Can't wait for this new phone into my collection!!!!
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iPhone has announced !!!!
Can't wait for this new phone into my collection!!!! |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:06 AM
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Jan 10 2007, 03:45 AM
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4gb for USD499=RM1800
5gb for USD599=Rm2160 taking 1usd=rm3.6 that's cheap! |
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Jan 10 2007, 03:50 AM
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pictures from engadget!
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Jan 10 2007, 03:51 AM
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i am getting this phone no matter what!!
they start shipping in june2007 asia is getting it in 2008...... This post has been edited by lokgotz: Jan 10 2007, 04:02 AM |
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Jan 10 2007, 03:55 AM
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specs:
3.5in touch screen 11.6mm thin 2mp camera proximity sensor light sensor accellerometer quadband, GSM, EDGE no 3G, but with wifi! EDIT official specs Technical Specifications Screen size 3.5 inches Screen resolution 320 by 480 at 160 ppi Input method Multi-touch Operating system OS X Storage 4GB or 8GB GSM Quad-band (MHz: 850, 900, 1800, 1900) Wireless data Wi-Fi (802.11b/g) + EDGE + Bluetooth 2.0 Camera 2.0 megapixels Battery[/] Up to 5 hours Talk / Video / Browsing Up to 16 hours Audio playback [b]Dimensions 4.5 x 2.4 x 0.46 inches / 115 x 61 x 11.6mm Weight 4.8 ounces / 135 grams This post has been edited by lokgotz: Jan 10 2007, 04:15 AM |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:05 AM
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Oh... My... God...
*tears* http://www.apple.com/iphone/ http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/ |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:15 AM
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Jan 10 2007, 04:56 AM
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holy hell!
that's beautiful. It'll arrive in Asia in 2008,eh? |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:19 AM
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wah confirm d ar?? same wallpaper as my handphone
 its a bit big , and its one phone that u cant afford to drop many times... |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:54 AM
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that was feckin cool! My gawd... i want one bad!
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Jan 10 2007, 06:51 AM
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this thing is wicked!!!!!!!!!!!!
lurrrveeeeeeee it |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:56 AM
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hahaha..... that's Apple. Their products always make Ppl WAHHHHHH............. right ??? which time the keynote din make the audience wahhhh........ ????? hehehee......
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Jan 10 2007, 08:55 AM
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Oh yeah- i expect the iphone to cost more than 399 or 299 since that is price with CONTRACT in the US. im estimating this baby to cost around RM3K when it hits here.
2008? thats too long isnt it? that probably means this wont be in japan for sometime. i will have to say the final iphone product is 1000x better than all those mock up designs..... EDIT-Can someone pls pm the admin so this is on low yatt main page news?! This post has been edited by carpathia: Jan 10 2007, 09:10 AM |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:04 AM
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not nice...very easy to slip...wah cheap? thts almost my salary.unless i earn USD salary.
proximity sensor light sensor accellerometer for wat? add more price? |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:06 AM
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I'm just waiting for the 3G version........ Jobs hinted at that during the keynote.......
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Jan 10 2007, 09:09 AM
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I find the phone a lil wee bit too 'slim' - then again, I can't even get a Mac machine in my hands up till now... this will just have to wait...
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Jan 10 2007, 09:11 AM
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I hope Apple Inc will come out with a widescreen ipod exactly like the iPhone minus the phone features.
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Jan 10 2007, 09:20 AM
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QUOTE(mikelee @ Jan 10 2007, 09:11 AM) I hope Apple Inc will come out with a widescreen ipod exactly like the iPhone minus the phone features. there should be an iPod with widescreen called iLounge...replacing the iPods |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:24 AM
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iPhone is ROX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It is everything. The best thing is it running in OSX. So powerful. widescreen iPod....internet.....phone. AWESOME. For sure will come out the 3G ver. Think still under development. This one is for temporary as everyone is waiting for the iPhone. Since is running OSX. Just want to know what is the spec for the processors of iPhone. It is so graphical. Should be great processors. This post has been edited by jehutyz: Jan 10 2007, 09:27 AM |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:28 AM
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since its gonna be released in 2008 only in asia, you think that we might end up with a 2nd gen iPhone?
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Jan 10 2007, 09:28 AM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 10 2007, 09:20 AM) there should be an iPod with widescreen called iLounge...replacing the iPods Where you found the source saying that it will be called iLounge? Anyway iLounge seems to be the ipod information website. iLounge  |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:37 AM
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i hope the casing type material is not the same as they use it on ipod video = easy scratch lolx
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Jan 10 2007, 09:38 AM
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zzz fingerprints on the touchscreen ftl
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Jan 10 2007, 09:51 AM
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I WANT!!!!.... omigosh... it looks fantabulous... specs r well n truly mindblowing (except for non 3G)...
come 2008, i'll own one!... hehehe...  |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 10:04 AM) not nice...very easy to slip...wah cheap? thts almost my salary.unless i earn USD salary. proximity sensor - to save battery, avoid ur face doing their own jobs on the touchscreenproximity sensor light sensor accellerometer for wat? add more price? light sensor - this is common, most of new phones nowadays got tat, k800i, n73, w810i etc etc accelerometer - tat is for the multitouch technology.. on screen control, without the use of stylus.. the tech are the price u pay for... |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:26 AM
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for non 3g part i dont mind actually ... wifi is kinda more than enough
 but the name is still iphone ... wasnt that 'brand/name' belongs to some other company? |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:41 AM
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Sweeeeet~ But the screen looks like it could break if sat down with this phone in your back pocket!!
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Jan 10 2007, 11:06 AM
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yer still think tht most apple product will go for the look only.....not performance.waste money
why OSx is good mer? issint tht gonna over load the processor? unless it is mobile RTOS |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:11 AM
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 11:06 AM) yer still think tht most apple product will go for the look only.....not performance.waste money why OSx is good mer? issint tht gonna over load the processor? unless it is mobile RTOS  you are not a Mac OS user? then you should try to you and give us feedback. |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:14 AM
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 10 2007, 04:45 AM) 4gb for USD499=RM1800 tat is the price for 2 yrs contract..5gb for USD599=Rm2160 taking 1usd=rm3.6 that's cheap! a sim free phone wont be that cheap.. QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 12:06 PM) yer still think tht most apple product will go for the look only.....not performance.waste money ya i am going to say wat babyk have said.. why OSx is good mer? issint tht gonna over load the processor? unless it is mobile RTOS no performance and over load processor? try os x and u will know the multitask capability behind.. |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 10 2007, 03:45 AM) 4gb for USD499=RM1800 That is the price with 2 years contract with the telco....5gb for USD599=Rm2160 taking 1usd=rm3.6 that's cheap! If getting the unit alone... i'm sure it'll be much much more expensive |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:22 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 10:25 AM) light sensor - this is common, most of new phones nowadays got tat, k800i, n73, w810i etc etc light sensor aka ambience sensor - to throttle the backlight for energy saving. e.g. in dark environment, backlight don't have to be so strong.accelerometer - tat is for the multitouch technology.. on screen control, without the use of stylus.. Nope, accelerometer is not for multitouch. Currently, it is mainly used to detect orientation of phone whether it is potrait or landscape mode. It is possible they incorporate other uses for it, like manipulating some UI based on (non-touch) gestures .. sorta like Wiimote? About the availability in Asia only in 2008: - hopefully drive price a bit lower - 2nd revision - fix bugs from first revision - introduced SDK during WWDC in June so that third-party developers can tweak their apps, create new ones for it - 3G - WiMax - Larger capacity - some China company reverse engineer it and hack it to run on their clone ala osx86 |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:23 AM
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 10 2007, 03:45 AM) 5gb for USD599=Rm2160 It's actually 8GB |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(krux @ Jan 10 2007, 12:22 PM) Nope, accelerometer is not for multitouch. Currently, it is mainly used to detect orientation of phone whether it is potrait or landscape mode. It is possible they incorporate other uses for it, like manipulating some UI based on (non-touch) gestures .. sorta like Wiimote? |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:33 AM
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Better start saving $$$$$$ now!!!
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Jan 10 2007, 11:34 AM
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i lurve this phone and will b shipping into asia only in 2008. this whole year im gonna eat bread n water. wana save money to get this 1!!!
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Jan 10 2007, 11:35 AM
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i heard from sum1, that the wifi thinggy is gonna take over 3g soon in the future. can u tell me why? wats the function?
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Jan 10 2007, 11:38 AM
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it's called the WiMax
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Jan 10 2007, 11:38 AM
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QUOTE(butterflydarling @ Jan 10 2007, 11:35 AM) i heard from sum1, that the wifi thinggy is gonna take over 3g soon in the future. can u tell me why? wats the function? completely different technology...3g VS WiMax now.. they got their advantage.. |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:44 AM
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wat are the advantage of wiMax over 3G?
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Jan 10 2007, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(butterflydarling @ Jan 10 2007, 12:44 PM) wat are the advantage of wiMax over 3G? advantages over 3G?WiMAX could be the 4G (fourth generation) of the communication system.. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:00 PM
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gosh gosh gosh!!
 i gonna be the first to get one when the iphone available in malaysia. come on apple make it in 2007, 2008 is a bit too long. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:04 PM
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im sure to get the phone then!!!!! weee~
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Jan 10 2007, 12:10 PM
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The price is so attractive!
Man, I regret getting Dopod... |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 10 2007, 11:11 AM) you are not a Mac OS user? then you should try to you and give us feedback. hope one day i got alot extra money to join the crowd(which i wont).actually i got turn off by ipods...nice look but sound quality crappy n pricy.. and its pc os...not many application support it. okie those ipod thingy/imac laptop i can give them the 9/10 for design..but for usage wise...they r way way too over rated. I think ppl buy MAC/apple just to be different bcoz they think tht can pay higher price and feel unique with tht design. maybe i m wrong..running OSx on pc might have the different experience with running it on the mobilephone.yeah if it is better than pc so wat..u still cant play many game or unable install many many apps. oh ya..accelerometer is for orentation...angle/degree.. beside, i think iphone is a PDA type phone rite? it might end up like pc-mac war(which they clearly lost it)/window-mac support apps war(need to say much?). i wonder who will built more plugins/ extra application for the iphone. oh...Japanese hp maker usually use SH proccessor in their phone..erm...OSx use what? anyway, this is just my 2cent opinion...i might be wrong. well atleast i dont waste money also on such thing like this.hahaha who knw after i use the iphone i also like it...but no point to rush for such expensive thing. |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:20 PM
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super cool!!!
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Jan 10 2007, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM) okie.. well, come out and meet me and i can give you a full new experiences on Mac. The feeling on typiing here and reading here is totally different from what you touch and what you can feel on a Mac hope one day i got alot extra money to join the crowd(which i wont).actually i got turn off by ipods...nice look but sound quality crappy n pricy.. and its pc os...not many application support it. okie those ipod thingy/imac laptop i can give them the 9/10 for design..but for usage wise...they r way way too over rated. I think ppl buy MAC/apple just to be different bcoz they think tht can pay higher price and feel unique with tht design. maybe i m wrong..running OSx on pc might have the different experience with running it on the mobilephone.yeah if it is better than pc so wat..u still cant play many game or unable install many many apps. oh ya..accelerometer is for orentation...angle/degree.. beside, i think iphone is a PDA type phone rite? it might end up like pc-mac war(which they clearly lost it)/window-mac support apps war(need to say much?). i wonder who will built more plugins/ extra application for the iphone. oh...Japanese hp maker usually use SH proccessor in their phone..erm...OSx use what? anyway, this is just my 2cent opinion...i might be wrong. well atleast i dont waste money also on such thing like this.hahaha who knw after i use the iphone i also like it...but no point to rush for such expensive thing.Just make a date and time and we can organize a tour for you to feel it  I am sure the Mac users here would like to join the tour and give you a brand new exprience too. From iPods to Mac computers |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:33 PM
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the battery lifetime should be more hours..5 hour is not enough
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Jan 10 2007, 12:38 PM
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this is what i called a phone~! i'm so inlove wif u, APPLE!!
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Jan 10 2007, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 10 2007, 12:26 PM) well, come out and meet me and i can give you a full new experiences on Mac. The feeling on typiing here and reading here is totally different from what you touch and what you can feel on a Mac Just make a date and time and we can organize a tour for you to feel it I am sure the Mac users here would like to join the tour and give you a brand new exprience too. From iPods to Mac computers  I don't mind...open my mind to a Mac...thinking of getting a lappy...but the price turns me off...where's ur location??? |
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Jan 10 2007, 12:51 PM
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I'd do anything for this phone. seriously. I'd sell my soul and be someones lapdog for this phone. diediediediedie
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Jan 10 2007, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM) okie.. So is that your conclusion or just for fun? I'd say... take a day and use a Mac before concluding, period. hope one day i got alot extra money to join the crowd(which i wont).actually i got turn off by ipods...nice look but sound quality crappy n pricy.. and its pc os...not many application support it. okie those ipod thingy/imac laptop i can give them the 9/10 for design..but for usage wise...they r way way too over rated. I think ppl buy MAC/apple just to be different bcoz they think tht can pay higher price and feel unique with tht design. maybe i m wrong..running OSx on pc might have the different experience with running it on the mobilephone.yeah if it is better than pc so wat..u still cant play many game or unable install many many apps. oh ya..accelerometer is for orentation...angle/degree.. beside, i think iphone is a PDA type phone rite? it might end up like pc-mac war(which they clearly lost it)/window-mac support apps war(need to say much?). i wonder who will built more plugins/ extra application for the iphone. oh...Japanese hp maker usually use SH proccessor in their phone..erm...OSx use what? anyway, this is just my 2cent opinion...i might be wrong. well atleast i dont waste money also on such thing like this.hahaha who knw after i use the iphone i also like it...but no point to rush for such expensive thing.QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Jan 10 2007, 12:41 PM) I don't mind...open my mind to a Mac...thinking of getting a lappy...but the price turns me off...where's ur location??? |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:01 PM
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Er, anyone wants to take put their deposits down and book their iPhone now?! That way d moment it lands here, U haf ur hands on one
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Jan 10 2007, 01:06 PM
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actually to how os x in iphone is not compatible or watever, forget about it first..
at least, by now we can see a new perspective in phony technology, a diff way we can utilize phones, u shud really watch the keynote to see how it will diff to current phone technology, smartphone etc etc... its a great leap from apple to the phone industry/tech |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 02:06 PM) actually to how os x in iphone is not compatible or watever, forget about it first.. ya.. apple just did sth new and advance technology.. at least, by now we can see a new perspective in phony technology, a diff way we can utilize phones, u shud really watch the keynote to see how it will diff to current phone technology, smartphone etc etc... its a great leap from apple to the phone industry/tech Crap just crap.. need wait till 2008 |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(shortleg88 @ Jan 10 2007, 12:41 PM) I don't mind...open my mind to a Mac...thinking of getting a lappy...but the price turns me off...where's ur location??? price turn you off? i think the PC turns you off more |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:41 PM
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Er, will U people stop the 'Mac's better than PC' or 'PCs better than Mac' issue already?!
 We're not on a debate to see which is better. Both has its pros and cons, and it's a matter of personal preference amongst many other things |
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Jan 10 2007, 01:44 PM
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Stay on the topic folks. *Vacumn cleaner standby*
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Jan 10 2007, 01:48 PM
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this thing juz pwned my N73ME >_<
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Jan 10 2007, 02:00 PM
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Not really impress v it, dunno y?
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Jan 10 2007, 02:01 PM
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QUOTE(macball @ Jan 10 2007, 02:00 PM) Not really impress v it, dunno y? because you do not watch it live when they intro the iPhone |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:12 PM
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u can still stream and watch the keynote..apple provides 2 links...one is to watch the iphone introduction only..the other is the whole keynote i think..
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holy hell
 , even better than Ipod Video, a new threat for pocket PC phones & a Zune killer  |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:29 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 10 2007, 03:01 PM) because you do not watch it live when they intro the iPhone ya agree wit it.. u wont be attracted by just the look and spec info..u will be attracted when u see how Jobs use it, zoom it, browse safari, not to say the Ipod sides.. |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:36 PM
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QUOTE(khazz @ Jan 10 2007, 12:33 PM) the battery lifetime should be more hours..5 hour is not enough Up to 5 hours for Talk / Video / Browsing... not for stanby... like normal phone.nice phone... nice software but... thinking about batery... built-in batery  |
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Jan 10 2007, 02:39 PM
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Hmm... something is bugging me on this...
I've been talking with a few mac head and we're uncertain on a few things, just to share: - Apple did say 2 years contract with Cingular. Does this mean no other way to get it besides signing up with the service provider? - Contract??? oh my, meaning you can't get away from just "buying one". - Well, meaning the phone will be "lock" for the service provider only? Unlocking mean voiding warranty.... bad news (hell no waiting for 2008 to hit asia)- OSX in a phone, yeah, but does it "looks like OS X" or is it really a OS X? meaning i can have my favourite apps in it anytime??? hmm... iMovie portable? Keynote lite? have to wait for review to answer all these question... |
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 11:55 AM) advantages over 3G? WiMAX isn't 4G. WiMAX is more of a larger scale WiFi.WiMAX could be the 4G (fourth generation) of the communication system.. QUOTE(khazz @ Jan 10 2007, 12:33 PM) the battery lifetime should be more hours..5 hour is not enough battery life with WiFi... expect to get only 2-3 hours max.Frankly speaking, I won't be getting the first version of the iPhone. Especially with 20GB flash memory in the horizon... I'll wait for the 20GB version (with enhanced battery technology... if it ever comes out).  Honestly, it came out exactly the way I thought it would especially with so many different versions (done by fans and artists) out there. Shortening or removing the top and bottom (black band) part and making it really 'fullscreen' would have made it perfect. Then again, the speakers and microphone placement would have been an issue. 61mm means it's 10mm smaller than my O2 XDA IIs and 11.6mm is really thin. I've yet to see the back of the phone as well. |
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 03:29 PM) ya agree wit it.. u wont be attracted by just the look and spec info.. ya.. especially the 3 advance sensor. Holy crap.. u will be attracted when u see how Jobs use it, zoom it, browse safari, not to say the Ipod sides..  i'm totally speechless while watching Jobs demo it |
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 10 2007, 03:40 PM) WiMAX isn't 4G. WiMAX is more of a larger scale WiFi. ya it isnt 4G exactly.. but just that 4G could utilise WiMAX |
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Jan 10 2007, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 10 2007, 02:40 PM) I've yet to see the back of the phone as well. where were you moo? ---> look here |
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Jan 10 2007, 03:38 PM
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You know... unless our local mobile services enable features like conferencing, we might practically will not be able to utilize some of iPhone's celebrated features.
Take the multiple voice mail selection feature for example, Cingular had to reinvent the voice mail architecture to accomodate that feature. QUOTE Jobs demanded special treatment from his phone service partner, Cingular, and he got it. He even forced Cingular to re-engineer its infrastructure to handle the iPhone's unique voicemail scheme. "They broke all their typical process rules to make it happen," says Tony Fadell, who heads Apple's iPod division. "They were infected by this product, and they were like, we've gotta do this!" What do you guys think?http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...75410-2,00.html This post has been edited by slumberus: Jan 10 2007, 03:38 PM |
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Jan 10 2007, 03:48 PM
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osx in a phone with intel processor, its gonna be the hottest phone ever
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Jan 10 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(slumberus @ Jan 10 2007, 03:38 PM) You know... unless our local mobile services enable features like conferencing, we might practically will not be able to utilize some of iPhone's celebrated features. Bet DIGI and MAXIS will never do itTake the multiple voice mail selection feature for example, Cingular had to reinvent the voice mail architecture to accomodate that feature. What do you guys think? QUOTE(xordMeztGeR @ Jan 10 2007, 03:48 PM) osx in a phone with intel processor, its gonna be the hottest phone ever Just wondering, possible to flash to WM5 somehow? |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:23 PM
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by 2008 the 2.0mp camera will be history already
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Jan 10 2007, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(overfloe @ Jan 10 2007, 05:23 PM) by 2008 the 2.0mp camera will be history already ya tat is so true.. but the camera isnt the 'wow' thing here.. |
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Jan 10 2007, 04:54 PM
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good luck to the battery lifetime man ....
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Jan 10 2007, 04:55 PM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 04:48 PM) ya tat is so true.. but the camera isnt the 'wow' thing here.. yup...if u so into photography better get a DSLR...or if u 1 easy travel, juz buy a digicam instead... nowadays digicam also getting slimmer and slimmer... |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:09 PM
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omg!!
this thing is big!! need big screen protector! 2mp camera is sufficient already for handphone. want better quality, buy digicam. much better. |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:20 PM
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iPhone will pawn all smart phones
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Jan 10 2007, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(Muhammad Nur Hanief @ Jan 10 2007, 05:20 PM) iPhone will pawn all smart phones yaya sure..it is damn cool....i will get one once it reach malaysia.  no 3G is not a problem. Still love it!! |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:37 PM
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just finish watching the iphone announcement......damn....sure gonna start kumpul duit and buy it as soon as it reaches here!!!!
maybe even gonna get a new mac by then....can kapel it nicely...hahaha |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:37 PM
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The screen is very impressive, as are the iPhone's specifications. To think that I was amazed by what the O2 XDA II mini had to offer. The iPhone has looks to kill, and the price tag is definitely stomachable.
fap fap fap. |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:37 PM
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Dunno, I lack the faith in Malaysia's telcos to enable the iPhones features. All i want now is Apple to release the iPod with the same interface and shape, take away the phone components and add a 80gb HD in its place.
Finger scrolling and pinching zoom ftw. |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:41 PM
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sweet phone..........omg!
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Jan 10 2007, 05:44 PM
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crazy..this..stuff..
sob2..very..nice..gajet |
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Jan 10 2007, 05:47 PM
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Say "Goodbye to Nokia"
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Jan 10 2007, 06:15 PM
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Guys, I don't understand something:
QUOTE iPhone is a revolutionary new mobile phone that allows you to make a call by simply pointing your finger at a name or number in your address book, a favorites list, or a call log. It also automatically syncs all your contacts from a PC, Mac, or Internet service. And it lets you select and listen to voicemail messages in whatever order you want - just like email. POINTING???? NOT EVEN TOUCHING IT???? p/s: I didn't watch the keynote yet. |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:18 PM
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somehow the design doesnt have the 'apple looks'
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Jan 10 2007, 06:19 PM
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Has anyone got alternative link so I can watch the keynote.... I cant watch the keynote from the official site..
USD 499 is considered cheap la... |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:25 PM
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sad to say ... oledi make public now and still need to wait ... till June ... i think the other "company" will have the "similiar" product
coming or planning in their factory .... by then ... who knows that this will be "the thing of the past " I am mac user myself .... in my opinion ;;; this tactic of marketing that " mac iphone" is not so wise for "consumer" to wait that long period of time . |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:25 PM
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jan 10 2007, 06:15 PM) Guys, I don't understand something: the term point here means you are 'pointing' at the device but the tip of your finger is physically touching the screen.POINTING???? NOT EVEN TOUCHING IT???? p/s: I didn't watch the keynote yet. |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:28 PM
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QUOTE(slumberus @ Jan 10 2007, 06:25 PM) the term point here means you are 'pointing' at the device but the tip of your finger is physically touching the screen.  |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(thaksin_Sucks @ Jan 10 2007, 07:19 PM) Has anyone got alternative link so I can watch the keynote.... I cant watch the keynote from the official site.. USD 499 wont be the price for a sim-free iPhone...USD 499 is considered cheap la... |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE(jaya_pc87 @ Jan 10 2007, 10:26 AM) but the name is still iphone ... wasnt that 'brand/name' belongs to some other company? |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:40 PM
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oily face touching the smooth touchscreen.
i can imagine myself wiping it everytime i take a call... shudder. |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:47 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Jan 10 2007, 02:39 PM) Hmm... something is bugging me on this... Bout the contract thingy.. it only applicable in US.. US style is different from us here.. can simply change service provider... bout not over there.. all bout contract... other major player in US are AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon etc... and what i heard Cingular is not the best service provider in US.. lot of problem.. and this maybe the thing Apple should look into... I've been talking with a few mac head and we're uncertain on a few things, just to share: - Apple did say 2 years contract with Cingular. Does this mean no other way to get it besides signing up with the service provider? - Contract??? oh my, meaning you can't get away from just "buying one". - Well, meaning the phone will be "lock" for the service provider only? Unlocking mean voiding warranty.... bad news (hell no waiting for 2008 to hit asia)- OSX in a phone, yeah, but does it "looks like OS X" or is it really a OS X? meaning i can have my favourite apps in it anytime??? hmm... iMovie portable? Keynote lite? have to wait for review to answer all these question... |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:53 PM
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Will all that specs....
No mention of the battery life? Hmmm.... very important..... |
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Jan 10 2007, 06:57 PM
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 10 2007, 03:45 AM) 4gb for USD499=RM1800 ho ho ho5gb for USD599=Rm2160 taking 1usd=rm3.6 that's cheap! it's $599 with 2-yr contract from cingular expect double price when not in contract |
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Jan 10 2007, 07:01 PM
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i think it mention a 5 hr battery life of talk time.. 16 hour music.. 2008 asia? so loong
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Jan 10 2007, 07:03 PM
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QUOTE(julchin_09 @ Jan 10 2007, 07:53 PM) Will all that specs.... 5hrs for talktime/video/browse timeNo mention of the battery life? Hmmm.... very important..... 16hrs for audio playback standby time - dunno? QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 10 2007, 07:57 PM) ho ho ho ya.. w/o contract at least usd 0.5*499 + 499it's $599 with 2-yr contract from cingular expect double price when not in contract This post has been edited by youngkies: Jan 10 2007, 07:04 PM |
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Jan 10 2007, 08:27 PM
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everyone seems to start saving for this iphone. no doubt the looks of the wallpaper sure hell of a screen..i'd like to save for one as well hehe.
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Jan 10 2007, 08:38 PM
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hmmm, looking for a PIM function...can only see an iCal logo....perhaps got the light weight ical, to do functions...
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Jan 10 2007, 08:53 PM
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It's a Apple Phone, it will obviously sync will Mac OSX system. Using iTunes as mentioned in the keynote.
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Jan 10 2007, 08:54 PM
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Now to save for a MBP and the iPhone.
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Jan 10 2007, 09:13 PM
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Can I see the streaming again?
Anyone has the link? |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(Comic_King @ Jan 10 2007, 06:47 PM) Bout the contract thingy.. it only applicable in US.. US style is different from us here.. can simply change service provider... bout not over there.. all bout contract... How about smthg scary to think about...If I were a local telco seeing all this hype, negotiate deal with Apple to be exclusive seller, lock units to network contracts, just like JN & US. Start a new local trend! 111 |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:18 PM
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QUOTE(Comic_King @ Jan 10 2007, 07:47 PM) Bout the contract thingy.. it only applicable in US.. US style is different from us here.. can simply change service provider... bout not over there.. all bout contract... other major player in US are AT&T, T-Mobile, Verizon etc... and what i heard Cingular is not the best service provider in US.. lot of problem.. and this maybe the thing Apple should look into... Cingular IS AT&T (Ma Bell) IIRC.It's a greedy biatchy company that most of tech-savvy USA want nothing to do with. As for the iPhone, try to keep it too 699USD unlocked plz- or I'll just get it from eBay. |
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Jan 10 2007, 09:33 PM
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But the front looks too plain, no Apple logo or something?
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Jan 10 2007, 09:59 PM
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apple logo at the back...
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Jan 10 2007, 10:01 PM
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maybe it would appear on the back like the Ipods...
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Jan 10 2007, 10:02 PM
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Again.... I think I'll wait for the 3G version.....
Imagine! iChat on my phone!!!!! *drool* |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:09 PM
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hahhaa... slowly lar.. it's just a pre-released version of the phone. some of the softwares is still not finely tuned yet.if they release it to us now , we might not be able to enjoy the device fully as what those Americans will be. Coz our MAXIS dun have push IMAP email with any of the BIG email giants , then our EDGE sucks , WIFI coverage is not vast & etc. I just not sure how much i will be able to enjoy the iphone fully if i m unable to use all those functions that it has. but overall it's a great concept to combine everything into 1 small thin devices which none of the company is able to do it yet.
any1 START SAVING NOW!!!!! i m sure it will be a GREAT phone when it reaches out hands in 2008. QUOTE Can I see the streaming again? Anyone has the link? here's the link http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/ This post has been edited by rhesusv: Jan 10 2007, 10:10 PM |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:12 PM
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Watched the keynote, it's like a mini Mac OS X device!
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Jan 10 2007, 10:20 PM
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Bloody godlike. Definitely a must get.
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Jan 10 2007, 10:36 PM
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...but the 2MP camera location is abit odd. Don't you think?
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Jan 10 2007, 10:40 PM
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imgaine this:
6 months after spending a huge sum of money on the iphone, steve jobs announced: iPhone Mini! u'll cry hell coz urs is obsolete 3 months on the road, iPhone Nano micro... pico... and finally invisa (cues taken from an infamous slapstick ad from somewhere else) |
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Jan 10 2007, 10:42 PM
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QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 10 2007, 10:40 PM) imgaine this: Well I guess they have to plan well and not to loose so much productivity in a year. Well, I think Apple.Inc still needs a couple more months to redefine their final last touch on the iPhone still. Make it a 100% perfect and be ready to be ship into the market.6 months after spending a huge sum of money on the iphone, steve jobs announced: iPhone Mini! u'll cry hell coz urs is obsolete 3 months on the road, iPhone Nano micro... pico... and finally invisa (cues taken from an infamous slapstick ad from somewhere else) |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:09 PM
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There's always this saying though "Never buy a first generation Apple Product"
Keep reading it, for the macbook, for the ipod video. But wait and see then. |
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Jan 10 2007, 11:25 PM
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Cool Phone!
It's good for them to release later. Judging by Apple's track record of secrecy, I don't think Steve Job spilled all the beans of the capabilities of the Iphone. Besides, I still think its still on the development table as far as the software issues is concern. I did not see Steve demo ICal or IChat capabilites on the Iphone. Besides, they need a year in 2008 to work out with the telco provider in Asia should the want to partner with one... I would buy it when it hits Asia. By then it won't be 1st gen phone anymore... |
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QUOTE(Timber @ Jan 11 2007, 12:25 AM) Cool Phone! i dont think they will partner will asia specifically said malaysia telco.. just sell them as generic..It's good for them to release later. Judging by Apple's track record of secrecy, I don't think Steve Job spilled all the beans of the capabilities of the Iphone. Besides, I still think its still on the development table as far as the software issues is concern. I did not see Steve demo ICal or IChat capabilites on the Iphone. Besides, they need a year in 2008 to work out with the telco provider in Asia should the want to partner with one... I would buy it when it hits Asia. By then it won't be 1st gen phone anymore... |
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Jan 11 2007, 12:00 AM
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i would say that is the best music phone when it's available ,but it takes too long when it come to asia somewhere in 2008 ?? i guess sony and nokia could even create something suprise |
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM) actually i got turn off by ipods...nice look but sound quality crappy n pricy.. With what other MP3 player are u comparing it with? Are u comparing it with ur comp speaker? Or ur headphone(Headphone are almost always better than earphone)?and its pc os...not many application support it. but for usage wise...they r way way too over rated. yeah if it is better than pc so wat..u still cant play many game or unable install many many apps. it might end up like pc-mac war(which they clearly lost it)/window-mac support apps war(need to say much?) Pricy? Look at how thin it is. Look at the UI friendly os. Compare with other MP3 player. Imagine how much time u save by easily syncing ur iPod, compare with how ALL of Creative's MP3 player sync. WMP11, yucks *vomits* I can easily judge that u have never use a Mac in real life. Probably don't bother to. How many percentage of the world's computer users are high-end gamers? Less than 20%. Most people play Flash and arcade games, Mac can do those. Ask any girl what type of games they play. HL2? Generals? CS? Nope. Quantity doesn't mean quality. I would rather have 1 great software than have to install 1000 bad, crippled software with me n ending up with a crash-prone OS. Feel free to go to Download.com and waste ur time downloading 100 software just to find out that all of them suck. If Apple has lost the PC-Mac war, then why is Apple still alive and kicking Microsoft's balls? No one is lost until they got bought by others or go bankcrupt. Windows support apps? LOL, this is really funny. Are u saying that Windows win in the who-creates-more-problem-viruses-crashes contest? If so, i think Apple is glad that they lost the battle. It's amazing how Microsoft single-handedly create a billions dollar worth antivirus and security economy. Linux, Unix and even OS X COMBINED don't even have enough power to do that. QUOTE(enCORe @ Jan 10 2007, 02:25 PM) a Zune killer Zune was dead before he was born. The real iPod Killer? iPhone, duhQUOTE(wei @ Jan 10 2007, 02:39 PM) - Apple did say 2 years contract with Cingular. Does this mean no other way to get it besides signing up with the service provider? That's only for the US, not for the rest of the world. These are normal things in the US.- Contract??? oh my, meaning you can't get away from just "buying one". - Well, meaning the phone will be "lock" for the service provider only? Unlocking mean voiding warranty.... bad news (hell no waiting for 2008 to hit asia)QUOTE(karhoe @ Jan 10 2007, 04:13 PM) Bet DIGI and MAXIS will never do it DiGi will innovate anything to survive against the 2 giants. And Maxis n Celcom will retaliate. Why would anyone want to flash it to WM5? The selling point is the OS, not really the hardware.Just wondering, possible to flash to WM5 somehow? QUOTE(nagasie @ Jan 10 2007, 05:09 PM) omg!! I don't think u can put screen protector, i think.this thing is big!! need big screen protector! 2mp camera is sufficient already for handphone. want better quality, buy digicam. much better. QUOTE(suns8630 @ Jan 10 2007, 06:25 PM) i think the other "company" will have the "similiar" product Yeah, similar but sad, crippled, badly designed product. This thing is at least 1 years more advanced than anything in market. In US, they need to go through FCC approval which took a few months. BTW, iPhone is not 100% done yet. Expect more software when it is released.by then ... who knows that this will be "the thing of the past " QUOTE(lucifah @ Jan 10 2007, 06:57 PM) ho ho ho I don't think it's that much. Double price? $999? Who would buy such thing? Most likely around $599 for the 4GB one.it's $599 with 2-yr contract from cingular expect double price when not in contract This post has been edited by H4RRY: Jan 11 2007, 12:15 AM |
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Rather to have a 3G than 2MP cam, maybe i should wait for the 3G version of iPun.
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QUOTE(slumberus @ Jan 10 2007, 06:40 PM) oily face touching the smooth touchscreen. Attach a tissue to your ear with a double side tape. Lolz!!i can imagine myself wiping it everytime i take a call... shudder. |
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QUOTE(Humping^Panda @ Jan 10 2007, 12:15 PM) okie.. If you're not a long time user of both mac and PC, and a user of a PDA phone, you are not really qualified to comment. WinXP and MacOSX each have different advantages over each other. hope one day i got alot extra money to join the crowd(which i wont).actually i got turn off by ipods...nice look but sound quality crappy n pricy.. and its pc os...not many application support it. okie those ipod thingy/imac laptop i can give them the 9/10 for design..but for usage wise...they r way way too over rated. I think ppl buy MAC/apple just to be different bcoz they think tht can pay higher price and feel unique with tht design. maybe i m wrong..running OSx on pc might have the different experience with running it on the mobilephone.yeah if it is better than pc so wat..u still cant play many game or unable install many many apps. beside, i think iphone is a PDA type phone rite? it might end up like pc-mac war(which they clearly lost it)/window-mac support apps war(need to say much?). i wonder who will built more plugins/ extra application for the iphone. anyway, this is just my 2cent opinion...i might be wrong. well atleast i dont waste money also on such thing like this.hahaha who knw after i use the iphone i also like it...but no point to rush for such expensive thing.It's true that Apple lost the PC-Mac war, because Microsoft has a monopoly of 95% market share. But Apple's market positioning has always been Ease of Use. In this category, Apple is No. 1. In the iPhone's case, people will buy it because of physical esthetics and it's Ease of Use. It's not for everyone who need all kinds of apps on a phone. I have an O2 mini with lots of apps. But I still like to own an iPhone. The price is within the range of any Windows Mobile 5 PDA phone. Not overpriced at all. If you don't need PDA functions, then you don't need to rush for such expensive thing. |
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wah, superb design...2008, tat was too long, duno possible bit it from ebay, but can use in malaysia ma???
aiya, no need safe money la..nw onli 2007, stil a yr to go to 2008...in a yr, duno change hw many phone d la.... well, i think de design havent 100% finalize lo....jus wait n c...yeah!!!bye bye sony ericsson walkman phone!!!!!!!!!! |
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Minus the hefty price tag and late release date, I think this phone goes beyond everyone's expectation.
Remember those boring ipod-ish style pictures that have been published on the web in the past few months? This is rather much more innovative And yeah, will probably go for the second-gen instead depending on the feedback, no real rush in getting it as my K800 has 3G and a much better camera than this iPhone. I'm not comparing a SE Camera phone with a PDA smartphone, but I think I'm content with what I have now. Seems like it's pretty much the same as what I predicted eh? http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=327620 This post has been edited by samurai1337: Jan 11 2007, 07:59 AM |
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i like its super cool vertical-horizontal sensor....darn cool....senses its position 2 change into widescreen mode....n yea....n also its OS-X la.....of yea not 4 forget safari webbrowser...i heard it uses the same one as the computer....so shud hav packed loads of goodies inside....how i wish apple releases its safari for PC.....then i will say goodbye 2 firefox.....erm...zune?? wat zune??? hahahha
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A. I think if Apple's MINIMAL target is to convince more than 50% of EXISTING IPOD users to throw away their mobile and get IPhone, they can probably make quite a reasonable profit already...
B. Next is to target non-IPOD users who uses that handphone for calls/sms/some songs/pictures. These people probably dont think its worth to buy Ipod or cannot afford. But when they want to change their handphone, they will now think..why not pay a little bit more and get something new innovative? So, got potential profit here again. C. Hardcore Mac users who dont carry PDA but got handphone. Now with this Iphone, they are probably drooling at ability to sync PIMS, Emails, Itunes, etc and BEST OF ALL, can still makes calls. And what if the IPhone can really be expanded to carry more software? Another potential profit here... D. Hardcore Palm, Berries, WM05 users. this is the hardest group to convince. they need and live with all the 3rd party softwares....and i dont think Iphone will satisfy them... but does Apple really need D to survive? for me simple only. If Jack Bauer uses Iphone in season 6, then book me one now!!! heheheheheh This post has been edited by nando: Jan 11 2007, 09:45 AM |
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Jan 11 2007, 09:54 AM
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Jan 11 2007, 10:43 AM
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QUOTE(apisgogo @ Jan 11 2007, 09:54 AM) Apple should have called it the MacinPhone, since it really is a MacOS in a phone, not an iPod OS in a phone.This post has been edited by Bernard Yeo: Jan 11 2007, 10:44 AM |
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Jan 11 2007, 10:57 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 10 2007, 11:55 AM) advantages over 3G? Currently 3G is ussing a technic call W-CDMA which has far higher bandwitdh transmission compare to CDMA2000. While WiMax is using a totaly different infrastructure, think of it as WiFi with much more wider range. U can learn more about CDMA by grabbing any basic networking book. WiMAX could be the 4G (fourth generation) of the communication system.. Anyway i think one of the key feature in this iPhone is its user interface. Doesnt matter if it uses EDGE or 3G if you have a lousy interface even with superb features pack into it, you will have a hard time learning how to send a simple sms out. Just need to look at the click wheel, even my low tech sister dont need me to teach her how to use the ipod. |
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Jan 11 2007, 11:23 AM
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imagine this... 1 month after iPhone hits the market... watch out for the Made in China 'aiPhone' that's totally identical, very much cheaper but comes with 256 & 512MB memory variant.
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Jan 11 2007, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 11 2007, 11:23 AM) imagine this... 1 month after iPhone hits the market... watch out for the Made in China 'aiPhone' that's totally identical, very much cheaper but comes with 256 & 512MB memory variant. yaya is true. they use to be a copy cat and they can copy exactly 100% 'looked alike' i phone but in terms of functionality i am doubt of it. mac will be mac. iphone will be iphone nth can change that. but not sure what OS though. |
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Jan 11 2007, 11:45 AM
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cisco sued apple over iphone ....????!!!!
aisay .... what a world of business .... sometimes can be the greatest joke of the year ... for what you know : steven job is now having coffee with the chairman of cisco .. over the this new product ... !!! this is call "publicity" .... apple need the ... " heat" and cisco need the " simpathay" if the keynote is attended by approx 400o people ... you think all people are that dumb |
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Jan 11 2007, 01:51 PM
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any idea if they will come up with a 3G model ?
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Jan 11 2007, 02:12 PM
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i drool upon this phone...
it's indeed a revolutionary gadget... one of the feature i like is the "slide to unlock" ngek ngek ngek... i want i want!~!! |
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Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM
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Made for its own kind
I believe iPhone did not live to the Phone Industry standards. Its a GREAT device, trust me... I'm loving it... However, they fail to realize that it is a phone. Thus the iPhone is more of a 'Media Player' such as a Internet Browser and Music/Photos/Video Player. So its a Media Player built-in phone. With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation. Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc). I am not to worry about this, with an OS X in a phone, all this can be upgraded with future firmware or installation. Thus this applies to my statement of iPhone being a more of a Media Player/iPod built-in phone, than a Phone built-in Media Player/iPod. From a statement from Mr Steve Jobs, "a phone at least 5 years ahead of the current phones," I agree in terms of software and OS only.. that is far as it goes. Whereas hardware wise, I can sadly say, they are atleast 5 years behind time. Without 3G and Internal VGA camera, Video Calls (iChat) is out of the picture. For security, they can implement Face Recognition which my phone already have... which i bought nearly a year ago at 05, so that too is out of the picture. Interesting enough, Mr Steve Jobs did not even showed us a demo of how the 2MP camera works, yes maybe what he is holding is still a prototype, but since when does he hold and presents a prototype one might asked. Why? Not a good idea, because it may not be as good as the already high-end phones such Nokia Carl-Zeiss or SonyEriccson Cyber Shot phones?? Wait.. no Optical Zoom, for a phone that is 5 years ahead of its time? From the back, its just a tiny pin hole for a 2MP camera... the only pin hole camera size that can be that small and fit into a slim body is a VGA camera, that now is mainly found in the internal camera of a 3G phone that can be use as Video Calls. How can that be a 2MP camera?? Upscaled?? Still on the statement made by Mr Steve Jobs, such security mention above are not made for the iPhone, another security might be a finger print recognition that is already out in the market in Japan.. yes its a phone but he also did mention 5 years of its time.. maybe a software can be made for one to place its thumb on the Multi-Touch screen.. thats another Patent for you Mr Steve Jobs to add on the 200 Patents you already made on iPhone. With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new kind of phone. Its an iPhone. |
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Jan 11 2007, 03:32 PM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 11 2007, 11:23 AM) imagine this... 1 month after iPhone hits the market... watch out for the Made in China 'aiPhone' that's totally identical, very much cheaper but comes with 256 & 512MB memory variant. Dude, there already is one. It's black and looks like an iPod nano. Mostly looks like sh*t la. But it was over at IPMart.com. I captured the screen and sent an email to Steve @ Apple before MacWorld. No reply though. The site seemed to have removed the link though, so good luck finding it. They branded it Apple iPhone, and sometimes with an 'l' at the end of iPhone. Prolly to keep Apple lawyers from suing. but not sure what OS though.Heh. China is such a crappy, unoriginal place. They copy, mass market and sell things cheaply. But that's basically it, cheap and crap. Sorry for the rant. |
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Jan 11 2007, 03:39 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM) Made for its own kind That's quite an insightful comment shaznizzle. I share the same feelings. Where software and user interface is concerned, it's miles ahead of the competition, but where actual phone hardware and features, there are a lot of deficiencies. A Sony Ericsson would seriously kick the iPhone's ass (with buttons and all!). Having said that, it is still a cool phone/mediaplayer hybrid. And knowing Apple, this is only the beginning. Expect the next 6-12 months to be VERY VERY interesting.I believe iPhone did not live to the Phone Industry standards. Its a GREAT device, trust me... I'm loving it... However, they fail to realize that it is a phone. Thus the iPhone is more of a 'Media Player' such as a Internet Browser and Music/Photos/Video Player. So its a Media Player built-in phone. With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation. Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc). I am not to worry about this, with an OS X in a phone, all this can be upgraded with future firmware or installation. Thus this applies to my statement of iPhone being a more of a Media Player/iPod built-in phone, than a Phone built-in Media Player/iPod. From a statement from Mr Steve Jobs, "a phone at least 5 years ahead of the current phones," I agree in terms of software and OS only.. that is far as it goes. Whereas hardware wise, I can sadly say, they are atleast 5 years behind time. Without 3G and Internal VGA camera, Video Calls (iChat) is out of the picture. For security, they can implement Face Recognition which my phone already have... which i bought nearly a year ago at 05, so that too is out of the picture. Interesting enough, Mr Steve Jobs did not even showed us a demo of how the 2MP camera works, yes maybe what he is holding is still a prototype, but since when does he hold and presents a prototype one might asked. Why? Not a good idea, because it may not be as good as the already high-end phones such Nokia Carl-Zeiss or SonyEriccson Cyber Shot phones?? Wait.. no Optical Zoom, for a phone that is 5 years ahead of its time? From the back, its just a tiny pin hole for a 2MP camera... the only pin hole camera size that can be that small and fit into a slim body is a VGA camera, that now is mainly found in the internal camera of a 3G phone that can be use as Video Calls. How can that be a 2MP camera?? Upscaled?? Still on the statement made by Mr Steve Jobs, such security mention above are not made for the iPhone, another security might be a finger print recognition that is already out in the market in Japan.. yes its a phone but he also did mention 5 years of its time.. maybe a software can be made for one to place its thumb on the Multi-Touch screen.. thats another Patent for you Mr Steve Jobs to add on the 200 Patents you already made on iPhone. With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new kind of phone. Its an iPhone. |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM) Made for its own kind I think Apple knows all these. I believe iPhone did not live to the Phone Industry standards. Its a GREAT device, trust me... I'm loving it... However, they fail to realize that it is a phone. Thus the iPhone is more of a 'Media Player' such as a Internet Browser and Music/Photos/Video Player. So its a Media Player built-in phone. With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation. Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc). I am not to worry about this, with an OS X in a phone, all this can be upgraded with future firmware or installation. Thus this applies to my statement of iPhone being a more of a Media Player/iPod built-in phone, than a Phone built-in Media Player/iPod. From a statement from Mr Steve Jobs, "a phone at least 5 years ahead of the current phones," I agree in terms of software and OS only.. that is far as it goes. Whereas hardware wise, I can sadly say, they are atleast 5 years behind time. Without 3G and Internal VGA camera, Video Calls (iChat) is out of the picture. For security, they can implement Face Recognition which my phone already have... which i bought nearly a year ago at 05, so that too is out of the picture. Interesting enough, Mr Steve Jobs did not even showed us a demo of how the 2MP camera works, yes maybe what he is holding is still a prototype, but since when does he hold and presents a prototype one might asked. Why? Not a good idea, because it may not be as good as the already high-end phones such Nokia Carl-Zeiss or SonyEriccson Cyber Shot phones?? Wait.. no Optical Zoom, for a phone that is 5 years ahead of its time? From the back, its just a tiny pin hole for a 2MP camera... the only pin hole camera size that can be that small and fit into a slim body is a VGA camera, that now is mainly found in the internal camera of a 3G phone that can be use as Video Calls. How can that be a 2MP camera?? Upscaled?? Still on the statement made by Mr Steve Jobs, such security mention above are not made for the iPhone, another security might be a finger print recognition that is already out in the market in Japan.. yes its a phone but he also did mention 5 years of its time.. maybe a software can be made for one to place its thumb on the Multi-Touch screen.. thats another Patent for you Mr Steve Jobs to add on the 200 Patents you already made on iPhone. With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new kind of phone. Its an iPhone. They made a mistake once with the Newton (and it was way ahead of it's time in terms of technological features). Erm... Phone industry standards? From what I see, Apple surpass many 'industry standards' and of course left out several features. 3G? How many people are actually using 3G at this moment? With it just being rolled out (in several locations in KL and Malaysia) and with WiMAX (and what was it? HSDPA?) in the horizon, 3G seems like it's gonna fade away fast. Plus, 3G isn't really popular over there in the States right? It's all marketing purpose, why bother adding something like 3G in your phone knowing well, that it would only incur extra cost and a lot of folks won't even really be able to use it. While I think EDGE sucks (slow man... haha), I also believe that Apple omitted 3G for a very good reason. Handwriting recognition? What on earth for? The iPhone doesn't come with a stylus (thank God!! I hate the stylus!) so it doesn't need handwriting recognition. External memory? Ermm.. it comes with 4GB and 8GB (for now), most other mobile devices have Bluetooth so most folks would probably use BT to transfer files and backup their data on their computer instead of a external memory like SD, MMC, etc which is also a waste of money and IMHO, adding that memory reader into the iPhone really serves no purpose. It doesn't come with a camera on the front. That's what I dislike about it. I guess Apple wants to put that in with the next upgrade (2nd gen) so that folks would upgrade. Yet, another marketing strategy. I'll have to go with them if I was working for Apple. You need to keep a few 'upgrades' up your sleeve to keep folks coming back to you. I guess with that, comes 'face recognition' though I've no idea what good that would do. Fingerprint recognition, adding scanning features on the screen again, adds to cost... personally, I wouldn't even wanna get a device/gadget that uses fingerprint recognition for security. I think I need not explain why. Might as well add a camera upfront that does retinal scans? Would that make you happy? hehe Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc)? Ermmm... that would have to come from software developers now, won't it? I only hope open source developers really release something ground breaking so that we don't have to rely on 'Microsoft Office for iPhone'. hehe Is it a GREAT device. At first look, I wasn't impressed but when I watched the keynote, I was impressed and then now after re-looking at it, I'm really not that impressed. Maybe it's because our infrastructure here doesn't really allow us to fully utilise the capabilities of the iPhone, making it just another expensive toy. |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM) With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation. Not everyone uses GPS. It should be coming but dude, this is the first version, what do u expect? With 4GB of flash, why they hell would anyone want memory cards that will make it thicker? And when Apple say that it's a 2MP, it is one. No upscaling.Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc) With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new kind of phone. Its an iPhone. The Safari is a full web browser. Chances are that it can play Java/Flash games. There's plenty of stuff that u mentioned, but how many of those cellphones does everything good. I've tried those high-end phones n their UI is hard to use, their feature is confusing. Don't judge how good a camera is by the megapixel hype. Cause my 3MP Canon can beat a hell lot of 5MP cameras. Uuu, look, i got a Nokia with Carl-Zeiss lens. Bullshit, for all u know they just sign agreement to use Carl-Zeiss name. Show me some photos, then decide. I don't blindly eat all those marketing hype after being scammed by Sony E anymore. It's about time someone scare the big players to give something that users want. If they can't even make loading the contacts fast enough, don't bother showing me the music player. Have fun waiting 3 sec just to load ur contacts. |
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Jan 11 2007, 04:42 PM
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FREE Iphone at http://iphonecountdown.com/iphone_readymech.pdf . Get it now
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Jan 11 2007, 04:54 PM
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I think Apple knows all these.
They made a mistake once with the Newton (and it was way ahead of it's time in terms of technological features). Erm... Phone industry standards? From what I see, Apple surpass many 'industry standards' and of course left out several features.(Many?? Many?? Its mainly just the OS and a cool Multi-Touch thats it.) 3G? How many people are actually using 3G at this moment? With it just being rolled out (in several locations in KL and Malaysia) and with WiMAX (and what was it? HSDPA?) in the horizon, 3G seems like it's gonna fade away fast. Plus, 3G isn't really popular over there in the States right? It's all marketing purpose, why bother adding something like 3G in your phone knowing well, that it would only incur extra cost and a lot of folks won't even really be able to use it. (We're taling about people who can afford to buy a US$599 phone here?? Your like saying, a guy buys a PS3 but cant afford the games.... lol) While I think EDGE sucks (slow man... haha), I also believe that Apple omitted 3G for a very good reason.(3G is slow or not regardless, it is a High-End phone. Thus it should be a standard.. like it or not it is a bonus. What I realise that they didnt implement 3G is due to, no front camera.. thus no video calls means no need for 3G) Handwriting recognition? What on earth for? The iPhone doesn't come with a stylus (thank God!! I hate the stylus!) so it doesn't need handwriting recognition (You can write it with your fingers, do you know how small the QWERTY keys are?? Pls visit http://www.apple.com/iphone/ right there in the 1st page you'll see an actual size of the iPhone.. try placing your thumb there.. the keys are small.. thats why you see Mr Steve Jobs typing with his index finger 1 by 1). External memory? Ermm.. it comes with 4GB and 8GB (for now), most other mobile devices have Bluetooth so most folks would probably use BT to transfer files and backup their data on their computer instead of a external memory like SD, MMC, etc which is also a waste of money and IMHO, adding that memory reader into the iPhone really serves no purpose.(You fail to realise, it will be faster and easier to transfer a whole loads of pictures and files to a computer easily with a external memory, regardless of the device having a 20GB HDD built in, No iTunes, No iPhone dock needed, means no fuss.. what happens when your using your friend's or the sch's pc?? No hope of transfering at all.. unless you bring your iPhone dock where ever you go and installing iTunes in every PC you use.. hhmmmm. I have a phone, but I do know for one thing for sure most user transfer their files using the external memory card.. or the universal USB drive. I dont think user transfer their 40-50 pictures using Bluetooth.) It doesn't come with a camera on the front. That's what I dislike about it. I guess Apple wants to put that in with the next upgrade (2nd gen) so that folks would upgrade. Yet, another marketing strategy. I'll have to go with them if I was working for Apple. You need to keep a few 'upgrades' up your sleeve to keep folks coming back to you. (5 years of its time?? what next iPhone 2 comes with a front camera and he will say this is a phone 5 years ahead of its time, by then Nokia has HD camera equip in their Nseries) I guess with that, comes 'face recognition' though I've no idea what good that would do. Fingerprint recognition, adding scanning features on the screen again, adds to cost... personally, I wouldn't even wanna get a device/gadget that uses fingerprint recognition for security. (Trust me, in this world we're living right now, the best possible security is the best way to go)I think I need not explain why. Might as well add a camera upfront that does retinal scans? Would that make you happy? hehe (Possible, he did mention "5 years ahead of its time") Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc)? Ermmm... that would have to come from software developers now, won't it? I only hope open source developers really release something ground breaking so that we don't have to rely on 'Microsoft Office for iPhone'. hehe (I did mention, its not a issue at all, they can be installed or upgrade with future firmware) Is it a GREAT device. At first look, I wasn't impressed but when I watched the keynote, I was impressed and then now after re-looking at it, I'm really not that impressed. Maybe it's because our infrastructure here doesn't really allow us to fully utilise the capabilities of the iPhone, making it just another expensive toy. (I think we do have the infrastructure, in terms of 3G. I have a 3G phone which I use Maxis 3G line, but how many do have a 3G line.. but have a 3G phone..?? Its all about, are we willing to spend, on what we have spent) |
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Jan 11 2007, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(crash @ Jan 11 2007, 03:39 PM) That's quite an insightful comment shaznizzle. I share the same feelings. Where software and user interface is concerned, it's miles ahead of the competition, but where actual phone hardware and features, there are a lot of deficiencies. A Sony Ericsson would seriously kick the iPhone's ass (with buttons and all!). Having said that, it is still a cool phone/mediaplayer hybrid. And knowing Apple, this is only the beginning. Expect the next 6-12 months to be VERY VERY interesting. Yup I agree.. its all software for this phone. I believe they realised.. thats what they are all about... and thats not enough to take on the competition. So they added some cool hardware, like directional sensors, light sensor and multi-touch. Which I think was the highlight of the phone that can back it up to level with competitors, which is cool by me. |
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Jan 11 2007, 05:13 PM
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Not everyone uses GPS.(Majority does in the U.S and Japan) It should be coming but dude, this is the first version, what do u expect? (Yeap I agree, than the statement, 5 years of its time should not be made) With 4GB of flash, why they hell would anyone want memory cards that will make it thicker?(Thicker?? lol) And when Apple say that it's a 2MP, it is one. No upscaling. (I will be pissed if they did not)
The Safari is a full web browser. Chances are that it can play Java/Flash games. (Yup, if they didnt, it can be installed or upgrade with firmware. I did mention that) There's plenty of stuff that u mentioned, but how many of those cellphones does everything good. I've tried those high-end phones n their UI is hard to use, their feature is confusing. Don't judge how good a camera is by the megapixel hype. Cause my 3MP Canon can beat a hell lot of 5MP cameras. Uuu, look, i got a Nokia with Carl-Zeiss lens. Bullshit, for all u know they just sign agreement to use Carl-Zeiss name. (Yup true, Nokia Carl-Zeiss is a gimmick. Now Imagine Apple very new to the industry.. and yet alone their 1st product to have a camera... a 2MP camera... man I wonder how that camera works.. my guess is the same as yours) Show me some photos, then decide. I don't blindly eat all those marketing hype after being scammed by Sony E anymore. It's about time someone scare the big players to give something that users want. If they can't even make loading the contacts fast enough, don't bother showing me the music player. (Yup its about time, time will tell....) Have fun waiting 3 sec just to load ur contacts. |
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Jan 11 2007, 05:21 PM
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Sorry guys, I just got mine. Don't jeles-jeles!
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Jan 11 2007, 05:22 PM
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great phone with great design and concept.
i like the idea of multi-touch and no stylus just wondering, if apple lose, whats the name will be? iPwned? no fuzz over the name, i still want it |
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Jan 11 2007, 05:25 PM
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no more iphone Apple Is Sued By Cisco Over IPhone Name After Negotiations Fail By Ari Levy and Susan Decker Jan. 11 (Bloomberg) -- Apple Inc. was sued by Cisco Systems Inc. over its new iPhone a day after Chief Executive Officer Steve Jobs introduced the device to fanfare in San Francisco. Cisco sued Apple yesterday in U.S. District Court in San Francisco, alleging use of the name violates its trademark. The lawsuit was filed after talks to share the iPhone name ended, San Jose, California-based Cisco said in a statement. Apple, maker of the iPod music player, failed to reach an agreement with Cisco on use of the name after five years of talks and chose to go ahead with the iPhone announcement this week. The move surprised trademark lawyers who said it's rare for a company to introduce a product without rights to the name. ``This is a gutsy move by Apple,'' said William Heller of McCarter & English in Newark, New Jersey. ``I wouldn't handicap this race just yet. There are lots of arguments on both sides.'' Apple took steps to register iPhone under a fake company name even as it continued talks with Cisco, court papers said. Cisco, the world's largest maker of networking equipment, asked the court to block Apple from using the iPhone name. Cisco said a company called Ocean Telecom Services LLC filed an application with the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office for the name in September. Apple filed an application for the iPhone name in Australia. Both applications cite a third filing in Trinidad and Tobago as being connected, Cisco said. The U.S. application ``is being held up'' because of the Cisco trademark, Cisco said. Plan B Ocean Telecom appears to be ``either Apple directly or a company that is doing it for Apple,'' said Allonn E. Levy, a trademark lawyer at Hopkins & Carley in San Jose, California. ``I can see where Apple says, `Negotiations aren't going so well; we'd better have a Plan B.''' Shares of Cupertino, California-based Apple rose $4.43 to $97 yesterday in Nasdaq Stock Market composite trading. Cisco gained 21 cents to $28.68. The suit was filed after the close of regular trading in the U.S. Apple spokesman Steve Dowling said yesterday there's a difference between cordless phones marketed by Cisco's Linksys division and the cell phone Apple introduced two days ago. ``We are the first company to use the name iPhone for a cell phone, and if Cisco wants to challenge us on it we are very confident we will prevail,'' Dowling said in an interview. That position is ``not consistent with the discussions we've had for several years,'' Cisco General Counsel Mark Chandler said yesterday in an interview. ``Apple approached us numerous times starting in 2001 regarding use of the iPhone name.'' Negotiations As recently as Jan. 9, Cisco said it expected Apple to sign an agreement under which the two would share the iPhone name. Cisco said it was unwilling to cede full rights to the name and couldn't agree on terms that would let Apple proceed. Cisco has owned the iPhone trademark for six years. It bought the name as part of a 2000 purchase of InfoGear Technology Corp. and in January began selling a line of Internet-based cordless phones called iPhones. Other companies have tried to trademark the iPhone name. The Trademark Office has issued a non-final rejection to Teledex LLC, a San Jose company that makes telephones for hotels, on the ``likelihood of confusion'' with the Cisco name, according to the trademark office's Web site. Apple contends Cisco's right to the name is tenuous, and that other companies use the iPhone name for cordless phones. The company also is likely to argue the mark is ``weak'' because it hasn't been used continuously since registered in 1999, trademark lawyers said. Apple also may claim its iPod, iBook computer and iTunes Web site have popularized the use of products starting with ``I.'' The case is Cisco Systems Inc. v. Apple Inc., 07-198, U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. To contact the reporters on this story: Ari Levy in Las Vegas at alevy5@bloomberg.net ; Susan Decker in Washington at sdecker1@bloomberg.net . Last Updated: January 11, 2007 00:10 EST source |
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Many? Yes, many. If you were to look at the OS itself, it goes to show the many features surpasses industry standards. USD599 converted to RM would be about RM2500 or more? That doesn't make it a 'High End' phone now does it? A high end phone would be those that cost RM3500 or so and I guess you should know which models they are. Yes, I am saying that a guy who spends RM3K on a PS3 might not be able to afford Original games. Another thing is attitude of people. I dare say only 20% (or less) people who own a 3G phone actually even use 3G. Just as the number of people who own a Bluetooth enabled handphone use Bluetooth headsets. Again, I'd stressed that the iPhone isn't a high-end phone. It's price for one doesn't make it one.
Oh, but I do reaslise it. I admit that I sometimes do use the SD card to transfer photos and files from my PDA phone to my PC and Mac but how often do I do it? Eermm... Once a blue moon. Again, I wouldn't bother with handwriting recognition, now with such a small screen. "No iTunes, No iPhone dock needed, means no fuss"? That's exactly what Apple doesn't want you to do. If Apple released something that doesn't uses it's applications, then they'd be shooting themselves in the foot. I guess if you knew a thing or two about business (not that I know any), you'd see why things are they way they are. Sharing and pirating music and movies is what Apple is trying to discourage, others are simply collateral damage. While I'm not like you who would want to keep and transfer 40-50 photos to others, I really wouldn't understand where you're coming from. Yea, so the Nokia N series has 2 cameras. I know that even SE has a rotating camera in one of the flip phones for video conferencing even before the N series came out. The thing is that is it even used? If you have one, would you be using it at this time? The only people I see using it are the promoters from Maxis. Trust me, in this time and age and in this world we're living now, you wouldn't want fingerprint recognition, eventhough it 'seems' like the best way to go. Heck! I wouldn't want retinal scans either... our 3G infrastructure is still in its infancy if you asked me. It should be how many 3G phone users actually even use 3G? Then again, look at it from the US. How many users in the US that owns a 3G phone actually uses 3G? I believe Steve Jobs knows that. |
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Jan 11 2007, 05:38 PM
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ei, everyone plz calm down le....is jus bout a coming soon stuff.....
jus hav peace of mind and enjoy it...come on man....relax....... |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:06 PM
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@crash
WOW!! you beat me to it... but mine works.. in June I hope.. hehe @azxel Be in mind its priced at a 2 years contact. its high-end. Yes I've used the 1st SE 3G phone its the Z800 with the rotating camera you mentioned. I think it all depends, if your just a phone user just get yourself a phone. But if your a true phone user, like Mr Steve Jobs said, "Its having your life in the phone" than he should be well aware of some security.. Dude I have a Sharp 903, I can guarantee its the best 3.2MP camera on a phone right now..  . 1 picture is just below 1MB, and I cannot stand and wait to transfer it via Bluetooth. Slide it in the SD slot, highlight the the whole pictures, Drag and Drop.. how convenient. Yes I'm a heavy phone user, 3G, Calls, SMS, Pictures, Videos.. thats why I dont mind investing my $$$$ on a phone.. same goes to the iPhone. You must realize that I stress on what Mr Steve Jobs said and how over-rated a phone can be... @iPhone name issue Apple is a target... they somehow always lost in this court case.. so whats will it be? iFone? iPP (iPod Phone)? iPone? iCall? This post has been edited by shaznizzle: Jan 11 2007, 06:07 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:22 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 06:06 PM) @crash italk perhaps?? then kena sue by our malaysia company...and they get rich by leetching from Apple Corp... haha WOW!! you beat me to it... but mine works.. in June I hope.. hehe @azxel Be in mind its priced at a 2 years contact. its high-end. Yes I've used the 1st SE 3G phone its the Z800 with the rotating camera you mentioned. I think it all depends, if your just a phone user just get yourself a phone. But if your a true phone user, like Mr Steve Jobs said, "Its having your life in the phone" than he should be well aware of some security.. Dude I have a Sharp 903, I can guarantee its the best 3.2MP camera on a phone right now.. . 1 picture is just below 1MB, and I cannot stand and wait to transfer it via Bluetooth. Slide it in the SD slot, highlight the the whole pictures, Drag and Drop.. how convenient. Yes I'm a heavy phone user, 3G, Calls, SMS, Pictures, Videos.. thats why I dont mind investing my $$$$ on a phone.. same goes to the iPhone. You must realize that I stress on what Mr Steve Jobs said and how over-rated a phone can be... @iPhone name issue Apple is a target... they somehow always lost in this court case.. so whats will it be? iFone? iPP (iPod Phone)? iPone? iCall? This post has been edited by shortleg88: Jan 11 2007, 06:23 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:24 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 06:06 PM) Apple is a target... they somehow always lost in this court case.. so whats will it be? ApplePhone perhaps?iFone? iPP (iPod Phone)? iPone? iCall? |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:27 PM
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iCell?
@shaznizzle, i strongly agree with you on the transfer data part. What if let say the OS crash itself? How? ALL your DATA gone.. Just like that |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:37 PM
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Wow crash, nice 'iPhone'
What's there to fear with a crash? Just sync when you get home and you have all your contacts back again. Same deal with smartphones if you perform a hard reset. |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(allvin @ Jan 11 2007, 06:27 PM) @shaznizzle, i strongly agree with you on the transfer data part. What if let say the OS crash itself? How? ALL your DATA gone.. Just like that The iPhone is synced and charged just like the iPod. Meaning, if the OS on your iPhone crashed, after you reflash it or whatever, when you dock it, it will sync back all your data back on the phone from your computer. |
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Jan 11 2007, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE(allvin @ Jan 11 2007, 06:27 PM) iCell? Yea I agree.... what happens if that happened.. my oh my... phone HDD corrupted and such.. But its rare for a Mac to crash these days.. hopefully the phone does not over heat and moo like the issues macbook did. lol @shaznizzle, i strongly agree with you on the transfer data part. What if let say the OS crash itself? How? ALL your DATA gone.. Just like that Its a good thing the iPhone sync with the PC/Mac everytime its back on the dock. Oh yea... another note.. the "2MP" camera is useless at night... no flash not even a LED light... Just dont think highly on the 2MP I think its a downer. How about.... AkuPhone??!! lol. iV (iVoice)?? iPwned??!! lol... This post has been edited by shaznizzle: Jan 11 2007, 06:48 PM |
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Jan 11 2007, 07:03 PM
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I'm sure Cisco and Apple will work something out. They won't be at each other's throats for long.
Understand that most people don't purchase phones for their cameras, though. The iPhone is years ahead of its time in terms of its interface. Take a look at this article - it'll make you a believer. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...75410-1,00.html |
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Jan 11 2007, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE(yetieater @ Jan 11 2007, 07:03 PM) I'm sure Cisco and Apple will work something out. They won't be at each other's throats for long. yalo, the camera jus work as add in features...Understand that most people don't purchase phones for their cameras, though. The iPhone is years ahead of its time in terms of its interface. Take a look at this article - it'll make you a believer. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...75410-1,00.html |
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Jan 11 2007, 10:12 PM
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There was speculation before the iPhone came out that it would be called iMobile due to the publicised Cisco iPhone product release.
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Jan 11 2007, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(crash @ Jan 11 2007, 11:12 PM) There was speculation before the iPhone came out that it would be called iMobile due to the publicised Cisco iPhone product release. iMobile sounds better for me. iPhone sounds like our house telephone.. |
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Jan 11 2007, 10:49 PM
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iMobile used by others already wor
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Jan 11 2007, 11:16 PM
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So I guess the only reason to get the iPhone now is for its looks. And of course, as a fan of Apple. But its really tempting.
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Jan 12 2007, 12:14 AM
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Yeah the iPhone is tempting, the technology is far ahead than its rival, but I wonder how long its lifespan will be, since the battery is build-in/UNREPLACEABLE. 5 hours of talk/browsing/email or 16 hours audio playbacks. Looks like we gotto have one charger on the desk at work, one in the car, one in the bedside table. Those who using iPod know that batteries age pretty quickly. Once the battery is Kaput, you gotta throw it la and for 2MP camera- by 2008 its already outdated la.
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Jan 12 2007, 12:22 AM
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iPhone - say no more to long fingernails!
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Jan 12 2007, 12:35 AM
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I will grab this at any cost !!!
I can't wait no longer to see this available in Malaysia ! |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:38 AM
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QUOTE(76radius @ Jan 12 2007, 12:14 AM) Yeah the iPhone is tempting, the technology is far ahead than its rival, but I wonder how long its lifespan will be, since the battery is build-in/UNREPLACEABLE. 5 hours of talk/browsing/email or 16 hours audio playbacks. Looks like we gotto have one charger on the desk at work, one in the car, one in the bedside table. Those who using iPod know that batteries age pretty quickly. Once the battery is Kaput, you gotta throw it la and for 2MP camera- by 2008 its already outdated la. Though we have 3.2 megapixels cam phone, i don't think everybody can full utilize it.What a waste!!!!!. I am quite satisfied with my w810i phone 2 megapixels and most of the time i wont take picuter at 2 mega pixels. Battery has it own lifespan. It doesn't mean Iphone battery lifespan will be the same as Ipod. |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE(Sandwich2U @ Jan 12 2007, 01:38 AM) Though we have 3.2 megapixels cam phone, i don't think everybody can full utilize it. You got the point for the camera, but I don't quite agree with the battery. Been using PowerBook & few model of Ipods, I would say the battery life is shorter contradict to the hype as claimed by Apple. Imagine with the Bluetooth and Wifi for the iPhone - tis is indeed a power hungry device ..huh within 2 years I wonder whether anybody want it if u trade-in.I am quite satisfied with my w810i phone 2 megapixels and most of the time i wont take picuter at 2 mega pixels. Battery has it own lifespan. It doesn't mean Iphone battery lifespan will be the same as Ipod. This post has been edited by 76radius: Jan 12 2007, 12:53 AM |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:52 AM
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Soo.. kewl n yet beautiful! I want one ! I want one! But yet there will be the 3G version later oso rite?
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Jan 12 2007, 01:08 AM
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actually i like the all the other features of the iphone...
mac OS X multi touch screen and the size is thinner than any close competitor... but there is only one complain... the battery... i think that's the only turn off for now... as others... i love it! QUOTE(76radius @ Jan 12 2007, 12:47 AM) You got the point for the camera, but I don't quite agree with the battery. Been using PowerBook & few model of Ipods, I would say the battery life is shorter contradict to the hype as claimed by Apple. Imagine with the Bluetooth and Wifi for the iPhone - tis is indeed a power hungry device ..huh within 2 years I wonder whether anybody want it if u trade-in. yeap... i agree wif u... i am sending in my ipod for warranty claims this weekend.. as my battery only lasted me for max 6 hours after fully charge it! this is my 2nd claim in 1 and half years! |
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Jan 12 2007, 02:24 AM
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I wonder how the screen works.. after all that touch, the screen will definitely be smudge with prints and stuff.. and how much pressure must be applied, is normal too much pressure?? With all this touching, I am more worry of the screen wearing off than the battery.
Read at a website, where a guy did a hands on small review of the phone. The phone works, coz he called his mom using it. When touching the screen, he says it feels rubbery than the normal plastic like touch screen found in PDAs.. |
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Jan 12 2007, 08:00 AM
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the phone is really really nice, has neat features, Apple just did it again!
now i'm torn between buying this or Nintendo's Wii, lol, since my phone is in a pretty bad condition as it is. the only grunt i have is that it doesnt support 3G and no video calls i hope they will add 3G support and a 2nd cam for video calls in later versions.sigh too bad it wont be available until June >.< |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:39 AM
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http://events.apple.com.edgesuite.net/j47d52oo/event/
clip from Macworld Jobb's keynote where he introduced & showed what Iphone is capable of. |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:51 AM
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any idea of built in Stereo Speaker ???
inside got or not ? |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:59 AM
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the screen will be the first to go if you ask me... either that or it won't be as sensitive as it should be once those screen protectors come on.
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Jan 12 2007, 10:39 AM
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Jan 12 2007, 11:17 AM
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QUOTE(sauying @ Jan 12 2007, 09:51 AM) any idea of built in Stereo Speaker ??? The speakers are located at the bottom, side by side with the dock connector. The iPhone comes with an Apple bluetooth headset if I am not mistaken. Looks a lot like a Sony one.inside got or not ? |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE(crash @ Jan 12 2007, 12:17 PM) The speakers are located at the bottom, side by side with the dock connector. The iPhone comes with an Apple bluetooth headset if I am not mistaken. Looks a lot like a Sony one. I don't think so. Sure comes with wired-headset. Bluetooth headset sure need money 1..  |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:19 PM
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hi allvin,
check the iPhone specs... i think it does |
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Jan 12 2007, 12:52 PM
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Cool stuff eh? Looking good. So-so specs tho.
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Jan 12 2007, 05:41 PM
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My iPhone 903!!!
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Jan 12 2007, 06:07 PM
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That's a nice skin/theme/wallie, how did you do that?
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Jan 12 2007, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 12 2007, 07:07 PM) That's a nice skin/theme/wallie, how did you do that? i dont think that is a skin.. just get a pic of iphone menu only and full display it on ur phone |
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Jan 12 2007, 06:30 PM
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 wah lau... like that also can ar ??? how u do it wei ? comeshare with us. if like that i also want to get 1 leh. |
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Jan 12 2007, 06:41 PM
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haha... its just a fullscreen wallpaper. Thats a Sharp 903, the body looks like the iPhone.. smack it with OS X menu.. u got ur phone feeling 5 years ahead of its time. lol
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Jan 12 2007, 08:12 PM
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Lol!!! Finally!!!
Waited for so long for dis.. It wont be a problem in syncronising my data!! |
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Jan 12 2007, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE Cingular Ties, Several More iPhone Models? And More Details... PCMag, MobileBurn, and TelephonyOnline reported on comments on the Apple iPhone from Glenn Lurie, Cingular's president of national distribution. Cingular, of course, is the exclusive provider for the Apple iPhone in the U.S. and this deal has been said to last until 2009. As part of the branding, the "Cingular" word will appear on the iPhone screen, but will not appear on the body of the phone itself. Of particular interest, Cingular's exclusivity contract "covers 'all models' of the iPhone, including several other devices in the works that may be 'coming out very quickly'". Unfortunately, the exact details surrounding the quote were unavailable, but appears to be related to the possibility of future 3G implementation on the iPhone -- a feature which Steve Jobs stated during the keynote was on the roadmap for future models. Other details include: - 2 year contract required, applies for existing customers as well - Apple is taking additional efforts to prevent the unlocking of the phones - Apple and Cingular will share tech support responsibilities - Cingular hinted at possible iPhone specific data plans - Likely a 1 year warranty Meanwhile, there's a battle for the rights to Apple's phone in the UK. The contenders include O2, Vodafone, Orange and T-Mobile. MacWelt.de published answers to questions (translation) from Apple Germany about the iPhone. And iLounge was able to have some hands on time with the iPhone. Some things revealed in these reports: - iTunes songs can not be set as ringtones - As reported, battery is not user replaceable - Gestures / Scrolling interface has brief learning curve - Screen appears resistant to smudges - No Voice over IP support - No wireless iTunes downloads/purchases Also, in case you missed it, Apple has posted (iTunes) the Macworld San Francisco 2007 keynote in video podcast format on the iTunes Store. hmmm.. |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:33 PM
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hahaha.........hahahaa..
anyways this sharp screen also looks not bad. |
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Jan 12 2007, 09:55 PM
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unlock unlock unlock.... haha.... hhmmm... wonder when we will see this iPhones in our shores or Singapore...
Unlock or not, I want it!! If locked.. means we can use it only as an camera + iPod (Music/Video/Pictures). Probably get a small slim phone... Yup, its a great screen. QVGA Sharp Aquos at 2.2" size.. 170degrees viewing angle. This post has been edited by shaznizzle: Jan 12 2007, 09:58 PM |
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Jan 13 2007, 01:39 PM
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Jan 14 2007, 02:44 AM
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does it comes with white colour?????
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Jan 14 2007, 03:11 PM
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I heard there will be a limited 200 versions coming out, carbon fiber body.
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Jan 14 2007, 08:59 PM
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I will get this phone no matter what it cost.
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Jan 14 2007, 09:28 PM
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me too.. but still must wait for unlock
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Jan 15 2007, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(cafuheva @ Jan 14 2007, 08:59 PM) I will get this phone no matter what it cost. I'll stay safe and wait for an official review,but at this point, I'll be saving for 2008. |
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Jan 15 2007, 12:39 AM
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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Jan 15 2007, 12:31 AM) I'll stay safe and wait for an official review, Yah, wait for the 2nd and 3rd batch.but at this point, I'll be saving for 2008. |
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Jan 15 2007, 01:24 AM
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QUOTE(kockroach @ Jan 15 2007, 01:39 AM) Yah, wait for the 2nd and 3rd batch. 2008 long ways to go, perhaps at that time, the iPhone revision is on the way... |
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Jan 15 2007, 03:42 PM
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check www.gizmodo.com theres a cool video, Steve Jobs is in SNL!! The true, iPhone specs revealed..
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Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM
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wait for 2009 when Apple releases the Flip iPhone.
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Jan 15 2007, 04:20 PM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 15 2007, 04:07 PM) wait for 2009 when Apple releases the Flip iPhone. nonono.... iPhone Shuffle, then iPhone Nano... get it? |
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Jan 15 2007, 06:11 PM
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By 2008, 2nd revision will be out.
Most likely including more features that will appeal to Asian, most likely Japanese. Apple revise their products at least every year. So, if we don't want those imports, wait till the 2nd revision out. Also, there's some rumors that another smaller version of iPhone is coming. This is almost guaranteed, i guess. But how? Less feature? More expensive? |
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Jan 16 2007, 12:07 AM
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with the new iPhone, has it crossed your mind that maybe the next gen iPod might as well be a touch screen too
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Jan 16 2007, 12:30 AM
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guess i'll stick to this iPhone.... rather than PDAs now
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Jan 16 2007, 12:06 PM
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how powerful this Iphone compared to our recent marketed PDAs? no one knows, right?
perhaps, Steve Jobs can clarify the processor speed used in the Iphone. But, nevertheless, it is a great device and I am looking foward to have one. ps- never use OS X before. is it something like Microsoft Mobile? more user friendly? you know, i am good buddy with Mr. Gates..hehehehhehehe |
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jan 16 2007, 12:06 PM) how powerful this Iphone compared to our recent marketed PDAs? no one knows, right? its internal is similar to samsung's black jackperhaps, Steve Jobs can clarify the processor speed used in the Iphone. But, nevertheless, it is a great device and I am looking foward to have one. ps- never use OS X before. is it something like Microsoft Mobile? more user friendly? you know, i am good buddy with Mr. Gates..hehehehhehehe |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Jan 15 2007, 04:20 PM) nonono.... iPhone Shuffle, then iPhone Nano... get it? if the iphone nano, sure the screen size is too small and not practical. iphone shuffle??  |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:29 PM
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jan 16 2007, 12:06 PM) ps- never use OS X before. is it something like Microsoft Mobile? more user friendly? you know, i am good buddy with Mr. Gates..hehehehhehehe I used to be best buddies wit Mr Gates too... but soon discovered that OS X is much more user friendly than Windows... but i like them both either ways cause my MB's runnin both... i think the so called OS X on the iphone cud be a watered down version of the OS X... still as friendly i guess... |
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Jan 16 2007, 01:58 PM
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Speculated specs of the iPhone is that it's running a Samsung ARM processor and not Intel. The graphics cheap is from NVIDIA.
I believe 'OS X' as Steve Jobs mentioned isn't the same as Mac OS X as used on Mac desktops and portables. The iPhone OS X could be an Mac OS X-flavored separate OS. Not sure if it's a whole new platform but definitely the same as the Mac OS X we've come to love and use daily. |
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Jan 16 2007, 03:28 PM
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QUOTE(supafreak @ Jan 16 2007, 01:29 PM) I used to be best buddies wit Mr Gates too... yeah, that was when Mr Gates decided to go global with Windows and he controlled all the things in the world. not anymore Mr Gates, after the Ipod thing. but soon discovered that OS X is much more user friendly than Windows... but i like them both either ways cause my MB's runnin both... i think the so called OS X on the iphone cud be a watered down version of the OS X... still as friendly i guess... but then, I am counting on you that this Mac platformed OS is well better than Microsoft. I am having somesort of crash-love thing soon after I saw the Iphone. I am also hoping the processor relevance can last at least a year, as Iphone is coming late this year or early 2008. If they put something crap like 300Mhz, then its going to be very outdated coming 2008. I AM IN LOVE~~   |
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Jan 16 2007, 04:35 PM
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9674907-1...l?tag=cnetfd.mt
Buetooth headset from Apple that will be ship together with iPhone. |
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Jan 16 2007, 06:21 PM
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iphone get sued by Cisco
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Jan 16 2007, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(4agze @ Jan 16 2007, 06:21 PM) iphone get sued by Cisco Smells like you don't really like Apple don't you? They are currently in the process discussing about the trademark name.lol |
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 16 2007, 08:01 PM) Smells like you don't really like Apple don't you? They are currently in the process discussing about the trademark name. Its just a name copyright, worse come to worse iPhone just have to change the name.The technology and the product still remains. |
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Jan 16 2007, 08:13 PM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 16 2007, 08:01 PM) Smells like you don't really like Apple don't you? They are currently in the process discussing about the trademark name. no am not, have a thought to go MB... but not their ipod... |
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Jan 16 2007, 09:28 PM
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look at his sig u adi he not a apple hater
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QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Jan 16 2007, 12:06 PM) perhaps, Steve Jobs can clarify the processor speed used in the Iphone. Clarify how much Mhz it has doesn't prove anything as far as i'm concern.But, nevertheless, it is a great device and I am looking foward to have one. Different chips has different performance. What if the software is very optimized? Show me how fast it does stuff or do some intensive stuff, then we compare, ok? QUOTE(cafuheva @ Jan 16 2007, 01:29 PM) if the iphone nano, sure the screen size is too small and not practical. iphone shuffle?? iPhone nano, seems plausible, but it won't be the best seller like iPhone.OMG, iPhone shuffle, shuffle ur calls, u won't know who picks up the phone, discover new friends or suddenly called ur ex while she's dating with a new bf. Endless social possibilities. QUOTE(crash @ Jan 16 2007, 01:58 PM) I believe 'OS X' as Steve Jobs mentioned isn't the same as Mac OS X as used on Mac desktops and portables. They mentioned OS X probably because it will run on Darwin, the UNIX variant underneath OS X. A stripped down Darwin with a custom interface is what i think. UNIX...*drools* Can hack become Linux. |
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Jan 17 2007, 03:25 PM
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you can always do this in the mean time....
  from http://www.myiphone.com/iphone-wanna-be-of-the-day-15219.php and http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/01/13/s...et-sued-by-app/ |
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Jan 17 2007, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE(H4RRY @ Jan 17 2007, 12:39 AM) They mentioned OS X probably because it will run on Darwin, the UNIX variant underneath OS X. A stripped down Darwin with a custom interface is what i think. UNIX...*drools* Can hack become Linux. Why would you wanna install Linux? Mac OS X is a far more matured OS in terms of usability and elegance. I do know of iPodLinux projects though. |
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Jan 17 2007, 07:10 PM
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Ehm guys... Need to know wether this iphone has video recording abilities. Not one article mention about video recording right?
Also, it looks like it does not have flash? Just realized it. |
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Jan 17 2007, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jan 17 2007, 08:10 PM) Ehm guys... Need to know wether this iphone has video recording abilities. Not one article mention about video recording right? i think there shud be video recording capability.. but nothing to shout about the quality of recorded video. but the video playback quality shud be good, the ipod video capability..Also, it looks like it does not have flash? Just realized it. doesnt hv a flash? the camera part isnt their main focus... a lot of phones doesnt hv a flash light too.. |
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Jan 18 2007, 09:56 AM
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Any news yet? I mean those underwater coming in msia one? sure sell above rm3k one. 2008 is suffering
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Jan 18 2007, 10:11 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 17 2007, 07:25 PM) i think there shud be video recording capability.. but nothing to shout about the quality of recorded video. but the video playback quality shud be good, the ipod video capability.. correction... it only captures pics... no video recording... u can chk out more abt the iphones if u google up "pogue iphone faq"... doesnt hv a flash? the camera part isnt their main focus... a lot of phones doesnt hv a flash light too.. iphone dont support java, flash... the video's not true 16:9... u can fill the screen but at the expense of the left n right sides of the video... i so wanted to get one when it comes out but now i'm havin second thoughts... i guess if apple didnt do an alliance wit cingular/AT&T, then we wud hv a phone tat's not locked and hv 3G, etc... |
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Jan 18 2007, 12:45 PM
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No java and flash?
Crap. Then why call it full fledge? It's a pain in the ass trying to access full websites using my ipaq. and btw, ' Does the camera record video? -Not yet. Apple may add this feature by June. ' Which means there is gonna be video recording capablity. |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE MacWelt.de - What Steve Jobs didn't tell about the iPhone Source : MacWelt.de - What Steve Jobs didn't tell about the iPhoneGerman online (and print) magazine MacWelt (www.macwelt.de) apparently talked to Apple Germany about the iPhone to get some information Steve Jobs didn't mention at the Keynote. (1) Apple didn't give a definite answer whether the iPhone would run OS X 10.4 or 10.5, but they emphasized that it deploys a full version of it. However, see (3)... (2) The complete OS will be stored on the flash memory, but it takes up far less than 500 MB. So while this draws away some storage from the 4/8GB memory, it's extremely easy to install software or firmware updates. (3) Apple decides what programs will run on the iPhone, just like with the iPod games before, and Apple won't release any specs at the moment. This also applies to 3rd party widgets. (4) No iTMS download at this time. Chances are that Apple and Cingular couldn't find an agreement on this topics. However, they don't rule out that this option might be added at a later point. (see (2) about software updates) (5) No iTunes songs as ring tones. (6) No VoIP support, as this would cut down Cingular's profits. (7) Safari is said to include as many plugins as possible, but there is no fixed list yet. It does include Flash and Java, though. (8) There have been no decisions yet about which provider will sell the iPhone in Germany - the Apple/Cingular contract only applies to the USA. (http://www.macwelt.de/news/messen/342764/index.html) |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:31 PM
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Thank you, hiiragizawa for the quote of MacWelt.de. I'm wondering whether it will support expandable memory card so we can swap it when the space is full.
I'm wondering when at the soonest they will market it to Malaysia and what will the price be? I read from somewhere that it will be quite steep in the U.S and priced around USD$1936 (including all sort of fees). |
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Jan 18 2007, 01:34 PM
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jan 18 2007, 12:45 PM) No java and flash? yea.. i'm sure alot of capabilities will be added... but i do wish tat apple dont hv their balls squeezed by Cingular's, i.e. no VOIP... and no external application developers... Crap. Then why call it full fledge? It's a pain in the ass trying to access full websites using my ipaq. and btw, ' Does the camera record video? -Not yet. Apple may add this feature by June. ' Which means there is gonna be video recording capablity. the biggest surprise for me is how come can't use iTunes music as ringtones... |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:12 AM
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Jan 19 2007, 02:57 PM
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I think just wait until June to read more reviews on the iphone. Right now, everything also incomplete.
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Have u read the 2 pages articles in the Stars yesterday on iPhone? go read it all ur answers are there. To summarise what I hv read:
1) The iPhone shown to media is just a work in progress phone (WIP)! 2) The video recording function has yet to be confirmed. 3) No mentioning of 3G at all..probably no... 4) No mentioning of GPS 5) The WIP portions of the phone include - calculator & calender! They are working hard to build these function in the phone (Last min job!) 6) iphone will be released in June for US market & Asia in 2008. So from the spec...doesn't looks good to me... This post has been edited by stimix: Jan 19 2007, 03:10 PM |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:11 PM
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a very "smart" marketing plan ...
apple now got "six month" to make it right ...... now lots and lots of comment already in the air ( all over the world are giving ideal and feed back .... so apple has all the time in the world to do all the adjustment they need ..... where production is ON HOLD now ... bloody good and effective marketing strategy ....... |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:15 PM
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QUOTE(suns8630 @ Jan 19 2007, 03:11 PM) a very "smart" marketing plan ... Wow u can read their mind apple now got "six month" to make it right ...... now lots and lots of comment already in the air ( all over the world are giving ideal and feed back .... so apple has all the time in the world to do all the adjustment they need ..... where production is ON HOLD now ... bloody good and effective marketing strategy ....... ...so folks add up what u wnat from this iphone and by the time releas all ur dreams come true.... |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:17 PM
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http://www.smh.com.au/news/mobiles--handhe...9095944823.html
http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/2007...-id-102731.html http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/A0Pueh66...an-iPhone.xhtml http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1413 <--- pics in here Not so smart after all? This post has been edited by hiiragizawa: Jan 19 2007, 03:26 PM |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(hiiragizawa @ Jan 19 2007, 03:17 PM) http://www.smh.com.au/news/mobiles--handhe...9095944823.html Haha....Apple always slow one ho... http://www.themoneytimes.com/articles/2007...-id-102731.html http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/A0Pueh66...an-iPhone.xhtml http://www.esato.com/news/article.php/id=1413 <--- pics in here Not so smart after all? gave the idea out & someone in the East copied & produce it faster.....so the marketing plan kill themself....LG wuns... |
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Jan 19 2007, 03:49 PM
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LG no wifi though.
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Jan 19 2007, 03:58 PM
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LG no wifi though.
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Jan 19 2007, 04:18 PM
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iPhone available!!!
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Jan 19 2007, 04:19 PM
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wow usd780 for the LG.
i'll go for iPhone as it is the next gen ipod |
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Jan 19 2007, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(76radius @ Jan 15 2007, 01:24 AM) 2008 long ways to go, perhaps at that time, the iPhone revision is on the way... How about this bright future image:2008 ... Japan, Korea uninterested in iFon (new legal name) because impossible to use with local systems, and only old technology .... Apple cannot get any Asian Telcos to agree to selling only locked units.... Asian market written off, with any others who do not lock phones to licensed telcos... No Apple iFon sold in Malaysia. Cheap Chinese GSM look-alikes flood market. Yes, the iPhone is very important & revolutionary FOR THE USA, but elsewhere, hmmmmmm...... 111 |
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QUOTE(oneeleven @ Jan 19 2007, 08:33 PM) How about this bright future image: their main target are, ipod users (those craving for wide screen ipod video), apple and mac lovers... their communication technology (wifi, gms based etc) might be old compare to japan and korea, but the user interface, operation system, and ease of use do shows/prove something new, revolutionary& revolutionary FOR THE USA, but elsewhere, hmmmmmm...... 111 |
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QUOTE iPhone Accused of Copycatting Korean Model By Kim Tae-gyu Staff Reporter The iPhone of Apple Computer is allegedly a clone of a handset made by the Seoul-based LG Electronics, the world's fifth-largest cell phone manufacturer. An info-tech Web site Engadget (www.engadget.com) yesterday said that the iPhone is very similar to the LG KE850, which has a moniker of the ``Prada phone.'' While comparing looks and touch-sensitive keypads of the two models with big pictures, the site asks for responses from readers on their similarities. ``Two sparsely-buttoned large, touch screen phones: the Apple iPhone and the LG KE850. Separated at birth, or possible lawsuit No. 2 for Apple? You decide,'' the site briefly introduces the pictures. What Engadget means was that if LG sues Apple over patent infingement, it would be the second lawsuit against the iPhone after its long awaited release. As soon as Apple boss Steve Jobs revealed the iPhone last week, U.S. network company Cisco Systems filed a lawsuit against Apple, claiming trademark rights on the iPhone. Many Internet users, who uploaded postings at the Engadget site, admitted the looks and user interfaces of the two devices are strikingly similar _ they are both rounded, black rectangles with a big touch screen in the middle. LG Electronics also thinks the two gadgets are almost identical but the company seems undecided as to whether or not to cry foul against Apple through court action. ``At first glance, we recognized the iPhone shares many form factors with the Prada phone. We are flattered that other makers follow our design policy,'' LG spokesman Lee Hyoung-kun said. ``We can't say at the moment whether or not we will file a lawsuit against Apple regarding this. It's too early to make remarks on the issues,'' Lee said. Experts predict that if the two phones share functionalities on top of looks, LG might file a complaint. LG has yet to reveal specifications of the Prada phone, which the firm looks to market soon. Yet, its exterior was shown to the public when it won the International Forum Design Product Design Award for 2007. Apple plans to launch the iPhones in June in the United States and months later in Europe. Source : http://times.hankooki.com/lpage/tech/20070...18245011800.htm This post has been edited by hiiragizawa: Jan 19 2007, 08:57 PM |
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Jan 19 2007, 09:02 PM
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How come so many companies out there wanna attack Apple so badly? Just weeks after launched, got so many problems. How are they gonna survive and cope with those problems for another 4-5months?
...and boy they're patented! What's your excuse! |
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Jan 19 2007, 10:46 PM
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Wow tot LG copy iPhone now iPhone is the one copying east..huh.....
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Jan 20 2007, 01:05 AM
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i think this is the most anticipated phone ever made yet |
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Jan 20 2007, 01:28 AM
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tat LG against iPhone? it seems very unlikely that LG will win... it doesnt seems very same to me..
everything is a copy of another.. or do other phone hv to make the screen in triangle shape so tat it doesnt look the same as other.. how about those slim version against moto razr... just another tactic for LG to tumpang popularity at the moment maybe.. |
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Jan 20 2007, 11:33 AM
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The iPhone has not hit the stores yet, but there are some companies already started to make their accessories. I wonder does iPhone comes with a screen protector or a case for protection.
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Jan 20 2007, 12:45 PM
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the design was very special....
wouldnt be a doubt that iPhone has its own price.... and to be honest, this isnt a complete product yet... its best is still yet to come.... you can juz go to www.youtube.com and search for iPhone... |
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Jan 20 2007, 01:09 PM
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watching steve jobs demo iphone in his keynote, i can say that it can surpass other smartphones. it really great and simple.
there's one where steve jobs search nearest starbucks using google map, then he took the starbuck phone number and make prank call. lol. he was like " i want 4000 latte please. sorry, just kidding. wrong number. bye". i wish there will be google map for malaysia when the iphone comes out here. |
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Jan 20 2007, 02:53 PM
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want to ask something.
this iphone use pen or just finger? if yes finger, is it gonna leave finger-prints on the screen? one more, is there any game can install instead of songs? |
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Jan 20 2007, 02:56 PM
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QUOTE(yuka @ Jan 20 2007, 02:53 PM) want to ask something. Finger-controlled interface.this iphone use pen or just finger? if yes finger, is it gonna leave finger-prints on the screen? one more, is there any game can install instead of songs? Who knows. and who knows. |
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Jan 20 2007, 03:33 PM
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it leaves finger prints on the device ( or smudge if you prefer) but it can be 'easily' wiped off.
as for games, most ppl predict that it will have ipod games in it. 3rd party app games? that one, a bit more difficult la |
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Jan 20 2007, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE(shamnemesis @ Jan 20 2007, 01:05 AM) i think this is the most anticipated phone ever made yet Most anticipated (currently) : Yes.Can the anticipation last for 6 months (if you're an American)? : ??? Can the anticipation last for 1++ years (if you're Asian)? : ??? |
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Jan 20 2007, 08:10 PM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:33 AM) The iPhone has not hit the stores yet, but there are some companies already started to make their accessories. I wonder does iPhone comes with a screen protector or a case for protection. That's a really ugly casing. Eww. |
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Jan 20 2007, 10:37 PM
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how much u guys think it will be? its freakin awesome
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Jan 22 2007, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(lokgotz @ Jan 10 2007, 03:45 AM) 4gb for USD499=RM1800 This is the answer. It was posted on the first page dude. 5gb for USD599=Rm2160 taking 1usd=rm3.6 that's cheap! QUOTE(artfiq14 @ Jan 20 2007, 10:37 PM) how much u guys think it will be? its freakin awesome |
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Jan 22 2007, 12:37 PM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:33 AM) The iPhone has not hit the stores yet, but there are some companies already started to make their accessories. I wonder does iPhone comes with a screen protector or a case for protection. i personally will not buy that kind of ugly stuff to put together with my cool gadget. |
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Jan 22 2007, 12:47 PM
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anyone doing bulk order of this kind of phone?
i wanna join!! |
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Jan 22 2007, 12:59 PM
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correct me. the iphone will be selling with 2 years contract, then i guess the price without the contract will be more than the price they stated, right?
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Jan 22 2007, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(signboard @ Jan 22 2007, 01:59 PM) correct me. the iphone will be selling with 2 years contract, then i guess the price without the contract will be more than the price they stated, right? YA. sure expensive. But i'm not so sure apple will like to sell iphone without contract. Just thought about 3rd party app, apple do not want 3rd party app in "their" iphone |
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Jan 22 2007, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(allvin @ Jan 22 2007, 01:02 PM) YA. sure expensive. But i'm not so sure apple will like to sell iphone without contract. Just thought about 3rd party app, apple do not want 3rd party app in "their" iphone then i guess it might come up to 3k ringgit. i also wonder why apple did not want to 3rd party app in there. maybe security issue? |
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Jan 22 2007, 02:32 PM
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It's not that Apple is not allowing 3rd party apps altogether. It's a quality issue. Developers would need to go through Apple's strict UI and quality guidelines before they can be considered for the iPhone. And since Apple themselves are GREAT software developers. Keeping it a closed platform has its advantages.
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Jan 22 2007, 02:55 PM
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The iPhone is following the model set forth by current iPods where third party games are commissioned by Apple.
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Jan 23 2007, 09:03 AM
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i wonder whether the iphone can be brought into planes. it doesn't have flight mode yet eh?
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Jan 23 2007, 09:33 AM
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QUOTE(signboard @ Jan 23 2007, 09:03 AM) i wonder whether the iphone can be brought into planes. it doesn't have flight mode yet eh? Reportedly, the iPhone does hv flight mode... |
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Jan 23 2007, 10:31 AM
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QUOTE(supafreak @ Jan 23 2007, 09:33 AM) Reportedly, the iPhone does hv flight mode... uhuh..how come i missed this one . nvr read the specs carefully..lol |
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QUOTE(allvin @ Jan 23 2007, 04:37 PM) the link doesnt work. or is it due to limited bandwith? but anyway, whats flight mode? |
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Jan 24 2007, 11:27 AM
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QUOTE(krux @ Jan 22 2007, 02:55 PM) The iPhone is following the model set forth by current iPods where third party games are commissioned by Apple. Yes that's accurate. The reason being Apple can set guidelines and control quality of the 3rd party products. It's a good thing. You won't want you iPhone/iPod crashing on ya, would you? |
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QUOTE(dgrebel @ Jan 24 2007, 12:07 PM) the link doesnt work. or is it due to limited bandwith? but anyway, whats flight mode? The link fine. Just now i try click again, it's works.Hmm.. flight mode is like switch off the network functions (calling/emails/sms..) and you can use your phone as normal mp3/mp4 player, AKA turn into IPOD |
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Jan 24 2007, 12:47 PM
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I think Flight Mode is a great idea.
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Jan 24 2007, 12:55 PM
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QUOTE(crash @ Jan 24 2007, 12:47 PM) I think Flight Mode is a great idea. what is Flight Mode?? |
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4gb oli usd 499.. reasonable price... love it
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Jan 24 2007, 06:15 PM
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nice phone asia will oli can get on 2008 usd499 with reasonable price
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QUOTE(darkimp @ Jan 24 2007, 01:55 PM) what is Flight Mode?? *cough* Do you refer my previous post? And it's still on this page  QUOTE(cutiepooh @ Jan 24 2007, 07:15 PM) nice phone asia will oli can get on 2008 usd499 with reasonable price YA! Please read it carefully. USD499 and 2 years contract with Cingular Reasonable price.. yeahh... |
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Jan 25 2007, 09:21 AM
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first i also like "wow..only 499". then realized that it comes with 2 years contract meaning the price of the phone is larger than the price they stated now.
it would be sucks if the phone comes here contract-tied with malaysian telcos. 2 years on a contract is quite dangerous and if screws up, will end up with all the 'hutang'. |
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Jan 25 2007, 02:43 PM
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when this iphone will sell at m'sia? n wut is de price
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Jan 25 2007, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE(j0yc3 @ Jan 25 2007, 02:43 PM) when this iphone will sell at m'sia? n wut is de price No announcement has been made to sell it here and the price. |
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visit cNet review, they have it reviewed... but they also did say, if u can wait, iPhone 2G (2nd Gen) is around the corner, double the memory and batt life with the same price..... ooooo....
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 25 2007, 06:24 PM) visit cNet review, they have it reviewed... but they also did say, if u can wait, iPhone 2G (2nd Gen) is around the corner, double the memory and batt life with the same price..... ooooo.... izit true?? but the question came how long we need to wait?? two year? or maybe three year to reach asia? |
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QUOTE(j0yc3 @ Jan 25 2007, 02:43 PM) when this iphone will sell at m'sia? n wut is de price i think is ard 3k...damn nice tis iPhone... u saw the dema at apple website..CooL man !! |
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http://arstechnica.com/journals/apple.ars/2007/1/25/6758
seems like iPhone in Canada will be tied to one of their service provider there. i hope when it came here, it will be telco-independent. just hate to switch phone number and register to the contract. i think the phone should be available for those who are using prepaid services. |
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cingular for the states, rogers for canada. let start the guess for uk then, i bet it will be vodafone! no~~~
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Jan 26 2007, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 26 2007, 10:53 AM) cingular for the states, rogers for canada. let start the guess for uk then, i bet it will be vodafone! no~~~ its now battles of the telcos. their marketing people must be really hardworking to gain the spot. run forest run |
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QUOTE(youngkies @ Jan 26 2007, 11:53 AM) cingular for the states, rogers for canada. let start the guess for uk then, i bet it will be vodafone! no~~~ HAHA!! My best bet sure is Vodafone in UK |
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Jan 26 2007, 03:13 PM
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UK this year October... its earlier than expected!
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Jan 26 2007, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 26 2007, 04:13 PM) UK this year October... its earlier than expected! yes.. good tactic from apple so it will be included into the xmas gift list... |
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It's cool, really cool, it's smarter than other phone, really smart, it use Mac OS X, not Windows Mobile, and reasonable price since it combines iPod + phones + PDA..
But it doesn't have 3G. My next phone will not be non-3G phone. iPhone is a phenom in Europe but in Asia, I don't think so. Bring to Asia at least 3G phone so then you (Apple) can compete with SE, Nokia or Motorola. |
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Jan 28 2007, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(signboard @ Jan 25 2007, 09:21 AM) first i also like "wow..only 499". then realized that it comes with 2 years contract meaning the price of the phone is larger than the price they stated now. What do you mean hutang ?it would be sucks if the phone comes here contract-tied with malaysian telcos. 2 years on a contract is quite dangerous and if screws up, will end up with all the 'hutang'. Well steve jobs said something about lowering the price of this thing year by year. But he doesnt seems convinced though, he was looking downwards instead of looking face to face to the reporter. He said something like, they will make this cheaper as the years goes by and he doesnt think why anybody won't get the phone. |
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QUOTE(SeeD @ Jan 28 2007, 02:04 AM) What do you mean hutang ? if with contract, and somehow u screw up the contract stuff, didnt pay, missed, owe or pay late for the monthly rental fees during ur contract period, then you will get bad credit rating from the telco to ur bank and hence your future credit check is screwed up as well.. unless u properly settle down the issue with the telco and bank.. |
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Jan 28 2007, 03:39 AM
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i dont know what takes so long for this iphone to be released ? i would say that some other manufacturers could create something better sooner |
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Jan 29 2007, 03:34 AM
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QUOTE(shamnemesis @ Jan 28 2007, 03:39 AM) i dont know what takes so long for this iphone to be released ? i would say that some other manufacturers could create something better sooner agree with you. So i decided to wait the second generation of iphone. I hope it would not take that long time for them to ship it to Asia. |
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QUOTE(shamnemesis @ Jan 28 2007, 04:39 AM) i dont know what takes so long for this iphone to be released ? i would say that some other manufacturers could create something better sooner there is something better out there already at this time.. nokia and LG 5mp cameraphone, SE walkman phone or nokia Music Edition, LG Choc and Samsung touch sensitive sensors keypad, smartphone with symbian 3rd edition or WM 5 and etc etc.not to mention those Japan telephony technology, like bravia technology, mobileTV etc etc.. but i would say, all of these totally different league with iPhone, with its aqua & cocoa Mac OS, the multitouch, the ipod features, album art flow, etc etc. |
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Jan 29 2007, 06:56 AM
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QUOTE(darkimp @ Jan 29 2007, 03:34 AM) agree with you. So i decided to wait the second generation of iphone. I hope it would not take that long time for them to ship it to Asia. hehe, yes indeed... this is just the beginning for apple to create phone based. i'll wait for next release from apple |
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Jan 29 2007, 05:03 PM
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the cheapest will be rm2699 and above, u guys cannot convert from 499 to 3.6 currency, coz u see, the ipod etc selling in usa is cheap, but arrive here is expensive due to tax etc.
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Jan 29 2007, 07:12 PM
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MacStudio informed me that the iPhone will only reach Asia in 2008, and that is Asia, so u can only imagine when will it reach Malaysia..
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Jan 29 2007, 09:44 PM
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What's the hurry people? Let the rest use the phone and give their feedbacks and problems to Apple before we Malaysians do, no good meh?
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Jan 30 2007, 03:25 PM
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at last China show some fight back/feedback/their best ability to iPhone
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/406169 QUOTE(fariz @ Jan 30 2007, 11:17 AM) QUOTE A chinese company has apparently announced a new cellular phone that looks remarkably similar to Apple's iPhone, according to one report. The new phone called M8 -- which is said to be designed by Chinese firm Meizu -- features touch-screen functionality and boasts a smaller footprint than Apple's iPhone with an accompanying smaller screen, but offers a higher 720x480 resolution than Apple's 320x480 iPhone. The M8 is driven by an ARM11 processor with video codec support, according to VR-Zone.com, and offers a built-in 3.0-megapixel digital camera on the back side with a 0.3-megapixel camera facing forward. The M8 runs Windows CE 6.0 and offers both Bluetooth as well as TV-out connectivity, catering to GSM+TD-SCMA for mobile communication. Pricing and storage capacity for the new phone are unknown, according to the source, though Apple's iPhone will initially sell for $499 and $599 in 4GB and 8GB capacities, respectively. Source: MacNN  This post has been edited by youngkies: Jan 30 2007, 03:26 PM |
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Jan 30 2007, 06:13 PM
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 For a start the M8 has what the iPhone most obviously lacks: 3G, it also sports a 3.3in 720 x 480 high resolution touch screen and a three megapixel camera as well as PMP abilities. There's an ARM 11 processor at its heart which is capable of recording video at 30fps and Bluetooth and WiFi make it onboard. |
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Jan 30 2007, 07:10 PM
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6 months is definitely too long for Apple...
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Jan 30 2007, 07:49 PM
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QUOTE(signboard @ Jan 26 2007, 10:05 AM) just hate to switch phone number and register to the contract. i think the phone should be available for those who are using prepaid services. Number portability should be implemented by then, hopefully...QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 30 2007, 06:13 PM) For a start the M8 has what the iPhone most obviously lacks: 3G, it also sports a 3.3in 720 x 480 high resolution touch screen and a three megapixel camera as well as PMP abilities. There's an ARM 11 processor at its heart which is capable of recording video at 30fps and Bluetooth and WiFi make it onboard. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for those. Yeah, it looks almost as cool as iPhone. But when u got it, the OS crash, takes all your mp3 with it, slow as hell, the screen scratches worst than the iPod and probably broken in a few months.With Apple, the QC is guaranteed. |
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Jan 31 2007, 01:44 AM
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Yea but what you said is base on assumptions and it can apply to iPhone too.
Meizu is known for its best know-off of Apple product, and they are pretty good at this.. and for its cheap quality near apple products they got some recognition and people are actually advising you to buy their products if you cant afford an iPod video as an alternative. I cant wait what they can do next and with this M8. |
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Jan 31 2007, 01:52 AM
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IMHO, M8 will be cheaper than iPhone and it'll prob be available in the market sooner too
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Jan 31 2007, 11:33 AM
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It's white in color too, looks like match with white iBook or MB
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Jan 31 2007, 11:41 AM
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When Steve Jobs adressed the crowd at Macworld SF, he stated that they have been working on the iPhone for the past TWO YEARS. I captialized that because that's going to be the entire point of my post.
Apple does things differently from most manufacturers. It does ZERO market research, it employs ZERO product acceptance evaluations. It however spends an incredible ammount of time (TWO YEARS) making sure the user interface is as natural and intuitive as possible. The mantra at Apple is not so much "Think Different" but rather "Think like Steve". Therefore while other companies are going to come up with phones that outperform the iPhone in specs; or look very similar to the iPhone at first glance.... .... NONE of them will come even close to the user-experience/functionality hey, even sexyness of the Apple product. I'm taking a trip to the States in June and I'll be sure to buy one of these. You can put good money on that... |
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 keke.. this is a very funny clip about Steve Jobs introducing the latest invention, iPod Invisa and iPhone on Saturday Night Live .. Enjoy! Check out the clips here : Apple SNL & MadTV iPhone Parody and iPod Invisa Clips This post has been edited by mcchen: Jan 31 2007, 01:31 PM |
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Jan 31 2007, 02:16 PM
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dude, i think u just share the story at this thread, after all it's related
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/395190 |
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Jan 31 2007, 02:24 PM
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Thread merged.
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Feb 26 2007, 11:52 AM
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Apple just aired an iPhone teaser ad in US.
go get it ppl.This post has been edited by wei: Feb 26 2007, 12:04 PM |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Jan 31 2007, 11:41 AM) When Steve Jobs adressed the crowd at Macworld SF, he stated that they have been working on the iPhone for the past TWO YEARS. I captialized that because that's going to be the entire point of my post. That's actually a VERY good description of Apple's mantra, MacDaNife. And I am with you 100% about nothing coming close to user experience and functionality. Looking like something, doesn't mean performing as equal.Apple does things differently from most manufacturers. It does ZERO market research, it employs ZERO product acceptance evaluations. It however spends an incredible ammount of time (TWO YEARS) making sure the user interface is as natural and intuitive as possible. The mantra at Apple is not so much "Think Different" but rather "Think like Steve". Therefore while other companies are going to come up with phones that outperform the iPhone in specs; or look very similar to the iPhone at first glance.... .... NONE of them will come even close to the user-experience/functionality hey, even sexyness of the Apple product. I'm taking a trip to the States in June and I'll be sure to buy one of these. You can put good money on that... I do however wish to digress on your comment about ZERO market research. Apple KNOWS the market. If there is one thing Apple does brilliantly is knowing apart from bringing elegance and beauty to the world, is knowing the market and creating new markets. |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Feb 26 2007, 12:52 PM) Apple just aired an iPhone teaser ad in US. very teasing go get it ppl. Google Video |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:55 PM
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It's brilliant actually. Simple but you get the point right away. It's a cross between the 'What's Up" Bud's ad and the original "Say Hello to Mac" and "Hello Again" (iMac) ads.
Nice! Very typically Apple! |
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Feb 26 2007, 12:58 PM
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with all the big hoo haa and lawsuit with the iPhone, why don't they just change the name to 'MacPhone'?
I mean, they call the iBook the MacBook now anyway... but 'MacPod' does sound weird. |
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Feb 26 2007, 01:05 PM
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probably they're trying to have a clear divider between macintoshes & non-macintoshes.
too bad they can't get iTV. This post has been edited by wei: Feb 26 2007, 01:06 PM |
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QUOTE(azxel @ Feb 26 2007, 01:58 PM) with all the big hoo haa and lawsuit with the iPhone, why don't they just change the name to 'MacPhone'? i thought cisco vs apple over iphone is over recently. for got where i read it from, hardmac most probably, that they going to share that name, and apple hv to be readily integrate cisco tech in apple product/iphone I mean, they call the iBook the MacBook now anyway... but 'MacPod' does sound weird. |
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Feb 26 2007, 01:57 PM
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QUOTE(azxel @ Feb 26 2007, 12:58 PM) with all the big hoo haa and lawsuit with the iPhone, why don't they just change the name to 'MacPhone'? MacPhone won't work coz technically it isn't a 'Mac'. I think iPhone is cooler. Altho iMobile could be an alternative, coz it's really MORE than a phone. I mean, they call the iBook the MacBook now anyway... but 'MacPod' does sound weird. |
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Feb 26 2007, 02:03 PM
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hahahahah hello hello hello... coming in junes
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Feb 26 2007, 03:32 PM
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anyone have the back pic of it?
never see before... |
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Feb 26 2007, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(flying spaghetti monster @ Feb 26 2007, 03:32 PM) anyone have the back pic of it? Here you go! never see before...  |
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Feb 26 2007, 10:15 PM
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HD version of the Hello teaser posted by Apple.
http://www.apple.com/iphone/hello/ This post has been edited by wei: Feb 27 2007, 03:11 PM |
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Feb 28 2007, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Feb 26 2007, 06:10 PM) Here you go! wah dude thx i been searching lucky someone ask for it. |
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Looks pretty darn fine to me. Price looks affordable too. Still thinking wanna get one or not coz it is kinda big n I got a PDA with me now. Was initially thinking of getting one of those Moto KIZR or RIZR phones if their price is just above the RM1k mark or else the iPhone will be in the same price range
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Mar 5 2007, 07:17 PM
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im not sure it's off topic or what.
but a malaysian made the news LOLBring in the Clones: iPhone Interface on PocketPC http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17386 http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/appleyo...ideo-241347.php |
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that is so neat!!!
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i saw a lot of clone iphone when i came to china. same idea with Ipod nano and mp4 player. the clone Iphone even offer more functions, as advertised by the seller
. but im not brave enough to try . just wait for the ori one. |
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QUOTE(cutun1217 @ Mar 6 2007, 04:30 PM) i saw a lot of clone iphone when i came to china. same idea with Ipod nano and mp4 player. the clone Iphone even offer more functions, as advertised by the seller There's one thing these clones can't have in their iPhone clone: Mac OS X. but im not brave enough to try . just wait for the ori one. |
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Mar 6 2007, 09:09 PM
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that's why i said the idea is sth like ipod nano and the mp4 player. only the design is similar.
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QUOTE(giasens @ Mar 5 2007, 07:17 PM) im not sure it's off topic or what. it is already in the front news of lowyat.net for sometime.but a malaysian made the news LOLBring in the Clones: iPhone Interface on PocketPC http://osnews.com/comment.php?news_id=17386 http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/appleyo...ideo-241347.php QUOTE(cutun1217 @ Mar 6 2007, 04:30 PM) i saw a lot of clone iphone when i came to china. same idea with Ipod nano and mp4 player. the clone Iphone even offer more functions, as advertised by the seller china can make/clone/duplicate almost everything. but another thing is, how reliable are their cloned devices (esp. without proper QC). but im not brave enough to try . just wait for the ori one. |
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the features are to die for, but I personally think it's too big and kinda ugly.
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^ well, to each their own I guess. Some people said N73 is clunky. I feel its a little big that why it pulls me off from buying but certainly not clunky.
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QUOTE(KTay @ Jan 25 2007, 02:59 PM) No announcement has been made to sell it here and the price. spoke to a friend of mine who works for Apple, the price range will start from RM2K plus plus like that. and its definitely coming only in 2008 =/ |
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^^that's not the real iPhone rite????
arrr...i want this phone so much...... 2008>>????nooo...i can't waitttttttt |
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QUOTE(limkokgin @ Mar 8 2007, 01:26 AM) spoke to a friend of mine who works for Apple, the price range will start from RM2K plus plus like that. Not to be sarcastic or anything but Steve Jobs mentioned that himself publicly, price, timeline and all. Can we get some new unknown inside info instead? and its definitely coming only in 2008 =/ |
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Mar 8 2007, 04:20 PM) Not to be sarcastic or anything but Steve Jobs mentioned that himself publicly, price, timeline and all. Can we get some new unknown inside info instead? Doesn't matter if it's gonna be price at 2K-4K, if you wanna buy it better start saving right now! |
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hey!! i wanna buy the w900i!!!whats your best price?
QUOTE(babyk @ Jan 10 2007, 02:03 AM) iPhone has announced !!!! Can't wait for this new phone into my collection!!!! |
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QUOTE(limkokgin @ Mar 8 2007, 01:26 AM) spoke to a friend of mine who works for Apple, the price range will start from RM2K plus plus like that. How on earth can it be rm2K plus? The price in US is projected to start from USD500 which is about rm2k BUT that is if u take up a contract with AT&T or Cingular. It's subsidised by them. U cant possibly get teh iPhone for rm2k here.and its definitely coming only in 2008 =/ |
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by 2008 will Apple have been working on 2nd Gen?
then if we purchase the iPhone in 2008 and the 2nd Gen releases in 2009 i will commit suicide wei. X( |
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Mar 16 2007, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 16 2007, 12:10 PM) by 2008 will Apple have been working on 2nd Gen? HAHAHAHAHA..yeah, especially after spending like RM2.5K on one.then if we purchase the iPhone in 2008 and the 2nd Gen releases in 2009 i will commit suicide wei. X( |
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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 16 2007, 12:10 PM) by 2008 will Apple have been working on 2nd Gen? Apple's pretty fast catching up with the technology, they're working on the new iPhone probably right now (middle status maybe). Lots of people complain why 1st release of this iPhone does not have 3G like every cellphone maker does more than the iPhone. Maybe Apple wanna earn profits by the 1st release and see how it works, on the other hand surprise might just rise with the new iPhone with 3G capabilities (3.5G hopefully) and much more surprising and incredible specs compare the the other phone in the market right now.then if we purchase the iPhone in 2008 and the 2nd Gen releases in 2009 i will commit suicide wei. X( |
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Mar 16 2007, 12:23 PM
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I think it isn't a question of just '3G'. What's the market share of 3G in the US? Japan? Malaysia?
Apple has studied this and decided on the overall best and widest network which is GPRS/EDGE. Like what's been said, the iPhone will fly off the shelves NOT because of the hardware, but the user interface and Apple's strong brand. |
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QUOTE(crash @ Mar 16 2007, 12:23 PM) I think it isn't a question of just '3G'. What's the market share of 3G in the US? Japan? Malaysia? Yeah, it's 5 years ahead of any other mobile phone GUI right now. That's the coolest thing ever in it! Apple has studied this and decided on the overall best and widest network which is GPRS/EDGE. Like what's been said, the iPhone will fly off the shelves NOT because of the hardware, but the user interface and Apple's strong brand. |
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Mar 16 2007, 12:53 PM
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i wanna hold one.
and touch it. *shiverr* |
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Mar 16 2007, 02:11 PM
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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 16 2007, 12:53 PM) i wanna hold one. So does the majority of us and touch it. *shiverr* |
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One thing that Apple has always been good at is in developing eco-systems for their products. The Mac + OSX + iLife is one, the iPod + the iTunes Store and in the future + the Apple TV is another.
I am waiting to see what the iPhone eco-system is going to be like. It may start out as riding on the iTunes/iPod wave but it's possible that it will branch out on its own. The tie up with Cingular to provide visual voice mail is a hint of what's possible. I can't wait to see what else is in store over the next 12-24 months. The iPhone will fly off the shelves the moment it is introduced 3G or not. The question now is not whether but how Apple plan to innovate and sustain the initial success. |
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Mar 16 2007, 02:52 PM) One thing that Apple has always been good at is in developing eco-systems for their products. The Mac + OSX + iLife is one, the iPod + the iTunes Store and in the future + the Apple TV is another. A very good comment on 'eco-system'. Apple's an ace with strategy. They know what works and it's like they have one of those 'oracles' to tell them the future. It's a gift. I am waiting to see what the iPhone eco-system is going to be like. It may start out as riding on the iTunes/iPod wave but it's possible that it will branch out on its own. The tie up with Cingular to provide visual voice mail is a hint of what's possible. I can't wait to see what else is in store over the next 12-24 months. The iPhone will fly off the shelves the moment it is introduced 3G or not. The question now is not whether but how Apple plan to innovate and sustain the initial success. And yes, it will be interesting how Trojan-like the iPhone is, like the iPod. |
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Mar 16 2007, 06:54 PM
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iPhone 2G comes in 2008, what if in 2008 2Q, Jobs announced iPhone mini.. sigh T_T..
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Mar 17 2007, 10:24 PM
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LOL iPhone Mini..
how about iPhone Nano, U2 edition... hahahaa |
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Mar 18 2007, 11:32 PM
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goosebumps
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Mar 19 2007, 12:38 PM
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Hope it can release b4 2008 CNY. haha.. or 25th dec 2007?
Wish to grab 1 leh.. |
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Mar 20 2007, 07:35 PM
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hw much do u think an i phone would cost
im trying 2 resist saving all my money by eating graas so the i phone better be worth it |
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Mar 20 2007, 09:37 PM
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As much as i would like to grab it with both of my hands i don't think i can as my current phone is dying. LOLX, hopefully i will have extra cash for the 2nd generation.
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Mar 21 2007, 05:01 PM
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u mean the i phone is already out
im nt sure whether i still gt money a not wo i think i po kai buying 2 many ds games but anyway mayby i buy the 2nd gen 1  |
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Mar 25 2007, 02:11 PM
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huhuhu
how much do you expect the iPhone?? im really a mac obsess though trying to save money waaa |
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Mar 26 2007, 09:41 PM
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Beautiful....!!
I'm fans of Apple product. Huhu, Really wants to test it myself. |
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Mar 27 2007, 10:00 AM
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wat are the odds for us gettin a iPhone by July..... I bet theres some selling it, locked or unlocked im not sure... but I bet some FANS would juz buy it and use it as an iPod + Cam for the time being until theres an unlock service goin on...
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 Mar 27 2007, 06:24 PM
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erm wanna ask about the iphone
does it support video call? does the system work in malaysia ?. ? |
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Mar 27 2007, 08:06 PM
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QUOTE(flying spaghetti monster @ Mar 27 2007, 06:24 PM) erm wanna ask about the iphone No 3G/video call is supported on the iPhone yet. The phone will work on any GSM courier but you have to wait for the unlock in 2008.does it support video call? does the system work in malaysia ?. ? |
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Apr 6 2007, 08:49 PM
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I'm oso waiting 4 iphone but it's quite expensivelah.
So u guys comfirm tat it will release in Asia by 2008 ah??? This post has been edited by wayne_chen: Apr 6 2007, 08:50 PM |
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Apr 6 2007, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(wayne_chen @ Apr 6 2007, 08:49 PM) I'm oso waiting 4 iphone but it's quite expensivelah. Yes, you can watch the keynote at Apple.com if you're so eager.So u guys comfirm tat it will release in Asia by 2008 ah??? |
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May 18 2007, 03:44 PM
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FCC Approves iPhone
http://apple.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=07/05/17/230209 one step closer to have it in my hand |
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May 18 2007, 06:06 PM
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i juz asked the apple shop and they told me the phone will be released in malaysia in january. hope the price is not too high, i wan my iphone leh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
btw, is this phone supports chinese input method? anyone know about this? |
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May 18 2007, 06:22 PM
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Mac OSX supports chinese input. Since that it's a mini Mac OSX, i don't see why there won't be chinese input. Plus, no chinese input means very limited china/taiwan/hong kong potential customers.
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May 19 2007, 08:01 AM
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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Mar 27 2007, 10:00 AM) wat are the odds for us gettin a iPhone by July..... I bet theres some selling it, locked or unlocked im not sure... but I bet some FANS would juz buy it and use it as an iPod + Cam for the time being until theres an unlock service goin on... There is no camera on the iPhone dude.And to use it as an iPod would imply an abundance of dollars over sense. You won't even be able to use the internet features without a WiFi hotspot. On the other hand, if it is available as an unlocked GSM.... |
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May 19 2007, 08:50 AM
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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ May 19 2007, 08:01 AM) There is no camera on the iPhone dude. ermm....u must've missed the "Camera - 2.0 Megapixels" line in the technical specifications listAnd to use it as an iPod would imply an abundance of dollars over sense. You won't even be able to use the internet features without a WiFi hotspot. On the other hand, if it is available as an unlocked GSM.... |
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May 19 2007, 08:59 AM
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QUOTE(joshua_chin @ May 18 2007, 06:06 PM) i juz asked the apple shop and they told me the phone will be released in malaysia in january. hope the price is not too high, i wan my iphone leh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! there will be chinese support when the phone reach the right market.btw, is this phone supports chinese input method? anyone know about this? |
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May 19 2007, 10:30 AM
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If there's iPod function, there should be chinese support. The part I worried is the unlocking part
heck I don't want to wait for it to reach Malaysia "officially" on dunno what time after 2008. |
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May 19 2007, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(joshua_chin @ May 18 2007, 07:06 PM) i juz asked the apple shop and they told me the phone will be released in malaysia in january. hope the price is not too high, i wan my iphone leh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dude, don't ever trust what the apple shop tell you la.. That's just another rumour. So don't be too surprise if by jan, malaysia still havn't got iphone. btw, is this phone supports chinese input method? anyone know about this? Btw, apple just stated that iphone will release in asia by 2008. That's it!! No mention specific month. |
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May 19 2007, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(lailaikatong @ May 19 2007, 08:50 AM) You're absolutely right. I did. ... Haven't seen any other details about the camera though... nor any sample pictures.... Hmmm |
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May 19 2007, 01:22 PM
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i hope iPhone only available in Apple authorized shop ...i never trust salesman-on-the-street
iPhone have its reputation ...and so its quality . |
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May 20 2007, 08:08 AM
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are you guys SO sure you wanna buy a 1st gen iPhone?
be patient and see how good/bad it is first loh. IMHO =) |
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May 20 2007, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(hydrogen @ May 20 2007, 08:08 AM) are you guys SO sure you wanna buy a 1st gen iPhone? agree....i truly agree...BUT I STILL GONNA SO FKN BUY IT!!!! MUAHAAHAHAHAAHAAHAbe patient and see how good/bad it is first loh. IMHO =) |
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May 22 2007, 12:42 AM
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yup.. i heard it will be launched in the USA for US$500 together with cingular connection.
i think the wait that they put in will definetely prove to u guys that they did their homework before they start selling it! i oso think i will prefer over an O2 Or Dopod! 2 cents! |
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May 22 2007, 06:39 PM
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hmm..iphone me thinks is an collectors's item.. me wud like d_scientist would opt for a o2 or dopod.. o2 or dopod is more pratical.. jz me 2 cents..hehe.. cheers bro |
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May 23 2007, 09:16 AM
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Umm guys? What's all this talk about unlocking? Care to explain plz?
I'm already getting my iPhone and bringing it back here. Would REALLY appreciate it if some1 told me it doesn't work in M'sia. According to *Apple* staff, it should work fine. Again, please reply before June. Cause well...u know la. |
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May 23 2007, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ May 23 2007, 09:16 AM) Umm guys? What's all this talk about unlocking? Care to explain plz? the phone will be locked to cingular when it is released in US, under cingular only. that means, the phone cant use any network other than cingular until an unlock method or generic/unbranded set is made. I'm already getting my iPhone and bringing it back here. Would REALLY appreciate it if some1 told me it doesn't work in M'sia. According to *Apple* staff, it should work fine. Again, please reply before June. Cause well...u know la. |
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May 23 2007, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(youngkies @ May 23 2007, 09:40 AM) the phone will be locked to cingular when it is released in US, under cingular only. that means, the phone cant use any network other than cingular until an unlock method or generic/unbranded set is made. To be even more specific, the standard Maxis/Celcom/Digi SIM card will not work in the locked iPhone.The iPhone being quad-band GSM phone however will work in roaming mode in Malaysia but using your Cingular (now known as AT&T) account. I believe this is what the Apple staff was referring to. |
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May 24 2007, 10:16 AM
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OMG...I can't believe this!
*shocked* *stunned* *dies* GRRRR. I know I hate the iPod, but Apple shouldn't do this to new customers like me. Bish!!! Hmm, let me try to recall what Apple staff in MY said, * It'll work here no problems* Fishers.. All of em. Fish!!!  MAybe I'll actually have to consider Nokia, which I also hate, or LG Prada. Google's Phone Switch doesn't seem so bad now either.  This post has been edited by Rithrade: May 24 2007, 10:19 AM |
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May 24 2007, 10:42 AM
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Easy, wait patiently til early 2008 then.
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May 24 2007, 11:27 AM
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U know as good as I do, that early 2008 will be June 2008
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May 24 2007, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ May 24 2007, 11:27 AM) U know as good as I do, that early 2008 will be June 2008 Nope. Early 2008 will be January 2008. Latest will be March as that is the end of Q1 2008. |
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May 24 2007, 01:53 PM
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Hmmm, I'll take your word for it
I guess I'm gonna waste all that conversion into US dollars =( It's just that my old Samsung broke recently, I HAD too buy a cheap Nokia. Grr. ANti Nokia fanatic reporting in. |
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May 24 2007, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ May 24 2007, 01:53 PM) Hmmm, I'll take your word for it Dopod fan reporting in I guess I'm gonna waste all that conversion into US dollars =( It's just that my old Samsung broke recently, I HAD too buy a cheap Nokia. Grr. ANti Nokia fanatic reporting in. Well, with our Ringgit growing stronger against USD, hopefully it will be slightly cheaper when it reaches here |
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May 24 2007, 02:23 PM
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It's still bad since I bought at 3.405.
Sigh. |
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May 24 2007, 02:30 PM
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I might bring in iPhones unlocked with premium price
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May 24 2007, 03:47 PM
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How much.
Besides, if warranty is void, I'd rather wait the 6 months. Anyways, see what Apple in US says. |
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May 24 2007, 05:12 PM
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This is terrible, and I thought I would be able to get an iPhone...Apple doesn't really care about their customers worldwide, that's their big problem. I also hate all these "cracking" and "unlocking" stuff, so I guess I won't be having a phone in a while.
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May 24 2007, 05:24 PM
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the premium iPhone would not locked to Cingular telco
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May 24 2007, 07:15 PM
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babyk. plz pm me first if u ever wanna bring the iPhone here. i wanna be the first. hehehe..
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May 24 2007, 07:55 PM
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QUOTE(babyk @ May 24 2007, 02:30 PM) I might bring in iPhones unlocked with premium price so I guess unlocked one wont be having Chinese input for now right ? |
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May 24 2007, 11:28 PM
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May 24 2007, 11:31 PM
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May 25 2007, 12:15 AM
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So, we're back square one.
Which is no iPhone even for those ppl who are going to US and coming back. Fish. |
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May 25 2007, 12:52 AM
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thanks for the enlightenment..hmm..i din knw dat.. haihz..wasted r..me totz me cud c da iphone bk here..haihz.. nvm nvm..bring bk here la..jz use s ermm..pda n ipod?? ,,, |
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May 25 2007, 07:35 AM
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May 25 2007, 07:42 AM
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May 25 2007, 10:31 AM
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hahhaha..hey..da lg prada..no where near the iphone!! haha..da iphone is good!! dun la downgrade.. |
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May 26 2007, 02:10 AM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ May 24 2007, 02:23 PM) It's still bad since I bought at 3.405. but 1 thing sux was, for example...even 1USD=3MYRSigh. the convertion rate for Apple product still remain 3.8....so, nth to do with the currency exchange |
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May 26 2007, 09:30 AM
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QUOTE(tishaban @ May 23 2007, 10:00 AM) To be even more specific, the standard Maxis/Celcom/Digi SIM card will not work in the locked iPhone. AT&T had a share in development for iPhone with apple, so this how they make a businessThe iPhone being quad-band GSM phone however will work in roaming mode in Malaysia but using your Cingular (now known as AT&T) account. I believe this is what the Apple staff was referring to. |
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May 26 2007, 01:21 PM
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Sigh.
Oh well. See how lo. Will update once I get some solid evidence. |
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May 27 2007, 11:25 PM
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but i tot asus already had their share of iphone's copycatting
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May 28 2007, 12:54 AM
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June is coming soon....
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May 29 2007, 12:43 AM
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r we realli going 2 see the ipone used here? |
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May 29 2007, 12:47 AM
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yes, at 2008 perhaps, officially one
If someone manage to get it unlocked, you would see iphone being used here earlier This post has been edited by LittleLinnet: May 29 2007, 12:47 AM |
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May 31 2007, 10:27 PM
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have u guys heard of the next gen iphone to be a multi touch 1?
the multi touch technology was created by Jeff Han..go search his name up on google.. it seems Apple bought the patent for it n thus they are going to use it in the next gen iphone/// how true is this? |
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May 31 2007, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ May 31 2007, 10:27 PM) have u guys heard of the next gen iphone to be a multi touch 1? Err... THE iPhone IS ALREADY using the multi touch tech...the multi touch technology was created by Jeff Han..go search his name up on google.. it seems Apple bought the patent for it n thus they are going to use it in the next gen iphone/// how true is this? This post has been edited by civic98: May 31 2007, 10:55 PM |
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Jun 1 2007, 07:38 AM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ May 31 2007, 10:27 PM) have u guys heard of the next gen iphone to be a multi touch 1? current to be released iphone is already using the multitouch technology.the multi touch technology was created by Jeff Han..go search his name up on google.. it seems Apple bought the patent for it n thus they are going to use it in the next gen iphone/// how true is this? off track: while LG prada could be close to multitouch technology, but they are called capacitative touchscreen. |
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Jun 1 2007, 08:32 AM
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so cool. how much is it?
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Jun 1 2007, 08:59 AM
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wah ...with WIFI...can surf internet anywhere...huhu
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Jun 1 2007, 11:32 AM
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QUOTE(musha01 @ Jun 1 2007, 08:59 AM) wah ...with WIFI...can surf internet anywhere...huhu Actually, the WIFI part is really nothing to shout about, WIFI had been available on most PDA phones for years. Down side of the iPhone:- 1. Really really really expensive 2. No replacement for battery 3. No 3G 4. 2 megapixels camera 5. No video capture 6. and the list goes on... AND that is when it is released here in 2008, by that time, it will be way behind the specs of most other phones! |
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Jun 1 2007, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ May 31 2007, 10:27 PM) have u guys heard of the next gen iphone to be a multi touch 1? Aiyoyo, go read Apple iPhone specs mate!the multi touch technology was created by Jeff Han..go search his name up on google.. it seems Apple bought the patent for it n thus they are going to use it in the next gen iphone/// how true is this? |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:22 PM
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civic >>U just hate it for no real solid reason.
So, letme hate Nokia for no solid reason too. There. Happy? |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:30 PM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ Jun 1 2007, 10:22 PM) civic >>U just hate it for no real solid reason. Naa.. I dont hate it, its just the downside of it, everything has its downside. Nothing to do with hate, it's just specs.So, letme hate Nokia for no solid reason too. There. Happy? QUOTE Exactly. Specs are JUST that. If the REAL thing disappoints, then yes, hate all you want. But till then. It's just specs. Whats wrong with you? The specs are lower than most competitors and thats it, its not hate, cant you understand that? This post has been edited by civic98: Jun 1 2007, 11:19 PM |
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Jun 1 2007, 10:37 PM
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Exactly.
Specs are JUST that. If the REAL thing disappoints, then yes, hate all you want. But till then. It's just specs. |
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Jun 1 2007, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Jun 1 2007, 11:30 PM) Naa.. I dont hate it, its just the downside of it, everything has its downside. Nothing to do with hate, it's just specs. yep.. just like macbook {without the "Pro"} Whats wrong with you? The specs are lower than most competitors and thats it, its not hate, cant you understand that?  |
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Jun 2 2007, 12:07 AM
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Guys with PDA Phones, check this out, real cool:-
http://pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1840 It locks the screen just like the iPhone, to unlock, slide it, IT WORKS!! Attached is the screen from my XDAIIi. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Jun 2 2007, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Jun 2 2007, 12:07 AM) Guys with PDA Phones, check this out, real cool:- wow... must try, but left my xda dock at home http://pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=1840 It locks the screen just like the iPhone, to unlock, slide it, IT WORKS!! Attached is the screen from my XDAIIi. |
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Jun 2 2007, 12:17 AM
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No need for dock, just copy it to your XDA.
It's just amazing things that these ppl at XDA Developers come out with This post has been edited by civic98: Jun 2 2007, 12:18 AM |
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Jun 2 2007, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(civic98 @ Jun 2 2007, 12:17 AM) No need for dock, just copy it to your XDA. no dock, no transfer cable, will try to transfer to other phone then send it via BT or IR later. It's just amazing things that these ppl at XDA Developers come out with amazed by what a malaysian developed last time, the exact iphone interface alike. Added on June 2, 2007, 2:15 amtransferred it to my xda IIi but not working yet This post has been edited by youngkies: Jun 2 2007, 02:15 AM |
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Jun 2 2007, 02:40 AM
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sorry r fellow pros..me noob noob..
da multi touch tech demoed..da iphone has the same capabilities.. i mean other den being able to sense more den 1 touch? |
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jun 2 2007, 02:40 AM) sorry r fellow pros..me noob noob.. the touchscreen technology used in iphone is called multitouch. basically it is just a name to make it stands out more, sound more better etc. da multi touch tech demoed..da iphone has the same capabilities.. i mean other den being able to sense more den 1 touch? they named it multitouch because basically 1. you use finger rather than stylus, 2. you can use two fingers esp for the pinch, zoom features etc. This post has been edited by youngkies: Jun 3 2007, 10:33 PM |
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Watch this, slide2unlock in action on my XDAIIi.
iPhone wannabe http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/users/civ...ne%20XDAIIi.mov And this, iContact wannabe http://www.malsingmaps.com/forum/users/civic98/iContact.mov This post has been edited by civic98: Jun 2 2007, 11:05 PM |
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Jun 4 2007, 03:25 PM
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is that worldwide release? or US only? i hope the price will be as nice as the phone itself.
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Jun 4 2007, 04:25 PM
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US release only and only from AT&T with a minimum 2 year contract. Apple seems kinda picky and I guess it's because they want to ensure the best product experience possible. Expect europe release early next year. Don't know when it's gonna get here tho.
Btw pricing's bout $500- which actually comes to a high end N series phone. And the N-series is waaay out of the iPhone's league |
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Jun 4 2007, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(nouras @ Jun 4 2007, 04:25 PM) US release only and only from AT&T with a minimum 2 year contract. Apple seems kinda picky and I guess it's because they want to ensure the best product experience possible. Expect europe release early next year. Don't know when it's gonna get here tho. we'll probably get some imports here in Malaysia (once they figure out how to remove sim lock Btw pricing's bout $500- which actually comes to a high end N series phone. And the N-series is waaay out of the iPhone's league ) for around RM 2000 because i think the price is actually more around $600 US... i dont agree with you about the N series being better than the iPhone!!!!! This post has been edited by groucho: Jun 4 2007, 04:30 PM |
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Jun 4 2007, 04:36 PM
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N series not better den the iphone??
oh my..u muz b jkg..everything is better..its technology, its OS, its capabilities..hehe.. da oni thing whcih is not as nice is its price..keke |
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Jun 4 2007, 04:42 PM
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"And the N-series is waaay out of the iPhone's league"
As in the iPhone is in it's own league- definitely better than the N series This post has been edited by nouras: Jun 4 2007, 04:44 PM |
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Jun 4 2007, 07:56 PM
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So iPhone by now is just from AT&T. No chance to have it without any contract. Arghhhh my sis will be at US from June until Aug. Taught of asking her to buy one for me.
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Jun 4 2007, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(jehutyz @ Jun 4 2007, 07:56 PM) So iPhone by now is just from AT&T. No chance to have it without any contract. Arghhhh my sis will be at US from June until Aug. Taught of asking her to buy one for me. Well depends how desperate you are really get a 2 year contract and bring back the phone when she comes back lol.. not only is it gonna be an expensive affair paying bills for 2 years and on top of that you also gonna have crack your head on how to get the sim lock off hehe and if I'm not mistaken i read somewhere that iPhones in the US market ONLY supports the US gsm band- not really sure bout that. If the phone is still useable without the simcard, hey least you'd be the only one in Malaysia with a touch-screen 8gb iPod which can surf the net |
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Jun 4 2007, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE(nouras @ Jun 4 2007, 09:59 PM) Well depends how desperate you are really Yeah that also my consent of can it be used when i bring it back. get a 2 year contract and bring back the phone when she comes back lol.. not only is it gonna be an expensive affair paying bills for 2 years and on top of that you also gonna have crack your head on how to get the sim lock off hehe and if I'm not mistaken i read somewhere that iPhones in the US market ONLY supports the US gsm band- not really sure bout that. If the phone is still useable without the simcard, hey least you'd be the only one in Malaysia with a touch-screen 8gb iPod which can surf the net Hahaha im not that rich yet. Wait for the best.......... 3G iPhone maybe soon hahaha. |
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Jun 5 2007, 01:11 AM
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after seeing the new TV ads, my poison for iphone has come back...
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Jun 5 2007, 01:31 AM
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Same here, actually I have no intention at all on buying iPhone but after watched the new 3 ads... iPhone is such an ideal and interesting device to grab!
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Jun 5 2007, 01:41 AM
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yea... compared to other phones at the same price, i lost interest in the iphone.. but after watching the new ads, i want one...
steve jobs really knows how to sell his products.. haha |
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Jun 5 2007, 03:44 AM
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QUOTE with a price of US$499 for the 4 GB model and US$599 for the 8 GB model, based on a two-year service contract. Apple has also announced plans to make the iPhone available in Europe and Japan at a later date. QUOTE Apple received FCC approval for the iPhone on May 17, 2007. Jobs announced that the iPhone will first be available in late June 2007 in the U.S., during the fourth quarter 2007 in Europe, and in 2008 for Asia, Mexico and probably the rest of Latin America. next year still got long way to goThis post has been edited by kei: Jun 5 2007, 03:45 AM |
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Jun 5 2007, 04:05 AM
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fu yoh ...
i cannot afford it , but i love it so much . i have a macbook n i feel that ... steve is damn good for making the OS feels alive .. i used to play with my friend's pda .. it feels nothing ... not alive . well , i keep my words on the touchscreen keyboard . as what i have experience on touchscreen phone ... the keyboard is one studpid thing ... it is so hard to use . i rather use keypad . |
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Jun 5 2007, 09:51 AM
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i'm not a MAC user, never use it before..
i wonder this iPhone is user friendly for person like me or not? Since it's based on Mac OS |
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Jun 5 2007, 02:14 PM
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they lay out will be different abit .
i dont think it will be non-user friendly . for the OSX , u have to try it for 1 week to know that it is easy to use . ... when u get used to it , then it is user friendly . nokia user wll say SE susah , SE will say nokia susah . once u get used , easy for both . |
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Jun 5 2007, 02:25 PM
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...and when you buy any Macs, there are no user manuals.
About iPhone, please read this and something that you didn't know. What the iPhone commercials tell us |
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Jun 5 2007, 04:13 PM
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Fu yoh...
iphone will come out end of tis month in US of America... Can't wait 4 them 2 travsport 2 Asia by next year liao... |
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Jun 5 2007, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jun 5 2007, 02:25 PM) ...and when you buy any Macs, there are no user manuals. I wonder which Mac you bought doesn't come with manuals: http://www.apple.com/support/manuals/ About iPhone, please read this and something that you didn't know. What the iPhone commercials tell us |
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Jun 5 2007, 08:28 PM
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Ummm RM2400 and RM3100 big difference le.
29th June US realease. Sigh, can't get it. Guess I gotta wait. |
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Jun 5 2007, 08:48 PM
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But i dun think Malaysia version got GPRS...
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Jun 5 2007, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Jun 5 2007, 04:53 PM) I mean the 'How To Use OSX' . It's so easy to use till there's no full manual for that. But the Help menu feature inside is very useful for guidance. |
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Jun 5 2007, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE(wei @ Jun 5 2007, 04:53 PM) i think he's trying to say that it doesn't come with a HARDCOPY manual.they are all online.. and to go online, u need a PC... which is also needed to do anything and everything that is related to your iphone. |
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Jun 5 2007, 10:00 PM
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I havn't seen any looking for guide on how to use OSX. it's pretty strait forward. very graphic oriented. |
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Jun 6 2007, 12:54 AM
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QUOTE(KeonG118 @ Jun 5 2007, 09:51 AM) i'm not a MAC user, never use it before.. i wonder this iPhone is user friendly for person like me or not? Since it's based on Mac OS QUOTE(wei @ Jun 5 2007, 10:00 PM) I havn't seen any looking for guide on how to use OSX. it's pretty strait forward.very graphic oriented. Added on June 6, 2007, 12:55 amIf OSX on computer platform is easy and user friendly, iPhone will be a piece of cake to understand and use the GUI easily. This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jun 6 2007, 12:55 AM |
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Jun 6 2007, 08:23 PM
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indeed .
maybe you should try out macbook for 1 week then u will understand . c'mon ... do you get user manual for using windows ? |
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Jun 6 2007, 08:38 PM
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The iPhone aside, a switcher from Windows to OS X will almost definitely benefit from having a manual. It's a paradigm shift for most people so let's not scare people away from the benefits of OS X by looking down on people asking for manuals to unlearn their Windows behaviors.
Personally I suggest some of the Missing Manuals series. |
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Jun 7 2007, 05:23 PM
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QUOTE(wayne_chen @ Jun 5 2007, 08:48 PM) But i dun think Malaysia version got GPRS... i think you r referring to GPSGPS - Global Positioning System GPRS - General Packet Radio Service |
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Jun 7 2007, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(izaman @ Jun 7 2007, 06:23 PM) i think you r referring to GPS GPS - Global Positioning System GPRS - General Packet Radio Service Btw, why don't have GPS? N95 already got GPS and malaysia can use it. |
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Jun 7 2007, 06:56 PM
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I don't see iPhone as a GPS phone. It's more of the power application: Google Maps that makes it look like a GPS functioning phone.
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Jun 7 2007, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(nouras @ Jun 4 2007, 04:42 PM) "And the N-series is waaay out of the iPhone's league" aaah. ok i misunderstood you As in the iPhone is in it's own league- definitely better than the N series i agree Added on June 7, 2007, 9:34 pmthere is still hope you us here in msia yet though, apparently it will be available prepaid. therefore import import, unlock and then use with local service provider XD. Added on June 7, 2007, 9:37 pm QUOTE(wayne_chen @ Jun 5 2007, 08:48 PM) But i dun think Malaysia version got GPRS... what "malaysia version" ????????? there are no different versions! apart from different sized of HD !! its probably not even going to be officially released here for a loooooong time. we'll just get imports like always. This post has been edited by groucho: Jun 7 2007, 09:37 PM |
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Jun 8 2007, 01:00 AM
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hmm..do u guys like knw wat da (i) in the iphone stands for..or for any apple products for dat matter?
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Jun 8 2007, 01:22 AM
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iMac, iBook, iPod, iLife, iTunes, iWork, iPhone and much more. What's with all the i's, it's more like Apple's labeling to their product to make it sounds interesting.
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Jun 8 2007, 01:31 AM
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i dun see the iphone as a phone at all..
seriously, its just a glorified ipod.. and knowing that, I STILL WANT ONE !!!! damn.. steve jobs knows how to sell his products.... |
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Jun 8 2007, 01:35 AM
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Can you elaborate on the glorified iPod? Why don't Apple named it as iPod-aPhone? It is a phone, and it's music player is iPod. That's it. They are not gonna use any crappy music player like Nokia and Sony Ericsson do, they'll use back their own creativity and product and upgrade it to even much better than all. You see, Cover Flow feature on iPod in iPhone. The biggest achieve that iPod in iPhone have is touchscreen, so touch your music.
Added on June 8, 2007, 1:35 amOne more thing, the screen is bigger too for you to watch videos on it. This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jun 8 2007, 01:37 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 01:42 AM
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yea.. its a glorified ipod more than a phone..
it has the most basic phone features... quad-gsm, edge... thats it no removable battery.. no expandable memory slot... to me, and i'm sorry iphone fans, its a ipod to rival that creative zen media player or whatever they call it except that its also a phone. i can't believe i'm saying this eventhough i'm one of those crazy ones that want one iphone.... i mean u said it yourself, 1. they dun use a crappy player like nokia and SE 2. cover flow feature 3. bigger screen for videos 4. touch screen to touch music i'm sorry if i'm turning your words but i'm not.. you did type it yourself... and these features, do not make it a phone... its an ipod, with phone features... and i still want one...... |
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Jun 8 2007, 01:43 AM
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What I mean is something new.
Added on June 8, 2007, 1:46 amDo you own an iPod btw? If you do, you'll understand why the battery's are not so easily removable. It's because it's embedded together with the hardware, so no mess around the edges and sides to make it look beautiful/cleaner and sleeker. Most MP3 players out the in the market does not have expandable slot, all are fixed. From 1GB-80GB. You name it. That's how flash player works. This post has been edited by Mike3300: Jun 8 2007, 01:46 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 01:50 AM
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lol.. i know what u mean...
but seriously, when u do look at it from a consumer standpoint for it to be a mobile phone, it really isn't much of a mobile phone compared to what nokia or SE has accomplished... but if u look at it as a media player, ITS GREAT !!!! but when u weight the features of the iphone, between multimedia and being a mobile phone, the weightage goes more to it being a multimedia device... more to it being a glorified ipod.. and not to say it can do stuff a windows mobile PDA phone can do. Those are basically a mobile desktop. the Iphone, really doesn't have much going for it other than its enchanced ipod experience and doubling as a phone, plus the damn coool design and interface. Which is enough to drag buyers in.... including me... and since its US, the most exposed phone to them is motorola... that is their benchmark of phones which explains the iphone... in US, it makes perfect sense.. but elsewhere, it really doesn't because we have such a huge market with phone capable of doing much more PHONE related stuff. u guys can flame me but this is seriously my two cents on the iphone... given that i have the money, i would buy it. i really would.. but if i had the money to choose only an iphone or a pda phone, i think i would be better off with a pda phone Added on June 8, 2007, 1:51 amyea i have an ipod.. i know how its like.... lol.... and once again, u said it, they design the iphone based on the knowledge they have on the ipod.. sleek edges, compact design... people say its either love or hate.. i love and hate the iphone at the same time... This post has been edited by MoNnY: Jun 8 2007, 02:01 AM |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:12 AM
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2007, 01:50 AM) lol.. i know what u mean... I am quite agree with you actually.but seriously, when u do look at it from a consumer standpoint for it to be a mobile phone, it really isn't much of a mobile phone compared to what nokia or SE has accomplished... but if u look at it as a media player, ITS GREAT !!!! but when u weight the features of the iphone, between multimedia and being a mobile phone, the weightage goes more to it being a multimedia device... more to it being a glorified ipod.. and not to say it can do stuff a windows mobile PDA phone can do. Those are basically a mobile desktop. the Iphone, really doesn't have much going for it other than its enchanced ipod experience and doubling as a phone, plus the damn coool design and interface. Which is enough to drag buyers in.... including me... and since its US, the most exposed phone to them is motorola... that is their benchmark of phones which explains the iphone... in US, it makes perfect sense.. but elsewhere, it really doesn't because we have such a huge market with phone capable of doing much more PHONE related stuff. u guys can flame me but this is seriously my two cents on the iphone... given that i have the money, i would buy it. i really would.. but if i had the money to choose only an iphone or a pda phone, i think i would be better off with a pda phone Added on June 8, 2007, 1:51 amyea i have an ipod.. i know how its like.... lol.... and once again, u said it, they design the iphone based on the knowledge they have on the ipod.. sleek edges, compact design... people say its either love or hate.. i love and hate the iphone at the same time... But then, phone is just to make calls what. What makes a phone interesting is the multimedia features. You see, what are people seeking for when buying phones? The multimedia features! MP3, movie playback, camera, etc. Very few who would use GPRS to surf. Nowadays, a phone is no longer just a phone. All phones selling currently are having these multimedia features and i dont see why shouldn't. Being the iPhone running with OS X is a plus, just almost going to like smart phone. So, what would actually "PHONE" related stuffs are ? |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:29 AM
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goooood one..
lol... quite speechless already... phone related stuff, removable battery, expandable memory.. all these are very much liked... freedom to use the expandable memory not only in your phone but other devices.. also, like the iphone, everything has to be done through your computer... which if u are on holiday, and wiht no laptop, can be quite a pain.. but u see, it goes back to my main point... its just a glorified ipod.. the multimedia features, are ipod features... its the same like a pda phone.. its basically a normal pda, an organizer, but with added phone features... basically, yea its an ipod with phone functionality in the same way a PDA phone is a PDA wiht phone functionality... the thing that annoys me is that the features are lagging behind phones produced outside of US like 3g and a front camera. |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:34 AM
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2007, 02:29 AM) goooood one.. i guess the only phone related stuff should be the battery lol... quite speechless already... phone related stuff, removable battery, expandable memory.. all these are very much liked... freedom to use the expandable memory not only in your phone but other devices.. also, like the iphone, everything has to be done through your computer... which if u are on holiday, and wiht no laptop, can be quite a pain.. but u see, it goes back to my main point... its just a glorified ipod.. the multimedia features, are ipod features... its the same like a pda phone.. its basically a normal pda, an organizer, but with added phone features... basically, yea its an ipod with phone functionality in the same way a PDA phone is a PDA wiht phone functionality... the thing that annoys me is that the features are lagging behind phones produced outside of US like 3g and a front camera. since memory could be said multimedia features also yes, but i think we should make further comments on iPhone after some users get their hand on it at the US. There is rumors where iPhone might be 3G when reaching here which is 2008 who knows ? |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:36 AM
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problem is, does Jobs realise that his product will be sold at places that aren't America ? where we have 3G and they don't ? where we have much more phones that can do much more ?
if he does, then there is hope for the 2nd Gen iphone... pray he does make it happen.... still, they didn't mention when in 2008 |
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Jun 8 2007, 02:48 AM
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2007, 02:36 AM) problem is, does Jobs realise that his product will be sold at places that aren't America ? where we have 3G and they don't ? where we have much more phones that can do much more ? if he didn't realise that the product wont be sold at places outside America, we would be getting at June 29th I guess. I see no point of delaying. if he does, then there is hope for the 2nd Gen iphone... pray he does make it happen.... still, they didn't mention when in 2008 Unless, they want the US to be the white rats sadly, nothing about when in 2008 |
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Jun 8 2007, 03:02 AM
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LOL, we should burn Apple for the backward-thinking they are. It uses lolGSM, no gps, bigger than my iron and the saddest thing of all is the touch screen. OMG, we had so many phone that are touch sensitive now, I wanna puke. Just look at Prada phone, exactly the same thing. Its all hype people, open your eyes.
And, as soon as it was presented to the media, they promised the gen2? That show them how stupid their "innovation" is. They had to do it, if not people not going to buy the 1st gen. |
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Jun 8 2007, 03:42 AM
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you all think wat is the price in ringgit malaysia...anywant to buy it..i still waiting coming to malaysia so i can sell to u all
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Jun 8 2007, 04:17 AM
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QUOTE(musha01 @ Jun 8 2007, 03:42 AM) you all think wat is the price in ringgit malaysia...anywant to buy it..i still waiting coming to malaysia so i can sell to u all Anyone ? Most of us here wants to get one |
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Jun 8 2007, 10:21 AM
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I just came back from US. 29th only coming out over there. $499 for 4GB $599 for 8GB bedok >> If you hate iPhone so much, just go away. Go to some stupid Nokia or something. The only thing you could argue is about 1st GEn thing. Yes prolly it'll , just like the 1st Gen iPod. The clicked sucked so bad for ppl who had 10,000++ songs. But the thing is, since is based on an OS. Prolly we can update it, instead of relying on newer hardware. |
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Jun 8 2007, 10:28 AM
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QUOTE(MoNnY @ Jun 8 2007, 02:36 AM) problem is, does Jobs realise that his product will be sold at places that aren't America ? where we have 3G and they don't ? where we have much more phones that can do much more ? From what I read, the EDGE chip used is physically a lot smaller than the 3G chip available today, hence they decided to use EDGE for the 1st gen. 3G rollout is far from complete in the US which is most likely the biggest market for this phone. If you listened to Job's keynote however, he mentioned 3G from the start so it'll probably come when the iPhone is rolled out in Europe and Asia where 3G is more pervasive.if he does, then there is hope for the 2nd Gen iphone... pray he does make it happen.... still, they didn't mention when in 2008 There are other design cues that show how American this phone is. The two handed input (think Blackberry rather than kids typing one handed) and visual voice mail (American adults love voice mail, everyone else uses SMS) are unusual outside of the US. Personally I think many people in Europe and Asia are jealous that Americans will for once get the latest & greatest mobile phone technology after outpacing the yanks for decades... |
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Jun 8 2007, 05:07 PM
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ooooo..is there all to the (i) in the Apple products..
hmm..so hv v agreed to classify the iphone as a multimedia device?? its has a really cool design though.. but with such a large touch screen..users will hv to b really really careful.. can u imagine hving to fix the screen after its warranty has expired.. hey wats with the worldwide launch of the iphone.. does it mean in M'sia oso will hv? This post has been edited by d3vilzzzz: Jun 8 2007, 05:07 PM |
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Jun 8 2007, 05:10 PM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jun 8 2007, 05:07 PM) ooooo..is there all to the (i) in the Apple products.. Yes, early 2008.hmm..so hv v agreed to classify the iphone as a multimedia device?? its has a really cool design though.. but with such a large touch screen..users will hv to b really really careful.. can u imagine hving to fix the screen after its warranty has expired.. hey wats with the worldwide launch of the iphone.. does it mean in M'sia oso will hv? |
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methinks there aren't gonna be a 3G version. Probably just jump from EDGE to WiMax.
And, is there even a lubang for you to put ur sim carD? Malaysian users don't get your hopes up yet, since its exclusive to AT&T in the US, they might have a built in SIM or something. For those who thinks there are already existing products that trumps this, we'll have to wait and see how smooth the OS flows. Personally i am more interested in the web browsing WIFI capability. |
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Jun 8 2007, 08:41 PM
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Yes, there is gonna be SIM card slot inside the back cover along with the battery, so no easy operation. Probably they'll give telcos on how to do it.
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Jun 8 2007, 10:04 PM
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wanted to get one also.
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Jun 9 2007, 12:00 AM
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methinks, iphone will update before coming malaysia. But, oh well im gettin one with ATT anyway
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Jun 9 2007, 03:48 AM
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QUOTE(FoX^ @ Jun 8 2007, 08:20 PM) methinks there aren't gonna be a 3G version. Probably just jump from EDGE to WiMax. You're wrong. I read from a magazine called Mac Home, that Apple will be releasing a new iPhone with 3G for Europe and Asia. As we're waiting longer than current US citizens who are waiting till end of the month.And, is there even a lubang for you to put ur sim carD? Malaysian users don't get your hopes up yet, since its exclusive to AT&T in the US, they might have a built in SIM or something. For those who thinks there are already existing products that trumps this, we'll have to wait and see how smooth the OS flows. Personally i am more interested in the web browsing WIFI capability. QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jun 9 2007, 03:48 AM) u getting 1 frm ATT?? No problem dude.hmm..meaning u needs to unlock?? but i tot we had unlocking issues here..forumers say here maybe can't unlock... 2008..hmm..i wonders hw hw much.. thanks mike btw for the enlightenment..hehehe |
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Jun 9 2007, 05:02 PM
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Hmm just read that it does indeed have a sim tray.
Anyway, theres a huge 3G gg-fied recently in US. A lot of 3G stuff are affected by it, and if President Bush choose to embargo one company's 3G technology the whole 3G market in the US could be crippled. iPhone is not affected tho, they can still implement the 3G later as the company they are working with holds the rightful patent. If most of the market is crippled, i doubt the carriers will work on 3G coverage in the near future. That's why i think iPhone will skip the 3G. But there may be 3G versions for export, although i dont think its been in apple's history to have such significant spec difference for different regions. |
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Jun 9 2007, 05:19 PM
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QUOTE(FoX^ @ Jun 9 2007, 06:02 PM) Hmm just read that it does indeed have a sim tray. It should have sim tray. How on earth if it doesn't has one? then, how to make call? Anyway, theres a huge 3G gg-fied recently in US. A lot of 3G stuff are affected by it, and if President Bush choose to embargo one company's 3G technology the whole 3G market in the US could be crippled. iPhone is not affected tho, they can still implement the 3G later as the company they are working with holds the rightful patent. If most of the market is crippled, i doubt the carriers will work on 3G coverage in the near future. That's why i think iPhone will skip the 3G. But there may be 3G versions for export, although i dont think its been in apple's history to have such significant spec difference for different regions. |
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Jun 9 2007, 06:34 PM
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hmm..sure r need sim tray..
u can't open up da back as its battery is embedded.. heheh |
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Jun 10 2007, 05:15 PM
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this is from engadget, and should clear up some speculation and rumors that have been flying around.......
lots of comments have been made in this thread with no proof, here's whay we do know from a leaked training manual.Here's some dirt that's sure to heat up the iPhone debates over the next 20 days. According to alleged scans from the "iPhone Sales Training Workbook," we're seeing a vast array of features that we were already fully aware of, but here's the skinny on what you may have not known until now: * No one-touch dialing (two touches at a minimum) * Vibrate mode is included * Voice dialing is not mentioned as a feature, though it's not specifically excluded either * Users can have a voice conversation whilst browsing the web "when WiFi access is available" * iPhone users will not be able to conduct IM conversations with instant messaging users * Emailing videos and pictures are a go, MMS is not supported * MEdia Mail won't be used for ringtone and answertone downloads * MEdia Net, MobiTV, and Cellular Video are (unsurprisingly) not available for the iPhone * iTunes will sync iPhone with the Address Book on Macs or Outlook/Outlook Expess on PCs * No GPS or TeleNav support, sorry Google hopefuls Of note, it seems that AT&T and / or Apple has conjured up a few canned, customer responses that point out the obvious shortcomings of Apple's handset, so do click on to see what you're up against. Update: It's worth pointing out that only 15 of at least 33 pages have been published so far. Alright, so we're sure just about everyone has a bone to pick with Apple's first stab at a mobile phone, but it seems like many of these quibbles have already been recognized and accounted for. Namely, it appears that the Apple is already aware that some potential buyers will be clamoring for more than 8GB of onboard storage, yet the recommended "solution" is just a runaround about keeping your excess data stored in iTunes until you absolutely need it (gee, thanks). Furthermore, a blurb concerning the on-screen keyboard for customers used to "real buttons" lends even more legitimacy to the worries that have cropped up already around this questionable "feature." Lastly, don't think the selling agents will act surprised when you question the lack of integrated GPS. They are pre-programmed with a response of "thanks for the feedback, we'll let Apple know of your interest" which insinuates that someone at Cupertino is fully aware of how beneficial this would be (in a second generation?). Interestingly, Cindynjgirl79 (the source of these leaks) claims to have acquired this information while not being employed by either AT&T or Apple, but we can't help but question the outrightness of her actions which includes posting a picture of herself holding the manual and stamping her email address on every scanned page. Of course, it would certainly be quite the feat if every single scan here was faked, but you can never ignore that minute possibility. So, now that you're in the know, feel free to sound off in comments. Added on June 10, 2007, 8:56 pm  This post has been edited by groucho: Jun 10 2007, 08:56 PM |
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Jun 11 2007, 10:24 AM
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Oh my god! Thanks groucho!
But no GPS doesn't really effect M'sia in particular. I mean, what are we going to use GPS for? I don't see the point in it. I'm surprised MMS is not supported though. Since it's mostly pictures, gifs and rich text. Strange. Hmm already knew about the talking while surfing and and vib mode.... Anyways, lets see what US ppl have to say about it. ONly 18 more days to US launch. |
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Jun 11 2007, 03:59 PM
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QUOTE(Rithrade @ Jun 11 2007, 10:24 AM) Oh my god! Thanks groucho! But no GPS doesn't really effect M'sia in particular. I mean, what are we going to use GPS for? I don't see the point in it. i agree with the GPS, there are no maps at the moment that are any good! |
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Jun 11 2007, 05:26 PM
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Hmm, for the price it's plenty good already. And i think the iphone wont update as often as other phone/smartphones.
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Jun 11 2007, 09:36 PM
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QUOTE(groucho @ Jun 11 2007, 03:59 PM) i agree with the GPS, there are no maps at the moment that are any good! Besides, GPS is not just for mapping. Geocaching, while small is a popular past time in Europe and US. I have a friend who's promoting Malaysia as a travel destination to these people and all the better for him if he had the iPhone as another gadget Seriously though I'm still wondering where they put the SIM card. Most phones I know have it under the battery, and given that the iPhone doesn't have a user swappable battery, plus Apple's penchant for not putting slots where they're not needed, I wonder where the SIM slot/tray is and whether it's even user accessible? |
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Jun 11 2007, 09:48 PM
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tishaban,
No worries. Wait a few more hours and the details will be all out... |
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Jun 11 2007, 09:57 PM
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QUOTE(tishaban @ Jun 11 2007, 09:36 PM) Malsingmaps has a very good Malaysian map, the road details are every bit as good as the commercial Garmin maps I've used in the US & Europe. Have you even used a GPS in Malaysia? evening, I wonder where the SIM slot/tray is and whether it's even user accessible? yes i have used a GPS here but dont find it overly useful. Apple can't use the malsing maps, they're not commercial. the ones sold with those holux stand alone units are not that good, so if they used those the GPS would have no coverage and b pretty bad. also, GPS is not really a move sensible either. think about it. if they want to release a worldwide standard unifying, everywhere the same product. GPS is too inconsistent to fit into the package. GPS would complicate things immensely as they would have to make a different build of software for like every country. not to mention drain even more battery life. and another thing, most countries don't even have their own GPS maps. think about the iPod, popularity because of simplicity and style! the already fancy iPhone does not need another feature to complicate things. it looks good as it is, and the package fits well together. it just doesn't make sense, it's not the way apple do things. apple are making a simple product which should be the same everywhere so it's cheaper and easier to produce and simple to use/buy/sell, its not as simple as just "adding GPS" even if there are good maps. This post has been edited by groucho: Jun 11 2007, 09:59 PM |
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Jun 12 2007, 01:20 AM
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GPS oso no need maps 1 mer..
gps uses satelites and receieves..u dun need to dl any maps/ maps software or anything like dat.. u b surprise r..many many ppl use gps as part of their daily routines nowadays.. |
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Jun 12 2007, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ Jun 12 2007, 01:20 AM) GPS oso no need maps 1 mer.. Friend, GPS gives you coordinates, you won't know where you are if you don't have a map to refer to, you need maps, constantly updated maps. You will need hardware + software + map.gps uses satelites and receieves..u dun need to dl any maps/ maps software or anything like dat.. u b surprise r..many many ppl use gps as part of their daily routines nowadays.. I've been using GPS on my pda for some time now, with Malsingmaps. But in the end, GPS works nicely on a pda or pdaphone, but not a mobile phone. Take Nokia N95 for example, it has built in GPS, but it's terribly slow. If you have used GPS for navigation driving before, you will realize that updating speed is very important. This post has been edited by civic98: Jun 12 2007, 01:42 AM |
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Jun 12 2007, 09:55 AM
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Which brings me back to the point, I think it's going to be an underused feature, ESP in M'sia.
I've mates coming over here and complaining that it's so slow. But I've never been over Amelika to find out how fast their service is. Sigh, still got 2 digits of days left. Faster la. |
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Jun 12 2007, 10:15 PM
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oooooooo...ic ic..
haihz..sometimes damn confusing r... hmm..so wats v da built in GPS?? do u still softaware whcih hv maps?? |
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Jun 12 2007, 10:59 PM
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QUOTE(groucho @ Jun 11 2007, 09:57 PM) evening, I wasn't exactly arguing that a GPS should be built into the iPhone, more like the use of a GPS in the iPhone shouldn't be discounted altogether. I agree with you that Apple will never put a GPS into any iPhone simply because the want the simplicity. However don't discount the features the iPhone already has. The 3.5" screen of the iPhone is reasonably large enough for a GPS screen (my Nuvi is 3.5" for example) and the automatic portrait/landscape sensor will be very useful on a GPS.yes i have used a GPS here but dont find it overly useful. Apple can't use the malsing maps, they're not commercial. the ones sold with those holux stand alone units are not that good, so if they used those the GPS would have no coverage and b pretty bad. [...] apple are making a simple product which should be the same everywhere so it's cheaper and easier to produce and simple to use/buy/sell, its not as simple as just "adding GPS" even if there are good maps. The mashups of Google Maps & GeoIP locations is just an indicator of what's possible today, imagine what can be done with more accurate locations. I think the Nuvi 680 is a step in the right direction, but with a bit more thought put into it, I think Apple can do it better. |
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Jun 13 2007, 01:11 AM
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iPhone arrives on June 29. iPhone features an amazing mobile phone, is the best iPod we've ever created, and puts the Internet in your pocket with desktop-class email, web browsing, searching, and maps. And iPhone makes it all easy to use with its revolutionary multi-touch user interface. iPhone syncs with your PC or Mac just like an iPod, so organizing your content now will help you start calling, texting, emailing, surfing, listening, and watching even faster when you get your iPhone. Here are a few suggestions to help you get ready:
Making a call with iPhone is as simple as tapping a name. You won't need to re-enter all your contacts because iPhone syncs with the address book you already use on your computer-Address Book or Entourage on a Mac, or Outlook or Outlook Express on a PC. If you keep your contacts on the web using Yahoo! Address Book, iPhone can sync with them, too. To get ready for iPhone, organize your contacts in one of these applications and make sure they're up to date with the latest phone numbers and email addresses. If you don't have contacts on your computer, don't worry. You can still enter them directly into iPhone. Using its built-in calendar, iPhone lets you check your appointments with the flick of a finger. iPhone uses iTunes to sync with the calendar application you already use on your computer-iCal or Entourage on the Mac, or Outlook on a PC-just like it does with your contacts. If you don't already use one of these applications to manage your appointments, now is a great time to start, so you'll be ready to sync when your iPhone arrives. If you choose not to use a calendar program, that's OK. You'll be able to enter appointments directly into the iPhone calendar. iPhone is the first phone to come with a desktop-class email application. So now your phone can display rich HTML email with graphics and photos alongside the text. iPhone will even fetch your latest email every time you open the application and automatically retrieve your email on a set schedule, just like a computer does. iPhone works with the most popular email systems-including Yahoo! Mail, Gmail, AOL, and .Mac Mail. If you're not already using one of these services, now would be a great time to get an account. iTunes will make email setup on iPhone a breeze by automatically syncing the settings from email accounts stored in Mail on a Mac or Outlook on a PC. Don't worry if you're not on one of these email services; iPhone also works with almost any industry-standard POP3 and IMAP email system. iPhone has a 2-megapixel camera and a gorgeous 3.5-inch display, so it's a great way to enjoy and show off your digital photos. iPhone uses iTunes to sync your photos from iPhoto on a Mac or Adobe Photoshop Elements, Adobe Photoshop Album, or any picture folder on a PC. You can carry thousands of photos on iPhone, but you can start by creating an album or two with 50 to 100 of your favorite photos, so that when you first sync your iPhone, you'll be ready to quickly show off some of your best shots. iPhone is the best iPod ever. Its beautiful, 3.5-inch widescreen display allows you to easily enjoy the music, TV shows, and movies you have in your iTunes library. If you already use iTunes, you can start getting ready for iPhone by creating a playlist of a few hundred of your favorite songs. If you don't have iTunes, now is a good time to download it and start a music and video library. That way, when you sync your iPhone with iTunes, you'll be able to take your favorite music, as well as a few of your TV shows and movies, with you wherever you go. To set up your iPhone, you'll need an account with Apple's iTunes Store. If you already have an iTunes account, make sure you know your account name and password. If you don't have an account, you should set one up now to save time later. To set up an account, launch iTunes, select the iTunes Store, and click the Sign In button in the upper right corner of iTunes. Sign in and you're ready to go. Source This post has been edited by harmeet15: Jun 13 2007, 01:13 AM |
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Jun 13 2007, 01:15 AM
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No MMS, 3G, GPS, 2MB Cam, No Flash/Java Support for a could-be RM3K phone. I'd think about it.
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