense has ordered miniature anti-missile jammers from Leonardo-Finmeccanica aircraft for its Typhoon fighter fleet.

The BriteCloud system will undergo flight trials on Royal Air Force Tornado aircraft later this year as the RAF develops a concept of operations for the technology before its deployment.

BriteCloud, similar in size and appearance to a beverage can, can be fired from an aircraft's flare dispenser. It then uses radar emissions to disrupt systems within radar-guided air-to-air and surface-to-air missiles.

"The cutting-edge technology behind BriteCloud demonstrates the MOD's commitment to harnessing and growing the incredible creativity in our Defense supply chain," said Defense Secretary Michael Fallon.

"Supported by our £178 billion [$231.3 billion] investment in equipment, these new decoy systems show that we are continually pushing the boundaries of innovation, making the most of Great British skills and brains to keep our Armed Forces safe from our adversaries."

The Ministry of Defense said it has been working with Leonardo-Finmeccanica to develop the BriteCloud system since 2012. Nearly $34.5 million has been invested in the system by the government.

The new contract order for the system is worth about $32.5 million.

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This all-terrain vehicle has the ability to take off from indigenous runways and transform into a light-sports aircraft using a parafoil wing. Reaching ground speeds of up to 70 mph and flight speeds of 40 mph, the SkyRunner can transport 2 occupants 240 miles, or 120 nautical miles, at an altitude of 10,000 feet.

The latest model of SkyRunner, equipped with a carbon-fiber body, will cost about $139,000.

After receiving FAA approval in June, a SkyRunner representative explained in an interview with Business Insider that they received interest and a verbal commitment from the US special forces community.

“The shocks [are what] won this particular group over,” said SkyRunner consultant Mike Mitchell. “Going off of a loading dock 4-5 feet tall … with such a soft landing was a big plus in their eyes.”

Rather than being offensively oriented, Mitchell explained that a military-grade SkyRunner would be primarily used for surveillance or recovery missions.




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BAE Systems has been awarded a long-delayed USD54 million contract to provide 32 upgraded 155 mm M109A5+ BR self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) to the Brazilian Army, the company announced on 19 September.

Brazil received 32 M109A5s to be modernised and complement 40 legacy M109A3s. (Victor Barreira)

"Production is anticipated to begin in October with vehicle deliveries beginning in 2018," BAE Systems said. "Final deliveries and the beginning of training and support in Brazil are expected to take place by the end of 2018."

The work will upgrade 32 former US Army M109A5 SPHs to an M109A5+ BR configuration for Brazil. The Foreign Military Sales deal had been stalled since a letter of offer and acceptance between the Brazilian Army and US government was signed in December 2014, but the deliveries will only be about a year later than expected under a recently revised plan.


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Similar to our deal. Wonder for us who ultimately pays and how much it will be.

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The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter's trapezoid wing was so thin and sharp, especially near the wingtip, that protective guards were put in place before ground maintenance operations to prevent ground crew from hitting it and injuring themselves. laugh.gif
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Today I learned: The Lockheed F-104 Starfighter had razor-sharp wings

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wow! never knew that. sure the wing loading would be tremendous
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Argentina current best choice will be Mirage F1 from France or opt for Pakistan / China build JF-17. Korean made K-50 just too expensive and face protest from the British
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Argentina current best choice will be Mirage F1 from France or opt for Pakistan / China build JF-17. Korean made K-50 just too expensive and face protest from the British
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French again? After what happened last time... brows.gif

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Wouldn't those be a little old?

Even Iran-Iraq and Gulf war eras Saddam used them.
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Wouldn't those be a little old?

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They don't have much choice left, either France, Pakitan / China or maybe Isreal IAI-Kfir 50 (as they almost bought it)
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what protest. Gripen maybe la bcos 1/3 use british made component but the only thing that is british in fa-50 is martin baker seat
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They don't have much choice left, either France, Pakitan / China or maybe Isreal IAI-Kfir 50 (as they almost bought it)
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for low budget prc jf17 or l15 seems to be the best deal.. probably prc will receive in return some of their soybean and hogs
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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 20 2016, 10:22 AM)
apa punya suwey Pinoy nih
dapat fighter bird strike
dpat kapal kene langgar
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apa punya suwey Pinoy nih
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org kapal ada pantang sendiri bila atas kapal. xle kencing kt bilges, xle balaih pungkoq, xle semmelih binatang pastu darah dia turun direct ke laut... ni mesti ada langgar pantang ni. tau2 je la kabayan ni. pemalas pun ada gak. suweyyy kapal!!!
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org kapal ada pantang sendiri bila atas kapal. xle kencing kt bilges, xle balaih pungkoq, xle semmelih binatang pastu darah dia turun direct ke laut... ni mesti ada langgar pantang ni. tau2 je la kabayan ni. pemalas pun ada gak. suweyyy kapal!!!
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Dorang bela apa smpi kena sembelih menatang atas kapal?huhu
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Dorang bela apa smpi kena sembelih menatang atas kapal?huhu
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both equally corrupt.. fisherman getting subsidized diesel too last time..
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for low budget prc jf17 or l15 seems to be the best deal.. probably prc will receive in return some of their soybean and hogs
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STEAK! rclxm9.gif

Nah. Argentina sembang kencang only lah*. Their budget cannot tahan it. Even if they buy they'll just become target practice for Eurofighter Typhoons brows.gif

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org kapal ada pantang sendiri bila atas kapal. xle kencing kt bilges, xle balaih pungkoq, xle semmelih binatang pastu darah dia turun direct ke laut... ni mesti ada langgar pantang ni. tau2 je la kabayan ni. pemalas pun ada gak. suweyyy kapal!!!
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STEAK! rclxm9.gif

Nah. Argentina sembang kencang only lah*. Their budget cannot tahan it. Even if they buy they'll just become target practice for Eurofighter Typhoons brows.gif

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if falkand better shore based sam and missile defense
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They have Typhoons, Rapier SAMs and Starstreak MANPADs
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By the time and IF Argentina can actually scrape up enough cash to actually mount a threat, they will also have to contend with fully operational QE2

Those JF-17s will have to go through Typhoons supported by F-35Bs and then glide bombs can be dealt with by C-RAM

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By the time and IF Argentina can actually scrape up enough cash to actually mount a threat, they will also have to contend with fully operational QE2

Those JF-17s will have to go through Typhoons supported by F-35Bs and then glide bombs can be dealt with by C-RAM

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let wait and see.
byw, i don't think Argentina will attack Falkland went QE2 is in Falkland. DQ2 will come to Falkland if Falkland take control by Argentina. affcouse QE2 will come to visit Falkland time-to-time.
also those C-RAM easy run out of ammo in 1 minutes. glide bomb just 1 type of bomb.

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nowadays impossible falkland war will happen again
last time got dictator but nowadays its more like pilak claim on sabah
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let wait and see.
byw, i don't think Argentina will attack Falkland went QE2 is in Falkland. DQ2 will come to Falkland if Falkland take control by Argentina.  affcouse QE2 will come to visit Falkland  time-to-time.
also those C-RAM easy run out of ammo in 1 minutes. glide bomb just 1 type of bomb.
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Lol Argentina don't have a chance of overtaking UK defence development from behind.

There's not much reason for QE2 to visit Falklands other than for show once or twice in the ship's career. Certainly QE2 doesn't need to station there for deterrence. If it is really committed south in response to Argentinian moves we can expect a real shooting war to break out soon.
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A fighter jet belonging to the U.S. military crashed off Japan’s Okinawa island, where the military has bases, Japanese media reported Thursday.

The plane was reported to be an AV8B Harrier II ground attack aircraft.

NHK cited Japan’s defense ministry as saying the jet crashed Thursday afternoon local time (early morning EDT Thursday), but the exact time of the incident was not known.

According to the Okinawa Times, Japanese coastguard sent a helicopter and a patrol boat to search for the plane that went down into the sea east of Okinawa shortly after taking off.


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Rafale Deal For 36 Fighter Jets Finally Sealed After Long Wait: 10 Facts

All India | Edited by Shuchi Shukla | Updated: September 23, 2016 13:11 IST

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New Delhi:  More than a decade after India decided to buy a new line of fighter aircraft for the Air Force, the government today signed the deal for 36 Rafale fighters with France.

Here are the key aspects of the deal

1. Defence Minister Manohar Parrikar and his French counterpart Jean Yves LeDrian signed the contract in Delhi on Friday after years of tortuous negotiations between the two countries.
2. India will pay about Rs. 58,000 crore or 7.8 billion Euros for 36 off-the-shelf Dassault Rafale twin-engine fighters. About 15 per cent of this cost is being paid in advance.
3. India will also get spares and weaponry, including the Meteor missile, considered among the most advanced in the world.
4. Sources tracking the final negotiations had confirmed to NDTV that the IAF's Rafales will come equipped with the Meteor designed to knock out enemy aircraft and cruise missiles significantly more than 100 km away.
5. The acquisition of this weapon is likely to be game changer in South Asia. Neither Pakistan nor China, India's traditional military adversaries, possess a weapon of the same class. 
6. The first Rafale warplanes are slated to be delivered roughly within 18 months of the signing of the final contract.
7. There is an accompanying offset clause through which France will invest 30 per cent of the 7.8 billion Euros in India's military aeronautics-related research programmes and 20 percent into local production of Rafale components.
8. The deal could not be signed this January when French President Francois Hollande was the Chief Guest for the Republic Day because India wanted a better price.
9. For the Indian Air Force, the deal is bitter-sweet. On one hand, they will be getting two squadrons of the state-of-the-art fighter, on the other hand, the original requirement was for at least 126 jets.
10. India needs at least 42 squadrons of fighters and has an existing strength of 32. The fighter fleet will go down further by about 10 squadrons as the MiG-21 fighter will have to be decommissioned.


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7.8 billion Euros for 36 off-the-shelf Dassault Rafale 

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If converted to ringgit, its about RM 1b per aircraft....  i doubt malaysia will acquired it... biggrin.gif
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you must learn detail not jut base on total number. the price is including 50% offset with TOT/IP licensing to make in India.
From total just jet if self only 3.8b for 36 unit means single unit Rafale just USD 105 milllion. out requrement only 18 unit means about 1.9b + 400mil for missile/bomb, plus , spare parts, maintenance, training, for 400 million too. hopefully if our RMAF get Rafale (if only) also include HUD module & Thales topsignt helmet . so total will below usd 3b. and we no need TOT/IP, offcouse our policy is offset is 5%.

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you must learn detail not jut base on total number. the price is including 50% offset  with TOT/IP licensing to make in India.
From total just jet if self only 3.8b for 36 unit means single unit Rafale just USD 105 milllion.  out requrement only 18 unit means about 1.9b + 400mil for missile/bomb, plus , spare parts, maintenance, training, for 400 million too.  hopefully if our RMAF get Rafale (if only) also include HUD module & Thales topsignt helmet . so total will below usd 3b. and we no need TOT/IP, offcouse our policy is offset is 5%.
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india still needs to pay 7.8b euro...

Btw, lets compare to others deal.

Egypt bought 24 units(plus package) for 5.2b euro ( 217m euro per units @ rm997m
Qatar bought 24 units(plus package)for 6.3b euro (262m euro per unit @ rm 1.2b

Comparing these deals, the amount still around rm1b per unit plus packages...
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india still needs to pay 7.8b euro...

Btw, lets compare to others deal.

Egypt bought 24 units(plus package) for 5.2b euro  ( 217m euro per units @ rm997m
Qatar bought 24 units(plus package)for  6.3b euro  (262m euro per unit @  rm 1.2b

Comparing these deals, the amount still around rm1b per unit plus packages...
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that is India,Egypt, Qatar packages
our packages much simple compare to them。
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that is India,Egypt, Qatar packages
our packages much simple compare to them。
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but IMO, the value wont differ much from these packages
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india still needs to pay 7.8b euro...

Btw, lets compare to others deal.

Egypt bought 24 units(plus package) for 5.2b euro  ( 217m euro per units @ rm997m
Qatar bought 24 units(plus package)for  6.3b euro  (262m euro per unit @  rm 1.2b

Comparing these deals, the amount still around rm1b per unit plus packages...
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China also continues to build up its coast guard and fishing fleets, which is where Indonesia directly enters the fray. Over the past five years, there have been a number of clashes between Chinese fishing vessels and the Indonesian navy over the Indonesia-owned Natuna islands, which China now also claims. As one journalist recently observed, “Beijing uses these fishing ships as a kind of militia to harass and block other nation’s vessels from accessing the vital trade routes and fishing grounds.”

Indonesians have had enough. Beginning in late 2014, led by Jokowi and Fisheries minister Susi Pudjiastuti, this island nation has taken the extraordinary step of blowing up more than 220 seized fishing vessels in public events that have sent an unmistakable message to Beijing. In June, to reinforce that show of strength, Jokowi made a high-profile visit to the Natunas.

“Taking sides on the South China Sea issue is not something we traditionally do,” a respected editor says to me. “We won’t take the U.S. side on this. But we may lean.” However, a well-connected consultant confides that “Jokowi recently told (me) in a private meeting that he is now ready to face South China Sea issues. He is interested in China now and being assertive.”


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It’s a moment tailor-made for the U.S. to strengthen relations with Jakarta. How? Three ways.

First, our next President should visit Indonesia as soon as possible, and make clear: while Obama’s focus was on expanding alliances with Japan and Korea, facilitating change in Myanmar, and improving relations with Vietnam and India, the top priority for the next four years is Indonesia. That’s especially important for Clinton, whose time as Obama’s Secretary of State left people here “skeptical of her” one insider confides. A substantive presidential visit would bolster her standing and signal that the U.S. is serious about pivoting to Indonesia.

Second, the U.S. should support Indonesia’s emerging assertiveness on South China Sea issues. That includes offering Indonesia more maritime capabilities so that it can stand up for itself at sea - including, modernized Coast Guard vessels and training. Former Minister of Defense Juwono Sudarsono believes this is something Trump would do, expressing confidence “Trump will win and he will change.”

Finally, the next Administration must articulate a creative strategy for our economic relationship that contrasts with China’s strategy of “exploit and extract.” There is a fear here that Indonesia’s growing dependence on China - it recently ranked 10th in a Forbes list of the “Top 10 China-Dependent Countries” - could compromise its assertiveness on the South China Sea. U.S. economic and business-to-business engagement should offer a vision that empowers, instead of extracts from, Indonesia. That means investing in education and development, supporting innovation and entrepreneurship, and giving Jakarta an alternative to China in its race to improve its gridlocked economy. It also means finding a way to make the proposed trade pact between the U.S. and 11 Pacific rim nations, known as the Trans-Pacific Partnership—which is projected to bring $26 billion in trade to Indonesia—work.

Lastly, no matter who wins in November, there is one thing the next President should do: invite Jokowi to visit and work to secure an invitation for him to address Congress. The last, and only, time an Indonesian leader spoke to Congress was in 1956 - when Trump was nine, Clinton was eight, and Jokowi was five years from being born. Sixty years is too long. It’s time to bring the relationship between the world’s oldest democracy and the world’s largest Muslim-majority democracy into the 21st Century—no matter who sits in the Oval Office.


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23rd September 2016 - 7:14 by Sompong Nondhasa in Bangkok

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The Royal Thai Navy (RTN) commissioned HTMS Laemsing (PGB 561), a domestically built patrol gunboat, on 21 September after sea trials.

The RTN bought its plans and materials from Marsun in a $20 million deal (excluding weapon systems). It was built by the Royal Thai Naval Dockyard to gain more experience in shipbuilding under a self-reliance policy.

The 520t vessel, launched on 25 August 2015, will cooperate with other Thai services for both anti-surface and anti-air missions. As well as these combat missions, HTMS Laemsing can intercept suspicious vessels, perform anti-piracy and antiterrorist operations, harbour security and search and rescue.

HTMS Laemsing is 58m long, and has a 9.3m beam and 2.9m draft. Three Caterpillar 3516C engines offer a maximum speed of 23kt, and it has a range of more than 2,500nm. Able to operate in Sea State 5, the vessel accommodates 53 crewmen for up to seven days. 

Armament is a refurbished OTO Melara 76/62 naval gun, 30mm MSI DS-30 cannon and two 12.7mm machine guns. Fire control and the combat management system are the Thales Mirador and TACTICOS respectively. Elbit Systems supplied the CoMPASS electro-optics.

The vessel has a wide stern deck able to install more equipment and weapons (e.g. missiles) in the future.

VAdm Sutthinan Sakulpuchapong, commander of the naval dockyard, said ‘It took 1,003 days to build HTMS Laemsing. We previously built four classes of patrol vessel, the latest being the Krabi-class OPV, so we have more experience in development and maintenance. We plan to build two more Laemsing-class boats in the future.’

The last domestically built patrol gunboat was the Hua Hin class, with three vessels entering service 15 years ago. 

The Laemsing class is expected to replace all ageing medium-range patrol boats under the navy’s 2008-17 strategic plan.


https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/imps-new...boat-thai-navy/

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Pakistani air force jet crashes, killing pilot

ISLAMABAD: A Pakistan Air Force jet crashed on Saturday while on a training mission in the country's northwest, killing the pilot, the military said.

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The F-7 aircraft went down near the town of Jamrud, near the entrance to the Khyber Pass, and Flight Lieutenant Amer Shazad was killed, the air force said in a statement.

The military has set up an investigation into the cause of the crash, which it said caused no civilian injuries on the ground.

Pakistan's armed forces have had several air accidents in the past 18 months, including a crash that killed female jet pilot in another training exercise in November.

In May 2015, a military helicopter carrying diplomats to inspect a tourism project crashed, killing seven people, including the ambassadors of Norway and Philippines.

Another military helicopter being used as an air ambulance crashed in August 2015 near the northern district of Mansehra, killing 12 people.

(Writing by Kay Johnson. Editing by Jane Merriman)

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I was digging around for further info regarding the Indian Rafale deal and came across this post. Credit to Rufus Shinra from Spacebattles Forum.
Link: Rufus Shinra original post

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* 7.8 billion Euros, of which 15 % will be paid upfront.
* Meteor is included in the deal (which, IMHO, will seriously piss off China and most importantly Pakistan, since now India can snipe Pakistanese airborne targets deep inside their territory without ever crossing the border).
* The first planes will be delivered within 18 months of the signature, and apparently will be testbeds to integrate more weapons from India's arsenal, among which... Bhramos NG, a smaller version of the high-supersonic AShM. [Rufus: I would really like for us to get a few of them.]
* 50 % offsets, 30 % investment in Indian aerospace programs and 20 % in local manufacture of Rafale spare parts.
* The plane comes with its AESA radar and the full software code.

Edit:
Out of 7.8 billion €, 1.8 are for associated supplies, 1.7 are for India-specific enhancements, 0.353 for performance-based logistics and 0.710 for the weapon package. So it seems the planes themselves, plus the code, had a cost of 3.3 billion euros, meaning less than 100 M per plane.

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SEOUL • South Korea may launch a special forces unit to assassinate the North's leader Kim Jong Un, Defence Minister Han Min Koo has said.

The unit will "take action" if North Korea shows clear signs of attacking the South, Mr Han said during a parliamentary meeting last week, the Korea Times reported.

The move, said Mr Han, is part of the "Korea Massive Punishment and Retaliation" (KMPR) plan, a military response announced after North Korea conducted its fifth nuclear test on Sept 9, in defiance of international sanctions.

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"If it becomes clear the enemy is moving to attack the South with nuclear missiles, in order to suppress its aims, the concept (of the special forces) is to destroy key figures and areas that include the North Korean leadership," the newspaper quoted Mr Han as telling lawmakers.

The minister was responding to a question by lawmaker Kim Sung Chan of the ruling Saenuri Party on the assassination plan.

It has long been suspected that such a plan is in place, but the minister's candid acknowledgement last Wednesday was unexpected, CNN reported.

"A president would want to have the option," Dr Daniel Pinkston of Troy University told CNN.

"Not presenting that to the president, not training for it and having that capability would be a mistake."

The KMPR plan envisions South Korea using its missiles to "decimate" areas of Pyongyang if there were signs that the North was about to launch a nuclear attack.

The pre-emptive strike would target the North Korean leadership, including its military headquarters, and feature simultaneous missile attacks capable of precision strikes.


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This year alone, North Korea has conducted two nuclear tests and test-fired more than 20 missiles.

After the latest blast on Sept 9, which provoked worldwide condemnation, Pyongyang claimed it had significantly advanced its ability and tested a miniaturised nuclear bomb for a warhead that could be mounted on a missile.

North Korea's Foreign Minister told the United Nations last Friday that "going nuclear" is his country's only way to defend itself, and vowed to further bolster its nuclear military forces, reported Agence France-Presse.

Speaking to the UN General Assembly, Mr Ri Yong Ho said his country will "continue to take measures to strengthen its national nuclear armed forces in both quantity and quality".

"Going nuclear-armed is the policy of our state," Mr Ri, who has been Foreign Minister since May, told the world gathering.

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"As long as there exists a nuclear weapon state in hostile relations with (North Korea), our national security and the peace on the Korean peninsula can be defended only with reliable nuclear deterrence."

South Korea's Defence Ministry has said it is planning for the worst-case scenario and assumed the North was ready to conduct a sixth nuclear test.

http://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia...?xtor=EREC-16-1[ST_Newsletter_AM]-20160925-[South+Korea+has+plan+to+assassinate+Kim+Jong+Un]&xts=538291
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Indonesia Marine Corps could purchase new version of BTR-4 amphibious armoured from Ukraine

Ukraine defense industry has tested a new version of its 8x8 amphibious armoured vehicle personnel carrier BTR-4 fitted with anew remotely operated weapon station, according Andrei BT Live Journal Blog. Some of these vehicles were send to Indonesia to perform a series of tests.

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The New BTR-4 has showed very good capacities in amphibious conditions during tests in Ukraine.

The new version is motorized with German Deutz engine, and new modules were added to the sides of the vehicle to increase the characteristics for river crossing and amphibious operations in the sea.

According some rumors, the Marine Corps of Indonesia could be interested to purchase 50 vehicles able to perform amphibious operations and that can carry into combat ships.

After the trial tests, Indonesian armed forces could take quickly a decision to purchase combat vehicles for its Marine Corps.

The BTR-4 is a 8x8 wheeled armoured personnel carrier designed in Ukraine by the Kharkiv Morozov Machine Building Design Bureau as a private venture.

The vehicle layout is similar to Pandur, Piranha and AMV — the driver and commander are sitting in the front of the hull, the engine is in the middle, troops are in rear. The troops egress is through the rear door. The BTR-4 hull consists of three compartments: front compartment is the driving station; middle compartment contains the vehicle's powerplant; and rear compartment which acts as the troops and fighting compartment.

The BTR-4 is fully amphibious, and he is propelled in the water with two propellers mounted to the back side of the hull.

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The new BTR-4 is fitted with a remotely operated weapon station and new modules are added on the sides of the hull to increase amphibious capacities.


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Hawkeye: Russia's New 5th Gen Radar 'Can See a Soldier's Helmet' During Combat

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“The UIC has devised fifth-generation phased array antenna which can see 10 cm small objects with photographic quality,” the unnamed representative said, adding that “the station can see objects as small as a soldier’s helmet and send target data to friendly forces on the ground.

He said that the new radar station had been developed to keep an eye on enemy installations and that its high resolution enabled it to accurately determine not only the type of a particular weapon or a fighting vehicle but also its make.

The station picks up moving targets, shows them on a grid chart in pixels or meters and color-codes oncoming and outgoing objects.

According to the UIC’s representative, this new technology of lateral visibility with a phased array antenna can be used on all existing types of aircraft.

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U.S. Navy's Zumwalt destroyer sidelined after engineering casualty

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NORFOLK, Va., Sept. 22 (UPI) -- The U.S. Navy's Zumwalt guided-missile destroyer has sustained an engineering casualty, less than a month before it is slated to be commissioned into service.

The casualty occurred on Monday during preparation to get underway at Naval Station Norfolk, the sea service told the U.S. Naval Institute.

The future DDG 1000 will stay in Norfolk to conduct an assessment of the casualty and to complete repairs.

Crews discovered the casualty after detecting a seawater leak in the propulsion motor drive lube oil auxiliary system for one of the ship's shafts, USNI reported.

While built-in redundancies in the ship's propulsion plant allows the first-in-class destroyer to operate with multiple engine configurations, it was determined that repairs should be done in port.

The Navy's newest and most technologically advanced surface ship was in the midst of a three-month journey to its San Diego home port.

The Zumwalt was scheduled to perform operational proficiency training, certifications and preparation ahead of its October commissioning.

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Russian mechanized infantry unit arrives in Pakistan for joint military drills

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MOSCOW, September 23. /TASS/. A mechanized infantry unit of the Russian Southern Military Command has arrived in Pakistan to take part in the first ever joint military drills dubbed Friendship-2016, the Southern Military Command’s press service told journalist on Friday.

"The international drills will involve more than 70 servicemen of the Southern Military Command, including the Mountain Mobile Brigade’s personnel deployed to the Karachay-Cherkessia Republic (North Caucasus), and also officers from the headquarters’ staff. The Southern Military Command’s mechanized infantry servicemen are fully equipped and have their mountain gear with them, as well as ammunition for their standard weapons," the press service added.

It is planned that the Russian and Pakistani military servicemen will share their experience and employ teamwork in fighting in mountainous areas, particularly destroying illegal armed groups.

"The joint military drills are aimed at bolstering and building up military cooperation between the two countries," the press service noted.

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Marhalim Abas September 26, 2016 Malaysia -RMN

SHAH ALAM: Walk Like An Egyptian was a song made famous by an American band the Bangles. However, in building the Gowind corvette, the French firm DCNS and maybe the Egyptians, are beating our boys in Lumut.

Boustead Naval Shipyard started building RMN’s LCS, four months earlier than the first Gowind corvette build by DCNS for Egypt. The steel cutting ceremony for the first LCS was conducted at the IHX Metallix plant in Holland on Dec 3, 2014.

DCNS cut the first steel for the first Egyptian Gowind corvette on April 16, 2015. And some 18 months later on Sept. 17th, the vessel – Elfateh – was launched at the DCNS shipyard at Lorient.

Compare that to the LCS. Fabrication started in Lumut in late December, 2015 or early January, this year while the keel laying ceremony was only held on March 8. And almost six months later, no one will say officially about the launch date.

It was expected that DCNS will beat BNS to the punch. Lorient is a “hot” yard complete with steel cutting facilities while BNS is a “cold” one – it has not build any ships since the last Kedah-class, KD Selangor. Work on KD Selangor started in 2006 while the ship was launched in 2009 and commissioned a year later.

Furthermore, BNS has to rely on sub-contractors for the supply of steel and to cut them. It takes around three months for the shipyard to get the cut steel before it could start building any part. And that without any change in the production line.

If they are changes, invariably they will be in a new ship build, the steel cut three months ago has to be re-work or discarded completely, delaying the building process.

It is likely that DCNS also faced the same difficulties but with all the facilities within a shouting distance, any problems could be hammered out quickly.

Like us, Egypt is also building more Gowind corvettes in their own shipyard – three actually – but they had the presence of mind to get DCNS to build the first vessel so the French could sort out all of the problems first.

And problems have crop up, as in any new build. DCNS was expected to deliver the first Egypt Gowind in 2017 but now it could be delayed to 2019.

For the record, work on the first Gowind corvette to build in Egypt started at the Alexandria Shipyard on April 16, this year where the first metal, was cut.

BNS was supposed to deliver the first LCS also by 2019 but the word in the industry that it will only happen if we are very lucky.

"RMN To Receive First Littoral Combat Ships In 2019 – Hishammuddin

LUMUT, March 8 (Bernama) — The efficiency of the Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) will be further increased when it received the first batch of its
Littoral Combat Ships (LCS) in 2019, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishamuddin Tun Hussein said."


I was told that BNS are having production difficulties (as explained in the 5th paragraph) and progress is not as smooth as have been projected.

Who knows what stage of the LCS will be now if the first vessel was build at Lorient instead of Lumut. But that’s water under the bridge now .

I have stated before that I am not very optimistic about the delivery time of the LCS. I sincerely hope I am proven wrong this time around.

* Note. The post on the steel cutting ceremony were among those that went missing after Malaysian Defence server crashed last year.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/walk-like-an-egyptian/

^^^ BNS production difficulties maybe is related also with this May 2016 article:

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On the heavy industries division, whose activities include shipbuilding and repair and oil and gas-related heavy engineering, Boustead told Bursa Malaysia: “Boustead Naval Shipyard recorded a higher deficit in the current quarter, mainly due to downward revision of margin for the LCS (littoral combat ship) project and increase in operating costs.

http://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...steads-results/


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Weapon of choice: France picks German-made HK 416 assault rifle to replace iconic FAMAS

Published time: 24 Sep, 2016 13:37

France has chosen the German-made Heckler & Koch HK 416 carbine to replace its iconic FAMAS assault rifle, which has been used by the French Army for over 40 years. The weapon became synonymous for its use by French soldiers.

The legendary but old-fashioned FAMAS, designed in France by the Manufacture d'armes de Saint-Etienne (MAS), will be replaced by the Heckler & Koch HK 416 by 2017, the French Directorate General for Armaments (DGA) announced in a statement on Friday.

Heckler & Koch, the German manufacturer, will deliver 100,000 rifles as well as accessories, ammunition and provide weapons training to all parts of the French military, including the Army, Navy and Air Force. The value of the 10-year contract is estimated to be around €300 million ($336 million).

"The contract contributes to the further strengthening of the solid ties between Germany and France in defense and in the armaments industry in particular," the DGA statement said, according to German news outlet N-TV. 

The HK 416 won an EU-wide tender for the French bid. It was competing against other competitors, such as the ARX160 made by the Italian company Beretta; the MCX manufactured by the German-Swiss company SIG Sauer, the VHS2 made by the Croatian firm HS Produkt and the SCAR, manufactured by Belgium's FN Herstal.

The FAMAS, known for its distinctive bullpup design, is incompatible with NATO standard ammunition, along with the age of the current rifles used by the military.


Read more: https://www.rt.com/news/360496-france-replace-famas-hk416/

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A South Korean military chopper involved in a joint military drill with U.S. Navy has crashed in waters off the nation's east coast Monday night.

The Lynx combat helicopter carrying three pilots on board disappeared from radar at 8:57 p.m., eight minutes after takeoff, after sending a distress call.

The exact cause of the crash has not been confirmed yet.

A search for the missing chopper by S. Korean and U.S. Navy is underway.


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A Pakistan Air Force (PAF) Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) crashed near Mianwali, on Monday.

A spokesman from Air force has confirmed that the PAF UAV jet was on its routine training mission when the crash happened.

The spokesperson has also confirmed that no loss of life or property has been reported, yet.

Air Headquarters, Islamabad has already set up a board of inquiry to determine the cause of the crash.


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If that is a recent pic then it is a very slow progress. Below pic was the keel laying in March 2016. Same section. They just only constructed the upper hull of that section.

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More pics of the keel laying in March 2016:

http://syarkghost.blogspot.co.id/2016/03/m...ttoral.html?m=1

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If that is a recent pic then it is a very slow progress. Below pic was the keel laying in March 2016. Same section. They just only constructed the upper hull of that section.

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ya, picture is show by RMN in FB yesterday. anyway our LCS only launch in 3th quarters 2017, so BNS still have 1 year time to complete the hull.
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U.S. Navy's Zumwalt destroyer sidelined after engineering casualty

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NORFOLK, Va., Sept. 22 (UPI) -- The U.S. Navy's Zumwalt guided-missile destroyer has sustained an engineering casualty, less than a month before it is slated to be commissioned into service.

The casualty occurred on Monday during preparation to get underway at Naval Station Norfolk, the sea service told the U.S. Naval Institute.

The future DDG 1000 will stay in Norfolk to conduct an assessment of the casualty and to complete repairs.

Crews discovered the casualty after detecting a seawater leak in the propulsion motor drive lube oil auxiliary system for one of the ship's shafts, USNI reported.

While built-in redundancies in the ship's propulsion plant allows the first-in-class destroyer to operate with multiple engine configurations, it was determined that repairs should be done in port.

The Navy's newest and most technologically advanced surface ship was in the midst of a three-month journey to its San Diego home port.

The Zumwalt was scheduled to perform operational proficiency training, certifications and preparation ahead of its October commissioning.

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ya, picture is show by RMN in FB yesterday. anyway our LCS only launch in 3th quarters 2017, so BNS still have 1 year time to complete the hull.
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They need 6 months just to construct the block part of the upper hull from that section alone since keel laying in March 2016. How long would it take to complete the whole ship?

I'm referring to the block part from the recent progress pic from RMN FB.

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^^ But i see a glimpse of maybe another module on the far right of the pic.

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Unless you are a Chinese shipyard, I thought if take 1 year to build frigate-sized ship is usual timeframe?
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Unless you are a Chinese shipyard, I thought if take 1 year to build frigate-sized ship is usual timeframe?
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Yemenis unveil 'Burkan-1' long-range tactical ballistic missile

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The Yemeni forces that Saudi Arabia is fighting have unveiled a ballistic missile that they claim has a range of more than 800 km, which would enable them to hit the port city of Jiddah.

Yemen's SABA news agency reported on 2 September that the Burkan-1 (Arabic: Volcano) is a modified 'Scud' that was developed by the Missile Research and Development Centre of the military's ballistic missile force, which is allied with the Ansar Allah (Houthi) group against Saudi-backed forces loyal to ousted President Abd Rabbuh Mansur Hadi.

SABA reported that the Burkan-1 has a diameter of 88 cm, a length of 12.5 m, a total weight of 8,000 kg, and a 500 kg warhead. That would make it the same diameter as a standard Soviet R-17 (SS-1C 'Scud-B') ballistic missile, but more than 1.5 m longer than a conventionally armed R-17, and around 2,000 kg heavier even though the warhead weighs roughly half as much.

The Al-Masirah television channel that supports Ansar Allah and allied military forces released a video showing three 'Scud'-type missiles that were labelled as Burkan-1s, as well as footage purportedly showing one being launched. Neither the missile nor the launcher could be seen in the latter footage, which was filmed at night.


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KOTA KINABALU: Rosmiati Abdul Rahim wept and shook when she saw a picture of her father being held captive in the jungles of Jolo by Abu Sayyaf gunmen.

“I can only pray for his and the others’ freedom,” said the 39-year-old. “We are helpless. We don’t have the money nor the means to help get them home safely,” she said.

Her father, Abd Rahim Summas, 62, was among five Malaysian sailors who have been in the clutches of the gunmen since they were grabbed from a tugboat in Lahad Datu waters on July 18.

The other four hostages are her uncle Tayudin Anjut, 45, her nephew Mohd Zumadil Rahim, 23, her cousin Fandy Bakran, 26, and Mohd Ridzuan Ismail, 32.

Rosmiati, whose family is based in Tawau, said her father was a tough sailor but had medical problems.

“He may not be able to take such harsh conditions any longer,” the housewife said.

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The photograph of her father, which appeared in The Star yesterday, was released by Abu Sayyaf spokesman Abu Rami.

Last week, Abu Rami arranged for a phone call between Mohd Ridzuan and The Star in which the hostage sent out a plea for help, saying that the captives had little food and suffered beatings.

The kidnappers are seeking 100 million pesos (RM8.5mil) for the release of the sailors.

Rosmiati’s cousin, Hariyanti Samsih, is married to Mohd Ridzuan.

Hariyanti, 31, said her husband became the designated person to communicate with their families.

The kidnappers, she said, would make contact several times in a month.

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“The last call I received from my husband was last Monday. He asked me to tell his boss to get help as soon as possible because they are suffering there,” said Hariyanti.

“I can’t do anything. We are poor,” she said.

She said their two children, aged five and three were always asking for their father. The couple also have a five-month-old child.

“I would just say that he is away at work,” she said.

Hasmiah Lahap, 50, the mother of Fandy Bakran, said she and other relatives would pray together everyday for the safe return of the hostages.

“We just want them back safely as soon as possible. But we don’t have money for the kidnappers. I hope the Government can help us,” she added.

http://www.thestar.com.my/news/nation/2016...-save-hostages/


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After Indian Success, France Targets Malaysia For Rafale Jet Sales

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Fresh from signing a contract to supply 36 Dassault Rafale jets to India, France is looking at Malaysia as the next possible buyer of its multi-role fighter.

Malaysia and Canada have competitions to acquire new fighter aircraft in which Dassault is a bidder but Dassault CEO Eric Trappier is more optimistic on the Asian country. Talking about the chances of the Rafale in future competitions where it would up against the American fighter jets such as the F-16 and F/A-18 Super Hornet, Trappier was quoted as saying by a French publication, Challenges, “we are not like America, we have to build a good plane.”

Reading between the lines of Trappier’s statement, is an admission of American political pressure for countries to buy its aircraft and that for the French to compete in such an environment their aircraft has to be better than the competition.

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The Malaysian procurement is considered a good opportunity by Boeing which manufactures the F/A-18. Malaysia is retiring older versions of F/A-18s in service with its Air Force. Saab which has sold its Gripen fighters to Thailand is also considered a good bet especially when it beat the French in the deal to sell jets to Brazil.

Regarding Canada, which re-opened the competition after public pressure to reject the super-expensive F-35, the French are not so optimistic given ‘American pressure’ on its northern neighbour. Canada has invited Eurofighter, Lockheed Martin, Boeing and Dassault to bid for its fighter acquisition program.

But many industry pundits expect the ultimate winner to be an American plane.

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However, the Indian contract would give an advantage to Dassault like none other. A French diplomat was quoted as saying in a French publication, Le Maghreb, "the Indians are downright formidable as negotiators," meaning that the aircraft and the terms of purchase are the only issues that mattered in the negotiations. Unlike in many other defence deals all around the world where bilateral relations and political groups (NATO countries buying only from fellow NATO countries) matter more than the technical merits of the equipment.

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Unless you are a Chinese shipyard, I thought if take 1 year to build frigate-sized ship is usual timeframe?
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Quote from article, the bolded part is the most worrisome. We may not see the first Gowind actually active until 2020! and what about the rest of the class? at 36 months a ship by the time we launch the last Gowind we might be ready to start building its replacement! at that build rate it would most definitely be cheaper to buy our ships from anybody!

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Fabrication started in Lumut in late December, 2015 or early January, this year while the keel laying ceremony was only held on March 8. And almost six months later, no one will say officially about the launch date.

It was expected that DCNS will beat BNS to the punch. Lorient is a “hot” yard complete with steel cutting facilities while BNS is a “cold” one – it has not build any ships since the last Kedah-class, KD Selangor. Work on KD Selangor started in 2006 while the ship was launched in 2009 and commissioned a year later.

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Moscow planning donation or loan

posted September 25, 2016 at 12:01 am
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MOSCOW is planning to donate or loan military equipment and technology to Manila, only days after President Rodrigo Duterte said he would go to Russia or China if the United States did not like his “dirty mouth.”

Ambassador to Russia Carlos Sorreta announced the plan after he met with Russian officials over how the two countries could boost trade and security cooperation as Duterte discussed with Russian Ambassador Igor Khovaev last May.

At the same time, the US State Department also announced on Saturday that Washington approved the release of $6.725 million (more than P300 million) from the $32 million fund that US State Secretary John Kerry pledged during his visit to Manila last July.
Ambassador to Russia Carlos Sorreta

Sorreta said the plan to donate or loan military equipment was discussed when he and vice consul Luningning Camoying were briefed by officials of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FSMTC).

The FSMTC is a federal agency directly under the Office of the President of the Russian Federation responsible for control and oversight in the field of military-technical cooperation between the Russian Federation and foreign countries.

Russian officials who hosted the briefing are First Department on Military and Technical Cooperation with Foreign States chief Serggey Buganov; and Section on Military-Technical Cooperation with Countries of the Asia-Pacific Region chief Valery Orel.

“We welcomed the briefing, which was quite revealing, particularly the extent that Russia is able to interact with a large number of countries in this field and the different mechanisms that are employed, including acquisition and transfer of Russian military equipment,” Soretta said.

“This is all part of our job to explore opportunities that could contribute to our government’s efforts to modernize our defense capabilities,” Sorreta said.

Aside from the military equipment and technology, Sorreta said Russia is also willing to provide training, after-sales service and maintenance, transfer of technology, investment in domestic military production and servicing and different modes of financing.


Read more: http://thestandard.com.ph/news/headlines/2...-deal-eyed.html
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They need 6 months just to construct the block part of the upper hull from that section alone since keel laying in March 2016. How long would it take to complete the whole ship?

I'm referring to the block part from the recent progress pic from RMN FB.

^^ But i see  a glimpse of maybe another module on the far right of the pic.
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Quote from article, the bolded part is the most worrisome. We may not see the first Gowind actually active until 2020! and what about the rest of the class? at 36 months a ship by the time we launch the last Gowind we might be ready to start building its replacement! at that build rate it would most definitely be cheaper to buy our ships from anybody!
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according preview news report, BNS will launch each LCS ship every 6 month after 1 ship launching (just hope so). so all ship will will finish construction n 2020,
all ship after launch, will continue assembly of the component, module , system, missile take about 1 year each ship. sea trail for 4-6 month。

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Looks like the Phillipines is primed for another military coup to remove Duterte.
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PT PAL Indonesia Builds Second Strategic Sea Lift Vessel For Philippines

Our Bureau09:32 AM, September 27, 2016

PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) has completed the construction of the second strategic sea lift vessel (SSV) ordered by the Philippines.

The ship is expected to be rolled out from its yard in Tanjung Perak, Surabaya, East Java, on September 29, Antara News reported.

The second SSV has been readied three or four months faster than the first one which had taken two years to finish, The company president director, M. Firmansyah Arifin said Saturday.

The first sophisticated ship built by the Indonesia was under the category of Lloyd Register class, and was launched on January 18, 2016. It has been named Tarlac by the Philippine government.

"Tarlac was the first warship that Indonesia exported and was part of the development of landing platform dock (LPD) designed with a length of 123 meters, a width of 21.8 meters and was capable of a speed of 16 knots. It can sail for 30 days in high seas," he elaborated. PT PAL applied the one day one block principle, and the strategy helped finish the ship building project faster, the project leader Turitan Indaryo said. "This means, every day there were blocks idenitified to be finished. So, those were completed ahead of the schedule," Turitan, current director of planning and business development, explained.

The Philippines has ordered two units of SSV-type LPD, complete with weapons for self-defense. The SSV comes complete with three helipads and a hangar and is capable of carrying two units of landing craft utility ships plus various kinds of combat vehicles, ranging from military trucks to amphibious assault vehicles.
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according preview news report, BNS will launch each LCS ship every 6 month after 1 ship launching (just hope so). so all ship will will finish construction n 2020,
all ship after launch, will continue assembly of the component, module , system, missile take about 1 year each ship. sea trail for 4-6 month。
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If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

Best case.

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BELL MADE A TILTROTOR DRONE WITH MISSILES FOR MARINES

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Runways are a hassle. Long, flat strips of unobstructed land are work to defend at the best of times, and can’t always be found in rugged terrain or on small islands. Yet having a fixed-wing plane fly air support is useful, because plane bodies are faster and much more efficient than helicopters. What’s the Marine Corps to do?

If you ask Bell Helicopter, the answer is obvious: a brand-new tiltrotor drone, unveiled today before a crowd of media and experts at that National Press Club in Washington, DC.

This is the V-247 Vigilant. The drone has a maximum speed of 345 mph, though it cruises most efficiently at 205 mph. It can fly at an altitude of up to 25,000 feet, can carry up to 2,000 pounds internally, and has a maximum flight time of 17 hours or a maximum range of 1,600 statute miles (though it can’t do all of this simultaneously). Bell provides an example mission of one where it carries a 600-pound payload to a target 500 miles away, hangs around for several hours, and then returns. And “target” here is key: the Vigilant isn’t just a scout. As designed, it can fire missiles, including Hellfires and its expected replacement, the Joint Air Ground Missile. It can also carry Mk50 torpedoes, making it deadly to enemies in the sea, as well as on land.

The Vigilant weighs 16,000 pounds empty, 29,500 pounds filled to the brim with something slung beneath it, and it has a wingspan of 65 feet with a 30-foot rotor diameter. Two V-247 Vigilants can fit inside a C-17 Globemaster transport, helping them get to where they’re needed. That makes the Vigilant about half the size of the troop-carrying V-22 Osprey tiltrotor, which is small for a plane but still a Group 5 drone for the military, which includes the heaviest and fastest drones.

Bell says it can start producing the V-247 as early 2023, and designed it to meet the needs of the Marine Corps. If the Corps bites, and if the Vigilant works as promised, by the end of the next decade Marines could fly into battle inside tiltrotor V-22s and request air support from tiltrotor V-247 drones, while at the same time soldiers from the Army arrive in Bell’s planned V-280 Valor transport.

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China has set out to develop a Catapult-Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery (CATOBAR) variant of the Shenyang J-15 Flying Shark.
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MUMBAI, Sept. 23 (UPI) -- Larsen and Toubro has signed a $99 million contract with the Vietnam Border Guard for high speed patrol vessels, the Indian company announced Thursday.

The contract calls for design and construction of the vessels, as well as transfer of design and technology, equipment and material kits for construction of follow-on vessels at a Vietnamese shipyard, the company said in a statement.

The vessels are for controlling and protecting sea security and sovereignty, anti-smuggling and search and rescue missions.

The 114-foot-long vessels are made of an aluminum alloy and reach speeds of 35 knots.

In keeping with the Indian government's "Make in India" policy, design and engineering of the ships will be done at the company's dedicated warship design center.

The company is currently executing Indian ministry of defense contracts for design and construction of 54 interceptor boats for the Indian coast guard, 28 of which have been delivered.

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Taiwan Asks Google to Blur a Secret Island Base, Plan Backfires

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Taiwan had good reason to want to hide a secret island base in the South China Sea. The country is building military fortifications on the island whose legal status is claimed or disputed by multiple countries. Taiwan asked Google to blur out the base on Google Maps, but that request has now backfired because was made public.

The location is Itu Aba or Taiping Island. It lies 763 miles south of Taiwan in the Spratly Islands. Taiwan has controlled Itu Aba since the 1950s, but China and Vietnam have openly claimed the islands, and the nearby Philippines contends this one is legally only a "rock" that does not qualify for full territorial rights.

The request seems to involve four new concrete structures that have popped up on the north side of the island in the last eight months. In January 2016, the director of the Center of Strategic and International Studies' Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative visited Itu Aba with Taiwanese officials. At the time, the structures were not present.

Right now, Google Maps shows a cluster of four Y-shaped concrete structures with what appears to be strua cture under construction in the center. This is consistent with an air defense battery made of either guns or missiles with search and tracking radars located in the center of the cluster. Here's a similar air defense facility protecting the Vietnamese Air Force base at Kep:

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It's unknown exactly what air defense weapon the structures are meant for, but they could be meant for Skyguard radar-controlled air defense guns, which can engage aircraft at low to medium altitudes at ranges of up to 13,000 feet.

This is not the first time Taiwan has bungled a secret operation visible in Google Maps. In 2009, Taipei disguised HF-2E land attack cruise missile trucks as commercial delivery trucks, complete with a fake company name, "Red Bird Express." After rumors began to circulate about the mysterious vehicles, a roof suddenly appeared over the truck parking lot.

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Russian Armata Vehicles to Sport Smart Fire-Suppression Gear With 'Black Boxes'

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The recorders are part of the PPO-25 intelligent fire control system developed by Elektromashina Association.

The PPO-25 immediately locates a flare-up and puts it out by adjusting the direction and amount of the firefighting foam depending on the intensity of the blaze.

“The system has already undergone preliminary trials and is currently being tested on new types of armored vehicles,” Ilya Markin, the head of Elektromashina’s firefighting division, told Izvestiya.

He added that the system memorizes the entire sequence of fire extinguishing operations thus making it possible to determine the time, place and causes of the fire.

Independent military expert Oleg Zheltonozhko said that the appearance of onboard recorders on Armata, Kurganets and Bumerang fighting vehicles was necessitated by their technological complexity and price.

“Onboard recorders are normally installed on the most expensive and complex machines like planes, spaceships and helicopters, but the cost and complexity of the latest tanks and armored vehicles is now putting them in the same category,” Zheltonozhko said.

According to Viktor Murakhovsky, editor-in-chief of “Arsenal Otechestva” (Arsenal of the Motherland) journal, Russia’s T-72B3, T-80 and T-90 tanks now carry onboard systems of fire suppression, which respond to sudden temperature jumps caused by a fire and put out the flames using special foam.

The Russian Defense Ministry unveiled its next-generation Armata tank during last year’s May 9 Victory Day military parade in Moscow.

It also rolled out a bevy of heavy armored vehicles based on the Armata combat platform, such as the Kurganets-25 tracked infantry fighting vehicle and the Bumerang amphibious wheeled armored personnel carrier.

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The Kurganets and Bumerang IFVs are currently undergoing testing ahead of their first deployment slated for 2017.
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If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

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the new construction matted is different from last time. plus BNS more better experience/capability than last time.
new matted allow ship join all piece module in 6-9 month (depend size) in shipyard. all module is pre-built in locally or other partner. after launch only do other assembly/fitting.
that allow shipyard have more time to built other ship (business), not Occupying the the shipyard.
anyway LCS said early is 2022 finish all ship.

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Pakistan warns of "water war" with India if decades-old treaty violated

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ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Pakistan would treat it as "an act of war" if India revoked the Indus Water Treaty regulating river flows between the two nations, Pakistan's top foreign official said on Tuesday.

Tension has been mounting between the nuclear-armed neighbours since at least 18 Indian soldiers in the disputed Kashmir region were killed this month in an attack that New Delhi blames on Pakistan.

India on Tuesday summoned Pakistan's High Commissioner in New Delhi to inform him about two men from Pakistan now in Indian custody who it alleges helped gunmen cross the disputed Kashmir border before the attack. Pakistan denies involvement in the raid and has urged India to conduct a proper investigation.

One retaliatory move being considered by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is for India to "maximise" the amount of water it uses
including by accelerating building of new hydropower plants, along three rivers that flow into Pakistan, a source with knowledge of a meeting attended by Modi on Monday told Reuters.

The source said India does not plan to abrogate the decades-old Indus Water Treaty. But using more of the rivers' water is still likely to hurt Pakistan as the Islamic Republic depends on snow-fed Himalayan rivers for everything from drinking water to agriculture.

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Sartaj Aziz, foreign policy adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, said Islamabad would seek arbitration with the Indus Water Commission which monitors the treaty if India increased the use of water from the Chenab, Jhelum and Indus rivers.

However, if India revoked the treaty, Aziz said Pakistan would treat that as "an act of war or a hostile act against Pakistan."

"It's highly irresponsible on part of India to even consider revocation of the Indus Water Treaty," Aziz told the national assembly.

The treaty was signed in 1960 in a bid to resolve disputes, but India's ambitious irrigation plans and construction of thousands of upstream dams has continued to annoy Pakistan. India says its use of upstream water is strictly in line with the agreement.

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India currently generates about 3,000 megawatts of energy from hydropower plants along rivers in its portion of Kashmir, but believes the region has the potential to produce 18,000 megawatts and says it can use more water and still remain within the terms of the treaty.

Aziz said India's provocative posturing constitutes a breach of the Indus Water Treaty and "threats of a water war are part of a military, economic and diplomatic campaign to build pressure on Pakistan", and deflect attention from civil unrest by the Muslim population in the Indian-ruled side of Kashmir.

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The attack on the Indian brigade headquarters in the Kashmir town of Uri before dawn on Sept. 18 was the deadliest in 14 years in the disputed Himalayan region and has sharply raised tensions between the arch-rivals.

India on Tuesday told Pakistan's High Commissioner that security forces had in their custody two men - a 19-year old and a 20-year old - who helped a group of gunmen cross the de facto border dividing Kashmir before launching the Sept. 18 raid, and that they were from Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

In a statement, India's foreign ministry said the two men were apprehended by local villagers on Sept. 21, and that one of them had since admitted their role as guides and also identified one of the gunmen as a Pakistani from Muzaffarabad.

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Reuters could not independently verify these claims.

A Pakistan foreign ministry spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

(Reporting by Drazen Jorgic in ISLAMABAD and Tommy Wilkes in NEW DELHI; Editing by Richard Balmforth)

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Today, Turkey fields three types of M-60s, including 658 M-60A3 TTS vehicles with improved thermal sights for night combat, and 170 Israeli-upgraded M-60A1 Sabra Mark II tanks, designated the M-60T in Turkish service. Ankara fields 104 more M-60A1 tanks that it has yet to upgrade to M-60Ts.
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On April 21, video evidence appeared of Islamic State fighters firing a Kornet anti-tank missile at a Turkish M-60T tank, which was training Iraqi forces in Bashiqah, a town north of Mosul. Turkish troops returned fire and killed 32 Islamic State fighters, according to the Turkish army.
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A picture of the vehicle released after the incident revealed that the missile damaged the vehicle — but it didn’t appear to fully penetrate.
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It’s possible the missile didn’t cause a full kill because it struck the side of the Patton’s turret rather than the center of mass.
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In May 2016, Kurdish fighters claimed the destruction of two Turkish M-60s. In video footage of one incident, an anti-tank team cheered as their missile struck a tank deployed behind sandbagged defensive positions on the top of a hill.
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On Aug. 27 a Kurdish anti-tank team knocked out a Patton with a U.S.-made TOW missile, leading to the first Turkish death in the intervention. The destruction of a second Patton appeared on video shortly afterward.
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On Aug. 27 a Kurdish anti-tank team knocked out a Patton with a U.S.-made TOW missile, leading to the first Turkish death in the intervention. The destruction of a second Patton appeared on video shortly afterward.
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However, on Sept. 7, the Islamic State released video footage of two Turkish Pattons near Al Rai taking hits from missiles — again likely to be Kornets. Testifying to the power of the Russian-designed missiles, the first tank violently burst into the flames, while the second erupted in a cloud of smoke and debris.
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The Firtinas have long-barreled 155 millimeter howitzers with a range of 30 to 40 kilometers depending on the ammunition.
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On April 30, the Islamic State released a video depicting AT-13 Metis-M missiles taking out a platoon of three Firtinas in sandbagged positions. Like most self-propelled artillery, the Firtina’s armor is for stopping shrapnel and small arms, not guided missiles — leaving one to wonder why the vehicles were in such an exposed position in the first place.
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Finally, the Otokar Kobra is a unique armored vehicle incorporating Humvee DNA. For one, it has the same suspension and wheel base. However, unlike the Humvee, it’s designed from the get-go with a mine-resistant v-shaped hull and better protection from small arms and shrapnel.
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Despite reportedly having a good record surviving blasts from improvised explosive devices and mines, this has simply led to Kurdish fighters making bigger bombs. In August 2015, a 2,000 pound IED destroyed a Turkish army Kobra in Siirte province, killing its eight passengers.


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DND finalizing contract for Navy's 2 missile-firing frigates

MANILA, Sept. 27 (PNA) -- The contract for the Philippine Navy's two missile-armed frigates is now being finalized, Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong said Monday.

Once the contract is finalized, it will be signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and the duly authorized representative of the winning proponent, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), he added.

"Notice of Award (NOA) was formally served to HHI last Aug. 4. Once the formal contract is signed, it will be followed by a Notice to Proceed, which will be formally served to the proponent," Andolong said.

"NOA was given to HHI as GRSE (Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd) was post-disqualified after it was determined that their Net Financial Capacity was insufficient and therefore not in compliance with Republic Act 9184 (Government Procurement Policy Board)," he added.

GRSE along with HHI was one of the six proponents in the DND's frigate program.

In the NOA, HHI offered PHP15,744,571,884 for the two frigates.

The DND has allocated the sum of PHP18 billion for the acquisition of two missile-capable frigates, with PHP16 billion going to the construction of the ships and PHP2 billion for its munitions.

The ships will be armed with a variety of sensors and weapons capable of detecting and neutralizing air, surface, and submarine threats.

It will be also capable of electronic warfare.

Aside from this, the frigates, according to their technical specifications, must be capable of performing extended maritime patrol with an embarked naval helicopter and maritime surveillance through air-and-surface-search radar, sound navigation and ranging (sonar) for sub-surface search.

It will be armed and fitted a variety of air-to-air, anti-ship, and anti-submarine weapons. (PNA)


http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=1&sid=&nid=1&rid=926455

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Today I learned: Indonesians purchased 25 Tu-16 "Badger' bombers way back in the 1960s, in preparation for war with the Netherlands over West Irian

Ever since independence in 1949, Indonsia has always coveted the territory of West Irian. Under president Sukarno, Indonesian military forces continually raided the territory, which was then was still ruled under the Dutch colonial government. This culminated in the breaking off of diplomatic relations between the two countries.

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In 1961, the Indonesians launched 'Operasi Trikora' to capture West Irian from the dutch authorities. In 1962, Indonesian incursions into the territory in the form of paratroop drops and the naval landings of guerrillas were used to step up the Indonesian Foreign Minister Subandrio's diplomatic confrontation with the Dutch.

Operation Trikora was to unfold in three phases, infiltration, exploitation and consolidation, all under cover of the Indonesian Air Force. The plan called first for the insertion of small bands Indonesian troops by sea and by air drop who would then draw Dutch forces away from areas where the exploitation phase would stage full scale amphibious landings and paratroops operations to seize key locations. The consolidation phase would then expand Indonesian control over the whole of Western New Guinea.

The Indonesian Air Force began to fly attack missions in the area from bases on surrounding islands. Meanwhile amphibious raids by the Indonesian Navy and Marines were intensified.

By the summer of 1962, the Indonesian military had begun planning a large-scale amphibious and air assault against Biak, the Netherlands' main power base in West Irian. This operation would have been known as Operation Jayawijaya ("Victory over colonialism") and would have included a substantial task force of 60 ships including several which had been supplied by Sukarno's Soviet and Eastern Bloc allies, including the heavy cruiser KRI Irian (ex-Ordzhonikidze) along with 16,000 soldiers and Marines. This force was to be commanded by General Suharto (the future president).

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KRI Irian

To strengthen their hand, Indonesia purchased 26 Soviet Tupolev Tu-16 'Badger' heavy bombers along with a number of KS-1 'Kennel' Anti Ship missiles . These were ordered to sink any Dutch naval vessels trying to resist the planned invasion, especially the light carrier HMNLS Karel Doorman, with its jet-powered Sea Hawk naval fighters, which was identified as a major threat. The Karel Doorman was at that time docked in Frematle, Australia ready to be deployed.

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A TNI-AU Tu-16 heavy bomber, armed with two KS-1 missiles

On 15 August 1962, the Netherlands, unwilling and unable to wage a protracted war on the other side of the world, agreed to meet Indonesian officials. They later signed the New York Agreement in which the Netherlands ceded the territory of West Irian to a UN administrative state, with a view of later integration with Indonesia. Due to this agreement, Operation Jayawijaya was called off. Indonesia occupied West Irian in 1963 and renamed in 'Irian Jaya'.
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Today I learned: Indonesians purchased 25 Tu-16 "Badger' bombers way back in the 1960s, in preparation for war with the Netherlands over West Irian

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Indonesian Navy back then also had the most submarines in the region operating 12 units Whiskey Class submarines.

Indonesian Navy Whiskey Class submarines during Operation Trikora:

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In less than two weeks, the situation in the South China Sea has deteriorated at an accelerated pace: a joint Sino-Russian naval exercise; plans for Japan-U.S. joint patrols in the same area; Taiwan building anti-craft gun towers on Itu Aba; Jakarta trying to get U.S. help to upgrade its naval bases.
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France’s Jean-Yves Le Drian. This year, he pushed for coordinated EU patrols in the South China Sea.
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According to the 2014 presentation of Asia-Pacific policy, France “has a duty to protect its citizens in Asia-Pacific countries whose number has increased by 220 percent over the last twenty years, to exceed 120,000 in 2012 – almost as large as the French population in sub-Saharan Africa.”
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It also has a toehold in Asian military deals, with France a part of 40 percent of Southeast Asian submarine contracts and 20 percent of naval projects. French strategic companies like DCNS, DCI, and Thalès are already active in Asia. French companies are set to supply submarines to Malaysia, 12 attack submarines to Australia, and 36 Rafale fighter jets to India
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The French Navy is also used to deploying in the the region. So far in 2016, three vessels have visited the South China Sea and, according to Senator André Trillard, France actually has a surveillance frigate and a patrol boat at all times in New Caledonia. The French Navy is the only European military force deployed in the South China Sea. It will not be difficult for Paris to ensure a “regular and visible presence.”
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With six nuclear-powered submarines (SSNs) and four ballistic missile submarines (SSBNs) equipped with long-range nuclear warhead missiles, there’s no doubt that French Navy’s deterrent force will be heard. But, as specified by President Francois Hollande, “France will not go it alone.” European approval is needed.


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Today I learned: Indonesians purchased 25 Tu-16 "Badger' bombers way back in the 1960s, in preparation for war with the Netherlands over West Irian

Ever since independence in 1949, Indonsia has always coveted the territory of West Irian. Under president Sukarno, Indonesian military forces continually raided the territory, which was then was still ruled under the Dutch colonial government. This culminated in the breaking off of diplomatic relations between the two countries.
In 1961, the Indonesians launched 'Operasi Trikora' to capture West Irian from the dutch authorities. In 1962, Indonesian incursions into the territory in the form of paratroop drops and the naval landings of guerrillas were used to step up the Indonesian Foreign Minister Subandrio's diplomatic confrontation with the Dutch.

Operation Trikora was to unfold in three phases, infiltration, exploitation and consolidation, all under cover of the Indonesian Air Force. The plan called first for the insertion of small bands Indonesian troops by sea and by air drop who would then draw Dutch forces away from areas where the exploitation phase would stage full scale amphibious landings and paratroops operations to seize key locations. The consolidation phase would then expand Indonesian control over the whole of Western New Guinea.

The Indonesian Air Force began to fly attack missions in the area from bases on surrounding islands. Meanwhile amphibious raids by the Indonesian Navy and Marines were intensified.

By the summer of 1962, the Indonesian military had begun planning a large-scale amphibious and air assault against Biak, the Netherlands' main power base in West Irian. This operation would have been known as Operation Jayawijaya ("Victory over colonialism") and would have included a substantial task force of 60 ships including several which had been supplied by Sukarno's Soviet and Eastern Bloc allies, including the heavy cruiser KRI Irian (ex-Ordzhonikidze) along with 16,000 soldiers and Marines. This force was to be commanded by General Suharto (the future president).

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KRI Irian

To strengthen their hand, Indonesia purchased 26 Soviet Tupolev Tu-16 'Badger' heavy bombers along with a number of KS-1 'Kennel' Anti Ship missiles . These were ordered to sink any Dutch naval vessels trying to resist the planned invasion, especially the light carrier HMNLS Karel Doorman, with its jet-powered Sea Hawk naval fighters, which was identified as a major threat. The Karel Doorman was at that time docked in Frematle, Australia ready to be deployed.

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A TNI-AU Tu-16 heavy bomber, armed with two KS-1 missiles

On 15 August 1962, the Netherlands, unwilling and unable to wage a protracted war on the other side of the world, agreed to meet Indonesian officials. They later signed the New York Agreement in which the Netherlands ceded the territory of West Irian to a UN administrative state, with a view of later integration with Indonesia. Due to this agreement, Operation Jayawijaya was called off. Indonesia occupied West Irian in 1963 and renamed in 'Irian Jaya'.
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Rub this giant many times during my multiple visits, gives me a tingling sensation each time I do that. wub.gif

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Walk under it, while rubbing its belly....a hint of old metallic and oil scent....it does tingle inside.
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Duterte says upcoming Philippines war games with US will be the last



HANOI: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Wednesday said that an upcoming military joint exercise with the United States would be the last between them but he pledged to honor existing treaties.

Speaking in Hanoi to the Filipino community, Duterte said there would be no chance of joint navy patrols with Washington and that the notion that there was conflict between the Philippines and China was "more imaginary".

"I am serving notice to the United States that this will be the last military exercise," Duterte said referring to the next month's joint marine exercise with the U.S.

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Indonesia takes delivery of new BTR-4M amphibious armoured personnel carriers from Ukraine

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The Indonesian Marine Corps has taken delivery of the first batch of new Ukrainian BTR-4M amphibious  armoured personnel carriers.

The ship MV Texel carrying five units of new BTR-4M amphibious armoured personnel carriers arrived at the dock port of Tanjung Priok in Indonesia on September 28. In August, the ship Texel with Ukrainian  BTR-4M wheeled armoured vehicles was spotted by Yörük Işık during the transit of Bosphorus.

Indonesia’s needs for wheeled armoured personnel carriers are a total of 55 units. The armored vehicles are for the Marines, to replace the aging Indonesian BTR-50.


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Sadly the TNI-AU couldn't maintain the Badgers for long though. The 30th September 1965 coup and the policy of realignment to the western world by president Suharto subsequently cut off Indonesia from Soviet supply and maintenance experts needed to maintain the Badgers. All Tu-16s were grounded in 1968 and they were finally decommissioned in 1970. They were barely in service for a decade. sad.gif

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Seriously though, back in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s when Malaysia had barely an armed forces, Indonesia had many very modern military assets at the time.

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Sadly the TNI-AU couldn't maintain the Badgers for long though. The 30th September 1965 coup and the policy of realignment to the western world by president Suharto subsequently cut off Indonesia from Soviet supply and maintenance experts needed to maintain the Badgers. All Tu-16s were grounded in 1968 and they were finally decommissioned in 1970. They were barely in service for a decade. sad.gif

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Seriously though, back in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s when Malaysia had barely an armed forces, Indonesia had many very modern military assets at the time.
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I found an anecdote about a Tu-16 ordered to do an overfly of KL as a show of force. It was detected by the RAF and was jammed all the way until it was forced to return to Medan.

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Tu-16 terlibat penuh dalam kampanye Trikora dan Dwikora. Hanya saja, Dwikora lebih banyak memberikan kesan kepada Suwandi. Sebutlah suatu malam, Suwandi diperintahkan Komodor Leo Wattimena terbang di atas Kuala Lumpur. “Leo yang memerintahkan, dia juga ikut,” aku Suwandi.

Skenarionya lebih kurang begini: Tu-16 terbang dari Medan dan akan show of force di atas Kualalumpur. Untuk menipu radar lawan, pesawat Il-28 Beagle yang diterbangkan Oloan Silalahi disuruh berputar-putar di atas Belawan. Tapi apa yang terjadi. Baru saja pesawat memasuki wilayah udara Singapura, mendadak seluruh lampu padam. Inggris yang mengetahui kedatangan bomber menakutkan itu, langsung bertindak. Tu-16 di-jammed!

Kapten Suwandi yang sebenarnya belum diizinkan terbang malam oleh Dan Wing 003 Letkol Suyitno, sempat kehilangan akal. Avionik tidak berfungsi, sistem navigasi dibuat macet. Tapi tidak ada waktu lagi untuk berdebat. Dia langsung memutar arah pesawat, dan segera mengontak lewat radio tower Medan. Begitulah, lewat tuntunan radio dan kompas magnetik, dia menyusuri “jalan” ke Medan hingga mendarat dengan selamat.

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cost & capacity

Kawasaki C-2 are cheaper with same capacity (vs A400M).

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from open source, A400M slightly better due to better fuel consumption. Y-20 still new. but 2nd largest with 66t capacity .
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actually currently Y-20 only have about 52-55 tons capability due to old engine they have to wait few year more until new more power full engine to carry over 60 tons is ready。

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"I am serving notice to the United States that this will be the last military exercise," Duterte said referring to the next month's joint marine exercise with the U.S.
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Duterte says upcoming Philippines war games with US will be the last



HANOI: Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte on Wednesday said that an upcoming military joint exercise with the United States would be the last between them but he pledged to honor existing treaties.

Speaking in Hanoi to the Filipino community, Duterte said there would be no chance of joint navy patrols with Washington and that the notion that there was conflict between the Philippines and China was "more imaginary".

"I am serving notice to the United States that this will be the last military exercise," Duterte said referring to the next month's joint marine exercise with the U.S.

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In the interest of national security, the House of Representatives and the government have agreed to purchase the country’s very own military communication satellite, with procurement targeted for 2018, a lawmaker says.

House Commission I overseeing defense and foreign affairs deputy chairman Asril Tanjung said Indonesia had been using satellites facilitated by foreign countries such as Australia and the US, posing a risk to national security.

Indonesia also used a Garuda 1 communication satellite operated by Asia Cellular Satellite and constructed by US-based Lockheed Martin, however the permit to use the satellite orbit expired in 2015 and thus the empty slot should be immediately replaced so that Indonesia does not lose the slot, Asril said.

"Indonesia could secure the country's interests since the satellite would be operated independently by the Defense Ministry. The procurement is important since other countries already have their own satellite, which is ideal since [military communication] is secretive in nature," Asril said on Wednesday.

The decision to acquire the satellite was made following a series of discussions held by Commission I with relevant stakeholders, including the Defense Ministry and Finance Ministry, which approved the budget, as well as the Communications and Information Ministry, which regulates patent rights.

From the previous budget of US$ 849.3 million, the House and the Finance Ministry have approved a request for funding from the Defense Ministry to acquire a military communication satellite from Airbus Defense and Space for US$ 699 million. (dmr)


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Saab is opening an office in the Philippines to pursue an opportunity for the Gripen. Source: Saab

Saab is to open an office in Manila by the end of 2016 to support the company's campaign to sell its JAS 39 Gripen fighter aircraft to the Philippine Air Force (PAF), an official from the Swedish company told I HS Jane's on 28 September.

Speaking on the opening day of the Asian Defence and Security 2016 (ADAS 2016) exhibition in Manila, Carl-Erik Leek, Saab's executive vice-president in the Asia Pacific, said the new office would be the centre of the company's marketing activities in the country.

At present, these are undertaken from Saab's regional headquarters in Thailand, although the company does not currently have a major presence, in terms of previous defence sales, in the Philippine market.

The new office will also be supported by the Swedish government's intention, announced in December 2015, to open an embassy in Manila to support growth in bilateral trade and investment. Both Saab's office and the new embassy are expected to be operational by November.

Leek, who will head up the new Manila office, said Saab's primary target in the Philippines is the PAF's requirement - outlined in the service's modernisation programme, Flight Plan 2028 - for 12 multirole combat aircraft. "Saab can fulfil the PAF requirement for an affordable fighter aircraft," said Leek. "We think we are a strong contender."

He added that the offer would include a package of support systems, similar to the capabilities that Saab has supplied the Royal Thai Air Force, which procured 12 Gripen C/D aircraft ordered in two phases in 2008 and 2010, with deliveries completed in 2013. "[The PAF offer] will be a whole system including ground infrastructure, an integrated command-and-control system, sensors, and datalinks," he said.

In addition, Leek highlighted opportunities for Saab to meet Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) requirements for naval systems - such as combat management systems - radars and air defence.


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ROCKHAMPTON, Australia: On a balmy Tuesday evening (Sep 27), five Republic of Singapore Air Force (RSAF) F-15SG fighter jets roared into action from the tarmac of the Rockhampton airport in Queensland, Australia and pierced through the skies.

Since 1990, Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) troops taking part in the annual Exercise Wallaby have been using training space Down Under to put their endurance levels to the test and to harness battlefield skills through air-land integration operations.

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An RSAF F-15SG fighter aircraft taking off for a night mission during Exercise Wallaby. (Photo: Xabryna Kek)

Shoalwater Bay Training Area (SWBTA), situated about 6,000km away from Singapore, boasts land space approximately four times the size of the island-nation. The rugged terrain is where selected SAF personnel rough it out for 60 days on average.

Tuesday's training session was the first time Exercise Wallaby involved F-15SG fighter jets. The jets have previously been deployed in other overseas exercises such as at 2015’s Exercise Forging Sabre in Phoenix, Arizona in the United States.

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An RSAF pilot conducting safety checks on the F-15SG fighter aircraft before taking off for a mission during Exercise Wallaby. (Photo: Xabryna Kek)

“Each location gives us different types of advantages, training opportunities and benefits,” said Exercise Air director BG Jonathan Tan in a briefing with reporters on Wednesday morning. “In the United States, we train very closely with the Americans, such as the US Air Force, US Marine Corps and the US Army.

"So, in every country and exercise that we go to, it gives us a different slice, and when we piece all these together, it allows us to really reap the full benefits of the training that we have both locally and overseas.”

According to Singapore’s Ministry of Defence (MINDEF), the F-15SG is an all-weather multi-role fighter and the most advanced and technologically sophisticated variant of the F-15 aircraft built to date.

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An RSAF F-15SG fighter aircraft waiting to take off for a mission. (Photo: Xabryna Kek)

The inaugural addition of the F15SG fighter jets will also allow the RSAF to conduct integrated live fires - including exercising land strikes - to help the SAF in “validating its fighting concepts” as a whole, added Land Exercise director BG Chua Boon Keat of the 6th Division.

Other land and air assets that will be deployed in Exercise Wallaby 2016 are the C-130 Hercules, AH-64D Apache, AS 332 Super Puma, Heron-1 UAV, BRONCO all-terrain tracked carrier, BIONIX, M113, Light Strike Vehicle and the 5-ton LARC V.

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Two armoured personnel carriers - M113 (left) and V-200 (right) - deployed to the Shoalwater Bay Training Area as part of Exercise Wallaby. (Photo: Xabryna Kek)

On why using the SWBTA is especially vital for the SAF, BG Chua explained: “With the limited training space in Singapore, we cannot conduct meaningful large-scale exercises and integrate the air, land and sea.

“This training space allows us to do different manoeuvres on a large scale and operate the air force and navy in an integrated manner. If we were limited only in Singapore, it would mean that our training will only be at the battalion level and below.”

Apart from vacillating temperatures in Rockhampton, which can go up to 29 degrees Celsius in the morning and 17 degrees Celsius at night, troops from the SAF will have to adapt to sandy and dusty surroundings.

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A participant of Exercise Wallaby. (Photo: Xabryna Kek)

This year’s 54-day drill marks SAF’s 26th year training at the SWBTA. Taking place from Sep 15 to Nov 7, the exercise will involve about 1,200 RSAF personnel and more than 3,000 army personnel, as well as 300 different platforms. Besides the SWBTA, the SAF also conducts training in other Australian areas such as Pearce in Western Australia, Oakley in Queensland and Tamworth in New South Wales.

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Top guns of Exercise Wallaby. (Photos: Xabryna Kek)

“Rockhampton is almost like a home to me,” shared BG Tan. “For the last few years, I’ve been coming back here to run the exercise for the Air Force and I’ve actually seen the town grow - quite sure we have contributed quite significantly to that. In fact, when I was in the air yesterday, I was just reflecting on the days when I first came here … it has grown a fair bit.

"I also want to say that I’m very appreciative of the hospitality and the way the Australia Defence Force has given us the space to train and grow.”

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Exercise Air director BG Jonathan Tan. (Photos: Xabryna Kek)

Senior Minister of State for Defence Maliki Osman and Minister of State for Communications and Information Janil Puthucheary met NSMen and SAF regulars participating in the exercise, which Mr Puthucheary said integrates "many elements across all the services, stretching their skills and capabilities, and ultimately gaining new confidence in themselves".

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More pics of the Indonesian Army ASTROS II MLRS live firing test. Photo by Pen Divif 2.

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SAFARI Weapon Locating Radar (WLR)

The SAFARI Weapon Locating Radar (WLR) was commissioned this evening. Highly mobile and responsive, the SAFARI WLR enhances Army’s force protection against indirect fires. Its commissioning today, held in conjunction with the turn-ops parade of the SAFARI WLR Detachment from 24 SA, marks a milestone in the Singapore Artillery’s 3rd Generation Transformation!

Chief of Army, MG Melvyn Ong, emphasised that the successful operationalisation of the SAFARI enables the Army to “leverage on technological advancements to enhance our capabilities while right sizing manpower demands”. With the introduction of the SAFARI WLR, the battery size will be reduced from the usual 18 men crew to 11 men. The newest early warning technology of the SAFARI will also“strengthen our networked sense and strike capabilities” and ensure that our troops “will be better protected, more efficient and deadlier in the battlefield”.

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The Indonesian Marine Corps took delivery of 5 units BTR-4M consists of 3 units BTR-4M APC variant & 2 units BTR-4M IFV variant (Parus turret) from Ukraine. Credit to indonesianmilitarypower.

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Indonesian PT PAL today launched Philippine Navy 2nd SSV BRP Davao Del Sur (602).

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PT PAL also launched today the Indonesian Navy 2nd Sigma PKR 10514 KRI I Gusti Ngurah Rai (332). Credit to Portal Komando.

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Today I learned: In 1961, India launched an invasion of the Portugese territory of Goa

One of the problems vexing the Indian prime minister Jawarhalal Nehru in the 1950s was what to do about Goa. It was still a Portuguese colony – as it had been for four and a half centuries – and the Portuguese dictator Antonio Salazar had no intention of letting go of it. On 11 December 1961, 17th Infantry Division and attached troops of the Indian Army were ordered by Nehru to advance into Goa to capture Panaji and Mormugão under Operation Vijay. The main thrust on Panaji was to be made by the 50th Para Brigade Group—one of the Indian Army's most elite airborne units—led by Brigadier Sagat Singh from the north. Another thrust was to be carried by 63rd Indian Infantry Brigade from the east. A deceptive thrust, in company strength, was to be made from the south along the Majali-Canacona-Margao axis.

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Although the Indian 50th Para Brigade was charged with merely assisting the main thrust conducted by the 17th Infantry, its units moved rapidly across minefields, roadblocks and four riverine obstacles to be the first to reach Panaji.

Hostilities at Goa began at 9:45 on 17 December 1961, when a unit of Indian troops attacked and occupied the town of Maulinguém in north east Goa, killing two Portuguese soldiers in the process. The Portuguese 2nd EREC (esquadrão de reconhecimento—reconnaissance squadron), stationed near Maulinguém, asked for permission to engage the Indians, but permission was refused at about 13:45. The Portuguese had scant hopes of resisting the Indian invasion, given they only had 3,000 soldiers and armed police to defend the territory. Meanwhile the Indians dispatched nearly 30,000 soldiers and numerous air and naval support in the operation.

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Indian Air Force Canberras bombed Portuguese positions in Goa

By the evening of 18 December, most of Goa had been overrun by advancing Indian forces, and a large party of more than two thousand Portuguese soldiers had taken position at the military base at Alparqueiros at the entrance to the port town of Vasco da Gama. Per the Portuguese strategy code named Plano Sentinela the defending forces were to make their last stand at the harbour, holding out against the Indians until Portuguese naval reinforcements could arrive. Orders delivered from the Portuguese President called for a scorched earth policy—that Goa was to be destroyed before it was given up to the Indians.

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Despite his orders from Lisbon, Governor General Manuel António Vassalo e Silva took stock of the numerical superiority of the Indian troops, as well as the food and ammunition supplies available to his forces and took the decision to surrender. He later described his orders to destroy Goa as "um sacrifício inútil" (a useless sacrifice). He did not know it then, but Portugal was actually unable to send any naval vessels, due to Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser denying them access to the Suez canal.

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The Indian Chief of Army Staff, General Pran Thapar (far right) with deposed Governor General of Portuguese India Manuel António Vassalo e Silva (back to camera) discuss surrender terms

The official Portuguese surrender was conducted in a formal ceremony held at 2030 hours on 19 December when Governor General Manuel António Vassalo e Silva signed the instrument of surrender bringing to an end 451 years of Portuguese Rule in Goa.

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Radar used to be a slow science. Electronic warfare is a blanket term that encompasses the radar signals used to detect an attack, the radios used to communicate that the attack is coming, and the specific radio interference sent to confuse enemy radars as they’re attacking. And in the Cold War, every part of this used to be analog.

“In Vietnam we learned what an SA-2 radar signal started looking like,” Joshua Niedzwiecki, director of the Sensor Processing and Exploitation group at BAE Systems, tells Popular Science. The SA-2 is a surface to air missile that destroyed a lot of U.S. Air Force planes, especially B-52 bombers, over Vietnam. “The paradigm then was we saw a new signal in an environment and got a lot of experts and put them in a room in a laboratory and had them start to dissect what those characteristics were, in order to build a prescription for a solution, what’s that antidote. That process took months.”

Niedzwiecki works for BAE Systems, American counterpart to the British defense giant, and we are speaking today because of a new technology that came from BAE’s research and transformed into something called “Cognitive Electronic Warfare.” I’ll get to the specifics of that in just a minute, but in order to understand the breakthrough, it’s helpful to understand the past.

“The current paradigm is extremely time-consuming, extremely cumbersome, and in the past, this was acceptable because the radio frequency technology was very static. Everything was analog hardware. If I built a radar system, all the things that make that signal look like it looks, were driven by analog components,” Niedzwiecki continued. “So they weren’t prone to change for years. Nowadays, you see radar that on every single radar pulse can change what operating frequency they’re working at, what their pulse width is, what their bandwidth is, because of digital processing technology and software-defined radios. By the time you’ve gone back to the lab to study what you saw, the threat is different, by the time you come back from your mission, the threat is different.”

The threat in electronic warfare is manifold. A hostile radar can guide missile after missile at incoming aircraft. A jammer that interferes with GPS can keep bombs from falling where they’re supposed to, or get troops lost on the ground. A strong signal at the right frequency can interfere with soldier’s radios, leaving them suddenly cut off from commanders and friends. On its own this is frustrating; but combined with the other, lethal parts of war (“kinetics”, in Pentagon jargon), what happens in the electromagnetic spectrum can shape battles.

This morning, BAE revealed a “lightweight, handheld tactical sensor” for cognitive electronic warfare. Developed for DARPA, the sensor is designed for soldiers and marines to carry into battle, where it will identify and classify new signals. In the previous, Cold War-era approach, American troops went into battle knowing only signals already identified, and after detecting a new signal, it would take months to have a response. Many systems, even ones that already had signals recorded in peacetime, can, according to Niedzwiecki, "have a “war reserve” mode, a waveform signature that we may not have seen before,” so there’s now guarantee that adapting to an old signal will protect against the signals that replace it.

Cognitive electronic warfare takes the burden of deciphering and countering new signals out of human minds in a lab, and entrusts it instead to AI and machine learning. If the cognitive system sees a signal similar to one it has seen before, it can respond accordingly. If the interference makes the radio signal weak, then the cognitive system might just put more power into the same radio signal. If the jamming makes some parts of the spectrum unworkable, then the cognitive system could look for a part of the spectrum that’s still open for communication, and redirect signals there. If the approach works, as captured by bit-error rate, the system learns and remembers. If it doesn’t, the cognitive system can try a different approach, changing up its response until something gets through.


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Bombs Away: Russia to Build Unique Mine-Clearing Robot Based on Armata

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The new vehicle, now on the drawing board in Nizhny Novgorod, will be built around either the Armata or Bumerang combat platforms. It comes complete with a drone and is part of the KR-521 automated reconnaissance data collection and processing center.

“The system’s biggest forte is that it will be remote-operated and will ensure a 100-percent increase in the speed of engineering reconnaissance operations,” Russian Engineering Troops commander Lt.-Gen Yuri Stavitsky told the newspaper.

He added that the robotic vehicle will transmit reconnaissance data in real time in digital mode. As ordered by the Defense Ministry, this advanced unmanned system will reconnoiter minefields, destroy mines and break through enemy lines.
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Today I learned: Indonesians purchased 25 Tu-16 "Badger' bombers way back in the 1960s, in preparation for war with the Netherlands over West Irian


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In-Q-Tel (named after “Q” in the James Bond films) invests in companies that can deliver useful technology to the intelligence community within 36 months. But since it’s structured as an independent, non-profit organization, it’s rather unique: It’s a VC firm that doesn’t really need to make money back for outside investors, and it can tap into the deep pockets of the intelligence “black budget.“
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The product, CylancePROTECT, is used exclusively in the enterprise for large corporations, banks, and government clients. Cylance told Business Insider it would soon be launching a product for regular users as well.

In-Q-Tel invested in the company in 2016.
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The company can figure out things such as how certain stores are performing, how many people visit a store, or determine how busy it is at certain times of the day, and so on.

The satellite analysis can answer other questions as well: What intersections are the busiest at rush hour? Or perhaps, how is China’s economy doing?

Orbital Insights has attracted plenty of interest beyond the CIA, which chipped in $5 million in 2016. Around that same time, Google Ventures led an investment round of $15 million.
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Cyphy (pronounced Sci Fi) has a tethered drone that can keep a watchful eye from up to 10,000 feet above its base station, or it can help with long distance communications.
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The company also has a smaller “pocket flyer” drone that flies through doors and windows, and which fits inside a soldier’s cargo pocket.

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BlueLine Grid is giving government agencies the ability to communicate in much the same way startups and media companies are doing, with the popular Slack app.

Called GridTeam, the secure mobile collaboration platform offers messaging, image and file sharing, and instant conference calls for organizations. It’s mostly used by law enforcement and first responders to communicate.

In-Q-Tel invested in the firm back in 2015.
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The Austin, Texas-based Atlas Wearables originally launched on Indiegogo in 2014, where it raised more than $600,000 in funding. Now its fitness tracker is sold in sporting goods stores or on Amazon.

Besides the band, it also has an app that acts as a personal trainer, which, just like the real thing, knows if you didn’t do that last pushup.

In-Q-Tel invested in Atlas in 2015.
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Fuel3d sells a handheld hardware device called Scanify that can capture detailed, three dimensional scans in less than a tenth of a second.

The tech can be applied to a variety of markets: Full-face capture is being used to build customized eyewear, and crime scene data can be used to build 3d models that can help investigators solve crimes.

How it would be used by the intelligence community is unclear, but In-Q-Tel invested in late 2014.
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MindMeld is providing the voice commands for everyone else.

Backed by Google Ventures and Samsung Ventures, among others, MindMeld offers the tech that allows more than 1,200 companies to put voice commands into their apps.

“And we’re still just scratching the surface,” Founder and CEO Tim Tuttle told Entrepreneur. “Jarvis, the voice-activated computer used by Tony Stark in the Iron Man movies is only like five to 10 years away.”

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Had they had the handheld device from SnapDNA, that later confirmation may not have been necessary. The Silicon Valley startup built a handheld, battery-powered device that can analyze DNA within five minutes, rather than hours or days on expensive machines in a laboratory.

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Their product goes inside the mouth, giving users incredible clarity even in the noisiest of environments. On its website, it shows special operators talking to each other while plummeting to earth in a freefall skydive, and the video demo shows how useful it could be for firefighters.

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Spies are using Palantir’s software to link together the huge cache of data gathered by CIA, DHS, NSA, and others. The military uses it to figure out whether a roadside bomb was built by a specific person. And even detectives with the LAPD are querying it to understand criminal ties.

Palantir has expanded to offer solutions for healthcare and financial firms.

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The company’s “Boomerang” technology tells helicopter and ground vehicle crews if they are being fired at — along with the direction it came from — and its speech recognition tech helps troops to translate foreign languages in the field.

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Founded in 2001, the Silicon Valley startup revolutionized satellite imagery with 3d maps, allowing users to “fly” over locations. The technology, called EarthViewer, was used by troops in the Iraq War, and in news broadcasts at the time.

Google bought the company in 2004, and subsequently rolled the tech into its popular Google Earth and other mapping products.

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Basis’ Rosette software can look at foreign language in documents and translate it, while also going beyond the basics to identify relationships or determine whether what is written is of positive or negative sentiment.

The technology is an obvious no-brainer for the intelligence community, which is in constant need of skilled translators who are US citizens.

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Oculis Labs builds products to stop “visual eavesdroppers” on mobile and desktop devices. Instead of privacy screens that come down over a monitor, its PrivateEye and Chameleon software tracks where the user is looking and only displays what’s on screen to them.

If the user turns away, the display is masked. And while they are working, someone standing two feet away from the actual user will just see a bunch of gibberish on screen.

In-Q-Tel invested in the firm in 2011.


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Thus, appearing on the 12th annual forum of the international organisation “Yalta European Strategy”, Poroshenko stated that “the Russian so-called green men instigate the growth of violence in the Middle East and provoke further increases in the number of refugees in the European Union”.
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is worth to note that the results of the British referendum with the benefit of Russia, were linked not only by Poroshenko. The former American ambassador to the Russian Federation Michael McFall, after the plebiscite, stated that the victory of the Eurosceptic was a victory of the Russian president Vladimir Putin.
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If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

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the 2nd gowind very likely to be delayed.
Mainly it affected by bns undertaking 2 more main project the Lekiu and submarine midlife upgrade.
I expect the speed will improve once bns delivered the first gowind class.
We would likely to see 3 gowind class to be build at the same time.
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the 2nd gowind very likely to be delayed.
Mainly it affected by bns undertaking 2 more main project the Lekiu and submarine midlife upgrade.
I expect the speed will improve once bns delivered the first gowind class.
We would likely to see 3 gowind class to be build at the same time.
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Good to hear.

Speaking of which, the Kasturis are 30+ years old already. Any idea of their out of service date?
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A military helicopter crashed in the central Swiss Alps on Wednesday, killing two pilots and injuring a flight assistant.

The head of the Swiss Air Force, Aldo Schellenberg said the incident occurred when a Super Puma helicopter crashed onto the Gotthard pass road at midday.

"I'm deeply shocked," Schellenberg told a news conference in Bern.

The helicopter crashed shortly after take-off close to a hotel, the St Gotthard Hospice. It had flown a delegation of four French army officers and Swiss officials to the area.

They were part of a regular two-day mission of the Organization for Security and Co-operation un Europe (OSCE) inspecting Swiss army installations.

The air force declined to give any further information, saying an investigation into the cause of the crash is underway. André Blattmann, head of the armed forces, said the helicopter had apparently hit a power cable.

Defence Minister Guy Parmelin visited the crash site, telling the Swiss public news agency SDA: "This is a new drama for the defence ministry." He was referring also to a crash of a military jet last month.

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Now War Is Boring has obtained, via the Freedom of Information Act, heavily-redacted documents that appear to show just how spooked U.S. commandos were by extremists’ anti-air missiles. So spooked that the special operators made an urgent request for extra defensive gear.
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On March 30, 2015, U.S. Air Force lieutenant general Thomas Trask, vice commander of U.S. Special Operations Command, sent a so-called “joint urgent operational need” memo to his superiors at the Pentagon. The request called for gear to spot and defeat man-portable surface-to-air missiles.
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In an email to War Is Boring, Matt Schroeder, a senior researcher at Small Arms Survey who actively tracks the spread of man-portable anti-aircraft missiles, couldn’t think of any particular incident in the spring 2015 that might have prompted the Pentagon’s concerns. But militants across the Middle East and North Africa regularly post photos and videos on social media showing off the weapons.
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The most commonly-seen type is the Soviet-era SA-7, referred to by the NATO nickname “Grail” or its Russian name “Strela.” Exported to dozens of countries after entering production in 1970, the missile homes in on an airplane or chopper’s hot engine exhaust.
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In addition, Islamist fighters have smaller numbers of the much improved Chinese FN-6 and Russian Igla missiles. Compared to the older SA-7, the FN-6 can hit targets farther way and is more likely to get past bright decoys.
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“Proliferation aside, these infrared-guided shoulder-launched weapons are essentially low-altitude weapons that are difficult to employ and relatively easy to defeat,” U.S. Air Force veteran Michael Pietrucha, who served as an irregular warfare operations officer, argued in a piece for War on the Rocks.
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Despite the apparent urgent need for new defensive gear, so far there have been no reports of terrorists shooting down commando aviators with missiles or any other weapons. The U.S. Army blamed the crash of a small, secretive spy plane in Iraq in March on a “dual-engine emergency,” according to the January-May issue of the service’s aviation safety magazine Flightfax.


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50 ships and submarines, 26 countries, 1 mission: to safeguard the peace and security of the high seas. Join RSS Steadfast as they participate in the world’s largest multinational maritime exercise: the Rim of the Pacific Exercise 2016.


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I was browsing my army friend photo which is currently on business trip to South Korea. One of the photo is his visit to Hanhwa Thales factory in Gumi, South Korea mentioned on the photo,

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Adik beradik Samsung juga..kilang kerata kebal dan kapal latihan navy Malaysia.


Are we in process of buying any new tank now or just the training ship?

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I was browsing my army friend photo which is currently on business trip to South Korea. One of the photo is his visit to Hanhwa Thales factory in Gumi, South Korea mentioned on the photo,
Are we in process of buying any new tank now or just the training ship?
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Good to hear.

Speaking of which, the Kasturis are 30+ years old already. Any idea of their out of service date?
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As for Kasturi is still in the services they have undergone upgrade few years ago.
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BAE systems has officially revealed its heavily-armored monster machine for the Marine Corps' Amphibious Combat Vehicle 1.1 (ACV 1.1) program. This eight-wheeled armored personnel carrier is designed to ferry Marines from ship to shore, then protect the grunts as they move inland. If chosen, it will replace the aging AAV7.

As a service dedicated to the art of hitting the beach, the U.S. Marine Corps currently rely heavily on the AAV7 amphibious assault vehicle to carry infantrymen from amphibious ships to the beach and beyond. Unfortunately, the AAV7, while steadily upgraded over the years, lacks the armored protection to survive in a modern land battlefield. The growing use of improvised explosive devices (IEDs) and light anti-armor weapons has made the aluminum-clad vehicle obsolete.

The Marines started looking at a replacement for the AAV7 as early as 1988. The Expeditionary Fighting Vehicle (EFV) was to be a heavily armed—and armored—combat vehicle that carried 17 Marines and used a combination of water jets and an extendable bow plane to achieve water speeds of up to 28.6 mph. Engineering delays and rising costs eventually doomed EFV, which was canceled in 2012 after $3 billion in development costs.

South Korean AAV7 amphibious assault vehicles treading water during a 2006 military exercise.

But BAE's Amphibious Combat Vehicle could be its potential successor. Although originally designed by IVECO, a subsidiary of Fiat (yes, the car company), this is no 124 Spider convertible. This eight-wheeled vehicle weighs nearly 34 tons, has a three-person crew, and can carry thirteen Marines—a full Marine Corps infantry squad. It can do 65 mph on paved roads and has around a 250-mile range.


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Eyes on Target: Russian Troops Get New High-Tech Image-Stabilizing Binoculars

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The new BSh 10x50 and BKS 20x50 series military binoculars, developed and manufactured by the Shvabe Holding, a Rostec subsidiary, utilize a unique stabilization mechanism which uses relies on magnetic fields instead of gyroscopes and digital matrixes.

A source in the Russian Defense Ministry told Izvestia newspaper that the new binoculars are already being supplied to the nation’s airborne assault and marine forces and to the navy.

"The new mechanical image-stabilizing binoculars were extensively tested during this year. They were used in all of the latest drills: in the Arctic, in the mountains. Even in the most extreme conditions, the binoculars provided a clear image," the source said.

The new BSh 10x50 and BKS 20x50 series wide-angle binoculars offer 20-fold magnification with angular field of view of 6.8 degrees. The binoculars are resistant to dust and humidity and can operate in extreme temperatures, from minus 40 to plus 40 degrees Celsius.

The binoculars' internal optical systems are not rigidly fixed in place, but instead ‘float’ in a magnetic field generated by powerful magnets installed on the casing. When the binoculars are jolted, this mechanism smoothly compensates for the unwanted movement and helps maintain a stable image.

Shvabe Holding Deputy CEO Dmitry Zhidkov explained that the company effectively managed to develop a mechanical image stabilization technology that does not require a power source and is highly resistant to both extreme environmental conditions and to electronic warfare attacks.

Formed in 2008, the Shvabe Holding is a union of over 60 manufacturing companies and R&D organizations that develop and produce optical and optoelectronic systems.

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DUSSELDORF, Germany, Sept. 29 (UPI) -- Germany's Rheinmetall AG is to modernize system technology at the German Army Combat Training Center in a series of staggered projects.

The projects, covered under contracts worth $26.9 million, include special expansion of the center's headquarters software for execution and evaluation of training sequences in the site's "Schnöggersburg" urban combat environment, and modernization of the training area's data communication system.

The contracts are from the Federal Office of Bundeswehr Equipment, Information Technology and In-Service Support. Rheinmetall's Simulation and Training unit will perform the the work and ready the training center for MOUT -- military operations in urban terrain -- exercises.

Rheinmetall said it will use its Legatus line of products for the modernization effort, which continues to 2020.

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Islamic State terrorists have held the historic city of Mosul for nearly two and a half years, and they have dug networks of tunnels and filled moats with crude oil to lay waste to a city that has been called an open-air museum.
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The number of terrorists inside the city is somewhere between 3,000 and 5,000—half the estimated number from two months ago, according to military observers.
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Nonetheless, ISIS-built defensive barriers are a force multiplier. The terrorist force has dug 18-foot-deep trenches around the city and filled these with oil and tar. Black smoke from burning moats has the potential to obscure targets pursued by fighter aircraft and drones. Tunnels have been dug connecting both banks of the Tigris River and also the northern end of the city to districts near the Qayara oil fields, allowing fighters, weapons, and supplies to be moved quickly. Some tunnels discovered after the fall of Fallujah were miles long.
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The jihadists have a unified command-and-control system whereas coalition commanders must coordinate fighters from multiple religions and language groups. These include 25,000 Iraqi regular soldiers, most of whom are Shia, approximately 6,000 Kurdish Peshmerga, who are majority Sunni, 4,500 support troops from the United States, and 3,500 NATO troops.
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This force will be joined by 10,000 Sunni tribal fighters from Nineveh Province, 2,000 soldiers from the National Mobilization Force created by former governor Atheel Nujaifi, Assyrian Christians, and ethnic groups such as Yazidis and Shabaks—14,000 soldiers in all, according to Yonadam Kanna, a member of parliament and spokesman for the 500-soldier unit of Assyrian Christians.
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Eager to join the Mosul campaign are 30,000 to 100,000 troops belonging to Shia militias, known as Popular Mobilization Forces
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Face It — America Doesn’t ‘Win’ a Lot of Wars

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The record of the greatest fighting force in the history of the world, according to SOCOM — zero wins, two losses and seven ties.

This dismal record is catalogued in a briefing slide produced by SOCOM’s Intelligence Directorate last September and obtained by TomDispatch via the Freedom of Information Act. “A Century of War and Gray Zone Challenges” — a timeline of conflicts ranked as wins, losses and ties — examines the last 100 years of America’s wars and interventions.

“Gray zone” is an increasingly popular term of the trade for operations conducted somewhere on the continuum between war and peace. “Traditional war is the paradigm,” the briefing slide asserts. “Gray zone conflict is the norm.”

While he finds a great deal to fault in SOCOM’s analysis, retired Army colonel Andrew Bacevich, a professor of history and international relations at Boston University, believes its assessment of post-9/11 conflicts “is quite accurate.”

Although American politicians such as Clinton regularly insist that the United States possesses “the greatest military” on the planet, they avoid addressing the question of what the country’s armed interventions have actually accomplished when it comes to policy goals — the true measure of success in war. “We have not shown an ability to achieve our stated political aims in a conclusive way at an acceptable cost,” Bacevich says. “That’s simply a fact.”


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Speaking of which, are our TUDM pilots and ground crew conversant in Russian by now? laugh.gif beyond cyka blyat there is brows.gif
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Not only will they get ridiculously hot, black won't even camouflage them very well. Coz, you know, sand.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2016, 11:36 AM)
Why, why, why these people still wear all-black uniforms when fighting in a desert country?  rclxub.gif
Not only will they get ridiculously hot, black won't even camouflage them very well. Coz, you know, sand.
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i think its more like operators pride than anything laugh.gif
as only their spec ops operators wear the blacks
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I heard this anecdote from a Singaporean source that basically says 'in any war with Malaysia, Singapore must achieve victory within five days, if not we will lose the initiative and face possible collapse'.

Sounds like BS, but any idea if this has some grain of truth? confused.gif

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I heard this anecdote from a Singaporean source that basically says 'in any war with Malaysia, Singapore must achieve victory within five days, if not we will lose the initiative and face possible collapse'.

Sounds like BS, but any idea if this has some grain of truth? confused.gif
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very true.. drawn up 40-50 years ago.. still the current doctrine... swift and decisive bruce.gif flex.gif
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very true.. drawn up 40-50 years ago.. still the current doctrine... swift and decisive  bruce.gif  flex.gif
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How do you define achieve victory ?
SG ARMY occupied all the way to kl?
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How do you define achieve victory ?
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depending on situation... in general is when all threats have been eliminated to an acceptable level... i dunnolol, me no general
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I heard this anecdote from a Singaporean source that basically says 'in any war with Malaysia, Singapore must achieve victory within five days, if not we will lose the initiative and face possible collapse'.

Sounds like BS, but any idea if this has some grain of truth? :confused:
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30 days lah
Within that time they expect to win, reach a diplomatic solution or receive reinforcements (cough Murica cough)

Also got Singkie confidently tell me their spearhead can reach KL in 3 hours doh.gif guess that's why they always fly up the highway, they are practicing doh.gif doh.gif
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ADAS 2016: PT PAL readies for rectification works on the Philippine Navy's first SSV

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PT PAL is working with the Philippine Navy to assess the extent of damages sustained by Tarlac, seen here during its commissioning in June 2016. Source: Philippine Navy

Indonesian shipbuilder PT PAL has confirmed that it is working with the Philippine Navy (PN) to determine the extent of damages sustained by the service's first-of-class strategic sealift vessel (SSV) in a collision on 19 September.

The landing platform dock (LPD)-like ship, BRP Tarlac, was anchored off Naval Station Romulo Espaldon in Mindanao when it was rammed by a Liberian-flagged product tanker, MT Tosca .

Initial assessments suggest the damages suffered in the incident are minor, and mostly localised in the ship's bow section at the point of impact.

"However, we are not taking any chances and our technicians are currently on the vessel to check the ship's vital components," said Tjahjono Yudo, PT PAL's general manager of corporate strategic planning, in a meeting with IHS Jane's at the ADAS 2016 defence exhibition in Manila on 29 September.

The inspections will cover components including the vessel's hydraulic systems, electrical systems, and hull scantlings to ensure the platform's structural integrity has not been compromised.

"We are standing by for the possibility that the vessel may be sent back to Surabaya for repair works in the worst-case scenario," said Tjahjono. But he added that this looks highly unlikely unless the technicians find major rectifications are required.


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MOSCOW --- Warsaw is upgrading the pieces of land military hardware inherited from the Soviet Union and former state members of the Warsaw Pact in order to increase the level of compliance with the armed forces of NATO nations. However, the share of the Soviet-originated equipment in service with the Polish army remains high.

In late August 2016, Poland`s media released a footage, showing the demonstrator of an upgraded PT-91 Twardy [a modification of T-72M1 - TASS] main battle tank developed by the OBRUM design bureau and manufactured by the Zaklady Mechaniczne Bumar-Labedy SA. The combat vehicle was designated as PT-16. It received a 120mm STANAG-compatible main gun designed by Polish Huta Stalowa Wola SA.

The vehicle was supposed to be able to fire all types of tank munitions [including armour-piercing fin-stabilized discarding sabot (APFSDS), high-explosive anti-tank (HEAT), and high-explosive (HE) rounds - TASS] used by the armed forces of NATO state members. TASS supposes that the vehicle received an autoloader developed by the Polish industry that replaced the ageing one of PT-91/T-72M1 MBTs.

The tank's armour protection was drastically reinforced over its predecessors. The frontal arc of PT-16 was shored up with composite armour plates that allowed increasing of the vehicle's front protection to 1,000 mm of rolled homogeneous armour (RHA) against HEAT rounds [it is equal to the armour protection of the Leopard 2A5 main battle tank - TASS]. The MBT is planned to get an advanced fire control system (FCS), as well as turret and main gun electric drives with digital control. PT-16 is powered by single V-46TK (1,000 h.p.) multi-fuel diesel engine designed by the Serbian defense industry.

The main gun was complemented by the ZSDU Korbuz remote controlled weapon station (RCWS) armed with a 12.7mm WKM-Bm [a licensed copy of the Soviet NSVT light weapon - TASS] heavy machinegun chambered for 12.7x99mm STANAG 4383 cartridge. The WKM-Bm machinegun is produced by the Tarnuv Mechanical Plant. The PT-16 program was implemented within six months [including the manufacturing of the demonstrator - TASS] by the Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa SA (PGZ) consortium, using the enterprise's own funds.

Despite the decline to upgrade the PT-91 Twardy tanks announced by the Polish Defense Ministry, the national military has revealed its interest in the PT-16 MBT, according to PGZ. The company is planning to conduct the negotiations over PT-16 development and further acquisition with Poland's Land Forces at the MSPO 2016 defense show in Kielce that will open on September 6.

At present, the Polish military operates a mixture of Leopard 2A4/2A5, T-72M1, and PT-91 main battle tanks. According to the Military Balance 2016 report issued by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), Warsaw has 971 MBT in service, including 142 Leopard 2A4, 91 Leopard 2A5, 233 PT-91 Twardy, and 505 T-72/T-72M1/T-72M1D tanks. Hence, the venerable T-72 tank previously produced in Poland under the license granted by the Soviet Union remains the backbone of the Polish Land Forces. Considering the lack of the national Defense Ministry's intention to update the Twardy tanks, the ageing T-72/T-72M1/T-72M1D MBT might be rebuilt into PT-16s in a long-term perspective.
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very true.. drawn up 40-50 years ago.. still the current doctrine... swift and decisive  bruce.gif  flex.gif
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I hear main cause is that singapore military actually dont have that much strategic logistic capability to carry on an offensive for an extended time.

Something like if the main objectives of a major assault isnt concluded in a certain number of days,they'll have trouble regarding supplies because the military isn't structured to venture very far from singapore island itself.

Also I hear the main strategy in a war with malaysia would be establishing a sustainable buffer zone instead of looking to defeat the malaysian armed forces in detail as they simply aren't structured for a long campaign.
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2016, 09:39 PM)
I hear main cause is that singapore military actually dont have that much strategic logistic capability to carry on an offensive for an extended time.

Something like if the main objectives of a major assault isnt concluded in a certain number of days,they'll have trouble regarding supplies because the military isn't structured to venture very far from singapore island itself.

Also I hear the main strategy in a war with malaysia would be establishing a sustainable buffer zone instead of looking to defeat the malaysian armed forces in detail as they simply aren't structured for a long campaign.
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The plane, KAF Puma Helicopter 415, was on its way to a recruitment exercise.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2016, 04:38 PM)
I heard this anecdote from a Singaporean source that basically says 'in any war with Malaysia, Singapore must achieve victory within five days, if not we will lose the initiative and face possible collapse'.
Sounds like BS, but any idea if this has some grain of truth? confused.gif
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basically 24h enough for SG technically Win.
in 2hrs time our Airforce already end war with SG, SG take over Air dominate。 24h can take over Johor basically end thread to SG, all base just waiting booming by SG jet, remember they have tanker and AEW.
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 30 2016, 08:23 PM)
waaa, you hear a lot er..  rclxms.gif
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Wanna gain military intel have to keep ears open la. laugh.gif

Again,this anecdote is said to be from an inside man in SAF itself. He stated that while the SAF is highly mechanized, it has relatively small numbers of logistics assets.
Any offensive has to be short and sharp, or risk consuming more supplies that the logistics tail can send forward.

Also said is that any assault would involve the professionals in the SAF only, as this source indicated that the reservists and NS men are unsuited for an extended campaign and will only be stationed in the defense of singapore island only.

I wouldnt be surprised if this is some sort of fiction,but on a harder look there may be grains of truths in the story.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 1 2016, 12:55 AM)
basically 24h enough for SG technically Win. 
in 2hrs time our Airforce already end war with SG, SG take over Air dominate。 24h can take over Johor basically end thread to SG, all base just waiting booming by SG jet, remember they have tanker and AEW.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 1 2016, 12:55 AM)
basically 24h enough for SG technically Win. 
in 2hrs time our Airforce already end war with SG, SG take over Air dominate。 24h can take over Johor basically end thread to SG, all base just waiting booming by SG jet, remember they have tanker and AEW.
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If this is the case I'll volunteer for (or even organize) an insurgent guerrilla group looking to covertly undermine the Singaporean occupation of Johor. If the SAF really want to occupy Johor, let's see how many NS men's blood is worth it.

Which malaysian patriots here in /k will (hypothetically) join me? laugh.gif
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errr.. i think country a vs country b discussion is not encouraged in this tered lar

not sure but past tered ts yinchet can clarify?
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Nahh we not that serious. SG and MY dont do war. SG will always be part of MY. and u not going hurting yourself unless u r mad person.
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mohon sifu putin teach us how to annex Tringapore peacefully icon_question.gif icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 1 2016, 01:20 AM)
errr.. i think country a vs country b discussion is not encouraged in this tered lar

not sure but past tered ts yinchet can clarify?
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I think we just voicing out opinion on a hypothetical scenario. See previous posts,if ts think any are over the line feel free to take action.

Also I like to think we here at military /k are more reasonable and have better grasp of military realities than people at regular /k, amirite?

certainly not to MALAYSIA STRONKl! NO,SINGAPORE STRONK! primary school levels.laugh.gif

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Oct 1 2016, 01:48 AM)
mohon sifu putin teach us how to annex Tringapore peacefully  icon_question.gif  icon_question.gif
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how do you define victory against Msia? flat out reach Putrajaya in <1 week?

complete disability of our military assets, rendering us defenseless?

or complete wipe out until Perlis?

just remember this, wars are not won on battlefields, its logistics

you can have the strongest most invincible army/navy/airforce but if you have no ammo nor manpower, how do you field them?
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Any scenarios involving Singapore and Malaysia going to war belongs in a novel or in a military academy syllabus because it doesn't make sense at the present day.

there is no reason for both countries to be at each other throats other than to satisfy the fantasies of immature people who have the luxury of not seeing the true face of war.bersyukur dengan keamanan yang ada people

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 1 2016, 02:12 AM)
how do you define victory against Msia? flat out reach Putrajaya in <1 week?

complete disability of our military assets, rendering us defenseless?

or complete wipe out until Perlis?

just remember this, wars are not won on battlefields, its logistics

you can have the strongest most invincible army/navy/airforce but if you have no ammo nor manpower, how do you field them?
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Full control over Malaysia. Meaning Malaysia army wiped out, all Malaysian government removed and replaced with a gov.


Look USA defeat Iraq army but it didn't stop there. The insurgency lasted over 10 years
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 1 2016, 01:20 AM)
errr.. i think country a vs country b discussion is not encouraged in this tered lar

not sure but past tered ts yinchet can clarify?
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I dun encourage such A vs B discussion.
Mainly it was to prevent the thread going out of control.
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QUOTE(heavyduty @ Oct 1 2016, 02:38 AM)
Any scenarios involving Singapore and Malaysia going to war belongs in a novel or in a military academy syllabus because it doesn't make sense at the present day.

there is no reason for both countries to be at each other throats other than to satisfy the fantasies of immature people who have the luxury of not seeing the true face of war.bersyukur dengan keamanan yang ada people
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higher chance of China going to war with Malaysia than Singapore war with Malaysia.

Just look at the military build up in the south China sea



If Malaysia get attacked by another country army, Singapore might assist Malaysia. Because if Malaysia goes down, there is good chance Singapore would be affected.

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Full control over Malaysia. Meaning Malaysia army wiped out, all Malaysian government removed and replaced with a gov.
Look USA defeat Iraq army but it didn't stop there. The insurgency lasted over 10 years
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only peninsular kut, Sarawak is too big for Sinkie to occupy.....
but then.......maybe like that, we can be one again biggrin.gif Let's start a war with Sinkies now! biggrin.gif
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Has anyone asked d question: do d sinkies secretly hv nukes?
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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Oct 1 2016, 02:54 AM)
Full control over Malaysia. Meaning Malaysia army wiped out, all Malaysian government removed and replaced with a gov.
Look USA defeat Iraq army but it didn't stop there. The insurgency lasted over 10 years
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still kinda impossible, even if bulk of armed forces gone, guerillas and resistance fighters will appear and bla bla

how will Sinkie maintain control with meagre amount of manpower also?


though if complete victory by pure genocide then.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 1 2016, 02:12 AM)
how do you define victory against Msia? flat out reach Putrajaya in <1 week?

complete disability of our military assets, rendering us defenseless?

or complete wipe out until Perlis?

just remember this, wars are not won on battlefields, its logistics

you can have the strongest most invincible army/navy/airforce but if you have no ammo nor manpower, how do you field them?
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It depend on the war objectives and achieving it would be considered victory.
It could be disable the enemey government or to force a surrender of the enemy government or to annex the state.



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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2016, 03:05 AM)
It depend on the war objectives and achieving it would be considered victory.
It could be disable the enemey government or to force a surrender of the enemy government or to annex the state.
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yeah the lines these days are blurred so much. itll be victory in achieving objectives, not exactly a clear all out victory against [said] country

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 1 2016, 03:03 AM)
still kinda impossible, even if bulk of armed forces gone, guerillas and resistance fighters will appear and bla bla

how will Sinkie maintain control with meagre amount of manpower also?
though if complete victory by pure genocide then.. laugh.gif
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If war really happened btw sg and my.
Sg best option is to neutralize most of the military threat and of course political threat that threaten sg interest.
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From a pure military point of view i.e. disregard politics, reason to invade, regional chain reactions, occupation period etc etc, sinkie would win in probably 48 hours. All major Malayan military assets would b wiped out by d saf in d shock & awe initial stage. (Our radars don't work, remember). At this stage, militarily, we're oredi defeated. By d time we wise up to wat had happened, jb would've been captured. And d rest history...
& thr's one more sensitive point...

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Oct 1 2016, 03:31 AM)
From a pure military point of view i.e. disregard politics, reason to invade, regional chain reactions, occupation period etc etc, sinkie would win in probably 48 hours. All major Malayan military assets would b wiped out by d saf in d shock & awe initial stage. (Our radars don't work, remember). At this stage, militarily, we're oredi defeated. By d time we wise up to wat had happened, jb would've been captured. And d rest history...
& thr's one more sensitive point...
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Thing is easier say than done.
Shock and awe needed massive preparation.
For example sg have to call back most of the f15 and f16 from overseas, they also have to ask uncle sam to get most of their missile stockpile in gaum.
Such drastic movement will raise suspicious to all neighbours country.
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2016, 04:27 AM)
Thing is easier say than done.
Shock and awe needed massive preparation.
For example sg have to call back most of the f15 and f16 from overseas, they also have to ask uncle sam to get most of their missile stockpile in gaum.
Such drastic movement will raise suspicious to all neighbours country.
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thats even assuming Msia is gonna sit idly and wait for the chance for SG to stockpile weapons in preparation

we can sabotage the shipments for one

ahh feels like COD MW1 first ship mission laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2016, 04:27 AM)
Thing is easier say than done.
Shock and awe needed massive preparation.
For example sg have to call back most of the f15 and f16 from overseas, they also have to ask uncle sam to get most of their missile stockpile in gaum.
Such drastic movement will raise suspicious to all neighbours country.
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aside from a few on training missions, where would these f15/16 be based overseas? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Oct 1 2016, 02:58 AM)
only peninsular kut, Sarawak is too big for Sinkie to occupy.....
but then.......maybe like that, we can be one again biggrin.gif Let's start a war with Sinkies now! biggrin.gif
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SG may just let Sarawak & Sabah independent .... laugh.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2016, 04:27 AM)
Thing is easier say than done.
Shock and awe needed massive preparation.
For example sg have to call back most of the f15 and f16 from overseas, they also have to ask uncle sam to get most of their missile stockpile in gaum.
Such drastic movement will raise suspicious to all neighbours country.
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Hezbollah was very effective against Israel's f15 and f16s, they use anti tank missles and their home made rockets easily rain down on Israel.

Not saying that we wanna attack Singapork but an effective message is to build hidden short range missle launchers around south peninsular. Small island can easily rain down rockets...will cripple their economy.


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Also remember peninsular malaysia is ideal ground for insurgency. Small country with a mountainous spine and rather thick vegetation cover between all major urban areas make it fairly easy to hide a good number of guerrilla insugency groups. I'm pretty sure a good number of these groups will mushroom in a singaporean occupation scenario, especially from those Malay nationalist types.

Also in situations like this there will always be 'interested parties' that can make crates of AK 47s and oil drums full of bullets magically appear. laugh.gif

Anyone have any idea of SAF counterinsurgency doctrines and capabilities?

Anyway, I do feel that the region is too strategic to have open armed conflict and the great powers will do everything they can diplomatically to prevent anything like that from ever happening.

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After purchasing two Strategic Sealift Vessel (SSV) warships from PT PAL Indonesia, the Philippine government is considering putting in another order for a medical support vessel from Indonesia’s state-owned shipbuilder.

During the 2016 Asian Defense & Security (ADAS) exhibition in Manila, Philippine Secretary of National Defense Delfin Lorenzana held a discussion with Brig. Gen. Jan Pieter Ate from the Indonesian ADAS delegation on Indonesian defense products.

“The Secretary of National Defense and the Philippines Navy chief of staff are impressed with the medical support vessel that will be fit for humanitarian assistance and disaster relief (HADR) operations,” Jan Pieter, the Defense Ministry’s director of the defense industry and technology, told The Jakarta Post on Thursday.

According to Jan Pieter, the Philippine secretary of defense had shown a deep interest in the 123-meter vessel and spent a lot of time looking at the vessel’s mock-up.

It was reported that the Philippines had also put in an order for the CN235-200 and N212i aircraft from state-owned airplane maker PT Dirgantara Indonesia in 2015.

The three-day ADAS 2016 exhibition ends on Friday.

According to its official website, ADAS 2016 attracts exhibitors from around the world and works closely with the Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP), the Office of Civil Defense (OCD) and the Philippine Coast Guard (PCG). (evi


http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2016/09...pport-ship.html

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I dun encourage such A vs B discussion.
Mainly it was to prevent the thread going out of control.
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QUOTE(azriel @ Oct 1 2016, 10:25 AM)
Will be a good addition to the Philippines Navy if they manage to get the procurement done. A mobile facility that can be moved quickly to relieve areas (islands) affected by disaster is always a good thing, considering that Philippines have huge number of islands.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 1 2016, 02:56 AM)
Wanna gain military intel have to keep ears open la. laugh.gif

Again,this anecdote is said to be from an inside man in SAF itself. He stated that while the SAF is highly mechanized, it has relatively small numbers of logistics assets.
Any offensive has to be short and sharp, or risk consuming more supplies that the logistics tail can send forward.

Also said is that any assault would involve the professionals in the SAF only, as this source indicated that the reservists and NS men are unsuited for an extended campaign and will only be stationed in the defense of singapore island only.

I wouldnt be surprised if this is some sort of fiction,but on a harder look there may be grains of truths in the story.
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mechanized is the wrong word, more like integrated.. small logistics asset? every year 12k servicemen and equipment are sent overseas and back for training, which country in the region does that? from germany, to australia, taiwan, thailand, indo, US, brunei, india... i doubt any country have such readiness and capabilities.. with the new training ground in aus, soon its going to be 20k annually.. how long does it take for msia to send troops to lahad datu? or kelantan/pahang during flood? or indon to aceh during tsunami? or pinoy during haiyan?

not professionals, active duty... nsmen takes 3 hours to call up and probably 24hours to fully be fully equipped... roles and responsibilities depends on formation/unit you're based on.. guards & armor to punch, combined arms to win ground and occupy, 2pdf/idtf to hold singkieland

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 1 2016, 03:16 AM)
If this is the case I'll volunteer for (or even organize) an insurgent guerrilla group looking to covertly undermine the Singaporean occupation of Johor. If the SAF really want to occupy Johor, let's see how many NS men's blood is worth it.

Which malaysian patriots here in /k will (hypothetically) join me? laugh.gif
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i blieve with the current state, the sultan would most probably be more than happy to be join singkieland and they would annex johor.. geographically it would make more sense to take batu pahat to mersing, easier for defense

QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 1 2016, 05:03 AM)
still kinda impossible, even if bulk of armed forces gone, guerillas and resistance fighters will appear and bla bla

how will Sinkie maintain control with meagre amount of manpower also?
though if complete victory by pure genocide then.. laugh.gif
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that's ww2 mindset, the objective of singkieland is not to occupy but to achieve the objective planned.. most likely to remove threat, short term and long term

QUOTE(yinchet @ Oct 1 2016, 06:27 AM)
Thing is easier say than done.
Shock and awe needed massive preparation.
For example sg have to call back most of the f15 and f16 from overseas, they also have to ask uncle sam to get most of their missile stockpile in gaum.
Such drastic movement will raise suspicious to all neighbours country.
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that's what they are training for.. soon singkieland assets in mainland murica (25% of total) will be moved to guam and aus... majority of planes are still in singkieland..

missiles are not in guam but are stored in mainland..

QUOTE(marfccy @ Oct 1 2016, 07:01 AM)
thats even assuming Msia is gonna sit idly and wait for the chance for SG to stockpile weapons in preparation

we can sabotage the shipments for one

ahh feels like COD MW1 first ship mission laugh.gif
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lol, their stockpile is already there... singkie's military industrial complex is one of the biggest in the region


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aside from a few on training missions, where would these f15/16 be based overseas?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Oct 1 2016, 12:00 PM)
Hezbollah was very effective against Israel's f15 and f16s, they use anti tank missles and their home made rockets easily rain down on Israel.

Not saying that we wanna attack Singapork but an effective message is to build hidden short range missle launchers around south peninsular. Small island can easily rain down rockets...will cripple their economy.
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yea, hezbollah downed a lot of idf planes, their anti tank missiles are a big problem for those planes.. i think that's why they are producing flyign merkavas to counter anti air missiles.. poor jews with their iron dome get whack

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 1 2016, 12:07 PM)
Also remember peninsular malaysia is ideal ground for insurgency. Small country with a mountainous spine and rather thick vegetation cover between all major urban areas make it fairly easy to hide a good number of guerrilla insugency groups. I'm pretty sure a good number of these groups will mushroom in a singaporean occupation scenario, especially from those Malay nationalist types.

Also in situations like this there will always be 'interested parties' that can make crates of AK 47s and oil drums full of bullets magically appear. laugh.gif

Anyone have any idea of SAF counterinsurgency doctrines and capabilities?

Anyway, I do feel that the region is too strategic to have open armed conflict and the great powers will do everything they can diplomatically to prevent anything like that from ever happening.
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why would singkieland want to occupy msia? besides johor, other states bring no strategic benefit to them...

war between msia n singkieland will not happen.. at least not in our life time
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The Philippine Air Force is looking to procure additional KAI FA-50 aircraft, as well as additional rotary-wing, transport, and combat aircraft. ce: IHS/James Hardy

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• Philippine Air Force (PAF) wants to buy an additional KAI FA-50s and Leonardo AW109 helicopters
• Saab's Gripen in pole position to secure PAF multirole combat aircraft requirement

The Philippine Air Force (PAF) has identified several procurement priorities as it continues its medium-term modernisation programme, Flight Plan 2028.

Speaking at the Asian Defence and Security 2016 (ADAS 2016) exhibition in Manila, a senior PAF officer involved in the planning of Flight Plan 2028 said these priorities include securing orders of additional light combat aircraft and attack helicopters.

The PAF ordered 12 FA-50 light combat aircraft in March 2014, with deliveries starting in December 2015 and scheduled to conclude in late 2017. The officer said the PAF is aiming to procure an additional 36 FA-50s in order to meet a requirement specified in Flight Plan 2028 to "detect, intercept, and neutralise" any perceived threat in its exclusive economic zone (EEZ).

He also confirmed that the PAF would look to secure government approval for the additional FA-50s following the delivery of the initial 12 aircraft.

In addition, the official said the PAF is seeking to procure 12 more AW109 Power light attack helicopters produced by Finmeccanica (Leonardo from January 2017). The PAF has already acquired eight AW109s ordered in November 2013 and delivered from 2014.

The official confirmed that the requirement for additional AW109s had become more urgent for the PAF since president Rodrigo Duterte took office in June 2016.

He said Duterte has tasked the PAF with focusing on addressing anti-terrorism and anti-insurgency, and as a result the Philippine administration has moved the new AW109 acquisition into the so-called 'second horizon' procurement plan, which runs from 2018-23. The requirement was previously scheduled for the third horizon, he confirmed.

According to the official, other near-term procurement priorities include close air-support (CAS) aircraft and additional transport aircraft, while a longer-term requirement is multirole combat aircraft.


http://www.janes.com/article/64232/adas-20...ment-priorities

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I agree. If it goes on for too long, definitely the topic deserved its own thread.
Will be a good addition to the Philippines Navy if they manage to get the procurement done. A mobile facility that can be moved quickly to relieve areas (islands) affected by disaster is always a good thing, considering that Philippines have huge number of islands.
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'Growing' Bullets: US Marines Start Testing 3D-Printed Ammo During Drills

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A number of bizarre things have been created through 3D printers. Cookies, bionic ears, and even human stem cells have all been successfully printed. But as with most technologies, the Pentagon is hoping it can utilize 3D printing for its own purposes.

To that end, the US Marine Corps achieved a milestone last week, printing and detonating an indirect fire munition. According to Capt. Chris Wood, co-lead of 3D printing for Deputy Commandant of Installations and Logistics Lt. Gen. Michael, the test was successful, and suggests that the production method could allow the Corps to customize munitions for individual missions.

"One of the benefits of being able to precisely control the way that a munition or warhead is 'grown' through [additive manufacturing] is that we think we’ll be able to tailor the blast and associated fragmentation to achieve specific effects for particular targets, heights, collateral damage, or even environmental considerations," Wood said, according to Military.com.

"Some of this can be done currently with very expensive, hand-made munitions, but [additive manufacturing] allows us to do it better, faster and likely cheaper."

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The technology could also be used to manufacture spare parts for the Corps’ aging vehicles.

"Where production has been done for 20, 30 years, and they don’t even assign [national service numbers] to some of these parts because they don’t expect them to ever be replaced because they don’t plan for that piece of equipment to go beyond that life cycle," Wood said.

"Rather than using duct tape and coat hangers and gum and all these other things, which literally occurs in the battlefield, we have this new design tool we can use."

While 10 Marine Corps units have already been given 3D printers, the technology is far from perfected and probably won’t see real use for another decade at minimum.


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Nice pics of the Indonesian Marine Corps BTR-4M arrivals. Photo by Andre Saleh - Angkasa.

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J-10 from PLAAF 24th Fighter Division crashes

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The Chinese internet is circulating a photo purported to be a J-10 crash near Yangcun on Sept. 28.

The base is home to the 24th Fighter Division and it is unknown if the mishap aircraft is with the 72th Air Regiment or August 1st aerobatic team.

The pilot is said to have ejected safely. Cause of the crash was engine failure due to bird strike.


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KUALA LUMPUR • The High Court in Kuala Lumpur has ordered a policewoman to enter a defence on a charge of intentionally hiding information related to terrorist activities from the authorities.

The policewoman in question, Corporal Jusninawati Abdul Gani, 35, had knowledge of terrorist activities, a fact established by the prosecution, who proved that she was in the know about a suspicious individual leaving for Syria on Nov 12, 2014, reported Bernama news agency.

However, Jusninawati, who is attached to the Petaling Jaya district police headquarters, did not provide that information, nor subsequent information that she came across, to the police.

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She has now been charged with intentional omission of information relating to terrorist acts at the police headquarters between August 2015 and March this year.

"The police's role is to maintain peace and uphold the law. This is clear that as a member of the police force, the accused is bound by law to inform such information to the authorities," observed High Court Judicial Commissioner Datuk Nordin Hassan at yesterday's hearing of the charges.

He subsequently set Nov 10 for Jusninawati to enter her defence.

She has been charged under Section 130M of the Penal Code and faces imprisonment for up to seven years, a fine, or both if found guilty.

Deputy public prosecutor Ezrene Zakariah is the prosecutor in the case. Jusninawati was represented by lawyers Nik Zarith Nik Moustpha and Adi Zulkarnain Zulkafli.

It is not the first incident where Malaysian security personnel have been accused of aiding and abetting terror activities.

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According to Malaysian Defence Minister Hishammuddin Hussein, armed forces personnel suspected to be involved with the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) make up 1 per cent of the militants in the country identified by the authorities so far.

Mr Hishammuddin, who was speaking to reporters after launching the 40th Pacific Armies Management Seminar on Monday, did not reveal the exact number of soldiers who have been identified.

In another revelation, Malaysian Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi said on Wednesday that officers of the Eastern Sabah Security Command may have leaked vital information to the Abu Sayyaf terror group in the Philippines, allowing them to launch kidnap-for-ransom attacks in the waters off Sabah.

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"We believe money obtained from kidnappings is then channelled to Katibah Nusantara to strengthen its position in South-east Asia and to finance terror activities," he said in reference to a group of Indonesian and Malaysian ISIS-affiliated fighters.

Malaysia's battle against terror heightened last year after it was revealed that national leaders, including Prime Minister Najib Razak, were being targeted.

In April last year, Malaysia enacted the Prevention of Terrorism Act, which gives the authorities the power to detain suspects without trial for two years. In all, 240 suspected terrorists have been detained in Malaysia since late 2013.
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One of These Aircraft Will Be the Army's Next Helicopter



The U.S. Army's fleet of helicopters—the AH-64 Apache attack helicopter, UH-60 Blackhawk medium lift helicopter, and CH-47 heavy lift helicopter—are all about 30 years old or older. The Joint Multi Role (JMR) program looks to replace all of these aging birds with a common design that will be faster, more agile, and carry more troops and cargo farther than ever before. Ultimately the program could cost up to $100 billion and replace anywhere from 2,000 to 4,000 helicopters.

The video above, released ahead of the annual Association of the U.S. Army conference and trade show in October, showcases the main competing designs.

Let's start with the JMR Medium rotorcraft, meant to replace the UH-60 Blackhawk, with an armed variant that will replace the AH-64 Apache. The first contender you see in the video is the Bell Helicopter V-280 Valor, a tiltrotor design that resembles a cross between the Blackhawk and the V-22 Osprey, with a split canted tail for good measure.

The second contender in the video is the Sikorsky-Boeing SB-1 Defiant. The Defiant uses two sets of coaxial rotors and a push propeller, technology proven in the S-97 Raider.

JMR Medium is just a start, however. As you've likely guessed, there are plans for Light, Heavy, and Very Heavy versions of the new aircraft, too. The Army wants a lighter scout and observation machine, and on the other end of the spectrum, a much heavier version capable of replacing the CH-47 Chinook helicopter and even the C-130 Hercules.

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AVX concept art for its Joint Multi-Role Medium rotorcraft entry. Via AVX.

Bell and Sikorsky-Boeing may be aerospace juggernauts, but these two aren't the only firms in the running. AVX aircraft has proposed a coaxial rotor design like the Defiant, but also uses a pair of ducted fans for forward propulsion. The result (seen at the 1:27 mark and pictured above) looks like a large, squat beetle.

Finally, Karem Aircraft has proposed another tiltrotor and promises a "robust hover capability." Although a relatively new and small company, the company namesake and leader Abraham Karem is the man behind the iconic Predator drone. This aircraft isn't in the video—and there isn't much concept imagery either—but you can check out some renderings here.

First flights for the Bell and Sikorsky-Boeing aircraft are due in 2017, with Karem following in 2018 or 2019.

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Exercise Wallaby: Air force, ground units experience special drills

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The Singapore Armed Forces has unleashed its F-15 fighter jets in Exercise Wallaby for the first time - giving pilots the chance to improve coordination between the Republic's air and land operations.

The annual Australian training drill, held at Queensland's Shoalwater Bay, has also offered new, "more realistic" training opportunities, said Third Warrant Officer (3WO) Wong Chu Bi, 30, an air crew specialist at 122 Squadron.

The wargames, which began about two weeks ago, involve about 4,600 SAF personnel and take place over a space four times the size of Singapore.

F-15 pilot Nah Jinping, 29, told The Straits Times yesterday the exercise has already helped boost communication between the army and the F-15 planes, with both sides now using the same terms to identify some objects.

"Initially, we used different terms to describe the same object or outcome," she said.



"There was a lot of clarification that went on in the air, which led to a slightly longer time to achieve a certain mission objective - like bombing a tank, for example."

Major Nah added that she also spent time learning about army procedures to complete missions more quickly.

The pilot from the 149 Squadron said the F-15 can carry "a lot more" firepower than the F-16 fighter jet, meaning it can take out targets at a faster rate.

The F-15s were declared fully operational in September 2013, but did not take part in Wallaby before. Their presence also offers other personnel new training opportunities.

Second-Lieutenant Vincent Wong, 20, an RBS70 missile system firing unit commander, said the jet allows ground-based air defence units to learn what to do when facing an F-15 at night.

Field conditions at Exercise Wallaby mean it is completely dark at night, unlike in Singapore where there might still be distant light from the city.

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"The aircraft can use the low light conditions to its advantage and adopt different tactics," he said. "We, as the ground-based air defenders, can use this as a learning opportunity."

3WO Wong said that in one exercise scenario, he was among the crew of a C-130 transport aircraft that was being chased by an F-15 aircraft, which was simulating an enemy. After it managed to escape, the C-130 dropped supplies for ground troops.

Such a scenario would have been difficult to create in Singapore due to the limited airspace and limited flying time available.

"It's more realistic," he said. "There may be a chance that we'd be chased by fighter aircraft, so after you've survived, you still need to drop the supplies for your ground troops."

Exercise Wallaby will end on Nov 7.

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Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) land exercise: Ex SUMAN WARRIOR 16

From 19 to 29 Sep, 45 SAF personnel and over 135 personnel from Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand and the United Kingdom took part in Ex Suman Warrior. Hosted by the Malaysian Armed Forces (MAF) in Malacca this year, the Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) land exercise was a command post exercise involving the planning of combined task force operation. Exercise Suman Warrior, held for the 26th time this year, aims to enhance interoperability and provides a platform for professional exchange amongst the FPDA armies.
Let’s take a look at some of the highlights of the exercise!

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‘The White Helmets’ Offers an Intimate Look at Aleppo




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The White Helmets, from the makers of the excellent Virunga, depicts the trials of the volunteers. The filmmakers gave 21-year-old Khaleed Khateeb — a Syrian journalist working with the SCD — a camera to document the conflict in high definition video.
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The SCD is currently nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize. Watch The White Helmets to see why. It’s only 40 minutes long and well worth every minute.


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North Korean Fighter Jet Screws Up During Very First Public North Korean Air Show




Fear of screwing up in front of a very large group of people is a fear that rules most. It must skyrocket during large public displays, like at the Wonsan Air Festival in North Korea earlier this month. Especially if you land your MiG-21 clumsily in front of a group of spectators. And you live in North Korea.

The tail strike incident happened at North Korea’s very first airshow, where all types of aviation enthusiasts were invited to attend. Like, international ones. Like, as guests.

It looks like the plane came in at too steep an angle. Everything was fine after, but damn, that could have been a lot worse.

There are very real concerns about North Koreans who screw up in public, so hopefully the pilot is alright after this little oopsie.

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‘The White Helmets’ Offers an Intimate Look at Aleppo



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Look familiar? Iran says its 'new' attack drone is modeled on captured U.S. aircraft

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Iran's Revolutionary Guard has built a new attack drone which is similar to a U.S. unmanned aerial vehicle captured five years ago, Iranian media reported on Saturday.

The semi-official Tasnim news agency says the 'Saegheh' (Thunderbolt) drone is similar to the RQ-170 Sentinel spy drone.

It was unveiled at an expo showcasing the latest achievements by the Revolutionary Guards' aerospace arm.


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Step inside the Russian school where children train with AK-47s as a reward for academics

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The General Yermolov Cadet School, named after Alexei Yermolov, a former Russian general and hero of the Caucasus War, teaches boys and girls a normal curriculum mixed with patriotism, military discipline, and maneuvers.


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Houthis just sunk the HSV Swift.


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singkie also got... msia also got kadet remaja / ns?


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New CN-235 MPA for the Indonesian Air Force ready for test flight at PT DI facility. This new MPA is equipped with the Selex SAGE 600 Electronic Warfare System. Credit to Hindawan H.

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what do u expect from harcore Russian lovers ? it is typical comment u can see in all jazeera new,cnn or any news,anything related to Russian act of aggression in Syria.
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New CN-235 MPA for the Indonesian Air Force ready for test flight at PT DI facility. This new MPA is equipped with the Selex SAGE 600 Electronic Warfare System. Credit to Hindawan H.

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I thought cable for radio antenna are dead already.
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Detail of the SAGE ESM.

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SAGE ESM (ELECTRONIC SUPPORT MEASURE)

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SAGE is a digital ESM / ELINT for RF intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance missions. Delivering a situational awareness capability, SAGE provides RF signal analysis for intelligence gathering and tactical responses. It has both single and multi-platform geo-location of RF assets, parallel wideband and channelised receivers, and delivers instantaneous detection and ELINT analysis. SAGE is suitable for a range of aircraft from tactical UAVs and light helicopters to larger reconnaissance and maritime patrol aircraft.


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kr/ns is nuthin compared to pkbm
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what do u expect from harcore Russian lovers ? it is typical comment u can see in all jazeera new,cnn or any news,anything related to Russian act of aggression in Syria.
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Houthis Claim to Shoot Down a UAE Navy Vessel With a Missile Near Yemen (VIDEO)



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Pentagon Paid for Fake ‘Al Qaeda’ Videos

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The Pentagon gave a controversial UK PR firm over half a billion dollars to run a top secret propaganda program in Iraq, the Bureau of Investigative Journalism can reveal.
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The agency’s staff worked alongside high-ranking U.S. military officers in their Baghdad Camp Victory headquarters as the insurgency raged outside.
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Bell, one of Britain’s most successful public relations executives, is credited with honing Margaret Thatcher’s steely image and helping the Conservative party win three elections. The agency he co-founded has had a roster of clients including repressive regimes and Asma al-Assad, the wife of the Syrian president.
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Bell Pottinger’s work in Iraq was a huge media operation which cost over a hundred million dollars a year on average. A document unearthed by the Bureau shows the company was employing almost 300 British and Iraqi staff at one point.
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The work consisted of three types of products. The first was television commercials portraying al Qaeda in a negative light. The second was news items which were made to look as if they had been “created by Arabic TV”, Wells said. Bell Pottinger would send teams out to film low-definition video of al Qaeda bombings and then edit it like a piece of news footage. It would be voiced in Arabic and distributed to TV stations across the region, according to Wells.
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The third and most sensitive program described by Wells was the production of fake al Qaeda propaganda films. He told the Bureau how the videos were made. He was given precise instructions: “We need to make this style of video and we’ve got to use al Qaeda’s footage,” he was told. “We need it to be 10 minutes long, and it needs to be in this file format, and we need to encode it in this manner.”
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US marines would take the CDs on patrol and drop them in the chaos when they raided targets. Wells said: “If they’re raiding a house and they’re going to make a mess of it looking for stuff anyway, they’d just drop an odd CD there.”

The CDs were set up to use Real Player, a popular media streaming application which connects to the internet to run. Wells explained how the team embedded a code into the CDs which linked to a Google Analytics account, giving a list of IP addresses where the CDs had been played.

The tracking account had a very restricted circulation list, according to Wells: the data went to him, a senior member of the Bell Pottinger management team, and one of the U.S. military commanders.

Wells explained their intelligence value. “If one is looked at in the middle of Baghdad…you know there’s a hit there," he said. "If one, 48 hours or a week later shows up in another part of the world, then that’s the more interesting one, and that’s what they’re looking for more, because that gives you a trail.”

The CDs turned up in some interesting places, Wells recalled, including Iran, Syria, and even America.


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Malaysia probing possible security leak

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KUALA LUMPUR • Malaysia's armed forces are investigating a possible leak of classified intelligence between officers and agencies under the Eastern Sabah Security Command (Esscom) which may have been used by kidnappers.

General Zulkifeli Mohd Zin, Malaysia's Chief of Armed Forces, said he was inclined to agree with Deputy Prime Minister Ahmad Zahid Hamidi as kidnappings were happening too smoothly.

"They always seem to know where to show up and where to target, like the most recent one last Thursday," he said at a press conference on Friday.

On Wednesday, Datuk Seri Zahid said he was not ruling out the possibility that Esscom personnel might have leaked vital information to cross-border kidnappers, allowing them to launch attacks in the waters off Sabah, including abducting a fishing trawler owner on Tuesday.

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But the owner, Mr Ruslan Nasir Sarapin, 39, has been released by his Filipino abductors, police said yesterday, without disclosing immediate details on the events leading to the quick release of the hostage.

Gen Zulkifeli questioned how the abductors knew the exact location of the boat at that time and that its owner would be on board.

"The abductors were not just wandering around hoping to come across targets. They must have identified their targets based on hard information," he said.

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Gen Zulkifeli, who is also the director-general of the National Security Council, said the kidnappers also seemed to know the locations of patrolling ships in order to avoid detection.

"This, coupled with the vast 1,700km stretch of the Sabah shoreline, makes our job of safeguarding the waters very difficult," he said.

Gen Zulkifeli was speaking to the press after attending the handing over of duties ceremony between outgoing Armed Forces Joint Force Commander Shahrani Mohd Sany and incoming Lieutenant-General Fadzil Mokhtar.

Prime Minister Najib Razak said information leaks are not an excuse for security forces not to make more concerted efforts to end the kidnapping problem.

"I feel that this is a blow to us and the Deputy Prime Minister feels the same," Datuk Seri Najib said. "Nevertheless, we want new actions by the security forces, which I will take up with them."

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Also I hear the main strategy in a war with malaysia would be establishing a sustainable buffer zone instead of looking to defeat the malaysian armed forces in detail as they simply aren't structured for a long campaign.
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Active duty NSmen will be involved. I know for certain they do use NSmen in their commando, Guards, tank and artillery units.

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I think we just voicing out opinion on a hypothetical scenario. See previous posts,if ts think any are over the line feel free to take action.

Also I like to think we here at military /k are more reasonable and have better grasp of military realities than people at regular /k, amirite?

certainly not to MALAYSIA STRONKl! NO,SINGAPORE STRONK! primary school levels.laugh.gif
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Any scenarios involving Singapore and Malaysia going to war belongs in a novel or in a military academy syllabus because it doesn't make sense at the present day.

there is no reason for both countries to be at each other throats other than to satisfy the fantasies of immature people who have the luxury of not seeing the true face of war.bersyukur dengan keamanan yang ada people
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Hezbollah was very effective against Israel's f15 and f16s, they use anti tank missles and their home made rockets easily rain down on Israel.

Not saying that we wanna attack Singapork but an effective message is to build hidden short range missle launchers around south peninsular. Small island can easily rain down rockets...will cripple their economy.
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Singkie is probably #1 country which can easily acquire Iron Dome. IMHO no point repeating failed tactic. Besides their GMLRS and ARTHUR can easily do counterbattery fires

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my school cadet was under Rejimen Ke-2 Kor Armor Diraja..... almost every weeks has to go back to school to learn kawat and basic military stuff..... everyone will get 2 sets of uniform.... makan minum and transport all covered by Kor Armor.... they send army truck to pick us to camp and once a while they will send us back to school in armored vehicles... so, naik Samba and congo like naik bas that time.... we have chance to touch and feel all sort of weapons from 9mm to FN MAG... but M16A1 is the one we used the most...kawat also using it.. while in camp, during break time...we can chat with abang abang there and we can panjat any armored vechiles at Rejimen Ke-2 Armor Diraja...

once awhile also we will train with Afats (Armed Force Apprentice Trade School)....

i will not say it is sort of enlistment like askar wataniah... more like school curriculum whereby ppl can pull out anytime... my school has PKBM (Pasukan Kadat Bersatu Malaysia), another high school is Kadet Polis.....




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Russian Armed Forces to have new Ratnik-3 outfit with built-in exoskeleton

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MOSCOW, October 1. /TASS/. A totally new Ratnik-3 combat outfit with a built-in exoskeleton and a target designation system on the visor is being created for the Russian Armed Forces, Army commander Col. Gen. Oleg Salyukov told journalists.

Salyukov said the issue of improving the Ratnik outfit, which is operational, is being worked out in the Ratnik-3 research work.

"I think the most successful technical solutions from Ratnik will be included in it, but it will be an outfit of a totally new level by all components - protection, destruction, life support, control and power supply, with the use of exoskeleton constructions, information and target designation on the visor or eyewear, microclimate maintenance and the serviceman’s condition monitoring systems ," he said.

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Houthi Rebels Claim They Blew Up the Former U.S. Navy Ship ‘Swift’

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Swift was never designed to take a hit. A catamaran with an aluminum hull, vessels like Swift are thinly armored, and if hit with a missile they will burn. However, the aluminum, angular and low-draft hull makes the catamaran fast — up to a brisk 45 knots at sprint speed — and able to operate close to shore.

The U.S. Navy’s Military Sealift Command leased her from Australian shipbuilder Incat between 2003 to 2013. America’s experience with Swift would later influence the boxy Spearhead-class fast transport vessel and the better-armed Littoral Combat Ship.

“I can say from experience that the aluminum hull design is NOT meant for taking damage,” one sailor who claimed to be stationed on Swift wrote in a Reddit post five years ago. “We’ve had a couple of our bigger dudes onboard drop a heavy squat from their shoulders in the gym and put a 2 inch gash in the deck. The aluminum hull is not rated for fire and if there was hot burning fire (say from AVgas) it would literally melt the ship in half.”

“Having said all that though, we are fast as fuck and can maneuver in places that a normal ship would not even dream of going. The superstructure is made to flex and can take a punishment as sea as well.”


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U.S. defense contractor Boeing and South Korean aircraft manufacturer Korean Air Aerospace Division (KAL-ASD) signed a memorandum of agreement (MOA) on September 21 to jointly develop an unnamed variant of the U.S.-made MD500 light attack helicopter for the Republic of Korea (ROK) Army and the international market, according to a September 22 Korean Air press release.

Boeing will provide technical support, including for flight control, and both companies will also market exports of the MD500. “Korean Air successfully remodeled the ROK Air Force’s retired MD500 helicopters to unmanned helicopters from 2014 to May 2016,” the press release notes. “Based on this success, Korean Air has launched a new project that will run until 2017 to remodel MD500 helicopters into unmanned armed helicopters.”

As I reported previously (See: “South Korea Unveils Unmanned Combat Helicopter”), the unmanned MD500 light helicopter gunship, dubbed KUS-VH, is the result of extensive technology cooperation between Boeing and Korean Air as a part of the U.S. defense contractor’s offset obligation following South Korea’s decision to acquire 36 AH-64E Apache attack helicopters in 2013.

The MD500 would be an ideal addition to the ROK Army’s new fleet of AH-64E Apache gunships and could serve as a reconnaissance unnamed aerial vehicle (UAV) guiding the heavily armored attack helicopters. “Equipped with a so-called manned-unmanned teaming (MUM-T) capability, the AH-64E Apaches’ slated to be delivered to South Korea will already come equipped to control the sensors and weapon systems of UAVs,” I explained elsewhere.

However, the unmanned helicopter will also be armed. “The new MD500 armed unmanned helicopter will not only be able to perform day and night reconnaissance and surveillance missions but will also be able to conduct a short-distance precision strike, a feature which will maximize the helicopter’s usage at the front line when an immediate response is required,” the press release notes.

During the 2015 Seoul International Aerospace & Defense Exhibition, a full-sized mockup of the unmanned MD500 variant was armed with two Lockheed Martin AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missiles and a pod of 2.75 inch-diameter rockets.


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what did UK send this time? 2 staff and a biplane? doh.gif
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their raf typhoons just landed in butterworth
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/royal-a...ima-16-02102016
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their raf typhoons just landed in butterworth
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/royal-a...ima-16-02102016
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AHRAR AL-SHAM SHELLS GOVERNMENT POSITIONS IN HAMA MILITARY AIRPORT WITH GRAD MISSILES (VIDEO)



The Ahrar al-Sham militant group has released a footage of shelling of the Syrian government forces’ positions in the Hama military airport. The militants used Grad missiles to do so.

Some pro-government sources say this works this way:

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their raf typhoons just landed in butterworth
http://www.raf.mod.uk/news/archive/royal-a...ima-16-02102016
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Wow I am surprised, previous couple of years the Brits hardly sent more than a few observers

QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Oct 3 2016, 09:29 AM)
Yes zero F-15 but how many Israeli F-15 and F-16 actually hit Hezbollah targets? without hitting on civilians?

You use a 1 mil bomb to hunt down a Hezbollah guerilla carrying an anti missle on a kapcai? Imagine how hard is that.

Let say one iron dome missle cost 2 mil while one cheap Hezbollah home made rocket only cost 20k. If you build many in Johor, can easily rain down on singapork. Easy target as the island is small. Same also for small Israel.
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Israel has been holding back because those cowards are hiding behind civilians. But if Hezbollah (or we) drop thousands of these on their civilians, you can expect the gloves to come off. Because this kind of attack doesn't affect the outcome of the war, its not targeted at any military unit, it can only kill civilians. That is why it is called a terror attack.

Not only will they not hold back, they will forget the fancy mini guided bomb with novel explosive for reduced civilian casualties and go back to the iron bombs, which will be lots cheaper. They're also not so stupid as to hit 1 man with 1 bomb, they go for ammo dumps and groups and leaders. Meanwhile their army strikes into Johor just like Lebanon 2006 to push the rockets out of range of SG.

Those rockets don't have much range you know. Less than 155mm artillery.
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kr/ns is nuthin compared to pkbm
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Beijing should make Singapore "pay the price for seriously damaging China's interests" with retaliations and sanctions, an influential Chinese military advisor has said.

Professor Jin Yinan, of the Public Liberation Army's National Defence University, made the remarks on Chinese-state radio on Thursday (29 September), reported the South China Morning Post.

The statement is the latest offensive in an on-going war of words over the South China Sea dispute after the Global Times, a Chinese newspaper, reported that Singapore endorsed the Philippines' case to bring international arbitration against China.

Speaking on China National Radio, the SCMP reported that Yinan said: "It's inevitable for China to strike back at Singapore, and not just on the public opinion front.

"Since Singapore has gone thus far, we have got to do something, be it retaliation or sanction. We must express our discontent."

Singapore allegedly lodged the claims against China at the latest summit of the Non-Aligned Movement in Venezuela.
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Johor is so near to Spore, you don't need long range. Also the Hamas and Hezbollah has managed to extend the range further than artillery thanks to Iranian help. These mobile rockets can be launch anywhere carried by donkeys, so hard to detect.

This is precisely what I am saying the advantage we have over Spore, if they want to launch air strikes sure would incur civilian casualties in which can make more noise to UN. Then if they were to occupy the stretch of land buffer to prevent rocket attacks, still can launch guerilla attacks like what Hezbollah did to Israel.
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The rockets which have longer range are also more expensive. Forget about any kind of guidance too. The one who would be incurring civilian casualties and become the UN's enemy would be us, if we choose to hide in Johor Bahru and bombard their cities rolleyes.gif

Inb4 5,000 Johor commandoes inkambing
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I tot 5000 Johor commando for show only?

Their combat ability should be greatly reduced since they left active duty right?

My take on mas vs sg

It'll be a war on attrition (looking from the fact sg is the aggressor la)

We will probably suffer heavy tech losses from sg bombardment, but as defender, we would bleed them with guerilla warfare over vital resources they've captured.

On top of that, as defender, we can make a lot of noise to UN thus limiting US involvement, on top of indon would probably provide assistant in blockading all port and sea way.

China probably would want to get involve as local regional 'policeman' and who's side China is on is vital! And we will not be able to predict that.

The only scary part is when sg + indon as aggressor, then we definitely will loss Borneo, and sea blockade for aid to us.

Then really Balik tongsan d
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looks like after lcs (littoral combat ship) project the navy will have the lms (littoral mission ship) project
as always partnership with foreign builder and locally built like the lcs project
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No need guidance, the whole Singapore is so compact. The germans when they struck London in WW2, they didn't need guidance because London is so big they knew it would hit anywhere.

The rockets would only be fired if attack by their F-15 and F-16s. So no need to just shoot out of the blue. Got good reason for retaliation.
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In 35 years of military and CIA service, the Blackbird became legendary for its blistering top speed and sinister appearance. But a just-released, formerly top-secret official CIA history underscores the Blackbird’s lesser-known but equally important accomplishment.

In addition to being really, really fast, the Blackbird was also the world’s first operational stealth warplane—an honorific that most historians currently reserve for the 1980s-vintage F-117.
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The Blackbird’s stealth qualities took shape at a secret base in Nevada that would come to be known as Area 51. A small team of engineers tweaked and tested the spy plane’s radar-reflectivity, pursuing the two main principles of stealthiness—materials and shaping.
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“The airframe areas giving the greatest radar return were the vertical tail, the inlet and the forward side of the engine nacelles,” the CIA noted. “An improvement in the chine [the side edge of the plane’s fuselage] and wing regions was also being looked at.” The engineers experimented with new ceramic materials with high degrees of magnetic permeability and low conductivity, meaning they can suck up electromagnetic energy such as radar.
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The results were… disappointing. The Blackbird was a stealth jet. But it wasn’t as stealthy as the military and CIA had hoped it would be. “Enemy radar tracking was reported on all but four missions,” the agency admitted. Communist forces launched eight surface-to-air missiles at the Blackbirds. Seven missed. One exploding missile apparently managed to nick a Blackbird with a small metal fragment.
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Washington banned Blackbirds from flying directly over hostile territory unless they were assisted by electronic radar-jamming. But that doesn’t mean the Blackbird failed as a stealth plane.
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Indeed, the Mach-3 spy jet helped the Air Force and CIA to appreciate an important truth. Stealth alone can’t protect any plane. “There is no silver bullet,” Col. Alex Grynkewich, the Air Force officer heading the flying branch’s concept-development for its next stealth fighter, said… in 2016.
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Lolwut

The rockets which have longer range are also more expensive. Forget about any kind of guidance too. The one who would be incurring civilian casualties and become the UN's enemy would be us, if we choose to hide in Johor Bahru and bombard their cities rolleyes.gif

Inb4 5,000 Johor commandoes inkambing
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Seventy years after their heyday, World War II cargo planes are patrolling the skies over Colombia’s vast jungles. The AC-47T Fantasma is equipped with infrared sensors to scan the jungles below — and also packs three side-mounted .50-caliber Gatling guns.
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Under Project Talechaser, the Air Force fitted a C-47D with three M134 7.62-millimeter mini-guns — multi-barrel, Gatling-style weapons that could fire up to 6,000 rounds a minute. Even though they generally shot in shorter bursts to conserve ammunition, the sheer density of firepower they put out made them a devastating weapon. The “gunships” would orbit the battle area, banking at a 25-degree angle to keep its guns in line with the target.
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To avoid ground fire, the AC-47s primarily flew at night — and thus earned the appellation “Spooky.” During the first several years of U.S. involvement in Vietnam, at least one AC-47 remained airborne at all times, ready to come to the defense of any isolated outposts that came under Viet Cong attack.
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After the U.S. turned down Colombia’s request for AC-130 gunships, in 1993 the Colombian military sent the first of seven AC-47s to the Basler Turbo company in Oshkosh, Wisconsin for modernization to the BT-67 standard. The cost — $5 million per plane
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Over time, some if not all of the Fantasmas received night-vision-goggle-compatible cockpits, targeting computers and upgraded weapons, including GAU-19 .50-caliber triple-barrel Gatling guns firing at a rate of up to 2,000 rounds per minute. At least one Fantasma mounts a 20-millimeter cannon.
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The Fantasmas typically fly with a crew of seven — a pilot, co-pilot, navigator, engineer and three gunners. They can remain aloft for up to 10 hours at a time as they observe the jungle, coordinate friendly aircraft, and provide fire support for troops on the ground. The Fantasma’s engines are frequently described as being remarkably quiet — allowing them to approach their targets unaware and unleash their terrifying firepower as a surprise.
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On Nov. 1, 1998, more than 1,300 FARC guerillas led by Mono Jojoy infiltrated Mitú, the state capital of Vaupés, an isolated state on the Brazilian border lacking road links to the rest of Colombia. The FARC laid siege to the police headquarters, killing 60 of the 120 officers there and kidnapping more than 80 officials including a general.
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A single AC-47 and two Bronco attack planes were the first government reinforcements on the scene. They struck targets in the city center to support the beleaguered police holdouts.
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As night fell, an AC-47 dropped flares to guide additional helicopters deploying troops to Querari. While launching the flares, the Fantasma crew detected a column of guerilla fighters approaching the area — and gunned down many of them.
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Mitú came back under government control soon thereafter. And in the following years, Fantasmas continued to serve as a fast-reaction force for besieged towns and outposts. One video from 2002 depicts policemen, pinned down by rebel fire in San Pablo, watching as a Fantasma rakes the surrounding hills with its guns.
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I see a higher chance that Malaysia and Singapore will work together to fight China in south China sea than a Singapore Vs Malaysia war
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Or against the Indons rolleyes.gif neither country has much more than a self defence capability lah, no matter what military hawks on either side believe whistling.gif

But its illuminating to see some of our people so inspired by terrorists who deliberately target civilians, and even more amusing to see they are the same ones bleating about civilian casualties inflicted by the other side whistling.gif

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wei2 no name calling whatever country
keep the tered civil pls

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 3 2016, 08:41 PM)
Or against the Indons rolleyes.gif neither country has much more than a self defence capability lah, no matter what military hawks on either side believe whistling.gif

But its illuminating to see some of our people so inspired by terrorists who deliberately target civilians, and even more amusing to see they are the same ones bleating about civilian casualties inflicted by the other side whistling.gif
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Inb4 SG no civilians, only nsman, nswoman, and nschild. laugh.gif
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kr/ns is nuthin compared to pkbm
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Oct 2 2016, 11:51 PM)
my school cadet was under Rejimen Ke-2 Kor Armor Diraja..... almost every weeks has to go back to school to learn kawat and basic military stuff..... everyone will get 2 sets of uniform.... makan minum and transport all covered by Kor Armor.... they send army truck to pick us to camp and once a while they will send us back to school in armored vehicles... so, naik Samba and congo like naik bas that time.... we have chance to touch and feel all sort of weapons from 9mm to FN MAG... but M16A1 is the one we used the most...kawat also using it.. while in camp, during break time...we can chat with abang abang there and we can panjat any armored vechiles at Rejimen Ke-2 Armor Diraja... 

once awhile also we will train with Afats (Armed Force Apprentice Trade School).... 

i will not say it is sort of enlistment like askar wataniah... more like school curriculum whereby ppl can pull out anytime...  my school has PKBM (Pasukan Kadat Bersatu Malaysia), another high school is Kadet Polis.....
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u gais went through 5 years of PKBM..? walao ohmy.gif

I only sempat 2 years Form 4-Form 5...sad only got rank Prebet..was not a very competent and a fit recruit.. sad.gif

but great experience, trained by the elite 10 Briged Para themselves at Kem Sungai Udang.. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif got one sniper dude from PANDURA, so cool train us..doesn't yell, treat us like his lil bros.. cry.gif

after M16 shooting training, those troops decided to give us a lil marksman show... 5 metal plates each team, he + 4 paratroop vs another group of 5 regular paratroopers...he alone accurately shot 4 out of 5 metal plates for his team.. 30 seconds later only the other team manage to shoot down their plates..dayum.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

but sadly kenot jump on an airplane too lulz..jelez of u sukhoi35mk cry.gif can ride armor...me only get on 3 ton lorry...and only shoot 21 rounds in M16... cry.gif cry.gif
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By: Aaron Mehta, October 3, 2016

HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Honolulu — Singapore remains interested in the F-35 joint strike fighter, but does not expect to procure the fifth-generation jet until the 2030 timeframe, Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen said Sept. 30.

“The F-35s are considered form a timeframe of 2030 and beyond for our defense needs, and in that light we are not in a hurry and we are still evaluating,” Ng said here following a meeting of the ASEAN defense ministers. “It’s a good plane, but our needs aren’t so urgent at this point and time.”

Singapore has long been linked to the F-35 program, and in February 2015 Joint Program Office head Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdan said he believed the country has “begun to take the next step toward making a decision.”

But since then, there has been little visible movement from Singapore towards procuring the jet. It is also unclear what variant of the jet the country might eventually seek to buy.

Ng believes his country’s crop of F-15s and F-16s will “last us well into the next one or two decades.” In December, Lockheed Martin obtained a $914 million contract to upgrade Singapore’s 60 plane F-16 fleet, with work occurring through 2023.

Asked if there was a geopolitical situation in the region that could spur the country to speed up a procurement decision on the jet, especially given the turmoil in the South China Sea, Ng replied confidently that the current plan is the right one.

“It will not be influenced by what happens in the south china sea, nor China’s military might,” he said. “We’ve acknowledged China is a military power. It is really dictated by what we feel is our needs, as well as how we can contribute to defense globally.”
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u gais went through 5 years of PKBM..? walao  ohmy.gif
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SG no $ to buy, 95% of budget goes to operational expenses. biggrin.gif
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What a Navy Ship's Last-Ditch Defense Looks Like



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More than 70 years later and chaff is still being used. In the video above the German frigate Karlsruhe fires off its Super Rapid Bloom Offboard Countermeasures Chaff and Decoy System—mercifully shortened to SRBOC.

SRBOC is a system of launcher tubes on both the port and starboard, each tube set at a slightly different angle so at least one is covering every position of the ship. Once fired, they create a new fake "ship" for the incoming missile, confusing it, and hopefully improving the defender's odds of survival. SRBOC uses aluminum-coated glass fibers that linger in the air longer instead of aluminum strips.

All modern navies have a countermeasures system similar to SRBOC. Some simply launch chaff, but the Karlsruhe appears to also have the TORCH infrared decoy system for fooling infra-red guided missiles hunting for its smokestack.

Here's a video of the US Navy destroyer USS McCampbell firing SRBOC in daytime. It's not as impressive, but does show the mortar-like launcher chugging away.


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QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Oct 3 2016, 06:25 PM)
No need guidance, the whole Singapore is so compact. The germans when they struck London in WW2, they didn't need guidance because London is so big they knew it would hit anywhere.

The rockets would only be fired if attack by their F-15 and F-16s. So no need to just shoot out of the blue. Got good reason for retaliation.
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nah, singkie will just stay neutral and be like switzerland while the rest of asean burns.. all the rich businessman will run and bring their $$$ to sg... just like how the swiss was in ww2

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Milrem's the Titan, the first fully modular, hybrid unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) that complies with the initial requirements put forth in the US Army’s Squad Multipurpose Equipment Transport Initiative.

The Estonian defence solutions provider, Milrem, and QinetiQ North America, a defence technology company, on Monday launched the Titan, the first fully modular, hybrid unmanned ground vehicle (UGV) that complies with the initial requirements put forth in the US Army’s Squad Multipurpose Equipment Transport Initiative.

Milrem and QinetiQ partnered to create the UGV that combines Milrem’s THeMIS (Tracked Hybrid Modular Infantry System), the first fully modular hybrid unmanned ground vehicle made for military applications, with QinetiQ’s robotic control technology – the TRC (Tactical Robot Controller) and RAK (Robotic Appliqué Kit).

“As a multi-mission vehicle platform, [the] Titan can assist and replace soldiers on the battlefield to perform complex and hazardous tasks,” the companies said in a statement.

Unlike the existing UGVs, the Titan is “a highly modular platform that allows different superstructures to be easily mounted and integrated onto the middle vehicular platform for complex missions such as rescue, transport, combat, and reconnaissance”, the statement said. “The flexibility and versatility of the system not only increases efficiency, but also significantly reduces warfighter and operator workload and lowers total life-cycle system costs.”


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Chinese Quantum Physicists Develop Ultra-Powerful, Anti-Stealth Military Radar

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The state-owned China Electronics Technology Group Corporation (CETC), one of the top Chinese military industry groups controlled directly by the central government, develops and deploys key hardware components, software, and information systems for military and civilian applications. Since March 2016, the CETC is also tasked with technical support to counter-terrorism.

According to a statement published on the CETC website, the new radar developed by engineers at CETC’s Intelligent Perception Technology Laboratory is China’s first “single-photon quantum radar system” and uses entangled photons to identify objects invisible to conventional radar systems, which has important military applications.

Quantum entanglement, the “spooky action at a distance” that baffled Einstein but was later recognized as a key feature of quantum systems, results in correlations between remote particles that, in some cases, can be exploited for remote sensing. Given the military applications of the projects, it’s not surprising that the CETC scientists have not disclosed detailed information. However, quantum radars studies have been published in the open scientific literature. See American Physical Society’s “Focus: Quantum Mechanics Could Improve Radar” for an overview.


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WASHINGTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--A revolutionary piece of new wearable technology that can turn clothing into networked technology is set to begin production. BAE Systems’ Broadsword® Spine® has been designed specifically as an alternative to the heavy portable data and power supplies currently carried by military and emergency service personnel. The company has agreed to an exclusive new partnership with world-leading e-textiles developer Intelligent Textiles Limited (ITL) to deliver the ground-breaking wearable product in high volumes at low cost.

Broadsword® Spine® is on display this week at the Association of the United States Army (AUSA) annual meeting in Washington, D.C. It is an e-textile based layer that, when added to a user’s clothing, creates an invisible electronic network and power supply, by using conductive fabrics instead of wires and cables. With the innovative network, users can plug vital electronic devices straight into their vest, jacket, or belt and have them instantly hooked into power and data via USB — all delivering an estimated 40 percent weight saving per user versus alternative solutions.

Working together, BAE Systems and ITL will be ready to deliver these lightweight devices to personnel including the armed forces, fire, and rescue services, as well as law enforcement, all of whom rely on carrying electronic equipment and having a durable power supply for long periods of use.

Broadsword® Spine® is also designed to be robust enough to operate in the harshest environments, including being resistant to water, fire, humidity, and shock — and can be easily recharged in the field via in-vehicle charging points or through simple battery replacements.

Paul Burke, director of Defense Information and Technology at BAE Systems Military Air and Information, said: “Broadsword® Spine® will deliver a lightweight, cable free, and better alternative to existing systems. It is the first product of our partnership with ITL and uses its revolutionary e-textile allowing power and data to move through fabric. It will be more flexible, robust, and lighter than the heavy, unwieldy harnesses that are currently used. Broadsword® Spine® offers an open architecture, meaning it could be used to power communications used by anyone from a soldier on the battlefield to a first responder called to an emergency.”


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Russia Launches the World’s Lightest Heavy Sniper Rifle Ever

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Weighing just 10 kilos, the high-precision 12.7mm sniper rifle Kord-M, also known as ASVK and 6V7M-1, is light enough to be carried for many miles without breaking its owner’s back. It is reported to be capable of penetrating up to 15 mm of armor and cutting through concrete and brick walls.

“A large-caliber sniper rifle should not be too light, because heavier ones have less recoil,” an army sharpshooter told Izvestia. “Leading makers of sniper rifles around the world always try to make their heavy rifles weigh less, but no one has so far been able to pare them down to just 10 kilos,” he added.

The Kord-M weighs less than its foreign counterparts, including the US-made M-82, used by Special Ops troops in virtually every developed country. It also exceeds them in the range of effective fire and is more accurate too.

The Barrett M82 rifle weighed around 13 kilograms, while its latest upgrade – the Barrett XM500 – weighs 11.8 kilos.
Britain’s makers are lagging a bit behind with their AS50 sniper rifle weighing 14.1 kg – just 900 grams less than its AW50 predecessor.

Moreover, with its extended effective range of fire (2 km) Russia’s Kord-M is way ahead of both the M82 and XM500 (just over 1,1 km) and the AS500 and AW50 (around 1.5 km).

“Right now the Kord-M is in the final stages of field trials. The first batch of Kord-Ms will enter service with our commando and paratroop units early next year and will eventually be supplied to Mountain troops,” a Defense Ministry representative told the newspaper.

Russian Special Ops troops currently use 12.7 mm Kord sniper rifles which are 1.5 meters-long and weigh 12 kilograms.

They enable a seasoned sniper to hit targets at a distance of up to 1.5 kilometers.

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suprisingly they has Ukraine Antonov
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Helikopter TUDM terhempas di Tawau
RODELIO JUNJUN TAUCAN | 04 Oktober 2016 9:51 AM

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TAWAU 4 Okt. - Sebuah helikopter milik Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) terhempas di Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (SMK) Balung di sini pagi ini.
Setakat ini, pihak berkuasa masih belum mengeluarkan apa-apa kenyataan mengenai kejadian itu.
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RODELIO JUNJUN TAUCAN  |  04 Oktober 2016 9:51 AM

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TAWAU 4 Okt. - Sebuah helikopter milik Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) terhempas di Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (SMK) Balung di sini pagi ini.
Setakat ini, pihak berkuasa masih belum mengeluarkan apa-apa kenyataan mengenai kejadian itu.
Jumlah mangsa yang terlibat juga masih belum diketahui.  - UTUSAN ONLINE
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KUALA LUMPUR: A Royal Malaysian Air Force (TUDM) carrying 14 passengers made an emergency landing near the Sekolah Menengah Balung, Tawau, Sabah at about 9.35am today.

TUDM in a statement said all those onboard are safe.

The helicopter had left the base at about 7.35 am for routine training, TUDM said.


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thankfully all safe, got news 4 student also injury (waiting confirm).
one more Nuri write off ...
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UK's Red Arrows aerobatic team to thrill Singapore again on Oct 13

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SINGAPORE - The Red Arrows are set to dazzle Singapore crowds again after last thrilling fans more than a decade ago.

The aerobatic team of the Britain's Royal Air Force will soar high into the Singapore sky at noon on Oct 13 in a 30-minute fly-past around the Marina Bay area.

The performance involves 10 planes and is free of charge.

The Red Arrows were first here in 1986, then 1996 and most recently in October 2003.

Red Arrows pilots fly the BAe Systems Hawk T. Mark 1, which is being used by the RAF as an advanced fast jet trainer. Each Hawk carries a bullet-shaped pod under its belly that enables the aircraft to emit red, white or blue smoke plumes during its aerobatics routine.



One of the world's premier aerobatic display teams, they are known for their Diamond 9 Formation.

The visit to Singapore is part of the team's visit to the Middle East and Asia, including countries like China, India and Malaysia to contribute to a campaign to showcase the best of what Britain has to offer.

During the visit the Red Arrows will take part in programmes that will promote Britain's long standing relations in Singapore aimed at increasing trade and investment. They will also be part of Rolls-Royce's STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) Event at the company's Seletar Campus on Oct 13.

British High Commissioner to Singapore Scott Wightman said: "We are excited by the visit of the Red Arrows and their participation in a number of activities in Singapore that will deepen the strong ties between Singapore and the UK."

Fans of the Red Arrows can use the hashtag #RedArrowsinSG across all social media platforms to get up to date information on the team's movement.


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Singapore Eyes F-35 for 2030 Time Frame


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HICKAM AIR FORCE BASE, Honolulu — Singapore remains interested in the F-35 joint strike fighter, but does not expect to procure the fifth-generation jet until the 2030 timeframe, Defense Minister Ng Eng Hen said Sept. 30.

“The F-35s are considered form a timeframe of 2030 and beyond for our defense needs, and in that light we are not in a hurry and we are still evaluating,” Ng said here following a meeting of the ASEAN defense ministers. “It’s a good plane, but our needs aren’t so urgent at this point and time.”

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Singapore has long been linked to the F-35 program, and in February 2015 Joint Program Office head Lt. Gen. Chris Bogdan said he believed the country has “begun to take the next step toward making a decision.”

But since then, there has been little visible movement from Singapore towards procuring the jet. It is also unclear what variant of the jet the country might eventually seek to buy.

Ng believes his country’s crop of F-15s and F-16s will “last us well into the next one or two decades.” In December, Lockheed Martin obtained a $914 million contract to upgrade Singapore’s 60 plane F-16 fleet, with work occurring through 2023.

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Asked if there was a geopolitical situation in the region that could spur the country to speed up a procurement decision on the jet, especially given the turmoil in the South China Sea, Ng replied confidently that the current plan is the right one.

“It will not be influenced by what happens in the south china sea, nor China’s military might,” he said. “We’ve acknowledged China is a military power. It is really dictated by what we feel is our needs, as well as how we can contribute to defense globally.”

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A floating nuclear power plant - off Singapore?

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The Fukushima nuclear plant disaster in 2011 left the world with a deep aversion to nuclear power.

However, the approval last month by Britain for the construction of a nuclear plant at Hinkley Point is a symbolic turning point.

Britain will pay £92.50 per megawatt hour of electricity produced (S$0.165/kwhr), rising with inflation, for 35 years, according to the Financial Times.

The price is substantially higher than the prevailing market rate for fossil fuels. The British government must have decided that the premium for the clean energy was worth paying. It is also a tacit acknowledgement that the harvesting of wind, solar and tidal current energies will not meet foreseeable demand.

Nuclear fission emits no pollutants or gases. A gas-, oil- or coal-fired power plant insidiously emits toxins and carbon dioxide, threatening life and destabilising the environment.

According to the Nuclear Energy Institute: "As of May 2016, 30 countries worldwide are operating 444 nuclear reactors for electricity generation, and 63 new nuclear plants are under construction in 15 countries."

In Asia, by 2030, China expects to have 150 gigawatts (GWe) of electricity - Malaysia, 1 GWe; Vietnam, 10 GWe; and Indonesia, 35 GWe. In France, 75 per cent of the energy is from nuclear sources.
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Is the nuclear option important for Singapore? Certainly. Ninety- five per cent of Singapore's energy needs are piped from Indonesia and Malaysia in the form of natural gas. The economy's heavy dependence on a single fuel type, and its mode of delivery, makes it vulnerable.

To diversify its procurement strategy, Singapore has built liquefied natural gas (LNG) storage and regasification facilities so that LNG can be shipped in addition to being piped. Storage facilities, including deep caverns and floating tank farms, have been developed.

However, LNG reserves are finite. Nobody is sure how much is left.

Renewable energy, such as solar power, is the only sustainable energy source for this century but the technologies to harness renewables economically still face challenges. Even if they are overcome elsewhere, in Singapore, the challenges will remain.

Solar energy is very costly because it is land-intensive. And renewable energy from hydro, wind and tidal current sources are not that available in Singapore.

THE ONLY VIABLE ANSWER

The nuclear option is the only viable one. However, with an area of 713 sq km, Singapore does not have the space for a nuclear power plant. (For Fukushima, an area within a 20km radius from the plant was declared unsafe, an area 75 per cent larger than Singapore).

Retired Cambridge University don Andrew Palmer, formerly Keppel Chair professor in the department of civil engineering at the National University of Singapore, advocates building a nuclear plant underground. He argues that, in this way, "any leak is contained, it is easier to defend the site against terrorism, and land is used more efficiently".

Leak or no leak, I wonder if anyone living or working above the plant will feel safe. Instead, I would like to propose that a nuclear plant, if needed, should be built at sea, as a floating platform. After all, in the event of a dangerous situation, we should move the plant - not the people around the plant. There is only one way to do this: The plant has to be afloat at sea.


The advent of Small Modular Reactors (SMRs) provides a viable solution. SMRs are serially manufactured fission reactors with capacities ranging from about 50 to 500 megawatts. A number of countries, notably Russia and France, produce SMRs.

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Each reactor module is transportable by sea. SMRs produce heat by fission of a nuclear material, emitting no gas. The heat may be used to produce steam to drive turbines or for desalination or other industrial processes.

Singapore is a world leader in offshore rig solutions. Although it would be a quantum leap, it is an incremental step to move from the construction of oil rigs to fSMRs. We need only to develop the expertise to install and commission the nuclear reactor. The skill set for the rest of the system downstream of the reactor is not new.
The systems downstream of the heat source are the same as those found in any conventional steam-turbine power plant.

A floating SMR power plant (or fSMR) consists of a nuclear fission reactor below the water line. The boiler drum, turbine, condenser, alternator and transformers are, for ease of operation and maintenance, installed above the water line. An air-gap between both improves stability.

The suite of offshore oil rigs - semi-submersibles, jack-ups, tension leg platforms, spars and drill ships - provides many possible solutions to the hull form.

Circulating water for the condenser comes from the sea beneath, eliminating space for cooling towers. The footprint of each fSMR is less than 100m in any direction. Its design is not site-specific. It can be installed anywhere with sufficient water depth, regardless of the geology of the seabed. It is deployable, and is easily replaced with a new one when it gets old.

These floating plants do not require refuelling for months or even years. Refuelling is done at a dedicated place to which they may be towed. Maintenance and decommissioning are carried out at an accredited shipyard. A spare fSMR can stand in during the time it is taken out of commission.

BUILDING SUCH PLANTS IS DO-ABLE

Singapore is a world leader in offshore rig solutions. Although it would be a quantum leap, it is an incremental step to move from the construction of oil rigs to fSMRs.

We need only to develop the expertise to install and commission the nuclear reactor. The skill set for the rest of the system downstream of the reactor is not new.

The existing infrastructure - mooring specialists, heavy-lift cranes, classification societies and dry tow transporters - will support an fSMR construction industry. From being a world leader in offshore rigs, Singapore has what it takes to be a world leader in building fSMRs. However, its yards need a strategic partner that can deliver the SMR, with a good brand like France's Areva. A matchmaker is needed to bring the two parties together. The Economic Development Board can fulfil that role.

Can an fSMR be defended against terrorism? Sure.

The sea surrounding Singapore is among the safest in the world due to the high level of vigilance and port protocol. shakehead.gif puke.gif doh.gif Nevertheless, a concrete floating barrier/breakwater of 200m in diameter should be built around the fSMR.

The mooring system for the barrier would be designed to allow the barrier to move a couple of metres. The compression of the fenders, the motion of the barrier and the friction of the water will absorb the kinetic energy of the impact when any collision occurs.

Radar, underwater ultrasonic, weapon-bearing drones and high- voltage fencing would provide additional surveillance and protection.

Can the fSMR's off-peak output be used? Of course.

I have encouraged the national water agency PUB to consider the use of floating, steel-framed reservoirs with fabric linings.

A desalination plant with a floating reservoir can be located close to an fSMR to tap energy during the night off-peak hours. This would smooth the load and optimise efficiency. The reservoir may be used to grow vegetables or rear fish.

Has it been done before? Yes. Since the first nuclear submarine USS Nautilus in 1954, many naval and icebreaking ships are nuclear-powered.

Shipyards in Russia and China are, or will be, increasingly used to build floating nuclear plants.

In the United States, even though wind, tidal current, solar and shale gas are abundant, fSMR interest is emerging. Professors at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and University of Wisconsin have gone public with plans to design fSMRs, inspired by advances in offshore rig-building technology.

While the capital cost of an fSMR is high, the levelised cost is not prohibitive. This is a measure of the cost of producing renewable energy over its expected lifetime energy output. This unit cost is derived by dividing the lifecycle cost, including land, capital expenditure, construction, fuel, operation and maintenance on a present-value basis by all the energy produced over the life of the plant.

In Singapore, due to the very high cost of land, the difference between the levelised costs of an fSMR and a conventional gas-fired plant would be attractive.

To be sure, the notion of a floating nuclear plant in Singapore may seem startling to some. But my point is that this is a sensible solution that builds on Singapore's expertise in offshore rig building, and which can be cost-effective. It is no sci-fi solution, but a distinct possibility.

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because not all arrived from the 2nd insurgency war
some of the nuris even delivered in the late 80s

if you want to talk relic the Hercules are even older but no one bats an eye about it
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i wonder if we can use parts from that/any crash helicopters as spares. I mean in terms of industrial/technical. are we allowed to do that?
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i wonder if we can use parts from that/any crash helicopters as spares. I mean in terms of industrial/technical. are we allowed to do that?
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so maybe can still use the avionics, gps, other cockpit stuff
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waiting for combat proven, or US no layan? brows.gif

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IINM need to send for recond, ALL parts of a military aircraft involved in a crash must be inspected and recond

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because not all arrived from the 2nd insurgency war
some of the nuris even delivered in the late 80s

if you want to talk relic the Hercules are even older but no one bats an eye about it
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probably cause our Hercules dont fall out of the sky as often tongue.gif
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fancy infographic. My friend operates SPYDER smile.gif

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unlike many countries singkieland is a little red dot, any hit will have probability of casualty.. with the batam scare, i think the defense will be strengthen again... uav now another headache

haih.. tada long range defense

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The U.S. Army's Chevy Colorado ZH2 Looks Ready For World War IV

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We knew Chevrolet was turning the Colorado pickup truck into some kind of military test bed, but I was not expecting the thing to look straight out of Call of Duty: Infinite Warfare. Forget a Raptor rival, GM has gone totally Hollywood and I kind of love it.

Let’s get this out of the way first– the Colorado ZH2 is technically “real” (though these media shots look a lot like illustrations) but you will not be running in fear while these things roam the streets any time soon.

Don’t let it be your excuse for enlisting either: I wouldn’t count on satellite radio or Recaro seats making it onto the battlefield.

The ZH2 was born out of the U.S. Army’s desire to test the viability of hydrogen as a fuel for ground vehicles. But I can assure you it only got that Hollywood body kit out of Chevrolet’s desire to have some cool pictures for a press release.

Not that I’m complaining, I’ll never knock an opportunity for a car designer to get let off the leash a little.

But at least it sounds like the ZH2 will get a little further off the car show carpet than the last ZR2 concept did; the Army actually is taking this thing out to their enormous sand boxes to see how hydrogen holds up in the kinds of hell that soldiers call their office over the next year.


GM reports that they worked directly with the U.S. Army Tank Automotive Research, Development and Engineering Center to take the Colorado ZH2 “from contract to concept in less than a year.”

You probably recognize the crew cab from the civilian Colorado as introduced in 2015, but the chassis has been stretched and body ended up at over 6.5 feet tall and 7 feet wide.

Oh, and don’t worry, it has red tow hooks. Did I mention the red tow hooks? You’re not a real off-roader with that shit, hoss.


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4 October 2016

• Acquisition is Phase III of fleet strengthening programme initiated in 2012.

• The two new helicopters will join its existing operating fleet of four EC725s (Phase I) for similar military missions, with two more (Phase II) to be delivered this year.

• Delivery is expected in 2019.

Marignane – The Royal Thai Air Force (RTAF) has ordered two additional mission-ready twin-engine EC725 (now marketed as the H225M Caracal) multirole utility helicopters as part of the continuation of its fleet strengthening programme agreement launched in 2012. Delivery of the two additional EC725s is scheduled for 2019.

The RTAF’s EC725s are specially equipped with fast roping, cargo sling, search light and electro-optical systems (EOS) to perform combat search and rescue (CSAR) missions, search and rescue (SAR) flights, troop transport operations and other tasks. These additional helicopters will join an existing fleet of four EC725s to perform similar missions. Two EC725s that were booked in 2014 will also be delivered by the end of this year. Upon signing this latest contract, the RTAF may also consider to further expand its fleet of EC725s.

“This latest contract marks the great confidence the RTAF has placed in the EC725 and its proven capabilities to fulfil its most challenging missions,” said Philippe Monteux, Head of Southeast Asia and Pacific region. “We are honoured to be a partner of the RTAF’s fleet modernisation and strengthening efforts and we remain committed to ensure full support and comprehensive services to the RTAF.”

Airbus Helicopters’ EC725 is an 11-ton twin-engine multirole utility helicopter featuring high-performance navigation and mission systems – including a unique digital four-axis autopilot to deliver excellent flight autonomy. It is a member of the successful Super Puma / Cougar family of military helicopters, with more than 500 units delivered worldwide. It is currently operated by the armed forces of France, Brazil, Mexico, Malaysia, Thailand, Indonesia and was selected last month by the State of Kuwait, with an order placed for 30 helicopters.
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EXCLUSIVE: Russia has deployed an advanced anti-missile system to Syria for the first time, three US officials tell Fox News, the latest indication that Moscow continues to ramp up its military operations in Syria in support of President Bashar al-Assad.

It comes after Russia's actions led to the collapse of a cease-fire and the cut-off of direct talks with the U.S. 

While Moscow’s motives are not certain, officials say the new weapon system could potentially counter any American cruise missile attack in Syria.

Components of the SA-23 Gladiator anti-missile and anti-aircraft system, which has a range of roughly 150 miles, arrived over the weekend “on the docks” of a Russian naval base along Syria’s Mediterranean coastal city of Tartus, two US officials said.

It is the first time Russia has deployed the SA-23 system outside its borders, according to one Western official citing a recent intelligence assessment. The missiles and associated components are still in their crates and are not yet operational, according to the officials.

The U.S. intelligence community has been observing the shipment of the SA-23 inside Russia in recent weeks, according to one official.

While the purpose is not clear, one US official asked sarcastically, “Nusra doesn’t have an air force do they?” speaking about the Al Qaeda-linked group in Syria.  The Islamic State also does not fly any manned aircraft or possess cruise missiles, in a sign that Russia is directing its actions to protect itself against any potential attack from the United States or its allies.

The SA-23 can fire two different types of missiles. A smaller missile is used against aircraft and cruise missiles and is known by NATO as Gladiator. The larger missile is used against intermediate-range ballistic missiles and jamming aircraft and is known as Giant. Both missiles use the same type of warhead containing over 300 pounds of explosives, according to military-today.com.


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Our rmaf dem good. Sikit sikit, crash. Training, events, crash. Imagine if a real war happens. D enemy will laugh till die?! Sigh, I pity our servicemen. This gomen will kill them first before d enemy does.
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bro.......Nuris are old.......and compared to USAF, RMAF aircraft rarely crash.
You're like typical Malaysian.....MAS' last major accident before MH370 was during the 1970s, but even though MH17 and MH370 had nothing to do with MAS maintenance or aircraft quality, all hop onboard the bash MAS bandwagon doh.gif
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bro.......Nuris are old.......and compared to USAF, RMAF aircraft rarely crash.
You're like typical Malaysian.....MAS' last major accident before MH370 was during the 1970s, but even though MH17 and MH370 had nothing to do with MAS maintenance or aircraft quality, all hop onboard the bash MAS bandwagon  doh.gif
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A Nuri helicopter owned by the Royal Malaysian Air Force which was carrying 14 personnel landed on the roof of a Living Skills centre during an emergency landing at Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan Balung, today.

No fatalities have been reported and the 14 injured personnel are being treated at Tawau Hospital.

Tawau Fire and Rescue senior assistant superintendent Sahidi Mahali said five students were also injured in the 9.45am incident.

He said the department was gathering further information on the case.

Bernama learnt that the helicopter had earlier tried to land on the field of the school.

One of the helicopter's rotor blades was flung about 200 metres away from the scene.

Meanwhile, the RMAF in a statement said the helicopter which was carrying 14 personnel left its base here at 7.35am for routine flight training.

"The crew and passengers are all safe," it said.

According to the statement, RMAF has sent a rescue team to the location and cordoned off the area before taking steps to bring out the helicopter.

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An Indian Air Force Jaguar aircraft crashed in Pokhran area of Rajasthan on Monday after both the pilots had ejected safely.

On a routine training sortie, the jet took off from Jaisalmer and crashed in the area near the India-Pakistan border at around 1.45 pm.

According to IAF sources, the trainer aircraft crashed following a technical snag.

A court of inquiry (CoI) has been ordered, defence spokesperson Lt Col Manish Ojha said.

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Just because China’s “carrier-killer” missile has a greater range than the planes aboard a US aircraft carrier doesn’t mean the US would shy away from deploying a carrier within that range, Richardson has stated on different occasions.

Again, Richardson challenged the notion that a so-called A2/AD zone was “an impenetrable keep out zone that forces can only enter at extreme peril to their existence, let alone their mission.”

Richardson took particular issue with the “denial” aspect of A2/AD, repeating his assertion that this denial is an “aspiration” not a “fait accompli.” The maps so common in representing these threats often mark off the limits of different system’s ranges with “red arcs that extend off coastlines,” with the implication that military forces crossing these lines face “certain destruction.”

But this is all speculation according to Richardson: “The reality is far more complex, it’s actually really hard to achieve a hit. It requires the completion of a really complex chain of events…. these arcs represent danger for sure… but the threats they are based on are not insurmountable, and can be managed, will be managed.”


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Now the most powerful and advanced frigate in the fleet, HMS Westminster is due to be handed back to the Royal Navy next spring.

The Type 23 Frigate the first ship to receive the Sea Ceptor missile system, which is also being installed on sister ships Argyll and Montrose during their refits in Devonport.

In addition the Artisan radar, which is rapidly becoming prevalent on the Type 23s, can track more than 800 objects simultaneously as close as 200 metres and as far away as 200,000m.

The Type 23 frigates form the core of the Royal Navy’s fleet and serve alongside the Type 45 destroyers. Originally designed for anti-submarine warfare in the North Atlantic, the Royal Navy’s Type 23 frigates have proven their versatility in warfighting, peace-keeping and maritime security operations around the globe.

Thirteen Type 23 frigates remain in service with the Royal Navy, with three vessels having been sold to Chile and handed over to the Chilean Navy.

Commanding Officer Cdr Simon Kelly said:

“HMS Westminster is emerging from an extended refit period as one of the most capable surface ships in the Royal Navy.

She has benefited from a number of significant upgrades many of which the Royal Navy will invest in the future Type 26 Frigate. The partnership with BAE Systems throughout this period has been excellent, for which I thank all of the team.”


Sea Ceptor is the Royal Navy's new Seawolf point defence missile replacement, and is based on the (edit: ASRAAM missile).

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Oct 4 2016, 05:17 PM)
Our rmaf dem good. Sikit sikit, crash. Training, events, crash. Imagine if a real war happens. D enemy will laugh till die?! Sigh, I pity our servicemen. This gomen will kill them first before d enemy does.
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Shit happened no matter how much you are prepared or not
Maintenance and training are done according to schedule

There are many factors that can contribute to crash.
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most detailed full pic of the damage to the airframe
nothing short of miracle all of them walked away with minor injuries

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 5 2016, 06:51 PM)
most detailed full pic of the damage to the airframe
nothing short of miracle all of them walked away with minor injuries

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alhamdullilah no students injured
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alhamdullilah no students injured
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got 5 student & 1 cleaner minor injured ..... mainly in head

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HMS Westminster completes refit armed with new missiles
https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/hms-westmin...campaign=social

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Sea Ceptor is the Royal Navy's new Seawolf point defence missile replacement, and is based on the Starstreak missile system.
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our LCS should use Sea Captor too compare to expensive mica & short range.
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Shit happened no matter how much you are prepared or not
Maintenance and training are done according to schedule

There are many factors that can contribute to crash.
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Indonesian Air Force Angkasa Yudha Exercise 2016 - Natuna.

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probably cause our Hercules dont fall out of the sky as often tongue.gif
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our LCS should use Sea Captor too compare to expensive mica & short range.
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Sea Ceptor aka MBDA CAMM is probably more expensive - brand new, 5km further range, almost twice bigger warhead. Also UK-made rather than French-made, and we all know Marehsia and France got special defence relationship whistling.gif

The Singkies' Aster 15 is better than both CAMM and MICA by the way brows.gif
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Sea Ceptor is the Royal Navy's new Seawolf point defence missile replacement, and is based on the Starstreak missile system.
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how is it related to the starstreak missile? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(empatTan @ Oct 4 2016, 05:17 PM)
Our rmaf dem good. Sikit sikit, crash. Training, events, crash. Imagine if a real war happens. D enemy will laugh till die?! Sigh, I pity our servicemen. This gomen will kill them first before d enemy does.
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If war happens, we got you to kutuk kutuk the enemy, no need atm to do anything what!

Why worry😒😒
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Ah, damn, its actually based on ASRAAM. Same rocket, warhead and fuse.

Martlet, below, is the one based on Starstreak missile - a Sea Skua replacement.

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 5 2016, 06:19 PM)
Ah, damn, its actually based on ASRAAM. Same rocket, warhead and fuse.

Martlet, below, is the one based on Starstreak missile - a Sea Skua replacement.

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actually sea venom is for sea skua replacement
martlet is more of a multirole light missile
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actually sea venom is for sea skua replacement
martlet is more of a multirole light missile
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Oh I see. Didn't know about Sea Venom. That makes Martlet sort of in-between I guess.
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camm or sea ceptor not base on vl mica meh?
camm will replace sea wolf rite?
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although developed by same company the camm is for british platform and mica is for french platform
yup camm will replace seawolf
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camm or sea ceptor not base on vl mica meh?

camm will replace sea wolf rite?
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MICA is also 20 years old whereas CAMM is new

Yes, and British Army's Rapier too aka Jernas
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Interesting though, investigation not over and yet u are able to tell us that everything is in order  hmm.gif
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If heli are not fit to fly, they wont fly as easy as that. TUDM have a dedicated team that can halt the heli from flying if it is not fit to fly.

the investigation board will investigate the caused of the crash and we wait for that

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Ukraine successfully tests Sarmat anti-tank missile



KIEV, Ukraine, Oct. 4 (UPI) -- Ukraine has successfully test-fired its Sarmat anti-tank guided missile, officials announced this week.

President Petro Poroshenko congratulated the state-owned Kiev Design Bureau for the milestone Sunday on his Facebook page.

The company posted a video of the firing to its YouTube page on Sept. 30.

The Sarmat missile is part of a module mounted on jeeps and can engage tanks, motionless helicopters, sea vessels and ground forces, the Ukrainian news agency Zik reported.

Its smaller version has a maximum range of about 8,200 feet, and the larger variant has a range of about 16,400 feet.

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With that in mind, NO investigation is needed

CASE CLOSED
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Hek eleh mcm celaka je perangai kalah budak2. Hahaha
Macam ni bang.
What if the cause of crash is bird strike?
Or an engine flame out, pilot error, fuel contamination.
Until the caused is determined, boi enquiries is a must
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Australian submarine program in danger of running aground

KAORI TAKAHASHI, Nikkei staff writer

SYDNEY -- Australia's next-generation submarines development project faces an uncertain future after a substantial information leak from a contractor overseas and strikes by government employees at home.

The Australian government last Friday announced it had selected major U.S. defense contractor Lockheed Martin for the task of integrating combat systems in the planned new submarines. With a systems integrator finally in place, the vessels' development can finally get underway. It is "an important step in the development of Australia's regionally superior future submarines," Defense Minister Marise Payne said on Friday.

But the announcement also highlighted delays that took place during negotiations, as the selection came a whole five months after Canberra had chosen French shipbuilder DCNS for their design.

The delay appears to be the result of major security concerns arising from an information leak at DCNS, who won the bid over Japan's Mitsubishi Heavy Industries and Kawasaki Heavy Industries, and leading German defense contractor ThyssenKrupp Marine Systems.

A local news report revealed the leak of classified data related to Scorpene class submarines DCNS designed for the Indian navy, including stealth features and underwater performance capabilities.

The Australian defense ministry subsequently asked the company to improve information security.

A source said the time taken to strike a deal was the result of having to take extra security measures after scandal.

"The Americans were reluctant to work with Germans or French in the first place," the source said, adding that the leak made them even more unwilling to accept the deal, and that led to a drawn-out process of creating an information security system that met the U.S. company's standards.

Meanwhile, in late September, work related to the safety and design of the submarines stalled as about 40 naval engineers, architects and technicians at the defense ministry staged a week-long strike "against the degradation of technical capacity in the Defence Department," according to the Professionals Australia union. The strike also targeted a "future frigate program, the offshore patrol boat program and the replacement of a vital naval refueling vessel."

The members warn that budget and payroll cuts may bring an end to the submarine program due to a skills shortage, and called on the government to improve working conditions.


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got 5 student & 1 cleaner minor injured ..... mainly in head
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Sea Ceptor aka MBDA CAMM is probably more expensive - brand new, 5km further range, almost twice bigger warhead. Also UK-made rather than French-made, and we all know Marehsia and France got special defence relationship whistling.gif
The Singkies' Aster 15 is better than both CAMM and MICA by the way brows.gif
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the CAMM is design to replace Aster 15 too, most advantage is CAMM can quadpack missile to 1 vls hole and flexibility fly。 so can 4x your missile quantity. that bring new level of capability.
and aim for low cost. everyone know MICA missile is little bit expensive, but it have own cheaper VLS packages in, so much cheaper in this way, if use Sylver and MK41 than cost will be very high.
many old generation SAM missile like ESSM & Aster use "parabola" fly style is outdated. and lack of advantage against those close sea flight aircraft and ASM missile

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Oct 5 2016, 06:41 PM)
although developed by same company the camm is for british platform and mica is for french platform
yup camm will replace seawolf
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World only have US/France/China/Russia system VLS for now, UK system almost VLS almost retired.
UK Navy basically use France sysystem like Type 45, Type 26 will use American VLS system.
our RMN Gowind although is France made by use American standard system like radar, Missile. that why our LCS can select ESSM too but we din't get it.
CAMM support both American system and France system VLS.
MICA is support American system.

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Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA)

"The Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) is as relevant (today) as it was 45 years ago. It was a complex security scenario back then, and it's a complex security scenario today. Working together is still very important."
Australia’s Chief Defence Force (CDF) Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin said this at a joint doorstop interview today, together with Singapore’s CDF Lieutenant-General (LG) Perry Lim; New Zealand’s CDF, LG Timothy Keating; the United Kingdom’s Vice Chief of the Defence Staff, General Sir Gordon Messenger, and Malaysia’s Joint Force Commander, LG Dato’ Fadzil Bin Mokhtar.

They are in Singapore for the 17th FPDA Defence Chiefs’ Conference (FDCC), chaired by LG Lim. Held from 4 to 6 Oct, the FDCC, which is hosted alternately by Malaysia and Singapore, is the highest military professional forum of the FPDA and serves as an important platform for dialogue and exchange of views among the defence chiefs. This year also marks 45 years of the FPDA.

LG Lim expressed his appreciation towards his Australian, New Zealand and UK counterparts for their commitment towards the FPDA and its exercises. He was very happy that they "continue to show very strong commitment to this arrangement" and noted that this would be the same case going forward.

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From left: ACM Binskin, LG Dato, LG Lim, LG Keating and GEN Messenger reaffirm their commitment to the FPDA.

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Defence chiefs from Australia, Malaysia, New Zealand, and the UK gathered together for the 17th FDCC, chaired by LG Lim, to discuss the regional situation and ways to enhance interoperability among the armed forces of member countries.

"I’ve had a fantastic relationship (with my Singaporean counterparts) from a junior pilot all the way to my current position. The relationship has never been stronger," said Chief of Defence Force (CDF) of the Australian Defence Force (ADF) Air Chief Marshal Mark Binskin.
ACM Binskin said this while reaffirming the close and long-standing relationship between Singapore and Australia. He called on Singapore’s CDF Lieutenant-General (LG) Perry Lim at the Ministry of Defence today, and is here for the 17th Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) Defence Chiefs’ Conference and the FPDA’s 45th anniversary celebrations from 4 to 6 Oct.

Apart from discussing regional security issues and what more could be done to combat terrorism, both defence chiefs welcomed the elevation of defence ties and closer military-to-military cooperation under the Singapore-Australia Comprehensive Strategic Partnership, which was signed in June 2015.

LG Lim and ACM Binskin looked forward to the Memorandum of Understanding (MOU) on Military Training and Training Area Development that will be signed by Minister for Defence Dr Ng Eng Hen and Australian Minister for Defence Marise Payne during Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong’s visit to Australia for the inaugural Leaders’ Summit later this month.

ACM Binskin said the joint development of training areas and facilities would enable both armed forces to operate better in the future. LG Lim expressed appreciation for the strong support of the Australian government and ADF for the SAF’s training in Australia, saying: "This has allowed the SAF to maintain our operational readiness and conduct training that we cannot do in Singapore. The training opportunities and the support for our presence in Australia have been excellent."

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the CAMM is design to replace Aster 15 too, most advantage is CAMM can quadpack missile to 1 vls hole and flexibility fly。  so can 4x your missile quantity. that bring new level of capability.
and aim for low cost. everyone know MICA missile is little bit expensive, but it have own cheaper VLS packages in, so much cheaper in this way, if use Sylver and MK41 than cost will be very high.
many old generation SAM missile like ESSM & Aster use "parabola" fly style is outdated. and lack of advantage against those close sea flight aircraft and ASM missile   
World only have US/France/China/Russia system VLS for now, UK system almost VLS almost retired.
UK Navy basically use France sysystem like Type 45, Type 26 will use American VLS system. 
our RMN Gowind although is France made by use American standard system like radar, Missile. that why our LCS can select ESSM too  but we din't get it.
CAMM support both American system and France system VLS.
MICA is support American system.
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The issue of launchers and missiles is quite confusing laugh.gif The US's Mk 41 can mount practically any/everything. The UK doesn't have a "multipurpose" launcher of its own like France's Sylver, just custom CAMM or Sea Wolf VLS.

For their Type 45 destroyers and Type 23 frigates, UK chose Sylver and custom CAMM launchers over the older, larger, heavier (and IINM more expensive) American Mk 141, but the downside is inability to fit Harpoon in their VLS which have to use the old box launchers. The Type 26 is currently expected to mount both Mk 41 and CAMM VLS, maybe they will fit a mix of Harpoon, Aster 30 and CAMM. Type 45 also apparently has an empty space to put additional 12 Mk 41 VLS or Sylver tubes - hard to tell which.

I'm not sure if Aster's flight profile is really that bad. After all Aster did prove it can intercept a supersonic sea-skimming missile in exercise.

Our SGPVs carry Sylver launchers for launching MICA, probably the smallest size so no possibility of carrying other kinds of missiles. I don't think Mk 41 VLS would fit on our ships. Singapore also went with MICA for their LMVs, so I dunno.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 6 2016, 01:13 AM)
I'm not sure if Aster's flight profile is really that bad. After all Aster did prove it can intercept a supersonic sea-skimming missile in exercise.
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its not that its bad or whatever just that the dual-stage design of aster missile extends its minimum engagement range by a bit
camm, mica, seawolf all got minimum about 1km engagement range where the aster 15 got 1.7km & aster 30 got 3km minimum
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most detailed full pic of the damage to the airframe
nothing short of miracle all of them walked away with minor injuries

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after the last major Nuri's accident (i think la) back in 2007 where a nuri was crash and killed 6 peronnel on board when it was on the way to kuantan... ppl already indirectly called it "the flying coffin"... it took SAR team days to locate the wreckage and with help from a US Navy's Sea Hawk Helicopter...

30 delivered since 1969 to rmaf. 18 had crashed since then until 2007... i think we had few crashes after 2007 till now..

Chronology of Nuri crashes and near misses since 1969.

April 25, 1969 - First Nuri crash when four RMAF men were killed in Kuching, Sarawak.

March 11, 1972 - Another four men were killed in a crash in Gambang, Pahang.

April 26, 1976 - 11 crew and passengers were killed when a Nuri was brought down by communist fire in Gubir, Kedah.

July 19, 1980 - A Nuri crashed near Ipoh, Perak but 18 people survived.

April 25, 1981 - Two RMAF men were killed and 13 others escaped with injuries when a Nuri crashed near the Kuching Airport in Sarawak.

July 11, 1981 - A Nuri crashed near Batu Melintang, Perak. 11 people survived.

Nov 14, 1989 - 21 people perished in a crash between Gunung Gerah and Gunung Bilah on the Kelantan- Perak border.

Dec 18, 1989 - 16 men were killed in a crash near Sungai Lundu, Sarawak.

Aug 28, 1990 - 9 men training for Merdeka celebration survived an emergency landing near Rawang, Selangor.

Jan 16, 1991 - A Nuri from Sungai Besi to Kluang made an emergency landing in Kampung Parit Zin, Muar, Johor. 12 men cheated death.

June 10, 1991 - 6 men were killed when a Nuri crashed and exploded in Banding, Perak.

July 11, 1991 - 7 men were killed when a Nuri crashed during landing also in Banding, Perak.

Oct 16, 1996 - 2 men were killed when a Nuri crashed in Muka Head, Penang.

March 19, 1997 - 11 RMAF men were killed when two Nuris crashed near Gunung Lumaku, Sipitang in Sabah.

March 5, 2004 - 2 men were killed in a crash in Taman Udara, Butterworth.

March 30, 2004 - 3 pilots survived an emergency landing in Bukit Kalam near Labuan, Sabah.

Aug 15, 2004 - 3 men were killed in a crash at Long Seridan, Sarawak.

July 13, 2007 - 6 RMAF personnel perished when a Nuri crashed at Genting Sempah, Pahang. Their bodies were recovered four days later.

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Oct 6 2016, 11:23 AM)
after the last major Nuri's accident (i think la) back in 2007 where a nuri was crash and killed 6 peronnel on board when it was on the way to kuantan... ppl already indirectly called it "the flying coffin"... it took SAR team days to locate the wreckage and with help from a US Navy's Sea Hawk Helicopter...

30 delivered since 1969 to rmaf. 18 had crashed since then until 2007... i think we had few crashes after 2007 till now..

Chronology of Nuri crashes and near misses since 1969.

April 25, 1969 - First Nuri crash when four RMAF men were killed in Kuching, Sarawak.

March 11, 1972 - Another four men were killed in a crash in Gambang, Pahang.

April 26, 1976 - 11 crew and passengers were killed when a Nuri was brought down by communist fire in Gubir, Kedah.

July 19, 1980 - A Nuri crashed near Ipoh, Perak but 18 people survived.

April 25, 1981 - Two RMAF men were killed and 13 others escaped with injuries when a Nuri crashed near the Kuching Airport in Sarawak.

July 11, 1981 - A Nuri crashed near Batu Melintang, Perak. 11 people survived.

Nov 14, 1989 - 21 people perished in a crash between Gunung Gerah and Gunung Bilah on the Kelantan- Perak border.

Dec 18, 1989 - 16 men were killed in a crash near Sungai Lundu, Sarawak.

Aug 28, 1990 - 9 men training for Merdeka celebration survived an emergency landing near Rawang, Selangor.

Jan 16, 1991 - A Nuri from Sungai Besi to Kluang made an emergency landing in Kampung Parit Zin, Muar, Johor. 12 men cheated death.

June 10, 1991 - 6 men were killed when a Nuri crashed and exploded in Banding, Perak.

July 11, 1991 - 7 men were killed when a Nuri crashed during landing also in Banding, Perak.

Oct 16, 1996 - 2 men were killed when a Nuri crashed in Muka Head, Penang.

March 19, 1997 - 11 RMAF men were killed when two Nuris crashed near Gunung Lumaku, Sipitang in Sabah.

March 5, 2004 - 2 men were killed in a crash in Taman Udara, Butterworth.

March 30, 2004 - 3 pilots survived an emergency landing in Bukit Kalam near Labuan, Sabah.

Aug 15, 2004 - 3 men were killed in a crash at Long Seridan, Sarawak.

July 13, 2007 - 6 RMAF personnel perished when a Nuri crashed at Genting Sempah, Pahang. Their bodies were recovered four days later.
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based on this, the last crash was 2007? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Oct 6 2016, 09:58 AM)
based on this, the last crash was 2007?  hmm.gif
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i say that's the chronology of 18 crashes from 1969 until 2007 and i did mention " i think we had few crashes after 2007 till now.." maybe not major or emergency landing, etc
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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Oct 6 2016, 12:07 PM)
i say that's the chronology of 18 crashes from 1969 until 2007 and i did mention " i think we had few crashes after 2007 till now.." maybe not major or emergency landing, etc
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i see.. haih... this is bad
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how about our EC725 heli? still not fit to fly after recent crash in Norway?

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Funnily, now the whole world knows the Buk missile as 'Buk', its proper Russian name.

Usually in english-speaking world, Russian-made weapons are only known by their NATO designations. Buk, for example, is the SA-11 Gadfly.
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Dua tentera hilang jatuh laut di Pulau Perak

ALOR SETAR: Dua anggota tentera hilang sejak petang semalam selepas terjatuh ke laut ketika menjalankan operasi
di Pulau Perak yang terletak kira-kira 122.3 kilometer (km) atau 66 batu nautika dari barat daya Langkawi.

Dua anggota ialah Koperal Johbartlee Kanil, 32, dari Kota Marudu di Sabah dan Koperal Mohd Faizol Rosli, 29, dari Kampung Sungai Limau di Pulai, Baling, dekat sini.

Markas Tentera Darat dalam kenyataannya hari ini, mengesahkan menerima laporan mengenai kejadian kira-kira jam 4.40 petang itu dan operasi kini digerakkan Markas Armada Tentera Laut Diraja Malaysia (TLDM).

"Ketika kejadian kedua-dua anggota dari Batalion ke-4 Rejimen Renjer Diraja (RRD) berpangkalan di Oran, Perlis itu terjatuh ke laut semasa menjalankan tugas di pulau terbabit.

"Pihak TLDM yang menerajui operasi ini sudah melancarkan operasi mencari dan menyelamat menggunakan tiga kapal iaitu KD Laksamana Tun Abdul Hamid, KD Ledang, Kd Selangor dan Pesawat Super Lynx.

"Operasi turut dibantu sebuah pesawat Nuri Tentera Udara Diraja Malaysia (TUDM) dari 3 Skuadron di Butterworth, Pulau Pinang," katanya yang mengesahkan makluman kejadian kepada keluarga mangsa juga sudah dibuat.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Oct 5 2016, 10:05 PM)
the CAMM is design to replace Aster 15 too, most advantage is CAMM can quadpack missile to 1 vls hole and flexibility fly。  so can 4x your missile quantity. that bring new level of capability.
and aim for low cost. everyone know MICA missile is little bit expensive, but it have own cheaper VLS packages in, so much cheaper in this way, if use Sylver and MK41 than cost will be very high.
many old generation SAM missile like ESSM & Aster use "parabola" fly style is outdated. and lack of advantage against those close sea flight aircraft and ASM missile   
World only have US/France/China/Russia system VLS for now, UK system almost VLS almost retired.
UK Navy basically use France sysystem like Type 45, Type 26 will use American VLS system. 
our RMN Gowind although is France made by use American standard system like radar, Missile. that why our LCS can select ESSM too  but we din't get it.
CAMM support both American system and France system VLS.
MICA is support American system.
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another option is Umkhonto. better range, but lost to mica in indonesia.
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General Dynamics Unveils New U.S. Army Tank Prototype



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Defense contractor General Dynamics has unveiled a new armored vehicle designed to fulfill a U.S. Army requirement for a new light tank. The Griffin Technology Demonstrator is designed to be a lightweight, fast-moving vehicle with a powerful gun that's made to support light infantry troops on the battlefield.

Several months ago, the Army told its tops defense contractors it was interested in a new vehicle it was calling the Mobile Protected Firepower. It seems the Army is worried that in a future war, its "light fighters" could be temporarily cut off from air and naval support and wants to make it easier for them to survive on their own. The MPF would give a boost to firepower-strapped light infantry divisions, especially against enemy fortifications and lighter armored vehicles such as the Russia's new Kurganets infantry fighting vehicle and China's new light tank.

The Griffin is a 28-ton concept vehicle that combines the hull of the British Army's new Ajax scout vehicle (seen above), also built by General Dynamics, with the firepower of the M1 Abrams. Griffin uses a new turret incorporating the XM360 tank gun designed for the Army's Future Combat Systems, which was an early 2000s effort to field lighter, more rapidly deployable replacements for the Army's M1 Abrams tank, M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicle, and M109 self-propelled howitzer. FCS ultimately failed, but the gun designed for the Abrams' replacement lives on.

The Griffin uses a new gun of the same 120-millimeter caliber that weighs 2,000 pounds less.

According to a video interview with a General Dynamics representative, the turret is "just like an Abrams", with the touch and feel that a tanker would be instantly familiar with. That kind of familiarity will help with training, allowing trained operators to transition to the smaller vehicle faster.


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BAE Systems begins production of new thermal sights

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ARLINGTON, Va., Oct. 5 (UPI) -- BAE Systems is to begin production of new thermal weapon sights for the U.S. Army under a $13.5 million order.

Under the low-rate initial production award, 100 systems will be made for individual soldier weapons.

The new production is part of a five-year contract for the Army's Enhanced Night Vision Goggle III and Family of Weapon Sight-Individual program.

"These advanced weapon sights will allow soldiers to conduct surveillance and acquire targets in any light or weather conditions, increasing mission safety and effectiveness," said Marc Casseres, director of Imaging and Aiming Solutions at BAE Systems. "This production order means that soldiers are one step closer to receiving this mission-critical technology for use in-theater."

The new thermal sights feature 12-micron technology, which makes the sights smaller and lighter than earlier thermal sights. It also provides superior image quality.

The clip-on, uncooled infrared thermal weapon sight allows soldiers to clearly view targets at more than 1,000 yards away. It can be mounted on a variety of weapons, including the M4 carbine, M16A4, the M249 Squad Automatic Weapon, M136 AT4 rifle, or M141 Bunker Defeat.

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Locked and Loaded: Russia Develops Unique Reloading Vehicle for MSTA Howitzers

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Currently known under the technical name Izdelie 2-F66-1, the vehicle was developed by the Burevestnik Central R&D Institute. It is based on the KamAZ-6560 eight-wheel chassis.
The new vehicle is equipped with a special manipulator which enables instant resupplying of an SPG without involvement of its crew.

"As for now, the vehicle has undergone government tests. Deliveries to the armed forces will begin next year," a Burevestnik representative told the Russian newspaper Izvestia.

The newest vehicle will be delivered along with MSTA-SV self-propelled howitzers, which were contracted by the Defense Ministry in September.

On the outside, the new reloading vehicle looks like an ordinary truck with a container mounted in the cargo box. Inside the box, there is a revolver-type reloading system which contains 92 artillery shells. Controlled by the operator, the system rotates and delivers a projectile to a special manipulator resembling a human’s arm. The manipulator grabs the projectile and puts it in the loading mechanism of an SPG.

Until now, having run out of ammo, SPG units had to leave artillery positions for a safe place where they could replenish ammo. Traditional reloading is time-consuming because it is done manually by the crew. The new reloading vehicle will accelerate the procedure several-fold. If previously reloading usually took up to several hours, the 2F66-1 can reload 50 shells in just several minutes.

Its capabilities will increase the firing rate of artillery units by 2-3 times and seriously reduce the reloading time," a Defense Ministry source told Izvestia.

Currently, analogues of the 2F66-1 are used with the newest Swedish howitzer Archer. It is based on the Volvo A30D chassis and can carry over 40 shells. Analogous reloading vehicles are also in service with the French military, working with the Caesar self-propelled gun.


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HSV-2 Swift recovery images show extent of damage to #UAE operated vessel from claimed #Yemen #Houthi attack

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Britain's new £31billion Trident submarines will be built with steel coming from FRANCE

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Hulls of the new £31billion Trident submarines will be built with steel provided by a FRENCH firm.

BAe Systems, building the subs in Barrow-in-Furness, Cumbria, opted for a French supplier after signing a contract with the UK government.

The deal, which The Mirror reports will be worth tens of millions, came after a plan between two British firms to make a joint bid for the work flopped.

The Defence Secretary announced work on the new nuclear deterrent will begin today as the first pictures of £31billion Trident submarines were unveiled.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Oct 6 2016, 01:13 AM)
The issue of launchers and missiles is quite confusing laugh.gif The US's Mk 41 can mount practically any/everything. The UK doesn't have a "multipurpose" launcher of its own like France's Sylver, just custom CAMM or Sea Wolf VLS.

For their Type 45 destroyers and Type 23 frigates, UK chose Sylver and custom CAMM launchers over the older, larger, heavier (and IINM more expensive) American Mk 141, but the downside is inability to fit Harpoon in their VLS which have to use the old box launchers. The Type 26 is currently expected to mount both Mk 41 and CAMM VLS, maybe they will fit a mix of Harpoon, Aster 30 and CAMM. Type 45 also apparently has an empty space to put additional 12 Mk 41 VLS or Sylver tubes - hard to tell which.

I'm not sure if Aster's flight profile is really that bad. After all Aster did prove it can intercept a supersonic sea-skimming missile in exercise.

Our SGPVs carry Sylver launchers for launching MICA, probably the smallest size so no possibility of carrying other kinds of missiles. I don't think Mk 41 VLS would fit on our ships. Singapore also went with MICA for their LMVs, so I dunno.
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Aster not really bad actually is quite good SAM, just CAMM much more suitable to new generation requirement. specially can Quadpack and they there flexibility suitetable facing new generation thread. even CAMM-ER will replace ESSM for most navy. just like new replace old one.
CAMM to design support US and France system VLS.

Type 45 radar and system not support MK41 VLS.
well Aster only can fit in Sylver VLS, it not support at US MK41.
As i said, Mica support France (thales) made Radar, Thales have 2 series radar which support France Sylver missile or Mk41 US standard missile radar.

our LCS sure can fit MK41, even up to 32 vls, just need to design it before built. what type VLS is up to customer choose (extra cost). our LCS also not support Aster(in Sylver)due to Smart-S 3D Radar is support US standard missile which is Mica & ESSM, should be also Camm with software upgrade. i think our LCS should be fit with VL-MICA vertical launch system to fire Mica(m) SAM.

Radar playing importance role which missile system will be use.
Like thales herakles & Selex ES KRONOS AESA radar only support france standard Sylver VLS which means Aster and SCALP Naval.

basically navy ship now weapon system like bellow, US not allow US made ship using France system. some missile/weapon can support both system.

US made ship --> US system weapon like Arleigh Burke-class, USS Freedom class.
Euro made ship --> US system weapon like Meko series, F100, Type 26, Gowind class, Sigma class
Euro made ship --> France system weapon like Fremm series, SG Formidable class, Type 45. La Fayette class
China made ship --> China system option integration with France systen, US system
Russia Made ship --> Russia system weapon
South Korea ship --> US system weapon.

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Israeli Pilot Dies After F-16I Ejection Following Gaza Attack

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TEL AVIV — Israel lost one of its front line F-16I fighters on Wednesday and the pilot died following a strike mission in Gaza, said Lt. Col. Peter Lerner, an Israeli military spokesman.

According to Lerner, the pilot and navigator were returning to their home base southwest of Beersheba around 5 p.m. when, “for some reason, they felt the need to eject.”

The pilot's death was killed as a result of the ejection while the navigator suffered only light injuries.

As of 10 p.m. on Wednesday, the Israeli military could not say whether a technical malfunction or human error was to blame for the Class A mishap.

However, in an indication that human error was to blame, Lerner said the Air Force did not plan to ground the F-16I fleet pending the ongoing investigation.

“We have no specifics yet to offer. It happened while they were landing. … An inquiry is ongoing to review the circumstances,” Lerner told Defense News.

The lost fighter was part of a considerable force package dispatched Wednesday in response to a Gaza-launched rocket that landed in the southern Israeli town of Sderot. The launch marked the second such attack on Sderot in two months, and — while only two people were treated for shock and no physical injuries were sustained — the rocket landed very close to a school where children were in their classrooms.


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Israeli Air Force pilot killed in F-16 crash

An Israel Air Force pilot was killed during a crash landing of an F-16I jet fighter jet in southern Israel on Wednesday evening. The aircraft’s navigator ejected from the plane and escaped with only minor injuries.

The pilot has been named as Major Ohad Cohen from the Ramon Air Force Base.

The jet, which was landing at Ramon Air Force Base in the Negev after conducting an air strike on the Gaza Strip, caught fire. IAF commnder Maj.-Gen. Amir Eshel has appointed an investigation.

In July 2013, an F-16I on a training flight crashed in the Mediterranean Sea, some 50 km. off the coast of the Gaza Strip. The two-seater jet fighter was taking part in a training exercise in which it attempted an interception. In that incident, the plane’s pilot, an IAF flight instructor and navigator, who was being trained, safely ejected from the aircraft and parachuted to the sea before being rescued.

In November 2010, an IAF pilot and navigator were killed when their F-16I fighter jet crashed in southern Israel. The jet was leading four aircraft in a training exercise when it suddenly fell to the ground without reporting any problems.

In September 2009, an F-16 crashed outside of Hebron, killing Assaf Ramon, the son of astronaut Col. Ilan Ramon, who died in the Columbia explosion in 2003.

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Oct 6 2016, 10:07 AM)
i say that's the chronology of 18 crashes from 1969 until 2007 and i did mention " i think we had few crashes after 2007 till now.." maybe not major or emergency landing, etc
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actually last crash after 2007 was in pulau perak in 2013
after that got one emergency landing in bukit sentosa last august but thats it
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QUOTE(Naskah @ Oct 6 2016, 10:16 AM)
how about our EC725 heli? still not fit to fly after recent crash in Norway?
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The Polish government has cancelled talks with Airbus Helicopters on a multi-billion euro deal to buy military helicopters. The decision reopens the door to the helicopter makers that failed in the original tender.

Poland's Development Ministry said late on Tuesday that the negotiating position of the two sides on the purchase of 50 Caracal helicopters for 13.5 billion zlotys (3.14 billion euros) was "so different that further talks are pointless."

The collapse of talks also shelves a major offset deal agreed under the previous Polish government.

The ministry said that offers made by Airbus Helicopters had "failed to properly secure Poland's economic and security interests." Polish officials had earlier indicated that the value of the deal should match the value of the purchase.

Offset agreements - where the seller of a product or service agrees to invest in sectors or goods on the buyer's side to compensate or enhance the value of the deal - are common in the military industry.

The decision to buy the helicopters from Airbus was made by the previous government, led by the center-right, pro-European party Civic Platform, as part of plans to modernize the military over the next 10 years, spending about 35 billion euros, and was triggered by regional tensions over Russia's annexation of Crimea from Ukraine.


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New targeting system to double range of Russia's Pantsir air defense system

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TULA, October 6. /TASS/. The upgraded Pantsir-SM combined surface-to-air missile and anti-aircraft artillery weapon system, equipped with a multifunctional targeting system, will be able to destroy targets 40 kilometers away - twice the range of the current configuration, the first deputy CEO, chief designer of the Instrument Design Bureau KBP, in Tula (an affiliate of Rostec), Alexander Khomyakov, told the media.

"The newly-developed multi-functional targeting system incorporating an active phased array radar doubles Pantsir’s effective range," Khomyakov said.

He recalled that the range of fire of the current system Pantsir-S1 is about 20 kilometers, while the next generation, Pantsir-SM can hit targets 40 kilometers away.

The new Pantsir will be able to identify targets at a distance of 75 kilometers (in contrast to the current model’s 40-kilometer capability, Khomyakov said.

The components of a newly-developed air defense system are in the testing phase. Khomyakov said nothing about when they may be completed.

Last August the Russian Defense Ministry said that Pantsir-SM would go operational "very soon." According to earlier reports, the new system will be armed with a high-speed missile noticeably surpassing the current equivalents. There have been reports work is in progress on Pantsir’s naval and Arctic configurations.

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So the LMS is ~70m ship with rm200mil/usd50mil price cap include weapons etc
ASM system maybe can scrap older Exocet/Otomat launcher from inventory

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Air Force Plane crash in Guinea: Two people including a young Guinean pilot and a French national

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According to information published in the Guinean media, a small Tertras type of plane is crashed on the military base in Conakry airport.
 
The accident killed two people including a young Guinean pilot and a French national. The causes of the accident are not yet known.

The Guinean Defence Minister Mohamed Diané said on his Facebook page: "Following the accident of the airplane of military surveillance that occurred this morning at Conakry airport, I present on behalf of President Alpha Condé my deepest condolences to the families of two victims. "

The head of the national defense department announced the establishment of a crisis and begin investigations to determine the causes of this tragedy.


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Japan Wants Combat Drones That Can Fly in Formation With Its Fighters

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The Japanese Ministry of Defense has released new details about its plans for future unmanned aircraft that would fly in supporting roles, aiding piloted fighters in the Japanese Air Self-Defense Force, or JASDF. Specifically, JASDF is hoping to add two distinct craft to its fleet: unmanned wingmen that would fly in formation with and receive commands from a pilot in a conventional fighter, and a high-flying ballistic-missile defense (BMD) aircraft that would use sensor arrays to track missile threats.

The BMD aircraft is slated to enter service around 2030, while the the first iteration of the unmanned wingman—which will fly ahead of fighters as a sensor carrier—is to be developed in the next 15 to 20 years. A second version of the unmanned wingman that will fire munitions and act as a missile sponge, directing incoming threats toward itself and away from the manned fighter, will be developed with the same airframe and engine as the sensor carrier if all goes according to plan. The development of these Combat Support Unmanned Aircraft is outlined in a report from the Japanese Defense Ministry's purchasing office, the Acquisition, Technology & Logistics Agency (ATLA), which was provided to Aviation Week.

Unmanned wingman aircraft could combine autonomous actions with commands from a fighter pilot to fire missiles, search for targets, and lure away incoming missile attacks.

Given the difficulty of programming an autonomous system with the aerial maneuvers necessary for successful air-to-air engagements, most countries have focused on air-to-surface platforms for unmanned aircraft. Japan, however, seems to be more optimistic and hopes the unmanned craft can fly alongside its advanced stealth fighter aircraft, the F-3, which is currently under development with a planned production date in 2027. Japan's F-3s could be updated to control the unmanned wingmen, which would automatically execute maneuvers with the manned fighter and take commands from the flight leader, such as attacking designated targets or searching specific areas. The drones would then autonomously decide the best way to execute the pilot's orders.

Though programming the unmanned wingmen will require very advanced AI systems, there is one big advantage to having an unmanned aircraft in a dogfighting role: It could pull maneuvers that a human pilot could never withstand with reflexes that a human pilot could never dream of. The drones could also intercept incoming missile threats and neutralize them through maneuvering, electromagnetic countermeasures, or as a last result, impacting the missile. Sacrificing the drone to protect the pilot would only be a last resort considering the unmanned wingmen would be much more expensive than a missile.

The unmanned wingmen would be particularly useful for the F-3, which is currently designed to be a fighter with high endurance and heavy armaments at the expense of maneuverability. One possible configuration is a single unmanned wingman acting as a sensor hub while another in the formation carries weapons, according to Aviation Week. Another possibility is to have the manned fighter hang back as the information hub while multiple armed autonomous wingmen fly ahead to pursue targets.

The ballistic-missile detector aircraft would likely be a high-altitude aircraft capable of sustained flight. There was no mention of the BMD carrying weapons, but it would instead use infrared sensors and other detecting systems to locate and track ballistic missile threats.


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