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post Jan 11 2007, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Jan 11 2007, 11:23 AM)
imagine this... 1 month after iPhone hits the market... watch out for the Made in China 'aiPhone' that's totally identical, very much cheaper but comes with 256 & 512MB memory variant. laugh.gif but not sure what OS though.
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Dude, there already is one. It's black and looks like an iPod nano. Mostly looks like sh*t la. But it was over at IPMart.com. I captured the screen and sent an email to Steve @ Apple before MacWorld. No reply though. The site seemed to have removed the link though, so good luck finding it. They branded it Apple iPhone, and sometimes with an 'l' at the end of iPhone. Prolly to keep Apple lawyers from suing.

Heh.

China is such a crappy, unoriginal place. They copy, mass market and sell things cheaply. But that's basically it, cheap and crap. Sorry for the rant.
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post Jan 11 2007, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(shaznizzle @ Jan 11 2007, 02:33 PM)
Made for its own kind

I believe iPhone did not live to the Phone Industry standards. Its a GREAT device, trust me... I'm loving it... However, they fail to realize that it is a phone. Thus the iPhone is more of a 'Media Player' such as a Internet Browser and Music/Photos/Video Player. So its a Media Player built-in phone.

With the lack of the main high-end specifications, such as the obvious 3G, GPS, External Memory Card and a VGA internal camera. All these features cannot be upgraded as it requires hardware installation.

Some of you may or already did mention some lack of software features, such, Voice Recognition, Hand Writing Recognition, Java/ Flash Games and Applications, Office applications (Word, Excel, PDF, etc). I am not to worry about this, with an OS X in a phone, all this can be upgraded with future firmware or installation.

Thus this applies to my statement of iPhone being a more of a Media Player/iPod built-in phone, than a Phone built-in Media Player/iPod. From a statement from Mr Steve Jobs, "a phone at least 5 years ahead of the current phones," I agree in terms of software and OS only.. that is far as it goes. Whereas hardware wise, I can sadly say, they are atleast 5 years behind time.

Without 3G and Internal VGA camera, Video Calls (iChat) is out of the picture. For security, they can implement Face Recognition which my phone already have... which i bought nearly a year ago at 05, so that too is out of the picture. Interesting enough, Mr Steve Jobs did not even showed us a demo of how the 2MP camera works, yes maybe what he is holding is still a prototype, but since when does he hold and presents a prototype one might asked. Why? Not a good idea, because it may not be as good as the already high-end phones such Nokia Carl-Zeiss or SonyEriccson Cyber Shot phones?? Wait.. no Optical Zoom, for a phone that is 5 years ahead of its time? From the back, its just a tiny pin hole for a 2MP camera... the only pin hole camera size that can be that small and fit into a slim body is a VGA camera, that now is mainly found in the internal camera of a 3G phone that can be use as Video Calls. How can that be a 2MP camera?? Upscaled??

Still on the statement made by Mr Steve Jobs, such security mention above are not made for the iPhone, another security might be a finger print recognition that is already out in the market in Japan.. yes its a phone but he also did mention 5 years of its time.. maybe a software can be made for one to place its thumb on the Multi-Touch screen.. thats another Patent for you Mr Steve Jobs to add on the 200 Patents you already made on iPhone.

With all this disadvantages mention, would one buy an iPhone? I would, not because its an Apple. Its because they did Reinvented the phone, in its unique design and how a phone works. It is 1st of its kind, thus its is incomparable with any phone that is out in the market. Its not a Smart phone, not a PDA phone and not a phone. Its a whole new  kind of phone. Its an iPhone.
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That's quite an insightful comment shaznizzle. I share the same feelings. Where software and user interface is concerned, it's miles ahead of the competition, but where actual phone hardware and features, there are a lot of deficiencies. A Sony Ericsson would seriously kick the iPhone's ass (with buttons and all!). Having said that, it is still a cool phone/mediaplayer hybrid. And knowing Apple, this is only the beginning. Expect the next 6-12 months to be VERY VERY interesting.
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post Jan 11 2007, 05:21 PM

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Sorry guys, I just got mine. Don't jeles-jeles!

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post Jan 11 2007, 10:12 PM

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There was speculation before the iPhone came out that it would be called iMobile due to the publicised Cisco iPhone product release.
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post Jan 12 2007, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(sauying @ Jan 12 2007, 09:51 AM)
any idea of built in Stereo Speaker ???
inside got or not ?
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The speakers are located at the bottom, side by side with the dock connector. The iPhone comes with an Apple bluetooth headset if I am not mistaken. Looks a lot like a Sony one.
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post Jan 12 2007, 12:19 PM

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hi allvin,

check the iPhone specs... i think it does
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post Jan 16 2007, 01:58 PM

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Speculated specs of the iPhone is that it's running a Samsung ARM processor and not Intel. The graphics cheap is from NVIDIA.

I believe 'OS X' as Steve Jobs mentioned isn't the same as Mac OS X as used on Mac desktops and portables. The iPhone OS X could be an Mac OS X-flavored separate OS. Not sure if it's a whole new platform but definitely the same as the Mac OS X we've come to love and use daily.
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post Jan 17 2007, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(H4RRY @ Jan 17 2007, 12:39 AM)
They mentioned OS X probably because it will run on Darwin, the UNIX variant underneath OS X. A stripped down Darwin with a custom interface is what i think. UNIX...*drools* Can hack become Linux.
Why would you wanna install Linux? Mac OS X is a far more matured OS in terms of usability and elegance. I do know of iPodLinux projects though.

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post Jan 20 2007, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(Mike3300 @ Jan 20 2007, 11:33 AM)
The iPhone has not hit the stores yet, but there are some companies already started to make their accessories. I wonder does iPhone comes with a screen protector or a case for protection.

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That's a really ugly casing. Eww.
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post Jan 22 2007, 02:32 PM

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It's not that Apple is not allowing 3rd party apps altogether. It's a quality issue. Developers would need to go through Apple's strict UI and quality guidelines before they can be considered for the iPhone. And since Apple themselves are GREAT software developers. Keeping it a closed platform has its advantages.
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post Jan 24 2007, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(krux @ Jan 22 2007, 02:55 PM)
The iPhone is following the model set forth by current iPods where third party games are commissioned by Apple.
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Yes that's accurate. The reason being Apple can set guidelines and control quality of the 3rd party products. It's a good thing. You won't want you iPhone/iPod crashing on ya, would you?
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post Jan 24 2007, 12:47 PM

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I think Flight Mode is a great idea.
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post Feb 26 2007, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(MacDaNife @ Jan 31 2007, 11:41 AM)
When Steve Jobs adressed the crowd at Macworld SF, he stated that they have been working on the iPhone for the past TWO YEARS. I captialized that because that's going to be the entire point of my post.

Apple does things differently from most manufacturers. It does ZERO market research, it employs ZERO product acceptance evaluations. It however spends an incredible ammount of time (TWO YEARS) making sure the user interface is as natural and intuitive as possible. The mantra at Apple is not so much "Think Different" but rather "Think like Steve".

Therefore while other companies are going to come up with phones that outperform the iPhone in specs; or look very similar to the iPhone at first glance....

.... NONE of them will come even close to the user-experience/functionality hey, even sexyness of the Apple product.
I'm taking a trip to the States in June and I'll be sure to buy one of these. You can put good money on that...
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That's actually a VERY good description of Apple's mantra, MacDaNife. And I am with you 100% about nothing coming close to user experience and functionality. Looking like something, doesn't mean performing as equal.

I do however wish to digress on your comment about ZERO market research. Apple KNOWS the market. If there is one thing Apple does brilliantly is knowing apart from bringing elegance and beauty to the world, is knowing the market and creating new markets.
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post Feb 26 2007, 12:55 PM

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It's brilliant actually. Simple but you get the point right away. It's a cross between the 'What's Up" Bud's ad and the original "Say Hello to Mac" and "Hello Again" (iMac) ads.

Nice! Very typically Apple!
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post Feb 26 2007, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(azxel @ Feb 26 2007, 12:58 PM)
with all the big hoo haa and lawsuit with the iPhone, why don't they just change the name to 'MacPhone'? laugh.gif I mean, they call the iBook the MacBook now anyway... but 'MacPod' does sound weird.
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MacPhone won't work coz technically it isn't a 'Mac'. I think iPhone is cooler. Altho iMobile could be an alternative, coz it's really MORE than a phone.
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 16 2007, 12:10 PM)
by 2008 will Apple have been working on 2nd Gen?
then if we purchase the iPhone in 2008 and the 2nd Gen releases in 2009 i will commit suicide wei.

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HAHAHAHAHA..yeah, especially after spending like RM2.5K on one.
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post Mar 16 2007, 12:23 PM

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I think it isn't a question of just '3G'. What's the market share of 3G in the US? Japan? Malaysia?

Apple has studied this and decided on the overall best and widest network which is GPRS/EDGE. Like what's been said, the iPhone will fly off the shelves NOT because of the hardware, but the user interface and Apple's strong brand.


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post Mar 16 2007, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(hydrogen @ Mar 16 2007, 12:53 PM)
i wanna hold one.

and touch it.

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So does the majority of us smile.gif
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post Mar 16 2007, 03:02 PM

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QUOTE(tishaban @ Mar 16 2007, 02:52 PM)
One thing that Apple has always been good at is in developing eco-systems for their products. The Mac + OSX + iLife is one, the iPod + the iTunes Store and in the future + the Apple TV is another.

I am waiting to see what the iPhone eco-system is going to be like. It may start out as riding on the iTunes/iPod wave but it's possible that it will branch out on its own. The tie up with Cingular to provide visual voice mail is a hint of what's possible. I can't wait to see what else is in store over the next 12-24 months.

The iPhone will fly off the shelves the moment it is introduced 3G or not. The question now is not whether but how Apple plan to innovate and sustain the initial success.
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A very good comment on 'eco-system'. Apple's an ace with strategy. They know what works and it's like they have one of those 'oracles' to tell them the future. It's a gift.

And yes, it will be interesting how Trojan-like the iPhone is, like the iPod.
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post Jun 1 2007, 11:47 AM

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QUOTE(d3vilzzzz @ May 31 2007, 10:27 PM)
have u guys heard of the next gen iphone to be a multi touch 1?

the multi touch technology was created by Jeff Han..go search his name
up on google..

it seems Apple bought the patent for it n thus they are going to use it in
the next gen iphone///

how true is this?
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Aiyoyo, go read Apple iPhone specs mate!

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