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post Aug 18 2011, 10:27 PM, updated 9y ago

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A hamster is a rodent belonging to the subfamily Cricetinae. There are 5 types of hamsters, mainly the Syrian, Winter white dwarf, Russian campbell dwarf, Chinese hamsters and Roborovski hamsters.

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SPECIES:
Syrians (Mesocricetus auratus)
They are the best known species in the pet industry. Syrians are also known as Golden Hamsters because the first domestic hamster was a wild agouti colour, which is called Golden. They have also been called Teddy Bears because does have the fuzziness and roundness of a teddy bear. Syrians are known as fancy hamsters of all the hamster species since they come in many colour varieties and also coat varieties... some can have long fur and some short fur, which we normally call Long Hairs and Short Hairs... also there are fur types like Rex and Satin.

The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.

Syrians are large and comfortable to hold. They make suitable hamsters for the beginner keeper. Syrians that are handled properly would rarely or never bite, and can be tame to respond well to touch and voice.

Campbell's Hamster (Phodopus campbelli)
Campbells are probably the most popular of all dwarf hamsters since they come in many colour varieties that makes them attractive. The look similar to Winter White hamsters but they are actually different subspecies. So never mixbreed them.

Campbells are dwarfs... well, small hamsters. Please do not be fooled by petshops telling you they are mini hamsters and giving you a weird price and denying that they are Campbells. Anyway, they come in different colour and patterns but to breed, one must understand that hamsters that have any white spots or markings must never be bred together coz it can produce eyeless or teethless hamsters that die later... so if you were to breed, please read up.

These dwarfs may not be suitable for young children due to some dwarfs are bitey... and because of their small size, it would be harder for children to handle. Campbells are not aggressive biters, it is just that sometimes they will bite when you make them angry or startle them from their sleep.

Campbells are good in a pair or a small colony but always make sure your cage or tank has the space and enough hides and wheels to house a colony. These social hamsters are territorial and would fight off intruders that do not belong to their colony. Campbells are ok when they are introduced at a young age but letting an older hamster be kept with a younger one, most likely a fight would start.

Winter White Hamster (Phodopus sungorus)
WW are hamsters that can change their coat colour when we minimise their daylight. Their coats will change from their normal colours to a white coat but with their dorsal stripe and side arches visible. WW come in 3 colours, which are Agouti, Sapphire and Pearl. The Pearl do not change their coat colour at all, they remain in their white coat colour for life.

WW are different from Campbells, their eyes are bigger, fur is thicker, body is more bullet shape and their ears are less conspicious. It is easy to see the difference if a Campbell and WW were side by side.

WWs are nicer to handle for they have better temperments than Campbells. WW rarely change into their winter coats in captivity, so do not force your hamster to starve and stay in a cold room... this depends on the hamster whether it wants to change or not.

WW are almost similar with Campbells when it comes to pairs and colonies. Always remember, it doesn't necessary mean we should keep them in breeding pairs or male and female colonies. A single sex group is good enough for dwarf hamsters.

WW are known to fight among themselves out of the blue. Many do not understand that WW are territorial dwarfs, they can tolerate siblings or with other WW when introduced at a young age but there would always be a day where they would start fighting. Have spare cages at hand to separate fighting hamsters if you have a pair or a small colony. The best is keeping one. Do not worry, hamsters do not die from loneliness.

Roborovski Hamster (Phodopus roborovskii)
Robos are the smallest species of hamster. Adult Robos are only 2 inches in lenght. Unlike the other dwarfs, Robos do not have a dorsal stripe and they have slightly longer legs. Easy to identify from the size and also its sandy colour and white belly.

Yes, the smallest and also the fastest, this species is very well known for being very fast and active. So they are not very handle friendly since they are likely to jump or run off your palm. Many are really attracted by the facial markings, they appear to have "eyebrows".

Robos enjoy sand baths and a wheel. Due to their small size, one would need to purchase a glass/plastic tank to house them or purchase cages with small bars like the Habitrail Mini...

Robos do very well in little groups. They are the most sociable of all dwarf species and it is very entertaining to watch a small group of robos playing and eating in a tank.

Robos are not a hamster that is suitable for the beginner keeper as it could either be frustrating to have hamsters that run very fast or just unable to handle properly.

Chinese Hamster (Cricetulus griseus)
The Chinese hamster is known for their mousy looks. Yes, they were discovered in China long ago. Many people would say Chinese hamsters are hard to breed in captivity and are difficult to raise. Fighting problems occur so it is best to house them seperately. The Chinese hamster is also referred to as a "mouse-like" hamster because of its short nose, thin body, stocky legs and longer tail.

They do make great pets if they are bred by a proper breeder and have been handled often when young.

This species of hamster in Malaysia is very rare. The last known shop to have sold them were Pets Wonderland at Mid Valley years ago.

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VERY IMPORTANT!!!!

- Most hamsters do very well alone. Roborovski hamsters can be kept in small groups and best if single sexed but Syrians, Campbells, Winter Whites and Chinese hamsters are best kept on their own. They are always happier that way.

- Never breed hamsters if you do not have the space. Hamsters can reproduce every 20 days or so.

- Hamster fights are never fun to watch.

- Always remember to have food and water available. Never give too much fresh foods as it can give diarrhea to some hamsters, especially pet shop hamsters that have never eaten any veggie before.

- The bigger the cage or tank, the more comfortable for the hamster.

- Syrians need wheels that are about 8 inches in diameter. Wodent Wheels, Sanko Wheels or Silent Spinners have 8 inch wheels.

- NEVER keep different species in 1 cage or tank together... BIG big trouble there, may have some injuries, deaths... and possibility of mixbreeding Campbells with WW... bad idea.

- Hamsters do not have human emotion, they do not feel Love or have emotional feelings like humans. So there really is no reason to breed or keep them in a male and female pair unless you have a purpose as a true hamster breeder.
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DIET:
Hamsters should have a good quality staple diet that is available for them throughout the day. Grains are important for hamsters to gain protein, minerals and vitamins as well as the good fat that the body needs to stay healthy. The carbohydrates and natural sugars from grains helps in maintaining your hamster's energy and alertness throughout the day. Wrong or unhealthy diets could cause hamsters to gain weight, show no interest in using it's running wheel and does little throughout the day. Here is a guide on how to feed your hamster healthily.

Try not to go for cheap foods that you see available in the market. Habitrail, Delikate, LM Farms.... all these have little nutritional value because they are loaded with sunflower seeds and dried corn. High in fat and phosphorus. Delikate and Habitrail staple food includes alot of alfalfa pellets (the greenish brown pieces) which hamsters do not like to eat at all and you may end up throwing it away. Choose high quality brands like:

Vitakraft Nature Dinner for Hamsters
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• Contains nature's best raw materials.
• This scientifically developed mix is healthy, balanced and of premium quality.
• The Natural Variety-Mix contains a wide range of natural ingredients and provides a varied diet.
• Specially enriched with pumpkin seeds, millet-spray and spelt.

Vitakraft Emotion Sensitive Hamster
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• Healthy, premium quality food for a balanced diet.
• Uses only natural ingredients.
• With calming chamomile for alleviating stress-related digestive problems and rounded wheat grain to protect sensitive cheeks pouches.
• Scientifically developed.

Vitakraft Life Sunshine Food for Hamsters
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LIFE SUNSHINE - the healthy, crunchy complete mixture. With the natural healing power of rose petals and packed full of vegetable protein (soy and bean flakes)
Packed full of energy, great nutty taste. Contains no white sugar.

Vitakraft Life Wellness Food for Hamsters
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LIFE WELLNESS - the healthy, premium quality complete mixture. With beetroot pockets (containing vital trace elements), an extra portion of vegetable protein (from dried vegetable flakes), and a wealth of vitamins and minerals (including parsley).
Omega 3 Beauty Complex - for healthy, shiny fur.

Vitakraft Life Power Hamsters
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LIFE POWER - the tasty and healthy complete mixture. With naturally vitamin-rich dates and added high quality protein. With high-energy peanuts and pumpkin seeds for a great nutty flavour.
VitaGerm® - cold pressed wheat germ with approximately 70 nutrients and active agents.

Harry Hamster - it has quite alot of coloured pellets but quite nutritious and my hamsters eat everything.
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Fresh food
Hamster needs alot of fresh food daily, but always remember you need to feed in a balance ratio. Offer 50% vegetable and 50% fruits, leaf and non leaf, sweet and non sweet, feed at least 8 - 12 veriaty per week.

Fruits: (Make sure all the seeds that are not edible are removed, grape seeds too)
Apple, Blueberries, Cherries, Cranberries, Dragon Fruit, Grapes, Honey Dew, Kiwi, Mango, Papaya, Peach, Pear, Plum, Rambutan, Star Fruit, Sun Melon, Strawberries, Watermelon.

Try not to offer too much sourish fruits like pineapple, orange and mango.

Veggies:
All vegetables.

Cabbage and Onion is NONO
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Treats:

Vitakraft Bisquiti 3-Mix Hamsters
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A nutritious titbit made of eggs and flour, with wholesome seed.

Vitakraft Muffins Nuts Hamster
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A light snack for between meals, made of eggs and flour with delicious nuts.

Vitakraft Donuts and Peas Hamsters
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A light titbit for between meals, made of eggs and flourand succulent peas.

Vitakraft Praline Yogurt / Dandelion for Hamsters
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Healthy and delicious treats for your hamsters. Contains yogurt, dandelion and packed with Vitamins A, D3 & E.

Vitakraft Praline Yogurt / Aloe Vera
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Healthy and delicious treats for your hamsters. Contains yogurt, aloe vera and packed with Vitamins A, D3 & E.

Vitakraft Praline Yogurt / Cranberry
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Healthy and delicious treats for your hamsters. Contains yogurt, cranberry and packed with Vitamins A, D3 & E.

Mealworms
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Mealworms is a good source of protein for your hamster. They can also eat live mealworms but don't give him more than he can eat at once as they hatch into beetles after a few days. Its best to give live mealworms as they are fresh but canned or freeze-dried mealworms are also acceptable. As long as they are processed for hamsters.

Other treats such as crickets & grasshoppers can also be given.

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Bathing a Hamster
By Tammo ~ quote from Hamsterific.com

Bathing removes natural and essential oils from the hamster’s coat, which can cause the hamster to catch a chill and die.

Bathing should only be done in exceptional circumstances, like if your hamster has paint, varnish or anything toxic on its coat that may harm it if it licks itself or ingests it. The hamster will clean itself if it is dirty and the substance is not toxic. Chinchilla sand will keep the coat clean and grease free. Normally there should be no need to bathe your hamster with water at all during the course of its life.

If your hamster does get toxic or harmful substances on its coat, then you must bathe it unless you are able to cut it out of the coat, e.g. if there is gum or something sticky, that can usually be cut out of the coat.

The best way to bath a hamster is this:

1. Get a bowl containing 2 inches of warm water. Test the temperature with your elbow to make sure it is not too hot or too cold.
2. Wet the hamster and gently rub it into the dirty area to cleanse it. Take extreme care not to let any water get near the nose, mouth, ears or eyes.
3. If your hamster has something particularly sticky that’s can’t be cut out in its fur, then you can use shampoo, but it must be baby shampoo. Again, make sure not to get it near the hamster’s face.
4. Carefully rinse out the shampoo, and place the hamster on a towel. Dry very carefully; be careful of the hamster’s legs.
5 .Then, get a hairdryer and put it on its lowest setting. Hold it very far from the hamster and always keep your hand between the dryer and the hamster to avoid burning the skin. ** Since we are in Malaysia, I would recommended to put them in sand bath, then put the carrier to the area with abit sun light. but NOT DIRECT sunlight.
6. Wash your hamster on a warm day if possible to lessen chances of getting a chill. ** noon 12pm - 3pm
7. Make sure the fur is completely dry before returning the hamster to its cage or the shavings will stick to the damp fur.

This is not a safe way to bathe a hamster. There are no safe ways to do it. So please do not wash your hamster if it smells or looks a bit grubby.

Only if there is something toxic on the fur that cannot be cut off. This method carries the same risks as all others but this is the best way if you absolutely have to do it.

If your hamster smells bad, it may be sick and should be brought to the vet as soon as possible. To keep your hamster clean and healthy, make sure its living conditions are cleaned out regularly.
Useful links (credit to Acey)The Hamster Name Generator (thanks to Gazard7)

Lowyat.net Siggy (free to use, a big thank you to Hao tongue.gif ):
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How to potty train my hamster?

First of all to make things clear, its only possible to train your hamster to pee in the toilet. You CANNOT train them to poop in the toilet. Because hamsters will eat their own poop sometimes. Yes you may think its disgusting but there are two types of hamster poop. One is the excrement which contain nothing in it just poop & the other kind that they usually eat are poop that contain nutrients that was not fully digested. Hamster digestive system is not the same as human thats why they will need to eat their poop back because it contains some vitamins/nutrients are not absorbed at the first time.


1) Purchase a litter box designed for hamsters or use a small plastic box that the hamster can jump into. Specially designed litter boxes for hamsters have one corner higher than the others to prevent hamster urine from spraying outside of the cage. Most boxes are designed to be attached to the corner of a cage. A few boxes have covers and entrances.

2) Watch your hamster at night and observe which corner of the cage it normally go to pee. Place the litter box in that corner.

3) Fill the litter box one-third full with a specially made litter for hamsters. This litter can be found at pet stores.

4) Pick up hamster urine-soaked bedding and place it in the litter box. If u found fresh hamster urine try to absorb it with tissue paper & put that tissue paper into the hamster toilet. Just put the soaked/wet part in & not the whole tissue paper.

5) Keep adding fresh urine-soaked bedding until the hamster begins to use the toilet. Relax the process usually takes time, it dosent happen overnight.

6) Keep the toilet clean and filled with fresh litter once a week once the hamster is trained on its use.

Reference: http://www.ehow.com/how_2074136_potty-train-hamster.html

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It is often found that many people do not possess a strong reading and researching habit. Although there are often long and informative posts on the first page, newbies do not seem to read them and have to be reminded frequently to do so.

Here I have made some simple and short notes. I sincerely hope that newbies will take at least 5 minutes to read them.

Housing & Setup:

Winter Whites, Russian Campbell Dwarf Hamsters, Roborovskis and Chinese Dwarfs can be housed in the below cages as well as a 1.5ft Plastic Guppy tank.
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Syrian Hamsters need to be housed as below, with either an 8 inch Wodent Wheel or a 21cm Sanko Silent Wheel:
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Items needed:
- A right size of tank or cage.
- A wheel is MANDATORY.
- A water bottle
- A food dish/bowl
- A toilet (if your hamster is toilet trained, Syrians are easy to toilet train)
- Bedding: Breeder Celect, Corn Cob, Wood Shavings (no pine, no cedar)

Diet & Supplement:

Main Diet:
- Vitakraft Premium High Range Hamster
- Nutri-Smoothie (a Balanced Diet of fresh)
- Oxbow Hay Cake
- LC-Vit Syrup (Multi-Vitamin)
- Calci-Aid (for growing pups and nursing mothers)
- Organic Vegetarian Powder

Others:
- Rolled Oat
- Millets
- Sesame Seed
- Wheat Germ
- Buckwheat
- Dahl
- Pumpkim Seed
- Toufu
- Almond Seed

Note: Ratio of mixing Prestige Hamster: Britter Bunny; 1 bag(800gm) : ¼ bag(250gm)

BIG NO-NO food!!
- Chocolate
- Onion
- Garlic
- Cabbage
- Orange
- Pineapple
- Grapes
- Coffee
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My hamster gave birth!! What to do now???
Is my hamster male or female??

Please refer to this thread >>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/477850

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Approved treats for hamster:

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Note: Please give in small amount. Do not give too much because they will horde it & the food will start to turn bad.

Vitamins:
Only small amounts of vitamins are required; but they are essential to your hamster's good health. Lack of vitamins can create several health problems. Refer to the table below.

Note: You can buy vitamin for your hamster at pet shop. They come in a small bottle & all you need to do is add few drops into your hamster water bottle depending on the water volume. Please remember to change your hamster water & clean the bottle after 3days or else fungus/bacteria will start to grow in the bottle.
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References:
http://www.hamsterific.com/Nutrition.cfm
http://www.hamsterific.com/hamsteruniversity/foodlist.html

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Frequently asked questions (FAQ):
Q: My hamster is toilet trained but why he always sleep in the toilet? rclxub.gif
A: Well its normal. There are many reason for it, your hamster might prefer the toilet more than the bedding. Or the temp might be warm & the toilet is more cooling than the usual place he sleeps. Or maybe he/she just like to sleep in there.

Do take note hamster do not think like how human thinks so if he/she knows that is a toilet that dosent mean he/she cant sleep in there. but we human were taught from young that we shouldnt sleep in the toilet. hamster dosent understand english so they wouldnt understand even if were are trying to teach them. You can discourage your hamster though, when u found out he/she is sleeping in the toilet you can gently blow & wake him up. keep blowing till he runs to his house to continue his sleep. Try to do that after he is potty trained around 1month later because it might affect the potty training process, you do not want your hamster to stop peeing in the toilet right after he just learned to use it.

Q: Why my hamster like to eat in his toilet?
A: Its normal. As i said before they knows its a toilet but they dont know why cant they eat in there. Its just the way they are, nothing can be done. All u can do is recycle the food back into his food bowl if its good & throw the food if its soaked in urine. If your toilet is big enough some hamster are smart, 1 conner they will use to store their food & the other conner they will use to pee.

Q: Can i keep my hamster in pairs?
A: Please read the 1st post.
Q: But last time my uncle keep two syrian hamster in pairs wor...they never fight also..
A: He was lucky they didnt fight. Please do not repeat what he did or u will end up killing your hamster & yes if that happens then its your fault. Please do not repeat what this guy did >>> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1972354

Q: Why my hamster keeps drinking lots of water & peeing a lot lately?
A: 1) Maybe its just too hot so its too thirsty or dehydrated.
2) Urinary tract infections: these are more common in female than male hamsters, but males can get them too. you might also notice a bit of blood in the urine. to treat this, you'll need to make an appt. with a rodent-experienced vet who'll give you hamster-safe antibiotics such as Batril, or Albon. the infection should clear up in a week or so.
3) Diabetes, an increasingly common disease in dwarf hamsters. it's diagnosed through a urine test, which can be done either by your vet or yourself at home, using urine test strips such as Bayer Diastix.

If you hamster tests positive for diabetes, you'll immediately need to make adjustments in his diet. find a sugar-free seedmix such as Harry Hamster or Small World. you'll need to remove the corn and peas from the seedmix. and also remove any fruit from the diet as well as any treats that include sugar in the ingredients.
Your vet may be able to help you treat your diabetic hamster using a med called 'Glipizide' which has successfully treated diabetic guinea pigs as well. but you need to have a vet experienced with hamsters who will know how to weigh your hamster and come up with a Glipizide dosing based on the hamster's weight.

Q: How can I tell if my hamster is pregnant?
A: It is very difficult to tell. She will only look more fat than usual about 2 days before giving birth. She may be building a nest and will usually be more active than usual. Dwarves are pregnant for around 19-21 days (Syrians only 16 days) so the best thing to do is to wait and see! When she does give birth, consult the breeding pages of hamsterific, and remember not to touch the babies.

Q: How long do hamsters live?
A: Syrian's (teddybear hamster) usually live about three years.The smaller varieties, like the Siberian and Campbell's, not quite as long, usually around two years. The Roborovski is the dwarf hamster exception, and has been raised to three years in captivity.

Q: My hamster has escaped! How can I find it?
A: Hamsters can be regular little escape artists, but don't fret, hamsterama has the perfect solution. The first thing you should do is close all the doors, and get any other animals such as cats or dogs out of the house if possible. Put piles of your hamsters usual food mix in the corner of each room. Observe which pile of food gets eaten to determine which room your hamster is in. Once you know which room he is in, you can trap him. Take a bucket and put some bedding and some strong smelling food (such as cheese) inside. Then, using books, build steps up to the top of the bucket. The hamster should clamber up to the top, smell the delicious food and fall in, but not be able to get out!

Q: How often should I clean the cage?
A: The wet/soiled areas should be scooped out daily. The acessories should be cleaned at least once a month or whenever they get dirty. The cage should be cleaned once a week with soap and water. However if you have a potty or something similiar that hamster urinates in the bedding can be dumped out an replaced weekly while the cage can be washed and dried once a month but that's only if the hamster hasn't urinated anywhere else.

Q: Why does my hamster sleep through the day?
A: Hamsters are crepuscular, which means they like to sleep during the day and party all night long. If you don't believe me try putting your hamster's cage in your bedroom one night and see how much sleep you get. This doesn't mean you'll never see them. If you give your hamsters a treat when you get home they'll come to expect it and be waiting for you!

Q: Do hamsters bite?
A: Yes; but normally not without just cause, or maybe if they think you are a tasty sunflower seed.

Q: My hamster's wheel is squeeking and it drives me nuts! Is there anything I can do?
Try using a very small amount of petroleum jelly (Vaseline). It stops the squeaks and is not toxic unlike many other lubes like WD-40. Personally i would recommend you to get a sanko silent wheel. Build quality is great & its really silent compare to those other cheap wheels.


References:
http://www.hamsterhouse.com/hamstergalaxy/health.html
http://www.essortment.com/pet-hamsters-car...tion-22796.html
http://www.hamsterific.com/faq.cfm

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Have you ever wonder how your hamster skull/jaw looks like?

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Reference: http://www.hamsterific.com/faq.cfm

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Recommended vets (this is not the only good vets, there might be other good vets out there too):

Dr. Yeoh
Yeoh Veterinary Clinic & Surgery
126 Jalan SS 24/2, 47301 Petaling Jaya 03-7804 8684 ‎


hands and paws
C-G-17, Ground Floor, Blok C,
Jln Pju 1/45,
Aman Suria,
47301 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor Tel: 03-7804 6539


Dr Vellayan
10, Jalan L2, Phase 6A
Taman Melawati
53100 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 013-6246 918
Tel/Fax: 03-4108 5530


searching for a vet near your area? Please refer to this thread http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/264418 (some of them might not treat hamsters u will need to check with them first)

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Hamster pictures & tank setup

Original chubby hamster thread starter was hao (If you wish to read the old threads please click 'Find member's topics' on their profile).

continued by crazymouse_yyh & then by nezumitaro

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Due to the limit lyn set, for 1 post there is a max limit of number of pictures i can post. So those pictures that i cannot post over here i will post the link instead. You can click that link to view more pictures
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post Aug 18 2011, 11:26 PM

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thank you aswen smile.gif
and congrats to v14 <3
hope we get more members to learn more about our chubby small animal

btw.. aswen i did as you said..
and put the bottle facing the wall..
now i discover that.. my hamster can be ninja hamster d >.<
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 18 2011, 11:26 PM)
thank you aswen smile.gif
and congrats to v14 <3
hope we get more members to learn more about our chubby small animal

btw.. aswen i did as you said..
and put the bottle facing the wall..
now i discover that.. my hamster can be ninja hamster d >.<
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can or cant? hmm.gif

hehehe...feel free to let me know any info u guys want to add into this new thread. i reserved two post already. if u want to add some of your hamster pictures or tank setup let me know, i can add up there to make this thread more interesting brows.gif

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can be ninja hamster

you know what he did?
like monkey bar? the way you move the hands?
like tip toe but with the upper lips
he did that till he reach the side of the tank and kaboom he's out
hamlet hamlet

ooo and i feed him carrot d...
he love it so much
snatched from me
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owh i would love to show ppl my tank set up
but i think after i get my 2ft tank
saw a toy i wanna buy for hamlet
but it was rm 20+ to RM 30 :'(
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as u guys knw i just lost my baby hamster...just posted this earlier at v13 last page

guys im so freaking pissed...b4 i went to nap i see the baby hammy n his mom both sleep just fine together...then 1 hour after taking a nap i hear the baby screaming..when wake up to see the mom ate the 2 weeks old baby..i dont get it why would she eat him?his kinda full grown full fur around the body and eye's open already...i hear the mom bite him till can hear da bone...seriously pissed off at the mom rite now...for no reason she killed the baby! wtf weh.... feel like cursing weh %$#@$%#^&&*()!!!!!!!!!!
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aswen i think the pictures need to resize cause its erm
see the left right scroller? usually cannot move one

@markjohn: my deepest condolences.. so sorry.. i do not have much knowledge regarding breeding hamsters since i have never intended to breed any of my hamsters.. now or even near future.. so i havent read up on them
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 19 2011, 01:00 AM)
aswen i think the pictures need to resize cause its erm
see the left right scroller? usually cannot move one

@markjohn: my deepest condolences.. so sorry.. i do not have much knowledge regarding breeding hamsters since i have never intended to breed any of my hamsters.. now or even near future.. so i havent read up on them
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& mark...sorry to hear that...i have no idea why she would do that sad.gif
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thats the thing...i also pelik weh...
if she eat the baby when its red type still no fur n all understandable..
but this is like killing..haizzz...anyway im gonna stick with this 2 atm..
not ganna mate d for now...huhuhu
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hey all, i'm back. how to know if my hamster's pregnant?
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mine is breeding! my first ever hamster babies! biggrin.gif
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Already born dude???
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post Aug 19 2011, 06:42 PM

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yay v14!! thanks inferno
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my new tank setup =)

will take out the tunnel to give more space...just temporary playground for him...hehe

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Wohoo.. V14.. reporting in.. Thanks inferno 4 the effort.. =)
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@mark: dont use flash when taking picture.. not good for their eyes
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i know just that once coz kinda dark n not clear if no flash...
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My male hamster chip , been humping , circle , hump , circle , hump for the past 30 minutes non stop with my female ww hamster , white.
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Aug 19 2011, 12:40 AM)
as u guys knw i just lost my baby hamster...just posted this earlier at v13 last page

guys im so freaking pissed...b4 i went to nap i see the baby hammy n his mom both sleep just fine together...then 1 hour after taking a nap i hear the baby screaming..when wake up to see the mom ate the 2 weeks old baby..i dont get it why would she eat him?his kinda full grown full fur around the body and eye's open already...i hear the mom bite him till can hear da bone...seriously pissed off at the mom rite now...for no reason she killed the baby! wtf weh.... feel like cursing weh %$#@$%#^&&*()!!!!!!!!!!
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hi everyone, im new (obviously) biggrin.gif

err, did you touched her babies before? having reared hamsters since i was 5 thought me that if you touch the baby then the mother will most probably eat it. i dont know why but i think its because unfamiliar scent thats not hers on her baby so she thought thats not her baby. therefore, ngap ngap.

im so sorry but dont blame the mummy. i usually put the mummys cage in the corner or simply cover it with kain so that she will feel that her babies are safe. until the babies open their eyes and can eat by themselves.
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QUOTE(mima @ Aug 21 2011, 02:25 AM)
hi  everyone, im new (obviously) biggrin.gif

err, did you touched her babies before? having reared hamsters since i was 5 thought me that if you touch the baby then the mother will most probably eat it. i dont know why but i think its because unfamiliar scent thats not hers on her baby so she thought thats not her baby. therefore, ngap ngap.

im so sorry but dont blame the mummy. i usually put the mummys cage in the corner or simply cover it with kain so that she will feel that her babies are safe. until the babies open their eyes and can eat by themselves.
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nvr touch them but i read somewhere that u could at least touch them n change the bedding when they r 2 weeks old...
besides the mom ate him when i was asleep....and b4 i went and took a nap i see both of them sleeping together...
the weird thing is the baby is full of fur d and eye open...its like he can live without the mom d...
its like all a sudden she attack...food wise i give enough food n water...so im clueless why she killed the baby...
and yea the baby sometimes go to the food bowl and eats by himself...not blaming but ermmm kinda pissed for awhile...
was really hoping things would be fine coz its my 1st time having a baby hammie...

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QUOTE(markjohn @ Aug 21 2011, 12:53 PM)
nvr touch them but i read somewhere that u could at least touch them n change the bedding when they r 2 weeks old...
besides the mom ate him when i was asleep....and b4 i went and took a nap i see both of them sleeping together...
the weird thing is the baby is full of fur d and eye open...its like he can live without the mom d...
its like all a sudden she attack...food wise i give enough food n water...so im clueless why she killed the baby...
and yea the baby sometimes go to the food bowl and eats by himself...not blaming but ermmm kinda pissed for awhile...
was really hoping things would be fine coz its my 1st time having a baby hammie...
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i know how you feel because last time mine was also like that. and all i ever did was put sengkuang in the cage. i was only 9 then and saw the mummy munching on all the babies, tinggal the usus part only (usus i think) unsure.gif thats something no one wants to experience.

could be she woke up and was like, whos this? shocking.gif forgot that she gave birth, hehe.

im so sorry for the baby. well, i hope you will get babies again soon biggrin.gif and fat fat ones thumbup.gif


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yea i like chubby2 ones biggrin.gif cute and adorable!
feel like *snuggle snuggle snnugle* them...lolz
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no problem guys. i m still editing the first page. added few info & will add more. also there will be more useful info coming soon (special thanks to *dReaM FaNtaSy*).

i will start uploading some pictures with spoilers if i got free time in the first page, so if u want your hamster pictures to be in the first page please take nice nice pictures of your hamster & post it in here. i will copy paste later into the first page.

@mark, i will put your tank setup picture in the first page too if u got your hamster picture feel free to post it also.

edit: check out the first page, feel free to post any questions & answers if you guys have any. i will add them up into the first page if i have the time. icon_rolleyes.gif

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hahaha ok2 will post my hamster pic if its clear...lolz...
ask others to post their hammy pic as well =P
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i lost my male agouti WW...this is the fourth time he escape from his cage...for the last 3 times, i found him under my bed...but this time i think he lost forever... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif
have been searching for him since 7am...already search everywhere in the house...still cant find him...just hoping he will return when hes hungry... cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif


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@noruddin, how did he escape? aren't u using tank cage?how can WW escape?
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i separate him from the mother and the babies...i put him into smaller tank...im not really sure how he escape from the tank...i think he climb up his house and jump to the tank edge...but i never saw him jump...never once...

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winter white are able to jump quite high. highest jumper is robo la....& syrian is the lowest hahaha coz they are heavy.

anyway try buying some fresh sunflower seed, put it in a container & start blowing at every possible conner. maybe he your hamster smells it he will come out for it. keep your doors close hopefully your hamster havent escape from your house yet.
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i just got back from work at 7am...when im home my front door is already open...

usually when i got back from work, i will feed my cat(lives outside the house)...but after i pour friskies into the bowl, my cat did not eat it while usually she will eat it all...hmmm i got a really bad feelings about it... cry.gif cry.gif hopefully my hamster did not went outside the house...
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wow ur WW look so healthy. mine the white colour have black spots =(

btw izit normal for them to drink a lot of water? a lot as in the water bottle is finished within 2 days by only 3 of them
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Aug 22 2011, 12:52 PM)
wow ur WW look so healthy. mine the white colour have black spots =(

btw izit normal for them to drink a lot of water? a lot as in the water bottle is finished within 2 days by only 3 of them
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i added your question & the answer into the first page already under 'common questions'. probably normal since you are sharing 1 bottle with 3 hamsters. but do check for other symptoms if u can find out which hamster is the 1 who drinks the most.

@noruddin...thanks..i added the pictures into the first page already smile.gif

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i always check on them. yup only one that constantly drinking water actually. but no blood or anything.
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Aug 22 2011, 05:01 PM)
i always check on them. yup only one that constantly drinking water actually. but no blood or anything.
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nope...he is that way since birth. now about 6 weeks old. Really non stop drinking, day and night, if I heard hamster drinking water confirm its him. normally how much vet will charge?

btw they really scream a lot, izit normal? i just blow at them from the top of the cage and they can scream non stop for few min lol. first time having WW btw. I do have a few robo and totally no prob with them
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Aug 22 2011, 06:42 PM)
nope...he is that way since birth. now about 6 weeks old. Really non stop drinking, day and night, if I heard hamster drinking water confirm its him. normally how much vet will charge?

btw they really scream a lot, izit normal? i just blow at them from the top of the cage and they can scream non stop for few min lol. first time having WW btw. I do have a few robo and totally no prob with them
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based on my experience...all my WW dosnt like when i blow to them...but they never scream...just wavining their arms(or front legs) giving sign they dont like it...but for your case, i think they are still babies or still new with u, so they are easier getting scared...

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lyn got set for each post there is a max number of pictures that can be posted. so that post pictures limit is maxed out already but no worries...i put the link instead. so those who want to view more pictures can just click the link smile.gif

other members feel free to upload your hammy pictures too if u want. i will add it in the first page. if many shared their pictures i will give for each member 2-3 picture preview & the rest pictures i will paste the link below the pictures. Hehehe my hamster picture i will upload maybe some other time...lazy find the digital camera laugh.gif
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noruddin, what are those tissue paper for? and I heard its not good putting toilet roll inside wor.

And ar, I have no idea why, the wood bedding always get wet one, I'm not sure izit they playing with the water or they just pee so much sad.gif have to keep changing cause wet wood very smelly
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QUOTE(Candlenie @ Aug 23 2011, 02:11 AM)
noruddin, what are those tissue paper for? and I heard its not good putting toilet roll inside wor.

And ar, I have no idea why, the wood bedding always get wet one, I'm not sure izit they playing with the water or they just pee so much sad.gif have to keep changing cause wet wood very smelly
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i put shreaded tissue into the tank...they will collect the tissue and put it into their house..they like their house filled with something soft...
owhh, i didnt know that toilet roll not good for them...but so far, theres no problem with my hammies due to toilet roll...can u google it for me what the effects on hammies...if really not good for them ill remove it right away...huhu

im sure your bedding is wet because your hammies pee so much... laugh.gif u said that your hammies drink a lot...surely they will pee a lot too...haha laugh.gif
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try to toilet train your hamster. then all u need to do is change the toilet sand laugh.gif

sure ah tissue paper is not good? hmm.gif coz what i know is the cotton type is not good...tissue is ok...usually hamster will take that tissue paper into their sleeping place coz tissue paper got less smell compare to bedding plus its soft. anyway do share the link on tissue paper is not good for hamster...would be interested to read on that... biggrin.gif
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yes only cotton is not good

using tissue paper is way way better than using wood shavings because wood shavings cannot be digested while tissue paper can degrade.

since hamster hoard their bedding, if cannot digest will cause complications if ingested too much
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no no..tissue is ok. but i have a friend tell me the toilet roll, brown colour one not good cause they have some chemical inside i think.

Not easy to potty train them sad.gif I cant spot whr they pee/when they pee/how they pee =="
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as far as i know...the toilet roll(brown one) is made of recycle paper only...nothing added...
just put the toilet inside their cage and see if they pee@poo in there...

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i dont know about your hamster but mine after he wakes up sure he will go pee. he will go to his toilet & wait a while in there (he is peeing). after that then he will start eating or do whatever he wants.

if your hamster dont pee right after they woke up then maybe u can try smelling your cage bedding. where the place it stinks the most should be the area where they pee. maybe try putting less bedding next time so that it will be more easier to spot if its wet or not.
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its not that difficult to toilet train a hamster
toilet training a hamster is easier than toilet training a dog
reason being: hamsters are clean animals
same like cats.. cats are very clean thats why they keep grooming themselves and burry their poo
hamster also clean animal

most hamster use a corner to pee
check your cage at all the edges to check if there is any pee
if not.. another area they might like to pee at is like dark ares..
cause they want privacy

yeah and if all those areas also dont have
then you have to start sniffing..
or throw all the bedding away and just see where it stains..
cause hamster urine very acidic.. will stain the plastic

once you found the spot
put a toilet there (can buy from pet shop)
and put some of the bedding that they pee on inside the toilet
hamsters should know that is their toilet after that smile.gif
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those subang people if u are searching for superworm, a fish shop at mentari got smile.gif just bought normal mealworm today...will try superworm next biggrin.gif

that shop also sells hamsters & hedgehog.
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want to ask..

just now petshop give me this 1 pack of hay for free.. it smell like tea or sun flower drink... i was wondering, since the hay roots look sharp and hard.. is it ok for hamster? or that one is for rabbit?

p/s there's no brand on it, it was a repack...

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want to ask..

just now petshop give me this 1 pack of hay for free.. it smell like tea or sun flower drink... i was wondering, since the hay roots look sharp and hard.. is it ok for hamster? or that one is for rabbit?

p/s there's no brand on it, it was a repack...
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usually hay is for guinea pig or rabbit...not advisable to use hay as bedding for hamster coz if its sharp & when the hamster carry it around in his pouch there might be chance of him poking his pouch.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Aug 25 2011, 07:49 AM)
usually hay is for guinea pig or rabbit...not advisable to use hay as bedding for hamster coz if its sharp & when the hamster carry it around in his pouch there might be chance of him poking his pouch.
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Added on August 25, 2011, 10:11 pmim confuse with wood shaving bedding... does it come from different type of wood? cos it say no pine... but recon aspen.. aspen come from what wood then? they look all similar....

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i plan to buy a hamster as my gf bday, but have not much knowledge about it... ard how much for all those thing include cage, bedding and others... 1 hamster or 2 hamster better??....hahaha....

*seeking help...
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Aug 26 2011, 05:16 PM)
i plan to buy a hamster as my gf bday, but have not much knowledge about it... ard how much for all those thing include cage, bedding and others... 1 hamster or 2 hamster better??....hahaha....

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depends on what kinda hamster ur planning to get...if syrian abit expensive coz u need a big wheel 8inch and a 2ft tank coz they r not suitable in a cage..and just get 1 syrian coz they r solitary kinda type hamster so approximately around rm150 below...if winter white i assume below rm100 also can d coz they can stay in a cage made at pet shop d and a smaller wheel around 5-6inch or 4 i think...and do use a suction cup if ur planning to buy a 2ft plastic tank..
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Added on August 25, 2011, 10:11 pmim confuse with wood shaving bedding... does it come from different type of wood? cos it say no pine... but recon aspen.. aspen come from what wood then? they look all similar....
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umm i dont have much knowledge on wood types but pine & aspen is different. depends on the bedding...some aspen are digestible so even if the hamster accidentally ate it its still safe plus they are soft so its good for the hamster feet or even if he collects it in his pouch. but NEVER buy bedding made from pine or cedar. icon_rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(TechUsb @ Aug 26 2011, 05:16 PM)
i plan to buy a hamster as my gf bday, but have not much knowledge about it... ard how much for all those thing include cage, bedding and others... 1 hamster or 2 hamster better??....hahaha....

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as mark said depends on the type u want to get. for syrian hamster u need a little extra budget. if your budget is not much u can buy a winter white hamster with appropriate cage size.

your gf got keep hamster before? if no then i wouldnt recommend robo since they are quite fast & hard to handle. syrian is bigger in size (thats why u need bigger housing & equipment) but they are easier to handle since they are quite slow. winter white ok too...they are a little bit smaller than syrian...once they are tame it will be great biggrin.gif

Dont forget to read the first page, everything is explained over there & teach your gf how to keep good care for the hamster. most important part is to get good quality food. vitakraft is good...u can get the small packet around rm11 if i m not mistaken. harry hamster is good too but i never see they sell in small packet. bedding around rm10 for small packet (never buy pine or cedar), food bowl around rm10, bottle water around rm12. wheel depends on what type u want, there is cheapo wheel but its quite noisy if the hamster use it in the room. 6" sanko wheel u can get around rm30... & for the housing depends on the brand & size....of course the price i state can be different. everything depends on the brand, quality & place u buy it smile.gif

p/s: i m selling my cage & bedding (unopen packet) but since u want to give her as birthday present i dont think its good to give her used set right laugh.gif

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so this brand i saw in petshop.. it is call APPLE.. smell like ikea furniture.. so i guess that's pine right.. i didn't see on the pack what type it is...

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thanks markjohn and infernoaswen, where u guys stay, maybe we can meet up and u bring me to buy all those thing and can explain more to us, if u dont mind....hahhaa...
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so this brand i saw in petshop.. it is call APPLE.. smell like ikea furniture.. so i guess that's pine right.. i didn't see on the pack what type it is...
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the reason why we dont get ceder or pine is because they are very toxic to hamsters. they produce toxic that is bad for the hamster respiratory system & will react with the hamster pee which is very acidic. the way they are processed is also bad...they undergo so many types of chemical process...anyway the best is aspen but the problem is its very very hard to find over here. plus it will be quite expensive too.

i think the 1 u saw is chipsi bedding that has apple scent hmm.gif frankly speaking chispi isnt the best bedding too but its quite affordable for people like me (student). chipsi bedding is made from softwood which is from fir & spruce they do produce oils & there is smell from it too (but its way way better than using pine bedding) which isnt that good for hamster respiratory. but its said to be safe for hamster & its quite soft too. i been using that bedding & so far its ok for my hamster. same goes for delikate brand too as they are made from softwood too. but the good thing about delikate is they do not have strong smell compare to chipsi which i assume is good for hamster. any scented bedding is bad for hamster respiratory. if u want to buy bedding get natural scent, avoid those apple scent, lime, lemon etc... icon_rolleyes.gif

& of course the best brand will be breeder's celect or healthy pet. corn cob type of bedding is also very good but its hard to find & quite expensive. but if u can afford it then why not...its good to give your hamster the best stuff u can provide. oh btw shredded paper is also good for hamster as bedding but its too expensive. (u cant use newspaper as they have ink on it & it might be harmful for your hamster).

QUOTE(TechUsb @ Aug 26 2011, 11:31 PM)
thanks markjohn and infernoaswen, where u guys stay, maybe we can meet up and u bring me to buy all those thing and can explain more to us, if u dont mind....hahhaa...
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ok thanks you  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on August 25, 2011, 10:11 pmim confuse with wood shaving bedding... does it come from different type of wood? cos it say no pine... but recon aspen.. aspen come from what wood then? they look all similar....
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aspen and pine does come from different type of wood (tree)
pine are from softwood while aspen is from hardwood
actually all softwood are bad for hamsters.. cause all of them will produce toxic
however, pine and cedar produces the most toxic and it is extremely bad for them.
they may look similiar so do read the packaging.. if it doesnt say anything then don't buy it
(you wouldnt buy some food stuff that doesnt have ingredient list would you?)

QUOTE(TechUsb @ Aug 26 2011, 05:16 PM)
i plan to buy a hamster as my gf bday, but have not much knowledge about it... ard how much for all those thing include cage, bedding and others... 1 hamster or 2 hamster better??....hahaha....

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most of the time, hamsters do well alone.
syrian is solitary
winter white and russian campbells may do in pair but they are not exactly very social animals
robos are social animals, can do well in groups

normally, a tank is recommended because it is easier to clean, its cheaper, you can buy your own accessories which you feel is best for your hamsters, and most importantly, you can find the right size for your hamsters
most cages are too small for syrians
the downside of tanks is that there isnt much room for air ventilation, so if your hamsters does not attempt to escape (my hamlet does) the you can dont cover the top
if your hamster attempts to escape, go buy the 1cm X 1cm mesh wire tops from diy shop and diy a cover so your hamsters can stay in while having ventilation

bedding.. if wood shaving, as usual.. no pine no cedar.. best if you can find aspen
i know kaytee has aspen beddings but it is very difficult to find kaytee nowadays
some hamster owners have recommended chipsi and delikate
chipsi bedding, although not pine or cedar, is from softwood.. so still got chemicals just less
(last time chipsi bedding states that theirs is from conifer woods but now just write softwood.. this is dodgy as pine is also from softwood.. we don't know which softwood they use.. so be careful and think properly)
as for delikate.. i read that in some forums, chipsi users have been going to delikate instead when they started writing softwood as the source of their shaving instead of conifers.. some continued and realize the quality dropped so shift to delikate and claims delikate is better
however, delikate does not state what wood it comes from at all... only states all natural bedding..
so kaytee aspen (beware kaytee has pine also.. so find the aspen one not pine one) would be good.. but chipsi and delikate.. you have to decide.. maybe buy both and mix to see which one is better for your hamster

you may also use carefresh or woody pet.
carefresh is rolls of newspaper while woody pet is wood pellets
benefits is very absorbant. no chemicals, no dust
but it is very expensive
dont ask me which i use.. cause i use shreded paper bedding (can digest, no chemicals)

one more thing you should think about is food
the better the food you give your hamster, the more likely it will be healthy and live longer
it is recommended for you to get either vitakraft or harry hamster
last time, prestige hamster nature had been recommended.
from my readings, the quality has dropped
some of the food turned mouldy and all
if you ask me.. alternate between vitakraft and harry hamster
10 days vitakraft.. 10 days harry hamster smile.gif
(beware.. i heard that harry hamster pellet quite big for dwarfs)
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they have given good tips u need to know...i just want to add some tips based on my experienced+knowledge from others...

my tips is how to choose good hamster...by good, i mean the hamster is tame, easy to handle, not easily scared, can get along with others and most important loves to play with u... smile.gif

heres the tips:

IMPORTANT
-choose hamster with perfectly match incisor teeth(front teeth)...
-choose hamster without any signs of abnormalities(skin problems, abnormal movements(like alwas running in circles or running in one direction(clockwise or counterclockwise)), wet fur, etc.)
-dont choose hamster that likes to disturb other hamster...

less important
-its is better to buy/adopt hamster from a home breeder than from the pet shop...usually pet shop dont give enough attentions to the hamster they own because they have too many types of pet to take care of...also, usually the pet shop hamster age is 1 or 2 months plus...its is easier for owner and hamster to bond if hamster is still young(3weeks is the youngest)...
-do not choose hamster that always grooming itself...hamsters groom theirself because of 2 reasons...1st to clean theirself and 2nd to relief stress...there is possibility that the hamster that always grooming itself is easily stressed out...
-choose hamster that not running away or hard to catch with your hands...thats mean that the hamster is easily scared or do not thrust human...it has high possibilities that the hamster will not let u hold them with your hands even u already bond with them...
-do not choose skinny hamsters(if u like chubby2 hamster like me smile.gif )...hamsters are skinny because either they sick, or has small appetite...young fat/chubby hamster will grow even more fater/chubbier smile.gif


add if u got more... smile.gif
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ok..thanks you guys very much...i will make note of it...im going to get one i this few weeks...hehe...juz plan to have someone experience to go with me, so that i can learn more from u guys...hehe... smile.gif
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can anyone tell me why syrian must be place in a tank instead of the normal hamster cages..coz i was telling my aunt since she wants a syrian hamster and i advice her to use the tank instead of the normal hamster cage..i told her the size of the tank is not relevant for a syrian..her excuse was tat she bought a lot of connecting tubes to add to another cage to make it bigger..so i need a solid answer.
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Aug 27 2011, 02:39 PM)
can anyone tell me why syrian must be place in a tank instead of the normal hamster cages..coz i was telling my aunt since she wants a syrian hamster and i advice her to use the tank instead of the normal hamster cage..i told her the size of the tank is not relevant for a syrian..her excuse was tat she bought a lot of connecting tubes to add to another cage to make it bigger..so i need a solid answer.
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as you may see...syrian are big so in short they need a big tank n wider area to roam around simple as that...small cages might stress them out n keep on grooming themself which will cost fur to drop or lose fur frm what i knw..as u knw syrian need a big wheel 8" at least...and that big...i dont knw if an 8" wheel can put at a normal cage coz its pretty big u knw...but if ur aunt already buy all the stuff tubes etc that nothing we can do...

im sure infernoaswen,Dream and norrudin can give u better advice biggrin.gif
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the reason why we dont get ceder or pine is because they are very toxic to hamsters. they produce toxic that is bad for the hamster respiratory system & will react with the hamster pee which is very acidic. the way they are processed is also bad...they undergo so many types of chemical process...anyway the best is aspen but the problem is its very very hard to find over here. plus it will be quite expensive too.

i think the 1 u saw is chipsi bedding that has apple scent  hmm.gif frankly speaking chispi isnt the best bedding too but its quite affordable for people like me (student). chipsi bedding is made from softwood which is from fir & spruce they do produce oils & there is smell from it too (but its way way better than using pine bedding) which isnt that good for hamster respiratory. but its said to be safe for hamster & its quite soft too. i been using that bedding & so far its ok for my hamster. same goes for delikate brand too as they are made from softwood too. but the good thing about delikate is they do not have strong smell compare to chipsi which i assume is good for hamster. any scented bedding is bad for hamster respiratory. if u want to buy bedding get natural scent, avoid those apple scent, lime, lemon etc...  icon_rolleyes.gif

& of course the best brand will be breeder's celect or healthy pet. corn cob type of bedding is also very good but its hard to find & quite expensive. but if u can afford it then why not...its good to give your hamster the best stuff u can provide. oh btw shredded paper is also good for hamster as bedding but its too expensive. (u cant use newspaper as they have ink on it & it might be harmful for your hamster).
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this is the one i currently used... can you tell me what type is this..

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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Aug 27 2011, 02:39 PM)
can anyone tell me why syrian must be place in a tank instead of the normal hamster cages..coz i was telling my aunt since she wants a syrian hamster and i advice her to use the tank instead of the normal hamster cage..i told her the size of the tank is not relevant for a syrian..her excuse was tat she bought a lot of connecting tubes to add to another cage to make it bigger..so i need a solid answer.
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as mark said its not the type that matters...its the size. its very easy to get a 2ft tank rather than finding a 2ft cage. until today i never see a 2ft cage yet unless u plan to get those for guinea pig but wouldnt recommend that coz its short & cover holes are big, the hamster can easily jump out of it & escape. i m using a 8" wheel & the wheel itself is very big (the height) in my tank. if your aunty cage is 2ft then its ok....tubes dosent really give extra space for the hamster but its good to have them as additional...they will usually eat in the tubes & sleep in there sometimes...

its fine to use a cage around 1.5ft too...no harm...just that 2ft is recommended....you wouldnt like to stay in a house that fits 1 person only do u?

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thank you so much for the info  thumbup.gif

this is the one i currently used... can you tell me what type is this..

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i never saw that bedding before so i m not so sure what type of wood they use. they never write on the packet ah? its hard to say but if they didnt write then most probably they are made from pine...try to feel the texture...if it feels rough & looks like the shavings made by living world then most likely its pine...
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QUOTE(yueyi5730 @ Aug 27 2011, 02:39 PM)
can anyone tell me why syrian must be place in a tank instead of the normal hamster cages..coz i was telling my aunt since she wants a syrian hamster and i advice her to use the tank instead of the normal hamster cage..i told her the size of the tank is not relevant for a syrian..her excuse was tat she bought a lot of connecting tubes to add to another cage to make it bigger..so i need a solid answer.
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first of all..
if she wants connecting tubes
yes it can be big but she might need like two ovo pads to fit stuff of syrian hamsters
im not even sure if an ovo pad can fit an 8" wheel for syrians

connecting tubes may be combine to extend to a large home..
but then cause its connected by tubes... the space may not fit all of the syrian hamster stuff
if you make the house super big.. but the nest box is in one end.. the toilet in the next end
your hamster must travel far..
but you cannot put near also.. because not enough space.. must extend thru tubes

connecting tubes cages has the least ventilation and is difficult to find your hamster
at least tanks we can leave the top open (if your hamster doesnt try to escape)
those fully connecting tube ones only have dotted holes here and there for air

if your aunt is getting the half connecting half cage one
it has metal.. hamster will bite it to grind teeth which will be noisy
but most important is that.. the paint will come off and the bar will rust
but your hamster will still bite the rust and might get lead poisoning

they can hide in the tube and you will have less bonding time with them

tube cages are also the hardest to clean
you need to remove all the connections to clean.. then put it back again
syrian hamster.. that is not potty trained have the smelliest pee btw.. due to their acidic pee
(but syrian easy to potty train.. so if possible please do potty train them)

owh.. and syrian hamsters are bigger than other hamsters
i read at some foreign website that the owner reported their syrian hamster getting stuck in the tubes
of course overseas, there are many better diets for hamsters.. so their hamsters might be chubbier than ours
but still the possibility is there


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this is the one i currently used... can you tell me what type is this..

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what ever brand that is
even if its not pine also
try not to repurchase..
its scented
bad for hamsters respiration

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oh i missed out the part "to add to another cage to make it bigger"..... laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

anyway dream already explain everything in detail nod.gif thumbup.gif
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thanks everyone..i will try futher explain to her..she has the habbitrail safari cages..she plan to reuse them..which i dun reccomend her using it
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My hamster's eye is popping out. I'm really panicking as today is a Sunday, wonder if there's any open vets?

I suspect glaucoma. Or could be resulted from something entered his eye. If I can't find a vet, what do I do? I read to wet his eyeball with a saline solution. What type ok for hamster?
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i suspect that too

from hamsterific:
GLAUCOMA: Seen in Campbells Dwarfs more frequently than the other species. It is thought to be inherited and hamsters with Glaucoma should not be used for breeding purposes. It appears as though the eye globe is swollen, which increases pressure on the eye. If the eye prolapses, removal can be considered.

http://hamsterhideout.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2016

please try to contact dr yeoh:
Yeoh Veterinary Clinic & Surgery
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http://maps.google.com.my/maps/place?oe=ut...138801857597861
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^ Thx. I tried calling but no answer. I'll try tomorrow.

TTDI and Damansara Heights Vets are all closed. I went to Ikano, they don't have vets anymore. But the lady there advice me to put some Eye Mo on his eye.

She said it's 'busuk' already. Might have to a) go for surgery, or b) rid of the eye. Probably caused by constipation also. If there's too much pressure in the hammie body, it could cause something like this.

For now, I place him in his carrier (small but clean), put some tissue and shredded paper. Drop so Eye MO on his eye and monitor him. He's still active and restless (due to new environment?).

Btw, he is a syrian about 8 months old only.
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ya if they cant get rid of something from their body
their eyes may go sad.gif
constipation or something stuck in their cheek pouch also
thats why cedar and pine bedding is super bad.
cannot digest can cause digestion problems.. can cut their cheek pouch get stuck there

hope your hammie will be fine

btw try

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and you can try:
Dr Vellayan

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Tel: 013-6246 918
Tel/Fax: 03-4108 5530

(dr vellayan might be able to help as he is on call vet.. but please bring a male friend together when you go visit)
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Wow, new thread ady! The picture for the new thread's so cute! xD

Btw, anyone here have any experience of transporting hamster from west msia to sarawak? Thanks! happy.gif
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I mix harry hamster food with leftover kua chi i fed my hamster last time.

I have a problem!Hope you guys can help me.

Okay, gold and white are sisters. I bought them from breeder. About 3 weeks ago , they keep on fighting , white is the dominant one so i put my male hamster with white , and isolate gold into my male hamster cage.
White at first didnt like chip , my male hamster but she never fight , just squeek. Now she very close with chip and i think she's pregnant and may give birth in a few days( I saw them have -wink wink-2 weeks ago )
And now, white hates gold. She will bite gold whenever she smells her. Gold ear and butt had bleed.. So i never mix them again. And ever since i separate white and gold , gold has been... acting very strange.

She will squeek for no apparent reason as if scolding somebody.
I put fresh bathing sand for her everyday , but she's still so dirty!
My chip and white dont have bathing sand but they are so.... white and soft and clean! ( actually i take turn for them. One day they get bathing sand and gold dont get , next day vise versa but i been leaving it on gold's cage this few days )

Any ideas why this happen?


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ya if they cant get rid of something from their body
their eyes may go sad.gif
constipation or something stuck in their cheek pouch also
thats why cedar and pine bedding is super bad.
cannot digest can cause digestion problems.. can cut their cheek pouch get stuck there

hope your hammie will be fine

btw try

hands and paws
C-G-17, Ground Floor, Blok C,
Jln Pju 1/45,
Aman Suria,
47301 Petaling Jaya,
Selangor  Tel: 03-7804 6539

and you can try:
Dr Vellayan

10, Jalan L2, Phase 6A
Taman Melawati
53100 Kuala Lumpur
Tel: 013-6246 918
Tel/Fax: 03-4108 5530

(dr vellayan might be able to help as he is on call vet.. but please bring a male friend together when you go visit)
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And crap! My vet friend , gave me a big hamster cage and 2 big pack of chipsi bedding! I gave the classic one to my boyfriend coz he wanna keep my roborovski , so i took the apple scented one for my 3 winter whites... Shud i stop using it?

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And crap! My vet friend , gave me a big hamster cage and 2 big pack of chipsi bedding! I gave the classic one to my boyfriend coz he wanna keep my roborovski , so i took the apple scented one for my 3 winter whites... Shud i stop using it?
u worry scented bedding will harm your hammies?..
if u use chipsy scented bedding, u shouldnt be worry...i have used apple scented chipsy bedding for 1 and half month...i used it in the tank where the my WW babies live...all of them seem fine...and they live happily and healty...
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i added those recommended vets in the first page. let me know if there is any other recommended vets out there which treats hamsters. i will update the list then smile.gif

its not recommended to use scented bedding but if u bought already nvm u can use it...if the scent is too strong u can try to leave the bedding open in air for few hours first...let the scent to come out first but most likely the scent will still be there...i used strawberry bedding scent before when i didnt know scented bedding is not recommended. My hamster is still alive & is still healthy till today smile.gif


btw who breed mealworm before? how big is the beetle? my mealworm still no beetle hmm.gif how long does it take for the mealworm to change to beetle?
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Update:

I went to the vet in TTDI. Dr Clement I think. Service charge at RM30. He sum it up as a dead eyeball. I'll have to use eye drops Alcon (RM8.90) on my hammie as his tear duct is already not functioning.

It's not infectious. Could be his eye got poked by his cage/water dispenser/bedding etc.

His advice is too keep the eye clean and moist as to lessen the dry pain. In 5 days or so, if the eye drops on its own, I should be thankful. If not, surgery which will cost me RM200++.

Currently using tissue+paper bedding instead of wood shaving. He is still active but spend time a lot on resting also. How do I cheer him up? I don't wanna let him run around the house like he usually does. His eyes him rubbing into stuff. *faint*

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Kiiro and his dead eye, eating bread.

p/s: He said not to use Eye Mo as it contains chemical. Aiyah~

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Yea..i juz cod with 1 lyn member yzjean for 1 WW..very cute..haha...yst i go pet more..bought chipsi bedding apple scent also..hope it is ok for my hammies..thr is not much brand for bedding..anotger brand is living world..but i saw it contain pine..dunno it is good anot..coz the seller also gt gv me 1 pack... and shud i prepare a toilet for my hammie??.. hmm..i would like u all recommend which brands is good for bedding..food and others thing..coz yst i saw alot of brand..japan brand also gt..n habitrual brand for food..dunno good anot...and are living world a good brand???...
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living world and habitrail accessories are alright
but not their bedding or food
living world contains pine
any bedding with pine or cedar is not good

i do not agree with saying "i used chipsi scented for 5 years and my hamsters are fine so they are 100% safe to use"
sorry but thats like saying "i've let my dog run free for 5 years on the road and he never had a car accident.. therefore dogs never get accidentally hit by cars before
all i would say is. if you love your hammy. nothing scented UNLESS you cant find an alternative
(i.e. most hamster bathing sand are scented.. but chincilla (NOT CAT) bathing sands are fine)

food: vitakraft (harry hamster recommended for syrians only)

yes prepare a toilet.
if you potty train your hamster your job of cleaning the cage will be much much less
it'll be less smelly too (mine no smell at all)
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Aug 29 2011, 05:42 PM)
Yea..i juz cod with 1 lyn member yzjean for 1 WW..very cute..haha...yst i go pet more..bought chipsi bedding apple scent also..hope it is ok for my hammies..thr is not much brand for bedding..anotger brand is living world..but i saw it contain pine..dunno it is good anot..coz the seller also gt gv me 1 pack... and shud i prepare a toilet for my hammie??..  hmm..i would like u all recommend which brands is good for bedding..food and others thing..coz yst i saw alot of brand..japan brand also gt..n habitrual brand for food..dunno good anot...and are living world a good brand???...
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1) for bedding please refer to Post #61 (first post in page 4).
2) yes if you want to toilet train your hamster. please refer to page 1 on how to potty train your hamster.
3) for food please refer to page 1.

& about scented beddings u can read over here >> http://hamsterhideout.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=59802. another alternative bedding is corn cob type (the one made from natural corn). those are safe for hamsters but the disadvantage of that bedding is its does a bad job is insulating heat unlike wood shavings.


btw dream i used the woddy pack already last week....my hamster doesnt really like it...i notice the smell is too strong & he dosent sleep/eat in the toilet when i started use that. but it does a excellent job in absorbing his urine tho...
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haha my hamster like wor
try to hoard but tak berjaya

btw. you tried delikate bedding?
how?
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 29 2011, 07:05 PM)
haha my hamster like wor
try to hoard but tak berjaya

btw. you tried delikate bedding?
how?
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haha yeah i read that chipsi strong pine-like scent
thats why suspect they change their softwood source from spruce and fir to pine
i still got 1.5 pack of vitakraft dinner which will expire in december so i cant afford to buy harry hamster to make the 10 day switch thingy yet
urgh
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 29 2011, 07:41 PM)
haha yeah i read that chipsi strong pine-like scent
thats why suspect they change their softwood source from spruce and fir to pine
i still got 1.5 pack of vitakraft dinner which will expire in december so i cant afford to buy harry hamster to make the 10 day switch thingy yet
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i never get the chance to try chipsi bedding back in those days so i cant be sure...but their bedding is still soft & less smell compare to the living world bedding which is made from pine. so not so sure....plus i think if they change they will update their website right? hmm.gif

i see....mine still got half bottle...try giving your hamster mealworms laugh.gif i started giving him live mealworms & he never hoard it...just grab it & start nom nom nom nom on it.... thumbup.gif
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haha i scared he dont eat.. then i have to get rid of it
they can dont update website so long as they update their packaging
last time their packaging very clear put spruce and fir
now no more if i not mistaken.. just softwood
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so far delikate bedding is good biggrin.gif
the 1 i bought with u guys at 1U...
no prob so far...haha choco n noodles seems to like it... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 29 2011, 08:01 PM)
haha i scared he dont eat.. then i have to get rid of it
they can dont update website so long as they update their packaging
last time their packaging very clear put spruce and fir
now no more if i not mistaken.. just softwood
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oh...i never saw their old packing so i m not sure...might be possible...problem is they write softwood....never state what kind...

u can try...its rm1 only...so cheap...if he dont eat u can always throw it away nod.gif . most probably he will eat it la...its their natural instinct....plus they will always try to nib on new scent items...just like what my hamster did with woody pack at first...he thought that was food doh.gif

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i added those recommended vets in the first page. let me know if there is any other recommended vets out there which treats hamsters. i will update the list then smile.gif

its not recommended to use scented bedding but if u bought already nvm u can use it...if the scent is too strong u can try to leave the bedding open in air for few hours first...let the scent to come out first but most likely the scent will still be there...i used strawberry bedding scent before when i didnt know scented bedding is not recommended. My hamster is still alive & is still healthy till today smile.gif
btw who breed mealworm before? how big is the beetle? my mealworm still no beetle  hmm.gif how long does it take for the mealworm to change to beetle?
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i breed before. the beetle not really big.about 1~2 cm?? depends on the mealworm. that time i bought mealworms , after 2 days in the container there was a bunch of pupae. after 2 weeks , there are beetles!

Anyways , my white yesterday , suddenly bite little chip till bleed so much.. dunno why. she bite , chip was screaming and i tried to separate them but she keep bite him dunwan let go.. poor chip.. she pms kah?!

Aww.. i use harry hamster food for my ww wor.. its okay right?


mmm i feed my hammie superwormm. They go munchmunchmunchmunch!~

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is your cage too small?
hamsters are known to be territorial if the space is too small
cause sudd all your hamsters aggressive to one another.
but if lets say its 1 pair. they fight
you mix with another cage mate..
they wouldnt get together
fast will fight.. for winters and campbells..
they are not social animals.. at best pairs
so thats why for winters and campbells.
unless you have space... dont breed
in case they need to go solo...

i know loads of ppl who rare winters and campbells in social group or pairs
and breed thinking can keep all together
then find out they cannot and need to go solo
so for those with winter white
dont breed unless you can afford to let each of them go solo or risk fighting
and if you wanna get them.. get a PAIR.. ensure there's adequate space..
if they still fight. let them go solo like syrians.

for harry hamster
can feed to ww no problem
its just that i heard from others that
harry hamster pellets quite big
dwarf have difficulty eating
thats all

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i breed before. the beetle not really big.about 1~2 cm?? depends on the mealworm. that time i bought mealworms , after 2 days in the container there was a bunch of pupae. after 2 weeks , there are beetles!

Anyways , my white yesterday , suddenly bite little chip till bleed so much.. dunno why. she bite , chip was screaming and i tried to separate them but she keep bite him dunwan let go.. poor chip.. she pms kah?!

Aww.. i use harry hamster food for my ww wor.. its okay right?
mmm i feed my hammie superwormm. They go munchmunchmunchmunch!~
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i see...they are still young i guess then...still no beetles...but i saw a few shed skin tho...

hmm.gif maybe she is pregnant?
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Aug 29 2011, 11:45 PM)
is your cage too small?
hamsters are known to be territorial if the space is too small
cause sudd all your hamsters aggressive to one another.
but if lets say its 1 pair. they fight
you mix with another cage mate..
they wouldnt get together
fast will fight.. for winters and campbells..
they are not social animals.. at best pairs
so thats why for winters and campbells.
unless you have space... dont breed
in case they need to go solo...

i know loads of ppl who rare winters and campbells in social group or pairs
and breed thinking can keep all together
then find out they cannot and need to go solo
so for those with winter white
dont breed unless you can afford to let each of them go solo or risk fighting
and if you wanna get them.. get a PAIR.. ensure there's adequate space..
if they still fight. let them go solo like syrians.

for harry hamster
can feed to ww no problem
its just that i heard from others that
harry hamster pellets quite big
dwarf have difficulty eating
thats all
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Dont worry , i have 4 cages at home already >_<. If they need to go solo , worry not. I'm a good owner biggrin.gif.

the cage is medium , but she only fights with her sister. When i put the male she dont fight at all. She's okay with the male.
I also dont understand why, normally they will fight if the smell is different but she likes my male one - -~
I put my male with the other female , they also okay.
My male is very very 'good'. He wont fight back if get bullied , he's a very gentleman hamster. No wonder the ladies dont mind to be with him.. but he very horny - -".

As for white , i also think she's pregnant , she's been getting really big and fat. But she still not yet give birth. Her nipples also seem like its 'swelling' but i saw them mated 2 weeks ago on saturday... as well as sunday monday tuesday LOL..
Well today is wednesday , maybe she wasnt in heat on saturday .
I already put her to another smaller cage that i just bought specially for pregnant hamsters to stay and give birth in peace xD .
Have a wheel , home , water bottle and food bowl enough for her every needs.


Anyways , i could not resist sorry. Pets wonderland having hamster offer , Rm18 each , they sell syrian for Rm35 , drop to Rm18 .
I know that syrian can buy for Rm15 butt..
I always love this white syrian that i always see in pets wonderland. Pure white , have black ears and red eyes. I dont really like the common syrian that are just.. orange and white. I love that pure white one.
Arghh could not resist . I bought it. Will upload pictures soon biggrin.gif

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I went pet wonderland yst too..they are having hamster offer.. their cages are cheap that come with bedding n food..less than 100... smile.gif...petmore also having offer...their hamster is cheaper than petwonderland... but their cage are quite exp...hmm...i wonder why now pet wonderland selling nt much hamster product..tot wan to find some other brand bedding also cant get at there... sad.gif
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Sep 1 2011, 01:07 AM)
I went pet wonderland yst too..they are having hamster offer.. their cages are cheap that come with bedding n food..less than 100... smile.gif...petmore also having offer...their hamster is cheaper than petwonderland... but their cage are quite exp...hmm...i wonder why now pet wonderland selling nt much hamster product..tot wan to find some other brand bedding also cant get at there... sad.gif
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yeah kinda limited stuff they got...last time i went there...their bedding section was almost full of chipsi bedding doh.gif
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^ 90% full of chipsi bedding.
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i went petsmore that day.
specifically the empire branch.
their hamster full of mites.
i think in terms of petstore hamsters, petsmore and pet wonderland not so good

petsmore: dont change bedding, no wheel to run, got mites, nothing to bite, food bowl always empty

pets wonderland: buy 1 syrian free 1 syrian (encouraging ppl to buy two syrians, but didnt tell them two syrians = two cages)

bedding.. if anyone can find aspen... especially kaytee aspen.. please do share the info
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I saw the hamsters in pets wonderland and pets more in very bad condition. The eye looks like got infection and always got a few hamster injured.

Anyways , this is my new syrian , Panda. She kinda looks like a rat + chinchilla sometimes ==!

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That is adorable!! =3

Update:

My syrian, Kiiro finally gave up, give a last jolt and died in my hands. What a goodbye. He died last Tuesday, 1st Raya. It was hard being my first pet and all so I brought him to Melaka not convinced he's dead. I buried him at the kampung.

How do you guys bury your hamsters? I was all worried the cat is going to dig him up later.
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That is adorable!! =3

Update:

My syrian, Kiiro finally gave up, give a last jolt and died in my hands. What a goodbye. He died last Tuesday, 1st Raya. It was hard being my first pet and all so I brought him to Melaka not convinced he's dead. I buried him at the kampung.

How do you guys bury your hamsters? I was all worried the cat is going to dig him up later.
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mine one... i think there are 9 hamster graveyard behind my house... sweat.gif i arrange them.. put side by side... cat wount smell it... cover it properly... then shud be ok...

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RIP Yellow.

Cat's don't really dig if u bury it well. Dogs might.

I have a friend that found her hamster lifeless n limp one morning, buried it and later that day found it wandering in her garden. It was hibernating, apparently.

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Sep 3 2011, 02:23 AM)
RIP Yellow.

Cat's don't really dig if u bury it well. Dogs might.

I have a friend that found her hamster lifeless n limp one morning, buried it and later that day found it wandering in her garden. It was hibernating, apparently.
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shocking.gif erk, rclxub.gif the hamster died? or hibernate?? she buried it while the hamster hibernate? next day, found it jalan2 at the garden? hmm.gif
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guys.i wanna ask ah.i got 2 hamster (winter gold female).1 is very active.always on the roller.but another 1 she is super passive and keep staying in the room + her eyes looks like koyak.is there any chances they fighting ? but they stay in the same room last nite.i didnt hear any thing though.just that my 1st hamster is active and the 2nd one always sleep gua.how ?
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QUOTE(sayyidbest @ Sep 3 2011, 10:37 PM)
guys.i wanna ask ah.i got 2 hamster (winter gold female).1 is very active.always on the roller.but another 1 she is super passive and keep staying in the room + her eyes looks like koyak.is there any chances they fighting ? but they stay in the same room last nite.i didnt hear any thing though.just that my 1st hamster is active and the 2nd one always sleep gua.how ?
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might be d other 1 is afraid of goin out n play?
try bringing to vet for a check up is always the best option...
hope it gets better...
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might be d other 1 is afraid of goin out n play?
try bringing to vet for a check up is always the best option...
hope it gets better...
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jeez man.i saw them fighting.im going to bring both of em to vet tomorrow :S

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jeez man.i saw them fighting.im going to bring both of em to vet tomorrow :S
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doh.gif separate them
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White's nipples are swelling more large then before! I think she gonna give birth soon.. I hope. Looking forward to see the babies!!

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im thinking of giving out 1 male baby agouti WW...born on 7/8/11...condition healthy and active...

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dun put 2 hamster 2gther. 100% will fight and end up with hurt or dying.

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dun put 2 hamster 2gther. 100% will fight and end up with hurt or dying.
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not necessarily
it depends on what type of hamster
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dun put 2 hamster 2gther. 100% will fight and end up with hurt or dying.
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i put my 2 roborovski hamster together for more than 6 months and no hurt / dying. Just fighting over the wheel... By pushing the other one down the wheel.

I put my male winter white , 6 month old with 3 month old female winter white. Already been 2 months no fighting / hurt or dying = =
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bare in mind that
robos are social animals
but syrians are not.
winter whites and campbels are also NOT social animals

thats why they are best only in pairs.. not in a big group
winter whites and campbels will be territorial when they grow up,
especially when space becomes less as they become bigger

in social animals like rats and guinea pigs,
they can get DEPRESSION if kept alone
but this only happens in social animals
research shows that rats do best... 6 in a cage (i think 2 feet tank size)

so please, dont go keeping winters and campbels in large groups saying they will be lonely
it depends if they are a social animal or not
and robos wont kill each other when housed in a group setting
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Sep 4 2011, 08:14 PM)
bare in mind that
robos are social animals
but syrians are not.
winter whites and campbels are also NOT social animals

thats why they are best only in pairs.. not in a big group
winter whites and campbels will be territorial when they grow up,
especially when space becomes less as they become bigger

in social animals like rats and guinea pigs,
they can get DEPRESSION if kept alone
but this only happens in social animals
research shows that rats do best... 6 in a cage (i think 2 feet tank size)

so please, dont go keeping winters and campbels in large groups saying they will be lonely
it depends if they are a social animal or not
and robos wont kill each other when housed in a group setting
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agreed. Thats why i keep my syrian in a solo cage, 2 ww in one cage , another pms-ing pregnant ww in another cage. That day i just take out the male from the pregnant female for 5 minutes , after i put back she attack the male. But my other ww hamster very socialable.

Well i had a guinea pig and believe me , it really needs a partner or else.. u daii
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agreed. Thats why i keep my syrian in a solo cage, 2 ww in one cage , another pms-ing pregnant ww in another cage. That day i just take out the male from the pregnant female for 5 minutes , after i put back she attack the male. But my other ww hamster very socialable.

Well i had a guinea pig and believe me , it really needs a partner or else.. u daii
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okay so now im noticed that they didnt fight too much.they keep sleeping + they share bed and spaces.but this orange winter gold keep harrasing this white winter gold.i have bought another cage in case they fighting.is there any way i can ask this orange winter gold to stop attacking another female ? they are both females btw.
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i think the best thing is to separate them
however, one common reason that winters fight when they mature is due to lack of space

you can try buying a bigger cage and see if they still fight
but if they do fight, you still have to separate them
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okay so now im noticed that they didnt fight too much.they keep sleeping + they share bed and spaces.but this orange winter gold keep harrasing this white winter gold.i have bought another cage in  case they fighting.is there any way i can ask this orange winter gold to stop attacking another female ? they are both females btw.
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omg! we have the same problem! But my winter pearl , is the one harrasing my winter gold. They are sisters. After awhile , i separate them coz they were making too much sound. Its no use i tried to 'stop' them from fighting but ... nope it dont work.
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syrian, even F & F oso fight isnt it.. how M & M?? unsure.gif mine one sometimes fight, sometimes they friendly @.@
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syrian, even F & F oso fight isnt it.. how M & M?? unsure.gif mine one sometimes fight, sometimes they friendly @.@
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haha like humans also wert. Which human never fight before?

Anyways , just now i went back home , my syrian , panda , was like.. wheezing! Looks as though as she has flu. I saw her nose also like got booger. Anyone knows a reasonable priced vet around kl who treats hamsters?
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syrian, even F & F oso fight isnt it.. how M & M?? unsure.gif mine one sometimes fight, sometimes they friendly @.@
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 7 2011, 04:56 PM)
haha like humans also wert. Which human never fight before?

Anyways , just now i went back home , my syrian , panda , was like.. wheezing! Looks as though as she has flu. I saw her nose also like got booger. Anyone knows a reasonable priced vet around kl who treats hamsters?
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well i m not sure what that problem is....maybe try a quick google search? but it is possible for hamster to get flu....but its not common....hamster have really good immune system...but that dosent mean it couldnt happen....

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its nose has mucus and its wheezing. google didnt help me sad.gif..

my roborovski hamster juliet ,which my bf is keeping now has wet tail! Lucky i talk to him about wet tail today when he asked why chip's body was wet ( he pee and sleep on it )

The vet says its in mild stage. Thank god.. And charged RM30 D:
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its nose has mucus and its wheezing. google didnt help me sad.gif..

my roborovski hamster juliet ,which my bf is keeping now has wet tail! Lucky i talk to him about wet tail today when he asked why chip's body was wet ( he pee and sleep on it )

The vet says its in mild stage. Thank god.. And charged RM30 D:
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which vet you went to?
i still recommend dr. yeoh in taman megah as he has experience with hamsters

once have mucus, confirm is a flu
just pray hard that its bacterial and not viral
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i didnt go to the vet , my bf brought it to a vet in kepong.
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Age: 3 (age 1 months) 2 (age 6 months)

Breed: SYRIAN HAMSTERS (WHITE AND BROWN BREED)

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Contact method: 012-2851635

Reason for adoption/ Message for interested parties:

My friend leaving in a rented house, they just gave birth 1 month ago and have pretty adorable babies (white + brown) unfortunately the house owner suddenly becomes really grungy and wont allowed any pets to be at this house, right after 5 months she had them and give just one week notice, so now she needs to give them away urgently before this Monday, so anyone whos interested pls PM me or msg me

U NEED YOUR OWN CAGE btw as for now the baby hamsters is with the mother and the male one is separated, thanks

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Today when i wanted to clean Panda's cage , the cage was really smelly. I Picked panda out and figured out that she had diarrhea . Now she has diarrhea + flu.

I presume she has wet tail too... But nobody is at home to take me to a vet! I gave her some remedy of my own , apple cider vinegar + honey to try to detox her and give her some energy. She is still very active walking here there but not eating and drinking. I forced her to drink water but I have no idea how to feed her.. Should i mix pellets with water to make it mushy and feed her? Im so worried..

Hope panda gets well soon.

Damn it. Gold started to get very vicious with chip. He was innocently sleeping under the wheel , gold was running on the wheel , smell chip and attacked him. I seperated them to different cages now . Except for chip , for i love him so much , i took a plastic basket , put newspaper down there to prevent bedding from coming out of the holes , added a dish of water and food , a wooden toy for him. I think he's living 'the life' now. The basket is really big.

Update! : 1 ~ 2 days left for white to give birth!

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please get this to fed your hamster
http://www.oxbowanimalhealth.com/products/...ail?object=1608
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i'll try to get it. do u know any place that would sell this?
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pet shack
http://petshack.com.my/webshaper/store/vie...ProductItem=811
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Ya..i saw it b4..bandar puteri petmore or pet4u...i forgot which shop..coz that day i went this 2 pet shop n saw this...
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heyy! what happens if chip and white mates and have babies while chip and gold mates again and have another group babies.

can chip and white's babies mate with chip and gold's babies??? they have the same father after all.

p.s. white gave birth today!!! yayy!!! she gave birth to 6 pups!!! but i think 1 of it is dead because it wasn't moving butt i've only glanced at it for a few seconds!
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cannot. same father.. still consider inbreed
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ohh okay!! thankss

panda died today.... sad.gif R.I.P.
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ohh okay!! thankss

panda died today.... sad.gif R.I.P.
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Its okay. Just wondering again , sorry for the bundle of questions ,
I gave a full bowl of harry hamster food to white on saturday night. But i am afraid that she'll finish it. The babies are just about 1 day old and i want to add the hamster food. Is it okay if i take out the lid in put the hamster food inside ( without touching the babies of coz )! Anyways , white gave birth in the middle of the cage sleep.gif.. im really scared if i add food she will eat the babies.

I want to give her a superworm too , for protein , but i am also afraid she'll eat the babies. Any suggestion?
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Ix3rukia..where u buy superworm...i want to buy for my hammie too..ard how much??
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dont worry...if u think that white is comfortable with u, it should be no problem...as long as she know u and never feels u as a threat, she will not eat her babbies...
whether she thinks that u are a threat or not, try to give her mealworms through the opening of cage from the outside...if she come to u and eat the mealworm as usual, she is confortable with u...

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@Techsub i bought mine at a fish shop near my area there. taman desa aquarium. around RM 1 for 12 super worms.

@noruddin oo... mine's a plastic tank but when i gave her super worm, she did try to climb up my hand.. yay she actually has 7 babies! i'm so proud.
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if she acts normally, its ok...u can add food or change water...

last time the next day after my hamster give birth, she climb up my hand when i give her mealworm...then i take her out from the tank...after finish eating mealworms, i put her back in the tank...

im currently take-caring of my gf hamster...she gave me her hamster while she went back to kampung for raya...while she at kampung, her hamster give birth to 6 pups(3rd sept)...her hamster do not like me so much...she like to bite my finger if i hold her...eventhough she do not like me much, she still dont feels any harm from me when i take her out of the cage for mealworms meal... smile.gif
she likes to bite..but for the sake of eating mealworms she knows that she need to behave like a good girl... biggrin.gif
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i just realized that the CHUBBIE HAMSTER V13 has been closed. huhuhu. thank god i found u guys again. anyway, i have 4 winter white hamster babies for adoption. now aged 4 weeks. i have to find new family for them coz i have a very limited space in my room.currently have 2 cages [one with 3 syrians and another one with 3 adult WW and 4 WW babies]. if anyone interested, i will be available for meet up [wangsa maju/setiawangsa] starting 24th sept n onwards coz m busy with new sem registration n first week classes. i will only let them go to those who have experinces handling WW. wink.gif the charge will be rm10 for each.

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hello everyone biggrin.gif can I know how to identify what type r my hamsters? I just bought them for few weeks.. and now they keep fighting... like everyday.. I'm not sure they are fighting or playing. I checked once a while but no physical wounds on their body.. Ah.. and not to mention that one of them really likes to bite me.. was he psychologically hurt?

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QUOTE(yeohkc @ Sep 12 2011, 11:00 PM)
hello everyone biggrin.gif can I know how to identify what type r my hamsters? I just bought them for few weeks.. and now they keep fighting... like everyday.. I'm not sure they are fighting or playing. I checked once a while but no physical wounds on their body.. Ah.. and not to mention that one of them really likes to bite me.. was he psychologically hurt?
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can u show the picture of your hamster...and their size...
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This is my hamster photo.. the other one is black and white biggrin.gif i guess its mixed one.. since I bought them for rm10/each only biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

My Hamster


sorry I dunno how to upload the photo here ><
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QUOTE(yeohkc @ Sep 13 2011, 06:18 PM)
This is my hamster photo.. the other one is black and white biggrin.gif i guess its mixed one.. since I bought them for rm10/each only biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif

My Hamster


sorry I dunno how to upload the photo here ><
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that is syrian hamster. confirm they will fight...need to separate them or else 1 is going to end up dead. black & white? most probably its a panda bear syrian. the one in the picture is called teddy bear syrian icon_rolleyes.gif

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The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together.
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yor.. thanks for helping me identify them ok.. biggrin.gif so now they r really fighting and not playing..? oh ho.. this gonna be a trouble.. >< gonna separate them soon.. thanks again biggrin.gif

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The most important rule about Syrians is that they are SOLITARY... never house 2 together. If breeding, there is a way where you must put the female into the male's cage only when the female is on heat. It is very risky and dangerous to house 2 syrians together at any time since they are very well known to fight till death. So if you treasure the life of your hamster, never put 2 syrians together


one more question ya.. if I separate them.. how do I know when the female is heat? any identical behavior?

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Dear hammie seniors,

I just started having a syrian hamster yesterday. She/he was really cute (forgot to ask about the gender). But when I firstly put it into the cage (2nd hand cage from my sister's friend), the hamster ran around the cage, i guess becuase he/she wanted to get use to it. Today when i woke up, i noticed he/she still sleeping, until 4:00pm when I came back from class, still sleeping. Until 7pm he/she wokeup and finding food. I'd like to know if sleeping for such a long hour is normal for a Syrian hamster?

Secondly, this darling hamster of mine don't want to be caught, he/she keep running around when i tried to hold him/her. I'm afraid to squeeze him/her too tight, but everything, he/she just slip out of my hand. HWhat should I do? The hamster seems to be afraid of me...

Your help is very much being appreciated. Thank you!! biggrin.gif icon_question.gif


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QUOTE(yeohkc @ Sep 13 2011, 08:14 PM)
yor.. thanks for helping me identify them ok.. biggrin.gif so now they r really fighting and not playing..? oh ho.. this gonna be a trouble.. >< gonna separate them soon.. thanks again biggrin.gif
one more question ya.. if I separate them.. how do I know when the female is heat? any identical behavior?
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i m not so sure about female heat. but some people say got smell..so if u can smell something different then u know la...or if she is in heat & u introduce your male hamster to her, he will start licking & do his job...depends tho...but i wouldnt advice u to breed tho or intro your male hamster to her. u will need to do lots of research first before start breeding & make sure u can provide each of them separate cage & accessories...

QUOTE(greenman_10 @ Sep 13 2011, 11:06 PM)
Dear hammie seniors,

I just started having a syrian hamster yesterday. She/he was really cute (forgot to ask about the gender). But when I firstly put it into the cage (2nd hand cage from my sister's friend), the hamster ran around the cage, i guess becuase he/she wanted to get use to it. Today when i woke up, i noticed he/she still sleeping, until 4:00pm when I came back from class, still sleeping. Until 7pm he/she wokeup and finding food. I'd like to know if sleeping for such a long hour is normal for a Syrian hamster?

Secondly, this darling hamster of mine don't want to be caught, he/she keep running around when i tried to hold him/her. I'm afraid to squeeze him/her too tight, but everything, he/she just slip out of my hand. HWhat should I do? The hamster seems to be afraid of me...

Your help is very much being appreciated. Thank you!! biggrin.gif icon_question.gif
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cool...another syrian owner rclxms.gif well its normal, they want to explore around their new environment. & about the sleeping issue...its normal...hamster sleeps a lot...usually they are active after 12am till morning. u got wheel already? u can try to put the cage in your room & sleep today. later middle of the night your hamster will wake u up...they will run in their wheel etc... whistling.gif

its still new...let your hamster get used to the new environment first....they might sleep more because stress....new environment & all....let them settle down for 1 week....if u can wake up middle of the night u can see...your hamster should be active at that time...& it takes time to tame your hamster...first time handling your hamster is like that...they are afraid of your hand & scent...he/she might even bite you if he feels threatened.

1) just start slowly...intro your hand to your hamster first basically u want to intro your natural scent to him(try not to have any perfume or wash your hand before u intro...got soap smell)....& dont carry him first!
2) then start giving him/her treats using your hand (sunflower seed can be used as treats)....
3)then slowly let him climb on your hand...u can do all this slowly slowly...after 2-3days proceed with next step...dont do all at one time....everything need to be done slowly so that your hamster wont feel scared
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cool...another syrian owner rclxms.gif well its normal, they want to explore around their new environment. & about the sleeping issue...its normal...hamster sleeps a lot...usually they are active after 12am till morning. u got wheel already? u can try to put the cage in your room & sleep today. later middle of the night your hamster will wake u up...they will run in their wheel etc... whistling.gif

its still new...let your hamster get used to the new environment first....they might sleep more because stress....new environment & all....let them settle down for 1 week....if u can wake up middle of the night u can see...your hamster should be active at that time...& it takes time to tame your hamster...first time handling your hamster is like that...they are afraid of your hand & scent...he/she might even bite you if he feels threatened.

1) just start slowly...intro your hand to your hamster first basically u want to intro your natural scent to him(try not to have any perfume or wash your hand before u intro...got soap smell)....& dont carry him first!
2) then start giving him/her treats using your hand (sunflower seed can be used as treats)....
3)then slowly let him climb on your hand...u can do all this slowly slowly...after 2-3days proceed with next step...dont do all at one time....everything need to be done slowly so that your hamster wont feel scared
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Ouh... thank you very much... yea, i've bought a big wheel for him/her... It's quite sad seeing him/her running away from my hand. I'll get aquaintance with him/her slowly. Thank you again for your kind help. biggrin.gif
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Dear hammie seniors,

I just started having a syrian hamster yesterday. She/he was really cute (forgot to ask about the gender). But when I firstly put it into the cage (2nd hand cage from my sister's friend), the hamster ran around the cage, i guess becuase he/she wanted to get use to it. Today when i woke up, i noticed he/she still sleeping, until 4:00pm when I came back from class, still sleeping. Until 7pm he/she wokeup and finding food. I'd like to know if sleeping for such a long hour is normal for a Syrian hamster?

Secondly, this darling hamster of mine don't want to be caught, he/she keep running around when i tried to hold him/her. I'm afraid to squeeze him/her too tight, but everything, he/she just slip out of my hand. HWhat should I do? The hamster seems to be afraid of me...

Your help is very much being appreciated. Thank you!! biggrin.gif icon_question.gif
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Juz take it slowly...my gf get 1 WW few weeks ago..and keep it in hers room..the hamster sleep on noon and wake up at night to play wheel..the hamster wake up whenever my gf off the light...sometime my gf wan play with her at noon..she will wake the hamster up....

ur hamster keep run away from u mayb ur hamster is new to u...my gf even kena bite twice when it is new..so becareful ya...damn pain..like injection..base on my gf description...haha...

but i also gt 1 problem facing..y the hamster will keep food on her mouth??...gt few time my gf notice she keep taking the food from dunno where she store the food and keep eat...and gt 2 times she spit out on bedding and it is stink...it is not vomit...
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I have 3 Male WW Hamsters ! All have their own palace !!
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Sep 14 2011, 12:47 AM)
Juz take it slowly...my gf get 1 WW few weeks ago..and keep it in hers room..the hamster sleep on noon and wake up at night to play wheel..the hamster wake up whenever my gf off the light...sometime my gf wan play with her at noon..she will wake the hamster up....

ur hamster keep run away from u mayb ur hamster is new to u...my gf even kena bite twice when it is new..so becareful ya...damn pain..like injection..base on my gf description...haha...

but i also gt 1 problem facing..y the hamster will keep food on her mouth??...gt few time my gf notice she keep taking the food from dunno where she store the food and keep eat...and gt 2 times she spit out on bedding and it is stink...it is not vomit...
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its normal...its called hoarding...hamster love to hoard their food...in the wild they usually go out at night to find food...they will travel here & there & collect as much food as possible & store in their pouch. later when they reach back to their home they will remove it, eat a little & store the rest. so its their natural behavior...we cant change that...mine also do that....

same goes with bedding...they collect it in their pouch & remove it later in their house & arrange it...they are making their bed more comfortable i guess... hmm.gif but i do not have any smell problem...usually whatever they horde & remove is still dry...its possible to kena a little saliva but usually no smell hmm.gif maybe your gf hamster store it too long in the pouch? but their pouch usually dry one or little moist only... or maybe the smell is another source? hamster pee in their house?
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haha normal hamster behaviour la all this

hamsters are active and will only wake up between 7pm to 11pm
waking them up during noon is actually not recommended
yeah some will say my hamster tame wont bite and all
but common.. if you sleeping 3 am i come wake you up?
actually not a good thing for hamsters

hoarding is perfectly normal
stink should be from pee
check the four corners of your tank and see if there is a stained area
buy a toilet and toilet train him
syrians are easy to toilet train
very clean animals

like i've advised many other hamster owners over and over again
it is highly not recommended to breed your hamster
if you bought 2 from same pet shop.. might have inbreed cases
mummy hamster mihgt eat baby hamster
mummy might kill daddy
mummy might die in labour

if the babies are successful, you need to sex them
seperate them according to their gender and make sure they never mate
inbreed cases
if syrian babies, need to have each one 2ft tank + 8" wheel
bout 100 ringgit each baby

way to make your hamster more tame at the beginning
wear a clean t-shirt and sleep in it for one night
throw it over your hamsters tank the next day when he sleeping
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My hamster been peeing alot at the side of the cage. Its like super wet at that area and i did put alot bedding. I took a spoon and remove the wet bedding part , lucky the babies on the other corner. So now she started to drink and wet the bedding again.

Can i add more bedding? Mine is chipsi scented apple.. Or shud i just leave it alone?

I'm afraid got fungus will grow. i even see flies trying to get inside already
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Sep 14 2011, 12:47 AM)
Juz take it slowly...my gf get 1 WW few weeks ago..and keep it in hers room..the hamster sleep on noon and wake up at night to play wheel..the hamster wake up whenever my gf off the light...sometime my gf wan play with her at noon..she will wake the hamster up....

ur hamster keep run away from u mayb ur hamster is new to u...my gf even kena bite twice when it is new..so becareful ya...damn pain..like injection..base on my gf description...haha...

but i also gt 1 problem facing..y the hamster will keep food on her mouth??...gt few time my gf notice she keep taking the food from dunno where she store the food and keep eat...and gt 2 times she spit out on bedding and it is stink...it is not vomit...
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My hamster been peeing alot at the side of the cage. Its like super wet at that area and i did put alot bedding. I took a spoon and remove the wet bedding part , lucky the babies on the other corner. So now she started to drink and wet the bedding again.

Can i add more bedding? Mine is chipsi scented apple.. Or shud i just leave it alone?

I'm afraid got fungus will grow. i even see flies trying to get inside already
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it will be better if u buy a toilet & start toilet train her. once she is toilet train it will be very easy to clean it...just replace the toilet litter when needed.

u can add more bedding if u want but not too much till she have to dig to pee...they need to feel comfortable....its better if u change the bedding every time if its possible....but honestly better toilet train your hamster...toilet litter absorb pee better than bedding.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Sep 15 2011, 07:44 AM)
it will be better if u buy a toilet & start toilet train her. once she is toilet train it will be very easy to clean it...just replace the toilet litter when needed.

u can add more bedding if u want but not too much till she have to dig to pee...they need to feel comfortable....its better if u change the bedding every time if its possible....but honestly better toilet train your hamster...toilet litter absorb pee better than bedding.
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ooh i see. Actually she is toilet trained , i put in a small house and she pee inside there only and outside of the house. i removed the toilet coz i tot the sand not good for the babies.

Thanks aswen.

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Share some of my hammy photo with u guys... still got ard 2months will be his 1yr old bday... rclxms.gif

Always looking at me that way when i wanna gv guaci to him.. & he always fell asleep at his bathing room.. sweat.gif

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My hammy getting very chubby just like a meatball to me.. & he was kinda afraid when he notice there's a stranger in his cage.. Haha.. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(babybb @ Sep 16 2011, 12:10 AM)
Share some of my hammy photo with u guys... still got ard 2months will be his 1yr old bday...  rclxms.gif

Always looking at me that way when i wanna gv guaci to him.. & he always fell asleep at his bathing room..  sweat.gif

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My hammy getting very chubby just like a meatball to me.. & he was kinda afraid when he notice there's a stranger in his cage.. Haha..  laugh.gif

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haha is that zorro? Nice robo u have there smile.gif.


White ate 2 of her babies today.. I left the bodies there... I heard that i should leave it there so she can eat it to provide more nourishment for her other pups.. One of it she ate all the intestine.. another one she just bite it 1 time.. AIYAH. SO SCARY D: hope she dont eat her other 5 pups.

-I added a bowl of harry hamster food fresh everyday + superworm. Apparently she only eats the superworm @@.
-Added toilet.
-Changed bedding.
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 16 2011, 12:32 AM)
haha is that zorro? Nice robo u have there smile.gif.
White ate 2 of her babies today.. I left the bodies there... I heard that i should leave it there so she can eat it to provide more nourishment for her other pups.. One of it she ate all the intestine.. another one she just bite it 1 time.. AIYAH. SO SCARY D: hope she dont eat her other 5 pups.

-I added a bowl of harry hamster food fresh everyday + superworm. Apparently she only eats the superworm @@.
-Added toilet.
-Changed bedding.
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Thanks ix3Rukia... Haha..yea i just put it for fun when i took his picture.. he was kinda scare when he tot there's a stranger in his cage.. & lastly he fell asleep at his wheel stand oso.. sweat.gif

Ohh so soli to heard abt the pups.. hope the mother wont eat the pups anymore. Haha..my hammy more teruk.. he was the most picky 1.. everytime refill new foods for him he sure know 1 then gali gali & kick out all the green pallets just ate his favourite foods oli.. aiyoo those green pallets really doesnt eat at all.. now i got a whole packets contents just oli the green pallets that he kicks out.. shakehead.gif

More Pictures :-

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That's his cooling plate..he like to sleep on it alot when he was having his evening sleep =)

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QUOTE(babybb @ Sep 16 2011, 01:01 AM)
Thanks ix3Rukia... Haha..yea i just put it for fun when i took his picture.. he was kinda scare when he tot there's a stranger in his cage.. & lastly he fell asleep at his wheel stand oso..  sweat.gif

Ohh so soli to heard abt the pups.. hope the mother wont eat the pups anymore. Haha..my hammy more teruk.. he was the most picky 1.. everytime refill new foods for him he sure know 1 then gali gali & kick out all the green pallets just ate his favourite foods oli.. aiyoo those green pallets really doesnt eat at all.. now i got a whole packets contents just oli the green pallets that he kicks out..  shakehead.gif

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That's his cooling plate..he like to sleep on it alot when he was having his evening sleep =)
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Hi there, what do you mean by cooling plate? Is it necessary for a hamster? Mine is Syrian. And still new, not even one week with him.

We still unfamiliar with each other, yet. Huh... how sad... break my heart.
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QUOTE(greenman_10 @ Sep 16 2011, 01:29 AM)
Hi there, what do you mean by cooling plate? Is it necessary for a hamster? Mine is Syrian. And still new, not even one week with him.

We still unfamiliar with each other, yet. Huh... how sad... break my heart.
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Aww.. dun be sad.. take some time with your hammy even new friend need some time to be close rite? Let me share some of my tips with you. When i 1st brought my robo v oso unfamiliar with each others too.. beside he kept on running from me when ever i catch him. Let him familiar with his cage surroundings 1st then slowly slowly held him & let him familiar with your hands & smells but make sure to wash your hands if you handle foods before so he wont mistake it as a foods & bite your hands.

FIY, i very seldom give my hammy sunflower seeds cos it's very unhealthy for hammy. I usually give him once every week only so normally i'll crack the shells for him put it in my palm & slowly slowly put it infront of him. Once he smells it automatically he'll jump right to my palm & start eat it or you just hold the seeds & he'll straight away eat it at your hands. When i got free time i'll chat with my hammy too.. by that way it can let your hammy get used to your voice & smells. Sometime do play with him by catching him at your hands & just play play with him but dun play with him straight after he wake up it might piss him off. I normally help my hammy massage massage his back & he luv it very much.. Hahaha.. So just give some time for your hammy once he feel more confident i sure he will stick 2 u.. Just like my hammyi can easily catch him now lo =)

Ohh.. Tat cooling plate is an aluminum plate for hamster. It's work as a cooling bedding for hammy especially if your room got air-cond the cooling plate would be goody for hammy especially in this hot weather.. But even your room doesnt have air-cond oso the cooling plate still will feel bit cold for hammy.. My hammy love 2 sleep on it as it give cooling effect during evening for him.. Haha.. Erm it's not necessary for a hamster but i wan my hammy to sleep more comfortable oli.. Haha.. beside my cooling plate look like this :-

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Hope you can bond with your hammy soon ya.. any question can post at here anything.. Cheers.. =)
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help! My white today i saw one of her nipple are blackish green!! Like quite big. The other one also a bit blackish green.. Omg i scare its fungus . Scare baby will get harm if it drink

@babybb is that hand made cage??

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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 16 2011, 05:43 PM)
help! My white today i saw one of her nipple are blackish green!! Like quite big. The other one also a bit blackish green.. Omg i scare its fungus . Scare baby will get harm if it drink

@babybb is that hand made cage??
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Yup.. That's hand-make cage.. Umm actually it just a carton box.. I though of buying cage for him but then cage have a limited space although it got few level with tube attached with it. So i take a carton box & customise it abit to become his cage.. Umm its not as nice as those fancy cage but at least it's open air & more open space for him to run here & there.. Haha.. tongue.gif

I'm so sorry abt your hamsters although i'm not sure whats the problem is but i do hope your hammy is doing fine. Hope others sifu here can help u..

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haha i also use a basket as a hand made cage for one of my hamster. Care to take a full view of ur hamster 'cage'?

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Here is an image of that black thingy that is grown on my hamster in just a day!
It is now hard , not skin like.
Its feels sorta like a scab..
The vets also dunno what the heck is that ask me leave it alone and see what happens..

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bring to a vet who is experienced with hamsters
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QUOTE(babybb @ Sep 16 2011, 02:55 AM)
Aww.. dun be sad.. take some time with your hammy even new friend need some time to be close rite? Let me share some of my tips with you. When i 1st brought my robo v oso unfamiliar with each others too.. beside he kept on running from me when ever i catch him. Let him familiar with his cage surroundings 1st then slowly slowly held him & let him familiar with your hands & smells but make sure to wash your hands if you handle foods before so he wont mistake it as a foods & bite your hands.

FIY, i very seldom give my hammy sunflower seeds cos it's very unhealthy for hammy. I usually give him once every week only so normally i'll crack the shells for him put it in my palm & slowly slowly put it infront of him. Once he smells it automatically he'll jump right to my palm & start eat it or you just hold the seeds & he'll straight away eat it at your hands. When i got free time i'll chat with my hammy too.. by that way it can let your hammy get used to your voice & smells. Sometime do play with him by catching him at your hands & just play play with him but dun play with him straight after he wake up it might piss him off. I normally help my hammy massage massage his back & he luv it very much.. Hahaha.. So just give some time for your hammy once he feel more confident i sure he will stick 2 u.. Just like my hammyi can easily catch him now lo =)

Ohh.. Tat cooling plate is an aluminum plate for hamster. It's work as a cooling bedding for hammy especially if your room got air-cond the cooling plate would be goody for hammy especially in this hot weather.. But even your room doesnt have air-cond oso the cooling plate still will feel bit cold for hammy.. My hammy love 2 sleep on it as it give cooling effect during evening for him.. Haha.. Erm it's not necessary for a hamster but i wan my hammy to sleep more comfortable oli.. Haha..  beside my cooling plate look like this :-

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Hope you can bond with your hammy soon ya.. any question can post at here anything.. Cheers.. =)
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Ouh, I see... very informative. biggrin.gif My sister said i should bought it when he was young, so that he get use to it easier. When i bought him, the man said he was about 3 to 4 months already. If he doesn't let me catch him, it's quite difficult for me to catch him. I'll try to talk and liase with him more, i guess. Haa...

Thank you so much!! wub.gif
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Well the vet says it may be the baby bite the nipple too hard , and that is a scab. Cant wait for baby's eyes to open tomorrow!


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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 20 2011, 08:23 PM)
Well the vet says it may be the baby bite the nipple too hard , and that is a scab. Cant wait for baby's eyes to open tomorrow!
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Ya,thats what happened to my hamsters when feeding babies also.
Btw, my latest batch is ready to let go. smile.gif
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Ya,thats what happened to my hamsters when feeding babies also.
Btw, my latest batch is ready to let go. smile.gif
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Now the scab thing no more le. Its like a big hole cry.gif scare get infection.

My batch is ready to let go in 1 and 1/2 weeks biggrin.gif
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my hammy gave birth to 4 baby hamster, already near 2 weeks. Can i noe when will they open eye? now have fur alrdy. first time my hamster giv birth, so advice from u guys =)

i did not touch them and leave mother alot food. She did not harm the babies. =)

also anyone giving up their ww hamster? my 2 ww sapphire is growing well, if can anyone giving away babies to adopt? hehe


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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 22 2011, 11:10 PM)
my hammy gave birth to 4 baby hamster, already near 2 weeks. Can i noe when will they open eye? now have fur alrdy. first time my hamster giv birth, so advice from u guys =)

i did not touch them and leave mother alot food. She did not harm the babies. =)

also anyone giving up their ww hamster? my 2 ww sapphire is growing well, if can anyone giving away babies to adopt? hehe
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Well,usually mine will open their eyes in between 2 to 3 weeks.
After that,they will be VERY active in the cage, running around.
After around 25 days, should be ready to let go.

I'm thinking of letting go 1 of my WW pearl female as she haven't give birth until now. smile.gif
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today i saw my hamster yawn...her teeth is damn long n sharp...how to shorten it....she din bite anything inside the cage..even her bowl or house...and my cage is Ovo....i gt hard food for her...but she quite selective, she doesnt choose the hard food to eat...left there only...very sombong also... smile.gif
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woooot....its been sometime =) how are ur hamster all doin june n aswen...
choco n noodles is gettin chubbier than ever =)
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Hi there, my two Robo is turning 8 months soon.I wondering usually hamster will breed very fast but Im kinda worry bout my hammy.Is there anything wrong with them?I have checked both of them are diff sex.How?
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QUOTE(TechUsb @ Sep 23 2011, 05:56 PM)
today i saw my hamster yawn...her teeth is damn long n sharp...how to shorten it....she din bite anything inside the cage..even her bowl or house...and my cage is Ovo....i gt hard food for her...but she quite selective, she doesnt choose the hard food to eat...left there only...very sombong also...  smile.gif
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u can buy this user posted image i bought last month & until today my hamster still grind his teeth when he feels like it. u can find the wooden bridge in petstore...its around rm6.
Before i tried the wooden bridge i was using apple wood. that is quite good too but the only bad side about apple wood is once the outer layer is removed my hamster wont grind his teeth with it anymore...takes about 2days then have to change new apple wood. but the wooden bridge is highly recommended coz until today(about 1 month already) he is still using it, plus it can act as a hiding place or toy for your hamster to climb on it.

QUOTE(markjohn @ Sep 23 2011, 07:17 PM)
woooot....its been sometime =) how are ur hamster all doin june n aswen...
choco n noodles is gettin chubbier than ever =)
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he is doing great...getting fat because i give him mealworms laugh.gif

QUOTE(xiaofer @ Sep 24 2011, 01:02 AM)
Hi there, my two Robo is turning 8 months soon.I wondering usually hamster will breed very fast but Im kinda worry bout my hammy.Is there anything wrong with them?I have checked both of them are diff sex.How?
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have u seen them mating? if so then maybe the male is just doing it wrong...if so then it might take some time...

or it could be the male is just not interested...
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haha aswen you bought the bridge already?
my bridge after so many months still in ok condition
i think hamlet prefers dog biscuit than the bridge

btw, try dog biscuit too.. check out the ingredients before buying thou
dog biscuit is good cause most hamsters love dog biscuit taste
and will bite it all the time
1 a week is sufficient
plus it gives protein to your hamster (i dont give meal worm so this is great!)

@markjohn: hamlet is doing fine.. alil reluctant to play sometimes since im working now.. he will wake up or wait up for me in the morning to see me wake up.. and then wehen i come home from work he is in toilet... i think he knows i will shoo him outta toilet so when that happens he knows im home
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 22 2011, 11:10 PM)
my hammy gave birth to 4 baby hamster, already near 2 weeks. Can i noe when will they open eye? now have fur alrdy. first time my hamster giv birth, so advice from u guys =)

i did not touch them and leave mother alot food. She did not harm the babies. =)

also anyone giving up their ww hamster? my 2 ww sapphire is growing well, if can anyone giving away babies to adopt? hehe
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mine open their eye on the 11th day smile.gif . Today is the 13th day and all open eyes already.

QUOTE(TechUsb @ Sep 23 2011, 05:56 PM)
today i saw my hamster yawn...her teeth is damn long n sharp...how to shorten it....she din bite anything inside the cage..even her bowl or house...and my cage is Ovo....i gt hard food for her...but she quite selective, she doesnt choose the hard food to eat...left there only...very sombong also...  smile.gif
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u can buy some wood toy. I use that and my hamsters bite on it. Or buy mineral rock for them.

QUOTE(xiaofer @ Sep 24 2011, 01:02 AM)
Hi there, my two Robo is turning 8 months soon.I wondering usually hamster will breed very fast but Im kinda worry bout my hammy.Is there anything wrong with them?I have checked both of them are diff sex.How?
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They said that robo are hardest to breed, they only breed in springtime . so its best if u make the temperature same as overseas springtime or smth.



Here are my cute little babies <3. Trying to eat superworm and just opened eyes.

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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 24 2011, 09:49 AM)
mine open their eye on the 11th day smile.gif . Today is the 13th day and all open eyes already.
u can buy some wood toy. I use that and my hamsters bite on it. Or buy mineral rock for them.
They said that robo are hardest to breed, they only breed in springtime . so its best if u make the temperature same as overseas springtime or smth.
Here are my cute little babies <3. Trying to eat superworm and just opened eyes.

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Awww.. so cute.. wub.gif
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yup bought d, he like to grid his teeth on it laugh.gif

try not to fed worms to babies...the worms sometimes can bite...especially superworm but i think the 1 in your picture is mealworm hmm.gif superworm looks more bigger leh...
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the superworm , the mama bite the head off , then it died. then the baby go rampas it from mama @@
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Yours is mealworm..superworms is like appoximately 2 inch long..i cut the mealworms in half for the babies..that will make sure the babies not hurt by the mealworms...

My gf kidnapped my Choki(male golden winter white)... sad.gif really miss him golek2 on his wheel..
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QUOTE(cyberheross @ Sep 23 2011, 02:07 AM)
Well,usually mine will open their eyes in between 2 to 3 weeks.
After that,they will be VERY active in the cage, running around.
After around 25 days, should be ready to let go.

I'm thinking of letting go 1 of my WW pearl female as she haven't give birth until now. smile.gif
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i see.. then i think next week any day the babies will open their eyes already. I can see them start moving with eye close, have fur like the dad, and eat some oat too =)

Ic.. if she dont breed its ok, just take care of her. Maybe its not mature enough yet =)




Oh ya, anyone can suggest easy to find healthy food for hamster? Because basically im feeding them with oat, and some mixture of hamster food in a bag bought from pet store. I see u guys feeding them with worms, any additional advice from u guys? icon_rolleyes.gif
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I feed my hammies with cashew nuts...its good for us(human), must be good for them too... smile.gif my hammies love it too biggrin.gif
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hello, my syrian babies is born almost 2 full weeks and tomorrow is 3rd week. They yet to open their eyes but grown fur already.

Q: can i clean their cage now? The cage is terrible with the pee smell. But im afraid at this stage if i touch the babies the mom will eat the babies. Need some advice here whether i am allow to clean it. Afraid they environment for the babies will be over dirty and get infection.

thanks

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QUOTE(noruddin @ Sep 25 2011, 03:53 AM)
Yours is mealworm..superworms is like appoximately 2 inch long..i cut the mealworms in half for the babies..that will make sure the babies not hurt by the mealworms...

My gf kidnapped my Choki(male golden winter white)... sad.gif really miss him golek2 on his wheel..
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i do know the difference between a superworm and mealworm. It is indeed a superworm. When its head gets chewed off by mama , they will shrink a little.

And i give the mama smaller size superworm because the bigger size one are for my hedgehog.

QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 25 2011, 08:53 AM)
i see.. then i think next week any day the babies will open their eyes already. I can see them start moving with eye close, have fur like the dad, and eat some oat too =)

Ic.. if she dont breed its ok, just take care of her. Maybe its not mature enough yet =)
Oh ya, anyone can suggest easy to find healthy food for hamster? Because basically im feeding them with oat, and some mixture of hamster food in a bag bought from pet store. I see u guys feeding them with worms, any additional advice from u guys?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Buy vitacraft or harry hamster. Harry hamster is more suitable for syrians , but i use that for my ww. With that , ur hamster will have a balanced diet.

I feed mine with worms because she's having babies . Worms provide more protein for her to supply milk to the babies.

QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 25 2011, 03:01 PM)
hello, my syrian babies is born almost 2 full weeks and tomorrow is 3rd week. They yet to open their eyes but grown fur already.

Q: can i clean their cage now? The cage is terrible with the pee smell. But im afraid at this stage if i touch the babies the mom will eat the babies. Need some advice here whether i am allow to clean it. Afraid they environment for the babies will be over dirty and get infection.

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Well it is safe to clean it. I suggest u to use a spoon , scoop out the wet bedding , then put in clean bedding.

When my ww was pregnant , she pee on the bedding so much till i was worried. That was when the pups were 5 days old. I just removed the wet part of the bedding and added in new bedding to mix with the old bedding.

I also added a toilet , and she only pees inside there which is more convenient to clean , and i put bedding inside , not sand. The next day , the toilet will be filled with pee. doh.gif
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regarding superworm and mealworms

yes, its a fact that hamsters are omnivors, so fruits and veggies arent enough for hamsters
they need protein
however, i think you guys seem to be going overboard with this
first off, hamsters usually get small insects in the wild, so giving them once a day is more than enough
also, there are reports that mealworms are difficult to digest, so dont give them to baby hamsters or elderly hamsters as it may cause digestion problems

regarding superworm
bigger isnt better
superworm and mealworm's nutritional value is almost the same
however, superworm have harder exoskeleton, this means that it would be harder for hamsters to digest
if you google up superworm, it is typically recommended for other animals, and almost never recommended for hamsters

in addition, mealworms and superworm can bite
if your hamster hoards a mealworm, you should either stop feeding.. or feed dry ones.. or crush the mealworm's head before feeding
cause if the mealworm bite your hamster's cheek pouch, there is a high tendency that it will bernanah

QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 25 2011, 08:53 AM)
i see.. then i think next week any day the babies will open their eyes already. I can see them start moving with eye close, have fur like the dad, and eat some oat too =)

Ic.. if she dont breed its ok, just take care of her. Maybe its not mature enough yet =)
Oh ya, anyone can suggest easy to find healthy food for hamster? Because basically im feeding them with oat, and some mixture of hamster food in a bag bought from pet store. I see u guys feeding them with worms, any additional advice from u guys?  icon_rolleyes.gif
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regarding food.
yeap. like i've said before, harry hamster can give to syrians.. vitakraft is good too
for syrians, it is recommended to give variety of their STAPLE food
not just variety in their supplementary food (fruits or veggies)
unlike many other animals who prefers familiar tastes,
syrian hamsters have been proven to prefer NOVEL flavours.
if possible, buy both harry hamster and vitakraft.. and rotate
10 days of vitakraft, 10 days of harry hamster, then back to vitakraft

it is NOT RECOMMENDED for you to come up with your own diet of staple food
unless you have consulted with a vet and a nutritionist
what you think may be good for them is just your thought
you do not know the dietary requirements of a hamster
at most, you may SUPPLEMENT their food with what you think is good

but do not attempt to feed only whatever you think is good
staple food is still a must


QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Sep 25 2011, 03:01 PM)
hello, my syrian babies is born almost 2 full weeks and tomorrow is 3rd week. They yet to open their eyes but grown fur already.

Q: can i clean their cage now? The cage is terrible with the pee smell. But im afraid at this stage if i touch the babies the mom will eat the babies. Need some advice here whether i am allow to clean it. Afraid they environment for the babies will be over dirty and get infection.

thanks
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i strongly recommend everyone here to start toilet training your hamsters
especially when you plan to breed

this is a common problem i hear in this thread
my hamster gave birth.. XX weeks already
damn stinky i scared if change then mummy kill baby
you should have read up and prepared for this by toilet training your hamster
so you just need to change the bedding in the toilet

it is also highly recommended that you use different bedding materials for hamsters toilet and hamster's cage
not bedding in both
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I urgently need someone to adopt my female pearl hamster..she seems cant adapt to live togather with kimo,my golden female..they live togather for about 4 months ang these past 2 weeks, she keeps bullying kimo..i dont have any more tank bcos my gf took away 1 of my tank togather with some hamster.. sad.gif

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A question:

I got 2 female hamsters, both are sisters from the same parents.

I breed them to 2 different family male hamsters, both got pregnant.
Female A + Male A
Female B + Male B

If i breed among the newborn babies, which means 1 from Female A and 1 from Female B, does it count as in-breeding?

Coz both females are sisters, but each male is from different family.
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still consider in breeding. Cause would have few similiar genes
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Hey all, I need to put my Bubu (winter gold) up for adoption because I'm leaving for overseas to study. Please check my post here in adoption thread.

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I have 2 winter white.. Male n female. And i think female is pregnant. But my problem is, found out the female lost fur at the black stripe (in picture below).

The male seem to have no problem with fur.

Is pregnant WW have fur problem?
If it is mites, it should attack both WW right?
Or its my female ww have sensitive skin with the bedding? Im using chipsi brand)

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I have 2 winter white.. Male n female. And i think female is pregnant. But my problem is, found out the female lost fur at the black stripe (in picture below).

The male seem to have no problem with fur.

Is pregnant WW have fur problem?
If it is mites, it should attack both WW right?
Or its my female ww have sensitive skin with the bedding? Im using chipsi brand)

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Did u change the bedding suddenly? Or did u use quite long time?
Maybe its irritation and the hamster bite the fur.
How old are they? It may be old age.
If its mites , it can attack both ww , but it depends.



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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Sep 28 2011, 11:00 PM)
Did u change the bedding suddenly? Or did u use quite long time?
Maybe its irritation and the hamster bite the fur.
How old are they? It may be old age.
If its mites , it can attack both ww , but it depends.
Before yes i change complete like 100% from old to new bedding. Just last night i change 70% and add 30% new bedding.

They are not old, got them from the petshop end of august still very smal. And i can see the size different from arrived home till now.

As for now i try to put less shop bedding n put more tissue paper. And i try to give vegetable too. Not sure if this gonna help.

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well maybe your hamster not suitable with chipsi bedding . What brand u use before and after? Did u see your hamster fight? Remember there are type of vege that not suitable for hamster to eat. Check up on the first post to check
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there can be many reason for that...bedding, mites, food...stress...etc...

try to check for mites first...u will need to throw the food and bedding and disinfect the whole cage. also need to separate the other hamster. if u think its bedding then i guess your hamster got some kind of allergy to chipsi bedding? when did this problem started anyways? right after u change bedding or what?

dont forget to take your hamster to a vet to get treatment, fur losing problem is quite serious if no action is taken. there are few cases in the internet where their hamster goes bald...
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My baby hamster escape from the cage. Omg I dunno how they escape but I'm lucky whenever I find it. One, when my dad lying down on floor something fluffy touch his stomach. Two , today I come back from tuition and it was at the window there. Scared me! And three , baby bleach escape to my antisocial gold cage and got bitten on the head.... I think can see bone... The skin can move..
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My WW that have fur problem (above) finally gave birth yesterday.

It was her first time, n my first time too. I was freaking out to see she playing the wheel while labor lol.

Anyway i can see 6 pups but she only keep 1 for now and eat the others. There are 2 i saw not moving when labor, looks like died during labor eh??

My cats never eat theire kittens. So looking at hamster freak me out again tongue.gif

Im not sure if this 1 pup gonna survive or not, so far day 2 now.

As for her fur problem, im thinking maybe that pregnant stressing her out and also the bedding. Need to try other type of bedding seem very hard to get, cos most petshop selling those look like wood.
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yup its hard to find good bedding...so far i still couldnt find any aspen bedding.....chipsi & delikate only i can find...the others all not good....

u can try delikate bedding if u want....many people got use that & are happy with it...i still havent try it...will try once my old bedding finishes...some say its better than chipsi...but that i m not so sure...i need to try it first
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foh meh...my opinion la la...chipsi is better...maybe just me...
coz from what i see since i just finish using delikate...
its sooo dusty every time i put new bedding and taking out the bedding frm tank...
and it stink fast tho..just my opinion la...so maybe i'll change back to chipsi..
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Oct 2 2011, 08:20 PM)
foh meh...my opinion la la...chipsi is better...maybe just me...
coz from what i see since i just finish using delikate...
its sooo dusty every time i put new bedding and taking out the bedding frm tank...
and it stink fast tho..just my opinion la...so maybe i'll change back to chipsi..
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The one i used before chipsi is this cheap apple brand.. I see that chipsi is softer..

Im sure what it meant by dusty. Is it like the smallest part of the bedding? If yes, then i found that in chipsi especially the wet pee part. Maybe it is because i crunch too hard when i put the bedding.

I bought my chipsi at pets wonderland and i think their hamster in the shop maybe used that too tongue.gif

Anybody use bedding beside wood type? Cos i heard some say using that cat litter that made from recycle paper?

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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 2 2011, 09:02 PM)
The one i used before chipsi is this cheap apple brand.. I see that chipsi is softer..

Im sure what it meant by dusty. Is it like the smallest part of the bedding? If yes, then i found that in chipsi especially the wet pee part. Maybe it is because i crunch too hard when i put the bedding.

I bought my chipsi at pets wonderland and i think their hamster in the shop maybe used that too tongue.gif

Anybody use bedding beside wood type? Cos i heard some say using that cat litter that made from recycle paper?
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recycled paper is breeder celect and b2b
also got woody pet which is wood pellets
i have manage to find the number of kaytee distributor in malaysia
was trying to find time to call them regarding kaytee aspen bedding
just couldnt find time.

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My hamster don't really like the bedding i gave them. They will just sweep it away. The bedding i gave them is the wood shaving. Don't really know the name because it is written in Japanese.
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Oct 3 2011, 12:16 AM)
My hamster don't really like the bedding i gave them. They will just sweep it away. The bedding i gave them is the wood shaving. Don't really know the name because it is written in Japanese.
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I read somewhere it is normal... For bed or home they remove the bedding.

If i give tissue, they will move the bedding aside and use tissue to make their home for sleep.
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its normal for hamster to put the bedding aside...haha mine also does that..
but when he feel cold his gonna enter inside his house n put all the bedding with him
bahahaha...cute!feel like snuggling him! snuggle snuggle snuggle! biggrin.gif

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I prefer newspaper pellet bedding, such as Carefresh. It's kitty litter, but it makes great bedding.

I want to have another hamster but my dad gets too emotionally attached to animals... sad.gif
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recycled paper is breeder celect and b2b
also got woody pet which is wood pellets
i have manage to find the number of kaytee distributor in malaysia
was trying to find time to call them regarding kaytee aspen bedding
just couldnt find time.

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hi all.. my syrian giv birth to 4 babies. 2 of them died within this few days. I saw there are like red-nose look. Afraid that the babies is infected with bacteria or anything harmful. I also afraid that its the mother who cause the death..

will too much of bedding will cause them suffocate from breathing? (because the bedding block the baby nose)

currently another 2 babies sleep outside of the cage. Shall i seperate the babies from the mother? They about 3 weeks old alrdy.

If i duwan let the mother to feed on the milk, which i dun think the mother will feed, is there any alternative that i can feed on to babies? planning to seperate the babies with the mother 2nite and put them into tofu fah box.

alternative such as: nutritious enough for syrian babies.

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hi all.. my syrian giv birth to 4 babies. 2 of them died within this few days. I saw there are like red-nose look. Afraid that the babies is infected with bacteria or anything harmful. I also afraid that its the mother who cause the death..

will too much of bedding will cause them suffocate from breathing? (because the bedding block the baby nose)

currently another 2 babies sleep outside of the cage. Shall i seperate the babies from the mother? They about 3 weeks old alrdy.

If i duwan let the mother to feed on the milk, which i dun think the mother will feed, is there any alternative that i can feed on to babies? planning to seperate the babies with the mother 2nite and put them into tofu fah box.

alternative such as: nutritious enough for syrian babies.
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buy formulated milk to feed the babies if u dunwan mom to feed it. But it is very troublesome coz u need to feed them every few hours.. What brand bedding u use?

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At 10 days or sooner they will begin crawling out of the nest. Their eyes and ears are not open yet, but they follow their sense of smell to find food. When they do this, you may want to begin feeding enough greens and fruits for them also, but chop them up in very small pieces to make it easier for them. If they don’t have that moist food and only eat their mother's dry food, they will dry up her milk supply, especially with a very large litter. They need the moisture from the fruits and vegetables as well as her milk. You will also want to make sure that the water bottle is low enough for them to reach it now.

Pretty soon, the babies will become rounder and fuzzier, and look more like hamsters. They can be weaned as early as 18 days, but it is better to keep them with the mother for 28-30 days. Males can be taken away a little sooner. These babies are 3 weeks old (21 days), and this is when I usually separate the males from the mother and the rest of the litter.


Just to let u know , i separated my male babies from the mother at 20 days old. Females at 23 days old. But it is winter white. I think u can separate ur babies from mom already. Have they opened their eyes yet?

Babies ready to let go! Please visit
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2046317

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Uploaded my 9th batch babies pictures into my thread.
Kindly view it thru my signature. biggrin.gif
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i dont think you guys are suppose to announce any sales thing in this thread.
even as a side note.

please be aware of this
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Oct 6 2011, 07:14 PM)
i dont think you guys are suppose to announce any sales thing in this thread.
even as a side note.

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I just said my latest hamsters pictures been updated into my thread.
Not making any sales here, just that too many pictures to upload, best to view in the thread itself?

No offense here, just wanna share out my latest hamster pictures with others.
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no offense to you either.. but i dont recall naming anyone.
BUT unless you felt you did something wrong, you wouldnt have felt that anyone was flaming you

just want the thread to not be about advertising and selling hamsters
but instead to share our experiences dealing with this chubby animals.
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hmm.. my winter gold hamster , despite i give it bathing sand and everything , her fur is so dirty oily like-ish..

My other hamster without bathing sand also more clean than her. pffttt..

What shud i do next? bath her? -sarcasm-
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Oct 4 2011, 11:08 AM)
buy formulated milk to feed the babies if u dunwan mom to feed it. But it is very troublesome coz u need to feed them every few hours.. What brand bedding u use?

Copy and paste from website.

At 10 days or sooner they will begin crawling out of the nest. Their eyes and ears are not open yet, but they follow their sense of smell to find food. When they do this, you may want to begin feeding enough greens and fruits for them also, but chop them up in very small pieces to make it easier for them. If they don’t have that moist food and only eat their mother's dry food, they will dry up her milk supply, especially with a very large litter. They need the moisture from the fruits and vegetables as well as her milk. You will also want to make sure that the water bottle is low enough for them to reach it now.

Pretty soon, the babies will become rounder and fuzzier, and look more like hamsters. They can be weaned as early as 18 days, but it is better to keep them with the mother for 28-30 days. Males can be taken away a little sooner. These babies are 3 weeks old (21 days), and this is when I usually separate the males from the mother and the rest of the litter.
Just to let u know , i separated my male babies from the mother at 20 days old. Females at 23 days old. But it is winter white.  I think u can separate ur babies from mom already. Have they opened their eyes yet?

Babies ready to let go! Please visit
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2046317
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i use chipsy bedding. I put the 2 surviving babies into shoe box, A4 paper as base, 2nd layer with tissue, then only i put bedding. For the greens and fruits, i tot that hamster will having diarrhea if eat these? Because they eat dry food i think.. can apple/ Cantaloupe/ honey dew suitable for them?

my hamster open their eyes since 3th week.. now i think almost 5th week d.

I do not know what happen when i put them inside box, 1 of them seems broken his leg. Then both of them now eyes like close again, looks like bleeding. My GF said their eyes is growing so they close it back.. can someone confirm me on this eye thing?


Added on October 9, 2011, 6:06 pm4 babies, 3 of them who looks most like the father, died. 1 died just now. left the 1 tat looks healthy, can run from me at least when i wan touch them. haiz..

first time have hamster babies then like that. haiz


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Anyone bought flying saucer wheel for their hamster? Do they know how to play it? I was planning to transfer my hamsters to the aquarium so I wanted to buy an external wheel for my hamsters. I saw one which you can bend the wheel to 3 different angle. Anyone buy that before? Is it good?
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Anyone bought flying saucer wheel for their hamster? Do they know how to play it? I was planning to transfer my hamsters to the aquarium so I wanted to buy an external wheel for my hamsters. I saw one which you can bend the wheel to 3 different angle. Anyone buy that before? Is it good?
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Well i saw before in petsmore , tried to 'run' on it with my fingers but didnt like it. of coz hamster will know how to play it. But i prefer using the Rm7.50 mini wheel with stand.

QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Oct 9 2011, 02:51 PM)
i use chipsy bedding. I put the 2 surviving babies into shoe box, A4 paper as base, 2nd layer with tissue, then only i put bedding. For the greens and fruits, i tot that hamster will having diarrhea if eat these? Because they eat dry food i think..  can apple/ Cantaloupe/ honey dew suitable for them?

my hamster open their eyes since 3th week.. now i think almost 5th week d.

I do not know what happen when i put them inside box, 1 of them seems broken his leg. Then both of them now eyes like close again, looks like bleeding. My GF said their eyes is growing so they close it back.. can someone confirm me on this eye thing?


Added on October 9, 2011, 6:06 pm4 babies, 3 of them who looks most like the father, died. 1 died just now. left the 1 tat looks healthy, can run from me at least when i wan touch them. haiz..

first time have hamster babies then like that. haiz
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Im sorry for u loss sad.gif. In a litter , u have to know that not all 100% of the babies will survive. Just like my hamster litter ,5 out of 7 of them survived. I am no expert in syrian hamsters , but whenever i go to pet shops , the eyes of the babies will mostly be closed. Dont worry , my first time having hamster babies , the mother eat all of them doh.gif . I was 10 year old that time , so blur about hamster.

About the greens and fruits , its okay if u give in small amount , not everyday . Its like we cant eat durian everyday right xD.

I guess u can feed apple. Not sure about cantaloupe or honey dew . I fed mine with apple. U can give them some carrots too , or u can take bread , soak abit milk and give ur hammie to eat.

Perhaps ur hammie was fighting with each other. Is your box too small? I heard that syrians are solitary and prefer to go solo.
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Im sorry for u loss sad.gif. In a litter , u have to know that not all 100% of the babies will survive. Just like my hamster litter ,5 out of 7 of them survived. I am no expert in syrian hamsters , but whenever i go to pet shops , the eyes of the babies will mostly be closed. Dont worry , my first time having hamster babies , the mother eat all of them  doh.gif . I was 10 year old that time , so blur about hamster.

About the greens and fruits , its okay if u give in small amount , not everyday . Its like we cant eat durian everyday right xD.

I guess u can feed apple. Not sure about cantaloupe or honey dew . I fed mine with apple. U can give them some carrots too , or u can take bread , soak abit milk and give ur hammie to eat.

Perhaps ur hammie was fighting with each other. Is your box too small? I heard that syrians are solitary and prefer to go solo.
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considering they are still babies i think they not ready to fight yet. haha.. nvm ba they died d better than they suffer. Nice idea on the milk and bread, would give it a try because im buying some milk as well.

the box i think not too small for the 2 remaining babies until that time, now is one baby only. Shoe box for our thumb sized baby syrian i think its enough. They sleep more than awake. =)

Anyway will find some forumer to buy second hand cage for the baby =)

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The thing is I can't find any cheap wheel. I need an external wheel. All I saw is RM15 and above. Need to search for more shop.
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The thing is I can't find any cheap wheel. I need an external wheel. All I saw is RM15 and above. Need to search for more shop.
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QUOTE(Chisinlouz @ Oct 10 2011, 10:52 PM)
considering they are still babies i think they not ready to fight yet. haha.. nvm ba they died d better than they suffer. Nice idea on the milk and bread, would give it a try because im buying some milk as well.

the box i think not too small for the 2 remaining babies until that time, now is one baby only. Shoe box for our thumb sized baby syrian i think its enough. They sleep more than awake. =)

Anyway will find some forumer to buy second hand cage for the baby =)
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quality wheels dont come cheap...if u want those cheapo wheels u can get cheap if u find at the right place...disadvantage about them is they are noisy...what is your hamster type btw? winter white?
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Help!!! I notice recently my robo hammy losing fur especially his both ears side.. others part is okay just the ears part.. Any hammy owner experinces the same problem?? unsure.gif
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Help!!! I notice recently my robo hammy losing fur especially his both ears side.. others part is okay just the ears part.. Any hammy owner experinces the same problem??  unsure.gif
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need some advice..
since uncle taro's smoothie has been discontinued, i found out the next best thing is Bugsy Instant HPW which is meant for sugar gliders...
is it ok if i feed my syrian with this supplement?
thank you.
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My WW that lost fur the other week started to grow fur back. So i believe its not mites eh.. And the male have no fur problem in same cage.

I realise my WW is more active at playing and messing around with cage n bedding than my robo. My ww food bowl always full with bedding bcos they play digging, but my robo bowl so clean with food properly. I thought robo more hyper. Is it true or depent on situation?
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QUOTE(elfreakz @ Oct 12 2011, 06:21 AM)
My WW that lost fur the other week started to grow fur back. So i believe its not mites eh.. And the male have no fur problem in same cage.

I realise my WW is more active at playing and messing around with cage n bedding than my robo. My ww food bowl always full with bedding bcos they play digging, but my robo bowl so clean with food properly. I thought robo more hyper. Is it true or depent on situation?
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I dont think it's a mite either as i'm cleaning his cage at least once a week & wash his wheel & every single toys as well.. The ears part i can see his blood vessel quite obviously.. Is this normal?? But i didnt notice any increasing in sctraching on him & there is no white spot jumping around too..

@ elfreakz
I think it's normal my robo too very particular with his foods.. he will keep his food bowl as clean as he can unless after he was in the bathing sand & straight away went to eat den the food bowl will have some sand. Ohh.. u can shred some tissue for your robo to play with.. My robo love tissue very much.. Everytime when i shred some for him.. He will bite it & run around playing with it.. & sometime will just make a circle to become his nest & sleep.

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will ur robo let u catch??....i have 2 robo....but they dun let me catch them..will run away when i wan touch them
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will ur robo let u catch??....i have 2 robo....but they dun let me catch them..will run away when i wan touch them
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Haha.. robo was quite the active type so at 1st they are not easily to be catch as they are not familiar with you. It take some time actually.. My robo was not easy to catch at 1st but then after a couple of time they will started to familiar with your smells & slowly u'll bond a relationship with ur hammy & automatically your hammy will noe u're the master. Now my hammy doesnt afraid of people anymore & he can easily to be catch.. He wont run away when u catch him.. He just will keep on stare at you & diam diam at your hands. That's why he was very popular among my bf family.. Haha everyone just love him. You might wanna need to catch him in a very gentle & slow way.. Dont do it in a rush you might scare them. Good luck on that !!!

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My WW that lost fur the other week started to grow fur back. So i believe its not mites eh.. And the male have no fur problem in same cage.

I realise my WW is more active at playing and messing around with cage n bedding than my robo. My ww food bowl always full with bedding bcos they play digging, but my robo bowl so clean with food properly. I thought robo more hyper. Is it true or depent on situation?
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Maybe its old age.

Dont worry , my ww love to dig too and their food bowl is always in bedding.
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QUOTE(Red Hawk @ Oct 12 2011, 03:07 PM)
will ur robo let u catch??....i have 2 robo....but they dun let me catch them..will run away when i wan touch them
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@ elfreakz
I think it's normal my robo too very particular with his foods.. he will keep his food bowl as clean as he can unless after he was in the bathing sand & straight away went to eat den the food bowl will have some sand. Ohh.. u can shred some tissue for your robo to play with.. My robo love tissue very much.. Everytime when i shred some for him.. He will bite it & run around playing with it.. & sometime will just make a circle to become his nest & sleep.
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Yes i give them tissue for both robo n ww and they lovin it.

My robo keep the bowl clean, and they go eat in the sand bath throw all seed waste in there... I can see kuaci around the bath box lol..

While my ww throw everyhing around ... Messy...


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Maybe its old age.

Dont worry , my ww love to dig too and their food bowl is always in bedding.
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Cool, now i can see their different type characteristic.. biggrin.gif

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My hamster is robo. Yesterday I was trying to tame them with the putting your hand face down on the surface for them to sniff. Slowly, they will come to your hand and sniff. I get to hold one of them for sometime before it try to run.
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Oct 12 2011, 11:42 PM)
My hamster is robo. Yesterday I was trying to tame them with the putting your hand face down on the surface for them to sniff. Slowly, they will come to your hand and sniff. I get to hold one of them for sometime before it try to run.
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My new bf damn care of this robo. She look super sick for so long but he take her to see vet , wake up at 2am and 5am every morning to feed her glucose water and medicine. Now she will auto come to him and walk up his hand. But she still dont like me haha
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ur bf indeed a good bf !!!

My gf told me,

A guy with a lovely heart is the guy who can take care of ur life ..

hahahaha
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Aw, thats nice. I guess even hamster know who treat them well. They will do the same.

I put my robo in their new aquarium but then they started to lie down on their stomach and stretch on the aquarium floor. Is it normal?
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For those who wanna adopt WW hamsters, let me know.

I'm gonna let go my hamsters since i'm graduating soon.
My location is Equine Park Seri Kembangan.
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Aw, thats nice. I guess even hamster know who treat them well. They will do the same.

I put my robo in their new aquarium but then they started to lie down on their stomach and stretch on the aquarium floor. Is it normal?
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My ww hamster does that on the wheel. Will lay flat and sleep on the wheel.


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ur bf indeed a good bf !!!

My gf told me,

A guy with a lovely heart is the guy who can take care of ur life ..

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female and female oso fighting ha?
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Woo, been with my hamster for 2 months now. T_T Still cant tame them.

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For those who wanna adopt Winter White Hamsters, i'm giving away all my hamsters...

Type of Pet: Winter White Hamster
Age: 1 Year +
Breed: Winter White Pearl & Winter White Sapphire
Sex: 2 Male & 6 Female
2 Male : Winter White Sapphire
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have your hamster ever fart guys?i doubt u can hear WW or robo fart..
but...i dont know weather its me or not..when i was looking at
my choco tank starring at him...i heard some fart sound...not loud..
or maybe im just day dreaming...hahaha...still would be funny enuf
if hamster do fart...im sure they do just we dont hear rite biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Oct 14 2011, 07:55 PM)
have your hamster ever fart guys?i doubt u can hear WW or robo fart..
but...i dont know weather its me or not..when i was looking at
my choco tank starring at him...i heard some fart sound...not loud..
or maybe im just day dreaming...hahaha...still would be funny enuf
if hamster do fart...im sure they do just we dont hear rite biggrin.gif
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i think all animals fart.

but to suddenly think ur hamter farting is funny xD
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Oct 14 2011, 07:55 PM)
have your hamster ever fart guys?i doubt u can hear WW or robo fart..
but...i dont know weather its me or not..when i was looking at
my choco tank starring at him...i heard some fart sound...not loud..
or maybe im just day dreaming...hahaha...still would be funny enuf
if hamster do fart...im sure they do just we dont hear rite biggrin.gif
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i think its possible...like what ix3Rukia said...all animals fart...so i guess hamster is the same also as they eat & poop like all other animal...but they are so small so their fart might be so tiny tongue.gif

i could be wrong tho...coz from what i know hamster digestive system is quite different & feeding them beans is not good smile.gif
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QUOTE(cyberheross @ Oct 14 2011, 06:41 PM)
For those who wanna adopt Winter White Hamsters, i'm giving away all my hamsters...

Type of Pet: Winter White Hamster
Age: 1 Year +
Breed: Winter White Pearl & Winter White Sapphire
Sex: 2 Male & 6 Female
2 Male : Winter White Sapphire
2 Female: Winter White Pearl
4 Female: Winter White Sapphire
Location: Equine Park Seri Kembangan
Contact number: 016-4927615 / PM
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interested but i cant take all of them because my cage is medium small only. 2 sapphire currently. can put 2-4 more max alrdy.. i at sunway anyway =)
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QUOTE(cyberheross @ Oct 14 2011, 06:41 PM)
For those who wanna adopt Winter White Hamsters, i'm giving away all my hamsters...

Type of Pet: Winter White Hamster
Age: 1 Year +
Breed: Winter White Pearl & Winter White Sapphire
Sex: 2 Male & 6 Female
2 Male : Winter White Sapphire
2 Female: Winter White Pearl
4 Female: Winter White Sapphire
Location: Equine Park Seri Kembangan
Contact number: 016-4927615 / PM
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Aw, I will love to have one winter white but your location is too far. But hope your hammy can be adopted by good owner.
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Oct 14 2011, 07:55 PM)
have your hamster ever fart guys?i doubt u can hear WW or robo fart..
but...i dont know weather its me or not..when i was looking at
my choco tank starring at him...i heard some fart sound...not loud..
or maybe im just day dreaming...hahaha...still would be funny enuf
if hamster do fart...im sure they do just we dont hear rite biggrin.gif
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i do hear it laugh.gif and gt smell... kuaci smell.. laugh.gif
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hi..anyone know where to buy accessories or food for my WW.. especially online shop.. :-)
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hi..anyone know where to buy accessories or food for my WW.. especially online shop.. :-)
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its better if u go pet shop and buy as it is much cheaper , and online shop need to bear to cost of postage fee , which is sometimes cost much more than the item itself.

If u still want , you can go to petshack website and check.
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Online stuff is cheap but by the time you plus the postage fee, it is more expensive than the one u buy from the pet store itself.

I have just went to Pet Safari in IKANO. Awesome. I saw baby robos. They are the cutest thing ever. Though one of them had an eye infection. All of the sibling was surrounding the poor thing.
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QUOTE(playerz @ Oct 15 2011, 02:18 PM)
hi..anyone know where to buy accessories or food for my WW.. especially online shop.. :-)
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I'm selling all my cages and accessories. You may check my thread. smile.gif

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2071876
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how do you guys get your hamster to sleep on the cooling plate? hmm.gif
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how do you guys get your hamster to sleep on the cooling plate?  hmm.gif
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i think the hamster will sleep on it itself if it want too. Cant force them to sleep @@
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my hamster is feeling hot so he sleeps outside from his house...the usual place he will sleep when he is feeling hot is under the wheel...i put the cool plate under the wooden bridge to give him that sense of "secure" since its dark....but he dont understand laugh.gif

then just now i change the cool plate to next to the wheel & move the wheel a little bit to the middle...but he still sleeps under the wheel instead of on the cool plate doh.gif hopefully he learn what it is & how to sleep on it or else i will feel like i wasted my money on it sweat.gif

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yea...my hammy sleep where ever they want..haha...and syrian dont need cooling plate rite?
they prefer warm place if im not mistaken...
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XD I love observing my robos. they will lie on the cool surface on the aquarium floor and flatten themselves.


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yea...my hammy sleep where ever they want..haha...and syrian dont need cooling plate rite?
they prefer warm place if im not mistaken...
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nowdays when its hot it can be really hot...plus even if i go to uni i leave my pc on...so hot weather + desktop heat my room can get quite hot...so i bought a cooling plate for my hamster laugh.gif i know he feels hot because he always sleep in the house no matter what...only in the afternoon when the sun is bright he will come out & sleep under the wheel where there isnt any bedding...if its raining or anything he will usually sleep in his house...
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 18 2011, 11:31 PM)
nowdays when its hot it can be really hot...plus even if i go to uni i leave my pc on...so hot weather + desktop heat my room can get quite hot...so i bought a cooling plate for my hamster  laugh.gif i know he feels hot because he always sleep in the house no matter what...only in the afternoon when the sun is bright he will come out & sleep under the wheel where there isnt any bedding...if its raining or anything he will usually sleep in his house...
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Oct 18 2011, 10:04 PM)
my hamster is feeling hot so he sleeps outside from his house...the usual place he will sleep when he is feeling hot is under the wheel...i put the cool plate under the wooden bridge to give him that sense of "secure" since its dark....but he dont understand  laugh.gif

then just now i change the cool plate to next to the wheel & move the wheel a little bit to the middle...but he still sleeps under the wheel instead of on the cool plate  doh.gif hopefully he learn what it is & how to sleep on it or else i will feel like i wasted my money on it  sweat.gif
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Haha..inferno urs case abit difficult.. i have a cooling plate as well.. but my hammy love it so much from the 1st day i brought. I put it at outside.. Evening when he sleep he normally will stick to the cooling plate like glue while nite normally he'll sleep inside his house. I usually clean his cooling plate quite often cos he'll make dirty it. Sometime i put the cooling plate & bathing sand inside fridge a while after that will put back into his cage. He will be so fun playing with the bathing sand as it was cold.. haha..

Btw, i just wanna ask sifu at here.. Can robo hamster stand cold?? i mean if i open my air-cond 21°c can my robo stand the cool?? but usually i put his cage under my bed but i belief it's still cold.. unsure.gif

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QUOTE(babybb @ Oct 19 2011, 02:57 PM)
Haha..inferno urs case abit difficult.. i have a cooling plate as well.. but my hammy love it so much from the 1st day i brought. I put it at outside.. Evening when he sleep he normally will stick to the cooling plate like glue while nite normally he'll sleep inside his house. I usually clean his cooling plate quite often cos he'll make dirty it. Sometime i put the cooling plate & bathing sand inside fridge a while after that will put back into his cage. He will be so fun playing with the bathing sand as it was cold.. haha..

Btw, i just wanna ask sifu at here.. Can robo hamster stand cold?? i mean if i open my air-cond 21°c can my robo stand the cool?? but usually i put his cage under my bed but i belief it's still cold..  unsure.gif

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Well , i dont recommend that . Robo are desert animals , so they are usually in hot places. And when it is at night , they stay inside the burrow. I guess u can keep it under air cond but not too cold . smile.gif
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Well, I have try putting my robo at an air cond area. They will burrow in the bedding or hide in the house. I think they are cold though. So i think they don't like it.
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yeah if they feel cold they will burrow them self in the bedding or cover their house full with bedding...thats an indication that they are feeling cold...plus u will notice their fur will be thicker if u use aircon often smile.gif

i usually set my aircon to 23-24...anything lower than 23 my hamster will feel cold...usually at 24-25 he is ok...and i used to 24 degrees already so ok la...not that hot or cold...plus can save electric brows.gif

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ix3Rukia: saw your other thread that day. Feel sorry for you that your pet and stuffs were given away.
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ix3Rukia: saw your other thread that day. Feel sorry for you that your pet and stuffs were given away.
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Thats good to hear. At least you can have your hammy back. Its sad that they are given away just like that. Some time even hamster get attached to one owner only.
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I managed to make my 6.5" wheel silent already. Instead of putting it standing on the tank floor i hang it. & the main reason why its noisy is because of the small tiny rubber material (that tiny blue color wheel) wheel at the back of the wheel. when it spins that generate the noise...so i removed that...

reason why i hang it is because without that small blue wheel, if i put it standing on the floor the back of the wheel are touching the yellow plastic which then generates another noise...so when i hang it somehow dosent touch it anymore & dosent make any noise....thats for my case la...you guys case might be different...maybe if u remove that blue wheel there wont be contact to the yellow plastic...then u dont need to hang it upside down... laugh.gif depends on your wheel i guess....

anyway i know its kinda hard to understand what i m trying to say...so i will upload some pictures to show what i m trying to say....i will upload by saturday if i m free tongue.gif

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zz..i juz go c pet shop at pudu..looking 4 syrian..they got syrian hammy corpse in 1 of the aqua..tink its juz a baby..so sad la

i ask the staff..then he said din notice dat..after dat he juz continue with his work..wat the.. man..no rensposible at all.. mad.gif mad.gif
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thats why always buy hammy from breeder instead of pet shop...
they dont really give a shet bout the poor little hammy >_<"
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markjohn - hey bro, I remembered that your baby ham was eaten alive right? Well, it happened to me, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW after this post (30 minutes ago). Really no idea what happened. :'(
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markjohn - hey bro, I remembered that your baby ham was eaten alive right? Well, it happened to me, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW after this post (30 minutes ago). Really no idea what happened. :'(
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Dont worry out of 7 babies , my hammie ate 2 of her babies. 5 remaining. Sometime it is too much for the mom hamster to take care of so many hamster , she needs protein to supply milk to the babies , so she eats the babies so other babies can survive.

OR

She's stress.
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sorry to hear that hublee91 =(
we can just hope for the best,prepare for the worst...huhu
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remember about the wheel setup i was talking about? here is some pictures & yes i know it looks ugly but the most important thing is its now completely silent! hehehe now i can sleep well at night flex.gif

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sorry uploaded late...was busy with assignments sad.gif

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Lol it's upside down haha
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hahaha nice 1 aswen...
how if i just take out the blue thingy n place it normally...
will it still make noise or what?coz dude i got nothing to support the wire thingy if i do it like that..haha
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I'm letting go both of my WW female.
And also selling 10 babies.
Let me know if you guys interested. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(markjohn @ Nov 7 2011, 01:01 PM)
hahaha nice 1 aswen...
how if i just take out the blue thingy n place it normally...
will it still make noise or what?coz dude i got nothing to support the wire thingy if i do it like that..haha
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u can try to take it out & test it. mine when i take out its still making noise because the yellow plastic wheel holder is touching the main wheel...there is some friction contact with each other....u can try...if no noise then good la...or else then upside down is the solution tongue.gif
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hi guys, i just bought 1 pair of robo last sunday. and today when i back home, just found out they got 4babies. i didnt know robo that i bought is pregnant. (pet shop didnt separate by gender)

now i put some tissue for them make nest. my robo put all her babies in wheel. so now i cant touch them at all for 2weeks rite? got 1 male in the cage, so far i didnt see any fighting yet. so hopefully the male will help take care the babies

izit ok if i stop the wheel from spinning? as the robo put her babies in it and making the babies rolling when she running. sad.gif
if i stop the wheel for few days, izit ok with them as they dont have space to run.

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just now i put the babies in a small box to use as their nest(use plastic stick, never touch the babies with hand). and i put some tissue .
they already put the tissue in the box.
izit it will make they ignore the babies? just now they happily running on wheel without taking care of her babies. one of the babies are outside of the box and they just ignore it.
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Not sure bout plastic stick but from what i know u should transfer them by grabbing some bedding in the cage along with the babies so their scent remain
The mom recognize the babies based on their scent
I will put some bedding with the babies now and separate the male ASAP!
Pls read this for more information
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hi everyone ~

planning to adopt back hamster..

anyone can intro me nice aquarium or any places that have NICE hammies around IPOH????... drool.gif
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QUOTE(megahertz @ Nov 9 2011, 08:14 PM)
hi guys, i just bought 1 pair of robo last sunday. and today when i back home, just found out they got 4babies. i didnt know robo that i bought is pregnant. (pet shop didnt separate by gender)

now i put some tissue for them make nest. my robo put all her babies in wheel. so now i cant touch them at all for 2weeks rite? got 1 male in the cage, so far i didnt see any fighting yet. so hopefully the male will help take  care the babies

izit ok if i stop the wheel from spinning? as the robo put her babies in it and making the babies rolling when she running. sad.gif
if i stop the wheel for few days, izit ok with them as they dont have space to run.
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First , dont touch the babies.
Second , take out the wheel , its dangerous for the babies. Even i took out mine when my hamster gave birth.
Dont have to use tissue! You need the bedding so that the mom can remember the smell of the babies. You can mix tissue with bedding though.
Dont worry , the mother dont take care of the babies 24/7. When i had the wheel when my hamster gave birth , i left it there for few days so that i wont disturb the mother . She will take care of the babies eventually.
And dont keep seeing them. This may cause the mother to be stress and the mother will eat the babies!
About the baby outside the nest , its okay. They wonder around. The mother will eventually find it and put it back inside the nest.

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Hi all.. Today 17.11.11 was a very speacial day cause it's me & my bf hammy "Hamtari" 1yrs old birthday.. Haha.. so happy can celebrate the 1st bday for him.. share some photos here..

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post Nov 17 2011, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Nov 11 2011, 12:21 PM)
hi everyone ~

planning to adopt back hamster..

anyone can intro me nice aquarium or any places that have NICE hammies around IPOH????... drool.gif
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u can try the petshop near folie folie. if im not wrong, the shop is called hup fatt. i think lar.. not too sure. but i know it is near folie folie ter.. a corner shop. i got mine from there. price is reasonable in terms of cages and hamster too. food as well. and hamster toilet. hahahaha.. i think i talk too much. good luck in looking for hamsters biggrin.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 1:34 pm@babybb : so cute. is that cake edible? i usually gave my hamster a special treat on her birthday every month smile.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 2:29 pmi feed my Syrian hamster with mealworms occasionally. but she is giving me a headache vmad.gif . She likes to hide her food including the ALIVE worms in her pocket before going to her hideout to 'hide' her food. ps: that is a bad hideout becoz it is open space and i can definately steal her food. Muahahahaha.. tongue.gif

The thing is, she doesn't kill the worm unless she wants to eat them. she doesn't eat worms that I killed for her! Fussy pot. rclxub.gif And of course, the ALIVE worms crawl around the cage and she is a little dumb to find those worms crawling around her cage. She only eats from her pile of hideout food. I self made the cage and it is huge. u can even fit two adult shihtzu puppies in there. so the worm is somewhere crawling, surviving, stealing her food and she cant find them. so every week when i clean her cage, I will definately find a few worms still ALIVE somewhere in her cage. And now, I have stop giving her worms already. But I can see that she really loves them. Any suggestions?

btw, i am pissed with her. she ate up all her 8 babies of her first litter. that was of coz 3 weeks ago. while my other hamster never eats any of her baby hamster that she has even in cases which i thought she will.

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@reila
Nope.. That cake was just a miniature fridge magnet cake that my bf brought for him. Haha..look quite real for me.. Aww..i wish it can be eat but unfortunately it cant but he seem to like that cake very much. Kept on looking & sniffing only but i took it out anyway might afraid he will bite on it as the plastic not sure safe anot. Oh.. what special treat that you give your hammy everytime his bday? Since this was his 1st bday didnt do much special tho.. just clean his cage.. buy that miniture cake for him to play.. Haha.. & also a little bit more sunflower seeds as usual only sweat.gif

As for your worm case y not consider give your hammy dry mealworms? But it's doesnt fresh as the alive 1 but at least you can less a fuss on the crawling worm.. Haha.. My hammy like to hide his foods inside his house but everytime when i wanna clean his cage he will know abt it & quickly store back inside his mouth pouch.. sweat.gif

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post Nov 17 2011, 02:56 PM

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@babybb, i gave her hello panda biscuit. strawberry flavour. only one though. coz i sked she cant take so much of that strawberry filling. but she enjoys licking onto the strawberry filling. and also a small bit of dog treats. haha.. and i will bring her out to the garden for a walk smile.gif

btw, has anyone tasted dog treats? i find them so wangi that sometimes I am tempted to try. but i never. hahahaha..

she doesn't take the dried one. my sis usually bought that for her hamsters and i tried giving her that but she left it at the food bowl for a week, which is telling me that she doesn't like them!

edit : i love how ur hammie reacts! lol.. so adorable.

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QUOTE(reila @ Nov 17 2011, 02:56 PM)
@babybb, i gave her hello panda biscuit. strawberry flavour. only one though. coz i sked she cant take so much of that strawberry filling. but she enjoys licking onto the strawberry filling. and also a small bit of dog treats. haha.. and i will bring her out to the garden for a walk smile.gif

btw, has anyone tasted dog treats? i find them so wangi that sometimes I am tempted to try. but i never. hahahaha..

she doesn't take the dried one. my sis usually bought that for her hamsters and i tried giving her that but she left it at the food bowl for a week, which is telling me that she doesn't like them!

edit : i love how ur hammie reacts! lol.. so adorable.
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Haha.. thanks reila.. It took about 1hour plus just to capture that few photos. Seriously he just wont sit still. Haha.. pity my bf, he was the 1 who in charge of the arrangement while i'm the one who ready with my fingers on the button anytime just to capture the moments. It's not easy to get him near the cake with the 2 stranger fella beside the cake.. my bf pulak put some sunflower seeds on the cake.. He sniffs it & quickly ate the sunflower seeds that the time i capture those photos. Haha..

Oh yea.. Hello panda biscuit can be a treat as well.. y i nvr tot of that? Haha.. i have to buy biscuits treat at pet shop for him but its not dog biscuits. Never give my hammy try dog biscuits oso.. Haha.. dun noe he like it anot. I once buy a strawberry pallet 4 him as part of his treat.. He doesnt like it oso.. no touch at all.. Just sniffs & then runaway. There goes my whole packet money.. Haha..
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QUOTE(reila @ Nov 17 2011, 01:31 PM)
u can try the petshop near folie folie. if im not wrong, the shop is called hup fatt. i think lar.. not too sure. but i know it is near folie folie ter.. a corner shop. i got mine from there. price is reasonable in terms of cages and hamster too. food as well. and hamster toilet. hahahaha.. i think i talk too much. good luck in looking for hamsters biggrin.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 1:34 pm@babybb : so cute. is that cake edible? i usually gave my hamster a special treat on her birthday every month smile.gif


Added on November 17, 2011, 2:29 pmi feed my Syrian hamster with mealworms occasionally. but she is giving me a headache vmad.gif . She likes to hide her food including the ALIVE worms in her pocket before going to her hideout to 'hide' her food. ps: that is a bad hideout becoz it is open space and i can definately steal her food. Muahahahaha..  tongue.gif

The thing is, she doesn't kill the worm unless she wants to eat them. she doesn't eat worms that I killed for her! Fussy pot. rclxub.gif  And of course, the ALIVE worms crawl around the cage and she is a little dumb to find those worms crawling around her cage. She only eats from her pile of hideout food. I self made the cage and it is huge. u can even fit two adult shihtzu puppies in there. so the worm is somewhere crawling, surviving, stealing her food and she cant find them. so every week when i clean her cage, I will definately find a few worms still ALIVE somewhere in her cage. And now, I have stop giving her worms already. But I can see that she really loves them. Any suggestions?

btw, i am pissed with her. she ate up all her 8 babies of her first litter. that was of coz 3 weeks ago. while my other hamster never eats any of her baby hamster that she has even in cases which i thought she will.
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Well , what i did for my hamster is i hold the superworm and let it bite it to death then only i let go. When my hammie was pregnant , i fill her bowl with hamster food and superworm everyday . And she got eat smile.gif.

U can buy treats like dog food/biscuit/vegetable for her. I give mine apple as a treat.
I dont suggest hello panda biscuit. Got contain milk and some hamsters cant tolerate human milk and get get diarrhea

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@ix3Rukia, ewww... i dun dare to hold those worms!! I find them very disgusting and geli and ewwwww.... I usually use a spoon to scope them and give it to my hamster!!

@babybb, totally understand how hard it is to capture a nice photo of a hyperactive hamster! hahahaha.. it is easier to capture when they are young and ignorant. when you make funny noises she will stand up and start listening. now that she is used to all sorts of funny noises she never pay attention anymore. haha..


I recently found out that my hamster is jealous of me doing pedicure. everytime i did my pedicure, she will come up to me when i let he roam around my room and bite my toe before walking off. warning bite.
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QUOTE(reila @ Nov 18 2011, 09:32 AM)
@ix3Rukia, ewww... i dun dare to hold those worms!! I find them very disgusting and geli and ewwwww.... I usually use a spoon to scope them and give it to my hamster!!

@babybb, totally understand how hard it is to capture a nice photo of a hyperactive hamster! hahahaha.. it is easier to capture when they are young and ignorant. when you make funny noises she will stand up and start listening. now that she is used to all sorts of funny noises she never pay attention anymore. haha..
I recently found out that my hamster is jealous of me doing pedicure. everytime i did my pedicure, she will come up to me when i let he roam around my room and bite my toe before walking off. warning bite.
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Or , she does not like the smell of the pedicure. Lol. The worms u need 'right' method for it to be hold or else it will keep twisting and try to bite ur finger T^T. Today , one of my guppy died and i take out and put on floor awhile , while cleaning the tank. Then when i look for it , the dead guppy missing. ( my hamster ate it while i let it run on the floor ._. yumyum protein )
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@ix3Rukia, so cute of ur hamster! hahahaha.. It seems like hamsters kinda love to munch on some meat.
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Hi guys. I'm kinda new to this pet. Just bought a long-haired Syrian hamster and currently i am using this type of bedding, http://chipsi-streu.de/cgi-bin/wPermission...t.shtml?navid=1. Is this type of bedding suitable for my hamster?
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my syrian very fat and lazy.. dont want to ex wor... how eh?? doh.gif
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QUOTE(BudakSimenXD @ Nov 20 2011, 10:24 AM)
Hi guys. I'm kinda new to this pet. Just bought a long-haired Syrian hamster and currently i am using this type of bedding, http://chipsi-streu.de/cgi-bin/wPermission...t.shtml?navid=1. Is this type of bedding suitable for my hamster?
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there are many types of chipsi bedding which is yours? if its for hamster then should be ok...packaging should look like this
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anyway i m using chipsi also, so far its good but i yet to try delikate bedding brand some say that is better...just make sure u change the bedding twice a week, other useful info all are available in the first page on how to toilet train, food etc...



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my syrian very fat and lazy.. dont want to ex wor... how eh?? doh.gif
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u cant force them to exercise, as long as they know how to use the wheel is ok already they will use it when they want to. My hamster always like to run on the wheel doh.gif . But if u really want your hamster to get some exercise then u can buy a hamster ball & put your hamster in there for few minutes to let them run in it & exercise. But bear in mind not all hamster like the ball (some might like it) coz i bought last time but my hamster end up sleeping & peeing in the ball instead of exercising so i sold it. since my hamster exercise using his wheel so i dont need the ball la....plus at night i will take him out & let him roam in my room, u can do that too but just make sure there is nothing harmful or dangerous & keep an eye on him. laugh.gif

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Yes mine is the same, written "Classic" on the packaging,I've read some of the informations on the first page, and found out that this thread is really helpful indeed. =)
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QUOTE(pandera999 @ Nov 20 2011, 10:30 AM)
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hamster are nocturnal, they may be using the wheel when you are fast asleep.
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Recently I have been taking care of my cousin's robo while they go outstation and I realized that they started to pile up all the bedding and even tear out some of the paper from the kitchen roll tube.

Are they building a nest or something? Because I think one of them is female and one is male. Is the female perhaps pregnant now?

My aunt said they were once fooled thinking that the robo was pregnant when after 21 days, nothing happened. So, now, I'm thinking if I should prepare for her.

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@Nekochan, it is kinda normal for hamsters to build nest. my baby boi build the best nest ever! u will be able to notice the tummy of the mummy hamster becoming really big and round few days before delivery. If u noticed that, then u might wanna prepare for babies biggrin.gif
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I saw the mummy hammy got nipples dy which was not on her last time. She's kinda big last time as well because she always steal her husband food wakakakaka. But now, I will keep an eye on it.
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Hi,wat an interested forum for Hamster..
I hv one WW,2male 2 female robos...
Really hope u all will share experience n knowledge with me coz im a newbie... smile.gif
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 23 2011, 11:17 AM)
Recently I have been taking care of my cousin's robo while they go outstation and I realized that they started to pile up all the bedding and even tear out some of the paper from the kitchen roll tube.

Are they building a nest or something? Because I think one of them is female and one is male. Is the female perhaps pregnant now?

My aunt said they were once fooled thinking that the robo was pregnant when after 21 days, nothing happened. So, now, I'm thinking if I should prepare for her.
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my single male hamster loves making nest using tissue paper and loves to horde food there
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Well i can say that she's pregnant because suddenly she got so large and i saw her nipples. So, pregnant? I think yes...Now im preparing her. Should I separate the male though?
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Nov 25 2011, 11:35 PM)
Well i can say that she's pregnant because suddenly she got so large and i saw her nipples. So, pregnant? I think yes...Now im preparing her. Should I separate the male though?
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Yes you should. After pregnancy , you may want to put in a small litter box there because the female will pee more than usual. I had to clean the litter box everyday when my female was pregnant! I use to put in bathing sand inside but it became all wet and soggy so i put in bedding so its not too wasteful and the next day , its fully soaked + have extra pee

Lucky my female didnt eat the babies although i everyday see her biggrin.gif. Coz whenever i see her , she will be excited , cause i have a superworm with me

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Aw man. my cousin hamster all afraid of people unlike my hammy. so i dunno if they will eat her babies or not. T_T i really hope not. Im finding a place where she wont be disturbed but i cant seem to find it in my cousin house. haiz...

gonna bribe her with some good food soon...but i dunno if she is giving birth soon or when.
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@ix3Rukia, photos of Chipppppp biggrin.gif One year old is still pretty active. Mine is turning one next year Valentine!
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The female hammy gave birth dy. Now im just worry about the babies. I hope she dont eat it T_T Im praying hard to see the babies in 13 days
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will upload photos of chip after spm haha. yeah he's still super active! He got a big cage all by himself now and dont even want to use the wheel lol.

Grats on ur babies! my robo hamster last time 4 months together also never pregnant sleep.gif.

Make sure u give her some source of protein like break soaked in milk or mealworms or some sort.

For safest thing , just put boiled egg white inside her food bowl.
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@Nekochan, congrats on the babies. Dont disturb her and I guess they will be fine. My fren has hers for almost 2 years together but no babies at all!!

@ix3Rukia, oh wow.. spm.. good luck with it! u just reminded me how old I am already! hahahaha.. spm is years back for me.
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LOL now the mother hammy took the babies to the wheel to sleep...She made a nest there. She really loves that wheel...

I gave her the wheel knowing that she has given birth so that she can run and lose some extra energy or anything but now XD She moved the whole nest near the wheel...Now feeding her will be hard. I put all the food and water there, farther away from the nest...Now...Gosh.
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Hi all,

My hamster is having problem now. His hand and neck is reddish in colour. Anyone know what is wrong with him or face this problem before? Also, anyone know of vet in or around Old Klang Road?


Thanks

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anybody knows reputable breeder for WW pearl...I am desperately looking for this baby... wub.gif
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hi all, i just bought 1 male 1 female WW afternoon....the staff introduced me "ALFAFA" correct me if i spell wrongly..and a bottle of "BENGY"body spray, "BENGY" cage spray too..and a bottle of multi vitamin (green liquid) which drop into the water tank..

any suggestion on all those stuff?...thanks


ooowwhh, one thing to be added..
the staff told me to feed them COLD water as well..im quite curious about this...somebody please guide me thanks.. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Dec 5 2011, 07:39 PM)
hi all, i just bought 1 male 1 female WW afternoon....the staff introduced me "ALFAFA" correct me if i spell wrongly..and a bottle of "BENGY"body spray, "BENGY" cage spray too..and a bottle of multi vitamin (green liquid) which drop into the water tank..

any suggestion on all those stuff?...thanks
ooowwhh, one thing to be added..
the staff told me to feed them COLD water as well..im quite curious about this...somebody please guide me  thanks.. biggrin.gif
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Well alfalfa is not necessarily for hamsters. Usually that i meant for guinea pigs and rabbits. But you can also feed them that. ( I had rabbits last time and give my hamster some hehe ) .

The bengy body spray also no need. Its just perfume for the hamster. The staff trying to korek your money only sleep.gif. Trust me , i have a bottle too.

It is better if you buy bathing sand + bathing sand box for hamsters because in the wild , they dont use liquid to clean themself ( except for licking their hands and wiping their fur ). Most bathing sand come scented , and make sure you dont buy bathing dust , buy BATHING SAND because it may cause upper respiratory infection to the hamster.

The multivitamin is okay. About the cold water , no comment. Just give them regular water enough. Rodents need to constantly eat to maintain their body heat. If you give them cold water , they will die of hyperthemia ( if i not mistaken this is spelled like this ) .


QUOTE(soekma88 @ Nov 30 2011, 10:53 PM)
anybody knows reputable breeder for WW pearl...I am desperately looking for this baby... wub.gif
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Aiyahh shud ask earlier sad.gif . I had a batch of cute babies. Now all sold >_<. I suggest you to buy from missdiana on pet store.


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Hi all,

My hamster is having problem now. His hand and neck is reddish in colour. Anyone know what is wrong with him or face this problem before? Also, anyone know of vet in or around Old Klang Road?
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Its better if u can take a picture. My hamster neck sometimes will pinkish colour , but that is because he plays with his water bottle and water touched his fur at his neck , thats why pink.


AND DONT GO TO ANIMAL POLYCLINIC AT OLD KLANG ROAD. THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO TREAT ANIMALS. MY GUINEA PIG + RABBIT DIED BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO TREAT THEM.

There is no vet around old klang road or taman desa that knows how to treat rodents. You need to travel a bit to find a good vet sad.gif

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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Dec 6 2011, 09:24 AM)
Well alfalfa is not necessarily for hamsters. Usually that i meant for guinea pigs and rabbits. But you can also feed them that. ( I had rabbits last time and give my hamster some hehe ) .

The bengy body spray also no need. Its just perfume for the hamster. The staff trying to korek your money only sleep.gif. Trust me , i have a bottle too.

It is better if you buy bathing sand + bathing sand box for hamsters because in the wild , they dont use liquid to clean themself ( except for licking their hands and wiping their fur ). Most bathing sand come scented , and make sure you dont buy bathing dust , buy BATHING SAND because it may cause upper respiratory infection to the hamster.

The multivitamin is okay. About the cold water , no comment. Just give them regular water enough. Rodents need to constantly eat to maintain their body heat. If you give them cold water , they will die of hyperthemia ( if i not mistaken this is spelled like this ) .
Aiyahh shud ask earlier sad.gif . I had a batch of cute babies. Now all sold >_<. I suggest you to buy from missdiana on pet store.
Its better if u can take a picture. My hamster neck sometimes will pinkish colour , but that is because he plays with his water bottle and water touched his fur at his neck , thats why pink.
AND DONT GO TO ANIMAL POLYCLINIC AT OLD KLANG ROAD. THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO TREAT ANIMALS. MY GUINEA PIG + RABBIT DIED BECAUSE THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO TREAT THEM.

There is no vet around old klang road or taman desa that knows how to treat rodents. You need to travel a bit to find a good vet sad.gif
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thanks for your comment.. smile.gif
however now the main and the only food for my WW is just the alfafa... is that ok?..

also, i can't really determine the gender of the hammie after do some research on the internet.. shakehead.gif
i afraid im having a two same sex WW...
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@CheeseBeT, if im not wrong, alfafa is the dried green vege right? I dun think it is enough for hamster by only consuming that. they are going to need more nutrition from a variety of food. u can check out the first page where hamster food is introduced. mix food is better as it provides more variety for them. u can also provide them some snacks biggrin.gif

u can check their bottoms, holes that are further apart are usually male. u may compare between the two of them. if one is further apart and the other is nearer, then u have a couple smile.gif else, they maybe a pair of "homo" smile.gif hehee
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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 6 2011, 12:25 PM)
@CheeseBeT, if im not wrong, alfafa is the dried green vege right? I dun think it is enough for hamster by only consuming that. they are going to need more nutrition from a variety of food. u can check out the first page where hamster food is introduced. mix food is better as it provides more variety for them. u can also provide them some snacks biggrin.gif

u can check their bottoms, holes that are further apart are usually male. u may compare between the two of them. if one is further apart and the other is nearer, then u have a couple smile.gif else, they maybe a pair of "homo" smile.gif hehee
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yea...the green vege that smells like TEA.. the staff told me that's enough... sweat.gif
by the way last time i feed my syrian mealworm, tofu, carrot and some other vege..

ya that's the way i found on the internet..but i can't really differentiate as both of them the distances of holes are similiar....

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yea...the green vege that smells like TEA.. the staff told me that's enough... sweat.gif
by the way last time i feed my syrian mealworm, tofu, carrot and some other vege..

ya that's the way i found on the internet..but i can't really differentiate as both of them the distances of holes are similiar....
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That is meant for 'snack' the staff lied to you. Hamsters should have staple diet of kua chi and pellets and stuff.

I suggest you to buy vitakraft or harry's hamster food for your hamster. Its abit pricey , vitakraft about Rm10 a small pack , harry hamster RM20 for big pack. I used harry hamster for mine.

Well dont give them too much vege ya. Later get diarrhea .

If both distance are similar means they are same sex lor. I was able to tell the gender of my baby hamster at 2 weeks old. Its quite simple actually.

Dont be afraid to have same sex hammies. This is better than having 2 different sexes.

Please remember that when breeding hamster , there are loads of hamsters out there which have no homes sad.gif . Also , the male and female can have problems with their mating organs.

My winter white female had 6 nipples. She had babies and there was a growth on her nipples look green and black like a big scab. Now she have 4 and a 1/2 nipples lol.

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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Dec 6 2011, 11:16 PM)
That is meant for 'snack' the staff lied to you. Hamsters should have staple diet of kua chi and pellets and stuff.

I suggest you to buy vitakraft or harry's hamster food for your hamster. Its abit pricey , vitakraft about Rm10 a small pack , harry hamster RM20 for big pack. I used harry hamster for mine.

Well dont give them too much vege ya. Later get diarrhea .

If both distance are similar means they are same sex lor. I was able to tell the gender of my baby hamster at 2 weeks old. Its quite simple actually.

Dont be afraid to have same sex hammies. This is better than having 2 different sexes.

Please remember that when breeding hamster , there are loads of hamsters out there which have no homes sad.gif . Also , the male and female can have problems with their mating organs.

My winter white female had 6 nipples. She had babies and there was a growth on her nipples look green and black like a big scab. Now she have 4 and a 1/2 nipples lol.
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but no point she lied to me leh... she can still GOREK me from buying other foods mah..and actually as she told me she's VET.. =.=

for the gender... i not really sure actually..i cant really find the SEX ORGAN of my hammie what can i see is just the anus..and she told me these hammie already 2months old..

ya i understand that breeding is not easy.. but i thought of keeping the adoption going as one day they will die.. and i already asked those staff they said they willing to take the babies..

1 more thing..is that possible that they will not having baby although we place 1F 1M in a cage?...

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I'm still having 2 Winter White female hamsters that are waiting to be adopted.

Please let me know if you guys wish to adopt them.
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but no point she lied to me leh... she can still GOREK me from buying other foods mah..and actually as she told me she's VET.. =.=

for the gender... i not really sure actually..i cant really find the SEX ORGAN of my hammie what can i see is just the anus..and she told me these hammie already 2months old..

ya i understand that breeding is not easy.. but i thought of  keeping the adoption going as one day they will die.. and i already asked those staff they said they willing to take the babies..

1 more thing..is that possible that they will not having baby although we place 1F 1M in a cage?...
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It is not possible to NOT have babies because male instincts tells them that they have to reproduce.

Its easy to sex hamsters. Male hamsters have scent glands. Here are some images.


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This picture here shows a adult male hamster. See the scent gland?
And also , male hamsters , u can see the penuz. It will have something ring shape and middle there got dot whereas female is kinda v shape.
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And here is a very helpful website for you.

http://hamsterhideout.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10517

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@ix3Rukia: does ur hammies eat everything in the Harry's hamster food?? I am feeding mine Versele-kele. Not a cheap hamster food. 20 bucks for only 700gram. AND MY HAMSTERS ARE BEING PICKY!! I wanna show them how pathetic is those petshop's hamster who only have green biscuit and dog food to eat!!

sharing my notti hammies who made a hole in my wooden cupboard.

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one of my WW died... cry.gif

i think most probably fight with the other one coz i saw many RED color thingy squeeze out..shit..

they never fight when they were in the pet shop.. and since i brought them back this monday they never fight too..

yesterday i was sick and not able to keep an eye on them until just now...haizz..

why is this happen?...they never fight before.. and they alway sleep together play together...

(FYI the food is more than enough)

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Hello guys! Long time didnt visit this thread...how is everyone hamster doing? Mine is sleeping like a pig in this hot weather laugh.gif

here some pics laugh.gif he is sleeping like he is dead... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Dec 9 2011, 11:15 AM)
one of my WW died... cry.gif

i think most probably fight with the other one coz i saw many RED color thingy squeeze out..shit..

they never fight when they were in the pet shop.. and since i brought them back this monday they never fight too..

yesterday i was sick and not able to keep an eye on them until just now...haizz..

why is this happen?...they never fight before.. and they alway sleep together play together...

(FYI the food is more than enough)
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well u can blame yourself for your hamster death. Clearly u didnt do enough homework before deciding to keep hamsters.

First of all why did you buy male & female in the first place? Did you have any intention to breed them? if so then are u sure you have enough resources to support them & the hamster babies in future as we all know hamster breed very fast. Plus to breed hamster is not an easy thing to do...u need to learn a lot before deciding to do so & a lot of attention is needed. If you cant pay enough attention on just both of the current hamster what makes you think u have enough time of the babies then?

Secondly ALFAFA is not for hamsters...good brand of hamsters food is listed in the first page. But you can give as snack or side dish etc...but you cannot make it as their main diet. Same goes of veg, fruits etc...hamsters are different type of rodents...we cannot assume they have the same diet as guinea pigs etc. ix3Rukia is right...body spray isnt necessary if u got bathing sand as bathing sand is more better compare to body spray but then if u are willing to spend for the body spray then why not? No harm to use it...just dont overuse it la..

There is no need to give cold water....just like us human...drink cold water everyday is bad for us...plus we wont die without cold water...i only give cold water to my hamster when i changed his bottle water...as the filtered water is stored in my fridge so its cold, when i clean his cage i usually change his bottle water with that cold water. Multivitamin is optional if u give your hamster proper diet...but bear in mind its not a replacement for proper diet. Just like us humans also...we take vitamins as supplement to our daily life, we wont die without it...but then we cannot just take vitamins & eat plain rice everyday huh?

The vet at the petstore(assuming she is really a vet blink.gif ) is wrong...not everyone knows what they are talking or some people just think they are too 'smart' therefore they will just give some rubbish advice or knowledge or whatever u call that. Not that i m saying i knows better than her but if u do a lot of research in the internet u will know that she is wrong. We all learn...we was all a newbie once...heck i spent dont know how many weeks on the internet doing my homework before getting my own hamster. Because its never fun to watch your hamster die when u dont know what is wrong or what to do since you didnt do your homework before deciding to keep the hamster.

& i just read your other reply about not having babies but putting different gender in the same cage. WHY did you buy male & female in the first place then if u dont wish them to breed? Should just get both females or males. Plus did you ever thought that since you bought both from the same petstore...there is a high possibility that they are siblings? This means if they do breed there is a chance where their babies when comes out will be deformed or missing an eye, leg etc...

This is clearly in the first page & it shows that u didnt bother to read before getting the hamsters.
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Well since u killed one of your hamster already...you should check the other hamster...if he/she is injured..bring to a vet & give treatment to it. Otherwise change the hamster diet to a proper hamster diet & keep your hamster well. Do read the first page as its full with tons of useful info. Good luck icon_rolleyes.gif


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@ix3Rukia: does ur hammies eat everything in the Harry's hamster food?? I am feeding mine Versele-kele. Not a cheap hamster food. 20 bucks for only 700gram. AND MY HAMSTERS ARE BEING PICKY!! I wanna show them how pathetic is those petshop's hamster who only have green biscuit and dog food to eat!!

sharing my notti hammies who made a hole in my wooden cupboard.
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hamsters are very picky indeed!! they eat what they like first...other foods some later...as long as your hamster knows that it is food he will eat it when he is hungry. But what i do is all the food that my hamster dont like eating, i will fed to my mealworms....then i fed my mealworms to my hamsters... laugh.gif in the end the nutrients goes into the hamster stomach instead of throwing it away tongue.gif

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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 9 2011, 04:58 PM)
Hello guys! Long time didnt visit this thread...how is everyone hamster doing? Mine is sleeping like a pig in this hot weather  laugh.gif

here some pics  laugh.gif he is sleeping like he is dead... sweat.gif
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well u can blame yourself for your hamster death. Clearly u didnt do enough homework before deciding to keep hamsters.

First of all why did you buy male & female in the first place? Did you have any intention to breed them? if so then are u sure you have enough resources to support them & the hamster babies in future as we all know hamster breed very fast. Plus to breed hamster is not an easy thing to do...u need to learn a lot before deciding to do so & a lot of attention is needed. If you cant pay enough attention on just both of the current hamster what makes you think u have enough time of the babies then?

Secondly ALFAFA is not for hamsters...good brand of hamsters food is listed in the first page. But you can give as snack or side dish etc...but you cannot make it as their main diet. Same goes of veg, fruits etc...hamsters are different type of rodents...we cannot assume they have the same diet as guinea pigs etc. ix3Rukia is right...body spray isnt necessary if u got bathing sand as bathing sand is more better compare to body spray but then if u are willing to spend for the body spray then why not? No harm to use it...just dont overuse it la..

There is no need to give cold water....just like us human...drink cold water everyday is bad for us...plus we wont die without cold water...i only give cold water to my hamster when i changed his bottle water...as the filtered water is stored in my fridge so its cold, when i clean his cage i usually change his bottle water with that cold water. Multivitamin is optional if u give your hamster proper diet...but bear in mind its not a replacement for proper diet. Just like us humans also...we take vitamins as supplement to our daily life, we wont die without it...but then we cannot just take vitamins & eat plain rice everyday huh?

The vet at the petstore(assuming she is really a vet  blink.gif ) is wrong...not everyone knows what they are talking or some people just think they are too 'smart' therefore they will just give some rubbish advice or knowledge or whatever u call that. Not that i m saying i knows better than her but if u do a lot of research in the internet u will know that she is wrong. We all learn...we was all a newbie once...heck i spent dont know how many weeks on the internet doing my homework before getting my own hamster. Because its never fun to watch your hamster die when u dont know what is wrong or what to do since you didnt do your homework before deciding to keep the hamster.

& i just read your other reply about not having babies but putting different gender in the same cage. WHY did you buy male & female in the first place then if u dont wish them to breed? Should just get both females or males. Plus did you ever thought that since you bought both from the same petstore...there is a high possibility that they are siblings? This means if they do breed there is a chance where their babies when comes out will be deformed or missing an eye, leg etc...

This is clearly in the first page & it shows that u didnt bother to read before getting the hamsters.
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Well since u killed one of your hamster already...you should check the other hamster...if he/she is injured..bring to a vet & give treatment to it. Otherwise change the hamster diet to a proper hamster diet & keep your hamster well. Do read the first page as its full with tons of useful info. Good luck  icon_rolleyes.gif


Added on December 9, 2011, 5:32 pm
hamsters are very picky indeed!! they eat what they like first...other foods some later...as long as your hamster knows that it is food he will eat it when he is hungry. But what i do is all the food that my hamster dont like eating, i will fed to my mealworms....then i fed my mealworms to my hamsters... laugh.gif in the end the nutrients goes into the hamster stomach instead of throwing it away tongue.gif
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what i know is that syrian can't be placed more than 1 in a cage as they will fight till death......

well i know dwarf hamster fight sometimes but definitely they are suitable to live together with others.....

but all this shit happened too fast...one of my housemate (i am living in hostel) told me she saw them just alright during 12am..

then another housemate told me she saw one dead at 1am..only took about an hour to kill the other....

do you expect me to sit there 24 hours just to make sure they don't fight?... rolleyes.gif

and for the ALFAFA....the VET told me it's enough..so i thought i might give it a try..but i plan to head back again this weekend to buy other food after some of the members here disagreed with what the VET said...

and please don't say i killed my hamster.....i don't expect this too be happened as well...

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QUOTE(CheeseBeT @ Dec 9 2011, 09:57 PM)
what i know is that syrian can't be placed more than 1 in a cage as they will fight till death......

well i know dwarf hamster fight sometimes but definitely they are suitable to live together with others.....

but all this shit happened too fast...one of my housemate (i am living in hostel) told me she saw them just alright during 12am..

then another housemate told me she saw one dead at 1am..only took about an hour to kill the other....

do you expect me to sit there 24 hours just to make sure they don't fight?... rolleyes.gif

and for the ALFAFA....the VET told me it's enough..so i thought i might give it a try..but i plan to head back again this weekend to buy other food after some of the members here disagreed with what the VET said...

and please don't say i killed my hamster.....i don't expect this too be happened as well...
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if u want to house two hamster together then u have no choice but to keep an eye on them most of the time...u dont have a choice...otherwise things like this will happen for sure...best thing u can do is minimize the chances of them fighting...introduce each of them together...let them get to know each other at young age, get a really big tank to house both of them & have plenty of food...best to put separate bowls & two water bottle, two wheel...

yes you are right...u can never place two syrian hamster together...if you place them together they will 100% fight no doubt. For WW in the other hand it is possible to place two together & it is possible for them to live with each other together but you are also taking the risk...any unsatisfied things happens & they will end up fighting. Thats why when that happens u need to be there to prevent further fighting or 1 of them will die. That is why its recommended to place them alone...i know few forumers manage to house two WW together...but some of them did faced fighting issues..but they was there to prevent unwanted stuff from happening.

only robo is suitable to place in pairs or more because they are more social so the chances of them fighting with each other is less....but of course there must be enough food, water & space.
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 9 2011, 10:31 PM)
if u want to house two hamster together then u have no choice but to keep an eye on them most of the time...u dont have a choice...otherwise things like this will happen for sure...best thing u can do is minimize the chances of them fighting...introduce each of them together...let them get to know each other at young age, get a really big tank to house both of them & have plenty of food...best to put separate bowls & two water bottle, two wheel...

yes you are right...u can never place two syrian hamster together...if you place them together they will 100% fight no doubt. For WW in the other hand it is possible to place two together & it is possible for them to live with each other together but you are also taking the risk...any unsatisfied things happens & they will end up fighting. Thats why when that happens u need to be there to prevent further fighting or 1 of them will die. That is why its recommended to place them alone...i know few forumers manage to house two WW together...but some of them did faced fighting issues..but they was there to prevent unwanted stuff from happening.

only robo is suitable to place in pairs or more because they are more social so the chances of them fighting with each other is less....but of course there must be enough food, water & space.
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well, i don't believe that for those who own more than one hamster in a cage they can really spend MOST of their time in front of the cage..as they also need to take bath or take meal or even sleep...if shit gonna happen..it take not more than 15 minutes...

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@CheeseBeT, im sorry for your loss. but hamster doesn't has feelings for another hamster. they don't love like a couple or a friend. My sister has a pair of WW too. the Mother actually blinded the baby girl when they grew up. and no, my sister didn't house them together. the baby girl was in the cage while the mother was out roaming around the room. it is always advisable to keep the principle of one hamster per cage. WW are small hamsters, u don't need a very big house like the syrian. oh ya, you may wanna try to get some mealworms for your WW smile.gif

@infernoaswen, oh dear, i wish my hamster could sleep like that! so that I can tickle their tummies. haha.. mine always make a nest and curled up to sleep. nvr seen them sleeping like that before. I stop feeding my hamsters mealworm already because they tend to rear mealworm in their cage. (-.-) Trying to get superworm but it is kinda hard to find them in my area.

@Nekochan, hamster grass? what is that?

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I saw it in some international site. They say you can plant those grass suitable for hamster and let them frolic around in there.
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hi...It has been a long time since the last time I visit here.... smile.gif

this is kimo..mother of 5 now... smile.gif
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these are my other WW...
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@CheeseBeT, its not entirely your fault that 1 of your hamster died...as u said, it happens so fast that u unable to prevent them from fighting...but next time remember this, if u are going to keep more than 1 WW in same place make sure u have enough space for all of them..make sure they feel cozy to live together...if they started to fight, be prepared to buy another cage/tank to saperate them..
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hi...It has been a long time since the last time I visit here.... smile.gif

this is kimo..mother of 5 now... smile.gif
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these are my other WW...
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@CheeseBeT, its not entirely your fault that 1 of your hamster died...as u said, it happens so fast that u unable to prevent them from fighting...but next time remember this, if u are going to keep more than 1 WW in same place make sure u have enough space for all of them..make sure they feel cozy to live together...if they started to fight, be prepared to buy another cage/tank to saperate them..
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i provide very big space...and they never fight...if i know they will fight at the first time..i surely would not place them together...

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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 10 2011, 11:03 AM)
@CheeseBeT, im sorry for your loss. but hamster doesn't has feelings for another hamster. they don't love like a couple or a friend. My sister has a pair of WW too. the Mother actually blinded the baby girl when they grew up. and no, my sister didn't house them together. the baby girl was in the cage while the mother was out roaming around the room. it is always advisable to keep the principle of one hamster per cage. WW are small hamsters, u don't need a very big house like the syrian. oh ya, you may wanna try to get some mealworms for your WW smile.gif

@infernoaswen, oh dear, i wish my hamster could sleep like that! so that I can tickle their tummies. haha.. mine always make a nest and curled up to sleep. nvr seen them sleeping like that before. I stop feeding my hamsters mealworm already because they tend to rear mealworm in their cage. (-.-) Trying to get superworm but it is kinda hard to find them in my area.

@Nekochan, hamster grass? what is that?
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where is your area? if subang jaya i know 1 of the shop that is selling superworm. laugh.gif cant tickle...if u disturb hamster sleep get prepared for your finger to bleed tongue.gif
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@infernoaswen, nope, i am from ipoh. the petshop i used to go only has mealworms. haha.. oh dear.. i will have cold war with my hamster if he bites me!! hahahaha... mine doesn't bite while i disturb his sleep. maybe he got used to it.. hahahaha...
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hi. just would like to know why my hamster keep sleeping throughout the whole day and awake for food then continue back to sleep. just bought it few days ago. hopefully some one can give me advice on this. afraid there is sth wrong with the hamster. ^^
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QUOTE(codenamew @ Dec 12 2011, 04:05 PM)
hi. just would like to know why my hamster keep sleeping throughout the whole day and awake for food then continue back to sleep. just bought it few days ago. hopefully some one can give me advice on this. afraid there is sth wrong with the hamster. ^^
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its normal...hamster will spend most of their time sleeping. They will sleep throughout the whole day & will be active at night. usually after 11pm they will be awake exploring their environment, running on the wheel etc...try waking up in the middle of the night or around 2-3am & see your hamster...he/she should be active at that time.

But since you just bought your hamster try giving it some time...it could be stress with the change of environment so it will sleep more & afraid to come out...after 1 week it should be normal with its new environment already smile.gif
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QUOTE(codenamew @ Dec 12 2011, 04:05 PM)
hi. just would like to know why my hamster keep sleeping throughout the whole day and awake for food then continue back to sleep. just bought it few days ago. hopefully some one can give me advice on this. afraid there is sth wrong with the hamster. ^^
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thats very normal...that how they live...they are only active late at night...
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Dec 12 2011, 04:15 PM)
its normal...hamster will spend most of their time sleeping. They will sleep throughout the whole day & will be active at night. usually after 11pm they will be awake exploring their environment, running on the wheel etc...try waking up in the middle of the night or around 2-3am & see your hamster...he/she should be active at that time.

But since you just bought your hamster try giving it some time...it could be stress with the change of environment so it will sleep more & afraid to come out...after 1 week it should be normal with its new environment already smile.gif
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oh.then less worry for me. i'm afraid there's sth wrong with it. so that means after 1 week only i will be able to place it onto my palm right?
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oh.then less worry for me. i'm afraid there's sth wrong with it. so that means after 1 week only i will be able to place it onto my palm right?
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yes but dont straight do that....do step by step...u need to tame your hamster first before carrying him. here are some useful links.. http://www.ehow.com/how_4500398_carry-hamster.html http://www.hamsterhouse.com/gizmothewonderfluff/taming.html

Just do a quick google on "how to tame a hamster" and a bunch of results will come out. To keep it simple the steps are to introduce your scent to him first, then fed treats to him using your fingers (sunflower seeds are the best as they love it but dont overfeed), let him climb on your plam, gently scoop him up with both of your hands.

Bear in mind that this steps all must be done after 1-2days..dont do everything in 1 go on the first day or else he might just bite you. Also while in the taming process he might still bite you...its normal..its their natural instinct...just keep him back in the cage & clean your wound..apply some medicine to disinfect your wound. Also another tip is to make sure your hands do not have any perfume smell or food smell because he might bite your finger. try to rub your hands & fingers against the bedding before doing anything...that way your hands & fingers will have the similar bedding smell. Also some say by putting your used shirt on the hamster cage will help the hamster to familiarize with your scent...i dont know if that is true or not but trying wont cause any harm. just make sure there is sufficient ventilation to the cage la as that is very important.

good luck...just be patient as taming takes time. The biting pain all are totally worth it...u can ask any member in this forum & they will agree i guess coz once your hamster is tamed u can play with him, carry & show to your gf etc.... hamster dont simply bite for no reason, there will always be a reason whether its scared, self defence or thinks its food. & try not wake him up when he is sleeping to train him as if someone disturb when a hamster is sleeping the hamster will be very grumpy. But not all la...those tamed hamsters might be less grumpy, like mine for example if i wake him up sure i give treats...so he knows if he bite me he sure wont get any treats

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@infernoaswen, (sunflower seeds are the best as they love it but dont overfeed). i noe right? hamster are suppose to love sunflower seeds!! but mine hates sunflower seeds. sad.gif i have to throw away those sunflower seeds in the mix food avtime.

@codenamew, when i first got my hamster girl, she is very young. probably 2 weeks only!! cruel petshop. and she only wakes up at 1am. I have to wait for her till 1am to play with her. If i were to wake her up earlier then 1am, she will just walk back to her nest and continue sleeping. so no worries. biggrin.gif

if ur hamster is aggressive and afraid of u, u may wanna try out this trick I learnt from taming hamster who is super duper afraid of human. provide him with enough water. but don't give him any food yet. try giving him kuaci from your hand. if he refuses to take, try again later. intervals of maybe half an hour? hamster gets hungry pretty fast i would say (because mine does biggrin.gif). when he cant find any food in his cage, he will then try to take the kuaci from you. then slowly, he will accept that u r giving him food, instead of harming him wink.gif the clue here is to make him hungry and take food from ur hand. still, u need patient. he won't take it from you the first few times.

some people may not agree with this method but i find it no harm. just sharing my thoughts biggrin.gif

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can i give my hammies rice?


Added on December 13, 2011, 6:26 pmcan i give my hammies rice?

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@infernoaswen, (sunflower seeds are the best as they love it but dont overfeed). i noe right? hamster are suppose to love sunflower seeds!! but mine hates sunflower seeds. sad.gif i have to throw away those sunflower seeds in the mix food avtime.

@codenamew, when i first got my hamster girl, she is very young. probably 2 weeks only!! cruel petshop. and she only wakes up at 1am. I have to wait for her till 1am to play with her. If i were to wake her up earlier then 1am, she will just walk back to her nest and continue sleeping. so no worries. biggrin.gif

if ur hamster is aggressive and afraid of u, u may wanna try out this trick I learnt from taming hamster who is super duper afraid of human. provide him with enough water. but don't give him any food yet. try giving him kuaci from your hand. if he refuses to take, try again later. intervals of maybe half an hour? hamster gets hungry pretty fast i would say (because mine does biggrin.gif). when he cant find any food in his cage, he will then try to take the kuaci from you. then slowly, he will accept that u r giving him food, instead of harming him wink.gif the clue here is to make him hungry and take food from ur hand. still, u need patient. he won't take it from you the first few times.

some people may not agree with this method but i find it no harm. just sharing my thoughts biggrin.gif
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oooo...that quite weird hmm.gif try opening the kuaci & fed him? maybe he is lazy to open it? laugh.gif

that tip might work...but just dont forget to fed him...or else he will starved...or if it didnt work for few hours might want to give him food already...or he might starved then lol...they love mealworms too but usually people will give mealworms after the hamster is tamed already...coz mealworms will shake...& if the hamster is not tame yet the chances of it taking mealworm from your finger & storing it in the pouch instead of eating it is higher lol...& we dont want them to store alive mealworms in their pouch...

anyways if they dont like kuaci like reila hamster then u can try to find & buy those dead mealworms that are coated for hamsters...usually around rm15 i think...it comes in a sealed packet...got hamster photo on it....its alex brand if i m not mistaken...its also good for those who feels yucky about alive mealworms... laugh.gif

fruits is also another great treats (but in small amount too)...grapes, pear, apple(they love apple too btw)...
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can i give my hammies rice?
i m not so sure about this but i did give my hamster 1-2 grain of cooked rice. he eats it & want more..lol but i didnt give...scared if its bad or got any side effects. i think if give 1-2 grain of cooked rice should be ok...just as treats or snack...dont replace it as their main diet. I gave my hamster coz i was eating rice in my room & he comes out coz nice food smell rolleyes.gif i also gave chicken before (i wont suggest to give to your hamsters coz i m not sure if its safe or not...but i think if in very tiny amount as long as no sugar, sos or fried chicken is ok? its just my guess....i m not a hamster expert...so i could be wrong...better stick to their main diet tongue.gif )
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Lol..last time i got a lot of hamster..about 15 maybe..the first time i bought 2..but all of thm already gone gave my frnds a bit and most it die..not a good pet keeper..really miss my hmsters..lol..bought it at pet wonderland small hamster with 3 line stripes at the back of it
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Today i went to kedai aquarium and try my luck for superworm. fortunately for me, they have it. and oh god! those superworm are fat and scary. im currently using pliers to pick them up for my hamster. scary shit.

@infernoaswen, i tried doing that. and i open those kuaci till my fingers sore already. so im like. if u dun wanna open it urself then dun nid makan d lar.. currently looking for a change of hamster food. i tried versele-kele and vitakraft already. and my hamster wasted them.
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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 14 2011, 12:01 AM)
Today i went to kedai aquarium and try my luck for superworm. fortunately for me, they have it. and oh god! those superworm are fat and scary. im currently using pliers to pick them up for my hamster. scary shit.

@infernoaswen, i tried doing that. and i open those kuaci till my fingers sore already. so im like. if u dun wanna open it urself then dun nid makan d lar.. currently looking for a change of hamster food. i tried versele-kele and vitakraft already. and my hamster wasted them.
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try harry hamster & see....i was supposed to try it...unfortunately the only place that sells it in subang i found was petsmore & when my hamster food (vitakraft) finished empire was closed because of that explosion & the branch that i saw selling it was in empire doh.gif the ss15 branch got old stock which was going to expire in 1month time laugh.gif so end up buying vitakraft again...

anyway if u can find harry hamster try that & see...i heard its good...just need to wait for my current stock to finish first laugh.gif
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Hello all hamsters owners, I have a bottle of sand bath that I wrongly bought for my guinea pigs...I am wondering any owner from Wangsa Maju/ Kelana Jaya would like to buy from me It will be on COD basis...goes at cheap price...interested can pm me...thank you.
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@infernoaswen, looking for harry food too wen i saw it on the intro page here. but so far i haven found it in ipoh. headache lar wen hamsters are so picky.

btw, does anyone got bitten by superworm before? do they bite?
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I saw mealworm selling in Jusco pet shop. I think its quite cheap. I havent buy it for my hamster but soon...XD

Recently my cousin hammy gave birth. I wanted to tame the baby but they are so skittish like the mom. T_T Feel like losing hope in training them already. Anyone have any idea how?

Can i clean their cage now?
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friends...i want to ask, is it normal if babbies born from pearl(white) WW and gold WW turn out to be agouti(black)@sapphire(grey),im not sure cause their fur is still growing..

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@Nekochan, i dun like finding parking in jj so i seldom go there. haha.. how old are they now?

@noruddin, they may. mine was born golden, and it then changes colour to grey when it grow bigger.
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@reila XD if you are going on a weekdays, theres a lot of space. Wakaka. You mean how old is my hamster? 18 days old.
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@Nekochan, even if i go on weekdays, i can only go after work, which is at night. usually night time quite a crowd there biggrin.gif at 18 days, u may change its cage if u wan to, if the mother isn't being too protective biggrin.gif wat kinda hamster u r having?
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aiks, i tried to handle my hamster and got biten. haha. by the way, i wanted to check with u all whether my hamster is ill or not. Today i realise my hamster keep vomit back the food which she kept in her pouch. Mostly are corns. While she is asleep, I can notice that she keep trembling/shaking after few seconds of interval. Any idea? Is she sick? thanks for the feedback
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QUOTE(codenamew @ Dec 15 2011, 12:18 PM)
aiks, i tried to handle my hamster and got biten. haha. by the way, i wanted to check with u all whether my hamster is ill or not. Today i realise my hamster keep vomit back the food which she kept in her pouch. Mostly are corns. While she is asleep, I can notice that she keep trembling/shaking after few seconds of interval. Any idea? Is she sick? thanks for the feedback
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that normal behaviour for hamster...they keep food in their pouch..if they dont like it, they will throw it away...hamster always shaking during sleep..
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My hamster is roborovski hamster. I just cleaned their cage. feel like taking the mom away. she is squashing the baby in the wheel. the baby followed her and she run on them. the poor baby was squeaking so loud
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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 14 2011, 04:51 PM)
@infernoaswen, looking for harry food too wen i saw it on the intro page here. but so far i haven found it in ipoh. headache lar wen hamsters are so picky.

btw, does anyone got bitten by superworm before? do they bite?
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i read online before yes superworm do bite...thats why its recommended to give hamster superworm without the superworm head...so meaning u need to cut their head off by yourself...if mealworms no need actually coz the head is quite small...but for those who hamster hoard in their pouch instead of eating it on the spot then its better to chop off the head too smile.gif


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aiks, i tried to handle my hamster and got biten. haha. by the way, i wanted to check with u all whether my hamster is ill or not. Today i realise my hamster keep vomit back the food which she kept in her pouch. Mostly are corns. While she is asleep, I can notice that she keep trembling/shaking after few seconds of interval. Any idea? Is she sick? thanks for the feedback
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its not vomit actually...hamster store their food temporary in their pouch...then later when they go into their home they will remove it out & store it & eat slowly which they like first...its normal...because in the wild hamster will go around here & there to find food..then if they found any they will store it temporary in their pouch & continue searching for more...finally when their pouch is full they will return back to their home & store it & eat slowly...they will hibernate if its too cold...they dont have hands so cant carry & instead of returning back to their home & going out again its wasting time & energy...thats why they got their own pouch in their mouth somewhere thumbup.gif

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Today i selling hamster to customer at my new workplace.

Stupid hamsters keep throwing their food out of the food pouch sleep.gif!
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LOL what hamster are you selling?
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Hello all hamsters owners, I have a bottle of sand bath that I wrongly bought for my guinea pigs...I am wondering any owner from Wangsa Maju/ Kelana Jaya would like to buy from me It will be on COD basis...goes at cheap price...interested can pm me...thank you.
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hi there, how much would that be?Can i have a look on it?tQ
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Hahahaha... did it scared ur customer? or maybe it is a way of telling you "since you are selling me off, im giving u back ur food"

I feel so bad for the superworm but my hamsters are loving them. =.=
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The babies hammy are bigger now but they are skittish...and here i thought they were getting tamer.
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QUOTE(Nekochan @ Dec 17 2011, 01:23 AM)
LOL what hamster are you selling?
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Lol , the hamster i was selling is winter white. I accidentally poked the food pouch and *bleugh* food all out.
The buyers were like OMG WHY IS IT VOMITING!
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Hahahaha... did it scared ur customer? or maybe it is a way of telling you "since you are selling me off, im giving u back ur food"

I feel so bad for the superworm but my hamsters are loving them. =.=
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LOL now that is funny. XD I remember holding my robo and I think i accidentally hold the part where his cheek pouch was and bluargh, all his food went out of his mouth. Poor thing...
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any ideas on getting a hamster to gain a little more weight healthily? I wan a chubby hammie biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif I have one particular hamster who is superb superb picky. Headache. rclxub.gif now, she doesn't even wanna eat superworm anymore. She gets fed up with food very easily. She loves dog treats and red dates. but I read that I cant feed her dog treats too much.


just sharing what i see the other day.
I was at the petshop, there is this family with two kids went to buy 15 females robo. when i heard their requests, I was like. wtf r u going to do with them and how r u going to keep them? through their conversation with the shopkeeper, they have not much knowledge on keeping hamsters because they don't even know how big a hamster can grow. the mother keeps asking about the size of the hamsters while the kids are there "shouting" the robos are very cute. the father then insisted on no breeding of hamster and wanted all of them to be females. what annoyed me most is their choice of cage. I cant believe they are going to keep 15 females robos in a SMALL cage meant for a max of 2 robo. let me search online for the cage. if i can find it i will post the link here.

http://hamsters85.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2002.jpg
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oh dear, sorry for my grumpiness.

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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 23 2011, 12:16 PM)
any ideas on getting a hamster to gain a little more weight healthily? I wan a chubby hammie biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  I have one particular hamster who is superb superb picky. Headache. rclxub.gif  now, she doesn't even wanna eat superworm anymore. She gets fed up with food very easily. She loves dog treats and red dates. but I read that I cant feed her dog treats too much.
just sharing what i see the other day.
I was at the petshop, there is this family with two kids went to buy 15 females robo. when i heard their requests, I was like. wtf r u going to do with them and how r u going to keep them? through their conversation with the shopkeeper, they have not much knowledge on keeping hamsters because they don't even know how big a hamster can grow. the mother keeps asking about the size of the hamsters while the kids are there "shouting" the robos are very cute. the father then insisted on no breeding of hamster and wanted all of them to be females. what annoyed me most is their choice of cage. I cant believe they are going to keep 15 females robos in a SMALL cage meant for a max of 2 robo. let me search online for the cage. if i can find it i will post the link here. 

http://hamsters85.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/2002.jpg
36cm X 18cm X 24cm
credit: http://hamstercages.wordpress.com/

oh dear, sorry for my grumpiness.
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Some pet shop seller just want profit.

When i sell the hamsters , i do recommend customer to buy in pairs BUT SAME GENDER.
I also tell them the right size , everything they need to know about hamsters , including types of food not to feed it.

This people really irresponsible .. I love animals alot , thats why i working full time after my SPM happy.gif.

And i enjoy teaching other people knowledge of what i know about other animals.

Its okay for them to not know much about the hamsters , but it is responsibility of the seller. They just want profit.

GRR NOW I RAGING DX
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@reila: I used to have one skinny robo while one fat chubby one because when i put food, the fat one took all. So in the end, I put the fat one in the ball for him to play while i feed the small one. after doing it for some time, there are the same size. XD I bought powermix from Pet Lover center and they love all their food there.

After i took care of hamster, i only know how to take care of them and that they need a lot of space.
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@ix3Rukia, I wanted to work with animals too. but my parents arent supportive of that.
@Nekochan, is that from Burp? I am trying it now. I just bought it last week. They doesnt eat the round thing and the kuaci. (T.T) i keep my hamster one per cage. so there arent any i-eat-up-all-the-food-and-leave-you-none situation. hahahaha...

still, i think it is common sense to keep 15 hamsters in a bigger cage than tat. haha..
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QUOTE(reila @ Dec 27 2011, 12:01 PM)
@ix3Rukia, I wanted to work with animals too. but my parents arent supportive of that.
@Nekochan, is that from Burp? I am trying it now. I just bought it last week. They doesnt eat the round thing and the kuaci. (T.T) i keep my hamster one per cage. so there arent any i-eat-up-all-the-food-and-leave-you-none situation. hahahaha...

still, i think it is common sense to keep 15 hamsters in a bigger cage than tat. haha..
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T_T All the babies hamster has been sold...T_T I miss them...
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I am superb mad with my hamster boi. i went on a vacation for two days and he bit a hole through his storage bin cage. he managed to knock off the water bottle and bit a very big hole for himself to escape. mad hamster. i wanna barbecue him already. and feed him to my dog. always so mischievous. *muka pissed*
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That is why its recommended to use tank as their cage setup as they have no means of biting it.

I used to use a metal bar cage...my hamster always bite the metal bar & the plastic which is part of the cage...then i changed to a 2ft tank...now he can't bite it already...
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I dont have problem with my robo. They are not much of a biter even if I put them in cardboard box, they wont even bite it to escape. XD
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My 1st pair of Roborovski juz delivered yesterday...
But sometimes the mother bring her pup running on the wheel...
I afraid it will hurt the pup...

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Congratulation. rclxms.gif Aw, looking at your pic reminds me when i have to take care of my cousin hamster robo. She was a first time mom and seriously, it drives u nut when she carried the baby on the wheel and fling them out the cage.

I took the wheel away though. and i dare not touch the pups so i put them in a very very silent, secluded area and XD They became full grown hamster. So cute.

Remember to feed the mom some hard boiled eggs. Dont change the cage though. the mom might reject the baby. You can search online on some help or you can ask me. I'll be glad to help.

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@infernoaswen,tank is too heavy and so not convenient for me to carry around. i stay in hostel. and i go back hometown during the weekend. i need to carry them back as i cant leave them in hostel for the weekend.

@Ronald_loulan,congrats on the babies. biggrin.gif

i scolded my boi and he acted all guilty. lying at a corner there. hmmph.. figuring a way to cover up the hole.


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Nekochan,this morning i found out the 2 of the pups were dead...
Haiz,dunno wat happen...
But same as ur case,the mom bring to pup for a ride/put them at the wheel n run them over... sad.gif
Dunno they can survive or not...


Added on December 31, 2011, 4:07 pmReila,my 2nd pair of Robo's did escape b4..
Im using a cage with wire at the mid section..
1 morning i saw them running around in the toilet n living room..
I was like "Wat? I locked the cage but how did they came out?"
I thought i had sleep walked n set them free...
But few days back i saw 1 of them squeeze through the wire section which were slightly wider coz last time i put the water bottle tips through b4...
The Robos r the true Escape Master... smile.gif

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aw man, i guess u have to throw away the wheel and if the mom is not there, take away the dead pup or if the mom will just eat it up later.

in the mean time, no sound or any disturbance. just feed more foods for them.
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Until now, still nobody wanna adopt my 2 female winter white... SAD
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NekoChan,I think no pups make through...
Didnt see any movement or sound today...
Yesterday oni saw 1 pup moving...
Haiz,i think this is her 1st time... sad.gif


Added on January 1, 2012, 9:38 amCyberheross,i think nowadays ppl hv Virtual Pet... smile.gif
Btw ur WW is still in good condition but now way more FAT! biggrin.gif

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Added on January 1, 2012, 9:38 amCyberheross,i think nowadays ppl hv Virtual Pet... smile.gif
Btw ur WW is still in good condition but now way more FAT! biggrin.gif
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You should play with her more often...

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@Ronald Aw, if the mother hiding it anywhere? Gosh...that's sad...Give a few days and see what happens later and is the father still in the cage with the mom?

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CyberHeross,she's too lazy lor...
Take her out n let her walk around...
She rest after few minutes of exploring... biggrin.gif

Neko,I think oni 1 pup survived...
Yes, the father is still there...
Should i remove him??
Coz i found some info that father will help mom to take care the pup..
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QUOTE(Ronald_loulan @ Jan 1 2012, 06:17 PM)
CyberHeross,she's too lazy lor...
Take her out n let her walk around...
She rest after few minutes of exploring... biggrin.gif

Neko,I think oni 1 pup survived...
Yes, the father is still there...
Should i remove him??
Coz i found some info that father will help mom to take care the pup..
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She's still that lazy ah?
Haiz...

By the way, it's best to remove the father once the mother delivered.
As he might cause her to get pregnant again...
You don't wanna end up like me having more than 10 hamsters at a time.
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You have to remove the father. I remove the father when i knew she was pregnant.

Aw, only one survive...have to take good care of the last pup.
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love this thread
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Thanks Neko...
Will keep update about the pup....

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I just saw my cousin hamster pup at the pet shop today. So sad...They still remember us as they sniff our hand. T_T I miss them.

A malay family has already bought the other 2. I hope they have a good home with them.

EDIT: I have a blog for my robo. http://cookieoncupcake.blogspot.com Do visit. XD tongue.gif

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Nekochan, nice blog there. I wanted to start a blog of my dogs and hamsters too. but i am just too lazy to update the blog. so i abandoned the idea. biggrin.gif
sharing my barbeque-ed hamster.

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Unfortunately,the last pup oso cant survive...
Mayb bcoz of the father....
Juz cleaned their cage n juz found 2 corpses...
Haiz...
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T_T That's sad. I guess is the father buat kacau or the mother is a first time mom.

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Just wondering did anyone facing the problem of vitakraft shortage?? I been waiting for he past 2 months for petsmore to stock up their vitakraft but everyday when i call each by each outlets they give me the same answer "havent". It's been 2 months already & i really cant find much pets shop that sells vitakraft. My robo reli particular about his foods.. once its not vitakraft he'll not touch it.. Haha.. sweat.gif
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Hmm, i havent try that type of food for my robo. I saw this brand in Pet Lover center in sunway that day.

There's one brand which look like this vitakraft though.

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Guys...I have a sad news...really sad one...

I'm going to move to a new house, and i cant keep that much hamsters, so i'm giving all of them away...anyone volunteer to adopt my hamsters?

I have winter whites n roborovskis.

NO ADOPTION FEES!!!! But please dont feed them to snakes D:
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^ sad to hear that. too bad I cant take in anymore hamsters. can't afford to care for so many or i will love to take in robo biggrin.gif good luck in finding a home for them!

@Ronald_loulan, sorry for the loss. u will be more lucky with babies next time. mine ate all her pups too during her first time being a mummy.

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Too bad i cant get permit to hv anymore pet... smile.gif

Thanks,reila... smile.gif

But the father keep grooming the mother,mayb he still wanna make her pregnant again... smile.gif
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^ shoo sweet of the papa.. but it will be better not to have her pregnant so fast. she is still kinda weak and needs time to recover.
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urgh.
cant find vitakraft nor supreme harry hamster anywhere.
only last resort is prestige if i still dont find it soon
please let me know if you guys can find vitakraft or supreme harry hamster

went to this pet shop today and was overjoyed when i saw supreme harry hamster for sale
checked the expiry date. DECEMBER 2011.
told the sales assistant. she told me "hamster tak apa punya makan expired food pun sama saja"
"boss akan bagi you 50 - 90% discount kalau nak"

remember to check expiry date guys as one pack of food will typically last our furry mates approx 50 to 70 days
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^ maybe the shopkeepers are too busy to restock the food. after CNY maybe only they will restock them. u can ask them when they will restock their supplies, some will kindly tell u.
i agree that most ppl owes think that animals can eat expiry food. whatever that expires in the house goes to the dog bowl. doesn't surprised me to find the sale assistant saying that. if u really cant get them n u need it already, u may wanna try burp biggrin.gif
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personally i dont recommend burp.
its PLC's in house brand.. cheap.. and i heard the food a lot of colouring
if i cant find vitakraft and harry hamster, my 3rd choice will be prestige.
apparently got this brand called jr farm.
will try to find that too.
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How about Delikate??
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delikate also not good.. alot of colouring and processed stuff
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I thought burp was quite good. my hamster loves all da food there. I went to plc in singaore n they hv so many hamster goodies u cnt find in msia.
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burp has more varieties in singapore cause plc is a bigger shop in singapore.

but even hamster lovers in singapore arent buying burp for their hamsters despite the wide range of variety.

they even prefer to purchase marukan than burp
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come i sell vitakraft to u happy.gif ... i working at pet shop there haha.

I everyday handle hamsters , but they cant compare to my little one at home because he will come to me when i call him to come happy.gif.

@the guy with dead robo babies , sorry to hear that. But u should have google on how to take care of the babies before doing anything.

BTW ; scary things happen in pet shop.. That day wanted to take out a ww , look behind the wheel got few hamster eating the friend... alot blood half body gone , can see intestines...

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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Jan 8 2012, 12:08 AM)
come i sell vitakraft to u happy.gif ... i working at pet shop there haha.

I everyday handle hamsters , but they cant compare to my little one at home because he will come to me when i call him to come happy.gif.

@the guy with dead robo babies , sorry to hear that. But u should have google on how to take care of the babies before doing anything.

BTW ; scary things happen in pet shop.. That day wanted to take out a ww , look behind the wheel got few hamster eating the friend... alot blood half body gone , can see intestines...
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which line of vitakraft and how much?
which pet shop?
thank you so much smile.gif
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OMG Rukiax... Cannibalism? Is the pet shop not feeding them enough?
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How come hamster eating his fren???
Or mayb his rival???
Fighting for space/female??
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Happy new year guys...(yes i know its quite late to wish now :-P
dafuq! hamsters eating their friend?

Try the petshop in sunway pyramid. i got my vitakraft from there few months ago. i was also finding...went to petsmore but theirs was going to expire soon...then went to sunway & found it...i think its new stock because expire date is quite long & i never see them selling vitakraft before.

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Ahh... dunno which line of vitakraft. Its in german LOL.

Nilufar at the scott garden old klang road ( tesco there )

I feed them ALOT. But there is one bully who 'likes the taste of blood' will attack the weakest and eat them alive..

True story. Experienced it today he bite the poor guy. sad.gif ... Punished him *smacks head*

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^ i saw cannibals too at a petshop here in ipoh. half eaten body lying there. Syrian hamsters. so scary. Initially wanted to get a hamster then, but it totally turn me off and i didn't get one. Felt so bad that day.
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Gosh, syrian...I dont really like them. I prefer robos. XD they are not much of a biter.
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biter? i thought the smaller hamsters are more of a biter. haha.. i like syrians becoz they are big enof for me to hold them and pinch their cheeks. hahahaha.. i find small hamsters too fast for me to handle though they are really cute.
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The small hamster is fast but they dont bite as much as syrian. A syrian can bite through plastic to escape. The smaller one did not bite also.
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Haha,agree with Neko...
In a newbie but my 1st hamster were a pair of male robos(sibling)...
The bigger 1 were afraid of human,even some small noise will make him hide...
The smaller 1 were more friendly,i can handle him whenever i like n he will come to sniff my finger...
But sometimes they r really a big problem,especially when they run loose... biggrin.gif


Added on January 9, 2012, 8:52 pmI have 1 winter white too...
She was more friendly,slower n she will come to me when im around...
But the major problem is she pee alot...
Need to clean the cage almost everyday...
WW Maintenance vs handling robos....
I prefer robos... tongue.gif

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Robo is the best. XD They dun sleep so much and are more active.
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Most important,fun to watch... biggrin.gif

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never had robo before. but i find them really cute. esp wen they are so many of them together snuggling to sleep at the petshop. so adorable. but they run so fast! i bet i will be chasing after them in my room if i let them out to roam about. haha.. at least syrian is easier for me to catch back. would love to have robo next time biggrin.gif

btw, guys, this thread is going to need some photos smile.gif haha.. share some photos??
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My hamsters do these kinda thing alot...
Very Funny 1... biggrin.gif

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z72ZT5B7ZI
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im a winter white person happy.gif
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My WW is very tame,i dunno bout others...
I love to handle my WW more than Robos...
But i like to watch my robos coz my WW always sleep... biggrin.gif
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that is soooooo adorable!! my goodness i thought one of them will end up flying out!!


WW urines a lot. it is like. water pipe. hahahaha... one big puddle!

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My WW drink water alot...
almost 30ml/day...
Wet her cage too...
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haha.. tat explains their urine. once i was holding a WW and she just pee on my hand. =.=
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They instinct tell them to pee anywhere they 1...
Mine always pee on the wheel n she always soaked by her urine...
Btw any1 use Mousse Bath for their hamster b4??

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Hi guys. Im new in this hobby. Just bought 2 winter whites. One keep in my girlf's house, one in mine. Just wanna share with you all the horrible experience just now when I was buying them. They keep Robos and WWs in the same tank. And no one in the shop knew how to differentiate between them. But one malay guy sort of knew.

So we told him to pick a female and a male for us. And teach us how to sex them. He squeezed them up by pressing against it very hard and put them upside down very forcefully and rough. The hamsters were screaming and I couldn't even concentrate on what he was telling me at all. One of them kena until shit. Dont know if its due to fear or due to the guy pressing against it's stomach too hard. The guy even shook their houses and the hamsters fall out everywhere. He shook it those were mere objects inside! Really sim tia watching them handle their animals. -___-

But anyway, I'm really happy with the 2 WW's that I bought. They're really adorable and sleep alot. Hope to learn more from you all. smile.gif
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Jan 8 2012, 11:34 PM)
Ahh... dunno which line of vitakraft. Its in german LOL.

Nilufar at the scott garden old klang road ( tesco there )

I feed them ALOT. But there is one bully who 'likes the taste of blood' will attack the weakest and eat them alive..

True story. Experienced it today he bite the poor guy. sad.gif ... Punished him *smacks head*
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I'm gonna said thanks 2 u so so much 4 sharing the info 4 us. Today i went to the pet shop that u're working & i was almost jumped with joys when i saw vitakraft. Thank god my hammy no need starve to death anymore. Anyways grabs 2 packets of 1kg vitakraft..1 silent wheel..1 vitakraft fruit crossys treat for him. Its such a huge pet shop at there.. & the robos at there look really very healthy & clean. I bet the hammies at there are very happy with such a great environment.Will definitely go there again to in my stock & i can said bye bye to petsmore rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 11 2012, 09:12 PM)
I'm gonna said thanks 2 u so so much 4 sharing the info 4 us. Today i went to the pet shop that u're working & i was almost jumped with joys when i saw vitakraft. Thank god my hammy no need starve to death anymore. Anyways grabs 2 packets of 1kg vitakraft..1 silent wheel..1 vitakraft fruit crossys treat for him. Its such a huge pet shop at there.. & the robos at there look really very healthy & clean. I bet the hammies at there are very happy with such a great environment.Will definitely go there again to in my stock & i can said bye bye to petsmore  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(AverageBryan @ Jan 11 2012, 05:50 PM)
Hi guys. Im new in this hobby. Just bought 2 winter whites. One keep in my girlf's house, one in mine. Just wanna share with you all the horrible experience just now when I was buying them. They keep Robos and WWs in the same tank. And no one in the shop knew how to differentiate between them. But one malay guy sort of knew.

So we told him to pick a female and a male for us. And teach us how to sex them. He squeezed them up by pressing against it very hard and put them upside down very forcefully and rough. The hamsters were screaming and I couldn't even concentrate on what he was telling me at all. One of them kena until shit. Dont know if its due to fear or due to the guy pressing against it's stomach too hard. The guy even shook their houses and the hamsters fall out everywhere. He shook it those were mere objects inside! Really sim tia watching them handle their animals. -___-

But anyway, I'm really happy with the 2 WW's that I bought. They're really adorable and sleep alot. Hope to learn more from you all. smile.gif
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dun worry hamsters poop alot.

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[quote=ix3Rukia,Jan 11 2012, 09:35 PM]
well the cashier was me xD. I served you. You were the short hair lady right?

Ohhh so the cashier was you.. haha.. u're the long hair gal rite? Yup i'm the short hair gal.. Wow u have very good memory.. Haha.. anyways thanks for sharing if not i was still searching for the vitakraft like a mad lady. If you din share the petshop at here i dun even noe there a petshop located at there.
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apparently, the wheel that comes with the cage doesn't spin well. it gets stuck half way through the rotation and have to use more force to make it spin again. therefore my hamster wasn't able to spin it. any solution guys?
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QUOTE(AverageBryan @ Jan 11 2012, 10:24 PM)
apparently, the wheel that comes with the cage doesn't spin well. it gets stuck half way through the rotation and have to use more force to make it spin again. therefore my hamster wasn't able to spin it. any solution guys?
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no cos mine attached to the cage one. its outside one. so if i take out the wheel, there will be a hole there. and the cage is too cramped to put in another wheel. :\
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^ what kinda wheel is that? usually cages come with a wheel wer there is a knob behind and u can just fix the wheel anywer as long as there are metal bars. if urs is not that kind then maybe u nid to apply some oil like what babybb says. or u can check the connection of the wheel. sometimes bad connection causes the wheel to stuck too.

hamster does shit when he is scared. bcoz mine does. he shit while lying down wen i scold him biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(AverageBryan @ Jan 11 2012, 11:28 PM)
no cos mine attached to the cage one. its outside one. so if i take out the wheel, there will be a hole there. and the cage is too cramped to put in another wheel. :\
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try take some pics & post here...wondering what kind of wheel is that....anyway u can use baby oil, Veg oil etc...just avoid chemicals like wd40 etc coz its harmful for hamsters...


QUOTE(reila @ Jan 12 2012, 10:57 AM)
^ what kinda wheel is that? usually cages come with a wheel wer there is a knob behind and u can just fix the wheel anywer as long as there are metal bars. if urs is not that kind then maybe u nid to apply some oil like what babybb says. or u can check the connection of the wheel. sometimes bad connection causes the wheel to stuck too.

hamster does shit when he is scared. bcoz mine does. he shit while lying down wen i scold him biggrin.gif
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my hamster shit always stuck on his butt whenever i pick him up lol...

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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 11 2012, 09:47 PM)
well the cashier was me xD. I served you. You were the short hair lady right?

Ohhh so the cashier was you.. haha.. u're the long hair gal rite? Yup i'm the short hair gal.. Wow u have very good memory.. Haha.. anyways thanks for sharing if not i was still searching for the vitakraft like a mad lady. If you din share the petshop at here i dun even noe there a petshop located at there.
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Yeah happy.gif. Cause i remember somebody buying 2 packs , then i said 2 packs o_o? You said : yeah.

If u didnt list the items u bought here i wouldn't know xD. I wanted ask u what were u looking for when u enter but.. im training the new cashier -.- . Boss should pay me higher sad.gif ! I am in charge of dog hotel but i also go to pet section , fish section and cashiering . ishh.

Anyways hope ur hammie enjoyed the vitakraft happy.gif How many hammies u have? Buy so much Dx.

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QUOTE(reila @ Jan 12 2012, 10:57 AM)
^ what kinda wheel is that? usually cages come with a wheel wer there is a knob behind and u can just fix the wheel anywer as long as there are metal bars. if urs is not that kind then maybe u nid to apply some oil like what babybb says. or u can check the connection of the wheel. sometimes bad connection causes the wheel to stuck too.

hamster does shit when he is scared. bcoz mine does. he shit while lying down wen i scold him biggrin.gif
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this wheel is like attached through a hole the size of a water bottle's radius? and the wheel is outside the cage one. then got one hole for the hamster to crawl into.

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try take some pics & post here...wondering what kind of wheel is that....anyway u can use baby oil, Veg oil etc...just avoid chemicals like wd40 etc coz its harmful for hamsters...
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i'll take some pictures when i'm not too lazy la. but now its using its wheel as a scratching zone de. it goes there to scratch. i realized my hamster scratches itself alot. dont know why. did some googling and apparently, scratching with its back paws and licking its feet after scratching means it is itching. dunno why my hamster itching also.

and also, my hamster abit bitey. it either bites me or it avoids me. when it wants to sniff me, it will lead to it nibbling my finger then biting. if it doesnt sniff, then it will lansi with my finger. ==
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your hamster could be bitey because of its harsh treatment by the petshop you bought it from.
making him fearful of humans.
instead of pointing out a finger which hamsters can easily nibble and bite on, put your hand as a fist for him to sniff then he wont bite
also, you can try wearing a shirt to sleep then after that put it on your hamster cage so he can familiarize with your scent.

do not use baby oil, vegetable oil (best is olive oil) to lubricate your wheel is better because baby oil is not edible.
as recommended in the first threat, i also support using plastic fish aquarium tanks than using "hamster cages" as the accessories that come with "hamster cage" are poor in quality.
(i.e. leaky bottles, plastic bowls, insufficient place to put a toilet and toilet train your hamster)

scratching alot.. some hamsters do it as part of their grooming
hamsters are very very clean animals and will groom themselves
but if they groom too much, it is a sign of anxiety.
however, if it is scratching, he might be having mites
or allergy towards the wood shaving

to eliminate allergy as a source of his scratching, you may want to stop using wood shaving for a while and use tissue papers instead.
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Jan 12 2012, 02:32 PM)
Yeah happy.gif. Cause i remember somebody buying 2 packs , then i said 2 packs o_o? You said : yeah.

If u didnt list the items u bought here i wouldn't know xD. I wanted ask u what were u looking for when u enter but.. im training the new cashier -.- . Boss should pay me higher sad.gif ! I am in charge of dog hotel but i also go to pet section , fish section and cashiering . ishh.

Anyways hope ur hammie enjoyed the vitakraft happy.gif How many hammies u have? Buy so much Dx.
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Haha.. Yea cause everywhere were out of stock i been looking for it for quite some times edi & my hammie vitakraft supplies just left 1 week only so buy a bigger packs just in case.. I got 2 robo actually but both taken care by my bf cause my mum wouldnt allow me to have pets in the house cause she kinda dislike furry pets. I been feeding them vitakraft since they was a babies so any others brands they normally wont eat much. So sometime i will help my bf to buy some hammie stuffs for both of them cos 1 of the robo is mine blush.gif Haha yea i enter twice.. 1st i wanna buy a lotsa stuffs but then realize i might not have enough money so go & find an atm machine to press money. After that enter 2nd time but normally the 1st thing i do when entering a pet shop is to hv a look hammie section especially robo tongue.gif It's been a habit for me really.

Actually i wanna buy a few more stuffs also but then it's getting late so mayb next time will come over with my bf & have a look. And yet i still havent really walk thru all your section especially the dog section.. i kinda love puppies also. Wow really is multi-task.. u working as a part timer at there?


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sorry.. my WW russian.. pregnant again.. who want the babies?? i have alot.. so penat to jaga.. hehehe
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T_T My robo finally fighting with each other. I was so scare that this moment will come. T_T The small one was bitten till his leg bleed. Have to separate them now. I don't know why it happen. I read a lot of people with robos are having problem with them fighting. I thought mine will be different but now...I feel so sad that they have to be separated. I don't know what has change. they used to be ok.

Anyone got any suggestion what happened to them to make them like this?
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QUOTE(playerz @ Jan 13 2012, 07:41 PM)
sorry.. my WW russian.. pregnant again.. who want the babies?? i have alot.. so penat to jaga.. hehehe
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Errr...if its too many then shouldn't u stop breeding in the first place?

i didn't know veg oil is not edible for hamsters...
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Neko,isit bcoz 1 of them were pregnant??
Mine did that b4...
She bully a smaller male till the male climb up to the roof of the house to sleep n eat there...
I think better separate them for a while...

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hi guys,
do any of u know where to buy "sluis hamster menu" ? Last week I went to pet safari at Ikano n I didn't see any sign of it. ended up I bought "hartz bonanza" for my hamsters n its on 30% discount.
hope u guys can help!
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QUOTE(samm17 @ Jan 14 2012, 12:08 AM)
hi guys,
do any of u know where to buy "sluis hamster menu" ? Last week I went to pet safari at Ikano n I didn't see any sign of it. ended up I bought "hartz bonanza" for my hamsters n its on 30% discount.
hope u guys can help!
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I think i saw it before at pets wonderland mid valley but anyway you can call them up to double confirm before you go.

Pets Wonderland Outlet @ Mid Valley Megamall
Lot No. T-015A, 3rd Floor,
Mid Valley Megamall, Mid Valley City,
Lingkaran Syed Putra,
59200 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Tel: 603-2284 3388
Fax: 603-2283 6399

Pets Wonderland Outlet @ Great Eastern Mall
Lot No. 2A, Lower Ground Floor,
Great Eastern Mall,
No. 303, Jalan Ampang,
50450 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Tel: 603-4257 7088
Fax: 603-4257 2088

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Both of my hammies are male. So I dont think it is pregnant. I separated them now but I feel sad that they have to be alone now.
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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 14 2012, 12:52 PM)
I think i saw it before at pets wonderland mid valley but anyway you can call them up to double confirm before you go.

Pets Wonderland Outlet @ Mid Valley Megamall
Lot No. T-015A, 3rd Floor,
Mid Valley Megamall, Mid Valley City,
Lingkaran Syed Putra,
59200 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Tel: 603-2284 3388
Fax: 603-2283 6399

Pets Wonderland Outlet @ Great Eastern Mall
Lot No. 2A, Lower Ground Floor,
Great Eastern Mall,
No. 303, Jalan Ampang,
50450 Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia

Tel: 603-4257 7088
Fax: 603-4257 2088
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thanks for the info! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Jan 13 2012, 09:59 AM)
your hamster could be bitey because of its harsh treatment by the petshop you bought it from.
making him fearful of humans.
instead of pointing out a finger which hamsters can easily nibble and bite on, put your hand as a fist for him to sniff then he wont bite
also, you can try wearing a shirt to sleep then after that put it on your hamster cage so he can familiarize with your scent.

do not use baby oil, vegetable oil (best is olive oil) to lubricate your wheel is better because baby oil is not edible.
as recommended in the first threat, i also support using plastic fish aquarium tanks than using "hamster cages" as the accessories that come with "hamster cage" are poor in quality.
(i.e. leaky bottles, plastic bowls, insufficient place to put a toilet and toilet train your hamster)

scratching alot.. some hamsters do it as part of their grooming
hamsters are very very clean animals and will groom themselves
but if they groom too much, it is a sign of anxiety.
however, if it is scratching, he might be having mites
or allergy towards the wood shaving

to eliminate allergy as a source of his scratching, you may want to stop using wood shaving for a while and use tissue papers instead.
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thank you for really taking your time to reply all my questions. really really appreciate it. i just went to buy a new silent wheel, some wood gnaws and sunflower seeds. fixed the wheel, gave it sunflower seeds, put in a piece wood gnaw inside the cage already. so far its alot happier and is willing to climb onto my hand already. and im gonna change the bedding the next bedding changing session. thanks alot for all your help!

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QUOTE(playerz @ Jan 13 2012, 07:41 PM)
sorry.. my WW russian.. pregnant again.. who want the babies?? i have alot.. so penat to jaga.. hehehe
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yet another irresponsible act.
if you were not planning to take care of the babies, you should have separated them according to their gender
what are you gonna do if no one is willing to take them?
throw them away?
i hate these people because they end up giving them to young children who thinks hamsters are so cute but in the end neglect them and provide them with a poor quality of life


QUOTE(Nekochan @ Jan 13 2012, 09:18 PM)
T_T My robo finally fighting with each other. I was so scare that this moment will come. T_T The small one was bitten till his leg bleed. Have to separate them now. I don't know why it happen. I read a lot of people with robos are having problem with them fighting. I thought mine will be different but now...I feel so sad that they have to be separated. I don't know what has change. they used to be ok.

Anyone got any suggestion what happened to them to make them like this?
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haha thats why i prefer syrians xD
there are so much more journals and research regarding them to explain their behaviours

QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jan 13 2012, 09:20 PM)
Errr...if its too many then shouldn't u stop breeding in the first place?

i didn't know veg oil is not edible for hamsters...
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@first point: totally agreed!
veg oil is edible for hamsters, baby oil isnt
thats why i recommend using veg oil and not baby oil

QUOTE(AverageBryan @ Jan 14 2012, 06:59 PM)
thank you for really taking your time to reply all my questions. really really appreciate it. i just went to buy a new silent wheel, some wood gnaws and sunflower seeds. fixed the wheel, gave it sunflower seeds, put in a piece wood gnaw inside the cage already. so far its alot happier and is willing to climb onto my hand already. and im gonna change the bedding the next bedding changing session. thanks alot for all your help!
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you are most welcome
love responsible hamster owners smile.gif
*p/s: dont give too many sunflower seeds, use occasionally as treats, cause sunflower seed is fattening

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QUOTE(babybb @ Jan 13 2012, 10:32 AM)
Haha.. Yea cause everywhere were out of stock i been looking for it for quite some times edi & my hammie vitakraft supplies just left 1 week only so buy a bigger packs just in case.. I got 2 robo actually but both taken care by my bf cause my mum wouldnt allow me to have pets in the house cause she kinda dislike furry pets. I been feeding them vitakraft since they was a babies so any others brands they normally wont eat much. So sometime i will help my bf to buy some hammie stuffs for both of them cos 1 of the robo is mine  blush.gif  Haha yea i enter twice.. 1st i wanna buy a lotsa stuffs but then realize i might not have enough money so go & find an atm machine to press money. After that enter 2nd time but normally the 1st thing i do when entering a pet shop is to hv a look hammie section especially robo  tongue.gif  It's been a habit for me really.

Actually i wanna buy a few more stuffs also but then it's getting late so mayb next time will come over with my bf & have a look. And yet i still havent really walk thru all your section especially the dog section.. i kinda love puppies also. Wow really is multi-task.. u working as a part timer at there?
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Jan 15 2012, 12:02 AM)
you are most welcome
love responsible hamster owners smile.gif
*p/s: dont give too many sunflower seeds, use occasionally as treats, cause sunflower seed is fattening
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LOL shit i think i gave like 5-7 sunflower seeds de today. no wonder now so hyper active. i feel after i bought it the wheel, my hamster turn very fast motion. walk short distance also use sprint already.
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Video of my Hammies playing together.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVf5_iREJRk...3e0AUAAAAAAAAAA

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Hi, I want to give away a 2 ft glass aquarium. The bottom is cracked so can't be used for fish (unless you wanna seal it). So it would be suitable for hamsters or small animals.

Pls pm me if you want it. It is free. Thank you.
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Hamster cage for free.
No rust and looks new.
Condition 10/10.
Its a medium cage (double layer).
Free to those who are interested.
First come first serve.
Location: Cheras.

P/s I also have an extra hamster wheel. NEW!

All free.... Self collect.
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QUOTE(AverageBryan @ Jan 15 2012, 03:47 AM)
LOL shit i think i gave like 5-7 sunflower seeds de today. no wonder now so hyper active. i feel after i bought it the wheel, my hamster turn very fast motion. walk short distance also use sprint already.
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my hamster has a 2 feet cage for himself.

Till he does not even want to use the wheel anymore.

Poor old chip sad.gif . Getting older.
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QUOTE(ix3Rukia @ Jan 17 2012, 01:17 AM)
my hamster has a 2 feet cage for himself.

Till he does not even want to use the wheel anymore.

Poor old chip sad.gif . Getting older.
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maybe he is bored of his environment?
hamsters are curious animals and changing the arrangement of things in his environment, providing new toys for him, hiding treats allows them to stimulate their brains a little.
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QUOTE(*dReaM FaNtaSy* @ Jan 17 2012, 01:20 PM)
maybe he is bored of his environment?
hamsters are curious animals and changing the arrangement of things in his environment, providing new toys for him, hiding treats allows them to stimulate their brains a little.
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yeah..i got 2 cage with 2 different wheel..i always change the things between 2 cages and they always running around exploring the new environment!
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I constantly swap their cage...
Make something for them to climb like hanging toilet roll..
Mine like to stay in the hanging roll... smile.gif
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LOL can they climb on a toilet roll? Lol. That's awesome.

My hammy are now separated. I feel so bad for putting the naughty one in a small aquarium. The one getting bullied get the big cage.
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QUOTE(Ronald_loulan @ Jan 17 2012, 05:26 PM)
I constantly swap their cage...
Make something for them to climb like hanging toilet roll..
Mine like to stay in the hanging roll... smile.gif
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how u do that? mind to share some pic? rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
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move my hamster into a smaller cage. FINALLY he used the wheel ! and climb up the slide xD. Bigger cage using for my new sugar glider <3
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Aw, a suggie. can I see some pic?
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Will post pix when im free... smile.gif


Added on January 20, 2012, 8:50 pmBtw,i juz found out that the other female juz gave birth...
She hide those pups with many tissues in the bath house with bath sand...
Is bath sand ok for the pups??


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That I really dunno. But in the wild, robo live in sand. I guess it is ok.
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Agreed...
Hope they will survive this time....
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Yeah. better dun touch them and let it be. mother knows best XD
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I wonder why my hamster poops very mushy especially when I gave him sunflower seeds. at this moment I've stopped giving him. weird @_@
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Yeah,those pups were 5 days old...
Healthy n noisy... smile.gif

Samm17: Diarrhea???
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Haha. Back then when my cousin hammy gave birth, I wrote down their days so that I will know when I can touch them. was anticipating it. Lol. XD The babies will make chirping noise. Very cute.
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Yeah,those pups were 5 days old...
Healthy n noisy... smile.gif

Samm17: Diarrhea???
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diarrhoea? aiyo, cannot give him sunflower seeds anymore after this @_@
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Or maybe the sunflower seed were not suitable???
Perhaps should try other brand??


Added on January 26, 2012, 3:19 pmMine already 6th day..
Looks a bit furry liao...

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QUOTE(Ronald_loulan @ Jan 26 2012, 03:18 PM)
Or maybe the sunflower seed were not suitable???
Perhaps should try other brand??


Added on January 26, 2012, 3:19 pmMine already 6th day..
Looks a bit furry liao...
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is it got something to do with the brand? maybe I should give him vitamin drinks.Yesterday I accidentally put 1 sunflower seed in his food bowl n he got diarrhoea again.. @_@

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it is rare that dry food such as sunflower seed
it is more likely that it is due to some preservative, addictive, or chemical that the sunflower was derived from

usually diarrhea occurs when too much fresh food was given
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oh, really? em, maybe I sould try giving him another brand.. thanks for the info!
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no problem

cause usually when hamsters get diarrhea, advise people give is that stop all fresh food and give dry food to reduce the watery feces

good food brand are vitakraft, supreme harry hamster and versage lange prestige hamster (but recently there are complaints against prestige hamster where users found the food moldy)
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currently I give him " Hartz Bonanza " .. not sure if it's a good brand. my other hamster is ok with sunflower seed but not him.
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btw, what hamsters are yours?

most hamster food out there are made for syrian hamsters

actually there are many types of food that dwarf hamsters cannot eat.
one such reason is that dwarf hamsters are found to be more susceptible to diabetes
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mine are syrian.. btw u do know a lot about hamster ^^
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recently i came across with a dormouse video...check it out guys! now imagine your hamster doing that tongue.gif bwahaha


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^ OMG why so cute one?!?!?!
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OH MY GOD IT SNORES LOL *dies of cuteness*
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gerbil isn't it? Long tails..
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gerbil isn't it? Long tails..
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QUOTE(infernoaswen @ Jan 29 2012, 10:55 AM)
no..its a dormouse...another species of the rodent family...you wont be able to find it...its an endangered animal... sad.gif
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Endangered species? poor little guy.. sad.gif
Ohiki
post Jan 29 2012, 03:45 PM

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Hi All,

I have a question for hamster owner who kept hamster for over one year.

Do you feel that you fall sick every 3 months (average) with fever / flu / sore throat / cough ?

I am just wondering is due to the dry hamster poop that air born when I clean them and I might sniff in some sad.gif

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post Jan 29 2012, 11:47 PM

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^ wear a mask when u clean their cages. I do that. I have allergy but because I love animals so much, I still keep them.
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post Jan 30 2012, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(Ohiki @ Jan 29 2012, 03:45 PM)
Hi All,

I have a question for hamster owner who kept hamster for over one year.

Do you feel that you fall sick every 3 months (average) with fever / flu / sore throat / cough ?

I am just wondering is due to the dry hamster poop that air born when I clean them and I might sniff in some  sad.gif

Appreciate your response...Thanks !  notworthy.gif
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i dont think that is the cause...i havent fall sick for more than 1 year already...heck i dont even remember when was the last time i fall sick...but its definitely more than 1 year already...still healthy...probably think i am kidding...but i am not...maybe my immune system is good? or i just take care of myself tongue.gif

there are many factors of falling sick....i am not a doctor but i do know environment & food is important...drinking cold water everyday can cause cold...eating durian, cookies etc without drinking much water can cause sore throat...dont exercise also can make your body weak thus fall sick easily...& the list goes on...

what i am trying to say is hamster or their poop dosent cause someone to fall sick...first of all their poop is too tiny & its always covered up by the bedding (unless you dont put enough bedding)...secondly its odourless (well i cant smell anything)...and it turns hard like stone once its dry in few hours...plus their poop is actually not that dirty...sometimes the food which they eat isnt digested properly so they will eat their poop back again (yes i know its disgusting but what to do, they are like that)...

but i could be wrong tho... enlightened me if you found any info that hamster poop or hamster itself can cause sickness to human... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Jan 30 2012, 11:13 AM

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I agree too...
But is the best to ventilate the room/area well... smile.gif
BTW my pups were 10days old liao...
Very cute.....!

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post Jan 30 2012, 11:22 AM

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Thanks all !

At first I thought its like pigeon poop...once dry the dust air born.

Maybe because of not enough exercise after I came here...compare to when I was still in home town...

I'll try the mask too next time I clean their cage.
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post Jan 30 2012, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(Ohiki @ Jan 30 2012, 11:22 AM)
Thanks all !

At first I thought its like pigeon poop...once dry the dust air born.

Maybe because of not enough exercise after I came here...compare to when I was still in home town...

I'll try the mask too next time I clean their cage.
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OMG. The pup so damn cute. T_T Remind me of my pups last time. Gosh.
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post Jan 30 2012, 07:00 PM

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The mom to today moved their nest n bring all the pups out to hv a walk..
The pups were biting,making noise n exploring...
So fun to watch them..

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