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post Sep 19 2016, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 18 2016, 05:21 PM)
from defense pakistan, simple to said C-705 made in indo without GPS/Beidou module,so missile only can shot target from direct radar guidance
Source: http://defence.pk/threads/indonesian-presi...2#ixzz4Kb74UwyC

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It would be a whole new level of incompetency to fire a missile without a lock from the targeting system doh.gif so I don't think this is the explanation
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post Sep 19 2016, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 08:26 AM)
'Murica, in a nutshell. Blatant patriotism, 24-7 surveillance, militarized police and fat dudes. laugh.gif
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With over 30 years of officially being labelled as the Great Satan by the Muslim world, and the source of their grudge extending all the way back to 1945, they have no choice.

QUOTE(thpace @ Sep 19 2016, 10:02 AM)
Even if dont have, it should have build in inertia guidance to at least guide it to last know position in case radar guidnace is lost before the missle terminal guidance switch on.

Tak kan indo so cheapsake until inertia guidance module also want to omit.
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I dunno, is inertial guidance module very common now? my brain still stuck in Cold War era where inertial guidance is "SO HIGH TECH" laugh.gif

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 19 2016, 09:30 AM)
means indo navy no network datalink linked, so just depend own ship radar provide guidance. 
if look it is low cost ship, it should be possible.
in other forum said C-705 indo spec without include GPS/baidu module.
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I'm not talking about network link, which I assume is beyond the capability of these cheapo China antiship missiles. I'm saying it seems quite ridiculous that anyone would fire a guided missile without the onboard targeting system actually acquiring the target, which would be the case if it was out of range. I mean surely even if its some kind of cheapo targeting system, if the target is 50km out when firing a 40km missile, there must be a big sign on the system that says OUT OF RANGE.... rolleyes.gif

....maybe it was written in Chinese doh.gif doh.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:42 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 19 2016, 11:59 AM)
A diversionary operation by Force 136, led by Tun Ibrahim Ismail were to launch attacks to try and convince the Japanese that any landings will be conducted on the Kra Isthmus, north of Malaya.
who is Tun Ibrahim Ismail? I do not recall the name from what I read about Force 136.

QUOTE(Frozen_Sun @ Sep 19 2016, 08:44 PM)
Good thing much of SEA was bypassed by Allied forces...except for Pinoys and Burmese who suffered a lot
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Seeing as other than Pinoys and Burmese we are the only nation left in SEA involved in WW2, yes we were verrrrrry lucky.

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post Sep 20 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Sep 20 2016, 11:07 AM)
You should read his book ' Have you met mariam ?'....
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see if I can find. I wiki-ed him. Yeah sounds like he should be in Sejarah textbooks.
QUOTE(mrhulk @ Sep 20 2016, 10:15 AM)
i hear a rumor that we have underground military complex like pentagon but built inside a hill...is it true?
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you mean like Mount Cheyenne.

underground office is hardly surprising, but probably not the kind that can withstand direct nuclear strike laugh.gif
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post Sep 20 2016, 02:00 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Sep 20 2016, 01:01 PM)
'Have you met mariam' is more likes a memoir/biography, but 75% are about wwii...  there are a very detail xplanation about 'oatmeal-violin ops'... how he and 3 others only managed to land in malaya after 3rd attempt. They landed near perhentian island using RAF Catalina ...
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have you read The Jungle Is Neutral by Spencer Chapman? he was the guy in charge of Force 136 ops in Semenanjung
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post Sep 20 2016, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 20 2016, 02:45 PM)
Bizarrely, aside from some early sabotage action immediately after the Japanese occupation, Chapman spent nearly all of his time desperately hiding in the jungle, evading Japanese patrols until the end of the war.
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his fellow angmohs were practically split up singly or in pairs. Like Op Gladio and the French Maquis, Force 136 could only hope to inconvenience the occupation forces, force the invaders to spend troops securing the rear areas and score propaganda points until a real invasion attempt can be made... and for us it was thankfully too late in the end.

Frankly most of the manpower resisting the Japanese were the chinese resistance groups, with 1 or 2 Force 136 advisors in each group. And there were plenty of cells in Singapore ofc which led to Changi Beach... but because of politics and the Communist insurgency this is de-emphasised in our history rolleyes.gif

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post Sep 20 2016, 05:47 PM

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Indeed... truth be told majority of people did not do anything to resist the occupation, my own ancestors included. We simply aren't the fighting type. Japs left us alone jugak (truly hard luck for Singkies tho)

And afterwards, not only did the commies rob us of money and goods, we also suffered the stigma for decades simply for being the same race as commie terrorists, so definitely to us they are KNN Commies™
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post Sep 21 2016, 12:04 PM

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BAE Systems awarded long-stalled Brazilian howitzer modernisation deal

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Daniel Wasserbly, Washington, DC and Victor Barreira, Paris - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
20 September 2016

BAE Systems has been awarded a long-delayed USD54 million contract to provide 32 upgraded 155 mm M109A5+ BR self-propelled howitzers (SPHs) to the Brazilian Army, the company announced on 19 September.

Brazil received 32 M109A5s to be modernised and complement 40 legacy M109A3s. (Victor Barreira)

"Production is anticipated to begin in October with vehicle deliveries beginning in 2018," BAE Systems said. "Final deliveries and the beginning of training and support in Brazil are expected to take place by the end of 2018."

The work will upgrade 32 former US Army M109A5 SPHs to an M109A5+ BR configuration for Brazil. The Foreign Military Sales deal had been stalled since a letter of offer and acceptance between the Brazilian Army and US government was signed in December 2014, but the deliveries will only be about a year later than expected under a recently revised plan.


http://www.janes.com/article/63959/bae-sys...ernisation-deal

Similar to our deal. Wonder for us who ultimately pays and how much it will be.

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post Sep 21 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(junkyman @ Sep 21 2016, 03:23 PM)
Argentina current best choice will be Mirage F1 from France or opt for Pakistan / China build JF-17. Korean made K-50 just too expensive and face protest from the British
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French again? After what happened last time... brows.gif

Buy china lah
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post Sep 21 2016, 07:30 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 21 2016, 03:57 PM)
for low budget prc jf17 or l15 seems to be the best deal.. probably prc will receive in return some of their soybean and hogs
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STEAK! rclxm9.gif

Nah. Argentina sembang kencang only lah*. Their budget cannot tahan it. Even if they buy they'll just become target practice for Eurofighter Typhoons brows.gif

*just like ASEAN defence procurement doh.gif
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post Sep 21 2016, 11:56 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 21 2016, 08:44 PM)
if falkand better shore based sam and missile defense
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They have Typhoons, Rapier SAMs and Starstreak MANPADs
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post Sep 22 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 22 2016, 09:57 AM)
China propose JF-17 with LS-6 glide bomb and GB-G to attack Falkland airbase, CM-400AKG  to attack warship,  laugh.gif
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By the time and IF Argentina can actually scrape up enough cash to actually mount a threat, they will also have to contend with fully operational QE2

Those JF-17s will have to go through Typhoons supported by F-35Bs and then glide bombs can be dealt with by C-RAM

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post Sep 22 2016, 02:01 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 22 2016, 01:11 PM)
let wait and see.
byw, i don't think Argentina will attack Falkland went QE2 is in Falkland. DQ2 will come to Falkland if Falkland take control by Argentina.  affcouse QE2 will come to visit Falkland  time-to-time.
also those C-RAM easy run out of ammo in 1 minutes. glide bomb just 1 type of bomb.
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Lol Argentina don't have a chance of overtaking UK defence development from behind.

There's not much reason for QE2 to visit Falklands other than for show once or twice in the ship's career. Certainly QE2 doesn't need to station there for deterrence. If it is really committed south in response to Argentinian moves we can expect a real shooting war to break out soon.
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post Sep 27 2016, 02:33 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 27 2016, 10:35 AM)
Unless you are a Chinese shipyard, I thought if take 1 year to build frigate-sized ship is usual timeframe?
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Quote from article, the bolded part is the most worrisome. We may not see the first Gowind actually active until 2020! and what about the rest of the class? at 36 months a ship by the time we launch the last Gowind we might be ready to start building its replacement! at that build rate it would most definitely be cheaper to buy our ships from anybody!

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Fabrication started in Lumut in late December, 2015 or early January, this year while the keel laying ceremony was only held on March 8. And almost six months later, no one will say officially about the launch date.

It was expected that DCNS will beat BNS to the punch. Lorient is a “hot” yard complete with steel cutting facilities while BNS is a “cold” one – it has not build any ships since the last Kedah-class, KD Selangor. Work on KD Selangor started in 2006 while the ship was launched in 2009 and commissioned a year later.

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post Sep 27 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 27 2016, 05:06 PM)
according preview news report, BNS will launch each LCS ship every 6 month after 1 ship launching (just hope so). so all ship will will finish construction n 2020,
all ship after launch, will continue assembly of the component, module , system, missile take about 1 year each ship. sea trail for 4-6 month。
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If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

Best case.

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post Sep 29 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 28 2016, 11:22 PM)
"I am serving notice to the United States that this will be the last military exercise," Duterte said referring to the next month's joint marine exercise with the U.S.
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confirm China pao dy

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Sep 28 2016, 11:37 PM)

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lol RT
that "al Nusra" guy is already being called out for wearing a gold ring
Russia scared rebels receive MANPADs? Sorry I have no sympathy considering what Russian-supported rebels did with their BUK elsewhere

QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Sep 29 2016, 09:46 AM)
Kawasaki C-2 are cheaper with same capacity (vs A400M).
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almost no one buys Japanese stuff because its heavily customised and not sure about their aftermarket service
they also sell MPA and AWACS, but no foreign buyers
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post Sep 29 2016, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(yinchet @ Sep 29 2016, 07:36 PM)
the 2nd gowind very likely to be delayed.
Mainly it affected by bns undertaking 2 more main project the Lekiu and submarine midlife upgrade.
I expect the speed will improve once bns delivered the first gowind class.
We would likely to see 3 gowind class to be build at the same time.
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Good to hear.

Speaking of which, the Kasturis are 30+ years old already. Any idea of their out of service date?
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post Sep 30 2016, 10:00 AM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Sep 29 2016, 11:08 PM)
lel.
inkaming K2 vs Type 10 MBT argument biggrin.gif
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No question. The K2 is some 15 tons heavier and probably comparable to Leo 2a4.... Might be too heavy for our doctrine... and we need to translate the Korean manuals brows.gif

Speaking of which, are our TUDM pilots and ground crew conversant in Russian by now? laugh.gif beyond cyka blyat there is brows.gif
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post Sep 30 2016, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2016, 04:38 PM)
I heard this anecdote from a Singaporean source that basically says 'in any war with Malaysia, Singapore must achieve victory within five days, if not we will lose the initiative and face possible collapse'.

Sounds like BS, but any idea if this has some grain of truth? :confused:
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30 days lah
Within that time they expect to win, reach a diplomatic solution or receive reinforcements (cough Murica cough)

Also got Singkie confidently tell me their spearhead can reach KL in 3 hours doh.gif guess that's why they always fly up the highway, they are practicing doh.gif doh.gif
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post Oct 2 2016, 11:34 PM

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Go outstation for 3 days, tercetuslah MY v SG war in military thread now doh.gif

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Sep 30 2016, 07:39 PM)
Also I hear the main strategy in a war with malaysia would be establishing a sustainable buffer zone instead of looking to defeat the malaysian armed forces in detail as they simply aren't structured for a long campaign.
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^ 1 of their plans, but from what I hear seems they expect to strike at military and command/control targets. Also, think heli and coastal amphib ops - since their strengths are technological.

Active duty NSmen will be involved. I know for certain they do use NSmen in their commando, Guards, tank and artillery units.

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Oct 1 2016, 01:51 AM)
I think we just voicing out opinion on a hypothetical scenario. See previous posts,if ts think any are over the line feel free to take action.

Also I like to think we here at military /k are more reasonable and have better grasp of military realities than people at regular /k, amirite?

certainly not to MALAYSIA STRONKl! NO,SINGAPORE STRONK! primary school levels.laugh.gif
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Inb4 5,000 Johor commando whistling.gif

QUOTE(heavyduty @ Oct 1 2016, 02:38 AM)
Any scenarios involving Singapore and Malaysia going to war belongs in a novel or in a military academy syllabus because it doesn't make sense at the present day.

there is no reason for both countries to be at each other throats other than to satisfy the fantasies of immature people who have the luxury of not seeing the true face of war.bersyukur dengan keamanan yang ada people
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WOW heavyduty, boleh jadi sasterawan negara ni!

QUOTE(dangerminimouse @ Oct 1 2016, 10:00 AM)
Hezbollah was very effective against Israel's f15 and f16s, they use anti tank missles and their home made rockets easily rain down on Israel.

Not saying that we wanna attack Singapork but an effective message is to build hidden short range missle launchers around south peninsular. Small island can easily rain down rockets...will cripple their economy.
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How many F15s and F16s did Hezbollah shoot down again?

Singkie is probably #1 country which can easily acquire Iron Dome. IMHO no point repeating failed tactic. Besides their GMLRS and ARTHUR can easily do counterbattery fires

QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Oct 1 2016, 07:31 PM)
Five Power Defence Arrangements (FPDA) land exercise: Ex SUMAN WARRIOR 16
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what did UK send this time? 2 staff and a biplane? doh.gif

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