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TSretsmot
post Mar 9 2005, 02:27 PM, updated 21y ago

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This is now the official connection rant thread. If you have any issues/complaints/b****ing/questions/updates and whatnot, please post it in this thread and don't make a new thread for this.



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post Mar 9 2005, 04:00 PM

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hey yea,
it has been lagging since yesterday,

few friends are getting the lag as well
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post Mar 9 2005, 06:09 PM

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On stonemaul server

ping around 1800-2400 ms
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post Mar 9 2005, 06:32 PM

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I change my IP to 218.xxxx problem solved
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post Mar 9 2005, 07:25 PM

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? 218. what?

share abit please. thanks.
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post Mar 9 2005, 10:50 PM

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same here..happened before...it happened to those with ips starting with 219...
what the hell man....this sucks...i've been waiting the whole morning and afternoon for it to get better.

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post Mar 9 2005, 11:07 PM

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uh how do u change the ips?
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post Mar 9 2005, 11:56 PM

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how bout some help throx? teach us how u did it.

didn't play whole day today...2k latency no good.
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post Mar 10 2005, 12:47 AM

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hmm.. to change ur ip.. u need to:
1. disconnect ur modem
2. plug out the phone line
3. connect back
4. if failed, repeat step 1-3 (depends on ur luck.. if no luck, u reconnect 1k times also no use)
5. if still fail, bring gun to tmnet office tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2005, 01:00 AM

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that is benefic of upgrade
latency also upgrade
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So far, each time they have a maintenance, I get this problem and won't be able to play properly the next day. Usually gets better on Thursday though. Really weird. And I thought that I'm the only one since my friends keep telling me that there's no problem. sad.gif

Btw, checked this morning. Its back to normal now.

EDIT: I take back what I said. Got back from work and now its still the same latency...

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post Mar 11 2005, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Tatty @ Mar 10 2005, 04:22 PM)
So far, each time they have a maintenance, I get this problem and won't be able to play properly the next day. Usually gets better on Thursday though. Really weird. And I thought that I'm the only one since my friends keep telling me that there's no problem. sad.gif

Btw, checked this morning. Its back to normal now.

EDIT: I take back what I said. Got back from work and now its still the same latency...
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I did a trace route to WoW login servers. the ping times to the login servers is around 500-600ms, so that shows that out ISP is not the problem.

From what I gathered, the problem lies in WoW server. The lag we're getting originates from their server not our ISP.
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post Mar 12 2005, 11:50 AM

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So its their side. Noticed something after playing it for a whole day.
Latency is only high in the evening up until pass midnight around 1am - 3am. It gets better closer to morning. Kinda explains why its so smooth when I wake up early and play compared to playing it after work.
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post Mar 12 2005, 04:11 PM

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im having a really bad ping to ... about 2 days ago... my ping started to be like 1 k and now its still 1k .. hard to play ler +_+ normal ping oni 400
any way to solve ar
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post Mar 15 2005, 10:15 AM

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Yeah same problem here too, Kelana Jaya area. I'm in Malygos, ping arond 1-2k. Really unplayable sad.gif Most you can do is stay in IF and play the auction house, hehe.
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Still surviving so far. Still can take on 1 on 1 and same level monsters. But I die when I get mobbed and vanish or blind powder is not ready. We'll just have to keep on trying to get that ip that they are talking about above. I'm definitely not going to shut down pc if I do get it... sleep.gif

Either that or you can play early in the morning and during the day. Its only terrible at night it seems, which is usually US working hours.
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post Mar 15 2005, 11:21 PM

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its still 1k-2k range for me now, this sux everyone please call telekom and complain, i already did if more people complain they only might do something.
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post Mar 16 2005, 01:11 AM

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telekom have been continuous disconnecting me today and yesterday. now server maintenence also kena dc from the net. are they trying to ban us WoW fanatic tongue.gif
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post Mar 16 2005, 01:23 AM

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I'm on cenarius... getting 1k + ping for the whole week now. Still manageable though. I suspect it has something to do with our side too, since i've noticed considerable reduction in connection speed while downloading and all.
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post Mar 16 2005, 08:09 AM

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Duno why this 2 days after my work i try log on wow i get 2k-7k ping . yeah 7kping. BUt when i try in morning it is around500+ which is normall for me. I suspect is telekom side bcos when i get highlatency , my bittorent download speed also drop dramatically.

Anyone from subang jaya SS15 having this problem on this 2 night?14 and 15 march.
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I'm getting it here at Desa Petaling and my friend is facing the same problem in Cheras. However, another friend of mine in Subang near SJMC there is not facing any problems. Still trying to get other ips that don't start with 219.xx but to no avail. By the way, what dns are you all using? I'm using the following:

Prefered : 202.188.0.133
Alternate : 202.188.1.5

Its getting really tedious to play with such lag day in and day out.
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QUOTE(Tatty @ Mar 16 2005, 10:42 AM)
I'm getting it here at Desa Petaling and my friend is facing the same problem in Cheras. However, another friend of mine in Subang near SJMC there is not facing any problems. Still trying to get other ips that don't start with 219.xx but to no avail. By the way, what dns are you all using? I'm using the following:

Prefered : 202.188.0.133
Alternate : 202.188.1.5

Its getting really tedious to play with such lag day in and day out.
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same same, using the same IP for both my streamyx, still got the uber 1K ping, last time i check they upgrading/add more port near kelana jaya/shah alam node.. (thats why mine baru upgraded to 1MB)
For cheras streamyx really got bad connection, dsl always blinking, stable sometimes only (a week already no internet), technician guy come also cannot solve, got problem at ibusawat he said. dunno 4 sure. hope they fix soon.

p/s usually i got 218.xx (my 512) nowaday got 219.xx (1MB)..hmmm streamyx 1MB got problem? shakehead.gif
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post Mar 16 2005, 02:11 PM

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For those having bad pings, do the steps listed in the URL below:

Blizzard Support

Some of you might be surprised to find that the bad pings don't come from our ISP end.
Do post your 'tracert' list if you wish for further discussions.


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Thanks. I'll post it here in this post once I get home. smile.gif

Seems terrible....

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.115]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 26 ms 23 ms 24 ms 219.93.218.177

2 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 219.93.216.101

3 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 219.93.155.37

4 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms brf-odsy02-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.2]

5 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 203.106.230.134

6 63 ms 235 ms 226 ms 202.188.126.132

7 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.173.37

8 224 ms 222 ms 223 ms 219.93.153.150

9 731 ms 722 ms 738 ms 12.119.139.37

10 733 ms 728 ms 728 ms tbr1-p013301.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.213]

11 720 ms 724 ms 720 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]

12 702 ms 704 ms 709 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]

13 728 ms 730 ms 732 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]

14 740 ms 744 ms 749 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]

15 * * * Request timed out.

16 * * * Request timed out.

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.



Trace complete.


This post has been edited by Tatty: Mar 16 2005, 07:59 PM
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post Mar 16 2005, 05:58 PM

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Anyone has a list of IP addresses of all the servers? I could set up some monitoring system .. and latency checks.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 16 2005, 11:55 PM

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my side is telekom side..it stopped there...im in cyberjaya using 1 MBps package.

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 <1 ms 1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1

2 233 ms 161 ms 376 ms 219.93.218.177

3 302 ms 405 ms 251 ms 219.93.216.13

4 * * * Request timed out.

5 * * * Request timed out.

6 * * * Request timed out.

7 * * * Request timed out.

8 * * * Request timed out.

9 * * * Request timed out.

10 * * * Request timed out.

11 * * * Request timed out.

12 * * * Request timed out.

13 * * * Request timed out.

14 * * * Request timed out.

15 * * * Request timed out.

16 * * * Request timed out.

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.



Trace complete.


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post Mar 17 2005, 12:35 AM

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i also get request time out but at no. 15. what does this mean? most of it 900 ms......right now damn lag tho.....go in game only 1400ms......sigh......
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post Mar 17 2005, 12:58 AM

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My tracert

C:\>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.112]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 34 ms 27 ms 27 ms 219.93.218.177
3 25 ms 23 ms 26 ms 219.93.216.181
4 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 210.187.143.1
5 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms 210.187.143.5
6 25 ms 27 ms 27 ms 203.106.230.134
7 28 ms 27 ms 25 ms 210.187.129.131
8 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 219.93.173.133
9 226 ms 225 ms 225 ms 219.93.153.150
10 745 ms 749 ms 759 ms 12.119.139.37
11 760 ms 761 ms 756 ms tbr1-p013301.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.213]
12 762 ms 763 ms 757 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
13 763 ms 816 ms 826 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
14 790 ms 793 ms 795 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
15 794 ms 793 ms * mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
46]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
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post Mar 17 2005, 02:47 AM

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why am i the only one whose trace route stops at telekom server ar....is there anything wrong with my connection?
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post Mar 17 2005, 07:11 AM

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From the looks of the tracert listed, it looks like there is some problems with the connections to 12.xxx.xxx.xxx as the pings jumped to 700+ms.

Previously, before Blizzard had to bring like 20 or so realms down for emergency maintanence that lasted 14 hours, the lag started after it hit the login server (*attens.net).

Snowfish, do you have a firewall turned on or something? How are you accessing your internet as I noticed that your 1st IP is a local IP.
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post Mar 17 2005, 10:00 AM

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I restarted my modem last night, and got back <500 ping. IP was still 219.xxx though. Don't know what's going on unsure.gif, but I'm not complaining!
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post Mar 17 2005, 11:01 AM

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Request timed out after the *attens.net is normal according to blizzard as they firewalled it and pings cannot reach them.

flying_dug0ng, can you do a TRACERT and list it here, if you don't mind, so that we can compare? I rebooted mine and I still get 1.5k pings.

I'm on Proudmore server.

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Sure thing, I'll do it tonight after work. Hope won't rain lah, else kana switch off modem sweat.gif

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post Mar 17 2005, 07:45 PM

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here's mine, i live at kelana jaya pj area.

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 17 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 12 ms 9 ms 10 ms 219.93.216.109
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 219.93.155.41
4 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
5 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 210.187.15.254
6 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 202.188.126.132
7 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.173.37
8 212 ms 211 ms 211 ms 219.93.153.150
9 932 ms 929 ms 929 ms 12.119.139.37
10 921 ms 917 ms 925 ms tbr2-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.217]
11 927 ms 918 ms 933 ms gbr5-p20.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.90]
12 927 ms 919 ms 925 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 938 ms 929 ms 934 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
14 939 ms 939 ms 945 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.
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post Mar 17 2005, 09:45 PM

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my bar is always red, gave up checking on the latency.

we need a server nearby!!!
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post Mar 18 2005, 12:06 AM

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Came back home, launched WoW, 2k ping. Modem was on since last night.

Went upstairs, off/on modem, try again. Now <500 ping. My IP is still 219.xxx.


1 * * * Request timed out.
2 26 ms 25 ms 31 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms 219.93.216.189
4 20 ms 21 ms 19 ms 210.187.143.1
5 20 ms 21 ms 19 ms 210.187.143.5
6 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 203.106.230.134
7 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 202.188.126.132
8 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.173.37
9 221 ms 221 ms 221 ms 219.93.153.150
10 230 ms 229 ms 227 ms 12.119.139.37
11 232 ms 231 ms 232 ms tbr2-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.217]
12 231 ms 229 ms 231 ms 12.122.11.94
13 227 ms 229 ms * gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
14 239 ms 239 ms 239 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
15 241 ms 239 ms 240 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.42]
16 * * * Request timed out.


This looks more like my modem overheating than anything else.
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post Mar 18 2005, 07:29 AM

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This is my list as of 18/03 7.30am. I think there is something wrong with our international line to 12.xxx.xxx.xxx.
Yesterday evening when I log on to WoW the ping was acceptable, around 600-700ms. Then it got progressively worse. The time I logged of around 12am, the ping had reached 1.5kms!! hmmmm...


1 38 ms 26 ms 26 ms 219.93.218.177
2 31 ms 24 ms 25 ms 219.93.216.109
3 24 ms 24 ms 23 ms 219.93.155.33
4 24 ms 25 ms 24 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
5 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms 210.187.15.254
6 26 ms 25 ms 25 ms 210.187.129.131
7 24 ms 26 ms 26 ms 219.93.173.133
8 222 ms 221 ms 222 ms 219.93.153.150
9 1184 ms 1184 ms 1180 ms 12.119.139.37
10 1170 ms 1184 ms 1184 ms tbr1-p013301.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.213]
11 1184 ms 1182 ms 1176 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
12 1183 ms 1178 ms 1184 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 1188 ms 1188 ms 1170 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
14 1184 ms 1197 ms 1194 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]
15 * * * Request timed out.
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post Mar 18 2005, 09:00 AM

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Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.110]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 * * * Request timed out.

2 27 ms 25 ms 24 ms 219.93.216.109

3 26 ms 24 ms 25 ms 219.93.155.33

4 30 ms 25 ms 25 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]

5 103 ms 133 ms 113 ms 210.187.15.254

6 25 ms 27 ms 27 ms 210.187.129.131

7 42 ms 28 ms 27 ms 219.93.173.133

8 225 ms 223 ms 225 ms 219.93.153.150

9 1207 ms 1203 ms 1208 ms 12.119.139.37

10 1210 ms 1214 ms 1211 ms tbr2-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.217]

11 1201 ms 1205 ms 1207 ms gbr5-p20.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.90]

12 1206 ms 1204 ms 1208 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]

13 1214 ms 1216 ms 1215 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]

14 1214 ms 1212 ms 1216 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]

15 * * * Request timed out.

16 * * * Request timed out.

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.



Trace complete.



i'm just so freaking bored..latency at 2200++
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I still got the same thing. Though not as bad as yours but I'm seeing 4k latency on my side. This is madness. I'm going to go crazy this weekend. sad.gif
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20/3/05 log:

anyone still lagging? i'm still getting 1500ms average these days.....sigh. wonder when will it be solved... any of u think if i go upgrade my line from 512 to 1mb streamyx package will improve the performance or give me a diffrent set of ip other than the 219.x one?
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latency problem is not resolved for me...
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QUOTE(retsmot @ Mar 20 2005, 09:36 AM)
20/3/05 log:

anyone still lagging? i'm still getting 1500ms average these days.....sigh. wonder when will it be solved... any of u think if i go upgrade my line from 512 to 1mb streamyx package will improve the performance or give me a diffrent set of ip other than the 219.x one?
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Don't think upgrading will work, I'm on 1mb and it still lags when TMnet screws up.

219.xxx suddenly didn't work for me, so I just restarted my modem a few times, finally got 218.xxx. 300 latency in game sweat.gif
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I have a D-Link DSL-300G. Is there a faster way than the on/off switch to reboot the modem to try and get the 218.* range of IPs.. maybe from the Web control panel?

Simply disconnecting and reconnecting the connection only seems to keep me stuck in the 219.* range.
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I logged in today morning and the pings seems to be back to normal.....
Few things I believe that causes high pings (latency) over the last weeks:

- high pings to 12.xxx.xxx.xxx networks. This could be either that network have some issues or our ISP (Streamyx in this case) as problems connecting with that network..
- Latency within WoW. This latency, I believe is still there. You might get around 600ms pings to the WoW servers but once you're in the game, the ping shot up to around 1.2kms.

I don't think both of these problems can be solved by 'tweaking' the client end (your PC). We'll just have to wait this out....... it will get solved eventually.
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I was getting about 1.5k ms latency yesterday on both the 219.95 and 219.94 even nowadays. The only solution is to get that elusive 218.210 range or IP.. i think it's 218.210 or 210.218.. can't remember the exact ones but it's not the 219.x series. tongue.gif

Anyhow your trace would not reach their network as they have probably filtered trace packets.
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have u guys got any problem connecting streamyx? my bro in law just call and say cannot connect internet, error 678...remote not response... i duno yet, will check it out after this..

yay almost office hour finish!! must go BRD
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Usually remote not respond is because the streamyx in that area is down. Switch down or something. I can't recall. You'll have to wait it out as they are fixing it. If not just call in and lodge a report so they know about it. If you're lucky, it'll be back in no time. If not, wait for next day.

Guess I'm going to try a few times tonight to get that elusive 218 range again. 219 range is not working for me at all. 1k-2k pings constant.

Its always good in the morning. That's when I check my auctions. But when I reach home to play at night, its the same old story.
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its worse today after the content patch...i wonder if its streamyx or blizz? anyone else experience lag? it was fine for me (under 1k ms) for monday and tuesday.......
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its blizz server..even the players from US is experiencing unusual lag

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its blizz server..even the players from US is experiencing unusual lag
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the 2.5k to 3k latencies can be put down to Streamyz trans-pacific lag + Blizz lag.


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ping at 11:17 was at 9800
Updated @ 11:28 pm , 7390 ping

broke da records!

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12am still the same...my average is 2k out abit. this is worse than last week coz it was averaged at 1.2-1.4k last week. haiiiiiiiz wtf man streamyx. new content cannot play also ........ T_T

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yalor... same here =\

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I think must be streamyx problems..coz im been playing last night using dialup and my average lat was about 500-800 only. No extreme lagging for me...<smug>...lol
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Sigh. Did you guys checked what IPs you were getting when you got those high latencies..?????
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Sigh. Did you guys checked what IPs you were getting when you got those high latencies..?????
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I've notice from the above tracert listing, these 2 IPs shows significant jump in latency :

222 ms 221 ms 222 ms 219.93.153.150
1184 ms 1184 ms 1180 ms 12.119.139.37

219.93.153.150 belongs to TMNET as listed below from APNIC :

inetnum: 219.93.152.0 - 219.93.183.255
netname: INFRA-TMNET
descr: TMNET
country: MY
admin-c: TA35-AP
tech-c: TA35-AP
mnt-by: TM-NET-AP
changed: aizan98@tm.net.my 20040409
status: ASSIGNED NON-PORTABLE
source: APNIC

12.119.139.37 belongs to AT&T Worldnet as listed below from ARIN :

AT&T WorldNet Services ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1)
12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255
AT&T Worldnet Services ATTSVI-12-112-0-0 (NET-12-112-0-0-1)
12.112.0.0 - 12.119.255.255

Blizzard's World of Warcraft is hosted in Worldnet using the following IP ranges :

Blizzard Entertainment ATTENS-008916-004056 (NET-12-129-232-0-1)
12.129.232.0 - 12.129.233.255

From the above info, we can see that the major lag comes from AT&T Worldnet ISP. There is minimal lag from within Streamyx IP ranges until it hit 219.93.153.150, which I believe is the gateway that connects to the Worldnet networks. The spike starts when we hit 12.119.139.37, which is the portal into Worldnet from Streamyx. From the traceroute listed by you guys, I believe the problem lies in between these 2 IPs, what I don't know.

In game, the ping hits more than double the pings listed in the traceroutes. This suggest that there are additional lag coming from within Blizzard's network. Unfortunately we cannot determine whether its the hardware or software related problems since IPs within Blizzard's network is blocked.

There are other Streamyx users playing WoW that claims that they have no problem with lag and some say that if they can connect to 218.xxx.xxx.xxx IP the lag is minimal. Can these Streamyx users playing WoW who have no problem with lag (eg 400- 700ms ingame) help us out by doing a traceroute to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com (tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com) and list it here for us to digest and analyze, Please?



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6 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms 210.187.132.83
7 23 ms 22 ms 23 ms 219.93.174.67
8 314 ms 315 ms 314 ms 219.93.153.158
9 319 ms 320 ms 320 ms 12.118.44.5
10 322 ms 322 ms 324 ms 12.123.8.50
11 328 ms 327 ms 331 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
12 325 ms 325 ms 323 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]

This is what i got.. hope that helps

i'm on a 218.208. IP range

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I'll post mine tonight too.

edit:

6 21 ms 19 ms 19 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 227 ms 25 ms 31 ms 210.187.132.83
8 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.174.67
9 314 ms 314 ms 314 ms 219.93.153.158
10 318 ms 319 ms 317 ms 12.118.44.5
11 318 ms 320 ms 317 ms 12.123.8.50
12 322 ms 322 ms 321 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
13 346 ms 350 ms 321 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
14 319 ms 320 ms 319 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
15 319 ms 319 ms 320 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16 329 ms 329 ms 329 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
17 330 ms 330 ms 329 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]


My IP is 218.208.xxx

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I never got hook with 218 before..its always 219..how sucky is that

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Check out http://www.internettrafficreport.com/. Asia in general seems to be having tons of problems. 17% average packet loss is nuts.
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Thanks RapTor!
Looks like the 218.xxx.xxx.xxx uses a different IP gateway to connect to Worldnet!! More question RapTor.... Are you using the 512kbps package? The reason I'm asking is that I'm using the 1mbps package and for the life of me I cannot connect to the 218.xxx.xxx.xxx network. Not too sure if the Streamyx IP list is area dependant or package dependant.


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i'm using 512 and i can't connect to the 218 network
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fly, if you were to click in further into the country details you will find that Malaysia's latency is around 250-350ms and ZERO packet losses (based on Jaring's backbone). Which pretty good in comparison with Singapore's.

Note that it does not include ALL routers (eg TMNET) in the list as this is an independant service. So the traffic representation is not really accurate (India has 100% packet loss!!!, you think?), but its a good indication in a general sense.
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TMNET SERVICE DISRUPTION

TM Net Sdn Bhd would like to inform its customers that we will be conducting a scheduled maintenance and upgrading exercise at the International link to the United States to improve our service performance. As a result, customers may experience a slower performance especially to its U.S. links from 12:00 noon on 24 March 2005 (Thursday) until 28 March 2005 (Monday).



TM Net customers may experience service interruption during this period due to the upgrading exercise.



TM Net Sdn Bhd apologizes for any inconvenience caused but at the same time, we would like to assure you that we are upgrading our service to serve you better.



Customers can call our Customer Interaction Center at 1-300-88-1515 or 1-300-88-9515 or email custcare@tm.net.my for further enquiries.
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TMNET SERVICE DISRUPTION

TM Net Sdn Bhd would like to inform its customers that we will be conducting a scheduled maintenance and upgrading exercise at the International link to the United States to improve our service performance.  As a result, customers may experience a slower performance especially to its U.S. links from 12:00 noon on 24 March 2005 (Thursday) until 28 March 2005 (Monday).

TM Net customers may experience service interruption during this period due to the upgrading exercise.

TM Net Sdn Bhd apologizes for any inconvenience caused but at the same time, we would like to assure you that we are upgrading our service to serve you better.

Customers can call our Customer Interaction Center at 1-300-88-1515 or 1-300-88-9515 or email custcare@tm.net.my for further enquiries.
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Aiyo like that ka shocking.gif , dang my WoW subscription almost finish unsure.gif and distruption happen during weekend...NOOOO!!!! cry.gif

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I called Streamyx help center earlier hoping to explain the latency problem some of us are facing in the 219.xxx.xxx.xxx domain. A lady picked up the phone and I proceeded to explain the situation to her. Man, she is so 'blur'! She don't even know what latency is! So I told her to get her supervisor so that I can explain it to him. This fellow knows what LAG is, so I thought maybe I can explain it easier to him.

I told him about how some of us who is in IP domain 218.xxx.xxx.xxx can play WoW with minimal latency and those in IP domain 219.xxx.xxx.xxx.
He act like he knows and promptly tell me that it is a games issue and ask me to contact WoW instead. I went 'bengang' and told him that the lag started even before it hit WoW servers because I did a traceroute.

You know what? He don't even know what traceroute means!!! GAWD!! So I proceeded to explain what that means...... After telling him all that, he was at loss of what to do. So he told me to give him my H/P number and he will call me back (,fat chance).

I've been dealing with Streamyx for quite sometime now, at work and in my own personal capacity. So I asked for a service report number.... heheh.
He got smart and tells me, he's not too sure if this problem can be reported (because he don't know) and insist that he will have to check it first and call me back later. HAHAHAHAH!

Soooo... for all those who is connected to 219.xxx.xxx.xxx, learn to live with the lag.... cos the TMNET Helpcenters are operated by...... Telephone Operators.... not technicians.
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thanks for the update on what tmnet is doing guys. guess we'll have to wait till monday! but i find it stupid to conduct 'maintainence' on weekends.

my subscription ends april 15th and if streamyx still lag by then its prolly time to take a break from wow biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Mar 24 2005, 02:09 PM)
Thanks RapTor!
Looks like the 218.xxx.xxx.xxx uses a different IP gateway to connect to Worldnet!! More question RapTor.... Are you using the 512kbps package? The reason I'm asking is that I'm using the 1mbps package and for the life of me I cannot connect to the 218.xxx.xxx.xxx network. Not too sure if the Streamyx IP list is area dependant or package dependant.
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I'm on the 512 package.. I'm lucky as whenever i try to spam reconnect, i can still get a 218.xxx ip range. Sometimes it takes a few tries, sometimes a coupla min :/

219.94.xxx used to be ok but it has gone down the drain since last Monday. Since there's and announcement made, lets hope it gets better come next week!
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this lag not even juz out side problem too.

after patch. all server got this latency problem as well sad.gif
check http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...&T=2137454&P=14
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aizyou, you're right about server lags. I did mention about this in a earlier post.

Here an example of the kinda lag I'm facing right now :

Lag from Streamy to Blizzard servers : 1300+ms
Lag from Blizzard servers itself : 700+ms

Total lag in-game : 2000+ms

my friend from Singapore is facing around 1300+ms lags yesterday. So I guess, even their international link is facing some problems.
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same here. b4 patch.. my lag only 400-600 sometime 800 high..
but after patch.. within this few days... 2500 average :/

yesterdat havnt login yet.. will check tonite smile.gif

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you gonna get the same cos TMNET is doing 'maintennence' on their international link to the US. It will only be fixed by Monday next week.


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Woohoo... New ip range... 60.48.x.x which i connected to this afternoon. Smooth gameplay of 300 to 500 lat. biggrin.gif
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Woohoo... New ip range... 60.48.x.x which i connected to this afternoon. Smooth gameplay of 300 to 500 lat. biggrin.gif
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you should feel lucky man..
i can't even have any ip except 219.95.XX.XX

dont ever disconnect dude..
btw can i come over and play ar?? biggrin.gif
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ya! last nite with ip 218 smooth... 300-500 !
now with new ip 60.xxx too tongue.gif smooth ~
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u guys which get 60.xxx ip what area are u in? so lucky ah :/

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I think its most probably from the said TMNET disruptions. Remember we don't usually have latency over 800 but right after the patch on our time Wednesday morning, we can't log on that much and those that manages to log on acknowledge about the lag and stuff. Then on the very next day, TMNET does a maintenance to its US link and I guess thats badly affects our main link to the WoW gateway.

I have never ever gotten above 800+..usually hovers around 500-600ms with an occasional 400-500ms lvl range and I live in Subang Jaya. And each time the latency is bad, there is always the news on streamyx about maintenance and upgrade. So I hope everything will work out this Monday onwards...and since they said its an upgrade, it will be cool if we can stay in the constant range of 400-500ms....means yellow bar all the time...

PLEASE DO WORK cause I can't play with latency above 2000ms and sometimes even getting 5000ms lol.
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yea the game is playable at 1k below. but nowdays 2k constant...and even get 14k when just logged on......
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shit man, i logged on 218.208.xxx.xxx and its still laggy. wtf is wrong with this. You know browsing from the problems above ^.- It seems that the people at tmnet dont even know their work, i bet we could even go work there. ;-)
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Still as laggy as ever! My warlock can probably solo at 2000-3000ms but pokai teruk when doing instances/raids. TMNut can GTH if they don't fix this soon. It's the 28th already!
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28th is still not over yet, friends.......... so wait some more lah....
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28th is still not over yet, friends.......... so wait some more lah....
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really hope it'll be ok after this. getting tired of attack.... take bath, go dinner, come back..... then the attack hits....... cry.gif cry.gif

weird thing is, i got 700+ in early morning....
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really hope it'll be ok after this. getting tired of attack.... take bath, go dinner, come back..... then the attack hits.......  cry.gif  cry.gif

weird thing is, i got 700+ in early morning....
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It's always 700+ or so in the early morning during the workweek... then everybody and their next door neighbour wakes, fires up their internet connection (at work and at home) and then everything goes south.

I had a lot of adventuring time during the weekend playing from 2am to 7am in the middle of the night.


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Well, I just hit level 40 with my pally during these 2 weeks of 2k pings. I had to adjust the way I play to compensate for the 2 second lag. Whenever I go into a fight, I had to remind myself that what I'm seeing happended 2 seconds ago and what I'm reacting to is 2 second too late. So I had to second guess the mob's action and do whatever I need to do 2 second earlier. For example, normally I'll hit heal when my HP is down to 20-30% health. With the newfound 2 second lag, I had to start hitting the heal button when the health is around 40-50%.

Its irritating, but its survivable. Just don't go PVPing, most probably you'll lose big time. LOL!!
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I just hit level 50 yesterday (that's 3-4 levels in the 2k ping period). Not cool at all. All except 1 of my spells that I normally use are instant casts (curses, corruption, nighfall+shadowbolt, instant pet) so the delay hurts my strat alot. For PvP, I can just barely do it against melee fighters as I use fear kiting alot....hehe...

EDIT: Latency still stuck at 2k and it's already past working hour. I guess we'll have to wait till tmr.

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wah lao u 2 good wor, 2k ping still can tahan play......i can't tahan.....i just log in check my mails make sure it doesn't finish it days...then check AH.....then logout wow....for the past week......screw tmnet streamyx!!!
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My pings seems to be acceptable around 700... but its the frequent disconnection that disturbs my gameplay... hihihihi
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After the tremors, my Streamyx disconneted.......
Reconnect, and dive back into WoW at 1am.... still the same shitty 2k pings..
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I don't get it, why was there such a drastic change in ping ? During release and stress test it was fine! Should I call StreamyX ?
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I just hit level 50 yesterday (that's 3-4 levels in the 2k ping period). Not cool at all. All except 1 of my spells that I normally use are instant casts (curses, corruption, nighfall+shadowbolt, instant pet) so the delay hurts my strat alot. For PvP, I can just barely do it against melee fighters as I use fear kiting alot....hehe...

EDIT: Latency still stuck at 2k and it's already past working hour. I guess we'll have to wait till tmr.
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Xeoalpha, I've tried. Read my earlier post.
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I sent an email to customer care. Used retsmots tracert results below (Hope you dont mind). In fact, I just realise that instead of addressing it to STREAMYX, I addressed it to SteamyX !! Look below! LOL biggrin.gif


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Dear SteamyX Customer Care,

Hello, my name is XXXXXXX and I am your customer in the Sunway area. I would like to point out that: World of Warcraft players nationwide has been having problems with extremely high latency. This was not the case during stress test, open beta or even during launch day of the product. This problem is around 2 weeks old.

A "tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com" in command prompt will display the problem.
To summarize, the community believes that the problem is with your DNS range starting with 219.xxx.xxx.xxx

Futher community information can be found at: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=135140

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TRACERT FROM KELANA JAYA

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 17 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 12 ms 9 ms 10 ms 219.93.216.109
3 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms 219.93.155.41
4 12 ms 11 ms 10 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
5 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 210.187.15.254
6 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 202.188.126.132
7 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.173.37
8 212 ms 211 ms 211 ms 219.93.153.150
9 932 ms 929 ms 929 ms 12.119.139.37
10 921 ms 917 ms 925 ms tbr2-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.195.217]
11 927 ms 918 ms 933 ms gbr5-p20.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.90]
12 927 ms 919 ms 925 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 938 ms 929 ms 934 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
14 939 ms 939 ms 945 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.46]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out
22 * * * Request timed out.
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Thank you kindly. Any response would be very much appreciated by the community.

Regards,
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Xeoalpha, I've tried. Read my earlier post.
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I've been following the thread smile.gif I did read it. I just can't sit around any longer; waiting for a resolution to the issue.

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still the same......they prolly lepak the whole weekend and didn't bother to do anything.
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I've heard some rumours that the latency has finally cleared up now, with people getting 700ms latencies and below even when on 219.* IPs.

Anyone hear want to confirm or deny this?

EDIT - Still at work, can't check myself.


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Latency in Penang went to 2k plus on Sat. afternoon around 4pm. Tried again at 10am on Sunday, and it was fine with around 500 - 700ms lag up till now.

Oddly, I used to get better speed with 219.95.2xx.x IP's but these are the slow ones after the maintenance. The usual 219.95.xx.x are speedier connections for me. I've never received any 218.x or 60.x IP's before, so there you go...
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Ok. today is the 29th..way after their maintenance period and its still lagging about 1800ms~2200ms range...no difference at all. I can tell no one in the game except me...cause I party with another warlock today and he has casted corruption, curse of agony and about finished his immolate spell when I just finish casting my corruption spell.... sad.gif

Ugh...tell me how am I going to be able to solo and defend myself in the PvP server when this happens? Btw, before the 24th maintenance, I was also getting the latency at around 800ms~1400ms at some certain point but then stabilize at 500~700ms on average.
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My girlfriend at home has already got 2 levels today when Im at work *sigh* She tell's me the latency is still the same, Wildside sad.gif Darnnit!

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Mar 29 2005, 03:07 PM)
Ok. today is the 29th..way after their maintenance period and its still lagging about 1800ms~2200ms range...no difference at all. I can tell no one in the game except me...cause I party with another warlock today and he has casted corruption, curse of agony and about finished his immolate spell when I just finish casting my corruption spell.... sad.gif

Ugh...tell me how am I going to be able to solo and defend myself in the PvP server when this happens? Btw, before the 24th maintenance, I was also getting the latency at around 800ms~1400ms at some certain point but then stabilize at 500~700ms on average.
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Goodness Gracious... today is the 29th the maintenance should had ended yesterday 28/3/2005 if i am not mistaken. But guess what..? I'm still getting >2,000 latency and that is not all after awhile around 15 minutes i get disconnected from WOW,after that i cant even surf the web... gotta restart my pc and reconnect vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Mar 29 2005, 05:37 PM)
My girlfriend at home has already got 2 levels today when Im at work *sigh* She tell's me the latency is still the same, Wildside sad.gif Darnnit!
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kih kih kih smile.gif patient my frend... dang! oh noes, its 5:45!!! go back home now!!
(last week, 5 days no WoW, now already 2 days cant play WoW...man im totally WoW-sick.... can u IMAGINE THAT!!!! arrrrghhhhhhhhh cry.gif )
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Eikan - Oh man, 5 DAYS!! OH NOES!! That's like hell man! Lucky I have Lineage 2 to tide me over during cases like these - I've still got good friends there that I keep in contact with outside the game.

They just won't move to WoW doh.gif vmad.gif Darnnit! *starts to brainwash*
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Mar 29 2005, 05:54 PM)
Eikan - Oh man, 5 DAYS!! OH NOES!! That's like hell man! Lucky I have Lineage 2 to tide me over during cases like these - I've still got good friends there that I keep in contact with outside the game.

They just won't move to WoW  doh.gif  vmad.gif  Darnnit! *starts to brainwash*
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QUOTE(nVidiaFX @ Mar 29 2005, 05:48 PM)
Goodness Gracious... today is the 29th the maintenance should had ended yesterday 28/3/2005 if i am not mistaken. But guess what..? I'm still getting >2,000 latency and that is not all after awhile around 15 minutes i get disconnected from WOW,after that i cant even surf the web... gotta restart my pc and reconnect  vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif
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was wondering anyone having the same problem like me..?
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lol we outta topic already tongue.gif
nah i havent play that one but u can PM me more info about it whistling.gif
..hehe sorry for confusion... dang im so "ringan mulut"

i wonder why lah ur frend not join wow meh, even FF player also go to wow, i suggest u burn all good video clip about the game (created by playerz) such as rogue - kill bank NPC, warlock PvP (Dacke), Onixia by Discordia, etc etc with some/many screenshot about the bosses, the map, the various UI, links, the history....
man.. i bet they gonna jaw dropping drool.gif and start asking u where the heck the gonna buy WoW!!!.... and when this happen u MUST help them get a copy tongue.gif - this gonna be hard part tongue.gif

err btw do they play warcraft3/FrozenThrone or not? blink.gif
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TO: help@ip.att.net
SUBJECT: Problem with your IP Range - Causing huge latency.

Dear AT&T,

Hello, my name is Nicholas and I am a resident of Malaysia. Over the past 2 weeks, the Malaysian community of the game, World of Warcraft - Which AT&T is the host provider for; have been experiencing severe lag on your IP range.

Below are tracert results. Could you please check into it and eMail me back ?
Sincerely, thank you.

Regards,
NicholasC.


Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
© Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Xeo>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.216.109
3 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.155.33
4 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms 210.187.133.83
5 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
6 306 ms 306 ms 304 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1370 ms 1371 ms 1373 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1372 ms 1371 ms 1369 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1370 ms 1370 ms 1370 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 1369 ms 1372 ms 1372 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 1369 ms 1367 ms 1369 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
12 1366 ms 1370 ms 1370 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 1372 ms 1376 ms 1377 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
14 1376 ms 1377 ms 1378 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
110]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
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20 * * * Request timed out.
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Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Xeo>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 22 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 12 ms 105 ms 25 ms 219.93.216.101
3 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.155.29
4 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms 210.187.133.83
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
6 306 ms 306 ms 307 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1372 ms 1371 ms 1373 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1373 ms 1375 ms 1373 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1368 ms 1365 ms 1370 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 1367 ms 1367 ms 1368 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 1365 ms 1368 ms 1364 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
12 1364 ms 1366 ms 1367 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 1374 ms 1374 ms 1372 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
14 1361 ms 1363 ms 1366 ms 12.129.192.122
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
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20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
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23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * General failure.

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Xeo>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 46 ms 119 ms 17 ms 219.93.216.109
3 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.155.33
4 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms 210.187.133.83
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
6 306 ms 306 ms 307 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1639 ms 1499 ms 1561 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1668 ms 1387 ms 1702 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1781 ms 1375 ms * tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 984 ms 870 ms 833 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 769 ms 770 ms 779 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 4157 ms 620 ms 715 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
15 * * * Request timed out.
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Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Xeo>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.113]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 15 ms 15 ms 17 ms 219.93.218.177
2 14 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.216.101
3 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms 219.93.155.29
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 210.187.133.83
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
6 310 ms 305 ms 306 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1363 ms 1360 ms 1364 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1363 ms 1361 ms 1363 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1356 ms 1363 ms 1358 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 1359 ms 1362 ms 1363 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 1363 ms 1360 ms 1360 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
12 1361 ms 1361 ms 1357 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 1366 ms 1372 ms 1368 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
14 1358 ms 1357 ms 1359 ms 12.129.192.126
15 * * * Request timed out.
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Trace complete.

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The high jump in latency between hop 6 and 7 .. is probably due to high congestion smile.gif Have they responded to you yet? (it's probably more of tmnet's fault I bet)
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Dear Malaysian World of Warcraft Gamer,

We are not aware of any support by Blizzard Entertainment to allow Malaysians to play World of Warcraft.

As such, we are not obliged to provide any assistance to you in any way, shape or form.

In other words, sux to be j00!!


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Logged in today morning, 7:51am. The ping is 800+ms (outside game) and 1300+ms (in-game). smile.gif
I hope this lasts.

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Its not good enough, I was getting 400-500 ping yesterday

And now most of WoW's servers are down. Sheesh :/

finally able to be connected with 218.xxx IP this morning, after few hours of trying. Ping at 600-700. Quite okay...
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Well, it's not much, but it's encouraging.

Here's to the latency improving as the day goes on, and the servers up when I get home from work.

Gone through way too many evenings without WoW now.

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QUOTE(Sichiri @ Mar 30 2005, 08:41 AM)
Its not good enough, I was getting 400-500 ping yesterday

And now most of WoW's servers are down. Sheesh :/

finally able to be connected with 218.xxx IP this morning, after few hours of trying. Ping at 600-700. Quite okay...
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How did you manage it? You just disconnect and reconnect or you resetted the router by powering it down?
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QUOTE(wildside @ Mar 30 2005, 07:37 AM)
Dear Malaysian World of Warcraft Gamer,

We are not aware of any support by Blizzard Entertainment to allow Malaysians to play World of Warcraft.

As such, we are not obliged to provide any assistance to you in any way, shape or form.

In other words, sux to be j00!!
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Very funny. I could very well be an American or Australian residing in Malaysia. It's officially stated that citizens abroad will still be able to play WoW.

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'We dun believe j00!!!111ONE!!'

In any case, one way to determine whether it's the Streamyx infrastructure or something on the US side is to attempt to connect using an alternative method like dial-up (TMnet or Jaring). If you can get acceptable latency, then it's most likely Streamyx messing up.
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I've been playing on Jaring dial-up and it's been 600-800ms ping
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There we go... AT&T (or whatever US gateway Malaysia is on) is absolved.


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Of blame? Or...? Does this mean the problem is solved?

Been fine for me for the last few days. *fingers crossed*
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My conclusion... there was very little, if any, issue with the US gateway Malaysia uses, as shown my the lack of problems users of dial-up and other services have encountered.

TMnet did do a spot of maintenance, I imagine, which is why Streamyx users outside Klang Valley have seen things go back to normal lately.

Where to now? I expect they'll have to sort out the node congestion in the Klang Valley, as well as work out some issues with the routing tables.

Be optimistic, go have a cup of teh tarik instead of venting your frustrations here, and hopefully things will get back to normal (or whatever normal translates to on Streamyx) by the end of the day.

For those who are going through cold turkey, a chapalang dial-up modem is only RM20 or so at Lowyat. Getting one ought to tide you for the time being.

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I don't have any problem. Been getting 300-600 ms latency on streamyx (KL).
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Dear Mr.XXXXX,

Thank you for e-mailing TM Net . Firstly, we apologise for the late reply.

Referring to your e-mail, we have acknowledged the problem and regret to informyou that we are facing some difficulties with the international links currently.We have taken the necessary measure to overcome this problem and it will be restored shortly. We apologise for the inconvenience caused.

Should you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us either via e-mail at streamyx@tm.net.my. or call us at 1-300-88-9515 between the hours of 8.00 am to 12.00 mn, seven days a week to speak to any of our representatives.

Kind Regards,
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Website: http://isp.tm.net.my


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Hmmm, this thread got all quiet since lunchtime.

Have you all finally managed to get back on to play, or has Streamyx died completely that you can come on to post? biggrin.gif


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Still in the office. No chance to try it out. Besides that, last I checked, Zul'jin is still down for maintenance. Most probably have to play on Proudmoore tonight. tongue.gif
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*sigh* 3000+ and then 5000+ ping. What's wrong wif Streamyx? Seems that our broadband is slower than Jaring's dial up. Makes me regret getting broadband....NOT...hehe.
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Does our streamyx come with a dial up account? If this goes on I think I'll clear the dust on my 56k and play on a dial up until they fix our broadband connection. Getting bored of 3 sec delay in my attacks. Nowadays its almost reaching 5 secs delay even with 2k ping. Its like something is wrong with my uploading speed.

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QUOTE(Tatty @ Mar 30 2005, 03:42 PM)
Does our streamyx come with a dial up account? If this goes on I think I'll clear the dust on my 56k and play on a dial up until they fix our broadband connection. Getting bored of 3 sec delay in my attacks. Nowadays its almost reaching 5 secs delay even with 2k ping. Its like something is wrong with my uploading speed.
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Dialup is good...that's how i have been playing. During the past 2-3 weeks, my lat was on average 900-1000 only...very playable one flex.gif
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No, it doesn't... but I think some of us are still paying for 20-odd ringgit TMnet subscription which we were using before Streamyx came along. At least I am because I wanted to keep my @tm.net.my email address.

I no longer have a dial-up modem tho... Anyone want to lend me one? I'm in the Damansara area tongue.gif

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post Mar 30 2005, 05:20 PM

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fark, today still the same 2k ping after that getting dc... need to restart.
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emm.. i really no problem with my streamyx.
i getting 300-600 ping only !

did u guy try ip range start from 60.48.xxx.xxx ?


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I got steady 300-500 pings on 219 since Saturday unsure.gif Same with 218. Never got any other IP range before.

Kelana Jaya area, anyone else from here?
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I have spoken with the supervisor (StreamyX), and he knows the problem exactly. He said it will be solved early next week. He also said that they are fixing it one location at a time. This could explain why some users have better pings then others.
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Well, tell him to fix Damansara/TTDI first then wink.gif

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Im not in game because Argent Dawn is still down. But from tracert my LINE has IMRPOVED! No more 1000-2000 ping ! Its 100-300 ping!

Even testmy.net is normal now for me (Before it was saying I was 1 times faster than a 56k modem).

Now I need AD to be up so I can check!
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Hmm lag seems to be gone.

C:\>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.110]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.1.1.1
2 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms 219.93.218.177
3 20 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.216.5
4 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms 210.187.129.139
5 51 ms 92 ms 77 ms 210.187.15.253
6 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 67 ms 89 ms 182 ms 210.187.133.83
8 27 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.174.83
9 316 ms 319 ms 318 ms 219.93.153.158
10 455 ms 325 ms 326 ms 12.118.44.5
11 327 ms 329 ms 327 ms 12.123.8.50
12 345 ms 342 ms 341 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
13 484 ms 395 ms 392 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
14 395 ms 392 ms 393 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
15 409 ms 393 ms 521 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16 401 ms 409 ms 402 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 393 ms 393 ms 392 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
250]
18 * ^C
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Got disconnected at about 1:40am last night for no reason, and then couldn't reconnect.

Anyone else got it as well?

Quite annoying because I was 10 minutes from finishing Dire Maul North.
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yep faced the same thing...running BRd and got dc
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lol yeah, me too. I was on 218.xxx, restarted and got 219, managed to get in again.
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Same here as well. Getting 400-600 latency yesterday.
Omg. Thank you tmnet for finally fixing it and thanks to everyone that worked hard on complaining to them. smile.gif
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Same 400-800 yesterday. Strangely, my connection is better now before the 2k period.
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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Mar 31 2005, 03:19 PM)
Same 400-800 yesterday. Strangely, my connection is better now before the 2k period.
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Yesterday I got like 334ms...it was so good....you know the feeling when you press on the key to cast and then cast timer immediately appears..without the 2s delay I have experience for the past week...but...I am back to 2k ping now..what the heck? time now is 3:45PM in Subang Jaya...am I alone now?
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the latency just went sucky bout 20 mins ago.......
it was ok last night till just now :/

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same here.., you're not alone..sigh....
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same here too.... wtf
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For what it's worth, all servers are going to be down between 7pm and 10pm our time tonight.

Hope they get it sorted out by the time they come back up. I'm looking at a late night session again.

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Maybe its not tmnet this time

It sometimes happens when they are about to take down the server for maintenance. Seems pretty effective to kick people out of the server. tongue.gif
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but no one is complaining in the server except us
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already wasted somany days of WoW before that stupid stimX now the maintenance... speechless... i rather not having the "rested" status.
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heh today get connect to 219, lol 1K ftw,
then relog, recon to 218, still 800~1K...
then reloc to 60.* i got 400~600 smile.gif

current best ping i ever see is 17K!!! at strat
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QUOTE(ExCrIpT @ Mar 31 2005, 06:26 PM)
but no one is complaining in the server except us
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Ah... effective in kicking us out of the server then. cry.gif

Faced that before just before the server was about to go down for maintenance.
My friend and I was just so close to kicking Van Cleef's ass and then the major lags started to weigh down on us. sad.gif
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is the server down now...?
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The server's up again, and it's UBER LAGGY! 3500 ping! Arrgghhh.....and I was enjoying yesterday's 300-400 ping rates.
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Time: 10:06pm. Ping : 2000+ms (outside game)!!!!!!!! What the heck is going on???? We had good pings yesterday and today it all went to hell!!
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Got home to check. Its 2000 ping again outside game. sad.gif
Cannot play. I give up. Guess I'll go watch a movie.

Update: 12:16am and it just hit a whopping 5000 latency while my friend in subang is playing with 500 latency. Way to go Tmnet.... cry.gif

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I can barely grind in Ungoro now. Luckily my pet holds 90% of the aggro. Streamyx....PLEASE FIX THE DAMN CONNECTION!
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wtf is happening to streamyx..my ping now is a freaking 5000ms PING! Good god streamyx...what really happened to yesterday good connection?
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Geez...I'm stuck at a constant 3500-3700 ping. Is this fun or what? tongue.gif

EDIT: 75600exp points earned running at near 4000 ping! Now THAT's what I call grinding thumbup.gif

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Geez...I'm stuck at a constant 3500-3700 ping. Is this fun or what? tongue.gif

EDIT: 50180exp points earned running at near 4000 ping! Now THAT's what I call grinding thumbup.gif
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Man, I am giving streamyx until tomorrow to fix the damn problem. The fact that tmnuts upgraded 512kbps users to 1mbps so that this particular people won't change to other ISPs. I am giving scremyx until this weekend to fix the damn problem...or else its bye bye to them and I am off to maxis broadband. Its totally unplayable now..5k ping is outrageous.


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That's it! The connection's getting worse. I left when it peaked at 7k ping. I can't even fight green mobs!

Hopefully, Streamyx will sort things out by tomorrow.
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Time : 7:22am. Ping : 850+ms (outside game). Why is it that the ping is low in the morning and get progressively worse as it reaches the evening??
*DOUBLE SIGH*
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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Apr 1 2005, 07:22 AM)
Time : 7:22am. Ping : 850+ms (outside game). Why is it that the ping is low in the morning and get progressively worse as it reaches the evening??
*DOUBLE SIGH*
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If the servers are in NA, then traffic would peak at night as North American businesses ramp up for the working day, thus flooding the bandwith with traffic. The Blizzard servers would be relatively free (presumably not many NA WoW players online during the day)...but it won't do us much good as the bandwith is maxed out.

This is of course, just conjecture. But my experiences with other web services also suffer at night e.g; downloads.... shakehead.gif
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Well, I guess Xeo will have to talk with his Streamyx supervisor 'friend' again, or at least someone else can follow up.

That said, the supervisor 'friend' apparently did say that the problem will be fixed for everyone 'early next week'.

Than again, at this point in time, I have as much trust in the word of a Telekom official than I have in a Malaysian becoming F1 world champion tongue.gif

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QUOTE(Morpheus2be @ Apr 1 2005, 08:38 AM)
If the servers are in NA, then traffic would peak at night as North American businesses ramp up for the working day, thus flooding the bandwith with traffic. The Blizzard servers would be relatively free (presumably not many NA WoW players online during the day)...but it won't do us much good as the bandwith is maxed out.

This is of course, just conjecture. But my experiences with other web services also suffer at night e.g; downloads.... shakehead.gif
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The ping hits 2k+ at nite, and thats not normal. The most delay we have from NA day traffic is another 100ms or so. I doubt this is a AT&T issue, more like TMNet is having a field day with the international link to AT&T. Either there are problems with the link itself or TMNet router settings is in questions. Since some of us have no problems with latency other than the norm when playing WoW, hosted by AT&T, I believe the problem lies in TMNet end.
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The fact that we were having sub-500 latencies means only one thing to me...

Streamyx punya routing table kena baham murloc

or

routing table Streamyx dibaham murloc

depending on which you prefer to describe the situation

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 1 2005, 12:46 AM)
Man, I am giving streamyx until tomorrow to fix the damn problem. The fact that tmnuts upgraded 512kbps users to 1mbps so that this particular people won't change to other ISPs. I am giving scremyx until this weekend to fix the damn problem...or else its bye bye to them and I am off to maxis broadband.  Its totally unplayable now..5k ping is outrageous.
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ur Maxis broadband mean Time Broadband rite?

anyone using Time Broadband? is it cool or playable in WoW?
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Any latest updates..?
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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 1 2005, 08:50 AM)
Well, I guess Xeo will have to talk with his Streamyx supervisor 'friend' again, or at least someone else can follow up.

That said,  the supervisor 'friend' apparently did say that the problem will be fixed for everyone 'early next week'.

Than again, at this point in time, I have as much trust in the word of a Telekom official than I have in a Malaysian becoming F1 world champion tongue.gif
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'early next week'? You mean this week? Or next week?

Still laggy as ever when I checked it just now.
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time: 4:50pm. Ping (outside game) : 1500+ms

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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Apr 1 2005, 04:49 PM)
time: 4:50pm. Ping (outside game) : 1500+ms
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How do you know the ping (outside game)?

Streamyx sucks. I wonder how well Jaring BB is doing now...
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i am getting 900-800 Latency in game... - playable.
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u good lor mine still crappy. weekend again no wow. 2 more weeks subsciption end still like this chill this game 1st liao.....sigh.
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I can't beleive this thing is still going on, worst of all is that, I got the 218.xxx. ip once, and i cant get it again >_<!!! why is it so rare/hard to switch to the 218.xx.xxx dns server, and they're running down on our WoW subscription >:(
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juz do a testing ...
with ip 219.xxx i got 4-5k ping
with ip 218.xxx i got 500-800ping
with ip 60.xxx i got 500-600 ping

the best is with 60.xxx ip range smile.gif
i got a fren juz within me 1km.. but he hardly to get a 218(once) or 60(never b4) ip range :/ he got 4k++ ping all the way ..


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Great .. it's Friday night and 219.x.x.x IP is giving me a 3000-6500ms ping time ingame.
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can everyone of u tell me type of ur connection if u get < 1k latency?

me using Streamyx Basic (RM66) get latency like between 2.5k to 5k

IP 219 >.<

is it Streamyx still having problem or it is my own connection problem?
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Just wanted to answer sanylcs' question on Time broadband.

I use Time broadband at work, and I get 300-500 latency. Unfortunately, I can't stay at work 24/7.

I am getting 2000-3000+ at home though. Streamyx sooo sucks. And I'm paying RM88 for a 400+kbps line which should be ~1mbps.

ARGH. ARGH. ARGH.
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QUOTE(sanylcs @ Apr 1 2005, 11:49 PM)
can everyone of u tell me type of ur connection if u get < 1k latency?

me using Streamyx Basic (RM66) get latency like between 2.5k to 5k

IP 219 >.<

is it Streamyx still having problem or it is my own connection problem?
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its Streamyx problem, nothing to do with location or package. If you're using IP 219, then you get hit with 2000+ms pings. It was suppose to be fixed when they did the maintenence on the internatinal link, in fact all of us on IP 219 had good pings for one day after the said maintenence. After that the ping when back to 2000+ms.

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Some of us cannot seem to hit the 218.* and 60.* IPs, it seems.

But then, I give up after 5 mins or so... no patience!

Can anyone write a VB script to automatically connect and disconnect until you get either the 218.* or 60.* IP range.


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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 2 2005, 10:26 AM)
Some of us cannot seem to hit the 218.* and 60.* IPs, it seems.

But then, I give up after 5 mins or so... no patience!

Can anyone write a VB script to automatically connect and disconnect until you get either the 218.* or 60.* IP range.
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that would be great for some of us too
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QUOTE(rastaroofus @ Apr 2 2005, 02:01 AM)
Just wanted to answer sanylcs' question on Time broadband.

I use Time broadband at work, and I get 300-500 latency. Unfortunately, I can't stay at work 24/7.

I am getting 2000-3000+ at home though. Streamyx sooo sucks. And I'm paying RM88 for a 400+kbps line which should be ~1mbps.

ARGH. ARGH. ARGH.
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lol, let us switch to Time Broadband just for WoW rolleyes.gif

i will be very please if TMnet tell me that the maintenence on international link is still going on otherwise switching to Time Broadband might be the best choice unsure.gif
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QUOTE(sanylcs @ Apr 2 2005, 12:11 PM)
lol, let us switch to Time Broadband just for WoW  rolleyes.gif

i will be very please if TMnet tell me that the maintenence on international link is still going on otherwise switching to Time Broadband might be the best choice  unsure.gif
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Hmm TMNet will be slow in doing their maintenace part but everyone here seems like there are willing to give another Monday for them, so I guess its pretty reasonable. Besides, the fact TMnet did a maintenace is a good thing cause before the 24th, I think I was getting around 1k~1.4k ping most of the time in high pop zones, so It was already lagging. it was funny though that during the maintenace period my ping has jumped from 2k consistently to 3k consistently now right after the day of yellow bar latency heh.
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well, i do hope TMnet is doing their work on the latency.
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Is anyone else facing problem logging on to WoW?
I can't even reach the www.worldofwarcraft.com website...
and this has been happening since evening.


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Is anyone else facing problem logging on to WoW?
I can't even reach the www.worldofwarcraft.com website...
and this has been happening since evening.
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only WoW websites or all other websites also?
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only WoW website.
anyway, saw your postings, reboot my modem to get a different IP and it works after that...
strange...
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i wanna ask how u get ip range 60.*.*.*? what isp is that?

anywayz the internet is really a stupid thing. no initiative to improve it.
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Now the line is totally whacked mad.gif

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 4 ms <1 ms <1 ms 10.1.1.1
2 41 ms 21 ms 26 ms 219.93.218.177
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.216.5
4 24 ms 25 ms 47 ms 210.187.129.138
5 21 ms 45 ms 23 ms 203.106.230.133
6 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 * * * Request timed out.
8 21 ms 21 ms 46 ms 210.187.132.81
9 * * * Request timed out.
10 20 ms 31 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 22 ms 24 ms 21 ms 210.187.132.81
13 * 122 ms * 210.187.132.83
14 21 ms 22 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81
15 132 ms 132 ms 111 ms 210.187.132.83
16 21 ms 22 ms 20 ms 210.187.132.81
17 118 ms 113 ms 117 ms 210.187.132.83
18 20 ms 21 ms 27 ms 210.187.132.81
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 36 ms 25 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81
21 116 ms 116 ms 111 ms 210.187.132.83
22 26 ms 22 ms 21 ms 210.187.132.81
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 36 ms 22 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81
25 229 ms 112 ms * 210.187.132.83
26 22 ms 22 ms 21 ms 210.187.132.81
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 22 ms 48 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 61 ms 37 ms 22 ms 210.187.132.81

Trace complete.
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Yep, even the game can't be accessed! This is streamyx's problem.
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OMG!! is it just me or all of us including NA and australian players can't get in!!! i tell u its either blizzzard is taking our money or tmnet is taking our money!!! wait both of them are taking our money. screw both of them! they both sux anyway!
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i think blizzard server is down

edit: its not, its streamyx

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Crud, if only streamyx, then my guildmate is probably dead, hehe... I was taking him thru a run in Arathi to get some elemental charms.
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I found out that users which logg on with a 219.95.xxx.xxx have a problem with connection, users who logon to 219.94.xxx.xxx dont seem to have much problem, example : me. But the 218.xxx.xxx.xxx dns server is still better, i wonder when tmnet will ever fix this =/
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so do we ever get to play wow..?
i paid 6 months for the game but all these streamnut problem ATE my
1 month away....

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Alright call number #11 to StramyX - this is what I get (Summarized): We (Tmnet) cant do anything about it because it is beyond our boundries (International server) and they said congestion. So I told them that this is ridiculous - it was fine 3 weeks ago.

They told me to contact At&T myself. I told them, when you buy something which is faulty - you return to the seller - not HIS distributor right ? This is absurd. Many pages behind this thread I've already emailed AT&T and have not gotten a reply yet. TmNet said they have contacted AT&T.

Spent 1 hour 35 mins on the last call - talking and talking. At the end of it, I just asked the supervisor - you're a consumer yourself, what do you suggest we as consumers to do ? He said, contact AT&T.

This is the first IP causing problems: 12.188.44.5

OrgName: AT&T WorldNet Services
OrgID: ATTW
Address: AT&T
Address: 200 S. LAUREL AVE.
City: MIDDLETOWN
StateProv: NJ
PostalCode: 07748
Country: US

NetRange: 12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255
CIDR: 12.0.0.0/8
NetName: ATT
NetHandle: NET-12-0-0-0-1
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NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: DMTU.MT.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: CBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: CMTU.MT.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
Comment: For abuse issues contact abuse@att.net
RegDate: 1983-08-23
Updated: 2002-08-23

TechHandle: DK71-ARIN
TechName: Kostick, Deirdre
TechPhone: +1-919-319-8249
TechEmail: help@ip.att.net

OrgAbuseHandle: ATTAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ATT Abuse
OrgAbusePhone: +1-919-319-8130
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@att.net

OrgTechHandle: ICC-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP Customer Care
OrgTechPhone: +1-888-613-6330
OrgTechEmail: qhoang@att.com

OrgTechHandle: IPSWI-ARIN
OrgTechName: IP SWIP
OrgTechPhone: +1-888-613-6330
OrgTechEmail: help@ip.att.net

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wanna bet AT&T will refer you back to SteamX?

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This is BS! It's obvious something is wrong with TMNet here, not AT&T. We're paying premium price for high-speed broadband and they're providing us with less than what a true ADSL connection can do even with all the overhead factored in!

Plus, I've noticed a pattern here. The latency drops from 3000 to about 1700-1900 around 4-6am in the morning. Congestion at our local routers? This happened to me for the past 3 days.

Xeoalpha, you're our champion here! 1 hour 35 minutes, that's impressive! I bet the person answering you has bleeding ears now.

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It is pretty unlikely that it is AT&T fault cause everyone else will be lagging if that happens. Anyway, this is really getting frustrating..for 2 weeks I haven't been doing anything like level increase to my character so I am way behind my guildmates now which is not cool. The latency itself is also getting worse. I think its most suitable to change the thread title to 3k pings! heh

If steamryx refuses to acknowledge that its their problem, so be it. I won't give a damn with them and move over to other ISP...still things are easier said thatn done lol cause only Maxis Wireless Broadband is available in the area and the start up fee is RM500..not good....
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Maxis WBB is too expensive. How about Jaring BB? I've heard some horror stories about it but if it provides an overall better service, I'd rather dump Streamyx.

About changing the name, it should be 4k by now as I'm playing at 3.8k now!

EDIT: Anybody thinking about writing to The Star's InTech column? I remember reading that a few editors there are playing WoW too (beta or retail, I can't remember). Maybe a little publicity will give TMNet a little innitiative to fix the issue.

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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 3 2005, 03:13 PM)
Alright call number #11 to StramyX - this is what I get (Summarized): We (Tmnet) cant do anything about it because it is beyond our boundries (International server) and they said congestion. So I told them that this is ridiculous - it was fine 3 weeks ago.

They told me to contact At&T myself. I told them, when you buy something which is faulty - you return to the seller - not HIS distributor right ? This is absurd. Many pages behind this thread I've already emailed AT&T and have not gotten a reply yet. TmNet said they have contacted AT&T.

Spent 1 hour 35 mins on the last call - talking and talking. At the end of it, I just asked the supervisor - you're a consumer yourself, what do you suggest we as consumers to do ? He said, contact AT&T.

This is the first IP causing problems: 12.188.44.5

OrgName:    AT&T WorldNet Services
OrgID:      ATTW
Address:    AT&T
Address:    200 S. LAUREL AVE.
City:      MIDDLETOWN
StateProv:  NJ
PostalCode: 07748
Country:    US

NetRange:  12.0.0.0 - 12.255.255.255
CIDR:      12.0.0.0/8
NetName:    ATT
NetHandle:  NET-12-0-0-0-1
Parent:   
NetType:    Direct Allocation
NameServer: DBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: DMTU.MT.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: CBRU.BR.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
NameServer: CMTU.MT.NS.ELS-GMS.ATT.NET
Comment:    For abuse issues contact abuse@att.net
RegDate:    1983-08-23
Updated:    2002-08-23

TechHandle: DK71-ARIN
TechName:  Kostick, Deirdre
TechPhone:  +1-919-319-8249
TechEmail:  help@ip.att.net

OrgAbuseHandle: ATTAB-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:  ATT Abuse
OrgAbusePhone:  +1-919-319-8130
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@att.net

OrgTechHandle: ICC-ARIN
OrgTechName:  IP Customer Care
OrgTechPhone:  +1-888-613-6330
OrgTechEmail:  qhoang@att.com

OrgTechHandle: IPSWI-ARIN
OrgTechName:  IP SWIP
OrgTechPhone:  +1-888-613-6330
OrgTechEmail:  help@ip.att.net
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Don't block a fat man from his hamburger! Same goes for gamers and their precious games! *sigh* Desperate here. Even the 'Network and Broadband" threads on LYN is talking about the lag.

I've made a post in the tech. forums of WoW. If you guys would just kindly, make a remark that you have the same problem - I would greatly appreciate it.

I cut out the IP's and number of hops in the trace - no support for us Malaysians. Unless you're an American, Australian residing here.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...upport&t=247161

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Mistake - hang on.

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you sure you wanna do that? we are technically illegals in WoW.
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 3 2005, 06:19 PM)
Don't block a fat man from his hamburger! Same goes for gamers and their precious games! *sigh* Desperate here. Even the 'Network and Broadband" threads on LYN is talking about the lag.

I've made a post in the tech. forums of WoW. If you guys would just kindly, make a remark that you have the same problem - I would greatly appreciate it.

I cut out the IP's and number of hops in the trace - no support for us Malaysians. Unless you're an American, Australian residing here.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.a...upport&t=247161
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I think you're out of luck there. Technically if we're playing from outside NA, NZ and AU, you're not covered under their tech support.

We can only pray tmnet does something soon and fix it to how it was a month ago. sad.gif
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No, WoW TOS states that Americans and Australian's worldwide are still able to play the game. At this rate, NO ONE in Malaysia can play.

Besides, I removed the Initial Malaysian IP's in my post.
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i would post if my account wasn't frozen. i think i wouldn't go upload the account until there isn't any lag. well, it kind sad and bore without WoW.

ty for info Xeo. at least i understood that the problem from the AT&T. This isn't a good news well. mayb we should find out wat happen at the IP 12.118.44.5 and those that come later all have high ping. This i think could only answer by AT&T.
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It will totally suck without WoW. I really don't know how to get back to my pre-WoW life if you ask me...serious! I will be damn frustrated too at the very least if I am being forced to leave WoW as a result of the constant bad latency and not because the game gets boring that I decided to quit.
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QUOTE(sanylcs @ Apr 3 2005, 10:29 PM)
i would post if my account wasn't frozen. i think i wouldn't go upload the account until there isn't any lag. well, it kind sad and bore without WoW.

ty for info Xeo. at least i understood that the problem from the AT&T. This isn't a good news well. mayb we should find out wat happen at the IP 12.118.44.5 and those that come later all have high ping. This i think could only answer by AT&T.
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The high pings from AT&T doesn't mean its AT&T problem. It might mean there is a routing problem between Streamyx and AT&T that causes the high pings.
TMnet don't control the international links so it make sense to say that they cannot do anything about it, IF its a link problem. I've called them before Xeoalpha did and they told me the same thing that they told Xeoalpha. I told them if the problem lies in AT&T, why only our IP 219.xxx.xxx.xxx is having that problem and not others. He couldn't answer me and told me he will check and call me back. That was a week ago.....

Frankly, I believe TMNet should escalate the problem to AT&T, IF its AT&T's fault, not us as the end-user. I doubt AT&T will entertain us since we're not their paying customer.

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What we ALL can do is to e-mail TMnet customer care and briefly tell them about our problems and link this message thread in our e-mail.

I guess with enough mails, someone in TMnet should take notice and do something abut it....... I hope.
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wat u said is so reasonable. who can answer y only 219.xxx.xxx.xxx IP cause the problem?

mayb who with 218.xxx.xxx.xxx or whoever face latency less than 1k, plz post ur tracert.txt.
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Tracing route to cnn.com [64.236.16.84]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 16 ms 14 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 19 ms 13 ms 27 ms 219.93.216.109
3 24 ms 12 ms 14 ms 219.93.155.33
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
5 14 ms 13 ms 18 ms 210.187.142.1
6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
7 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms 210.187.129.171
8 692 ms 684 ms 701 ms POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.145]
9 2144 ms 2169 ms 2148 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
10 692 ms 693 ms 698 ms 0.so-6-0-0.XL2.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.129]
11 2217 ms 2236 ms 2214 ms 0.so-7-0-0.BR1.SCL2.ALTER.NET [152.63.57.101]
12 743 ms 755 ms 739 ms pop2-sjg-P3-3.atdn.net [66.185.141.213]
13 2237 ms 2205 ms 2196 ms bb2-sjg-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.150.98]
14 2212 ms 2232 ms 2220 ms bb2-las-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.22]
15 2227 ms 2244 ms 2253 ms bb1-las-P2-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.24]
16 2280 ms 2240 ms 2237 ms bb1-pho-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.27]
17 2189 ms 2158 ms 2135 ms bb2-pho-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.37]
18 2204 ms 2216 ms 2255 ms bb2-hou-P6-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.106]
19 2181 ms 2514 ms 2317 ms bb1-hou-P1-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.152]
20 2247 ms 2273 ms 2238 ms bb1-atm-P7-0.atdn.net [66.185.152.184]
21 2196 ms 2175 ms 2344 ms pop1-atl-P4-0.atdn.net [66.185.136.17]
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

seem like many internet nodes is high ping to us

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I'm starting to lose hope here. Please tell me this will be fixed soon:(

EDIT: It's impossible to get 218.x.x.x or 60.x.x.x at my place. With 219.x.x.x being so slow, I've no idea how long I can take this.

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I hope this last....
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The person I spoke did mention that it's only the 219 IP range having issues because, it's being filtered or blocked by AT&T.
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Yes he did mentioned that to me too. What he told me was that AT&T was IP filtering/blocking 219 IP range, due to abuses by users in this range.

Now, if you think about this, filtering or blocking WILL prevent you from accessing AT&T hosted sites, NOT creating high pings. So his reasoning is wrong.

All of ISP in the world or even hosted sites will normally completely bans users from suspected IP range due to rampant abuses. This effectively blocks ALL users from these IP range from accessing their hosted sites. Our case here is very different, we can access their site but at a super slow speed. Nothing to do with bandwitdh, since we can download patches from blizzard at expected bandwidth speed. Its the 2-4secs delays that is killing online gaming.
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If 219.* is indeed being blocked by AT&T, then I'm pretty sure it's for a good reason - cracking attempts, DOS attacks or something like that.

In which case, good job, Streamyx community of Malaysia! You have probably shown that you lack the maturity to use broadband connections without engaging in illegal activities.

I suppose I could get a few friends Stateside to check up on this for me.

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Is it linked to the issue some time back of TMNet being blacklisted by some international companies? http://star-techcentral.com/tech/story.asp...&sec=technology
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As I said in the earlier post, if we are blocked, we wont be able to play WoW at all. This problem we're facing has nothing to do with blocked IPs.
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As I said in the earlier post, if we are blocked, we wont be able to play WoW at all. This problem we're facing has nothing to do with blocked IPs.
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Consider the fact that even if you were not blocked by the DESTINATION IP - Blizzard WoW server, in this case - you are still being blocked by some of the nodes along the way, forcing your connection to take a much longer way to the destination.. resulting in higher pings.

Here's how abuses are handled most of the time...

When an abuse is detected, the target ISP contacts the ISP of the offender to request for action. Offender's ISP in most countries like the US, Canada and Australia almost always take action, resulting in the offender being banned, at which point life carries on.

Blanket IP range bans only occur when the target ISP does not get the cooperation of the offender's ISP, giving it no choice but to block entire IP ranges. I believe this is what has happened here, if Streamyx 219.* is indeed being blocked.

AT&T
Streamyx, we have detected an abuse event coming from 219.95.*.* at 09:56 on the 11th of March 2005. We request that you take action.

Streamyx
Sorry, we don't know.. Can't help you.

AT&T
We have no choice but to block the entire IP range then *click*


So, you have two culprits here...

1) The original offender(s)
2) The ISP for not cooperating, either through incompetence or idiocy.

Can't really do anything about the ISP, so for eff-ing sakes, guys... you can do something about the other one. Stop doing anything that gives them the slightest reason to block the IPs, eh?

But like I said earlier, I'll just get a friend on the other side to check up on this, although I'm not personally affected by this mess to any great extent.



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The person I spoke did mention that it's only the 219 IP range having issues because, it's being filtered or blocked by AT&T.
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I don't think AT&T implemented a total complete blocking from tmnet IP block. That is not likely the case. Filtering of icmp/trace route packets is quite common nowadays.
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In any case, can someone on 219.95.*.* log into an eastern and western server at about 11:40 and report the latency rates you are getting in-game?

For those that don't recall the server locations before Blizz amalmagated them...

You can use Tichondrius for west, and maybe Stormrage for east.

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i think this issue should go to paper. It will push streamyx to get to action.

once, i did involved in telekom meeting on a big technical issue (my company was a contractor that time), their higher level people take all these poor services thing very very seriously.

the problem is (with us currently), their high level people doesn't know (i think). for them, they see that broadband bandwith is good and all is ok. they didn't know there is 1-2 sec delay, which is not really affecting surfers and downloaders, but affecting people who involve in online activity. so, the point is, to make higher level people know.

if properly written (this part i suck), the star will love this tongue.gif call it 'concern from online community'. maybe they will see it as minor things since it's a game, but we just need to inform them this has becoming lifestyle and big industry or evolving market, so malaysia should not be left out for something like this - just because of bad service..... just to get their attention. something like that... told ya i'm bad at writing this tongue.gif

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QUOTE(keylink @ Apr 4 2005, 11:35 AM)
i think this issue should go to paper. It will push streamyx to get to action.

once, i did involved in telekom meeting on a big technical issue (my company was a contractor that time), their higher level people take all these poor services thing very very seriously.

the problem is (with us currently), their high level people doesn't know (i think). for them, they see that broadband bandwith is good and all is ok. they didn't know there is 1-2 sec delay, which is not really affecting surfers and downloaders, but affecting people who involve in online activity. so, the point is, to make higher level people know.

if properly written (this part i suck), the star will love this  tongue.gif call it 'concern from online community'. maybe they will see it as minor things since it's a game, but we just need to inform them this has becoming lifestyle and big industry or evolving market, so malaysia should not be left out for something like this - just because of bad service..... just to get their attention. something like that... told ya i'm bad at writing this  tongue.gif

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Yes, that the problem. As long as general surfing speed is ok on hotmail and others very few people will take notice of the slow ping so people won't really know. The other time hotmail took minutes to load everyone was talking shit about streamyx and it only took them over the weekend(2 days) to fix it not the 2 weeks and counting that is now. Maybe someone can post to Jeffooi.com or The Star InTech which is pretty good as it will always guarantee a response from the TMNet side.
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Just managed to get a 218.x.x.x ip and now my ping is 400 to the server..it's definitely the 219.x.x.x range that's the problem.
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Dear AT&T,

Hello, my name is Nicholas and I am a resident of Malaysia. Over the past 3 and 1/2 weeks, the Malaysian community of the game, World of Warcraft - Which AT&T is the host provider for; have been experiencing severe lag on your IP range. We, the community are very sure that the IP range starting from 219.xxx.xxx.xxx are having problems. Ranges starting fro 218. and 60. have no problems. Our local ISP (riding on AT&T's internet backbone) say's that this is not their problem, as this is a issue with the AT&T network cloud.

We know we are not blocked as downloads are still alright. However, playing online games and web browsing is extremely slow (and unstable). We are seeing pings to US servers (Such as CNN or Microsoft) at 2000-6000ms on a T1 Broadband connection.

Below are tracert results. Could you please check into it and eMail me back ?
Please note this is my 3rd email to AT&T and my 5th eMail to TMNet (The local ISP on the AT&T Backbone).

Thank you very much.

Regards,
NicholasC.

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms 219.93.218.177
2 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.216.109
3 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.155.41
4 15 ms 15 ms 27 ms 210.187.132.83
5 15 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.174.67
6 312 ms 312 ms 312 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1796 ms 1796 ms 1796 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1921 ms 1890 ms 1921 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1828 ms 1843 ms 1843 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 1921 ms 1968 ms 1968 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 1843 ms 1863 ms 1867 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
12 1913 ms 1937 ms 1941 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 1942 ms 1921 ms 1906 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
14 2030 ms 2031 ms 2031 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.110]


Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.114]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177
2 46 ms 119 ms 17 ms 219.93.216.109
3 12 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.155.33
4 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms 210.187.133.83
5 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
6 306 ms 306 ms 307 ms 219.93.153.158
7 1639 ms 1499 ms 1561 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1668 ms 1387 ms 1702 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1781 ms 1375 ms * tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 984 ms 870 ms 833 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
11 * * * Request timed out.
12 769 ms 770 ms 779 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 4157 ms 620 ms 715 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
15 * * * Request timed out.
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.

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I made a topic report on the LYN's network forum: Here.

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i'm getting sick of this. if this goes on.....dun tell me have to wait for localized version of wow only can play.....

call streamyx they say this is nationwide problem and they are fixing... email them till now no reply, but my streamyx bill come on time. wtf....

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Guys.. i think its time to do something..... protest, petition or to the media..

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Consider the fact that even if you were not blocked by the DESTINATION IP - Blizzard WoW server, in this case - you are still being blocked by some of the nodes along the way, forcing your connection to take a much longer way to the destination.. resulting in higher pings.

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Agreed. But take a look at our situation here, the number of hops are the same before and after we started having the bad lags. So I don't think there are blocked nodes that forces us to use a different path. Furthermore the lag started the moment we hit AT&T gateway not somewhere along the hop deep into AT&T network.

unless the tracert doesn't show everything........

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218 IP Results:

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.worldofwarcraft.cOM

Tracing route to worldofwarcraft.cOM [12.129.217.201]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 34 ms 34 ms 35 ms 219.93.218.177
2 33 ms 33 ms 32 ms 219.93.216.189
3 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms 210.187.143.1
4 34 ms 33 ms 34 ms 210.187.143.5
5 37 ms 36 ms 35 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
6 33 ms 33 ms 33 ms 210.187.133.83
7 34 ms 34 ms 34 ms 219.93.174.83
8 328 ms 329 ms 328 ms 219.93.153.158
9 332 ms 331 ms 331 ms 12.118.44.5
10 333 ms 352 ms 333 ms 12.123.8.50
11 336 ms 397 ms 373 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
12 339 ms 337 ms 340 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
13 335 ms 335 ms 336 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
14 338 ms 336 ms 336 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
15 346 ms 345 ms 344 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
16 337 ms 335 ms 334 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
250]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


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Holy crikey! NVIDAFX! My gf and I want to move to your place so we can play WoW!

Can you please do a tracert on to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com please and post here ?
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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 4 2005, 01:58 PM)
Well, someone post the trace from either 218.* or 60.*

Seems the routing tables need a-fixin' to not have to go through 12.129.192.*
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Don't understand your meaning.. smile.gif
Anything after 12.129.192.* is already inside Blizzard's network, which is filtered by Blizzard, hence the timed out. This is clarified by Blizzard support which I listed in a link earlier.
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Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
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C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 36 ms 40 ms 35 ms 219.93.218.177
2 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms 219.93.216.189
3 33 ms 34 ms 34 ms 210.187.142.1
4 34 ms 33 ms 34 ms 210.187.142.5
5 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
6 34 ms 34 ms 33 ms 210.187.133.83
7 34 ms 33 ms 33 ms 219.93.174.83
8 328 ms 328 ms 327 ms 219.93.153.158
9 330 ms 331 ms 330 ms 12.118.44.5
10 331 ms 333 ms 332 ms 12.123.8.50
11 336 ms 336 ms 336 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
12 333 ms 333 ms 332 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
13 333 ms 332 ms 332 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
14 332 ms 332 ms 331 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
15 340 ms 340 ms 340 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
16 341 ms 340 ms 340 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
110]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


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Just to comfirm there are probems with the 219.* range

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.115]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.2
2 21 ms 22 ms 33 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.21
4 20 ms 21 ms 74 ms 210.187.129.138
5 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms 203.106.230.133
6 21 ms 22 ms 24 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 24 ms 22 ms 23 ms 210.187.133.83
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.174.83
9 319 ms 317 ms 337 ms 219.93.153.158
10 1885 ms 1811 ms 1821 ms 12.118.44.5

i did a reboot till i got a 218.* IP and this is my tracert

[root@vodkawasabi root]# traceroute us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
traceroute: Warning: us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com has multiple addresses; using 12.129.232.111
traceroute to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com (12.129.232.111), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 219.93.218.177 (219.93.218.177) 24.754 ms 21.904 ms 21.349 ms
2 219.93.216.29 (219.93.216.29) 20.569 ms 19.801 ms 32.181 ms
3 210.187.129.138 (210.187.129.138) 19.842 ms 20.532 ms 20.123 ms
4 203.106.230.133 (203.106.230.133) 21.328 ms 22.494 ms 19.627 ms
5 klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my (210.187.135.13) 21.320 ms 20.256 ms 21.598 ms
6 210.187.133.83 (210.187.133.83) 22.303 ms 22.226 ms 21.354 ms
7 219.93.174.83 (219.93.174.83) 22.058 ms 22.260 ms 21.616 ms
8 219.93.153.158 (219.93.153.158) 316.283 ms 316.447 ms 316.033 ms
9 12.118.44.5 (12.118.44.5) 323.684 ms 322.835 ms 323.695 ms


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Let's try to see if there's a pattern that is helpful here...

To those people that have been successful in getting 218.* or 60.* IPs, can you please answer these questions...

1) What's the average number of times you need to disconnect/reconnect from a 219.* IP before you successfully get the desired IP?

2) Method used to reinitialise connection - software reboot (PPPoE software) or hardware reboot (powering off the modem itself)?

3) Are you using the default TMnet DNS set - i.e. 202.188.0.132/133 + 202.188.1.5?

4) Your location.. DSLAM used, if possible?

5) Mode used - G.dmt, G.lite, etc...

As many responses as possible please...

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Good call Wildside. smile.gif
I wanna know too..........
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Honestly, I'm just trying to help as many people as I can...

Getting tired of playing on Stormrage all alone, whilst my WoW-kaki keep getting stuck with the absurdly high latency.

Will be particularly interested if there are any people in the TTDI/Damansara area who are successfully getting 218.* and 60.* IPs, and how they are doing it.

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omg..now it's my turn to get 2.5K ping!!! Help guys..... sad.gif
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QUOTE(daniel31 @ Apr 4 2005, 02:50 PM)
omg..now it's my turn to get 2.5K ping!!! Help guys.....  sad.gif
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take your number at the counter and wait for your turn tongue.gif tongue.gif

jk jk tongue.gif tongue.gif

yeah, hopefully we will get a solution
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Compare IP 218,

9 330 ms 331 ms 330 ms 12.118.44.5
10 331 ms 333 ms 332 ms 12.123.8.50
11 336 ms 336 ms 336 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
12 333 ms 333 ms 332 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]

with 219:

7 1796 ms 1796 ms 1796 ms 12.118.44.5
8 1921 ms 1890 ms 1921 ms 12.123.8.50
9 1828 ms 1843 ms 1843 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
10 1921 ms 1968 ms 1968 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]

12.118.44.5 conflicts with our Malaysia 219 range.

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Id like to know the answers to wildside's questions too. Any can make a call to TMNET? Im at work now, I can't call.

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Did you guys get frequent disconnection last nite?
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And just in case there are people who don't want to answer the questions because you are concerned that the 219.* people will flood your precious 218.* and 60.* IPs and increase your latency, let me assure you that's not how it works.

Everyone will still be using the common Streamyx bandwidth and infrastructure. It's just a matter on getting on the routing table/schedule that's not borked. Routing table setups cannot be discerned from traceroutes BTW. It's largely transparent, which is why I am asking the questions...


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Just made a 50 minute call to TMNet tech support. No luck again. The guys on the other side is as clueless ... oh wait... not as we are. He's just plain clueless doh.gif

Basically I told him every possible problem that we're facing (219.x.x.x range issue, possibility of IP filtering, routing table issues...yadda yadda) and after minutes of discussions, he finally agreed to send in a report. That guy kept rambling on how this must be my router issue! I've already told him this is not only my problem, but he went on and on.

I'll call back tomorrow to check on the report status. No use checking today, I doubt they'll even lift a finger by tonight. I'll keep you all posted on this.

@sherly: No DC yesterday. Just friggin' high latency!

PS: What software are you using to reconnect? My router doesn't have the reconnect button and I hate having to reboot everytime (it takes nearly 1 minute to get reconnected!). I'm using a prolink 9000g router.

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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 4 2005, 02:35 PM)
Let's try to see if there's a pattern that is helpful here...

To those people that have been successful in getting 218.* or 60.* IPs, can you please answer these questions...

1) What's the average number of times you need to disconnect/reconnect from a 219.* IP before you successfully get the desired IP?

2) Method used to reinitialise connection - software reboot (PPPoE software) or hardware reboot (powering off the modem itself)?

3) Are you using the default TMnet DNS set - i.e. 202.188.0.132/133 + 202.188.1.5?

4) Your location.. DSLAM used, if possible?

5) Mode used - G.dmt, G.lite, etc...

As many responses as possible please...
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1) i only did it only once today... lucky me..
2) i did a software reboot
3) using the default 202.188.0.133 and 202.188.1.5
4) not sure.. i stay around USJ if that helps
5) how do i check the mode...

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To reconnect, i just power off and power on the router tongue.gif
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Haha...power off and on. Riiiggghhhtt. All I do is click the reboot button in the control panel. Very, very hi-tech.

So, how's Jaring BB? Anybody played WoW with that? If this is goes on for toooo long. I'll ditch Streamyx for JBB. As long as the latency is below 800ms, I'm happy with it.
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yeah several time dc yesterday, checkout the screenshot thread, 282 queues 2 times (cap 282? or just coincident), im sure tmnet problem.
btw yay new signature, nicely done smile.gif at last u guys do some action smile.gif

1 more thing, my dsl light blinking several times, make my game lagging like hell when climbing to top of IF ( everybody should go there, nice scenery), but after 1 minute everything ok. i think tmnet "fixing" something.

wildside:
i get to u asap, rite now at off cant test, but last time i try less than 5 times to get desired ip (i just dc and reconnect tongue.gif),
1st attempt connect 219, test wow, 400ms....then BooMMM 1K...2K....3K.... heh remind me quake2 online using dial up fragging using railgun in 2 sec "assume" headshot.
2nd to 4rd attempt, at last get 218, play 400~700ms, playable.. smile.gif
Sometimes i saja2 reconnect and get 60.* ....better 300~500...max to 600

me using Gdmt, coz Glite unstable last time i test.
me using Xasda default modem (RM88package)
me using 202.188.0.133 + 202.188.1.5

wat else... i think thats all i can tell, and me live shah alam, so not sure which DSLAM used..(tak ingat da.. doh.gif )

lastly, my char have only 2 weeks left....before it rest at top of IF unsure.gif cry.gif
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I have just got five people in four different locations resetting their modes to g.dmt, using the default TMNet DNS values and using Windows XP built in PPPoE functionality to 'soft' disconnect/reconnect - i.e. modem stays powered all through.

one person in SS2 - no luck, still stuck on 219.* after 12 tries.
one person in Bandar Utama - no luck, still stuck on 219.* after 8 tries.
two people in TTDI - stuck on 219.* after 9 tries and 11 tries respectively.
one person in Bukit Damansara - stuck on 219.* after 11 tries.

I think we can conclude that the swath of DSLAMS extending from Bangsar all the way down the Sprint to Bandar Utama is 'pre-programmed' towards the 219.* block... at least using the default Streamyx settings.

Looks like bad news for people living in those areas.. unless I hear differently from people here.



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This is what I get connecting from Shah Alam.

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.112]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 25 ms 43 ms 26 ms 219.93.218.177
3 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms 219.93.216.181
4 22 ms 21 ms 22 ms 210.187.143.1
5 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 210.187.143.5
6 24 ms 26 ms 25 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 24 ms 26 ms 25 ms 210.187.133.83
8 24 ms 26 ms 26 ms 219.93.174.83
9 318 ms 319 ms 318 ms 219.93.153.158
10 1657 ms 1672 ms 1662 ms 12.118.44.5
11 1630 ms 1638 ms 1626 ms 12.123.8.50
12 737 ms 730 ms 746 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
13 1696 ms 1706 ms 1700 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
14 1676 ms 1674 ms 1706 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
15 1772 ms 1799 ms 1784 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 1689 ms 1666 ms 1642 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 1700 ms 1710 ms 1716 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
18 * * * Request timed out.
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Sucks...I tried the method to disconnect and reconnect the phone line. no such luck even after the 30th attempt on trying to get 218. It looks like its pre-programmed for 219.xx too. This really sucks. Btw, there are no chance that cybercafes won't be using ISP other than streamyx right? Cause if there is really a cybercafe around that have constant 218.xx IP address given to them...I WILL GO THERE no matter what.

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I don't know this is valid or not, I'm from office and we using leased line. But since mine is also 218.* so I post

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.112]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 218.208.110.225
2 14 ms 13 ms 14 ms 218.208.68.229
3 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 210.187.133.83
4 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83
5 307 ms 307 ms 307 ms 219.93.153.158
6 289 ms 288 ms 289 ms 12.118.44.5
7 292 ms 292 ms 291 ms 12.123.8.50
8 298 ms 296 ms 296 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
9 291 ms 293 ms 292 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
10 289 ms 288 ms 289 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
11 286 ms 286 ms 286 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
12 299 ms 299 ms 299 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
13 295 ms 294 ms 294 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
14 * * * Request timed out.

And my house is at Klang area, which is quite easy to get 218.*** or 219.94.***, which both have latency less than 1k.

Dunno this helps or not tongue.gif
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Klang? Thats my place too and I cannot get into 218 at all. That being said, the most reconnects I tried is 10 times. Maybe I should try more......
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Klang? Thats my place too and I cannot get into 218 at all. That being said, the most reconnects I tried is 10 times. Maybe I should try more......
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once it is 7-8 pm, it will not be possible anymore. I dont know why. So usually I connect when I arrive after work, usually before 7.

If after 7, I will hunt the 219.94.*** ip.

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i'm livin in ss19 subang jaya and i've been reconnecting hundreds of times today but no luck.. still stuck on the 219.95 range sad.gif not just WoW pinging webchat servers also 1000++ sad.gif

Pinging webmaster.webchat.org [216.152.64.151] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 216.152.64.151: bytes=32 time=2040ms TTL=50
Reply from 216.152.64.151: bytes=32 time=2110ms TTL=50
Reply from 216.152.64.151: bytes=32 time=1977ms TTL=50
Reply from 216.152.64.151: bytes=32 time=2111ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 216.152.64.151:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 1977ms, Maximum = 2111ms, Average = 2059ms

so sad lor..
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Hmmm, interesting seeing people living in approximately the same area, with some having no problems connecting to alternate IPs and some almost seeing it impossible doing so.

I think it may be more than a geographic thing, and maybe something to do with modem and connection settings as well...

Will try some experiments tonight...

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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 4 2005, 05:37 PM)
Hmmm, interesting seeing people living in approximately the same area, with some having no problems connecting to alternate IPs and some almost seeing  it impossible doing so.

I think it may be more than a geographic thing, and maybe something to do with modem and connection settings as well...

Will try some experiments tonight...
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And to make matters worse, I happen to be stuck at the Authenticating stage connecting to the WoW server now.

This will be a very... 'interesting' evening wink.gif

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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 4 2005, 06:35 PM)
And to make matters worse, I happen to be stuck at the Authenticating stage connecting to the WoW server now.

This will be a very... 'interesting' evening wink.gif
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Hmmm..... logging on is extremely slow, but once entered it's 2800ms.

So, are we all going to reconnect like mad everytime we want to play WoW? This is a sure way to kill our routers/modem.

I've tried over 10 times just now. Still stuck at 219.95.x.x. Looks like it's impossibile to get other IP address range here in Section 28 Shah Alam.


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Damn.. really pitty u guys man.. with 218.xxx ping i can get around 500-700MS
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well, me at Selayang, Selangor (near Kepong), i never got any IP other than 219.95.xxx.xxx

i tried around 40-50 times i think, total up all times ^^
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I think the difference lies in the klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13] gateway and the brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]. From the traceroute posted by people in the forums. Those that pass through klj experience only 300ms lag where else the one passing through the brf hop always experience 2k-4k lag...like the one in my house. As of now, I am currently playing in a cybercafe in SS15 and it went through the klj link...been playing for 4 hours now and constant 400-600ms on average(funny how when my house is so near)....Maybe the 208.xx passes through the klj hops that greatly reduce lag but I think we as a consumer should be able to demand to access this route
rather than to call to those lousy TMNet support staff that knows nothing of the current status of their maintenace.

I contacted the TMNet support staff and they told that under major maintenace it only takes 2 weeks for everything to be back to normal. However, this current situation we are facing is going into the 3rd week, so its really no excuse for them
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This is the tracert result I got when playing in a cybercafe at SS15

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Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.109]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.0.1
2 * 2 ms 7 ms 210.187.114.109
3 10 ms 9 ms 12 ms 219.93.218.176
4 * 8 ms 8 ms 219.93.216.185
5 10 ms 9 ms 7 ms 210.187.143.1
6 8 ms 7 ms 8 ms 210.187.143.5
7 8 ms 9 ms 8 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
8 * * 9 ms 210.187.133.83
9 8 ms 8 ms 10 ms 219.93.174.83
10 303 ms 302 ms 303 ms 219.93.153.158
11 294 ms 294 ms 294 ms 12.118.44.5
12 296 ms 298 ms 296 ms 12.123.8.50
13 307 ms 307 ms 309 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
14 312 ms 311 ms 312 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
15 310 ms 310 ms 310 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
16 311 ms 310 ms 310 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
17 321 ms 323 ms 322 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
18 320 ms 319 ms 320 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
110]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.

Trace complete.


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i got facinating testing rite now testing 219, and 60, and tracert... very interesting.. brb i go upload ss

219:
user posted imageuser posted image

60:
user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

218:
user posted imageuser posted imageuser posted image

base on naked observation, on tracert "response", its takes a LONG time to reach no "6" "219.93.153.158', but the response a bit fast for 12.118.44.5.. and so on...the rest is rimeout. smile.gif

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 4 2005, 08:13 PM)
I think the difference lies in the klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13] gateway and the brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]. From the traceroute posted by people in the forums. Those that pass through klj experience only 300ms lag where else the one passing through the brf hop always experience 2k-4k lag...like the one in my house. As of now, I am currently playing in a cybercafe in SS15 and it went through the klj link...been playing for 4 hours now and constant 400-600ms on average(funny how when my house is so near)....Maybe the 208.xx passes through the klj hops that greatly reduce lag but I think we as a consumer should be able to demand to access this route
rather than to call to those lousy TMNet support staff that knows nothing of the current status of their maintenace.

I contacted the TMNet support staff and they told that under major maintenace it only takes 2 weeks for everything to be back to normal. However, this current situation we are facing is going into the 3rd week, so its really no excuse for them
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Wait.... are they still doing maintenance? Why all the conflicting statements? What about 'tmnet not being able to solve the problem and it's AT&T's fault'?

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man i hope tmnet fix this soon
it was damm hard to get 218 ip
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Well, after extensive testing and experimentation to find a reliable way to get 218.* and 60.* in the TTDI/Damansara area, I have one thing to say...

I give up! sad.gif I think I've tried every software and hardware setting I know and I can get it out of the 219.* range for my friends' PCs.

Sorry guys...

Any ideas would be welcome...
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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 4 2005, 08:52 PM)
Wait.... are they still doing maintenance? Why all the conflicting statements? What about 'tmnet not being able to solve the problem and it's AT&T's fault'?
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Thats the thing with TMNet staff not knowing their own products...I think its safe to say that they screwed up their own routing system and they currently have no idea on how to fix it. No such nonsense like AT&T blocking TMNet at all. This is ridiculous when the latency is all good in one side and totally sucks in the other. Anyway, JS Internet has the same latency as mine but the internet cafe behind Public Bank in SS15 has an average of about 450ms in game. Right now I am back on my own PC with a f***ing latency of 3.5k..good god.... I have spend so much on a new PC just to play WoW. It will totally suck ass if I have to spend some more money in a cyber cafe like that.

Anyway, I was pretty satisfied since I make good progress with my warlock in the past 5 hours...........
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Guys, after doing some extensive reading and testing. I know now, there are 2 possiblities:

1. As Ive said back a few pages ago - It's AT&T's cloud starting at 12.118.44.5 which is giving 219. problems.

2. 219 and 218 - What's the difference ? Well 219 is a virtual proxy, it's meant to handle loads of queries and distribute IPs to alot of users. This proxy has been giving alot of people problems. Im not sure why it only seemed to get worst 3 1/2 weeks ago. This proxy might be giving 12.118.44.5 at AT&T problems.
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 5 2005, 01:49 AM)
Guys, after doing some extensive reading and testing. I know now, there are 2 possiblities:

1. As Ive said back a few pages ago - It's AT&T's cloud starting at 12.118.44.5 which is giving 219. problems.

2. 219 and 218 - What's the difference ? Well 219 is a virtual proxy, it's meant to handle loads of queries and distribute IPs to alot of users. This proxy has been giving alot of people problems. Im not sure why it only seemed to get worst 3 1/2 weeks ago. This proxy might be giving 12.118.44.5 at AT&T problems.
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Hmm... good job on find out possible causes. If it's AT&T's cloud, that's a bad sign for us. How we're ever going to play again, I dunno now. Don't think I can tahan levelling my character again on a local server like what I'm doing now.

Damn streamyx! I'm starting to lose hope they'll ever fix this problem. If it's still laggy today, I'll go dust off my xbox and play Halo 2, Splinter Cell 3 or MechAssault 2. Don't think life will be the same anymore w/o WoW cry.gif
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OK this is crap. I CAN connect to the 219.93.xx.xx or 218, but now, the connection goes berserk! I can connect to other websites, but I cannot connect to WoW website or server. This is so f***ed up, stupid TMNut
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Hmmmm... Here are some interesting links for you guys to digest....
Seems that the IP 219 is behind a proxy...

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Link 4

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So apparently, they stuck a fair block of 218.* IPs behind the proxy now as well.

I'd say it's time to bypass the 'choet-chais' and track down the email addresses of Baharum Salleh and Abdul Wahid Omar, and send them long comprehensive emails with traceroutes, comparisons between 218/219/60 IPs and reminders of their corporate responsibility (as described on the front page of the TM website).

May also want to point out that the lower-liners are being most unhelpful while you are at it.


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If you guys can do it, do a tcp ping port 3724 instead..

Here's a sample done from my office network... I know where i'll be playing my WoW tonight tongue.gif

Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=218ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=204ms


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QUOTE(tarpaucase @ Apr 5 2005, 10:41 AM)
If you guys can do it, do a tcp ping port 3724 instead..

Here's a sample done from my office network... I know where i'll be playing my WoW tonight tongue.gif

Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=219ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=203ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=218ms
Reply from us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com:3724 time=204ms
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Ummm yes... please elaborate on how you would set this up...

You'll make quite a few WoW-deprived people happy tonight.


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You guys can find a similar tool here..

http://www.tools4ever.com/products/free/command/#portping
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Not asking how you ping a port, but rather how you set it up so that WoW connects to and utilises that port exclusively both at the logon and server phase.


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O_o

WoW automatically uses that port for logon and server..
That's the only port that is responsive to the ping and not the other ports. I didn't change anything...

I was just pinging that port to see what's the response time like from my office network. It's more accurate than doing a trace route that gets stuck somewhere in the middle smile.gif

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Strange, because I'm pretty sure mine has been going to 3728 all this while.

Time to poke about in the logon setup scripts, it seems..


EDIT - never mind... My fault entirely. Just got a friend to check. It is 3724.

Don't know where I got the idea that 3728 was used instead of the obvious 3724.

Thanks

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Just to add, I don't think that the new proxy should affect port 3724. More likely than not, the proxies are usually for HTTP (port 80). Other ports should be able to bypass the proxy. At least that's the right way to do it, but we all know that TMNet has their own way of doing things.

This thread can be pretty much summarized in one sentence: It's TMNet's cock-up, and they should be the one fixing things.
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QUOTE(tarpaucase @ Apr 5 2005, 10:41 AM)
If you guys can do it, do a tcp ping port 3724 instead..

Here's a sample done from my office network... I know where i'll be playing my WoW tonight tongue.gif
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Im confused, did you find a fix ? Where are you playing WoW tonight exactly - if port 3724 has been the default port all the while ?
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unsure.gif blink.gif im totally confused with the "solution", bah,
last nite call centre again mention about the prob, the only solution they give, reconnect after 10 min....bleh ...moral down
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Apparently, baharum@tm.net.my still works. So maybe it's time to send your grievances to the head-honcho of TMnet itself, if you think upper management is still unaware of the issues because the lower liners are hiding it from them.

I've done my part, including a part telling him that his staff have been behaving unprofessionally by not attempting to resolve the matter to the satisfaction of the subscribers. Also threw in something about Lim Keng Yaik's recent speech and about Telekom's corporate responsibility as described on the website.


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Xeo, eikan.. there's no solution as such.

tarpaucase has given up on playing WoW at home, so he's going to be playing at the office instead wink.gif

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well, i got news from a Singapore fren say, Starhub (like Telekom) got latency problem too. around 10s at IF. >.<
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QUOTE(sanylcs @ Apr 5 2005, 12:00 PM)
well, i got news from a Singapore fren say, Starhub (like Telekom) got latency problem too. around 10s at IF. >.<
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What I gathered so far from a friend in Singapore, who is also using Starhub, that he is experiencing lag spikes not constant latency like ours. His ping time is good but he gets lag spikes that last very long sometimes he even get disconnect from server.


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http://www.petitiononline.com/bbb4my/petition.html
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There's no solution to you guys having the 219.95 IP range at this moment.

I haven't given up playing at home because I can get 219.94 IP range and get about 600-700ms latency (playable in my sense smile.gif) - and i'm working on something also wink.gif

It's most likely the problem you're facing is attributed to TMNet 'cock-up' but it is also very possible that AT&T leased two types of services to Tmnet as their upstream. One could be a 'gold class' service recognising the 60.x ip range and 219.94.. while the other is a 'cheap skate' service. 219.95.x.x -- these different class of service is to give priority to people paying more money.

Seeing as both range of IPs go through the same gateway, this is a possible case.. (it couldn't be a router cpu load problem, that will result in high latency everywhere)...unless of course one of the IP range goes through some hidden routes maybe 2 round trip around the globe before coming back.. tongue.gif

just some wild theory...


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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 5 2005, 11:48 AM)
Apparently, baharum@tm.net.my still works. So maybe it's time to send your grievances to the head-honcho of TMnet itself, if you think upper management is still unaware of the issues because the lower liners are hiding it from them.

I've done my part, including a part telling him that his staff have been behaving unprofessionally by not attempting to resolve the matter to the satisfaction of the subscribers. Also threw in something about Lim Keng Yaik's recent speech and about Telekom's corporate responsibility as described on the website.
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Think its time for actions. I've just sent a strongly worded mail to him. If enough of us spam him, maybe (just maybe) something will finally get done.
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Think its time for actions. I've just sent a strongly worded mail to him. If enough of us spam him, maybe (just maybe) something will finally get done.
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That's good.. but I would encourage people to send emails that are calm, collected and logical, rather than resorting to emotional rhetoric, blanket accusations, etc.


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Are you sure that baharum email is actaully to the right baharum ? What if its a 13 year old with the same name ? LOL, spam the poor !%!%!^
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Here's the results for today's ping from Shah Alam


Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 25 ms 27 ms 29 ms 219.93.218.177
3 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.189
4 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms 210.187.143.1
5 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 210.187.143.5
6 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms klj-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.13]
7 120 ms 73 ms 66 ms 210.187.133.83
8 23 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.174.83
9 317 ms 371 ms 327 ms 219.93.153.158
10 2049 ms 2050 ms 2076 ms 12.118.44.5
11 2040 ms 2046 ms 2064 ms 12.123.8.50
12 2010 ms 2002 ms 1942 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
13 1914 ms 1930 ms 2022 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
14 2018 ms 2020 ms 2054 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
15 2058 ms 2040 ms 2040 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 2004 ms 1992 ms 1980 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 1893 ms 1848 ms 1866 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
18 * *
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Trying to use public proxy servers to play.
Do you think its possible? Its only like 100ms to the proxy in Japan.
Going through there should route us through different gateways I think which I hope is better than the one we're using.

I'm not sure if this works. Any comments?
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Are you sure that baharum email is actaully to the right baharum ? What if its a 13 year old with the same name ? LOL, spam the poor !%!%!^
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HERE.. Page 41 or you can search for the name.


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Call number #12 to TMNet - This time has got to be the best call. The person was knowledgable enough, and will get the technical team to contact me - because we've been doing alot of research and have been experiencing the problem for the past 4 weeks. I clearly explained that 219's proxy is giving alot of problems compared to the other IP range.

Hope they check and call quick. *sigh*
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QUOTE(Tatty @ Apr 5 2005, 01:45 PM)
Trying to use public proxy servers to play.
Do you think its possible? Its only like 100ms to the proxy in Japan.
Going through there should route us through different gateways I think which I hope is better than the one we're using.

I'm not sure if this works. Any comments?
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Provided the proxy server also serves port 3724. If not you're still out of luck.
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 5 2005, 02:02 PM)
Call number #12 to TMNet - This time has got to be the best call. The person was knowledgable enough, and will get the technical team to contact me - because we've been doing alot of research and have been experiencing the problem for the past 4 weeks. I clearly explained that 219's proxy is giving alot of problems compared to the other IP range.

Hope they check and call quick. *sigh*
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Cheers to you Xeoalpha!!! You got the stamina to give so many calls TMNet!! I really do hope we get some solid feedback this time.
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Anybody lags on WOW at IP 218 range today ? I have experienced major lag since this morning.
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Anybody lags on WOW at IP 218 range today ? I have experienced major lag since this morning.
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From what I read in the network forum here in LYN - osme 218 IP's are also under proxy. The proxy setup is similiar to 219 - thus; laggy sad.gif Last I read; it's unconfirmed though. Mind posting a tracert here ?
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I called TMNet again this morning and the tech staff told me that the 219.95.xxx cable line is badly damaged, so they are fixing the cable as of now. In order not to cause complete disruption of internet services...like having no internet at all....they decided to reroute the traffic through somewhat congested lines...therefore causing the bad latency that we have for the 219.95.xxx line. I have very limited knowledge on this kind of stuff, so tell me if its really possible for them to actually do it like that. Then when I asked about the AT&T restrictions on 219 and 218, he said there was never any restrictions set forth by AT&T at all, and they said that TMNet has direct links to major telecommunications broadband provider including MCI, Verizon, SBC and the likes....
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 5 2005, 03:05 PM)
I called TMNet again this morning and the tech staff told me that the 219.95.xxx cable line is badly damaged, so they are fixing the cable as of now. In order not to cause complete disruption of internet services...like having no internet at all....they decided to reroute the traffic through somewhat congested lines...therefore causing the bad latency that we have for the 219.95.xxx line. I have very limited knowledge on this kind of stuff, so tell me if its really possible for them to actually do it like that. Then when I asked about the AT&T restrictions on 219 and 218, he said there was never any restrictions set forth by AT&T at all, and they said that TMNet has direct links to major telecommunications broadband provider including MCI, Verizon, SBC and the likes....
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Its possible, but if you've been following this thread, you'll find that TMNet gave lots of different story on why we're having problem with IP 219.95.XXX.XXX. So I'm gonna take this with a grain of salt.....
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I'd believe it if he actually gave you a specific date on which the problem would be fixed... INSTEAD OF giving you the usual 'I don't know' answer.

I'd believe it if he gave you a plausible reason why it's taking so long to fix... INSTEAD OF giving you the usual 'Technical problem our personnel looking into it' answer

I'd believe it if he gave you his name... INSTEAD OF trying to avoid answering.

I'd believe it if he calls you at some point to update you on the status... INSTEAD OF you never hearing from him again.

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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 5 2005, 03:05 PM)
I called TMNet again this morning and the tech staff told me that the 219.95.xxx cable line is badly damaged, so they are fixing the cable as of now. In order not to cause complete disruption of internet services...like having no internet at all....they decided to reroute the traffic through somewhat congested lines...therefore causing the bad latency that we have for the 219.95.xxx line. I have very limited knowledge on this kind of stuff, so tell me if its really possible for them to actually do it like that. Then when I asked about the AT&T restrictions on 219 and 218, he said there was never any restrictions set forth by AT&T at all, and they said that TMNet has direct links to major telecommunications broadband provider including MCI, Verizon, SBC and the likes....
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Could you give me a name or a number ? Did this person you spoke to (that said the line was damaged) sound sure or uncertain ? I would certainly like to talk to this person.
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Call #13 - Im calling to check and asked "Is there any problems with the 219 IP range ?" - The guy named Damen, put me on hold for 2 mins, and came back to me "No sir, there are no problems with the 219 IP range".

So, for another time... I explain about proxies and the 219 range compared to the other IP ranges. He put me on hold after all that.

Im on hold now, will edit this in 5 mins.

Edit: This guy Damen, said "Im the FIRST CUSTOMER" to complain about the 219 range. The hell ?! Can you guys please call, and specifically request for "Damen" (Indian guy, knowledgable, quite cocky). Im definitely not the first.

1300 88 9515 , press 2 for English, press 1 for StramyX, then press 3 for tech support.

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Heh, which is why I always get a name and a direct number, so I can keep going after the same guy.

My current 'victim' is a guy named Shahril. I think it's getting through to him that I'm not going away. I always start my conversation with 'Hi, remember me?'

I'll go call him for the 5th time later today.

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How did you get a direct number ? Mind if I call too ?

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Well, I did promise not to divulge his handphone number. I think it's fair not to spread someone's personal number all over the internet.

That said, you should know that this guy is not your typical TMnet goon. He actually works in Telekom's infrastructure division responsible for the TTDI/Damansara area. Got passed on to him on one of my 'routine' calls to 1-300-88-9515.

I think everyone should attempt to get someone similiar in your area. There's always these few people responsible for an area to deal with technical issues.

In any case, just called him a while ago... Maybe today's a particular bad day for him. Turned off his handphone and all :/

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I called TMNet again this morning and the tech staff told me that the 219.95.xxx cable line is badly damaged, so they are fixing the cable as of now. In order not to cause complete disruption of internet services...like having no internet at all....they decided to reroute the traffic through somewhat congested lines...therefore causing the bad latency that we have for the 219.95.xxx line. I have very limited knowledge on this kind of stuff, so tell me if its really possible for them to actually do it like that. Then when I asked about the AT&T restrictions on 219 and 218, he said there was never any restrictions set forth by AT&T at all, and they said that TMNet has direct links to major telecommunications broadband provider including MCI, Verizon, SBC and the likes....
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I always get either shahril or damen whenever i call, if a girl answer, chance u get only report log number ..keep calling thumbup.gif

as u all can see my prev screenshot, my xpeedometer below 50k, so no matter 218,219 or 60 its still lagging. Something really realllllly wrong. Even my torrent not reach 10K. BUT a frend fr kelana jaya can dl using torrent with speed almost 1MBps, but still WoW is laggin around 600~700.

so i think i already hit a wall for today, gonna call again tonite tongue.gif, btw when u guys call em, do they log ur log report no?
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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 5 2005, 03:18 PM)
I'd believe it if he actually gave you a specific date on which the problem would be fixed... INSTEAD OF giving you the usual 'I don't know' answer.

I'd believe it if he gave you a plausible reason why it's taking so long to fix...  INSTEAD OF giving you the usual 'Technical problem our personnel looking into it' answer

I'd believe it if he gave you his name... INSTEAD OF trying to avoid answering.

I'd believe it if he calls you at some point to update you on the status... INSTEAD OF you never hearing from him again.
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1. These kind of problem that transcends our borders are hard to fix. They can't give you any date because, if they can't meet the deadline they given out it would only amount to disappointment. It's very hard to give a 'date' when it would be fixed specifically. The problem could be hardware related, vendor would need to know the date of delivery, what about factory.. do they have stock? if it's undersea cable, which ship would carry them to sea to fix it.. when does the ship dock?.. it's *very* hard to give exact dates as you can see wink.gif

2. It's hard to give you a reason because these are call center people, they themselves are usually not the technical person but they are there to lodge your complaints and reports. No IT company would hire superior technically knowledge-able people to man the call center. No professional IT guy would want to do that also wink.gif

3. There's no reason for him to give you his name, but he should have anyhow. It doesn't hurt him anyhow, maybe you scared him?

Why don't you guys try to get a 'trouble ticket number' from them? they usually have some form of troubleshooting follow up to do via a ticketing system... i hope.. tongue.gif

and torrent is not a good way to estimate speed, and broadband.. well, you're not guaranteed a speed you subscribed to anyways wink.gif

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Usually..
1. These kind of problem that transcends our borders are hard to fix. They can't give you any date because, if they can't meet the deadline they given out it would only amount to disappointment. It's very hard to give a 'date' when it would be fixed specifically. The problem could be hardware related, vendor would need to know the date of delivery, what about factory.. do they have stock? if it's undersea cable, which ship would carry them to sea to fix it.. when does the ship dock?.. it's *very* hard to give exact dates as you can see wink.gif

Ah see... this is where we don't agree... If they were a focused organisation, they should have had plenty of time to have analysed the problem, set a deadline to fix it and commit to it. Not having a deadline is just asking for procrastination to creep in.

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2. It's hard to give you a reason because these are call center people, they themselves are usually not the technical person but they are there to lodge your complaints and reports. No IT company would hire superior technically knowledge-able people to man the call center. No professional IT guy would want to do that also wink.gif

Following on my first answer above, I place a very high emphasis on the need for the backroom technical staff to be constantly in contact with the front-line staff to keep them abreast of developments. It's called professionalism and customer focus. Otherwise, why have a support staff manning 1-300-88-9515 anyway?

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3. There's no reason for him to give you his name, but he should have anyhow. It doesn't hurt him anyhow, maybe you scared him?

Again, it's customer focus to show that they are approachable and taking a personal interest in your problem. Not willing to do so even when asked tells me they have something to hide.


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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 5 2005, 03:30 PM)
Call #13 - Im calling to check and asked "Is there any problems with the 219 IP range ?" - The guy named Damen, put me on hold for 2 mins, and came back to me "No sir, there are no problems with the 219 IP range".

So, for another time... I explain about proxies and the 219 range compared to the other IP ranges. He put me on hold after all that.

Im on hold now, will edit this in 5 mins.

Edit: This guy Damen, said "Im the FIRST CUSTOMER" to complain about the 219 range. The hell ?! Can you guys please call, and specifically request for "Damen" (Indian guy, knowledgable, quite cocky). Im definitely not the first.

1300 88 9515 , press 2 for English, press 1 for StramyX, then press 3 for tech support.
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Bullshit, I called Damen yesterday about the 219 ip issue. Yep, damn cocky guy. I guess he didnt file my report then.
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get through kumar, report about problem connection for 219, and ask is there a problem at streamyx, answer: there is no problem with the ip, anything i can help? tq for calling tmnut

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I gave up on 1-300 sometime ago. Even if you have plenty of evidence, it will just go in one ear and out the other anyway since you don't even know if they are writing it down.

I still think it's more worthwhile to gather all your evidence - traceroutes, performance comparison and the like - and send an email to a senior supervisor, stating clearly that it is being CCed to the CEO... and maybe even state that a hardcopy snailmail will be sent to the CEO as well.


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Hi, I heard my friend said theres a lot of complaints in this forum about latency problems with Streamyx to WoW, so I registered just for this tongue.gif

I've called them so many times, and everytime they say they will reply the next day. Ofcourse they never did and I have to get back to them, with an answer that they already did something, like reset my port and stuff, but then its always the same thing. Its not only to WoW, im having a hard time browsing international webs and downloading from BT is like 2KB average w00t! And I've been facing this problem for almost 3 weeks now. Guess what? My ping in WoW is on 3k at best, 4k on average, and it can go all the way up to 6k and stay there.

You guys told to call the technicians instead of the operators. I did actually and he asked me to bypass my router and stuff. What the heck lol I'm not going to do that as I need my router to act as a firewall. But then I guess I'll call both sides for now.

Ok now for the IP thing. My neighbour is using a 219, and he doesnt have much problems. Ping range between 500 to 800, thats average to bearable. But me on the other hand, well I've said it just now, basically its unplayable. And for the changing IP thing... I tried, plucking out phone lines, switching off my router, modem, even my com, and reset the connection through my router. Guess what? I've tried for like 80 times at least, with a 100% 192.xxx result. Can I have some tips here as to how you guys really do it? Thanks in advance.

Btw, if they ask you to test the speed o'meter from streamyx site, dont trust it. The meter can show very good results sometimes while the problem is still there. Use this instead.

www.numion.com

This calculates ur connection through international sites instead of our local tmnut servers, this site's result matters more than the speed o'meter.
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192.xxx results? That sounds like your internal IP, not the one assigned by Steamyx.
As for resetting you router, don't waste your time anymore. If you cannot get it, you wont get it.
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My bad, its 219, typo ><
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I'm gonna give Screamyx a call again tomorrow to follow up on the report claimed to be 'submitted' yesterday. This time, I'm gonna ask them to forward me to a technical staff. Hopefully somebody can shed some light, or tell another contradicting story. Oh yeah, they didn't contact me as 'promised'. So much for customer service. If this is the states, I bet we can have a class action lawsuit or something like that for breach of contract (remember the EA/Origin ultima online lawsuit?).

Supposed to call today, but exam in the morn and after I came back, overslept till 7pm..hehe
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Ah see... this is where we don't agree... If they were a focused organisation, they should have had plenty of time to have analysed the problem, set a deadline to fix it and commit to it. Not having a deadline is just asking for procrastination to creep in.
Following on my first answer above, I place a very high emphasis on the need for the backroom technical staff to be constantly in contact with the front-line staff to keep them abreast of developments. It's called professionalism and customer focus. Otherwise, why have a support staff manning 1-300-88-9515 anyway?
Again, it's customer focus to show that they are approachable and taking a personal interest in your problem. Not willing to do so even when asked tells me they have something to hide.
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Well, they(tmnet/AT&T) could be a focused organisation but they too rely on other parties to help them do such thing.. smile.gif so it will still take time in the end - and nothing is ever as simple as setting a specific deadline and gives a guarantee to solve such a problem. There's always the chance that something else could be the problem.

And yes, you're right in the sense that the technical staff should constantly be in contact with the front-line staff but there's some things that the front line staff can't explain that well to the customer, no matter how well the technical staff try to explain it. Otherwise if the front line is so good he/she might as well go to the back end and be a technical staff too right? Customer support staff is there to entertain you while the back-end people do their job wink.gif Well they are more like there to take in your complains in case those people at the back don't notice any problem you see. Anyhow, these kind of problems should be made public. At least when you know whats the problem, people won't be jumping up and down trying to find out whats wrong. I wonder why our local telco aren't willing to open up some of their network information to the public like traffic congestion and all that, most good ISPs do that anyway to show how capable they are.

Anyway, good latency doesn't improve my gameplay.. as shown here wink.gif (that latency is obtained from my office network using Time as the ISP - and that's the best I can get, and the worse is 500ms)

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QUOTE(tarpaucase @ Apr 5 2005, 10:31 PM)
Anyway, good latency doesn't improve my gameplay.. as shown here wink.gif (that latency is obtained from my office network using Time as the ISP - and that's the best I can get, and the worse is 500ms)

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Thats probably because you don't have a good PC to support it plain and simple. I mean if your FPS sucks, its not going to do you any good cause it will still show as laggy cause your char will be seen like blinking from one point to another instead of actually running. is that what you mean?

You are right about the customer service part though about being able to pass the info to the consumers from what they know and what they could understand. But all we need is not several different answers. We ONLY need one straightforward answer and why, is that so hard to ask or is that so hard for TMNet to actually explain it? Come on. Networking is not dealing with complex differential equations or programming language. What is that so hard to explain? Remember back in college, instructors would teach us that the best way to write a project paper is to be able to reach to the masses and not just for the professor or fellow major students to understand. So, please, there really are no excuse for TMNet incompetence. Also deadlines exist for a reason. Its not just to entertain people on when it will be done but to set a date and time so that it could be done and to achieve the objectives faster. People without objectives tends to lag off and delay further their task at hand. So screw TMNet, I have emailed them my tracert results and they told me they will get back to me in 3 days. As of now, still no response whatsoever on their part.
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I don't think you guys will get any response from tmnet - with us just minority WoW gamers pestering them, i doubt they even care...

Did you guys get a trouble ticket number even??? but yeah. they should at least explain .. on a website that their international site is having issues.. or something somewhat.. unless it's something that could impact their services - what if traffic shaping is turned off for all customers.. and because of this all 219.95 ip are congested to the max...? tongue.gif would they announce it.. it would only worsen the situation.. but yeah, why the hell am I defending them for .. crap tongue.gif i still think their network information should be open to the public.. i don't know why they are so hesitant to explain what's wrong.. unless.. 219.95 *is* getting the lower grade of service from AT&T (mpls and all that class of service crap).. and they intent to upgrade but it's in process...???

Oh well best course of action here I think now is for you guys to complain collectively - get a trouble ticket and pour in all the information and repeatedly call them and ask them to refer to this particular problem or speak to their supervisor and all that...

magic word : trouble ticket tongue.gif

(i was screwing around when i meant my gameplay sucked even with the latency.. it was a joke.. sorta.. but..oh nvm)
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off topic but...tarpaucase..what ui are u using?? i like the clock and the latency bar shown above..
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I think I will give up and play EQ2...lol

their tracert result is amazin on my 2k WoW ping..

Tracing route to eqlogin1.everquest.com [64.37.148.4]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 * * * Request timed out.

2 24 ms 25 ms 23 ms 219.93.218.177

3 22 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.216.101

4 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.155.29

5 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]

6 23 ms 25 ms 23 ms 210.187.143.1

7 22 ms 23 ms 21 ms 219.93.175.123

8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 210.187.129.171

9 254 ms 256 ms 254 ms 219.93.168.234

10 330 ms 404 ms 271 ms exch1.laeqnx-1.sonyonline.net [206.223.123.90]

11 258 ms 326 ms 261 ms vl890.sdtermsw-1.sonyonline.net [64.37.128.66]

12 431 ms 258 ms 257 ms eqlogin1.everquest.com [64.37.148.4]



Trace complete.



Tracing route to eqlogin2.everquest.com [64.37.148.25]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 * * * Request timed out.

2 26 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.218.177

3 23 ms 21 ms 23 ms 219.93.216.109

4 24 ms 24 ms 21 ms 219.93.155.33

5 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]

6 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 210.187.143.1

7 23 ms 24 ms 23 ms vlan250-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.122]

8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

9 254 ms 254 ms 253 ms 219.93.168.234

10 255 ms 253 ms 254 ms exch1.laeqnx-1.sonyonline.net [206.223.123.90]

11 258 ms 258 ms 258 ms vl890.sdtermsw-1.sonyonline.net [64.37.128.66]

12 261 ms 258 ms 258 ms eqlogin2.everquest.com [64.37.148.25]



Trace complete.


So...Everquest 2 anyone? lol


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Regardless, what I really found offensive was the fact that TMnet have been telling people to go speak to AT&T directly.

Whoever said that should be b****slapped.

In any case, if you really want to rile things up, you could go but 1 lot of Telekom shares. That will grant you access to their next shareholder meeting and give you the right to get to the mike and ask the management 'very specific things' wink.gif

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Called again, 1 told me their servers are having maintainance and cant check my account, called another, told me to change my modem. Whats next?
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off topic but...tarpaucase..what ui are u using?? i like the clock and the latency bar shown above..
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Can someone confirm this please ? Just received it

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Dear Mr XXX,

Thank you for e-mailing TM Net. Firstly, we apologise for the late reply.

Referring to the above, please note that the problem we were facing with International Link has been restored. However, if you are still facing the sameproblem please call our helpdesk below and they will lodge a report for you immediately.

Should you have any further enquiries, please do not hesitate to contact us either via e-mail at streamyx@tm.net.my or call us at 1-300-88-9515 between the hours of 8.00am to 12.00 midnight, seven days a week to speak to any of our representatives.

Thank you for being our valued customer.

Best Regards,
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Website: http://www.tm.net.my
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Holy Moly!! You serious?? Please someone out there, do a trace route now and post it here to verify this...
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Its still lagging. But its not 2k anymore Im having 3k for a few days now. What about the rest?
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Just to clarify things. There are 2 types of lag in relation to those who are playing WoW. One is the network lag, which is about 2k+ nowdays. The other is the game lag. Game lag is very subjective as it depends on your PC hardware's performance. The in-game ping indication is actually a total of the network lag and game lag.

Don't use AH as a measurement of game pings as your Harddisk is throttling, trying to catch-up with the data from the server, hence the inflated pings you see when you're at AH. I usually run to an area almost devoid of any toons on-screen to check my in-game pings.

Since last week, the in-game lag is around 500-900ms. Hence the total ping shown in-game is around 3k. Which equates to 3 sec delay in anything you do or anything that is doing you. smile.gif
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So can someone confirm the email that was sent to me ? Has it been fixed ?
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Well actually I've went to desolated places like Shimmering Flats, its no different than the AH, tho the AH is wee bit worse. And in order to play I have to bring my PC over to my neighbours house. Using the same com, I dont lag there, pings are at an average of 550ms. To add to that, this problem only arrose around 3 weeks ago, where theres no problem before I was level 32, no problems during the open beta too. One thing wierd tho is that my neighbour is using the same 219.95.xx IP as me.

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Reis, I know about the lag - 17 pages of it. I'd like to know if you can confirm the email I got above or not ? 195.xxx ? Thats a LAN IP right ? Check WAN.

3 stress test , one open beta and 2 months of WoW - I was fine, no lag. Then poof, we have this issue.
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Man I'm always posting it wrong. What I meant all the while was 219 not 195, gonna edit it later.

And nope, I doubt they fixed anything. You can check your speed with international websites here.

www.numion.com
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I use testmy.net to test my speeds. I can't check now because Im at the office and on Maxis cable, Reis. You doubt they fixed it ? Can we get soemthing concrete please ? biggrin.gif

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For those who had been experiencing high pings, pls do a tracert to confirm the email that Xeoalpha got from TMNET!

I'll keep my fingers crossed for this. Have been suffering for so long. Please let this be true!
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Erm I doubt because I used that international speed meassure site and its still the same, at 60 kbps. Other than that I dont know about anything that can be more concrete unsure.gif
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Erm I doubt because I used that international speed meassure site and its still the same, at 60 kbps. Other than that I dont know about anything that can be more concrete  unsure.gif
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Ahh I see thanks. Here's the result.



Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.112]

over a maximum of 30 hops:



1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1

2 18 ms 15 ms 15 ms 219.93.218.177

3 14 ms 12 ms 13 ms 219.93.216.109

4 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms 219.93.155.33

5 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 210.187.133.83

6 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms 219.93.174.83

7 307 ms 308 ms 307 ms 219.93.153.158

8 1922 ms 1933 ms 1938 ms 12.118.44.5

9 1526 ms 1531 ms 1591 ms 12.123.8.50

10 389 ms 385 ms 389 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]

11 1580 ms 1595 ms 1583 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]

12 1485 ms 1478 ms 1434 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]

13 1860 ms 1896 ms 1880 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]

14 1540 ms 1599 ms 1584 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]

15 1574 ms 1541 ms 1541 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.250]

16 * * * Request timed out.

17 * * * Request timed out.

18 * * * Request timed out.

19 * * * Request timed out.

20 * * * Request timed out.

21 * * * Request timed out.

22 * * * Request timed out.

23 * * * Request timed out.

24 * * * Request timed out.

25 * * * Request timed out.

26 * * * Request timed out.

27 * * * Request timed out.

28 * * * Request timed out.

29 * * * Request timed out.

30 * * * Request timed out.



Trace complete.
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*SIGH* TMnet and their bullshit.
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One thing I noticed is that the pings during the mornings, before start of work, is around 800-900ms and it gets progressively worse towards the evening.
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Yea Lost, its a lil better in the morning, but as you said it gets progressively worse towards the evening vmad.gif But you know when it starts to get better? Maybe I can start playing at that hour huh.gif

Today I called again for the fifth time, got an answer that my case was closed shocking.gif Wow is this the way they do things? So I was forced to make a second report. This time the technician called tho, and said will get back to me soon. I wonder what will happen this time whistling.gif
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I guess when everyone in Malaysia goes to sleep, I suppose. 3am should be a safe bet. smile.gif

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It has been fixed? Noooooo.... still at 2296ms in game. BUT, it's definately better than previously which was around 3600ms.
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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 6 2005, 04:03 PM)
It has been fixed? Noooooo.... still at 2296ms in game. BUT, it's definately better than previously which was around 3600ms.
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Wait lah, its not the night time yet. It might hit 3.6k at nite.
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Conflicting reports from two friends who are back home now...

Bukit Damansara - 700-850 latencies.. Still not good, but playable
TTDI - still in the mid 2000s

Not sure about the likelihood that they may indeed be fixing it one area at a time.



This post has been edited by wildside: Apr 6 2005, 04:33 PM
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my 1.5mb sdsl having 1.5-2k ping on hinet.net but 200-350 on yahoo.com and 1.5k-2k ping when play WoW

my 2mb adsl having 300-450 on hinet.net, but countless timeout on yahoo.com (only after 7pm) and 450-550k when play WoW.

Called TMNET like 5 times, they favourite question to me :
Do you configure your TCP/IP ?

err wtf, if i didnt configure, how to I ping.


After 3 days I made a follow up call using my report number, same answers:
Oh, your report sudah closed. Problem resolved.

Huh?

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Pinging from a 218.111.xxx @ 5:30PM
(In game its about 480 - 700)

tracert us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.117
4 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 219.93.155.37
5 20 ms 21 ms 20 ms 210.187.132.83
6 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.174.67
7 315 ms 316 ms 315 ms 219.93.153.158
8 321 ms 324 ms 323 ms 12.118.44.5
9 326 ms 325 ms 327 ms 12.123.8.50
10 342 ms 343 ms 343 ms tbr1-cl4.sl9mo.ip.att.net [12.122.10.30]
11 313 ms 315 ms 313 ms tbr1-cl2.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.10.42]
12 311 ms 312 ms 310 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
13 * 311 ms 310 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
14 321 ms 322 ms 320 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
15 321 ms 320 ms 320 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
242]
16 * * * Request timed out.
17 * ^C


Pinging mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.242] with 32 bytes of da
ta:

Reply from 12.129.192.242: bytes=32 time=316ms TTL=50
Reply from 12.129.192.242: bytes=32 time=316ms TTL=50
Reply from 12.129.192.242: bytes=32 time=316ms TTL=50
Reply from 12.129.192.242: bytes=32 time=317ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 12.129.192.242:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 316ms, Maximum = 317ms, Average = 316ms
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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Apr 6 2005, 04:05 PM)
Wait lah, its not the night time yet. It might hit 3.6k at nite.
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Yup..you're right. It's 3600 again tonite. This sucks. Anybody here with improving ping rates?
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Wow ur getting 3.6k? So nice, Im getting 4.2k sad.gif
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218.xxx ping reporting 320 ping ingame in Mulgore. I'm playing in Stormscale. Its a low/medium pop server.

seems like those at 218.xxx has no problems at all..

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i just bought some new ps2 and xbox games, while streamyx is still lagging. giving up hope on my wow......sigh.
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How's everybodys ping? I'm still stuck at 3k. So much for streamyx fixing their international line.
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Didnt get any better last night.

Streamyx was down for about an hour, was hoping that they are doing their job finally getting it all fixed. Logged into WoW. Bam 2k ping gradually turning into 3k+. Gf over in TTDI using 1mb line got 218. no problem, latency abit high around 500-800ms but playable.

This is kinda getting old. I'll stop posting how lag it is.
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Bad news....they decided to change the routing in my area somewhat and now I am lagging up to 6k constant! Totally New HIGHS!


Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 37 ms 25 ms 27 ms 219.93.218.177
3 25 ms 22 ms 23 ms 219.93.216.101
4 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.155.29
5 25 ms 23 ms 24 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 29 ms 24 ms 24 ms 210.187.142.1
7 26 ms 23 ms 25 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
8 25 ms 23 ms 24 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]
9 2359 ms 2338 ms 2364 ms POS5-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.214.117]
10 2263 ms 2286 ms 2256 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 2238 ms 2247 ms 2208 ms POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12 2206 ms 2215 ms 2231 ms 204.255.174.174
13 2314 ms 2313 ms 2326 ms tbr2-p013802.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.229]
14 2218 ms 2200 ms 2221 ms 12.122.11.94
15 2222 ms 2203 ms 2213 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16 2300 ms 2305 ms 2299 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
17 2294 ms 2286 ms 2279 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.242]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
24 * * * Request timed out.
25 * * * Request timed out.
26 * * * Request timed out.
27 * * * Request timed out.
28 * * * Request timed out.
29 * * * Request timed out.
30 * * * Request timed out.


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I'll be making my way to clickers Kelana Jaya this Saturday. Anyone would like to join ?

No, I'm not rioting biggrin.gif

Edit: I have a free trial for North American Lineage 2 to give away. It requires a credit card for confirmation - ends May 1. 200ms ping.

This post has been edited by Xeoalpha: Apr 7 2005, 11:28 AM
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now using 218 ip but end up 1k ping doh.gif
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 11:26 AM)
I'll be making my way to clickers Kelana Jaya this Saturday. Anyone would like to join ?

No, I'm not rioting biggrin.gif
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go burn thier office vmad.gif
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QUOTE(ShinAsuka @ Apr 7 2005, 11:27 AM)
go burn thier office  vmad.gif
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LOL -Worst for us then, no more internet!
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 11:29 AM)
LOL -Worst for us then, no more internet!
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 11:26 AM)
I'll be making my way to clickers Kelana Jaya this Saturday. Anyone would like to join ?

No, I'm not rioting biggrin.gif

Edit: I have a free trial for North American Lineage 2 to give away. It requires a credit card for confirmation - ends May 1. 200ms ping.
*
Frankly, I'd take half the day off tomorrow and go to Cyberjaya and ask for Baharum Salleh.

Actually, take the whole day off... you'd probably need it to describe all the problems wink.gif


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Yes, I'm sure that's very constructive and all... heh

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ShinAsuka - Stop flooding, please.

Wildside - First, you have to goto the Managers. Taking up to the head honcho is not always a good idea. Would you like to join me at clickers ?
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QUOTE(lilzany @ Apr 7 2005, 11:25 AM)
Bad news....they decided to change the routing in my area somewhat and now I am lagging up to 6k constant! Totally New HIGHS!
Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]

over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    *        *        *    Request timed out.
  2    37 ms    25 ms    27 ms  219.93.218.177
  3    25 ms    22 ms    23 ms  219.93.216.101
  4    23 ms    23 ms    23 ms  219.93.155.29
  5    25 ms    23 ms    24 ms  brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
  6    29 ms    24 ms    24 ms  210.187.142.1
  7    26 ms    23 ms    25 ms  vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
  8    25 ms    23 ms    24 ms  brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]
  9  2359 ms  2338 ms  2364 ms  POS5-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.214.117]
10  2263 ms  2286 ms  2256 ms  0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11  2238 ms  2247 ms  2208 ms  POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12  2206 ms  2215 ms  2231 ms  204.255.174.174
13  2314 ms  2313 ms  2326 ms  tbr2-p013802.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.229]
14  2218 ms  2200 ms  2221 ms  12.122.11.94
15  2222 ms  2203 ms  2213 ms  gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16  2300 ms  2305 ms  2299 ms  mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255.254]
17  2294 ms  2286 ms  2279 ms  mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.242]
18    *        *        *    Request timed out.
19    *        *        *    Request timed out.
20    *        *        *    Request timed out.
21    *        *        *    Request timed out.
22    *        *        *    Request timed out.
23    *        *        *    Request timed out.
24    *        *        *    Request timed out.
25    *        *        *    Request timed out.
26    *        *        *    Request timed out.
27    *        *        *    Request timed out.
28    *        *        *    Request timed out.
29    *        *        *    Request timed out.
30    *        *        *    Request timed out.
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6K? Lucky guy! I'm lagging constantly at 9k!!!! Can't check auction mail, can't chat at all! And got booted out of the game in about 1-2 minutes everytime. WTH!?!?

Can't go to clickers or call Screamyx now, gotta get ready for uni finals! If I fail my paper, blame Screamyx, heheh whistling.gif
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Nah, I'm not expecting the CEO to roll up his sleeves and resolve the issue. I just want to see someone in a sufficiently authoritative position who will get someone with enough IT-savvy that can understand what I'm saying.

As for a visit to Clickers, I went to the Damansara Utama one two days' ago. Nobody with enough IT know-how there to understand what I'm saying. Mentioning 'traceroutes', 'latencies', etc. drew blank looks from them... as I expected.

Heck, I work close to Menara Maybank, so I've been going down to Telekom Bukit Mahkamah every chance I get, but they seem adamant that the problem is TMnet's, not theirs.


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Come with me to Clickers Wildside. It is after all the HQ.
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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 7 2005, 11:45 AM)
Nah, I'm not expecting the CEO to roll up his sleeves and resolve the issue. I just want to see someone in a sufficiently authoritative position who will get someone with enough IT-savvy that can understand what I'm saying.

As for a visit to Clickers, I went to the Damansara Utama one two days' ago. Nobody with enough IT know-how there to understand what I'm saying. Mentioning 'traceroutes', 'latencies', etc. drew blank looks from them... as I expected.

Heck, I work close to Menara Maybank, so I've been going down to Telekom Bukit Mahkamah every chance I get, but they seem adamant that the problem is TMnet's, not theirs.
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If they know, I think they will. Problem is, this thing never goes up. For call centre, our call is just a call from somebody that have slow connection. That's all they know. Solution? Reset your modem / pc /etc
or :
'we have problem with <insert the value you told him either 219 218 whatever>,
please be patient / try reconnect later etc' - hang up - close call.....

As long as this thing is not escalated to their technical team (I mean the 'technical' team, not the 'so called technical' call centre people), no one will notice.

If I have the means, I will just make 10-20 of same reports, record their response (which WILL be all different) then publish to paper. At least we can prove their call center super suck.

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Heck! why not.. it can't hurt! Just 10 minutes down the LDP for me anyway.

It will have to be after 11am on Saturday, though. I have a swimming class to conduct from 9 to 10:30.


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Streamyx just called *surprise surprise* and asked me to troubleshoot with the technician. I told them I'll call back and do it tonite coz I'm leaving now. Don't think it'll help, but at least somebody DID take action based on my report I sent in 3-4 days ago.
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I just called tmnut's routing head, buahaha ..

as for baharum@tm.net.my, thats not baharum salleh's .. heh

Tips

$ whois tmnet.com.my

Welcome to MYNIC Whois Server.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
For alternative search,
whois -h whois.mynic.net.my xxxxx#option

Type the command as below for display help:
whois -h whois.mynic.net.my #h


Please note that the query limit is 20 per hour from the same IP.
If you have recently modified your domain name data, it may take up to
10 minutes for the modifications to be updated on the WHOIS database
------------------------------------------------------------------------

SEARCH BY DOMAIN NAME

a [Domain Name] tmnet.com.my
b [MYNIC Registration No.] D10549
c [Record Created] 19-FEB-1997
d [Record Expired] 19-FEB-2008
e [Record Last Modified] 04-MAR-2004

f [Invoicing Party :MYNIC]
MYNIC Billing Unit
MYNIC, MIMOS Berhad
Technology Park Malaysia
57000 Kuala Lumpur
Wilayah Persekutuan
billing@mynic.net.my
(Tel) 603-89917272
(Fax) 603-89917277

g [Registrant MYNIC Handle : RGA001030]
TELEKOM MALAYSIA BERHAD
(128740-P)
Telekom Multimedia
3rd Floor Kelana Parkview Tower, No 1, Jalan SS 6/2
47301 Petaling Jaya
SELANGOR
(Tel) 03-7074694
(Fax) 03-7038665

This post has been edited by Utada: Apr 7 2005, 12:09 PM
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Wildside - Thanks smile.gif PM me your phone number. It will have to be after 11am, because early in the morning I have a board meeting starting at 9.

--------------------------------------------------------------
To: editor@thestar.com.my
Subject: [Technology] Community facing problems

Dear Editor,

Hello, my name is Nicholas and I would like to highlight to The Star regarding a major issue we have been facing. Over at http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=135140 ; for more that 4 1/2 weeks have we been having problems with StreamyX. After numerous calls, and eMails to both AT&T and StreamyX, the issue is yet to be resolved.

We are a community of World of Warcraft players. StreamyX's 219.xxx.xxx.xxx IP range is causing massive latency, around 2-6k pings. This causes US base website to load slow, sites such as CNN.com, MSNBC.com. Search engines are fine.

Would you please visit: http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=135140 and help us with our plight ?

Thank you.

Regards,
N|cholasC.
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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 7 2005, 12:00 PM)
Streamyx just called *surprise surprise* and asked me to troubleshoot with the technician. I told them I'll call back and do it tonite coz I'm leaving now. Don't think it'll help, but at least somebody DID take action based on my report I sent in 3-4 days ago.
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Remember to ask him to bring his OWN laptop and modem when he goes over to your place. That way, he won't have an excuse that your PC or modem is malfunctioning.

And if he tells you that it's congestion on the international link, show him that a simple dial-up connection works better wink.gif

Good luck!



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On a 218.x.x.x IP now and getting 1000+ ping to the login server. doh.gif
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218 facing a serious problem now. most of the time i cant connect to WoW server using 218 !

60 range can connect but getting serious ping 1K++ too.. this never happened b4.. but now shit!

wat's streamyx doing now huh ? tmnut !!
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Yeah. I just killed Kazzak and was partying when suddenly I got 6k ping....now cannot log in or log in and lag like !@#$ depending on what IP I get.

219.xx.xx.xx = Log in, lag...

218.xx.xx.xx = cannot log in

Stull trying to get the 60.xx.xx.xx IP
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Pinging 12.118.44.5 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=958ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=968ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=983ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=952ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=968ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=968ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=984ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=952ms TTL=238
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=968ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=968ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=984ms TTL=238
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=953ms TTL=238
Request timed out.

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QUOTE(dishwasher @ Apr 7 2005, 01:01 PM)
Yeah. I just killed Kazzak and was partying when suddenly I got 6k ping....now cannot log in or log in and lag like !@#$ depending on what IP I get.

219.xx.xx.xx = Log in, lag...

218.xx.xx.xx = cannot log in

Stull trying to get the 60.xx.xx.xx IP
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same !

219 = Log in, Lag from 20k ping(stating) - 8k ping(final) ! can cast spell.. but delay alot.
218 = cant log in
60 = Log in, Lag show 1k ping(stating) - 6k ping(final) ! can cast spell... but delay alot.

for 218. totally cant log in

for 219 n 60 both abt same situation. CANT PLAY !!

are they trying somethings or wat ? coz tmnut mess out everythings now... :/

user posted image
screenshot for 219 ip...
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APRIL 07 Thursday

TMNET TEMPORARY SERVICE INTERRUPTION


This is to announce that TM Net Sdn Bhd's Internet service is currently experiencing a slight drop in performance caused by several outages due to service degradation at some of its international links to Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan, Thailand and United States. Our multiple link providers which subscribe to the international carriers are still trying to restore their system for TM Net service.

TM Net is currently running slightly short on international capacity due to the problem. The congestion will be alleviated as soon as the international carriers fully restore their services for our connectivity. Meanwhile, we have taken immediate action to divert some traffic through our tmnet Eastgate service as well as to other back-up links to reduce the Internet international traffic congestion. The international providers are carrying out rectification works in stages and we will be making an announcement when the service has resumed to normal.

TM Net Sdn Bhd apologizes for any inconvenience caused but at the same time we would like to assure you that what we are doing is necessary in order to restore the service as soon as possible.

Customers can call our TM Net Customer Interaction Center at 1-300-88-9515 or 1-300-88-1515 from 8:00 a.m. till midnight or email at custcare@tm.net.my for further enquiries about the service.

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Has the net line gotten worst ? or its the same (ping) ? I seriously hope they are talking about the problem we have been experiencing for 4 weeks, not a NEW PROBLEM that is occuring just today.

Guess, this means we don't have to goto Clickers, Wildside.
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 01:36 PM)
APRIL 07 Thursday

TMNET TEMPORARY SERVICE INTERRUPTION


This is to announce that TM Net Sdn Bhd's Internet service is currently experiencing a slight drop in performance caused by several outages due to service degradation at some of its international links to Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan, Thailand and United States.  Our multiple link providers which subscribe to the international carriers are still trying to restore their system for TM Net service.

TM Net is currently running slightly short on international capacity due to the problem.  The congestion will be alleviated as soon as the international carriers fully restore their services for our connectivity.  Meanwhile, we have taken immediate action to divert some traffic through our tmnet Eastgate service as well as to other back-up links to reduce the Internet international traffic congestion.  The international providers are carrying out rectification works in stages and we will be making an announcement when the service has resumed to normal.

TM Net Sdn Bhd apologizes for any inconvenience caused but at the same time we would like to assure you that what we are doing is necessary in order to restore the service as soon as possible.

Customers can call our TM Net Customer Interaction Center at 1-300-88-9515 or 1-300-88-1515 from 8:00 a.m. till midnight or email at custcare@tm.net.my for further enquiries about the service.

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Has the net line gotten worst ? or its the same (ping) ? I seriously hope they are talking about the problem we have been experiencing for 4 weeks, not a NEW PROBLEM that is occuring just today.

Guess, this means we don't have to goto Clickers, Wildside.
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well.. i think this is the NEW PROBLEM they mention...
coz 218 n 60 is playable last nite/early morning..

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Its a new problem sad.gif I'm usually able to get sub 500 ping on 60.xx.xx.xx or 218 or 219.93 IP, but today its totally busted. I was playing fine with 500 ping just an hour or so ago (we killed kazzak! He's sooooo easy we're gonna farm him for loot every 7 days barring interference) then suddenly my ping went up to 800...ok, still playable.

Went with guildies to dance and was planning a DM run when suddenly I lagged bad....then saw my ping 2000. Then lagged again....5000. When it hit 8000 I quit and restarted modem.....got 218 (I was playing on 219.93) and couldn't log on or log into the WoW official site. Restarted to get 219.93, wait 10sec to login to WoW servers, didn't even bother to load the game sad.gif

What can I say? maybe after 1 BIG problem they'll fix all the other problems thats been plagueing us. Chances are tho that nothing gets fixed adn we all have to ween our addiction sad.gif

Bah, gonna go sulk in a corner now.
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It's a new problem to everybody else EXCEPT us.

It seems everybody, including the people on 218.*, 60* and even the 1515 dial-ups on 219.92.* has hopped on our bandwagon.

Interesting how the level of solidarity amongst Malaysian broadband users goes up when it's no longer just someone else's problem. wink.gif

Trip to Clickers will still be necessary if regular service resumes for everybody else except those of us stuck on 219.95.*

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The thing is, it may be down because they are fixing OUR 4 week old problem. However, like diswasher said, hopefully when they do fix the NEW problem, the OLD one will revert back to normal.

Oh Im confused, please make sense out of this someone biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 7 2005, 01:47 PM)
It's a new problem to everybody else EXCEPT us.

It seems everybody, including the people on 218.*, 60* and even the 1515 dial-ups on 219.92.* has hopped on our bandwagon.

Interesting how the level of solidarity amongst Malaysian broadband users goes up when it's no longer just someone else's problem. wink.gif

Trip to Clickers will still be necessary if regular service resumes for everybody else except those of us stuck on 219.95.*
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oh well, i hope solution to this new problem will somehow resolve the old problem as well............ hopefully.................. dream on............................................
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 01:54 PM)
The thing is, it may be down because they are fixing OUR 4 week old problem. However, like diswasher said, hopefully when they do fix the NEW problem, the OLD one will revert back to normal.

Oh Im confused, please make sense out of this someone biggrin.gif
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ya.. i probably think of this way too...
they might b fixing something... but they mess up more again :/
hope they really can fix it ASAP ... coz tomolo is JOHOR public holiday ~

hope they FIX ALL old n new problem as well !!

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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 01:54 PM)
The thing is, it may be down because they are fixing OUR 4 week old problem. However, like diswasher said, hopefully when they do fix the NEW problem, the OLD one will revert back to normal.

Oh Im confused, please make sense out of this someone biggrin.gif
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Well, here's what I posted in the thread at the Streamyx forum below...

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Optimistically
Telekom and TMnet will take the opportunity to fix their routing tables and the gateway (MYgate?) pathing. Everything becomes well again, and the weekend gaming orgy can proceed.

Pessimistically
This will the last straw that broke the camel's back. Internet provision in Malaysia sinks to a new low.
And yes, I hope it goes back to normal for us as well after this... and in time for the weekend.

It's no fun hanging around in IF looking at auctions and washing mooncloth every four days like I've been doing lately.

There's Scholomance to finish and Rakh'likh to kill!!



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Well, we technically cannot complain our old problem now since they officially admitted there IS a problem. Whether the problem is that same problem, we'll just have to wait until they announce that all their problems is resolve and our problem still not. As of now we still got problem.
Problems, problems, problems, what to do....... wait lor, we are good at that mah....
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I believe it's a new problem - and it just happens to make the old problem even worse, that's all.

I'm betting it's a submarine cable fault, in which will take days to resolve, if we're lucky... re-routing would not be simple as that.

Don't hold your breath guys..
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Jeff Ooi has posted the Streamyx distruption on his wegblog at
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Can someone who is registered to his screenshot comments page, please drop a message and link our thread here and inform them our problems that started 3 weeks ago? I would do it, but unfortunately the registration process requires a valid e-mail and I'm at work and I'm not willing to use my work e-mail for personal stuff.

I'll do it later tonite when I'm back home if nobody does it.

I don't know if posting there will help, but I'm hoping it will attract the mainstream readers and not just geeks like us. smile.gif
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Don't hold your breath guys..
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I'm not.. which is why I've made alternate plans for the weekend..

So umm, anybody want to donate something for a return air ticket for me and my PC to the States for the weekend? I'm not unreasonable and expecting First Class or anything. Economy will be fine biggrin.gif

But seriously, I suppose this will be a good weekend to work on and finish up my borang cukai taksiran sendiri and then do some shopping at IKEA.




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Posted on Jeff Ooi's Website as an article comment (Awaiting his approval):

This problem stems from the IP range 219.xxx.xxx.xxx of StreamyX. Our community has been having this problem for 4 1/2 weeks now. It's not new, I personally have called StreamyX 13 times - longest call was the 11th call lasting 1 1/2 hours.

Then they told me it's beyond their boundaries and I have to contact AT&T. Which is rediculous because StreamyX is the provider, I dont complain to their supplier, I complain to the person that sold me the good.

5 emails sent to AT&T, 8 eMails to StreamyX, 1 to The Star. Best thing is, I got an eMail this morning from their customer care saying "Our international links has been restored" - then they post this news up that there's a problem.

Our community spoke to the same customer care exec, and the best thing is - this guy claims no one has complained before *laugh*. When we have 3 forums regarding this issue for over 4 weeks, it's not a simple matter.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=135140
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ok.... juz came back from school connceted and got a 218.xx.xx.xx ip thought it was good coz 218 ip doesnt lag in WOW and when i logged in ... It takes 2 mins for my msg to reach my guildies and when i checked my ping it was like 3 k .... so i tried all the ips .. 219.95.xx.xx 10 k ping =_= 219.94.xx.xx 5 k ping ... and i wonder how u guygz get 60.xx.xx.xx ip .. never got it b4.. This sucks... i hope they fix it b4 the weekends ...
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QUOTE(Xeoalpha @ Apr 7 2005, 01:36 PM)
APRIL 07 Thursday

TMNET TEMPORARY SERVICE INTERRUPTION


This is to announce that TM Net Sdn Bhd's Internet service is currently experiencing a slight drop in performance caused by several outages due to service degradation at some of its international links to Singapore, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan, Thailand and United States.  Our multiple link providers which subscribe to the international carriers are still trying to restore their system for TM Net service.

TM Net is currently running slightly short on international capacity due to the problem.  The congestion will be alleviated as soon as the international carriers fully restore their services for our connectivity.  Meanwhile, we have taken immediate action to divert some traffic through our tmnet Eastgate service as well as to other back-up links to reduce the Internet international traffic congestion.  The international providers are carrying out rectification works in stages and we will be making an announcement when the service has resumed to normal.

TM Net Sdn Bhd apologizes for any inconvenience caused but at the same time we would like to assure you that what we are doing is necessary in order to restore the service as soon as possible.

Customers can call our TM Net Customer Interaction Center at 1-300-88-9515 or 1-300-88-1515 from 8:00 a.m. till midnight or email at custcare@tm.net.my for further enquiries about the service.

---------------------------------------------------------
Has the net line gotten worst ? or its the same (ping) ? I seriously hope they are talking about the problem we have been experiencing for 4 weeks, not a NEW PROBLEM that is occuring just today.

Guess, this means we don't have to goto Clickers, Wildside.
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I hope they can fix it by this Sunday. I sorely missed my 16 hours WoW marathon every Sundays....yes...that whole day I play only to take a short break for food, a short nap and shower...lol thats my Sunday life...so pathetic...

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i got new IP, 219.93.xxx.xxx

edit: wth, this new IP is fixed! RM66 pakage should hav a random IP!

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Wah....today streamyx so damn lag until hardly can sufting website as well. DAMN U STREAMYX!!!! sad.gif
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Wah....today streamyx so damn lag until hardly can sufting website as well.  DAMN U STREAMYX!!!! sad.gif
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Hmm 20k ping in IF...I give up...

I guess this is the best time to play some offline RPG that I should have played ages before. With that Morrowind: Bloodmoon comes to mind.
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Hmm, i think this is not Streamyx only issue.... Jaring also facing same problem...

taken from their site:

Slow Access/Browsing to International sites.

[English Version]

1. This announcement is addressed to all JARING Members.

2. We would like to inform you of a slow browsing speeds when attempting to access the international sites which started at 6:20 am on April 7, 2005.

3. Users may experience slow access/browsing performance, however sending/receiving e-mail to/from overseas will not be affected.

4. We are still working towards rectifying the problem. We will keep you posted as we get these matters resolved.

5. We apologize for any inconvenience caused.

6. Thank you.


JARING Network Operation Center
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219.93 ip is the server ip r u sure u got that ip ...
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I'm almost sure of one thing though.. they aren't using all their backup.

Myloca.. part of telekom, has an entirely different gateway altogether I believe.. if you go to http://mips.myloca.com/trace/ and do a trace to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com.. it uses UUNet(alterNET) as its main link to the US(WoW US servers specifically - they might have other links) and it gets about 200ms to at&t before getting filtered off wink.gif

They could, I believe, do quite a bit of work to reroute some traffic through that gateway.. but somehow they aren't doing it(too much red tape or bureaucracy??) .. probably because myloca customers pay a heck lot more than us peanuts stimyx customers wink.gif

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I understand MYLoca in addition to being the gateway used by premium subscribers, is also used for critical concerns like embassies, the military, arge corporations, etc.

As such, I think it's totally out of the question that they would consider allowing all the pr0n and warez downloaders to flood their system tongue.gif

"Ekuse me sir, can I use your system to download Naruto ah?"
"No!"
"Aiya! Why so bad wan?'"


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QUOTE(wildside @ Apr 7 2005, 05:24 PM)

"Ekuse me sir, can I use your system to download Naruto ah?"
"No!"
"Aiya! Why so bad wan?'"


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Some results when logging from TTDI.

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 23 ms 25 ms 26 ms 219.93.218.177
2 23 ms 22 ms 22 ms 219.93.216.21
3 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms 202.188.126.132
4 24 ms 22 ms 24 ms cbj-hnet01-ge1.tm.net.my [202.188.126.140]
5 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms 203.106.230.133
6 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 210.187.142.1
7 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
8 * 27 ms 25 ms 210.187.129.171
9 * 890 ms 892 ms POS5-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.141]
10 * * 905 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.122]
11 888 ms * 887 ms POS6-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.225]
12 888 ms * 898 ms 204.255.174.174
13 901 ms 897 ms 897 ms tbr2-p013802.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.229]
14 889 ms 886 ms * gbr5-p20.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.90]
15 895 ms 895 ms 898 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 899 ms * 905 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 * 881 ms 888 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
46]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
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C:\Documents and Settings\lenchong>tracert 12.129.232.111

Tracing route to 12.129.232.111 over a maximum of 30 hops

1 189 ms 148 ms 138 ms 203.106.200.1
2 160 ms 138 ms 139 ms 210.187.131.65
3 279 ms 139 ms 138 ms 203.106.255.1
4 178 ms 139 ms 139 ms 203.106.253.149
5 199 ms 137 ms 148 ms 203.106.4.45
6 149 ms 148 ms 148 ms brf-odsy02-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.2]
7 189 ms 148 ms 148 ms 210.187.142.1
8 200 ms 148 ms 148 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
9 199 ms 149 ms 140 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

10 350 ms 408 ms 399 ms POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.145]
11 430 ms 399 ms 408 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
12 430 ms 398 ms 409 ms POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
13 430 ms 398 ms 409 ms 204.255.174.174
14 439 ms 416 ms 400 ms tbr1-p013902.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.66]
15 430 ms 418 ms 409 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
16 459 ms 439 ms 439 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
17 489 ms 470 ms 469 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
18 510 ms 468 ms 469 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
122]
19 * * * Request timed out.
20 * * * Request timed out.
21 * * * Request timed out.
22 * * * Request timed out.
23 * * * Request timed out.
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OMFG today tm cib^* net is so fging ghay!

i can reach up to 8k ping!!!.

i tot can play after a tired day but what the hell man!
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Was PKing at Stranglethorn around 6am and suddently everything froze.... And couldnt manage to get back again. Luckily the rogue fled halfway, donno why. (Checked later that I was alive)

Anyway, when we called them at 8:30am, they still have no idea whats happening. After that, as promised few days ago, they sent a bunch of guys over at 9:30am. Guess what? These guys arent even related to Streamyx!! Its just a bunch of telekom guys checking whether my phone line is working or not =.= Then they got stucked too and was confuse, and my friend was scolding and cursing streamyx in front of them lol.

Anyway, this is what I got from their customer support, that it will be back by tommorow. I dont know whether to believe them or not. Dint even bother to login cuz it took too long to get the realm page out, guess its at least 20k ping.
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lol..
i was in ubrs earlier this afternoon and i keep getting fast forward scenes.
sigh, not sure when tmnet going to complete fixing the problems.
was getting like 20k-30k ms then got dropped. hahaha.
anyway, do any of yall know where does the shadowcraft boots and shoulders drop?
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QUOTE(Maxter @ Apr 7 2005, 05:01 PM)
219.93 ip is the server ip r u sure u got that ip ...
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any other ways to check IP except whatismyip.com which show me tat i got 219.93 unsure.gif
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Lol !! been enjoying WOW past months with latency of 300-700. Suddenly today skyrocketing to >15k . Thought want to call up TMnet to @#$!%^&*$@%$%$#%. Then realised this helpful forum.

Anyone have any idea when connection will go back to normal???Hopefully the repair not extennded to weeks.
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This is prolly gonna last atleast a few days, since this sin't a small matter. From how they discribe it, its seems like the underwater cable is faulty
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QUOTE(sanylcs @ Apr 7 2005, 07:41 PM)
any other ways to check IP except whatismyip.com which show me tat i got 219.93  unsure.gif
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While connected to the internet there is a pc icon on ur task bar, double click it then select details: the client Ip is ur Ip address smile.gif
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goto dos command screen by running CMD.
Then type IPCONFIG
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"Hey guys. There is a sea cable cut on APCN2 near HK-China affecting Internet connection to overseas esp US. Traffic are being routed to SMW3 cable but users will expect congestion.
So far I think it affects Singnet. I checked Starhub bb is ok."

quote from singapore user. they also effected by this problem
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"Hey guys. There is a sea cable cut on APCN2 near HK-China affecting Internet connection to overseas esp US. Traffic are being routed to SMW3 cable but users will expect congestion.
So far I think it affects Singnet. I checked Starhub bb is ok."

quote from singapore user. they also effected by this problem
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I hope this'll fix the latency issue once and for all!
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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 7 2005, 10:44 PM)
I hope this'll fix the latency issue once and for all!
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I don't the problem we're facing is related to the current TMNet problem.
I do hope they fix ours when they got that fixed, but seriously, I don't think so.
The current problem is due to a international cable problem which affect Jaring and TMnet. The problem we have affects only streamyx ppl with IP219 range.

The only theory I can think of is that IP219 is congested hence the latency. IP218 and IP60 might have a smaller population hence the relatively free lag. This also could explain why the ping time for IP219 during the early mornings are low and steadly increases to the evening.

I also suspect TMNet is implementing so kind of throttling on P2P user. Those users that is on BT or Emule might notice huge drop in download speed the last few weeks. I also believe certain ports related to P2P are throttled to prevent P2P users hogging all the bandwidth. The reason I know this is because if you switch to other port other than the default one in your P2P software, the download speed goes back to normal.

I do not know if 'tweaking' done by TMnet affects the ports used by WoW.

All the above is just a theory, please welcome to shoot it down. smile.gif
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lost boy u are totally lost.. and im lost too... but i really feel this connection slow.. for to day... it's extremely slow... even dl ofo affected... haih ppl talking about the connection in our broadband forum... my fren oso complainin alot about tis... dammm hopefully this will be fik like today.. as if it can be fix
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QUOTE(mambo @ Apr 7 2005, 11:41 PM)
lost boy u are totally lost.. and im lost too... but i really feel this connection slow.. for to day... it's extremely slow... even dl ofo affected... haih ppl talking about the connection in our broadband forum... my fren oso complainin alot about tis... dammm hopefully this will be fik like today.. as if it can be fix
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LOL!! True true I might a bit lost in all this, since I've been following this thread since PAGE ONE. This thread has nothing to do with what happended today. This thread is about what has happened since 3 weeks ago. We are wishing what happened today will fix what we've suffered for the last 3 weeks. Do read the threads and you might realise that I'm not that lost after all. smile.gif

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I agree with you on the over-congestion of 219.xxx but not the tweaking.

It's more likely that Streamyx screwed up on one of their infrastructure upgrades. This affected the 219, not the 218 because the upgrade was for 219s. Over the past 2 months, there's been a high subscription to Streamyx - hence the first problem.

The new problem, technically, should not improve WoW situation as it's not exclusive to Streamyx. However if Streamyx put the effort into their piping then WoW should be fine because it'll help the congestion. I doubt this will happen because new pipes means spending. And TMNet is all about max profit.

Our Problem: WoW - over subscription
New Problem: Int'l problem - Malaysiawide

Get Jaring, Maxis or ISDN. I played 5 toons on EQ using ISDN. Ping was 350 max and that's during raids (with 65 people in 1 zone).



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I don't the problem we're facing is related to the current TMNet problem.
I do hope they fix ours when they got that fixed, but seriously, I don't think so.
The current problem is due to a international cable problem which affect Jaring and TMnet. The problem we have affects only streamyx ppl with IP219 range.

The only theory I can think of is that IP219 is congested hence the latency. IP218 and IP60 might have a smaller population hence the relatively free lag. This also could explain why the ping time for IP219 during the early mornings are low and steadly increases to the evening.

I also suspect TMNet is implementing so kind of throttling on P2P user. Those users that is on BT or Emule might notice huge drop in download speed the last few weeks. I also believe certain ports related to P2P are throttled to prevent P2P users hogging all the bandwidth. The reason I know this is because if you switch to other port other than the default one in your P2P software, the download speed goes back to normal.

I do not know if 'tweaking' done by TMnet affects the ports used by WoW.

All the above is just a theory, please welcome to shoot it down. smile.gif
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The one thing that I couldn't explain is that during the last 3 weeks and if you've been following the threads, there is one particular day that IP219 suddenly becomes LAG FREE. I was playing WoW with 500-700ms pings. Just that one day. The next day, back to the same old >1k pings. Strange. That one day nobody was online?

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Okay, we're getting way too many threads related to connection issues. So, from now on everything regarding your net connection for WoW comes in here.
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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Apr 8 2005, 12:13 AM)
The one thing that I couldn't explain is that during the last 3 weeks and if you've been following the threads, there is one particular day that IP219 suddenly becomes LAG FREE. I was playing WoW with 500-700ms pings. Just that one day. The next day, back to the same old >1k pings. Strange. That one day nobody was online?
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QUOTE(LoStBoYz @ Apr 8 2005, 12:13 AM)
The one thing that I couldn't explain is that during the last 3 weeks and if you've been following the threads, there is one particular day that IP219 suddenly becomes LAG FREE. I was playing WoW with 500-700ms pings. Just that one day. The next day, back to the same old >1k pings. Strange. That one day nobody was online?
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That was the best WoW day for me since beta. First time I played consistantly in the 'yellow' zone and occasionally dipped into the 'green' zone (roughly 300ms). Too bad it lasted only for a few hours. cry.gif
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Yeah I've been following this thread too.

That one day I'd say there were less people online. But that may be too fluky. The only other solid explanation is that streamyx was messing about with the traffic.

Whatever the case is, we should be pinging US with 300s or max 400s and with no spikes at all. Over subscription with shite infrastructure is what makes it >500s.

*Best effort basis .. what a bunch of lazy tarts. Shame on you monopolists.


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The one thing that I couldn't explain is that during the last 3 weeks and if you've been following the threads, there is one particular day that IP219 suddenly becomes LAG FREE. I was playing WoW with 500-700ms pings. Just that one day. The next day, back to the same old >1k pings. Strange. That one day nobody was online?
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This is on 218.xxx.xxx yesterday

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congratulation u have hit the max ping amount.... hehehehe i cant even dl the update. take me one week for tis update to be finish dl, For sure it's not wow problem but that basta** in TMNUT STREAMIK dunno wat they doin right now. my fren connection also slow can even hit the monster.hahahaha funny we pay and get bad service..... AS for now we only can dream to have <500 ping.
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When the international lines fixup happens, they will surely find out in their diagnostics about the 219 over-leasing issue. There's no longer an excuse, even after ignoring our complaints. If they still leave it then it pretty much sums up what Streamyx is all about - half arsed.


From IP 219

Tracing route to everquest.com [64.37.156.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 21 ms 23 ms 22 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.216.125
4 20 ms 22 ms 22 ms 219.93.155.41
5 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 210.187.142.1
7 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
8 * * 22 ms 210.187.129.171
9 549 ms 533 ms 531 ms POS5-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.214.117]
10 617 ms 609 ms 623 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 2926 ms 2935 ms 2924 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.10]
12 637 ms 642 ms 661 ms 0.so-5-1-0.TL2.LAX9.ALTER.NET [152.63.15.249]
13 2949 ms 2947 ms 2943 ms 0.so-2-0-0.XL2.SDG2.ALTER.NET [152.63.117.25]
14 2767 ms 2773 ms 2745 ms 510.ATM6-0.GW3.SDG2.ALTER.NET [152.63.113.237]
15 2858 ms 2835 ms 2839 ms sony-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.231.186]
16 2798 ms 2734 ms 2705 ms gi2-2.sdtermsw-2.sonyonline.net [64.37.144.158]

17 2595 ms 2535 ms 2595 ms vl182.sdt-slb1.sonyonline.net [64.37.144.26]
18 2717 ms * 2808 ms www.everquest.com [64.37.156.16]

Trace complete.


From IP 218

Tracing route to everquest.com [64.37.156.16]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 32 ms 25 ms 32 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.117
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.155.37
5 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 210.187.142.1
7 20 ms 20 ms 21 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
8 20 ms 22 ms 21 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

9 863 ms 852 ms 860 ms POS1-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.181]
10 836 ms 839 ms * 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 835 ms 846 ms 832 ms 0.so-3-0-0.TL2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.10]
12 848 ms 844 ms 854 ms 0.so-5-0-0.TL2.LAX2.ALTER.NET [152.63.2.157]
13 854 ms 852 ms 855 ms 0.so-4-0-0.XL2.SDG2.ALTER.NET [152.63.117.22]
14 856 ms 862 ms 855 ms 510.ATM6-0.GW3.SDG2.ALTER.NET [152.63.113.237]
15 874 ms 879 ms 875 ms sony-gw.customer.alter.net [157.130.231.186]
16 863 ms 866 ms 874 ms gi2-2.sdtermsw-2.sonyonline.net [64.37.144.158]

17 871 ms 862 ms * vl182.sdt-slb1.sonyonline.net [64.37.144.26]
18 867 ms 864 ms 878 ms www.everquest.com [64.37.156.16]

Trace complete.
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This is on 218.xxx.xxx yesterday

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Any suggestion wat should i do this weekend?? Anyone? sweat.gif
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Same here.. hopefully they fix it like fast..
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Singtel says it will be fixed today.
My other sources tells me it will be fixed on Saturday 0100 UTC

10 gp I say its next week.. wink.gif

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So sad lah, i'm so close in getting my lvl 40 mount. Now with this issue, I couldn't even play T_T
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Damn...today can't play WoW again. l HATE you...streamyx!!!!!!
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I'm getting 10k ms constant but it takes more than a minute for my messages to go through, or receive. Waited for 40 seconds for the mail box to load and gave up, couldnt quit the normal way so alt f4ed :/ Anyway, browsing through the main WoW web and forums are damn smooth, it was taking ages to load before this new problem arose.
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you guys don't even have to launch streamyx to test.. just do a simple ping to www.yahoo.com
if you get 200-300ms.. it means it's *probably* been fixed. it's a pretty okay indicator I would say..

At the moment you should all be getting close to 3000ms to good ol' yahoo.com smile.gif

yahooooooo!!! tongue.gif

edit : i'm doing this to test general streamyx internet connectivity.. not just to wow.. tongue.gif so you guys don't have to load up wow, select char, go in, see latency.. so long.. just open up dos prompt and ping...

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crapz... i was hoping for the weekend to come and get my mount.. alrady half way through lvl 39 and now..... it lags like hell this sucks !
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wow this thread got pinned. i bet NOW most of malaysia kena this now since the lag just went nationwide.....

well here's to a better line tomorrow, or day after, or next week, sometime soon! cheers!
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My latency in game is only 2753ms. It may not seem to be too bad but its totally unplayable. The chat takes 25 mins to come out last night. Even the spells never seems to go off after 30 mins...still shows as casting. And have to Alt+F4 to quit the program.
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ya it's not bad at this moment of time it's actually great... cos people can reach 10 to 20k ping. just hope the line will be fix sooooooonnnnn coz cant tahan too long with out fast internet connection. it's like using 56k only... haih.. like tis only can play local online game... R.O oh noooo.
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i'm on 218.111 and my route seem to difer from my last post. i am still using the same 218.111 since my last post. anyone one 218 facing the problem today??

#traceroute us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
traceroute: Warning: us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com has multiple addresses; using
12.129.232.112
traceroute to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com (12.129.232.112), 30 hops max, 38 byt
e packets
1 219.93.218.177 (219.93.218.177) 29.722 ms 21.935 ms 26.525 ms
2 219.93.216.21 (219.93.216.21) 19.829 ms 18.751 ms 20.606 ms
3 210.187.129.131 (210.187.129.131) 19.586 ms 19.538 ms 19.830 ms
4 210.187.129.139 (210.187.129.139) 19.884 ms 20.531 ms 19.628 ms
5 210.187.15.253 (210.187.15.253) 20.101 ms 22.501 ms 21.351 ms
6 210.187.142.1 (210.187.142.1) 22.060 ms 22.249 ms 19.657 ms
7 vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my (219.93.175.115) 164.790 ms 20.495 ms 22.450 m
s
8 * 210.187.129.171 (210.187.129.171) 21.522 ms *
9 POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (157.130.210.145) 2713.916 ms 2784.255 ms 2777.
618 ms
10 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.126) 1284.304 ms 1266.817 ms 127
5.417 ms
11 POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.229) 2810.672 ms * 2791.956 ms
12 204.255.174.174 (204.255.174.174) 3070.019 ms 3069.576 ms 3072.421 ms
13 tbr1-p013902.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.66) 2766.859 ms 2729.242 ms *
14 * gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.78) 2766.365 ms 2774.050 ms
15 gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.161) 2699.782 ms * 2636.010 ms
16 mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net (12.122.255.254) 2692.174 ms 2711.936
ms 2623.588 ms
17 * * mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net (12.129.192.122) 3114.572 ms

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i'm on 218.111 and my route seem to difer from my last post. i am still using the same 218.111 since my last post. anyone one 218 facing the problem today??

#traceroute us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com
traceroute: Warning: us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com has multiple addresses; using
12.129.232.112
traceroute to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com (12.129.232.112), 30 hops max, 38 byt
e packets
1  219.93.218.177 (219.93.218.177)  29.722 ms  21.935 ms  26.525 ms
2  219.93.216.21 (219.93.216.21)  19.829 ms  18.751 ms  20.606 ms
3  210.187.129.131 (210.187.129.131)  19.586 ms  19.538 ms  19.830 ms
4  210.187.129.139 (210.187.129.139)  19.884 ms  20.531 ms  19.628 ms
5  210.187.15.253 (210.187.15.253)  20.101 ms  22.501 ms  21.351 ms
6  210.187.142.1 (210.187.142.1)  22.060 ms  22.249 ms  19.657 ms
7  vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my (219.93.175.115)  164.790 ms  20.495 ms  22.450 m
s
8  * 210.187.129.171 (210.187.129.171)  21.522 ms *
9  POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET (157.130.210.145)  2713.916 ms  2784.255 ms  2777.
618 ms
10  0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.54.126)  1284.304 ms  1266.817 ms  127
5.417 ms
11  POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET (152.63.52.229)  2810.672 ms *  2791.956 ms
12  204.255.174.174 (204.255.174.174)  3070.019 ms  3069.576 ms  3072.421 ms
13  tbr1-p013902.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.66)  2766.859 ms  2729.242 ms *
14  * gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net (12.122.11.78)  2766.365 ms  2774.050 ms
15  gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net (12.123.13.161)  2699.782 ms *  2636.010 ms
16  mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net (12.122.255.254)  2692.174 ms  2711.936
ms  2623.588 ms
17  * * mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-4-2.lax1.attens.net (12.129.192.122)  3114.572 ms
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YES. everyone facing problem now.

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ah, just got home from work, try to login......success.....go to char, its takes 5 seconds for my guild tabard to load on my char select screen...nvm.....i press enter go in......wait.......took about 2-3mins to reach into game.....woot. in game, 7991ms...nice, move around, typed something, no msg, i know i am lagging, wait.....wait, took a pee, come back, still same, everybody i see unknown entity, myself also unknown entity. fine, fixed something to drink. come back still 7991ms, everything still not yet move, still lagged...that was about 20mins i waited. ALT+F4.

sigh. some of my mails will be bounced/gone liao if i don't check them soon..... :~
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Just to brag, my all time latency will always be the 27,000+ ping I had in January 2005. That was nice. Can anyone beat that??? :o)

Anyway, ever since the Dire Maul patch (22nd March?), my daily latency has gone crazy. It's more than the usual 1k-2k (that is considered NORMAL for me now. On good days, it's 400-600). Currently I'm facing a daily ping of 4k-10k. It seems to rise by 2k after every minute. Eventually my Level 60 druid gets killed by them level 36 kobolds near Hammerfall (Refuge Point).

I'm just happy that I'm not alone in this problem. But this has been going on for over 2 weeks for me now, and it's getting annoying. Very annoying...
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Sometimes I really wonder how with all the superb high pings and all we can still stay in the game for so long without getting linkdeath or something. Can anyone please tell me how is this possible. Anyway, this just brings to the fragile state we are all in...so totally dependend on the scremyx service that we will be left with an unplayable game if they failed to buck up. I mean the undersea cable being disrupted happened only like last November right? Just a few months later and it screws up again? Just how many times does the cable need to screw up in a year?

p/s: I am really pissed now. Just a few days ago, I found a cyber cafe that allows me to play WoW normally(400ms on average) after 2 weeks of 2k pings at my home PC. I though at least with the cyber cafe, I could kind of immerse myself into the game once again. How wrong I am! Who would have known that the worst has yet to come.


I take back what I said...found Autosurf and guess what 210ms latency. Awesome. Guess I am so here until they fix the streamyx shit.

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who know how long we will be in the dark with out normal connection speed???? aaahhhh it's week end for god sake please give us speed......
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Further to our announcement, we are pleased to inform our Internet users that most of our service is restored. You may continue to experience some delay when accessing websites hosted outside of Singapore as the system is being normalised.


But my ingame ping is still 10k++ or so
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i dont know what happened, previously changing the the connection IP to 218.202 .... will solve the problem, but now the lag is even worse ... sometimes it reaches 27000 ms = 27 ms . WTF is this ... i'm paying good money for nothing ...
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Me face dam lagging yesteday...My latency normal is ~400+ but yesterday sot liao...up until 11k....Starting i tot is server problem..but i ask my frenz(US) all in good latency...only me that high...Even my frenz from Singapore also ~1k+ even lag. After that i call to Telekom streamyx teachnical find out whats going on with my area line problem...them sa is because gateway got problem , so whole national line also face the same problem connecting slow or cant connect it.
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i dont know what happened, previously changing the the connection IP to 218.202 .... will solve the problem, but now the lag is even worse ... sometimes it reaches 27000 ms = 27 ms . WTF is this ... i'm paying good money for nothing ...
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Hmm I'm thinking that TM Net should reserve traffic for gamers, which excludes the 'normal' community's. Who needs good latency more than anything else?

These normal web surfers use e-mail, yahoo, hotmail. They dont realise if there's 1-2 secs delay.

This is the only way for Malaysia/Telekom to move forward. "Know your stuff"! And we'll forgive you for being IT illiterate.
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They should offer a 'gaming package' with better download/upload speed ration. I wouldn't mind paying the extra cost if it's like rm10-25 extra!

PS: The net's so slow that when I enter the game, it hangs while loading!
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If we had a decent ISP, we shouldn't even need to think of this. But being that we're dealing with politicians with wallets in their minds, this is the solution to satisfy their greed.

Yeah..add 20-40 ringgit more for the Gaming Package.

Alternatively, get investors to buy Malaysia out. Quality is long overdue in this country.
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And it'll get oversubscribed and we'll be back to square one. hehehe
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what bout 56k.. still the same madness?
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post Apr 8 2005, 09:33 PM

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Ok with all the rants going on (hehe)
Is there someone out there actually able to play WoW without any troubles?
If there is someone out there that could at this moment...
Would you please share your little secret?
Thanks in advance.
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post Apr 8 2005, 09:43 PM

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QUOTE(Oturanubna @ Apr 8 2005, 09:33 PM)
Ok with all the rants going on (hehe)
Is there someone out there actually able to play WoW without any troubles?
If there is someone out there that could at this moment...
Would you please share your little secret?
Thanks in advance.
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Well there will be a World of Warcraft Boardgame coming out by the end of this year. I guess those hardcore can get one of these just in case something like this happends again, they can still play WoW. smile.gif
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post Apr 8 2005, 10:34 PM

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Well, just read this on the broadband forums on LYN itslef. here's the link to that thread for those too lazy to go there themselves

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=144843

Anyway...

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The first fault point is near BU4 in segment 8. Cable ship Retriever had commenced the investigation since 3-April. Due to the simultaneous failure of S3. The investigation was ceased and it commenced cable re-joining. Expected the segment be back to service at 1200UTC 9-April (8PM M'sia time).

This may be the problem thats affected the 219.xx.xx.xx IP for the past 3 weeks. Hopefully this will solve the high latency some people have been seeing.

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Another cable cut appeared at S3 on 2202UTC 6-April (7-April 6AM M'sia time). The fault is about 594km from Shanghai Chongming cable station. Due to the double fault situation, the ring switch at S8 was defeated and it caused traffic interruption. Carriers are doing the best effort to restore the service via their own facility.

This should be the recent problem that has everyone complaining. Things should be looking up soon then.

Good luck to everyone. Keep your fingers crossed and you'll still have your Sunday WoW maraton (You know you do! Don't hide)

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post Apr 8 2005, 11:05 PM

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so tomorrow wat should i do? any suggestion? tongue.gif
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post Apr 8 2005, 11:15 PM

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tomorrow ah? start crying to tm "F" net and beg them for some miricle!
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post Apr 8 2005, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(zweimmk @ Apr 8 2005, 07:49 AM)
This is on 218.xxx.xxx yesterday

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Someone please give me a prize for winning the Internet.

TQ.
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Lol i win you alot. see my latency

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Wolfgard
post Apr 9 2005, 12:22 AM

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Strange... when I entered just now, it was VERY fast. Almost back to normal but hung right after loading. Then I tried again, and managed to enter with 5k ping. *sigh*

EDIT: Wah Wah...500ms and counting!

EDIT2: Stablized at 1134ms! Sweet! Play time!

EDIT3: Dratz...the connection is very unstable...it states there 2400ms now, but the response is like 700-1500ms with periodic lag spikes.

This post has been edited by Wolfgard: Apr 9 2005, 12:33 AM
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:37 AM

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ok connected to 219.93.xxx.xxx

in game ping shown is 3k. but im getting fast response sometimes. its fast and slow fast and slow. Very unstable.
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:39 AM

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It's back up to 4k again. False hope...sheesh. Sometimes fast (normal speed, can cast instantaneously) and mostly laggy.

EDIT: Response can be very very unpredictable. I dare not leave the UC in case everything goes back to 10k while I'm stuck outside not getting the rest bonuses.

This post has been edited by Wolfgard: Apr 9 2005, 12:43 AM
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:46 AM

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using 219.95 ip:
Pinging 12.118.44.5 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=398ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=343ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=360ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=373ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=358ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=391ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=377ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=357ms TTL=240
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=357ms TTL=240
Reply from 12.118.44.5: bytes=32 time=359ms TTL=240


350+ ping to the server, but times out intermittently.
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:49 AM

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QUOTE(eikan @ Apr 8 2005, 11:05 PM)
so tomorrow wat should i do? any suggestion? tongue.gif
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I dont have any idea too unsure.gif
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:50 AM

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I'm running on 219.95 too. Yes, it's shifts from fast to slow and back again. I'm not sure I should be happy or angry now...considering I can actually play decently. But, I'll stay in game for awhile more just to check on the lag rate:

My rough estimate of ping rate based on in game response:
Fast: about 500-700ms
Slow: varies from 2000ms to 6000ms.

Average based on latency meter: varies from 2500-4500ms. Strange huh?
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post Apr 9 2005, 12:53 AM

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post Apr 9 2005, 12:59 AM

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Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.116]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 21 ms 21 ms 22 ms 219.93.218.177
3 23 ms 21 ms 19 ms 219.93.216.109
4 20 ms 35 ms 21 ms 219.93.155.33
5 20 ms 43 ms 22 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 20 ms 20 ms 18 ms 210.187.142.1
7 18 ms 19 ms 20 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
8 38 ms 20 ms 20 ms 210.187.129.171
9 279 ms 280 ms 280 ms POS5-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.141]
10 * 286 ms 286 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 295 ms 292 ms * POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12 240 ms 238 ms 239 ms 204.255.174.174
13 * * * Request timed out.
14 246 ms * * gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
15 248 ms 247 ms 246 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 * 256 ms 251 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 249 ms * * mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
110]
18 * * * Request timed out.
19 * * ^C

Looking good! That means the problem we were experiencing for the last 3 weeks is indeed related to the current one. Still, in game latency is hovering at 4k.

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QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 9 2005, 12:50 AM)
I'm running on 219.95 too. Yes, it's shifts from fast to slow and back again. I'm not sure I should be happy or angry now...considering I can actually play decently. But, I'll stay in game for awhile more just to check on the lag rate:

My rough estimate of ping rate based on in game response:
Fast: about 500-700ms
Slow: varies from 2000ms to 6000ms.

Average based on latency meter: varies from 2500-4500ms. Strange huh?
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Haha Wolf, im experiencing exactly the same thing. Got invited to Sunken Temple, latency shoots up to 8k. Cant play. Relog hearth back to Orgy quit. At least we know that they are somehow fixing it, and its a good sign. 219 might get back to normal. smile.gif
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post Apr 9 2005, 01:23 AM

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From 218

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.117
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.155.37
5 21 ms 20 ms 22 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms 210.187.142.1
7 20 ms 22 ms 35 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
8 20 ms 22 ms 21 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

9 * * 867 ms POS5-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.214.117]
10 870 ms 866 ms * 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 * 861 ms 861 ms POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12 878 ms * 878 ms 204.255.174.178
13 867 ms 864 ms 871 ms tbr1-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.217]
14 863 ms 867 ms 859 ms gbr5-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.74]
15 870 ms 868 ms 865 ms gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 873 ms 875 ms 882 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 872 ms 880 ms 875 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
110]
18 * ^C

From 219

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 219.93.218.177
3 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.216.125
4 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.155.33
5 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 21 ms 20 ms 21 ms 210.187.142.1
7 22 ms 21 ms 21 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
8 20 ms 21 ms 21 ms 210.187.129.171
9 297 ms * * POS5-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.141]
10 295 ms * 295 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 289 ms 291 ms 290 ms POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12 * 249 ms 248 ms 204.255.174.178
13 250 ms 251 ms 247 ms tbr2-p013802.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.229]
14 249 ms 247 ms * gbr5-p20.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.90]
15 241 ms * * gar3-p360.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.157]
16 256 ms * 256 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * ^C


I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet. The above demonstrates TMnet realising that they can get less complaints from people who did not check latest news. And the fact that they dumped most people on 219s, their temp solution is to throttle the bandwidth for the majority's benefit.

Lets not forget these servers are temporary routers and we're pinging at 1:00 AM in the morning on a Friday night. During the day, it should be completely different story.

It only makes sense to pass judgement when they officially announce they've completely (and supposedly) nailed the current issues.

QUOTE(Wolfgard @ Apr 9 2005, 12:59 AM)
Looking good! That means the problem we were experiencing for the last 3 weeks is indeed related to the current one. Still, in game latency is hovering at 4k.
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Yeah I'm getting lots of packet loss on 219.95.xxx. I can go around harvesting herbs tho. Just have to tahan the intermittent periods of 'time outs'

93 and 94 are still unplayable (2k+ ping). If you want to at least browse/play AH, reconnect until you get 95.


1 * * * Request timed out.
2 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 219.93.218.177
3 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms 219.93.216.189
4 23 ms 21 ms 27 ms 210.187.143.5
5 86 ms 215 ms 198 ms 210.187.142.1
6 23 ms 23 ms 23 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
7 22 ms 21 ms 23 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

8 * 282 ms 283 ms POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.145]
9 283 ms * 282 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.122]
10 * 280 ms * POS6-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.225]
11 241 ms * 242 ms 204.255.174.174
12 * 243 ms 239 ms tbr2-p013202.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.70]
13 248 ms * 248 ms 12.122.11.94
14 240 ms 241 ms 243 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
15 252 ms 250 ms 249 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
16 249 ms 250 ms * mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
126]
17 * * * Request timed out.

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how about this? thumbup.gif thumbup.gif before it shot up 6k biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

hope tomorrow will be better smile.gif

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I wouldn't get my hopes up just yet. The above demonstrates TMnet realising that they can get less complaints from people who did not check latest news. And the fact that they dumped most people on 219s, their temp solution is to throttle the bandwidth for the majority's benefit.

Lets not forget these servers are temporary routers and we're pinging at 1:00 AM in the morning on a Friday night. During the day, it should be completely different story.

It only makes sense to pass judgement when they officially announce they've completely (and supposedly) nailed the current issues.


Ah haha....I made it to Org (the zepp ride was horrible! When it loaded completely and stop lagging, the zepp was about to head back to UC. I jumped down as soon as I could)! Yes! Now to spend time in the AH and level my tailoring and enchanting.

Yep, don't put too much hope on this yet. That I know. It might become worse tomorrow.
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Same here, suddently its like instant to anything I do which never happen before, ever, and suddently it lags a lot huh.gif When it loaded fast like it was previously connecting I was so happy I jumped around (Dont blame me, I'm having 3 weeks of unplayable lag previously) but then when it was unstable, I came here, and sighed. Anyhow, its some improvement, hope it will only get better unsure.gif

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Well, the packet losses makes the game equally unplayable.... We'll just have to wait it out until the cables are fixed. Normally 1am in the morning, for the last 3 weeks, the ping is equally bad, even up to 3am. So I doubt its due to ppl not on the internet much. Most of them P2P'ers will leave their proggy running overnights anyways..... The pings are where it should be, now all it needs is to get the packet losses cleared. smile.gif
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Hmm... Latency fluctuating from 600-1200...

UPDATE: Ha ha ha.. Spoke too soon.. Latency back up to the 2000s. But again fluctuates from good to bad. Sometimes my instant spells are cast instantly... Sometimes.. not so instant. I have my fingers crossed and hope for the best!

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post Apr 9 2005, 08:24 AM

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Well from my end.. Timenet.. I am getting about 250ms to WoW now biggrin.gif

From home, I am getting around 250ms to yahoo... but there's some pretty severe packet drop.. i think they are still working on it... smile.gif
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I just pinged yahoo (am on streamyx here) and got 257, but there's still some pretty severe packet loss. *sigh*
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post Apr 9 2005, 09:14 AM

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This is what I got right now in my office.


Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.112]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 * * * Request timed out.
2 24 ms 21 ms 21 ms 219.93.218.177
3 19 ms 20 ms 19 ms 219.93.216.181
4 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms 210.187.143.4
5 20 ms 19 ms 36 ms 210.187.142.1
6 58 ms 19 ms 19 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
7 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms 210.187.129.171
8 283 ms 284 ms 294 ms POS1-1.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.181]
9 * 299 ms 291 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.122]
10 282 ms * * POS6-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.225]
11 * * 236 ms 204.255.174.178
12 242 ms 243 ms 242 ms tbr1-p013902.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.66]
13 233 ms * * gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
14 * 294 ms * gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
15 253 ms 251 ms 251 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
16 246 ms 244 ms 243 ms mdf1-bi8k-2-eth-1-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
242]
17 * * * Request timed out.
18 * * * Request timed out.
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post Apr 9 2005, 09:29 AM

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EDIT: False alarm

Those fortunate enough to get 218.111.xxx should stick to it. I'll give test report of the 219s later.

From 218.111.xxx

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 22 ms 23 ms 22 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 43 ms 21 ms 219.93.216.125
4 22 ms 21 ms 20 ms 219.93.155.41
5 21 ms 22 ms 20 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 210.187.142.1
7 23 ms 22 ms 42 ms vlan150-brf-sw04.tm.net.my [219.93.175.115]
8 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 210.187.129.171
9 283 ms * 280 ms POS2-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.145]
10 284 ms 281 ms 281 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR1.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.122]
11 282 ms 281 ms 280 ms POS6-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.225]
12 240 ms 248 ms * 204.255.174.174
13 * 251 ms * tbr1-p013902.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.66]
14 245 ms 246 ms 244 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
15 * 248 ms 247 ms gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16 * 250 ms * mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 * * 238 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-1.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
250]


From 218.208.xxx

Tracing route to us.logon.worldofwarcraft.com [12.129.232.111]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.0.1
2 31 ms 23 ms 28 ms 219.93.218.177
3 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 219.93.216.117
4 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms 219.93.155.37
5 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms brf-odsy01-srp1-0.tm.net.my [210.187.135.1]
6 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms 210.187.142.1
7 22 ms 22 ms 22 ms vlan150-brf-sw03.tm.net.my [219.93.175.114]
8 21 ms 21 ms 20 ms brf-backbone02-ether0-0.tm.net.my [202.188.0.8]

9 * * 877 ms POS5-2.IG3.SAC1.ALTER.NET [157.130.210.141]
10 885 ms 880 ms 876 ms 0.so-0-1-0.XR2.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.54.126]
11 854 ms * 857 ms POS7-0.BR5.SAC1.ALTER.NET [152.63.52.229]
12 880 ms 874 ms * 204.255.174.174
13 880 ms 878 ms 882 ms tbr1-p013302.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.217]
14 854 ms * 859 ms gbr6-p100.sffca.ip.att.net [12.122.11.78]
15 855 ms 857 ms * gar3-p370.sffca.ip.att.net [12.123.13.161]
16 884 ms 884 ms 879 ms mdf1-gsr12-2-pos-7-0.lax1.attens.net [12.122.255
.254]
17 889 ms 888 ms 893 ms mdf1-bi8k-1-eth-2-3.lax1.attens.net [12.129.192.
126]
18 * * ^C

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post Apr 9 2005, 09:42 AM

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looks good, hope it is fixed by the time i get back from work....

my march subscription for wow was a completely wasted experience....almost 4 weeks didn't play the game already now. blizz got a free rm60 from me, i bet most of u also same biggrin.gif

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haiz....no hope liaw for today. Ping will shot up after a few minutes. sad.gif
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Login is very fast, as if its lagless, but 10 seconds into the game and the ping shoots up to 13k, and then everything freezes. Seems to me it got worse doh.gif
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Guess it's time to take that long deserved break from WoW.
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lol after reading all the comments, i feel lucky didnt' subscribe the NA WoW server, coz last time i play Priston Tale which hosted in US, the game always lagging (until today the lagging problem still cannot be fix). for simple reason, coz our connection is too far from US. (no matter how good the game connection part is taken account)

well, i'd joined the NA WoW Beta test, and i notice that WoW is doing very well on the game connection part (my ping is around 300-500ms), atleast i can't feel lagging in the town or fighting npc (PT can lag in anytime no matter u in town or fighting -.-' ) but when i join RAID group and trying to invade the opponent, then the lagging problem is back, my ping up to 800ms or more (i can't remember liao).

so i asked myself if i can't join the RAID group for PvP, whats the point i subscribe for p2p ? PT also a PvE game doh.gif i just want something new ^^; btw, i believe we can get ping around 60-200ms in SEA server, and it is good for PvP ^^ so let's wait for SEA server release bah`
Ellee
post Apr 9 2005, 12:05 PM

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Daily Internet Fees = Rm88/31 = Rm2.82
Daily Wow Fees = Rm 120/61 = Rm1.95
Amount expected rebate from Tmnet = Rm0.00
Not being able to play WoW = Priceless
zenith
post Apr 9 2005, 12:26 PM

The Beginning of the Very End
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FOR GOD SAKE! let me play for 4 hours now!!!
TSretsmot
post Apr 9 2005, 12:37 PM

the power cosmic!
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wah, 20th ah. this gonna be interesting as my subscription ends on 20th. any of u cancel account b4? just asking.
Wolfgard
post Apr 9 2005, 12:40 PM

Real life Orc in Australia, rawr
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Still no change today. Logging in as if no lag, enter with 500ms, everything smooth but after a minute or two, everything freezes.

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