The Egyptian Gowind production rate is fast. First steel cutting of the Egyptian Gowind was in April 2015 whereas the Malaysian Gowind first steel cutting was in December 2014. Maybe because of the Saudis money flow.

If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

Best case.

Good to hear.

Speaking of which, the Kasturis are 30+ years old already. Any idea of their out of service date?

no need mention which is better
definetely K2

errr.. i think country a vs country b discussion is not encouraged in this tered lar

not sure but past tered ts yinchet can clarify?

how do you define victory against Msia? flat out reach Putrajaya in <1 week?

complete disability of our military assets, rendering us defenseless?

or complete wipe out until Perlis?

just remember this, wars are not won on battlefields, its logistics

you can have the strongest most invincible army/navy/airforce but if you have no ammo nor manpower, how do you field them?

still kinda impossible, even if bulk of armed forces gone, guerillas and resistance fighters will appear and bla bla

how will Sinkie maintain control with meagre amount of manpower also?
though if complete victory by pure genocide then..

From a pure military point of view i.e. disregard politics, reason to invade, regional chain reactions, occupation period etc etc, sinkie would win in probably 48 hours. All major Malayan military assets would b wiped out by d saf in d shock & awe initial stage. (Our radars don't work, remember). At this stage, militarily, we're oredi defeated. By d time we wise up to wat had happened, jb would've been captured. And d rest history...
& thr's one more sensitive point...

that is one panglima vision

not just Samudera Class but Jebat as well

FAC will be replaced by the LMS

70-ish meter long with specific mission module for their own specific role based on malaysiandefence's article.. 

Still not clear, but it will also have much more sea endurance then the SGPV IINM

so they lms will have modular mcm solution that can be swapped out with other modules like asw
i dun think any chinese shipyard have that kind of solution offered only western/european have that

damen


sigma

SGPV = Gowind right?

I don't much like the sound of that - means 2nd batch Gowind no SSMs? sounds a bit silly. what SAM system has been proposed for the 2nd batch SGPV? what is the sea endurance for SGPV?
jump separately IINM.

I do *not* fancy being in an armoured vehicle landing by parachute. literal

You're probably right on the different doctrine issue.
Russian airborne doctrine is different from western ones. Russian airborne forces is like an autonomous mini-army tasked with special-forces type missions while western airborne forces are treated like normal infantry that you can happen to deploy by air.

Also, an airborne drop with too many infantry and no heavy support whatsoever seems like mass suicide to me. Russian airborne forces aren't that numerous to begin with, so 140 paratroopers and 3 BMPs are probably all that they can get in most situations.

Definally need to extend hull for more vls system.

And i still wondering why our navvy have not install any ciws. Tat standard 40mmb gun is not a rapid fire gun anyway

i will die laugh if they use seacaptor. 

CIWS in many Naval "think" already outdated weapon. due to

1) Due to fire rate 4xxx/per minutes, base on  ammunition have,  CIWS ammunition can empty in 1-2 minutes
2) CIWS only fire single direction, if facing multiple missile attack than still not help,
3) CIWS not good effective to against supersonic missile.
4) CIWS is complex system. many module, more complex maintanance,  means extra space too. maybe need extra maintenance crew
5) CIWS use high electric power, like example Gatekeeper use 90kw power, Phalanx CIWS use 75kw of electric power, compare to Rheinmetall Millennium 35mm only use 15kw+ power   
6) current new radar,ECM, countermeasure and sam missile more optimizing to counter ASM.... 
7) Missile  more provide show "power". 

Gatekeeper system diagram, look complex.



I can't find Plalanx ciws system diagram, but just land base

my word is refer to traditional goal keeper or phalanx issue.
Laser, Searam, Millennium cannon should be ok, due to no complex. and advance
i understand ciws is last line of defence, but country mindef/navy boss usually think different, i believe more to different navy culture issue.
my word is refer to goal keeper or phalanx.
Millenium Gun more like navy gun with CIWS feature, it should soon will become popular.

I think mainly because the camm is marketed more of as as point defence system instead area defence.

But since both are done by MBDA. I dont see a logistic or maintenance issue. Though i would rather go for a more common area defence platform like the aster system which have been installed widely. Camm still brand new